Nov 19, 2020 Planning and Zoning Commission

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ALL RIGHT, A CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE CITY OF

[1. Call to Order.]

FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS.

[3. Administrative Comments.]

THAT'S WEDNESDAY WOULD BE SIX O'CLOCK HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS SHOULD WE HAVE ANY ITEMS TO BRING FORWARD TO THAT COMMITTEE FOR THAT POTENTIAL MEETING.

HOW MANY DID YOU SAY? WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

OH WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

CURRENTLY SCHEDULED THAT I'M AWARE OF TWO EXCUSE ME, TWO IN THE HOPPER AND POSSIBLY ONE MORE. OK, A LITTLE BIT OF A MEMORY QUIZ FOR YOU.

WHEN'S OUR FIRST MEETING IN 2021? DO YOU KNOW OFF TOP OF YOUR HEAD? JANUARY 7TH? OK. ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS ON THOSE ITEMS? ALL RIGHT, CHAIRMAN COMMENTS IS NEXT.

[4. Chairman Comments.]

I THINK PLAYOFF VOLLEYBALL GAME.

SO GO DRAGONS AND WE'LL WELCOME HIM BACK, I GUESS, IN JANUARY.

GO TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONSIDERATION OF THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM

[5. Consider: Approval of the minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held on November 5, 2020.]

EVERYONE'S BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THOSE.

IF THERE'S NO CHANGES OR COMMENTS, I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THOSE.

MR. ROTHMEIER, DR.

SPRINGER. ANYONE.

ALL RIGHT WITH THAT, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 2020.

ALL RIGHT. A MOTION DO I HAVE A SECOND? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT, THAT ITEM CARRIES FIVE ONE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER SIX ZA20-0052.

[6. Consider: Ordinance No. 480-775, (ZA20-0052), Zoning Change and Concept Plan for 2311 Lonesome Dove Rd.]

THIS IS TO ALLOW THEM TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE UNDER THE SF1A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING CATEGORY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR EXCUSE ME, H EAR FROM THE APPLICANT? I HAVE A QUESTION JUST TO CLARIFY.

IS IT THE SF1A THAT WOULD HAVE THE MAXIMUM COVERAGE OF 10 PERCENT AND THEY WANT 15 PERCENT LOT COVERAGE? NO, THE CURRENT ZONING AGRICULTURAL HAS A 10 PERCENT LOT COVERAGE LIMITATION.

THEY WENT TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND REQUESTED UP TO A 15 PERCENT AND WERE DENIED.

AND THEREFORE, THEY'RE SEEKING A ZONING DISTRICT THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM THE ABILITY TO BUILD THE SIZE HOME THEY'RE WISHING TO PLACE ON THE PROPERTY.

SF1A HAS A MAXIMUM 20 PERCENT LOT COVERAGE.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR DENNIS? ALL RIGHT, IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX? YES, SIR. IF YOU WOULD, COME ON DOWN, PLEASE, REAL QUICK.

DO ME A FAVOR, STAND AT THIS MICROPHONE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION OR WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE STAFF'S PRESENTATION. PATRICK GRAY, 901 [INAUDIBLE] COURT IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATION TO MAKE HERE.

I REPRESENT THE OWNER, JIMMY [INAUDIBLE] AND WE'RE WANTING TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY CUSTOM HOME RESIDENCE ON THIS LOT, SO.

I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS, OK, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE THE OWNER WITH YOU AS WELL. YES. OK.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR.

I GUESS NO QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU'RE FREE TO DO SO. NOW, IF YOU WOULD, SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IF THERE'S NO COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER ROTHMEIER YOU WANT TO CRACK A MOTION FOR US?

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AND SUBJECT TO THE CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED NOVEMBER 12TH, 2020.

ALL RIGHT. IF WE COULD REAL QUICK BEFORE I GET A SECOND ON THAT, I GOT THESE PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS OUT OF ORDER.

I THOUGHT THEY WERE NUMBER SEVEN.

