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[1. Call to Order]

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BE INFORMED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY.

MOST OF THE ITEMS TONIGHT ARE ALL RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF OUR COMMITTEE, IS TO GAIN FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON.

NO VOTES WILL BE TAKEN TONIGHT.

SO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATION PROCESS ONLY.

AND WE WANT YOU TO BE INFORMED.

THE CITY WANTS YOU TO BE INFORMED.

AND WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.

THE MEETING IS GOING TO BE STREAMED.

THERE'S CAMERAS OVER THERE AND OVER HERE.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AFTER THE DEVELOPER COMES UP, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE MICROPHONE AND WE'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND THEN YOU CAN JUST GET UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ON FILE.

AND THEN WE ALSO ARE HAVING SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE SENT IN THAT PEOPLE COULD NOT COME INTO THE MEETING TONIGHT.

SO THEY SENT SOME QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS.

SO IN BETWEEN ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT OR COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE, THEN I'LL BE READING THE COMMENTS FROM THERE.

NOW WE HAVE A BRIEF VIDEO FROM THE MAYOR DESCRIBING WHAT WE DO AND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

[VIDEO] HELLO, I'M SOUTHLAKE MAYOR, LAURA HILL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT'S SPIN TOWN HALL FORUM.

THE ITEMS PRESENTED THIS EVENING REPRESENT IDEAS WHICH ARE IN THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES OF POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE CONVERSATION STARTS HERE FIRST WITH A PRESENTATION AND THEN YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

THERE ARE NO VOTES TAKEN.

THERE ARE NO DECISIONS MADE.

IT IS SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE.

THE CITY COUNCIL PLACES A VERY HIGH VALUE ON SPIN MEETINGS.

WE HAVE ALSO DEDICATED RESOURCES TO ADVERTISING THEM SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY.

ONCE THE MEETING IS OVER, BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ARE PROVIDED WITH THE SPIN REPORT FROM TONIGHT.

THESE REPORTS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY CAPTURE YOUR FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF ANY POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD BE MOVING FORWARD IN THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE TAKE YOUR IMPRESSIONS AND QUESTIONS INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE CONSIDER ANY ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE US FURTHER ALONG IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND DEDICATION TO HELPING MAKE SOUTHLAKE A BETTER PLACE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT TONIGHT'S PRESENTATIONS OR THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, PLEASE CONTACT ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT VOLUNTEERS OR THE CITY STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.

HAVE A GREAT NIGHT AGAIN.

THANKS FOR BEING PART OF THE PROCESS.

OK. LET'S GET STARTED, OUR FIRST PRESENTATION IS WITH JAY [INAUDIBLE], AND HE'S HERE TO

[2. SPIN2021-06 - An applicant is proposing a zoning change to allow for the retail sale of musical instruments for Tone Shop Guitars at 3220 W. Southlake Blvd. within SPIN Neighborhood #11.]

PRESENT THE SPIN 2021 ZERO SIX.

THIS APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A ZONING CHANGE TO ALLOW FOR THE RETAIL SALE OF MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS FOR TONE SHOR GUITARS AT 3220 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH OF CHESAPEAKE PARK. JAY.

YOU CAN JUST COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AT THE PODIUM.

HI, GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD REQUEST IN 2010, WHEN SCHOOL OF ROCK LEASED THE BUILDING, THEY TOOK THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

RECENTLY THEY HAD REMODELED AFTER THEY HAD SOME DAMAGE CAUSED BY A STORM.

SO, YOU KNOW, OUR INTENT IS TO LEASE THE OTHER HALF OF THE BUILDING, TIE IN TO WHAT THEY DO. THEY TEACH, YOU KNOW, MUSIC LESSONS.

SO IT'S REALLY AN ADDENDUM TO THE REQUEST THAT THEY HAD.

THEY HAD A SPECIAL ZONING PERMIT FOR THE WHOLE BUILDING THAT LIMITED TO JUST SCHOOL USES.

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WE WANTED TO ADD ON THE ADDITION OF SELLING RETAIL MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY GUITARS AND AMPLIFIERS.

SO REALLY, I MEAN, THAT'S THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT, THE NEXT SLIDE.

CAN I CLICK IT HERE OR.

JASON, CAN YOU, THERE IT IS.

THIS IS JUST A BACKGROUND OF WHAT WE DO AND WHAT OUR PROPOSED USES ARE FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF. THERE'S THIRTY FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY ONE SQUARE FEET.

FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX OF THAT WILL BE STORAGE.

ONE FIFTY SIX IS DEDICATED TO THE RESTROOMS, AN ACOUSTIC GUITAR ROOM OF APPROXIMATELY 800 SQUARE FEET AND THEN A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FOR ELECTRIC GUITARS.

THE REMAINING SQUARE FOOTAGE IS COMMON AREAS AND ACCESSORY FOR GUITAR ACCESSORIES, SELLING ACCESSORIES, POINT OF SALE, THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND REALLY, WHAT I WELCOME YOU TO DO IS IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUSINESS, JUST VISIT OUR WEBSITE.

WE HAVE AN EXISTING STORE IN ADDISON, TEXAS, AND THIS IS OUR FIRST EXPANSION AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

WE WANT TO GET OPEN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

OK, GREAT.

SO ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? OK, YOU'RE FREE TO GO.

THERE'S ONE OTHER SLIDE THAT JUST SHOWS A BASIC LAYOUT OF THE STORE.

IT'S VERY, VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, VERY SIMPLE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OK, OK.

[3. SPIN2021-07 - An applicant is proposing a site plan to develop up to 58 Garden District Residences in two (2) buildings on approximately 2.2 acres on the east side of Central Ave. and north of Meeting St. (addressed as 351 Central Ave.) in Southlake Town Square within SPIN Neighborhood #8.]

MR. BLISS IS UP NEXT FOR SPIN 2021 07.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SITE PLAN TO DEVELOP UP TO FIFTY EIGHT GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTS IN TWO BUILDINGS ON APPROXIMATELY TWO POINT TWO ACRES ON THE EAST SIDE OF CENTRAL AVENUE AND NORTH OF MEETING STREET ADDRESSED AS 351 CENTRAL AVENUE IN SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE. MR. BLISS. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A SITE PLAN APPLICATION.

THE JOURNEY ON THIS APPLICATION STARTED ABOUT 11 YEARS AGO.

THE FIRST CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE GARDEN DISTRICT WAS APPROVED IN MAY OF 2011.

THE CONCEPT PLAN YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN HERE WAS 2013.

SO THE EVOLUTION FROM 2011 TO 2013 WAS FROM 10 BUILDINGS WITH 130 CONDOMINIUM UNITS TO THE THREE BUILDINGS YOU SEE HERE WITH 60 UNITS.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'VE FILED NOW WITH THE CITY IS TWO BUILDINGS WITH NOT TO EXCEED 58 UNITS.

THIS REALLY REFLECTS WHAT WE'VE BEEN LEARNING AS WE'VE BEEN BUILDING OUT THE BROWNSTONES, AS WE MOST RECENTLY BUILT AND COMPLETED THE PARK VIEW RESIDENCES, MINIMUM SIZE AS IT'S BEEN THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, IS FIFTEEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.

THE AVERAGE ESTIMATED SIZE CURRENTLY IS AROUND 2000 SQUARE FEET, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN THAT BY THE TIME THE BUILDINGS DONE.

THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT TO PARK VIEW BECAUSE WE HAVE DIRECT ACCESS ELEVATORS THAT WILL GO UP TO SEMIPRIVATE LOBBIES AND I'LL HAVE A SLIDE THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE LATER. QUALITY OF DESIGN.

THESE ARE CLASS A BUILDINGS.

PARK VIEW IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THE QUALITY THAT WE INTEND TO DELIVER RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. DAVID SCHWARTZ IS THE ARCHITECT.

DAVID SCHWARTZ HAS BEEN THE ARCHITECT ON THE BROWNSTONES ON MAIN STREET, THE BROWNSTONES ON MEETING STREET AND ON PARK VIEW.

HE IS ONE OF THE MOST DECORATED ARCHITECTS IN THE WORLD FOR CREATING GREAT PLACES FOR PEOPLE. THESE ARE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS.

THE FOURTH FLOOR IS SET BACK.

WE STEP THE EAST BUILDING, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN HERE, DOWN TO THREE STORIES SO THAT IT WAS MORE IN SCALE TO THE HOMES ACROSS THE STREET.

THE BUILDINGS ARE ALL FOUR SIDED, BRICK WITH CAST STONE AND MASONRY ACCENTS, AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR TO PARKVIEW, WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO WITH THE TWO BUILDING LAYOUT IS ELIMINATE THE THIRD BUILDING THAT WE'RE ENTITLED TO BUILD.

SO I'LL SKIP BACK HERE REAL QUICK.

BOTTOM RIGHT HAND. YOU'LL SEE WHAT'S CALLED RESIDENTIAL BUILDING C, WHICH IS AT THE CORNER OF MEETING STREET AND PARK RIDGE.

IN THE TWO BUILDINGS SCHEME, WE'RE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THAT THIRD BUILDING.

SO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THIS PICTURE, YOU SEE WHAT IS NOW PROPOSED AS A PARK.

WE'RE CALLING IT THE GROVE, WHICH IS A TESTAMENT TO THE OAK TREES THAT USED TO STAND ON THIS SITE. AND THAT WOULD BE THE PREDOMINANT SPECIES THAT WE WOULD PLANT HERE.

HERE'S A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT GIVES YOU THE SCENE FOR WHERE THE GROVE WOULD GO ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THAT REPLACES WHAT WAS FORMERLY A THIRD BUILDING, THE TERRACE PARALLEL

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STEBBINS PARK. THIS IS A PRIVATE AMENITY DECK WITH A SERIES OF OUTDOOR LIVING AREAS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF BOTH OF THESE TWO BUILDINGS.

