[1. Call to Order.]
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GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY, WELCOME TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CITY HALL AT 6:34 PM ON WHAT I'M READING IS THURSDAY, MAY 6TH.
WELCOME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR THIS EVENING.
I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE A FEW KIND OF LAY OF THE LAND COMMENTS JUST SO EVERYBODY KIND OF KNOWS HOW WE'LL BE APPROACHING THINGS TONIGHT HERE IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
[2. A. Executive Session]
WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS SOMETHING WITH CITY ATTORNEY THAT SESSION.YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS GET IN TROUBLE WHEN I TRY TO HANDICAP HOW LONG THEY'LL TAKE BECAUSE I'M ONE THING FOR SURE I KNOW I'LL BE WRONG, MAYBE PLUS OR MINUS 25 MINUTES, MAYBE 30, MAYBE 20, HOPEFULLY NOT LONGER THEN 30 WILL SEE.
WE'LL TRY TO BE BACK OUT HERE AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE.
THEN WE'LL HEAR THE REST OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.
AND THEN WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO THE SIGN BOARD MEETING AFTER THAT.
AND WE'VE ALREADY HEARD SOME OF THE SIGN BOARD CASES AT OUR WORK SESSION.
SO I THINK WE'RE FAIRLY UP TO SPEED ON THOSE.
SO I KNOW THOSE OF YOU THERE FOR THAT PART OF THE AGENDA YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL KEEP THINGS MOVING ALONG.
GIVEN THAT OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AGENDA, IF YOU'RE HERE FOR SIGN BOARD, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WON'T GET THE SIGN BOARD UNTIL AT LEAST 7:30.
THAT'S PROBABLY BEING OPTIMISTIC.
WE'LL SEE IF IT'S CLOSER TO EIGHT.
BUT JUST JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A LAY OF THE LAND IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE MEETING THIS EVENING.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S HELPFUL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S STILL A LITTLE SQUISHY WITH THAT.
I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION STATEMENT, WHICH STATES THAT AS CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMISSION, I HEREBY ADVISE YOU THAT WE ARE GOING INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.071 TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEYS.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR YOUR PATIENCE, 7:08 P.M., SO NOT TOO BAD ON MY HANDICAPPING JOB THERE, I'M CERTAINLY DONE WORSE, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND THAT WILL KEEP GOING THROUGH THE REST OF OUR REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS THIS EVENING ON ANYTHING.
OK? NO, SIR. NO CHAIRMAN COMMENTS THIS EVENING.
I THINK MAYBE IF YOUR REGULAR VIEWERS, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A COUPLE, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE KIND OF DIALED BACK OUR COVID PROTOCOLS A LITTLE BIT HERE IN TERMS OF KIND OF ONE STEP CLOSER TO BACK TO NORMAL, THAT WE'VE STILL GOT SOME SPACING OUT IN THE GALLERY AND THE MICROPHONE, I'M ASSUMING STAFF, I GUESS, THAT WE'LL USE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE UP HERE THIS EVENING. AND PRESENTATION, I GUESS, BY OR APPLICANTS CAN BE UP AT THE STAND AND WE'LL HAVE RESIDENTS OVER HERE AT THE MICROPHONE.
OK, SO STILL SOME OF THAT GOING ON.
SO JUST ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THAT.
I GUESS WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING ON APRIL 22ND. EVERYBODY'S BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THOSE MINUTES.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THAT? OTHERWISE WE CAN MOVE TO A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FROM APRIL 22ND 2021.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
OK, LET'S GO AND VOTE, PLEASE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW, WE'LL GO AND MOVE INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
[6. Consider: ZA21-0025, Site Plan for The Garden District Residences]
ONLY ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER SIX IS CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN FOR THE GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENCES HERE IN TOWN SQUARE.
GOOD EVENING MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. THE ITEM FOR YOU IS ITEM SIX IS A SITE PLAN FOR THE GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTS.
THE REQUEST IS APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN FOR THE GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENCES CONSISTING OF 58 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN TWO FOUR STORY BUILDINGS ON APPROXIMATELY TWO POINT TWO ACRES.
THE PROPERTY'S ADDRESS, AS INDICATED ON THE SLIDE IN TERMS OF THE PRESENTATION OUTLINED THIS EVENING. I'D LIKE TO REVIEW SOME OF THE GARDEN DISTRICT ZONING HISTORY THAT WILL GO OVER THE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, AND THEN I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THE APPLICANT ALSO DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION FOLLOWING STAFF'S PRESENTATION. BEFORE I GET INTO THE HISTORY, THE THE LAND USE AND THE ZONING SYSTEM CONSISTS OF TOWN CENTER AND THE DT DISTRICT, THE COMMISSION IS FAMILIAR WITH THE LAND USE
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DESIGNATION AND THE ZONING DESIGNATION THAT THE USES AS PROPOSED ARE PERMITTED BOTH IN THE LAND USE AND ZONING CATEGORIES.WE'RE GOING TO BE REFERRING TO AN AREA CALLED THE GARDEN DISTRICT THIS EVENING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHEN WHEN YOU HEAR THE GARDEN DISTRICT, YOU UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHICH AREA OF TOWN SQUARE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY IS A SEVEN 1/2 ACRE CARVE OUT IN THE DT DISTRICT, WHICH HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE SET OF REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL DEFINITIONS, THE GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTS, SOME OTHER CRITERIA IN TERMS OF STANDARDS RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND SO WHEN WE REFER TO THE GARDEN DISTRICT AREA, WE'RE REFERRING TO THE AREA OUTLINED IN BLUE. THE SITE PLAN THIS EVENING IS ON ABOUT TWO POINT TWO ACRES, AND THAT'S THE AREA IN GREEN. AND WHEN WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, A REQUIREMENT OF THE DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT IS THAT BEFORE A BUILDING PERMIT CAN BE PULLED, A SITE PLAN HAS TO BE APPROVED FOR ANY ZONING AND CONCEPT PLAN THAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN THIS AREA.
AND SO THE THE BROWNSTONES TO THE SOUTH WHAT, THE PHASE ONE BROWNSTONES, THE PARKVIEW RESIDENCE, WHICH THE THIRTY SIX UNITS JUST TO THE WEST OF THIS, THOSE THOSE TECHNICALLY LAY OUTSIDE THE GARDEN DISTRICT AREA.
SO WHEN WE REFER TO THAT, WE'RE REFERRING TO THIS SEVEN ACRES.
I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GO BACK AND PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON A HISTORY OF THIS AREA AND HOW IT EVOLVED AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
BUT IN 2003, THE DOWNTOWN OR THE DT ZONING DISTRICT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY.
AND ONE OF THE USES THAT WERE PERMITTED AS PART OF THAT DT CREATION OF THAT PARTICULAR ZONING CATEGORY WAS THAT SINGLE FAMILY, ATTACHED AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, WHICH THE BROWNSTONES ARE ALLOWED THROUGH THE ADOPTION OR APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
BACK IN 2003, THE SUP FOR ONE HUNDRED FIFTEEN, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE CALL THE BROWNSTOWN UNITS, WAS APPROVED FOR THE TOWN SQUARE DISTRICT IN THE CONFIGURATION OF THE CONCEPT THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT IN THIS SLIDE, THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY TO DO SOME COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL MIX, I BELIEVE 19 LOTS COULD BE THE LIVE WORK TYPE UNIT.
AND WE HAVE A FEW THOSE THAT WERE BUILT IN THAT PHASE ONE.
AND SO THAT SUP WAS IN PLACE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
BACK IN 2011, WE AMENDED THE DT DISTRICT TO CREATE THE GARDEN DISTRICT.
AND SO THE GARDEN DISTRICT IS THAT BLUE AREA THAT I SHOWED A COUPLE OF SLIDES AGO.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S A UNIQUE SET OF REGULATIONS FOR THAT AREA OF TOWN SQUARE.
AND ONE OF THOSE IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENCES.
THERE'S A DEFINITION THAT'S PROVIDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
AND THOSE THAT'S THE TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO THIS EVENING.
ALSO DURING 2011, WHEN THIS ZONING DISTRICT WAS MODIFIED, COOPER AND COMPANY CAME FORWARD WITH A CONCEPT PLAN WHICH SHOWED THE 10 BUILDING CONFIGURATION THAT YOU SEE ON THIS THIS PLAN. IT HAD 130 CONDO RESIDENCE AND 10 BUILDINGS.
