May 20, 2021 Planning and Zoning Commission

THESE ARE THE REMAINING DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WHICH ARE NOT CHANGING.

THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR BUILDING SEVEN, IT'S CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED.

THERE'S A PHOTOGRAPH OF IT, UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.

THE OTHER ELEMENT OF THIS PROPOSAL IS TO ADD SOME OPTIONAL MATERIAL PALETTES FOR THE ARCHITECTURE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

CURRENTLY, THE THE PERMITTED BUILDING TYPES ARE ALL A CLAY COLOR STYLE ROOF WITH THIS COLOR BRICK WITH A WHAT'S CALLED A MORTAR SPEAR SMEAR APPLICATION ON THE EXTERIOR.

THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING TO ADD OPTION FOR A WHITE BRICK WITH BLACK TILE ROOF, NO MORTAR SMEAR ON THESE TYPE ELEVATIONS.

AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE A LIGHT GRAY BRICK WITH DARK GRAY TILE ROOF.

ONCE AGAIN, NO MORTAR SMEAR APPLICATION ON THAT FAÃ♪ADE.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? DENNIS ON THE THE CHOICE THAT THEY WOULD MAKE, THE CHOICE OF THE COLOR COMBINATION FOR THE ROOF AND THE BRICK BASED ON AS THE BUILDINGS ARE, AS IT'S BUILT OUT? FOR THE YEAH, THE REMAINING BUILDINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED, THE BUILT THAT THE OWNER WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF PICKING THESE OTHER FACADES.

WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP IF WE THINK ANYTHING ELSE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OK.

THANK YOU DENNIS.

GO AHEAD AND ASK THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE TO PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR RECORD AS ALWAYS, PLEASE.

CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MARTIN SCHELLING, 260 BYRON DRIVE SOUTHLAKE TEXAS 76092.

I THINK STAFF DONE A GOOD JOB OF PRESENTING OUR REQUEST.

AND RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH A BUNCH OF SLIDES, JUST BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

NO, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S PERFECT.

WE ALMOST PREFER THAT SOMETIMES.

SO MAYBE JUST IN YOUR OWN WORDS AND I KNOW IT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT MAYBE EXPLAIN THE DESIRE FOR THE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.

SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.

CORRECT.

SO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE WHAT I'D SAY, MORE TRADITIONAL WITH THE MORTAR SMEAR.

IT LOOKS LIKE A CHICAGO BRICK IS WHAT IT IS.

THE OTHER TWO ELEVATIONS ARE WHAT I'D SAY A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEMPORARY AND A BIT TRENDY RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU LOOK AROUND TOWN, YOU'D LOOK AT A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES, THE WHITE WITH BLACK AND THE GRAY WITH GRAY IS VERY POPULAR.

AND SOME OF THE CUSTOMERS WANT THE IMAGE OF THEIR COMPANY PRESENTED DIFFERENT BASED ON THE BUILDING FAÃ♪ADE.

SO IT'S DRIVEN BY THAT.

ONE OTHER THING THAT WE FOUND IN THE [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT, ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE THE SAME AND YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND YOU'LL SEE PEOPLE DRIVE AROUND AND AROUND AND ADDRESSES ARE ON THE BUILDING.

THE SUITE NUMBERS ARE ON THERE, BUT THEY JUST HAVE DIFFICULTY FINDING THEM.

SO THIS WILL GIVE YOU SOME SEPARATE IDENTIFICATION.

YOU CAN SAY I'M IN THE WHITE BUILDING WITH THE BLACK ROOF.

AND I'M IN THE WEST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'S A IT'S A CHOICE.

YOU KNOW, 14, 15 MONTHS AGO, OUR WORLD WAS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.

AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ADAPT TO THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE IN.

SO LITTLE LITTLE DISTINCTIVENESS.

BUT YET, I GUESS YOU FEEL LIKE IT STILL REMAINS FAIRLY COHESIVE THROUGHOUT THE THE DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF THE STYLES THAT ARE COMPLEMENTARY AND NOT CLASHING, I GUESS.

ALSO THE THE HORIZONTAL VERTICAL ARTICULATION OF THE BUILDINGS WE'RE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE

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ANY OF THAT.

IT'S REALLY A BRICK AND A TILE.

YOU KNOW, THE [INAUDIBLE] GOT SORT OF A ROSE COLORED BRICK TO IT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO OFFICES THAT ARE SOUTH OF US, THEY'RE STUCCO.

OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST ARE A MILSAP STONE, THE TILE ROOF, AND WE'RE ALL CONNECTED TOGETHER.

SO THEN THE BUILDING THAT'S WEST OF THEM IS A CREAM COLORED BUILDING WITH STONE ACCENT.

SO, YEAH, I THINK WHEN IT'S ALL DONE, IT'LL BE PROBABLY AN IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER ITEM, I GUESS JUST THE USE REQUEST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF CONCEDING THIS SITE KIND OF HAS, YOU KNOW, A HISTORY RELATED TO JUST, YOU KNOW, THE TYPES OF USES THAT THAT ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, WERE DESIRABLE OR LESS DESIRABLE OF MAYBE JUST KIND OF TALK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IN TERMS OF THE THE BUILDING LOCATION, THE USE ITSELF, YOU KNOW, THE THE THOUGHTS ON HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IT MAY OR MAY NOT IMPACT OR I GUESS JUST A LITTLE OF THE LOGIC ON YOUR REQUEST.

SO THIS BUILDING DOESN'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY.

IT ABUTS THE TWO EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THEN THERE'S A LARGE OPEN SPACE THAT'S GOT TO PRESERVE OF TREES IN IT.

SO WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CAME FORWARD WITH THIS ZONING, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT EXPANDING THE USES FROM O1 AND THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF THE C1 USES, MAYBE EVEN A COUPLE OF C2S THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE, DESIRABLE, ACCEPTABLE.

AND AT THAT TIME, WE JUST SAID, JUST GIVE US THE O1.

IF WE GET A USE THAT WE THINK MERIT'S COMING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.

WE'LL COME BACK WITH SP AND WE'LL ASK SPECIFICALLY AND YOU'LL KNOW THE LOCATION AND THE TYPE OF USE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PARKS.

I GUESS IN EXCESS, YOU'LL SAY WE WE PARKED IT SO WE COULD HAVE ABOUT 60 OR 70 PERCENT MEDICAL, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GOING TO HIT THAT NUMBER.

SO WE'LL BE PARKED.

AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GENERATION, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT FOUR POINTS OF ACCESS.

YOU GOT FULL MOVEMENT OUT OF ONE OF THEM TO GO BACK ON WHITE CHAPEL.

YOU GOT TWO COMING OUT ON 1709.

WE'RE CONNECTING TO OUR NEIGHBOR.

SO TRAFFIC GENERATION FROM THIS USER IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN A DENTIST OR A MEDICAL OFFICE.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE'S LOTS OF POINTS OF ACCESS AND WAYS TO GET AROUND AND OUT OF THE IN AND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS FROM A PROPERTY OWNER ADJACENT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT ABOUT WEEKEND TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THIS BUILDING SEVEN IS ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO ADDITIONAL OFFICE USE, IS THAT CORRECT? IT COULD BE AN OFFICE USE.

[INAUDIBLE] WHAT'S DIRECTLY SOUTH OF BUILDING SEVEN? YEAH.

OH, YEAH.

THOSE ARE MOSTLY MEDICAL.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A GENERAL OFFICE USE IN THERE, BUT IT'S IT'S TWO BUILDINGS AND THE TENANT MIX IS MEDICAL.

AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE HOURS WOULD BE IF IT'S A SALON USE? WOULD IT BE OPEN ON THE WEEKEND MOST LIKELY? YES.

AND THE WAY YOU WOULD LAY THIS OUT, IS IT GOING TO BE YOU'RE GOING TO CUSTOM BUILD IT OUT TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT A CLIENT WANTS, ARE YOU GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CUT IT UP TO START WITH FOR LIKE THE SUITE? WELL, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY DEVELOPING A FLOOR PLAN FOR THE EYEBROW THREADING.

SO IT'S NOT COMPLETE YET.

BUT WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL DELIVER THE SHELL BUILDING AND THEN WE WILL HELP THE TENANT FINISH IT OUT.

AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS ANYBODY? WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW? I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW.

IF WE NEED YOU BACK UP HERE.

WE'LL GIVE YOU A SHOUT.

ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THAT PUBLIC HEARING TO ANYBODY WHO MIGHT WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

AND MAYBE I'LL JUST READ A COUPLE OF THESE INTO THE RECORD, BECAUSE WE DID RECEIVE A COUPLE OF RESPONSES.

ONE WAS FROM A KURT DRAKE AT 112 LONDONDERRY TERRACE WHO WAS IN OPPOSITION, AND ANOTHER ONE IS A SEAN ALLEN FROM 108 LONDONDERRY TERRACE WHO'S IN OPPOSITION.

SO I GUESS IF I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO COME FORWARD ON THIS ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, KIND OF MAYBE RIFFING A LITTLE BIT OFF OF OF THE OPPOSITION FORMS WE RECEIVED.

THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WAS ASKING SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

AND THIS ONE OBVIOUSLY IS A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY TO IT IN TERMS IN TERMS OF THE USE DIALOG ON IT.

I THINK THE DRIVERS THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, TO ME KIND OF THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC GENERATION.

AND THIS USE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT MEANINGFUL RELATIVE TO THAT.

I THINK WE ALL KIND OF KNOW HOW THESE USES WORK.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK I THINK I CAN, YOU KNOW, GET THERE ON THIS ONE.

BUT I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT THAT WE JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL ON THIS SITE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF OF THESE APPROVALS.

BUT I THINK I'M IN SUPPORT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE ANY DIALOG OR? YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'M GOOD WITH IT AS WELL, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT BUILDING TWO HAS THE SAME USE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND THAT IT'S LIMITED TO BUILDING SEVEN.

I THINK IF WE WERE TO GO BEYOND THAT, IT MIGHT BE PROBLEMATIC OR IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

OBVIOUSLY, LIKE YOU SAID, EIGHT, NINE.

WITH IT AS WELL.

ANYBODY ELSE? I'D JUST ADD THAT THE TREE BUFFER ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF BUILDING SEVEN, I THINK EVEN KIND OF FURTHER TELLS THAT STORY, THAT FROM A PLACEMENT STANDPOINT WITHIN THIS PARK, IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COMMENT OR? I'M GOOD WITH IT FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU GUYS OUTLINED.

COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] I'M ALSO GOOD WITH IT FOR THE SAME REASONS FOR THE LOCATION.

I GUESS JUST TO CLARIFY TOO, WHAT WE'D BE APPROVING WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE SALON USE.

IT WOULDN'T BE FOR A RESTAURANT OR ANY OTHER USE.

THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.

GOOD CONFORMATION PARTICULARLY TO GET ON THE RECORD.

OK, I GUESS THERE'S NO OTHER DIALOG.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TOWARDS A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA, ZA21-0033 SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 19TH, 2021.

FURTHER SUBJECT TO THE SITE PLAN REVIEW, SUMMARY NUMBER THREE, DATED MAY 19TH, 2021, AND NOTING THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED VARIANCES AS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT.

OK WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

GO AHEAD AND VOTE, PLEASE.

PASSES FIVE ZERO AND CONGRATULATIONS.

GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT LEVEL.

I THINK THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING JUST NOTED FOR THE RECORD, IN CASE ANYBODY WATCHING AT HOME AND STAFF CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS IS JUNE 1ST, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OK, JUNE 1ST.

OK, ALL RIGHT.

NOW WE'LL HEAR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT

[7. Consider: Resolution No. 21-017, (ZA21-0034), Specific Use Permit for Outdoor Sales and Services on property described as Lot 2R, Kimball Park, an addition to the City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 2102 E. State Hwy. 114, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #4. PUBLIC HEARING]

REQUEST FOR OUTDOOR SALES AND SERVICES AT KIMBALL PARK.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THIS THIS REQUEST FOR OUTDOOR SALES AND SERVICE, AS YOU SAID, FOR FURY ATHLETICS.

IT IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT 114 OF KIMBALL PARK ADDRESS IS AT 2102 EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114.

OR, YES, EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114 EXCUSE ME.

AND LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THIS PROPERTY IS MIXED USE.

AND THE ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY IS SP2 GENERAL LINE OF SITE PLAN DISTRICT.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS SHOWN WITH BLUE BOUNDARY.

THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SITE.

AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR DISTRICT 114 BUILDING.

THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW AN AIRSTREAM TRAILER TO DISPLAY PRODUCTS FOR ONE OF THE TENANTS THAT WILL BE OCCUPYING THE MAIN OFFICE BUILDING.

THE THE ZONING FOR DISTRICT 114, KIMBALL PARK ALLOWS THEM TO REQUEST A OUTDOOR SALES AND OR SERVICE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THAT DISTRICT.

IT WOULD BE LOCATED IN WHAT'S CALLED THE STATE OF TEXAS PARK AREA OF THE DISTRICT 114 SITE.

THIS IS A RENDERED PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE IT WOULD BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY.

AND SOME EXHIBITS, SOME DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING AND WHAT HOURS THEY WOULD TYPICALLY OPERATE.

THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WOULD BE TIED TO THE TENANTS TERM LEASE WITHIN THE

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PRIMARY OFFICE BUILDING AND AS CURRENTLY IT IS 10 YEAR TERM WITH SUCCESSIVE FIVE YEAR EXTENSIONS BEING PERMITTED.

AND SO THEREFORE, THE TERM LIMITS, SAYS THE APPLICANT, HAS PROPOSED THAT WOULD SPECIFICALLY BE TIED TO THE TENANT'S LEASE WITHIN THE MAIN MAIN BUILDING.

THESE ARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SITE AS IT'S COMING ALONG IN ITS CONSTRUCTION AND APPROXIMATELY WHERE THAT TRAILER WOULD BE PLACED.

THIS IS THE RESPONSES RECEIVED, THOSE IN GREEN ALL SHOWING IN FAVOR.

AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANYBODY ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE FOR STAFF? OK, I THINK WE'RE.

I [INAUDIBLE] HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

SORRY, HAVE WE EVER APPROVED ANYTHING LIKE THIS THAT YOU CAN THINK OF? OUTDOOR SALE SERVICE? YES.

WELL, I WOULD NOT SAY SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CHARACTERISTICS CHARACTERISTIC FORM WHERE IT'S BASICALLY A RETAIL SALES FACILITY.

THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR, OF COURSE, THE SNOW CONES AND THE BARBECUE FACILITY THAT WAS AT DOVE AND KIMBALL.

WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER VARIOUS FOOD OR PRODUCE RELATED OUTDOOR SALES THAT HAVE BEEN PERMITTED.

DENNIS, REAL QUICK, AND YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS AND I MISSED IT, THIS WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN OR ZONING CORRECT? THE ABILITY TO REQUEST A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

YES, IT WAS PART OF THE ZONING.

AND THAT'S THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD DISTINCTION TO DRAW THAT THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST, WHICH CAN BE VERY, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY BY DESIGN, VERY NARROW VERSUS SOMETHING LIKE ZONING, WHICH WE JUST DID, WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE BROAD.

SO GOOD DISTINCTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

GO AHEAD AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME UP HERE.

THINK WE'RE GOOD DENNIS.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

AND I'M CURIOUS IF PART OF THE APPLICATION REQUEST HERE IS THE ABILITY TO LIVE IN THE TRAILER OR NOT.

SO I ACTUALLY ALREADY LIVE AT KIMBALL PARK NOW ABOUT 70 HOURS A WEEK.

BUT NO, I WILL NOT BE LIVING IN THAT.

JEFFREY [INAUDIBLE], 2120 CHEYENNE PARK LANE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, 76092.

AND IN THE SPIRIT OF BREVITY, I'LL JUST SORT OF DEFER TO ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

I THINK DENNIS DID A GREAT JOB OF PRESENTING OUR APPLICATION.

AND AS I THINK YOU PROBABLY HEARD, WE DID ASK FOR THIS APPROVAL IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW SOME OF THE SPECIFIC SPECIFICS, WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T SORT OF BRING THAT FORWARD AT THAT TIME.

AND NOW THAT DISTRICT 114 IS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM BEING COMPLETED.

WE ARE HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL, FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR IF YOUR ATHLETICS.

QUESTIONS? QUICK QUESTION.

SO TO BE CLEAR, JEFF, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A 10 YEAR TERM ON THE SUP OR A FIVE YEAR WITH A FIVE YEAR RENEWAL TIED TO THE LEASE? SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP IN STAFF WAS WHAT WAS WHAT WERE THE TERMS OF OUR LEASE? IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOURTH FLOOR OF THIS BUILDING, FURY ATHLETICS IS GOING TO BE HEADQUARTERED ON THE FOURTH FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, SORT OF TOGETHER WITH [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS.

AND THAT LEASE IS A FIVE YEAR LEASE WITH A FIVE YEAR OPTION.

SO WE WERE TYING IT TO TO THAT.

SO IF WE TERMINATED OUR LEASE AT FIVE YEARS, WELL THEN THE SUP WOULD SORT OF BE FIVE YEARS.

IF WE EXERCISE OUR OPTION THE EXTRA FIVE YEARS, THEN THAT WOULD CONTINUE.

AND THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK HERE UNTIL, I GUESS, YEAR 10.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH.

SO I'M KIND OF INTERESTED IN THE SALES CONCEPT.

I MEAN, FROM THE PICTURES, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT IT WHERE THE WHOLE SLIDE JUST SORT OF OPENS UP AND IT'S A BIT OF A KIOSK TYPE THING.

SEVERAL OF THEM ARE LIKE THAT.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED.

IF YOU GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES, I THINK I CAN PROBABLY GO BACK A COUPLE

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SLIDES.

SO THE PICTURE THAT YOU SEE UP THERE, THOSE THREE PICTURES IN THE UPPER RIGHT, THAT IS ACTUALLY IF YOU ZOOM IN, YOU CAN SEE THE SOLD SIGN.

WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY PURCHASED THE 28 FOOT AIRSTREAM.

IT'S ACTUALLY SITTING IN FORT WORTH RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE INTERIOR OF THE SPACE, BUT PROBABLY NOT AS RADICALLY AS THE WHAT STRAIGHT DOWN DID WHERE THEY CUT OPEN THE ENTIRE SIDE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN OPTION.

WE COULD HAVE BOUGHT A USED SHELL AND WE COULD HAVE GUTTED THE ENTIRE THING.

WE OPTED TO GO WITH A BRAND NEW TRAILER AS OF 2021.

SO IT WILL CERTAINLY NOT BE UNSIGHTLY IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

IN FACT, I'VE ONLY BEEN IN AT ONE TIME BECAUSE IT'S STILL SITTING IN FORT WORTH.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF RESERVATION ABOUT BECAUSE YOU CAN GET ALL SORTS OF TRAVEL TRAILERS, RIGHT.

THIS IS THIS IS THE FERRARI OF TRAVEL TRAILERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE SORT OF TOYED WITH THIS CONCEPT ABOUT TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE COMING FORWARD WITH THE ZONING REQUEST.

AND WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD PUT THAT IN TO OUR ZONING REQUEST.

AT THE TIME, LIKE I SAID, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THE SPECIFICS.

BUT IN THAT TIME, SINCE WE'VE JUST FELT THAT GOING WITH A NEW A NEW AIRSTREAM WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR US, RIGHT THING FOR SOUTHLAKE.

AND WE'VE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

THIS IS SORT OF ALL THE RAGE.

IF YOU GOT TO LEGACY WEST, THEY HAVE A RESTAURANT THERE AT LEGACY WEST HAYWIRE AND THEY HAVE AN AIRSTREAM THAT THEY'VE CONVERTED IN A SIMILAR MANNER.

AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A REALLY, REALLY GREAT ADDITION TO THE DEVELOPMENT, REALLY SORT OF EDGY, NEW, UNIQUE.

SO IT'LL BE AIR-CONDITIONED I'M ASSUMING.

YEAH, WE WE UPGRADED WITH TWO AIR CONDITIONERS, OK, BECAUSE I WAS THINKING THIS WOULD BE BAD DUTY FOR WHOEVER GOT TO MAN THIS WITH NO AIR CONDITIONING.

AND WE HAVE IT, WE HAVE A DEDICATED 50 AMP CIRCUIT THAT WE INCLUDED IN OUR PERMIT SET WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT SO THAT THE 50 AMPS IS RIGHT RIGHT THERE.

AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE ONES AND YOU DISCUSSED IN THE NARRATIVE ABOUT MOVING IT IN AND OUT AND HOW YOU WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO YOU'RE ANTICIPATING THAT YOU'LL BE MOVING DIFFERENT ONES IN AND OUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

THAT WON'T BE THERE.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE.

OK, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE.

SO I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT.

WHEN YOU SAID YOU HAD FOUR, I WAS GOING TO LIKE IN A TRAILER PARK.

IF I SAID WE HAVE FOUR, I MISSPOKE.

WE DO NOT HAVE FOUR.

WE HAVE ONE.

AND YES, THERE'S A GATE OUT BACK WHICH WAS APPROVED AS PART OF OUR SITE PLAN THAT WE CAN BRING IT IN AND OUT.

AND WE'VE WE'VE ALSO PURCHASED A TRUCK THAT YOU MIGHT START SEEING ROLLING AROUND SOUTHLAKE TO PULL THE AIRSTREAM.

I'VE NEVER OWNED A TRUCK IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

FORTY NINE YEARS IT TOOK ME AND IT'S IT'S PRETTY COOL.

I DON'T THINK I'LL EVER DRIVE ANYTHING ELSE.

WELL, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THESE AIRSTREAMS HAVE TO BE POLISHED PRETTY REGULAR TO KEEP THEM IN THAT BEAUTIFUL LOOK.

SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PART OF YOUR PROGRAM HERE, RIGHT? I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW OFTEN WE'LL POLISH IT.

I CAN'T.

WELL, THEY GET I'VE NEVER I'VE NEVER I'VE NEVER OWNED ONE.

I HAVE HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT THIS THING TO LOOK GOOD, THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN SORT OF PERIODICALLY AND.

IT'S AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR.

I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT.

THEY DIDN'T TELL ME THAT IN THE SALES MEETING, THE SALES PRESENTATION.

BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU, I WILL MAKE SURE THIS WILL NOT GET INTO A STATE OF DISREPAIR.

WHAT'S WHAT'S THE LIGHTING GOING TO BE LIKE AT NIGHT FOR THAT FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT? VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THIS AREA IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE MOST HEAVILY FORTIFIED, GUARDED, LIT, SURVEILLED AREA IN ALL OF SOUTHLAKE.

WE HAVE APPROACHING 50 CAMERAS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE EXTRA LIGHTING THAT'S BEEN ADDED.

IN FACT, RIGHT BEHIND THE AIRSTREAM, WE HAVE SOME SORT OF STRING LIGHTS IN THE AREA RIGHT IMMEDIATELY SORT OF TO THE WEST OF THE AIRSTREAM.

AND WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT IF SOMEBODY DECIDED TO JUMP THE FENCE, WE HAVE PROXIMITY SENSORS THAT WILL PICK THAT UP AND TURN ON EVERY SINGLE LIGHT IN THE PARK.

I'M VERY NERVOUS ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE A FIVE FOOT PERIMETER FENCE THAT GOES ALONG THE ROAD HERE.

YOU CAN SORT OF SEE IT A LITTLE GATE HERE.

AND THEN WE HAVE A FIVE FOOT FENCE THAT COMES ALL THE WAY AROUND TO A WALL THAT'S RIGHT HERE.

AND THEN WE HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT WALL.

IT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY OVER AND THEN BACK, I'M SUFFICIENTLY CONCERNED ABOUT JUST PEOPLE COMING AND MESSING AROUND WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING IN TODAY.

MR. CLAFFEY IS PUTTING IN A OUR FOUNTAIN.

OUR FOUNTAIN IS IN THE STATE IS IN THE ADJACENT THE STATE OF TEXAS PARK OR PLAZA, AND IT'S IN THE SHAPE OF THE GULF OF MEXICO.

AND THIS FOUNTAIN WILL WORK.

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THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.

JEFF, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE SPIRIT OF THIS PART OF ME SAYS THEIR HEADQUARTERS, YOU SAID, WILL BE ON THE TOP FLOOR.

SO IS THIS KIND OF A CORPORATE CAMPUS TYPE OF RETAIL THING OR IS THIS LIKE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL WITH A KIND OF MORE CREATIVE EDGE TO IT? IT'S MORE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, BUT SORT OF HEADQUARTERS FOR THE COMPANY WILL BE BASED UP ON THE FOURTH FLOOR.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION.

THIS IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT, BUT I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT HAIL.

CAN NOTHING FIT IN THAT PARKING GARAGE? YES, IT CAN.

IN FACT, WE HAVE A ACTUAL DEDICATED GARAGE FOR IT IF WE NEEDED TO.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SEE THE SITE PLAN, SEE HERE.

OH, I'M FLYING THROUGH THIS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK I WENT TOO FAST.

IT'S NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS.

AND I HAVE A LITTLE SYMPATHY FOR YOU.

THE STAFF HAS.

I WAS TRYING TO GO TO THE SITE PLAN TO SORT OF SHOW YOU THE WHOLE.

THERE YOU GO.

SO THE GATES ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT HERE AND THIS SIDEWALK THAT'S YOU CAN SEE THAT SORT OF COMES DOWN THROUGH IT TO OUR SERVICE ENTRANCE.

THE AREA THAT'S HERE IN GREEN IS SCHEDULED TO BE GRASS.

WHAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO IS PUT SOME GRASS PAVERS IN WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, WHICH ARE NOT AN IMPERVIOUS SORT OF BUST ON OUR ON OUR SITE PLAN BECAUSE IT IS GRASS, BUT UNDERNEATH HAS A VERY SORT OF STURDY BASE.

AND IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN BRING IT IN THROUGH HERE AND BRING IT INTO THE GARAGE AND UNDERCOVER.

AND THEN SORT OF OVER HERE IS A PRIVATE GARAGE, 10 FOOT BY 10 FOOT OVERHEAD DOOR THAT WE CAN WHEEL THAT IN IF WE WANTED TO FULLY SECURE THE AIRSTREAM.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THAT ADDRESSED ANY OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY, BUT I GUESS WE HAVE ANY OTHERS WILL CALL YOU BACK UP.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

HELPFUL DIALOG.

I HAVE MY AGENDA HERE.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON WHAT YOU JUST SAW AND HEARD? SEEING NO ONE.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OOPS.

SORRY.

WE'LL HEAR YOU.

AND HERE I'LL GO AND ANNOUNCE HOW PUBLIC COMMENT WORKS.

BUT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND COME OUT, IF YOU LIKE, BASICALLY THE WAY IT WORKS, BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL HAVE SOME NEXT CASE.

YOU'LL COME UP HERE TO THE MICROPHONE.

YOU'LL GET UP TO THREE MINUTES, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO HOW THEY DO IT AT CITY COUNCIL.

YOU'RE GOING TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN ON THE THE COMMENT LIGHTS RIGHT THERE BY YOUR RIGHT HAND.

THEY'LL BE GREEN FOR TWO MINUTES, I THINK, FOR ONE MINUTE.

AND THEN RED ALLOWS YOU TO EXPLAIN ALL THIS EARLIER ANYWAY.

SO I FIGURED I'D DO THAT NOW.

BUT BUT GO AHEAD, SIR.

SCOTT GUILLER, 405 SHADY LANE, SOUTHLAKE.

I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN IT.

I DIDN'T COME HERE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

BUT I'M SHOCKED THAT YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW OFFICE BUILDING AND YOU'RE GOING TO PARK A TRAILER OUT THERE FOR FIVE TO TEN YEARS? IT JUST SEEMS TOTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER TO ME.

I JUST I DON'T THINK THERE'S I KNOW AN AIRSTREAMS, A NICE TRAILER, BUT IT'S A TRAILER WITHIN A BEAUTIFUL OFFICE PARK.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A BIG DOWNGRADE TO CALL THAT A SALES TRAILER.

WHY NOT BUILD A BUILDING THERE? YOU WOULDN'T PUT THIS IN A COUNTRY CLUB, YOU KNOW, FOR A PERMANENT REASON.

YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT PUT IT THERE UNTIL YOU GET YOUR CLUBHOUSE BUILT, BUT YOU WOULDN'T PUT A TRAILER IN AN OFFICE PARK.

IT JUST JUST I'M SHOCKED.

IT JUST SEEMS TOTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER.

THANKS.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.

IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM AND SEEING NO ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF I GUESS, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHTS ON IT, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE INITIAL COMMENTS AND RESPONSE THAT WE JUST HEARD IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I GUESS, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE REASONS I KIND OF LIKE IT.

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DISTINCTIVE.

AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS CAN MAYBE BE A LITTLE BIT TOO PLAIN.

SO, I MEAN, I'M WILLING TO STEP OUT THERE ON THIS ONE, PRIMARILY, GIVEN THAT I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS, YOU KNOW, AN OWNER AND A NUMBER OF THE PARCELS IMMEDIATELY AROUND IT.

SO IF IT BECOMES DETRIMENTAL, I THINK HE'S AS ALIGNED AS ANYBODY TO TO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN.

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AND ALSO KNOWING THAT THE REQUEST IS TIED TO SPECIFIC TENANT IN THE BUILDING AS WELL.

AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE APPLICANT OWNING THE BUILDING, I MEAN, IF IT WAS ANYTHING THAT WAS DETRIMENTAL TO HIS LEASING, I THINK IT WOULD YOU KNOW, HE DOESN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN EITHER.

SO I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

BUT I KNOW THERE COULD ALWAYS BE VARYING THOUGHTS ON IT.

SO I KNOW EVERYBODY ELSE.

YEAH, NO, I AGREE.

I MEAN, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE EVALUATED AND COUNCIL EVALUATED BACK IN THE CONCEPT PLAN STAGE IN THE ZONING STAGE.

QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, DENNIS.

HAVE WE EVER DONE A TEN YEAR SUP IN ANY LOCATION? MY BELIEF IS THAT THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF EXTENSIONS BEING PERMITTED, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHICH ONE.

WOULD SOME OF THOSE BE THE USES LIKE BEHIND QUICKTRIP, YOU KNOW.

YEAH, THE TENANT USE.

IT'S LIKE THE KARATE TYPE PLACE.

A MAJORITY OF THOSE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS THAT HAVE TERMS ON THEM ARE TIED TO THE COMMERCIAL SCHOOLS AND SO ON.

ON THE RETAIL SALES.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME, I THINK IN THE PAST THAT, YOU KNOW, TERMS ON THEM ANYWHERE FROM ONE YEAR TO, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS.

THE SNOW CONE STAND, I BELIEVE, WAS MOST RECENTLY APPROVED IN PERPETUITY.

THE BARBECUE FACILITY THAT WAS THERE.

I CANNOT RECALL WHAT THE TERM OF THAT WAS.

HOWEVER, THEY'RE NO LONGER LOCATED THERE AT THIS POINT, WOULD HAVE LOST THEIR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AT THAT LOCATION.

SO THEY WOULD NEED TO RETURN AGAIN TO RENEW THAT.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, UNDER THIS SUP, IF FOR SOME STRANGE REASON.

JEFF DROVE THIS COMPANY INTO THE GROUND AND LOST THE LEASE BEFORE OR FIVE YEARS, THE TIME THAT THE LEASE EXPIRES OR TERMINATED ALSO TERMINATED THIS SUP? THAT IS CORRECT.

SHOULD THE TENANT LEAVE PRIOR TO THE END OF THAT TERM? THAT WOULD TERMINATE THEIR ABILITY.

THAT USE.

GOT YOU.

AND ONE OTHER CRITERIA IN THERE.

AND, UM, AND JUST SO THE APPLICANT KNOWS AS WELL, ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, THERE'S A SIX MONTH PERIOD FOR WHICH THEY HAVE TO INITIATE THE USE.

AND LIKEWISE, SHOULD THE USE BE REMOVED FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS OR MORE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RETURN TO GET A NEW SUP TO CONTINUE THE USE.

ANY THE OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DELIBERATIONS? JUST MORE ANECDOTAL THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

I THINK WHILE IT SEEMS HISTORICALLY PROBABLY AN UNUSUAL USE, I THINK IT'S JUST IN TODAY'S WORLD OF THE OFFICE ENVIRONMENT, I THINK IT'S CREATIVE.

IT'S GOT A COOL FACTOR TO IT.

AND I THINK IT'LL BE I THINK WE NEED SORT OF A DIFFERENTIATOR, ESPECIALLY ON THE 114 CORRIDOR.

COOL.

ANYTHING ELSE, OR WE GOOD TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA.

ZA 21-0034 , SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 14TH, 2021, FURTHER SUBJECT TO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT STAFF REVIEW NUMBER TWO, DATED MAY 14TH, 2021, AND ALSO SUBJECT TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-017.

AND WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND.

SECOND.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE, PLEASE, AND PASSES 5-0.

GOOD LUCK.

THE NEXT STAGE ON JUNE 1ST.

CONGRATULATIONS.

OK, WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH I

[8. Consider: ZA21 -0039, Site Plan for Mustang Business Park on property described as Tract 1B3, Harrison Decker Survey, Abstract No. 438, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 1800 S.H. 26, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "1-1" Light Industrial District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

THINK IS THE ONE THAT A NUMBER OF YOU ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO HEAR.

THAT IS A CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN FOR MUSTANG BUSINESS PARK.

AND I THINK WHILE TECHNICALLY THIS IS A NEW APPLICATION BEING SUBMITTED AS IT IS A SITE PLAN REQUEST, THIS IS KIND OF THE THIRD TIME I THINK THIS BODY HAS HEARD A DERIVATIVE OF IT IN TERMS OF THE FIRST TWO TIMES I BELIEVE WAS A ZONING CASE REQUEST AND SITE PLAN.

BUT BUT MORE ZONING CASE RELATED.

SO THIS TIME IT'S SPECIFICALLY A SITE PLAN REQUEST AND STAFF WILL GO AHEAD AND PRESENT, I THINK KIND OF THE WHOLE CASE.

YOU KNOW, HOWEVER, I GUESS I'D SAY LET'S TRY TO FOCUS IN ON MAYBE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE'VE SEEN IT.

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AND THEN ALSO SPECIFICALLY WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO ASK US TO LOOK AT WHICH UNDER A SITE PLAN IS A LITTLE BIT MORE NARROW RELATIVE TO VARIANCES THAN A ZONING CASE.

SO I THINK STAFF WILL KIND OF REMIND US OF OUR GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST, WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON.

SO, DENNIS, WITH THAT, I GUESS WON'T YOU PLEASE GO AHEAD AND KICK OFF STAFF'S REPORT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM AS WELL.

YEAH, APOLOGIES.

I FORGOT TO GIVE YOU THAT CHANCE.

VICE CHAIRMAN WILL BE BACK AFTER THIS CASE.

AND I'M GOING TO LOOK TO ONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO CRAFT A MOTION AT THAT POINT.

SO GO AHEAD, DENNIS.

AND APPROVAL OF A 340,180 SQUARE FOOT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX ON 26 ACRES THAT'S LOCATED AT 1800 STATE HIGHWAY 26 IS ITS CURRENT ADDRESS.

THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THIS PROPERTY IS INDUSTRIAL WITH FLOOD PLAIN ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.

THE CURRENT ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY IS I1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SITE AND A PHOTOGRAPH LOOKING IN A NORTHERLY DIRECTION FROM MUSTANG COURT.

SOUTHWESTERN BOULEVARD IS TO THE LEFT AND CROSSES MUSTANG COURT.

THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING NORTH FROM STATE HIGHWAY 26.