AND WE'RE ADDING A NEW WALKWAYS AND CONNECTIONS WHICH WILL IMPROVE WALKABILITY AROUND THE GARDEN DISTRICT AND JUST ADD SOME GENERAL INTEREST FOR PEOPLE, WHETHER YOU'RE WALKING ALONE WITH FRIENDS OR WITH YOUR DOG, AS I KNOW MANY PEOPLE DO THESE GIVE YOU SOME INSPIRATIONAL IMAGES FOR THE TYPES OF HARDSCAPE AND SOFT SCAPE IN THESE OUTDOOR LIVING ROOMS. AND AGAIN, THERE'S A MIX OF PRIVATE SPACE FOR THE TWO BUILDINGS, BUT ALSO QUITE A BIT OF PUBLIC SPACE THAT CAN BE ENJOYED BY ANYBODY WHO IS EITHER LIVING OR VISITING TOWN SQUARE. THIS PICTURE GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SEMIPRIVATE ELEVATORS LOOK LIKE, SO THE ELEVATOR THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THIS PICTURE, ELEVATOR TWO, HAS DOORS THAT OPEN UP BOTH TO THE TOP AND TO THE BOTTOM.

AND DEPENDING ON YOUR KEY ACCESS, IF YOU LIVE IN UNITS 2C OR 2D, YOU'LL EXIT TO THE TOP OF THIS PICTURE. AND JUST THOSE TWO UNITS WILL SHARE THAT DOOR FROM THAT ELEVATOR AND UNITS 2F AND 2E THEIR DOOR WILL OPEN UP TO THE BOTTOM AND THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THESE SEMIPRIVATE LOBBIES REALLY CREATE A STRONG SENSE OF ARRIVAL, WHICH IS AN AMENITY THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWNSIZING FROM LARGE HOMES HAVE BEEN TELLING US THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THESE BUILDINGS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT TO PARK VIEW, WHICH IS ORIENTED WITH THE SHORT SIDE TO THE THE WINDOWED SIDE AND THE LONG SIDE IS INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING. JUST THE DESIGN OF THESE BUILDINGS FLIPS THAT.

AND NOW THE LONG SIDE IS TO THE THE WINDOWED SIDE AND THE SHORT SIDE IS INTERIOR.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO GET MORE WINDOWS, MORE LIGHT AND AIR INTO THESE UNITS.

IT'S ALSO GOOD FROM A FIRE SERVICE CORRIDOR ACCESS STANDPOINT BECAUSE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ABLE TO SERVICE THESE BUILDINGS WITH TWO PEOPLE IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCY.

SO WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE SORTS OF DETAILS AS WELL.

HERE'S ANOTHER DIFFERENT TAKE AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THE ENTRY COURT, WHICH IS COMING OFF MEETING STREET, IS WHERE YOUR UBER DROP OFF WOULD BE.

ITS WHERE YOU WOULD MEET FRIENDS TO PICK THEM UP FOR THE BUILDING.

BUT THE GARAGE FOR THIS BUILDING IN TERMS OF WHERE PEOPLE PARK ACTUALLY COMES IN OFF PARK RIDGE RIGHT HERE.

AND THAT'S A PRIVATE GARAGE, TWO SPACES FOR RESIDENTS, SO ON 58 UNITS, THAT'S A HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN SPACES IN THE PRIVATE GARAGE.

AND THEN EACH RESIDENCE IN THIS BUILDING WILL HAVE CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE ON ITS OWN FLOOR. PART OF THE REQUEST WE'VE MADE TO THE CITY AND TO THE PARKS BOARD IS TO HAVE BOTH STEBBINS PARK AND THE GROVE IF IT IS APPROVED, DEDICATED PUBLIC PARKS, STEBBINS PARK.

AND I'M NOW LIVING IN PARK VIEW AND I'VE SEEN HOW MUCH THE PUBLIC USES THIS PARK, WHICH WE THINK IS GREAT. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE DESIGN INTENT WAS, WAS FOR THIS TO BE LIKE THE OTHER PARKS IN TOWN SQUARE THAT ARE PUBLIC PARKS.

THIS IS THE ONLY PUBLIC PARK THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED TO DATE THAT IS NOT A CITY PARK.

SO WE'VE MADE THAT REQUEST AND IT'S BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BY THE CITY.

WE'VE ALSO REQUESTED THAT THE CITY CONSIDER SOME CHANGES AT THE INTERSECTION OF FEDERAL WAY AND CENTRAL AVENUE.

CENTRAL AVENUE CARRIES A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF YOU.

THAT MAY HAVE ESPECIALLY AT LIKE 7:00 A.M.

IN THE MORNING WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN A HURRY TO GET SOMEWHERE AND THERE'S SEEMINGLY NOBODY AROUND. YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET PEOPLE TRAVELING 40 PLUS MILES AN HOUR DOWN CENTRAL AVENUE.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS CROSSWALKS TO IMPROVE WALKABILITY IN THE AREAS NUMBERED ONE AND TWO. AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING STOP SIGNS, WHICH ARE THE TWOS IN THIS PICTURE.

WE'VE ALSO PROPOSED THAT THE SIDEWALK MEANDER AWAY FROM THE BUILDING HERE TO CREATE A LANDSCAPE AND AN ART OPPORTUNITY.

AND THE ART WE HAVE IN MIND IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

LYMAN WHITTAKER IS A SCULPTOR OUT OF SANTA FE, NEW MEXICO.

THESE WIND SCULPTURES, IF YOU'VE SEEN THEM, ARE ACTUALLY A LOT OF FUN.

THEY'RE FUN FOR KIDS. THEY'RE FUN FOR ADULTS.

YOU CAN JUST WATCH THEM SPIN ALL DAY LONG.

AND WITH THE WIND THAT WE GET DOWN THIS WAY DOWN THESE CORRIDORS IN TOWNS SQUARE, WE THINK THE SORT OF SCULPTURAL INTEREST WHICH FITS IN REALLY WELL WITH A WHOLE VARIETY OF LANDSCAPE STYLES WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION IN A COUPLE OF SPOTS HERE IN THIS NEW DISTRICT.

I WON'T BORE YOU WITH EVERYTHING HERE.

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THIS IS OUR CONSISTENT THEME.

WE ALWAYS WITH EVERYTHING WE DO, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A STRONGER COMMUNITY, A STRONGER DOWNTOWN AND ALSO DO WHAT WE CAN HERE TO HELP THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN THE BROWNSTONES ON MAIN STREET, IN THE GARDEN DISTRICT, BROWNSTONES AND IN PARK VIEW SHOW HOW WE ARE IN FACT SERVING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE DEMOGRAPHIC OF WHO'S HERE, ITS S OUTHLAKE RESIDENTS WHO DOWNSIZED TO LIVE HERE.

WE ARE CLEARLY FITTING THE NEEDS OF THE SOUTHLAKE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE ALSO FITTING THE NEEDS OF SOME OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, OLDER FAMILY MEMBERS, WHO THEY WANT TO KEEP CLOSE TO THEM AND WHO ARE LIVING IN SOME OF THESE HOMES.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL EXTENSIVELY, THE BROWNSTONES, THE GARDEN DISTRICT FIT THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE A FEW OF THE SINKS SINGLE INCOME NO KIDS AND THE DINKS DOUBLE INCOME, NO KIDS. SO THE HOUSING LIFESTYLE THAT WE'RE OFFERING HERE IN SOUTH LAKE IS ATTRACTING EXACTLY THE KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE DESIGNED THIS HOUSING FOR.

BRIAN STEBBINS, WHO LEFT US ALL TOO EARLY, SAID IN ONE OF THE VERY FIRST MEETINGS AT JOHNSON ELEMENTARY IN 1996 THAT THE BEST DOWNTOWNS IN THE WORLD HAVE PEOPLE LIVING IN THEM. WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR RETAILERS.

WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR RESTAURANTS.

WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR OFFICE TENANTS HOW MUCH THEY ENJOY AND VALUE THE INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL LIVING IN TOWN SQUARE.

IT HELPS THEM.

JUST THE LAST TWO DAYS I'VE WALKED WITH FRIENDS AND PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN TO RESTAURANTS IN TOWN SQUARE. WE DIDN'T DRIVE THERE.

WE DIDN'T PUT ANY IMPACT ON THE ROAD NETWORK.

WE HAD A MINIMUM OF FOUR PEOPLE AT EVERY TABLE.

AND YOU DO ENOUGH OF THAT AND YOU GET TO KNOW THE MANAGERS.

AND YOU KNOW, JOHN [INAUDIBLE] YOU AND LAUREN KNOW EVERYBODY IN TOWN SQUARE.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM HERE DOES IN TOWN SQUARE.

IT'S ALSO INCREDIBLY GOOD FROM A TAX BASE STANDPOINT.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY HAVE STUDIED THE RESEARCH AROUND LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES SOUTH LAKE SPECIAL IS OUR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

BUT WHAT WE ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COSTS MORE BECAUSE IT COST MORE TO BRING ROADS, SEWER AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TAXES THAT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL GENERATES, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE METRICS THAT PEOPLE WILL USE IS THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR OF TAX THAT THE CITY WILL GET FROM A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL HOMES, IT COST THEM ABOUT A DOLLAR FIFTY TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE THAT UP SOMEWHERE.

AND THE BEST PLACE TO MAKE IT UP IS IN A PLACE LIKE SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE, WHICH IS ALL ABOUT DENSITY BY DESIGN.

AND THIS NEXT SLIDE WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THIS IMPACTS BOTH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY AT LARGE. SO THIS THESE TWO BUILDINGS, SIXTY MILLION PLUS IN ESTIMATED VALUE ON COMPLETION ARE ESTIMATED.

