Nov 16, 2021 City Council

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY, I'M MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN, I WANT TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO THE

[1. Call to order]

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COME ON DOWN, SIR, AND IF YOU COULD RISE AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL GO OVER THE PLEDGES AFTER THE INVOCATION.

LET'S PRAY TOGETHER WHERE WE GIVE THANKS FOR THIS EVENING, AND WE GIVE THANKS FOR EVERY PERSON WHO SITS BEFORE US AND HAS RUN FOR ELECTED OFFICE, AND I PRAY FOR BLESSING UPON THEIR LIVES, WISDOM AND THEIR MINDS.

PASSION IN THEIR HEARTS AND STRENGTH AND HELP AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS.

WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES OR WE THANK YOU FOR GOOD FAMILIES THAT SUPPORT US WHEN WE CHOOSE TO RUN FOR ELECTED OFFICE AND WE PRAY BLESSING UPON THEIR CHILDREN.

AND WE PRAY THAT SHE WOULD GIVE THEM PEACE AND KNOWING THAT THEIR MOM AND DAD IS HELPING OUR CITY AND SERVING OUR CITY.

WE JUST PRAY FOR BLESSINGS IN THEIR HOMES, BUT WE THANK YOU FOR OUR TIME TOGETHER TONIGHT.

WE PRAY FOR EVERY AGENDA ITEM THAT WILL COME UP.

WE PRAY FOR PEACE AND WISDOM AND STRENGTH AND HELP FOR EVERY PRESENTER OR WE THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY AND WE PRAY TONIGHT THAT YOU WILL BLESS THIS MEETING WITH YOUR PRESENCE AND WITH WISDOM.

WE ASK THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

AMEN.

THANK YOU, PASTOR REED.

JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AND THE TEXAS PLEDGE OR THE TEXAS FLAG PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS STATE UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

[3. Tarrant County 2020 Coronavirus Pandemic Historical Book Presentation made by Tarrant County Clerk Mary Louise Nicholson]

SO FOR THAT, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE THE TARRANT COUNTY CLERK, MARY LOUISE NICHOLSON, FOR A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE BOOK.

COME ON UP.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PANDEMIC.

BOOK THAT TARRANT COUNTY WE PUT TOGETHER THAT WERE OFFERING.

WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT IN 2020 WAS SOMETHING WE'D NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC CHANGED EVERYTHING HOW WE LIVED, HOW WE WORKED GOVERNMENT, PRIVATE SECTOR AND HOW WE CONDUCTED OUR DAILY BUSINESS.

THE BACKGROUND AND PURPOSE OF THIS BOOK IS TO MEMORIALIZE THE EVENTS OF 2020 PANDEMIC THROUGH A NARRATIVE ILLUSTRATIVE THAT OCCURRED IN TARRANT COUNTY FOR OUR GENERATION TO REMEMBER AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.

IT WAS A SIX MONTH PROJECT THAT BEGAN IN MARCH OF 2020, WHEN I ASKED ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS WHO'S A PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER TO START TAKING PICTURES AND MEMORIALIZING WHAT DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH LOOKED LIKE.

THE OLD COURTHOUSE, THE STREETS, THE RESTAURANTS THAT STARTED CLOSING DOWN IN THE BUSINESSES, THE PPE STATIONS, THE SOCIAL DISTANCING, THINGS WE HAD TO DO AS COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND REALLY EVERYBODY.

THE PROJECT OFFICIALLY KICKED OFF IN DECEMBER 2020, AFTER I RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER COURT AND THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

WE WENT TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DFW SIGNATURE PRESS, A PROFESSIONAL WRITER AND A LOCAL BOOK DISTRIBUTOR, AND WE CREATED ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX PAGE BOOK.

GOVERNOR ABBOTT IS PART OF THE BOOK.

IN THE BEGINNING, HE DID THE INTRODUCTORY MESSAGE.

JUDGE WHITLEY DID THE PROLOGUE.

THE BOOK HAS ELECTED OFFICIALS, DEPARTMENT HEADS.

EVERYBODY THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING COUNTY GOVERNMENT THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC.

OUR TEAM ALSO SO VALUE IN TALKING ABOUT THE 1918 PANDEMIC.

SO IN THE BOOK, WE HAVE THE HISTORY OF THE 1918 PANDEMIC, AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS INTERESTING THAT IN 1918 THEY WERE RECOMMENDED TO WEAR CHIN SAILS AND THERE WAS A BIG CONTROVERSY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WORE THEM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T BELIEVE THEY'D BRING VALUE, SO IT SEEMS LIKE HISTORY ACTUALLY REPEATED ITSELF, AS WE ALL KNOW.

DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE CHIN SAILS I'M FASCINATED BY THIS.

THEY WERE HANDKERCHIEFS.

THEY WERE CHIN SAILS IS WHAT THEY CALLED THEIR FACE COVERINGS.

THIS BOOK ALSO CONTAINS A MEMORIAM PAGE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO REMEMBER IN OUR 41 CITIES.

BEFORE WE HAD THE OPTION OF HAVING A VACCINATION THAT WE LOST 3000 FAMILY MEMBERS, NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS AND COWORKERS BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A CURE FOR THIS.

TO HONOR EVERYBODY WHO LOST THEIR LIVES, OUR COMMITTEE WAS DETERMINED TO PUT THIS IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD CHERISH AND REMEMBER AND ALWAYS MAKE AVAILABLE THIS BOOK FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

WE CAPTURED THIS TIME IN OUR LIVES AND PRODUCE A LIMITED NUMBER OF THESE BOOKS.

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MY PROJECT IT GOES TO THE 41 CITIES, THEIR LIBRARIES, ALL THE UNIVERSITIES IN TARRANT COUNTY AND ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

IN THE CITIES, THE 41 CITIES, I THINK PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO OUR TEAM AND ALL THE WORK WE PUT INTO THIS IS THAT WE REACHED OUT TO DIFFERENT LIBRARIES AND WE REACHED OUT TO THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, AND WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD WANT THE ONLINE VERSION.

BUT ACTUALLY, THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS ASKED FOR TWO COPIES.

SO THIS BOOK THE TARRANT COUNTY PANDEMIC BOOK IS NOW IN THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS.

SO WITH THAT, IT IS A PRIVILEGE ON BEHALF OF TARRANT COUNTY TO OFFER THE TARRANT COUNTY 2020 PANDEMIC.

BOOK TO THE SOUTHLAKE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND TO YOUR LIBRARIAN.

CINDY, I CAN'T.

I DON'T KNOW.

HOW DO YOU SAY HER LAST NAME? FLUTTER, FLUTTER, FLUTTER AND I MET HER EARLIER.

THIS HAS COME ON UP.

SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AND I APPRECIATE IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GRAB A PICTURE.

YEAH, PLEASE DO.

I THINK THE COUNCIL IS COUNCIL GOING TO COME DOWN FOR A PICTURE? OK? PICTURE TIME WE GOT A FEW.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. NICHOLSON.

HOPEFULLY IT'S ANOTHER 100 YEARS BEFORE WE WRITE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE BOOKS.

BUT WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO WORK SESSION ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS

[4. Honors and Recognition: Proclamation for the North Texas Performing Arts]

SO IS MS. LINDSEY LETTERER HERE? COME ON DOWN MS. LETTERER, SO I BELIEVE YOU ARE.

YOU'RE THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE YOUTH THEATERS.

AND MAYBE BEFORE WE DO THE PROCLAMATION, IF YOU COULD TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THE PRODUCTION? ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS LINDSAY LETTERER AND I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF YOUTH THEATERS AT NORTH TEXAS PERFORMING ARTS.

WE ARE A NONPROFIT CHILDREN'S THEATER FOUNDED 30 YEARS AGO.

OUR MISSION BEING TO DEVELOP THE CHARACTER OF YOUTH THROUGH QUALITY PERFORMING ARTS, EDUCATION AND FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT, AND OUR VISION IS TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM ACCESSIBLE TO ALL FAMILIES.

AND THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO EXPAND INTO SOUTHLAKE AND TPPA.

WE BELIEVE THAT THEATER CHANGES LIVES.

AND SO NOT ONLY DO WE TEACH SINGING, ACTING AND DANCING, BUT WE TEACH OUR TEN CHARACTERS WHICH START WITH TEAMWORK AND END WITH LOVING ONE ANOTHER.

SO WE WANT TO INVITE YOU ALL TO OUR PRODUCTION, OUR INAUGURAL SOUTHLAKE PRODUCTION OF ANNIE JUNIOR.

IT HAS BEEN REHEARSING AT DANA'S DANCE ACADEMY IN SOUTHLAKE AND PERFORMS NOV.

18TH THROUGH 21ST AT GRAPEVINES PALACE ARTS THEATER.

WE HAVE YOUTH AGES SIX THROUGH 18 FROM SOUTHLAKE GRAPEVINE AND THE SURROUNDING CITIES PERFORMING IN THIS PRODUCTION, AND WE HAVE BEEN GIVING COMPLIMENTARY TICKETS TO THOSE IN THIS AREA.

WE ALSO HAVE AUDITIONS COMING UP FOR OUR SECOND PRODUCTION, FROZEN JUNIOR THIS FRIDAY.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR PROGRAM AND WE ARE EXCITED TO PARTNER WITH YOU ALL IN SOUTHLAKE.

ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, IT'S PRETTY EXCITING HOW MANY KIDS ARE IN THIS PRODUCTION TOTAL.

WE HAVE 32 IN THIS PRODUCTION.

AND NOVEMBER 18TH THROUGH 21ST?

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OK, AND HOW CAN WE GET TICKETS FOR ANYBODY WATCHING? HOW CAN THEY GET TICKETS? ABSOLUTELY.

SO YOU CAN GET TICKETS AT NTPA.ORG AND SELECT SOUTHLAKE, AND I WOULD INVITE ANYONE HERE TO ATTEND FOR FREE WITH THE CODE TOMORROW.

TOMORROW DEAL.

OK, WELL, HOPEFULLY SOME OF US CAN MAKE IT OUT.

WE'LL CERTAINLY PROMOTE IT ON FACEBOOK AND I HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE A PACKED HOUSE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE GOT A PROCLAMATION HERE, SO I'M GOING TO READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IN THE LAST ONE.

ALL THE GOOD STUFF.

SO WHEREAS NORTH TEXAS PERFORMING ARTS IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO DEVELOPING THE CHARACTER OF YOUTH THROUGH QUALITY PERFORMING ARTS, EDUCATION AND FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT FOR 30 YEARS WITH A VISION TO MAKE THE PERFORMING ARTS DESIRED AND AVAILABLE TO ALL YOUTH.

NOW, THEREFORE, I'M MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN, THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 20TH, 2021 AS NORTH TEXAS PERFORMING ARTS DAY IN SOUTHLAKE.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO IF IT'S OK WITH YOU, WE'LL COME DOWN AND GIVE YOU THE PROCLAMATION AND TAKE A PICTURE.

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OK, CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE AWESOME PRODUCTIONS.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO WORK SESSION ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS RECOGNITION

[5. Recognition of Tree City U.S.A. and National Arbor Day]

I'M GUESSING, MADELEINE, YOU'RE GOING TO TELL US HOW MANY YEARS IN A ROW WE'VE BEEN TREE CITY, USA.

WE'RE OVER 20.

ALL RIGHT.

I WON'T STEAL YOUR THUNDER.

SO MADELINE AND JESSICA WHY DON'T YOU TO COME ON UP AND TELL US ALL ABOUT TREE CITY USA DESIGNATION AND NATIONAL ARBOR DAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

AS YOU KNOW, TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO CELEBRATE NATIONAL ARBOR DAY AND SOUTHLAKE DESIGNATION AS TREE CITY USA.

THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE WAS RECERTIFIED AS A TREE CITY USA COMMUNITY IN 2020, WHICH MARKS 24 YEARS OF MAINTAINING EXCELLENCE IN URBAN FORESTRY.

TREE CITY USA IS A PROGRAM THAT HELPS PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK FOR COMMUNITIES TO MANAGE AND EXPAND THEIR PUBLIC TREES, WHILE ALSO CELEBRATING THE IMPORTANCE OF URBAN TREE CANOPY AND RAISING AWARENESS OF IMPROVING CARE FOR THESE VITAL TREES TO QUALIFY FOR TREE CITY USA DESIGNATION.

A COMMUNITY MUST MEET FOUR CORE STANDARDS OF SOUND URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT.

THE FIRST IS MAINTAINING A TREE BOARD OR DEPARTMENT.

SECOND IS ESTABLISHING A COMMUNITY TREE ORDINANCE.

THIRD IS SPENDING AT LEAST TWO DOLLARS PER CAPITA ON URBAN FORESTRY, AND THE THIRD IS CELEBRATING ARBOR DAY THROUGH A PROCLAMATION OR RECOGNITION.

SO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE HELPS ENSURE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE SITE PLANNING.

THE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE IS TO FURTHER THE PRESERVATION OF MATURE TREES AND NATIONAL AND NATURAL AREAS, PROTECT TREES DURING CONSTRUCTION, FACILITATE SITE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE LONG TERM VIABILITY OF EXISTING TREES, AND TO CONTROL THE REMOVAL OF TREES WHEN NECESSARY.

SOUTHLAKE CURRENT TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 585-E, AND ALL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS MUST COMPLY WITH THIS ORDINANCE.

ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE CITY ALSO ADOPTED A TREE CONSERVATION MAP.

THIS MAP IS A REPRESENTATION OF ALL PROPERTIES WHERE EXISTING TREES WERE PRESERVED, AS PART AS A FORMALLY APPROVED TREE CONSERVATION PLAN PRIOR TO DEVELOPMENT OR ZONING OF THE PROPERTY'S REMOVAL OR ALTERATION OF EXISTING TREES ON THE PRESENTED REPRESENTED PROPERTIES IS REGULATED BY THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

BACK IN NOVEMBER 2020, THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE HOSTED A TREMENDOUS SCAVENGER HUNT, AND THIS WAS TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO ENJOY THE OUTDOORS IN A SAFE AND HEALTHY MANNER.

THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE SELECTED 12 TREES SCATTERED AMONG THE SOUTHLAKE PARKS AND REQUESTED THAT CONTESTANTS FIND THE SPECIFIED TREE.

TAKE A SELFIE IN FRONT OF IT AND SEND IT TO THE CENTER.

SEND IT TO THE CITY AS AN ENTRY.

AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE EVENT, OVER 100 CONTESTANTS PARTICIPATED IN THE SCAVENGER HUNT AND FIVE LUCKY WINNERS WERE SELECTED AT RANDOM AND RECEIVED A TREE TO PLANT IN THEIR YARD.

FINALLY, WE HAVE THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

WE OFFER NUMEROUS LANDSCAPE SERVICES, FROM EDUCATION AND PRESERVATION TO PERMITTING AND

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KEITH MARTIN, SOUTHLAKE LANDSCAPE ADMINISTRATOR, ASSIST WITH IT ALL.

KEITH PROVIDES PUBLIC CONSULTING ON THE CONDITION, PRUNING DISEASE OR INSECT INFESTATION OF TREES.

HAZARD EVALUATION AND HOW TO CORRECT PROBLEMS WITH TREES.

HE ALSO PROVIDES HOMEOWNERS WITH ADVICE FOR LANDSCAPING THEIR PROPERTIES, WHICH OTHER CITIES MAY NOT DO ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

KEITH WORKS WITH DEVELOPERS, BUILDERS, CONTRACTORS AND CONSULTANTS TO PRESERVE TREES AND INSTALL CORRECT LANDSCAPING ON PROPERTIES THAT THEY MAY BE DEVELOPING OR WORKING ON.

HE ALSO REVIEWS ALL DEVELOPMENT PLANS, BUILDING PLANS, CIVIL PLANS AND ASSOCIATED PERMITS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE, APPLICABLE ZONING REGULATIONS AND STORM WATER POLLUTION PREVENTION REGULATIONS.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADELEINE.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? WELL, WE LOVE IT.

OH, GOOD, TREE CITY USA IS ALL GOOD.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR MAKING A BIG DEAL OF IT AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY AGAIN AND ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

THIS IS REALLY FUN.

WE HAVE KEITH MARTIN HERE AND COURTNEY BLEVINS AS WELL FOR A PROCLAMATION AND TO TAKE A PICTURE AS WELL.

PERFECT, KEITH.

YOU GUYS WANT US TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

OH, YEAH.

WELL, YOU ALL, COME ON UP WHEN YOU DO A PROCLAMATION, WE'LL TAKE SOME PICTURES.

OK, THANK YOU BOTH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

THIS IS GREAT.

SO WHEREAS IN 1872, JAY STERLING MORTON PROPOSED TO THE NEBRASKA BOARD OF AGRICULTURE THAT A SPECIAL DAY BE SET ASIDE FOR THE PLANTING AND NURTURING OF TREES.

AND WHEREAS THIS HOLIDAY, CALLED ARBOR DAY, WAS FIRST OBSERVED WITH THE PLANTING OF MORE THAN A MILLION TREES IN NEBRASKA AND WHEREAS IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE, WE ARE CELEBRATING THE 148TH ANNIVERSARY OF ARBOR DAY, WHICH IS NOW OBSERVED THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND THE WORLD.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ADMIRE JOHN HUFFMAN ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, URGE ALL RESIDENTS TO CELEBRATE ARBOR DAY IN NOVEMBER AND TO SUPPORT EFFORTS TO PROTECT OUR TREES AND WOODLANDS, AND TO PLANT AND CARE FOR TREES, TO GLADDEN THE HEART AND PROMOTE THE WELL-BEING OF THIS AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.

I APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL'S HARD WORK AND WELL, WE'LL GET A PICTURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS HER

[6. Southlake Business Spotlight - Westin Hotel]

TAKE IT AWAY, SIR.