THERE WERE SOME BROWNSTONES THAT WERE PART OF THIS, 10 BROWNSTONES, PRIMARILY THE THE FAR EASTERN PART OF TOWN SQUARE NEXT TO THE HOME DEPOT, WHERE PART OF THIS CONCEPT BACK IN 2011. IN 2013, THIS CONCEPT PLAN OR ZONING WAS MODIFIED.
AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN AND ZONING THAT IS IN PLACE, WHICH YOU WILL LOOK AT THIS EVENING WHEN YOU'RE EVALUATING YOUR SITE PLAN.
THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT PLAN CHOSE THREE BUILDINGS.
THE GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTS WERE REDUCED FROM ONE 130 TO 60.
THE BROWNSTONES WERE INCREASED FROM TEN TO THIRTY THREE.
BUT THE TOTAL GARDEN DISTRICT UNITS, AGAIN, IN THAT SEVEN ACRES, THAT BLUE LINE DROPPED FROM 140 TO 93.
BUT THIS IS THE REGULATORY DOCUMENT ARE THE CONCEPT PLAN ZONING THAT IS IN PLACE AND ENTITLED ON THAT PROPERTY TODAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL BE USING AS YOUR FRAMEWORK TO EVALUATE YOUR SITE PLAN THIS EVENING.
THIS IS JUST SOME DETAILS, A MORE DETAILED CONCEPT PLAN THAT PROVIDES SOME OF THE DATA JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEW.
HIGHLIGHTS THERE ARE THREE BUILDINGS BUILT A 24.
BUILDING B, WHICH IS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE 22 RESIDENCE, AND THE BUILDING C HAD 14.
THE FLOOR CAME ABOUT A LITTLE OVER ONE HUNDRED THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
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THE CONCEPT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, YOU'LL SEE 58 RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTS, RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THAT'S DOWN TWO FROM THIS CONCEPT PLAN.AND THEN THE FLOOR AREA IS ABOUT TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET LESS.
THE CONCEPT PLAN BACK IN 2013 DID INDICATE THAT THERE WOULD BE UNDERGROUND PARKING.
AND YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR SITE PLAN THAT THERE IS AN UNDERGROUND PARKING CONCEPT WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THIS THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THAT CONCEPT PLAN.
IN ADDITION, WHEN THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS APPROVED, THERE WAS A VARIANCE TO GO TO FOUR STORIES THAT REMAINS IN PLACE.
AND THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING AND THAT VARIANCE THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2013.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE VARIANCE IN PLACE.
THIS IS ALSO PART OF THAT CONCEPT PLAN.
THE GENERAL LOOK FEEL ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING WAS ADOPTED AS PART OF THE ZONING IN PLACE. A QUESTION CAME UP AND DESCRIBED A SLIDE OVER THE THE REZONING THAT TOOK PLACE ON WHAT WE CALL BLOCK 11.
THIS IS THE LOT THAT THE COMMISSION LOOKED AT, PROBABLY JANUARY, FEBRUARY 2020.
AND WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS CASE AND THEN THE CASE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING? THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THAT THAT WAS A REZONING CASE.
THE REZONING ENTITLEMENT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED FOR THIS PROPERTY HERE.
THAT WAS A REZONING REQUEST FROM C3 TO A DT TO ALLOW THE LAYOUT SHOWN ON THE SLIDE.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
THIS SHOWS A HISTORY OF KIND OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS SINCE 2010 WHEN THE FIRST CONCEPT OR 2011, WHEN THE FIRST CONCEPT AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED THIS EVENING.
SO TWO BUILDINGS AND THEN TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS INCLUDE THE BROWNSTONES.
YOU'RE DOWN FROM 93 TO 91 FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE.
I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FLOOR AREA.
SLIGHTLY LESS FLOOR AREA IS INDICATED BY THE SLIDE ON THE SITE PLAN PROPOSAL.
THIS IS THE JUST SHOWS SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING.
THERE ARE TWO REQUESTS THAT WERE OUTLINED IN THE APPLICATION, ACTUALLY, A COUPLE OF ALSO TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS.
THE THE PROPOSAL SHOWS A PARK THAT'S TO THE EAST OF THE BUILDING TWO WHICH IS PART OF THE CONCEPT PLAN, AS A PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT, YOU'LL EVALUATE IT.
THE APPLICATION DOES MAKE A REQUEST THAT THE CITY ACCEPT THAT AS A FUTURE PARK, WHICH WOULD LIKE ANY PARK WOULD INCLUDE THE MAINTENANCE.
ALSO, THERE'S A REQUEST ON THE [INAUDIBLE] PARK OR WHAT WAS REFERRED TO AS OVAL PARK ABOUT TAKING THAT OVER AS A PARK.
AND I'LL LET THE APPLICANT EXPLAIN SOME OF THE REASONS BEHIND THAT.
BUT AS A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE THE RECOMMENDATION WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT THAT AS A CITY PARK, THAT'S ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL'S FOLLOWING THE PARK BOARD RECOMMENDATION. YOU DO NOT NEED TO WEIGH INTO THAT PART OF THE APPLICATION THIS EVENING.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE GROVE OR THAT PARK IN TERMS OF THE LAYOUT, THE TREES, HOW IT FUNCTIONS, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN COMMENT ON AND IF YOU WISH.
BUT IN TERMS OF MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY ACCEPT THAT AS A PARK, THAT'S CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE FOLLOWING THE PARK BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION.
ALSO ON A FURTHER SLIDE, THERE'S SOME PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS THAT ARE SHOWN THAT WE WILL QUICKLY COVER.
OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS LOOKED AT THOSE ARE GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE WORKED ON OFFLINE, SEPARATE FROM THE APPLICATION.
BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AND THAT IS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND COMMENT ON.
BUT JUST TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF IS LOOKING AT THAT AND HAS PROVIDED A COMMENT IN THE REVIEW, THIS IS A RENDERING THAT THE IS IN THE APPLICANT'S SLIDE BUT I WANTED TO START WITH THIS BECAUSE IT WAS A GOOD PERSPECTIVE KIND OF SHOWING THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDINGS.
WHEN WE GET INTO THE THESE ARE SOME MORE PERSPECTIVES THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED.
AND I'LL GO THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE THE APPLICANT WILL GO IN MUCH MORE DETAIL.
AND JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'LL BE BRIEF.
THIS IS THE UNDERGROUND OR THE BELOW GRADE PARKING.
THE ORDINANCE STATES THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE TWO PARKING SPACES FOR EACH RESIDENTIAL UNIT, SO 58 TIMES TWO IS 116.
THEY MEET THAT AND THEN THERE'S ONE VISITOR'S PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR EVERY TWO
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UNITS. SO 58 DIVIDED BY 2 29.IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE SITE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER OF PARKING ALONG PARK RIDGE BOULEVARD. I BELIEVE THERE'S MORE THAN 25 ALONG HERE.
THERE IS ADDITIONAL PARKING ALONG [INAUDIBLE] STREET.
SO THE SITE PLAN HAS SHOWN WHERE THAT PARKING WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THE SITE AND THEY BELIEVE THEY DO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S SOME OF THE MATERIALS LISTED ON HERE WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT PRIMARILY A BRICK PRODUCT THAT HAS SOME CAST STONE AROUND THE WINDOWS IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE BROWNSTONES TO THE SOUTH.
WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO THIS IF THE COMMISSION HAS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THE FLOOR PLAN OR LAYOUT. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE DETAILS WHICH ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE INITIAL CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED.
BUT THEY GO INTO SOME DETAILS ON THE LEGEND AND THEY PROVIDED SOME SOME VISUALS THAT CONVEY THE THE THE TYPE OF MATERIALS, THE TYPE OF AMENITIES, THE TYPE OF FURNITURE AND STRUCTURES THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE LANDSCAPE, ENVIRONMENT AND OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT. MENTIONED THE PEDESTRIAN AND THE CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS.
I'LL LET THE APPLICANT GO INTO DETAIL.
THIS IS PART OF THEIR PRESENTATION.
BUT AGAIN, THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF IS HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT, A COUPLE OF PHOTOS OF THE SITE, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.
