Link

Social

Embed

Disable autoplay on embedded content?

Download

Download
Download Transcript

>> ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO THE THURSDAY NIGHT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

[00:00:07]

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER NOW AT THIS TIME.

[NOISE] WE CAN START OUT BY REVIEW OF THE PAST OF MINUTES OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.

[CONSENT AGENDA:]

IF ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES OR COMMENTS ON THOSE? NO? NONE. ALL RIGHT.

THEN IN THAT CASE, THEN WE'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THAT.

>> GOOD EVENING, I'LL MAKE MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON MAY 20TH, 2021.

[BACKGROUND]

>> SECOND.

>> [NOISE] WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

EVERYBODY, CAST YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.

[NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] THAT PASSES 5-0.

[BACKGROUND] NUMBER 6.

OKAY. HANG ON ONE SECOND HERE, WE GOT SOME BEHIND THE SCENES PAPER WORK WE GET GOING ON HERE.

HANG ON ONE SECOND. WAS FIVE GOING TO BE THE TABLED INTO IT? [BACKGROUND] OKAY.

THAT'S RIGHT. ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA,

[6. Table: Resolution No. 21-020, (ZA21-0040), Specific Use Permit for a Mass Gathering Event for Diwalifest]

ITEM NUMBER 6 HAS BEEN TABLED UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

>> TABLE TO THE AUGUST 5TH REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND PUBLIC CARRYING ON THIS ITEM WOULD BE HELD AT THAT TIME.

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, SIR.

[BACKGROUND] YEAH.

WE NEED A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 6.

>> I MOVE THAT WE, WELL, RELATIVE TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-020ZH21-0040, THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR MASS GATHERING EVENT FOR DIWALI FEST.

WE MOVE THAT WE TABLE THAT UNTIL THE AUGUST 5TH, 2021 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> EVERYBODY, CAST YOUR VOTES, PLEASE.

THAT PASSES 5-0.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[7. Consider: Ordinance No. 480-782 (ZA21-0031), Zoning Change and Concept/Site Plan for XO Marriage Center]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA NOW.

ITEM NUMBER 7.

THAT'LL BE ZONING CHANGE IN CONCEPTS LIKE PLAN FOR XO MARRIAGE CENTER.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE CONCEPT, SITE PLAN FOR PORTION OF THE GATEWAY CHURCH CAMPUS.

THIS CHANGE PROPOSES A 32,190 SQUARE FOOT THREE-STOREY OFFICE BUILDING FOR XO MARRIAGE.

IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE ASSEMBLY STUDIO USES AND PRAYER TYPE CENTER CURRENTLY PERMITTED UNDER THAT ZONING.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE XO MARRIAGE FACILITY.

THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THAT IS SEMI-PUBLIC.

THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS NON-RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

AERIAL PHOTO SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE CURRENT CAMPUS.

THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING IN PLACE THAT SHOWS THE PROPOSED USES PERMITTED ON SEVERAL PARCELS IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE CAMPUS.

YOU MAY NOTE SOME OF THESE PARCELS HAVE BEEN REZONED AND SECEDED FROM THE CURRENT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY, PARCEL D AND F. PARCEL D WAS REZONED AND DEVELOPED TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE [INAUDIBLE] GLENN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

PARCEL F WAS REZONED AND COMBINED WITHIN THE CARROLL MIDDLE SCHOOL LOCATED ON THAT ADJOINING TRACT, AND THEN PARCEL G WAS REZONED SP1 FOR THE WESTERN HOTEL.

PARCEL B AND E ARE SPECIFIC TO THE DEVELOPED GATEWAY CHURCH CAMPUS AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE A PORTION OF THE CONCEPT PLAN UNDER THAT PARCEL B AND

[00:05:04]

E. THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN APPROVED UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING.

THIS PARTICULAR AREA WAS SPECIFICALLY SET ASIDE FOR A PRAYER CENTER.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED REVISION TO THAT CONCEPT PLAN AND THE PURPOSE FOR THE ZONING CHANGE.

THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THIS UNDER ONE OF THE PERMITTED DISTRICTS ALLOWED UNDER THAT PARCEL B UNDER THE O2 OFFICE CATEGORY, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR A MULTI- STORY, PRIMARILY OFFICE-TYPE FACILITY.

THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING, AND ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE OF THAT BUILDING.

UNDER THE CURRENTLY APPROVED PERMITTED USES PARCEL B AND A, ALLOW FOR LEMONADE CS DISTRICT USES, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT RATHER THAN SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

IT ALSO INCLUDED THE ABILITY TO HAVE MULTI-LEVEL PARKING GARAGE, BOOKSTORE, DAYCARE, COFFEE SHOP, RESTAURANT, RECORDING STUDIO, PRODUCTION STUDIO, TELEVISION STUDIO, ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES CENTER AS PERMITTED ACCESSORIES UNDER THE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION USE.

THE PARCEL B AND A ALSO INCLUDE O-1, O-2 OFFICE CATEGORIES, AS WELL AS C2, C3, B1, AND HC CATEGORIES.

THE PROPOSED REVISION WOULD ALLOW FOR THE PROPERTY TO DEVELOP UNDER THE O-2 DISTRICT AND WOULD INCLUDE PERMITTED USES OF A UP TO 150 SEAT FILM STUDIO, A PODCAST STUDIO, AND ASSEMBLY AND GATHERING AREAS.

WITH REGARDS TO UNDERLYING REGULATIONS AND BOTH THE USE CHANGE AND THE REGULATIONS WERE SPECIFIC TO WHAT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE IDENTIFIED AS LOT 1R2, A NEW LOT OR SUB PARCEL TO PARCEL B.

IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO HAVE UP TO 10 PERCENT REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING.

ALSO ALLOW A REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM LOADING SPACE SIZE FROM MINIMUM 10 BY 50, WHICH GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THEY'RE REQUIRED AT LEAST ONE, 10 PER 50 SPACE THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS TO BE REDUCED TO A 10-BY-25 FOOT SPACE, ALSO ALLOWING THE HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL ARTICULATION OF THE BUILDING AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN AND ELEVATIONS INCLUDED WITH THE SUBMITTAL, AND ALSO REQUIRING COMPLIANCE WITH MASONRY OF THE BUILDING THAT IT BE AT LEAST 80 PERCENT MASONRY, WHICH COULD INCLUDE STONE, BRICK, CAST STONE, GLASS FIBER, REINFORCED CONCRETE, PRECAST CONCRETE PANELS, STUCCO OR SPLIT FACE CONCRETE BLOCK.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

THERE IS A VARIANCE REQUESTED ON STACKING DEPTH OFF OF GRACE LANE.

MINIMUM STACKING DEPTH IS 75 FEET AND THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 59 FEET MEASURED FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE FIRST INTERSECTING TURNING MOVEMENT WILL POINT OUT THAT THERE IS APPROXIMATELY A 12-FOOT PARKWAY BETWEEN THE PAVED EDGE AND PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT ALSO PROVIDE SOME EFFECTIVE STACKING.

THIS IS A AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE AND WHAT THIS IS POINTING OUT THAT IN OUR REVIEW SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSAL WE'RE REQUIRING THAT AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT THE EASTBOUND,

[00:10:02]

TWO LANES AT KIRKWOOD BE EXTENDED THROUGH THE FRONT EDGE OF THIS TRACT AND THEN TRANSITIONED TO THE CURRENT TWO LANES THAT EXIST.

THIS IS THEIR PARKING SUMMARY GIVEN THE PROPOSED USE OF THE BUILDING.

THEY ARE PARKING ALL OF THE ASSEMBLY AREAS AT ONE SPACE PER THREE SEATS.

THEN THE REMAINING OFFICE USE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH DOES INCLUDE ALL THE CORRIDOR AREAS, PARKING IT AT A STANDARD OFFICE RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER 300 SQUARE FEET, WITH THE FIRST 1,000 SQUARE FEET PROVIDING EIGHT SPACES FOR THAT FIRST 1,000 FEET.

