May 18, 2021 City Council

I WAS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE, I'LL BE HONEST, IT WAS MY FIRST ONE, OK.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TO TODAY'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THIS IS THE MAY 18TH, 2021 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[1. Call to order]

SO FIRST STEP AS ALWAYS.

WE'RE GOING TO INVITE OUR CITY CHAPLAIN, PASTOR CLAY REID, TO COME UP AND GIVE THE INVOCATION.

PASTOR REID? WELCOME, MAYOR.

WELCOME, MAYOR, AND DIDN'T GET TO BE HERE LAST WEEK WHEN YOU GUYS GOT SWORN IN.

THERE'S A PLACE IN SCRIPTURE I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IN JEWISH HISTORY, SOLOMON HAS BECOME THE NEW KING.

THERE'S A LEADERSHIP TRANSFER IN IT AND GOD COMES TO HIM IN A DREAM.

AND HE SAYS THIS.

WHAT CAN I GIVE YOU? ASK.

AND SOLOMON SAID, YOU ARE EXTRAVAGANTLY GENEROUS AND LOVE WITH MY FATHER.

AND HE LIVED FAITHFUL IN YOUR PRESENCE.

HIS RELATIONSHIPS WERE JUST IN HIS HEART RIGHT.

AND YOU HAVE PERSISTED IN THIS GREAT AND GENEROUS LOVE BY GIVING HIM A SON TO SIT ON THE THRONE.

AND NOW HERE I AM.

GOD, MY GOD, YOU HAD MADE ME YOUR SERVANT RULER IN THE PLACE OF DAVID, MY FATHER.

I'M TOO YOUNG FOR THIS.

A MERE CHILD.

I DON'T KNOW THE ROPES, HARDLY KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF THIS JOB.

AND HERE I AM SET DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PEOPLE YOU'VE CHOSEN; A GREAT PEOPLE, SOLOMON RESPONDS.

HERE'S WHAT I WANT.

GIVE ME A GOD LISTENING HEART SO I CAN LEAD PEOPLE WHILE DISCERNING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL.

FOR WHO ON THEIR OWN IS CAPABLE OF LEADING THESE PEOPLE? GOD WAS DELIGHTED WITH SOLOMON'S RESPONSE AND GOD SAID TO HIM, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ASKED FOR THIS AND NOT ASKED FOR A LONG LIFE OR RICHES OR THE DOOM OF YOUR ENEMIES, BUT YOU'VE ASKED FOR THE ABILITY TO LEAD AND GOVERN.

WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.

I'M GIVING YOU A WISE AND MATURE HEART.

SO THAT'S MY PRAYER TONIGHT.

JESUS, WE COME TO YOU FOR OUR MAYOR AND FOR OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SAT BEHIND THAT DESK FAITHFULLY FOR YEARS.

WE DON'T ASK FOR THE DOOM OF OUR ENEMIES.

WE JUST ASK FOR WISDOM TO GOVERN THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHLAKE WELL.

SO I PRAY EVERY DECISION THAT'S MADE TONIGHT AND GOING FORWARD THAT YOU'LL GIVE OUR MAYOR AND THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF THAT SUPPORTS THESE DECISIONS JUST INCREDIBLE WISDOM TO KNOW YOUR WILL.

TO DO WHAT YOU'VE CALLED THEM TO DO AND THAT YOU WOULD GIVE EACH OF THEM A WISE AND DISCERNING HEART SO THAT SOUTHLAKE WILL BE LED WELL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE FOR US.

THANK YOU FOR JESUS.

AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR PRAYERS.

AND IT'S IN JESUS' NAME, WE PRAY, AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU TO PASTOR REID.

APPRECIATE YOU.

NEXT UP, WE ARE GOING TO INVITE OUR CHAMBER BOARD CHAIRMAN, MR.

[3. Southlake Chamber of Commerce Updates by Justin Lewis]

COME ON DOWN, MR. LEWIS.

THANKS FOR.

WELL, HELLO, AND THIS IS A SHORT MICROPHONE, SO I'M GOING TO LIFT IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH, WELL, FIRST OFF, CONGRATULATIONS, MAYOR HUFFMAN, IT'S EXCITING TO HAVE YOU AS THE NEW MAYOR OF OUR CITY AND TO ALL OF OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

VERY EXCITING.

I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF AND JUST TO UPDATE YOU ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE STATE OF BUSINESS AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

SO WE JUST HAD ANOTHER RIBBON CUTTING AND WE'RE NOTICING QUITE A FEW MORE PEOPLE COMING OUT.

PEOPLE SEEM TO BE LOOSENING UP AND GETTING BEING MORE WILLING TO SHOW UP TO TO THESE EVENTS, WHICH IS EXCITING.

KATHY TALLEY WAS THERE, WHICH WE APPRECIATED.

WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AT THE CHAMBER.

SO THIS IS JUST A LIST OF NEW BUSINESSES THAT HAVE JOINED THE CHAMBER THIS YEAR, WHICH CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO, IT'S PRETTY EXCITING TO SEE SO MANY NEW BUSINESSES STILL COMING TO SOUTHLAKE.

QUICK LOOK AT OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

WE WE LOST ONE PERSON FROM OUR BOARD WHO BECAME THE MAYOR OF SOUTHLAKE, BUT IT

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BUT YEAH, WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT BOARD AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE ON THE BOARD AND ALL OF OUR EX-OFFICIALS AS WELL, INCLUDING DANIEL CORTEZ.

PLEASE KEEP SENDING HIM TO US.

HE'S BEEN UNBELIEVABLY HELPFUL FOR US.

AND YES, ONCE AGAIN, CONGRATS TO EVERYONE WHO'S JOINED THE BOARD OR THE COUNCIL.

WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU GUYS ON AND WE'RE EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU.

WE WANT TO GIVE A QUICK NOTICE.

SO RONAK [INAUDIBLE], WHO'S ON THE BOARD, HE IS HE JUST GOT HIS CITIZENSHIP.

HE DID IT THE RIGHT WAY.

IT TOOK HIM TWENTY ONE YEARS TO ACHIEVE HIS CITIZENSHIP, AND HE JUST GOT IT.

SO IF YOU SEE RONAK, PLEASE GIVE HIM A BIG HUG OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE DOING A FIST BUMP? I DON'T KNOW.

BUT HE'S EXCITED AND WE'RE EXCITED FOR HIM.

AND SPEAKING OF RONAK, RONAK JUST RECENTLY REDESIGNED THE THE NEW CHAMBER WEBSITE.

OUR LAST ONE WAS BUILT IN 1912.

AND SO WE'VE UPDATED IT.

AND WE'RE NOW, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK IT OUT.

WE'VE MADE A POINT OF TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT SOUTHLAKE AND WHAT A BUSINESS FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT SOUTHLAKE IS.

SO CHECK THAT OUT WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE.

WE'RE STILL MEETING MONTHLY WITH OUR SOUTHLAKE RELATIONSHIP NETWORKING GROUP.

WE'D LOVE TO SEE ANYONE THERE.

WE'VE BEEN HAVING AS MANY AS 50 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE.

SO ONCE AGAIN, THINGS ARE TRENDING UPWARD.

OUR NEXT NETWORKING GROUP, OUR BUSINESS INSIDER NETWORKING GROUP, IS COMING UP ON JUNE 3RD WITH JULIA ROGERSON FROM THE CBD STORE, WHICH SHOULD BE A GREAT TALK.

FOURTEEN DOLLARS ALL INCLUSIVE.

TWENTY BUCKS FOR NONMEMBERS.

SEE YOU THERE.

AND THEN WE HAD AN EXCELLENT LUNCHEON WITH VARISPACE.

SO WE WE DEPARTED FROM OUR NORMAL VENUE, WE HOSTED AT VARISPACE.

WE HAD THE EVENT SOLD OUT.

WE ACTUALLY HAD TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY.

SO ONCE AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE SHOWING BACK UP.

AND OUR SPONSOR AND CATERER OF THE EVENT WAS THE FEED STORE.

AND WE JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE SUCH GREAT SUPPORTERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY OBVIOUSLY MAKE THE BEST BARBECUE IN TOWN.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO SAY THAT.

AND THEN OUR AMBASSADOR OF THE MONTH THIS MONTH WAS BILL TATE, AS YOU PROBABLY COULD HAVE GUESSED, BECAUSE YOU SEE HIM AT EVERYTHING.

SO IF YOU SEE BILL TATE, GIVE HIM A HIGH FIVE.

AND OUR MEMBER OF THE MONTH WAS TONYA BOYETTE AND JENNIFER GOLDEN FROM TEKLA PROMOTIONS.

AND THE NEXT THING UP, WE'VE GOT OUR LEADERSHIP SOUTHLAKE CLASS GRADUATING THIS MONTH.

THEY'VE BEEN A FANTASTIC GROUP.

AND I'LL KIND OF SHARE WHAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR, BUT THEY'LL BE GRADUATING.

WHAT I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT THEY RAISED ALMOST ELEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS TO BUY NEW, I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED DRESS BLUES, AS WE CALL THEM IN THE MARINES.

I THINK THAT'S A POLICE CALL THEM.

IS THAT RIGHT? ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO WE'VE RAISED ELEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS UNIFORM COSTS, ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO.

YEAH, AND THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT THEMSELVES.

WE WERE ABLE TO BUY ALMOST ELEVEN NEW UNIFORMS FOR THE POLICE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND SPEAKING OF, OUR LUNCHEON THIS MONTH WITH, WHERE WE'RE GRADUATING THE THE LEADERSHIP SOUTHLAKE CLASS, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THE POLICE CHIEF, JAMES BRANDON, SPEAKING.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC EVENT WHERE HE'LL BE ABLE TO ENLIGHTEN US, BUT ALSO KIND OF CONGRATULATE THE CLASS THAT JUST GRADUATED.

AS ALWAYS, WE'RE WORKING HARD TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND OUR COMMUNITY PRAYER BREAKFAST THAT STARTED DURING COVID IS GOING TO CONTINUE.

SO WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU THERE.

IT'S ON ZOOM 8-8:30 WITH STERLING SMITH FROM WHITE'S CHAPEL.

AND THEN OUR NEXT UPCOMING LUNCHEON WILL BE AT THE MARQ.

THIS IS IN JUNE AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR EVENTS.

THIS IS SPEED NETWORKING.

WE ALWAYS GET ONE HUNDRED FIFTY, HUNDRED AND SIXTY PEOPLE THERE AND YOU GET TO MEET AND GREET WITH A TON OF PEOPLE.

IT'S A HUGE EVENT.

WE GET PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT COME TO IT AND IT'S JUST AN EXCITING AND FUN EVENT.

AND THEN FINALLY, OUR AWARDS BANQUET IS FINALLY ON.

WE HAD TO CANCEL IT LAST YEAR AND OUR AWARDS BANQUET WILL BE COMING UP HERE VERY SOON IN AUGUST.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW ORLEANS THEME.

SO IT SHOULD BE A LOT OF FUN AND HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE.

AND THEN FINALLY, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, OCTOBER FEST WITH THE FEARLESS MARK GILBERT IS BACK ON WHICH WE COULDN'T BE HAPPIER ABOUT.

IT'S ONE OF SOUTHLAKE'S BIGGEST AND BEST EVENTS, IN MY OPINION.

AND WE'RE EXPECTING A GREAT TURNOUT AND A LOT OF FUN.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW, EXCITING VENDORS AND THINGS TO SHOW THE CITY.

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WE SPENT THIS LAST YEAR MAKING THIS EVENT EVEN BIGGER AND BETTER THAN THAN IT WAS BEFORE.

SO I'M SURE WE'LL SEE EVERYONE THERE.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I'LL SEE YOU GUYS SOON.

THANK YOU, JUSTIN, APPRECIATE IT.

BEFORE YOU LEAVE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR JUSTIN? WE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A VERY, VERY CHALLENGING YEAR, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHAMBER, BOTH AT THE BOARD LEVEL AND THE STAFF LEVEL, HAS BEEN SO, SO GREAT AND BEARING OUT IN YOUR NUMBERS AND YOUR GROWING DESPITE ALL OF THIS.

AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT OCTOBER FEST.

I CAN SAY THAT WITH CONFIDENCE.

FOR SURE.

AS LONG AS MARK GILBERT IS GOING TO BE THERE WITH LEDERHOSEN.

OH, WE'LL BE THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

YES.

THE WIENER DOG RACE IS GOING TO BE ACTIVE THIS YEAR FOR THE OCTOBER FEST? IT WOULDN'T BE OCTOBER FEST WITHOUT IT.

ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE AN ENTRY? WE HAVE FOR THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS? EXCELLENT.

ALL RIGHT.

TWO.

COOL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, JUSTIN.

APPRECIATE IT.

OK, WITH THAT, I'LL CALL ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA.

[4. Presentation of Volunteer Service Awards]

MS. STACEY BLACK, WHO'S GOING TO PRESENT VOLUNTEER SERVICE AWARDS TO VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE MET THE ESTABLISHED VOLUNTEER SERVICE REQUIREMENTS.

AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF YOU, WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE RECIPIENTS IN ATTENDANCE TO STAND UP FROM THEIR SEATS WHEN THEIR NAMES ARE CALLED.

AND THEN AT THE END OF IT, EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE ASKED TO COME DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE WITH COUNCIL.

SO, MS. BLACK, TAKE IT AWAY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS COUNCIL.

WE ARE, AS MAYOR HUFFMAN SAID, SO EXCITED THIS EVENING TO PRESENT OUR VOLUNTEER SERVICE AWARDS TO SUCH A DEDICATED GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS.

AND AS WE ALL KNOW, 2020 WAS SUCH A HARD YEAR FOR SO MANY PEOPLE WITH COVID EVERYTHING WAS IMPACTED, INCLUDING OUR VOLUNTEER PROGRAM.

BUT DESPITE THESE CHALLENGES, OUR VOLUNTEERS REALLY PERSEVERED AND GAVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO HIGHLIGHT THEIR GREAT WORK.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF STATISTICS FIRST.

YOU CAN SEE THE IMPACT OF OUR VOLUNTEERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THIS YEAR WE HAD 424 VOLUNTEERS GIVE THEIR SERVICE HOURS DURING THESE UNCERTAIN TIMES, AND THOSE 424 VOLUNTEERS GAVE OVER 9000 HOURS, WHICH EQUATES TO A VALUE JUST OVER TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, AS INDICATED BY THE INDEPENDENT SECTOR.

TO GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF SOME OF THE WORK THEY'VE DONE THIS LAST YEAR.

THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THAT FOR YOU.

WHEN THE LIBRARY OPENED ON JUNE 4TH, BEING CLOSED DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, VOLUNTEERS CAME BACK BECAUSE OUR CITIZENS STILL WANTED TO COME THE LIBRARY AND USE OUR SERVICES.

AND THOSE VOLUNTEERS HELPED US SHELVE 88000 BOOKS.

SO WITHOUT VOLUNTEERS, OUR LIBRARY COULDN'T DO THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO.

OUR VOLUNTEERS ALSO CAME BACK AND HELPED GIVE FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SPECIAL EVENT SENIOR LUNCHES TO OUR VOLUNTEERS.

THIS IS AN ADDITION TO THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH METRO PARK MEALS ON WHEELS, WHO ACTUALLY SERVED 4000 CURBSIDE MEALS TO OUR SENIORS DURING COVID.

THOSE LUNCHES WERE ALSO SUPPORTED THROUGH LOTS OF VOLUNTEERS, THE NATIONAL CHARITY LEAGUE AND YMSL.

BUT LET'S NOT FORGET OUR DPS VOLUNTEERS.

THEY ALSO DO A LOT OF REALLY GREAT WORK AND DID NOT DISAPPOINT THIS LAST YEAR.

IN FACT, SOME OF THE GREAT WORK THEY DID WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE NORTHEAST TARRANT COUNTY VACCINATION CLINIC.

THEY GAVE OVER 600 HOURS IN SUPPORT OF THE VACCINATION CLINIC TO MAKE SURE TEXANS GET VACCINATED.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHO WE'RE RECOGNIZING THIS EVENING.

WE ARE SO PROUD TO RECOGNIZE THESE VOLUNTEERS AND WE ACTUALLY GIVE OUT THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF AWARDS.

TONIGHT WE'LL HIGHLIGHT OUR JUNIOR AND ADULT SERVICE AWARD WINNERS, OUR LIFETIME MILESTONE RECIPIENTS AND, OF COURSE, THE PRESIDENTIAL SERVICE AWARD RECIPIENTS.

SO THE FIRST AWARD THIS EVENING IS FOR OUR JUNIOR SERVICE AWARD, THE JUNIOR SERVICE AWARD IS PRESENTED TO THE JUNIOR VOLUNTEER WHO HAS SERVED THE MOST HOURS IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

AND THIS YEAR, WE'RE PROUD TO GIVE THIS AWARD TO PAUL KURIAKOSE.

HE'S A LIBRARY VOLUNTEER AND THIS LAST YEAR VOLUNTEER OVER 96 HOURS AT THE LIBRARY AND HAS SERVED MORE THAN 100 HOURS IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

I DON'T BELIEVE PAUL WAS ABLE TO COME THIS EVENING, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO GIVE HIM THE RECOGNITION HE SO DESERVES.

SIMILAR TO THE JUNIOR SERVICE AWARD, WE ALSO GIVE OUT AN ADULT SERVICE AWARD, AND THIS IS PRESENTED TO THE ADULT VOLUNTEERS WHO SERVE THE MOST HOURS IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

AND THIS YEAR, I'M PROUD TO GIVE THIS AWARD TO JEFFREY NG.

JEFFREY IS A PROUD VOLUNTEER, THE PUBLIC SERVANT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AND LAST YEAR VOLUNTEERED OVER ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN HOURS.

BUT THAT'S JUST A SNIPPET OF HIS VOLUNTEER SERVICE SINCE STARTING SERVING WITH US YESTERDAY, OVER 700 HOURS.

YOU'LL ALSO SEE HIS NAME A LITTLE BIT LATER AS A RECIPIENT OF THE BRONZE PRESIDENTIAL SERVICE AWARD.

THE NEXT CATEGORY OF AWARDS ARE A MILESTONE SERVICE AWARDS, AND THESE AWARDS ARE PRESENTED TO VOLUNTEERS WHO REACH MILESTONE SERVICE IN 500 HOUR INCREMENTS.

AND WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THESE DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE REALLY SHOWN THEIR SERVICE YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.

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WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR THEIR SERVICE THIS YEAR.

WE ARE PLEASED TO HONOR ONE VOLUNTEER WHO REACHED THE 1500 HOUR MILESTONE AND THAT INDIVIDUAL IS, KAREN MERTZ.

I BELIEVE KAREN IS HERE.

WE'RE ALSO PLEASED TO RECOGNIZE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO REACHED THE TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED HOUR MILESTONE SERVICE AWARD THIS YEAR AND THAT INDIVIDUAL IS PAMELA MULLER, ALSO A DEDICATED VOLUNTEER WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT.

NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR PRESIDENT'S VOLUNTEER SERVICE.

AWARD AND THIS LAST CATEGORY OF AWARD IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY OUR PRESIDENT'S OFFICE, AND IT WAS STARTED BY THE PRESIDENT'S COUNCIL OF SERVICE AND CIVIC PARTICIPATION IN 2003 AS A WAY TO THANK AND HONOR AMERICANS WHO, BY EXAMPLE, INSPIRE OTHERS TO ENGAGE IN VOLUNTEER SERVICE.

THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE BECAME A CERTIFYING ORGANIZATION FOR THIS AWARD IN 2014, AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE GIVEN OUT NEARLY 300 DIFFERENT AWARDS.

TONIGHT, WE'RE HONORED TO RECOGNIZE EIGHT INDIVIDUALS IN THE BRONZE AND SILVER CATEGORIES.

SO FIRST WE'LL, RECOGNIZE THOSE IN THE BRONZE CATEGORY.

TO ACHIEVE A BRONZE AWARD, YOU MUST MEET CERTAIN SERVICE THRESHOLDS.

AND IN ORDER TO RECEIVE ONE, TEAM VOLUNTEERS ARE REQUIRED TO SERVE A MINIMUM OF 50 HOURS.

YOUNG ADULTS AND ADULTS ARE REQUIRED TO SERVE 100 HOURS.

THIS YEAR, WE'RE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE SIX VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE EARNED THIS DISTINCTION AND REPEAT HONOREES.

YOU'LL SEE THEM AN ASTRONAUT HERE ON THE SCREEN.

BUT AS I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO STAND MALIKA KUMBHAT, PAMELA MULLER, JEFFREY ENG, FAARIA SHAH, JIM SHIREY AND KEN STEWART.

PLEASE HELP ME CONGRATULATE EACH ONE OF THEM.

AND FINALLY, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO RECOGNIZE TWO SILVER RECIPIENTS THIS YEAR AS WELL.

TO EARN A SILVER AWARD, VOLUNTEERS MUST HAVE SERVED A MINIMUM OF 75 HOURS FOR TEENS.

YOUNG ADULTS,175 HOURS ADULTS, TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY HOURS.

TWO OF OUR SOUTHLAKE VOLUNTEERS RECEIVED THIS RECOGNITION.

TONIGHT, WE'RE RECOGNIZING VIDA ODUMOSU AND MADELINE SHEPARD.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING EACH OF THEM.

I CANNOT SAY IT ENOUGH, VOLUNTEERS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO US HERE AT THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE AND SO IMPORTANT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, THEY REALLY HELP US ACCOMPLISH THE MISSION OF THE CITY AND WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR THEIR SERVICE.

I'D LIKE TO OFFER JUST A HEARTFELT THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH OF THE RECIPIENTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR.

BLACK.

AND LET ME ECHO THOSE.

THANK YOUS.

WE ARE GRATEFUL AS A CITY IN ALL OF US PUT IN A LOT OF HOURS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST THE MOST VISIBLE PART OF THIS.

THE REALITY IS THAT ALL OF YOU WHO ARE SPENDING YOUR TIME BEHIND THE SCENES AND VOLUNTEERING AND YOU MAKE THE CITY WORK IN A VERY REAL WAY.

YOU SAW THE VALUE OF YOUR SERVICE TO THE TAXPAYERS, 250,000 DOLLARS.

IT'S INCREDIBLE.

SO SINCERELY FROM FROM US, THE COUNCIL TO YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? SO I'M INCREDIBLY THANKFUL AND BLESSED TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT'S SO GIVING SPECIFICALLY OF THEIR TIME.

I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE AND SAID I WANTED TO BECOME INVOLVED AND JOHN HUFFMAN, MAYOR HUFFMAN, SOUNDS WEIRD TO SAY, BY THE WAY, WAS PART OF THE GROUP THAT ALLOWED ME TO GET ON ZBA AND I SERVED ON IT FOR FOUR YEARS.

WHAT WHAT WAS REMARKABLE WAS TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTIVE AND ENGAGED IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S JUST TREMENDOUS TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT'S SO VIBRANT AND PEOPLE WANT TO STEP UP AND BE ENGAGED.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH.

ECHOING THE MAYOR IN RIGHT NOW, I WOULD JUST ADD, AS DIRECTOR BLACK SHOWED THE STATISTICS FINANCIALLY, BUT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE DECADES OF SERVICE, IT'S MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AND SOME OF THESE FOLKS TONIGHT INDIVIDUALLY, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNT FOR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF THOSE DOLLARS.

SO I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE NOTED.

IT'S JUST IT'S INVALUABLE TO OUR CITY.

SO THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, I NOW INVITE EVERYBODY WHO WON AN AWARD TONIGHT, COULD YOU PLEASE COME UP FRONT AND THEN COUNCIL, LET'S JOIN THEM DOWN BELOW THE DAIS AND WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE.

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[5. Honors and Recognition: Proclamation for Southlake Girls Lacrosse Team]

AN INCREDIBLE FEAT.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU.

VERY, VERY PROUD OF THIS ACHIEVEMENT.

SO WHAT WE'VE GOT IS A PROCLAMATION.

I'M GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION.

IT'S SUPER EXCITING.

AND BY THAT I MEAN RATHER BORING.

BUT THEN I'M GOING TO ASK COACH MORGAN MCDONALD TO COME DOWN AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TEAM.

SO FIRST, LET ME READ THIS PROCLAMATION.

SO WHEREAS THE SOUTHLAKE LADY DRAGONS LACROSSE TEAM RECENTLY FINISHED RUNNER UP IN THE THSGLL DIVISION I STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, AND WHEREAS IN ORDER TO EXCEL IN ANY ONE SPORT, A YOUNG PERSON AND TEAM MUST DEMONSTRATE AN OUTSTANDING SPIRIT OF DEDICATION, ENTHUSIASM AND HARD WORK.

OUR SOUTHLAKE LADY DRAGON LACROSSE TEAM IS A VIVID EXAMPLE OF SUCH COMMITMENT AND SPORTSMANSHIP.

AND WHEREAS SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION IS DUE TO ALL THE TEAM MEMBERS TO HEAD COACH MORGAN MCDONALD, ASSISTANT COACHES LIDAI BOYKIN AND KATE MURPHY, AS WELL AS SENIOR CAPTAIN SOPHIE PATTON AND JUNIOR CAPTAIN LOGAN RISENHOOVER.

AND WHEREAS WE ARE PLEASED TO EXTEND THIS EXPRESSION OF OUR PRIDE IN YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND OUR APPRECIATION FOR THE FINE RECORD YOU HAVE EARNED FOR YOUR TEAM AND FOR SOUTHLAKE CARROLL HIGH SCHOOL.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN, ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTHLAKE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 18TH, 2021 AS SOUTHLAKE LADY DRAGONS LACROSSE TEAM DAY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

OK, COACH MACDONALD, COME ON DOWN AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE JOURNEY, AND WE WANT TO HEAR ALL ABOUT THE TEAM.

MAYOR, WHILE THE COACH IS COMING DOWN WITH A COUPLE OF PLAYERS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS ON THIS.

AS A PARENT OF ONE OF THESE KIDS OUT HERE, WE COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS THIS YEAR.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THE GIRLS KIND OF BROKE OFF AND BIFURCATED INTO TWO PROGRAMS WHERE THEY WERE REALLY MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO ESTABLISH SOME GENDER EQUALITY.

AND WHAT MAKES IT EXTRA SPECIAL FOR THESE GIRLS IS THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO COME BACK TOGETHER AS ONE UNIT THIS YEAR TO PLAY IN THEIR FIRST FULL SEASON.

AND SO COMPARATIVELY, WHEN THEY PLAYED ALL THESE OTHER TEAMS, MANY OF WHICH ARE PRIVATE SCHOOLS, THAT OFTENTIMES END UP WITH SOME OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE DFW AREA, THEY ARE GOING UP AGAINST KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN PLAYING TOGETHER FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

AND SO THE IDEA THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER AS ONE TEAM THIS YEAR AND ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS THAT THEY DID IS REALLY SOMETHING QUITE SPECIAL.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S A LITTLE EXTRA NOTED HERE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CELEBRATE THEM FOR THIS EVENING.

THANKS.

WELL SAID, VERY WELL SAID.

AND I THINK YOU RECOGNIZE ONE OF THE SENIOR CAPTAINS? YEAH, I RECOGNIZE ONE OF THEM ON PAYROLL.

A COUPLE MORE MONTHS.

COACH MCDONALD, TELL US ALL ABOUT THE TEAM.

YEAH.

SO FIRST OFF, THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US HERE AND RECOGNIZING US.

I'M VERY HONORED TO BE THE HEAD COACH OF THIS PROGRAM.

WE'VE COME A REALLY LONG WAY AND I THINK SOME OF YOU KNOW THAT.

AND I'M JUST REALLY PROUD OF THESE GIRLS AND THEIR DETERMINATION.

YOU KNOW, OUR SEASON.

I WANT TO, I THINK WE WERE 10 AND FIVE IN THE END OF THE SEASON, BUT WE 100 PERCENT HAD THE HARDEST SCHEDULE OF ANY TEAM IN THE ENTIRE STATE THIS YEAR.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HUGE FOR OUR GIRLS.

OUR GROWTH AS A TEAM AND AS INDIVIDUALS OF PLAYERS WERE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY YOUNG.

AND WE THIS YEAR, I MEAN, WE HAD THREE HIGH SCHOOL TEAMS THIS YEAR, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE.

WE HAD A DIVISION I TEAM, WHICH IS THESE GIRLS IN DIVISION II TEAM AND A J.V.

TEAM.

SO OUR PROGRAM IS GROWING.

BUT WHAT'S REALLY, REALLY COOL IS JUST THESE GIRLS HAD A REALLY, REALLY HARD PLAYOFF RUN AND THEY OVERCAME.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY, REALLY COOL.

AND JUST TO SEE HOW FAR THEY'VE COME AS A TEAM AND AS PLAYERS AND AS A FAMILY, IT'S JUST

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SO I'M GOING TO LET MY CAPTAIN SAY A LITTLE BIT HERE, JUST REAL BRIEFLY AND JUST ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE ON THE TEAM.

AND I MEAN, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURES, JUST LIKE THE PRIDE THAT RADIATES IN THESE GIRLS EYES, IN THEIR HEARTS, YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE IT.

AND IT'S JUST REALLY COOL TO SEE HOW FAR A PROGRAM HAS COME.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING US TODAY.

HELLO, I'M SOPHIE PATTON, I WAS ONE OF THE CAPTAINS FOR THE 2020-2021 LACROSSE SEASON.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR HUFFMAN FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

AND THEN A HUGE THANK YOU TO ALL THREE OF OUR COACHES FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE FOR US THIS SEASON.

TO ALL OF THE GIRLS ON THE D! TEAM, I AM SO INCREDIBLY PROUD OF EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING THEY'VE CONTRIBUTED THIS YEAR.

AS A TEAM, WE HAVE OVERCAME SO MANY OBSTACLES TOGETHER THIS SEASON AND TRULY LEFT EVERYTHING ON THE FIELD.

I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT I WAS A PART OF THE TEAM THIS YEAR AND I'M GOING TO MISS LADY DRAGON LACROSSE AND ALL OF YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

HI, MY NAME IS LOGAN RISENHOOVER, I AM THE OTHER CAPTAIN ALONG WITH SOPHIE.

AND THE BIGGEST THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TODAY WAS JUST HOW EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE TEAM HAS GROWN SO CLOSE ON AND OFF THE FIELD.

AND SOMETHING THAT IS SO IMPORTANT WHEN YOU PLAY A SPORT IS GROWING NOT ONLY ON THE FIELD AND LEARNING HOW TO PLAY THE SPORT THAT YOU'RE PLAYING, BUT ALSO GROWING WITH YOUR TEAMMATES AND LEARNING TO BE A BETTER PERSON OFF THE FIELD.

AND I THINK WITH ALL OF OUR COACHES AND JUST EVERYTHING WE OVERCOME AS A TEAM, WE'VE REALLY GROWN INTO NOT ONLY A TEAM BUT A FAMILY.

AND I'M SO HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THAT FAMILY.

ALL RIGHT, CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

OK, AND THEN LADY DRAGON LACROSSE, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ONE MORE ITEM HERE, HOMEWORK SESSION SO YOU ALL HANG OUT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THE STEPS OF TOWN HALL AND TAKE A PICTURE TOGETHER.

OK, SO YOU'LL GET TO HANG OUT AND SEE US DO A LITTLE BIT OF REALLY SUPER EXCITING WORK.

NO, ACTUALLY, THE NEXT ITEM IS, IS A REALLY COOL ITEM.

[10.B. Discussion on a proposed sports wall.]

WE'RE CALLING THIS SLIGHTLY OUT OF ORDER.

THIS IS FROM OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

IT'S THE DISCUSSION OF A PROPOSED SPORTS WALL.

SO I WILL RECOGNIZE THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES, CHRIS TRIBBLE, TO DO A PRESENTATION ON ITEM 10B.

DR. TRIBBLE? MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU ON A ANACAPRI CICCONE.

ANACAPRI HAS A PROJECT THAT SHE WANTS TO BRING FORWARD AND SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT, THE IDEA SHE HAS.

AND SO I'LL KIND OF HELP HER GET SET UP AND THEN LET HER WALK YOU THROUGH HER PRESENTATION AND SHE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND ALL THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

ANACAPRI, COME ON UP.

JUST SIT DOWN HERE.

OK.

HELLO, MY NAME'S ANICAPRI CICCONE, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INTRODUCTION.

AND SO BEFORE I INTRODUCE MYSELF A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL, I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF GO OVER WHAT I WANT TO COVER TODAY.

AND SO I'LL JUST WALK US DOWN THAT AND THEN I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT EACH TOPIC.

SO FIRST, I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF A LITTLE BIT.

NEXT, I WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT, ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO DO AND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT IS.

NEXT, I WILL TALK ABOUT THE DISCUSSION AND GUIDANCE THAT I'VE GOTTEN AND I'VE RECEIVED FROM THE MEETINGS THAT I'VE ALREADY HAD UP TO THIS POINT.