HERE'S A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND THE THE RENDERINGS AND THE ELEVATIONS ON THE LEFT AND THEN YOUR 2013 OR YOUR GUIDING DOCUMENT ON THE RIGHT.
JUST GETTING A LITTLE TECHNICAL, THE REASON THIS IS COMING FORWARD NOW, YOU HAD THE ZONING IN PLACE, IF YOU GO TO THE DT DISTRICT IT SAYS A SITE PLAN MUST BE APPROVED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE UNDERLYING CONCEPT PLAN.
AND SO IN ORDER TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION, THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS IS TO GET A SITE PLAN APPROVED.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE APPLICANT'S HERE THIS EVENING IS SEEKING THAT SITE PLAN APPROVAL. AND THAT'S BASED ON YOUR DT DISTRICT IN THE SECTION INDICATED.
THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
I JUST WANT TO MAYBE CONFIRM A FEW THINGS JUST REALLY QUICKLY.
WE'LL SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THEN WE MAY ASK CITY ATTORNEY TO WEIGH IN.
SO JUST SO I MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND AGAIN THIS, THE ZONING WAS APPROVED, I GUESS MAYBE A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS AGO, 2011, ZONING WAS ADJUSTED IN 2013, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, REDUCED DENSITY. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'VE GOT A FAIRLY NARROW PURVIEW THIS EVENING IN TERMS OF EVALUATING THE SITE PLAN RELATIVE TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.
AND IT JUST CONFIRMING IT APPEARS, I GUESS, OUTSIDE OF THIS SPECIFIC APPLICATION, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL IN TOWN SQUARE THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
I GOT ALL THAT DOWN. THEM ANY OTHER MAYBE JUST SPECIFIC CITY STAFF QUESTIONS ON THIS APPLICATION RIGHT NOW.
OK, MAYBE I'LL ALLOW CITY ATTORNEY, IF IT'S OK, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, MAYBE JUST KIND OF FURTHER REFINING A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT KEN SAID IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY HERE TO TO DO THIS EVENING AND MAYBE SPECIFICALLY MAYBE WHAT WE'RE NOT HERE TO DO THIS EVENING. SO I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT.
SURE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
SO AS MENTIONED TONIGHT, THE EXERCISE IS DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THE SITE PLAN IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN.
SO WHAT THAT DOES NOT ENTAIL IS LOOKING AT THE ZONING THAT IS AS MENTIONED, THE ENTITLEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN GRANTED.
SO WHAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IS THE USES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN EITHER GRANTING OR TAKING AWAY ANY USES.
THOSE ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
SO THAT IS NOT FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS BOARD TONIGHT.
AND WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEING PRESENTED AND COMPARING THAT WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED IN 2013 AND DETERMINING DOES WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TODAY COMPLY WITH WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.
SO MR. BAKER PRESENTED YOU WITH WHAT THAT PRIOR SITE PLAN WAS, WHAT THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS WITH THE THREE BUILDINGS AND THE CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS.
AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TODAY WITH TWO BUILDINGS AND DETERMINING DO WE THINK THOSE THAT NEW SITE PLAN COMPLIES.
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SO THAT IS THE SOLE FOCUS THIS EVENING.OK, I GUESS WITH THAT WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON AND CALL UP THE APPLICANT FOR HIS, I'M SURE, A THOROUGH PRESENTATION AS WE'VE SEEN A FEW OF THESE IN THE PAST.
SO GOOD CALL MR. BLISS TO THE PODIUM.
FIFTEEN SLIDES ISN'T TOO BAD, SO I THINK.
DIRECTOR BAKER ALSO DID A GREAT JOB IN HIS PRESENTATION.
SO I'LL REALLY TOUCH ON THE AND LET YOU GO AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO BRAG ABOUT THAT.
ABSOLUTELY. FRANK BLISS, I LIVE AT 61 SHANNON COURT IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.
UNFORTUNATELY, DURING SNOWMAGEDDON, MY HOUSE FLOODED.
SO I'M CURRENTLY LIVING AT UNIT 408 PARKVIEW RIGHT DOWN THE STREET HERE IN TOWN SQUARE AND LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF LIVING IN PARKVIEW.
QUICK BACKGROUND TO WHAT KEN JUST SHARED WITH YOU.
IN 2013, WHEN WE CAME BACK AND WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS FROM TEN TO THREE, WE TOOK ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND MOVED IT ACROSS THE STREET TO WHAT'S NOW THE PARKVIEW RESIDENCES.
ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID THAT WAS WE WANTED TO TEST THE WATERS TO SEE JUST HOW HIGH WE COULD TAKE THIS RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM IN TOWN SQUARE.
PARKVIEW IS A VERY EXPENSIVE BUILDING.
BUT WITH SALES NOW DOCUMENTED AT SIX HUNDRED OVER SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT, AN AVERAGE SALE PRICE IN THAT BUILDING OVER A MILLION AND A HALF.
WE HAVE SHOWN THAT, IN FACT, THERE IS A MARKET FOR THAT PRODUCT IN TOWN SQUARE.
WE'VE LEARNED FROM THAT IN WHAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU TONIGHT.
IN THE THREE BUILDING PLAN THAT WE HAD BACK IN 2013, WE WERE LOOKING AT A PRODUCT THAT I WOULD SAY WOULD BE A VERY NICE PRODUCT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A STEP DOWN FROM WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS TWO BUILDING PLAN SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPAND UPON WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM PARKVIEW AND CONTINUE TO ADD THE TOWN SQUARE.
I'LL FOCUS ON THE HIGHLIGHTS, FEWER UNITS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
I'LL SHOW YOU A PLAN TO HOW THE ELEVATORS WORK.
THESE ARE GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS, AS YOU'LL SEE FROM THE RENDERINGS.
DAVID M. SCHWARZ ARCHITECTS IS THE ARCHITECT AGAIN, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY NOT KNOW DAVID AND HIS TEAM, INCLUDING MICHAEL SCHWARTZ, NO RELATION HAVE BEEN THE MASTER PLAN ARCHITECTS FOR TOWN SQUARE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
THEY'RE ALSO THE PRINCIPAL DESIGN ARCHITECT AND INCLUDING THIS BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN TONIGHT, WHICH THEY DESIGNED BOTH EXTERIOR AND MUCH OF THE INTERIOR.
A BIG CHANGE THAT WE MADE TO THIS PLAN, DIFFERENT TO 2013 IS ON THE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE AND TO THE RIGHT IN THE BACKGROUND.
WE STEPPED IT DOWN FROM FOUR STORIES TO THREE STORIES.
THE REASON WE DID THAT WAS WE REALLY WANTED TO EMULATE THE THREE STORY RHYTHM ACROSS THE STREET AND NOT BRING A FULL FOUR STORY BUILDING DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM A SERIES OF THREE STORY BROWNSTONES. THE OTHER THING THAT YOU'LL NOTICE FROM THE SITE PLAN IN THE TWO BUILDINGS, THE TWO BUILDINGS ARE SQUARED UP.
WHEN YOU GO TO THE 2013 PLAN BELOW, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TWO BUILDINGS IN THE MIDDLE HAVE AN ANGLE TO THEM. THE REASON FOR THAT, IN 2013, WE WERE TALKING WITH NORDSTROM AND NEIMAN MARCUS AND THEY WANTED TO COME INTO TOWN SQUARE AT THE TIME AND DO ANCHOR DEPARTMENT STORES ON EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE HIGHWAY 114 FRONTAGE.
THE WORLD CHANGED RIGHT ABOUT THEN.
DEPARTMENT STORES DECIDED TO FOCUS ON ONLINE AND FLAGSHIP.
THEY GOT AWAY FROM THEIR OLD TRADITIONAL DEPARTMENT STORES.
AND AS THE DEPARTMENT STORES LEFT THE PLAN TO REALIGN CENTRAL AVENUE THROUGH BUILDINGS A AND B IN THE BOTTOM DRAWING WENT INTO THE BIN.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO STRAIGHTEN THOSE BUILDINGS UP.
THE THIRD BUILDING BUILDING C THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM.
IT TOOK US. WHAT DID YOU SAY THEN? IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE THIS WAS FIRST APPROVED.
IT'S TAKEN ABOUT 10 YEARS FOR US TO FINISH THE ENGINEERING, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REALLY SHOEHORN THIS BUILDING IN.