TO GENERATE OVER SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO THE CARROLL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND THOSE REVENUES ARE SHIELDED FROM ROBIN HOOD ONCE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ON THE GROUND. IF WE LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE BUILT TODAY BETWEEN THE BROWNSTONES ON MAIN STREET, THE GARDEN DISTRICT, BROWNSTONES, PARK VIEW AND THIS PROJECT TONIGHT, TOTAL RESIDENTIAL VALUES ARE ESTIMATED TO EXCEED 200 MILLION ON LESS THAN 15 ACRES.

THAT'S OVER 13 MILLION AN ACRE.

AND THAT'S WITH A VARIETY OF PRODUCTS THAT RANGE IN DENSITY.

THE BROWNSTONES ARE ABOUT NINE UNITS TO THE ACRE.

IF YOU LOOK AT PARK VIEW, PARK VIEW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A STRICT DENSITY CALCULATION, 36 UNITS ON HALF AN ACRE, THAT'S SEVENTY TWO UNITS TO THE ACRE.

THE AVERAGE VALUE OF A HOME IN PARK VIEW IS OVER ONE POINT FOUR MILLION, QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE HOME OF A HOUSE IN SOUTH LAKE.

SO PARKVIEW ON COMPLETION IS GOING TO HAVE AN ESTIMATED VALUE OF ABOUT 50 MILLION ON HALF AN ACRE. I HAVE LOOKED I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING IN SOUTH LAKE THAT COMES REMOTELY CLOSE TO A VALUE OF ONE HUNDRED MILLION ON AN ACRE.

NOT A RETAIL SHOP, NOT A RESTAURANT, NOT AN OFFICE INDUSTRIAL, NONE OF IT.

WE ARE GENERATING INCREDIBLE VALUES HERE WHICH ARE HELPING OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND WE'RE DOING IT ON VERY LITTLE LAND AND WE'RE PUTTING IT IN A PLACE WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY IN.

THE ROADS ALREADY EXIST.

THIS IS REALLY SMART LEVERAGE.

AND THE PRIMARY RESIDENT THAT WE ARE ATTRACTING ARE PEOPLE FROM SOUTH LAKE THAT LIVE HERE. WE KNOW THEM. I SEE A COUPLE RIGHT THERE AND THEY WANT TO STAY IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND WE'RE PROVIDING THEM A PLACE TO LIVE.

THEY ALSO, BY THE WAY, IN A HUNDRED AND TEN, ACTUALLY, IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY WHAT'S ON THE GROUND NOW, CALL IT CLOSER TO ONE HUNDRED UNITS OF HOUSING.

THE MOST KIDS WE'VE EVER HAD IS 17 AND THE FEWEST WE'VE HAD IS TWO OUT OF A HUNDRED HOMES. HARD TO FIND A NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH LAKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT FEW KIDS LIVING IN THAT MANY HOMES.

BUT IT'S THE PRODUCT AND WHO IT'S ATTRACTING IT'S ATTRACTING AN OLDER DEMOGRAPHIC.

PEOPLE WHO ARE READY TO DOWNSIZE.

KIDS ARE GROWN. THEY'RE GONE, BUT THEY WANT TO LIVE IN SOMETHING NICE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENCE'S IN SOUTH LAKE ARE DOING.

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IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY AT LARGE AND YOU ADD ALL OF THIS TOGETHER, THAT TWO HUNDRED MILLION OF COMPLETED VALUE WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE CURRENT PROGRAM AND 13 MILLION PER ACRE, THAT IS ADDING VALUE TO THE CITY.

IT'S GENERATING PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE CITY.

BUT THE COLLATERAL BENEFIT IN TERMS OF WHAT THOSE RESIDENTS MEAN TO BUSINESSES IN SOUTH LAKE AND NOT JUST THE RETAILER, BUT SERVICE PROVIDERS, WE HAVE A BROAD VARIETY OF SERVICE PROVIDERS. THERE IS A VALUE LEFT HERE THAT SUPPORTS CONTINUING THIS PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S THE THE QUICK SLIDE PRESENTATION.

I'LL BACK THIS UP TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS 2013 AND 2021 AND HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

OK, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME UP TO THE MIC AND SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

HI, MY NAME IS DIANNE DORMAN, 100 ASCOT DRIVE.

MY CONCERNS ARE STILL THE SAME FROM LAST TIME THAT YOU DID A PRESENTATION WAS THE AS YOU'RE AWARE, CISD HAS THE GRANDPARENT CLAUSE, WHILE IT COULD BE EMPTY NESTERS AND YOU PUT FIFTY EIGHT RESIDENTIAL SPACES IN THERE WITH GRANDKIDS, EACH FAMILY IN SOUTH LAKE TYPICALLY HAS TWO TO THREE KIDS AND THEN THOSE KIDS GROW UP AND HAVE KIDS OF THEIR OWN AND THERE COULD BE POTENTIALLY A LARGE NUMBER OF CHILDREN COMING INTO CISD THROUGH THE GRANDPARENT CLAUSE.

SO AS I ASKED LAST TIME, ARE YOU WILLING TO FOREGO THAT TO YOUR RESIDENCE SHOULD THIS GET APPROVED? AND THEN ALSO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ROADS AND SO FORTH.

OUR TRAFFIC HAS NOT CHANGED.

IT HAS GOTTEN WORSE SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU WERE IN.

AND THE ONE THING THAT WE ALL RECENTLY EXPERIENCED WITH US, SNOWMAGEDDON, ICEMAGEDDON, AGAIN, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO COIN THE PHRASE WAS SUCH A STRESS ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT BE OUR WATER, OUR GAS, OUR ELECTRICITY, AND UNTIL I THINK WE CAN AS A CITY UPDATE THE LINES, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE CONSIDERABLY OLDER IN THE GROUNDS AND THE LINES, WHATEVER IS BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION.

SO I'LL JUST SAY IT OUT LOUD.

BUT JUST TO ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND YOU YOURSELF HAD ALSO MENTIONED THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALLED IT, YOU CALLED IT ALMOST LIKE A DROP OFF AREA FOR LIKE THE UBERS AND THE UBER EATS AND YADA, YADA.

IS THAT GOING TO BE THE SAME FOR FEDEX, UPS, AMAZON AND THE CONTINUAL DELIVERIES COMING IN THERE, WHICH IS DEFINITELY GOING TO CREATE A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC, SO TO SPEAK? SO I'LL TRY TO REMEMBER THERE WERE BASICALLY THREE THEMES THERE, STARTING WITH THE GRANDPARENT CLAUSE. I'M NOT AWARE LEGALLY THAT WE CAN RESTRICT RESIDENTS ABILITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.

BUT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM.

NOW, PUTTING 100 UNITS OF HOUSING ON THE GROUND, WHEN YOU GET HOUSING, THAT HAS IT'S VERY QUICKLY BECOMING A MINIMUM OF A MILLION DOLLARS PER HOME AS OPPOSED TO AN AVERAGE OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS PER HOME.

THE RESIDENT YOU'RE ATTRACTING.

YES, THEY COULD AVAIL THEMSELVES TO THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE, BUT THE PRICE OF THE RESIDENCES THAT WE ARE BUILDING HERE ARE SO HIGH.

IF REALLY ALL YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS SHOVE YOUR KIDS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY PAYING THAT COST BECAUSE YOU CAN BUY LESS EXPENSIVE THINGS IN SOUTH LAKE AND PUT YOUR KIDS IN THE SCHOOL AND AVAIL YOURSELF OF THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.

TO DATE WE HAVE ONE RESIDENT.

THIS IS OVER NOW 15 YEARS.

WE HAVE ONE RESIDENT IN OUR DOWNTOWN HOUSING THAT IS AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE. THAT'S IT. SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM.

TRAFFIC AND SNOWMAGEDDON GREAT.

ACTUALLY, A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHY WE SHOULD BUILD MORE HOUSING LIKE WE'VE BUILT IN TOWN SQUARE. WHEN THINGS SHUT DOWN, OUR RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO WALK WHEREVER THEY NEEDED TO GO. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET IN THE CAR.

SO WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE WAS TRAPPED IN A SUBDIVISION THAT HAD TO GET OUT TO GET TO A GROCERY STORE OR A GAS STATION OR WHEREVER THEY NEEDED TO GET SERVED, THEY HAD TO DRIVE.

IT WAS TOO FAR TO WALK.

OUR RESIDENTS HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED RIGHT HERE THREE GROCERY STORES, FIFTY RESTAURANTS, FOOD AND BEVERAGE PLACES WHERE THEY CAN GO GET WHAT THEY NEED.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE.

SO FOR SNOWMAGEDDON, YOU SHOULD WANT MORE HOUSING LIKE THIS.

AND AS FAR AS TRAFFIC, UPS AND FEDEX AND ALL THE REST WELL PARK VIEW IS NOW OPEN THE TRAFFIC FROM MOXIE'S THE TRAFFIC.

AND I LOVE MOXIE'S, THOUGH THIS IS NOT A SLAM ON MOXIE'S.

THE TRAFFIC FROM MOXIE'S IS A MULTIPLE OF THE TRAFFIC OF EVERY USE COMING IN AND OUT OF PARK VIEW. SO THIS KIND OF TRAFFIC JUST DOES NOT COMPARE TO COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC.

BUT I'LL GO BACK TO MY ZONING.

MY ZONING IS THE PLAN ON THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS SIXTY UNITS AND THREE BUILDINGS.

WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY APPROVE LOWER DENSITY, FEWER BUILDINGS AND FEWER UNITS. IF THE CITY [INAUDIBLE] TELLING US THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE MORE BUILDINGS AND MORE

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UNITS, I'M OFFERING SOMETHING BETTER.

AND SORRY.

AND TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, AS YOU'RE AWARE, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE KIND OF IN A HOUSING CRUNCH RIGHT NOW AND PEOPLE ARE FLOCKING HERE.

THEY DON'T HONESTLY THE PRICING IS OFF THE HOOK.

PEOPLE ARE COMING IN FROM MORE AFFLUENT AREAS OR HIGHER COST HOMES LIKE ON THE EAST AND WEST COASTS AND PAYING A MILLION DOLLARS.