AND THEN NEXT I WILL TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED NEXT STEPS FOR MY PROJECT.

OK, BEFORE I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF, I'D LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE NEW LEADERSHIP ROLES THAT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN PLACED IN.

SO CONGRATS TO THAT.

OK, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.

I MOVE TO SOUTHLAKE IN 2013 FROM NEW YORK.

I CURRENTLY AM A FRESHMAN AT GRAPEVINE FAITH AND I HAVE BEEN PLAYING BASEBALL EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN SIX YEARS OLD AND JUST THIS YEAR I TRANSITIONED TO SOFTBALL.

AND SO JUST THIS WEEKEND, MY SCHOOL ACTUALLY MY SOFTBALL TEAM MADE IT TO THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP AND WE PLACED SECOND IN ALL OF STATE.

SO I WAS REALLY PROUD OF US FOR THAT.

I HAVE BEEN PLAYING PIANO AND SAXOPHONE EVER BEEN EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN SIX YEARS OLD.

AND I WAS I JUST A NEW MEMBER OF NCO AND ALSO I AM A SCOUT.

YEAH, OK, AND SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BSA, SO IN 2019, THEY FINALLY WELCOMED

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AND SO IN 2019, I JOINED TROOP 1928, WHICH IS BASED OUT OF WHITE'S CHAPEL HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND SO RIGHT NOW I'M CURRENTLY WORKING TOWARDS MY LIFE SCOUT.

I AM A LIFE SCOUT, I'M CURRENTLY WORKING TOWARDS MY EAGLE SCOUT AND PART OF BEING AN EAGLE SCOUT IS WORKING ON YOUR EAGLE PROJECT.

AND SO JUST WHAT AN EAGLE PROJECT IS AND THE PURPOSE OF AN EAGLE PROJECT IS TARGETED TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WHILE LEARNING, PLANNING AND LEADING A SIGNIFICANT, IMPACTFUL PROJECT.

AND FOR MY EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT, MY EAGLE SCOUT MENTOR IS JOHN SLOCUM.

OK, SO EXACTLY WHAT MY WALL IS AND THE PURPOSE OF IT.

SO DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE HAVE LOST A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO BE ABLE TO HANG OUT WITH PEOPLE, GO OUTSIDE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE A LOT MORE, OBVIOUSLY.

AND SO I WAS THINKING THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN GO OUTSIDE HEALTHY AND JUST A GOOD PLACE TO GROW AND BE WITH PEOPLE THAT WE CARE ABOUT.

SO WHAT I WANT FOR THIS PROJECT IS TO HAVE A WELCOMING, INTERACTIVE, OUTSIDE GATHERING PLACE TO SAFELY ENJOY RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND A FUN AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

AND SO THE WALL WOULD BE DESIGNED FOR SOUTHLAKE TO HAVE A DESIGNATED PLACE TO PRACTICE, PLAY SPORTS, RELAX, HAVE FUN AND SPEND QUALITY TIME WITH FRIENDS.

THE WALL WOULD BE WELCOME FOR ALL AGE GROUPS, ALL DIFFERENT SKILL SETS AND PEOPLE WITH ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF INTERESTS.

AND SO WHAT THE WORLD WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

THIS IS A ONE TO 10 MODEL.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY THREE FEET LONG.

SO THE WALL WOULD ACTUALLY BE 30 FEET LONG AND ABOUT 10 FEET IN HEIGHT.

AND SO THIS IS WHAT I WORKED WITH, WITH MS. AMY BEANLAND, JUST WHAT THE WALL WOULD LOOK LIKE OVER WHAT THE MATERIAL WOULD BE.

SO THE MATERIAL THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WOULD BE CONCRETE.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE WRAPPING OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

WE DESIGNED THIS WITH DIFFERENT GRAPHICS.

AND SO THAT IS NOT FINALIZED.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE IT TO LOOK LIKE.

REALLY QUICKLY, BEFORE I GO INTO THE NEXT TO THE STEPS THAT I'VE ALREADY TAKEN FOR THIS PROJECT, I'D LIKE TO SAY SPECIAL THANKS TO MR. CHRIS TRIBBLE FOR ALL OF HIS TIME AND GUIDANCE WITH HELPING ME THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT THUS FAR.

SO THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT I HAVE ALREADY TAKEN AND HOW I'VE GOTTEN TO BE HERE SO FAR.

SO I'VE HAD A PASSION FOR THIS PROJECT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WITH MY FAMILY AND MY FRIENDS JUST ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND HOW I CAN ACTUALLY CARRY OUT THIS PROJECT THAT I'M SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

SO I'VE ALSO SPOKE WITH PARKS AND REC PRESIDENT.

I'VE HAD A MEETING WITH MR. TERRY LEE AT NORTH PARK, JUST KIND OF DISCUSSING A LOCATION FOR WHERE THIS PROJECT WOULD BE.

I'VE HAD A MEETING WITH MR. CHRIS TRIBLE, MR. MIKE REISNER AND MR. JOHN SLOCUM, AND I'VE HAD A MEETING WITH MS. AMY BEANLAND AGAIN TO BRING MY VISION TO LIFE OF JUST WHAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE.

AND SO NEXT IS THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE PROJECT.

SO HERE I AM SEEKING TO HAVE APPROVAL AND AGREEMENT FROM YOU GUYS, THE CITY COUNCIL.

AFTER THAT, I WOULD WORK WITH THE PARKS AND REC JUST FINALIZING A LOCATION OF WHERE THE PROJECT WOULD ACTUALLY BE.

THEN I WOULD WORK WITH AN ENGINEER JUST TO HAVE A LAID OUT AND MORE DETAILED PLAN OF THE DIMENSIONS AND WHAT THE WALL WOULD LOOK LIKE.

I WOULD FINALIZE A WRAP.

THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD FINALIZE THE EXACT LOOK OF IT WOULD BE.

AND THEN LASTLY, THE COST JUST DEVELOPING THE ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE PROJECT AND JUST THE FUNDING THAT COMES WITH THAT.

SO GETTING DONATIONS, WORKING WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES FOR FUNDRAISING AND THEN POTENTIALLY GETTING 50 PERCENT OF A DISCOUNT AT LOWE'S FOR AN EAGLE PROJECT MATERIAL.

OK, THAT IS ALL I HAVE, SO THANK YOU GUYS, AND I'M OPEN TO ANY FEEDBACK AND SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANACAPRI.

VERY IMPRESSIVE.

I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND SOME QUESTIONS, BUT BEFORE I DO, I HAVE TO ASK YOU, HOW OLD ARE YOU? I JUST TURNED 16.

16? OK, WELL, I GOT TO TELL YOU, LISTENING TO YOU AND SOME OF THE LADY DRAGON LACROSSE PLAYERS, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING HOW POISED AND POLISHED YOU GUYS ARE AT THE AGE OF

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I WAS NOT, AS POISED AND POLISHED AS IT TURNS OUT.

YEAH.

SO FUTURE SOUTHLAKE IS VERY BRIGHT.

SO PHENOMENAL PRESENTATION.

I WOULD EXPECT NOTHING LESS FROM A CICCONE.

AND SO I WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

JUST MAKE SURE THIS IS CLEAR.

SO THIS IS YOUR PROJECT THAT'S PART OF YOU ATTAINING THE EAGLE SCOUT, CORRECT? YES.

THIS IS JUST ONE PART OF GETTING THE EAGLE SCOUT AWARD.

AND REALLY THE GOAL LIKE WHAT YOUR ROLE IN THE PROJECT IS, EVERYTHING FROM THE IDEA TO THE PLANNING, TO THE DESIGN, TO THE BUILD.

I MEAN, IT'S YOU DO THE WHOLE THING START TO FINISH.

CORRECT? YES, SIR.

I'M KIND OF MANAGING THE OVERALL BIG PICTURE OF IT, JUST KIND OF WORKING OUT THE DETAILS AND BRINGING ALL THE PARTS TOGETHER TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE WALL.

YEAH, WELL, IT'S VERY IT'S VERY COOL.

IT'S VERY AMBITIOUS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE ASKING THE CITY TO DO.

THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO BRING TO THE CITY, WHICH IS VERY COOL.

YES.

AND IT ACTUALLY KIND OF DOVETAILS WITH SOME OF THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD.

I WANT TO SAY TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT A WALL BALL, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE HAD A CASE ON SPDC AND WE'RE LOOKING AT MATCHING FUNDS AND SO FORTH.

SO I'LL BE CURIOUS TO LOOK AT THIS AND TALK TO DIRECTOR TRIBBLE AND WORK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, SEE IF WE CAN.

YEAH.

SEE HOW WE CAN HELP.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL, I THINK THE DESIGN IS VERY COOL.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE WORKING WITH ALL THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

DIRECTOR TRIBBLE WILL HELP WITH AS FAR AS THE PLACEMENT AND THE SIZE AND ALL THAT AND MAKING SURE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROUD OF.

BUT YEAH, VERY IMPRESSIVE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? I HAVE A FEW.

YEAH, I DO.

AND FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD JUST ECHO WHAT WHAT MAYOR HUFFMAN JUST SAID.

I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY AMBITIOUS AND A FANTASTIC VISION THAT YOU HAVE.

AND TO COUNCILMAN WILLIAMSON'S PERSPECTIVE, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP A FEW YEARS AGO AND AN ATTEMPT WAS MADE, AND I'M SURE DIRECTOR TRIBBLE GAVE YOU A FAIR AMOUNT OF THAT INSIGHT.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I WOULD GIVE TO YOU AS YOU'RE SEEKING SOME FEEDBACK IS IS TO TAKE THIS TO THE PARKS BOARD FOLKS.

WORK MORE WITH DIRECTOR TRIBBLE, BECAUSE I RECALL WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME AND WHY THIS GOT STUCK IS BECAUSE OF THE COST.

IT WAS A VERY EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR, MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.

AND IT JUST EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST A WALL, IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE A KIND OF A SIMPLE THING TO DO.

THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF ENGINEERING, STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING AND JUST SOME LOGISTICS THAT REQUIRE THE CITY FROM A LIFE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE TO ADOPT.

AND SO IT'S NOT LIKE JUST THROWING A WALL UP.

AND MAYBE YOU'RE ALREADY LEARNING ALL THIS AS YOU'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE.

BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T BE PREPARED THAT THERE WAS MORE THAN JUST PUTTING UP THE WALL.

SO WE WOULD I KNOW THAT THE GIRLS RIGHT BEHIND YOU, THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE HERE NEXT YEAR AND IN THE FUTURE, WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO SEE THIS.

AND I BET YOU I KNOW WHERE YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THE SPACE AT NORTH PARK, WHICH WOULD BE AWESOME.

SO YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WAY TO GET THIS DONE, BECAUSE WE FAILED LAST TIME.

SO I BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN GET IT DONE AND YOU HAVE A NOBLE CAUSE BEHIND YOU WITH ACHIEVING THAT EAGLE SCOUT LEVEL.

SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE AS SUPPORTIVE AS WE CAN IN YOUR EFFORTS.

SO GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH, FOR SURE.

YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.

VERY IMPRESSIVE.

HOW OLD DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO RUN FOR MAYOR? COME ON, I JUST GOT ELECTED.

I KNOW.

TWENTY ONE.

TWENTY ONE.

I DON'T THINK JOHN'S NOT MUCH OLDER THAN THAT, IS HE? TWENTY FOUR.

OK.

GOLLY, I'M TRYING TO GET SOME GRAY HAIR IN THIS BEARD.

I'M DOING MY BEST.

YEAH.

I MEAN VERY IMPRESSIVE.

MY GIRLS WERE IN GIRL SCOUTS, MY SON WAS IN BOY SCOUTS.

I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT SCOUTING AND HOW IT PREPARES YOU GUYS AS YOU GROW AND GET READY FOR THE ADULT WORLD.

AND YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO.

I HOPE AND OBVIOUSLY DIRECTOR TRIBBLE HAS BEEN GUIDING YOU IN THE PROCESS AND IT'D BE EXCITING.

I LIVE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM NORTH PARK, SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS THERE.

YEAH.

SO GOOD LUCK AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US.

YEAH.

SO I GUESS.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO? I'M SORRY.

SO, SO IMPRESSIVE, DOESN'T DO IT JUSTICE.

WOW, MY FIRST THOUGHT, THOUGH, IS YOU COULD DO THIS.

THIS IS YOUR IDEA.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS YOU COULD HAVE HAD.

YOU COULD HAVE DONE THIS AT HOME.

THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE THIS WITH YOUR COMMUNITY IS IT'S WHAT'S IMPRESSIVE TO ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY DAUGHTER PUTS UP A WALL AND IT'S BASICALLY THE SIDE OF OUR HOUSE AND SHE'S BAMMING, BAMMING AND BAMMING.

AND IT'S NOT LIKE THE COMMUNITY CAN COME TO OUR HOUSE.

AND, YOU KNOW, SHE DOES VOLLEYBALL AND SOFTBALL AND ALL THE OTHER SPORTS, TOO, AND HAVING SOMETHING WHERE MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN MULTIPLE SPORTS OR THE GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHO ENJOY MULTIPLE SPORTS CAN BE A PART OF.

I THINK IT JUST HIGHLIGHTS YOURSELF.

BUT THIS IS A, IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE KID ALL AROUND.

I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW HER OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS JUST SO THIS DOESN'T SURPRISE ME

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SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

MY QUESTION, THOUGH, TO.

DIRECTOR TRIBBLE IS, WOULD THIS REQUIRE A SEPARATE WALL TO BE BUILT? FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I THINK ABOUT YOU SAY IT WAS A LARGE STRUCTURE WITH A VERY HIGH, VERY WIDE WALL.

COULD THAT BE USED LIKE THE SIDE OF A BUILDING? THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKING AT IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD, MENTIONED THERE AT NORTH PARK.

SO IT WOULD BE AN ENGINEERED WALL, I MEAN, IT'S A LARGE STRUCTURE, WOULD REQUIRE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING, ET CETERA.

AND SO THE LOCATION, I THINK THAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO WHERE WE LOOKED PREVIOUSLY.

SO WE WOULD WORK WITH HER ON KIND OF FINALIZING THE SITE, TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH PARK BOARD.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE ENGINEER DRAWINGS.

THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT SPDC MATCHING FUNDS, WHICH IS HOW THAT ORIGINAL BALL WALL WAS GOING TO BE DONE.

SO I THINK SHE'S PREPARED TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF RAISING SOME MONEY TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROJECT.

OK, OK, WELL, THANK YOU.

I COMMEND YOU FOR DOING THIS.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A BUNCH OF PROJECTS YOU COULD HAVE UNDERTAKEN, AND THIS IS EMBLEMATIC OF THE QUALITY OF KIDS WE HAVE IN SOUTHLAKE.

SO THANK YOU.

AND I WANT TO CHIME IN REAL QUICK BECAUSE I WAS TEXTING YOUR MOM EARLIER AND I'M JUST SO PROUD OF YOU.

YOU DID AN AMAZING JOB.

I LOVE YOUR PROJECT.

I LOVE YOUR ENTHUSIASM.

I LOVE YOUR LITTLE POWERPOINT YOU PUT TOGETHER.

I JUST THINK YOU ARE A CLASS ACT AND I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF YOUR WALL.

I THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT IDEA AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT COME TO LIFE.

SO AND CONGRATULATIONS ON ATTAINING EAGLE SCOUT.

THAT'S THERE'S SOME STATISTIC OUT THERE LIKE FORTY PERCENT OF U.S.

PRESIDENTS OR HAVE THEIR EAGLE SCOUT OR SOMETHING.

SO IT'S A REALLY, REALLY COOL ACCOMPLISHMENT.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I GUESS, ARE WE I SEE WE HAVE A MOTION HERE, BUT IS THIS JUST A RECOMMENDATION OR IS OR THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM.

OK, JUST MAKING SURE HERE.

YEAH.

NOT SURE WHERE WE WOULD GO WITH THIS.

YES.

JUST GIVE ME DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE.

DIRECTION AND FEEDBACK ALL POSITIVE.

SO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS BILL ARE GOING TO BE INVITED TO THE GROUNDBREAKING.

I HOPE SO.

YEAH.

YES.

AND AND BY THE WAY, THAT GROUP BEHIND YOU ALL HAVE PARENTS THAT I KNOW HAD PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED CONTRIBUTING TO THE EFFORTS OF THAT WALL BALL.

SO YOU'VE GOT SOME FISH IN YOUR BOWL, SO TO SPEAK.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

YEAH.

WELL, THANK YOU, ANACAPRI, GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OK, WITH THAT, WE GOING TO CALL WORK SESSION ITEM NUMBER SIX.

[6. Discuss all items on tonight's agenda. No action will be taken and each item will be considered during the Regular Session.]

SO FIRST, WE HAVE ITEM 4A, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 4TH, 2021 COUNCIL MEETING AND THE MAY 11TH, 2021 SPECIAL AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 4B, THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-013, APPOINTING CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE SPDC AND THE CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE.

ITEM 4C, APPROVAL OF AN ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH DAN IBOM ENGINEERING COMPANY.

ITEM 4D,RENEW AN ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH FREISEN NICHOLS' FOR THE CONTINUATION OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE WIDENING OF NORTH WHITE CHAPEL.

ITEM NUMBER 4E, RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-019, DENYING ONCOR ELECTRICAL DELIVERY COMPANY'S APPLICATION FOR APPROVAL TO AMEND ITS DISTRIBUTION COST RECOVERY FACTOR.

ITEM 4F, APPROVAL OF FY 2020-2021 METRO PORT [INAUDIBLE] LOCAL AGREEMENTS.

ITEM NUMBER 4G, RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-022, A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 18-0508, MEMBERSHIP FOR THE MAYOR'S ALLIANCE FOR UNITY AND CULTURE.

ITEM NUMBER 4H, RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-023, APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE MAYOR'S ALLIANCE.

ITEM NUMBER 4I, SB 21-0006 SIGN VARIANCE FOR SCHROEDER ORTHODONTICS.

ITEM NUMBER, WE'VE GOT A LOT TONIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 4J, SB 21-0007 A SIGN VARIANCE FOR A S UITE SALON.

ITEM NUMBER, SO THAT'S IT.

SO THEN ITEM NUMBER, THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM 4K HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS ITEM BE TABLED TO THE JUNE 1ST, 2021 MEETING TO ALLOW SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO PREPARE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO PUT ON CONSENT FOR TONIGHT? WELL OK THEN NO ACTION IS TAKEN.

WE WILL BE TAKING THIS UP DURING REGULAR SESSION AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TAKE A PICTURE WITH THE LADY DRAGONS.

RIGHT, BUT BEFORE YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

YOU'LL NEED TO IDENTIFY NAMES FOR ITEMS 4B AND ALSO FOR 4H.

PERFECT.

SHOULD WE DO THAT NOW OR SHOULD WE DO THAT LATER? WE CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.

WE'LL DO THAT WHEN WE COME BACK IN A SECOND.

OK, WELL, WITH THAT, IF LADY DRAGON LACROSSE

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OK.

OK.

OK, AND THEN FOR THE RECORD, AFTER THE PHOTO, WE'LL BE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION

[2. A. Executive Session]

[1. Call to order.]

[3. REPORTS:]

NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, WHICH IS SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION, AND SO OF COURSE, AS WE CELEBRATE THIS NATIONALLY, WE WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE OUR OWN TEAM WHO WORKS IN THESE CRITICAL AREAS AND CELEBRATE THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS THROUGHOUT THE PAST YEAR.

2021 ACTUALLY MARKS THE 61ST ANNIVERSARY OF THE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK CELEBRATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S EASY TO FORGET THE WORK THAT THESE MEN AND WOMEN DO BECAUSE THEY DO IT SO WONDERFULLY AND BEHIND THE SCENES.

BUT IF YOU TAKE A MOMENT, CLOSE YOUR EYES AND SORT OF IMAGINE A DAY WITHOUT THE SERVICES THAT THESE MEN AND WOMEN PROVIDE, IT STARTS TO HIT HOME AND YOU BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

THE TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE ON A DAILY BASIS FOR PROVIDING THOSE CRITICAL SERVICES, AS I MENTIONED, THEY DELIVER WATER TO YOUR HOMES.

THEY MAKE SURE THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM KEEPS RUNNING ALL VERY IMPORTANT CRITICAL FUNCTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE IN THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION AND DRAINAGE FACILITIES, MANAGEMENT, ADMINISTRATION, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE COVERED BY THIS DEPARTMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THORNY ISSUES.

A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE COMPLICATED SERVICES THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE.

THEY HAVE TO WORK THROUGH A LOT OF CUSTOMER ISSUES ALONG THE WAY.

BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THEY ALWAYS DO THAT WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND WITH A GREAT ATTITUDE.

AND WE ARE REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WAY THAT THEY GO ABOUT THEIR WORK FOR THE CITY.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU JUST SOME PICTURES FROM THE PAST FEW YEARS OF OUR TEAM.

YOU'LL SEE SOME IN THE LOWER RIGHT DEALING WITH THE SNOWMAGEDDON THIS YEAR AND UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR DIRECTOR, ROB COHEN AND OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, JACK THOMPSON, WE SEE EXAMPLES OF THE GREAT WORK THAT THIS TEAM DOES REALLY EVERY DAY.

THEY DESERVE OUR THANKS EVERY DAY, BUT ESPECIALLY DURING THIS WEEK THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE TO RECOGNIZE THEM.

SO ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY STAFF, I HOPE YOU'LL JOIN ME IN CELEBRATING THEM AND SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK THEY DO.

THEY DEFINITELY DESERVE THE RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION.

AND WE JUST COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF THE PROFESSIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE MINDED STAFF THAT WE HAVE HERE AT THE CITY THAT PROVIDES THESE SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.

SO WE JUST GIVE THEM A QUICK ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

WELL, THANK YOU, ALISON, AND YES, ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, DIRECTOR COHEN, THANK YOU GUYS.

AND THANK YOUR WHOLE TEAM.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING AT THE OP CENTER PROBABLY HALF A DOZEN TIMES OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS.

AND IT'S AMAZING THE PROFESSIONALISM OF YOUR TEAM, THE HARD WORK NONE OF US WILL EVER FORGET OR STOP BEING THANKFUL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL PUT IN DURING SNOWMAGEDDON.

IT WAS INCREDIBLE AND PARTICULARLY YOUR WATER TEAM AND HOW HARD THEY WORKED TO TRY TO GET THE WATER FLOWING AND TRY TO GET THE PIPES UNFROZEN.

IT WAS PRETTY IT WAS PRETTY SPECTACULAR.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK EMPLOYEES GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY, CERTAINLY PUBLIC WORKS IS RIGHT AT THE VERY TOP OF THE LIST.

PLUS, YOU GUYS HAVE THE BEST HATS.

I'M JUST SAYING REALLY, REALLY GOOD HATS.

SO THANK YOU.

BUT IN SERIOUSNESS, ROB, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THERE YOU GO.

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COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON.

VERY NICE.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS BEFORE WE DO A PICTURE? YES, MAYOR, I WOULD JUST ADD I MEAN, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING WE LOVE EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN OUR CITY.

OUR EMPLOYEES ARE JUST INVALUABLE.

BUT THIS IS SPECIFIC TO PUBLIC WORKS.

AND WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS IMAGINE NOT HAVING WATER, NOT HAVING SEWER AND HAVING BAD ROADWAYS.

JUST SEE HOW LONG THE CITY FUNCTIONS WITHOUT ROADS, WITHOUT WATER AND SEWER.

WE GOT A LITTLE FLAVOR OF THAT THIS WINTER.

SO THESE FOLKS ARE JUST TIRELESS WORKERS BEHIND THE SCENES.

I CAME OUT OF MY HOUSE THE OTHER DAY AND SAW TWO OF THEM LAYING ON THEIR STOMACHS WITH THEIR UP TO THEIR SHOULDER UNDERGROUND.

WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR UNDER THERE.

AND THEY JUST DO THIS EVERY DAY.

THEY JUST MOVE QUIETLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND WHEN YOU TURN THE WATER ON, THE WATER TURNS ON.

AND WHEN YOU FLUSH THE TOILET, THE TOILET FLUSHES.

I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST INVALUABLE.

SO THANK YOU.

SO I'LL SHARE A QUICK, FUNNY STORY.

SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN APPRECIATED, APPRECIATIVE OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS, EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS DOING THE JOB A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE HAD ME AND MY NEIGHBOR HAD A SHE HAD A BROKEN SPRINKLER HEAD AND PUBLIC WORKS, HAD BEEN OUT DOING SOME WORK.

AND MY NEIGHBOR STARTED SCREAMING.

I THINK PUBLIC WORKS BROKE THE SPRINKLER HEAD.

AND I SAID, NO, THEY WOULD NEVER DO THAT.

OH, THE SPRINKLER HEAD WAS NOT BROKEN BEFORE THEN.

I GOT ON THE GROUND, DUG IT UP, AND IT WAS IT WAS A MORE HAD BROKEN IT.

AND I WAS LIKE, OH, PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.

SO I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND DIRECTOR COHEN.

IT'S BEEN SO MANY TIMES I'VE HAD QUESTIONS FOR HIM AND HE'S ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL IN HIS RESPONSE AND HIS CUSTOMER SERVICE ETHIC IS JUST EXEMPLARY.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM DO.

SO IT'S REALLY A REFLECTION OF THE GREAT CITY WE LIVE IN.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO ECHO THAT, THAT DIRECTOR COHEN, IT'S A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU EVERY TIME WE'VE HAD TO REACH OUT FOR ANYTHING.

YOU'VE BEEN QUICK TO RESPOND, THE CONSUMMATE GENTLEMAN AND A TRUE PROFESSIONAL.

AND THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT YOUR TEAM IS AS EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE AS THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY HAVE YOU AT THE HELM.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I WAS ABLE TO GO TOUR THE FACILITIES RECENTLY, AND IT WAS WONDERFUL TO MEET WITH A LOT OF THE STAFF OUT THERE.

AND IT WAS PRETTY INCREDIBLE TO SEE JUST HOW MUCH EQUIPMENT AND BUILDINGS AND ALL OF IT WAS OUT THERE AND JUST TRY TO TAKE IN ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF DO.

IT'S PRETTY AMAZING AND IT'S WONDERFUL HOW YOU TAKE CARE OF US AND OUR CITY.

SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO IN LIEU OF READING ALL THE WHEREASES IN THE WHO ASES AND EVERYTHING, LET ME JUST SAY FROM THE BOTTOM OF ALL OF OUR HEARTS, THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

AND THEREFORE I, MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN ON BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY DESIGNATE THE WEEK OF MAY 16TH THROUGH THE 22ND, 2021 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

AND I URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ACTIVITIES, EVENTS AND CEREMONIES DESIGNED TO PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS AND TO RECOGNIZE THE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO PROTECTING OUR HEALTH, SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU, GUYS.

SO, ROB, IF YOU COME DOWN AND ANY OTHER, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR TEAM, WE'LL GET A PHOTO WITH COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, SO COUNCIL REVIEWED THE LIST OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS IN THE WORK SESSION.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

BUT I DO WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM 4K HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS ITEM BE TABLED TO THE JUNE 1ST, 2021 MEETING.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE APPOINTMENTS AS PART OF CONSENT AS WELL.

OK, SO WE ARE APPOINTING WHICH ONE IS FIRST.

SO ITEM 4B IS A RESOLUTION WHERE YOU'LL BE APPOINTING REPRESENTATIVES FROM CITY COUNCIL TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, THE SOUTHLAKE PARKS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THE SOUTHLAKE 2035 CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE.

OK, SO FOR THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, WE HAVE THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND

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SPDC.

WE HAVE SHAWN MCCASKILL AND I BOTH ROLLED OFF.

CHAD, YOU ARE STAYING ON AND I BELIEVE WE ARE APPOINTING, REMIND ME.

WE ARE APPOINTING RANDY WILLIAMSON AND KATHY TALLEY.

AND IS THAT? AND WE ALREADY HAVE RONNELL SMITH ON THE COMMITTEE.

WHO IS GOING TO BE REAPPOINTED UNLESS THE OBJECTS.

THERE YOU GO.

AND THEN FOR CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE AND ACTUALLY FOR EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE.

LET ME DESCRIBE WHAT CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE DOES.

A CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE IS THE FIRST STEP IN OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

SO WE'VE MAYOR HILL SET THAT UP PROBABLY FIVE YEARS AGO AND NOW SOME OF IT SOME OF US TO SIT ON IT.

SO THERE ARE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, ALSO PARK BOARD MEMBER, AS WELL AS SOME PUBLIC MEMBERS.

AND THE GOAL OF THE CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD, NOT ONLY IN OUR MAIN CORRIDORS, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND TO GIVE DEVELOPERS SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK.

AND A LOT OF TIMES THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AREN'T FULLY BAKED.

SO THE FEEDBACK IS INCOMPREHENSIVE LIKE YOU SEE IN SPIN OR P&Z OR COUNCIL.

BUT IT'S REALLY OUR FIRST SHOT AT GIVING A DEVELOPER FEEDBACK BEFORE THEY PURSUE A PROJECT AND REALLY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY.

I CAN TELL YOU WE'VE WE'VE SEEN HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF CASES COME THROUGH CORRIDOR COMMITTEE AND FEWER THAN I WANT TO SAY, FEWER THAN 50 PERCENT, MAYBE FEWER THAN 30 PERCENT ACTUALLY REACH PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL.

SO IT DOES ITS JOB.

IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT COMMITTEE.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD AND INTELLIGENT FOLKS WHO CONTINUE TO SERVE ON THAT.

SO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE GOING TO BE ON CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE.

YES.

SO WE HAVE WITH SEAN MCCASKILL COMING OFF, WE HAVE AMY TORRES-LEPP BEING RECOMMENDED TO REPLACE MR. MCCASKILL.

AND WITH YOU, MAYOR HUFFMAN COMING OFF, WE HAVE KATHY TALLEY.

AND WE HAVE ALSO ADDING RANDY ROBBINS.

REAPPOINTING MYSELF.

REAPPOINTING YOURSELF.

UNLESS THERE ARE OBJECTIONS, THAT SOUNDS FINE.

SO THAT TAKES CARE OF4B.

4H IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-023, APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE MAYOR'S ALLIANCE FOR UNITY AND CULTURE.

SO A NOTE ON THE MAYOR'S ALLIANCE.

SO WE HAVE, I THINK FORTY MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, SOME OF YOU MAY IN THE AUDIENCE MAY BE PART OF THE COMMITTEE.

IN FACT, I KNOW SOME SPOUSES OF SOME AUDIENCE MEMBERS ARE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE.

WHAT THE MAYOR'S ALLIANCE IS GOING TO, IT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN USED FOR AND WHAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE USED FOR IS TO TRY TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY BUILDING AND RELATIONSHIP BUILDING.

SO WE ARE EXPANDING THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE MAYOR'S ALLIANCE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD GROUP OF CITIZENS REPRESENTED.

AND I WILL SAY THIS, WHETHER IT'S THE MAYOR'S ALLIANCE OR ANY OF OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, IF ANY OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE OR LISTENING AT HOME, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF VIEWERS AT HOME, AT LEAST MY PARENTS, I THINK, ARE WATCHING THIS MEETING.

IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN SERVING ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO VOLUNTEER AND I PROMISE WE WILL PUT YOU TO WORK.

SO WITH THAT, I'VE GOT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE MAYOR'S ALLIANCE.

I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND WE APPOINT RENITA SLOAN, LILY WONG, CHRISTINE KEMP, KAREN SHERMAN, APARNA ZOLANI AND ERICA WILLIS, WHO HAVE ALL EXPRESSED INTEREST IN SERVING .

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY NAMES YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE LIST WHO'VE SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS? OK, LIKE I SAID, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY INTEREST, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

OK, SO THAT TAKES CARE OF 4H.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER APPOINTMENT ITEMS? SURE.

OK.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT, I WILL CALL FOR A MOTION ON THE CONSENT ITEMS. OK, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS NUMBER 4A THROUGH FOUR 4K OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

NOTING 4B THAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN, MAYOR PRO TEM CHAD PATTON AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM RANDY WILLIAMSON FOR THE SOUTHLAKE PARKS AND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, RECOMMENDING RANDY WILLIAMSON TO BE ADDED, RON L.

SMITH TO BE REAPPOINTED, KATHY TALLEY TO BE APPOINTED AND CHAD PATTON TO BE REAPPOINTED.

AND FOR THE 2030 CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE, ADDING AMY TORRES-LEPP AND REPLACING SEAN MCCASKILL ADDING KATHY TALLEY AND REPLACING JOHN HUFFMAN, REAPPOINTING CHAD PAYTON AND ADDING RANDY ROBBINS.