WE HAD TO GIVE UP A FEW UNITS TO GET THERE.
BUT THESE TWO BUILDINGS NOW, I THINK COMPLEMENT THE SITE.
THEY COMPLEMENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND TO US, THIS WILL BE A BETTER PLAN FOR THE GARDEN DISTRICT.
WE INCLUDED A RENDERING OF THE BUILDING.
AS YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE EAST.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNDERSTAND THIS BUILDING.
AND I ALSO LIKE THIS PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE PARKVIEW IN THE BACKGROUND.
WHEN WE STARTED THE GARDEN DISTRICT, THE END OF THE STREET WOULD HAVE LOOKED INTO THE SIDE OF A PARKING GARAGE.
THAT'S WHAT WAS THERE. MANY OF YOU, I'M SURE, WILL REMEMBER WHEN THE PARKING GARAGE SAT THERE AND WHAT WE CALL BLOCK FOUR BY GETTING THE APPROVAL TO BUILD PARKVIEW, WE WERE ABLE
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TO PUT A FACE ON THAT GARAGE.AND NOW WITH THESE TWO BUILDINGS IN PLACE NOW, YOU REALLY GET A SENSE OF HOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL FEEL.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WHEN WE TOOK THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND DELIVERED IT TO THE RENDERER, WHO'S VERY GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES, BUT HE IS ALSO VERY LITERAL.
HE PLUGGED THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND YOU COULDN'T SEE THE BUILDING.
AND THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE ONCE THESE TREES ARE MATURE AND YOU'RE SITTING AT THE INTERSECTION OF [INAUDIBLE] STREET AND PARK RIDGE, IT'S YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE MUCH OF THIS BUILDING BECAUSE THE TERM THE GROW FOR THAT PARK IS BECAUSE IT'S PAYING HOMAGE TO THE OAK TREES THAT USED TO BE ON THIS PART OF THE SITE.
AND AS THOSE OAK TREES REACH MATURITY, THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO BE PRETTY WELL COVERED UP. BUT FOR THE TIME THAT YOU CAN SEE IT, WE THINK IT'LL LOOK PRETTY NICE.
KEN DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THE GROVE, WHICH IS PUBLIC SPACE, THE TERRACE THAT YOU SEE HERE, RIGHT ABOUT THERE.
THE TERRACE IS THE TOP OF THE GARAGE THAT IS UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING AND BECOMES AN AMENITY DECK WITH A SERIES OF OUTDOOR LIVING ROOMS FOR RESIDENTS IN BOTH OF THESE TWO BUILDINGS. THIS IS ACTUALLY PRIVATE SPACE FOR THESE BUILDINGS, NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT IT'LL BE READILY VISIBLE AND THERE WILL BE WALK OUT ACCESS FROM THE TERRACE DOWN TO STEBBINS PARK. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO WEIGH IN ON, BUT WE HAVE MADE THE REQUEST, STEBBINS PARK IS THE ONLY PARK TO DATE THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED IN SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE THAT IS NOT A CITY PARK.
THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS FOR, I THINK POLITICALLY WHY IT IS NOT A CITY PARK.
BUT THE REALITY IS THE PUBLIC USES IT AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
IF YOU HAVEN'T WALKED IT RECENTLY, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IT.
THE COLORS, THE SMELLS FROM THE PLANT MATERIAL, SOME OF WHICH IS REGENERATING AFTER THE FREEZE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF YUCCAS THAT HAVE DECIDED THEY'RE ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD, THAT NOW'S WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO FLOWER. AND IT'S PRETTY STUNNING TO WATCH THAT PLAY OUT.
BUT THE NOTION OF THIS PARK FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR TOWN SQUARE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN HOMAGE TO A BOTANICAL GARDEN.
BRIAN STEBBINS, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT KNEW BRIAN HAD A LANDSCAPE DESIGN BACKGROUND, THERE ARE OVER 80 NATIVE TEXAS SPECIES IN THIS PARK.
AND IT'S IT'S REALLY A WONDERLAND.
WE'VE SEEN TEACHING EXERCISES GOING ON IN HERE.
WE'VE ALSO SEEN THE GARDENING CLUBS COME IN AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS AND WHAT THAT IS. BUT THIS IS TRULY A PUBLIC PARK.
BUT THE RESIDENTS PRIVATELY IN THE GARDEN DISTRICT ARE PAYING 100 PERCENT OF ITS COST.
AND EVEN IF THE CITY DIDN'T TAKE IT ON AS A PUBLIC PARK, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY AT LEAST PARTNER WITH US TO HELP COVER SOME OF THAT COST SINCE WE ARE ENTERTAINING THE PUBLIC ON A REGULAR BASIS, INCLUDING THE FIREWORKS.
THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THESE SEMIPRIVATE ELEVATORS WORK.
SO YOU'VE GOT AN ELEVATOR THAT COMES UP, DOORS OPENING LEFT AND RIGHT, UNITS 2 C ON THE TOP IN THIS PLAN WILL SHARE ONE SMALL ELEVATOR LOBBY UNITS 2E AND 2F ON THE BOTTOM, WILL SHARE ANOTHER SMALL ELEVATOR LOBBY.
THE GRAY THAT YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE IS PURELY A SERVICE CORRIDOR.
IT'S HOW THE RESIDENTS WILL GET ACCESS TO THEIR STORAGE UNITS, HOW THEY WILL GET ACCESS TO THEIR TRASH CHUTES, WHICH I'M ENJOYING USING MY TRASH CHUTE IN PARKVIEW TOO.
YOU JUST ZIP THE THING UP AND POP IT DOWN THE CHUTE AND IT'S GONE.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NOT THE USUAL CORRIDOR TRAFFIC THAT YOU GET IN A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, 2D AND 2E WILL GO TO THE MIDDLE, DROP THEIR TRASH, CHECK THEIR STORAGE AND GO BACK. BUT YOU WON'T HAVE THIS WASH OF TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH.
SO IT SETS UP A VERY NICE, QUIET, PRIVATE ENVIRONMENT.
WHAT IT ALSO DOES FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WE LEARNED WITHOUT THE SERVICE CORRIDOR, IT WAS GOING TO TAKE SIX FIREFIGHTERS TO RESPOND TO A FIRE IN A BUILDING LIKE THIS WITH THIS SERVICE CORRIDOR THAT HAS FIRE DOORS THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY OPEN IN THE EVENT OF A FIRE THEY CAN SERVICE THIS BUILDING WITH JUST TWO.
SO THIS IS A BIG ENHANCEMENT FROM THEIR STANDPOINT.
THIS GIVES YOU JUST SOME INSPIRATIONAL IMAGES TO WHAT I EARLIER REFERRED TO AS OUTDOOR LIVING ROOMS, THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE GARDEN DISTRICT IS TO CREATE A SERIES OF PLACES WHERE PEOPLE NATURALLY GO, WHETHER IT'S WALKING DOG, SITTING, TALKING, EATING THEIR LUNCH.
NOW THAT I'M LIVING IN PARKVIEW AND WALKING MY DOG HERE ON A REGULAR BASIS, I REALLY SEE HOW IT WORKS. IT'S PRETTY COOL.
MY MY WIFE'S TRYING TO TALK ME INTO BUYING THE PARKVIEW CONDO AND SELLING OUR OTHER HOUSE OVER TAMARON.
I LOVE THEM BOTH, BUT THIS IS A SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
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THE ONE COMMENT CARD I DID SEE WAS ABOUT THE GARAGE ENTRY, AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN NOT CLEAR FROM THE SITE PLAN, BUT THE GARAGE ENTRY ON THIS PLAN IS OFF OF PARKRIDGE UP HERE.SO ALL THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE GARAGE AND THERE'S NOT MUCH, BY THE WAY, MOXIES IS GENERATING MORE TRAFFIC THAN PARKVIEW, EVEN THOUGH PARKVIEW IS ABOUT 10 TIMES MORE THAN 10 TIMES THE SIZE OF THE TYPICAL RESIDENTS IN BUILDINGS LIKE THIS TRAVEL A LOT.
MANY OF THEM HAVE SECOND AND THIRD HOMES.
THEY MAY BE HERE SIX TO NINE MONTHS A YEAR, BUT THE TRAFFIC FROM BUILDINGS LIKE PARKVIEW IS ACTUALLY REALLY, REALLY QUIET.