WE DO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING TODAY ON THE WESTERN HOTEL.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW AND SO THAT I DON'T FORGET AFTER THIS BRIEF VIDEO, THE WESTIN IS INVITING, OF COURSE, ALL OF COUNCIL TO THEIR GRAND OPENING TOMORROW AT 4:30 P.M.

TO SEVEN P.M.

LIVE MUSIC, GREAT DRINKS AND GREAT FOOD FROM THEIR CHEF THAT THEY RECENTLY HIRED.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL SHOW THE VIDEO TO YOU ALL.

HELLO, MY NAME IS CHAD PATTON, I'M YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER HERE IN SOUTHLAKE, I'M HERE WITH MY GOOD FRIEND RANDY WILLIAMS AND ALSO ON CITY COUNCIL AND OUR NEWEST NEIGHBOR AND GOOD FRIEND TODD MOMBERG WITH THE WESTIN.

TODD, WELCOME TO SOUTHLAKE.

THANK YOU.

IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.

VERY EXCITED.

WE'RE THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE HERE.

WE KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

IF YOU WOULD SHARE WITH OUR AUDIENCE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS HOTEL.

TELL US, HOW MANY ROOMS DO YOU GUYS HAVE KNOWS ABOUT YOUR MEETING SPACE AND HOW THAT WORKS OUT FOR EVENTS AND THE LIKE? WOULD YOU ALWAYS? ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE'VE GOT 261 ROOMS HERE ON SITE.

ALL RIGHT.

OF THOSE TWENTY SEVEN SUITES, A LOT OF SUITES IN HOTEL.

WE HAVE ONE THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF NEW SPACE.

THE EVENT SPACE, ACTUALLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT BALLROOMS, OUR LARGEST ROOMS, EIGHT THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

SO WE'RE GOING IN TERMS.

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SO BIG SPACE.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER ROOMS THAT ARE THREE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

THEN YOU'VE GOT A BALL ROOM ON OUR SECOND FLOOR FEATURES FLOOR TO CEILING WINDOWS ACROSS OVERLOOKS OLD CITY SOUTHLAKE TOILETS, ESSENTIALLY.

OK, SO AND THEN OUTDOORS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE EIGHT THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT SYNTHETIC GRASS IN THAT LAWN WITH A BUILT IN STAGE.

OH, SO YES, WE DID HAVE ENOUGH TURF FIELD.

SO YEAH, SO IT SOUNDS TO ME, TODD, AS IF YOU COULD PRETTY MUCH ACCOMMODATE A SMALL VENUE TO A LARGE WEDDING, TO A LARGE CORPORATE EVENT AND MAYBE HOLD SIMULTANEOUS EVENTS AT ONE TIME HERE? THAT'S OKAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND THE DESIGN.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOCATED IN THE GRAY AREA HERE OF A LOT OF REALLY GREAT CORPORATIONS THAT SET UP IN 2014.

SO WE HAD TO BUILD A SPACE IN THE ROOMS WERE TANGIBLE.

SO I KNOW YOU JUST MENTIONED FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND EARLIER WHEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE.

OH, I KNOW YOU'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE HOTEL AND THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCEPT.

TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND WHAT YOU GUYS STRIVE TO ACCOMPLISH.

SURE.

YEAH, YOU BET.

SO WE ARE VERY UNIQUE.

WE BROUGHT ON A PHENOMENAL EXECUTIVE CHEF, DENVER.

WHO'S KENNARD? SHE WON TOP CHEF AT FORT WORTH 2019.

SHE'S BEEN ON FOOD NETWORK NETWORK SEVERAL TIMES.

SHE IS A VERY CREATIVE AND PHENOMENAL EXECUTIVE CHEF.

SO WITH HER IDEA BEHIND THERE, WE ALSO GOT SHE GOT ON A COUPLE OF REALLY POWERFUL SOUS CHEFS TO HELP CREATE THAT.

SO NOT ONLY AT OUR RESTAURANT YELVERTON, BUT IN OUR HER BAR HERE.

GREAT MENU ACTIONS RIGHT THERE.

THEN ALSO WITH OUR BANQUET MEMBERS HOTELS BANQUETS TYPICALLY HAVE, WELL, IT SEEMS TO BE KIND OF NEAR EACH OTHER HOTEL, THE HOTEL A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAVE.

WHAT MAKES OURS VERY UNIQUE IS THAT CHEF, CAN I NOT ONLY TAKE SOME OF THOSE THAT WE CONSIDER THE INGREDIENTS THAT SHE'S TO PUT IN THE RESTAURANT, [INAUDIBLE] CAN CREATE MORE REST OF THE RESTAURANT FEEL AS FAR AS THE QUALITY OF FOOD INSIDE OF OUR VEHICLES.

WELL, THAT'S.

IT'S FUNNY YOU CAN HEAR NOISE AROUND US BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A FINAL TOUCHES TO THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE OPENING IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, HAVING A GRAND OPENING AND WITHOUT GETTING TOO MUCH INTO YOUR BUSINESS.

HOW'S IT GOING? AS FAR AS BOOKINGS IN CORPORATE AMERICA AND LOCAL TRAVELERS ARE STARTING TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO KNOCK ON THE DOOR OF THE WESTIN SOUTHLAKE.

SURE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A SLOW ROLL.

I GET QUITE HONESTLY, VERY BEGINNING BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AFFECTED EVERY BUSINESS, RIGHT? BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN NICE TO SEE THINGS START TO COME BACK A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ONLY I JUST A WESTIN, BUT WE'RE WESTIN SOUTHLAKE HAS CERTAINLY GIVEN US A LITTLE ADDED BOOST.

SO I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

ARE YOU SEEING A LOT OF THINGS OR A LOT OF BUSINESS OR RECOVERY, NOT ONLY JUST REACH OUT TO FIND OUT WHICH WE HAVE,[INAUDIBLE].

SO WE'VE GOT A 2020 TO A CERTAIN [INAUDIBLE].

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING IN.

A LOT OF GREAT MARKETS THAT ARE GOING TO GET THE WESTIN BRAND WILL ATTRACT A LOT OF THAT CLIENTELE.

MY CORPORATE CLIENTS THAT WE THAT WE LOVE TO HAVE.

YOU WERE MENTIONING SOME OF THE INDUSTRIES YOU START TO HEAR FROM.

CAN YOU SHARE THAT WITH? YEAH, YOU BET.

SO I'M A LOT OF PHARMACEUTICAL COME THROUGH A LOT OF THE MEDICAL DEVICE ON MAJOR FINANCIAL FIRMS. SO ALL OF THE REGULATORY BUSINESS THAT WE'D LOVE TO SEE.

SURE, THAT'S FANTASTIC.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US BEFORE WE WRAP THINGS UP HERE? YEAH, YOU BET.

WELL, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT IS THE WORD OF WHAT MAKES THIS HOTEL VERY UNIQUE IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY LOCALLY UNPREPARED.

VERY RARELY, WE EVER SEE A HOTEL ON THIS SIZE, ESPECIALLY BIG PREMIUM LESS THAN THE LOCALLY OWNED.

YEAH, YOU KNOW, OUR CEO IS ACTUALLY STOPPED BY PRESIDENT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE MID 80S, WHICH IS DEFINITELY THE OTHER LARGE INVESTORS ARE ALSO SOUTHLAKE, COLLEYVILLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE TOP [INAUDIBLE].

JUST ALL THE LITTLE TOUCHES OF THE OFFICE.

WESTIN IS A PHENOMENAL BRAND TO BEGIN WITH.

BUT THEN YOU TAKE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LOCAL HERE THAT THIS IS NOT JUST IN THE HOTEL, IN THEIR BACKYARD.

THIS IS WHERE THEY LIVE, SO THEY KNOW THEY WANT TO MAKE IT.

AND IT SHOWS THROUGHOUT THE RESTAURANT THAT BAR STAFF AND JUST THE DESIGN.

SO THINK WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU GUYS OPEN AND WHAT [INAUDIBLE].

YOU.

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST, GUYS.

WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE WESTIN.

THANK YOU.

VERY NICE, WELL DONE.

WELL, WE'RE ALL SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE WESTERN CHAD RANEY.

YOU GUYS WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ANYTHING, PARTICULARLY THAT YOU GUYS SEE WHAT WE'RE IN STORE FOR TOMORROW.

YEAH, I MEAN, I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, ECHO THE VIDEO.

IT'S IT'S A REMARKABLE FACILITY.

I KNOW MOST OF US HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO TOUR IT ALREADY.

IT'S GOING TO IT JUST ADDS ANOTHER HOSPITALITY PIECE TO OUR CITY.

WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT NICHES NOW, YOU KNOW, WITH THE HILTON AND THE CAMBRIA AND THE THE DELTA AND NOW THE WEST AND SO FORTH.

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SO IT'S FABULOUS.

WHAT WAS FASCINATING TO ME, JUST AS A SIDEBAR IN CHAD, TOO, I THINK, WAS THAT ALMOST ALL OF THE FURNITURE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THERE WHEN THEY OPEN TOMORROW IS ACTUALLY LEASED FURNITURE BECAUSE ALL OF THEIR FURNITURE IS ON THE DOCKS IN CALIFORNIA WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IN AMERICA AND CAN'T BE SHIPPED.

SO IT'LL BE FASCINATING WHEN THEY GET ALL THEIR STUFF IN.

BUT THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF ACTUALLY RENTING FURNITURE THAT LOOKS JUST FANTASTIC OVER THERE.

SO IT'S EXCITING PLACE.

IT'S AWESOME.

YEAH, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I REALLY HAVE TO COMMEND THE THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS HOTEL.

YOU KNOW, THIS THING GOT APPROVED BEFORE I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL AS I'M WRAPPING UP MY MY TENURE HERE, SIX YEARS LATER, WE'RE FINALLY OPENING THE DOORS TO THIS HOTEL.

SO IT REALLY IS AN ACTIVE COMMITMENT TO BE ABLE TO JUST PERSEVERE THROUGH THESE ECONOMIC CHALLENGES AND JUST THE DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGES THEY HAD WITH THIS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD TO CHANGE THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT THAT WAS APPROVED AND AND SO I'M JUST REALLY PROUD OF THE OWNERSHIP.

REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS, THIS BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY AS AN ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY AND EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO PARTAKE IN SOME OF THE FESTIVITIES TOMORROW EVENING AND CELEBRATE WITH THIS OWNERSHIP AND CELEBRATE THIS, THIS NEW ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO BE FUN.

YEAH, WELL SAID.

IT REALLY IS A CELEBRATION, A CULMINATION OF A LOT OF HARD WORK FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY ON THE DAIS AND EVERYBODY IN THE CROWD AT THE GRAND OPENING TOMORROW.

THANKS, DANIEL.

APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS

[7. Discuss all items on tonight's agenda. No action will be taken and each item will be considered during the Regular Session]

I'LL READ THROUGH THESE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO BRIEF PRESENTATIONS.

DIRECTOR BAKER CORRECT AT THE END.

SO ITEM 4A IS APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 2ND 2021 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ITEM 4B APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-049 CASTING VOTES FOR THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ITEMS FOR 4C ZA21-0082 PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR PEMBERTON, WHICH IS AT SIX 603 NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE.

ITEM 4D ORDNANCE NUMBER 480-789ZA21-0089.

FIRST READING, ZONING, CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR 1049 SHADY OAKS DRIVE.

ITEM 4E SV21-002 SIGN VARIANTS FOR FLORENCE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, LOCATED AT 205 HAROLD DRIVE .

ITEM 4F, APPROVE PURCHASE OF PARK MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT FROM KUBOTA TRACTOR CORP.

AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 55 THOUSAND DOLLARS AND ITEM 4G APPROVE PURCHASE OF LANDSCAPE AND IRRIGATION SUPPLIES FROM SITE ONE LANDSCAPE SUPPLY IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 120 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ITEM 4H, AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURES FOR ELECTRICAL SERVICE WITH ED'S ELECTRICAL SERVICE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 110 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ITEM 4I APPROVE PURCHASE OF PARK MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT FROM JOHN DEERE CO.

IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 103 THOUSAND DOLLARS ITEM FOR J.

APPROVED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH PARKHILL INC FOR DESIGN AND ENGINEERING OF BICENTENNIAL PARK PICKLEBALL COMPLEX.

I LOVE IT FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $150,000.

ITEM 4K, APPROVED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH RPG DESIGN GROUP INC FOR DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVICES.

THE BOB JONES NATURE CENTER AND PRESERVE BARN PROJECT FOR AN AMOUNT.

NOT TO EXCEED $60,000 AND MORE ON THAT TO COME.

WE GOT SOME FUN STUFF ON THE BARN PROJECT ITEM FOR A APPROVE AGREEMENT ON SAND CREEK POST AND BEAM INC DBA TIMBERLINE FOR THE PURCHASE OF A CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE BOB JONES NATURE CENTER AND PRESERVE BARN PROJECT IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 260 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ITEM 4M, AMEND THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO SAY OH PAVING COMPANY FOR WHITE CHAPEL IMPROVEMENT FROM EMERALD BOULEVARD TO HIGHLAND STREET, AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $15,660,670.

ITEM 4N, AUTHORIZED EXPENDITURE WITH KRUGER INTERNATIONAL FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF CUBICLES IN TOWN HALL AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO ADD A COUPLE ITEMS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM 7B ORDINANCE FOUR NUMBER 480-643EZA21-0084 FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR WEST ELM, WHICH I KNOW MY WIFE IS SUPER EXCITED ABOUT.

ITEM 7C.

ALSO, ORDINANCE NUMBER 1075-C FIRST READING AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN.

AND KEN, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU FOR A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THAT HERE IN A SECOND, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HEAR 9A ALONG WITH 7B, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO MOVE 9B TO CONSENT, WHICH IS SB 21-0024 SIGN VARIANCE[INAUDIBLE].

SO KEN, IF YOU COULD RUN THROUGH 7C BRIEFLY COUNCIL MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AND THEN ALSO 9B, WHICH IS THE SIGN VARIANCE FOR [INAUDIBLE].

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ITEM 7C IS THE FIRST READING ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN.

AS CITY COUNCIL KNOWS, THE WAY THAT WE UTILIZE OUR MASTER PLANS IN THE CITY IS THAT THESE PLANS HAVE PRIORITIES SET FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS, AND THE COUNCIL STAFF USES THOSE PRIORITIES SET IN THE PLANS TO ESTABLISH ITS CAPITAL PROGRAMS IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM, AS WELL AS ITS WORK PLANS AND BUDGET FUNDING FOR DEPARTMENTS.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT IS TO LOOK AT OUR SIDEWALK SYSTEM CURRENTLY ON OUR PATHWAYS MAP.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PRIORITY SEGMENTS IDENTIFIED ON THE PATHWAYS MAP.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT SIDEWALKS ARE CRITICAL TO THE COMMUNITY THERE IN OUR CITIZEN SURVEY.

THEY ALWAYS RANK AS A HIGH PRIORITY WITH OUR CITIZENS.

AS SUCH, STAFF WANTED TO GO IN AND LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCT ABILITY OF THE SIDEWALK SEGMENTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS HIGH PRIORITIES ON THESE MAPS, SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO CONSTRUCTING SIDEWALK SEGMENTS SOONER.

WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF MINOR ROADWAY PROJECT THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THE MOBILITY PLAN AS PROJECTS FOR CONSIDERATION IN FUTURE SIPS.

AS COUNCIL KNOWS, WE PROVIDE SIDEWALKS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGH THE CITY CIP PROGRAM.

WE ALSO BUILD AS PART OF ROADWAY PROJECTS.

WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD IS BEING CONSTRUCTED, HAS SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.

THE RECENTLY CONCLUDED ZENNER RUCKER ROAD THAT PORTION OF VILLAGE CENTER WAS BUILT HAS SIDEWALKS ON IT WHEN BRUMBAUGH WAS BUILT THAT WILL HAVE SIDEWALKS ALSO ON THE ON THE ROADWAY SEGMENT.

ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE NEW SIDEWALKS TO BE BUILT WITH ANY NEW COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL.

WITHIN OUR PARKS, WE HAVE PATHWAYS CONSTRUCTED.

WE ALSO DO THESE INFILL PROJECTS THAT YOU WILL SEE ON THE CONTINENTAL PROJECT.

FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE DOING ONE ON ONE 14 CURRENTLY AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MATCHING FUNDS.

SO THERE'S NUMBERS OF WAYS THAT THE CITY APPROACHES BUILDING SIDEWALKS IN THE CITY.

IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTIVE OF EVALUATION, THIS IS A CRITERIA THAT WE LOOKED AT TO SCORE ALL THE HIGH PRIORITY SEGMENTS IDENTIFIED ON PATHWAYS MAPS.

THEY INCLUDED CONNECTIVITY TO OTHER SIDEWALK SYSTEMS LOCATIONS NEAR PARK OR SCHOOL.

AVAILABLE RIGHT AWAY WOULD REQUIRE TREE REMOVAL.

UTILITY RELOCATION.

ANY BRIDGE OR ELEVATED STRUCTURES OR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND WE TOOK ALL THE HIGH PRIORITIES ON THE PATHWAYS MAP AND WE GAVE IT A SCORE AND BASED OUR TIER RANKING.

TIER ONE, TWO OR THREE.

BASED ON THAT, TIER ONE IS A 1-3 YEAR PERIOD, TIER TWO, 4-7, AND THEN TIER THREE IS OUT OUTSIDE OF SEVEN.

WE ALSO ASKED THE CITIZENS PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK TO OUR PRIORITY LIST AND YOU SAW IN YOUR PACKET DELIVERED LAST WEEK, WE DID RECEIVE QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK ON QUICKLY GO OVER SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE CITIZENS PROVIDED THE STAFF WITH SOME FEEDBACK ON.

THIS IS JUST A MAP SHOWING OUR LOCATIONS OF OUR TIER ONE RANKED PROJECTS.