SO WHEN I DIDN'T RECALL HERE, HEARING YOU SAY, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THESE UNITS, ARE THERE CERTAIN NUMBER OF BEDROOMS? TWO TO THREE BEDROOMS? TWO TO THREE. YEAH, BUT YOU'RE NOT LIMITING PER SAY THAT.

YOU'RE JUST SAYING IF THEY BUY IT, THEY CAN.

SO REALISTICALLY, FAMILIES COULD MOVE IN THERE FROM THE AREAS BECAUSE AS YOU'RE AWARE, BEING A RESIDENT HERE AT SOUTHLAKE THAT, WE ARE HAVING IT'S LIKE A BIDDING WAR ON PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY'S HOUSE THAT'S BEING PUT.

AND TO TOUCH BASE ON YOUR COMMENT ABOUT WALKABILITY.

SOUTHLAKE WASN'T EVEN WALKABLE DURING THE SNOW ICEMAGEDDON, BECAUSE NOTHING WAS OPEN, BECAUSE MOST THE BUSINESSES WERE PLAGUED WITH THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH WATER AND ELECTRIC OUTAGES. I DROVE SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE DURING THE SNOWMAGEDDON BECAUSE I HAD A CAR THAT WOULD DRIVE ON THE SNOW AND ICE.

PEOPLE WERE WALKING, OH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU VISITED, BUT THIS IS A WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT THAT HAS ACCESS TO EVERYTHING PEOPLE NEED.

NOW, THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME DURING SNOWMAGEDDON THAT THE POWER WAS OUT TO EVERY BUSINESS IN TOWN SQUARE, SO NOBODY WAS VISITING.

BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, YES, THEY WERE OUT WALKING.

I MEAN, I GET THAT PORTION, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE BUSINESS OPEN WHEN EMPLOYEES CAN'T MAKE IT TO IT. AND THERE'S NO ELECTRIC OR NO GAS OR NO WATER TO FEASIBLY RUN THE ESTABLISHMENTS.

WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THREE BUILDINGS AND SIXTY UNITS OR TWO BUILDINGS AND FIFTY EIGHT? THAT'S REALLY THE CHOICE.

THE ZONING IS FOR THREE BUILDINGS AND SIXTY.

I KNOW YOU'D RATHER HAVE NONE OF IT, BUT THE ZONING ALREADY EXISTS.

OK, THANK YOU. OK, I'M GOING.

WELL, LET ME READ A QUESTION, THEN I'LL LET YOU GO.

SO THIS IS FROM WANDA [INAUDIBLE] ONCE AGAIN THAT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN SOUTH LAKE.

WE LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND CENTRAL MARKET.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NO POWER, HAD NO POWER FOR FOUR DAYS.

FIFTY PERCENT OF THE HOUSES ON OUR STREET HAVE EXTENSIVE STORM DAMAGE AND WE HAVE HAD TO MOVE INTO EXTENDED STAY HOTEL IN THE NEARBY CITY.

THE POWER SYSTEM COULDN'T HANDLE THE NEEDS OF OUR CURRENT POPULATION.

SO LET'S THROW FIFTY FOUR MORE RESIDENCES INTO A COUPLE OF ACRES IN TOWN SQUARE.

WHAT ABOUT THE INCREASED WATER AND SEWERAGE FROM SUCH A HIGH DENSITY PROPOSAL? I SEE ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE IN THIS PROPOSAL.

PLEASE VOTE NO.

THANK YOU. OK, WHY DON'T YOU COME UP, UNLESS IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT FOR THAT.

WELL, I DO HAVE A COMMENT. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN TIMES SQUARE WAS DESIGNED FOR CONSIDERABLY MORE DENSITY THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT.

GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IT SEEMS SMART TO ME TO LEVERAGE AND GET A RETURN ON THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

AS FAR AS THE POWER, WE HAVE DEEPER ISSUES WITH POWER THAN ADDING FIFTY FOUR UNITS, TO TOWN SQUARE. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO CONTACT YOUR LEGISLATORS AND ASK THEM TO PLEASE THIS TIME CHANGE THE LAWS SO THAT OUR POWER PLANTS ARE REQUIRED TO WINTER RISE.

IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT, RIGHT? IT DOES COST MONEY, BUT WE NEED TO GET IT DONE.

OK, SIR, IF YOU CAN COME OUT AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MY NAME IS HENRY HUBBLE AND I'M A 2208 PATTERSON WAY AND I'D LIKE TO GO TO SLIDE.

I THINK IT WAS 16 THAT YOU HAD.

KIND OF SHOWS MY POINT OR ILLUSTRATES MY POINT IS AS WE INCREMENTALLY ADD AND ADD TO THE YOU KNOW IMPERVIOUS AREAS OF THE CITY, ALL OF THAT WATER FROM GATEWAY AND OFF THE CHART GOES BASICALLY THROUGH THE WEST JONES CREEK.

YES. AND IT WE'RE AT THE LAST POINT BEYOND WHERE THE DESIGN WAS DONE FOR KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD. THAT WAS WHERE EVERYBODY ENGINEERED TO BASICALLY BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS WATER THROUGH THAT. BUT BEYOND THAT, IT'S BASICALLY WE'RE DEALING WITH WHATEVER COMES THROUGH.

YEAH. AND THE AREA, YOU KNOW, THAT BASICALLY IS THE POND JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD AND ON THROUGH TO ACROSS KIMBELL IS OVERLOADED.

AND IF YOU WALK IF YOU GO THROUGH ANY OF THAT AREA, IT'S ERODING LIKE CRAZY AND FILLING OUR PATTERSON'S POND, YOU KNOW, THE SEDIMENT TRANSFER IS JUST MOVING IN THERE AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET IT ADDRESSED.

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AND I'M NOT REALLY EXPECTING YOU GUYS TO DO IT.

BUT WHAT I'M HOPING WE CAN GET IS THAT THERE WILL BE SUPPORT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DESIGN, WHAT GOES ON BEYOND THE KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD CROSSING, YOU KNOW, AND THE IMPACT THAT THAT IS HAVING IN THERE.

AND SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT THAT EVERY ONE OF THESE INCREMENTAL INCREASES OF IMPERVIOUS AREAS THAT WE DO NEED TO DO THAT STUDY BECAUSE WE'RE SUFFERING THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT DOING IT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

AND THIS ISN'T A DEVELOPER TRICK, BUT DENISE IS SITTING OVER THERE.

DENISE AND I WORKED TOGETHER FOR 25 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS DRAINAGE BASIN NOW FOR 15 YEARS.

YES, I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, MY CELL PHONE NUMBER, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND WRITING IT DOWN, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU.

I WOULD BE GLAD TOO. IS 817-291 OH GOOD BILL'S GIVING YOU A CARD.

DID YOU CROSS OUT THE OFFICE NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S AN OLD NUMBER.

THANK YOU, BILL. SO YOU'VE GOT CELL AND EMAIL.

LET'S TALK BECAUSE WE STUDIED THE BASIN.

I UNDERSTAND PATTERSON'S POND.

IS AT ZERO TOLERANCE.

RIGHT. AND ANYTHING THAT'S DONE UPSTREAM HAS GOT TO TAKE YOU INTO ACCOUNT.

WE HAVE MODELED THIS ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE CANNOT ADD ONE DROP OF WATER TO WHAT'S COMING THROUGH TO YOU. BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES IN THE DRAINAGE BASIN.

LOT OF PEOPLE. WE'RE IN THE OLD PARKVIEW SALES TRAILER, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE BACKSIDE OF HARKIN'S MOVIE THEATER.

IF YOU'RE IN THE AREA, WE HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICY.

FEEL FREE TO STOP AND I'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT.

AWESOME. THANK YOU. OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET ME READ ANOTHER COMMENT.

THIS IS FROM [INAUDIBLE] BRIGGS.

CALL IT WHAT IT IS.

FIFTY EIGHT GARDEN HOMES AND TWO BUILDINGS ARE APARTMENTS AND NOT GARDEN HOMES.

WHOEVER IS PROPOSING THIS IS TRYING TO REPURPOSE APARTMENTS AND CALL THEM GARDEN HOMES.

OVERWHELMINGLY NUMBER OF SOUTHLAKE CITIZENS ARE OPPOSED TO THIS.

IF IT WERE FIFTY EIGHT GARDEN HOMES, THERE'D BE FIFTY EIGHT HOMES ON FIFTY EIGHT ZERO LOT LINES. THANK YOU.

SO I HEAR THAT.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT THE STATEMENT THAT OVERWHELMINGLY SOUTHLAKE CITIZENS ARE OPPOSED TO THIS.

THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION I GET FROM SOUTHLAKE NOW, WHICH IS DIFFERENT TO A DECADE AGO, I WILL FREELY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A DECADE AGO EVERYTHING I GOT WAS HATE MAIL.

AND I MEAN, IT WAS SAD.

KIDS WERE GETTING BULLIED AT SCHOOL.

YOUR DAD'S AN APARTMENT DEVELOPER.

YOU GUYS SHOULD JUST GO HOME.

I MEAN, THAT WAS A ROUGH PERIOD TEN, FIFTEEN YEARS AGO.

NOW I GET A DIFFERENT KIND OF COMMENT WHEN I GET STOPPED ON THE STREET, IT'S WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING WE CAN AFFORD? NUMBER ONE COMMENT I GET I SWEAR, IT'S THE NUMBER ONE COMMENT.

THE MAYOR HAS SAID IN PUBLIC MEETINGS.

CRAP. I MEAN, AN AVERAGE OF ONE POINT FOUR MILLION FOR A CONDOMINIUM.

AND IT'S NOT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM CALIFORNIA THAT ARE PAYING ALL THESE PRICES OF PEOPLE, FOR THE MOST PART, THAT LIVE HERE, THAT WANT TO DOWNSIZE AS A COMMUNITY.