WHAT WE HAVE UP TOP IS THE WHAT WE CALL THE UBER DROP OFF.
SO IF YOU HAVE GUESTS ARRIVING AND THEY'RE DROPPING SOMEBODY OFF, IF YOU HAVE UBEREATS OR GRUBHUB OR SOMEBODY DROPPING FOOD OFF, THIS IS WHERE THEY WILL COME AND DO THEIR DROPS AND THEN THEY WILL CIRCULATE BACK OUT AGAIN.
JUST JUDGING BY PARKVIEW, THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC WE GET FROM THESE SORTS OF USES. THE GARAGE IS UNDERGROUND.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN ONE OF THE PERSPECTIVES WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I CAN PROBABLY SHOW YOU BEST FROM A RENDERING.
SO IN THIS RENDERING, YOU SEE THE BASE OF THE BUILDING HERE, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE GARAGE, AS YOU MOVE UP IN ELEVATION, THE GARAGE DISAPPEARS.
AS YOU GET ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE TO THE CORNER OF PARK RIDGE AND CENTRAL OF THE GARAGE WILL BE FULLY OUT OF THE GROUND.
TO PUT THIS IN CIVIL ENGINEERING TERMS, THIS INTERSECTION RIGHT HERE IS SITTING AT A MEAN ELEVATION OF ABOUT SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
THE TOP OF THE PARK HERE IS AT SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO.
SO WE HAVE 17 FEET OF [INAUDIBLE] GOING THROUGH THIS SITE.
WE FOUND AN IDEAL SPOT AROUND SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO FEET TO PUT THE DRIVEWAY INTO THE GARAGE. AND SO THAT HEIGHT WE WILL CARRY THE GRADE UP TO THAT FLOOR.
AND THEN AS YOU MOVE, AS YOU MOVE EAST, THE GARAGE, AS THE GRADE CLIMBS, THE GARAGE BECOMES LESS AND LESS AND LESS.
BUT WHERE YOU DO SEE THE GARAGE, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IT'S STILL MASONRY.
IT'S GOT THESE WROUGHT IRON GRILLS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID AT PARKVIEW.
AND THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS NOT TO HAVE ANYBODY LOOKING AT A GARAGE OR HAVE A GARAGE ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE A GARAGE, BUT HAVE THE GARAGE LOOK LIKE THE REST OF THE BUILDING.
ALL RIGHT. CATCHING UP, KEN MENTIONED WHAT WE WANT TO DO ON CENTRAL.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK I REALLY UNDERSTOOD JUST HOW FAST TRAFFIC GOES ON CENTRAL TILL I TOOK MY DOG OUT FOR A WALK AT 6:30 IN THE MORNING AND SAW SOMEBODY GOING 50 PLUS MILES AN HOUR DOWN CENTRAL, CLEARLY IN A HURRY.
AND I HOPE THEY GOT WHERE THEY WANT TO GO TO.
BUT AS FAR BACK AS BOB PRICE, IN 2011, WHEN BOB WAS THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED AT SOME POINT FOR CROSSWALKS AND STOP SIGNS AT THE INTERSECTION.
SO WE WERE PROPOSING TO DO THAT.
WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK MEANDER AWAY FROM THE BUILDING.
AND IF IT DOESN'T, THAT'S FINE.
THE SIDEWALK GOES RIGHT BY THE GARAGE AT PARKVIEW AND IT WORKS GREAT.
BUT THE REASON FOR THE MEANDER HERE IS WE ACTUALLY ARE TRYING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS VIEW CORRIDOR COMING DOWN FEDERAL WAY.
WE SEE AN ABILITY TO CREATE A VIEW THAT YOU CAN SEE REALLY ALL THE WAY FROM COMING OFF OF CARROLL AND COMING DOWN FEDERAL WAY TO THE GRAND AVENUE DISTRICT AND THE BIG BOWL THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. AS YOU SEE INTO THE DISTANCE, WE WANT SOMETHING HERE AT THE TERMINUS THAT CREATES A LANDSCAPE OPPORTUNITY AND ALSO HAS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT FITS IN TO THE PUBLIC ART REALM.
SO WE WE ACTUALLY FOUND IN SANTA FE AN ARTIST THAT DOES WIND SCULPTURES. AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THESE KINETIC WIND SCULPTURES.
THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES OF THEM UP IN LAKESIDE AND FLOWER MOUND, BUT WE'RE PROPOSING TO INSTALL SOME HERE AND ALSO HERE.
WE'VE GOT ONE AT OUR HOME IN TIMARON JUST LOVE WATCHING THAT THING SPIN.
IT'S JUST CRAZY HOW MUCH FUN IT IS TO WATCH WIND MOVE METAL AROUND.
BUT ALL OF THIS IS REALLY TO HELP CONNECTIVITY, TO HELP WALKABILITY, TO ENHANCE SAFETY AND JUST CONTINUE TO MAKE IT A MORE PLEASANT ENVIRONMENT.
KEN SHOWED THE BLOCK 11 APPLICATION, WHICH ALL OF YOU KNOW, DID NOT GO ANYWHERE, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE HERE REALLY IS ABOUT THESE THINGS HERE WE ARE TRYING TO HELP BUILD SOUTHLAKE STRONGER, MAKE THE DOWNTOWN STRONGER.
AND ALONG THE WAY, IF WE DO THIS RIGHT, WE HELP THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
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WE'VE GOT ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY PEOPLE LIVING HERE NOW.AND IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY TO GET ZONING FOR THE 111 UNITS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ENTITLED FOR, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE THESE.
THOSE EIGHTY SIX HOMES HAVE DROPPED HAVE BECOME THE HOMES FOR MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE FROM SOUTHLAKE AND WOULD HAVE LEFT AND STAYED BECAUSE THEY FOUND A PLACE THAT SUITED THEM.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO COLLEYVILLE.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO FORT WORTH.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO DALLAS.
THEY STAYED RIGHT HERE. AND THAT'S THAT FOR ME IS THE MOST GRATIFYING OF ALL THE THINGS WE'VE DONE, FAMILY SITUATIONS.
WE DO HAVE PARENTS OF SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS LIVING HERE.
WE'VE GOT SOME DIVORCEES LIVING HERE.
THERE ARE SOME WHO USE THE AIRPORT AND TRAVEL, HAVEN'T HAD AS MANY OF THE SINGLE INCOME, NO KIDS. AND BUT WE DO HAVE SOME DOUBLE INCOME, NO KIDS.
AND I THINK AS WE GET MORE AND MORE VARIED PRODUCT ON THE GROUND, WE'LL SEE MORE OF THOSE SHOW UP. YOU KNOW, BRIAN SAID A LONG TIME AGO, THE BEST DOWNTOWNS HAVE PEOPLE LIVING IN THEM. AND THAT'S TRUE.
BUT IT'S TRUE FOR FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.
IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY OF SOUTHLAKE TO HAVE THIS THIS HOUSING TYPE.
BUT IT'S INCREDIBLY GOOD ECONOMICALLY.
THE THIS PROJECT WOULD BE WELL OVER 60 MILLION.
THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT I THINK IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE QUITE A BIT MORE THAN THAT. BUT AS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE, 60 MILLION IS GOING TO GENERATE OVER SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO GO TO THE CARROLL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND THAT'S EXEMPT FROM ROBIN HOOD, WHICH CRAIG KNOWS.
IF THIS PLAN IS APPROVED, WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER TWO HUNDRED MILLION IN VALUE ON TOWN SQUARE, SITTING ON A LITTLE LESS THAN 15 ACRES.
AND THAT 15 ACRES INCLUDES STREET SIDEWALKS AND PARKS.
SO IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHERE THE BUILDINGS SIT, IT'S QUITE A BIT LESS THAN THAT, THAT TWO HUNDRED MILLION, OVER 13 MILLION PER ACRE IS THE HIGHEST YIELDING REAL ESTATE I'M AWARE OF IN SOUTHLAKE.
AND SO FOR A RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT THAT HAS GENERATED SUCH INTEREST OVER THE YEARS, I THINK IT'S REALLY GRATIFYING TO SEE THAT NOT ONLY DID IT WORK, BUT IT IS HELPING OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. IT IS HELPING OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS NEW PROJECT IS GOING TO RAISE THE BAR AGAIN.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT GOING TO THE BOTTOM SLIDE.