I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THESE.

THESE INCLUDE AND AGAIN, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE THINK WE CAN GET BUILT IN A ONE TO THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD THAT WE'RE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS PRIORITY SEGMENTS ON YOUR PATHWAYS MAP.

THE UNION CHURCH.

THERE ARE GAPS IN THAT SIDEWALK SYSTEM.

THIS WILL PROVIDE A CONNECTION POINT FROM BACK TOWARDS DAVIS TO THE CHESAPEAKE PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS THERE.

THESE NEXT TWO PROJECTS ARE IN THE MIXED USE INDUSTRIAL OFFICE DEVELOPMENT JUST TO THE NORTH OF DRAGON STADIUM.

SILICON DRIVE, IT WOULD COMPLETE A SEGMENT DOWN TO EXCHANGE.

IF YOU GO TO A DRAGON'S GAME DAY, YOU REALIZE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE WALKING FROM THIS AREA TO THE STADIUM.

THIS CREATE A SAFE CONNECTION TO THE SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS TO DRAGON STADIUM ON THE WEST SIDE OF SILICON DRIVE.

ALSO, NOLAN DRIVE, ANOTHER FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD SEGMENT THAT WE CAN COMPLETE IN A VERY SHORT TIME PERIOD.

ALSO, BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WALK DURING LUNCH AND DURING THE DAY MIGHT BE SURPRISED, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF WALKABILITY IN THAT AREA.

SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL, WITH THE NEW BRIDGE COMPLETION, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE COLLEYVILLE SIDEWALK CONNECTION THAT GOES TO THEIR TOWN CENTER.

THIS IS A SEGMENT WHERE WE DO HAVE RIGHT AWAY THAT WE CAN BRING A CONNECTION UP TO THE NORTH TO CONTINENTAL AND THAT WOULD TIE INTO CONTINENTAL, THAT WOULD GET US ALL THE WAY TO KIMBALL.

AND ONCE AGAIN, KIMBALL WOULD GO ALL THE WAY TO 1709, THEN ALL THE WAY ON 1709, BACK TO BYRON NELSON.

IT'LL CREATE A MAJOR LOOP INTERNALLY TO THE CITY, AND SO THAT'S BEEN RANKED NUMBER ONE.

DAVIS BOULEVARD IS A PROJECT THAT WOULD ALLOW CONNECTIVITY TO THE

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THE NORTH DO HAVE THE RIGHT WAY FOR THAT SUNRISE RANCH.

THIS CAME OUT OF THE ROAD.

THIS CAME OUT OF THE PARK PLAN THE SIDEWALKS FOR SOME REASON.

WE'RE JUST BUILT TO THE END OF THIS LOT HERE.

THIS IS YOUR CLARETON RANCH PARK, AND THERE'S A CONNECTION SIDEWALK THAT GOES FROM SUNRISE SUNRISE RANCH ROAD ALL THE WAY OVER TO WHITE CHAPEL, WHICH CONNECTS INTO BOB JONES.

AND SO THIS WILL COMPLETE THIS CONNECTION, AND THIS IS ALL FAIRLY IN EITHER RIGHT AWAY OR CITY PROPERTY.

BE AN EASY CONNECTION TO MAKE.

BYRON NELSON, THERE'S A GAP THERE.

THIS IS THE WE HAVE THE SOUTHLAKE, THE OLD SENIOR CENTER SITE, THE CITY PROPERTY.

YOU GOT [INAUDIBLE] ELEMENTARY.

THIS WOULD PROVIDE A CONNECTION TO THE 1709 SYSTEM.

THIS IS THE 114 SEGMENT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE PROJECT CURRENTLY ACROSS THE CHESAPEAKE PROPERTY TO THE WEST THAT CONNECTS INTO THE GATEWAY SIDEWALK SYSTEM.

THIS WOULD GET SOME INFILL COMPLETION IN THIS AREA AND THEN CONNECT BACK TO GRAPEVINE TO THE EAST, AND THAT WOULD HAVE A NICE SEGMENT FROM THE 1709 BRIDGE ALL THE WAY ALMOST TO THE CARROLL BRIDGE AND A SMALL SEGMENT RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER THAT WE NEED TO FINISH OFF WOULD BE A NICE, LINEAR PATH.

AND SO THESE WERE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS IN IN THE PATHWAYS MAP AS A TIER ONE, TIER TWO, TIER THREE.

WE ALSO DID PUT OUT SOME COMMUNICATION, PUT SOME INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE, AND WE DID GET A LOT OF INFORMATION BACK FROM CITIZENS REGARDING SIDEWALKS.

A COUPLE OF PROJECTS WHERE WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK.

ONE WAS A RANDOL MILL CONNECTION POINT ACROSS TIMBER HILLS TO THE SOUTH.

THERE IS A LOT OF WALKABILITY TO THE NORTH TO DOVE INTO THE WEST LAKE SIDEWALK SYSTEM.

WESTLAKE ALSO HAS A PARK PLAN JUST TO THE WEST OF RANDOL MILL, AND THERE'S A AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP, WE'RE CONNECTING TO A LARGER SYSTEM THAT THAT IS UTILIZED IF THIS SIDEWALK WAS BUILT.

YOU HAVE TO BE CONNECTED TO THE WESTLAKE PROPERTY.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT IT ONLY BE BUILT IF WE CAN COME TO AGREEMENT WITH WEST LAKE THAT WE THEY WOULD EXTEND EITHER TO THE SOUTH OR WE DO A CROSSING INTO THE PARK AREA TO GET THAT ACCESS.

OTHERWISE, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO BUILD IT TO OUR CITY LIMITS AND WE WOULDN'T GET THAT CONNECTION UP TO DOVE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE GAP HERE.

SO WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE? SO RIGHT NORTH OF THAT BLUE LINE IS THE CONNECTION ON WESTLAKE PROPERTY? YES, SIR.

RIGHT HERE THIS IF YOU CAN SEE THE ARROW ON THE SCREEN, YEAH, THAT'S THAT INTERSECT.

KIND OF WEIRD THREE WAY INTERSECTION, RIGHT? THAT TRIANGLE.

IT'S CALLED RESIDENTIAL.

THERE'S A LOT OF SIDEWALKS THERE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WALK AROUND, RIGHT? YEAH.

YES, SIR.

IS THERE ANY REASON WESTLAKE MAY SAY NO TO THAT? I THINK THEY'RE OPEN TO THE IDEA ABOUT IT, BUT WE'LL WE'LL NEED TO.

WE NEED TO FURTHER THOSE DISCUSSIONS, I BELIEVE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS.

I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST WILL BE AMENABLE TO THAT SORT OF THING.

SO JUST KEEP US POSTED ON THAT DISCUSSION, PLEASE.

YES, SIR.

EAST ROAD PROJECT IS A VERY POPULAR PROJECT.

THIS IS WOULD EXTEND THERE IS A PORTION OF SIDEWALK THAT'S BUILT AT THE CARROLL ROUNDABOUT.

THIS WOULD EXTEND THE PROJECT TO KIMBALL AND WHERE YATES GROCERY IS LOCATED.

IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT CONNECTION POINT, YOU COULD GET INTO THE GRAPEVINE SYSTEM AND THAT WOULD GET YOU INTO THE HORSESHOE TRAIL THAT WOULD GET YOU ALL THE WAY UP DOVE TO DOVE LOOP REALLY ALL THE WAY TO THE HOTEL IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO WALK, SO IT'D BE A CONNECTION.

THIS IS A ESTIMATED AS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECT DUE TO DRAINAGE AND TREE REMOVAL.

IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.

STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS THAT WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT A PRIORITY ONE, BUT BECAUSE IT HAS SUCH POTENTIAL FOR CONNECTIVITY THAT WE LOOK FOR GRANT FUNDING TO MAYBE OFFSET SOME OF THAT COSTS BECAUSE IT IS A HIGHLY, HIGHLY DESIRED SIDEWALK CONNECTION THROUGH THERE.

AND AS WE'VE SHOWN, WE CAN DO IT IN A PRETTY ENVIRONMENTAL WAY ON THE SEGMENTS THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED.

EAST HIGHLAND STREET.

BAKER? SORRY.

JUST ON THAT ONE, TOO, I WOULD ADD.

I CONCUR, AND I'D ASK THAT TO CONTINUE PUSHING FORWARD ON THAT ONE BECAUSE THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS BEING HEAVILY USED BY OUR KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY, GO INTO THE SNOW CONE STAND AND THE WHOLE YATES AREA AND ALL THAT.

SO IT'S VERY COMMON YOU'RE GOING TO SEE KIDS OUT THERE ON THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD, YOUNG YOUNG KIDS, BICYCLES AND JUST WALKING ON THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD.

IT'S JUST THAT ONE SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.

SO THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.

THANKS.

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THIS WAS A SCORED LOWER.

IT WAS A PRIORITY PROJECT.

THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THIS SEGMENT WITH A WATER LINE PROJECT THAT'S GOING IN AND HIGHLAND.

BUT WE DO RECOMMEND THAT MOVING IT UP TO A TIER ONE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S SCORED DUE TO THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THIS IS A SOUTH PATENT BILL.

THIS IS A GAP SIDEWALK THAT SCORED LOWER AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE SOME TREE REMOVAL AND A RETAINING WALL WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED, BUT WOULD CLOSE A CRITICAL GAP TO AT LEAST HAVE CONNECTION TO THE HIGH SCHOOL PROPERTY.

AND THEN CARROLL ELEMENTARY IS DOWN TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST.

WE DID HAVE ONE SPEAKER COME OUT AND SUPPORT MOVING THIS UP TO A PRIORITY, AND THE COST WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH REMOVING THE RETAINING WALL IN THIS AREA, BUT I BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND WARRANTED TO HIGHER PRIORITY.

NORTH PEYTONVILLE IS A ABOUT A 4000 LINEAR FOOT RUN.

AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT SECTION, BUT WOULD REQUIRE RESULT IN A LOT OF TREE REMOVAL.

SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES PRETTY HEFTY PRICE TAG ON THIS.

SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL, THIS IS THE CONNECTION POINT TO SEVENTEEN POINT NINE TO EAST CONTINENTAL.

THE CHALLENGE HERE WOULD BE THE RIGHT AWAY AND SOME OF THE BAR DITCHES WITH THE CONNECTION OF THE SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL SIDEWALK, WHICH IS A PRIORITY ONE.

YOU DO GET THAT NORTH MOVEMENT.

IF YOU GO DOWN EAST CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD TO BYRON NELSON, YOU HAVE CONNECTED CONNECTION POINT UP TO 1709 AND THAT IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.

AS SUCH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND KEEPING THIS A LOWER PRIORITY AND THE ON THE PATHWAYS MAP AND THEN DAVIS BOULEVARD.

THIS IS A SECTION TO GO TO THE SOUTH.

THIS 470 IS A SECTION WE POINT OUT EARLIER SOUTHLAKE MARKETPLACE.

THIS WOULD GET CONNECTIVITY TO CONTINENTAL AND THE 76A HERE WOULD BE BUILT WITH THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

THE CHALLENGE WOULD BE THESE RETAINING WALLS, MUCH LIKE WE HAVE THE CHALLENGE IN FRONT OF THE HILLS CHURCH ON 1709.

THERE WOULD BE SOME COST WITH THAT, BUT IT WOULD PROVIDE A CONNECTION BACK TO SCHOOL AND DOES MEET.

SOME OF THE CRITERIA IS SCORED LOWER BECAUSE OF THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.

SHADY OAKS THIS IS A SEGMENT THAT WE RECEIVE SOME INPUT IN FROM.

THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ACROSS THE BICENTENNIAL PARK SIDEWALK SYSTEM STOPS HERE.

YOU DO HAVE A SIDEWALK SYSTEM ON THE WEST SIDE ONCE YOU GET NORTH OF LOVE HENRY COURT.

THAT GOES ALL THE WAY PAST THE SCHOOL PAST SHADY OAKS SUBDIVISION TO HIGHLAND.

THE CHALLENGE IS THE THE RESPONDENT WANT TO LOOK AT CONNECTION ON ONE OF THE BOTH SIDES.

THERE IS A LARGE DRAINAGE AREA THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE A SIDEWALK, BUT THE PLATING ON THE SUBDIVISION HERE GOES ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE DRAINAGE HERE, WHERE THIS IS ACTUALLY THESE PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.

THEY JUST HAVE THEIR FENCE PULLED UP.

AND SO THAT'S ACTUALLY PRIVATE PROPERTY ON THESE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES HERE, WHICH HAS CREATED THE CHALLENGE.

THERE IS ALSO TWO PATHWAY MAP AMENDMENTS.

WE WANT TO MAKE.

ONE IS IN ASSOCIATION WITH OUR THE NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD ROADWAY ELEVATION OR BRIDGE PROJECT, WHERE FLOODS.

WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BY DESIGNATING EIGHT FOOT SEGMENT ON OUR WEST SIDE TO INCLUDE THIS PROJECT INTO THE FUNDING OF THAT ROADWAY.

AND AS COUNCIL KNOWS, WE'RE PURSUING THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUNDING AND WOULD LOOKS PRETTY PROMISING THAT IF WE DO GET THE PROJECT, WE COULD BUILD THIS SIDEWALK SEGMENT WITH THE PROJECT.

AND THIS WOULD PROVIDE A CONNECTION FROM NORTH PARK AND LIBERTY PARK TO BOB JONES PARK AND THE CLIFFS PARK.

WE DO HAVE SEGMENTS BUILT TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THIS, AND SO THAT WOULD CREATE A SEGMENT ALL THE WAY DOWN DOVE FROM OUR PARKS THERE TO THIS PARK SYSTEM TO THE NORTH.

ALSO IN DISCUSSIONS ON THE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, WE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK.

THEY ARE ASKING FOR A A PATHWAYS VARIANCE.

CURRENTLY, THE WHAT'S SHOWN IN RED IS THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT OF THIS FUTURE

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THE KEY HERE IS WE WANT TO GET CONNECTIVITY FROM SOUTH CARROLL AVENUE OVER TO ZENNER RUCKER ROAD INTO ROCK AND BALL ONTO THIS SYSTEM.

SIDEWALK SYSTEM WHERE WE BUILT WAS IN RUCKER ROAD.

AND SO AGAIN, THE CONNECTION POINTS ARE IMPORTANT AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING REMOVING THIS PORTION BECAUSE IT GOES TO SCHOOL PROPERTY AND THROUGH SOME TIMMARON OPEN SPACE AND WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE ACQUIRE THAT EASEMENT VERSUS JUST MOVING IT TO THE EAST AND STILL HAD THAT SAME CONNECTIVITY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS WHAT THE WOULD LOOK LIKE ON YOUR MAP.

JUST SOME INFORMATION ON WHERE YOU CAN TRACK SIDEWALK PROJECTS TO ROADWAY PROJECTS WE'RE WANTING TO ADD.

AS FOR CONSIDERATION AND FUTURE CROPS, ONE IS THE SHADY OAKS HIGHLAND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

THE DISCUSSION IS TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION THAT'S JUST NORTH OF DURHAM.

IT OPERATES AT A LEVEL SERVICE F AND E DURING PEAK TIMES.

AS YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR, SCHOOL TRAFFIC BACKING UP DURING THOSE PEAK TIMES AS YOU DROP OFF THE CHILDREN, A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING EITHER TO THE HIGH SCHOOL OR BACK TO 114 AND MAKING THAT MOVEMENT AND SO THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN OUR INTERSECTION ANALYSIS IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.

WE'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS FROM THE COUNTRY MANOR RESIDENTS WHO DID RECEIVE A HANDOUT AT YOUR PLACE ON SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT MAKING THIS A A A SHIP PROJECT OR A PROJECT IN THE MOBILITY PLAN.

OUR STAFF HAS VISITED WITH OUR STAFF, HAS TO VISIT WITH THE HOA AND YOU CAN SEE THEIR CONCLUSIONS, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS IN THAT PROJECT.

THE OTHER PROJECT IS TO CONDUCT A STUDY RAMP REVERSALS STUDY IN OUR 114 AREA IN OUR MAJOR SHOPPING AREA.

THIS WOULD IMPROVE SAFETY BY REDUCING THE WEAVING THAT TAKES PLACE.

IT MAKES MAYBE SOME PROPERTIES MORE VIABLE IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT.

ALSO, WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT PROVIDING SOME EXPANSION TO 114 IN THE ADDITION OF ANOTHER EAST AND WESTBOUND LANE.

AND SO WE'D LIKE TO ADD THOSE AS POTENTIAL PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

THIS IS THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHLAND AND SHADY OAKS.

AGAIN, FOUR OPTIONS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE NEIGHBORS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH ANY IMPROVEMENTS TAKING PLACE.

AND THIS IS SOME OF THE ROADWAY PROJECTS THE RAMP REVERSAL PROJECT THAT MAY BE A FUTURE PROJECT, BUT TO GET TO BEGIN STUDYING THAT AS A POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECT ON 114 ALONG WITH THE LANE EXPANSION.

PERFECT PAZ'S RECOMMENDATION, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

OK? ONLY ONE QUESTION ON THE SIDEWALK.

I MEAN, ALL THOSE LOOK LIKE GREAT PROJECTS.

WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME OF TIER ONE IS THAT IT'S JUST 1-3 YEARS? ONE TO THREE YEARS.

OK, SO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF TIER ONE WITHIN THREE YEARS? THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL.

THAT'S THE GOAL.

OK, LOOK, I'M LOOKING AT ONE SLOT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR KEN ON THIS ON THIS ITEM, GUYS? OK, THANK YOU, SIR.

AND THEN MAYBE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON WHAT DID WE SAY, 9B? YEAH.

SO NO PRESENTATION AT SECOND READING.

SO YOU GOT OUT OF THE WAY.

NOW THIS IS ALL VERY INTERESTING.