I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN TO OURSELVES AND REALIZE THERE'S A REASON WHY WHEN YOU TURN FIFTY FIVE DEMOGRAPHICALLY IN SOUTHLAKE YOU LEAVE, THERE'S A REASON WHY WE ARE STRUGGLING TO GET ENOUGH KIDDOS INTO OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE'RE CREATING THIS. SOME PEOPLE CALL IT TOUR OF DUTY.

THERE'S LIKE THIS WINDOW. YOU COME IN, YOU PUT YOUR KIDS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, YOU GET THEM THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN YOU'RE GONE.

AND FOR ME MY DREAM FOR SOUTH LAKE IS THAT WE BECOME A GENERATIONAL COMMUNITY WHERE WHEN YOUR KIDS ARE GROWN AND GONE, YOU DON'T NEED THE UPSTAIRS ANYMORE.

THERE'S HOUSING THAT'S ATTRACTIVE FOR YOU TO MOVE INTO.

THESE ARE EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN BUILT IN TOWN SQUARE IS VERY UPSCALE.

THEY'RE NOT BEING PRICED AT THIS LEVEL BECAUSE WE JUST THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT PRICE.

IT'S BECAUSE. IT'S COST PLUS USUALLY VERY THIN MARGINS, SO I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THE COMMENT. OK, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? OK, I DO HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I'M HERE.

SO THIS IS FROM JANE CRAVENS REGARDING BUILDING MORE GARDEN RESIDENCES.

JUST DRIVE CARROLL AVENUE, SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD, 114, GOING EAST TO GRAPEVINE AND YOU WILL FIND TOO MUCH AUTO TRAFFIC ALREADY.

WE DO NOT NEED MORE HOUSEHOLDS CONCENTRATED IN OUR AREA OF TOWN SQUARE.

I LIVE JUST OFF CARROLL AVENUE AND IT IS USUALLY DIFFICULT TO LEAVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET ON TO CARROLL AVENUE.

FIFTY SEVEN RESIDENCES WOULD EQUAL AROUND SEVENTY FIVE MORE CARS IN TOWN SQUARE.

IT IS DANGEROUS AS IT IS, AND PEOPLE DO NOT [INAUDIBLE] TRAFFIC SIGNS AND PEDESTRIANS ARE IN DANGER EVERY DAY.

JUST TRY TO CROSS 1709 IN CARROLL WALKING AND YOU WILL SEE WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 1998, THE REQUIREMENT WAS ONE HALF ACRE PER RESIDENCE.

NOW YOU'RE PROPOSING FIFTY SEVEN ON TWO POINT TWO ACRES?

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I DON'T THINK SO.

PLEASE PRESERVE THE SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE THAT ATTRACTED MOST OF US.

SO A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

I MOVED INTO A CONDOMINIUM IN PARK VIEW IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE MY HOUSE FLOODED AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE I CAN MOVE BACK INTO MY HOUSE.

AND FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF DOWNTOWN RESIDENTIAL, I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM ACTUALLY LIVING THERE.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHOCKED ME WAS SINCE FEBRUARY 19TH, I'VE HAD TWO WEEKS, MONDAY TO FRIDAY WHERE I DIDN'T USE MY CAR.

THAT NEVER HAPPENED WHEN I LIVED IN TIMARRON BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAD TO GET IN MY CAR AND GO SOMEWHERE. BUT IN TOWN SQUARE, I DON'T.

I WALK ACROSS THE STREET TO WORK.

I WALK DOWN TO RESTAURANTS, I WALK TO CENTRAL MARKET OR TRADER JOE'S OR KROGER OR PETSMART, HOME DEPOT.

I WALK EVERYWHERE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE.

SO THERE IS TRAFFIC.

THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON, CARROLL.

BUT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC ON CARROLL, THEY REALLY SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT KEEPS THOSE CARS OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM, BECAUSE THOSE CARS DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE.

FOR EVERY RESIDENT THAT MOVED HERE FROM OUTSIDE OF TOWN SQUARE, THEY TOOK A CAR THAT WAS PART OF THOSE TRIPS AND TOOK IT OFF THE STREET BECAUSE THEY MOVED INTO A DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT WHERE NOW THEY CAN WALK.

SO IF YOU WANT TO REDUCE TRAFFIC, GIVE YOUR RESIDENTS WHEN THEY'RE STUCK IN THEIR HOMES AND CAN'T LEAVE.

BECAUSE WHERE ELSE.

IF I LOVE MY COMMUNITY, IF I LOVE MY CHURCH, BUT I'M 60 YEARS OLD, MY KIDS ARE GONE, I DON'T NEED 5000 SQUARE FEET.

DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO LET THOSE PEOPLE DOWNSIZE, STAY IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND DRIVE LESS.

AS TO CARROLL, CARROLL, I KNOW THE CITY'S LOOKING AT AND JEROD.

I WON'T SPEAK OUT OF TURN. BUT THE CITY HAS STUDIED REENGINEERING, CARROLL, TO HELP WITH SOME OF THESE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS.

THAT'S NOT A TOWN SQUARE ISSUE, BUT IT IS A PROBLEM THAT COULD BE SOLVED.

AND I THINK WHEN THOSE CHANGES COME THROUGH TO CARROLL, CARROLL WILL BECOME MORE PASSABLE. RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT'S REALLY HARD.

YEAH, MY HOUSE FLOODED, TOO.

YOU HAD A PLACE TO GO.

WE'RE LIVING AT HOME WITH ALL THE DUST.

OH, BOY. YES, I DID.

I FEEL SO BLESSED THAT I ACTUALLY HAD A PLACE TO GO RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE I WORK.

CRAZY. OK, THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM LINDA CHRISTNER.

SOUTHLAKE WAS CREATED WITH THE CHARTER TO NOT ALLOW HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS.

THE BENEFIT OF THIS ARE NUMEROUS AND NEED TO BE RESPECTED.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF SOUTHLAKE TAXPAYERS WANT TO KEEP OUR TOWN THE BEST IT CAN BE AND WILL NOT STAND FOR HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS.

NO HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR RESPECTING SOUTHLAKE'S BEST INTEREST.

SO I JUST HAD THIS QUESTION POSED TO CURRENT MAYORAL AND CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES.

IF SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE CAME TO THE CITIZENS OF SOUTH LAKE TODAY, I THINK IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY IT WOULD BE DENIED BECAUSE SOUTH LAKE TOWN SQUARE IS A VERY HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS IN NORTH TEXAS, CERTAINLY ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE SUBURB. AND YET IT HAS INCREASED OUR HOME VALUES.

IT HAS GREATLY ENHANCED REVENUES TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND IT'S ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE REASONS WHY PEOPLE SAY THEY MOVED TO SOUTH LAKE BECAUSE IT HAS A DOWNTOWN. YOU CAN'T BUILD DOWNTOWNS LIKE YOU BUILD A KROGER SHOPPING CENTER.

YOU JUST CAN'T THEY ARE GOING TO BE HIGHER DENSITY.

THE TRICK AND THE REASON WHY I'M STILL HERE.

TWENTY FIVE OR HOWEVER MANY YEARS LATER, I WAS THIRTY SEVEN WHEN I CAME HERE.

I'M TURNING SIXTY FOUR THIS YEAR.

THIS IS DENSITY BY DESIGN, BUT IT'S QUALITY DENSITY BY DESIGN.

AND WE HAVE STUCK WITH IT FOR THAT LONG BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN IT, BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THE COMMUNITY OF SOUTHLAKE BUT IF YOU LIKE TOWN SQUARE THEN YOU HAVE TO GIVE US A HALL PASS FOR DENSITY. IF YOU DON'T LIKE TOWN SQUARE THEN YOU DON'T LIKE TOWN SQUARE.

BUT THAT'S THE CHOICE YOU'RE MAKING.

YOU CAN'T TRY TO TURN SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE INTO A LOW DENSITY SUBURBAN COLLECTION OF STRIP CENTERS BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO DEMOLISH THE WHOLE THING AND START OVER.

OKAY, I LIKE THE WAY IT IS.

OK, I JUST HAVE TWO MORE COMMENTS.

THIS NEXT ONE IS FROM SARAH [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW, I'M MURDERING THAT NAME.

WITH COVID-19 MY HUSBAND.

I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE ATTENDING TONIGHT'S SPIN FORUM.

HOWEVER, WE WOULD LIKE OUR VOICE TO BE HEARD ON OUR DISAPPROVAL, ON THE PRECEDENT BEING SET BY AGAIN, TRYING TO ALLOW TWO BUILDINGS FOR APPROXIMATELY FIFTY EIGHT FAMILIES CONCENTRATED ON TWO POINT TWO ACRES.

AND THE ONLY COMMENT SHE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONCEPT PLANS APPROVED.

SO THE ZONING IS ALREADY IN PLACE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO IMPROVE UPON THAT.

IF COUNCIL DENIES IT, THEN WE GO BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL APPROVAL, WHICH IS FOR MORE BUILDINGS AND MORE UNITS. WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER.

OK, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS FROM [INAUDIBLE].

SINCE I AM UNABLE TO ATTEND THE SPIN MEETING ON APRIL 27, I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE MY CONCERN REGARDING GARDEN APARTMENTS IN TOWN SQUARE, ANYTHING RESEMBLING MULTIPLE DWELLING

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HOMES RATHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

I AM OPPOSED TO.

OUR TOWN SQUARE IS ALREADY CONGESTED AND I AM OPPOSED TO HAVING UP TO FIFTY EIGHT MORE RESIDENTS AND TWO BUILDINGS, APARTMENTS ALREADY DEFEATED.

AND IN MY OPINION, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO PUT IN MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS WITH ANOTHER NAME GARDEN RESIDENCES.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A FANCY NAME FOR MORE APARTMENTS.

I AM OPPOSED.

SAME KIND OF COMMENT AS BEFORE AND BEFORE.

BEFORE YOU LEAVE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW SON IN LAW.