WHAT THE 10 PERCENT REDUCTION? THEY ARE PROVIDING JUST UNDER A 10 PERCENT REDUCTION AT A 126 SPACES.

THIS IS THE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN PROVIDED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT UNDER A STANDARD ZONING CATEGORY.

GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF EXISTING TREE COVER AT 19 PERCENT, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PRESERVE AT LEAST 70 PERCENT OF THAT AND THEY'RE PROPOSING JUST UNDER 74 PERCENT OF THAT BE PRESERVED, WHICH IS COMPLIANT WITH STANDARD PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS.

THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN.

ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING.

IT CONSISTS OF A TILT WALL, SAND FINISH, EXTERIOR CONSTRUCTION STUCCO WITH SOME ACCENT, METAL PANELS.

THIS IS A EXHIBIT SHOWING THE EXPECTED FLOOR LAYOUT.

THIS IS FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.

IT WOULD INCLUDE DOWN SOME OFFICES, THE PODCAST STUDIO, AS WELL AS THE FILM ROOM, AND A SMALL CAFE AREA.

SECOND FLOOR WOULD INCLUDE SOME CONFERENCE SPACE AS WELL AS OFFICES FOR THE XO MARRIAGE.

THE THIRD FLOOR IS OPEN TO FUTURE EXPANSION OF XO MARRIAGE ITSELF OR LEASABLE SPACE FOR ANOTHER TENANT.

NOW THIS IS ELEVATION OF THE TRASH ENCLOSURE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS A STONE MASONRY EXTERIOR.

AS MENTIONED EARLIER, VARIANCES REQUESTED ON THE STACKING DEPTH OFF OF GRACE LANE.

THIS IS A SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSE MAP.

WE'VE RECEIVED ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION, JUST SLIGHTLY OUTSIDE OF THE 200-FOOT BUFFER AREA, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO YOU.

>> DENNIS, I'VE GOT THAT ONE. I'M SORRY. YEAH.

>> I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.

THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION.

>> DENNIS, I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S COME UP IN A COUPLE OF THESE CASES LATELY, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WEST JONES CREEK WATERSHED AND THE REQUEST TO HAVE A STUDY COMPLETED ON THAT.

I KNOW IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO THIS, BUT PART OF THE COMMENT AND THAT WAS THAT IT COULDN'T SUPPORT THE PROJECT UNTIL THERE WAS AN EFFORT

[00:15:01]

UNDERWAY TO COMPLETE A WEST JONES CREEK DRAINAGE STUDY AN UPDATED STUDY.

IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE TABLE, ANYTHING IN DISCUSSIONS THAT WOULD START TO RESPOND TO THAT? BECAUSE I CAN THINK OF AT LEAST THREE CASES.

WHERE THAT'S BEEN RAISED AS A CONCERN.

>> SURE. JUST TO BE SPECIFIC, THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE GATEWAY CAMPUS OR PROPOSED XO CAMPUS IS JUST OUTSIDE OF THAT WATERSHED.

IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY IMPACT THAT WATERSHED.

I'LL DEFER TO DIRECTOR BAKER TO SEE IF HE KNOWS IF THERE IS ANY STUDY IN PROGRESS OR TIMING SPECIFICALLY TO THE BRANCH YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

>> THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING ITS MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN, WHICH PART OF THAT WILL BE RECOMMENDING STUDIES ON THESE VARIOUS DRAINAGE BASINS, DRAINAGE AREAS, AND THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, ROB COHEN HAS MET WITH A GENTLEMAN WHO PROVIDED THE COMMENTS AND IS AWARE OF THE CONCERNS.

THERE ARE SOME EROSION IMPROVEMENTS SCHEDULED.

BUT EVENTUALLY, THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED AS PART OF OUR DRAINAGE PLAN WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE NEXUS TO DO A MORE COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF THAT BASIN.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. AS I SAID, THE FACT THAT IT'S COME UP IN TWO OR THREE CASES.

I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THAT IT'S BEING DISCUSSED. THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THING ELSE OR STUFF? THANK YOU, DENNIS.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

>> CAN WE GET OUR APPLICANT TO COME UP? HELLO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

>> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT.

MY NAME IS SHANAS, AND SHE IS CASEY, AND OUR OWNER IS MR. BRENTIS HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION.

>> COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> YOUR HOME ADDRESS OR YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS?

>> YES. I'M FROM PARK HILL AND I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER.

PARKER IS THE AUTHORIZED ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT? WE HAVE OUR OFFICE IS LOCATED IN FRISCO.

>> OKAY, AND WHAT'S THE ADDRESS?

>> 3000 INTERNET BOULEVARD.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> YEAH, FRISCO.

>> FRISCO. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I KNOW HE'S ALREADY EXPLAINED OUR PROJECT PRETTY EXTENSIVELY IN DETAILS.

I'M JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT FEW THINGS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

BASICALLY, I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT WHO ARE THEY, I MEAN, I'M JUST TALKING WITH THE OWNER AND WHAT'S, THEIR PURPOSE FOR BUILDING THIS BUILDING AND ABOUT THE FUNCTION AND HOW THE TRAFFIC IS AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE IMPACT ON THE TRAFFIC.

THEN LAST ITEM I'M GOING TO DISCUSS ABOUT THAT DRAINAGE IS AND SHE IS OUR ENGINEER AND SHE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DRAINAGE ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE XO MARRIAGE.

THE XO MARRIAGE IS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION AND IT EXISTS TO HELP COUPLES HAVE A HEALTHY AND STRONG MARRIAGE.

THEY DO THIS BY HOSTING CONFERENCE, CREATING RESOURCES, AND OFFERING ENCOURAGING DIGITAL CONTENT.

THEIR WORLD-CLASS SPEAKERS OFFER LEADING MARRIAGE ADVICE TO EQUIP COUPLES WITH THE NECESSARY TOOLS FOR A SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE.

HE ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT THIS PROJECT WAS PART OF THE GATEWAY CHURCH MASTER PLAN PROJECT.

THEN THEY DONATED THIS LAND BACK IN 2016 TO XO MARRIAGE TO BUILD THEIR OWN BUILDING.

THIS IS THAT OVERALL PLAN FOR THE SITE PLAN.

HERE I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR PROPOSED CIRCULATION.

AS YOU KNOW THAT THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE THE THREE-STORY AND OVER 32,000 SQUARE FEET BUILDING.

THEN WE HAVE MAJOR FUNCTION FOR THIS BUILDING IS OFFICE AND 156 SIMILAR CLASSROOM, CAFE AND TV STUDIO.

THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE USED MOSTLY MONDAY TO FRIDAY FROM 9:00 AM TO 5:00 PM.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME SEASONAL ACTIVITIES AT THE BUILDING.

BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE IN THE EVENING AND IN OUR ALL AND THE SATURDAY, BUT NOT IN THE SUNDAY BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO

[00:20:01]

THIS GATEWAY CHURCH SO THEY WILL NOT HAVE ANY ACTIVITY DURING SUNDAY.

THAT'S THE PLAN IS.

I'LL TALK A BIT MORE ABOUT THIS PROJECT LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION.

HE ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT THIS IS THE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN AND WE ARE TRYING TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE CITY REQUIREMENTS BASED ON THE CITY GUIDELINES.

THIS IS IN-DEPTH OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN AND OUR ENTRY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IN OUR MAIN ENTRY, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OUTDOOR SEATING AND WHICH IS ENCLOSED TO EITHER PLANTING AND LIGHTING AND GIVE IT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT FOR THE BUILDING TO UTILIZE THIS SPACE.

THIS IS MORE THE BUFFER YARD.

WELL, WE HAVE A PLAN, BUT THIS IS ALL TO MEET THE CITY GUIDELINES AND DUE TO ENHANCE THE AREA.