BUT JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR ON THE RECORD, WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MICHELLE [INAUDIBLE], WHO IS OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

AND I BELIEVE THIS CAME IN THROUGH THE WEBSITE.

IS THAT RIGHT, DENNIS? I HAVE NOT SEEN.

OK. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH DIRECTOR BAKER EARLIER.

AND THEN ALSO HAVE A NOTICE OF OPPOSITION FROM SCOTT NOT WISH TO SPEAK. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DIDN'T PASS THOSE BY.

THOSE ARE PART OF THE RECORD AS WELL.

OK, WE'VE HAD A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX ZERO.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ZA-20-0056.

[7. Consider: Ordinance No. 480-776, (ZA20-0056), Zoning Change and Concept Plan for 1507 E. Dove Rd.]

THAT ZONING ORDINANCE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY BE APPROPRIATELY ZONED AND DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SPLIT BLOCK ZONING, MEANING SINGLE PLATTED LOT HAVING TWO ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN IT.

AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN AND ZONING REQUEST.

ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? NO, ALL RIGHT, IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? HOW ARE YOU DOING THIS EVENING, SIR? IF YOU WOULD DO ME A FAVOR, WHEN YOU START TO SPEAK, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. YES, SIR.

JASON KILPATRICK, 550 SOUTH EDMANDS LANE, LEWISVILLE, TEXAS.

DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO ADD TO WHAT DENNIS HAS STATED.

THE INTENTION OF THIS ZONING IS SO THE OWNER CAN PLAT THE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY HE OWNS INTO ONE LOT THERE IS NOT ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OR RECONSTRUCTION THAT IS PLANNED.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT? SO THE REST OF THE PROPERTY WILL REMAIN AS AG, THAT'S THE INTENT? NO, TO PLAT THESE TWO PROPERTIES TOGETHER, THEY HAVE TO BE THE SAME ZONING.

SO IT'S TO TAKE THE AG PROPERTY AND PUT IT AS SF1A SO THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLAY. OK, THANKS.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYTHING IS SF1A.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON THE AGENDA DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING ALL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES COME FORWARD. SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

SEEING NO ONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND BEFORE I FORGET THIS TIME, LET ME MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR WE'VE GOT TWO OR THREE RESPONSES. WE HAVE A RESPONSE FROM BENJAMIN ANDERSON, WHO'S UNDECIDED AND HAS PROVIDED COMMENTS. AND BY THE WAY, IF I READ OUT YOUR NAME AND YOU'RE HERE AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD.

WE HAVE A RESPONSE FROM FRANCIS [INAUDIBLE] IN FAVOR OF.

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WE HAVE A RESPONSE FROM ROBERT [INAUDIBLE], WHO HAS NOT INDICATED WHETHER HE'S IN FAVOR OPPOSITION OR UNDECIDED, BUT HAS PUT SOME CONCERNS DOWN ABOUT FLOODING. AND THEN WE HAVE A RESPONSE FROM DAVID [INAUDIBLE], I GUESS, ON BEHALF OF THE ARIZONA LIVING TRUST IN FAVOR OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

ANYBODY'S NAME I CALLED OUT WHO'S HERE, WHO WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.

I CAN REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN FROM THE COMMISSION? NOTHING WAS PRETTY QUIET NIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, I GUESS, COMMISSIONER ROTHMEIER, YOU WANT TO TAKE A SHOT AT ITEM NO.7 MOTION.

MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CASE NUMBER ZA 20-0056 ZONING CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR 1507 EAST DOVE ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 13, 2020. AND CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED NOVEMBER 12TH, 2020.

YES, SIR. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX ZERO.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

[8. Consider: ZA20-0058, Preliminary Plat for Lots 1-4, Block A, GMI Southlake]

NEXT ITEM ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ZA20-0058, WHICH IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE 50000 FOOT VIEW HERE DENNIS? CERTAINLY.

THIS IS THE PLAT, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT WOULD SET THE PROPOSED BOUNDARIES BASED ON THE ZONING CONCEPT AND SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED FOR A 80000 SQUARE FOOT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CORPORATE OFFICE BUILDING WITH THREE FUTURE PHASED FLEX INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS TOTALING FIFTY NINE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, PROPERTY IS AT AT 240 CROOKED LANE.

AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY.

LAND USE DESIGNATION IS MIXED USE ZONING IS NOW SP2 GENERALIZED SITE PLANNING DISTRICT.

THIS WAS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AND CONCEPT PLAN, THIS BEING PHASE ONE, CORPORATE OFFICE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING AND THE FUTURE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL.

BUILDING FLEX SPACE.

TREE CONSERVATION PLAN AND THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THE BOUNDARIES ARE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WAS REPRESENTED IN THE APPROVED ZONING AND CONCEPT PLAN. ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, DENNIS IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING, SIR? DOING WELL. CLAY CRISTY CLAYMORE ENGINEERING, 1903 CENTRAL DRIVE, BEDFORD, TEXAS.

AS DENNIS PRESENTED UP HERE, WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE WITH THE ZONING.

WE'VE GOT THE REZONING.

NEXT STEP IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

AND WE ACTUALLY JUST FINISHED OUR FINAL CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS THAT WERE GOING TO BE FALLING RIGHT BACK BEHIND AS SOON AS WE OBTAIN IF WE'RE ABLE TO OBTAIN APPROVAL.

AND THIS WILL BE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT FOR THE FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF THE [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT. THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.

I DO. I DO HAVE A QUICK ONE HERE, ONE OF THE FORMS OR RESPONSES THAT WE RECEIVED ADDRESSED DRAINAGE ISSUES ARE WITH YOUR CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, SATISFIED THAT THOSE ARE ALL TAKEN CARE OF.

THEY ARE. JUST AS WE PRESENTED IN THE ZONING CASE, THE INTENTION FOR THE DRAINAGE IS STILL THE SAME. CURRENTLY, THERE'S ABOUT 75 PERCENT OF THE SLOT DRAINS TO CROOKED AND THERE'S NOT MUCH OF A DRAINAGE SYSTEM ON CROOKED LANE.

THERE'S A LITTLE BITTY BAR DITCH THAT'S ABOUT SIX INCHES DEEP THAT JUST SIMPLY DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR EVEN THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU, DENNIS, FOR PULLING THAT TOGETHER.

SO WHAT OUR PLAN IS TO DO BOTH WHAT WE PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY AND WHAT OUR CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ARE GOING TO FOLLOW IS THAT STARTING THE GMI PARCEL IS THE HIGH SIDE AND ALL THE KIND OF TALK THAT REAL QUICK CAN WORK MY WAY DOWN IS THAT THE WATER ON THE GMI TRACT, WHICH IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE RIGHT HERE OF THE SCREEN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, IS GOING TO GET COLLECTED IN A DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND GO DOWN SOUTH.

THERE'S GOING BE A DETENTION POND THAT'S GOING TO BE AT THE VERY END OF THAT THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE DETENTION FOR THE GMI PARCEL AND THEN VIA PIPE.

IT'S GOING TO BE PIPED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION OF NOLEN DRIVE AND CROOKED

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SO WE'LL ACTUALLY COMPLETELY AVOID DISCHARGING DEVELOP RUNOFF TO CROOKED LANE.

THERE WILL JUST BE A SMALL PORTION OF THE AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE SIDE, ALONG CROOKED LANE, WHERE WE'RE PRESERVING TREES THAT NATURALLY DRAINS TO CROOKED LANE.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO DRAIN THERE.

BUT ALL THE DEVELOPED RUNOFF WILL BE CAPTURED AND THEN SENT VIA DRAINAGE STRUCTURES DOWN TO NOLEN AND CROOKED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON THE AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING ALL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO COME FORWARD.

YES, SIR. YOU'RE THE ONE LEFT.

HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? I'M BOBBY [INAUDIBLE] AT 700 WHISPERING WOOD CIRCLE, AND MY COMPLAINT IS THE LACK OF DRAINAGE ON CROOKED LINE ON BOTH SIDES THE ROAD DOWN TO NOLEN. ON THE EAST END WE'RE GOING TO BE DRAINING SOME OF THE BY THE DETENTION POND ON CROOKED LANE. BUT IT'S NOT GOING DOWN TO NOLEN BECAUSE THE DITCH IS STOPPED UP.

THAT'S FULL OF TREES, BIG ONES.

THEY GOT FLAGS ON THEM AND THEY'RE IN THE ROAD DITCH.

AND FURTHER DOWN, THERE'S POWER LINES IN THE ROAD DITCH FROM SOME OF THE GLACIERS DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD WHERE THEY CLOSED THE DITCH AND BUILT A SIDEWALK. SO WE HAVE NO DRAINAGE AND THERE'S TWO RESIDENTIAL HOMES ON THAT PROPERTY THAT FROM WHISPERING WOODS BACK TO NOLEN, THE WATER DRAINS TO NOLEN, BUT FROM CROOKED LANE TO KIMBALL DRAINS OTHER TO KIMBALL.

BUT THE TWO PROPERTIES, THEY CATCH THE WATER BECAUSE IT DOESN'T IT'S NO WAY IT CAN GO DOWN TO NOLEN AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE DETENTION POND IS THEY'RE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO DRAIN IT OUT THERE AND RIGHT NOW, IT'S POOLING UP THERE BY THE FIRE HYDRANT AND THEN WHEN IT CROSSES THE ROAD, IT GOES ACROSS TO THE PROPERTY RESIDENTIAL HOUSE ON 2349.

AND THE POOR GUY, HE JUST BOUGHT THAT TWO MONTHS AGO.

HE KNOWS NOTHING WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO IT'S A BIG PROBLEM FOR US BECAUSE WE ARE THE DRAINAGE, BECAUSE IT GOES ON OUR PROPERTY INSTEAD OF DOWN THE ROAD DITCH.

YES, SIR. STORM DRAINAGE.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE CITY'S GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE ROAD DITCHES.

CAN I KEEP YOU THERE ONE MINUTE WHILE WE HAVE DENNIS PULL UP THE AERIAL MAYBE.

AND HAVE YOU POINT OUT WHERE YOU'RE AT AND KIND OF WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THE THE DRAINAGE THAT YOU JUST SPOKE OF REAL QUICK.

NOW, WHERE IS YOUR PROPERTY LOCATED AND HE CAN USE THE MOUSE AND KIND OF HE'S ON IT RIGHT NOW ON MY PROPERTY AND.

IN FRONT OF THAT ROAD, THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S WHISPERING WOODS.

OK, FROM OUT THERE ON CROOKED LANE, IT ALL DRAINS DOWN TO NOLEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO, BUT IT DOESN'T BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T MAINTAINED THE ROAD DITCHES BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1982 AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE A THING TO IT.

ALL RIGHT. AND YOUR CONCERN ON THE DRAINAGE WAS ON, IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, BOTH SIDES OF CROOKED FROM, I GUESS, THE EDGE OF YOUR PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO NOLEN.

IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S EXTREMELY BAD DOWN, RIGHT IN THAT AREA WHERE MY PROPERTY HITS NOLEN ON THE NORTH SIDE IS WHERE IT POOLS UP ON THAT PROPERTY OVER THERE.

ALL RIGHT, AND. IT'S NO ROAD DITCH [INAUDIBLE] NOW THEY CLOSED IT UP.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY GAVE THAT TO GLACIER OR WHAT DEVELOPMENT OR WHAT HAPPENED THERE BECAUSE THE ROAD DITCH COMPLETELY WENT AWAY AND THEY BUILT A SIDEWALK ON IT.

DENNIS, CAN YOU REMIND ME AND IF WE NEED TO GET THE APPLICANT BACK UP, WE CAN DO THAT, OBVIOUSLY, IN TERMS OF THE DRAINAGE ALONG CROOKED, HOW THE CITY ADDRESSES THAT, WHAT INVOLVEMENT THE CITY ENGINEERS HAVE.