YEAH, APPRECIATE THAT.

OK, MOVING ON.

OUR NEXT PRESENTER IS K.C.

BILL'S AND HE'S HERE TO PRESENT SPIN 2021-08.

[4. SPIN2021-08- An applicant is proposing to redevelop the existing Texaco gas station at the northwest corner of W. Southlake Blvd. and N. White Chapel Blvd. into an approximately 4,600 square foot, multi-tenant retail building with drive-through located at 110 W. Southlake Blvd. within SPIN Neighborhood #7.]

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REDEVELOP THE EXISTING TEXACO GAS STATION AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD AND TO APPROXIMATELY 4600 SQUARE FOOT MULTITENANT RETAIL BUILDING WITH A DRIVE THRU LOCATED AT 110 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, EAST OF BICENTENNIAL PARK.

THANK YOU, K.C.

BILLS PHILIPS EDISON COMPANY.

DREW DYNARSKI IS OUR CIVIL ENGINEER FROM CLAY MOORE ENGINEERING.

I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING TIME TO HEAR US AND LOOK AT OUR DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE ARE THE OWNER OF SUNTREE SHOPPING CENTER, AS WE CALL IT'S THE TOM THUMB AND ALL THE SURROUNDING SHOPS. AND CURRENTLY IT'S ON THIS CORNER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TEXACO FUEL STATION. THERE'S A TACO STAND IN THERE AND THEN A CARWASH RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

SO WE ARE WE ARE PROUD TO OWN THIS PROPERTY IN SOUTH LAKE.

WE ARE LONG TERM OPERATORS OF SHOPPING CENTERS LIKE THIS.

SO OUR PLAN IS TO REMAIN IN SOUTH LAKE LONG TERM AND OPERATE THE SHOPPING CENTER AND PROVIDE TENANTS AND BUSINESSES THAT SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND THAT YOU ALL LIKE TO SHOP AT AND EAT AT. SO I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY HERE TO REDEVELOP WHAT WE BELIEVE IS AN UNDERUTILIZED CORNER.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IT'S AND YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH, BUT IT'S A TEXACO GAS STATION, AS I MENTIONED, WITH THE CANOPY AND THE FUEL PUMPS HERE AND THEN THE DRIVE THROUGH CAR WASH HERE. SO WE THINK WE CAN IMPROVE UPON IT.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AS THIS PARTICULAR TENANT WINDS DOWN ITS TENDENCY OVER THE REMAINING MONTHS OF 2021 TO DO SOMETHING MORE IN LINE WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER AND MORE IN LINE WITH THIS HIGH PROFILE CORNER THAT WE FEEL IS IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY. WE'D LIKE TO BUILD A NICE 4600 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDING.

WE DON'T HAVE TENANTS FOR IT.

WE WOULD GO TRY TO FIND TENANTS THAT MATCH, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE PROFILE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER. WE'D LOVE TO GET A RESTAURANT, SOME RETAIL TENANTS.

BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN PARTICULAR IN MIND.

BUT THAT'S THE INTENT, IS TO HAVE SOME SPLIT OF YOU KNOW, RETAIL TYPE USED TENANTS HERE.

SO I'M GOING TO KEEP IT VERY SHORT AND SWEET.

WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE LISTENING TO US AND APPRECIATE ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE, BUT WE THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY IMPROVE UPON WHAT'S THERE CURRENTLY.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? SO I LIVE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THIS.

AND IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING THAT I JUST LEARN THAT YOU OWN THAT SHOPPING CENTER.

SO I WILL TELL YOU, CURRENTLY, THE TRAFFIC ON WHITE CHAPELS' A HOT MESS.

AND THE CITY HAS BEEN MADE AWARE OF NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS OF COMMERCIAL TRUCKS GOING DOWN WHITE CHAPEL TWO ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR AM.

DOWN TO THE BUSINESSES LOCATED WITHIN A SHOPPING CENTER.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, OTHER THAN THE COMMERCIAL DELIVERIES AND PICKUPS, WE'RE DEALING WITH TRASH TRUCKS GOING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.

AND WITH THE CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE MUCH MORE NOTICEABLE THAN THEY WERE BEFORE AND THE PARKING SITUATION DOWN AT THAT SHOPPING CENTER WITH THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD.

IT'S ALREADY THE HOW YOU HAVE IT DRAWN HERE.

LOOKS LIKE A NICE FLAT SURFACE.

BUT IN REALISTIC WORLD, IT'S A VERY DEEP RIGHT DOWN A KIND OF A HILLSIDE, SO TO SPEAK.

SO THE REPRESENTATION IN THE PICTURE, UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF DIRT AND BUILD IT UP, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT EXACTLY MATCHES THE CURRENT STATION THAT'S THERE.

SO THERE'S CONCERNS, OF COURSE, WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC, BECAUSE

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GOD KNOWS, I'VE COMPLAINED ENOUGH ABOUT THAT TO THE CITY POLICE WAKING UP AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT WITH THAT. BUT THE AS I MENTIONED, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE TOWN SQUARE HAVING LIVING THERE, I KNOW THEY'RE REPLACING THE WATER LINES ON WHITE CHAPEL.

SO I KNOW THAT PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PORTION OF IT IS BEING UPDATED BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF WATER LINE BREAKS.

BUT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A ENORMOUS NUMBER OF GAS LINE BREAKS.

IT'S A LITTLE MORE FREQUENT THAN MOST OF US, I THINK ARE COMFORTABLE WITH ON THAT ROAD RIGHT NOW. AND THEN ALSO WITH THE DISRUPTION OF ELECTRIC SERVICE, WITH A CURRENT WITH THE CURRENT. CAN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT WITH THE CURRENT STUFF WE'VE GOT GOING ON.

AND ADDITIONALLY, THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC I CAN ONLY TO A NEW REMODEL OR BUILD WOULD GREATLY IMPACT THE ROAD.

AND AS WHITE CHAPEL CURRENTLY IS, IT IS CURRENTLY A NON COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ROUTE.

BUT AS IT STANDS, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A CONSTRUCTION IT WOULD BE A NONSTOP PROCESS.

AND WITH I'VE GOT TWO OTHER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GOING ON NEAR MY HOME.

WHILE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO START BEFORE SEVEN A.M., IT'S A FREQUENT PROBLEM ANY TIME FROM FIVE A.M. ON FOR THE VEHICLES, THE CONSTRUCTION, THE TRACTORS TO BE ROLLING BEFORE HOURS AS WELL AS AFTER THE QUIET HOURS.

IT I JUST KIND OF WANT TO ADDRESS THIS IN ADVANCE.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU DO GET THIS APPROVED, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOUR VENDORS TMI MOMENT HERE.

BUT WITH THE CITY AND OTHER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WE'VE HAD GOING ON, I HAVE TAKEN LIKE TAKING A SNAPSHOT OF [INAUDIBLE] OF SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES RUN THEIR COMMERCIAL DOT NUMBERS THROUGH THE FMSC TO SEE THEIR FEDERAL MOTOR CARRIER SAFETY RATINGS.

THEY ARE TRASH LIKE THE MOTOR CARRIERS GIVE LIKE A FIVE PERCENT RATING FOR SAFETY.

AND SOME OF THESE TRUCKERS ARE TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT AND ABOVE ON FAILURES OF WHETHER IT'S DRIVERS, WHETHER IT'S SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH.

AND THAT'S THE LAST THING WE NEED IN OUR TOWN, IS ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL HARM AND EXPOSURE TO POTENTIAL RISKS.

OK, THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

YEAH, I CAN ADDRESS A FEW.

I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND THAT YOU'RE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO YOU ARE CORRECT.

THE GRADE, IT DOES DIP DOWN AND THAT WILL BE SIMILAR WITH THIS.

WE WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO BUILD IT UP OR FLATTEN IT OUT IS TO REMAIN AS IT IS CURRENTLY.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT TRUCKS.

I MEAN, I THINK ONE POSITIVE THING HERE IS YOU'LL NO LONGER HAVE FUEL TRUCKS COMING IN HERE. BUT AS WITH ANY VIBRANT SHOPPING CENTER, AND WE HOPE THIS BUILDING WILL BE VIBRANT AS WELL, THERE THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, CONSUMERS PARKING THERE WE'LL MEET ALL, YOU KNOW, CITY PARKING CODES.

THERE WILL BE DELIVERIES PERIODICALLY.

WHAT'S NICE ABOUT BUILDINGS LIKE THIS IS YOU KNOW, A BIG TRUCK COMING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY IS MOST DISRUPTIVE FOR THE RETAILER.

SO THEY SELF REGULATE AND IF THEY DON'T, WE HELP REGULATE THEM.

SO I HOPE THERE IS AN IMPROVEMENT.

THERE CERTAINLY WILL BE TRUCKS, AS THERE ARE WITH ANY, YOU KNOW, RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.

BUT AGAIN, NO LONGER THE BIG FUEL TRUCKS.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY A BENEFIT THERE.

I CAN'T SPEAK.

TO THE WATER LINES IN THE CITY CAPACITY, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THE CITY CAN, YOU KNOW, SERVE ALL OF THE BUILDINGS AND ITS RESIDENTS, WELL, THAT'S THAT'S BEYOND OUR SCOPE.

HOPEFULLY IT IS AN IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE NO LONGER TAXING THE SYSTEM WITH A CARWASH.

AND YOU KNOW, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE REALLY THE ONES I CAN ADDRESS.

BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO MEETING ALL CITY CODES IN TERMS OF PARKING AND ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS THAT WAY. OK, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OK, THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, APPRECIATE IT.

OK, OUR NEXT PRESENTER IS [INAUDIBLE] AND SHE IS HERE TO PRESENT SPIN 2021-09.

[5. SPIN2021-09 - An applicant is proposing a 3-story, approximately 32,000 square foot new corporate headquarters with lease space for XO Marriage on approximately 5 acres near the intersection of Grace Ln. and E. Kirkwood Blvd. by the Gateway Church campus at 1351 E. Kirkwood Blvd. within SPIN Neighborhood #4.]