ALSO NOTING 4I APPROVING SV 21-006, WHICH IS A TIME VARIANCE FOR SCHROEDER ORTHODONTICS LOCATED AT 1480 CORPORATE CIRCLE AND ALLOWING THE EXISTING SIGN ON THE UPPER STORY OF THE

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ALSO NOTING THAT THE SIGN WILL BE LED, HALO LIT SIGN AND THE REQUIREMENT OF THE ORIGINAL SIGN VARIANCE FOR THIS BUILDING AS SV 20-007 AND THAT ANY ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE ON THE FIRST FLOOR WILL NOT BE ALLOWED WITHOUT RETURNING TO THE SIGN BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL FOR VARIANCE APPROVALS REMAIN IN PLACE.

OK, ALSO NOTING 4H THAT THE MAYOR ALLIANCE FOR UNITY AND CULTURE WILL BE ADDING KAREN SHERMAN.

ERICA WILLIS.

CHRISTINE KEMP.

RENITA SLOAN AND APARNA ZOLANI.

ALSO NOTING THAT 4J WE APPROVED SV 21-007, THE SIGNVARIANCE FOR A SUITE SALON LOCATED AT 251 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, ALLOWING A A THREE FOOT, FOUR INCH BY FOUR FOOT TWO INCH ACRYLIC PANEL DIRECTORY SIGN ON THE FRONT FACADE OF THE BUILDING NEAR THE SALON ENTRANCE, AS INDICATED IN THE MAY 11TH, 2021 STAFF REPORT.

AND ALSO NOTING 4K, WE ARE TABLING ZA 21-0016, WHICH IS THE SITE PLANNED FOR METHODIST SOUTHLAKE HOSPITAL INDENTION POND ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOTS 1R AND 2R BLOCK ONE IN THE SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL DISTRICT.

IT'S QUITE A MOTION.

WELL DONE, SIR.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

AND THAT MOTION PASSES 7-0.

WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, OUR PUBLIC FORUM.

SO THE PUBLIC FORUM PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO BRING ITEMS FORWARD THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE REGULAR AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO'S HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS NOT ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA? OK, SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM.

AND WITH THAT, WE WILL CALL ITEM NUMBER 6A, ORDINANCE NUMBER 40-781, ZA 21-0020,

[6.A. Ordinance No. 480-781, (ZA21-0020), 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Site Plan for Magnolia Southlake on property described as Tract 11 and a portion of Tract 11E, Thomas Easter Survey Abstract No. 474, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 320 S. Nolen Drive, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "AG" Agricultural District and "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District. Requested Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

DIRECTOR BAKER? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS YOUR SECOND READING ON THIS ITEM.

YOU CONSIDERED THIS ITEM AT YOUR LAST MEETING.

JUST A QUICK RECAP.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR MAGNOLIA SOUTHLAKE ON PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 320 S.

NOLEN.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS SEEK APPROVAL OF ZONING, CHANGE THE SITE PLAN TO CONSTRUCT THREE, TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS.

THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 25,600 SQUARE FEET AND THREE LOTS ON APPROXIMATELY 1.87 ACRES.

THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS.

WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME OF THE EXTENSION OF VILLAGE CENTER.

THE APPLICANT WILL BE CONSTRUCTING THE SIDEWALK FOR THAT PORTION THAT HAS BEEN BUILT AND THEN ESCROWING THE REMAINDER OF THE SIDEWALK TO THE TIME THAT VILLAGE CENTER IS CONSTRUCTED BACK TO THE WEST.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

IT IS THREE LOTS.

YOU SEE THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGES.

THERE IS ONE VARIANCE REQUEST, BECAUSE THE VILLAGE CENTER HAS NOT BEEN EXTENDED ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST BOUNDARY.

LOT 2 CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE SOME STREET FRONTAGE AND THEN LOT THREE WILL NOT.

ONCE THE STREET IS BUILT, LOT TWO WILL NOT REQUIRE THE VARIANCE, BUT AT THIS TIME IT WILL, SO BOTH LOTS TWO AND THREE REQUIRE A VARIANCE AT THIS TIME.

IN TERMS OF THE ISSUES DISCUSSED AT COUNCIL, THE MOTION INCLUDED REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT PRESENT MORE OPTIONS FOR THE ROOF, MATERIALS AND TYPES.

THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO RETAIN THE OPTION FOR THE COMPOSITE ROOF SHINGLES PRESENTED AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING LAST TIME AND THEN REQUEST FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RENDERING LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FUTURE SOUTH VILLA CENTER DRIVE, WITH RESPECT TO SCREENING THE PARKING LOT, THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED FOUR ADDITIONAL LITTLE GEM MAGNOLIA'S.

THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

IN ADDITION TO THE PLANNING THAT PROPOSE IN THE PRESERVATION OF THE EXISTING TREES, THE NEW PLANTINGS ARE INDICATED BY THE YELLOW CIRCLES.

AND THIS IS THE OPTIONS ON THE ROOF MATERIALS THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO KEEP.

I'LL BE GLAD TO GO BACK INTO THE OTHER SLIDES THAT WE DISCUSSED THE FIRST READING, BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO, OK.

THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR BAKER.

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OH, SORRY, YES, A LITTLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.

GOOD EVENING.

1903 CENTRAL DRIVE, BEDFORD, TEXAS.

AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING WON'T GO THROUGH THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROJECT, BUT THERE'S TWO ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED ON THE FIRST READING THAT WE WANTED TO BRING BACK IN TOUCH WITH.

THE FIRST BEING THE ROOFING MATERIAL, THE SECOND BEING THE LANDSCAPING.

JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK.

LIKE I SAID, THOSE WERE THE TWO ITEMS OF CONCERN.

SO WE DID DO RESEARCH.

WE DIDN'T JUST IGNORE YOUR COMMENT THERE AND TRY TO KEEP THAT IN.

AND WHAT WE DID WAS THAT WE ACTUALLY WENT BACK BECAUSE WE KNOW WE WERE ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING ON WHERE THIS OTHER COMPOSITE SHINGLE WAS IN PLACE.

AND SO WE LOOKED IN AND IF YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE ON THE MAP, THERE'S FOUR OF THE LITTLE SUBDIVISION OF THE OFFICE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE SURROUNDING US HAVE THE SAME COMPOSITE ROOF SHINGLES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE.

GEORGETOWN PARK, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO VILLAGE CENTER DRIVE.

AND THEN JUST DOWN NOLEN STREET, THERE'S THREE OTHER FACILITIES, OFFICE FACILITIES THAT HAVE THE EXACT SAME TYPE ROOFING AND SHINGLING THAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING ON THAT SITE WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS GEORGETOWN PARK.

LIKE WE SAID, THAT'S JUST ACROSS THE STREET.

AND WE HAVE SOME NEWER DEVELOPMENTS HERE.

WE HAVE THE SILICON DRIVE CEMENT OFFICE PART.

AND THEN ALSO JUST AS WE WERE THIS IS CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD.

WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND ALSO DROVE UP AND DOWN 114.

WE HAVE THE NEW EBBY HALLIDAY OFFICE HERE, A COUPLE OF THE OTHER DOCTORS OFFICES UP AND DOWN, 1709 THAT JUST KIND OF SHOW WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING THERE.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN THAT REQUEST MAINLY AGAIN, NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT GIVING THE TIME AND THE EFFORTS OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS ARE JUST HARD TO COME BY.

AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN THAT REQUEST.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAD WAS THE LANDSCAPING AND STAFF DID A GREAT JOB JUST PRESENTING THAT.

IT WAS REQUESTED THAT WE GO BACK, LOOK AT OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN AND SEE WHAT WE CAN WE ADDED.

SO WE DID ADD SOME TREES.

THERE WAS A COUPLE OF GAPS THAT WERE RIGHT THERE.

THIS IS VERY SIMILAR.

THE OTHER THING WE DID IS JUST SHOW OUR SITE.

WE HAVE THE NEW OFFICE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET.

THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE LANDSCAPING IS, IT'S PUTTING ACROSS THE STREET.

AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH VERY SIMILAR WITH THE SHRUB ROW FOR THE HEDGE LINE.

AND THEY HAVE TREES.

I THINK OUR TREES ARE ACTUALLY SPACED A LITTLE BIT CLOSER THAN THEIRS, BUT IT'S IN NATURE.

IT'S GOING TO LOOK VERY SIMILAR ALONG THE WAY.

AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THAT'S ACTUALLY ALONG NOLEN DRIVE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIMILAR TYPE THING.

MS. TALLEY, YOU ALSO REQUESTED ME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE JMI THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

I DID GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.

WE DO HAVE IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS A LITTLE BIT MORE TREES.

BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD A, WE ACTUALLY INCREASED THE BUFFER THERE DUE TO THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY AND THE FACT THAT WE WERE RETAINING TREES.

SO A LOT OF THAT SPACING WAS DUE TO EXISTING TREES THAT WERE THERE.

BUT IN THE GRAND SCHEME, THEY STILL HAD JUST A HEADLIGHT SCREENING, A SHRUB ROW, AND THEN WE HAD THOSE HEDGES THAT WERE THERE.

AND SO WITH THAT CONCLUDES MY QUICK PRESENTATION.

BUT WE'RE HERE FOR ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON, YOU HAD SOME THOUGHTS ON THE ROOF? WAS IT? YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT THAT OR WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? I'M RESOLVED, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND THEN LANDSCAPING? ANY THOUGHTS ON THE LANDSCAPING? AND CHANGES LOOK PRETTY GOOD.

IT'S GOOD THE FIRST TIME.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPER? OK, THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

ITEM 6A IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OK, SEEING NO, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 6A? YES, MAYOR.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6A, OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-781, KNOWN AS ZA 21-002A SECOND READING, ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR MAGNOLIA SOUTHLAKE ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACT 11 AND A PORTION OF TRACK 11E, THE THOMAS EASTER SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER F474, LOCATED AT 320 SOUTH NOLEN

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NOTING APPROVING A VARIANCE TO SECTION 801.A OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE NUMBER 483 AS AMENDED, WHICH REQUIRES EVERY [INAUDIBLE] ABUT ON A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STREET BUILDINGS, TWO AND THREE ARE REQUIRED TO FRONT ON A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STREET, BUILDING THREE FRONTS ON A COMMON ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE SOUTH AND BUILDING TWO FRONTS ON THE FUTURE SOUTH VILLAGE CENTER DRIVE ALSO NOTING A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK IS REQUIRED ALONG THE CONSTRUCTED SOUTH VILLAGE CENTER DRIVE.

THE APPLICANT HAS NOTED THAT FUNDS WILL BE ESCROWED FOR THE SIDEWALK ON THE FUTURE SOUTH VILLAGE CENTER.

DRIVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU.

SIR.

THERE'S A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THERE'S A SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM PASSES 7-0.

CONGRATULATIONS.

WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO CALL ITEM 6B, ZA

[6.B. ZA21-0025, Site Plan for The Garden District Residences on property described as Lot 1 and a portion of Lot 2, Block 20, Garden District and Phase C Brownstones, an addition to the City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 301 and 351 Central Ave., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "DT" Downtown District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

SO BEFORE DIRECTOR BAKER GETS STARTED, I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS.

YOU GUYS ARE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KIND OF HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THE HISTORY, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE.

AND DIRECTOR BAKER WILL DISCUSS, BUT ALSO ABOUT THE PROCESS OF HOW HOW THESE CASES GET TO WHERE THEY ARE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DIFFERENT ENTITIES INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

WE'VE WE HAVE SPEN, WHICH A LOT OF YOU I KNOW HAVE ATTENDED AND WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE WE HAVE P&Z.

P&Z, IS THE RECOMMENDING BODY TO CITY COUNCIL.

A LOT OF PEOPLE UP HERE HAVE SAT ON THE PNC.

THEY DON'T CAST LEGALLY BINDING VOTES.

THEY CAST RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL THEN CONSIDERS AS PART OF OUR PROCESS.

SO CITY COUNCIL, WHAT WE DO, WHAT OUR JOB IS, IS TO CAST THOSE LEGALLY BINDING VOTES ABOUT DEVELOPMENT CASES LIKE THIS.

SO AS MAYOR, MY JOB IS TO RUN THE MEETING AND MANAGE THE MEETING.

SO, YOU KNOW, ANY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT LIKE THIS ONE HAS THE TENDENCY TO HAVE HIGH EMOTION BOTH WAYS.

SO WHAT I'D SAY IS LET'S WHEN IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, EVERYONE'S GOING TO HAVE THREE MINUTES THAT LIGHT THERE ON THE PODIUM GOES TO YELLOW WITH A MINUTE LEFT AND THEN IT'LL GO TO RED WHEN WE'RE UP.

SO I JUST ASK YOU TO RESPECT THE THREE MINUTES SO EVERYONE CAN GET THROUGH THEIR COMMENTS AND DISCUSSIONS.

THE OTHER THING IS WE DON'T, THIS IS LIKE A COURTROOM.

SO I'D ASK, PLEASE, NO CLAPPING OR BOOING OR SIDE CONVERSATIONS.

I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IT.

AND PLEASE ADDRESS US.

DON'T ADDRESS THE DEVELOPER OR THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS OR STAFF.

SO YOU JUST DIRECT ALL YOUR COMMENTS TO US AND THAT'LL BE PERFECT.

SO AFTER CITY STAFF PRESENTS THE FACTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CASE, THE DEVELOPER WILL COME UP AGAIN, KIND OF LIKE A COURTROOM.

HE HAS THE TIME HE NEEDS TO KIND OF PRESENT THE CASE THAT'S BEFORE US.

SO HE'LL TALK THROUGH AND HE'LL GO THROUGH HIS POWERPOINT.

HE'LL DISCUSS ALL THE PERTINENT ISSUES.

AT THAT POINT, COUNCIL IS GOING TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS AND TRY TO DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE PERTINENT ISSUES.

ONCE THAT DISCUSSION'S FINISHED, WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

SO WITH THAT, I'D ASKED DIRECTOR BAKER TO COME ON UP.

WE HAVE A VIDEO.

THIS VIDEO WAS SHOT IN THE TOWN SQUARE.

AND THE GOAL IS TO REALLY PROVIDE A HISTORY OF THE SITE BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPLEX CASE, AS YOU'LL SEE.

I WANT YOU ALL TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

WHEN I RAN, I PROMISED TRANSPARENCY.

AND THIS IS PART OF THAT PROMISE.

I WANT YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY BEHIND THIS SITE.

SO YOU HAVE INFORMATION, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN CITIZENS HAVE INFORMATION AND HAVE GOOD INFORMATION, YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO HELP US MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.

SO WITH THAT, DIRECTOR BAKER, PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY.

HEY, SOUTHLAKE, IT'S MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN.

LISTEN, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I GOT MOST OFTEN ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WAS, ARE THERE MORE RESIDENTIAL UNITS PROPOSED FOR TOWN SQUARE.

THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.

AND WE ALL KNOW THE RESIDENTIAL IN TOWN SQUARE, SOME OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PROPERTIES IN TOWN.

BUT FOR THE LONG ANSWER, I NEED YOU TO WALK WITH ME.

THESE ARE THE TOWN SQUARE BROWNSTONES, THE FIRST PHASE OF RESIDENTIAL IN TOWN SQUARE.

FORTY THREE UNITS BUILT IN THE MID TO LATE 2000S AND SOME OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL REAL ESTATE IN TOWN.

NOW, SINCE THEN, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO ADDITIONS TO THE TOWN SQUARE RESIDENTIAL PIECE, THE PARKING RESIDENCES AND THE GARDEN DISTRICT.

SO LET'S TALK PARKVIEW FIRST.

THE PARKVIEW RESIDENCES THAT YOU CAN SEE OVER MY SHOULDER IS A LUXURY CONDOMINIUM PROJECT THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IN 2013.

IT CONSISTS OF THIRTY SIX GORGEOUS UNITS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN AND LOVING LIFE IN THE TOWN SQUARE.

NOW, GET THIS, THE REAL ESTATE STARTS AT A MILLION DOLLARS APIECE.

SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT.

IT'S THE MOST PRICEY RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE IN TOWN.

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AND YOU GUYS BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME MOVING PARTS HERE THAT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF.

THE GARDEN DISTRICT WAS FIRST APPROVED IN 2011 WITH A CONCEPT PLAN THAT INCLUDED 10 BUILDINGS WITH ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY RESIDENCES AND 10 BROWNSTONES FOR A TOTAL OF ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

AND THEN IN 2013, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A REVISED CONCEPT PLAN THAT REDUCED THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS DOWN TO THREE REDUCED RESIDENCES DOWN TO 60 AND INCREASED THE BROWNSTONES TO THIRTY THREE.

THIS CHANGE BROUGHT THE TOTAL GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTIAL UNITS DOWN FROM ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY TO NINETY THREE.

AND HERE ARE THE BROWNSTONES THAT WERE APPROVED AS PART OF THAT 2013 CONCEPT PLAN.

NOW WHAT ABOUT THE REST? NOW, THIS IS THE SITE OF THE 60 GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENCES THAT WERE APPROVED AS PART OF THAT 2013 CONCEPT PLAN.

NOW, UNDER SOUTHLAKE ZONING PROCESS, A DEVELOPER WITH AN APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN HAS TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE SITE PLAN BEFORE THE DEVELOPER CAN START CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

NOW, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS ASKED TO GET APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THIS NEXT STEP.

NOW, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE 2013 CONCEPT PLAN, INCLUDING MOVING FROM THREE BUILDINGS DOWN TO TWO, MOVING FROM 60 RESIDENCES DOWN TO FIFTY EIGHT, WHICH WILL RESULT IN SOME ADDITIONAL PARK SPACE.

NOW, IMPORTANTLY, HE'S ALSO ASKED THE CITY TO TAKE OVER THOSE MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR THE PARK SPACE THAT HE'S PROPOSING.

NOW,A LITTLE ZONING 101 FOR YOU.

THE CONCEPT PLAN APPROVED IN 2013 ESTABLISHED THE RESIDENTIAL USE AND GAVE THE DEVELOPER THE RIGHT TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL ON THIS LOT.

NOTHING WE CAN DO TO CHANGE THAT.

THE FINAL STEP IN THE PROCESS IS THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL, WHICH WE'RE CONSIDERING NOW.

NOW, IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS THE LAST LOT IN TOWN SQUARE WHERE THE DEVELOPER HAS THE RIGHT TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL AND ANYTHING ELSE WOULD REQUIRE A ZONING CHANGE FROM CITY COUNCIL.

NOW, PLANNING AND ZONING APPROVED THIS OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL, 6-1.

AND WE'RE CONSIDERING IT AT OUR MAY 18TH MEETING.

I REALLY HOPE YOU CAN JOIN US.

I BELIEVE IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE HAS THE FACTS AND STAYS INFORMED ABOUT THE PROCESS.

WE VALUE YOUR INPUT GREATLY.

USE THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT WWW.CITYOFSOUTHLAKE.COM TO READ THE CASE INFORMATION, WATCH P&Z COMMISSION HEARINGS AND ALSO VIEW THE UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HEY, THANKS FOR COMING ON A WALK WITH ME TODAY, SOUTHLAKE.

WE ARE BETTER COMMUNITY AND A BETTER COUNCIL WHEN THE CITIZENS ARE ENGAGED.

PLEASE STAY ENGAGED WITH US.

COME OUT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON MAY 18TH.

LET US KNOW HOW YOU FEEL.

HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.

DIRECTOR BAKER, BEFORE YOU START, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WALKING BACKWARDS AND TALKING AT THE SAME TIME IS VERY DIFFICULT.

JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE.

MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, TOUGH, TOUGH VIDEO TO FOLLOW THERE, BUT THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS THE APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN FOR THE GARDEN DISTRICT.

YOU'LL BE SEEING TWO OPTIONS THIS EVENING.

AN OPTION A IS A OPTION WHICH CONSISTS OF 58 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN TWO FOUR STORY BUILDINGS.

THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO SENT AN OPTION B, WHICH IS 60 GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTS IN THREE BUILDINGS.

AND THAT'LL BE IDENTIFIED AS OPTION B DURING YOUR PRESENTATION PROPERTIES LOCATED 351 AND 301 CENTRAL AVENUE.

BEFORE WE GET IN TO THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, I'D LIKE TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE GARDEN DISTRICT ZONING AND JUST ADD A FEW COMMENTS TO YOUR VIDEO, MAYOR.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE OPTIONS SITE PLAN AND THEN THE OPTION B SITE PLAN AND THEN STAFF WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE LAND USE PLAN IS TOWN CENTER.

THE ZONING IS DT, DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, AS SHOWN IN THE EXHIBITS.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A GEOGRAPHIC PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING, THE GARDEN DISTRICT IS IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA THAT IS OUTLINED IN THE BLUE, BY THE BLUE LINE.

THE SITE PLAN IS GERMANE TO THE PORTION OF THE EXHIBIT THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE TWO OPTIONS FOR THE SITE PLAN.

THE INITIAL REQUEST DID INCLUDE THE POSSIBLE DEDICATION OF A PARK IDENTIFIED AS THE GROVE PARK, WHICH IS PART OF THE SITE PLAN.

AND THEN THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR COUNCIL TO ACCEPT STEBBINS PARK, WHICH IS TO

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THAT REQUEST HAS BEEN REMOVED BY THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME AND IS NO LONGER PART OF THIS APPLICATION.

THE GARDEN DISTRICT AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING IS ABOUT TWO POINT TWO ACRES IN SIZE.

THE ZONING DISTRICT WAS CREATED IN 2003.

PRIOR TO THAT, THE TOWN SQUARE WAS UNDER WHAT WAS CALLED A NON RESIDENTIAL PUDI.

AND IN 2003, THE ZONING DISTRICT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

AND AS PART OF THAT ADOPTION, IT INCLUDED THE OPTION FOR A RESIDENTIAL IN THE TOWN SQUARE, AND THAT WOULD BE THROUGH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

SO IT ALLOWED A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACH, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED THE THE THE THE CONDO TYPE RESIDENTS THAT YOU SEE IN THE PARK.

FEW RESIDENTS WERE ALL PERMITTED IN THAT TO 2003 ZONING DISTRICT AND THE USE TABLE ARE SET UP IN THE DISTRICT TO ALLOW THE RESIDENTIAL INTO TOWN SQUARE.

ALSO THAT A APPLICATION THAT RAN CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ADOPTION IN 2003 WAS AN AMENDMENT WAS THE SUPPY WHICH ALLOWED THE BROWNSTOWN.

SO THE PHASE ONE BROWNSTONES, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN 2003, ALLOWED UP TO 115 SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

THE PLAN ALLOWED 127 LOTS, 96 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, BUT 18 OPTION LOTS FOR LIVE WORK UNITS FOR 115.

THERE WERE 13 COMMON AREA LOTS THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE NORTHERN PART OF WHAT WE CALL THE GARDEN DISTRICT.

TODAY, YOU CAN SEE PARK RIDGE BOULEVARD.

HERE IS THE THE UPPER PART OF THIS ORIGINAL BROWNSTONE APPROVAL BACK IN 2013.

IN 2011, THE GARDEN DISTRICT WAS CREATED IN THE GARDEN DISTRICT AS A CARVE OUT IN THE TOWN SQUARE.

SO IS THAT ROUGHLY SEVEN ACRE BLUE LINE THAT WE SAW IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE IS THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY OF THE GARDEN DISTRICT.

AND IN THE GARDEN DISTRICT, THE GARDEN DISTRICT HAS ITS OWN SPECIFIC REGULATIONS THAT APPLY TO THIS ROUGHLY SEVEN ACRES.

AND ONE OF THOSE IS THE PERMISSION OF THE THE GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTS.

AND AS PART OF THAT AMENDMENT TO THE DT DISTRICT BACK IN 2011, THERE WAS ALSO A CONCEPT PLAN AND ZONING THAT TOOK PLACE THAT APPROVED THIS CONCEPT PLAN ON THE SLIDE, WHICH HAD 130 GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENCE AND 10 BROWNSTONES IN THE CONFIGURATION SHOWN ON THE SLIDE.

AND THAT WAS THE GOVERNING ZONING DOCUMENT IN PLACE UNTIL 2013.

AT THAT TIME, AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS, THE THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT THAT WAS SHOWN AS PART OF THAT 2011 APPROVAL.

IN 2013, THE APPLICANT CAME BACK AND REVISED THIS PORTION OF THE GARDEN DISTRICT AREA AND REDUCED THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS THAT WERE APPROVED IN 2011 FROM TEN TO THREE UNITS IN THIS CONFIGURATION HERE.

SO IT INCLUDED SIXTY GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTS REDUCED FROM 130.

THE BROWNSTONES WENT FROM 10 TO 33 FOR A TOTAL OF 93 UNITS IN THE GARDEN DISTRICT AREA.

JUST TO THE WEST OF THIS AREA, ALSO A APPLICATION SUP FOR THE PARKVIEW RESIDENCE RAN CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS APPLICATION.

AND IF YOU RECALL, WHEN I SAID THE DT DISTRICT WAS CREATED, THAT'S WHEN THAT PRODUCT WAS CREATED BACK IN 2003.

BUT IT NEEDED AN SUP APPROVAL IN ORDER TO TAKE PLACE.

THAT'S WHEN THE PARKVIEW RESIDENCE WERE ALSO APPROVED DURING 2013 DURING THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE GARDEN DISTRICT.

THIS IS THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE THREE BUILDING.

IT SHOWED BUILDING A 24 UNITS, BUILDING B 22 AND BUILDING C 14 FOR A TOTAL OF 60.

THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS JUST OVER A HUNDRED THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS THE TYPICAL CONCEPT FOR THE BUILDING TYPE IN TERMS OF ITS FORM AND ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THAT 2013 REQUEST.

IN ADDITION, A VARIANCE WAS ALLOWED FOR A FOURTH FLOOR ON THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

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SO THAT'S THE FRAMEWORK THAT YOU WORKED UNDER AS COUNCIL TO EVALUATE THE SITE PLAN THAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

AND AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE TO SITE PLANS FOR CONSIDERATION AND OPTION A AND OPTION B.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS APPLICATION AND WHAT YOU SAW ROUGHLY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

THE REQUEST FOR THE THE MULTIFAMILY THAT WAS JUST SOUTH OF DPS HEADQUARTERS IS THAT PROPERTY IS ZONED C 3 AND SO THE ZONING CHANGE HAD TO TAKE PLACE FROM C3 TO DT TO ALLOW THAT PRODUCT TO BE APPROVED OR RECEIVE ENTITLEMENTS.

SO THAT WAS A ZONING CASE.

THE BIG DIFFERENCE HERE THIS EVENING.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN.

THE ZONING IS ALREADY IN PLACE.

THAT ENTITLEMENT WAS GIVEN BACK INITIALLY IN 2011 AND THEN MODIFIED IN 2013, WHICH IS THE FRAMEWORK THAT COUNCIL IS WORKING UNDER.

THE APPLICATION THAT YOU SAW BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2020, THAT WAS A REZONING REQUEST WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN TO CREATE A NEW RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT AT THE LOCATION JUST SOUTH OF DPS.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

AND WE'RE GOING TO REFER TO THIS AS OPTION A.

THIS IS THE TWO BUILDING CONCEPT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TWO BUILDINGS SHOWN HERE, THE BROWNSTONES TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST HAVE PRIMARILY BEEN CONSTRUCTED, THERE ARE A COUPLE LOTS STILL UNDEVELOPED IN THE BROWNSTONES.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR THE OPTION A.

IT SHOWS THE 30 UNITS AND THE 28 UNITS.

THE OPTION A HAS TWO LESS UNITS.

THE SQUARE FOOTAGE REDUCED ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FEET.

IN ADDITION, THERE IS A AN OPEN SPACE, WHICH WOULD BE A PRIVATE PARK AREA TO THE EAST, WHICH SHOW SOME WALKING TRAILS AND SOME AMENITIES INCLUDED.

IF THIS OPTION IS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BUILD THAT THAT PARK AMENITY.

BUT THE REQUEST THAT THERE'D BE A PUBLIC PARK IN THE CITY TAKE THAT OVER MAINTAIN HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE APPLICATION, AS WELL AS A REQUEST FOR WHAT IS KNOWN AS STEBBINS PARK TO THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING A HAS ALSO BEEN REMOVED.

THIS IS JUST A MORE DETAILED SITE PLAN AND THE LANDSCAPE OPTIONS.

THIS IS A BUILDING PERSPECTIVE FOR THE OPTION A AND THIS IS THE GARAGE.

IN THE INITIAL ENTITLEMENT, THE APPLICANT DID INDICATE THAT THERE BE UNDERGROUND PARKING AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION.

IN THIS EXHIBIT, YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE OF THE TWO BUILDINGS.

THE GARAGE IS CONTINUOUS BELOW EACH OF THE TWO STRUCTURES AS SHOWN WITH PRIVATE ELEVATORS, SEMIPRIVATE ELEVATORS LEADING UP TO THE RESIDENCE.

A COUPLE OTHER BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

THIS IS THE OPTION B.

THE DIFFERENCE HERE, OBVIOUSLY, IS THREE BUILDINGS VERSUS TWO, YOU DON'T HAVE THE PRIVATE PARK AMENITY TO THE EAST.

THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS IS 60 VERSUS 58, WHICH IS ON THE OPTION A SITE PLAN.

THE FLOOR AREA IS JUST SLIGHTLY LESS THAN WHAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2013 , JUST ANOTHER THREE BUILDING CONFIGURATION.

THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE BUILDING STYLE WILL BE SIMILAR TO THOSE ELEVATIONS SHOWN IN THE OPTION A SITE PLAN, THE SAME MATERIALS BRICK.

THERE WILL BE SOME UNDERGROUND PARKING.

THE APPLICANT WILL GO OVER THE DETAILS OF THAT IN HIS PRESENTATION ON WHAT THAT EXACTLY LOOK LIKE.

THESE ARE SOME INSPIRATION PHOTOS THAT THE APPLICANT'S PROVIDED ON THE THAT EXPRESS ON SOME OF THE OUTDOOR AMENITIES, SOME OF THE PARK FEATURES THAT WILL BE INCLUDED WITH THE PROPOSAL.

IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT HAS DISCUSSED SOME PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION ASPECTS, WHICH INCLUDE CROSSWALKS TO FEDERAL WAY MEANDERING SIDEWALKS AND THEY DO MENTION POTENTIALLY OF SOME PUBLIC OR SOME ART IN THE FUTURE THAT COULD BE INSTALLED IN

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THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING BACK TOWARD THE PARKVIEW RESIDENCE AND THEN THE BROWNSTONES THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE GARDEN DISTRICT, JUST A COUPLE OTHER PHOTOS.

THIS IS A COMPARISON OF THE THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2013 AND THE OPTION A THAT YOU CAN SEE THE COMPARISON AND DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE SITE PLAN.

AND THEN THE OPTION B, YOU SEE THE CONCEPT PLAN APPROVED IN 2013 AND THEN THE PROPOSED OPTION B SITE PLAN.

THE QUESTION IS RAISED, WHY IS A SAFE PLAN COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL? AS MENTIONED THE ZONING WAS ENTITLED BACK IN 2013.

THAT'S THE FRAMEWORK THAT YOU'RE WORKING UNDER AS A CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU GO TO THE DT DISTRICT, THE REGULATIONS HIGHLIGHT A SITE PLAN MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE UNDERLYING CONCEPT PLAN PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE.

AND THAT MEANS ONCE YOU GET A BUILDING PERMIT, THEN YOU MAY PROCEED TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE DT DISTRICT THAT THAT SITE PLAN BE APPROVED, HENCE THE APPLICANT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, SEEKING THAT APPROVAL.

P AND Z RECOMMENDED APPROVAL S6-1.

THEY ONLY SAW THE OPTION A, THEY THEY DID NOT SEE THE OPTION B THAT'S PRESENTED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND HE'LL GIVE SOME MORE DETAILS BOTH ON THE OPTIONS A AND THE OPTION B SITE PLAN.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR BAKER, BEFORE I ASK COUNCIL TO IF THEY HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR YOU, I JUST MAKE REALLY, REALLY CLEAR BECAUSE YOU TOUCHED ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A ZONING CHANGE AND A SITE PLAN.

THE ZONING CHANGE WHICH WAS DONE IN THIS CASE, I BELIEVE, IN 2011, CORRECT? INITIALLY, YES.

INITIALLY ESTABLISHED THE RESIDENTIAL USE ON THIS TRACT OF LAND, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

OK, SO THAT ZONING CHANGE ON THIS PROPERTY OR ANY OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY IS REALLY WHAT ESTABLISHES THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTIES RIGHT TO USE IT IN A CERTAIN WAY.

C3 GIVES THEM COMMERCIAL.

I1 MIGHT GIVE THEM AN INDUSTRIAL.

BUT THIS ZONING, WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR TEN YEARS, GIVES THE OWNER THE RIGHT TO USE IT IN A RESIDENTIAL MANNER PURSUANT TO CERTAIN RULES? YES, SIR, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

AND THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A SITE PLAN, CORRECT? A SITE PLAN, REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS DOES THE PLAN THAT WE ARE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED CONFORM WITH THAT CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED TEN YEARS AGO? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

THERE IS NO VARIANCES WITH THE APPLICATION.