AND THESE ARE BOTH THE PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED SITE PLAN THAT CAME IN WITH THE ZONING REQUEST ON THE LEFT AND THE REVISED PLAN AND SITE PLAN BEING CONSIDERED UNDER THE NEW CASE SUBMITTED UNDER ZA 21-0039.

YOU MAY RECALL THE ZONING CHANGE INCLUDED A HEIGHT DEVIATION UNDER THEIR PROPOSED SB ONE DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT ZONING.

THE REVISED PLAN, SUBMITTED AS A SITE PLAN, HAS ELIMINATED THAT DEVIATION AS COMPLYING WITH THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT REGULATIONS.

YOU MAY ALSO RECALL ON THE ORIGINAL PLAN, THERE WAS A VARIANCE FOR THE STACKING DEPTH COMING IN OFF OF MUSTANG COURT SOUTHWEST BOULEVARD.

THE PLAN HAS BEEN REVISED TO FULLY MEET THE STACKING REQUIREMENTS COMING IN OFF OF THAT [INAUDIBLE].

THIS IS A VIEW SPECIFICALLY AT THE SITE PLAN.

EMERGENCY ACCESS IS STILL PROPOSED AND TO THE NORTH CONNECTING ROADWAY, THIS WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED FOR DAILY TRAFFIC USE WOULD ONLY BE OPEN IN CASE OF A EMERGENCY AND WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE BY OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES.

THIS IS A COMPARISON, THE SITE DATA SUMMARY, THE FLOOR AREA OF THE BUILDING IS IDENTICAL PRIMARY CHANGES, PERCENTAGE OF ANTICIPATED OFFICE SPACE WITHIN THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE WAREHOUSE.

THE OFFICE ANTICIPATED OFFICE SPACE HAS GONE UP APPROXIMATELY ONE PERCENT AND WAREHOUSE CORRESPONDINGLY REDUCED BY THAT ONE PERCENT.

FOR THAT REASON, SLIGHTLY MORE PARKING IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THAT HIGHER RATIO OF PARKING FOR THE OFFICE.

THESE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED ON THE PREVIOUS CASE THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION.

AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS BROUGHT FORWARD WITH THE SITE PLAN ALSO FOR BUILDING ONE, WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN BUILDING HAVE BEEN SWITCHED ON THE SITE.

THE ARCHITECTURE VERY SIMILAR, VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS, WITH SOME VERY MINOR CHANGES.

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BUILDING TWO PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION UNDER THE ZONING AND SITE PLAN ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND BUILDING TWO WITH THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

AND THIS BUILDING THREE PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED.

AND THEIR PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

THESE ARE SOME RENDERED PERSPECTIVES COMING IN OFF THE ENTRANCE, AT MUSTANG AND SOUTHWESTERN.

AND THIS IS AN EXHIBIT SHOWING THE PROPOSED SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING ALONG THE NORTH BOUNDARY, THIS WOULD BE A EIGHT FOOT SOLID, OPAQUE WOOD FENCE.

THE UPPER RENDERING SHOWS WHAT THE ANTICIPATED MATERIAL WOULD LOOK LIKE AT PLANTING.

AND THE LOWER IS A 10 YEAR ANTICIPATED GROWTH OF THOSE PLANTS.

AND THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING SOUTH FROM WOODSY COURT, THIS IS WHERE THE PROPOSED EMERGENCY ACCESS WOULD BE PLACED.

THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING SOUTH FROM TIMBERLINE COURT.

A VARIANCE IS REQUESTED WITH REGARD TO TREE PRESERVATION.

THIS IS THE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN.

THE CONSERVATION ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT FOR THIS SITE, BASED ON THE EXISTING TREE COVERAGE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 60 PERCENT OF THAT EXISTING TREE COVERAGE TO BE PRESERVED.

THEY ARE PROPOSING JUST UNDER 28 PERCENT PRESERVATION.

THE MAJORITY OF THE PRESERVED TREES ARE ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY IN THAT FLOODPLAIN AREA.

AND ONCE AGAIN, APPROXIMATELY 22 PERCENT OF THE SITES COVERED BY MATURE TREES.

IT IS A BROAD MIX OF POST OAK, CEDAR, ELMS AND OSAGE ORANGE ARE ALSO EASTERN RED CEDARS AND MESQUITE MAJORITY OF THE PASTURE AREAS.

MESQUITE COVERAGE.

THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES 60 PERCENT OF THAT BE PRESERVED AND THERE ONCE AGAIN PROPOSED JUST UNDER 28 PERCENT.

AND I WILL ADD THAT AS PART OF THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHICH I'LL GET INTO IN ANOTHER COUPLE OF SLIDES, THEY ARE PLANTING 83 CANOPY TREES OVER AND ABOVE WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THEIR MINIMUM INTERIOR LANDSCAPE AND BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE ADDITIONAL ACCENT TREES OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THEIR MINIMUM INTERIOR LANDSCAPE AND BUFFER YARDS ARE REQUIRED.

ON THIS SCREEN AS THE CRITERIA CONSIDERED AND LOOKING AT A VARIANCE TO THE TREE PRESERVATION.

AND I WILL ALLOW YOU TO FOCUS ON THAT.

AND I CAN REFER BACK TO THIS SLIDE AT ANY POINT DURING YOUR DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM.

THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN AND INCLUDES BOTH THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BUFFER YARDS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR LANDSCAPE ONCE AGAIN.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, THEY'RE PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL 83 CANOPY TREES AND EXCUSE ME, 333 ACCENT TREES.

ON THE LEFT IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN ORIGINALLY PRESENTED WITH THE FIRST APPLICATION MADE AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT AS THE SITE PLANNED FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

THIS IS THE OPPOSITION RECEIVED UP TO THE PREPARATION OF THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, THOSE IN RED HAD FILED FORMAL OPPOSITION.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR REFER BACK TO ANY SLIDES YOU'D LIKE TO GET CLOSER.

DENNIS, I GUESS JUST A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS, MORE KIND OF QUASI REMINDERS FROM MY SIDE.

UM, REAL QUICK, I GUESS, ON THE GATE, THE EMERGENCY GATE.

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JUST PLEASE YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST CALL IT PLEASE CONFIRM AGAIN, THAT IS ONLY EMERGENCY USE ONLY, YOU KNOW, PER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

JUST MAYBE EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN REAL QUICK.

UM, YES.

THE GATE WOULD CONSIST OF A LOCK BOX OR OTHER OPTICAL, UM, TYPE OPERATION, WHATEVER THEY DESIRE TO PUT IN THAT MEETS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS.

AND IT WOULD ONLY BE ACCESSIBLE TO EMERGENCY SERVICE VEHICLES.

AND IT MAY BE KIND OF STAYING IN THAT AREA JUST REMIND ME AGAIN, I GUESS, ON IT OR SORRY, WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.

THE SETBACKS WE HAVE IN PLACE RELATIVE TO THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY, THE SETBACKS, THE BERM, THE LANDSCAPING, I GUESS BASICALLY SAME THING AS SETBACKS, THE REMOVAL OF THE PARKING STRIP.

ALL OF THAT EXCEEDS ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT, CORRECT? YES.

SO THEY ARE MEETING THE HUNDRED FOOT REQUIREMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

THEY DID REMOVE PARKING THAT WAS IN ONE OF THE EARLY PLANS ALONG THIS NORTHERN DRIVEWAY.

AND THEY ARE MEETING THE MINIMUM SCREENING REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE AT LEAST EIGHT FOOT OPAQUE SOLID FENCE.

AND I WOULD FENCE IT DOES MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.

OK, AND THEN MAYBE QUICKLY ON THE TRAFFIC TOPIC, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE GET ALL THE YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK PUBLIC FEEDBACK CARDS AHEAD OF TIME OR A NUMBER OF THEM.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE COMMENTS I READ THROUGH.

JUST IS THERE ANY UPDATED COMMENTARY STAFF CAN PROVIDE US ON JUST THE TRAFFIC FLOW CITY'S RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO, I GUESS, GOVERN THAT INTERSECTION OR JUST THOUGHTS ON HOW THAT'S BEING APPROACHED AND HOW IT'S CURRENTLY BEING EVALUATED? I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A THIRD PARTY EVALUATION.

YOU KNOW, OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT REVIEWED THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY, WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT THEY HAD ADDRESSED AND PROVIDED IN THAT STUDY.

AND THE RECOMMENDATION THEY MADE WAS THAT THIS INTERSECTION HAVE A TWO WAY STOP THAT WOULD ALLOW FREE INGRESS NORTHBOUND TO AVOID ANY CONFLICT WITH THE RAIL LINE AND WHAT THAT BEING A CITY STREET.

AND, OF COURSE, THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO EVALUATE TRAFFIC PATTERNS OR ISSUES AND MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT MIGHT BE WARRANTED SHOULD ISSUES ARISE IN THE FUTURE.

OK, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT TO THE EMERGENCY ACCESS DRIVE, AGAIN, THAT'S ONLY FOR FIRE PURPOSES.

AGAIN, IF AND WHEN IT'S DONE, I THINK WE'RE JUST PRESERVING THE RIGHT TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT CITY OWNED LAND THERE, I GUESS ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH, IS IT CORRECT? AND THE CITY DOES HAVE A FACILITY THAT'S BEING PLANNED TO THE WEST OF IT AND HAS BEEN LIKEWISE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT IN TERMS OF PROVIDING EMERGENCY ACCESS

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FOR THAT FACILITY.

SHOULD THEY NEED IT AND THEY'VE BEEN COOPERATIVE WITH THE CITY ON WHY THAT MIGHT BE PLACED.

AND THEN MAYBE LASTLY, DO YOU MIND MAYBE GOING BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT YOU REFERENCED ON VARIANCE APPROVAL CRITERIA, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, STAFF, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF TALK THAT ONE THROUGH IN TERMS OF, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS SPECIFIC APPLICATION, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO THIS EVENING RELATIVE TO A SITE PLAN APPROVAL THAT CONTAINS, I GUESS, ONE VARIANCE WITHIN IT AND JUST HOW WE SHOULD BE VIEWING THAT.

CERTAINLY, AND I'M HAPPY TO READ THROUGH THESE.

MAYBE NOT VERBATIM, BUT I GUESS SOME OF THE BIG PICTURE GENERALLY IN CONSIDERING THE VARIANCE IT'S HERE WITHIN YOUR ABILITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THIS THE CONFIGURATION OF PROPERTY WHERE THE TREES ARE LOCATED, THEIR ABILITY TO DEVELOP IT AND THE UNDER THE RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE UNDER THEIR CURRENT ZONING AND GIVEN PLACEMENT OF THOSE TREES, OTHER FACTORS ON THE PROPERTY, DOES THAT CREATE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP THAT MAKES IT UNREASONABLE FOR THEM ONCE AGAIN TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IN A FASHION IN KEEPING WITH WHAT THEIR ZONING IS.

DOES IT CREATE ANY UNDUE COST IN PRESERVING THOSE TREES? ONCE AGAIN, IS IT PROHIBITIVE OF THEIR ABILITY TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY ONCE AGAIN UNDER THE RIGHTS SAY THEY HAVE UNDER THAT ZONING? BECAUSE, AGAIN, I GUESS JUST THE APPLICATION FROM US TONIGHT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN, AND IT DOES HAVE ZONING.

YES, OK.

OK, THAT DOES.

THAT'S MY QUESTION.

SO I GUESS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I ONLY HAD ONE RELATED TO THE EMERGENCY EXIT, OBVIOUSLY, AS PROPOSED ON THE NORTH SIDE.

AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HOW THE CITY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY OF THE WEST AND THERE BEING EASEMENT.

IS THERE A CHANCE THAT IF AND WHEN THE CITY DEVELOPS THAT PROPERTY, THAT THAT EMERGENCY EXIT OR INGRESS AND EGRESS COULD BE THE ONLY ONE AND THE ONE NORTH WOULDN'T BE NEEDED? OR HOW SHOULD WE LOOK AT THAT? THAT IS CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY.

OK, I HAD A CLARIFICATION.

I THINK REALLY, DENNIS, IS ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ON THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SECOND POINT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS, RIGHT? THAT CORRECT? NOT NECESSARILY, BUT IT IS.

PROBABLE? DESIRABLE.

AND YOU MEAN EMERGENCY INGRESS, NOT JUST GENERAL EMERGENCY.

THEY WOULD BE YEAH FROM AN EMERGENCY FIRE STANDPOINT, ANY KIND OF REASONABLY SIZED INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ON THIS PROPERTY IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SECOND POINT FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.

IT IS HIGHLY DESIRABLE IN A CIRCUMSTANCE LIKE THIS.

AND IT WAS THROUGH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IN THE EARLY PROCESSES OF THIS APPLICATION, GIVEN THAT BOTH OF THESE STREETS PHYSICALLY STUB INTO THE BOUNDARY OF THIS PROPERTY, THAT STAFF ASKED FOR THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS AS PART OF OUR REVIEW OF THIS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WE CAN ALWAYS ASK THEM SOME MORE LATER IF NEEDED.

SO.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DENNIS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK THE APPLICANT ON THIS APPLICATION TO COME UP.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND WE'LL SEE WHAT IF YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION OR QUESTIONS.

GOOD EVENING, JASON.

BENDER WITH BROOKHILL PROPERTIES.

2121 NORTH PEARL STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75201.

I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.

I THINK STAFF'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN.

SO A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO BE REPEAT SLIDES, BUT JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORY AND WHERE WE'VE COME FROM, I GUESS, WHERE WE STARTED SOME OPPOSITION ON THE BUILDING HEIGHTS, WITH THE THIRTY SIX OR THIRTY TWO FOOT CLEAR BUILDING HEIGHTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.

SO OBVIOUSLY TO GET UNDER THAT THIRTY FIVE FOOT OVERALL BUILDING HEIGHT, WE'VE ELIMINATED THAT AS OUR CLEAR HEIGHT AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO BETWEEN 28 AND 30 FOOT CLEAR.

UM, SO AGAIN THAT IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT DIFFERENT TENANTS, WHICH IN THEORY

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SHOULD REDUCE ANY TRAFFIC TO THE SITE AS WELL FROM OUR ORIGINALLY PROPOSED THIRTY TWO FOOT CLEAR TYPE OF DEMAND TENANT.

AS YOU SAW, THE STACKING IS NO LONGER WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A VARIANCE OR THAT STACKING, WHICH AGAIN SHOULD CERTAINLY HELP THE TRAFFIC FLOW AT THE INTERSECTION, WHICH WAS A BROUGHT UP CONCERN IN THE PAST.

AND AGAIN, AS NOTED IN A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, THE BERM, THE FENCE, THE DELETION OF THE ROAD PARKING ON THE NORTH STILL MAINTAINS THE CURRENT SITE PLAN.

THE DOCKS, NONE OF THE DOCKS ARE FACING NORTH TO THE RESIDENTS.

SO ALL TRAFFIC AND NOISE FUMES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST, THAT'S NOT ON THE NORTH END.

AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE OR WOULD BE LEED CERTIFIED.

AND I'VE HEARD THAT ONE REAL QUICK.

I THINK YOU MEAN THE WEST END, WEST END OF THE SITE.

NO, NORTH.

THE NORTH END.

NORTH END.

NORTH END IS WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND THEN JUST AS A REMINDER, THE LEED CERTIFICATION, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT OUR TO GET OUR LEED POINTS IS LIGHT POLLUTION ON THE SITE.

SO WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT CREDIT.

SO WE'RE UNDER A STRICT CRITERIA TO HIT THAT POINT, WHICH IS MINIMAL LIGHT POLLUTION BEYOND THE SITE BOUNDARY LINE, WHICH WAS BROUGHT UP BY SOME OF THE RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH.

SO AND JUST TO WRAP UP, I MEAN, THE SITE CURRENTLY HAS A LOT OF UNHEALTHY TREES ON THE SITE.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS OBVIOUSLY REPLACE NORTH OF FOUR HUNDRED TREES THAT ARE LARGER CALIBER, HEALTHY, OBVIOUSLY MORE PLEASING TO THE EYE THAN WHAT THE TREES ARE CURRENTLY TODAY.

SO WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OK, I GUESS I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

NO, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU NOW.

I MEAN, HONESTLY, STAFF'S REPORT WAS PRETTY ROBUST AND WE'VE SEEN THIS THREE TIMES.

I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE TRIED TO REFINE IT EACH TIME.

I MEAN, I GUESS WE'LL SEE WHAT THE FEEDBACK IS ON THE REFINEMENTS, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN REFINING IT, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT AFTER WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING, IF WE NEED YOU TO COME BACK UP, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP, SO.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WHAT I NOTED EARLIER MADE SENSE IN TERMS OF THE PROTOCOL FOLLOWED HERE IN PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF JUST, YOU KNOW, I'LL TRY TO I'LL CALL OUT THE CARDS FIRST, THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK, BUT NOTED HOW THEY FELT ABOUT IT.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, YOU STILL WANT TO SPEAK CAN AND THEN I'LL TRY TO CALL OUT THE CARDS THAT DO WANT TO SPEAK.

AND IF YOU DIDN'T FILL OUT ANY CARD, YOU STILL WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK, YOU CAN JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD SO WE CAN GET THAT, PLEASE.

TRYING TO WATCH THE THREE MINUTE LIGHTS JUST IN CONSIDERATION OF EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK I'LL GO AHEAD AND KICK OFF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THINK THESE WERE THE ONES THAT I WAS GRABBING FIRST.

I'VE GOT A FEW OF THEM UP HERE, SO HOPEFULLY BEAR WITH ME.

FIRST ONE IS VIRGINIA ALEXANDER, I BELIEVE, WHO IS AT 1229.

WOODSY COURT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WANTS HER OPPOSITION RECORDED.

THE NEXT ONE IS [INAUDIBLE].

THEY'RE AT 1233 TIMBERLINE COURT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WANTS HER OPPOSITION RECORDED.

THE NEXT ONE IS MARLA [INAUDIBLE], I BELIEVE.