THIS IS JUST MORE IN-DEPTH INTERIOR LANDSCAPES AND IT IS SCHEDULED FOR LANDSCAPE.

HERE YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR INTERIOR, SOME IMAGERY, AND EMAILS FOR THE FUNCTION OF THE SPACE.

THE RIGHT-HAND CORNER INTO THE APP THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENT WE ARE GOING TO BE CLEARED FOR THE CAFE.

THEN BELOW YOU HAVE SEEN THAT CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT WE ARE SHOWING HERE.

THEN ON THE END, ON THIS CORNER, AT THE BOTTOM CORNER, WE HAVE OUR, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT, I THINK I CAN USE THESE MOUSE TO SHOW THAT.

THIS IS THE OUTER LOBBY TO HAVE A DISPLAY AREA, TO HAVE SOME DONOR WALL AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE SOME OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AREA THEY CAN USE FOR THEIR EVENT AND FOR HANGOUT FOR THIS SPACE.

THIS IS THE CLASSROOM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THEY WILL HAVE SOME LECTURE GOING ON AND EDUCATE PEOPLE TO DO THEIR ACTIVITIES.

THIS IS THE BUS STOP VIEW AND THE END TO DROP OFF AREA.

THIS IS THE MORE ANALYZES FOR ARTICULATION.

HOW WE ARE USING THE BUILDING MATERIAL, TO MEET THE CITY REQUIREMENTS, THE CITY GUIDELINES, AND MATERIAL GUIDELINES FOR THE CITY.

THIS IS OVERALL FLOOR PLAN AND THEN ALL ELEVATION WITH THE EXTERIOR RENDERING.

THIS IS THE MORE LIKE OUR PROPOSED PLAN FOR USING THIS SPACE AND THIS IS GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAILS OF THIS AREA.

THEN ONE OF THE THING I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT, HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DRAINAGE IS I WOULD SAY I WOULD LIKE TO GO ONE OF THE SITE PLAN AND TO MAKE SURE HE HAS THE RIGHT.

YOU CAN USE THIS ONE FOR TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE.

>> YES. CURRENTLY THE EXISTING SITE ALL DRAINS TO THE SOUTH TO AN EXISTING DETENTION CHANNEL ON THE SOUTH OF THE SITE AND THE WESTERN HOTEL SITE ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO THIS CHANNEL UNDER GRACE LANE.

OUR PROPOSED DRAINAGE PLAN FOLLOWS THIS EXISTING ROUTE AND GOES TO THAT DETENTION CHANNEL.

WE'RE PLANNING TO INCREASE THE SIZE AND STORAGE VOLUME OF THAT CHANNEL AND TO HOLD THE ADDITIONAL RUNOFF FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS POND DRAINS TO A CULVERT THAT RUNS TO THE NORTH UNDER KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD.

WE HAVE AN OUTLET STRUCTURE THAT WILL ONLY RELEASE THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT FLOW JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE WON'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANY OF THE DOWNSTREAM AREAS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET AND COMPLY WITH ALL OF THEIR STANDARDS AND DRAINAGE ORDINANCES.

>> DOES THE ROAD EXTENSION UP THERE ALSO, IS IT GOING TO DRAIN THROUGH THE PROPERTY HERE? WILL THAT BE UNDERGROUND OR WILL IT JUST FLOW THROUGH THE PROPERTY?

>> I BELIEVE IT WILL, WE'VE GOT A SMALL CHANNEL RUNNING ALONG KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD THAT ALSO DRAINS UNDER THAT CULVERT UNDERNEATH KIRKWOOD.

I THINK IT WILL DRAIN INTO THAT AS WELL.

>> OKAY. I'M SURE, YOU GUYS HAVE GOT ON HERE, YOU'RE AT THE SIDEWALKS AND PATHWAYS THROUGH HERE.

THAT'S PART OF YOUR OVERALL PLAN AS WELL, RIGHT? YOU HAVE THOSE SCHEDULED TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE PROJECT?

>> YES. THAT'S UNDER THE PLAN IS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY WENT UP, YOU DIDN'T ELABORATE ON THAT TOO MUCH SO I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS IN THERE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM IF YOU BACK UP, I THINK ONE SLIDE MAYBE TO YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN.

[00:25:04]

MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE TO EVEN THIS ONE YOU COULD DO THIS.

THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND OF THIS PICTURE SHOWS SOME TREES AND ON THE ONE WHERE YOU SHOW THAT YOU WERE SAVING 73 PERCENT OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS, YOU'RE INCLUDING ONLY THE TREES THAT ARE WITHIN THE PERIMETER OF WHAT THIS DRAWING HERE, NOT THOSE TREES THAT ARE OUTSIDE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IS THIS THE SLIDE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?

>> YES.

>> THE TREE CONSERVATION THAT ALL THE RED IS WE ADJUST AND THEN.

>> I'M JUST TRYING TO CONFIRM THAT THE CALCULATION DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE THAT ARE TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PICTURE HERE OUTSIDE THE PERIMETER?

>> YES.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU.

>> NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> QUICK QUESTION.

>> YES.

>> ON YOUR FIRST FLOOR WHAT'S THIS CLEAR HEIGHT, THE CEILING HEIGHT ON THE FIRST FLOOR, LOBBY FLOOR?

>> OUR FLOOR TO FLOOR HEIGHT IS 16 FEET FOR THE FLOOR AND THEN THE UPPER FLOOR WE HAVE 14, 6.

BUT, WE HAVE, IF WE GO TO THIS SLIDE ON THE CAFE AREA, FOR THE FIRST FLOOR MOST OF THE AREA WILL HAVE THAT JUST AN OPEN CEILING CONCEPT.

IT JUST KIND OF MODERN LOOK AND YOU'LL HAVE BOTTOM OF THE DECK WE'LL HAVE 16, LIKE THAT.

>> OKAY.

>> YEAH.

>> THEN COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN THAT HAD THE LANDSCAPING?

>> YEAH. THIS ONE?

>> YEAH. SO IN TERMS OF PARKING AND ACCESS, I GUESS TWO QUESTIONS.

GOING SOUTH IS TO GATEWAY CHURCH.

THERE WON'T BE AN ACCESS POINT TO THE CHURCH OR TO THAT PARKING LOT.

IT'LL JUST BE GRACE AND KIRKWOOD?

>> YES.

>> I JUST WANT CONFIRMATION?

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEPARATE FROM THE GATEWAY CHURCH THEY ARE THEIR OWN ENTITY.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT.

>> OKAY. GOOD. THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS RELATED TO PARKING.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE, IF THEY'RE EMPLOYEES I GUESS THEY'RE PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE NORTH SIDE, AND THE NORTH SIDE, IT JUST FEELS A LITTLE DISJOINTED BEING SEPARATED LIKE THAT.

I GUESS THAT'S SIMPLY JUST SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE SEA OF PARKING THERE, THE AESTHETIC REASONS?

>> THAT IS ONE OF THE REASON, ANOTHER REASON IS BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE SOME [OVERLAPPING] TREES AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET REDUCED INTO THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF TREES TO MAKE SURE WE COMPLY WITH THE CITY REQUIREMENT.

>> SURE.

>> THAT IS ANOTHER REASON WE HAVE.

>> OKAY.

>> WHEN YOU'LL SEE THE BUILDING WITH THE BIG LANDSCAPE, YOU FEEL LIKE THIS LOOKS NICE AND ENHANCE THAT.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT EXCEEDING THE CITY REQUIREMENTS.

>> OKAY.

>> THAT PARKING ON KIRKWOOD, WOULD THAT BE PRIMARILY FOR EMPLOYEES OR WOULD THAT BE MORE OF A DESIGNATED EMPLOYEE PARKING AREA AS WELL?

>> YEAH, COULD BE LIKE THIS.

THEY WOULD JUST USE THIS MOST LIKELY TO IMPLY PARKING AND THEN THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR THEM.

THE VISITORS AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN USE IT.

>> OKAY. I WANTED TO ASK YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR THEATER.