SO BASICALLY, YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT CONFORMANCE OF THAT SITE PLAN TO THE ADOPTED CONCEPT PLAN OR THE FRAMEWORK THAT I KEEP REFERRING TO.

YEAH, NOT CHANGING THE USE, JUST LOOKING AT THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING IN THE SITE.

AND THAT IS CORRECT.

SIXTY UNITS WERE APPROVED BACK IN 2013.

OK, I GOT IT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR SETH AT THIS TIME? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL 100 PERCENT CLEAR.

SO IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, DIRECTOR BAKER, IN 2011 THE ZONING OCCURRED AS A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT ALLOWED FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.

AT THAT TIME, TEN BUILDINGS WERE APPROVED WITH THE TOTAL OF, I THINK, ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY RESIDENTS.

TWO YEARS LATER, THAT COUNCIL, WHICH I WAS A MEMBER OF, REDUCE THAT BY THIRTY, THIRTY SEVEN FORTY SEVEN UNITS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YES, SIR.

SO THAT'S.

OK.

SO YEAH.

YOU HAD IT THERE.

OK.

FORTY SEVEN UNITS, THAT'S THIRTY FIVE PERCENT REDUCTION BASICALLY AND AN INCREASE IN GREEN SPACE.

SO THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY AFTER THE'11 DECISION, THAT COUNCIL REDUCED THE DENSITY BY THIRTY FIVE PERCENT AND INCREASED GREEN SPACE AND NOW THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY DECREASE OR AT LEAST STAY THE SAME.

BUT EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT'S COME TO COUNCIL SINCE THE 2011 WHEN THAT SHIP SAILED, EVERY OPPORTUNITY HAS BEEN TO REDUCE DENSITY.

AND THAT'S IN AND THE COUNCIL HAS TAKEN THAT OPPORTUNITY ON EVERY OCCASION, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

YOU ARTICULATED IT WELL.

THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL ZONING CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2011 WITH THE TEN BUILDING CONFIGURATION THAT WAS ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY UNITS, 130 WITH A GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTS, TEN WITH THE BROWNSTONES AND THEN 2013 YOU COULD SEE IN THE COMPARISON ON THE THE TABLE, ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT.

THE THREE BUILDING CONFIGURATION WHICH REDUCED THE GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTS FROM ONE 130 TO 60, BROWNSTONES DID INCREASE TWENTY THREE, BUT THE TOTAL DECREASE IN THE GARDEN UNITS WAS ONE FORTY TO NINETY THREE.

AND CAN YOU BACK UP THEN TO THAT 2011 GRAPHIC?

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THE 2013 CASE NEVER WAS PROCESSED OR CAME FORWARD, THIS WOULD BE THE DRIVING, THE ZONING IN PLACE, THE CONCEPT PLAN IN PLACE, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD BE USING AS YOUR FRAMEWORK THIS EVENING VERSUS THE 2013.

OK.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SETH? OK, I'LL CALL THE APPLICANT UP.

MR. BLISS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME ISSUES STANDING UP.

ARE YOU GOING TO SIT DOWN FOR THE PRESENTATION? PERFECT.

JUST THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

OK.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME PULLING THIS TOGETHER, BUT WE TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS A, IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ALLOWING US TO STEP UP THE QUALITY OF WHAT WE CAN DELIVER TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'VE LEARNED A LOT BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING BROWNSTONES AND BUYING THESE CONDOS.

THEY'RE ACTIVE, THEY'RE AFFLUENT, THEY TRAVEL AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A LIFESTYLE.

AND FOR AS MANY TIMES AS I'VE BEEN BEFORE COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT TOWN SQUARE AND LIVING IN A DOWNTOWN, I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT IT WASN'T UNTIL MY HOUSE FLOODED AND I WOUND UP RENTING IN PARKVIEW THAT I STARTED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND JUST HOW COOL IT IS.

I CAN WALK TO 58 PLACES FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE.

I CAN WALK THERE 58.

I GOT THREE GROCERY STORES I CAN WALK TO.

I GOT DOCTORS, DENTISTS, I GOT EVERYTHING I NEED AND I DON'T HAVE TO GET IN MY CAR.

SO THIS IS UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME, THIS IS OUR LAST ENTITLEMENT.

THIS IS THE LAST PLACE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST ZONING TO DO SOMETHING.

AND WE WANTED TO MAKE IT REALLY SPECIAL BECAUSE WE KNOW THE CHALLENGES OF TRYING TO GET ANYTHING ELSE DONE.

SO THIS APPLICATION TWO BUILDINGS, 58 UNITS CAN DO A GREAT JOB OF WALKING YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

THIS IS WORLD CLASS ARCHITECTURE, AND I DON'T SAY THAT JUST AS A DEVELOPER PROMOTE DAVID SCHWARTZ HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE BEST ARCHITECTS ON THE PLANET IN CREATING PLACES FOR PEOPLE.

AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL CAPPER ON THE GARDEN DISTRICT.

THE ELIMINATION OF THAT THIRD BUILDING TOOK A LOT OF WORK AND WE HAD TO GIVE UP A COUPLE OF UNITS TO GET THERE.

WE MAY HAVE TO GIVE UP A COUPLE MORE IN THE FINAL PLANNING, BUT FOR GOOD REASONS, BECAUSE WE MAY COMBINE A COUPLE OF UNITS FOR SOME LARGER PENTHOUSE UNITS ON BOTH BUILDINGS.

THE SAME THING, BY THE WAY, HAS BEEN OCCURRING IN THE GARDEN DISTRICT BROWNSTONES.

WE WERE APPROVED FOR THIRTY THREE.

WE'RE CURRENTLY AT THIRTY BECAUSE WE'VE COMBINED SOME LOTS.

I'VE GOT FIVE SLOTS LEFT.

I EXPECT THOSE ARE MORE LIKELY GOING TO BE BUILT AS THREE CUSTOM HOMES.

SO I THINK THAT 30 WILL DROP AGAIN TO TWENTY EIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOT A DEVELOPER THAT IS CHASING MAXIMUM DENSITY TO, YOU KNOW, SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN PUT ON THE GROUND.

WE ARE REALLY ALL ABOUT CREATING PLACES, CREATING EXPERIENCES AND REALLY SERVING THE COMMUNITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

THIS PRODUCT., THE NUMBER ONE, IF YOU DID HAVE A PIE AND SEE WHO SHOWS UP.

THE NUMBER ONE GROUP THAT SHOWS UP HERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SOUTHLAKE, THEY'RE DOWNSIZING.

ON A DENSITY POINT IN 2011, IF YOU ADD IT IN EVERYTHING, BROWNSTONES, GARDEN DISTRICT, WE WERE APPROVED FOR ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

COUNCIL'S ACTION IN 2013, OR EXCUSE ME, WE WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2011 FOR THE 130 PLUS THE FORTY PLUS FORTY FIVE BROWNSTONES.

2013 REDUCED THAT TO THE 60 CONDOS.

I'LL ADD THE FORTY IN PARKVIEW AS PART OF THAT AND THEN THIRTY THREE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

SO WE REDUCED DENSITY IN 2013 TO ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY EIGHT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN COMBINING SOME OF THE LOTS.

WE TOOK A FEW UNITS OUT OF PARKVIEW, WE'RE NOW AT ABOUT ONE SIXTY NINE IF THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED TONIGHT.

SO DENSITY HAS BEEN STEADILY DROPPING AND THIS BUT AS I MENTIONED THIS TO BE THE LAST ONE THAT WE'VE GOT.

THE ELIMINATION OF THAT THIRD BUILDING CREATES A REALLY NEAT PUBLIC PARK OPPORTUNITY, ALMOST HALF AN ACRE, ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS STEBBINS PARK, BUT DIFFERENT IN THAT IT WILL CELEBRATE THE OAK TREES THAT WERE NATIVE TO THIS SITE.

I MENTIONED IT'S THE SAME KIND OF BUYERS, SAME KIND OF RESIDENT AS WHAT WE HAVE IN TOWN

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I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION VERY QUICKLY.

WE'RE KEEPING THE 1500 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM.

THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT A CHALLENGE, THIS BUYER TENDS TO WANT A LITTLE MORE SPACE.

OUR SWEET SPOT SEEMS TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SIXTEEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED SQUARE FEET FOR MOST BUYERS.

FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO GO BIGGER, THE PENTHOUSES GET TO 3000 SQUARE FEET PLUS.

THESE BUILDINGS ENJOY DIRECT ACCESS.

WE'VE WORKED NOT ONLY WITH THE COMMUNITY, BUT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON SAFETY ISSUES IN TERMS OF HOW WE ORGANIZE THESE.

I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THAT HERE IN A SECOND.

AND AS WE'VE DONE THIS TWO BUILDING PLAN, WE HAVE ALWAYS KEPT THE CONCEPT PLAN APPROVAL CLOSE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

DAVID SCHWARTZ, THE ARCHITECT, THESE ARE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS, BUT ON THE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE STEP THAT ONE DOWN TO THREE STORIES.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE 60 UNITS, BUT WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT THREE STORY BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THREE STORY BROWNSTONE SO THAT IT WAS IN SCALE WITH THE REST OF THE STREET.

WE'VE STAYED WITHIN OUR 52 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT, SO WE FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT THE ARRANGEMENT OF THESE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE SITE.

THEY'RE FOUR SIDED BRICK.

WE WEREN'T ORIGINALLY GOING TO DO A RENDERING TAKING FROM PARKVIEW, LOOKING BACK TOWARD OR SORRY, PARK RIDGE, LOOKING BACK TOWARD PARKVIEW, BUT I WAS GETTING SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY I WAS HIDING THE BACK OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE WE JUST HAD THE FRONT SHOTS.

YOU CAN TELL THIS ISN'T THE BACK OF A BUILDING.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER FRONT.

THIS BUILDING IS FOUR SIDED.

WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE THAT WE CAN HIDE A BAD SIDE.

SO THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS ALL THE WAY AROUND.

WHAT WE ALSO HAD TO INSTRUCT THE RENDERER TO DO.

THE INITIAL INSTRUCTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR RENDERING WAS USE THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE IN THE STREETS, USE THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE IN THE GROVE PARK.

AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT LOOKING AT THE BUILDING.

THIS IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE.

AND THE FIRST RENDERING CAME THROUGH.

YOU COULDN'T SEE THE BUILDING.

THERE WERE SO MANY TREES THAT THEY JUST HID LITERALLY ABOUT 90 PERCENT OF THE BUILDING, YOU JUST GOT LITTLE GLIMPSES.

THAT'S WHAT THE GROVE DOES FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT REALLY CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT IN A DOWNTOWN, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT IN THE CITY.

YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE OUT IN A IN A COUNTRY HOME.

AS YOU WALK OUT AND YOU'VE GOT THIS OPEN SPACE, WE CAN MAKE THE THIRD BUILDING WORK HERE AND IT WILL BE A MUCH MORE URBAN FOOTPRINT.

I THINK IT'LL BE NICE IN ITS OWN WAY.

BUT PERSONALLY, IF I WAS LIVING HERE, I'D WANT THIS.

IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC PARK, WHAT WE CALL A TERRACE, WHICH IS IF I CAN FIND IT DOWN HERE WITH [INAUDIBLE] WHICH IS DOWN HERE, THE TERRACE IS ESSENTIALLY THE TOP OF THE ROOF OF THE GARAGE.

LESS THE BUILDING, WHICH IS SET BACK ABOUT 35 FEET.

SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 35 FEET ON TOP OF THAT GARAGE THAT WE CAN CREATE, BASICALLY A SERIES OF OUTDOOR LIVING ROOMS AND SOCIAL SPACES TO SOCIALIZE FIREPIT.

THIS WILL BE PRIVATE TO THE RESIDENTS.

BUT AS I'M SEEING AND HEARING FROM OTHER PLACES LIKE PARKVIEW, WE'VE GOT PRIVATE TERRACES FOR FOUR PENTHOUSES IN PARKVIEW, TWO ON EACH END.

AND YOU WALK UP STEPS FROM YOUR HOME AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR OWN LITTLE PRIVATE AREA TO HANG OUT.

AND THE FIRST COMMENT THAT CAME BACK FROM THE PENTHOUSE BUYER THAT WENT UP TO CHECK IT OUT WHEN IT WAS DONE WAS, WELL, HOW DO I GET TO TALK TO MY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE OVER THERE ON THAT OTHER PART OF THE ROOF? IT WAS PRIVATE, IT WAS ENCLOSED, IT WASN'T CONNECTED.

WELL, THEY WANT TO SOCIALIZE.

AND I SUSPECT THAT ALTHOUGH THIS IS THE TERRACE HERE IS A PRIVATE AREA, I HAVE A FEELING THE GATES WILL BE OPEN.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO TALK TO THEIR NEIGHBORS.

THAT'S THE NATURE OF THIS DISTRICT.

IT'S A GREAT NETWORKING OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MEET FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE DOGS.

THE DOGS GET ALONG.

IT'S KIND OF A FUN PLACE TO LIVE.

I CAN SHOW YOU SOME OF THESE INSPIRATIONAL IMAGES, AGAIN, IT'S ALL ABOUT CREATING NATURAL SPACE OUTDOORS AT THE SAME TIME, THINKING OF IT IN A PROGRAM SENSE, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO SIT? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO MEET? WE'RE EVEN LOOKING AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUTSIDE OFFICE WORK.

WE SAW THAT IN COVID, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE THEIR LAPTOPS OUT.

THEY WANT TO WORK OUTSIDE.

BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WORK TO CREATE THE SPACE TO ALLOW THEM TO WORK.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO TO BRING THESE AMENITIES TO THE GARDEN DISTRICT AND THE TOWN SQUARE, AND TO THE COMMUNITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

HERE'S A PICTURE I MENTIONED, YOU'VE GOT SEMIPRIVATE ELEVATOR LOBBY, SO THERE'S INSTEAD OF THE TYPICAL ONE ELEVATOR BANK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING, WE'VE GOT TWO ELEVATOR BANKS, ONE ON EACH SIDE, AND YOU WILL COME UP FROM THE GARAGE.

AND DEPENDING ON WHETHER IN THIS PICTURE, IF YOU LIVE IN UNIT 2C OR 2D, YOU WILL ACCESS THIS ELEVATOR FROM THE TOP.

IF YOU LIVE IN 2F OR 2E, YOU'LL EXIT FROM THE BOTTOM.

AND THAT MEANS THERE'S LITERALLY TWO UNITS IN THIS BUILDING THAT ARE SHARING ONE LOBBY.

I DON'T SEE PEOPLE VERY MUCH IN THE ELEVATORS AT PARKVIEW AND THERE'S THIRTY SIX

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THIS IS GOING TO FEEL VERY PRIVATE AND EXCLUSIVE.

WE ADDED A SERVICE CORRIDOR BOTH FOR STORAGE AND FOR TRASH.

MAIN REASON FOR THE SERVICE CORRIDOR WAS IN TALKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WITHOUT THIS SERVICE CORRIDOR, THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DEPLOY SIX FIREMEN TO CHECK THE BUILDING OUT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WAY TO GET FROM ONE END OF THE BUILDING TO THE OTHER WITHOUT SOME SORT OF FIRE CORRIDOR.

SO THIS IS A, IT'S LIKE A SERVICE CORRIDOR.

IT'S ALSO PRINCIPALLY A FIRE CORRIDOR.

THE OTHER THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS BUILDING, THE WAY IT'S ORGANIZED, YOU GET A LOT OF LIGHT AND AIR INTO THESE HOMES.

IT'S DESIGNED WITH THAT IN MIND.

SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY MUCH LIKE PARKVIEW IN THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDING AND YET DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF HOW IT LIVES.

ONE QUESTION I'VE GOTTEN IS WHETHER THIS CIRCULAR DRIVE COMING OFF MEETING STREET CONTINUES DOWN TO PARKER AND THE ANSWER IS NO, IT'S NOT A THROUGH STREET.

THIS IS A CIRCULAR ENTRY SO THAT WHEN YOUR UBER COMES TO PICK YOU UP TO GO TO THE AIRPORT OR A FRIEND DROPS YOU OFF AFTER YOU'VE HAD A MEAL AT MAXI'S, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE GARAGE.

THEY CAN DROP YOU OFF HERE.

YOU CAN GO IN THE FRONT DOOR AND THEN GRAB YOUR ELEVATOR AND GO UP FROM THE FIRST FLOOR.

BUT THIS IS FOR BUILDINGS A AND B, FOR DROP OFF AND CONVENIENCE.

EACH HOME IN THESE BUILDINGS WILL HAVE TWO PARKING SPACES RESERVED IN THE UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE.

DIRECTOR BAKER SHOWED YOU A PICTURE OF THAT GARAGE, BUT IT'S FULLY UNDERNEATH THESE TWO BUILDINGS.

AND LET ME GO BACK TO A PREVIOUS IMAGE HERE.

WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THE GARAGE, WHICH IS THIS SECTION OF BRICK WITH METAL GRATES AS ACCENTS COMING IN.

AND YOU SEE AS YOU MOVE EAST, IT DISAPPEARS AS YOU COME AROUND THE CORNER.

IT'S MORE AND MORE EXPOSED TO THE TIME YOU GET DOWN TO THE SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE AND IT'S FULLY EXPOSED AND LOOKS JUST LIKE PARKVIEW.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S A GARAGE, AS YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET, I'VE HEARD THIS FROM FROM PEOPLE COMING BACK FROM [INAUDIBLE] WHO THOUGHT PEOPLE LIVED THERE AND THEN THEY REALIZED, OH, CRAP, THERE'S A CAR IN THERE.

BUT IT'S DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE A BUILDING.

IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE YOUR TYPICAL GARAGE, BUT THE GRADE ALLOWS US TO HIDE A GOOD BIT OF THIS GARAGE.

MORE THAN HALF OF THIS GARAGE IS UNDERGROUND.

SO WE THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO PARK AND PRESERVE THE QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

DIRECTOR BAKER MENTIONED EARLIER WE'VE WITHDRAWN THE REQUEST FOR DEDICATION OF STEBBINS PARK IN THE GROVE.

THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I FIELDED BOTH FROM THE PUBLIC SIDE AND FROM THE PRIVATE SIDE ON STEBBINS PARK.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE RESIDENTS, QUITE A FEW RESIDENTS THAT STILL WANT TO HAVE THIS DIALOG WITH THE CITY.

WE GET AT STEBBINS PARK A LOT OF PUBLIC TRAFFIC.

THE FIREWORKS ON THE ON 2019, THERE WAS A ROPED OFF AREA FOR RESIDENTS, BUT THE REST OF THE PARK WAS FREE FOR WHOEVER WANTED TO SHOW UP.

AND IT'S KIND OF A HIGH POINT ON THE SITE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP AND THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE GOT TO PAY FOR ALL THE CLEANUP.

AND SO THAT DIALOG NOW HAS BEEN OPENED.

BUT I THINK IT IS BETTER FOR THE RESIDENTS HAVE THAT DIALOG DIRECTLY WITH THE CITY THAN FOR ME AS A DEVELOPER TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S TIE THIS TO THIS APPLICATION.

I LOVE THIS PARK.

I LOVE THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE.

I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL HAVE A GREAT CONVERSATION AND HOPEFULLY FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

THIS GOES BACK LITERALLY TO THE INTERSECTION OF FEDERAL WAY AND CENTRAL AVENUE.

I REMEMBER THE FIRST CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THIS CAME FROM BOB PRICE.

HE CALLED ME UP ONE DAY AND SAID, HEY, DO YOU HAVE TIME FOR A WALK? AS YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW, I WALK TOWN SQUARE A LOT.

SO I MET HIM DOWN HERE AND HE SAID, I'M CONCERNED THAT WHEN YOU DEVELOP THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, THAT CENTRAL IS GOING TO BECOME A LITTLE UNSAFE.

AND I STARTED LAUGHING.

I SAID, WELL, CENTRAL, WE COULD CONSIDER IS ALREADY A LITTLE UNSAFE, BECAUSE IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE EARLY IN THE MORNING OR LATE AT NIGHT WHEN SOMEBODY HAD TOO MUCH CAFFEINE OR TRYING TO GET HOME TOO FAST, YOU SEE SOME FAST TRAFFIC COMING DOWN CENTRAL.

AND I'M MUCH MORE AWARE OF IT NOW BECAUSE I WALK A VERY SMALL DOG IS DAMN NEAR INVISIBLE, BUT YOU GOT TO REALLY LOOK BOTH WAYS AND MAKE SURE NOT ONLY YOU DON'T SEE SOMETHING, BUT YOU DON'T HEAR SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY CAN BE ON YOU IN A FLASH.

SO THE IDEA HERE WAS FIRST DRIVEN BY SAFETY, GOING BACK TO MY CONVERSATIONS WITH BOB.

SECOND PART WAS WE WANT TO ENHANCE WALKABILITY.

THERE'S NO REAL WAY TO CROSS SAFELY FROM THE PARKVIEW SIDE TO THE STEBBINS PARK SIDE OTHER THAN TO JAYWALK BECAUSE THERE'S NO STRIPED CROSSWALK.

THERE'S THE RAMPS DON'T LINE UP.

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THAT'S BY DESIGN TO SHORTEN THE DISTANCE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO CROSS SAFELY FROM ONE CURB TO THE OTHER.

THAT MEANDERING ALSO GIVES US A LANDSCAPE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A MOMENT SO THAT WHEN YOU LOOK FROM THE GRAND AVENUE DISTRICT BACK TOWARD THIS DISTRICT, YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING THAT'LL GRAB YOUR EYE AND MAKE YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT NEXT TRIP.

THAT'S PART OF THE MAGIC OF TOWN SQUARE AS PEOPLE COME HERE FOR ONE THING AND THEY WIND UP WALKING IN AND SEEING THREE OR FOUR OTHER THINGS JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE INTERESTING.

BUT WE THINK THAT THESE ENHANCEMENTS WILL REALLY CREATE A BETTER CONNECTED TOWN SQUARE AND IMPORTANTLY MAKE IT A SAFER PLACE TO LIVE.

IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF SCULPTURES WE'VE HAD IN MIND.

I LOVE THIS GUY FROM SANTA FE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IT IS.

EVER SINCE I WAS A KID, I LIKE WATCHING THINGS THAT SPIN TOPS WHATEVER.

IF YOU HAVE SEEN THESE KINETIC WIND SCULPTURES ARE KIND OF COOL.

SO THE IDEA HERE, WE'VE GOT TWO LOCATIONS WE THINK THEY COULD WORK.

ONE IS AT THE TERMINUS OF FEDERAL WAY AND CENTRAL, THE OTHERS IN THE ROUNDABOUT DROP OFF AREA BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA OF WHAT WE HAD IN MIND.

SO I'VE FIELDED THIS REQUEST FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE.

WELL, I SEE THE TWO BUILDING PLAN, BUT DID YOU AT LEAST LOOK AT THE THREE BUILDING PLAN? AND THE ANSWER IS YES WE STARTED THERE.

WE STARTED THE FORWARD PLANNING FOR THIS PROJECT IN 2018 TO 2019.

WE WERE ABOUT THIS FAR INTO THE PROJECT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALIZED PRETTY QUICKLY WAS THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS IN THE GARAGE UNDERNEATH WERE A SEPARATE PHASE.

THE THIRD BUILDING REALLY WAS DIFFICULT TO INCORPORATE INTO THAT AND ESPECIALLY AT THE MARKET UNCERTAINTY THAT WE HAD EVEN BACK THEN, AND NOW WE'VE GOT EVEN MORE.

SO THIS BY DESIGN GAVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY TO PHASE THE TWO BUILDINGS AND THE ONE BUILDING IN EITHER ORDER.

IT'S A GOOD PLAN.

YOU GET THE UNIT COUNT, WE GOT ALL 60 UNITS IN, WE GOT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN ALL ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

THE GARAGE PARKING FOR THE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT WAS A LITTLE TRICKY.

THERE'S TWO WAYS TO DO IT.

YOU CAN DO IT LIKE PARKVIEW, WHERE IT'S IT'LL BE PARTIALLY ON THE GROUND, BUT THE BUILDING WILL BE ABOVE IT AND IT'LL BE ITS OWN WORLD IF IT'S 12 UNITS, 24 PARKING SPACES IN THAT ONE BUILDING.

THE OTHER WAY YOU CAN DO IT IS YOU CAN CARRY THE GARAGE THAT'S UNDER THESE TWO BUILDINGS AROUND AND TERMINATE ABOUT THE MIDDLE PART OF THIS BUILDING.

AND NOW THAT BECOMES PART OF THAT UNDERGROUND PARKING STRUCTURE.

AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND FORTH AND THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER ENTRY AND EXIT HERE AND THAT WORKS.

I DON'T LIKE IT AS MUCH CANDIDLY AS THE TWO BUILDING, BUT WE TESTED IT.

AND WITH PEOPLE THAT I TALKED ABOUT BOTH TALKED WITH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS POTENTIAL RESIDENTS OF THESE BUILDINGS, THEY WERE ALL MORE FOCUSED ON HOW DO YOU GET THAT THIRD BUILDING OUT OF THERE? WE'D LIKE TO GET SOME MORE OPEN SPACE.

WE'D LIKE OUR WORLD IN THE TWO BUILDINGS TO BE MORE CONNECTED WITHOUT HAVING THAT THAT OTHER BUILDING.

FOR US, IT WAS A CIVIL ENGINEERING EXERCISE.

IT WAS A MARKET DRIVEN EXERCISE.

ALONG THE WAY, THOUGH, WHAT REALLY PROMPTED THE SHIFT TO TWO BUILDINGS MORE STRONGLY THAN ANYTHING WAS SEEING HOW PARKVIEW WAS COMING OUT OF THE GROUND AND WHO WAS SHOWING UP.

AND WE REALIZED THERE IS A REAL DEMAND FOR THIS PRODUCT.

IN THE TWO BUILDING SCHEME, WE CAN DELIVER SOMETHING LIKE PARKVIEW IN THE THREE BUILDING SCHEME, THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH FACADE AND THERE'S TOO MUCH ENGINEERING TO DELIVER THAT SAME QUALITY.

ANYTHING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO BE NICE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT OUR NAME ON IT IF IT'S NOT NICE.

SO THE THREE BUILDING PLAN WOULD BE PERFECTLY NICE.

I WOULD BE PROUD TO BUILD IT, BUT I'D RATHER BUILD THE TWO BUILDING PLAN BECAUSE WE CAN REALLY STEP IT UP.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO STEP IT UP TO ME, YOU WANT TO GRAB IT.

BUT THE THREE BUILDING THERE, SINCE I MENTIONED IT'S FACING THE PARKING GARAGE UNDER BUILDING A IN THE THREE BUILDING SCHEMES, A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.

AND WHEN I SAY SMALLER, THE PART THAT IS SMALLER, YOU'LL NEVER KNOW DISAPPEARED BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY TAKE A ROW OFF UNDERNEATH AND THE GARAGE IS STILL BURIED, MOST OF IT.

AND IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT HOW YOU VIEW THE BUILDING ON TOP OF IT OR THE PART OF THE GARAGE THAT COMES OUT OF THE GROUND.

ALL THESE BUILDINGS WERE FOUR SIDED MASONRY, SO ARCHITECTURALLY SPEAKING, I

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AT A MORE DETAILED LEVEL, THE BASIC GRADING DRAINAGE UTILITY PLAN VERY SIMILAR FOR THE THREE BUILDING PLAN, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THE THIRD BUILDING IS A MUCH MORE INTENSIVE GRADING EXERCISE BECAUSE YOU'RE RISING FROM SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL AT THE CORNER OF CENTRAL AND PARK RIDGE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE TOP OF THE SITE, YOU'RE AT SIX HUNDRED FIFTY TWO.

SO THERE'S A 17 FOOT RISE ON THAT SITE WHEN YOU GET AROUND THE CORNER.

WE'RE SITTING AT AROUND 643, 645.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE EXCAVATION.

THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE GRADING AROUND THAT CORNER TO GET THAT THIRD BUILDING IN THERE.

THAT'S ACTUALLY THE TRICKIER ONE TO GET IN.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE THREE BUILDING PLAN, YOU HAVE A LITTLE INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVERS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE TRAFFIC BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE RESIDENTS.

BUT THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN PLACE WOULD ACCOMMODATE THREE BUILDING PLANS, AS WE SAID TODAY.

SO AFTER THAT, I JUST WANT TO WALK THROUGH.

WE'VE BEEN AFTER THIS VISION FOR SO LONG, TRYING TO BUILD A STRONGER COMMUNITY, A STRONGER DOWNTOWN, A STRONGER SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE WANT TO DO THINGS THAT IMPROVE SOUTHLAKE.

UNLIKE 25 YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THIS DREAM, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE LIVING IN THE DOWNTOWN, NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHO'S LIVING THERE.

AND I'VE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH WITH PEOPLE LIVING HERE THAT KNOW A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE TO TRY TO GET A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? WELL, WE'RE ATTRACTING EMPTY NESTERS.

WE'VE HAD PEOPLE LIVING HERE, HAVE PEOPLE LIVING HERE WHO HAVE WHAT I'LL CALL FAMILY SITUATIONS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT FAMILY SITUATIONS.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO TRAVEL EXTENSIVELY.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHOSE PARENTS ARE NOW CLOSER TO THEM BECAUSE THERE'S A PLACE FOR THEIR PARENTS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT IN ANY COMMUNITY.

I HAVEN'T SEEN AS MANY SINKS AND DINKS SINGLE INCOME, NO KIDS,; DUAL INCOME, NO KIDS.

BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW.

WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE IN THE NUMBERS? SO I TOOK OFF THE CITY PROFILE.

I TOOK SOUTHLAKE'S POPULATION IN 2020, ESTIMATED 30,370.

I'VE SPENT TWENTY FIVE YEARS OF MY LIFE FIGHTING FOR RESIDENTIAL IN TOWN SQUARE SO THAT ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY PEOPLE COULD LIVE HERE IN 2020.

BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE THE NUMBER ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY PEOPLE.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE? I LOVE THEM ALL.

I DON'T AGREE WITH ALL THEM.

THEY DON'T AGREE WITH ME ALL THE TIME.

BUT IT'S SPECIAL, YOU KNOW, SEEING PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WALK THEIR DOGS THAT YOU CAN STOP AND HAVE A CHAT WITH.

SOUTHLAKE'S ESTIMATED BUILD OUT POPULATION 34,188.

MINE, IF THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED, MY FULL BUILD OUT POPULATION SOMEWHERE AROUND T334 PEOPLE, NOT MUCH, BUT THEY'D BE GREAT RESIDENTS.

WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THEM? THEY'RE OLDER.

WE'VE GOT FAR FEWER KIDS.

IN FACT, PARKVIEW HAS ZERO SO FAR AND IT FOLLOWS THE PRODUCTS OF THE BROWNSTONES HAVE ABOUT SEVEN.

GARDEN DISTRICT HAS ABOUT 10 ZERO IN PARKVIEW.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, I WOULD EXPECT, IS GOING TO BE CLOSER TO TO ZERO JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PRODUCT.

THE 19 TO 64, THE 72 PERCENT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME, BUT IT'S, I THINK, A PRETTY ACCURATE REFLECTION OF HOW MANY EMPTY NESTERS ARE MOVING HERE FROM 40S BEFORE THEY TURN 65.

YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT SECOND FLOOR AND REALIZE I DON'T NEED THAT ANYMORE OTHER THAN I'M CLEANING IT, HEATING AND COOLING IT, BUT I NEVER GO UP THERE BECAUSE KIDS ARE GONE.

SO UNLESS WE CAN FIND A WAY TO CHOP OUR HOUSES IN HALF AND FLING THE PART WE DON'T USE SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY USE IT, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE THIS MOVE AS EARLY AS THEY CAN.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING A VERY STRONG MOSTLY IN THE 45 TO 65 AGE RANGE.

SO THAT'S 72 PERCENT IN TOWN SQUARE.

65 AND OLDER IS 18 PERCENT.

WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THAT GROUP SHOWING UP IN PARKVIEW NOW, MORE SO THAN WE DID IN THE BROWNSTONES BECAUSE OF THE THREE STORIES.

AND WITH MY BACK TONIGHT, I REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY I WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE IN A THREE STORY HOUSE.

I DON'T THINK I CAN GET UP THREE FLIGHTS OF STAIRS RIGHT NOW.

AVERAGE PEOPLE PER HOUSEHOLD IN SOUTHLAKE, 3.25.

IN THE GARDEN DISTRICT, SORRY, IN TOWN SQUARE RESIDENTIAL IN ITS ENTIRETY, 2.07.

PARKVIEW'S ABOUT 1.67 PEOPLE PER UNIT.

AVERAGE CHILDREN PER HOUSEHOLD 1.09.

IN SOUTHLAKE 0.2 IS WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT.