WHEN WE GET IF WE GET THIS DONE THE WAY WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT, WE'RE LOOKING AT GENERATING TAX REVENUES.
I THINK IT'S GOING BE CLOSER TO THREE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO CISD.
8 HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO THE CITY.
AND THAT DOES NOT COUNT THE COLLATERAL IMPACTS OF WHAT OUR RESIDENTS IN TOWN SQUARE DO FOR OUR RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS, FOR OUR RESTAURANTS, FOR OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS.
ONCE YOU'RE HERE, WHY DRIVE AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE IF YOU CAN MAKE A RELATIONSHIP AND AND STAY HERE? SO THIS IS FOR US WHAT REALLY MAKES A DOWNTOWN THRIVE.
ARE THERE ENOUGH PEOPLE LIVING HERE TO MAKE THE RETAILERS SUCCESSFUL? RETAILERS LIKE APPLE NO.
BUT DOES IT HELP OUR RESTAURANTS, ESPECIALLY OUR LOCAL RESTAURANTS? DOES IT HELP OUR LOCAL RETAILERS? YOU BET IT DOES. AND THEY'LL TELL YOU IT DOES.
SO I HOPE YOU LIKE IT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY HAD A PRETTY THOROUGH PRESENTATION BETWEEN BOTH YOU AND CITY STAFF, SO THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.
I JUST HAD ONE QUICK KIND OF MORE JUST A GEE WHIZ QUESTION JUST IS THE INTENTION TO BREAK GROUND ON ALL OF IT AT ONCE? YES. I GUESS ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE NATURE OF THE GARAGE IS WOULD MAKE IT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK GROUND ON ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. OK.
I'M JUST CURIOUS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
ONE QUICK ONE. FRANK, DO WE HAVE IN THIS, DIRECTOR BAKER, THE COMPARISON WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THEN THE SITE PLAN, IS THAT IN HERE? CAN WE PULL THAT UP? YEAH. YOU WANT TO PULL THAT UP? YEAH, THAT ONE, THANK YOU.
AT THE BEGINNING, FRANK, YOU KIND OF WENT THROUGH WHAT YOU HAD LEARNED AND SO FORTH ABOUT THE BUILDINGS. CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE ME THE BROAD OVERVIEW OF THAT AGAIN, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS KIND OF WALK ME THROUGH WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO DESCRIBE AS IT RELATES TO THE THREE VERSUS TWO BUILDINGS IN PARKVIEW AND THAT KIND OF THING? YEAH. SO THE THE THREE BUILDING PLAN, WHICH THE IMAGE IS THERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT,
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ANYBODY IN THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN BUILD A FOUR OR A FIVE STORY BUILDING WITH STICK.AND IF YOU'RE DOING A CONCRETE GARAGE, A PODIUM GARAGE UNDERNEATH, THEN YOU CAN BUILD UP.
THERE ARE SOME GREAT EXAMPLES AROUND THE COUNTRY OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE BUILT WITH WOOD FRAMES. AND YOU CAN BUILD THEM WITH WOOD FRAMES, WITH MAYBE SOME STRUCTURAL STEEL PARKVIEW, WHICH ISN'T ON THIS IMAGE IS WHAT'S CALLED A TYPE 1A BUILDING ALL CONCRETE.
IF YOU'VE BEEN TO OLD PARKLAND AND SEE WHAT HARLAN CROW DID, THAT'S ACTUALLY A TYPE TWO BUILDING WITH STEEL AND CONCRETE.
GORGEOUS. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE MOST ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS IN THE COUNTRY THAT'S BEEN BUILT RIGHT IN OUR OWN BACKYARD.
BUILDING TO THAT LEVEL IN THE THREE BUILDING PLAN WAS JUST NOT POSSIBLE.
YOU WERE CARRYING TOO MUCH TOO MUCH BAGGAGE WITH ALL THE INS AND OUTS OF THREE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. AND THEN THE PARKING FOR BUILDING C WAS GETTING OUT OF THE GROUND QUITE A BIT.
AND ALTHOUGH YOU CAN MAKE THAT LOOK NICE, AS WE DID AT PARKVIEW, IT WAS JUST MUCH MORE INTRUSIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WHEN WE WENT TO THE TWO BUILDING PLAN AND WE WERE AND I HOPE IT WASN'T LOST ON EVERYBODY, WE HAD APPROVAL FOR ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY UNITS AND WE CAME BACK OF OUR OWN VOLITION AND REDUCED IT.
WE'RE COMING BACK AGAIN AND WE'RE REDUCING IT.
IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW MANY UNITS YOU GET.
IT'S ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE YOU CREATE.
AND BUT IT IS ULTIMATELY ABOUT THE ABILITY TO PENCIL IT AT THE END OF THE DAY AND MAKE A PROFIT. BUT THOSE TWO THINGS, THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE EXPERIENCE AND THE ABILITY TO GENERATE A PROFIT, GO HAND IN HAND.
WELL, WE COULD MAKE A PROFIT ON THE PLAN IN THE LOWER RIGHT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AT THE SAME LEVEL OF PRODUCT AS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH PARKVIEW, AND WE'VE NOW THAT WE SEE THAT THAT MARKETS THERE.
WE WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD STEP IT UP AND ACTUALLY DO TYPE 1 OR TYPE 2 CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO IN THE UPPER LEFT, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING WITH THESE TWO BUILDINGS ARE BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE BUILT TO THAT HIGHER LEVEL OF QUALITY, ALBEIT WE HAVE TO GIVE UP A FEW UNITS.
THE AVERAGE SIZE IS STILL PRETTY CONSISTENT, A LITTLE OVER TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT DROVE US IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND THE OTHER, FRANK, I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
NUMBER ONE, AS I LOOK AT THIS, AND THIS IS PROBABLY UNRELATED TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT I THINK IT'S A QUESTION WE PROBABLY ALL HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT.
YOU'VE GOT BALCONY'S ON THE OUTSIDE OF THAT BUILDING.
ARE THERE COVENANTS WITHIN THE HOA THAT ARE GOING TO LIMIT WHAT OR RESTRICT THE ENFORCEMENT OF WHAT GOES ON THOSE BALCONIES? OR HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU VIEW THAT? YEAH, SAME WITH PARKVIEW.
PARKVIEWS GOT I MEAN, EVERY UNIT'S GOT BALCONIES AND TERRACES, SOME OF WHICH ARE QUITE LARGE. SO THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS.
YOU CAN'T HANG YOUR WASH OVER YOUR BALCONY.
THERE'S NO BARBECUES ON THE BALCONY.
SO, YEAH, YOU HAVE TO MANAGE THAT.
OK. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD UNDERSTOOD FROM PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION EARLIER THAT PARKING REQUIREMENTS YOU'VE MET WITH YOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN IN THE GARAGE, THAT YOU HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR ONE PER TWO RESIDENTS, FOR VISITORS PARK.
THAT'S ALL STREET PARKING THEN THAT'S ALL STREET PARKING.
IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN IN TERMS OF MOVING VISITOR PARKING TO THE STREET? ONLY BECAUSE IF THERE'S ONE COMMENT, I HEAR AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE RESIDENCES WITHIN TOWN SQUARE. IT RELATES TO THE STREET PARKING THAT GOES ON AND THE CONFLICTS THAT CREATES FROM BOTH A SAFETY AND A IN A THOROUGHFARE STANDPOINT.
WELL, I HAVE NOT HEARD THE SAFETY ISSUES WITH PARKING ON THE STREET, BUT NO, FROM THE BROWNSTONES CLEAR BACK TO 2003, THE GUEST PARKING WAS ON THE STREET.
THE RESIDENT PARKING WAS IN THE GARAGES.
WE DID GO BACK AS PART OF THIS SITE PLAN EXERCISE AND RECOUNT ALL THE PARKING THROUGHOUT THE GARDEN DISTRICT. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WERE IN 2013, IN PART BECAUSE WE WERE APPROVED FOR THIRTY THREE BROWNSTONES.
BUT THROUGH AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CUSTOM LOTS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY TURNED OUT TO BE A IT'S A VERY NICHE PROGRAM, BUT IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
THE NUMBER OF POTENTIAL HOMES HAS DROPPED TO 30.