THEY'RE AT 1214 AND 1216 WOODSY COURT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WANTS HER OPPOSITION NOTED.

THE NEXT SEVERAL I HAVE HERE IS MONICA ORTIZ, 104 BOB-O-LINK COURT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT PLEASE RECORD HER OPPOSITION.

JÃ¶RN BENNETT AT 724 LONGFORD DRIVE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, WANTS HIS OPPOSITION RECORDED.

AND THEN WE HAVE HILLARY [INAUDIBLE], I BELIEVE APOLOGIES SCRIBBLED ON THAT, 1205 CHAMPIONS WAY DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WANTS HER OPPOSITION RECORDED.

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WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ONE HERE FROM GUYER PROPERTIES, I BELIEVE, AT 405 SHADY LANE, WHO OWNS THREE PROPERTIES NEARBY AND IS UNDECIDED ABOUT THIS APPLICATION.

SO NOW, OK.

AND IN FACT HERE, WHY DON'T WE? I WAS JUST ABOUT TO CALL THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS, SO WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND COME UP AND LEAD US OFF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AND THEN I'VE GOT SOME CARDS TO GO AFTER YOU.

AND SINCE YOU, THIS'LL BE YOUR SECOND TIME THIS EVENING, THIS WILL BE OLD HAT FOR YOU AND YOU CAN SHOW US HOW IT'S DONE.

WELL, I HAVEN'T BEEN IN ON THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND I OWN THREE PROPERTIES THERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE IN PARTICULAR, 1236 TIMBERLINE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE BUILDING.

I CAN'T SEE THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE CAN SEE THE DETAILS.

SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO FOLLOW, AND THE MAILOUT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW THE DETAILS EITHER.

SO FINE.

I KNOW I'M OLD, OLD EYES, BUT THEY'RE NOT THAT BAD.

SO I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ON THE NORTH EXPOSURE PHASE IN TIMBERLINE AND WOODSY.

OF COURSE, YOU MENTIONED EIGHT FOOT WOODEN FENCE.

IS THAT RIGHT? AND THE WAY PUBLIC HEARING WORKS IS JUST EXPRESS YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'RE GOING TO NOTE THEM ALL.

AND AT THE VERY END, WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH.

THAT'S NOT KIND OF AN ACTIVE QUESTION SESSION JUST TO KEEP THINGS GOING.

YEAH, BUT I'LL BE WRITING THEM DOWN AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'RE.

AN EIGHT FOOT WOODEN FENCE, I'M GUESSING THE TREES.

SAW A BRIEF PICTURE, BUT HE RAN THROUGH A NUMBER OF TYPES OF TREES IN THAT PICTURE.

IT SHOWED IT LOOKED LIKE SOME ELEVATION AT THE FENCE LINE SLOPED DOWN TOWARDS THE PARKING.

THIS IS ALL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

I COULDN'T TELL IF THERE WAS AN ELEVATION CHANGE THEIR AT THE FENCE LINE OR NOT.

THERE'S A BUILDING START LOWER AND THEN GO UP.

OF COURSE, LIGHTING, I DON'T KNOW.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THE LIGHTING, THE EXTENT OF THE LIGHTING AND THEN THE PARKING ALONG THAT NORTH EXPOSURE.

IS THAT EMPLOYEE PARKING OR IS THAT TRAILER PARKING? I COULDN'T TELL.

IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE AN EMPLOYEE, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

AND THEN THE DRIVEWAY, HOW WIDE IS THAT DRIVEWAY? WHAT IS THE SET BACK OF THE BUILDING FROM THE FENCE? AND THEN I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING HAVE BEEN REDUCED TO TWENTY EIGHT FOOT OR SOMETHING.

SO THAT'S A QUESTION.

AND THEN WHAT IS THE EXTERIOR TYPE OF BUILDING? IS IT STUCCO, METAL OR WHATEVER? SO, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.

OK, THANK YOU SIR.

NOTED ALL THOSE DOWN AND WE'LL MAKE SURE BOTH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THAT AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO NOW I WILL MOVE INTO ANOTHER SET OF COMMENT CARDS.

I HAVE I HAVE A MEGAN BRANDON, I BELIEVE AT 1214 WOODSY COURT WISHES TO SHARE HER VIEWS AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

SO, DO I HAVE? COME ON UP, MA'AM.

HI, SO I LIVE AT 1214 WOODSY COURT, WE OWN BOTH PROPERTIES AT 1214 AND 1216.

WE'VE BEEN AT 1214 FOR OVER THREE DECADES.

SO THIS IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

MY MAIN POINTS ARE THAT THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE EVEN MORE TRAFFIC ON CONTINENTAL, I THINK, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE EVENTUALLY THEY SAY IT'S AN EMERGENCY ENTRANCE.

BUT WHAT'S TO EVENTUALLY STOP THEM FROM TRYING TO APPLY TO MAKE IT AN EMPLOYEE ENTRANCE? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE WERE TOLD, I THINK, THAT THERE MIGHT BE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES COMING THROUGH THERE AS WELL.

AND OUR STREET IS EXTREMELY NARROW.

WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A SHOULDER OF THE ROAD.

WE HAVE CHILDREN WHO PLAY ON OUR STREET.

MY CHILDREN PLAY ON THAT STREET.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WALK EVERY DAY.

IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE TO ME TO ADDRESS.

I THINK YOU GUYS SAID A HUNDRED FEET IS THE DISTANCE.

I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THIS ROOM IS ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET LONG.

I DON'T WANT THIS GIANT WAREHOUSE THAT FAR FROM MY HOUSE.

SEE, WE'VE HAD A REALLY HARD TIME FINDING THE PLANS, AS THIS OTHER GENTLEMAN JUST SAID, LIKE, I CAN'T SEE THAT.

IT'S VERY UNCLEAR FOR US IN THE BACK.

WE'VE HAD A REALLY HARD TIME FINDING ANY SPECIFIC PLANS REGARDING THIS.

IT'S LIKE THEY'RE HIDDEN ALMOST.

IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND.

I FEEL LIKE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE WILL GO DOWN BECAUSE OF ALL THE NOISE THAT THIS IS GOING TO GENERATE, WHAT'S IS GOING TO DO WITH OUR PROPERTY VALUES? YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE, BUT I ALSO KIND OF WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S

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GOING TO BE IN THE BUILDING.

IT WAS JUST STATED AS LIKE A DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE.

WHAT LIKE WHAT ARE THEY DISTRIBUTING? I DON'T, BECAUSE THAT DEFINITELY REALLY MATTERS TO US.

LET'S SEE.

SORRY, I HAVE NOTE.

AND AS FAR AS THE TREE PRESERVATION, THEY WANT TO PRESERVE LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT'S REQUIRED.

I KNOW THAT HE MENTIONED UNHEALTHY TREES AND THAT BEING AN EYESORE, IT'S NOT AN EYESORE TO ME.

WHAT'S GOING TO BE AN EYESORE IS THIS GIANT BUILDING AT THE END OF MY STREET, NOT THESE TREES THAT HE THINKS ARE AN ISSUE.

I ALSO NOTED THAT MR. BENDER LIVES IN DALLAS.

SO FOR ME, THIS IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT HIS QUALITY OF LIFE.

THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT SOUTHLAKE.

I ALSO KNOW THAT WITH ALL THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD WITH THE HIGH DENSITY ZONING GOING ON RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PRESERVE ANY GREEN SPACE THAT WE DO HAVE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW AREAS LEFT IN SOUTHLAKE.

THAT IS A NICE, DECENT AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE.

AND I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DO HAVE GOING ON.

AND I ALSO DID SEE THE 400, I THINK, PARKING SPACES.

I WANT TO SAY THAT'S A LOT OF CARS COMING AND GOING.

I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION OF THIS.

WILL IT BE MIDNIGHT? WILL BE A TWENTY FOUR HOUR PLACE WITHOUT I THINK MY TIME'S KIND OF UP, BUT THAT WAS MY ISSUES WITH THIS.

OK, NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TONIGHT.

NEXT UP IS ROSE SANDERS AT 1229 WOODSY COURT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

I BELIEVE.

HI .

THANKS FOR COMING OUT.

OH, TAKE TIME.

YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD.

HI, I'M ROSE SANDERS.

I LIVE 1229 WOODSY COURT FOR 20 YEARS.

IT'S A NICE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DON'T WANT THIS DOWN AT THE END OF OUR STREET.

WHY WEREN'T WE NOTIFIED TILL, LIKE, IT'S TOO LATE? SHOULDN'T WE HAVE BEEN IN ON IT ON THE BEGINNING.

I AGREE WITH THE EXIT.

IF IT CAN BE OUR COURT , THEN WHY CAN'T THEY BUILD IT OUT THE OTHER WAY AND STAY OFF OUR STREET AND TIMBERLINE? WE HAVE MY RETIRED MOM, MY SISTER AND I, MY COUSINS, WE WALK THAT STREET, IT'S QUIET.

YOU CAN HEAR THE BIRDS AND STUFF.

THERE'S CRITTERS LIVE OVER THERE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THIS WAREHOUSE.

WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO? THEY'RE GOING TO START COMING INTO OUR YARDS, INTO OUR HOUSE.

SO WE DO NOT WANT THE EXIT ON WOODSY COURT OR TIMBERLINE.

IF YOU HAD THIS GOING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'D BE UPSET, TOO.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT IS VINCENT.

YOU MIGHT HAVE TO HELP ME ON THE LAST NAME KIJAMA.

OK, YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK OR JUST OK, COME ON UP.

COME ON UP AT 1219 WESTWARD DRIVE.

HE WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION I BELIEVE.

IS IT OK TO JUDGE WESTWOOD, BUT I TRUST YOU, I TRUST YOU MORE THAN THE CAR.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

1219 WOODSY COURT.

VINCENT KIJAMA.

SO WE BOUGHT OUR LAND ABOUT IN 2013-2014 TIMEFRAME AND WE STRATEGICALLY BOUGHT THAT LAND BECAUSE IT WAS A CUL-DE-SAC AND IT WAS QUIET, HAD A LOT OF GREEN SPACE, AND WE MOVED FROM IRVING TO SOUTHLAKE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GIVE OUR KIDS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED IN THE BEST SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND WE FOUND A PIECE OF LAND WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT HAD GREAT GREEN SPACE, VERY QUIET AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, BECAUSE IT HAD A CUL-DE-SAC.

AND THAT WAS MY IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE PRESERVED.

SO AT THE TIME, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A NEWBORN.

SO NOW WE COMPLETED BUILDING A HOUSE IN 2015.

THAT NEWBORN IS NOW FIVE YEARS OLD.

I JUST HAD A PROUD MOMENT, A PROUD DAD MOMENT JUST THIS LAST MONTH WHERE I'VE TAUGHT MY SON HOW TO RIDE A BIKE WITHOUT HIS TRAINING WHEELS, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE STREET, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS AND THAT STREET IS SO QUIET AND THAT'S WHERE THE KIDS PLAY.

AND I CAN GUARANTEE TO YOU THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT HOUSES THAT HAS KIDS THAT ARE LESS THAN FIVE YEARS OLD THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BE TRAINING AND RIDING THEIR BIKES, TRAINING AND RIDING THEIR SCOOTERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE BECAUSE THEY PLAY OUTSIDE IN THE STREET.

WE DO NOT WANT THAT EMERGENCY EXIT ON THAT STREET BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER KIDS.

THERE ARE LESS THAN FIVE.

WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME POSITION AS MY SON.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOSE OUT ON THAT MEMORY WHERE WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE OUR KIDS

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PLAY OUT IN THE STREET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT THEY CAN PLAY.

AND THEN MY WIFE WENT AROUND AND GOT PEOPLE TO SIGN THE PETITION AND SHE EMAILED IT TO KEN BAKER YESTERDAY.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CALL THAT OUT, THAT JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR OF OURS IS IN OPPOSITION OF IT.

AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE NOTE THAT WE REALLY MOVED HERE AND SPECIFICALLY PICKED OUT THAT LOT AND SPECIFICALLY PICKED OUT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT WAS QUIET.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING, EXERCISING, YOU KNOW, AS FOR THEIR MENTAL HEALTH AS WELL AS THEIR PHYSICAL HEALTH.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO SEE KIDS GOING OUTSIDE AND NOW WE MAY POTENTIALLY HAVE EMERGENCY EXIT THAT COULD INCREASE THE TRAFFIC VOLUME AS WELL AS IT MAY TAKE YEARS TO BUILD THAT PLANT OR THAT SITE.

AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION MOVING OR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE MOVING ALONG, THAT STREET IS JUST GOING TO DETERIORATE.

YOU KNOW, THOSE KIDS ABILITY TO PLAY OUTSIDE AS WELL AS THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

SO WITH THAT, OK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT.

NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS STEVE HOFFNER, I BELIEVE I THINK 6000 SOUTH [INAUDIBLE] OKLAHOMA WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

AND JUST TO BE FAIR, AGAIN, I'VE GOT TO GIVE YOU THE SAME THREE MINUTES I GAVE EVERYBODY ELSE.

[INAUDIBLE].

I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A PRESENTATION.

CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M STEVE HOFFNER WITH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS 6000 SOUTHWESTERN IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

I WAS ASKED BY THE MAGELLAN, THE OIL COMPANIES TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INPUT TO YOU.

THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, THE KEY COMPONENT IS THE MAKING OF THE TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS THEMSELVES.

AND WAREHOUSING IS A VERY BROAD CATEGORY, THE SITE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE.

IT DOES SAY EVEN SPECULATIVE IN NATURE.

I'LL SHOW YOU A SLIDE IN THE NEXT SLIDE COMPARING DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND USES.

BUT ONE OF THE LOWER LAND USE PROJECTIONS, WE USED TO DO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND IT MAY BE ACCURATE OR IT MAY NOT BE ACCURATE.

THE BECAUSE THE SPECULATIVE NATURE AND THE BROAD CATEGORY OF WAREHOUSING, SEVERAL THINGS CAN ACTUALLY GO IN TO THE LOCATION ITSELF.

WHAT WE DO IS WE MULTIPLY THE FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET TIMES A CODE FOR LIKE 1.71 TRIPS PER DAY FOR THE WAREHOUSING POINT AND 1.920.

YOU CAN LOOK DOWN THE CHART THERE, THOUGH, AND SEE OTHER TYPES OF INDUSTRIAL USES.

AND WE'VE ADDED, EVEN FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, SOME NEWER ONES, HIGH CUBE FULFILLMENT CENTERS, HIGH CUBE PARCEL HUBS.

AND YOU CAN SEE COMPARISON WISE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS.

SO IF THEY IT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, THERE IS NOT JUST A PURE WAREHOUSE, BUT ACTUALLY IS A FULFILLMENT CENTER.

IT CAN BE CONSIDERABLY MORE TRAFFIC.

THE INTERSECTION AT HIGHWAY 26 IS ALREADY PRETTY MUCH MAXED OUT.

THIS IS SHOWING THE PROJECTIONS OF THE NEW TRAFFIC TAKEN FROM THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

I'D LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE 504 LEFT TURNING VEHICLES WESTBOUND, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL AREA.

THAT'S VERY HIGH.

A NUMBER OF LEFT TURNING VEHICLES.

THEY DO HAVE TWO LANES IN WHICH THEY CAN TURN IN, BUT THERE'S ONLY TWO TOTAL LANES, FOR TURNING AND GOING STRAIGHT FROM THAT DIRECTION.

SOUTH IS THE EXACT SAME WAY COMING OUT OF THE SITE.

IT'S ALREADY AT CAPACITY.

IN FACT, THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT PARTICULAR APPROACH, THE EASTBOUND APPROACH IS OPERATING AT A LEVEL SERVICE AREA.

AND THE WAY THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE CURRENTLY SET, ONLY TWO TRUCKS CAN GET THROUGH AT ONE TIME.

THIS IS A PICTURE THAT I TOOK OUT THERE THAT SHOWS THE SECOND ONE ACTUALLY HAS TO STOP.

THE GAS TRUCKS HAVE TO STOP AT THAT RAILROAD TRACK AND THE SECOND ONE HAS TO GO THROUGH AND YELLOW.

AND THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM TO ADD ANY MORE GREEN TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM 26.

THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN ANALYSIS OF IT.

AGAIN, OF THE TRUCKS.

WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT A SECOND POINT OF ACCESS, FULL ACCESS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THE MOST IMPORTANT SOUTHWEST INTERSECTION ASSIGNMENT OF RIGHT OF WAY IS BY STOP SIGN.

AND IF THE INBOUND WE CAN UNDERSTAND FREE FLOW BUT OUTBOUND THE SIDE STREETS ON

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SOUTHWEST, IT'D BE BETTER TO SIGN THE RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH THE SOUTHBOUND STOP SIGN.

AND IF THE PROJECTIONS ARE OFF BY EVEN A LITTLE BIT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT RECONFIGURING AND WIDENING THE INTERSECTION THERE AT MUSTANG COURT, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IS REALLY TO BE CONSIDERED AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE INVOLVED IN DOING THAT.

NEXT COMMENT CARD IS MIKE MCCANN, I BELIEVE.

2100 MUSTANG COURT WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, I BELIEVE.

THANK YOU, I'LL BE DONE.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS'.

MY NAME IS MIKE MCCANN.

2100 MUSTANG COURT, SOUTHLAKE 76092.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MAGELLAN TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF MUSTANG COURT.

WHICH WAY DO I GO WITH JUST.

OK, SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE.

THEY ASK, YOU KNOW, HAD YOU MET WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS? AND THE FACT WAS WE DIDN'T MEET WITH THEM UNTIL AFTER THE FIRST P AND Z MEETING.

THEN WE MET WITH THEM BEFORE THE SECOND P AND Z MEETING.

WE REALLY HAVEN'T EVER COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MAKE THIS A BOTH END APPROACH.

COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON POINTED OUT.

AND JUST LIKE MR. HOFFNER POINTED OUT SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE A SINGLE POINT OF ENTRY ISN'T DESIRABLE.