WE'RE ALL VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE WE PURSUE NEW SIDEWALKS WHEREVER POSSIBLE.

THIS IS A SIGN VARIANCE FOR MESERO.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR SIGNAGE THAT EXCEEDS THE BUILDING OR THE LETTER HEIGHT, THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDINGS AT 147 EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

THIS IS THE OLD HOWARD WING'S LOCATION, JUST A COUPLE OF STREET VIEWS OF THE PROPERTY.

AND SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR THREE SIGNS THEY HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES SINCE THE SIGNED BOARD MEETING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD CONCERNS.

THIS FIRST SIGN IS ON THE NORTH ELEVATION OR THE SIDE THAT IS FACING 1709.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE M TO BE 55 AND A HALF INCHES.

THE LOWER CASE LETTERS ARE 31 INCHES.

THESE ARE SIGNS THAT ARE FIVE INCHES DEEP [INAUDIBLE] LETTER WITH A HALF INCH PUSH THROUGH ACRYLIC LETTERS.

AND THERE'S A SIX INCH TAGLINE THAT'S SIX INCHES AND QUARTER LETTER.

THIS WOULD NOT BE A ILLUMINATED TAGLINE.

THESE WOULD BE A FLAT CUT ACRYLIC NOT ILLUMINATED.

AND SO WHEN WE SAY PUSH THROUGH, THIS IS DESIGNED MUCH LIKE THE MOXIE SIGN.

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AND THEN ON THE WEST SIDE, THE MESERO SIGN OF 55 INCHES WITH NO TAGLINE.

THEY DID ADDRESS THE P&Z'S SIGNBOARDS CONCERNS.

THERE WAS A VARIANCE ON THIS BUILDING THAT WHEN STIR CRAZY WAS THERE, THEY WERE ALLOWED A 42 INCH LOGO.

I CAN GO THROUGH ANY OF THE OTHER VARIANCES IN THE SHOPPING CENTER IF NECESSARY.

THE SIGN WILL SHOW UP QUITE SIMILAR TO THE ONE AT THE PRESTON HOLLOW DAYTIME, AND IT'LL BE MORE OF THE ORANGE WITH THE KIND OF ORANGE AMBER BACKLIT SIGN IN THE EVENING.

THE TAGLINES WILL NOT BE LIT AS SOME OF THESE, BUT P&Z OR SIGN BOARD DID ASK THAT THEY PROVIDE SOME EXAMPLES OF THEIR OTHER SIGNS.

LEGACY WEST ON THE TOP.

PRESTON HOLLOW VICTORY PARK, WALNUT HILL AND CLEAR FORK.

SEE SOME OF THE SIGNS.

AND GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SIGNBOARDS RECOMMENDATION HERE THAT THE APPLICANT DID ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, SO THE APPLICANT GOT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM SIGN BOARD AND THEN DID EVERYTHING, SIGNBOARD ASKED? YES, SIR.

OK, COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS STANDING ON CONSENT? I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

STAYING ON CONSENT.

WELL, GOOD.

OK.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU.

OK.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT ITEMS ON CONSENT, ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT? ALL RIGHT.

[1. Call to order.]

AND FIRST THINGS FIRST, AS ALWAYS, WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[2. A. Executive Session]

YEAH, CERTAINLY NOT BEFORE 7:30, BUT MAYBE AS LATE AS EIGHT.

SO AS MAYOR, I HEREBY ADVISE YOU THAT WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071, TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SECTION 551.074, TO DELIBERATE REGARDING PERSONNEL MATTERS AND SECTION 551.087, TO DELIBERATE REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, AND WE WILL SEE YOU SOMETIME BETWEEN 7:30 AND 8:00.

OK, GOOD EVENING.

ONCE AGAIN, EVERYBODY.

SORRY, THAT TOOK SO LONG IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE HAD A WHOLE LOT TO CHEW ON TONIGHT AND WE ALWAYS ANNOUNCED JUST FYI DURING WORK SESSION WHEN WE'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND AND SO WE SAID BETWEEN 7:30 AND 8:00 AND SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE THREE MINUTES EARLY, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ALL BEING PATIENT WITH US.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT ADVICE FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT ALL THESE RELEVANT ISSUES THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.

SO WITH THAT FIRST THING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION IS THE MAYOR'S REPORT.

OH, I APOLOGIZE.

COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY ACTION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, MAYOR, THERE IS.

I ACTUALLY MOVE THAT WE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR CLASS A OFFICE SPACE, AS DISCUSSED, WHICH IS PROJECT NUMBER 2021-02.

CAN WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 7-0.

THANK YOU.

[3. REPORTS]

AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

A FINANCIAL REPORT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR POCKET.

SHARON JACKSON, OUR CFO, IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, WHICH TAKES US TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS ITEM 4A-4N.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEMS NUMBER 4A-4N WHICH IS OTHERWISE REFERRED TO HERE AS THE CONSENT AGENDA, NOTING 4B IS TO APPROVED AS RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-049, WHICH IS CASTING VOTES FOR THE TARRANT APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WHICH WE ARE CASTING ALL 35 VOTES FOR RICH DIOT, ALSO LIKE TO ADD 7B, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-643E, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS ZA21-0084, WHICH IS THE FIRST READING ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR WEST ELM ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT ONE, BLOCK ONE AND LOT ONE BLOCK TWO OF PARK VILLAGE.

ALSO ADDING 7C, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 1075C, WHICH IS THE FIRST READING AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS AN ELEMENT OF THE SOUTHLAKE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND ALSO ADDING 9B, WHICH IS SB21-0024, WHICH IS A SIGN VARIANCE FOR MESERO, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 1471 EAST

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ALL GOOD, KEN.

GREAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

GREAT THAT I ITEM PASSES 7-0, WHICH TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC FORUM.

SO PUBLIC FORUM IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE CROWD TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

SO I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT CAROLINE AND SOME OTHER ITEMS, BUT IF ANYONE IS HERE TO TALK TO US ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO IT.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC FORUM.

ANY TAKERS? OK, TOO EASY, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM THEN AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 6A, WHICH

[6.A. Ordinance No. 480-788, (ZA21-0072), 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Concept/Site Plan for Zena Rucker Road Office Park on property described as Lot 4, Block 1, Pecan Creek, an addition to the City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 731 Zena Rucker Rd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District. Proposed Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #9. PUBLIC HEARING]

DIRECTOR BAKER? MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGES SINCE YOUR FIRST READING YOU MAY RECALL, THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR A CHANGE TO THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2015.

THIS IS THE PROPOSAL AS DISCUSSED AT FIRST READING, THE APPLICANT MADE A NUMBER OF CHANGES TO ADDRESS THE RESIDENCE LOCATED TO THE EAST IN TERMS OF INCREASED BUFFERING, INCREASE SETBACK AND REDUCE PARKING.

THERE ARE TWO VARIANCES THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.

I'LL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO, IS THE APPLICANT HERE WISH TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

IT APPEARS TO BE GOING WELL FOR YOU, BUT I THINK THAT WAS A WISE CHOICE.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CROWD THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS US ABOUT ITEM 6A? OK, SEEING NONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE WE APPROVE.

ITEM NUMBER 6A, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-788, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE ZA21-0072, WHICH IS THE SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE IN CONCEPT SITE PLAN FOR ZENA RUCKER ROAD OFFICE PARK.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 9TH,2021, THE REVISED CONCEPT SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER SIX DATED OCTOBER 26TH, 2021 GRANTING THE FOLLOWING VARIANCES DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER 634 AS AMENDED SECTION 5.2.D REQUIRES A MINIMUM STACKING DEPTH OF FIFTY FOOT VARIANCES REQUESTED TO ALLOW A STACKING DEPTH OF APPROXIMATELY 41 FEET FOR THE WEST DRIVEWAY AND 43'9" INCHES FOR THE EAST DRIVEWAY.

ALSO, ZONING ORDINANCE NUMBER 480 AS AMENDED, WHICH IS SECTION 33.19 AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE NUMBER OF FOUR POINT EIGHTY THREE AS AMENDED SECTION 5.06, WHICH REQUIRES AN EIGHT FOOT MULTI-USE TRAIL TO BE EXTENDED TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE FOR THE MASTER PATHWAYS PLAN VARIANCE IS REQUESTED TO ALLOW NO TRAIL TO BE CONSTRUCTED FROM ZENNA RUCKER TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THE MOTION PASSED A 7-0.

CONGRATULATIONS LOOK FORWARD TO THE BUILDING.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 6B, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-647, ZA21-0080,

[6.B. Ordinance No. 480-647a (ZA21-0080), 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Site Plan for Mody Southlake, on property described as Lot 2, Block 1, Gumm Scifres Addition, an addition to the City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 2101 E. Southlake Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. Proposed Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

AND WE ARE GOING TO CALL THAT TOGETHER WITH ITEM 9A, WHICH IS SB21-0021.

THE SIGN VARIANCE FOR MODI SOUTHLAKE LOCATED AT 2101 EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

DIRECTOR BAKER, CAN YOU PRESENT BOTH OF THESE AT THE SAME TIME? YES, SIR.

AND WE'RE JUST THEY'RE BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS, CORRECT? THE SIGN IS NOT.

OK, WELL, WE'LL HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH THEN DEAL.

YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

TAKE IT AWAY.

THIS IS YOUR SECOND READING ON A MODIFICATION TO THE RETAIL BUILDING.

I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO TO THE CHANGE.

VERY MINOR.

IT'S A PROPOSED AWNING LOCATED ON THE EASTERN FACADE, AS REPRESENTED ON THE PROPOSED ELEVATION.

THERE'S NO OTHER CHANGES TO THE BUILDING FACADE.

THIS IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WILL BE USED FOR OUTDOOR DINING AND RESTAURANT TYPE USES THE SIGN VARIANTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.

IS FOR SOME ADDITIONAL UPPER STOREY SIGNS.

THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW APPROVAL OF VARIANCE TO THE SIGN ALLOW UPPER STOREY SIGNS, ALSO A LIGHT COVE LIGHTING ON THE EAST, NORTH AND WEST ELEVATIONS, THE BUILDING AND THEN A REDUCTION IN THE DISTANCE SEPARATIONS FOR TWO MONUMENT SIGNS.

PROPERTIES LOCATED JUST TO THE EAST OF THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND VILLAGE CENTER DRIVE.

THIS IS A RECENT PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SITE, THE PROPOSED MONUMENT SIGN.

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THEY ARE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION IN THAT DISTANCE TO ALLOW A MONUMENT SIGN LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF VILLAGE CENTER AND 1709, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL MONUMENT SIGN TO THE SOUTH TO THE MAIN DRIVE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OFF OF VILLAGE CENTER.

THE SIGN BOARD DID NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE THE MONUMENT SIGN IF THEY COULD ACHIEVE A 500 FOOT SEPARATION THAN THEY COULD HAVE TO MONUMENT SIGNS.

IF NOT, THE SIGN BOARD DID NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL THAT THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING UP LIGHTING OR CODE LIGHTING AROUND THE TOP PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING AND THEN ON THE SECOND STOREY RETAIL.

THEY'RE PROPOSING THE ALLOWANCE OF TWO UPPER STOREY SIGNS ON FACADES.

SO THIS IS THE ELEVATION THAT WAS PRESENTED.

THE THE COVE LIGHTING IS SHOWN IN RED.

IT'LL BE A WHITE LIGHT, BUT JUST FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES, IT'S SHOWN THE LOCATION IN RED.

BUT THIS WOULD BE A WHITE LIGHT LED LIGHT.

THE SIGN BOARD DID INDICATE THAT THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL THAT AS LONG AS THE SOURCE COULD NOT BE VISIBLE, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDER THE EAVE SUCH THAT THE LIGHTING SOURCE WAS NOT CLEARLY VISIBLE.

THE UPPER STOREY SIGNS WOULD BE ON THE NORTH FACADE FACING 1709 AND THEN THE EAST FACADE.

THE SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED ONLY ONE SIGN ON THE NORTH AND ONE SIGN ALLOWED UPPER STOREY SIGN ON THE EAST FACADE.

THE WAY IT'S PROPOSED, THEY WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED TO DO SIGNAGE ON THE FIRST FLOOR RETAIL, PER THE SIGN ORDINANCE.

AND THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION.

AGAIN, TWO SIGNS AND THEY DID ASK FOR VARIANCE THAT IT WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE CONGRUENT TO THE LEASE SPACE.

THIS IS A WEST NO SIGNS OF REPOSE.

AGAIN, THE COVE LIGHTING, WHICH IS SHOWN IN RED, WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE A WHITE KIND OF LED STRIP LIGHTING TO OUTLINE THE BUILDING.

THEY ARE ALSO ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO THE MASONRY RAP REQUIREMENTS.

THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THE SIGN FRAME BE FRAMED BY A MINIMUM OF A SIX INCH BRICK STONE OR MASONRY THAT'S MATCHING THE FRONT FACADE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.

THE P&Z WAS OK WITH THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE SIGN AS SHOWN ON THIS ILLUSTRATION, BUT WE'RE NOT OK WITH THE TWO SIGNS BEING LESS THAN.

FIVE HUNDRED FEET.

SO THIS IS THE COVE LIGHTING, AS MENTIONED ON THE ALL THREE ELEVATIONS.

THAT THIS IS THE SAME BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH I COVERED IN THE PRESENTATION, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, KEN.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OK.

DIRECTOR BAKER.

GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD, RANDY.

BY THE WAY, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.

MAYBE THE APPLICANT KNOWS BETTER ON THIS, BUT WHY THE SIGNIFICANCE ON THE EAST SIDE, NOT THE WEST SIDE? I MEAN, THEY'RE BOTH.

THEY BOTH CATCH TRAFFIC COMING DOWN SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

SO WHY IS THE EAST SIDE SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT? I DON'T KNOW.

THAT MAY BE YOUR TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF TOWN.

MAYBE NOT AS FAMILIAR.

YOUR EASTBOUND COMING OFF THE 114-1709 INTERCHANGE, BUT POSSIBLY THE MARKETABILITY STANDPOINT.

THE I MEAN, THE THE UPPER STOREY.

I MEAN, THE BUILDING.

I MEAN, THERE IS SOME DISTANCE BECAUSE IT'S SET BACK.

SO THE EAST SIDE IS FACING THE PERIMETER A LOT AND WHERE THE UPPER STORY ON THE WEST SIDE, YOU STILL HAVE THAT SINGLE STOREY PORTION OF IT ALSO.

OK.

THANK YOU.

DR. BAKER.

WHICH SIGN WAS MONUMENT SIGN A.

AND WHICH ONE WAS B? THEY'RE BOTH ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SIGN, AND THE A IS THE SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD SIGN.

SO P&Z'S RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF A BUT NOT B.

IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES WHEN YOU HAVE WHEN YOU HAVE DOUBLE MONUMENT SIGNS, WHEN YOU HAVE TWO STREET FRONTS, THAT THE DISTANCE, IF YOU PUT A SIGN HERE THAT THE LINEAR DISTANCE HAS TO BE 500 FEET AWAY.

AND SO THEY'RE ASKING IN ORDER TO LOCATE HERE THAT THE SIGNAGE BE LESS THAN 500

[01:05:08]

THEY DID NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT.

WHAT THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON WAS THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE TO DO THE RAP AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.

THE SEPARATION IS ABOUT 170 FEET.

IT'S PROBABLY NOT EVEN POSSIBLE TO DO A SECOND LINE ON THIS CONFIGURATION OF WHAT? OR WOULDN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE NEAR THE DRIVE.

DIRECTOR BAKER, I'M INCLINED TO FOLLOW THE ADVICE RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR SCIENCE BOARD, BUT CAN YOU GIVE ME ANY INSTANCE WHERE WE HAVE MULTIPLE SIGNS ON THE ON THE FACADE LIKE WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED OR REQUESTED HERE? I JUST I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PULLED UP, BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF SECOND FLOOR RETAIL.

THIS MAY BE THE ONLY SITUATION WHERE WE WE HAVE IT.

I MEAN, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, UPPER STORY IN TOWN SQUARE.

WE HAVE SIGNAGE BELOW THE RETAIL, BUT THAT'S USUALLY IN ITS OFFICE.

FOR THE MOST PART WE DO.

WE'D BE THE ONLY EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF.

OK, THANK YOU.

TAKE ANY OF THE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

OK, THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? COME ON DOWN, SIR.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND ANY PRESENTATION YOU HAVE.

WE'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR.

MY NAME IS GARY.

DELEAR MY ADDRESS IS 3849 VAN NESS IN DALLAS.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION THAT MY STAFF, THE COVE LIGHT, IS SIMPLY TO ADD A GLOW AROUND THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.

IT IS CONCEALED IN A CAST STONE COVE, SO YOU WON'T SEE THE LIGHT.

IT'S JUST INTENDED TO GIVE THE FACADE A SOFT WASH.

IT'S NOT COLOR CHANGING AND IT WILL BE A WHITE LIGHT.

THE THE MONUMENT SIGNS WE HAVE 540 FEET OF FRONTAGE, BUT JUST DO THE PROXIMITY OF THE THE DRIVEWAY AND SUCH WE CANNOT LOCATE THEM 500 FEET APART.

SO WE WERE ASKING FOR THE SECOND SIGN PURELY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ENTRANCE ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, OUR ENTRANCES ON SOUTH VILLAGE, SO WE THOUGHT IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE A SECOND SMALLER SIGN NEAR THE ENTRANCE DRIVE.

THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE WANT OR WE NEED IS THE SECOND STOREY SIGNAGE TWO SIGNS.

WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO TENANTS HERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND ANY PROSPECTIVE TENANT WANTS TO SIGN FACING SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

I THINK P&Z'S CONCERN WAS ABOUT SIGN CLUTTER, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE WILLING TO WITHDRAW THE REQUEST FOR THE EAST SIDE SIGNAGE IF WE COULD HAVE TWO SIGNS ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

OK.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT GUYS? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? ANY THOUGHTS ON THE TWO SIDES VERSUS THE EAST SIDE? WELL, I MEAN, LOOKING AT IT, IT APPEARS AS IF THERE'S A MULTITENANT LOCATION, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO HAVE TWO SIGNS.

AND I THINK THAT THE THE CHANGE IN ARTICULATION KIND OF REFLECTS THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY NOT LOOK LIKE IT WOULD BE SIGN CLUTTER.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE SEEING BOARD IS COMING FROM.

BUT GIVING AN ADDITIONAL THOUGHT, IT DOES KIND OF MAKE SENSE, AND I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO A TENANT TO BE ABLE TO ADVERTISE THAT THEY'RE IN A CERTAIN LOCATION.

SO I GUESS I'M A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE TO IT AFTER KIND OF HEARING THE APPLICANTS REQUEST.

SURE.

THOUGHTS, COUNCIL? JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU MEAN THE SECOND SIGN WOULD BE ON THE LOWER ARTICULATION? NO TWO SIGNS WERE SHOWN IN YELLOW THERE.

OK.

SO TO SIGN TWO SEPARATE SIGNS IN THE UPPER TWO SEPARATE SIDES.

IF WE HAVE TWO TENANTS.

YEAH, I, I WOULD BE IN MORE FAVOR.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TENANT.

I GUESS THAT WOULD BE WHAT ONE? ONE EAST AND ONE WEST.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? WELL, TWO TWO FACING SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

SO THEY BOTH FACE NORTH.

RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW DIRECTOR BAKER, IF WE HAVE ANY SIGNAGE WHERE WE HAVE SIGNAGE THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHERE THE TENANT IS LOCATED.

IS THAT ACCURATE? THIS WOULD BE OVER THE TENANTS.

THAT'S I'M WONDERING, WOULD YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF VARIANCES THAT WERE GIVEN WHERE THE SIGN WAS NOT CONGRUENT WITH THE TENANT SPACE SO THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW? IF YOU DO GO WITH THE TWO SIGN OPTION ON 1709, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW THE TENANTS ARE GOING TO LAY OUT EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE NORTH, SOUTH OR EAST WEST.

FACING THAT, YOU CONSIDER THAT VARIANCE THAT THE TENANT SPACE DOESN'T HAVE TO

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WHY WOULDN'T YOU BE OPEN TO PUTTING ONE ON THE LOWER BUILDING, THE LOWER SECTION? IS THAT NOT A SEPARATE? WE HAVE FIRST FLOOR TENANTS ON THE LOWER SECTION.

THERE'S FOUR FIRST FLOOR TENANTS AND PROBABLY TWO SECOND FLOOR TENANTS.

AND WE DO SEE IT BEING SPLIT NORTH SOUTH.

SO I BELIEVE THE SIGNS WOULD BE OVER THE TOP OF THE LEASE SPACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'D PREFER BOTH SIGNS OVER THE HIGHER ARTICULATION, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

BUT WHAT? YOU HAVE A SIGN ON THE LOWER ARTICULATION FOR THE LOWER TENANTS, TOO? THE LOWER TENANTS WOULD HAVE FIRST FLOOR SIGNAGE, SO THEY'LL HAVE THEIR SIGNS ALREADY UPPER FLOORS.

HOW MANY SIGNS ARE YOU ASKING FOR IN THAT CASE? IT'S ONE PERTINENT.

YEAH.

SO FOR SO FOR ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND TWO ON THE SECOND FLOOR, OK, I THINK THE SIGN BOARD WAS DID A GOOD JOB.

THEN AS I LOOK THROUGH THIS, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE CONFUSION BECAUSE THE SLIDE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT COUNCILMAN SMITH AND I ARE TALKING ABOUT OVER HERE IS ON THE LOWER ARTICULATION.

THE FIRST FLOOR WHERE THERE'S FOUR TENANTS.

IS THERE ANY SIGNAGE ABOVE THAT DOOR OR IS IT JUST THE MONUMENT SIGN? I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION IS.

YEAH, YEAH.

THERE WOULD BE WALL MOUNTED SIGNS BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR.

SO TO TWO ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ELEVATOR TOWER AND TWO ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ELEVATOR TOWER FOR THOSE FOUR TENANTS, ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING OVER THE ORDINANCE.

WELL, I'M NOT SURE I'M COMFORTABLE WITH SIX SIGNS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING; IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, DIRECTOR BAKER, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT FOR US? SO THE REQUEST IS THE VARIANCE IS FOR THE UPPER STOREY SIZE.

SO EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD FALL UNDER THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.

SO IF A FIRST FLOOR TENANT CAME IN WHERE THE ARROWS SHOWN THEY COULD HAVE A SIGN HERE, TENANT HERE COULD HAVE A SIGN HERE OF A FIRST FLOOR TENANT.

HERE THEY HAVE A SIGN HERE.

ANOTHER ONE COULD HAVE A SIGN HERE.

THE VARIANCES FOR UPPER STORE UPPER STOREY SIGNS WHICH ARE NOT PERMITTED BY BY ORDINANCE WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL.

SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR TWO SIGNS WITHIN THIS YELLOW BOX.

ESSENTIALLY, THEY WOULD MEET THE ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF LETTER, HEIGHT AND TYPE ET.

BUT YOU COULD HAVE, DEPENDING ON EACH FIRST FLOOR TENANT, WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO SIGN.

SO THIS WOULD BE ANY TENANT IN THIS BUILDING THAT HAS CONGRUENCE SPACE TO 1709 COULD HAVE SIGNED ANY TENANT HERE COULD HAVE A SIGN.

AND THEN, DEPENDING ON WHAT COUNCIL DOES WITH THE VARIANCE, THEY COULD HAVE A SIGN ON THE UPPER FLOOR IF YOU ALLOW IT.

IF YOU DON'T, THEY CAN'T, OR IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OR ELSE CHOICE.

THIS IS SEEMS EERILY FAMILIAR TO WHAT WE DEALT WITH SOUTHLAKE FAMILY MEDICINE.

I WAS GOING TO SAY IT REMINDS ME OF THAT NEW BUILDING, THE MEDICAL BUILDING.

YEAH, WHAT DO WE DO OVER THERE? I THINK WE LIMITED THE SIGNAGE FOR THE SAME REASONS, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME UPPER STOREY SIDE.

THEY DO.

I THINK THEY WANTED TO USE THE CORNERS AND WE GAVE THEM ONE CORNER OR THE OTHER, DIDN'T WE? I MEAN, YOU CAN'T GET AN UPPER STOREY TENANT WITHOUT A SIGN.

I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF HE'S GOT TWO TENANTS HAVING TWO SIDES, I DON'T KNOW HOW HE LEASES THE SPACE WITHOUT IT.

YEAH.

ARE YOU TALKING? ARE YOU TALKING THE WHITE CHAPEL BUILDING, COUNCIL MEMBER? NO.

THE ONE BEHIND REI; RIGHT? YEAH.

THE ONE BEHIND OUR [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH.

MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING MORE CLEAR, BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.

I CAME IN FRONT OF US SIX MONTHS AGO.

MAYBE I DON'T RECALL.

YEAH.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT JUST LIMITING IT TO HOWEVER MANY TENANTS ARE UP THERE? I MEAN, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU LEASE THE SPACE WITHOUT SOME KIND OF SIGNAGE.

AND I GUESS WE DO IT IN TOWN SQUARE.

I UNDERSTAND TOWN SQUARE IS SPECIAL, BUT WE ALSO DO IT IN OUR IN OUR LARGER OFFICE DEVELOPMENTS.

YEAH, RIGHT.

NOT EVERY TENANT IN A FOUR STOREY BUILDING GETS A SIGN.

NO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT IN A CASE LIKE THIS, IT'S IT IS DIFFICULT TO LEASE WITHOUT ONE.

I MEAN, PERHAPS IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE.

BUT CONSIDER IF WE'RE GOING TO START SEEING MORE TWO STOREY SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, WE MIGHT NEED TO KIND OF REVISIT THAT ORDINANCE A LITTLE BIT AND LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW.

[01:15:01]

THAT'S MY POINT.

YEAH, YOU HAVE THERE'S TENANTS AT ALL THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.

SURE.

SO IT'S NOT RETAIL AS OBVIOUSLY THIS IS RETAIL SPACE, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN A RETAIL SITUATION, I THINK.

WHAT DID SIGNBOARDS SAY? SOME MORE, SAID ONE.

SIGN UP THERE.

ONE SIDE ON THE NORTH AND ONE SIDE ON THE EAST, ON THE OTHER.

SO THEY GAVE THEM TWO OF YOUR STORY SIGNS.

YES.

SO YOU'RE JUST ASKING TO TAKE THE EAST, SIGN UP TO THE NORTH.

CORRECT.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

BUT YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS MAY SAY NO.

I MEAN, WE'VE PUT 20 MINUTES INTO THIS ONE ALREADY, SO I'M GOOD WITH TWO JUST TO MOVE ALONG.

DID IT BEAT YOU INTO SUBMISSION? OK, WELL, CHAD, ARE YOU GOOD AT MAKING THAT MOTION? WELL, WE CAN GET THERE.

WE CAN GET THE PROCESS.

IT'S A PROCESS.

OK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR COUNCIL? OH NO.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST HAVE A SEAT.

WHILE WE DELIBERATE FOR A SECOND, WE MIGHT CALL YOU BACK UP.

OK, SO ANY OTHER FURTHER THOUGHTS BEFORE CHAD MAKES A MOTION? ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON, YOU'RE UP.

ALL RIGHT.

OH, THE PUBLIC, LIKE I WAS SAYING, PUBLIC HEARING FOR 6B.

OK, 6B IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 6B, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SEEING NO SPEAKERS, I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT AND CALL FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 6B FIRST AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO 9A MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6B OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-647A, ZA21-0080, WHICH IS THE SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR MODI SOUTHLAKE.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER9TH, 2021 AND THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED OCTOBER 15TH, 2021, NOTING THE SITE AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW THE ATTACHMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 18 FOOT BY FOUR INCH BY 10 FOOT METAL AWNING TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING.

THE AREA UNDER THE AWNING WILL BE UTILIZED FOR OUTDOOR SEATING.

THE SITE WILL BE SUBJECT TO ALL PREVIOUS ZONING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR CASE ZA13-075 AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-647.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OK, ITEM 6B PASSES 7-0.

IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 9A? YEAH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 9A, OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS SV21-0021 , WHICH IS A SIGN VARIANCE FOR MODI SOUTHLAKE LOCATED AT TWENTY ONE POINT ONE E.

SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 9TH, 2021 WITH THE VARIANCE REQUESTED, NOTING APPROVAL OF THE COVE LIGHTING AND THE COVE LIGHTING MUST NOT BE VISIBLE AND MUST BE A WHITE LIGHT, DENYING THE MONUMENT SIGN REQUEST TO REDUCE THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO SIGNS FROM 500 FEET TO 170 FEET, ALLOWING THE MONUMENT SIGN TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS PRESENTED AND NOT REQUIRING THE SIGN FACE TO BE FRAMED BY A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET OF BRICK, STONE OR MASONRY MATERIAL MATCHING THE FRONT FACADE OF THE BUILDING AND LIMITING THE UPPER STOREY SIGNS TO TWO SIGNS ON THE NORTH FACADE AND NO SIGN ON THE EAST FACADE.

ALSO NOTING THAT THE UPPER STOREY SIGNS MUST MEET ALL 704-J,AS AMENDED SIGN ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF THE TYPE, LOCATION, LETTER HEIGHT AND SIGN COLOR.

WE HAVE A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

AND THAT ITEM PASSES 7-0.

CONGRATULATIONS, SO 6B AND 9A ARE APPROVED.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE BUILDING ON ON THE GROUND.

OK, WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 7A WHICH NOW AMAZINGLY IS THE LAST ITEM

[7.A. Ordinance No. 480-464E, (ZA20-0029), 1st Reading, Zoning Change and Development Plan for Carillon Pare on property described as Tracts 1, 1D, 1E, 1F, 1G, 3A, 3A01, 3A03, 3A04, 3A04A, 3A05, and 3A01B, Larkin H. Chivers Survey, Abstract No. 300, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 1775, 1781 and 1801 N. White Chapel Blvd., 1840 Riviera Ln., 201 E. Kirkwood Blvd., 1700 N. Carroll Ave. (addressed as 1900 N. Carroll Ave. by Tarrant Appraisal District) and 100 through 300 E. State Hwy. 114, generally located east of N. White Chapel Blvd., south of E. Kirkwood Blvd., west of Riviera Ln., and north of E. State Hwy. 114. Current Zoning: "ECZ" Employment Center Zoning District. Proposed Zoning: "ECZ" Employment Center Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #3. (If approved at 1st reading, the public hearing will be held on December 7, 2021).]

ITEM SEVEN EIGHT, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-464E, ZA20-0029 FIRST READING ZONING CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CAROLINE PARK AND LET ME SAY BEFORE DIRECTOR BAKER GETS STARTED.

THANK YOU GUYS ONCE AGAIN FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US.

I KNOW THIS WAS KIND OF AN INTERESTING PROCESS, GOING FROM GOING FROM A FIRST READING TWO WEEKS AGO TABLING AND THEN MOVING ON TO TONIGHT.

YOU KNOW, ANY TIME WE'RE ASKED TO ENTER INTO AN INCENTIVE PACKAGE WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE THAT OBLIGATION INCREDIBLY SERIOUSLY.

WE ARE A FIDUCIARY FOR THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

AND ANY TIME WE COMMIT PUBLIC FUNDS TO A PROJECT OR CHANGE THE ZONING ON A PROJECT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PURSUING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.

THAT IS OUR CORE FIDUCIARY DUTY AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

AND WE'VE DONE THAT AND I'M EXCITED TO SAY OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WE HAVE INSTRUCTED STAFF TO BEGIN ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS ON THE INCENTIVE PACKAGE WITH THE DEVELOPERS OF CAROLYN PARK.

WE WANT TO HEAR ITEM.

WE WANT TO HEAR THE FIRST READING TONIGHT.

I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO A VOTE ON CAROLINE PARK FOR FIRST READING TONIGHT.

SO DIRECTOR BAKER, LET ME CALL YOU UP FOR A PRESENTATION.

DIRECTOR BAKER IS GOING TO GO OVER SOME CHANGES THAT SOME ALTERNATE PROPOSALS THAT THE

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AND THEN I'D ASK THE DEVELOPER AFTER DIRECTOR BAKER TO COME ON UP AND GIVE US A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT WE SAW TWO WEEKS AGO AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING TONIGHT.

DIRECTOR BAKER, TAKE US AWAY.

I'M DIRECTOR BAKER, BEFORE WE START, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PLAZA DISTRICT.

I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO OVER THE CHANGES SINCE YOUR LAST MEETING.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.

THIS IS THE 2008 HAINES PLAN ZONING THAT WAS APPROVED.

THIS IS THE 2018 APPROVED PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE ON THE LEFT AND THE PROPOSED PLAN THAT YOU LOOKED AT AT YOUR LAST MEETING.

THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH IS WAS PRESENTED AT YOUR MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, REFERRED TO AS AN OPTION FILL IN PLAN OPTION A..

AND THERE ARE SOME REVISIONS WHICH WOULD BE REFERRED TO AS VOTE AND PLAN OPTION B, WHICH I'LL GO OVER QUICKLY IN DETAIL.

THIS IS THE COLORIZED VERSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT YOU SAW AT YOUR MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.

THE NEW PLAN IS SHOWN AS OPTION B ON THIS SLIDE, WHERE THE BUILDING H WAS SHOWN.

HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, THAT IS NOW UNDER THE OPTION BE SHOWN AS A MIXED USE TYPE OF BUILDING THAT INCLUDES NEW RESIDENTIAL LOFTS, RETAIL TYPE USE.

25 RESIDENTIAL LOFTS ARE REQUESTED IN ADDITION TO THE 25 THAT WERE REQUESTED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

THE LOFTS ARE OVER A AS MENTIONED ON ONE LEVEL RETAIL AND THERE'LL BE A SUPPORTING PARKING GARAGE IN THIS AREA.

THIS WOULD BE A SINGLE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED WITH THIS OPTION B.

THE ELEVATED PARK FEATURE THAT WAS CONNECTION POINT FROM NORTH TO SOUTH WOULD BE REMOVED AND THEN THE NORTHERN BELL TOWER WOULD ALSO BE REMOVED.

THERE'S ALSO A SCREENING WALL SHOWN BY THE RED LINE, WHICH SEPARATES THE RESIDENTIAL FROM THE NONRESIDENTIAL PORTION OF DEVELOPMENT.

IN ADDITION, ALONG RIVERA LANE, THERE ARE FIVE ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL TYPE A BELOW PRODUCTS BEING SHOWN.

THE NEW PLAN, OR THE OPTION B PLAN, WOULD REDUCE THE PARK DEDICATION BY THREE ACRES, AND THE PHASING PLAN IS ALSO A MODIFIED DEVELOPER IS ASKING TO DELAY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK.

THE BELL TOWER AND FOUNTAINS TO COINCIDE WITH THE PHASE ONE BUILDINGS.

THIS IS A.

AN ILLUSTRATION THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED TO THE STAFF SHOWING THE THE PHASING PLAN, THE.

IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT WHAT'S SHOWN IN THE LIGHT PURPLE WOULD BE THE ROADWAYS INTO THE UTILITIES AND SITE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING RELEASE OF ALL THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, INCLUDING THE FIVE NEW LOTS PRIOR TO THE PARK, FEATURE THE BELL TOWER BEING COMPLETED.

THE PHASING PLAN, DISCUSSED TWO WEEKS AGO, REQUIRED THAT THE PARK COMPONENT BE COMPLETED BEFORE ANY OF THE LOTS WERE RELEASED IN CAROLINE.