PARKVIEW, AS I MENTIONED, IS ZERO.

ALSO FOR THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT US FLOODING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH KIDS.

WE'VE GOT FIFTEEN YEARS OF EXPERIENCE RIGHT NOW AND DATA THAT SAYS THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

NOW, I COULDN'T FIND THE AVERAGE SIZE OF A HOUSE IN SOUTHLAKE, BUT I'M A BET THAT THE AVERAGE SIZE OF A HOUSE LIKE A HOUSE IN SOUTHLAKE IS OVER 4500 SQUARE FEET.

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THE AVERAGE, IF WE BUILT THIS PROJECT AND WE SHOOK OUR AVERAGE OUT ACROSS ALL OUR PRODUCT, WE'D BE UNDER THREE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

SO THIS IS A GREAT METRIC, PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE TO TAKE HALF THE SPACE.

BUT LOOK AT THE PROPERTY TAXES THEY'RE PAYING.

OUR AVERAGE HOME SALES PRICES ALMOST DOUBLE THE CITY AVERAGE, AND IT'S RISING BECAUSE THE PRODUCT THAT'S LEFT, WE'VE GOT A FEW CUSTOM LOTS LEFT.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE TWO AND A HALF, THREE MILLION PLUS.

AND WE'VE GOT THESE VERY PRICEY RESIDENCES IN PARKVIEW.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT I CAN SEE THAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM THAT HAS THREATENED SOUTHLAKE IN ANY WAY, WE ARE NOT THREATENING THE POPULATION GAP.

WE'RE NOT THREATENING THE SCHOOL ENROLLMENT.

AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE GOES, WE DESIGN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE IN 1896 TO HANDLE AN ESTIMATED FULL BUILD OUT.

THE SHAME WOULD BE IF WE DIDN'T USE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'D ALREADY BUILT AND PAID FOR AND PUT IN THE GROUND.

SO PARKVIEW, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUILD A NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUILD NEW ROADS.

WE JUST PLUGGED IT IN.

I MEAN, IT'S AS EASY AS IT GETS.

PARKVIEW WILL HAVE A VALUE ON COMPLETION WHEN WE FINALLY SELL OUT.

I'M GUESSING OVER FIFTY MILLION.

THAT'S ON HALF AN ACRE.

WE'RE IN SOUTHLAKE.

CAN YOU FIND ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS AN ACRE OF PROPERTY VALUE? AND THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THAT.

IS NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE PEOPLE LIVING HERE THAT ARE HELPING THE DOWNTOWN AND HELPING THE CITY, BUT FROM A SCHOOL DISTRICT STANDPOINT.

AND I SAW THIS COME UP IN A THREAD.

THERE WAS A QUESTION RAISED ABOUT WHETHER THE TIF MONEY THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS IS PLUGGED BACK INTO.

TOWN SQUARE OR WHERE IT GOES.

DOES THE DEVELOPER GET IT? WELL, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE TIF FROM WHAT I'VE READ, THE FIRST 20 YEARS OF THE TIF, WHICH EXPIRED IN 2018, TIF MONEY WAS USED TO PAY FOR DAWSON, EUBANKS, OLD UNION AND A FOOTBALL STADIUM.

THAT DIDN'T PAY ALL THOSE COSTS, BUT THOSE PROJECTS ARE WHAT THE TIF MONEY WAS USED FOR.

AND THAT WAS BY DESIGN AND IT WAS BY THE TIF DOCUMENT THAT SAID THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE TIF ON THE CONDITION THAT ONLY SCHOOL PROJECTS WOULD BENEFIT FROM THEIR TIF INCREMENT.

SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS IT.

THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS THAT THE TIME THEY DID IT, IT WAS EXEMPT FROM ROBINHOOD, SO THE OPERATIONAL PORTION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S REVENUES FROM TOWN SQUARE IS EXEMPT FROM ROBINHOOD.

THEY GET TO KEEP ALL OF IT TO USE ON SCHOOL PROJECTS AND TO USE ON SCHOOL OPERATIONS.

WITH THE GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENTS, TONIGHT, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT OUR TOTAL VALUES WILL EXCEED 200 MILLION FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM IN TOWN SQUARE, AND THAT'S ON LESS THAN 15 ACRES.

IT'S A PRETTY GOOD BENEFIT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE NUMBERS, I THINK THERE'S EVERY REASON TO APPROVE THIS PLAN, WE'RE PROUD OF IT.

WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL GIVE IT DUE CONSIDERATION.

WE HAVE SHOWN THE ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS THE THREE BUILDING PLAN.

BUT FOR MY MONEY, I'D RATHER DO TWO.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR. BLISS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? OK, WE'LL STICK AROUND, BECAUSE I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME.

SO BEFORE WE CALL PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH IS THE NEXT STEP, I WANT TO TALK TO ALAN TAYLOR, THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND JUST GET HIM TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS SO THAT, AGAIN, WE CAN SORT OF SET THE LEGAL STAGE HERE.

SO, ALAN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH KEN BAKER AT LENGTH.

THE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, COOPER AND STEVENS HAS IT RIGHT AND IS ENTITLED TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE DATING BACK TO 2011, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

OK, AND SO AT THIS POINT, I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT, LEGALLY SPEAKING, THAT USE DOESN'T GO AWAY UNLESS HE ASKS FOR A REZONING? THAT IS CORRECT.

AS I HAVE PREVIOUSLY ADVISED THE.

COUNCIL UNDER THE SOUTHLAKE ZONING STRUCTURE, WHEN WE COME THROUGH AND GRANT THIS TYPE OF ZONING AND CREATE THE ENTITLEMENT IN THE ZONING THAT DETERMINES THE USE.

PREVIOUSLY, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS PREVIOUSLY ON OTHER ZONING CASES.

WHEN INITIAL ZONING REQUEST IS MADE, THE COUNCIL HAS ENORMOUS DISCRETION.

IT IS A SUBJECTIVE, DISCRETIONARY LEGISLATIVE ACT.

THEY CAN CONSIDER ABOUT 14 DIFFERENT FACTORS, SUCH AS IMPACT ON ADJOINING PROPERTIES, ESTABLISHMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES, PRESERVING NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, PRESERVING PROPERTY VALUES, BALANCING DENSITY.

THE LIST GOES ON AND ON, AND THE COUNCIL HAS A GREAT DEAL OF DISCRETION.

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MANY YEARS AGO, CITIES HAD THE DISCRETION TO COME BACK AND RECONSIDER THOSE DECISIONS AND GO IN NEW DIRECTIONS.

BUT THE 83RD LEGISLATURE DOWN IN AUSTIN TOOK AWAY THAT RIGHT.

THEY AMENDED CHAPTER 245 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH WE CALL THE VESTED RIGHTS ACT.

AND IT SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES THAT WHEN A BUILDER, DEVELOPER OR PROPERTY OWNER PUTS THE CITY ON FULL AND FAIR NOTICE OF A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR INTENT, THEN THEY ARE ALLOWED TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN UNDER THE RULES OR REGULATIONS THAT WERE IN EXISTENCE WHEN THAT PLAN WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AND THE 83RD LEGISLATURE ADDED ZONING TO THE ITEMS THAT CAN VEST.

SO WHAT THAT MEANT IS ONCE THIS ZONING DECISION WAS MADE AND THE NEW CONCEPT PLAN WHICH LOCKED IN THE USE RIGHT ON THE RESIDENTIAL USES ON THIS TRACT, WAS APPROVED IN 2013.

THE DEVELOPER HAD THE RIGHT TO THAT USE.

THEY HAVE NOW COME FORWARD WITH A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, PUTTING THE CITY ON FULL AND FAIR NOTICE OF A DEVELOPMENT INTENT, AND THEREFORE, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE IT.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO A SITE PLAN REVIEW.

AND AS I HAVE REVIEWED WITH THE COUNCIL SITE PLAN REVIEW UNDER TEXAS LAW AND UNDER THE STRUCTURE OF OUR ORDINANCE IS EQUIVALENT TO SUBDIVISION PLAT REVIEW, WHEREAS ZONING IS SUBJECTIVE, DISCRETIONARY AND LEGISLATIVE SITE PLAN OR SUBDIVISION PLAN REVIEW IS MINISTERIAL, NONDISCRETIONARY AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE OBJECTIVE ACT.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO BE COMPLIANT WITH TEXAS LAW.

AND SO THE COUNCIL REALLY DOES NOT HAVE THE DISCRETION AT THIS POINT TO RECONSIDER USE.

WE CAN ADDRESS THE DESIGN ISSUES, BUT WE ARE LOCKED INTO THE USE.

SO WHEN YOU SAY DESIGN ISSUES, USE, WE HAVE NO DISCRETION LEGALLY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

NOW, WITH DESIGN ISSUES, YOU PART OF THAT IS THE SITE PLAN DESIGN, CORRECT? CORRECT.

WE CAN DISCUSS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, THE NUMBER OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES, WHETHER OR NOT THE LANDSCAPING PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR ORIGINAL LANDSCAPING PLAN AND BASED UPON THE STAFF'S REVIEW OF THESE PROPOSALS, THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN.

YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THEM ARGUABLY ARE THE TWO BUILDING CONCEPT PLAN.

THERE IS, OF COURSE, A SLIGHT VARIANCE IN THAT THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS RATHER THAN THREE.

BUT SUBSTANTIVELY, THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THE ENVELOPE IN WHICH THEY WILL BE PLACED, THE CHARACTER AND SIZE OF THE UNITS ARE INTERNALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE 2013 APPROVAL.

THE PLAN B, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ALMOST A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE CONCEPT PLAN.

THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY DISCRETION.

IT IS COMPLIANT IN ALL PARTICULARS.

AND THE CITY, IF IT IS TO FOLLOW TEXAS STATUTORY LAW AND CASE LAW, THE CITY HAS NO OPTION BUT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT.

THE CITY HAS NO OPTION WITH SITE PLAN B; CORRECT? CORRECT.

SITE PLAN A, BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENCES, THE CITY HAS SOME DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT.

YES, SIR.

OK.

OK, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY OBVIOUSLY IS HIRED BY COUNCIL TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM LIABILITY.

AND AS HE'S DESCRIBING, THERE IS A HIGH LEVEL OF LIABILITY.

PART OF OUR JOB REALLY IS A LARGE PART OF OUR JOB IS TO BE FIDUCIARIES WITH TAXPAYER MONEY.

AND SO WE WANT TO JUST BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT'S AT ISSUE HERE.

AND SO I WANTED YOU ALL TO HEAR THAT ADVICE FROM HIM, BECAUSE THE REALITY IS WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE IS NOT USE, IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL USE.

THAT DECISION WAS MADE 10 YEARS AGO.

WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS DESIGN.

WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCRETION WITH SITE PLAN A.

WE REALLY HAVE NO DISCRETION WITH SITE PLAN B.

I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY, REALLY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

SOMETIMES, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES WHERE THERE IS A VOTE THAT COULD BE A POLITICALLY EASY VOTE, BUT IT'S NOT THE RESPONSIBLE VOTE.

WE WILL ALWAYS, AS A COUNCIL, DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO PROTECT THE CITY'S FINANCIAL.

OUR RESPONSIBILITY, AS FIDUCIARIES, IS TO PROTECT THE CITY'S FINANCES AND NOT TO SUBJECTED TO UNDUE LIABILITY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SET THAT STAGE BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE.

SO THANK YOU, MR. TAYLOR.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

SO THE WAY THIS WORKS IS I'M GOING TO READ NAMES AND ADDRESSES.

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LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES AND DIRECTOR BAKER WILL GET EVERYTHING TEED UP HERE.

JUST WATCH THE WATCH THE CLOCK.

THE YELLOW LIGHT MEANS ONE MINUTE TO GO.

THE RED LIGHT MEANS TIME'S UP.

IF I HAVE COMMENT CARDS, I WILL ALSO READ INTO THE RECORD FOR THOSE WHO EITHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSE THE ITEM WHO DON'T WISH TO SPEAK.

IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND AT ANY TIME AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME AND COME ON UP AND WE'LL HEAR YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT, THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM PAYTON MAYS, 231 PARK RIDGE BOULEVARD, WHO WILL SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE THANK YOU FOR PRODUCING THAT VIDEO.

I THINK IT WAS GREAT AND IT WAS VERY EDUCATIONAL.

I THINK OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE ON HIGH QUALITY AND NOT NECESSARILY DENSITY.

I UNDERSTAND WHY DENSITY IS A BAD WORD.

I GREW UP ON A RANCH IN WEST TEXAS, SO I HAD NO ONE WITHIN MILES OF ME, YOU KNOW, MOVED TO NEW YORK CITY AND HAD PEOPLE ALL OVER ME.

I JUST THINK DENSITY IS GOT A BAD NAME AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY.

I THINK THIS IS A VERY, YOU KNOW, GOOD HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.

PARKVIEW, I THINK IT'S AS YOU SAID IT IN THE VIDEO, MAYOR, IT'S A GREAT DEVELOPMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT 700 DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT.

I THINK IF YOU GO ON ZILLOW NOW, SOME OF THE ASKING PRICE IS RIGHT, HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT.

CRAZY, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR SOUTHLAKE.

ONE OF THE HOMES ON PARK RIDGE GOT LISTED THIS WEEK AT SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS PER SQUARE FOOT BY 4.4 MILLION.

DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL TRADE THERE, BUT WHEN ON MONDAY IT MAY ALREADY BE UNDER CONTRACT, FOR ALL I KNOW.

IT'S I THINK IT'S THIS IS GOOD FOR SOUTHLAKE.

WE MOVED OUR FAMILY HERE FROM WESTLAKE, HOUSE THAT WE BUILT, I THOUGHT WE'D BE THERE FOREVER.

WE LOVE IT HERE.

WE'RE BUILDING ANOTHER HOUSE HERE.

I THINK IT'S JUST, AGAIN, A DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT HOUSING OPTION FOR PEOPLE AND SOUTHLAKE.

I THINK OUR RESTAURANTS AND, YOU KNOW, RETAILERS, I THINK THEY APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.

AND THEN, TOO, I THINK, I JUST WANT TO SAY, TOO.

FRANK BLISS AND HIS PARTNER, BRIAN STEBBINS AND COOPER AND STEBBINS COOPER AND COMPANY, I THINK THEY'VE DONE AMAZING THINGS FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

AND IT PAINS ME TO SEE SOME OF THE THINGS I SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT GREEDY DEVELOPERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I THINK THEY'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT MOST OTHER DEVELOPERS WOULD DO.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, FRANK, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE QUALITY OF THIS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, I THINK HAS BEEN A GAME CHANGER FOR SOUTHLAKE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM MARISSA MAHAN, 2949 RIVER CREST STREET, GRAPEVINE, TEXAS, WHO WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.

GOOD EVENING, GOOD EVENING.

IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, MY NAME IS MARISSA MAHAN.

MY ADDRESS IS 2949 RIVER CREST STREET, GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.

FIRST, WELCOME TO OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR HUFFMAN.

I'VE BEEN IN SOUTHLAKE SINCE 1992, BACK WHEN TOWN SQUARE WAS A RED BARN AND MY PARENTS ARE STILL IN THEIR HOUSE ACROSS FROM CARROLL.

AND I'M NOW GRAPEVINE RESIDENT AND ZONED IN CARROLL ISD.

LAST WEEK I HAD LOOKED INTO SOME DOCUMENTS REGARDING OUR SCHOOL ZONING AND THE IMPACT THAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE.

I NOTED THAT WE HAD SOME PRETTY, I GUESS, NUMBERS ABOUT 0.2 KIDS PER RESIDENT.

I DO WANT TO BRING THE ATTENTION THAT WE DO HAVE THE GRANDPARENT CLAUSE THAT I PREVIOUSLY USED BEFORE I MOVED IN.

AND I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO JUST CONSIDER THAT AS WE'RE DOING PLANNING, GIVEN THAT WE DO HAVE TO APPROVE ONE OF THE OPTIONS.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK AS A PARENT.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO FIND A WAY TO TURN THE PLOT OF LAND AND THE PARK INTO SOMETHING THAT CAN BRING OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER, WHETHER THAT BE ANOTHER FOUNTAIN, MAYBE WITH A SPLASH PAD OR SOMETHING THAT IS JUST BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY.

BUT OVERALL, I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO BE AWARE THAT ANY ADDITIONAL CHILDREN INTO OUR DISTRICT, WE ARE VERY LIMITED RIGHT NOW WITH JOHNSON ELEMENTARY, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT THIRTY FIVE OVER CAPACITY WITHIN JUST FIVE YEARS.

SO AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO BUS MANY OF OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION KIDS TO OTHER CAMPUSES BECAUSE WE'RE AT CAPACITY AND THAT SCHOOL JUST REMODELED.

SO IN CASE WE DO GO OVER THE NUMBERS THAT ARE PROJECTED, I JUST WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE OF CONSIDERATION TO THE COUNCIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS VICTOR AVILA AT 2204 COTSWOLD VALLEY COURT, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, WHO WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

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FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS, MAYOR, AND THE NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU HERE.

I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND DENY THIS REQUEST.

REALLY IT'S BY REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE AND PUTTING THEM FIRST.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS, AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM DO NOT WANT ANY MORE HIGH DENSITY IN THIS CITY.

THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDINGS.

THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH DENSITY AND FRANKLY, THEY JUST DON'T WANT ANY MORE.

AND YOU ALLUDED TO IT DURING YOUR CAMPAIGNS.

YOU ALL SAID YOU WOULD VOTE AGAINST ANY MORE HIGH DENSITY.

AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU DO THE RIGHT DECISION AND DENY THIS REQUEST.

I KNOW WHAT THE ATTORNEY ALLUDED TO, AND I'LL JUST REMIND YOU THIS, AS A NEW CITY COUNCIL, YOU'RE NOT BEHOLDEN TO WHAT PRIOR CITY COUNCILS HAVE DONE.

YOU COULD MAKE YOUR DECISION AS A NEW CITY COUNCIL IF GOVERNMENTS WERE BEHOLDEN TO PRIOR GOVERNMENTS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A CRISIS AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER.

NEW GOVERNMENTS DO NEW THINGS AND HAVE DECISIONS AND HAVE POWER, AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE, NOT FOR THE DEVELOPERS, THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

I COULD TELL YOU FIRSTHAND, EVERY TIME I HEAR ABOUT DENSITY, EVERY TIME I HEAR ABOUT APARTMENTS, THE ANSWER IS WE DO NOT WANT THEM TO.

DO THE RIGHT THING AND SHUT THIS ONE DOWN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

SO WE DON'T FROM THE DAIS, WE DON'T ADDRESS PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE A POINT.

I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT AND SOMETHING MEANT TO ADDRESS WITH ALAN TAYLOR.

SO ONE THING WE IN CITY COUNCIL DO WHEN WE TAKE A ZONING ACTION AND WHEN WE PUT IN PLACE A CONCEPT PLAN, THIS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE LIVE IN TEXAS.

WE CREATE PROPERTY RIGHTS IN THAT PROPERTY AND WE LIVE IN TEXAS.

TEXAS LAW IS SUPER CLEAR ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS.

WE RESPECT PROPERTY RIGHTS.

NOW WE HAVE SOME DISCRETION, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY DISCUSSED EXTENSIVELY.

BUT WHEN PRIOR COUNCILS HAVE CREATED PROPERTY RIGHTS ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE ABSOLUTELY ARE BEHOLDEN NOT TO THAT COUNCIL, BUT TO THE LAW.

SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT REALLY, REALLY CLEAR.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT, LIKE IT OR NOT, THAT DECISION WAS MADE A DECADE AGO.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR GOING FORWARD.

NEXT SPEAKER IS SUSAN CULLEN, 725 BENTWOOD LANE SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, WHO WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

I DON'T NEED TO SAY MY NAME AGAIN, DO I? OH, I THINK SUSAN CULLEN.

YOU SHOULD GO FOR IT, YES, GOOD.

725 BENTWOOD LANE, SOUTHLAKE.

THANK YOU.

THE DEVELOPER NEVER STATED THAT THESE UNITS WERE GOING TO BE FOR SALE OR LEASE .

IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE FOR RENT AND THEY'RE APARTMENTS.

WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF APARTMENTS.

I UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T CHANGE THE BUILDINGS AND THE UNITS, BUT CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THAT WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR LEASE OR IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE FOR SALE? AND THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ADEQUATE PARKING IF THERE ARE ONLY TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT.

HE DOESN'T SAY HOW MANY BEDROOMS THE UNITS ARE.

UNITS, JUST ONE UNIT, AND IT COULD BE THREE BEDROOMS. AND AS PREVIOUSLY NOTED, THIS DEVELOPER IS COMES UP SHORT ON PARKING SPACES.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS, I WOULD LIKE THE HEIGHT OF THESE BUILDINGS TO NOT EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS.

WE LOVE OUR LITTLE TOWN CENTER AND IT HAS A HOMETOWN FEELING.

AND IF WE START PUTTING HIGHER AND HIGHER BUILDINGS IN THERE, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE NEW YORK CITY.

SO I DO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THOSE THINGS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM MARY LEE ALFORD, 1812 ST.

PHILIP AVENUE, WHO WILL SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

GOOD EVENING.

MARY ALFORD, 1812 ST.

PHILLIP AVENUE.

FIRST, I'D LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT ANYONE IN SOUTHLAKE WHO IS AGED 55 AND OLDER IS CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER.

YEAH, I'M NOT QUITE THERE.

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SO I'D LIKE TO PRESENT A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FROM A SENIOR CITIZEN PERSPECTIVE.

SOUTHLAKE, LIKE EVERY PLACE ELSE IN AMERICA, HAS AN AGING POPULATION.

BABY BOOMERS, ONCE THE LARGEST DEMOGRAPHIC IN AMERICA, ARE AGING.

AS WE THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHLAKE AGE, WE HAVE CHANGING NEEDS AND CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF THE NEEDS OF OUR AGING SOUTHLAKE CITIZENS, THOSE AGED 55 AND OVER.

FROM PAGE 32 IN THE JUNE 2019 ISSUE OF 360W MAGAZINE, IT STATES BY 2020, WHEN THE SENIOR POPULATION IN NORTH TEXAS WILL HAVE INCREASED BY 41 PERCENT FROM 2015 NUMBERS, ACCORDING TO THE COMMUNITY PROFILE PREPARED FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE BY ESRI IN 2010, EIGHTEEN POINT TWO PERCENT OF THE POPULATION OF SOUTHLAKE WERE AGES 55 AND ABOVE.

IN 2018, TWENTY EIGHT POINT SEVEN PERCENT OF THE POPULATION OF SOUTHLAKE WERE AGES 55 AND OVER.

THAT'S A TEN AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN EIGHT YEARS.

IT'S PROJECTED THAT BY 2023, WHICH IS COMING UP QUICKLY, THIRTY FOUR POINT SEVEN PERCENT OF THE POPULATION OF SOUTHLAKE WILL BE AGES 55 AND OVER.

THE SENIOR POPULATION OF SOUTHLAKE IS INCREASING AT A RAPID RATE.

WE NEED TO START CARING FOR AND PLANNING FOR THE NEEDS OF THIS HUGE GROUP OF SOUTHLAKE CITIZENS, WHICH INCLUDES AGE APPROPRIATE LUXURY LIVING.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOWNSIZING OR WHAT I CONSIDER I CALL IT RIGHT SIZING FOR OUR AGES.

BY 2023, IT'S PROJECTED THAT THIRTY POINT FIVE PERCENT OF THE SOUTHLAKE POPULATION WILL BE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 55 AND 74.

WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR THE NEEDS OF THIS AGE GROUP.

THIS AGE GROUP IS NOT READY TO LIVE IN NURSING HOMES.

I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT AGE GROUP.

CARL IS OVER IT.

YOU ALL KNOW WE'RE NOT READY FOR THE NURSING HOME.

PEOPLE LOVE SOUTHLAKE BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE IT PROVIDES.

THOSE WHO LIVE HERE FOR DECADES AND SOMETIMES CAN NO LONGER PHYSICALLY CARE FOR HUGE TRACTS OF LAND OR SIMPLY DON'T WANT TO CARE FOR HUGE, HUGE HOMES.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST I'M THRILLED TO DEATH THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE FOR RIGHT SIZING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM SABRINA HAKIMI AT 1120 HARBOR HAVEN, ST.

SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, WHO WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR HUFFMAN.

CONGRATULATIONS ONCE AGAIN AND TO ALL THE NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE AGAIN.

UM, YOU'VE GIVEN US THE FACTS.

I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND GO THROUGH THAT AND GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS.

LONG STORY SHORT, THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE HAVE VOTED FOR YOU FOR A PURPOSE.

EVERYONE AT SOME POINT IN THEIR CAMPAIGNS HAVE COMMITTED TO KEEPING SOUTHLAKE LOW DENSITY AND OPPOSING HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHETHER THIS IS FOR SALE OR EVENTUALLY BECOMES FOR LEASE OR WHATNOT.

FIFTY EIGHT UNITS ON TWO POINT TWO ACRES OF LAND ARE APARTMENTS.

CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT RIGHT NOW.

THEY COULD BE FOR SALE.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.

PLEASE DO.

RIGHT BY THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE.

THE MAJORITY DO NOT WANT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

WE ARE AT RESIDENTIAL CAPACITY.

WE'RE AT BUILT OUT.

AND THE POINT NOW IS THIS IS APPROVED IN 2013, BUT IT'S 2021.

THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE DONE UNTIL 2024.

AND IF ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT YOU LOOK AT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ON TIME.

I THINK THE PARKVIEW RESIDENCES AND THE BROWNSTONES ARE A TESTAMENT TO THAT.

SO BY THEN, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE THE CITY WILL INCREASE IN DENSITY, IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, IN POPULATION DENSITY.

THAT'S A STRAIN ON OUR SCHOOLS.

THAT'S A STRAIN ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO.

SO I'M HERE TO GO ON THE RECORD IS.

THAT I AM AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT, DESPITE, YOU KNOW, I GET THE ZONING LAWS, I GET ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO BY IT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM JOHNNY CAMPANELLO AT 350 CENTRAL AVENUE, #309, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

[02:25:01]

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

I AM A PARKVIEW OWNER AND THEN A SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT SINCE 1998, SOME KIND OF THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO LIVED IN A BIG HOME WITH, YOU KNOW, POOL AND YARD AND KIDS WENT TO SOUTHLAKE AND HAVE MOVED AND, YOU KNOW, BECOME, YOU KNOW, GONE ON THEIR OWN LIFE.

AND MY WIFE AND I WANTED TO DOWNSIZE AND STAY IN SOUTHLAKE THE PLACE THAT WE LOVE.

AND WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ONE OF THE EARLY ADOPTERS TO PARKVIEW.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROVERSY AROUND THIS SUBJECT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE FAIL TO REALIZE THAT SOUTHLAKE ITSELF AND THE TOWN SQUARE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF IS KIND OF HAS ITS OWN ECOSYSTEM.

AND EVERY RESIDENT THAT MOVES HERE, YOU KNOW, LIVES AND GOES INTO SHOPS AND EATS AND MORE THAN PROBABLY AN AVERAGE SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT DOES.

AND I THINK MORE OF THAT WILL ONLY HELP US.

THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW FRANK BLISS AND HIS TEAM QUITE WELL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND I THINK IT'S A TESTAMENT TO THAT THIS TEAM THAT THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR 25 OR 30 YEARS AND HAVE NOT JUST DEVELOPED THIS AND RUN BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IN SOUTHLAKE, LIKE MANY CITIES, HAVE HAD DEVELOPERS THAT COME IN FOR A QUICK PROFIT AND GONE AND LEAVES IT TO THE CITY TO DEAL WITH LATER ON.

FRANK'S BEEN HERE ON THE GROUND EVERY YEAR DOING HIS THING, COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS THE BEST PROJECT THAT THEY CAN.

AND I THINK HE SHOULD BE COMPLIMENTED FOR THAT AND HIS TEAM.

THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE HIM SOME CREDIT FOR KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY'RE MAKING THIS, YOU KNOW, GOING FROM THREE BUILDINGS TO TWO IS BY DESIGN FOR THEM TO MAKE THE OVERALL PROJECT BETTER.

AND I'M ALL IN FAVOR FOR THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

I PROBABLY HAD MORE TO SAY IF THIS WAS A LOT EARLIER, BUT I'M A GO AHEAD AND STOP NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT COMMENT IS FROM HENRY HUBBELL AT 2208 PATTERSON WAY, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, WHO WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

HI, MY NAME IS HENRY HUBBELL, 2208 PATTERSON WAY, AND I'D HAVE TO SAY I'M REALLY NOT OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM.

I THINK THE CONCEPT IS GREAT AND I THINK WE NEED IT FOR SOUTHLAKE.

MY ISSUE IS A BROADER ONE, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE INCREASING AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT WE'RE CREATING AS WE ADD MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS VERY PICTURE THAT WE HAVE UP THERE RIGHT NOW JUST ILLUSTRATES ALL OF THAT LAND BASICALLY AS IT'S DEVELOPED AND THAT IMPERVIOUS AREA HAS BEEN EXPANDED, FLOWS THROUGH THE WEST JONES CREEK.

WE HAVE THE CORRIDOR ALONG 114 THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING THAT IS GOING TO CONTRIBUTE ADDITIONAL WATERS TO THAT THAT WATERSHED AREA.

GATEWAY HAS COME IN SINCE I'VE MOVED HERE BACK IN 2004.

AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LAND USE HAS BEEN APPROVED.

WE HAVE ALL OF THAT PERMITTED.

BUT WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND THE ENGINEERS DEVELOP IT, THEY DO THE BEST JOB THEY CAN AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO MANAGE THE FLOOD ISSUES, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE MANAGING FOR PEAK VOLUME.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THE NORMAL VOLUMES, THE NORMAL RANGE, THEY GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND IT ERODES.

AND THERE'S AN AREA WITH THE WHOLE THIS WHOLE WATERSHED IS DESIGNED TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE PEAK FLOWS AT KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD.

THAT'S THE ENDPOINT FOR THE DESIGN.

THE AREAS BEYOND THAT AND OUR SUBDIVISION IS PART OF THAT, THE PARK AND THE PONDS ACROSS THE STREET FROM KIRKWOOD ARE ALL PART OF THAT.

AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS VERY EXCESSIVE EROSION IN THOSE AREAS.

OTHER CITIES HAVE ADDRESSED THIS BY GOING THROUGH AND ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE EROSION POTENTIAL, THOSE STREAMS AND DEFINING THAT AND HAVING THE DEVELOPERS ADDRESS THAT AS THEY BRING PROJECTS FORWARD.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO.

AND I'M WORKING WITH I JUST TALKED WITH ROB ABOUT IT.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THERE.

THERE'S MANUALS LOOKING AT STREAM STABILIZATION THAT OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA HAVE OF IMPLEMENTED.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR OUR CITY AND GET THOSE BURDENS OFF OF

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COUNCIL AND TO THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE BRINGING THESE THINGS FORWARD.

THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY.

THANK YOU, SIR FOR YOUR GOOD COMMENTS AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF AND UNDERSTAND THAT THAT ISSUE MORE COMPREHENSIVELY.

THANK YOU.

OK, THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM SUSAN FRENCH AT 2401 REMUDA COURT AND SHE WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

IS MS. FRENCH HERE? OK, OK, SO THAT DOES IT FOR MY LIST OF SPEAKERS, UNLESS THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE.

MR. VIVIAS.

COME ON UP.

THANK YOU, SIR.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD HERE.

PAUL VIDVIDAS, 919 EDGEMERE LANE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE RIGHTS OF THE BUILDER TO BUILD AS INTENDED ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND I APPRECIATE AND CONGRATULATE ALL THE NEW MEMBERS AND THE OATH THAT THEY TOOK TO UPHOLD THOSE LAWS.

I THINK THAT THE ATTORNEY PUT IT VERY WELL, AND I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED QUALITY BUILDERS, QUALITY DECISIONS TO BE MADE IN THE CITY.

AND YOU'RE FOLLOWING THAT.

I THINK THAT MR. BLISS, I'VE SEEN MANY PRESENTATIONS, DIDN'T SUPPORT THE LAST ONE.

I SUPPORT THIS ONE.

IT'S AMAZING WHAT HE'S DONE.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK TO THAT.

IF I HAD ONE CRITIQUE, I'D LOOK AT HOW TO MANIPULATE THAT GARAGE FOR VISITOR PARKING AND ADD SOME OF THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH AFFLUENT PEOPLE AND VISITORS FAMILY.

BUT I ADMIRE THE DECISION THAT YOU'VE MADE.

THREE KEY COMPONENTS, EXPECTATIONS, INITIATIVE, AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING A COMMUNITY AND ACROSS THE BOARD WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU'VE MADE, UPDATING EVERYBODY THAT'S IN LINE WITH EVERYBODY'S EXPECTATIONS, HOW YOU ALL RAN AND HOW YOU WERE ELECTED AND HOW YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW SUIT.