AND THEN ALSO WITH RESPECT TO THE DETENTION POND AND THE OUTFLOW FROM THE PROPERTY BEING DEVELOPED, CAN YOU KIND OF ADDRESS THAT FOR SURE? HOW THEY HAVE DESIGNED THIS, NONE OF NONE OF THE DRAINAGE COMING OFF OF THIS PROPERTY WILL GO BACK AND REACH NO ONE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHAT MAY BE PRESERVED RIGHT IN HERE ALONG

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I THINK WHAT MR. [INAUDIBLE] WAS REFERRING TO IS REALLY PROBABLY THE CONDITION OF THE BAR DITCHES ALONG CROOKED TODAY, WHICH IS WITHIN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT THAT MAY NOT BE CARRYING THE FLOWS THAT THAT THEY THEY SHOULD.

AND SO AT THAT, BUT THAT THAT REALLY WARRANTS ONE OF OUR DRAINAGE INSPECTORS OR ENGINEERS TO GO OUT AND REVIEW THAT.

AND MAYBE IF MR. [INAUDIBLE] AVAILABLE TO POINT OUT THE AREAS THAT HE IS AWARE OF PROBLEMS BEING IN, THEY COULD ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THAT FROM A CITY STANDPOINT.

BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING HIM DISCUSS REALLY\ DOES NOT NECESSARILY PERTAIN TO WHAT IS BEING DESIGNED FOR HERE ON THIS PROJECT, ALL OF THEIR DRAINAGE IS COMING IN TO THE DETENTION AREAS AND THEN INTO AN UNDERGROUND STORM, AND THAT WOULD TAKE IT OUT TO ANOTHER STORM AND THAT'S RUNNING EVERYTHING BACK UP THROUGH THIS AREA. RIGHT.

MR. [INAUDIBLE], IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN MEETING WITH CITY STAFF? AND I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT AS WELL TO COME OUT AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH THOSE ISSUES, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, ON A PRELIMINARY PLAT, IT'S KIND OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION ON OUR PART.

SO AS LONG AS IT COMPLIES WITH THE ORDINANCES AND DENNIS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AS LONG AS IT COMPLIES WITH THE ORDINANCES, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY.

BUT WE CAN ASK THAT THE CITY MEET WITH YOU AND THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A CONCERN AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ADDRESSED.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D BE WILLING TO DO? YES, I WOULD. OK, DID DENNIS ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ADEQUATELY? BUT DOWN THERE ON THAT FAR CORNER, THEY'RE GOING TO DRAIN IT YOU DOWN YOU SPEAKING? WHICH FAR CORNER.

RIGHT ALONG IN THERE.

THIS CORNER HERE? YES. AND ABOUT HALFWAY UP THAT PROPERTY.

WELL, UP A LITTLE BIT RIGHT ALONG.

BACK DOWN. OR WHAT? AND YOU SEE THE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT THERE FROM THERE.

YES, SIR. RIGHT THERE.

ABOUT THE MIDDLE WAYS FROM THERE BACK TO ME IS IT POOLS UP AND RUNNING OVER THE ROAD AND GOING INTO THAT PROPERTY THAT THIS FELLA JUST BOUGHT TWO MONTHS AGO AND RUNNING RIGHT DOWN HIS DRIVEWAY FROM BOTH SIDES ROAD.

AND THEY'RE LEAVING THE TREES.

THEY CAN'T RAISE THE ELEVATION THEY'RE GOING TO DRAIN.

LET IT CONTINUE TO DRAIN SOME WATER IN THAT ROAD DITCH.

AND IT IT'S NOT GOING THERE.

IT'S GOING ACROSS THE ROAD ON THIS OTHER PERSON.

AND IT COMES ON ME TOO.

BUT THE OBLIGATION OF A DEVELOPMENT IS TO NOT INCREASE THE FLOW OR CHANGE THE FLOW FROM WHAT IT IS IN AN UNDEVELOPED CONDITION.