HE ASKED IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PUBLIC STREET, NO LIABILITY BACK TO THE CITY FOR MAINTENANCE.

WELL, THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY TRUE.

THIS IS A VIDEO THAT WAS TAKEN TODAY BY ME.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL NOTICE, LOOK HOW WIDE THAT TRUCK'S COMING IN, THAT RIGHT HAND TURN LANE.

THEY HAVE TO COME OUT WIDE AND THEY'RE CUTTING INTO THE LANE.

NOW, WATCH THIS CAR BACK UP THERE BACKING UP.

I DIDN'T STAGE THIS, THEY CAME OUT OF THAT WAS FROM PUBLIC STORAGE.

NOW, THE SECOND TRUCK'S COMING, THIS LADY FREAKS OUT, SO SHE'S GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RUN THE RED LIGHT AND THAT TRUCK'S COMING THROUGH, YOU SEE HOW WE WILL THINK ABOUT THAT AS THEY DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE TRAFFIC AS THEY COME IN THERE.

AND NOW THEY'RE DOUBLING AND TRIPLING THAT.

YOU'LL SEE THAT TURN IS REALLY TIGHT AS IT'S DESIGNED.

THIS IS, THERE'S A HEALTH AND SAFETY.

AND I NEED TO GET PAST THAT SLIDE.

HOW DO I GET WHICH WAY DO I GO? HOW DO I GET IT TO MOVE BACK? OK, SO THERE'S CONFLICTS HERE.

ONE IS WE SERVE 105,000 PEOPLE A DAY FILLING UP FUEL LOCAL RESIDENTS, WHETHER THEY BE SOUTHLAKE OR OTHER RESIDENTS AND THESE ARE FACILITIES ARE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR.

OUR BUSIEST DAYS TYPICALLY RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS, WE CAN BE PUSHING 300 TRUCKS.

IF YOU DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THAT NUMBER WITH THAT INTERSECTION THE WAY THAT IT IS, YOU'VE GOT SOME PUBLIC LIABILITY ISSUES.

A TWO WAY STOP ONLY SUPPORTS A SPECULATIVE DEVELOPMENT AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR EXISTING USES.

IN OUR MEETINGS WITH THEM SO FAR, WE HAVEN'T BORNE ANY FRUITFUL SOLUTIONS.

SO WE HAVE A PREEXISTING SAFETY ISSUES.

TURN RADIUS IS TIGHT, SHORT LIFE CYCLE OF 11 SECONDS, SINGLE POINT OF INGRESS, EGRESS, AND ONCE IT'S BUILT, IS IT A CITY ISSUE OR IS IT MUSTANG BUSINESS PARK'S ISSUE? AND SO WHILE THE SITE PLAN MAY BE LEGALLY CONFORMING, THE FACTS DEMONSTRATE THEIR REAL SIGNIFICANT SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELFARE ISSUES.

AND SO WHILE IT MAY BE LEGAL, IT MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

AND SO THE SECOND YOU KNOW, THESE SOLUTION CONSIDERATIONS, JUST LIKE HE POINTED OUT, SECOND POINT OF ACCESS, THREE OR FOUR WAY STOP WIDENING OR RECONFIGURING, THOSE ARE ALL COMPLEX PROBLEMS. BUT WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO WORK ON IT AND WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOME HELP.

AND THAT'S IT.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT COMMENT CARD, RALPH WEMPE, I BELIEVE.

1700 MUSTANG COURT, I BELIEVE.

MIC] OK.

MUCH THE SAME ONE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, AND AND MUCH OF THIS IS THAT I'VE BEEN LIVING THIS STUFF FOR A LONG TIME, 34 YEARS, AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN OUR FIRST LITTLE SLIDE THERE, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW WITH THE TRUCKS COMING IN, THE TRUCKS HAVING TO WAIT RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN WE ADDED THIS EXIT DOWN HERE TO STAGE 21 TRUCKS, 21 TRUCKS CAN STAGE OFF THE ROAD.

IN A PART OF THAT WAS SIX POINT NINE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE SPENT TO ACCOMMODATE

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THIS DEAL.

NOW, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE ORIGINALLY.

SO YOU HAD ALL THESE TRUCKS LINED UP THERE, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN OUR DATE WAS RIGHT THERE, WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE IN REVERSE NOW.

NOW, THESE TRUCKS ARE GOING TO BE ON THIS SIDE BECAUSE YOU ARE PUTTING A TWO WAY STOP THERE, WHEREAS IF YOU PUT A THREE WAY STOP, THEY'LL PROGRESS WITH TRAFFIC OR PROGRESS IS NATURALLY SUPPOSED TO DO.

IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO POKE IN THE EYE TO US OVER SIX POINT NINE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE SPENT TO MAKE IT BETTER.

SO IMPROVEMENTS, WE RELOCATED TODAY.

I SHOWED YOU THERE.

WE EXPANDED THE TRUCK STAGING AREA ON NUSTAR PROPERTY, THE FIRE LANE IMPROVEMENTS FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS.

THAT'S THIS ROUTE HERE.

WE PUT A WHOLE NEW LANE IN RIGHT HERE SO WE COULD GET EMERGENCY ACCESS, THE TRUCK RACK IMPROVEMENTS, BOTH SOUTHLAKE AND GRAPEVINE TO MANAGE IT MORE EFFICIENTLY, THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.

SO BASICALLY WE HAVE A SIX POINT NINE MILLION DOLLARS.

SO OUR QUESTIONS ARE, WILL IT BE OK TO STAGE THE TRUCKS ON MUSTANG COURT NOW? WHY IS IT OK NOW BUT BEFORE WE SPENT SIX POINT NINE MILLION IT WASN'T OK.

THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

SO THE TWO WAY STOPS, A BIG PROBLEM.

WHERE'S THE MUSTANG BUSINESS PARK GOING TO STAGE THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC? YOU KNOW, WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE STAGED? IS IT GOING TO BE STAGED ON THE SOUTHWESTERN THERE OR WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE STAGED? AND HAVE THAT SOLVE THE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND WELFARE CONCERNS FOR SOUTHLAKE? YOU KNOW, OR SOUTHLAKE CONCERNED ABOUT IT OR NOT? THANK YOU.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

NEXT CARD IS ZACH CERTA PROBABLY NOT SEEING THAT RIGHT, 1008 ASPEN RIDGE DRIVE SOUTHLAKE.

OK, GOOD.

I'M SURE I SLAUGHTERED THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, I BELIEVE.

IT'S ZACK CATE, I'M LEFT HANDED, SO I DON'T BEGRUDGE YOU, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH ME AS YOU.

WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO REITERATE WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE STATED.

I MEAN, THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS THAT THERE ARE 105,000 VEHICLES EVERY DAY FROM SOUTHLAKE IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES THAT RELY ON MAGELLAN AND NUSTAR TERMINALS TO BE ABLE TO FILL UP THEIR VEHICLES.

AND THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS THAT THIS IS CREATING AND AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT NOT ONLY FOR THE PROPOSED NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTHLAKE IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

CONSIDERING THE WAY THAT THIS IS DESIGNED, THE ONE OF THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EMERGENCY ACCESS GOING THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD UP HERE.

MS. SANDERS, WHEN SHE WAS UP HERE, SHE ASKED THE QUESTION OF WHAT WOULD YOU HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THIS EMERGENCY ACCESS WAS GOING THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? WELL, HERE'S THE ANSWER TO HER QUESTION.

THERE IS NOT ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTHLAKE THAT WOULD EVER CONSIDER HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AN EMERGENCY ACCESS FROM THIS KIND OF USE GOING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I AM NOT AWARE OF AN EMERGENCY ACCESS FOR ANY OTHER USE IN ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTHLAKE GOING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIRD POINT IS THAT THERE'S THE, RATHER THE FOUR POINT IS THAT THE STOP SIGN IS GOING TO CAUSE THE GOOD CORPORATE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, IF YOU'RE TALKING MAGELLAN MORE THAN A DECADE, NUSTAR MANY DECADES TO HAVE TO SUFFER THE HARDSHIP OF THE NEW BUSINESS COMING INTO THE AREA.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR HAVING A RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE NEW BUSINESS WHENEVER THE CORPORATE CITIZENS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE PAYING TAXES AND LIKE RALPH SAID, SPENDING SIX POINT NINE DOLLARS MILLION TO ALLEVIATE STACKING CONCERNS ALL OF A SUDDEN ARE THE ONES THAT ARE HAVING TO PAY THE PRICE OF HAVING THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN HERE.

FIFTH POINT IS THAT SPECIFICALLY ON THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, OR THE LIGHT ISSUE, THE MR. HOFFNER BROUGHT UP.

I DID SPEAK WITH THE GRAPEVINE SENIOR CIVIL ENGINEER ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE ANY PLANS TO INCREASE THE LIGHT TIME AT MUSTANG.

THERE ARE NOT.

THEIR MAIN CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS TXDOT IS FINISHING UP THE PROJECT IN COLLEYVILLE.

AND WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO? IT'S GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN 26.

THEIR CONCERN IS THE HIGH SCHOOL.

THEIR CONCERN IS THE NEW TRAFFIC FROM COLLEYVILLE.

IT IS NOT AN INTERSECTION AT MUSTANG COURT.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CARDS TO ALLEVIATE THE CONCERNS THAT ONLY TWO TRUCKS CAN GET THROUGH THERE AT ANY GIVEN TIME AND THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO HAUL TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

LASTLY, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER NUSTAR WAS ASKED TO ALLEVIATE THESE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, THEY WERE HAPPY TO DO SO.

IT'S JUST NOT GOOD GOVERNANCE TO PUNISH A CORPORATE CITIZEN LIKE THAT AFTER THEY WENT THROUGH THE TROUBLE TO ALLEVIATE THE EXACT SAME CONCERN ON SOUTHWEST THAT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO CREATE.

FOR THOSE REASONS, THERE EITHER NEEDS TO BE A NEW PROPOSAL ON ANOTHER ACCESS OR SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF ALLOWING EQUAL ACCESS OUT OF MUSTANG COURT.

BUT THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT AS IS IS NOT THAT.

SO WE ARE OPPOSED.

NEXT COMMENT CARD IS ARNOLD KIMBALL, WHICH IS FROM 418 WITTY ROAD, I THINK IN KYLE, TEXAS, DOES NOT OWE APOLOGIES, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, IS IN

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OPPOSITION.

I'VE ALREADY READ THAT ONE TWICE.

PUT YOUR MONEY'S WORTH ON THAT ONE.

THE LAST ONE HERE, THE COMMENT CARD, AT LEAST MINE IS FROM PAUL HASSENFELD, I BELIEVE.

1220 WOODSY COURT WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION ON THE SITE.

YES, PAUL HASSENFELD, 1220 WOODSY COURT.

I SPOKE LAST TIME, THAT THIS WAS BEFORE YOU GUYS, MY CONCERN BACK THEN WAS AROUND THE KIDS ON OUR STREET AND THE EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT WAS BEING GRANTED.

THERE WERE A LOT OF CONJECTURE ABOUT WHAT THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE MAY LOOK LIKE.

AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN TODAY'S PRESENTATIONS TO TELL ME WHAT THAT GATE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

I'M CONCERNED WITH THE EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD BE AT THIS RESIDENCE WERE AN ISOLATED NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS ON OUR STREET.

THERE IS NO CROSSWALK TO GET TO THE BRAND NEW SIDEWALKS THAT WERE PLACED ON THE NORTH END OF THE CONTINENTAL.

WE ARE AN ISOLATED NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ONLY PLACE THAT OUR KIDS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO EGRESS TO AS A RESULT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THROUGH THIS CONSTRUCTION YARD TOWARDS CONTINENTAL OR TOWARDS 26.

SO IT'S BASICALLY LINKING UP STUFF WITH GRAPEVINE RATHER THAN SOUTHLAKE AT THAT POINT.

YOU KNOW, I'VE MOVED INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD 10 YEARS AGO, VERY FIRST YEAR WE WERE THERE, WE BUILT A POOL.

I DID EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT I DIDN'T REDUCE ANY OF THE TREES ON MY PROPERTY.

I ONLY ELIMINATED ONE TREE, WHICH WAS LESS THAN 10 PERCENT OF THE TREES ON MY PROPERTY.

THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS REQUIRED TO DO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN CONSTRUCTION THERE.

AND THIS COMPANY IS ASKING TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO LESS THAN TWENTY EIGHT PERCENT.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN A CUL-DE-SAC, AS THE OTHER GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY DESIRABLE WHERE THERE'S BEEN NEW DEVELOPMENT ON OUR STREET.

THERE'S A NEW HOUSE THAT JUST COMPLETED THIS WEEK OR THIS YEAR.

THERE'S ANOTHER HOUSE THAT I'VE NOTICED HAS BEEN THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN LEVELED, THIS WITHIN THE LAST THREE TO FOUR WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT NEW, RICH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'RE IN.

AND SOMEBODY ALSO BROUGHT UP EARLIER CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, I MEAN, I HADN'T EVEN PROPOSED THAT OR CONTEMPLATED THAT, BUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT FOR THIS COMING DOWN OUR STREET AS PART OF THIS NEW EGRESSED THAT'S BEEN GRANTED, NOT EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THAT COME DOWN MY STREET THE SUMMER OR WHATEVER THIS CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPS.

I KNOW I'D LOVE TO SEE A CROSSWALK FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE NORTHERN END OF CONTINENTAL.

NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THAT, BUT I JUST FIGURED I'D BRING IT UP WHILE I'M HERE.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

APPRECIATE THAT.

ONE MORE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I READ MAYBE A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL QUICK.

HAVE EFFECTIVELY A FORM, I GUESS, FROM IDA PINADO.

SORRY, I'M PRONOUNCING THAT RIGHT, AT 1232 TIMBERLINE.

COURT AND JUST WANTS TO REGISTER OPPOSITION.

AND WE DID RECEIVE YOUR LETTER NOTING AS SUCH.

WE ALSO ALL OF US HAVE [INAUDIBLE] TO RECORD THE PETITION THAT WAS REFERENCED EARLIER TONIGHT RELATIVE TO THE WOODSY COURT AND TIMBERLINE COURT RESIDENCES, WHERE YOU HAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.

SO IF I HAVEN'T IF YOU HAVE NOT COME UP TO SPEAK YET AND WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE FEEL FREE, I THINK WE'VE GOT A FIRST TAKER HERE.

JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD BY NOW.

KAMIL DRAGAS ON 1235 WOODSY COURT AND SPEAKING OUR POSITION.

SO AGAIN, I THINK WE TRY TO ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE WITH KEN HOLMES AND TRY TO WORK ON SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF OUR ISSUES.

THEY MADE A VEILED ATTEMPT OF SOME CERTAIN THINGS, BUT NOT REALLY ANYTHING THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S CLOSE TO A HUNDRED TRUCK BAYS AT ALL OF THE BUILDINGS THEY ARE FACING WEST AND EAST.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE IS NOTHING TO CONTROL THE SOUND FROM THOSE TRUCKS PULLING UP AND LOADING IF IT'S TRULY GOING TO BE NOT THAT BIG OF OF BUSY ENVIRONMENT FOR THOSE WAREHOUSES.

WHY SO MANY BAYS? RIGHT.

SO I THINK THAT REALLY JUST CONTRADICTS ITSELF.

THE OTHER POINT I WANT TO BRING UP IS THE FROM THE END OF OUR STREET, WHICH THERE IS A PROPERTY RIGHT AGAINST IT.

I'M RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

IT'S 47 FEET TO THE DRIVEWAY FROM THE END OF THAT, FROM THE END OF THE ACTUAL STREET ITSELF, THERE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ADEQUATE NOISE, NOT JUST PEOPLE PARKING, BUT THE TRUCKS PULLING IN AND OUT.

SO THAT'S A HUGE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

SOMEONE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT.

YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW CLOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS.

IT TAKES UP, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OF THE DRY, ALL THE STREETS, ALL OF THE THE PARKING AREAS, IT TAKES UP ALMOST 80 PERCENT OF THAT LAND.

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AND I KNOW SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING HOUSES.

SO AS I WAS MADE TO KEEP TREES, I WAS TOLD TO MOVE MY HOUSE IN A DIRECTION TO SAVE A TREE.

AND NOW WE'RE ALLOWING A DEVELOPMENT OF A BUSINESS TO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WIPE OUT, YOU KNOW, FORTY PERCENT OF THOSE TREES THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS JUST REALLY DON'T MAKE SENSE.

THIS IS THE WRONG DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS LAND.

I KNOW INDUSTRIAL MEANS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COULD BE A BIG BUSINESS PARK WITH DOCTORS' OFFICES THAT LOOK LIKE HOUSES THAT COULD FIT VERY WELL INTO THAT.

I THINK THIS IS JUST A CASE OF JUST THE WRONG THING IN THE WRONG PLACE.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

PUBLIC HEARING STAYS OPEN.

OK, GO AHEAD.

COME ON UP.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.

HELLO.

JAY CAULTER.

SORRY JAY CAULTER 13455 NOELLE ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.

I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED TONIGHT.

I'M A TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON THE STUDY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

I'D SAY FIRST OFF, THE CITY'S FINE TO DEVELOP.

THEY'RE FREE TO DEVELOP THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTHWESTERN AND MUSTANG AS A FOUR WAY STOP.

WE ANALYZED BOTH IN OUR REPORT.

BOTH SEEMED TO WORK FINE.

WE RECOMMENDED ONE.

IT'S OK IF YOU WERE TO DO THE OTHER.

IT'S UP TO THE CITY'S DISCRETION.

SO THE SECOND THING WOULD BE ON TO TO SPEAK TO THE WOODSY COURT.

THAT IS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.

WE CAN'T JUST SEND TRUCKS OUT THERE FOR FUN.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO.

AND SO THE ONLY TRAFFIC THAT WOULD EVER BE THERE WOULD BE EMERGENCIES.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCIES ARE EXACTLY THAT.

THEY'RE JUST EMERGENCIES ARE EXTREMELY RARE.