I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU GIVE PRESENTATIONS IN THERE JUST FOR PEOPLE TO BE THERE, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE YOU DO RECORDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL, OR IS THAT THE ONLY USE FOR THE THEATER?

>> COULD YOU PLEASE SAY AGAIN.

>> EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE THEATER PART OF THE BUILDING IS FOR.

IS THAT JUST FOR WHEN YOU SHOW MOVIES PRESENTATIONS TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTENDING, OR DO YOU RECORD FROM THERE AND THEN BROADCAST THOSE?

>> OKAY. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FUNCTION OF THE BUILDING?

>> NO, THE 150 SEAT THEATER.

>> DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, HE'S THE OWNER AND HE KNOWS BETTER THAN HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO USE THAT ASPECT.

>> OKAY.

>> THIS IS WHAT I WAS PREPARED FOR.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS BRENT EVANS AND I'M THE CEO OF XO MARRIAGE.

IN FACT, WE HAVE AN OFFICE HERE IN TIMES SQUARE AT 115 GRANT AVENUE, SUITE 213.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.

THE 150 SEAT CLASSROOM IS REALLY GOING TO BE UTILIZE MORE FOR TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION COURSES, AND ALSO FOR RECORDING SMALLER SIZED AUDIENCE TV SHOWS AND ONLINE MEDIA.

WE'LL BRING IN SMALL COLLECTIVE GROUP OF COUPLES AND DO TEACHINGS AND TRAININGS FOR THEM ON SITE.

[00:30:01]

THOSE ARE GENERALLY DURING THE DAY, SOMETIMES ON THE NIGHTS, VERY SELDOMLY ON THE WEEKENDS, AND PRETTY CHIEFLY, I NEVER OPEN ON SUNDAYS TYPICALLY.

THE MAJORITY OF OUR USAGE FOR THAT SPACE IS FOR VIDEO BROADCASTS USE AND FOR TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION PURPOSES.

>> ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD.

THEN HOW DOES YOUR PODCASTS THING WORK? IS THIS SOMETHING YOU GUYS NORMALLY JUST HAVE A REGULAR PODCAST SERIES YOU PUT OUT?

>> WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT SPEAKERS AND PEOPLE WHO PRESENT. THERE'S TWO STUDIOS.

ONE IS DESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY FOR PODCASTING, FOR CREATING YOUTUBE TYPE STYLE SHOWS, MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE SPACE FOR BACKDROPS.

SOME LED WALLS FOR SOME DYNAMIC SETS.

WE'LL BRING HOSTS IN TO DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF SHOWS AS WELL AS GUESTS AND SHOOT IN THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE.

BUT ANYTIME WE NEED AN AUDIENCE, ANYTIME WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE PEOPLE, IF HAVE SOME ENERGY IN THE ROOM, WE'LL MOVE TO THAT OTHER CLASSROOM FOR THAT.

BOTH ARE BUILT FOR VIDEO CONTENT THOUGH.

>> GOT YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ONE OF THE QUESTION, WHY IS IT DID YOU DON'T WANT THE LARGER LOADING SPACE? DO YOU DON'T EVER FEEL YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEED FOR THAT?

>> BASED ON THE AREA REQUIREMENT, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T REQUIRE TO HAVE A BIG TRUCK.

THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE HAVE THIS SMALLER ONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE OPTION FOR TWO.

OPTION 1 IS WHATEVER THE SIZE IS.

THE 10 BY 25.

>> 25.

>> THE OTHER ONE WAS 10 BY 250.

WE TALKED WITH THEM AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T REQUIRE TO HAVE A SEMI TRUCK OR SOMETHING BIGGER TRUCK LIKE THAT. THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. EVANS.

WHAT IS THE THIRD FLOOR GOING TO BE USED FOR?

>> IT JUST FOR FUTURE EXPANSION.

WE WANTED TO HAVE THE ABILITY UPON GROWTH, TO HAVE SPACE TO MOVE IN AS OPPOSED TO CREATING ANOTHER PHASE OF THE BUILDING STRUCTURE THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AS JUST DOING A TWO-STORY BUILDING AND DOWN THE ROAD BUILDING SOMETHING ADJACENT.

THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO GROW EFFICIENTLY.

SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT WE LEASE MORE SPACE.

AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO HAVE NO DESIRE TO LEASE IT OUT.

THE BUILDING IS NOT REALLY CREATED FOR THAT USE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST GOING TO BE SHELLED THAT SPACE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR.

>> WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE TO YOUR OFFICE OCCUPANCY? IS GOING TO BE JUST ON A NORMAL DAY WHEN YOU'RE NOT HAVING AN EVENT.

>> SURE. WE HAVE 25 EMPLOYEES.

WE'RE NOT A COUNSELING CENTER, BUT WE DO ON-SITE MEDIATION FOR COUPLES.

WE'LL HAVE COACHES AND COUNSELORS ON-SITE FOR COUPLES.

ON ANY GIVEN DAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A FLOW OF OUR EMPLOYEES, WHICH WE ANTICIPATE SOME GROWTH EVEN IN THE SHORT TERM TO ABOUT 35 EMPLOYEES AND THEN OUR COACHES.

WE'LL HAVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 6 AND 10 COACHES ON-SITE ANY GIVEN DAY.

THAT'S A GENERAL LOOK AND FEEL FOR A NORMAL DAY.

THEN IF WE HAVE A CERTIFICATION COURSE, YOU MIGHT SEE AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.

THE CAFE THERE IS REALLY MEANT FOR MORE OF THE PEOPLE ON-SITE, EMPLOYEES, VISITORS, THAT THING.

WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING TO BECOME A STOPPING PLACE FOR EVERYONE TO COME GETTING THAT MORNING CUP OF COFFEE. IT'S NOT REALLY BUILT FOR THAT.

BUT HOPE IS IF SOMEBODY COMES, THEY COULD CHECK OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THE PODCASTS ROOM WILL HAVE A GLASS WALL SO PEOPLE CAN WATCH US DO WHAT WE DO THERE ON-SITE AND COME ENJOY IT.

>> INTERESTING. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YES, SIR.

>> LAST QUESTION. FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT, DO THE MATERIALS AND OUTSIDE MATCH SIMILAR TO WHAT IS AT THE WESTIN THAT'S GOING NEXT DOOR OR GATEWAY? I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY SIMILAR FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE?

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE ELEVATION IN OUR 3D, YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS GRADIENT IS OUR STUCCO.

IT'S MODERN LOOK AND THEN WE HAVE OUR TILT UP CONCRETE WALL.

IT'S SAND FINISH.

WHEN WE'RE DESIGNING, WE TALKED TO THEM TO HAVE GOOD VISION AND HAVING TO HAVE A DEVELOPED CONCEPT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONCEPT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR MEET THE REQUIREMENT.

AT THE SAME TIME WE GO THROUGH THE CITY REQUIREMENTS AND THEN GUIDELINES AND MATERIAL AND LIKE THAT.

WE TRIED TO GET IN A DIFFERENT CONCEPT NOT TO TRY TO MATCH IT THE WESTIN BECAUSE THIS IS THE HOTEL.

THEN YOU HAVE A CHURCH AND WE ARE OFFICE FUNCTIONS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A CHARACTER JUST LOOK LIKE IT'S AN OFFICE TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENT.

>> GOT YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE?

[00:35:01]

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE MAY ASK YOU TO COME BACK UP BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING. YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. THIS ITEM REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NO ONE, I GUESS WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AROUND THE GROUP.

>> I MIGHT BE AN OUTLIER HERE, BUT [NOISE] DOES IT STRIKE ANYONE ELSE THAT THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING? WHETHER IT'S CURRENT INTENT IS FOR MULTI-TENANT, IT'S CERTAINLY SET UP TO BE CONVERTED THAT WAY, NOT WITHOUT SPENDING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT WAS SOLD TO PRIOR ZONING COMMISSION OR PRIOR CITY COUNCIL WHEN THE ORIGINAL SITE PLANNING AND ZONING PLAN FOR THE GATEWAY CHURCH WAS PUT INTO PLACE.