SO WE'VE GIVEN UP THREE HOMES AS SOME OF THE HOMES GOT LARGER.
AND I'M LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF DROPPING ANOTHER ONE AND MAYBE ANOTHER TWO AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMBINE SOME LOTS AND CREATE SOME CUSTOM HOMES.
BUT WITH THOSE HOMES, YOU JUST DON'T GET A TON OF PARKING.
AND WHEN YOU DO, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO TOWN SQUARE LIKE LET'S SAY I'M GOING TO [INAUDIBLE] STREET AND I'M GOING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH SOMEBODY OR WE'RE JUST GOING TO
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HANG OUT IN THE PARK. WELL, I MAY NOT EVEN PARK ON THIS STREET.I MAY BE PARKING SOMEWHERE ELSE IN TOWN SQUARE BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER THINGS TO DO.
SO WE GET A LOT OF WALKING TRAFFIC.
IN FACT, I MET A WOMAN IN THE PARK THIS MORNING WHO WAS VISITING A FRIEND ACROSS THE STREET WHERE HER CAR WASN'T THERE.
HER CAR WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND SHE WALKED OVER THERE BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK AND HER FRIEND LIVES THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY TOWN SQUARE WORKS.
BUT TO ME, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN TOWN SQUARE HAVE BEEN THE SAFEST PART OF TOWN SQUARE THAT WE'VE DONE BECAUSE TRAFFIC, GOOD LORD, WATCHING PEOPLE TRY TO PARALLEL PARK AT APPLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? FRANK, REAL QUICK ON PARKVIEW, WHAT DID YOU SAY SO FAR THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE AND PER SQUARE FOOT. SO SINCE 2019, THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE HAS BEEN OVER ONE AND A HALF MILLION.
AND THE ON A PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT, IT'S IT'S NORTH OF 600 A FOOT, BUT NOT ALL THE WAY TO SEVEN HUNDRED A FOOT. BUT WE'VE HAD SALES OVER SEVEN HUNDRED A FOOT AND ANYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING IN JANUARY OF 2019 IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN JANUARY OF 2021.
BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW THE DEMAND AND I JUST HEARD ANOTHER ONE ON [INAUDIBLE] STREET, SOMEBODY GOT A KNOCK ON THEIR DOOR AND THIS PERSON HAD BEEN KNOCKING ON A LOT OF DOORS.
AND WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU TO SELL YOUR HOUSE.
AND THEY FINALLY FOUND THE PERSON TO GO I'M IN.
SOME OF THE PRICING IS GETTING PRETTY NUTTY.
YEAH, OK. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE FOR NOW.
AND THIS WAS PRETTY THOROUGH, SO I'M NOT SURE WE'LL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
IF WE DO, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP.
YOU KNOW HOW THIS WORKS, BUT THANK YOU.
I THINK THIS WAS PRETTY THOROUGH.
OK. ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING DOES CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M ABOUT TO OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, SIMILAR TO ALL OF OUR MEETINGS AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AS WELL, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THE WAY IT WORKS, I MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THE MICROPHONE IS UP HERE KIND OF ON, I GUESS, MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHERE YOU WILL COME UP TO SPEAK.
WE ASK THAT YOU, PLEASE TRY TO KEEP IT TO TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS IN CONSIDERATION OF THE OTHERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK AND THE OTHER ITEMS WE GOT ON OUR AGENDA FOR LATER THIS EVENING AND MS. LYDIA HERE, WILL BE KEEPING A LITTLE TIMER, YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE PODIUM HERE, WHICH KIND OF GOES FROM GREEN TO YELLOW TO RED JUST TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW HOW YOU'RE DOING.
TYPICALLY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET YOUR FEEDBACK IN WITHIN THREE MINUTES.
SO WE'D ASK FOR YOU TO PLEASE ABIDE BY THAT.
AND AGAIN, I GUESS, AS YOU'VE HEARD, OBVIOUSLY IT'S YOUR THREE MINUTES.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND CITY ATTORNEY AND OTHERS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF JUST TRYING TO DESCRIBE WHAT SPECIFIC ITEM THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY HERE TO DELIBERATE THIS EVENING. SO WITH THAT, I GUESS I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, START CALLING COMMENT CARDS.
FIRST UP, JOHNNY AND LAURA CAMPANELLO.
350 CENTRAL AVENUE SUITE 309 PARDON ME, WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AND IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS ISSUE. SO PLEASE, AS YOU COME UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD JUST IN CASE I DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT.
I AM JOHNNY CAMPANELLO, LIVE AT 350 CENTRAL AVENUE, LIVE IN PARKVIEW AND VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF THESE MEETINGS WHERE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE NEGATIVE FLOW THAT GOES AROUND THESE KIND OF PROJECTS.
AND I WAS EARLY ON WITH PARKVIEW AND I SAT IN THESE MEETINGS AND AND I HEARD EVERY STORY ABOUT HOW WHY WE SHOULDN'T BE HERE.
BUT I AM A LONGTIME SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT.
I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1998, LIVED IN A HOUSE AND FOR MANY YEARS, AND OUR KIDS MOVED AND WE WERE READY TO DO TRANSITION.
AND SO WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE IN THE PARKVIEW RESIDENCE.
AND SO NOW TODAY WE BASICALLY LIVE IN HALF THE HOUSE, BUT PAY TWICE THE TAX.
AND SO THERE'S ALL THIS DEBATE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC AND HOW MUCH SPACE WE CONSUME AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND TO BE TRUTHFUL, WE DON'T USE A LOT OF SPACE.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T USE MY CAR THAT MUCH.
WE KNOW EVERYBODY. WE EAT AT ALL THE RESTAURANTS.
WE DO ALL THE THINGS THAT I THINK THE VISION OF TOWN SQUARE WAS ORIGINALLY I HAD THE THE PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH PETER COOPER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND HE WAS OUT ON MY BALCONY AND HE JUST YOU COULD SEE THE SMILE ON THIS MAN'S FACE ABOUT LOOKING OUT OVER PARKVIEW
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ABOUT WHAT'S BEING CREATED.AND I JUST THINK WE HAVE THIS CROWN JEWEL AND FRANK AND HIS TEAM HAVE JUST HAVE DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB FOR THIS CITY.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE DEBATE.
I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY DO.
BUT LET ME TELL YOU, FRANK AND HIS TEAM'S BEEN HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING.
AND I THINK ABOUT PARK VILLAGE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH THE WATER FOUNTAIN THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BELLAGIO.
AND I BET YOU WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT DEVELOPER, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER, IS OR WHO HE OR SHE WAS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SOLD AND SOLD AGAIN.
AND I THINK THEY DESERVE CREDIT FOR BEING HERE.
THEY'VE BEEN ON THE GROUND IN SOUTHLAKE DOING THEIR THING HERE IN TOWN SQUARE.
AND NOW WE HAVE WHAT IS A CROWN JEWEL NOT JUST IN OUR CITY, BUT KNOWN NATIONALLY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.
I'M PROUD OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
I THINK THAT THIS PROJECT, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS DOWN TO TWO, GIVES US MORE PARK SPACE. WE HAVE A DOG.
WE WALK TOBY ALL OVER TOWN SQUARE.
AND YEAH, WE [INAUDIBLE] HERE.
AND I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
AND I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY OPINION ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU. OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT. NOW GO AHEAD AND CALL UP LISA ALEXANDER, WHO I BELIEVE 1562 MAIN STREET, OR I GUESS I'M JUST READING A COMMENT CARD.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME OUT AND SPEAK IF YOU DON'T WANT, BUT CERTAINLY NOTING SHE'S IN SUPPORT. SO. OK, GO AHEAD.
NAME AND ADDRESS. SORRY. THANK YOU.
1562 MAIN STREET AND WE'VE BEEN HERE IN SOUTHLAKE SINCE 1996 AND MOVED TO THE BROWNSTONES IN 2008 AND WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.
I THINK THE DESIGN FROM GOING FROM THREE BUILDINGS DOWN TO TWO IS, IS A NET POSITIVE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW ANYBODY COULD SAY THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY WOULD VOTE FOR.
PARKING. WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH PARKING.
THE ONLY TIME THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO BE OVERFLOWING IS SOME SPECIAL EVENTS WHICH YOU WOULD EXPECT TO HAPPEN.