AND THEY'RE COORDINATED BY THE SOUTHLAKE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND HAS APPROVED THE PLAN AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

TO SPEAK TO THE TRIP GEN CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED.

PART OF REDUCING THE BUILDING HEIGHT ACTUALLY REMOVES SOME OF THE POTENTIAL TENANTS THAT COULD BE INTO THE BUILDING.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS VERY.

IT WAS HIGH CUBE WAREHOUSE, AND WITHOUT A HIGH BUILDING, IT'S DIFFICULT TO PUT A HIGH CUBE WAREHOUSE INTO THE BUILDING.

SO WE ARE LOOKING MORE AT WAREHOUSING USES, NOT THESE HIGH CUBE FULFILLMENT CENTERS, HIGH CUBE WAREHOUSES.

WITH TRAFFIC VOLUMES, JUST TO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT AT MUSTANG COURT AND STATE HIGHWAY 26 IN OUR TRAFFIC STUDY, WE ACTUALLY DOUBLED THE VOLUMES TO TRY AND ACCOUNT FOR THE IMPACTS TO TRAFFIC FOR COVID.

AND THEN WE ALMOST TRIPLED THEM IN THE AFTERNOON, PEAK HOUR OR SO IN IN THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC.

AND SO WE COLLECTED WE ONLY HAD 13 VEHICLES TURNING LEFT DURING OUR HIGHEST PEAK HOUR OF THE DAY.

SO THAT'S ABOUT ONE EVERY FIVE MINUTES DURING YOUR MAXIMUM PEAK HOUR.

AND OF COURSE, THERE COULD BE TIMES WHERE THERE WOULD BE MORE THAN THAT.

BUT THIS IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY COLLECTED OUT AT THE SITE.

SO EVERY TWO MINUTES WE GET A GREEN LIGHT FOR MUSTANG COURT AS THE TIMING IS TODAY.

AND AS YOU HEARD, THERE ARE NO PLANS TO RETIME THE CORRIDOR AS OF NOW.

SO THAT WON'T CHANGE.

SO JUST SOME QUICK MATH THERE.

IF YOU HAVE ONE LEFT TURNING VEHICLE ABOUT EVERY FIVE MINUTES AND YOU HAVE A GREEN LIGHT EVERY TWO MINUTES, THAT MEANS THERE WILL BE GREEN LIGHTS GOING UNUSED.

SO THE IDEA THAT THERE WILL BE JUST MASSIVE TRAFFIC BACKUPS, IF YOU HAVE UNUSED GREEN LIGHTS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE VEHICLE STACKING AND STACKING AND STACKING.

OUR VEHICLES ALSO DON'T NEED TO STOP THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

AND SO THE SAME KINDS OF DELAYS.

IT'S NOT AS IF WE'RE ADDING MORE FUEL TRUCKS.

WE'RE ADDING CARS THAT CAN FREELY FLOW ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

SO THAT WAS THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I GUESS THE NEXT SPEAKER HERE, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MY NAME IDA PINADO.

I'M LIVING IN 1232 TIMBERLANE COURT AND LIVING IN MY ADDRESS FOR 18 YEARS, AND THE REASON I AM HERE, I WORK FOR 18 YEARS AT GREYHOUND, IN TRANSPORTATION AND SAFETY.

ONE OF MY OPPOSITION IS BECAUSE THE SAFETY AND SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE CANNOT SEE WHAT HAPPENED TODAY.

WE NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FUTURE.

AND THIS IS A RESPONSIBILITY ON ALL OF YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] TO RECONSIDER THAT DECISION THAT YOU TAKE TODAY OR TOMORROW OR WHATEVER.

HOW CAN WE AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTHLAKE? WHEN I CAME HERE IN 1999.

THIS IS A FAMILY CITY.

NOT A BUSINESS CITY, IT'S A FAMILY.

I REMEMBER THAT ER MEAN EVERY NEIGHBOR IS RESPONSIBLE TO BE SAFE IN THE AREA OF SOUTHLAKE

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AND SOUTHLAKE WAS CONTINENTAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SOUTHLAKE [INAUDIBLE].

SO ACTUALLY YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETHING I ALERT IN SAFETY BECAUSE IN TRANSPORTATION, WORKING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION IN THE FIELD IS SAFETY.

IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF TRAINING OF SAFETY.

YOU NEVER PREVENT ANY ACCIDENTS.

THE ACCIDENT HAPPENED.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE OF YOU FOR OUR INTEGRITY IS SOMETHING HAPPENED? BECAUSE WE ARE AROUND THE OUR AREA IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DIESEL TANK, THE GASOLINE.

SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, ANY ACCIDENT, BECAUSE 18 WHEELER IN THE WAREHOUSE WANTED TO GO FAST AND HE DO NOT RESPECT THE GASOLINE TRAILER, WHAT HAPPENED? IF WE HAVE AN ACCIDENT LIKE A 15 OR 16 YEARS AGO, WE HAVE AN ACCIDENT, NOT AN ACCIDENT.

ONE OF THE 18 WHEELER IS STUCK IN THE TRAIN AND EVERYBODY WAS EVACUATED IN OUR AREA BECAUSE I HAVE A SUSPICION THAT MAYBE WE HAVE A EXPLOSION OR SOMETHING.

SO WHO WILL BE HANDLE, WHO WILL BE HANDLING THE LIABILITY IF SOMETHING HAPPENED? WHO WILL PAY US IF WE HAVE ANY ACCIDENT OR INCIDENT IN OUR AREA? WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOUTHLAKE? THE [INAUDIBLE] CITY, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE? SO JUST THINKING, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, DO SOMETHING BUT DON'T THINKING BECAUSE THAT'S HAPPENED RIGHT NOW, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE FUTURE.

NOT RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW THAT WE NEED BUSINESS, BUT THIS CITY IS NOT ONLY FOR BUSINESS.

IT'S FOR THE PEOPLE AND WE WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AND ALL OF YOU WORK FOR THE PEOPLE.

AND I HOPE THAT THIS IS RECORDED IN THE ACT.

YEAH, IT IS.

AND JUST AS A NOTE, THEY ARE ALL THESE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED.

THEY'RE VIEWABLE ONLINE, INCLUDING THE PAST MEETINGS AS WELL.

IF YOU DIDN'T WEREN'T ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE.

SO THAT'S A GOOD THING TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD.

OK, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.

IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT AND JUST, SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO COMMENT IF YOU HAVEN'T COMMENTED ALREADY.

ONCE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE KIND OF GO BACK AND START ADDRESSING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

OK, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING VERY COURTEOUS AND PROFESSIONAL UP HERE AND STICKING TO THE TIMING REQUESTED.

VERY SMOOTHLY RUN PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO DEFINITELY WANT TO NOTE THAT.

AND I'LL SCRIBBLED OUT A LOT OF A LOT OF QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

I WANT TO TRY TO RUN THROUGH THOSE PRIMARILY WITH STAFF.

I MEAN, THERE MAY BE A FEW WITH THE APPLICANT AS WELL, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST A LITTLE BETTER WHEN WE HEAR IT FROM STAFF.

I GUESS, FIRST OF ALL, ANY OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT REQUESTING OR NEEDING INFORMATION ON THIS CASE AND, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS UP HERE, PLANNING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND THEY ARE HAPPY, YOU KNOW, FIVE DAYS A WEEK TO GIVE YOU WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU NEED, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, THIS PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING.

THERE'S NOT YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION.

SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED OR WANT TO SEE OR EVALUATE, JUST PLEASE REACH OUT TO THEM.

AND THEY'RE HAPPY TO HELP YOU WITH ANY OF THOSE REQUESTS.

MAYBE WE'LL GO, MAYBE WE'LL START WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY AGAIN.

AND WE WENT THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DENNIS AND I MIGHT TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS JUST TO CONFIRM SOME OF THESE DETAILS.

I THINK THE FENCE, I GUESS, EIGHT FOOT AND WHAT BUILDING MATERIALS AGAIN, ON THAT? EIGHT FOOT SOLID WOOD FENCE, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR THE ADJACENCY OF THIS ZONING DISTRICT TO THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING ZONING DISTRICT.

I WOULD DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON THE REPRESENTATION OF THE CROSS SECTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE TOPOGRAPHIC DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE BOUNDARY IS CONSISTENT AS YOU MOVE THE FULL LENGTH OF THE BOUNDARY.

BUT HOW THEY WOULD BE GRADING THE SIDE, I THINK THIS IS CERTAINLY REPRESENTATIVE FOR AT LEAST A PORTION OF THAT BOUNDARY AS FAR AS A GRADE DIFFERENTIAL.

SO THERE'S SOME GRADE DIFFERENTIAL THERE, BUT IT'S NOT I GUESS IT'S HARD TO GIVE A VERY PRECISE ANSWER, BUT THERE IS SOMEWHAT OF ONE.

OK, OK, SO THE FENCE MATERIAL, I GUESS IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE AGAIN, I GUESS IF YOU DON'T MIND REAL QUICK.

OK, SO THE PARKING ALONG THE BUILDING, IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S CAR PARKING.

IT'S NOT TRAILER PARKING.

I KNOW TRAILERS, SPOTS ARE TYPICALLY I GUESS LIKE NINE FEET.

NINE BY EIGHTEEN.

SO THESE ARE KNOWN BY 18.

I BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE DRIVEWAY.

THE DRIVE LANE THROUGH THIS SECTION IS A I BELIEVE A 30 FOOT WIDE DRIVEWAY.

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OKAY.

OK AND OK.

AND THAT IS I GUESS A LITTLE BIT OF A BERM.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE LANDSCAPING WILL BE KIND OF UP ELEVATION AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THEY BRING IT DOWN.

AND THEN THE TREES, I GUESS THAT JUST CONFIRMING AGAIN THAT THAT IS EITHER EQUAL OR IN EXCESS OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THEY THEY ARE LOCATING WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR THAT BUFFER YARD.

THIS BOUNDARY ALSO INCLUDES SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL TREES THAT THEY ARE DOING TO OFFSET THE PRESERVATION, THE TREE PRESERVATION ON THE SITE.

AND I DID KIND OF NOTE THE FENCE WILL TALK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

BUILDING HEIGHT, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN TWENTY EIGHT FOOT WAS REFERENCE, THAT'S 20, 20 FOOT CLEAR HEIGHT, WHICH REPRESENTS THE CLEAR HEIGHT FROM THE FOUNDATION, I BELIEVE, UP TO THE RAFTERS OF THE BUILDING.

SO THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF IS PROBABLY A LITTLE TALLER THAN TWENTY FEET.

WHAT'S THE CORRECT.

NO, NO.

NONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT SEE THE DISTRICT HEIGHT OF 35 FEET AND THAT'S NOT WHERE THEY ARE.

REQUIREMENT.

AND THE EXTERIOR IS, I GUESS, A TILT WALL MATERIAL.

IT'S TILT WALL CONSTRUCTION WITH SOME ACCENTS OF METAL PANEL.

SOME WHAT'S CALLED NICHIHA, WHICH IS A MASONRY TYPE PRODUCT AND IT HAS A WOOD TEXTURE AND I CAN GET TO.

ONE OF THEIR ELEVATIONS SHOWS, ON THE RIGHT RIGHT HAND COLUMN UNDER MATERIALS THAT LIST ALL THE MATERIALS THEY'RE USING ON EACH OF THE BUILDINGS.

OK, WHICH IS LOOMING STOREFRONT GLAZING THAT WOULD BE ON THE GLASS, THE PRIMARY CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL IS STILL RAW WITH THE TEXTURED FINISH, THEY'RE USING SOME ARCHITECTURAL METAL PANELS AND SIDING ON VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF THE BUILDING.

AND THEN THE WOOD, WOOD TYPE NICHIHA PRODUCT.

OK, NOW MAYBE TRANSITIONING TO THE GATE, I GUESS MAYBE PER ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, ARE THERE ANY IMAGES IN HERE OF WHAT THE GATE WOULD LOOK LIKE? REMEMBER THAT.

THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED A DESIGN OF THE GATE AND NOT QUITE YET, SIR.

LET ME KEEP GOING THROUGH ALL THE.

THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE TO HAVE A EIGHT FOOT SOLID, OPAQUE BARRIER FOR WHICH THE GATE WOULD BE MADE UP OF, AND THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED A FINAL DESIGN FOR THAT.

OK, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BUILDING ON THE GATE.

YOU KNOW, SO IT'S AN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT THAT IS DESIRED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SO THERE IS NO ABILITY TO CONVERT THAT TO ANYTHING BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE APPLICANT STARTED USING IT FOR ANYTHING BUT THAT THAT'S WHERE THE CITY WOULD STOP IT.

RIGHT? IS IT? YES.

AND I GUESS THE ONLY WAY THAT IT COULD BE USED BEYOND THAT WOULD BE, I GUESS, A SITE PLAN REQUEST, I GUESS, OR I MEAN, WELL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REQUEST SOMETHING FORMALLY COME THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS TO DO THAT, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND JUST TO POINT OUT, THE CITY'S DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE WITH THE WOODSY COURT, TIMBERLINE BEING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THAT SECTION OF STREET, BEING A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET THAT WOULD REQUIRE A DRIVEWAY VARIANCE IN ORDER TO ALLOW FULL USABLE ACCESS OR EVEN SERVICE ACCESS.

THE SITE PLAN VARIANCE.

FOR THE BUSINESS TO OPERATE UTILIZING THAT DRIVEWAY.

SO THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THIS CONNECTION IS FOR THE EMERGENCY, THAT WHATEVER REASON, OUR FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES VEHICLES COULD NOT ACCESS THAT PROPERTY OR SOME OTHER EMERGENCY THAT PEOPLE NEEDED TO EVACUATE AND COULD NOT GET OUT OK.

AND ANY OTHER MEANS.

AND THAT WOULD BE SOLELY CONTROLLED BY OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES OF THE CITY.

OK, SO THAT'LL BE A SITE PLAN WITH A VARIANCE REQUEST.

WHICH CITY WOULD HAVE FULL DISCRETION ON EITHER GRANTING OR NOT GRANTING? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND I'M ASSUMING, BASED ON YOUR DEFINITION, THAT THEY COULD NOT USE THIS ACCESS POINT FOR CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC? THAT IS CORRECT.

OK, AND I GUESS RELATED TO THAT, I GUESS, DOES THE CITY HAVE A PREFERENCE OR ABILITY REALLY RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION, TRAFFIC OR STAGING ON THE SITE? I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING.

THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO DO THAT ON THEIR SITE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

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CAN'T I MEAN, IF IT SPILLS OUT ONTO THE COLLECTOR STREET AND THAT'S A PROBLEM, RIGHT? I BELIEVE, YES THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME AND ADDRESS A SITUATION THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACTED THE TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET.

AND AGAIN, I GUESS RELATED TO ANY OF THE ACTIVITIES ON THE SITE, ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE GOVERNED BY CITY NOISE ORDINANCE AND LIGHT ORDINANCE, ET CETERA.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET THE LIGHTING ORDINANCE OF, THEY CERTAINLY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND COULD NOT EXCEED THE DAYTIME, NIGHT TIME DECIBEL LEVELS THAT ARE RESTRICTED UNDER THAT ORDINANCE.

AND THEN REGARDING THE TRAFFIC COMMENTS, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE SOME ITEMS WITHIN THAT INTERSECTION THAT MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF IMPACT THAT THE CITY CAN HAVE AND SOME THAT'S OUT OF ITS CONTROL.

I GUESS ONE OF THEM, IT SEEMED LIKE THE INTERSECTION THERE, RIGHT AT THE SITE ENTRANCE, IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT MAYBE BEING A FOUR WAY STOP ISN'T IDEAL FOR THAT NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC, BUT MAKING IT A THREE WAY STOP, I GUESS.

IS THAT SOMETHING WITHIN THE CITY'S PURVEY TO POTENTIALLY DO? YES.

YES, IT IS.

IT'S JUST OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS REVIEW OF IT, SO THE TWO WAY STOP WAS ADEQUATE, A THREE WAY STOP THAT WOULD STILL ALLOW INGRESS, TRAFFIC, NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC TO FREE FLOW AND NOT BLOCK THAT RAILWAY OR NOT GET BLOCKED IN THAT RAILWAY.

I THINK THAT'S THE PRIMARY ISSUE THAT IS WANTING TO ADDRESS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT ISN'T A HAZARD? BUT IT COULD CERTAINLY BE A POSSIBILITY OF A THREE WAY STOP.

OK, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK I GUESS THAT AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, I'D ASK IF STAFF COULD MAYBE WORK WITH WITH CITY CONSULTANT AGAIN TO KIND OF CONFIRM MAYBE SOME OF THOSE POINTS THAT THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT MAYBE CAN BE DONE WITHIN CITY'S DISCRETION THAT CAN MAYBE HELP ALLEVIATE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT THAT THEY CONSIDER LOOKING AT THAT, I GUESS ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, I GUESS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF KIND OF STAFF RELATED TYPE QUESTIONS FIRST AND THEN I'LL MAYBE I'LL BRING THE APPLICANT UP AFTERWARDS, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAYBE KNOCK OUT THE STAFF ONES FIRST.

YOU DON'T GET ON THAT FRONT, OK, AND WE CAN OBVIOUSLY ASK STAFF SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF WE NEED TO, BUT NOW I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

YOU HEARD SOME OF THIS, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT, I GUESS, FIRST THE FENCING MATERIALS.

AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS OR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE HAS BEEN OR IF THERE HASN'T, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE IN TERMS OF DESIRABILITY OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

YEAH, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS ON MATERIALS.

I MEAN, WE'RE SHOWING A WOOD FENCE.

STONE WAS NOT A GREAT OPTION JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A WATER LINE ADJACENT TO THAT FENCE LINE.

IF I CAN SHOW MY I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT I GOT A COUPLE OF SLIDES ON THE [INAUDIBLE].

DENNIS, I GUESS DO YOU MIND, AS JUST KIND OF REFERENCE POINT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE VISUAL, MAYBE THEY CAN HELP US BETTER.