AND YOU ALL TOOK THAT OATH OF OFFICE.

THE INITIATIVE THAT MR. BLISS HAS TAKEN TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, HOW THAT'S GOING TO OCCUPY THE SPACE, HOW IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT MORE BEAUTIFUL IS IMPRESSIVE.

AND AS RELATES TO THE COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE.

WE DOT THE I'S AND CROSS THE T'S IN THIS COMMUNITY AS IT RELATES TO EVERY OTHER DEVELOPMENT.

LOOK AT THOSE BUILDINGS THAT THEY BUILT BEFORE.

HE'S NOT GOING TO PUT HIS NAME ON SOMETHING, SO I THINK THIS ADDS TO IT.

I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THE HEIGHT IS AN ISSUE.

I THINK IF BEAUTIFIES IT, ADDS SOME EXCITEMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

I LIVED IN CHICAGO AT A ROOFTOP DECK VIEW OF THE CITY, MULTISTORY TOWNHOME.

PEOPLE CONNECT AND GET TOGETHER.

THIS IS AN AMAZING PROJECT.

WELL DONE.

I KNOW I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS HIM, BUT WELL DONE, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE THAT.

ANYBODY ELSE WILLING OR DESIRING TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT? OK, SO I'M GOING TO READ A SERIES OF OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MR. ED HERNANDEZ AT 2001 BELL ROAD DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT PLEASE RECORD MY OPPOSITION.

LAURA CAMPANELLA, 350 CENTRAL AVENUE 309 SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT PLEASE RECORD MY SUPPORT.

KARL ALFORD 1812 ST.

PHILLIP AVENUE.

DO NOT WISH TO SEE SPEAK, BUT PLEASE RECORD MY SUPPORT.

JIM MANSKY 350 CENTRAL NUMBER 3O8 SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT PLEASE RECORD MY SUPPORT.

MIKE LINCOLN, 970 SOUTH VIEW TRAIL.

I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT PLEASE RECORD MY OPPOSITION.

SUE FORD 800 WILDWOOD LANE.

I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT PLEASE RECORD MY OPPOSITION.

HELEN PEARSON 470 SOUTH VIEW TRAIL, SOUTHLAKE.

I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT PLEASE RECORD MY OPPOSITION WITH A NOTE ATTACHED WHICH WILL BE PLACED INTO THE RECORD.

CORRECT, SEAN? OK.

KELLY GOODNESS, 1515 MEETING STREET, I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT PLEASE RECORD MY OPPOSITION.

LUIS GARCIA, 1515 MEETING STREET, I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT PLEASE RECORD MY OPPOSITION.

JANE CRAVENS, 304 LAKESIDE COURT, I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT PLEASE RECORD MY OPPOSITION, AND THEN SUE FORD 800 WILDWOOD LANE.

I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT PLEASE RECORD MY OPPOSITION.

AND WANDA JABBARI, 302 LAKESIDE COURT, I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT PLEASE RECORD MY OPPOSITION.

SO THAT IS ALL THE COMMENT CARDS WE HAVE.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? OK, SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE.

[02:35:02]

OH, SORRY.

COME ON UP.

COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM SO WE CAN WE CAN HEAR YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND.

PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

HI, I'M MARILYN KLINA, LIVE AT 389 CARROLL COURT SOUTHLAKE, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

THERE WAS A LADY WHO HAD BLONDE HAIR AND A YELLOW SHIRT AND SHE ASKED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

AND ARE WE GOING TO GET THOSE ANSWERED? ABOUT IF THE UNITS WERE APARTMENTS OR IF THEY WERE FOR RENT OR FOR LEASE OR FOR SALE? SO COUNCIL IS GOING TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE DEVELOPER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THEY HAVE AND IF ONE OF THEM WANTS TO ASK THAT, ABSOLUTELY.

OK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT? OK, WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.

SO BEFORE WE GET INTO DISCUSSION, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WE HAVE FOR THE DEVELOPER OR FOR STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP IN THE MIDST OF THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO FLUSH OUT? YES, MAYOR.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR.

OF THE DEVELOPER.

I'M SORRY TO MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE THE MICROPHONE FROM THERE AND MAKE YOU STRETCH OUT A LITTLE BIT.

JUST A FEW POINTS I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON.

STEBBINS PARK, OF COURSE, IS ALREADY THERE.

THE TWO BUILDING PLAN WOULD INCLUDE THE GROVE, THE THREE BUILDING PLAN ELIMINATES THE GROVE PARK, CORRECT? YEAH, OK.

AND THEN I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THIS.

THE THREE BUILDING VERSION WITH 60 UNITS IS ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

CAN YOU REMIND ME, WHAT'S THE TWO BUILDING VERSION WITH 58 UNITS? HOW MANY TOTAL SQUARES? IT'S ABOUT ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SIX THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

IT'S ABOUT A 2000 SQUARE FOOT DIFFERENCE.

OK, SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT LARGER BUILDINGS.

JUST TWO AND CERTAINLY.

YEAH, THE TWO, RIGHT? YEAH, OK.

AND YOU NOTE THAT THE THREE BUILDING VERSION WOULD LIKELY BE BUILT IN TWO PHASES.

ARE YOU COMMITTING THAT WE ARE PLANNING THAT THE TWO BUILDING VERSION WOULD BE BUILT IN ONE PHASE? YES, THAT WILL BE BUILT IN ONE PHASE.

OK.

OK.

AND YOU'D BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT IN AN APPROVAL? SURE.

YEAH.

AND THEN FINALLY, HAVE YOU ARE YOU GOING TO BE PROVIDING ANY SORT OF ELECTRICAL CHARGING STATIONS IN THIS AREA OF TOWN SQUARE LIKE WE HAVE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, IF YOU THOUGHT THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT? YES.

AND THAT'S REALLY FROM A RESIDENT REQUEST THAT CAN BECOME DEMANDS LIKE, OK, I WANT TO LIVE THERE, BUT I NEED TO HAVE AN ELECTRIC CHARGING STATION.

SO THAT'S AN OPTION THAT EXISTS IN PARKVIEW.

AND WE'LL HAVE THAT.

I MEAN, THESE NEW BUILDINGS, YOU GOT TO ANTICIPATE THINGS THAT REALLY AREN'T IN WIDESPREAD USE RIGHT NOW.

LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE A DRUM PAD FOR AIR DROPS BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE COMING.

RIGHT.

SO, YEAH, I THINK ABSOLUTELY WE'VE GOT TO PAY ATTENTION TO ENERGY NEEDS.

I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO WANT US TO DO THAT.

OK.

AND THEN THE FINAL ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT DATA, YOU'RE SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, WHAT WAS IT, ABOUT 14 SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN CURRENTLY LIVING IN 17? YEAH, 17 SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN IN THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AREA.

AND YOU'RE ANTICIPATING ROUGHLY 33 IF IT PROJECTS OUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NO, ACTUALLY, I'M PROJECTING LESS BECAUSE THE BROWNSTONE PROGRAM'S MOSTLY DONE.

THAT'S WHERE ALL THOSE KIDS ARE.

AND IT FLUCTUATES.

YOU KNOW, THE BROWNSTONES HAVE HAD LESS THAN 10.

17, I THINK IS THE HIGHEST THAT WE'VE GOTTEN.

BUT BUILDINGS LIKE PARKVIEW, THERE'S NO KIDS SHOWING UP.

I HAVEN'T TALKED TO, TAKE THAT BACK, I'VE TALKED TO ONE RESIDENT WHO WAS LOOKING AT LIVING IN PARKVIEW THAT DID HAVE A KID.

THEY WERE OLDER, NOT SURPRISINGLY.

BUT THE PRODUCTS THAT ARE LEFT, YOU KNOW, THESE LAST FIFTY EIGHT UNITS OF THE LAST THAT I'VE GOT TO BUILD WITH THE NATURE OF THAT PRODUCT IS JUST DOESN'T APPEAR TO ATTRACT FAMILIES AND KIDS.

AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS WITH THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.

WE DO HAVE 15 YEARS OF HISTORY IN OUR TOWN SQUARE WHERE THAT CLAUSE JUST ISN'T BEING INVOKED.

IT MAY HAVE BEEN INVOKED ONCE, BUT I WENT BACK AND CHECKED AND THE PERSON WHO HAD THE ABILITY TO INVOKE IT THAT KIDS NOW GONE, GROWN AND GONE.

BUT WE HAVEN'T CREATED A PRODUCT THAT IS APPEALING TO PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST TRYING TO THINK OF IT THIS WAY.

I WANT TO SAVE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHICH IS WHAT PRIVATE SCHOOL IS GOING TO COST IF I SEND MY KID TO PRIVATE SCHOOL.

SO I LOOK AT CARROLL, I GO, WELL, CARROLL'S LIKE PUTTING MY KID IN PRIVATE SCHOOL.

RIGHT? SO YOU'RE SAVING TWENTY FIVE GRAND TO MOVE INTO SOUTHLAKE AND USE THE GRANDPARENT CLAUSE.

YOU'RE SPENDING A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS ON A RESIDENCE TO MOVE INTO TOWN SQUARE TO SAVE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE GRANDPARENT CLAUSE.

PEOPLE AREN'T DOING IT.

WE'RE JUST NOT DESIGNED TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT

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RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS? I'VE GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

SO, ON THE PLAN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ZERO VISITOR PARKING IN THAT GARAGE WHATSOEVER.

CORRECT.

THE PER THE GARDEN DISTRICT REGULATIONS, THE VISITOR PARKING IS ON STREET.

SO WITH 60 UNITS AND FAMILIES THERE, WHERE THOSE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK IN THIS DEAL? ON PARK RIDGE AND MEETING STREET, WHICH IS BY DESIGN AND CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL 2011 AND THE 2013 CONCEPT PLANS.

WHAT ARE THE ODDS YOU INCREASE IN THAT GARAGE SO THAT WE DON'T FLOOD THE STREETS WITH MORE PARKING AND ACTUALLY HAVE SOME PLACE FOR VISITORS TO PARK WHEN THEY COME SPEND THE WEEKEND OR SPEND THE NIGHT OR? NOT GOOD, THAT PARKING IS GOING TO COST ABOUT THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A SPACE.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A SURPLUS IN TOWN SQUARE BY SOME ACCOUNTS OF OVER FOURTEEN HUNDRED CARS, VISITORS HAVE PLENTY OF PLACES TO PARK.

PUTTING THEM IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE ORIGINAL THREE BROWNSTONES ON MEETING STREET IN PARK RIDGE, WHICH IS NOW ONLY 30, WHICH I THINK IS GOING TO DROP TO TWENTY EIGHT.

SO WE'RE PICKING UP THERE WITH LOWER DENSITY AND NOW WE'RE GOING FROM 60 TO 50 APRIL PICKING UP MORE.

I'M SHOWING THAT WE'VE GOT AT LEAST 15 SURPLUS SPACES ON CURRENT STREETS, WHICH MEANS THERE'S NOT A NEED TO BUILD MORE STRUCTURED PARKING FOR IT.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING IN TOWN SQUARE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

YOU MENTIONED THAT IN THE THREE BUILDING PLAN, THE BUILDINGS WON'T BE NEAR AS NICE AS IN THE TWO BUILDING PLAN.

ELABORATE ON THAT.

PARKVIEW IS IS TYPE ONE CONSTRUCTION ALL CONCRETE.

WHEN PEOPLE, BECAUSE THE OTHER QUESTION THAT'S COME UP IS, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE FOR LEASE OR FOR SALE.

AND WE ANSWER THIS QUESTION BACK IN 2011, WE ANSWERED AGAIN IN THE 2013 HEARINGS, IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A BUILDING THAT IS FOR SALE, YOU HAVE TO STEP IT UP.

AND IN OUR EXPERIENCE, THAT MEANS TYPE ONE OR TYPE TWO BUILDINGS.

SO STEEL OR CONCRETE, NONCOMBUSTIBLE MATERIALS, YOU GET IN SOME NUANCES ON THE ROOF.

LET ME COMPARE THE ART HOUSE IN KELLER.

PERFECTLY NICE PROJECT.

IT WAS DESIGNED AND PROMOTED AS A CONDO PROJECT, BUT IT WAS BUILT WITH TYPE FIVE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE MOST APARTMENT BUILDINGS DESIGNED AND BUILT OUT OF AND A TYPE FIVE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING, SOUND ATTENUATION ELEMENTS, IT'S GOING TO MOVE A BIT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO AGE OVER TIME AS WELL.

AND OVER EXTENSIVE PERIODS OF TIME, IT WILL LOSE VALUE.

SO FOR US, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A HOME THAT'S GOING TO CREATE IN VALUE OVER THE YEARS, YOU'VE GOT TO PUT THE VALUE INTO THE STRUCTURE.

SO TAKE PARKVIEW BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, THE ZONING APPROVAL FOR THAT SUP HAD A PRE SALE REQUIREMENT.

IF WE HAD BUILT IT LIKE THE ART HOUSE IN KELLER WAS BUILT, WE COULD HAVE MET THE PRE SALE REQUIREMENT.

MOST OF THOSE CONTRACTS WOULD HAVE DROPPED OUT, IF NOT ALL, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO A RENTAL PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH WE MET THE PRE SALE REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDING.

SO YOU'VE HEARD THAT FROM A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS TONIGHT.

THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO GET THE BUILDING RIGHT.

BUT EVEN IF THE CITY HAD LEGISLATED TYPE ONE OR TYPE TWO CONSTRUCTION, THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY LEGISLATED THAT YOU DO THE PROPER CIVIL ENGINEERING TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THAT FOUNDATION.

PARKVIEW'S GOT, I BELIEVE, FROM MEMORY.

NINETY SIX PIERS DRILLED SOME OVER FIFTY FEET DEEP.

WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE DETAILS, NOT BECAUSE OF THE ZONING OR BECAUSE THE CITY SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE CARE, BECAUSE WE WANT THESE BUILDINGS TO HOLD UP OVER TIME.

THAT'S THE KIND OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL I THINK YOU PAY ATTENTION TO WITH FOR SALE BUILDINGS.

THE THREE BUILDING PLAN.

I JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO BUILD THREE CONCRETE BUILDINGS IN A THREE BUILDING PLAN.

SO THE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE.

NOW, WE CAN STILL MAKE THE FACADES LOOK RIGHT FOR.

DAVID SCHWARTZ HAS DESIGNED SOME GREAT BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT TYPE ONE OR TYPE TWO BUILDINGS.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE TRICKIER, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE IT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE LEVEL I'D LIKE TO IN A THREE BUILDING PLAN.

WE'RE JUST CARRYING TOO MUCH FACADE COST IN THE PRO FORMA.

FRANK, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE, BUT THE REALITY IS MARKET FORCES ARE GOING TO REQUIRE YOU TO BUILD THE THREE BUILDING PLAN OUT TO A CERTAIN LEVEL TO JUSTIFY THE PURCHASE.

YEAH.

SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE NEAR AS GOOD.

I SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE IT UP TO THAT LEVEL NOW, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE.

WHAT LEVEL WOULD YOU GO TO THREE, FOUR OR FIVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE LEVEL? I MEAN.

I DON'T KNOW.

YES.

UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, I COULD.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M KNOWN FOR.

CAN WE AS A COUNCIL MAKE A DEMAND ON THAT LEVEL OR NOT?

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SO THERE MAY BE A KEN BAKER QUESTION.

KEN, WHAT? SO YOU CAN, BECAUSE IT'S NOT CODIFIED IN THE ORIGINAL ZONING DOCUMENT, IF IT WAS A REQUIREMENT OF THE ZONING WAS IN PLACE AND YOU COULD ENFORCE THAT, BUT YOU CANNOT ADD ANY CONDITIONS BEYOND WHAT'S IN THE EXISTING ZONING DOCUMENT TODAY, WHICH IT IS NOT.

SO ONCE AGAIN YOU GET TO THANK THE 2010 AND 2013 COUNCIL FOR THIS.

SO, KEN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, AS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT, DID THE SUP FOR PARKVIEW INCLUDE BUILDING LEVEL REQUIREMENTS OR ANY OF THEM? NO IT DENIED THAT THE PRE SALE REQUIREMENT RESTRICTION REQUIREMENTS? SO WE YEAH, THE COUNCIL THAT APPROVED PARKVIEW IN 2013 DID NOT, HAD THE SAME RESTRICTIONS.

AND FRANK BUILT TO THE QUALITY THAT IT'S BUILT TODAY BECAUSE OF MARKET FORCES, PRESUMABLY.

NO, YOU CAN BUILD TWO DIFFERENT MARKETS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE WANTED ON THAT SITE.

THERE YOU GO.

YEAH, OK.

BUT THE POINT IS WE DIDN'T RESTRICT THE QUALITY BUILDING AND YOU BUILT PARKVIEW.

YEP, AND WE DID BELIEVE THAT THAT MARKET WAS THERE.

NOW IT TAKES LONGER TO TAKE UP UNITS THAT ARE AVERAGING OVER A MILLION BUCKS.

BUT THE MARKET'S THERE.

SURE.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE, IF WE GO TO THE THREE UNITS AND YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO SPLIT INTO TWO PHASES, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD.

ARE YOU GOING TO COMMIT TO BUILD THE TWO THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS? YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER RELATIVELY TIMELY MANNER, NOT THE 10 YEARS IT TOOK TO GET HERE.

AND THEN WHAT WOULD YOU LOOK AT FOR THE TIME FRAME, FOR THE THIRD EXPENSIVE BUILDING GOING UP? AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME FRAME FOR THE FIRST TWO WOULD BE, LET ALONE THE THIRD.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE IN TWO PHASES, BUT IT IS A PHASABLE PLAN WHERE THE TWO BUILDING PLAN IS NOT A PHASABLE PLAN.

AND I'M GUESSING WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO DICTATE ANY TIMING ON THAT EITHER.

THAT IS CORRECT.

WE ARE PLAYING THE HAND WE ARE DEALT.

GOOD QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BLISS? WELL, SPEAKING OF PLAYING THE HAND THAT WE'RE DEALT.

YES, MR. ROBBINS, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE ARE SUBJECT TO WHAT 2011 AND 2013 COUNCILS HAVE DONE.

HOWEVER, I LIKE WHAT FRANK DOES.

I THINK HE PRODUCES A QUALITY PRODUCT.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.

OBVIOUSLY OUR HANDS ARE A LITTLE TIED HERE.

I THINK EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE NOW KNOWS THAT.

BUT I DO WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE GROWTH.

SO IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THE TWO BUILDING SITE PLAN, WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE? WE'VE TAKEN IT OFF OF CITY, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UPHELD.

BUT WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, AS FAR AS AMENITIES, WALKABILITY, TRAILS? WILL THERE BE BENCHES WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE SPECIFICALLY? YEAH.

SO IT SHOULD TAKE A STEP BACK.

ONE OF OUR INSPIRATIONS FOR THE PARKS SYSTEM IN TOWN SQUARE WAS BOSTON.

BOSTON HAS AN ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS CHAIN OF PARKS.

AND WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT TOWN SQUARE PARKS AS PART OF A LONGER JOURNEY SO THAT WHEN YOU COME HERE, WHEREVER YOU GO, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME OPEN SPACE.

BUT THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN CHARACTER.

SO THE FAMILY PARK AND RUSTON PARK IN FRONT OF TOWN HALL INSPIRATIONS FOR THAT CAME FROM CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, SAVANNAH, GEORGIA.

BUT IT WASN'T AN EXACT MATCH BECAUSE AS I FOUND OUT LATER, UNFORTUNATELY NOT UNTIL MY PARTNER BRIAN [INAUDIBLE] WAS PASSED AWAY, THAT WASHINGTON, IOWA HAS A PARK, THAT, OH, MY GOD, HAS ELEMENTS OF OUR PARKS RIGHT IN FRONT OF TOWN HALL.

SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE PARKS FROM OUR FORMAL PROGRAM, THE PARK BY 1709 WAS PROGRAM FOR THE LAKE CITIES BAND SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A GREAT PLACE TO DO PERFORMANCES FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

SUMMIT PARK BY THE BROWNSTONES, MUCH MORE NATURAL.

AND THAT WAS BY DESIGN.

WE HAD A LOT OF GRADE THERE ARE A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL OAK TREES AND WE WANTED TO PRESERVE WHAT WE COULD.

THE GROVE BACK IN THE DAY HAD IT WAS SORT OF TRANSITION FROM SOME POST OAKS AND WHITE OAKS TO UNDERSTORY TREE SPECIMENS.

AND YOU WORKED YOUR WAY DOWN TO A POND BY THE TIME YOU GOT DOWN TO 114.

SO THE IDEA IS LET'S GO BACK AND CELEBRATE THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE A MORE OF A PASTORAL PARK, PROBABLY COASTAL, SOMETHING LIKE COASTAL BERMUDA FOR THE FOR THE GRASS UNDERNEATH TREES.

UNFORTUNATELY, POST OAK AND WHITE OAK DON'T LIKE TO BE TRANSPLANTED.

SO WE DON'T THINK THAT SPECIES CAN SURVIVE.

BUT WE THINK BLACKJACK OAK THERE WILL BE AT LEAST ONE LIVE OAK.

AND THE REASON FOR THE LIVE OAK, AGAIN, WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO VIEW CORRIDORS

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AND WE WANT THIS TO FEEL REALLY SORT OF PASTORAL.

SO WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO KEEP ITS LEAVES DURING THE WINTER SO YOU DON'T EVER HAVE THE CHANCE TO LOOK ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.

BUT WE ALSO ARE PICKING SPECIMENS THAT ARE ABLE TO LIVE HUNDREDS OF YEARS THAT CAN ACHIEVE SPANS OF 60 TO 80 FEET, IN SOME CASES MORE, BECAUSE WE WANT JUST LIKE A GOOD BUILDING INCREASE IN VALUE OVER TIME, A TREE PROPERLY PLANTED WITH THE SPECIES RIGHT, THAT CAN AGE THAT LONG.

THOSE TREES BECOME REALLY VALUABLE ASSETS.

SO IF YOU THINK OF COASTAL BERMUDA ON THE FLOOR AND THESE NOT TONS OF TREES, BUT CAREFULLY SELECTED TREES THAT CREATE YOUR CANOPY, THERE'S MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BENCH SEATING FOR SORT OF THIS MEANDERING CRESTONE PATH THAT WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH IT.

THERE'S AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR YOU TO WALK YOUR DOG, HAVE A MEETING.

WE HAVEN'T GOT IT FULLY PROGRAMED YET.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE DESIGN INTENT FOR IT.

GOOD QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER PATTEN.

IF I COULD ADD, THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC PARK.

THAT WILL NOT BE JUST FOR RESIDENTS USE.

FRANK OVER HERE.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU WITHOUT THE HAT.

YEAH.

YEAH, I CAN PUT IT BACK ON IF IT'D HELP YOU.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR FIVE YEARS.

I'VE KNOWN THAT YOU'VE HAD THESE 60 UNITS BY RIGHT THE WHOLE TIME I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

AND I'M JUST SURPRISED IT HASN'T COME BEFORE US SOONER THAN NOW.

AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I'M KNOWING THAT I HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE BETWEEN TWO UNITS OR TWO BUILDINGS OR THREE BUILDINGS, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE NATURAL GREEN SPACE THAT I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN THIS WAS SHOWN TO ME AND KNOWING WHERE WE WERE AND WHAT OUR OPTIONS WERE AT THAT TIME.

I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF THE MODERN VERSION OF WHAT YOU PRESENTED HERE.

THE TWO BUILDING CONCEPT, IT'S A FEW LESS UNITS CERTAINLY IS MORE APPEALING.

I LOVE THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO BURY MOST OF THIS PARKING GARAGE AT GRADE OR JUST SLIGHTLY ABOVE GRADE IN SOME AREAS.

I THINK FROM AN EFFORT PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S NO DOUBT YOU SPEND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME GETTING TO WHERE YOU ARE HERE.

AND SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE PALATABLE FOR SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF WHO'S BEEN SITTING HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER, KNOWING THAT THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHAT WE HAVE TO JUST RECOGNIZE IS THAT WE'RE NOT VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT THESE UNITS ARE ALLOWED TO BE HERE OR REALLY JUST VOTING ON WHICH CONCEPT IS BEST SUITED FOR OUR COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

RIGHT.

WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

AND SO I THINK WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THAT, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THAT, ONE THING THAT HAS RESONATED WITH US FROM THE VERY BEGINNING IS TRYING TO IDENTIFY MORE OPEN SPACE.

AND EVERY TIME THAT WE LOOK AS A COMMUNITY TO TRY TO ACQUIRE OPEN SPACE, IT'S PART OF OUR OUR OUR BEHIND THE SCENES DISCUSSIONS ON HOW WE CAN ACQUIRE OPEN SPACE.

RIGHT.

AND SO I COMMEND YOU FOR FINDING MORE OPEN SPACE WHERE I DIDN'T THINK WE WOULD EVER SEE IT.

SO JUST COMMENTS, I GUESS.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

I THINK IT'S BEEN PRETTY WELL SPELLED OUT UP TO THIS POINT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU DOING WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE TO GIVE US A BETTER PRODUCT THAN WHAT WE HAD.

THANK YOU.

PREVIOUSLY.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FRANK AT THIS POINT? YEAH, I'VE GOT ONE MORE SORRY.

I'M SORRY IF YOU WON'T COMMIT ON THE THREE BUILDING TIME FRAME.

DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF COMMITMENT ON THE TWO BUILDING TIME FRAME? I MEAN, IT TOOK YOU 10 YEARS TO GET HERE.

I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THIS FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS? I'D LOVE FOR ANOTHER COUNCIL NOT TO GET SADDLED WITH THE 2010 DECISION AND 25 OR 26 OR 30.

I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE IN SUCH A DIFFERENT MARKETPLACE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK BECAUSE OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND THE FACT THAT WE STILL HAVE UNITS LEFT TO SELL AT PARKVIEW, I DON'T SEE IT STARTING IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

BUT THE REASON I PUT 2024 ON THE BUILDING, AS YOU KNOW, WE STAMP EACH PHASE WITH A DATE SO THAT IT'S A GOOD SCAVENGER HUNT THING FOR SCHOOL KIDS TO COME INTO TOWN SQUARE AND FIND THIS NUMBER OR FIND THAT LITTLE DETAIL.

2024 MEANS THAT WE STARTED THIS PROJECT EITHER LATE 2022 OR EARLY 2023.

I THINK THAT'S REALISTIC ON THE TWO BUILDINGS, THE THREE BUILDINGS, WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE REALIZED THAT WE COULDN'T TAKE IT UP THE WAY WE WANTED TO BECAUSE WE WERE LEARNING FROM PARKVIEW.

SO I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THAT PRODUCT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T STUDIED IT.

QUITE HONESTLY, AS MUCH AS WE'VE STUDIED TWO BUILDINGS, WE MADE THE SWITCH IN 2019 WHEN WE REALIZED THAT THE THREE BUILDING PLAN WASN'T GOING TO ALLOW US TO DELIVER WHAT WE WANTED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

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I JUST KNOW IT'S REALLY, REALLY CHOPPY.

AND UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THE CHOP, IT'S HARD TO PREDICT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? FRANK, YOU CAN TAKE A SEAT.

THANK YOU.

NO PROMISES.

WE WON'T HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, THOUGH.

I DO HAVE ONE MORE FOR DIRECTOR BAKER.

SO WE'VE GOT TWO OPTIONS IN FRONT OF US, WE'VE GOT OPTION A, WHICH IS TWO BUILDINGS PLUS A PARK OPEN SPACE.

WE'VE GOT OPTION B, WHICH IS THREE BUILDINGS MINUS THE OPEN SPACE.

MY QUESTION IS THIS.

AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, SO I DIDN'T ASK YOU BEFOREHAND WHAT ASSURANCE DOES THE COMMUNITY HAVE THAT MR. BLISS OR FUTURE PROPERTY OWNER ISN'T GOING TO COME BACK AND REQUEST ANOTHER BUILDING IF WE APPROVE THE TWO BUILDING PLAN, THAT HE'S NOT GOING TO COME BACK AND REQUEST A THIRD BUILDING ON THE GROVE? BECAUSE IF WE APPROVE THIS WITH THE ASSUMPTION IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN SPACE, I DON'T WANT TO BAIT AND SWITCH.

SO WOULD THAT REQUIRE A ZONING CHANGE AT THAT POINT OR THIS MAY BE AN ALLEN TAYLOR QUESTION? IT WOULD BE A NEW ZONING CASE BECAUSE HE IS SUBMITTING A SITE PLAN AND REPRESENTING IT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN APPROVED IN 2013.

GOTCHA.

THE COUNCIL ACTS ON THIS.

IT'S LOCKED DOWN.

OK, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ANY FURTHER CHANGES, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A REZONING CASE SUBMITTED TO START THROUGH THE PROCESS AND TO BE CLEAR REZONING CASES ARE CASES IN WHICH COUNCIL HAS COMPLETE DISCRETION, DISCRETION.

WE WOULD BE BACK TO THE USE ISSUE.

SO WE WILL NOT HAVE A SITE PLAN DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY FUTURE THIRD BUILDING IF THIS IS APPROVED.

THERE WON'T BE ANY MORE STILL APPROACHES TO THIS.

THIS IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FINAL VESTED RIGHTS ISSUE ON THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT.

AND THIS IS TO SO TO POINT, THIS IS THE FINAL RESIDENTIAL USE IN TOWN SQUARE.

THIS IS IT.

THE FINAL ONE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

AND WE'VE TAKEN ACTION BY A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL TO REZONE PROPERTY.

AND I THINK ALL OF US ANTICIPATE HOW LIKELY THAT WOULD EVER BE.

I THINK SO.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR, BECAUSE IF WE PROCEED WITH THE TWO BUILDING PLAN, WITH THE EXPECTATION, THE ASSUMPTION OF THE OPEN SPACE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ABSENT A ZONING CHANGE BY A FUTURE COUNCIL THAT THAT WE WILL NOT SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

OK, PERFECT.

OK, SO THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD DISCUSSION.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GIVE EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY ON THE DAIS ONE MORE CHANCE TO SAY ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SAY OR GIVE A DISCUSSION.

SO WE'LL GO AROUND THE HORN, START WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT, TO THE RESIDENTS FOR STAYING LATE TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

IT'S VALUED.

I MEAN, THIS ONE IS REAL SIMPLE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

WE HAVE A LEGAL MANDATE ON THIS CASE.

THIS IS I THINK NO MATTER HOW THE NARRATIVE IS SHAPED BY INDIVIDUALS, THIS SHIP SAILED TEN YEARS AGO IN 2011, THE MOMENT THAT VOTE OCCURRED, THIS WAS RESIDENTIAL AND IT WAS TEN BUILDINGS.

EVER SINCE THAT TIME, SUBSEQUENT COUNCILS HAVE REDUCED, REDUCED, REDUCED.

AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO REDUCE AGAIN TONIGHT AND ADD A PARK.

SO WE'RE NOT VOTING FOR HIGH DENSITY HERE.

WE'RE VOTING FOR WHICH VERSION WE WANT BUILT BASED UPON WHAT 2011 VOTED FOR, WHICH WAS HIGH DENSITY SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN TORRES-LEPP.

I'M GOING TO REITERATE ALMOST WORD FOR WORD WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

IT'S OK.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE RAN AN ELECTION HERE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO AND GOT ELECTED, I WAS A LITTLE BIT BLINDSIDED BY THE FACT THAT MY VERY FIRST MEETING WOULD INCLUDE THIS AGENDA ITEM.

HOWEVER, I'VE MET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.

I'VE EXTENSIVE MEETINGS WITH KEN BAKER.

I'VE ACTUALLY GONE BACK AND RE WATCHED ALL OF THE 2011 MEETINGS, AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHO VOTED AND WHO DIDN'T AND AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE AND THOSE TEN BUILDINGS THAT WERE APPROVED.

AND AND I REALLY I MEAN, I'VE LIVED HERE A LONG, LONG, LONG TIME.

AND I REALLY DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT THAT ZONING WAS IN PLACE AND THAT THIS COUNCIL REALLY DOES NOT HAVE A CHOICE.

THIS IS NOT A VOTE ABOUT HIGH DENSITY, AS I THINK THAT WE'VE MADE VERY, VERY CLEAR TONIGHT.

THIS IS A VOTE ABOUT WHICH PLAN WE LIKE BETTER.

DO WE LIKE SIXTY UNITS AND THREE BUILDINGS OR DO WE LIKE FIFTY EIGHT IN TWO BUILDINGS WITH A PARK? AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CRYSTAL CLEAR AS WELL.

AND YOU SIT HERE AND, AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU RUN YOUR CAMPAIGN AND YOU SAY YOU DON'T YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T LIKE HIGH DENSITY AND WE DON'T WANT HIGH DENSITY AND ALL THE CITIZENS TELL YOU THAT.

AND AND SO I FEEL MYSELF IN A REALLY UNIQUE SPOT HERE TONIGHT.

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AND THAT'S WHAT LEADERS DO.