SO THIS IS THE NEW PHASING PLAN THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

THE APPLICANT WILL DISCUSS SOME OPTIONS IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY AS PART OF HIS PRESENTATION.

SO FOR SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONAL USES, THERE IS ONE VARIANCE THAT'S STILL NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.

AND THAT'S THE DRIVEWAY STACKING DEPTHS FROM WHITE CHAPEL AND 114 AS SHOWN IN THE SLIDE.

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I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR BAKER.

ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT OF STAFF? I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE PLENTY THANK YOU, SIR.

SO WITH THAT, I CALL THE APPLICANT FORWARD.

JUST A FORMALITY, SIR, CAN YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS JOHN TERRELL.

SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT OFFICE ADDRESS IS 161 SUMMIT AVENUE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

IT'S AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY YOU GUYS THERE CAN'T ALWAYS DOES AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

HE BASICALLY TOOK WHAT I WOULD HAVE TAKEN ABOUT AN HOUR TO RELAY TO YOU IN A FEW MINUTES.

SO I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY SKIP THROUGH A NUMBER OF SLIDES AND NOT REPEAT SOME OF WHAT HE HAS JUST DONE SOME OF THE PRIOR ZONING BECAUSE I THINK HE DID THAT VERY WELL.

HE ALSO WENT OVER THE CONCEPT PLANS, AND THIS IS WHAT WAS BEFORE YOU.

WE ALSO HAVE THE ALTERNATE PLAN B TO ALSO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT THIS EVENING, JUST AS A REMINDER, BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FUN STUFF ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

YOU KNOW, WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE STUDIES AND DIRECTION THAT THE CITY HAS GIVEN FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PARK NOT ONLY OPTION A, BUT ALSO OPTION B, STILL CHECKS THE BOX FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS AND THE DIRECTION AND VISION IN THE 2025, 2030, 2035 PLAN, THE 114 SECTOR PLAN AND ALL OF THE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS.

THE CONCLUSIONS OF A LOT OF THOSE STUDIES AND THE DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN IN THOSE STUDIES IS THAT WE WERE SATURATED IN TERMS OF NATIONAL CHAIN RETAILERS AND RESTAURANTS, AND THAT THIS CITY SHOULD FOCUS IN ORDER TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES AROUND US THAT CONTINUE TO BUILD EXCITING NEW PROJECTS.

AS WE NEEDED TO FOCUS ON SOME CHEF DRIVEN RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT, SPACE INCUBATOR RESTAURANTS, THE SPECIALTY RETAIL, NOT NATIONAL CHAIN, AND IT ALSO EVEN MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY A CULINARY SCHOOL.

WE TOOK ALL OF THIS STUFF TO HEART AND INCORPORATED THESE THINGS INTO THIS PLAN, THE CULTURE AND CULINARY HUB.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO CREATE.

WE WANT TO PARTNER.

IN FACT, I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT SOME PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE TARRANT COUNTY COLLEGE, AS WELL AS CARROLL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HOW WE PLAN TO GO FORWARD ON THAT, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF CREATING AN ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD BE LIKE A 501 THREE C NONPROFIT THAT WOULD BE FOCUSED ON BRINGING IN CHEFS, BRINGING IN THESE SPECIALTY RETAIL, BUT MOSTLY ON THIS CULINARY HUB IDEA AND HOW THIS WILL BOOST THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE IN THAT AREA.

THOSE STUDIES SAID WE NEEDED TO BE ACTIVE MORE TOWARDS THE NIGHT TIME THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN.

WE CLOSED DOWN A LOT OF THESE RESTAURANTS AND OPPORTUNITIES, AND WE'RE MISSING BIG OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESTAURANTS AND AND NIGHTLIFE ACTIVITY THAT DOES NOT CURRENTLY OCCUR IN HERE.

WE WANT TO FOCUS ON CULINARY EVENTS WHERE WE HAVE MUCH LIKE TOWN SQUARE HAS NUMEROUS FESTIVALS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

WE WANT TO DO THE SAME THING AND WE HAVE PROGRAMING AND FOLKS THAT ARE PARTNERS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

WE WANT TO BE THE CENTER FOR TEXAS FOR WHEN YOU THINK OF CULINARY DESTINATIONS, WE WANT SOUTHLAKE TO BE RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE LIST OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH APEX ARTS LEAGUE, THE SOUTHLAKE ARTS COUNCIL, AND THERE'S TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING BOTH THE PERFORMING ARTS, VISUAL ARTS AND SO FORTH INTO THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

WE WANT TO FOCUS.

WE'VE ALWAYS FOCUSED ON CULINARY INCUBATORS.

WE WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO DO THAT AND ART GALLERIES.

I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THIS QUICKLY BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THIS IS NOT THE FOUNTAIN ACROSS THE STREET.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS A WATER FEATURE, AND A BIG PIECE OF THESE FOLKS IS ABOUT THEIR MAINTENANCE.

IT WILL OPERATE.

IT IS A HUGE ATTRACTION.

AND I THINK THAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS FOR JUST A SECOND BECAUSE WE COULD CREATE A NORMAL PARK AND AVOID SOME EXPENSES TO THE DEVELOPER OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND TO THE CITY.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT LIVES UP TO CARILLON AS A WHOLE AND THAT IS WORTHY OF THIS CITY AND THAT IS GOING TO COMPETE AT A HIGH LEVEL WITH ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT SURROUND US, THAT ARE PUTTING IN NEW SPECIAL WATER FEATURES AND SO FORTH.

WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE BOX.

WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO CREATE NOT ONLY A DESTINATION FOR ALL THE

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IT WILL BRING PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER TO WITNESS SHOWS THAT START AT CERTAIN HOURS AND HAVE MUSIC AND MOVEMENT.

IF YOU'VE BEEN.

TO LAS VEGAS AND SEEING BELLAGIO AT NIGHT WHEN THEY LINED THE STREETS AND ALL UP THE SIDEWALKS.

WE WANT TO CREATE THAT KIND OF ATMOSPHERE WHERE PEOPLE COME IN NOT ONLY FOR OUR DINING, NOT ONLY FOR OUR SHOPPING, BUT FOR AN ENTERTAINMENT EXPERIENCE THAT WOULD BE HERE.

THESE ARE JUST SOME RENDERINGS.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO ONE PART, THE CONNECTION WITH THE LIBRARY.

WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME BUBBLES THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THAT TO ENCOURAGE MOMS AND DADS WITH THEIR CHILDREN TO PROVIDE THEM A SPACE FOR PLAY AND ACTIVITY.

AND WE'VE HAD THAT IN OUR PRESENTATION ALL ALONG.

THE RESTAURANTS AND KIOSKS, THE KIOSKS ARE INTERESTING IN THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST A RETAIL OPPORTUNITY.

THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS GOING THROUGH THE CULINARY SCHOOL TO HAVE INCUBATOR SPACE IN A VERY SMALL, AFFORDABLE.

I CAN START MY RESTAURANT, OUR FOOD BUSINESS IN THESE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS, SO IT'S MUCH MORE DYNAMIC AND ADDITIVE TO THE OVERALL PARK THAN JUST A KIOSK WITH RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS OPEN AREA.

AS YOU RECALL, TOO, WE ADDED A DECK TO THESE RESTAURANTS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM AN ENTERTAINMENT STANDPOINT, YOU NOW HAVE WHAT IS FLAT SURFACE FOR CHAIRS.

YOU HAVE A SLANTED SLOPED AREA WHERE WE PUT IN RETAINING WALLS AND STEPS THAT CAN BE USED AS AMPHITHEATER TYPE SEATING.

AND THEN AS YOU MOVE INTO THE RESTAURANT, FIRST FLOOR AND SECOND FLOOR, YOU ARE CREATING AN ENTERTAINMENT SPACE UNLIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE OR THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT THAT THERE'S ALSO SOME COVERED AREAS AND I DON'T WANT TO OVERLOOK THOSE.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO COME IN AND SERVICE DURING FESTIVALS AND POTENTIALLY ALL THE TIME.

AND ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AGAIN FOR OUR CULINARY STUDENTS AND GRADUATES TO START INCUBATING THEIR OWN BUSINESSES THERE.

WE WANT TO GROW THEM.

AS I SPOKE ABOUT THE CULINARY INSTITUTE, WE HAVE MADE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PROGRESS THERE.

WE HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN VERBAL AGREEMENTS FROM TCC ON AN ARTICULATION AGREEMENT, WHICH ALLOWS YOU DUAL CREDITS WHILE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE HIGH SCHOOL.

I HAVE ALREADY MET WITH MULTIPLE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE SUPERINTENDENT.

WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS BEING SET UP.

THEY, QUITE INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, ARE ALREADY STARTING PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF EXPANDING THE CURRICULUM TO INCLUDE TRADES, AND THEY SPECIFICALLY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CULINARY ARTS AND A PROGRAM THERE.

WHAT BETTER WAY TO ALSO WORK HAND IN HAND BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAN TO BRING IN A CULINARY ARTS DEGREE PROGRAM, WHICH IS ALREADY OFFERED THROUGH TCC? BUT WE DON'T WANT TO JUST START A SCHOOL.

WE WANT TO MAKE IT SPECIAL.

WE WANT TO WHEN THERE'S A PROGRAMING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE AND OUR CHEF COULD NOT BE HERE THIS EVENING, BUT THERE'S A CERTIFICATION PROGRAM THAT AS YOU COME THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND GO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, YOU WALK OUT WHERE CERTIFICATIONS AND THE ABILITY TO GET JOBS.

BUT EVEN BEYOND THAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE BOTH AN INTERN AND AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM BECAUSE ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WAS HIT HARDEST DURING COVID WAS RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS.

AND THEN IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THOSE STAFF, FOLKS AND WAITSTAFF TO COME BACK TO WORK.

YOU DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE TYPE LABOR LOCALLY THAT YOU CAN KEEP UNLESS YOU CAN GROW YOUR OWN.

SO WE WANT TO BE OUR OWN INCUBATOR OF OUR OWN PEOPLE HERE AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND GROW A WORKFORCE THAT NOT ONLY IS GOING TO BE GOOD WORKERS, BUT DESIRE THIS AS CAREER AND LIFELONG OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FOR FAMOUS CHEFS, NATIONALLY RENOWNED CHEFS AND IN RESTAURANTS THAT THEY CAN FEEL EXTREMELY PROUD THAT THIS IS A VERY HONORABLE AND FUN CAREER.

WE WANT TO GROW THAT RIGHT HERE IN SOUTHLAKE AND HAVE US KNOWN FOR THAT AS WELL BEYOND THE SCHOOL, THOUGH, AS A PART OF THE SCHOOL.

IT ALSO HAS A SHOWCASE KITCHEN IN WHICH THERE ARE EVENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN RENT THIS SPACE, THEY CAN DO PARTIES, YOU CAN DO COOKING WITH THE CHEF.

WE ALSO JUST MET WITH AMANDA FREITAG TODAY, AND IF YOU HADN'T LOOKED THEM UP FROM THE LAST TIME I LOOKED HER UP FROM THE LAST TIME THAT WE MET, VERY WELL-KNOWN HAS

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AND THEN POTENTIALLY WORK TOWARDS A TRUE ENTERTAINMENT FROM A TV PERSPECTIVE AND ON SOME OF THE CABLE CHANNELS RIGHT OUT OF SOUTHLAKE.

HOSPITALITY ALLIANCE, WHO YOU MET KEVIN THIS LAST WEEK, HE HAS A PHENOMENAL TEAM AND THEY PROGRAMED LARGE SPACES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

BUT YOU KNOW, SOME THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO US AS THE AT&T HEADQUARTERS THAT IS OVER IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

AND THEY MANAGE AND PROGRAM THAT ENTIRE AREA, OWN MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS AND HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST PRODUCING RESTAURANTS IN THEIR OWNERSHIP.

AND THAT IS THE TEAM THAT NOT ONLY IS KEVIN BEST AT WHAT HE DOES, BUT HE ALSO IS A SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT.

SO IT'S ANOTHER HOMEGROWN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT SUCCESS OF SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE THIS NATIONALLY TO ONE OF OUR OWN PROJECTS, AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT KIND OF GETTING BACK TO WHERE KEN LEFT OFF.

THIS WAS THE THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD AT TWO MEETINGS AGO.

AND WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS, NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, BUT WITH JUST SOME PARTS AND PIECES OF THAT.

KEN ALREADY WENT THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, SO I WON'T GO OVER THAT AGAIN.

BUT AS PART OF THAT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE QUALITY IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS STILL TOP NOTCH.

IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN ANYTHING WE HAVE IN SOUTHLAKE RIGHT NOW AND SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE RENOWNED FOR.

THIS WAS THE ELEVATED PARK, AND IF WE GO TO OPTION B, THAT ELEVATED PARK WOULD NOT EXIST.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE QUALITY AND THE CONCEPT THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IN OPTION A.

THESE WERE THE OLD LOFTS FROM THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WITH THE AREA.

AND AS I WENT THROUGH THE LAST ONE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALWAYS CONTINUE TO UP THE GAME.

WE DON'T WANT TO REST ON OUR LAURELS.

WE DON'T WANT TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE GOT THIS APPROVED BEFORE SO WE CAN EITHER REMAIN STATIC OR SLIGHTLY REDUCE IT BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S IN SUPPORT.

WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THESE CONCEPTS, RAISE THE BAR.

AND WHEN WE FIND THINGS THAT ARE BETTER THAN WHAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY, WE INCORPORATE THEM IN HERE.

AND WE HAVE ALSO CONTINUED TO KNOW LISTEN TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT SURROUND US.

AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE THE LOFT PRODUCT THAT WAS IN OPTION A WAS TWENTY FIVE UNITS ON TWENTY TWO ACRES MINIMUM OF 2300 SQUARE FEET, VERY HIGH END AMENITIES.

THESE WOULD BE THE HIGHEST PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INTERESTED AND KIND OF PRE-SOLD FOLKS.

BUT SINCE THE LAST MEETING, THE COUNCIL EXPRESSED TO US THE CONCERN ABOUT NEEDING FURTHER STUDY ON THE LIBRARY AND WANTING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE CITY DOING ITS FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES.

SO WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN THAT RESPONDS TO THAT AND THAT IS TO REPLACE THE LIBRARY AND EXTEND THE LOFT PRODUCT SO THAT IT BECOMES ONE BUILDING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PARK AND KIND OF SURROUNDS AND ENCAPSULATES THE PARK AND PROVIDES ANOTHER GREAT AREA AND AMENITY AROUND THE PARK.

WE ALSO SAW THAT THAT IS BUFFERED.

WE ADDED FIVE LOTS OVER ON THE EASTERN EDGE SO THAT THE FOLKS THAT LIVE ON RIVIERA DID NOT HAVE TO FACE THE BACK SIDE OF THE LOFT RETAIL PRODUCT AND THEN AGAIN ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE LIST OVER ON THE SIDE.

SO I WON'T BELABOR THAT ISSUE.

WE DID DO SOME ADDITIONAL WORK ON HOW MUCH RETAIL WAS GOING TO BE IN THIS ENTIRE PROJECT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE SALES TAX.

I KNOW THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION, PATRICK, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE BEFORE FORGET IT? THAT'S ONE.

YES, THE THE 23 HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT GENERAL SIZE ON THIS ONE.

YES.

WILL THAT BE THE SAME ON THE PROPOSED THAT WHEN I GET TO THIS NEXT SLIDE, BUT IT WILL BE IDENTICAL IN TERMS OF THE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM AND THE SAME RESTRICTIONS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO.

AS WE MOVE ON TO THIS, THE RETAIL IS ALSO EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, THAT'S WHAT GENERATES SALES TAXES, IT'S WHAT PAYS FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS FOR THE CITY.

AND AS WE ALL KNOW, OVER 70 PERCENT OF THOSE SALES TAXES ARE PAID FOR BY PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN SOUTHLAKE.

SO WE LOVE INVITING PEOPLE INTO SOUTHLAKE TO PAY FOR OUR STUFF.

AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO BRING PEOPLE AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO SPEND THEIR MONEY FROM ELSEWHERE RIGHT HERE.

AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME TO OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS THAT HAVE COME INTO PLAY

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WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.

AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S A HIGHER COST, WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT ALSO PRODUCES HIGHER SALES.

IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT HAS COVERED WALKWAYS IN FRONT OF ALL THE WAY DOWN, NOT JUST AN AWNING OVER THE DOOR, BUT SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO SHOP EVEN IN INCLEMENT WEATHER THAT IS GOING TO RAISE THE BAR AND INCREASE SALES TAXES FOR THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEREFORE THE CITY ON THE PHASING CAN ALSO WENT THROUGH THAT.

SO I WON'T BELABOR IT.

BUT THE KEY PIECE TO THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, SINCE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS A LITTLE HESITANT TO MOVE FORWARD IMMEDIATELY ON A LIBRARY, WE WANT TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FUTURE.

ONCE YOU DO INVESTIGATE, I TOTALLY BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION AS WAS PREVIOUS.

BUT HOLD ON TO ME.

I'VE GOT SOMETHING HERE.

OH, THERE IT IS.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS OFFER UP SOME TIME.

AND AS YOU KNOW, OUR FIRST PHASE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS IMMEDIATE IN TERMS OF HAVING TO PUT IN STREETS, UTILITIES OR ENGINEER THAT SPACE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF LATITUDE IN TERMS OF TIME WHERE WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO HOW EXACTLY IT IS LAID OUT.

WE'D LIKE TO WORK OVER THIS NEXT TWO WEEKS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INCENTIVES.

WE'D ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME DOES THE CITY NEED TO DO THAT FURTHER STUDY SO THAT WE'RE ALSO UNDERSTANDING WHEN CAN WE KIND OF KICK THAT OFF? BUT IT COULD ACTUALLY END UP BEING SOME THINGS WORK OUT FOR A REASON.