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A THREE STORY, APPROXIMATELY 32000 SQUARE FOOT NEW CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS WITH THE LEASED SPACE FOR XO MARRIAGE ON APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF GRACE LN.

AND EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD BY THE GATEWAY CHURCH CAMPUS AT 1351 EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU SHELLEY AND THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO ME AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT THE PROJECT XO MARRIAGE IN THIS SPIN MEETING TODAY.

I'M [INAUDIBLE] AND I'M A PROJECT MANAGER AT PARKHILL.

AND PARKHILL IS AUTHORIZED TO ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT THE OWNER, MR.

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BRENT AND OUR TEAM ARE HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION, THEY CAN PROVIDE YOU THE ANSWER.

XO MARRIAGE IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

IT EXISTS TO HELP COUPLES HAVE A HEALTHY AND STRONG MARRIAGE.

THEY DO THIS BY HOSTING CONFERENCE, CREATING RESOURCES AND OFFERING ENCOURAGING DIGITAL CONTENT.

THEIR WORLD CLASS.

SPEAKER OFFER LEADING [MARRIAGE] ADVISE TO EQUIP COUPLES WITH THE NECESSARY TOOLS FOR A SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE.

XO MARRIAGE IS PLANNING TO BUILD THEIR OWN PERMANENT CENTER TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES CLOSE TO GATEWAY CAMPUS.

THE SITE IS LOCATED INTERSECTION OF GRACE LN AND KIRKWOOD, THE PROPOSED SITE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THIS LOCATION.

ORIGINALLY, THIS LAND WAS PART OF THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN AND THE GATEWAY CHURCH DONATED THIS LAND AND IT'S CLOSE TO FIVE ACRES LANDS TO XO MARRIAGE BACK IN 2016.

THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN ZONED, AS NR-PUD.

WE ARE USING THE SAME ZONING WITH SOME VARIANTS.

WE ALSO HAVE APPLIED FOR REZONING AS WE ARE NOT PART OF THE GATEWAY MASTER PLAN ANYMORE.

THE NEXT PLAN IS KIND OF SHOWING THE MASTER PLAN AND SHOWING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR XO LOCATION, AND THIS IS OUR XO LOCATION AND THIS IS THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN.

AND THIS IS KIND OF SHOWING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND SHOWING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOME WAYS IS TRYING TO BRING A GOOD LOOKING BUILDING AND START RAISING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BY DEVELOPING THIS PROJECT.

HERE IS THE OVERALL CONCEPT FOR THE OUTSIDE PLAN.

YOU KNOW, OUR BUILDING IS KIND OF LOCATED IN THIS LOCATION.

WE HAVE A BACK PATIO AND THIS BUILDING IS KIND OF PROPOSING THREE STORY AND CLOSE TO 30000 SQUARE FEET.

AND WE HAVE OUR PARKING LOT HERE AND THEN OUR KIND OF BUILDING A ROUNDABOUT, YOU KNOW, AROUND THIS CIRCLE AND FOR [INAUDIBLE].

AND WITH THIS KIND OF ENHANCING OUR SURROUNDINGS AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS SLIDE IS KIND OF SHOWING THE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF EXISTING TREES WE HAVE IN THIS LAND.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO USE UTILIZE SOME OF THE TREES AND KIND OF TRYING TO CONSERVE SOME OF THE TREES.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CITY REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE ALL HAVE LESS IMPACT ON EXISTING NATURE AND ENVIRONMENT.

HERE IS KIND OF MORE DETAIL ABOUT HOW WE WOULD CONDUCT THIS PLAN.

THIS SLIDE IS KIND OF SHOWING OUR LANDSCAPE.

HERE IS KIND OF OVERALL, OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN, [INAUDIBLE] THE LANDSCAPE AND DROP OFF AND AMPLE VISITOR AND EMPLOYEE PARKING AND VISITOR MAY ENJOY A PATIO LOCATED ON THE BACK AND ALONG WITH THE BUILDING'S EASTERN SIDE, WHICH IS KIND OF ENCLOSED WITH AMPLE PLANTINGS, LIGHTING AND A PRIVACY WALL.

HERE IS KIND OF OUR EXTERIOR OR AND INTERIOR IMAGE OF THE BUILDING.

IN THIS EXTERIOR IMAGE YOU'LL SEE, THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO A BALANCE WITH THE MATERIAL AND [INAUDIBLE] AND COMPOSITION USE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SURROUNDING LANDSCAPE.

INTERIOR IMAGES ARE SHOWING THE USE OF INTERIOR SPACE AND RELATIONSHIP WITH THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR CIRCULATION AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SURROUNDINGS.

HERE IS KIND OF WE ARE DOING THE ARTICULATION, ANALYZES AND KIND OF SHOWING THE MATERIAL KIND OF CALCULATION TO MEET THE CITY REQUIREMENTS, AND IF YOU SEE THAT MATERIAL CALCULATION AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO USE MOST OF OUR MATERIAL IS KIND OF CONCRETE PAINTED CONCRETE WALL AND STUCCO.

AND WE ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO ACCENT TO [INAUIBLE] PANEL AND GLASS AND IS KIND OF MADE THE MORE THAN 80 PERCENT MASONRY REQUIREMENTS BY CITY OF SOUTH LAKE.

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AND HERE IS KIND OF SHOWING THE OVERALL FLOORPLAN, YOU KNOW, OUR FIRST PRIORITY IS KIND OF FIRST FLOOR AND SECOND FLOOR THEY ARE GOING TO USED RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO DEVELOP IN THIS AND THEN IN FUTURE WHEN THEY WILL JUST DEVELOP THIS THIRD FLOOR.

AND HERE IT IS KIND OF LITTLE BIT DETAILS OF THE FIRST FLOOR AND YOU WILL SEE THAT IN FIRST FLOOR, WE ALSO HAVE A LITTLE CAFÉ AND YOU SEE THAT ON THIS SIDE, HOW WE ARE THINKING THIS CAFÉ IS GOING TO BE BUILT AND RELATIONSHIP WITH THE EXTERIOR, EXTERIOR AND VIEW. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A TWO HUNDRED SERIES CLASSROOM, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS THE CLASSROOM WE ARE THINKING WITH THE MATERIAL AND THE RELATIONSHIP.

AND WE WILL HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, CONFERENCE AND ANY USE FOR TV.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A TV BROADCAST AREA ON THIS AREA AND OFFICES ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THEN ON THE SECOND FLOOR WHERE WE HAVE MOSTLY OFFICES AND WE HAVE TWO EXECUTIVE OFFICE AND A CONFERENCE ROOM AND THEN WAITING AREA AND THEN LITTLE.

AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO RECEPTION AREA AND THEN WE HAVE TWO BEDROOM.

ONE IS ON THIS SIDE AND ONE ON THIS SIDE IS KIND OF MAINLY THEY HAVE THEY ARE GOING TO USE THIS SPACE FOR SOLVING THEIR SERVICE.

THAT'S DOWN TO THE OVERALL PRESENTATION FOR THIS PROJECT.

YOU KNOW I HAVE MY TEAM WITH ME.

THE OWNER, MR. BRENT IS HERE, AND THEN OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TEAM AND ALSO LANDSCAPE TEAM OUT HERE, TOO. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION, YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTION.

I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME.

OK, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OK, I JUST HAVE ONE.

SO IS THIS PART OF GATEWAY CHURCH'S OR IS THIS SEPARATE BUSINESS? NO, I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW.

OK, SO THIS SIDE WAS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN AND PART OF THE GATEWAY, BUT THIS LAND IS DONATED AND BACK IN 2016 TO XO MARRIAGE.

OH, OK, OK.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SHOWING THIS RELATIONSHIP, HOW IT WAS RELATED WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND THE OTHER STUFF. OK, I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT.

OK, NO PROBLEM. OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THAT. OK, OUR LAST PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS DAVID GREGORY AND HE IS HERE TO

[6. SPIN2021-10 - An applicant is proposing a zoning change and site plan to allow for the development of an approximately 10,000 square foot The Learning Experience facility with outdoor play area to the north of W. Southlake Blvd. and to the west of River Oaks Dr. within SPIN Neighborhood #11.]

PRESENT THE SECOND ITEM ON THE EXCUSE ME, THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN 2021-10.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 10000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE FACILITY WITH OUTDOOR PLAY AREA TO THE NORTH OF WEST SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD AND TO THE WEST OF RIVER OAKS DRIVE, WHICH IS 102 RIVER OAKS DRIVE TO THE WEST OF SPROUT'S FARMER'S MARKET GROCERY STORE.

GOOD. GOOD EVENING.

DAVID GREGORY, DCG ENGINEERING 1668 KELLER PARKWAY SUITE 100 KELLER, TEXAS.

AS YOU DESCRIBED, I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE.

JUST A VERY QUICK BACKGROUND ON THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE, THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE IS A CHILD CARE FACILITY THAT WAS FOUNDED IN 1980 BY THE WEISSMAN FAMILY, TLE HAS POSITIVELY IMPACTED THE LIVES OF CHILDREN BY DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING GROUNDBREAKING CARE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

TODAY THEY'RE OUR NATIONAL LEADER IN THE EARLY CHILD CARE SPACE.

WITH OVER FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY LOCATIONS OPERATING OR UNDER DEVELOPMENT, THEIR PROPRIETARY PURPOSE BUILT CENTERS FOR CHILDREN OFFER SAFE, SECURE, PRIVATE ACCESS WITH SEPARATE CLASSROOMS FOR EACH OF THE SIX STAGES OF EARLY DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT'S FROM SIX MONTHS TO FIVE YEARS.

AND THE TEN THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT CENTERS OFFERS SPACIOUS, FENCED IN 5000 SQUARE FOOT PLAYGROUND AREA WITH DESIGNATED AREAS FOR EACH.