CLICK ON IT.

WE WENT THROUGH IT AT THE LAST SESSION.

IT'S.

THANK YOU SO FOR THE FENCE.

SO, AGAIN, WE WERE SHOWN SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE IT BLENDS IN REALLY WELL WITH THE FENCE OR RATHER THE GATE, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S A NATURAL GATE THAT'S GOING TO BE OPEN AND CLOSING.

IT'S MORE OF A PERMANENT, YOU KNOW, IN THE CLOSED POSITION, SOMETHING THAT KIDS CAN'T CRAWL UNDER, BALLS CAN'T GO UNDERNEATH.

SO THAT WAS THE INTENT ON THE GATE VERSUS SOMETHING LIKE YOU SEE IN THE TOP PICTURE.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, I GUESS, WRITTEN IN THAT YOU WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

RIGHT? I MEAN, THE UPKEEP THEREOF IN TERMS OF.

AND I MEAN, WE DO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL IN TERMS OF THIS THING LOCKED OR HOW THAT EMERGENCY CONDITION RELEASES.

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I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO WORK ON THAT.

OK? AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE FENCING MATERIALS, I GUESS, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING HERE FOR THAT OR A MAP OR WHERE THE WATER LINE WAS OR WHATEVER YOU WERE REFERENCING THERE? YEAH.

YEAH, I MEAN, THE FENCING MATERIALS WAS COVERED AND MY APOLOGIES, I DIDN'T BRING A LOT OF THE MATERIAL FROM THE SECOND SESSION, BUT WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BULKIER.

IT'S NOT YOUR STANDARD RESIDENTIAL TYPE FENCE AND IT IS MADE OUT OF WOOD.

BUT WE CAN HAVE COLUMNS BEEFING IT UP AND THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON EIGHT FEET, I MEAN, WE COULD GO HIGHER.

I THINK THAT WAS A CITY MAX HEIGHT FOR A FENCE.

AND WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE OBVIOUSLY THE HEIGHT IN THE SIGHTLINES BY, YOU KNOW, THE TREES UP ON THE BERM.

SO AND NOW WITH THE DECREASED BUILDING HEIGHT, THE SITE LINE FROM BACK HERE ON THE NORTH END, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CHALLENGING TO SEE THAT BUILDING.

OK, I GUESS THAT'S AN ITEM, I GUESS I'D SAY, TO DO SOME MORE HOMEWORK ON AND POTENTIALLY GET SOME RESIDENT FEEDBACK ON, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON HOW THIS GOES TONIGHT OR NOT IN TERMS OF GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THEM AND HOW YOU CAN APPROACH THAT THAT BETTER.

YEAH, I DID ISSUE SOME MORE LETTERS.

I DID GET A WE DID TRADE SOME EMAILS.

THE FENCE TYPE WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP AS A AS A CONCERN.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS.

PLEASE DO.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST TALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BETTER FROM YOU IN TERMS OF THE POTENTIAL USE INSIDE OF THESE BUILDINGS.

WHAT WILL BE GOING ON, YOU KNOW, DISTRIBUTION TYPE USERS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, LIKE MANUFACTURING AND THE HOURS AS WELL.

YEAH, I MEAN, CERTAINLY WE DON'T HAVE TENANTS COMMITTED AT THIS POINT, UM, A WIDE RANGE OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR TENANTS.

BUT AGAIN, WITH THE LOWER CLEAR HEIGHT, THESE AREN'T BIG VOLUME THROUGHPUT TYPE TENANTS, BUT THEY'RE MORE LIKE YOUR HVAC PLUMBING DISTRIBUTOR THAT COULD MAYBE HAVE A SMALLER SHOWROOM IN THE FRONT.

I MEAN, SLEEP NUMBER WAS AN EXAMPLE I USED LAST TIME, THEY HAVE MATTRESS STORAGE.

IN TERMS OF HOURS, THE BULK OF IT'S DURING THE DAY WE IT'S HARD TO CONFIRM OR COMMENT TO WHAT HOURS SOME OF THE DELIVERIES WOULD BE, BUT THE BULK IS CERTAINLY DURING REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS.

OK, OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I HAD ONE QUESTION I SEE THAT SAYS CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE A YEAR AND A HALF IS SO YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD ALL THE BUILDINGS AT ONE TIME.

YES, OK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OH, WE HAVE ONE HERE? GOOD.

IF WE NEED YOU BACK, WE WILL BRING YOU BACK.

OK, I GUESS DELIBERATION TIMES.

ANYBODY WANT TO JUMP OUT THERE OR.

OR NO, SIR.

SIR, I'M SORRY, WE CAN'T COMMENT FROM THE GALLERY, TREAT, IT LIKE PLEASE, PLEASE JUST TREAT IT LIKE A COURTROOM.

SIR, SIR, PLEASE, I'M ASKING YOU, PLEASE, TO MAINTAIN SOME DECORUM.

NO COMMENTING FROM THE GALLERY.

I DID THE BEST I COULD, SIR.

I WROTE THEM ALL DOWN.

WELL, WE'LL SEE.

WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES TONIGHT WITH THE DELIBERATION AND DEPENDING ON HOW IT GOES, OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE IS A NEXT LEVEL, YOU CAN SUBMIT ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AGAIN.

YOU CAN ASK FOR ANY OTHER HELP ON ITEMS. BUT PLEASE, I'M ASKING YOU TO MAINTAIN SOME DECORUM HERE.

SO WHO WANTS TO, ANYBODY WANT TO COMMENT FIRST OR DELIBERATE FIRST, TO GO OUT THERE? WELL, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IS THE BIGGEST STUMBLING POINT HERE.

I MEAN, I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH DETERMINED THAT THE EMERGENCY EXIT IS AN EMERGENCY EXIT.

IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A DRIVE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A THROUGH.

IT'S SPECIFICALLY IF EMERGENCY NEED TO GET THERE, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON BUT THE TRAIN TRACKS OR WHATEVER.

SO IT'S AN EMERGENCY EXIT AND THAT'S ALL IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE WHEN THE CITY FINALLY GETS THEIR NEW FACILITY BUILT THERE, THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL ROUTE THAT CAN KEEP IT AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THINK THAT THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB ON AS FAR AS LOWERING HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, MOVING THE BUILDING FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCES.

AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM WIPING OUT THE TREES HERE, BUT THEY'RE ADDING MANY MORE TREES THAT ARE ARE GOING TO BE IN YOUR SIGHTLINE RATHER THAN JUST

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HAVING THE OPEN FIELD OUT HERE.

SO I KNOW NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR THAT, I DON'T WANT TREES CUT DOWN IN MY BACKYARD AND IT SEEMS THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS ACCEPTABLE OF THE THREE OR THE FOUR WAY STOP.

SO I THINK THAT THOSE DETAILS NEED TO BE WORKED OUT, SO.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO LEAD OFF? YOU WANT ME TO GO OR? I'LL GO NEXT.

OK, SO, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST TOUGH CASES THAT WE'VE COME ACROSS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON P AND Z.

I MEAN, I HATE TO SEE INDUSTRIAL BACK UP TO RESIDENTIAL.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEVER REALLY WANT TO SEE.

AND I DON'T THINK I FEEL BAD FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT IT IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL.

SO WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT IF THEY DON'T REQUEST ANY VARIANCES, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GET APPROVAL.

BUT THEY ARE STILL REQUESTING A VARIANCE.

AND AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE CONTINUED TO DO TO MODIFY IT, I THINK THEY'VE DONE SOME AMAZING AND EXCELLENT THINGS.

THEY'VE PUT OUT A LOT OF EFFORT.

AND I FEEL TERRIBLE THAT THIS IS SUCH A TRICKY TRACT.

BUT I JUST CAN'T GET PAST THE SAFETY ISSUES WITH MUSTANG COURT, WITH THE THE LARGER TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT.

I KNOW A THREE WAY STOP.

MIGHT MAKE ME FEEL A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE, BUT I JUST THINK THERE'S I CAN'T GET PAST A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS DENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCE, I THINK I JUST CAN'T GET COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

COMMISSIONER REYNOLDS? YEAH.

I STRUGGLE WITH THIS.

THIS PARTICULAR CASE KEEPS YOU UP AT NIGHT.

I MEAN, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME WE'VE SEEN IT, OF COURSE.

AND WE WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT.

AND OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S NO EASY ANSWER.

I'M SENSITIVE TO THE THE RESIDENTS BEHIND THIS, ALTHOUGH I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO BE ULTRA SENSITIVE TO THOSE THINGS.

AND WHILE THEY'RE REMOVING TREES, THEY'RE ADDING, YOU KNOW, WAS OVER 80 MORE THAN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO.

UM, I DID LIKE THE DEVELOPER WAS OPEN TO RAISING THE FENCE EVEN HIGHER.

UM, SO I'D BE OPEN TO HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM FROM OTHERS LIKE HOW HIGH THAT SHOULD BE.

ALSO KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE CENTRAL MARKET ASKED FOR A REALLY HIGH FENCE AND THEN THEY REGRETTED IT LATER.

SO I THINK IT CAN CUT BOTH WAYS.

WOULD YOU RATHER LOOK AT A BIG WALL OR LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, EIGHT FEET THAT HAS TREES FLOWING OVER IT? RIGHT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

UM, THE OTHER THING I ALSO KEEP IN MIND IS MY COMMUTE TO WORK IS DOWN CONTINENTAL TO KIMBALL ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND UP TO 121 AND INTO DALLAS.

AND SO I PASS THAT HERITAGE BUSINESS PARK EVERY DAY GOING AND COMING.

AND IN MY VIEW, FROM A TENANT MIXED STANDPOINT, THIS IS GOING TO BEHAVE A LOT LIKE THAT PARK.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SAT BEHIND AN 18 WHEELER AT THAT LIGHT GOING ACROSS THAT COMMUTER RAIL, OBVIOUSLY, THERE WILL BE I'M NOT SAYING THERE WON'T BE ANY TRAFFIC, BUT I DO THINK, LOOK, YOU KNOW, IF THIS ENDS UP GOING THE DEVELOPERS ROUTE AND THIS COMES TO FRUITION, I ACTUALLY THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO STRUGGLE TO LEASE IT SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

AND I THINK IT'LL BE A LOW JUST AN OPINION, BUT A LOW TRAFFICKED TYPE OF TENANT SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THAT INTERSECTION, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL GOING TO SEE THESE TENANTS ARE GOING TO SEE THE SAME ISSUE THAT ALL OF YOU ARE SEEING.

SO I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SHOWROOMYISH AND LIKE THE HVAC GUYS LIKE A GOOD MAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, WHAT ELSE DO I WANT TO SAY HERE? I MENTIONED HERITAGE PARK, SO ALL UP AND DOWN.

KIMBALL AND NOLEN IS A SIMILAR USED TO THIS, BUT.

ANYWAY, I GUESS JUST TO RESTATE THAT THIS EMERGENCY ACCESS WON'T BE USED FOR CONSTRUCTION TRUCK TRAFFIC.

ANYWAY, SO I'M KIND OF OPEN TO A FENCE, A HIGHER FENCE AND THE THREE WAY STOP, BECAUSE I THINK THAT COULD HELP THE TRAFFIC SITUATION AS WELL.

AND I GUESS, DENNIS, DO YOU MIND PUTTING UP THE SLIDE AGAIN ON VARIANCE APPROVAL CRITERIA? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I GUESS I SHARE ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WERE NOTED IN PUBLIC

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HEARING.

YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT COMMISSIONER PHALEN DID A GOOD JOB OF SUMMARIZING THEM AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHERE I KEEP COMING BACK TO IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE REALLY HERE TO DO TONIGHT? AND IT'S YOU KNOW, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE THAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR IT.

IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING THAT IT HAS ON IT.

IT IS BEING PRESENTED CONSISTENT WITH OUR CITY ORDINANCES, IN SOME CASES BEYOND CITY ORDINANCES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE VARIANCE.

AND THAT'S THE TREE PRESERVATION.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, THE TREE PRESERVATION AREA WAS ADJACENT TO THAT RESIDENTIAL.

TO ME, THAT WOULD BE AN EASIER THING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND IN TERMS OF CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, HELPING PRESERVE THOSE TREES, BUILD UP THAT BUFFER EVEN MORE, WHICH COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCIL MIGHT MIGHT LOOK AT.

I CAN GET MY ARMS AROUND THAT.

BUT THOSE TREES ARE OVER BY, YOU KNOW, TANK FARM.

SO I'M STRUGGLING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, PRESERVING THOSE TREES OVER BY THE TANKS REALLY DOES.

AND BARRING THAT, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THIS CRITERIA, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TO EVALUATE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT POINT THAT WAS MADE DOWN HERE.

IF THIS SITE PLAN WAS IN FRONT OF US WITHOUT ANY VARIANCES, IT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.

YOU KNOW, IT ALREADY HAS ZONING ALREADY HAS LAND USE.

IT'S ALREADY CONSISTENT WITH ORDINANCES.

SO IT'S REALLY COMING BACK TO THIS TREE ORDINANCE.

AND GIVEN THAT THAT AREA IS NOT ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL, FEELS LIKE THEY THEY'VE TRIED SEVERAL VERSIONS TO TO ADD THINGS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ORDINANCES THERE.

THE OTHER ADJACENT USES THAT ARE AROUND IT.

YOU KNOW, I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT WITH SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU NOTED IN TERMS OF SPEAKING WITH THE RESIDENTS, AGAIN, ABOUT THE BUFFER AREA, ABOUT THE FENCING MATERIALS AND CONDITIONING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF AND WHEN THAT, I GUESS, WESTERN EMERGENCY ENTRANCE COMES TO PASS, WHICH IT'S HELPFUL THAT THE CITY CONTROLS THE LAND THAT THE NORTHERN ONE IS SHUT PERMANENTLY.

SO CONDITIONING IT ON THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHAT I COULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF.

SO I KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR DELIBERATIONS WE WANT TO MAKE OTHERWISE, DR.

SPRINGER, IT MAY BE UP TO YOU TO TRY TO CRAFT A MOTION HERE IF YOU DO SO.

WELL, I CAN CERTAINLY GIVE IT A SHOT.

WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS.

YOU GUYS MAY HAVE TO AMEND IT A LITTLE BIT FOR ME.

WE'LL SEE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CASE ZA 12-0039 REFERENCING STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 14TH OF 2021 AND ALSO REFERENCING SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO, DATED MAY THE 14TH OF 2021, GRANTING THE VARIANCE FOR THE TREE PRESERVATION AND NOTING THE WILLINGNESS OF THE APPLICANT TO REVIEW A FOUR, A THREE WAY STOP WHICHEVER WAS THE MOST ACCEPTABLE FOR THE TRAFFIC FLOW.

THE WILLINGNESS TO DISCUSS, THE APPLICANTS WILLING TO DISCUSS WITH THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE BUFFER YARDS ADJOINING THEIR RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE FENCE HEIGHT AND MATERIAL, THE EMERGENCY GATE HEIGHT AND MATERIAL AND.

I BELIEVE THAT'S I BELIEVE THAT'S.

THE OTHER ONE IN TERMS OF THE WESTERN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT IS ADDED THAT THE NORTHERN ONE IS.

OK, AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE WESTERN EMERGENCY ACCESS IS ADDED AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE NORTHERN EMERGENCY EXIT GOING THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL AREA WILL BE CLOSED PERMANENTLY.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

OK, GO AND VOTE, PLEASE.

PASSES THREE TO ONE, THREE TO ONE RECOMMENDATION, AND WHAT THAT MEANS KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS WITH US THIS EVENING.

WELL, THREE REALLY, GIVEN THAT ONE WAS RECUSING HIMSELF, THE EARLIEST THAT THIS APPLICATION COULD BE BROUGHT TO CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE ON JUNE 1ST.

I BELIEVE IT WOULD ONLY REQUIRE ONE MEETING BECAUSE IT'S A SITE PLAN REQUEST.

AND AGAIN, EITHER AFTER THIS MEETING OR TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK, WHENEVER YOU LIKE, CITY STAFF IS HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION ON THE CASE.

YOU CAN SUBMIT ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY DO AS THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL.

SO HOPEFULLY THERE'S A NUMBER OF AVENUES OPEN TO YOU.

AND AGAIN, THESE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED.

SO YOU CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND WATCH THIS ONE OR THE PREVIOUS TWO AS WELL.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

AND NOW WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS ITEM

[9. Ordinance No. 1242, (CP21-0001), adopting the City of Southlake Parks, Recreation & Open Space Master Plan, an element of the Southlake 2035 Comprehensive Plan. PUBLIC HEARING]

NUMBER NINE.

STAFF, THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 1242, CP 21-001, ADOPTING THE CITY OF

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SOUTHLAKE PARKS RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN.

AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE OH, I THOUGHT MAYBE WE MIGHT HAVE MR. [INAUDIBLE] WITH US, BUT YOU'RE THE LUCKY ONE, SO.

YES, SIR.

IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THIS PLAN TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING.

THE PARKS RECREATION OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN IS AS INDICATED BY THE CHAIRMAN.

SO JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND ON THIS PLAN.

AND IT'S CERTAINLY WORTH MENTIONING THAT THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC CERTAINLY IMPACTED THE TIMELINE FOR THIS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SOUTHLAKE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD WAS APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL TO TO DEVELOP THIS PLAN BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2019, GOT OFF TO A GREAT START, THEN THE PANDEMIC.

AND THEN BASICALLY FOR SIX MONTHS WE WEREN'T HAVING MEETINGS.

SO WE STARTED IT.

WE PICKED THAT BACK UP AND KIND OF HERE WE ARE, MADE THE PARKS BOARD BASICALLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PLAN.

SO HERE WE ARE TONIGHT AT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THEN ULTIMATELY WITH COUNCIL.

SO JUST AS A QUICK KIND OF NOTE.