AND IF IT COMES TO THE POINT WHERE THE CITIZENS AND EVERYONE STILL WANTS THAT LIBRARY AND A PERFORMING ARTS AND IT GOES HERE AND IT'S AT A NEW LOCATION SOMEWHERE IN THIS RED AREA AND WE DESIGN SOMETHING ELSE AROUND IT.

IT COULD BE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS BECAUSE NOW WHAT WE JUST DID WAS WE INCREASED THE REVENUE BY ADDING THE NEW PORTION OF THE LOFTS OVER RETAIL TO THE CITY.

WE CAN DESIGN IT AND DO ALL THE ENGINEERING UP FRONT WHEN WE NEED TO PUT IN THE REST OF THIS SO THAT IT'S NOT STALLED.

AND THEN WE COULD ENCAPSULATE THE ENTIRE PARK AND FOUNTAIN AREA WITH ANOTHER EXTRAORDINARY ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE LIKE THE LIBRARY AND PERFORMING ARTS THAT STILL HAS THE VIEW, THE CONTEXT AND EVERYTHING THAT SURROUNDS THAT PARK.

SO WE SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CITY.

HAND IN HAND AND HELP IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN.

BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE STILL AS A AS A DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY OR AS A DEVELOPER, BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT THAT FACILITY WOULD WORK BEST AT THIS LOCATION AND BRING THE MOST OPPORTUNITY TO THAT AND ALSO WITH ANY KIND OF INVESTMENT BY THE CITY.

WHEN YOU ARE DOING THE FIDUCIARY RELATIONSHIP TO THE CITIZENS ABOUT WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY AS YOU LOOK AT, I'M SURE YOU WILL FIND THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GENERATE ANY MORE REVENUE BY THE PURPOSE OF THAT CITY AND BRINGING DESTINATION TRAFFIC IN TO SPEND ADDITIONAL MONEY THAN LOCATING IT AT THIS LOCATION.

SO WE WANT TO OFFER THAT UP AND HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY ABOUT HOW WE WOULD DO THAT.

AND I WILL SAY TO THIS LITTLE RED AREA IS VERY GENERAL.

ALL OF THAT AREA IN THAT CORNER IS UP TO DISCUSS HOW BEST TO LAY THAT OUT AND DEVELOP IT, IF THAT'S THE CASE.

I ALSO JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT.

SO I'M NOT REMINDING YOU.

I'M EXPLAINING TO YOU THAT EVEN FROM THE LAST PLAN THAT WE JUST SUBMITTED, WHICH HAD A PROJECTED TAXABLE VALUE OF ABOUT 302 MILLION TO THREE POINT THIRTEEN, THE ALTERNATE PLAN BECAUSE NOW THE LIBRARY GOES AWAY AT LEAST TEMPORARILY AND REPLACED BY A REVENUE.

GENERATOR AND TAXABLE VALUE.

NOW THE NEW PLAN ACTUALLY INCREASES IN TAXABLE VALUE TO ABOUT THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS MILLION ON THIS PROJECT.

THERE'S EMPLOYEES NOW ON THAT PORTION AND WE GO FROM ABOUT 1200-1261 EMPLOYEES, EVEN THOUGH THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE SLIGHTLY DROPPED.

AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT TAXABLE SALES, THE NEW PLAN IS ABOUT 65 MILLION IN SALES THAT WOULD GENERATE TAXES.

SOME OF THE ESTIMATES ON SOME OF THE STUDIES THAT WERE DONE SHOWED THAT JUST

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AND WE WANT TO BE A BIG DRIVER OF FOLKS COMING TO SOUTHLAKE.

WE ALSO THINK THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY OUR MY CURRENT PARTNERS WITH ED AND LAIRD SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS, THE NEW PARTNERS ARE SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS.

THESE PEOPLE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING SOUTHLAKE CONTINUE TO BE GREAT, EXPAND AND BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN.

AND AND THAT'S A HIGH BAR.

WE'RE ALREADY INCREDIBLE.

WE WANT TO GET ONTO A NATIONAL STAGE WITH THE CULINARY INSTITUTE, WITH ALL OF OUR CULINARY OPTIONS AND EXPERIENCES AND BE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY WELL KNOWN ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

I PUT THIS UP HERE JUST IN CASE ANYONE'S GOT ANY QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE VISUAL, BUT I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR. TERRELL.

IT'S WONDERFUL.

YOU'RE A VISUAL STORYTELLER, AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO JUST ENVISION YOURSELF INSIDE YOUR DEVELOPMENT AS YOU'RE TALKING.

IT'S REALLY GORGEOUS.

THE GUYS, BEFORE I OPENED IT UP TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, LET ME FIRST SAY I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU GUYS DID IN TWO WEEKS BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS NOT EASY OR CHEAP.

I APPRECIATE GOING AND BUILDING US AN ALTERNATIVE BECAUSE I THINK WE TALKED A NUMBER OF TIMES.

AND YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL FEELING IS THAT SOUTHLAKE DESERVES A LIBRARY LIKE WHAT YOU PROPOSED AT CARILLON PARK.

BUT AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, WE'RE FIDUCIARIES FOR ALL OF SOUTHLAKE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT ALL OF THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE FEEL LIKE THEIR VOICES HAVE BEEN HEARD BY COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHY I FAVOR ALTERNATE B.

GOING WITH THE RESIDENTIAL OVER THE RETAIL AND THEN LEAVING A SPACE FOR US TO DO OUR STUDIES AND OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

I'M ALSO PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TONIGHT TO PUT TOGETHER WHAT I GUESS WE'LL CALL THE LIBRARY STUDY GROUP UNLESS THEY CAN THINK OF A BETTER NAME, FRANKLY.

THAT ONE'S KIND OF WEAK.

I'M SURE THEY CAN.

BUT THIS STUDY GROUP IS GOING TO BE SPECIFICALLY INTENDED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT SITES ACROSS THE CITY, INCLUDING CAROL PART AND FIGURE OUT WHAT SOUTHLAKE WANTS FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF THE LIBRARY.

THE GROUP IS GOING TO BE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AND COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PULL TOGETHER A TEAM THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TOWN HALLS.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF THESE PROPOSALS, NOT ONLY YOURS BUT OTHER OPTIONS, AND AS WELL AS THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY THAT WE WE'VE DONE WITH A CONSULTANT TO THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE AND SAY, WHAT DO YOU WANT? WE'RE GOING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM.

WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR STUDIES.

I THINK THE SIX MONTHS THAT YOU PROPOSED IS A PERFECTLY REASONABLE TIME FRAME.

I MEAN, IF IT LASTS A LITTLE LONGER OR GOES SHORTER, I'M SURE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK OUT AS WE GO.

YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH RESPECT, ALSO FOR THE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS AND THE TIME CONSTRAINTS THAT YOU'RE UNDER AS WELL.

SO IF YOU COULD WORK WITH STAFF AS THEY DEVELOP THE STUDY GROUP AND TALK THROUGH WHAT EXACTLY THAT MEANS FOR YOUR TIME FRAME, THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE IS THAT WORK FOR YOU? WE WILL DO THAT EXACTLY.

AND LET ME JUST ASSURE YOU, THIS DEVELOPMENT TEAM, BOTH THE NEW PARTNERS AND THE OLD ARE COMMITTED TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THIS CITY TO MAKE THE BEST PROJECT POSSIBLE.

WE WILL ALSO WOULD LOVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE LIBRARY STUDY BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WERE HOPING, WISHING, PRAYING THAT IT GOES HERE.

I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOTIFIED AS WELL OF ALL THOSE MEETINGS.

AND IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND I GOT TO TALK WITH THE PARTNERS AS WELL.

BUT I WOULD LOVE TO AT LEAST PLAY AROUND WITH SOME LAYOUTS.

SOME SITE PLANS, YEAH.

FOR THIS THAT WE CAN PUT UP AGAINST ANY OTHER OPTIONS TO SHOW HOW THIS COULD BE DONE.

TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT.

YEAH.

AND TO THE RESIDENTS OF CARILLON THAT HAVE BEEN HOPING AND PRAYING FOR A LIBRARY, THIS IS NOT A NO, THIS IS A.

RIGHT.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM SOUTHLAKE, FROM ALL THE SOUTHLAKE.

AND THEN LET'S SEE WHERE THIS GOES.

PERFECT.

FOR SURE.

COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. TERRELL AT THIS TIME? IS THE FEELING FROM COUNCIL THAT THE ALTERNATE PLAN GOING WITH MIXED USE BUILDING INSTEAD OF THE LIBRARIES OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO PURSUE AT THIS POINT? YES, I MEAN IT AS MUCH AS IT PAINS ME NOT TO HAVE MY GIANT LIBRARY, IT REALLY IS, AS MAYOR HUFFMAN SAID, I'M BEING FACETIOUS.

I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING, THE BEST THING.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE LEARNED IN THIS COMMUNITY, WHEN YOU DON'T GET STAKEHOLDER

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AND I THINK IN THE END, WE'LL END UP WITH A LIBRARY WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF AND WE'LL ALL FEEL LIKE THERE WAS A LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT THAT'S NEEDED.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A NO.

IT'S JUST SAYING, LET'S JUST TAKE A STEP BACK AND PUMP THE BRAKES A LITTLE BIT AND MAKE SURE WE INVOLVED THE RIGHT PARTIES.

YEAH, I WOULD I WOULD AGREE.

AND I'VE BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER OF CARILLON PARK AND OF THE LIBRARY IN CARILLON PARK.

MY SISTER IS A LIBRARIAN AS MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW, AND SHE JUST MOVED HER FAMILY ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO LEAD ONE OF THE NATION'S BEST LIBRARIES.

WE, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, HAVE RECEIVED LOTS OF EMAILS SAYING THINGS LIKE WHO NEEDS BOOKS? NOBODY'S READING ANYMORE.

AND I WOULD REMIND EVERYBODY THAT LIBRARIES ARE A COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE WHERE THINGS LIKE PODCAST RECORDING STUDIOS ARE HAPPENING REALLY CREATIVE, COOL HANGOUT SPOTS FOR OUR TEENAGERS, AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE LIBRARIES OF THE FUTURE.

AND SOUTHLAKE BEING EXCELLENT IN EVERYTHING FROM SPORTS TO ACADEMICS TO EVERYTHING.

IT DOES PAIN ME TO HAVE OUR LIBRARY IN THE BASEMENT.

SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GREAT COMPROMISE.

IT GIVES US SOME TIME TO DO THE RESEARCH AND TO HAVE A TASK FORCE.

I DO THINK THE TASK FORCE NEEDS A BBEAUTIFUL LAYOUT.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE THAT SOUTHLAKE NEEDS TO STAY OPEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

WE NEED TO COMPETE WITH ROANOKE AND WESTLAKE AND LEGACY WEST AND CLEAR FORK AND ALL THESE OTHER PLACES.

WE NEED CHEF DRIVEN RESTAURANTS.

WE NEED REALLY COOL PLACES TO GO.

AND SO THE WATER FEATURES INCREDIBLE.

I'M SO GLAD THAT IT WILL WORK AND IT WILL BE BEAUTIFUL.

I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HIRED THE BEST OF THE BEST, SO I FULLY SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT GO.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL COME IN FRONT OF OR SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL SO THAT WE MAKE SURE WE GET OUR CHEF DRIVEN RESTAURANTS.

SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMMUNITY GETS WHAT IT DESERVES, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMSON? WE'RE GOING AROUND, HUH? WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

SURE.

YEAH, I MEAN, I VOTED.

I HAVE VOTED FOR THIS EVERY TIME IT'S COME OVER THE COURSE OF SEVEN YEARS, SO I CONTINUE TO SUPPORT IT.

IT'S WONDERFUL.

I, MUCH LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER LEPP SAID, WE SIT IN A WONDERFUL TOWN SQUARE THAT THAT WE'VE BUILT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE WONDERFUL, BUT WE DO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO INNOVATE AND BE COMPETITIVE.

I WAS TRAVELING THIS WEEK IN TEMPE, ARIZONA, AND IT JUST AS I WAS JUST I DON'T KNOW WHY I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS, I GUESS, BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL.

BUT WHENEVER I GO ON BUSINESS MEETINGS, I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT WHERE DO WE GO? WE GO TO THE HIP PLACES.

THAT'S WHERE EVERYONE WANTS TO GO.

YOU GO TO THE HIP PLACES FOR A REALLY COOL RESTAURANT THAT MAYBE YOU DON'T GET ELSEWHERE AND YOU LOOK AROUND AND THERE'S RESIDENTIAL AND THERE'S PEOPLE MILLING ALL ABOUT.

THERE'S AN ENERGY AND THAT'S WHAT I ENVISION HERE, AND I THINK IT ADDS A DIFFERENT PIECE TO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN TOWN CENTER.

I THINK IT'S JUST IT'S COMPLEMENTARY TO THAT.

DID I SET MY TIME LIMIT? WHO'S CUTTING COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMSON OFF? HE ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAVE A TIME LIMIT.

SO, SO I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO WORK OUT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THIS.

WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE LIBRARY.

ACTUALLY, THE WAY YOU'VE GOT THIS IN THAT CORNER THERE IS REALLY INTRIGUING TO ME.

FIRST THING I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT OF NOISE IS ON 114.

I WOULD THINK IF YOU BUILT A LIBRARY THERE AND NOW YOU CAN PRETTY WELL INSULATE THINGS TO WHERE YOU DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.

BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF POTENTIALLY IF WE HAD A LIBRARY THERE, A LIBRARY OR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, WHEREVER THIS GOES OFF OF RIGHT OFF OF 114, IT'S A REAL CALLING CARD WHEN PEOPLE COME THROUGH AND THEY SEE A BIG, YOU KNOW, A BIG BUILDING LIKE THAT AND KNOW WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

SO I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.

I ALSO SHARE COUNCIL MEMBER LEPP'S THOUGHTS AROUND TRYING TO TIE THIS THING TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT WITH SOME PERFORMANCE AGREEMENTS AROUND COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD WITH YOU AND I'VE SAT IN THE SAME ROOM MANY, MANY TIMES.

THIS HAS BEEN, HOWEVER, LONG.

IT'S BEEN 13 YEARS, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE ORIGINAL FIRST APPRAISAL OR FIRST APPROVAL WAS 08.

YEAH, WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY THAT WE GET IT DONE THIS TIME AND THAT IT DOESN'T END UP JUST BEING A BIG RESIDENTIAL PROJECT BECAUSE THE TRADE WINDS CHANGE A LITTLE BIT WITH THE ECONOMY.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME ASSURANCES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL THIS CULINARY STUFF IS FANTASTIC, RIGHT?

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YEAH.

MR. CARROLL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THAT IS A DIFFERENCE OF BETWEEN TWO WEEKS AGO.

AND NOW YOU GUYS ARE ASKING TO FOR US TO RELEASE THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS AS PHASE ONE VERSUS I THINK PRIOR YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE PARK AND SOME OTHER THINGS BEFORE RESIDENTIAL LOTS WOULD GO.

AND INFRASTRUCTURE, BY THE WAY, IS STILL GOING TO BE BUILT IN ADVANCE.

SO INFRASTRUCTURE ON COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL HAS TO ALL BE DONE FIRST.

OK, WE ARE NOT STARTING WITH RESIDENTIAL AND LEAVING OFF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WE WILL SET IN STONE ALL OF WHAT YOU SEE IN THE VERY LIGHT LAVENDER PURPLE, EVEN IN THE COMMERCIAL THAT HAPPENS AT THE EXACT SAME TIME AS THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT'S GOING TO SET THE SPOT.

AND THAT INCLUDES PLUMBING, ROADS, UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, ALL UTILITIES AND ROADWAYS.

CAN YOU? CAN YOU DO THAT, THOUGH, IN THE SHADED OUT POSSIBLE LIBRARY AREA, NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO SIT ON TOP? WE CANNOT DO THAT.

SO ANYTHING YOU SEE AS YOU LOOK AT THIS, THAT'S WHY ALL ALONG, EVEN IN THE OPTION A.

WE STOPPED RIGHT HERE WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO INFRASTRUCTURE IS RIGHT IN HERE AND UP THROUGH HERE TO HERE.

THIS HAS TO STILL BE DESIGNED.

SO THIS WILL COME IN WHEN THIS IS BUILT.

BUT BECAUSE IT'S GOT TO BE ENGINEERED, BUT ALL OF THIS WILL COME IN, WHICH SETS IN PLACE ALL OF THIS.

THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LATER PHASE.

THAT'S WHAT'S ALSO GIVING US THE LATITUDE AND THE TIME TO WORK WITH THE CITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE ENGINEERING RIGHT NOW ON THIS SECTION, AND IT LEAVES US SOME OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER AND COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WORKS FOR BOTH THE CITY AND US SHOULD THE CITY DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LIBRARY AT THIS LOCATION.

SO, SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE TALKING THROUGH THIS WITH US BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF US, AS WELL AS A LOT OF RESIDENTS ACROSS SOUTHLAKE, ARE FEARFUL OF THIS BECOMING HINES PART TWO, RIGHT? RIGHT.

I KNOW YOU GUYS, THERE'S SOME BIG DIFFERENCES.

YOU GUYS ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT BY THE DEVELOPER IN ADVANCE ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE BEFORE ANYTHING STARTS RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL.

WE WILL HAVE TO SPEND NUMEROUS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THE COMMERCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST, AND THAT'S CAPITAL COST THAT YOU GUYS ARE BEARING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

OK, OK, OK.

WELL, I IMAGINE WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AND THOUGHTS ON THAT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBINS? SO I LIKED THE PLAN IN 2018, AND I THINK THE PEOPLE OF CARILLON THAT BOUGHT THEIR HOUSES OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS PREPARED AND WANTED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

I THINK THEY DESERVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

MY BIGGEST DISCOMFORT IS THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE.