I'VE GOT NO COMMENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THE RIGHT PLACE FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING.

IF THIS WERE NOT PART OF THE GATEWAY CHURCH LAND AND OFFICE DEVELOPER WAS COMING IN HERE WANTING TO POP A THREE-STORY MULTI-TENANT BUILDING, THEY'D BE REJECTED OUT OF HAND.

FOR THAT REASON, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS ITEM. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? HAVE ANY COMMENT?

>> I GUESS I CAN GO NEXT. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A HUGE ISSUE.

I SEE WHAT COMMISSIONER DIKE SAYING, IT DOES SEEM A LITTLE OUT OF PLACE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THAT OFFICE USE WOULD BE ALREADY A PERMITTED USE.

WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT ADDING SOME PERMITTED USES WITH THE FILM STUDIO ON THE PODCAST STUDIO, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ADDING THE PERMITTED USES THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING OR THE FEW VARIANCES WITH THE PARKING OR THE SMALLER LOADING SPACE.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE, I GUESS I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH I MEAN, I CREATED IT DOES SEEM A LITTLE EXCESSIVE FOR THAT SPOT, BUT I THINK IT'S A NICE LOOKING BUILDING AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE. I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT IN THAT LIGHT, BUT I THINK THE WAY IT'S PROPOSED TO BLEND IN WITH THE AREA IN TERMS OF THE ARCHITECTURE, WHILE THE MATERIALS MAY NOT BE EXACT, I THINK THEY'LL AT LEAST BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ON THE CHURCH OR WHAT'S AT THE WESTERN.

NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO STAND OUT LIKE WE'VE SEEN IN SOME BUILDINGS ON WEST SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD THAT HAVE ORANGE PANELS AND PURPLE PANELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK THIS IS VERY NEUTRAL COLORS AND THE FACT THAT IT IS NEUTRAL.

I DON'T HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT IT BEING AN OFFICE BUILDING FOR THAT SITE.

>> I THINK ABOUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE DELTA HOTEL JUST UP THE ROAD, AND I THINK THE INTENT FOR THAT IS TO HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVE USES, WHETHER THE OFFICE PAD SITES IN FRONT OF THE HOTEL AND HAVING A EXCHANGE THERE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, IS ODDLY PLACED BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE IT GRAVITATES MORE TOWARDS WORKING WITH THE CHURCH THAN IT DOES THE HOTEL, THAT'S NOT A BAD THING.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

I DO LIKE THE GLASS, THE ARCHITECTURE FROM IT, AND I ASKED THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE CEILING HEIGHT ON THE FIRST FLOOR BECAUSE FROM A CLASS A OFFICE STANDPOINT, WHEN YOU GET ABOUT 14,16 FEET, I THINK IT PRESENTS BETTER AS A CLASS A NICE OFFICE SETTING.

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE STRANGE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M AGAINST IT.

>> JUST AS ANOTHER COMMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS AND LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS HERE, IF THIS WERE ONLY A TWO STORY, PERHAPS COMMISSIONER DIKE CAN ADDRESS THAT.

I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WOULD HAVE THE ISSUE AND FEEL OF AN OFFICE BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT MORE CONFORMS WITH A CHURCH CAMPUSES THERE. JUST A THOUGHT.

I KNOW MR. EVANS TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT WAS CONSIDERATION ONE OF ROOM TO GROW AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WITH NO PLANS TO CONVERT THAT INTO LEASED SPACE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT POTENTIAL DOES ALWAYS EXIST THERE FOR THAT AND CERTAINLY A CONSIDERATION.

>> WELL, I AGREE BECAUSE, THEY'RE SPLITTING IT UP TO BE A TOTALLY SEPARATE ENTITY THERE SO IT CAN BE SOLD AT ANY POINT IN TIME.

[00:40:02]

BUT I'M THINKING WITH THE USE OF IT BECAUSE HE SAYS HE ONLY GOT LIKE 28 EMPLOYEES DURING THE DAY.

THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ON THAT IS GOING TO BE MINIMAL EXCEPT FOR WHEN THEY'RE HAVING EVENTS.

I CAN SEE THAT THE HOTEL GIVES A PLACE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTENDING SOMETHING HERE, LIKE 150 PEOPLE IN THE AUDITORIUM OR WHATEVER GOOD DAY, HAVE A PLACE TO STAY BUT IT ALSO TIES IN WITH THE CHURCH MISSION AS WELL.

I REALLY LIKED THE WAY THAT THEY'VE DONE LANDSCAPING AND LAID THE WHOLE SITE OUT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BLEND IN OVER TIME PRETTY WELL, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT, IT HAS THE NEUTRAL COLORS ON IT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST BE SOMETHING BLARING UP THERE LIKE A NEON SIGN.

I THINK I'M OKAY WITH THE OFFICE USE PART OF IT.

I MEAN, THAT IS PART OF THE ACCEPTED USES FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

LET'S VOTE. NOBODY'S GOT ANYTHING ELSE HERE? WELL, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MR. ACTING CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-782 KCEA 21-00031, ZONING CHANGE IN CONCEPT SITE PLAN FOR XO MARRIAGE CENTER, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 28TH, 2021.

THE CONCEPT AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER 3, DATED MAY 27TH, 2021, IN GRANTING THE VARIANCE REQUESTED.

>> VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> CAST YOUR VOTES, PLEASE.

THAT PASSES FOUR TO ONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD LUCK, GUYS.

>> THANK YOU.

[8. Consider: Ordinance No. 480-783 (ZA21-0037), Zoning Change and Concept Plan for 1425 Randol Mill Ave.]

>> WE'LL, NOW, MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8, A ZONING CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR 1425 RANDOL MILL AVENUE.

>> THANK YOU. THIS IS A REQUEST OF A ZONING CHANGE IN CONCEPT PLAN ON PROPERTY JUST UNDER THREE ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT SF-1A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND PROPOSING TWO SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.

THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THE PROPERTIES JUST ALONG THE EAST BOUNDARY OF FM 1938 AND RANDOL MILL, JUST TO ITS INTERSECTION WITH RANDOL MILL AVENUE AND IT'S CHANGED TO DAVIS BOULEVARD AS IT GOES THROUGH BUS LIGHT.

THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS AGRICULTURAL.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND A VIEW LOOKING EAST ACROSS FM 1938.

RANDOL MILL AVENUE IS JUST OFF TO THE LEFT.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN.

THERE ARE TWO CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED DRIVEWAY APPROACHES WHICH THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE.

[INAUDIBLE] PROPOSES TWO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED TREE CONSERVATION PLAN.

THERE IS CURRENTLY 34 PERCENT COVERAGE WHICH REQUIRES A MINIMUM 60 PERCENT TO BE PRESERVED, AND THAT IS FOR LOT 1, WHICH IS NORTH LOT ON LOT 2, BASED ON THAT COVERAGE, IT REQUIRES 50 PERCENT TO BE PRESERVED AND THEY ARE SHOWING APPROXIMATELY 75 PERCENT TO BE PRESERVED ON LOT 2, THE SOUTHERN LOT.

THERE IS A 8 FEET MULTI-USE TRAIL REQUIRED ALONG THE FRONT EDGE OF FM 1938, AND THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED.

THIS IS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES RECEIVED.

WE'VE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE FROM AN ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER TO THE EAST THAT IS OPPOSED.

WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

[00:45:01]

>> ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

DENNIS. LET'S SPEAK TO OUR APPLICANT.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YEAH. PLEASE COME UP AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, FOR THE RECORD.

>> HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS RAUL AND MY COMPANY ADDRESS IS 1645 TRACE BELLA COURT WESTLAKE, TEXAS, AND WE ARE PROPOSING THIS LIKE IT'S ON THE DAVIS BOULEVARD ON THE WEST SIDE.