FROM A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PARKS PLAN DOES IS IT OUTLINES THE FUTURE CAPITAL FUNDING REQUESTS AND EXPENDITURES THAT WILL BE REQUESTED AT THE STAFF LEVEL, KIND OF DRIVE WORK PLANS AND BUSINESS PLANS AND SO FORTH.

AND SO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN IS KIND OF A VERY VISIBLE PLAN IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT REALLY KIND OF IS REFLECTED BASED ON WHAT IS IN THIS DOCUMENT, NOT TOO DISSIMILAR FROM THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN.

AND SO JUST A QUICK BLURB, IF YOU WILL, ON WHAT COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING IS.

OUR CHARTER REQUIRES THAT CERTAIN ELEMENTS ARE UPDATED EVERY FOUR YEARS.

THE LAST TIME THE PARKS PLAN WAS AMENDED WAS 2018.

AND SO THIS IS A HOLISTIC KIND OF REVIEW OF THE ENTIRE PLAN.

AND SO WE'RE WITHIN THAT FOUR YEAR POINT.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK, QUICK ITEMS, AGAIN, BETWEEN THE START OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THEN WHERE WE ARE TODAY, 15 PARKS BOARD MEETINGS.

WE MET WITH THE SOUTHLAKE YOUTH ACTION COMMISSION, SENIOR ADVISORY COUNCIL, SOUTHLAKE KIDS INTERESTED IN LEADERSHIP TWICE.

AND THEN WE TOOK IT TO THE CARROLL ISD SCHOOL HEALTH ADVISORY COUNCIL JUST TO ENSURE THAT THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL IN THAT SYNERGISTIC RELATIONSHIP KIND OF CONTINUES.

AND, YOU KNOW, TAKING IT TO SCALE AND SYAC AND THE SENIOR ADVISORY COUNCIL, THOSE WERE THINGS RECOMMENDED ON OTHER MASTERPLAN ELEMENTS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE AN AGE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.

AND WITH PARKS, THAT'S CERTAINLY AN ELEMENT OF YOUR ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SUCH.

SO HERE WE ARE THIS EVENING AGAIN, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THEN LOOK TO HAVE FIRST READING JUNE 1ST, SECOND READING THE 15TH, AND THEN I'LL KIND OF GET INTO WE'RE DOING A SPIN TOWN HALL FORUM A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER.

IT'LL BE IT'LL BE NEXT WEEK WITH AN OPEN HOUSE FOR THIS PLAN ON TUESDAY.

SO JUST QUICKLY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC PARK AREAS IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF PRIVATE PARK AREA.

SO JUST AS A QUICK CLARIFICATION, YOU KNOW, THIS PLAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC PARKS AND OPEN SPACES.

WE DON'T GET INTO THE THE PRIVATE PARK SPACES THAT MIGHT BE IN SUBDIVISIONS.

THERE ARE SOME WHERE IT CAN GET A LITTLE BIT TRICKY, WHERE THE CITY MIGHT HAVE A PARK DEDICATED TO THEM IN A SUBDIVISION OR SOMEWHERE.

YOU KIND OF HAVE A SPLIT OF A PUBLIC/ PRIVATE PARK DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE AT.

WINDING CREEK IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.

SO WE LOOKED AT WINDING CREEK PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT ONLY THE PORTION OF IT THAT WAS PUBLIC AND OF COURSE, A NUMBER OF TOWN SQUARE PARKS, A NUMBER OF PARKS WITHIN [INAUDIBLE].

AND THEN THERE YOU CAN SEE THE LEASE AREA FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

THAT'S FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN ACRES THAT WE RELEASED FROM THEM.

SO KIND OF THE OVERVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION, I'M REALLY GOING TO FOCUS MORE ON THE PROCESS.

THERE'S A TON OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS PLAN AND I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION ALL HAD A COPY OF THAT.

AND I'M HAPPY TO DIG IN TO ANY SPECIFICITIES THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO, BUT I THOUGHT KIND OF FOCUSING ON THE PROCESS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO START.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING WHEN WE KICKED THIS PLAN ELEMENT OFF, IT WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT THE EXISTING PLAN ELEMENTS THAT WE HAD ADOPTED.

SO THE PREVIOUS PARK'S MASTER PLAN, AS I'D MENTIONED, HEALTH AND WELLNESS, HOW OUR LAND USE PLAN FITS INTO THIS.

AND THEN EVEN SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE PUBLIC ART AND YOUTH, HOW THOSE ADOPTED ELEMENTS KIND OF SPEAK TO THE FUTURE OF OUR PARK SYSTEM.

KIND OF DID, YOU KNOW, INVENTORY NEEDS ASSESSMENT, OPEN SPACE, GOT AN IDEA OF THE DIRECTION THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO GO FROM THINGS LIKE A SURVEY WHICH WE'LL GET INTO AND OTHER VARIOUS ELEMENTS, OTHER DRIVING KIND OF PRINCIPLES FOR THIS PLAN.

AND ONE OF THE KEY, IF I WERE TO BOIL THIS PLAN DOWN INTO SOME KEY WORDS AND, YOU

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KNOW, LOOKING AT THE CITIZEN SATISFACTION SURVEY FROM 2019, CONNECTIVITY IS A REALLY BIG DEAL IN THE WAY THAT THE CITY PRIORITIZES SEGMENTS AND SIDEWALK SEGMENTS.

THIS IS REALLY BASED ON PROXIMITY TO PARKS AND SCHOOLS.

SO THIS WAS KIND OF AN INTERESTING MAP THAT WE HAD PUT TOGETHER.

AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT IS DISTANCE TO PUBLIC PARKS WITH A BUFFER OF A HALF A MILE.

AND THEN ON THE RIGHT, YOU'VE GOT PRIVATE PARK AREAS.

AND THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE THIS HALF A MILE IS THERE'S A STANDARD.

FOR PEOPLE TO BE WITHIN A 10 MINUTE WALK TO A PARK, AND SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED AT AND WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO.

SO WHERE YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE YELLOW AREAS ON THE LEFT, WE WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THOSE AREAS FOR FUTURE PARK SPACE.

SO, AGAIN, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WAS A PRETTY BIG PART OF THIS PLANNING EFFORT, AS I'D MENTIONED, THE 20 DIFFERENT BOARD MEETINGS OR COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT WE'D GONE TO.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE SOME PICTURES THERE, SKIL PARK'S BOARD, SOUTHLAKE YOUTH ACTION COUNCIL.

AND THEN AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE COVID PANDEMIC, THINGS GOT A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAD TO GET CREATIVE.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IMAGE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT.

WE HAD A SECOND MEETING WITH SKIL OVER WEBEX AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK IN THAT WAY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF THINGS WERE DONE FOR THIS, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THERE'S AN EXAMPLE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THE SIGNS THERE SAY NOTICE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION.

WE WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC HAD THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT PARTS WERE BEING DISCUSSED AND WHEN AND HOW THEY COULD ENGAGE IN THAT PROCESS.

SO WE WOULD PUT SIGNS OUT AROUND THE PARK AREAS THAT WERE BEING DISCUSSED.

AGAIN, MEETINGS WERE ALL POSTED OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

WE HAD THE OCCASIONAL ARTICLE THAT WOULD GO OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GET INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING EFFORT? AND THEN, OF COURSE, SOME EVENT SIGNS PLACED AROUND THE CITY WITH THE LINK TO THE THE PARKS WEB PAGE.

THAT WAS SORT OF THE LANDING PAGE, ESSENTIALLY FOR ALL UPDATES REGARDING THIS PLAN.

AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT.

YOU CAN SEE WE DEVELOPED A FORUM WHERE PEOPLE COULD SUBMIT THEIR FEEDBACK ON THIS PLAN DIRECTLY TO STAFF, AND WE WOULD MAKE SURE TO GET THAT PASSED RIGHT BACK OVER TO THE PARKS BOARD AND SO THAT THEY COULD DELIBERATE BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY RECEIVED.

JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THE SORT OF FUN THINGS THAT THAT WE DID, AGAIN WITH HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, YOU'VE GOT TO KIND OF GET A LITTLE BIT CREATIVE OR YOU WANT TO GET CREATIVE ABOUT HOW YOU ENGAGE WITH THEM.

I MEAN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN HOW YOU WOULD ENGAGE THE SENIOR ADVISORY COUNCIL.

MAYBE IT SHOULDN'T BE, BUT AT LEAST THAT WAS OUR APPROACH.

AND SO WE DID SOME KIND OF HANDS-ON TABLETOP TYPE ACTIVITIES WHERE WE HAD GROUPS, YOU KNOW, DESIGN A PERFECT ACTIVE PARK, A PERFECT PASSIVE PARK, DIGGING INTO THE SURVEY RESULTS THAT AGAIN IN THE LATER SLIDE WILL KIND OF SPEAK TO YOU.

BUT HAD THE THE YOUTH GROUPS KIND OF DIG IN A BIT MORE AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK TO SOME OF THE SURVEY QUESTIONS.

AND THEN MAYBE MOST INTERESTINGLY, ON THE FAR RIGHT, WE PROVIDED A COUPLE PAGE SYLLABUS, IF YOU WILL, OR SOME KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF A PROJECT FOR THE SKIL GROUP.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN HIGH SCHOOL KIDS DO SUCH IMPRESSIVE WORK, BUT THAT IMAGE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT.

SOMEBODY LITERALLY SKETCHED OUT THIS PUBLIC ART FEATURE FOR NORTH PARK.

AND THEN THEY PUT IT IN AUTOCAD AND THERE'S LIKE A VIDEO TO GO ALONG WITH IT FOR THIS POTENTIAL MURAL AND THIS FEATURE.

AND WHERE THIS COMES FROM IS THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION IN THE PUBLIC ARTS MASTER PLAN ABOUT LOOKING TO INCORPORATE ART INTO NORTH PARK AND ART INTO BOB JONES PARK AND TO SOUTHLAKE SPORTS COMPLEX.

AND SO WE ASKED THE YOUTH KIDS, WE SAID, HEY, WHAT WOULD YOUR PROPOSALS BE IF YOU HAD YOUR DRUTHERS AND YOU COULD KIND OF GUIDE THIS PROCESS? AND SO, AGAIN, THE BOTTOM RIGHT WAS A VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE IMAGE.

ALL THE PRESENTATIONS WERE VERY INTERESTING.

AND THEN JUST ABOVE THAT, YOU SEE THERE WERE SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT HAVING INSPIRATIONAL CROSSWALK MESSAGES INTO SOUTHLAKE SPORTS COMPLEX AND LIFE SIZED CHESSBOARDS.

SO VERY, VERY UNIQUE FEEDBACK FROM THE YOUTH GROUPS.

AGAIN, I REFERENCED THE SURVEY.

WE GOT 105 TOTAL RESPONSES AND WE CUT THE DATA IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.

AGAIN, THE YOUTH, THE TWO YOUTH GROUPS, WE SEPARATE AND PARSED THOSE OUT AND THEN CITYWIDE, WE HAD 77 RESPONSES.

SO THIS SURVEY WAS OPEN FROM FEBRUARY 7TH TO FEBRUARY 28TH OF 2020, WHICH IS ABOUT WHEN THINGS WERE STARTING TO GET KIND OF STRANGE IN THE WORLD, BUT THAT'S WHEN THE SURVEY WAS OPEN.

WE GOT THOSE RESULTS, A BUNCH OF VERBATIM COMMENTS BECAUSE AGAIN EVERY SURVEY QUESTION WAS OPEN ENDED AND WE PROVIDED THOSE COMMENTS RIGHT BACK TO THE PARK'S BOARD.

AND SO THERE YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE THE FIVE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.

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AND WE'VE USED THIS APPROACH AND THIS METHOD FOR A FEW PLAN ELEMENTS IN A ROW NOW.

SO FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS MASTER PLAN FOR THE THE YOUTH MASTER PLAN, KIND OF ASKING THESE OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS AND THEN DIGESTING THE FEEDBACK AND PRODUCING.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A COUPLE OF WORD CLOUDS, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN SEE FOR THE FIRST ONE WAS THE PRIMARY REASON THAT YOU USE PARKS, YOU CAN SEE WALKING, PLAYGROUND, EXERCISE, RECREATION, NOTHING TOO SURPRISING THERE.

BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOKE UP TOMORROW, SPEAKING OF QUESTION FIVE AND YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING YOU WOULD HOPED WERE IN PLACE REGARDING PARKS, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? AND CAN YOU SEE PROGRAMING TRAILS, CONNECTIVITY, SIDEWALKS, BIKES.

AND SO KIND OF SOME OF THE GUIDING FORCES THAT THAT DROVE THE PLANNING EFFORT FOR THE PARKS BOARD.

I REFERENCED THE PARKS WEB PAGE.

SO THIS IS KIND OF LIKE I SAID, WHERE WE WOULD POST AGENDAS AND INFORMATION ABOUT THE PARKS THAT WERE TO BE DISCUSSED AND WHEN THEY WOULD BE DISCUSSED AND THEY WOULD KIND OF SHIFT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON COVID AND VARIOUS THINGS THERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER INCORPORATING THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, WE START TO DEVELOP THE CONCEPT PLANS.

AND SO WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE IS SITTING DOWN WITH THE PARKS BOARD WITH MARKERS AND LITERALLY MARKING UP, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTS OF AERIALS OF PARKS IN SOME CASES.

SO DEVELOPING KIND OF THESE CONCEPTS AND, YOU KNOW, THEN PUTTING RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO WITH THOSE CONCEPT PLANS, AND SO THE CONCEPTS ARE KIND OF HIGH LEVEL AND THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS THEMSELVES, THAT'S WE'RE GOING INTO KIND OF THE DETAIL, WHETHER IT BE POLICY OR AN AMENITY, TO ADD WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE PROCESS IF YOU WERE TO CONDENSE THOSE THAT YEAR AND A HALF DOWN.

SO, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALL THE IMPLEMENTATION METRICS.

IT WOULD TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO DO SO.

I'M HAPPY TO DIG IN AS THE BOARD WOULD LIKE, BUT KIND OF TO BOIL DOWN THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO YOU HAVE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH ARE KIND OF MORE GLOBAL.

AND YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES HERE ON THIS SLIDE HERE.

SO PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO HOAS REGARDING MAINTENANCE OF DEDICATED PUBLIC PARKS, PARKLAND MAINTAINED BY HOAS.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AS WE HAD THESE MEETINGS IS PEOPLE WOULD ATTEND AND THEY'D SAY, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT MY OBLIGATION IS REGARDING PARK MAINTENANCE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE GROUP THE COMMITTEE STAFF DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE ON THE FRONT END BETTER PROVIDE INFORMATION TO US ABOUT WHAT THEIR MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS ARE? SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE OF A POLICY KIND OF RECOMMENDATION, NOT GERMANE TO ANY ANY ONE PARK, THEN YOU YOU CAN SEE CAPITAL PARKS PROJECT RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I'LL GET INTO THE FORCED RANKING SURVEY IN A MOMENT.

BUT WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS ONCE WE HAD VETTED THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE HAD THE PARKS BOARD DO A FORCED RANKING EXERCISE WHERE THEY PUT THE PARK PACKAGES IN ORDER BASED ON THEIR PRIORITIES.

SO FROM HIGHEST NUMBER ONE TO THE LOWEST, WHICH WAS NUMBER 14, AND NOT EVERY PARK IN THE SYSTEM HAD A CAPITAL LEVEL PROJECT.

AND SO WHEN YOU THINK CAPITAL, YOU THINK OF SOMETHING WITH A LONG LIFESPAN THAT HAS A TWENTY THOUSAND, FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR PLUS PRICE TAG ON IT.

AND SO THE PARKS BOARD RANKED THOSE PARKS AND PUT THOSE INTO AN ORDER WHICH I'LL SHOW THEIR RANKING PRIORITY NEXT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE NONCAPITAL PARKS PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SMALLER, MAYBE MORE POCKET PARK AREAS WHERE MAYBE THE RECOMMENDATION MIGHT BE JUST TO ADD A WATER BOTTLE REFILL STATION.

LIKE, THAT'S NOT REALLY A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT CAN IMPLEMENT AS THEIR WORK PLAN ALLOWS AND BUDGET ALLOWS.

SO THIS IS THE FORCED RANKING SURVEY RESULTS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PARK'S BOARD RANKED THE SOUTHLAKE SPORTS COMPLEX NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN AGAIN, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE NEXT BOB JONES PARK AND SO FORTH, AND REALLY SHOULD HAVE MAYBE NOTED THIS EARLIER.

BUT IN PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE PARK'S PLAN, IT'S BEEN PARKS, RECREATION, OPEN SPACE AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES.

AND SO WE HAVE SEPARATED THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES PIECE FROM THE PARKS PIECE FOR THIS EFFORT.

PART OF THAT BEING BECAUSE AS THE CITY HAS GROWN, WE HAVE NEW FACILITIES, MORE FACILITIES.

WE THINK THAT SHOULD REALLY KIND OF STAND ON ITS OWN AS A SEPARATE PLAN DOCUMENT.

AND SO BOB JONES PARK, WE CONSIDERED AND CONTEMPLATED AS PART OF THIS EFFORT, BUT WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT THE NATURE CENTER AND PRESERVE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS AS PART OF THE FACILITY'S PLAN AT ANOTHER

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TIME AS A SEPARATE STAND ALONE PLAN ELEMENT.

SO THEN YOU CAN SEE THE FOREST RANKING SURVEY RESULTS FOR VARIOUS AMENITIES.

SO PICKLEBALL CONTINUALLY WOULD COME UP AS AN AMENITY IN PARKS THAT THE RESIDENTS WANT.

SO THERE'S CURRENTLY SOME PICKLEBALL COURTS.

IS THAT A PRODUCT OF OUR DEMOGRAPHICS AGING HERE? A LITTLE BIT.

I MEAN, THIS WOULD COME UP 20 YEARS AGO, MOST LIKELY NOT TO SPEAKERS].

BUT IT'S A VERY IT'S A GROWING SPORT AND A LOT OF DEMAND THROUGH THE CITY.

FROM THE YOUTH OF THE COMMUNITY.