AND I AM HAPPILY YOUR NEW PLACE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOUGH DECISION.

BUT THANK YOU.

WELL SAID.

COUNCILMAN SMITH.

WOW.

I GOT ELECTED TWO YEARS AGO.

THIS HAS BEEN A VERY INTERESTING TWO YEARS, BY THE WAY.

WOW.

SO I WROTE DOWN THREE QUESTIONS.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MUST ME [INAUDIBLE] SIT UP A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, AND THIS IS A DISCUSSION WITH US, THREE UNITS WERE APPROVED CORRECT FOR THIS SPOT.

THREE BUILDINGS RIGHT.

THREE BUILDINGS.

RIGHT.

AND TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON TWO OPTIONS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO VOTES, CORRECT? PROBABLY MAKE 1 MAKE ONE MOTION.

AND HE SAID A COUPLE AT LEAST TWICE THAT HE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE HE CAN MAKE IT AT THE SAME QUALITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, I JUST WROTE THAT DOWN.

THAT'S WHAT I GOT.

AND WELL SAID.

COUNCILWOMAN TALLEY.

WELL, YEAH, IT'S TOUGH IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE WILL HAVE LIVED HERE 25 YEARS, LOVE SOUTHLAKE HAVE LOVED WATCHING IT GROW.

WHEN WE MOVED HERE ALMOST 25 YEARS AGO, WHERE WE ARE ALL SITTING TONIGHT WAS GRASS AND TREES.

CENTRAL MARKET WAS A FIELD WITH HORSES.

PARK VILLAGE WAS TREES.

YOU COULD CROSS ONE, YOU COULD TAKE HIGHLAND TO 114.

LOOK ONE WAY A STOP SIGN, LOOK ONE WAY, GO TO THE MIDDLE, LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND CROSS 114 LITERALLY AT STOP SIGNS.

SO IT'S BEEN A IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO LIVE HERE.

I LOVE LIVING HERE.

LIKE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO SPOKE TONIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE MOVE HERE BECAUSE WE LOVE IT.

WE LOVE THE SMALL TOWN FEEL AND WE WANT TO STAY HERE.

AND I HAD THE HONOR OF BEING IN NATIONAL LEAGUE WITH PATTY STEBBINS AND HER DAUGHTER JENNA.

AND IN TALKING TO HER OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, THIS PLACE WAS BRIAN'S VISION.

AND IT HAS BEEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT'S BEEN.

AND I KNOW, FRANK, YOU COULD TALK TO THIS FAR BETTER THAN I COULD, BUT I DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME FROM FAR AND WIDE ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO MODEL THEIR CITIES AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN THEIR CITIES AFTER TOWN SQUARE AND AFTER WHAT WHAT HAS BEEN BUILT HERE.

SO AND HIS VISION WAS THAT THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE, WORK, PLAY, DINE, SHOP, DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

AND SO IT'S BEEN GREAT TO SEE THAT COME TO FRUITION WITH THE BROWNSTONES.

BUT, YES, YOU KNOW, WE NONE OF US WHO LIVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE EITHER, YOU KNOW, WANT TO TALK ABOUT HIGH DENSITY, BUT THAT'S WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2011 AND 2013.

SO THE DECISION TONIGHT IS TOUGH.

BUT I DO LIKE THE OPTION WITH THE PARK.

I'M ALL FOR GREEN SPACES.

I LIVE ON SOME GREEN SPACE MYSELF.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THE STATISTICS WERE INTERESTING ABOUT THE AGING POPULATION.

I KNOW IT FROM TALKING TO RESIDENTS.

I THINK WE'VE ALL TALKED TO RESIDENTS WHO LIKE ME AND LIKE MARY LEE.

WE'VE MOVED HERE.

WE WANT TO STAY HERE.

WE WANT TO RETIRE HERE.

WE WANT TO GROW OLD HERE.

AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN AND TO ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE.

SO IT'S IT'S TOUGH.

BUT I ALSO KNOW, AS SOME PEOPLE HAVE SPOKE TO, THAT FRANK DOES BUILD A SUPER HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT.

WE'VE SEEN THAT IN ALL THE BUILDINGS AROUND HERE IN TOWN SQUARE.

SO I, I LIKE SOME OTHERS.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE QUESTION AROUND A THIRD BUILDING AND WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE PRODUCT WISE VERSUS THE OTHER TWO.

SO I FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE TWO.

SO ANYWAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBINS.

I GUESS THE THE WORD THAT WOULD DESCRIBE ME TONIGHT IS JUST DISAPPOINTED.

I MEAN, I'M DISAPPOINTED IT TOOK YOU TEN YEARS TO GET HERE AND WE'RE SADDLED WITH THE DECISION FROM 2011.

AND I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU WON'T COMMIT TO, EVEN IF WE APPROVE SOMETHING, DOING SOMETHING IN ANY KIND OF TIMELY MANNER THAT WE MAY BE SADDLED WITH FOR ANOTHER FIVE OR TEN YEARS WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE OTHER [INAUDIBLE] APPRECIATIVE OF ME GROWING UP IN HURFORD AND HAVING SHOVELED MANURE.

AND I GUESS IT PREPARED ME MORE THAN I THOUGHT FOR WHAT I FEEL

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I DON'T LIKE IT.

I MEAN, I DON'T LIKE THAT WE'RE HAMSTRUNG BY A COUNCIL FROM TEN YEARS AGO THAT NOW SOME OF THOSE THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SOME OF THE MOST VOCAL IN OPPOSITION TO YOU.

BUT YET THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GAVE YOU YOUR APPROVAL TEN YEARS AGO.

SO I'M WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

THIS DECISIONS TOUGH AND IT STINKS.

WELL SAID, COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I THINK I KIND OF SPOKE MY PIECE EARLIER WHEN I WAS GIVING FRANK SOME FEEDBACK.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I SEE THE PROPOSAL THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.

I GUESS THE TWO BUILDING CONCEPT IS REALLY SUBSTANTIALLY IN CONFIRMATION, CONFORMING TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED PER THE EXISTING CONCEPT PLAN.

AND AS I ALREADY REFERENCED, THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO ADD GREEN SPACE TO TOWN SQUARE, THAT CANDIDLY, I DIDN'T THINK WE WOULD SEE IS INVITING TO ME KNOWING THAT THE ONLY CHOICE I HAVE IS BETWEEN OPTION A AND OPTION B, AND YOU ARE CORRECT, WE ARE SADDLED WITH DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE IN OUR PAST.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS NOTHING ELSE IT'S I THINK IT'S A VERY VALUABLE LESSON FOR SOME OF OUR NEWER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND AS WELL AS OUR SEASON COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WHEN WE DO MAKE ZONING CHANGES WHEN WE DO HAVE A ZONING CASE IN FRONT OF US, WE NEED TO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

WE CAN'T FORCE A DEVELOPER TO INITIATE CONSTRUCTION BASED ON OUR DESIRED TIMELINE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.

WHAT WE DO IS WE IDENTIFY WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY BASED ON THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US, BASED OFF THE LAND USE PLAN THAT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND THAT WE WORK FROM, THAT WE RECOMMEND LANDOWNERS AND OR FUTURE APPLICANTS TO COME FORWARD WITH.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO MANAGE THROUGH THAT ZONING AND OR VARIANCE PROCESS AS IT COMES BEFORE US.

SO I SEE THIS AS AN EXERCISE FOR ALL OF US TO ENSURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GETTING OURSELVES INTO.

AND FOR THOSE THAT HAVE RAN BEFORE US AND THOSE THAT WILL RUN AFTER US FOR COUNCIL, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU PROMISE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CONTROL EVERYTHING THAT YOU THINK YOU CONTROL UP HERE.

WE CAN ONLY CONTROL OUR CONTROLLABLES.

AND TONIGHT WE HAVE A VERY NARROW WINDOW ON WHAT WE CAN CONTROL.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR BETWEEN THE TWO OF THE MORE MODERN TWO BUILDING VERSION THAT PROVIDES MORE GREEN SPACE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WELL SAID, BEFORE WE CALL FOR A VOTE, I'LL SAY I YOU KNOW, TO ME, THIS IS A CHOICE BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS AND A PARK AND THREE BUILDINGS.

YOU GUYS HEARD FROM THE ATTORNEY THAT TO REITERATE THE USE IS ALREADY IN THE BOOKS.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THROUGH THIS ACTION THAT WE ARE WRAPPING UP THE LAST PHASE OF ENTITLED RESIDENTIAL IN TOWN SQUARE.

WE'RE ALSO LOCKING IN A GREAT GREEN SPACE THAT'S GOING TO BE AMENITY NOT ONLY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S GOING TO BE AMENITY FOR THE REST OF THE CITIZENS, WHICH I, FOR ONE, WILL ABSOLUTELY ENJOY WHEN IT'S BUILT.

SO TO ME, THIS VOTE TONIGHT IS ABOUT GOOD DESIGN.

TO ME, THIS VOTE IS ABOUT INCREASED GREEN SPACE.

THAT'S A PROMISE WE ALSO MADE IN OUR CAMPAIGN.

AND, YOU KNOW, ANY TIME WE CAN TAKE DOWN LAND THAT WAS GOING TO BE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, WE COULD TURN INTO GREEN SPACES IS IS GOOD IN MY BOOK.

BUT THIS IS ALSO A VOTE, I THINK, AND A DISCUSSION ABOUT GOOD GOVERNMENT.

SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS SEVEN CITY VOLUNTEERS, ALL OF WHOM ARE INCREDIBLY THOUGHTFUL AND INCREDIBLY FULL OF INTEGRITY, WHO'VE ALL LIVED HERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

AND YOU HEARD SOME OF THEIR STORIES, THEIR BACKGROUND, AND YOU KNOW YOU KNOW US.

WE'RE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND YOU KNOW WHERE WE COME FROM.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU TO KNOW AND THIS IS A TOUGH CASE FOR OUR OPENING ACT.

HOPEFULLY NEXT MEETING IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER, KEN BAKER.

BUT I'M GLAD YOU GUYS GOT TO SEE HOW THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO COMPORT ITSELF.

WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO GIVE YOU CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU THE FACTS AND JUST THE FACTS.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE EDITORIALIZING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE ANGRY FACEBOOK PAGES TO LEARN ABOUT THESE CASES.

YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN ABOUT THEM FROM US.

AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU WILL ALWAYS, ALWAYS GET TRANSPARENCY AND DISCUSSION.

YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION OUT HERE AND YOU HEARD A LOT OF CONTEMPLATIVE THOUGHTS, A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS, HARD QUESTIONS.

THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HIRED US AND ELECTED US TO ASK, WE'LL CONTINUE TO ASK, THOUGH.

SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY HERE FOR ENGAGING IN THIS PROCESS.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME IT'S 10:41.

I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AN ENGAGED SOUTHLAKE WITH ENGAGED CITIZENS MAKES US A BETTER COUNCIL.

SO THANK YOU.

IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, ALL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

JUST TO MAKE SURE ON THE MOTION A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED ARE CAPTURED IN THERE.

I DO WANT TO VERIFY.

SO WE ARE NOT ACCEPTING A PARK DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE

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YES.

PARK IS.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS MR. BLISS.

PUBLIC PARK.

BUT WE'RE NOT.

YEAH, IT'S NOT DEDICATED TO THE CITY.

IT'S RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER.

AND THEN ALSO, MR. BLISS DID COMMIT TO BUILDING IF THE MOTION IS FOR TWO TO DO TO TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBIN'S POINT.

WHILE WE CAN'T FORCE THE TIMELINE OF WHEN WE CAN PLACE IN THE MOTION WHAT THE DEVELOPER MR. BLISS IS COMMITTED TO, WHICH TO BUILD THE TWO BUILDINGS TOGETHER.

AND I'D LIKE TO ADD IN THERE THAT A CONTINGENCY OF ISSUING A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS THAT THE TWO BUILDINGS WOULD BE COMPLETED SUBSTANTIVELY AT THE SAME TIME AND THAT STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO TO ADMINISTER THAT MR. BLISS'S NODDING AGREEMENT.

SO I THINK WHAT THAT GIVES US IS, TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBINS'S POINT, WE WILL THIS GIVES US THE BEST LIKELIHOOD THAT WE WON'T HAVE TWO BUILDINGS BEGIN AND THEN JUST STOP AND SIT THERE FOR YEARS.

I THINK MR. BLISS FINANCIALLY WOULD NOT WANT TO TAKE ON A PROJECT IF HE WEREN'T READY TO START IT AND FINISH IT.

SO IF THAT SITS EMPTY FOR YEARS, I'M OK WITH A LOT SITTING EMPTY.

WHAT I WANT TO AVOID IS A LOT BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION AND SITTING THERE FOREVER IN THE MIDST OF IT.

SO I THINK BY PUTTING THE CO REQUIREMENT, THAT GIVES US A BIT OF PROTECTION THERE, YOU KNOW, VERY GOOD POINTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON, DID YOU CAPTURE THOSE.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'LL GIVE IT A GO.

YEAH, GIVE IT A SHOT.

OK.

OH HE'S GOT TO THROWN IT IN THERE EARLY.

RANDY.

OK, SEE WHERE WE ARE.

HE'S DONE A FEW OF THESE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE READY FOR MOTION.

YES, SIR.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6B OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ZA21-0025.

THE SITE PLAN FOR THE GARDEN DISTRICT RESIDENCES IS ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT ONE AND A PORTION OF LOT TWO.

BLOCK TWENTY THE GARDEN DISTRICT IN PHASE C BROWNSTONES, IN ADDITION TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TARRANT COUNTY, TEXAS, AND LOCATED AT 301 AND 351 CENTRAL AVENUE SOUTHLAKE SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 11TH, 2021.

THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED APRIL 30TH, 2021.

NOTING APPROVAL OF OPTION A, WHICH IS THE TWO BUILDING SITE PLAN AS PRESENTED, ALSO NOTING A SINGLE PHASE DEVELOPMENT WITH BOTH BUILDINGS BEING PARDON ME, WITH BOTH BUILDINGS RECEIVING THEIR CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY BASED ON ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS UPON PROPER COMPLETION, DIRECTOR BAKER.

DO WE NEED TO NOTE IN THERE AT ALL ABOUT THE PARK BEING OR WAS THE APPLICATION ALREADY THAT WAY.

THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE CONCEPT PLAN INDICATES THAT WHICH WILL BE ESSENTIALLY OPEN SPACE, BUT A PRIVATE PARK OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

PERFECTLY OK, WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

IF THIS MOTION DOESN'T CARRY DOES IT IMMEDIATELY, GO TO OPTION B OR WHAT? WHAT WHAT OCCURS WITH THAT? IF THE MOTION DOESN'T CARRY, SOMEONE ELSE CAN MAKE A MOTION.

IF THERE'S OK, MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH, THE MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.

THANK YOU, MR. BLISS.

OK, WITH THAT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX, WHICH I'M SURE EVERYONE

[6.C. Ordinance No. 480-533B, (ZA21-0028), 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Site Plan for 3220 W. Southlake Blvd. on property described as Lot 14, J.G. Allen No. 18 Addition, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 3220 W. Southlake Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District Requested Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #11. PUBLIC HEARING]

NO, ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE OPEN THIS ITEM, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

WE WILL BE BACK AT 10:50.

THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE FACADE PARKING, EVERYTHING WILL REMAIN THE SAME, IT'S JUST ALLOWING THIS PARTICULAR USE TO OPERATE IN THE BUILDING.

YOU HAD SOME DISCUSSION AT YOUR FIRST READING.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR BAKER.

COUNCIL MEMBER TORRES-LEPP AND ROBBINS I KNOW YOU GUYS DIDN'T SEE THE FIRST READING AS YOU'RE REVIEWING THIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR ARE THEY OK? OK, WELL, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? I SUPPOSE THE APPLICANT CAN GIVE A PRESENTATION IF YOU LIKE.

THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

SO TYPICALLY IT'S BEST TO KEEP YOUR SEAT.

THERE YOU GO.

OK, GREAT.

WELL, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO SO.

SEEING NONE.

WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.

AND ARE YOU READY FOR MOTION? YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I APPROVE.

WE I MOTION AND MOVE WE APPROVE.

CANNOT APPROVE BY YOURSELF CHAD.

PRETTY PRESUMPTUOUS OF YOU MAYOR PRO TEM.

I MOVE THAT I GO TO BED IN ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES.

IT'S PAST MY CURFEW.

OK, LET ME START OVER.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6C OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480533B ZA 21-0028 SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR 3220 W

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THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE LOCATED AT 3220 W SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 11TH, 2021 AND THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED APRIL 16TH.

2021 NOTING ALLOWING THE RETAIL SALES OF MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS IN APPROXIMATELY THIRTY THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SQUARE FEET OF THE SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE SQUARE FEET FOOT BUILDING, AND NOTING THAT ALL OTHER EXISTING SP-1 REGULATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY REMAIN IN PLACE.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION IS THERE A SECOND.

SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

AND THAT ITEM PASSES SEVEN TO ZERO, CONGRATULATIONS.

OK, MOVING ON, WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 9A SV 21-0008 SIGN VARIANCE FOR FIVE BELOW

[9A. SV21-0008, Sign Variance for Five Below located at 2910 E. Southlake Blvd.]

DIRECTOR BAKER.

MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THIS IS A VARIANCE REQUEST TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE 704J AND THE GATEWAY PLAZA MASTER SIGN PLAN FOR THE BUILDING.

THE TENANT SPACE UNDER CONSIDERATION TO ALLOW BACKER PLATE FOR THE FIVE BELOW SIGN AND TO ALLOW A BLUE BACKGROUND TENANT PANELS ONTO TOWER MONUMENT SIGNS.

NEITHER OF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE PERMITTED EITHER IN THE GATEWAY PLAZA ONE MASTER SIGN PLAN OR OUR EXISTING SIGN ORDINANCE.

THIS IS THE LOCATION, THE PROPERTY.

IT'S IN THE OLD DRESS BARN TENANT SPACE LOCATED IN GATEWAY PLAZA ONE.

THIS IS JUST A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE TENANT SPACE.

TENANT SPACE THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 370 FEET OFF OF 1709.

THE TWO TOWER FEATURES ARE INDICATED ON THIS EXHIBIT BY THE YELLOW CIRCLES, ONES AT THE WESTERN DRIVE INTO THE GATEWAY PLAZA ONE.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE DOWN AT THE GATEWAY 14709 BRIDGE INTERSECTION.

THE FIRST REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE BLUE BACKER PLATE ON THE SIGN AS PRESENTED IN THE EXHIBIT.

THE THE LETTERING ON THE SIGN, THE FIVE BELOW MEETS ALL THE OTHER SIGN REQUIREMENTS AND CONDITIONS IN TERMS OF THE WHITE COLOR AND CHANNEL.

THESE NEXT SLIDE SHOW SOME EXISTING SIGNS THROUGH THE GOOGLE EARTH, THE ULTA, [INAUDIBLE] DRESS BARN LOCATION, THE JUSTICE.

THESE ARE THESE WOULD BE LEGACY SIGNS.

SO NOW THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, IN ORDER TO HAVE THE RED OR THE NON NEUTRAL COLOR, THEY HAVE TO BE A REVERSE CHANNEL TYPE LETTER, THE BED, BATH AND BEYOND AND TJ MAX, WHICH HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A WHILE, THE ZALES, WHICH I BELIEVE HAS MOVED OUT.

BUT YOU CAN SEE GENERALLY THE SIGNS THAT ARE ALONG THE THE MAIN RETAIL STRIP IN TERMS OF THE VARIANCES, THE NO BACKER PLATE.

ALSO THE PANEL SIGNS IS ANOTHER REQUEST.

COUNCIL IS SEEKING TO HAVE CONSISTENCY OF WHITE PANELS AND THE MONUMENT SIGN THE KOHL'S, AGAIN A LEGACY PANEL SIGN HAS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.

THE FIVE BELOW REQUESTED IS TO DO A BLUE BACKER PANEL, AS DEMONSTRATED IN THE EXHIBIT, BOTH FOR THE GATEWAY 1709 AND THEN THE 1709 PANEL SIGN.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME EXISTING COLOR SIGNS.

COLORED PANEL SIGNS ARE THERE PRIOR TO THE ORDINANCE CHANGE.

JUST A COUPLE OTHER PHOTOS FOR COUNCIL, THE SAME BOARD APPROVED FOR THREE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE SPECIFIC SIGN BOARD MEMBERS ON WHAT ASPECT OF THE VARIOUS REQUESTS THAT THEY DESCENDED ON AS OUTLINED ON THE SLIDE.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFFS PRESENTATION.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO, DIRECTOR BAKER, THE DIFFERENT COLORS OF THE PANELING ON THE MONUMENT SIGNS THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE NOW.

BUT WHEN I GUESS WHEN THOSE OTHER TENANTS CAME IN, THIS ORDINANCE WAS DIFFERENT AND YOU CAN PUT WHATEVER COLOR YOU WANTED.

YES, SIR.

THOSE TENANTS THAT ARE THERE CURRENTLY, KOHL'S AND TJ MAX WERE PRIOR MEN'S WEARHOUSE WERE ALL PRIOR TO THE ORDINANCE CHANGE.

I DON'T HAVE THE REST OF COUNCIL FEELS THAT DOESN'T OFFEND ME, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF A TOUGH WITH THE SIGNAGE ON THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENTS IS TOUGH.

RIGHT.

KIND OF COVERED UP IN LANDSCAPING.

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AND I THINK GOING BACK AND THE SIGN BOARD WANTED TO HAVE A HISTORY ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS SOME OF THE BASIS BEHIND REMOVING THE BACKER PLATES.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THE BACKER PLATES NECESSARILY THE COUNCIL; OPPOSED TO IT, BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME THROUGH, SOMETIMES THEY BE NEON COLORS OR BRIGHT COLORS.

AND SO COUNCIL WANTED TO JUST SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN RELATION TO THE BUILDING, ARCHITECTURE, ETC..

AND WHAT I RECALL DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF REMOVING THAT IS AS A PERMITTED SIGN TYPE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.

WE DID GO BACK AND AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THEM IN SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS.

SO WE KIND OF PULLED BACK ON THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENTS SLIGHTLY.

BUT I THINK THE INTENT INITIALLY IS THE COUNCIL COULD ULTIMATELY AND SIGN BOARD LOOK AT IT TO SEE IF IT MET THE WOULD FIT WITH THE ARCHITECTURE IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF BACKER PLATE THAT WAS USED.

SO IN THIS REPRESENTATION, ARE THE BLUE AWNINGS UNDER CONSIDERATION OR IS THAT JUST TO SHOW US, YOU KNOW, THAT IS JUST TO SHOW US THERE'S NOT ANY THERE'S NOT ANY REGULATIONS.

WE DO HAVE A IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

WE DO HAVE A PROHIBITION ON NEON COLORS.

SO WE'LL CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT A A PROHIBITED COLOR TYPE.

I MEAN, I GUESS YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT.

AND SO DID I MISS IT.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT THE FIVE BELOW WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THIS IS DENIED? WELL, IT WOULD IF THEY COULD DO THE WHITE CHANNEL LETTERS WITHOUT THE BACKER PLATE.

RIGHT.

SO BASICALLY THAT WITHOUT THE BLUE ON THE BLACK INK, CHECK ME ON THIS KEN.

I FEEL LIKE IN THE PAST THERE WAS A CASE WE'VE HAD CASES LIKE THIS.

AND IF THIS WAS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 1789, AS YOU'RE HEADING TOWARDS KELLER AND THERE WAS SOME BUILDINGS OVER THERE THAT HAD SOME MEDICAL TYPE BUILDINGS AND I REMEMBER SPEAKERS] YES.

IN THAT CASE CAME IN.

I REMEMBER WE HAD A DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE DISCUSSION, I THINK, WAS SIMILAR.

IT'S THAT THE THE PREVIOUS SIGNAGE HAD BEEN APPROVED AND THEN THE ORDINANCE CHANGED AND THE NEW PERSON WANTED TO GET APPROVAL TO KIND OF MATCH THE REST.

AND I FEEL LIKE THE COUNCIL SAID WE DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE JUST JUST BECAUSE IT WAS THAT WAY.

WE'D RATHER DO IT THE NEW ORDINANCE AND WORK BACKWARDS TO GET IT CORRECTED OVER TIME, WASN'T IT? THAT'S RIGHT.

I MEAN, I THINK GARY FOX SPENT AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME WORKING ON THIS AND WORKING WITH STAFF TO KIND OF CLEAN UP THE SIGN IMAGE IN SOUTHLAKE AND THE BACKER PLATING THE IDEA OF HAVING THAT FLEXIBILITY OF COLOR PALETTES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE KIND OF JUST SET HIM OFF AND PUT US THROUGH THAT BIG EXERCISE.

SO I'M NOT A BIG SIGN NAZI BY ANY STRETCH OF THE MATTER.

BUT I THINK THERE'S THERE WE HAVE THIS ORDINANCE.

WE WENT TO THIS EXTENSIVE EXERCISE FOR A REASON AND THIS WOULD, I THINK, BE TAKING US BACK FIVE YEARS.

AND WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO TAKE TIME TO TIME AS NEW BUSINESSES CAME IN YOU LIVE TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE VERSUS.

RIGHT? YEAH.

SO WE WOULD BASICALLY BE REVERTING BACK TO AN ORDINANCE THAT WE CHANGED FIVE YEARS AGO TO ALLOW THIS.

SO IN MY MIND, THIS IS JUST A VERY QUICK NO.

IT'S REAL SIMPLE.

AND I DON'T DIG IT AT ALL EITHER.

AND I DO LOVE THE WHOLE SIGN THING.

I JUST CAME FROM P&Z AND SIGN BOARD WAS LIKE ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS.

I USED TO CONSTANTLY GO GO AT IT WITH MICHAEL SPRINGER BECAUSE I LOVE PROTECTING BRANDS.

RIGHT.

SO SO WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A BRAND AND YOUR BUILDING A COMPANY, COLORS MATTER AND IT MATTERS, BUT THESE BACKER PLATES, THIS IS I JUST DON'T LIKE IT.

I ACTUALLY GOOGLED FIVE BELOW TODAY AND I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OUTSIDES OF MANY OF THEIR STORES AND THEY DO HAVE A COUPLE THAT ARE NOT WITH BACKER PLATES.

AND THE LETTERS LOOK GREAT.

IT'S I AGREE.

I'M NOT A FAN.

AND I DON'T THINK IT AFFECTS THEIR SAME DAY SALES AT ALL.

AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THIS TO ADHERE TO THAT IS WHEN THEY COME BEFORE US WITH A CHANGE LIKE THIS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY.

THIS IS CLEAN IT UP.

THAT'S RIGHT.

EXACTLY RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO RANDY'S OTHER QUESTION.

ARE THESE AWNINGS PART OF THIS PIECE OR I MEAN, IS HE ARE THEY TRYING TO ADD THESE AWNINGS TO THIS BUILDING? IT'S SHOWN IN THE EXHIBIT.

IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A SIGN WE DO.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE DO HAVE A PROHIBITION ON NEON COLORS.

SO WHEN THEY COME IN AND APPLY FOR THE PERMITS, WE CAN COMPARE THAT TO OUR ORDINANCE, MAKE SURE.

YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS A [INAUDIBLE] COLOR, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO TO DARKER OR DEEPER.

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YES, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SPEAKING TO, CAN THEY PUT THOSE ON IF THEY PICK A DIFFERENT COLOR.

ADMINISTRATIVELY.

YES.

YEAH.

IT'S GOING TO BE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE.

BUT WE DO HAVE AND WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT PROHIBITS THE NEON, THE NEON COLOR.

SO IF THAT IS A IF THAT FALLS INTO THE WE ACTUALLY HAVE PAINT SAMPLES LISTED THAT WE CAN COMPARE THEM TO, IF IT DOES FALL INTO THAT NEON CATEGORY, THEN WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THEM TO BE INSTALLED.

THIS IS A VERY IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY CLOSE CALL, BUT THEY MAY HAVE TO GO TO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER OR DARKER BLUE.

GOOD QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR BAKER? OK, THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? COME ON UP.

ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS SAMANTHA JOHNSON.

I'M FROM 809 GRAND BRIAR FATE TEXAS.

RIGHT.

SO YOU KIND OF HEARD THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

WE'RE NOT A HUGE FAN OF THE BACKER PLATE, SO I GET IT.

I MEAN, BUT THE REASON WHY THEY WANT TO DO THIS IS SO AN EXAMPLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHERE ROCKWELL IS.

THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED THE BACKER.

THEY WERE JUST ALLOWED THE WHITE CHANNEL LETTERS.

THEY'VE BEEN UP SINCE 2016.

AND FROM THE SUN WASHING ON THEM, THEY JUST BLEND IN WITH THEIR TAN BUILDING.

SO YOU SEE THE LETTERS IF YOU'RE UP CLOSE, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE THEM FROM I-30 WHICH IS THE CLOSEST HIGHWAY THAT THEY ARE TO.

SO AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, THEY JUST KIND OF GET WASHED AWAY.

THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT REALLY PRESENTABLE.

DOES THE COMPANY EVER DO THEM IN REVERSE, LIKE DO THE LETTERS IN BLUE? THE ONLY WAY TO ACHIEVE THE BLUE IS THROUGH VINYL AND THEN VINYL DOES NOT LAST.

SO IT'S MORE COSTLY TO DO THE BLUE VINYL.

IS THIS FACING 1709 OR 114.

IT'S FACING 1709 TONIGHT, CORRECT? YEAH, YEAH.

BUT THE GOOD THING IS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBILITY THAN THE NORTH SIDE FACING 114.

SO I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE OK.

MY OPINION AND FROM OUR OWN EXPERIENCE, THE BACKER DOES SAVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE BUILDING.

YOUR CHANNEL LETTERS USUALLY HAVE THREE TO FOUR PENETRATIONS PER LETTER VERSUS A BACKER YOU'RE EIGHT OR NINE.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF GETTING CAUGHT UP IN HISTORICAL DISCUSSION.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FILTERING THESE OUT OF THE CITY.

SO.

OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? OK, SO I THINK THE NEAR UNANIMOUS OBJECTION IS TO THE BACKER PLATE.

WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT THE BLUE ON THE MONUMENT SIGN.

SAME.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE BACKER PLATE WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP OUR SIGNAGE AND WE CAN CHOOSE WHITE BLUE LETTERS.

I AGREE.

I AGREE.

I WAS GOING TO SAY WE REACHED OUT TO KOHL'S AND ASK THEM BECAUSE ON THAT ONE MONUMENT THAT WOULD BE THE LAST.

THE LAST.

YEAH.

AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO.

A GOOD POINT.

THE NEXT PERSON THAT COMES IN, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, LOOK AT KOHL'S.

SO EVEN IN CASES WHERE THERE WASN'T ON P&Z AND SO EVEN IN CASES WHERE THERE'S BRAND UNIFORMITY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ON THAT.

WE'RE PRETTY IT'S PRETTY ETCHED IN STONE.

YEAH, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY POINT TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES ACROSS THE BOARD WITH SIGNS ESPECIALLY AND MS. SIGN BOARD DOWN THERE CAN PROBABLY TELL US MORE.

BUT YEAH, WE YOU KNOW, BRAND UNIFORMITY ONLY GO SO FAR.

CANDIDLY, THIS SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE IT TO US.

I SHOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH P&Z AS A RECOMMENDATION.

WELL, IT BARELY DID.

IT LOOKS LIKE, 4-3.

I DON'T DISAGREE.

AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FIVE BELOW STORES WHEN I WAS RESEARCHING EARLIER TODAY, THEY DID WHITE LETTERS, BUT THEY WERE KIND OF OUTLINED IN BLUE, KIND OF LOOKED COOL.

I WAS LIKE, I LIKE THAT BETTER THAN THE BACKER PLATE.

I'M JUST NOT A FAN OF THESE BACKER PLATES.

AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE COMING TONIGHT TOO.

I DON'T KNOW.

WELL WE CERTAINLY ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE BUSINESS COMING INTO SOUTHLAKE.

I THINK WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE ON THE SIGNS.

SO JUDGING BY WHAT COUNCIL IS SAYING SO.

IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, WE CAN TAKE A MOTION.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL I MOVE WE DENY ITEM 9A OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS SB 21-008 SIGN VARIANCE FOR FIVE BELOW LOCATED AT 2910 E SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORTED DATED MAY 11TH, 2021.

NOTING THAT WE ARE DENYING THE VARIANCE FOR THE BACKER PLATE AND DENYING THE VARIANCE FOR THE MONUMENT PLATE OR AT MONUMENT PANEL.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

THE VOTE, YES, IS A VOTE TO DENY THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

SO MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 9B SV 21-0010 SIGN VARIANCE FOR ST.

[9.B. SV21-0010, Sign Variance for St. Bernard located at 1275 E. Southlake Blvd., Suite 401.]