THIS IS 300 FOOT OR 325 FOOT LONG, A FRIEND WE HAVE AND THE DEPTH OF THIS LOT, EXISTING LOT IS 400 FOOT.

WE ARE PROPOSING LIKE A 160 FOOT WEST OF EACH LOT AND 400 FOOT DEPTH FOR EACH LOT.

THAT'S A SIMPLE PROPOSAL, AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE IS ALREADY A COUPLE OF HOUSES IN THAT SAME KIND OF STYLE OR KIND OF STRUCTURE HAVE BEEN BUILD ON RECENTLY.

RECENTLY IS LIKE AFTER 2017 AND ON.

WE ARE JUST PROPOSING THAT.

RIGHT NOW IT'S AGRICULTURE JUNE, SO WE ARE REQUESTING FOR REJOINING TWO ACRE PLUS LOT WHICH IS SF1A AND WE WANTED TO REQUEST FOR SUBDIVIDE AS WELL.

THAT'S THE ONLY TWO REQUESTS WE ARE WORKING ON.

>> THIS IS UNUSUAL PARKING YOU HAVE IN THE FRONT HERE.

>> BECAUSE OF THE DAVIS'S REALLY THE TRAFFIC MOVE FAST ON THAT ONE AND THERE'S NO PARKING SPACE OVER THERE, SO WHOEVER BUY THE HOUSE FOR THESE SIX TO EIGHT THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT, THEY MIGHT HAVE THE GUEST AND THEY NEED PARKING SPACES OVER THERE.

BECAUSE MOST OF THE HOUSES ARE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY CAN PARK OVER ON THE ROAD, BUT OVER HERE THEY CANNOT PARK ON THE DAVIS, SO WE HAVE TO DO SOME KIND OF PARKING INSIDE AND WE ARE PLANNING TO DO SOME LANDSCAPING AROUND THESE PARKINGS, SO FROM THE DAVIS BOULEVARD, NOBODY WILL SEE THOSE AND THAT WILL ALSO REDUCE THE SOUND COMING FROM THAT TRAFFIC AS WELL.

THAT'S WHY WE PROVIDED THESE PARKINGS.

>> WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING ON AS FAR AS ON THE ROAD, I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER HOUSES IN THAT AREA THERE HAVE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT MASONRY FENCING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT UP THERE FOR?

>> YES, WE ARE LOOKING SOMETHING SIMILAR, MASONRY FENCING AS PART OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE ORDINANCE WHATEVER IT IS ALLOWING.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO MASONRY FENCE OR SOMETHING SOLID WITH SOME NICE AESTHETIC ROD IRON OR SOME KIND OF A RAILING AS WELL.

>> OKAY. ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S WHERE THE ONE OPPOSITION CAME FROM, WHAT IS YOUR IDEA BACK THERE? I KNOW IT'S PRETTY HEAVILY TREE BUT WHAT ABOUT FENCING BACK THERE?

>> YES. I READ HIS COMMAND AS WELL.

THERE'S TWO CONCERN FROM THAT MR. CHEN, WHO LIVE IN 1440 BROWN LANE ON THE BACKSIDE.

ONE IS THE TRAFFIC NOISE.

WHILE WE ARE BUILDING THESE TWO HOUSES OVER THERE, AND THEY ARE COVERING ALMOST LIKE 80 PERCENT OF THE LOT FROM THE BOTH SIDE, AND DAVIS IS THE MOSTLY TRAFFIC BECAUSE ON THE RANDOL MILL, THERE IS NOT MUCH TRAFFIC.

THERE IS A MUCH MORE TRAFFIC, SO THESE HOUSES WILL REDUCE TRAFFIC SOUND TO HIS PROPERTY LIKE 70 TO 80 PERCENT AT LEAST.

SECOND, HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRIVACY.

BUT THERE IS SO MUCH TREES ON THE BACK AND THOSE ARE MATURE TREES, LIKE REALLY BIG TREES.

WE ARE ALREADY PLANNING TO PUT SOME PLANTS ON THE BACKSIDE AT THE VERY END BACK OF THE PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE BOTH HOMEOWNERS WILL HAVE A PRIVACY ONCE THE HOUSE IS BUILT.

>> ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT A WOODEN FENCE?

>> IF CITY ALLOWED US, WE CAN DO THAT.

WE'LL DEFINITELY DO THAT TO MAKE SURE THE PRIVACY BEING FOR BOTH THE HOMEOWNERS.

>> YEAH. I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD GOOD IDEA FOR YOU TO WORK WITH THEM PRETTY CLOSELY AND MAKE SURE THAT HE'S HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE.

>> YEAH, DEFINITELY. THESE ARE NOT IN THE HOA SO IF THE NEIGHBOR IS OKAY WITH THE WOOD FENCE ON THE BACKSIDE, MR. CHEN, WE ARE OKAY TO PUT A WOOD FENCE ON THE BACK.

>> IF YOU WOULD REACH OUT WITH HIM AND TALK WITH HIM ABOUT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT HE'S HAPPY WITH THAT.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> THE FENCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MASONRY OR ROD IRON OR WHATEVER ALONG RANDOL MILL, SETBACK HOW FAR FROM THE STREET?

>> RIGHT NOW THIS PROPERTY,

[00:50:01]

THERE IS A TEN FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE DAVIS BOULEVARD RIGHT NOW AND FROM THAT STREET IS ALREADY OUR PROPERTIES LIKE MAYBE 50 FOOT BACK FROM THE DAVIS BOULEVARD AND WE ARE LOOKING MAYBE A LITTLE BIT, WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENT, BUT NOT TOO FAR FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE AT THE PROPERTY LINE OR MAYBE FEW FOOT BEHIND OUR PROPERTY LINE.

MOST OF THOSE HOUSES WHICH ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THEY ARE AT THE PROPERTY LINE, SO WE'LL TRY TO MATCH THAT ONE.

>> ARE YOU CONSIDERING ANY KIND OF A STORAGE BUILDINGS, ANYTHING IN THE BACK AT ALL?

>> NO.

>> THIS IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING HERE, IS WHAT THE FINAL PRODUCT WILL BE?

>> YES, AND THERE WILL BE A POOL ON THE BACKSIDE.

>> OKAY.

>> ON THE BOTH HOUSE.

>> BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNED ABOUT IS IF YOU GO BACK THERE AND BUILD A CASINO BACK THERE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, GUEST QUARTERS, THAT CAN GET A LITTLE CRAZY.

>> YEAH. NO, THERE'S NO PLAN FOR THAT.

WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

JUST WILL BE THE POOL AND SOME NICE LANDSCAPING WILL BE ADDED IN THESE PLANTS.

>> OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AEROBIC SYSTEM IN THE BACK SO YOU COULDN'T PUT ANY KIND OF STRUCTURES BEYOND THE POOL ANYWAY, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES.

>> THIS IS THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM?

>> YEAH, ON THESE LOTS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CITY [INAUDIBLE] SO WE ARE PUTTING THOSE AEROBIC SYSTEMS OR WHATEVER.

ANYWAYS, WE CANNOT PUT ANY STRUCTURE OVER THERE.

BASICALLY MAYBE ANOTHER LIKE 30, 40 FOOT FROM THE HOUSE.

AFTER THAT, WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT LIKE A GRASS AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> GREAT. OKAY.

>> THANKS.

>> ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. THIS ITEM REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEE NO ONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> OKAY. I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-783 CASE A21-0037, ZONING CHANGE IN CONCEPT PLAN FOR 1425 RANDOL MILL AVENUE, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 28TH, 2021 AND THE CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER 2, DATED MAY 27TH, 2021.

>> VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? EVERYBODY CAST YOUR VOTE, PLEASE? THAT PASSES FOUR TO ZERO. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[BACKGROUND]. EXCUSE ME, FIVE ZERO.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. MY MATH IS OFF.