AND SO THEY'RE DESIGNED HAS ADDRESS THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY ARE PUTTING IN TERMS OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IS BEING CONTAINED AND DELAYED AND THEN RELEASED INTO A STORM SYSTEM THAT WOULD NEVER REACH CROOKED LANE.

WHAT MAY CONTINUE TO DRAIN ON CROOKED LANE IS JUST WHAT'S IN THESE PRESERVED AND BUFFER YARDS, WHICH WOULD MOST LIKELY BE LESS THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY BECAUSE OF HOW THEY HAVE DESIGNED TO CATCH WHAT'S COMING OFF THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE AND PIPING THAT INTO A CONTROLLED SYSTEM, INTO A DESIGN DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

MR. [INAUDIBLE], MR. [INAUDIBLE] .

CERTAINLY. LET'S DO THIS IF WE COULD.

AND BEFORE I FORGET, YOU FILLED OUT A RESPONSE.

THAT'S THE ONE WE HAVE HERE, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. OK, LET'S DO THIS IF WE COULD.

YOU SAID YOU'D BE AGREEABLE TO MEET WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE APPLICANT OUT THERE.

YES. AND MAYBE WHAT WE'LL DO HERE WHEN WHEN WE GET DONE IS I'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME BACK UP AND CONFIRM HE'S WILLING TO MEET WITH YOU AND THE CITY OUT THERE AS WELL.

AND DENNIS, TELL ME IF IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN REQUEST THAT THAT MEETING OCCUR PRIOR TO THE APPLICANT GOING TO COUNCIL SO THAT MR. [INAUDIBLE] AND THE APPLICANT CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY WILL KNOW WHAT THE RESULT OF THAT CONVERSATION? OR IS THAT FAIR? THAT'S FAIR. MR. [INAUDIBLE] IS THAT GOOD? THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. IF WE COULD GET THE APPLICANT BACK UP HERE AND LET'S.

ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? WE'VE MET WITH MR. [INAUDIBLE] ALREADY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES AT EVERY PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY

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HAPPY TO DO IT AGAIN.

IT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.

WE AREN'T DRAINING OUR DEVELOP FLOWS TO THAT.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I REALIZE WHAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN THE PROCESS.

BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO GO OUT THERE AND MEET WITH THE CITY AND MR. [INAUDIBLE] AGAIN, HE'S A LONG TIME RESIDENT AND I THINK IT WARRANTS ONE MORE MEETING.

SO IF YOU'LL DO THAT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THEN THAT'D BE GREAT.

IS THAT AGREEABLE.

STAFF CAN GET A HOLD OF ME.

THEY'VE GOT ALL MY CONTACT INFORMATION.

I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I'M ASKING YOU IF THAT'S AGREEABLE.

YEAH, OK, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THERE IS NO ONE ELSE SEEING NO ONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

DR. SPRINGER, YOU GOT NOTHING.

I THINK WE WENT THROUGH IT BEFORE ON THE YOU KNOW, WHEN IT CAME UP THE FIRST TIME AND I BELIEVE WE WORKED OUT MOST OF THE ISSUES WITH THE DRAINAGE.

THERE WERE SOME STUFF DOWN ON NOLEN THAT GOT TAKEN CARE OF.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION.

AND SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION COMMISSIONER ROTHMEIER. INDEED, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

ITEM 8 CASE NUMBER ZA20-0058.

PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR LOTS ONE THROUGH FOUR BLOCK A FOR GMI SOUTHLAKE SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 13TH, 2020.

AND THE PLAT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED NOVEMBER 13TH 2020 AND ENCOURAGING FURTHER DISCUSSION BETWEEN MR. [INAUDIBLE], THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY WITH FURTHER ENCOURAGEMENT THAT THAT DISCUSSION REGARDING THE DRAINAGE PLANS PRESENTED THIS EVENING BY THE APPLICANT BE HELD PRIOR TO THE TIME THAT THIS ITEM IS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION DO I HAVE A SECOND? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX ZERO, THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT, THANK YOU, MR. [INAUDIBLE] FOR BEING HERE.

AND THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

I'LL ADJOURN THE P&Z MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.