DIRECTOR BAKER.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THIS IS ALSO A VARIANCE TO SIGN ORDINANCE NUMBER 704 IN THE SHOPS OF SOUTHLAKE.

MASTER SIGN PLAN.

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THIS IS THE OLD PIER ONE SPACE AT THE SHOPS OF SOUTHLAKE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE THE TENANT SPACE CARROLL AVENUE TO THE LEFT ON SLIDE 1709 TO THE TOP, JUST ANOTHER EXHIBIT SHOWING THE LOCATION TENANT SPACE.

IT'S OVER SIX HUNDRED FEET FROM 1709 AND ABOUT ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE FEET FROM CARROLL.

THE VARIANCE IS ON THE WEST FACADE OF THE BUILDING THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING AT DOING OF METAL FEATURE ALONG THE BUILDING, WHICH IS THE INTERPRETATION WAS A BACKER PLATE WITH THE ST. BERNARD SIGNS, WHICH DO MEET THE SAME REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF LETTER SIZE, ET CETERA.

THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS FOR THE METAL STRUCTURE THAT WRAPS AROUND AND ALSO THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THE SIGN BE LOCATED WITHIN THE 75 PERCENT OF THE ARTICULATED FACADE.

SO IN THIS CASE WOULD BE THIS PORTION OF FACADE.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE 75 PERCENT.

THEY'RE ASKING TO BE OUTSIDE THAT MIDDLE 75 PERCENT AREA.

THE LETTERS ARE TWO FEET.

THE STRUCTURE PLATE IS FOUR FEET.

IT'S A METAL WITH A BLACK BRONZE TYPE COATING.

JUST FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE DETAILS, THERE IS A BLADE SIGN ON THE FRONT TO THE NORTH ELEVATION AND AN ADDITIONAL SIGN ON THE THE FRONT ELEVATION THAT DO MEET ALL ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.

AGAIN, THIS IS A WHAT THE APPLICANT CONSIDERS AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE, BUT IT IS A METAL WITH A BRONZE MATTE FINISH.

BUT A SIGN WILL BE PLACED UPON IS PROPOSED TO BE PLACED UPON THIS PARTICULAR FEATURE.

SO THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WITH THE BLADE SIGN.

THESE ARE THE SUMMARY OF THE TWO VARIANCES, THE.

WEST FACADE AND THEN THE LOCATION ON THAT SIGN ON THE WEST FACADE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LEGACY SIGNS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER DO HAVE WHAT WOULD BE DEFINED AS A BACKER PLATE TO DATE AGAIN WHEN THE ORDINANCE CHANGED, THAT REQUIRED THE APPLICANT TO COME IN WITH THE VARIOUS REQUESTS.

BUT YOU CAN SEE A NUMBER OF BUILDINGS DO HAVE THOSE IN THE SHOPS OF SOUTHLAKE SHOPPING CENTER.

SIGNBOARD DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL SEVEN ZERO ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR BAKER.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

I'M JUST ASSUMING IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS BECAUSE THERE'S A BIG TREE THERE.

PROBABLY.

I THINK SO.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO SOME OF THE PICTURES, THE OTHER SIGNS IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER TO SEE WHAT THIS.

SO, OK, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WAIT GO BACK ONE MORE SO FOR HOWARD WANGS AND BONEFISH GRILL, IS THAT WOULD THOSE BE CONSIDERED BACKER PLATES, BONEFISH GRILLS MORE I WOULD CONSIDER MORE ALMOST LIKE AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE BECAUSE IT HAS LOOKS LIKE SOME CAST STONE AROUND IT.

HOWARD WANGS IS THE TOP RIGHT.

THAT IS MORE OF A SIGN STRUCTURE THERE, SO THAT PROBABLY WOULD WE QUALIFY AS A BACKER PLATE.

IS IT JUST CHEAPER TO PRODUCE A SIGN, THAT'S THE WHOLE DEAL, TOO? RIGHT.

IT'S JUST MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO DO IT A BACKER PLATE.

GENERALLY SPEAKING.

I THINK IT DOES.

AS THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT INDICATED, IT DOES PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE FACADE SOME BECAUSE YOU HAVE FEWER PENETRATION INTO THE INTO THE BRICK FACADE.

AND WE HAVE ALLOWED THE KIND OF CLOUTED AROUND WHEN THEY MATCH IT TO TRY TO, WHERE IT'S NOT A RECTANGLE TYPE STRUCTURE THAT TO TRY TO SAVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE FACADE.

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BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE BACKER PLATE.

IS IT MOSTLY FOR THAT, BACKLIGHTING FOR THAT FOR THE LOOK, FOR THE DESIGN ELEMENT? I THINK ALL OF THE ABOVE.

I MEAN AND THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS IT MORE.

BUT SOME OF THE BRANDING, THE STORES, I BELIEVE IT'S ALSO IT'S MORE OF AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE THAN A A TRUE BACKER PLATE.

IT IS A METAL VERSUS A LOT OF THESE BACKER PLATES.

THIS IS A POWDER COATED TYPE METAL, WHICH SOME OF THE BACKER PLATES [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, I THINK WHEN YOU I MEAN I'LL BE INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, BUT I DO THINK THAT WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO MORE OF THESE HIGHER END CONSTRUCTION PRODUCTS LIKE THE METALS AND SO FORTH VERSUS PLASTICS, IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

AND I MEAN, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THESE CASES COMING TO US, IS WE HAVE DISCRETION.

IF WE DIDN'T HAVE DISCRETION AND IT WAS FORBIDDEN UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, WE WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER CASES WITH BACKER PLATES.

SO CLEARLY IT'S AT DISCRETION.

AND IF WE THINK IT'S AN ARTISTIC FEATURE OR A DESIGN FEATURE, I THINK WE CAN INTERPRET THINGS THAT WAY.

YOU KNOW, I'D HAVE A HARD TIME IF I WAS LOOKING AT ONE PLASTIC THAT LOOKED JUST LIKE FIVE BELOW RIGHT NOW AND THEN KIND OF GO, WELL, IT WASN'T OK FOR THEM, BUT IT'S OK FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

FOR ME, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

IT'S A BIT MORE ARTISTIC.

YEAH.

OK, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR BAKER.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE.

SO YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION, IS THIS A BACKER PLATE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.

NICE TO SEE YOU, I'M DAVID PALMER, 3102 MAPLE AVENUE IN DALLAS.

I'M THE DEVELOPER OF THE SHOPS OF SOUTHLAKE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ST.

BERNARD AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NORDSTROM RACK, BOTH OF WHICH INVOLVE BACKER PLATES AND MR. [INAUDIBLE].

AND I HAVE ABOUT 15 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER IN THIS GREAT DALLAS FORT WORTH MARKET.

SO I CAN TALK FOR A LONG TIME ABOUT BACKER PLATES.

JUST GENERALLY FROM OUR STANDPOINT BACKER PLATES ARE AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO PRESERVE THE BUILDING FACE.

VERY MUCH SO WHEN YOU HAVE A NON MASONRY PRODUCT IN THE BUILDING, BUILDING FACE ABOUT PLASTER OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THE BACKER PLATES DOES MINIMIZE HOLES AND RETAILERS DO CHANGEOVER AND TRYING TO MATCH, YOU KNOW, 10 YEAR OLD BRICK OR, YOU KNOW, PLASTER, WHICH HAS BEEN UP THERE.

AND WHEN SIGN COMPANIES COME, WE ASK THAT THEY DRILL HOLES IN THE MORTAR BETWEEN THE BRICKS.

BUT THOSE GUYS GET UP ON LIFTS OR THOSE PEOPLE GET UP ON LIFTS, YOU CAN'T REALLY REGULATE THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE CONSEQUENCE OF YOUR CHANGING YOUR ALTERATION OF YOUR OF YOUR SIGN ORDINANCE.

AND WE WE BOUGHT THIS LAND IN 1997.

SO I'VE BEEN BEFORE PRIOR COUNCILS A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIMES IS YOU GET EXPOSED RACEWAY AND THAT TO ME THAT'S EVEN LESS ATTRACTIVE THAN A BACKER PLATE.

AND SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE IS PRESERVATION AND NOT TO EXPOSE A RACEWAY.

AND BECAUSE ON MANY OCCASIONS WITH CENTERS WHERE THE PARAPET LINE COMES, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T DO THE ELECTRICAL BEHIND THE PARAPET.

AND SO THERE'S THERE'S A FUNCTIONALITY TO THAT.

AND WE ALSO ENCOURAGE JIGSAWING OF BACKER PLATES, WHICH YOU SEE IN THE SHOPS SOUTHLAKE A LOT BECAUSE IT'S A I JUST THINK IT'S A BETTER, MORE CONTEMPORARY LOOK.

BUT AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

BUT LET ME LET ME START WITH SAINT BERNARD.

YOU KNOW, PIER ONE HAD A GOOD RUN HERE, AND THIS IS KIND OF A JUNIOR ANCHOR SPACE.

WHEN THEY VACATED AFTER THEIR BANKRUPTCY, I WOULD HAVE BET WE WOULD HAVE HAD HOME STORES.

YOU KNOW, MY CENTER AND THE CENTER ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER KIND OF COMPETED FOR WEST ELM.

AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING ANYWHERE JUST YET.

I WAS SURPRISED THAT WHEN SAINT BERNARD WAS AT THE TOP OF MY LIST AND WHEN THEY SHOWED UP 1978, THEIR RETAIL ROYALTY IN THIS, THE GOYER FAMILY AND IT'S FASHION AND MOST MOST FASHION AND LIFESTYLE SINCE WAITS TO COME OVER HERE BECAUSE IT'S MORE TRIBAL AND THEY WANT TO BE THEY WANT TO BE WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND THEY DON'T WANT THEIR FUTURE BOSSES LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER AND SAY, WHY DID YOU DO THAT? AND BUT CHARLIE GOYNER'S FATHER CAME OVER AND PROVIDED A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND WE WANTED TO CHANGE THE NATURE OF THE BUILDING AND THE APPROACH FOR THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT STORE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN CONJUNCTION.

[03:40:03]

OH, THERE WE GO.

SO WE'VE COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, I CALL IT ANYWAYS, WE'VE TAKEN THE STOREFRONT AND WE'VE FRAMED IT TO GIVE IT MORE OF A LIFESTYLE QUALITY.

AND I'VE I'VE CUT PLANTER BOXES ARE GOING IN FRONT OF THE TWO WINDOWS ON THE NORTH NORTH ELEVATION AND THE ST.

BERNARD WEST SIDE.

YOU KNOW, I TALKED WITH STAFF.

WE DON'T CONSIDER THAT ABOUT BACKER PLATE.

WE CONSIDER THAT AN ARCHITECT.

THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT WHICH RELATES TO THE STOREFRONT MATERIAL AND THE THE LANDSCAPE BOXES THAT WE'RE CUTTING IN ON CLADDING THOSE IN THE SAME STOREFRONT STOREFRONT MATERIAL.

IT'S A DAMP, DARK ANODIZED.

SO IT'S ALUMINUM.

IT'S IN TERMS OF THAT.

SO IT'S ALL PART OF A LOOK.

AND THEY IT MATCHES UP NICELY WITH THOSE BLACK HORIZONTAL AWNINGS THAT ARE THERE AND JUST GIVES YOU AN IMPRESSION OF AN APPROACHABILITY, MAKES IT MORE URBAN AND TIED THE PLATE WHICH SURROUNDS THE BUILDING WITH THIS FLAG SIGN.

AND IT'S LIKE WE JUST THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE LOOK FOR ST.

BERNARD.

AND THE REASON THAT IT DOESN'T MEET THE 75 PERCENT IS WE'VE GOT A LOT WE'VE GOT A LOT FOUR NEXT DOOR.

WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A BUILDING ON SOMEDAY.

AND SO THIS THIS WESTERN SIGN ISN'T FOR THE NORTH SOUTH DIRECTION AND THE CARROLL DIRECTION.

IT'S FOR IT'S FOR THAT DRIVE THAT RUNS IN FRONT OF THE CENTER.

IT'S THE MAIN DRIVE IN THE CENTER.

AND THAT'S THAT'S THE READ.

AND AND WE WORKED WITH ST.

BERNARD SO THAT THE NORTH ELEVATION SIGN CONFORMS WITH THE ORDINANCE.

BUT THIS IS MORE DESIGN THAN THAN THAN BACKER PLATE LOOK.

AND THAT'S WHY I'D REQUEST RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU ALLOW THE VARIANCE AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR TALK ABOUT BACKER PLATES.

BUT IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS WE LOVE TO TALK ABOUT BACKER PLATES UNTIL MIDNIGHT.

LET'S WORK ON THIS ONE FIRST.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IS THERE ANY QUESTION, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? OK, WELL STICK AROUND.

WE MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS IN A SECOND.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COUNCILMAN DISCUSSION.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? I'LL DRIVE BY THIS EVERY DAY.

I THINK IT'S FINE.

I AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT'S DESCRIPTION OF THIS AND THIS RENDERING LOOKS VERY ATTRACTIVE TO ME ON THAT CORNER.

YEAH, I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH THIS.

THE PLANTERS ARE A NICE TOUCH, MRS. HUFFMAN IS GOING TO REALLY, REALLY LIKE THOSE PLANTERS.

OK, WELL, WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

ALL RIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM 9 B, OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS SV 21-0010.

THE SIGN VARIANCE FOR ST.

BERNARD, LOCATED AT 1275 E SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SUITE 401 SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORTED DATED MAY 11TH, 2021.

WE HAVE A MOTION IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT IS APPROVED SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WITH THAT, WE WILL JUMP INTO ITEM 9C S.V.

[9.C. SV21-0011, Sign Variance for Nordstrom Rack located at 1445 E. Southlake Blvd.]

DIRECTOR BAKER.

MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THIS REQUEST IS FOR A VARIANCE TO ORDINANCE 704 AND THE SHOPS AT SOUTHLAKE MASTER SIGN PLAN TO ALLOW LARGER THAN ALLOWED ATTACHED BUILDING SIGN FOR NORDSTROM RACK AS WELL AS A PERMITTED BACKER PLATE.

WHAT IS DRIVING THIS REQUEST IS THAT THE NORDSTROM'S RACK ACROSS THE COUNTRY GOING THROUGH REBRANDING AND THIS IS THEIR REBRANDED SIGN.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE TENANT SPACE.

AGAIN, IT'S OVER SIX HUNDRED FEET OFF THE SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THE CURRENT SIGN ON THE PHOTO IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND OF THE SLIDE, THE EXISTING SIGN ON THE TOP, THE PROPOSED SIGN ON THE BOTTOM.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIMENSIONS.

THIS IS A COMPARISON OF THE CURRENT SIGN AND THE PROPOSED SIGN, THE CURRENT SIGN WAS GIVEN A VARIANCE FROM THE MASTER SIGN PLAN, INITIALLY THE WORD NORDSTROM'S.

WELL, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE CURRENT SIGN IS 331 SQUARE FEET.

AND THIS NEW SIGN WILL BE REDUCED TO TWO HUNDRED FIFTY SQUARE FEET.

THE LETTERS ON THE WORD NORDSTROM ARE THIRTY FOUR INCHES ON THE EXISTING SIGN.

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THE LETTERS RAC IN THE SMALL CASE ARE FIFTY FOUR INCHES ON THE EXISTING SIGN AND THEN SEVENTY ON THE PROPOSED NEW SIGN.

AND THEN THE K IS NINETY THREE INCHES ON THE EXISTING SIDE AND NINETY SIX ON THE PROPOSED SIGN THERE'S NO BACKER PLATE ON THE EXISTING SIGN AND THEN DIMENSIONS ROUGHLY ELEVEN BY TWENTY TWO ON THE PROPOSED SIDES.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S PERMITTED IN THE MASTER SIGN PLAN.

FORTY TWO INCHES.

FIFTY TWO INCH LOGO WHEN YOU HAVE DOUBLE COPY.

SIXTY SIX INCHES.

SO THE VARIANCES ARE SHOWN IN RED, WHICH WOULD BE THE LETTER SIZES FOR THE R AND A AND C AND THE K AND THEN THE THE REQUEST FOR THE BACKER PLATE.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON.

AND WE WENT TO THESE PHOTOS LAST TIME, SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, 5-2 AND YOU CAN SEE THE BASIS FOR THE DISSENTING VOTES INDICATED ON THE SLIDE.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON, GOT YOUR HAND ON THE BUTTON.

OK, MR PALMER, COME ON UP.

BE HONEST, THIS ONE SEEMS LIKE A BACKER PLATE.

YES, AND COUNCILWOMAN.

THIS IS BRANDING.

THERE IS 352 NORDSTROM RACK STORES AROUND THE COUNTRY.

I HATE I HATED THE ORIGINAL SIGN, HATE IT EVEN TODAY, IT'S OUT OF FRAME WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] AND IT'S GROSSLY I MEAN, I JUST I MEAN BUT I MEAN, THEY HAD THREE HUNDRED STORES AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT I WOULD NOTE THAT YOU CAN STAND ANYWHERE ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND NOT SEE THE SIGN ON TERMS OF THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

RACK IS REBRANDING.

THEY THEY WANT THE THE NAME PACK, THEY WANT TO STACK THE LETTERS, THE K'S GOING FROM 93 TO 96.

I'M NOT A GRAPHIC ARTIST, BUT THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON GRAPHIC ARTISTS AND I THINK THE STOCK OF THE K WANTS TO GO LEVEL WITH THE NEW NORDSTROM AND AND IT AND IT'S THEY WANTED TO POP WITH THE BACKER PLATE.

AND I THINK IT'S A PROPERLY FRAMED SIGN WITHIN WITHIN THE [INAUDIBLE].

AND IT IS A LOT BETTER LOOKING THAN THE INITIAL SIGN.

IT IS YOUR.

IT IS THE WHITE LETTERS, BUT IT'S FRAMED OUT.

AND THERE'S THREE NORDSTROM RACKS HERE AND IN DALLAS FORT WORTH, WE STOLE THE ONE FROM NORTHEAST MALL TO PUT IT HERE IN 2009, OPENED ON SALES TAX WEEKEND RACK IS VERY HAPPY HERE.

NORDSTROM JUST RENEWED FOR A DECADE AND THEY LOVE TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S ABOUT BRANDING.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT'S THIS ABOUT.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT BACKER PLATE.

IT IS.

I JUST WOULD REQUEST A VARIANCE, BECAUSE HERE I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IT'S NOT VISIBLE EXCEPT WITHIN THE CENTER ITSELF.

.

UNDERSTAND.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I DO HAVE ONE.

YES SIR.

LET'S SAY YOU HAVEN'T YOU HADN'T SINCE THE APPREHENSION OF THE COUNCIL ABOUT BACKER PLATES AND WE SEE THE OPTION THAT WAS THERE BEFORE.

IS THERE NOT AN OPTION TO DO THIS WITHOUT A BACKER PLATE, GIVEN THAT THE LAST ONE WAS DONE WITHOUT A BACKER PLATE.

THIS ONE WAS JUST STACKED? WELL, YEAH, THE THE LOGO GOT STACKED FROM THE HORIZONTAL TO TO THAT STACK AND YOU KNOW, TO WHEN THEY WENT TO THE HORIZONTAL STACK TO FRAME IT OUT PICTURE FRAME IT THIS WHAT WE CALL IT, WHAT YOU CALL BACKER PLATE AND I AGREE KIND OF FRAMES THAT IN THAT SENSE.

I MEAN I GUESS MY QUESTION IS BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN, WHAT WE HAD, WHAT WE HAVE NOW, IT CAN WORK WITHOUT A BACKER PLATE.

CORRECT.

BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE ABLE TO READ NORDSTRöM.

YEAH.

AT ALL.

BE TOO SMALL.

WELL, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTALLATION, TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILWOMAN, IS THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE BROWN AGAINST THE BROWN LETTER, AGAINST THE TAN BRICK.

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AND THEY THEY THEY'RE GOING THEY WENT TOWARD THE WHITE LETTER IN THE HORIZONTAL STACK AND THEY IT JUST WANTED IT WANTED TO POP.

AND, YOU KNOW, I SAID I THINK IT'S A I THINK IT'S MORE PROPERLY FRAMED SIZE SIGNED THAN THE ONE THAT'S UP THERE NOW.

I MEAN, I JUST SAT AND DISHED ON BACKER PLATES.

HOWEVER, I AGREE.

I THINK THIS IS A MUCH BETTER OPTION.

I HATED THE OLD SIGN, TOO.

IT'S NOT EVEN CENTERED.

AND THAT C'S ON TOP OF THE.

RIDICULOUS.

SO AS MUCH AS I DON'T LIKE BACKER PLATES, I DON'T THINK WE'D BE ABLE TO READ THIS.

I THINK WE'VE HAD THEM DO INDIVIDUAL LETTERS.

IT WOULDN'T EVEN WORK.

I MEAN, I'D SAY I'M LOOKING AT MULTIPLES OF YOURS RIGHT HERE.

AND I KNOW YOU SAY IT'S A BRAND THING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THE BACKER PLATES THAT THE BRANDS, THE STACK NAME THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BRAND NOW BECAUSE A LOT OF YOUR STORES STILL HAVE IT LINEAR LIKE THAT ON THE LEFT.

I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THE BACKER.

I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT TWO OR THREE STORES RIGHT HERE THAT DON'T HAVE BACKER PLATES ON THEM THAT ARE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIGHTER COLOR STORE WITH BLACK LETTERS.

BUT I THINK THE WHITE LETTERS OR THE BLACK LETTERS EITHER ONE, THE BLACK ONES.

YOU OBVIOUSLY STAND OUT HERE, BUT I LIKE THE SIGN BETTER.

BUT I'M OUT ON THE BACKER PLATE WITH THIS PIECE BECAUSE IT'S JUST HUGE.

TO A POINT.

BUT THIS THIS IS WHERE I THINK KIND OF THE OUR SIGN PD FOR THE SHOPS AT SOUTHLAKE COMES IN.

I MEAN, THE TOP FITNESS WENT IN A YEAR AGO AND THEY HAVE BACKER PLATES ON ALL THEIR SIGNS.

AND I'M SORRY, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION YOUR SHOPS DO NOT HAVE A MASTER SIGN PLAN THAT ALLOWS FOR BACKER PLATES.

NO, WHEN WE WHEN WE GOT THE PD, WE HAVE A MASTER SIGN PD THAT THAT'S PART OF IT AND THAT ALLOWS BACKER PLATES.

AND I THINK DIRECTOR BAKER WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE BACKER PLATES KIND OF GET GRANDFATHERED AT THIS CENTER TO SOME EXTENT ON THAT.

IS THAT ACCURATE DIRECTOR BACKER.

WELL, NOT GRANDFATHERED LEGALLY.

TOP FITNESS GOT ALL BACKER PLATES.

I GOT YOU.

I GOT YOU.

HOLLYWOOD FEED AND SOUL SWEAT HOT YOGA HAVE BACKER PLATES, ALBEIT THE JIGSAW ONES.

YEAH, I GOT YOU.

I GOT YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS.

I THINK HE'S ACCURATE WHEN HE SAYS THAT THE PHOTO, THIS NEW IMAGE SITS INSIDE THE PARAPETS.

IT'S FRAMED MUCH BETTER.

I MEAN, THE K JUST GOT REALLY LARGE, BUT I THINK WE ALREADY HAD A VARIANCE ON THE SIZE OF THE LETTER ALREADY.

SO I'M KIND OF I CAN PALLET THE THE SIZE, THE LITTLE ADDITIONAL SIZE JUST TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL FRAMING OF THE THE THE NEW BRAND.

BUT I'M A NO ON THE BACKER PLATE.

AND YOU KNOW, TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBIN'S PERSPECTIVE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPTIONS HERE THAT I'M SEEING THAT DON'T HAVE BACKER PLATES.

LOTS, LOTS OF USE, LOTS, LOTS OF THOSE NEW BRANDING THAT DON'T HAVE THEM.

I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF OF A NEW CONCEPT.

AND I'M OK WITH THAT LETTER K BEING INSANELY LARGE.

AND THIS THE OVERALL SIGN ITSELF BEING REQUIRING A VARIANCE BECAUSE THOSE LETTERS ARE GINORMOUS, BUT IT'S A HECK OF A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT.

YEAH, I AGREE.

BUT I ALSO THINK TO THE POINT WHERE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM 1709, YOU DON'T NEED TO.

RIGHT.

SO YEAH, I LIKE THAT.

YOU JUST I MEAN, I CAN'T YOU JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT TO GET TO IT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE PARKING AREA.

SO YOU DON'T NEED THIS LARGE HOLE.

SO WHAT I WAS SAYING IS YOU DON'T NEED TO SEE IT FROM 1709, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT THAT.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO YOU REALLY JUST NEED TO SEE IT FROM PARKING AREA, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, GOT A LOT OF TREES IN IT AND A LOT OF CARS AND SO FORTH.

SO I'M NOT A FAN OF THE BIG BACKER PLATE.

I DO LIKE HOW IT'S FRAMED OUT.

I THINK IT LOOKS FAR BETTER THAN THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE.

BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT AN EXAMPLE OF OF ANOTHER VERSION OF IT THAT COULD WORK BETTER WITHOUT A BACKER PLATE.

SO NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT, BUT I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT THERE IS FAR BETTER AND I'M NOT A DESIGN PERSON, BUT THERE'S FAR BETTER LOOKING OPTIONS THAT WOULD I THINK WOULD BETTER FIT THAT ILLUSTRIOUS CENTER THAN THE BACKER PLATE.

I REALLY YOU KNOW, WE JUST DISCUSSED THE FIVE BELOW.

I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE OF IT WOULD BE TOUGH FOR THAT TO WORK WITHOUT IT, BUT NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT OPTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTING WITH THE NEW LOGO THAT LOOK FAR BETTER WITH THE EXCELLENT POINTS.

BUT I WOULD POINT OUT ALMOST EVERY TIME IT'S THE SHOPS OF SOUTHLAKE HAS BEEN REPLACED.

SO, YOU KNOW.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT? NO, SIR.

OK, THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER THE DISCUSSION.

I MEAN, SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE FLESHED THE ISSUE OUT PRETTY THOROUGHLY.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM ONE QUESTION.

HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT SETTING THE OTHER SIGNS AREN'T SETTING A PRECEDENT.

BUT IF HE'S ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT KIND OF PUTTING MY ZBA HAT ON

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IS THAT HOW WAS THAT LOOKED UPON.

IN YOUR STAFF REPORT YOU DO HAVE SOME VARIANCE CRITERIA.

SO YOU WOULD COMPARE IT BACK TO THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE COMPATIBILITY IS ONE OF THE REASONS.

AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE INITIAL CONVERSATION, I THINK YOU LOOK AT IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS IN TERMS OF THESE BACKER PLATES.

YEAH.

OK, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SO LET ME JUST.

IT SOUNDS LIKE BACKER PLATES ARE NOT IN FAVOR HERE FOR THIS APPLICATION.

WOULD ANYONE ENTERTAIN THE STACKING SIGN AS PRESENTED WITHOUT THE BACKER PLATE? ABSOLUTELY.

YES.

AND I THINK EITHER IN BLACK OR WHITE, I'D BE FINE WITH.

OK.

OR WHATEVER THAT ACTUAL COLOR IS.

IT'S PROBABLY A VERSION OF IT.

IS THE LETTER SIZING AND THE STACKING.

IS THAT SUBJECT TO VARIANCE AS WELL? YES.

YES, IT IS.

AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY MADE A GOOD POINT THAT YOU MAY WANT TO GIVE THEM FLEXIBILITY ON THE COLOR, NEUTRAL, ANY NEUTRAL COLOR TO BE ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GO TO DIFFERENT.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

DIFFERENT TYPE OF COLOR SO WE CAN IMPROVE THE VARIANCE ON THE DESIGN AND THE SIZE, LET THEM CHOOSE ANY NEUTRAL COLOR AND THEN JUST SPECIFICALLY DENY THE BACKER PLATE.

RIGHT.

OR IF THEY WANT TO HEAR IF THEY WANT TO DO A REVERSE CHANNEL, THEY COULD DO THAT.

ANYTHING THE SIGN TYPE.

THE LETTER TYPE WOULD HAVE TO BE THE ORDINANCE.

BUT GIVEN THE FLEXIBILITY, THAT FLEXIBILITY.

OK.

CHAD, YOU GOT THAT, I DON'T KNOW, AND WE'LL GIVE IT A SHOT.

HE'S HONEST.

YEAH, OK, WELL, IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION THAN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, SIR.

FAIR ENOUGH.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 9C OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS S.V.

21-0011.

THE SIGN VARIANCE FOR NORDSTROM RACK LOCATED AT 1445 E SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 11TH, 2021, NOTING THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN ATTACHED BUILDING SIGN WITH LARGER THAN PERMITTED INDIVIDUAL INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTERS NOTING THAT THE BACKER PLATE IS NOT APPROVED OR DENIED AS REQUESTED, AND ALSO NOTING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS FLEXIBILITY ON COLOR AND WORKING WITH STAFF ON AN APPROVED COLOR, AND THEN ALSO NOTING THAT THEY COULD CONSIDER REVERSE CHANNEL IT.

YES, YES.

YOU COULD SAY THEY CAN PROVIDE ANY TYPE OF SIGN THAT MEETS THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF SIGN TYPE.

SIGN TYPE THAT CURRENTLY MEETS THE ORDINANCE WITH THE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE VARIANCE ON THIS SIGN SIZE.

OK.

THAT CHECK THE BOXES.

YES.

SO TO BE CLEARER THAN THE MOTION IS BASICALLY SAYING WE'RE APPROVING EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE BACKER PLATE.

AND ALLOWING AND ALLOWING STAFF TO WORK WITH APPLICANT ON A NEW CONCEPT THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE.

RIGHT.

SO THEY CAN DO CHANNEL LETTERS THAT ARE NEUTRAL COLOR.

THEY CAN DO A REVERSE CHANNEL IF THEY WANT TO GO TO A BLUE OR A NON NEUTRAL COLOR.

OK, GOT IT.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OK, THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO, THANK YOU SO MUCH, APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 10A DISCUSSION ON THE POSSIBLE PERMANENT ADOPTION

[10.A. Discussion on the possible permanent adoption of some temporary zoning and use regulations and activities associated with the COVID-19 emergency and establishing a date for termination of the existing temporary regulations currently in place.]

SPECIFICALLY THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS TO RATIFY THE EXISTING WE'RE HAVING THIS WEIRD POLTERGEIST MOMENT.

KEN BAKER, IS THAT YOU.

DIDN'T MOVE.

WOW.

I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST SEVEN YEARS.

AND I WAS LIKE, I HAVE NEVER SEEN KEN BAKER BE SO RUDE IN MY LIFE.

I SAW YOUR VIDEO AND I'M LIKE, I'M GOING TO GO FOR IT.

THE VIDEO.

I LIKE IT.

HE'S LIKE, IT'S 11:30.

I'M MOVING.

WE'RE OVER HERE.

SO, OK, MOVING ON, MOVING ON.

I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS IF YOU PLEASE.

WITH THE COVID-19 EMERGENCY AND ESTABLISHING A DATE FOR TERMINATION OF THE EXISTING TEMPORARY REGULATIONS CURRENTLY IN PLACE, I WOULD LIKE TO NOW RECOGNIZE DIRECTOR BAKER.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS OUT OF THE PRESENTATION MODE, THE IN MARCH OF 2020 CITY SOUTHLAKE BEGAN ENACTING TEMPORARY REGULATIONS TO ASSIST BUSINESSES THAT WERE BEING SEVERELY IMPACTED BY THE COVID-19 EMERGENCY AND TO ASSIST BUSINESSES GET THROUGH THIS EMERGENCY PERIOD.

THE COUNCIL PASSED RESOLUTIONS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ECONOMIC TASK RECOVERY TASK FORCE, PASSED A NUMBER OF RESOLUTIONS TO PROVIDE RELIEF TO BUSINESSES.

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AND SO WE'RE NOW AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO EITHER TERMINATE THOSE REGULATIONS OR POSSIBLY EXTEND SOME OF THOSE REGULATIONS A LITTLE BIT LONGER OR EVEN POSSIBLY CODIFY SOME OF THOSE REGULATIONS INTO OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE.

SO IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU HAVE A TEMPORARY REGULATIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THIS IN TERMS OF ARE OUR REGULATIONS, WE HAVE CURRENTLY WAIVED THE PERMITS FOR TENT FEES.

AND THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT WAS THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO USE TENTS FOR WEDDINGS OR OUTDOOR PARTIES IN THE SUMMERS.

WE'VE GOT CHURCHES THAT ARE COMING UP WITH VACATION BIBLE SCHOOLS OR MOTHER DAYS OUT OR OTHER EVENTS, GRADUATIONS, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE TO ALLOW A RESIDENT TO USE A TENT.

SO WE'VE TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED THE TENT PERMIT FEE.

THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FIRE INSPECTION FOR ANYTHING OVER 400 SQUARE FEET TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL FIRE AND BUILDING CODES.