WE'LL NOW TAKE ITEM NUMBER 9,

[9. ZA21-0041, Plat Revision for Lots 3R1 and 3R2, T.M. Hood No. 706 Addition ]

WHICH IS PLANT REVISION FOR LOTS 3R1 AND 3R2 OF THE TM WOOD ADDITION.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO SUB-DIVIDE AN APPROXIMATELY 5.87 ACRE LOT INTO TWO BUILDABLE LOTS.

THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THIS PROPERTY IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND THE CURRENT ZONING SF1A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THIS IS AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

CURRENTLY HAS AN EXISTING HOME AND A QUESTION BARN ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY TWO LOTS AND WAS REPLATED TO COMBINE THE TWO LOTS INTO A SINGLE LOT AND ABANDONED UTILITY EASEMENT THAT WAS REQUIRED TO SURROUND THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING LOT.

THIS PROPOSAL IS TO RE-SUBDIVIDE IT IN TO BUILDABLE LOTS.

SOUTHERN LOT BEING APPROXIMATELY 3.3 ACRES, THE NORTHERN LOT 2.5 ACRES.

THIS IS THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY AND OF COURSE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN, ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE MINIMUM PRESERVATION STANDARDS WITH THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION BASED ON A STANDARD ZONING CATEGORY.

THERE IS A VARIANCE REQUESTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SUBDIVISION OF THE PROPERTY.

GIVEN THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, THE DIVISION OF THE PROPERTY WOULD LEAVE

[00:55:02]

THE ACCESSORY BUILDING ON A LOT WITH NO PRINCIPLE USE.

THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE THAT ANY SUBDIVISION BE DONE SUCH THAT IT DOES FULLY COMPLIES WITH THE ZONING ORDINATES.

THE VARIANCE HERE IS TO ALLOW THE OWNER TO HAVE THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE REMAIN AFTER SUBDIVISION.

ALL LIKELIHOOD IT WOULD BE A TEMPORARY CONDITION GIVEN THAT EITHER A PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE WOULD BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY AND OF COURSE, IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINATES AND OR THE BARN STRUCTURE BE REMOVED WITH DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARTICULAR LOT.

ALSO, WE'VE PASSED OUT A UPDATED STAFF REPORT WITH WHICH WAS DONE, JUST TO CLARIFY TO THE APPLICANT THAT ANY PRIVATE UTILITIES THAT MAY EXIST CROSSING BETWEEN THESE BOUNDARIES THAT THEY WOULD NEED APPROPRIATE EASEMENTS FOR OR WOULD NEED TO RELOCATE THOSE UTILITIES INTO THE LOT THAT THEY SERVE.

[OVERLAPPING] I'LL ALSO ADD THAT THAT ALSO WOULD APPLY TO THIS DRIVEWAY ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

THEY WOULD NEED TO ALLOCATE THAT ACCESSES EASEMENT FOR THAT IF THE DRIVEWAY IS TO REMAIN IN THAT LOCATION.

>> OKAY. IS THE POND ALREADY THERE? THAT'S SHOWN IN THE FRONT.

>> IT IS. YES.

>> OKAY. THE INTENT IS THAT THE HOUSE THAT'S THERE NOW WILL STAY?

>> THAT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING, YES.

>> OKAY.

>> THEY DO NOT WISH TO REMOVE ANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS TIME.

I THINK THE APPLICANT COULD BETTER EXPLAIN WHAT THE [OVERLAPPING] FULL INTENT IS THAN I WOULD.

THIS IS THE MASTER PATHWAY PLAN.

THEY ARE REQUIRED A MINIMUM FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK BE CONSTRUCTED WITH ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE ON THE PROPERTY.

IF NEW HOMES BUILT ON THE NEWLY CREATED LOT OR THE EXISTING HOMES RAISED AND NEW HOME REBUILT, EITHER WOULD REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK.

THIS IS A PROPERTY ON OUR RESPONSE AND I MIGHT PROVIDE A CLARIFICATION THAT NOTIFICATION FOR A PLAT REVISION IN THIS FORM, ONLY GOES TO OWNERS THAT ARE WITHIN THE PLATTED SUBDIVISION THAT ARE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE RE-PLAT.

NOTIFICATIONS THAT WERE SENT WERE BY STATE LAW, ONLY REQUIRED TO GO TO THIS PARTICULAR LOT OWNER.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OTHER RESPONSES FROM THE PUBLIC.

WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> IS THERE EXISTING PATHWAYS THERE NOW THAT THIS WILL TIE INTO OR IS THIS GOING TO BE AN ISOLATED PIECE? [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE ANY CONSTRUCTED SIDEWALKS ALONG THIS PORTION OF SHADY OAKS.

IT IS STILL A RURAL CROSS-SECTION WITH PRIMARILY BAR DITCHES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET THAT VARY IN DEPTH.

>> THANKS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A SHARED DRIVEWAY THEN? SHARED ACCESS EASEMENT?

>> I WOULD DEFER TO THAT, AS TO WHAT THEIR FUTURE PLANS ARE IN THE NEWLY CREATED LOT.

I SAID THAT AT THIS TIME THEY'VE NOT INDICATED ANY OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES.

THEY WOULD BE REMOVING WITH THIS REPLAT.

>> THANKS SO MUCH, DENNIS.

DO WE GET OUR APPLICANT TO COME UP? PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> HELLO. I'M BRIAN LIBERMAN, 509 KING RANCH ROAD SOUTHLAKE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER A QUESTION HERE?

>> YEAH. IF YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY, THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.

ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY AND [OVERLAPPING] USE IT FOR BOTH.

>> WE'LL DO ANOTHER ONE. THE REASON AND THAT BARN IS GOING TO GO TO MY ISSUE IS CHICKEN AND EGG THING.

I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THE PLANS AND THEN FIND OUT WE CAN'T SPLIT IT.

[01:00:02]

>> YEAH TRUE.

>> I WANT TO GET THE SPLIT THE BARN WILL GO I'LL GET PLANS AND THE HOUSE IS GOING TO GO RIGHT WHERE THE BARN IS.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN CHANGE ANY OF THIS, BUT IF WE GO BACK MAYBE TO THE GOOGLE IMAGE OF THE POND AND I CAN EXPLAIN THE POND AS WELL.

I THINK THERE IS ONE MORE THAN IT WAS LITTLE MORE ZOOMED IN.

>> LET'S SEE, I DON'T HAVE ONE BUT I DO HAVE THE AS BUILT.

>> YEAH. THAT ONE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT ONE.

>> THE TIP OF THAT, IT'S A REALLY ODD-SHAPED POND.

IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY WANTED TO MAKE AN UPSIDE-DOWN T. WHERE THAT FENCE LINE GOES THROUGH THE POND, THAT WILL BE FILLED IN SO THE POND DOESN'T CROSS THE PROPERTY LINE.

BUT WE SET THE PROPERTY LINE THERE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO ENORMOUS TREES IN THE FRONT AND WE WON'T BE TAKING OUT ANY TREES.

WE WON'T DO ANYTHING TO ANY OF THE TREES.

MOST OF THE NORTH PROPERTY IS BARE BECAUSE IT WAS PASTURE LAND.

SO EVEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF A HOME, WE WON'T REMOVE ANY TREES.

WE WILL DO A NEW DRIVEWAY.

IF YOU NOTICE ON THE HOUSE THAT'S ON THE SOUTH, RIGHT WHERE THAT 906 NUMBER IS, THAT'S THE GARAGE.

IT'S A REALLY ODD DESIGN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU COME IN AND COME ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE HOUSE TO THE GARAGE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

WE'LL BE LOOKING TO PUT A DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT ROW OF TREES THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE POND.

BUT WE'LL COME BACK TO THE CITY REQUESTING THAT AND THEN REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR THE BUILDING PLANS IN THE NORTH.

I JUST NEED TO GET IT SPLIT.

>> WILL YOU TAKE THAT EXISTING DRIVE OUT THAT CROSSES THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE?