WE USE OUR CAR MUCH LESS BECAUSE WE WALK, WHETHER IT'S TO KROGER OR TO HOME DEPOT OR TO A MYRIAD OF THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE IN TOWN SQUARE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO USE OUR CARS TO GET THERE.
SO AGAIN, WE JUST LOVE LIVING HERE.
WE THANK FRANK AND HIS TEAM FOR PROVIDING A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND WE'RE FULL, FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
AND THE CHANGE THAT FROM THREE BUILDINGS TO TWO.
NEXT CARD IS FROM, I THINK, WILLIAM ARNOLD.
1586 MAIN STREET IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM AND IS DULY NOTED FOR THE RECORD, SIR.
AND IT WAS A LETTER ALSO DISTRIBUTED TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS FROM HENRY HUBBLE 2208 PATTERSON WAY, WHO IS IN OPPOSITION AND WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE, I BELIEVE, SIR. HI, MY NAME IS HENRY HUBBLE 2208 PATTERSON WAY IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SAY I'M NOT REALLY OPPOSED TO FRANKS PROJECT.
I SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT, ACTUALLY, AND ITS OVERALL CONCEPT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, MY ISSUE IS ONE OF THE CONTINUING INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS AREAS.
IT'S IT'S ALL IN THE APPROVED PLANS TO CONTINUE THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN AND I SUPPORT THAT DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN OUR PORTION OF THE WATERSHED AND THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT FRANK HAD THAT BASICALLY SHOWED, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS AREA, THE TOWN SQUARE HAS DEVELOPED.
ALL OF THAT WATER FLOWS INTO THE WEST JONES CREEK WATERSHED.
ALL OF THE GATEWAY STUFF FLOWS INTO THE WEST, JONES CREEK WATERSHED.
ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL OCCUR IN THIS AREA ALONG 114 FLOWS INTO THE WEST JONES CREEK WATERSHED. AND WE ARE DESIGNING WE HAVE AT THIS POINT DESIGNED ONLY TO THE REGIONAL DESIGN ONLY GOES TO THE KIRKWOOD UNDER [INAUDIBLE], YOU KNOW, WHERE THE WATER PASSES THERE. AND BY NOT GOING BEYOND THAT TO DO THE FULL REGIONAL LOOK THROUGH TO THE SOUTHLAKE BOUNDARIES, WE'RE BASICALLY LEAVING THE OUTLET OF THE GATEWAY PARKS PONDS TO BASICALLY A ROAD TO GET WIDE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THE FLOW THAT'S COMING THROUGH.
AND ALSO WE'RE BECAUSE I LIVE IN PATTERSONS POND, WE'RE THE FIRST WIDE SPOT AFTER ALL OF
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THAT EROSION AND SEDIMENT TRANSPORT OCCURS AND IT ALL LANDS IN OUR POND.THERE'S JUST IT'S COMING TOO MUCH AND TOO FREQUENTLY.
SO MY ISSUE IS REALLY ONE OF AN APPEAL TO HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT ISSUE TO GET THAT ON THE REGIONAL PLANNING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW THAT AFFECTS US ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO TO THE BOUNDARIES OF SOUTHLAKE.
APPRECIATE. WE'VE GOT YOUR LETTER, SIR.
WE'LL NOTE UT FOR THE RECORD AND MAKE SURE IT GETS MEMORIALIZED HERE THIS EVENING.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? I THINK I GUESS TECHNICALLY YOU COULD COME FORWARD, BUT I THINK WE'VE HEARD YOUR OPINION.
I GUESS YOU ARE A RESIDENT, BUT WE ARE GOING TO STRICTLY HOLD YOU TO YOUR THREE MINUTES.
YES. OH, IT'S ALREADY STARTED, APPARENTLY.
SO HENRY APPROACHED ME AFTER THE SPIN MEETING AND WE TOOK A OFF ROAD HIKE THROUGH GATEWAY PARK. THERE ARE BOTH SOME REAL DRAINAGE CHALLENGES AND HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT BECAUSE WE'VE STUDIED THIS BASIN.
BUT ALL THE STUDY STOPS AT KIRKWOOD AT THAT UNDERPASS.
AND IF YOU LOOK BEYOND, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, WITH GATEWAY PARK TO TURN THAT INTO A REAL ECOLOGICAL GEM FOR SOUTHLAKE AT THE SAME TIME SOLVING SOME DRAINAGE PROBLEMS THAT ARE THREATENING SOME OF THOSE HOMES.
SO IT DOESN'T REALLY RELATE TO THIS APPLICATION SO MUCH.
BUT I DID WANT P&Z TO BE AWARE OF IT.
AND I PLAN TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH HENRY AFTER THIS IS DONE.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM OTHER THAN THE APPLICANT AND SOME OTHERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD BEFORE I POTENTIALLY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OK, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MAYBE THE STAFF REAL QUICK, MAYBE IF YOU DON'T MIND, YOU KNOW, JUST LET ME JUST COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ON THE DRAINING DRAINAGE.
I KNOW IT'S NOT A DIRECT ITEM, YOU KNOW, ON THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST, BUT JUST MAYBE HIGH LEVEL I'M ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ANY KIND OF PLANS THAT WOULD RESULT FROM THIS APPLICATION WILL HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY STAFF REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
AND IT MAY BE JUST HIGH LEVEL, JUST BEYOND THAT IN TERMS OF JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LARGER ISSUES THAT, AGAIN, ARE UNRELATED TO THIS DIRECTLY, BUT JUST THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
IF APPROVED, FULL SET OF ENGINEERING PLANS WILL BE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE THE BUILDING AND THE THE ENGINEERING APPLICATION TO BE THE NEXT STEP.
AND THEN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WILL LOOK AT THE STORMWATER AND BY TEXAS LAW, BY CITY ORDINANCE, THAT THEY CANNOT INCREASE THE THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF COMING OFF THE SITE HAVE TO DETAIN IF REQUIRED.
SO THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET ALL THE DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE.
BUT THAT IS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW AND ENGINEERING REVIEW AT THAT LEVEL WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT. I KNOW OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IS VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE CONCERNS OF THE SPEAKER AND THE PATTERSON POND BEING AT THE END OF THE DRAINAGE AREA. AND I KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT AND ADDRESS TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT, OK.
SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE SEE IN THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF AS WE SEE FUTURE APPLICATIONS COME IN, SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A CONSIDERATION WITHIN THAT WITHIN THAT ZONE, I GUESS. YES, SIR.
THAT'S CORRECT. OK, OK, THANK YOU.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MEMORIALIZE SOME OF THAT FOR SURE.
OK, ANYBODY, I GUESS HAVE ANY OTHER SUBSEQUENT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR APPLICANT OR ANY, ANY DELIBERATION.
I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN WELL VERSED THIS EVENING IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC SCOPE WE HAVE ON THIS ONE IN TERMS OF COMPARING BETWEEN THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, OPEN SPACE, BUILDING FLOOR PLATES, UNITS PER BUILDING, ET CETERA.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S BEEN PRESENTED FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND IN DEPTH.
SO I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT QUESTIONS OR DO YOU WANT TO POTENTIALLY ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM ANYBODY? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA ZA 21-0025 SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED APRIL 30TH, 2021.
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AND FURTHER SUBJECT TO THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO, DATED APRIL 30TH 2021.WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
SECOND. OK, LET'S GO AND AHEAD AND VOTE PLEASE.
I THINK WE'RE MISSING ONE VOTE, COMMISSIONER DYCHE.
OK, PASSES SIX ONE, CONGRATULATIONS, GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT LEVEL, I THINK ASSUMING IT GOES TO THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THAT WOULD BE MAY 18TH, A TUESDAY, IS THAT CORRECT? AM I READING THAT RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO WAS HERE THIS EVENING SUPPORTIVE, AGAINST, DRAINAGE ISSUES, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT'S POTENTIALLY THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. SO, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE YOUR INVOLVEMENT AT THAT NEXT LEVEL AS WELL. SO WITH THAT, I GUESS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GAVEL OUT OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING THIS EVENING.
AND IF YOU'RE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PLANS THIS EVENING, YOU CAN STICK AROUND FOR A SIGN BOARD MEETING, IF YOU LIKE, HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.
SO.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.