THIS IS A COPY OF THE EXISTING FINAL PLOT.

AS YOU DESCRIBE, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY OF SOUTH LAKE.

WE'RE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD, SLIGHTLY WEST OF THE SPROUT'S IN THE

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WE'RE PROPOSING TO GO INTO THE EXISTING RIVER OAKS EDITION.

THAT'S A CURRENT BUSINESS PARK THAT HAS A FEW EXISTING BUILDINGS AND TENETS.

THE PROPOSED LEARNING CENTER IS GOING TO DEVELOP A LOT THREE A PORTION OF LOT THREE AND ALL OF LOT FIVE LOT THREE IS THE SECOND LOT SHOWN FROM THE RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM SIDE OF THE SCREEN. AND LOT FIVE IS THE ONE GOING INTERIOR TO IT.

AS PART OF THE PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO REPLAT THE LOTS AND COMBINE AND RE PROPORTIONATE.

THIS ATTACHED PLAN IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN WITH AN AERIAL BACKGROUND.

WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO RELOCATE ONE OF THE EXISTING DRIVES THAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED ONTO RIVER OAKS DRIVE.

WE'RE GOING TO SET UP THE DRIVEWAYS TO BE COMMON ACCESS WITH THE REMAINING LOT, THREE IN FUTURE LOT IN LOT.

ONE, WE HAVE A 10000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING INTO THE NORTH.

ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT 10000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS THE 5000 SQUARE FOOT PLAY AREA.

AS YOU WILL SEE THE WAY THE BUILDING IS LOCATED, WE'RE SLIGHTLY OVER 40 FEET FROM OUR REAL PROPERTY LINE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE A NICE, SPACIOUS BUFFER THAT CAN BE LANDSCAPED AND KEEP DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY.

RESIDENCE IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH OR THE NORTH AND WEST SIDE OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. THIS SLIDE IS A BLACK AND WHITE ELEVATION'S OF WHAT WE BELIEVE THE BUILDING'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, IT'S GOING TO BE FINISHED WITH MASONRY, STONE AND OTHER HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS.

AND THEN I HAVE A COLOR ELEVATION [INAUDIBLE] THERE WE GO.

WE HAVE A COLOR ELEVATION THAT WE'LL GIVE YOU.

IT DOESN'T LIKE THE COLOR ELEVATION [LAUGHTER]. WE'LL GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF THE ANTICIPATED COLORS OF THE BUILDING.

WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR AND LIKE TO ANY QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OK, I DO HAVE A COMMENT THAT WAS SENT IN AND THIS IS FROM KEVIN [INAUDIBLE].

I AM A PROPERTY OWNER IN THIS OFFICE PARK AND WOULD LIKE THE ZONING TO REMAIN AS IT IS CURRENTLY C2 FOR LOT 1 AND 0-1 FOR LOT 3.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AT THE ONLY EMPTY ENTRY EXIT INTO THE OFFICE PARK, AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL NOISE THAT WILL BE CREATED.

I ALSO FEEL THAT THE DAYCARE WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY VALUES OF MY TWO OFFICES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THIS OFFICE PARK, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR THAT.

WELL, THAT'S VERY INTERESTING COMMENTS CURRENTLY.

AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, LOT ONE AND I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE.

LOT 1 AND 2 ARE BOTH ZONED FOR THE C2.

WE ARE TRYING THAT WOULD ALLOW THE DAYCARE OR CHILD CARE.

SO IT'S ALREADY IN USE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY EXPANDING IT.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OPPORTUNITY.

AS YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE PARK HAS BEEN DEVELOPED APPROXIMATELY 2007.

IT'S BEEN FAIRLY VACANT.

THIS IS A WAY TO INCREASE THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, SPUR ACTIVITY, ETC.

WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED.

AND I'LL GET BACK TO THE SITE PLAN HERE WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'VE PROPOSED.

WE'RE SETTING THIS UP TO WHERE WE'LL HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS AND IT'LL BE A VERY EASY TRAFFIC FLOW FOR THE PARENTS TO BE ABLE TO COME DROP OFF KIDS, PICK UP KIDS, ETC.

TO HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AS POSSIBLE.

YOU KNOW, DEPENDING UPON THE OFFICE AND THE TENANTS IN THE OFFICES, THERE ARE SOME TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT THE CHILD CARE WILL HAVE MORE TRAFFIC VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING AND A BIGGER PICKUP TIME AT THREE TO FIVE.

BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE COMPETING WITH BUSINESSES ALL DAY.

SO IT WILL HAVE A COUPLE OF PEAKS.

BUT THE FACILITY HAS OR THE OVERALL ROADWAY ON RIVER OAKS DRIVE HAS BEEN SET UP TO HANDLE TRAFFIC. AND OBVIOUSLY SALT LAKE BOULEVARD HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF

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TRAFFIC AND THEY'LL HAVE THE DIVIDED MEDIAN THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO NAVIGATE.

SO I HOPE THAT HELPS.

IF WE CAN GET HIS INFORMATION, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM INDEPENDENTLY, THOUGH. OK, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THE RULES ON THAT.

I'M A VOLUNTEER, SO I'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH STAFF, BUT WE PROBABLY CAN WORK SOMETHING.

THANK YOU. IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ASK A QUESTION OR GIVE A COMMENT.

HI, I'M MAUREEN [INAUDIBLE] AND I AM A PROPERTY OWNER IN THE RIVER OAKS DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS WE DID NOT REALIZE IT WAS GOING TO BE LOT THREE AND FIVE WE THOUGHT ORIGINALLY WAS GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THE STREET.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT TYPE OF FENCING ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING AROUND THE PLAYGROUND? ANY TYPE OF SOUND BARRIERS? BECAUSE THE BUSINESSES AROUND US ARE PROFESSIONAL BUSINESSES NOT ACTING.

I DO WORRY THAT THE NOISE IS GOING TO IMPACT THE BUSINESSES AND OUR PRODUCTIVITY.

AND I CAN GET YOU A RENDERING OF THAT.

SO ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING TO WORK WITH TXDOT TO ADD ANY TYPE OF A TURN LANE, BECAUSE AS YOU'RE HEADED WESTBOUND, THAT AREA IS REALLY NOT SET UP TO HANDLE HIGH, HIGH TRAFFIC FLOW. IT'S JUST NOT AND THERE'S NO RED LIGHT.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET OUT DUE TO THE CURVE.

SO IF YOU'RE TURNING.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONE ROAD COMING IN AND OUT, SO THERE'S ONLY ONE ROAD FROM 1709 ENTERING IN AND OUT OF THE COMPLEX ITSELF.

SO COMING FROM THE WEST, SO IF I'M HEADED WESTBOUND ON 1709 AND I'M TURNING NORTH INTO THE COMPLEX, THERE'S NO TURN LANE.

AND SO I JUST WORRY WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC DURING PEAK HOURS BECAUSE RUSH HOUR IS GENERALLY WHEN MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE DROPPING OFF.

I DO WORRY ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF BACKUP AND THERE'S NO WAY FOR CARS TO GO BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT, ONE ROAD, TWO LANES THAT SERVICE THE ENTIRE COMPLEX.

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH TXDOT.

BUT I DID DO A PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AS PART OF THE OVERALL ZONING PACKAGE.

OK, AND ON THERE, WHAT I FOUND IS THE BASELINE IS TO TRAFFIC ENGINEERS MANUALS OR TRAFFIC GENERATION AND FOR VARIOUS TYPES OF USES.

IT'S USUALLY BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE OR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT FACTORS.

BUT FOR CHILD CARE, IT'S A FUNCTION OF TRIPS PER SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE PEAK HOUR, IN A PEAK HOUR, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE AFTERNOON HOURS, THREE TO THREE P.M.

TO FIVE P.M. THIS FACILITY IS ONLY EXPECTED TO GENERATE I WANT TO SAY IT WAS 96 OR 98 MOVEMENTS IN THE PEAK HOUR.

NOW, MOVEMENT IS DESCRIBED AND DEFINED AS EITHER A TRIP IN OR A TRIP OUT.

SO IF A PERSON WAS TO COME TO PICK THEIR CHILD UP AND THEN THEY LEAVE THE FACILITY, THAT'S TWO TRIPS.

SO THE MOVEMENT INTO THE FACILITY IS TRIP ONE.

THE MOVEMENT OUT OF THE FACILITY IS TRIP TWO.

DID YOU TALK ABOUT THE OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING? I MISSED THAT.

IT'S A CHILD CARE, BUT I MEAN, USUALLY THERE'S OCCUPANTS, A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY FOR THE BUILDING. DID YOU. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

ARE WE TALKING A HUNDRED KIDS OR ARE WE TALKING FIVE HUNDRED KIDS? I WOULD DOUBT THAT IT WOULD BE FIVE HUNDRED KIDS GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY.

OBVIOUSLY.

OK, THERE'S LIKE I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S SEVENTEEN TEACHERS AND THERE'S SO IT'S ABOUT ONE SEVENTY FIVE. SO SEVENTEEN TEACHERS, SOME ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND THEN AT MAXIMUM CAPACITY A HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE KIDS.

OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND IF YOU WANT KEVIN'S INFORMATION I CAN GET IT TO YOU WHEN YOU WRAP UP.

THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT SAVES ME FROM THE HIPAA LAWS.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND PRESENTING.

WE APPRECIATE IT. THIS CONCLUDES OUR MEETING AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROCESS.

AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND LET'S SEE, THE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND WATCH THEM ON VOD VIDEO

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ON DEMAND OR YOU CAN CATCH THEM THROUGH THE WEBSITE.

YOU'LL SEE VIDEO ON DEMAND AND YOU CAN REPLAY THEM.

AND I GUESS THAT IS STAFF IS DOING A REPORT.

SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THESE REPORTS, YOU CAN CHECK WITH STAFF ON THAT LATER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.