>> THE EXISTING DRIVE, I THINK WILL STAY FOR THE OTHER LOT.

>> OKAY. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU SAID YOU'D COME ALL THE WAY DOWN ACROSS THE WHOLE FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE AND THEN YOU'D TURN BACK IN FOR THE DRIVE.

ARE YOU INTENDING ON LEAVING THAT PORTION?

>> NO. RIGHT HERE, THIS CONCRETE WILL BE REMOVED.

IT'S GOING TO BE CUT IN A CIRCULAR SHAPE HERE.

THERE WILL BE A DRIVER THAT'LL COME THROUGH HERE.

YOU'LL HAVE A CIRCULAR RETURN, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME SAYING, YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET.

YOU HAVE A CIRCULAR DRIVE AND THEN YOU HAVE A TURN LEFT INTO THE GARAGE.

>> VERY GOOD. ON THE SIDEWALK PORTION OF THIS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ESCROW THAT MONEY FOR THE FUTURE BUILDING OF THAT SIDEWALK?

>> ALSO, ACROSS THIS TREE, 1275, 1285, AND I JUST SOLD 1295.

I WOULD LOVE IF YOU WOULD JUST COME IN AND MAKE EVERYBODY DO A SIDEWALK.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE SEEN ONE GET BUILT WITH IT, NEXT ONE WITHOUT IT, NEXT ONE WITH IT, AND THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, WE'D HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT WOULD THEN GO INTO THE HOA WITH NO SIDEWALK, WHICH I THINK IS GOING TO BE AN EXPANDED, I GUESS THAT'S THE PROPOSALS EXPANDING THAT AS A TURNABOUT.

TO THE NORTH OF US, NO SIDEWALK, NORTH OF THEM, NO SIDEWALK, NORTH OF THEM, 90-FOOT SIDEWALK, NO SIDEWALK.

I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME IN AND MAKE EVERYBODY DO IT AND I'D BE HAPPY TO PAY FOR IT.

I REALLY THINK IT LOOKS WEIRD TO HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT JUST ENDS.

>> WELL, I AGREE. THAT'S USUALLY WHY WE TRY TO DO IT WHERE IF YOU CAN'T DO IT AT THE TIME OR IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO IT AT THE TIME, AT LEAST PUT THE MONEY ASIDE SO THAT WHEN THE CITY COMES IN, BECAUSE SIDEWALKS ARE EXPENSIVE FOR THE CITY TO COME IN AND PUT IN MILES OF SIDEWALKS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

>> YEAH. I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT IT IN ESCROW.

I HAVE $80,000 IN ESCROW FOR A TURN SIGNAL ON A PROPERTY AND IT'S BEEN 18 YEARS.

IT'S BEEN IN ESCROW.

I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER GOING TO GET BUILT, BUT THEY TELL ME IT MIGHT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO PAY FOR IT, BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO MAYBE COME IN AND MAKE EVERYBODY DO IT.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT IT IN ESCROW AND THEN JUST HAVE IT SIT THERE BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE NEIGHBORS DOING IT.

I DON'T THINK THEY'D OPPOSE IT, BUT I DON'T SEE THEM DOING IT.

I DON'T SEE YOU GUYS REQUIRING IT.

>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THE CITY CAN'T JUST COME IN AND ARBITRARILY MAKE EVERYBODY DO IT.

>> I THINK I CAN MAYBE CONVINCE THEM, BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY THING.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT IT IN AND THEN HAVE IT JUST SIT THERE AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

>> OKAY.

>> YES.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

[01:05:01]

>> I GUESS I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE BARN IS COMING DOWN?

>> YES.

>> THERE'S A VARIANCE REQUESTING YOU TO RETAIN THE BARN.

DOES THIS REPRESENT A WITHDRAWAL OF THAT VARIANCE REQUESTS THEN?

>> NO. THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE IT BEFORE GETTING APPROVAL AND I DON'T WANT TO PAY TO START PLANS, THEY'RE FAIRLY EXPENSIVE, BEFORE I GET AN APPROVAL OF THE SPLIT.

I'M GOING TO OBVIOUSLY PUT THE HOUSE RIGHT WHERE THE BARN, I WOULDN'T HAVE A HORSE BARN 15 FEET FROM MY BACK PORCH.

THAT'S COMING OUT.

AS SOON AS THIS IS APPROVED, I'LL LIST IT FOR SALE.

IT'S A MODULAR ALUMINUM, IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE BARN, AND IT'LL BE GONE, I WOULD ASSUME WITHIN 90 DAYS OR 100 DAYS, BUT WE HAVE NO INTENT TO USE IT.

[NOISE] I HAVE A BARN CROSS THE STREET.

>> OKAY. I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION, GIVEN THE SIDEWALK DISCUSSION, ARE WE SAYING THAT THE SIDEWALK IS A REQUIREMENT BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE NOT TO ESCROW THE FUNDS? SIDEWALK AS A REQUIREMENT IS DEFINED BY CITY ORDINANCE.

>> YEAH. I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH BUILDING PLANS AND DON'T APPROVE THEM UNLESS I BUILD THE SIDEWALKS.

IF YOU REALLY WANT THE SIDEWALK THERE, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT.

>> WE WOULD LIKE THE SIDEWALK.

>> OKAY.

>> BECAUSE EVENTUALLY, IT'LL GET AROUND TO EVERYBODY WILL BE DOING IT, EVENTUALLY.

IT JUST TAKES TIME LIKE YOU SAID.

>> YEAH. I'D LIKE TO BE THERE WITH THE EVENTUALLY, BUT I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE THE ONLY GUY, BUT I'M FINE DOING IT.

WHEN WE BUILD THE HOUSE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SIDEWALK AND WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE FENCE TO MATCH EVERYBODY ELSE'S COLUMN FENCES AND SAME WITH ACROSS THE STREET.

TO ME, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AND HOW IT COMES OFF, AND IT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY I BOUGHT IT, IS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT SOMEONE COMING IN AND TRYING TO CHOP IT UP EVEN SMALLER BECAUSE I HAVE 10 ACRES ACROSS THE STREET AND [INAUDIBLE] OAK IS DEVELOPED IN THE RIGHT WAY, AND IT JUST WOULD TAKE ONE TWITCH TO THAT TO THEN LOOK AT SMALLER LOTS.

THEY'RE BIG PROPERTIES, YOU CAN GET A COUPLE TOGETHER AND STILL FALL WITHIN THE RIGHT ZONING, BUT TOTALLY CHANGED THE FEEL OF IT.

>> YEAH. WE APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING IT AS LARGE AS POSSIBLE RATHER THAN BREAKING IT UP INTO SMALLER PIECES.

>> YEAH.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> YEAH, THAT BARN, THE VARIANCE IS JUST SO I CAN GET THE PLAN STARTED, [OVERLAPPING] BUT THAT BARN IS GOING, THERE'S NO NEED FOR IT.

>> PROBABLY NEED TO NOTE THAT IN HERE.

ALL RIGHT. THIS ITEM REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AMONGST THE THE GROUP HERE? I GUESS WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THERE.

>> OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE ZA 21-0041, PLAT REVISION FOR LODGE 3R1 AND 3R2, TM HOOD NUMBER 706 EDITION, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED JUNE 3RD, 2021, AND THE REVISED PLAT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER 1 DATED JUNE 3RD, 2021.

GRANTING THE VARIANCE RELATING TO THE ACCESSORY BUILDING, BUT ACKNOWLEDGE THE APPLICANT'S INTENT TO REMOVE THE ACCESSORY BUILDING UPON SUBMISSION OF BUILDING PLANS.

>> VERY GOOD.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A SECOND. EVERYBODY CAST YOUR VOTES.

THAT PASSES 5-0.

CONGRATULATIONS THERE, SIR.

GOOD LUCK. WE WILL PROBABLY SEE YOU AGAIN SOON.

>> YES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING.

WE'LL ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

[NOISE]

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.