I THINK THAT THAT EVERYTHING YOU'VE GOT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH EVEN THE BUFFER ZONE THAT WAS ON THE 18 PLAN ON THE THE NORTH SIDE AND EVEN THE ADDITIONAL FIVE.

I'M VERY, VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE REST OF THE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE I WANT THIS TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS YOU GUYS SAY IT'S GOING TO BE.

AND THEN I WANT IT TO GROW UP TOP.

AND IF YOU PUT THE RESIDENTIAL IN NOW, YOU HAVE NOWHERE FOR IT TO GROW.

SO I LOVE FOR THIS TO BE A PIECE THAT WE SEE LIKE WE SAW HERE IN TOWN SQUARE, WHERE WE BUILT THE FRONT HALF.

AND THEN AS WE SAW THE SUCCESS OF THAT, WE GOT TO BUILD THE BACK HALF.

AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS BECOME THE TWENTY EIGHT TO TWENTY ONE VERSION GROW INTO THE 2018 VERSION.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE DESTINATION THAT THE PEOPLE OF CARILLON WANT, AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY BECOMES THAT DESTINATION SPOT FOR SOUTHLAKE IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

OK.

COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY? YEAH, SO I'VE DRIVEN BY THIS EVERY DAY, MANY TIMES A DAY FOR 15 AND A HALF YEARS AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT HAPPEN.

AND I DID.

I ALSO DID LIKE THE 2018 VERSION, BUT THIS VERSION, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS THE WORLD CHANGES, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO CHANGE WITH THAT, RIGHT? SO BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT RELEASING THE ENTIRE RESIDENTIAL PIECE, AND SO I WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

BUT AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT NOT NOT HAVING THE PARK INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, THAT PIECE OF THE PREVIOUS PLAN TWO WEEKS AGO.

I PREFER SO, BUT PHENOMENAL JOB.

YOU KNOW, I I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A LIBRARY AND PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, OF COURSE, BUT I THINK ITS DUE DILIGENCE ON OUR PART TO TO TALK TO OUR CITIZENS AND HAVE SOME TOWN HALLS AND MAKE SURE IT'S THE RIGHT PLACE.

I THINK IT MAKES SENSE HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, I WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, SO WE'LL DO THE RIGHT THING AND AND DO THAT.

AND LET'S LET'S HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY HAS TO SAY.

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YOU SAID THAT A BETTER SPOT FOR IT.

SO.

BUT THAT'S JUST I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO DRIVE BY AND SEE THIS EVERY DAY.

SO I'M JUST HESITANT ON THE THE RELEASING THE 79, BUT I THINK WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT AND HERE.

PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

ABSOLUTELY.

I WILL SHARE THE I WANT TO WAKE UP IN THE MORNING LOOKING OUT OVER THE FOUNTAIN.

YOU KNOW, AND I DO WANT TO ADDRESS TWO OF YOUR CONCERNS ONE ON THE MOVEMENT OF THE THE RESIDENTIAL, THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FIRST.

I ASSURE YOU THAT THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE.

JUST ON THAT PIECE IS FOUR TO $5 MILLION, PROBABLY ABOUT $5 MILLION.

FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE? FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND $5 MILLION AND THEN NOT BUILD IN THIS LOCATION.

THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF VERY UNIQUE MEMBERSHIP, ONLY CLUB TYPE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THIS, THE RESTAURANTS WE ARE GETTING.

IT'S JUST ON FIRE.

WE HAVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TIMING.

TIMING IS EVERYTHING AND DEVELOPMENT AND IN REAL ESTATE, TIME KILLS ALL DEALS.

COVID, NIG EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE MOVE RAPIDLY TO MAKE THIS WORK AND TIMING IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.

YOUR SECOND CONCERN WAS REGARDING THE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PARK INFRASTRUCTURE.

A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY THAT'S THE CASE AND NECESSARY ONE.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE ONLY ASKING NOT THAT IT BE PUSHED LONG TERM, BUT THAT WE HAVE IT BUILT AND CONSTRUCTED BY THE TIME WE OPEN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

SO IT'S STILL CLOSE TO UPFRONT, BUT IT WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT TO BUILD THE PARK, THE FOUNTAIN AND EVERYTHING AND THEN HAVE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION FOR EVERYTHING GOING ON AROUND IT.

YOU'LL TOTALLY DESTROY IT.

SO WE HAVE TO LEAVE THAT AND DEVELOP IT AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE BIT INSTEAD OF IN ADVANCE.

WE'RE DOING IT SIMULTANEOUSLY.

AND YOU'RE OK WITH IF THIS GETS APPROVED, HAVING SOME SORT OF TRIGGER ON THE RELEASE OF THE CO FOR THE COMMERCIAL PIECE? YES.

TIED WITH COMPLETION OF THE PARK AND THE FOUNTAIN? WELL, WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE LANGUAGE THAT ASSURES COUNCIL THAT THAT PARK IS GOING TO BE BUILT AT A CERTAIN TIME WITH THOSE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

OK.

OK.

SO I'M CURIOUS, YOU JUST MENTIONED THE PRESSURE OF TIME ON THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

EVERYTHING.

AND I GET THAT.

I THINK THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS WHERE WE WANT TO SEE THINGS, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO DRAW PEOPLE IN.

WHAT'S THE PRESSURE ON THE RESIDENTIAL? WHY DOES THAT INFRASTRUCTURE NEED TO BE DONE IN PHASE ONE? WELL, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE REVENUE GENERATED TO MAKE ALL THIS WORK.

UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO FINANCE, IN WHICH CASE, WE WILL TAKE THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YEAH, JON.

JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL TALKING THE SAME LANGUAGE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE COMMERCIAL PIECE? YES, REAL QUICK.

WHAT IS THAT AGAIN? ROADWAYS? IT'S ALL OF THESE INSTANCES.

WE WOULD START WITH THE CITY TWO ON WHITECHAPEL AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD, WHICH IS THE UPGRADING OF THE TWO LANES TO FOUR LANES AND THE MEDIAN.

THEN, AS YOU LOOK AT FROM THIS ENTRANCE WOULD COME IN, THERE'D BE A SLIGHT STUB OUT HERE.

ALL OF THIS IS KIND OF LIKE PURPLE AND ALL THE UTILITIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH.

SO WE WOULD HAVE THE SPINE UTILITIES AND ALL OF THE ROADWAYS PUT IN PLACE AT THAT TIME.

OKAY.

SO THE ONE QUESTION AND I REALIZE THIS IS A TOUGH KIND OF ON THE SPOT QUESTION, AND IT MAY BE MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS DIRECTOR BAKER AND MAYBE EVEN DIRECTOR COHAN.

HOW CONVERTIBLE ARE COMMERCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO RESIDENTIAL? AND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND, MR. CHARLES INTENTS ARE 100 PERCENT PURE THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS THING.

BUT IF THE BOTTOM FALLS OUT AND IT JUST CAN'T BE DONE, IF $3 MILLION HAS BEEN SPENT ON INFRASTRUCTURE, ARE THEY REALLY LOSING $3 MILLION OR FIVE CONVERT OR FIVE, THEN CAN THAT BE CONVERTED, THOUGH, TO RESIDENTIAL? I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW CONVERTIBLE THAT IS OR HOW LOCKED THEY WOULD REALLY BE, AND YOU WANT ME TO RESPOND OR KEN, WHOEVER WANTS TO? YEAH, WE DO.

WE CAN GO AROUND THE HORN.

WE CAN BOTH.

WE CAN BOTH DO IT AND SEE IF WE COME UP THE SAME ANSWER.

SO HONEST THERE IS ALMOST NOTHING YOU COULDN'T POTENTIALLY CONVERT RESIDENTIAL.

ALL RIGHT, YOU.

BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE DESIGNED AND CAPACITY AND LOCATED FOR THIS PLAN.

SO IT WOULD BE YOU WOULDN'T.

FOR INSTANCE, BETWEEN THAT ROAD AND WHITECHAPEL, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO PUT IN SOME KIND OF RESIDENTIAL.

YOU COULDN'T DO IT.

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REMEMBER, TOO, THAT THIS DOESN'T JUST PUT IN ROADS AND UTILITIES, IT'S MASQUERADING FOR THE WHOLE SITE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MASS GRADING ACROSS ALL THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COME IN WITH THAT ROADWAY, PUT IN UTILITIES AND THEN MASS GRADE UP AT THOSE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

SO THIS IS BEYOND JUST THE UTILITIES.

IT'S ALSO MASS GRADING, WHICH LEVELS THE THE.

TIRE SITE AND PREPARES IT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO IT WOULD WHILE IT IS POSSIBLE, IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY CHALLENGING AND YOU'D BE WASTING A LOT OF UPFRONT MONEY.

[INAUDIBLE] WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THERE ARE SUNK COSTS.

IT MAY NOT BE FIVE MILLION A SUNK COST, BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THOSE FIVE MILLION THAT ARE SUNK COSTS THAT YOU CAN'T.

THAT IS CORRECT.

JUST CONVERT.

WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT ALL FINE.

AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT OF MY QUESTION? I DO.

I MEAN, I DO.

YEAH, YEAH.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IS GOOD BECAUSE UNDERSTANDING AND MR. TERRELL, YOU KNOW, WE TRUST YOU AND LOVE YOU AND YOUR PARTNERS ARE AWESOME.

YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IS, YES, MAKING SURE THE CITY DOESN'T REPEAT A MISTAKE THAT IT AGREED 2018.

AND NOBODY WANTS THAT INCLUDING YOU.

SO ALL GOOD QUESTIONS AND GOOD DISCUSSION.

OK.

AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR NOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS AS WE TALK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS WAS REGARDING WHEN WE PUT IN THE PARK, AND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WAS ALSO SETS SOMETHING FROM A COMMERCIAL SIDE.

IF YOU DO THAT.

BUT THE CITY WANTS TO CHANGE WHEN IT CONTRIBUTES.

IF THE CITY IS NOT CONTRIBUTING UP FRONT TO THAT PARK, THEN THE DEVELOPER CANNOT AFFORD THE ENTIRE THING.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING TO PUSH IT BACK WITH THE FIRST COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WHEN WE ACTUALLY GENERATE SOME REVENUE THAT OR ABOUT TO GENERATE REVENUE THAT HELPED PAY FOR THAT PARK UP FRONT BECAUSE WE GOT TO COME UP WITH A LOT OF MONEY.

AND THAT'S NOT FINANCEABLE.

NO, SURE.

SO ANOTHER QUESTION IN THIS, MAYBE, IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS.

OK.

HAVE YOU SELECTED BUILDER PARTNERS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OR? NO, IT'S NOT FAR ENOUGH.

OK.

OK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. TERRELL AT THIS POINT? OK.

STICK AROUND.

I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE MORE.

THANK YOU.

OK.

SO WITH THAT, THIS IS A FIRST READING WHICH IS NOT TECHNICALLY A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE COME TO TALK WITH US.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'VE GOT ACTUALLY ONLY THREE COMMENT CARDS FOR SPEAKERS, AND I'VE GOT A FEW MORE THAN THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RECORD THEIR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION AND JUST DON'T WANT TO SPEAK.

SO LET ME SAY WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE AND I'LL CALL THE SPEAKERS FIRST, AND THEN I'LL CALL THE FOLKS THAT JUST WANT TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD FOR THEIR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.

IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND AND YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SAY SOMETHING, OR IF YOU ALREADY HAVE CHANGED YOUR MIND, JUST LET ME KNOW AND WAVE AT ME OR SOMETHING AND COME ON DOWN AND WE'LL WE'LL LET YOU ADDRESS COUNSEL AS WELL.

SOUNDS GOOD.

SO THE FEW GROUND RULES ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENTS AND YOU GUYS, IF YOU WERE HERE LAST WEEK, YOU HEARD THESE BACK THEN WE GIVE THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS THERE.

WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND YOU START TALKING, IF THE RED LIGHTS ON THE MIC, THAT MEANS YOUR LIVE, YOUR GREEN LIGHT IS GOING TO GO ON WHEN YOU START TALKING, SO THAT STARTS YOUR TIMER AT ONE MINUTE TO GO.

THE YELLOW LIGHT WILL COME ON AND WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, THE RED LIGHT STARTS BLINKING.

SO WHEN YOUR RED LIGHT STARTS BLINKING, I'M GOING TO CUT YOU OFF.

OK, THIS IS NOT THE ACADEMY AWARDS, YOU DON'T GET AN EXTRA 30 SECONDS TO THANK YOUR AGENT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CUT YOU OFF AND MOVE YOU ON DOWN THE LIST BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE HEARING WHAT EVERYBODY HAS TO SAY ON THIS PROJECT AND THE OTHERS.

SO AS ALWAYS, PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO US AT COUNCIL, NOT TO THE DEVELOPER, NOT TO THE CROWD.

AND JUST KEEP YOUR COMMENTS RESPECTFUL.

WE DON'T DO BOOING OR CLAPPING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE EVERYBODY THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD AND TO LISTEN TO WHAT OTHER SPEAKERS ARE ARE SAYING.

SO WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER, NATAN TON-THAT, AT 2711 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

COME ON DOWN, SIR.

AND AS ALWAYS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

OK, MY NAME IS NATAN TON-THAT AND I LIVE AT 2711 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

AND I'M, I WOULD SAY THE LAST TIME.

SO IT'S BEEN TWO WEEKS.

I'M TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE THIS PLAN.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS PLAN FOR AT LEAST FOUR YEARS, SO I'M JUST DOWN CARROLL AVENUE.

I DRIVE BY THIS 42 ACRES FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS NOW.

THINKING ABOUT THAT, THIS THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

I'M A LITTLE NOT HAPPY THAT IT'S BEEN PUSHED BACK, YOU KNOW, UNTIL NOW.

JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN REALLY GET THIS DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR THIS DAY.

SO EVERY TIME WE COME AGAIN TO THIS PLACE, THERE'S ALWAYS MORE, YOU KNOW,

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I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER.

I MEAN, SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT HAS BEEN WAITING THIS FOR TOO LONG, AND I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT SPEAKER IS DERRICK MERWE, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

OK, SO MY NAME IS DEREK MERWE.

I LIVE AT 829 SIENNA DRIVE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

THE REASON I'M COMING UP TODAY IS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M THE PARTNER DEVELOPER THAT'S COMING IN.

THIS TEAM THAT'S BEEN CREATED IS SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS DON'T LOSE US.

DON'T VOTE AGAINST THIS TIMING IS CRITICAL, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL.

IT IS A CRUCIAL COMPONENT.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE 2018 PLAN.

I'M THE BUYER.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE 2018 PLAN.

BUT WE HAVE.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE AS IT RELATES TO WHAT PHASING AND WHAT PROGRESS AND HOW I PLAN ON DOING ALL THIS.

BUT PLEASE ASK ME QUESTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

OK, SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL CALL YOU IN MR. TERRELL BACK UP AND WE MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WE'LL GET BACK IN FAIRNESS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT SPEAKER IS JEFF MEISNER, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

ACTUALLY, TO CLARIFY, I'M IN SUPPORT OF 4A.

FAIR ENOUGH.

NOT NECESSARILY 4B, SO I'M JEFF MEISNER 401 PALLADIUM BOULEVARD, SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT FOR 27 YEARS, LAST SEVEN IN CARILLON.

AND BEFORE WE MOVED TO CARILLON, WE WERE KIND OF SOLD THE CONCEPT BY HEINZ ON WHAT THIS SPACE WAS GOING TO BE.

AND OF COURSE, IT NEVER BECAME THAT.

AND THEN HEINZ TRIED TO DO A PIECEMEAL APPROACH, WHICH I WAS ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO, BUT ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTED THE PARK AT CARILLON AND THOSE PLANS OVER THE YEARS.

I DON'T SUPPORT PLAN B.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NOBODY'S REALLY ASKED OR BROUGHT UP IS IT ACTUALLY TAKES AWAY THREE ACRES OF PARKLAND.

THE SECOND PHASE, WHEN THEY ADDED THE RESIDENTIAL ACTUALLY ADDED TWO ACRES OF PARKLAND, WHICH I FELT WAS GREAT.

THIS PLAN ACTUALLY TAKES AWAY THREE ACRES OF PARKLAND.

KIND OF SEEMS LIKE A BIT OF A BAIT AND SWITCH APPROACH HERE.

NOT PUTTING THAT ON THE DEVELOPER, I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE A GREAT JOB TRYING TO SCRAMBLE MAYBE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS PRIDED THEMSELVES ON ON ASKING FOR COMMUNITY INPUT AND INVOLVEMENT, AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN THIS TIME.

IF COUNCIL NEEDS MORE TIME TO REFLECT ON PLAN A., THEN LET'S TAKE THE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT.

WE'VE BEEN WAITING PERSONALLY SEVEN YEARS.

I THINK WE CAN WAIT A FEW MORE MONTHS.

IF YOU GUYS NEED TO DO A LIBRARY STUDY, DO THE LIBRARY STUDY.

BUT LET'S NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLAN, PLAN B JUST BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN SWITCHED FROM WHAT PLAN A COULD HAVE BEEN.

I MEAN, WE LOVED THAT PLAN, ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTED IT.

AND I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN SO CREATIVE IN COMING UP WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS.

I DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLAN THAT HAS PHASES THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT EVENTUALLY ARE GOING TO BE THERE AND FORCE A VOTE HERE.

LET'S TAKE THE TIME, DO IT RIGHT.

LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN WAITING SEVEN YEARS.

WE CAN WAIT A FEW MORE MONTHS.

APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO SOUTHLAKE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OK.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE CROWD WHO'S DECIDED TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT? YES, SIR.

COME ON DOWN.

IF YOU JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, JUST FOR THE RECORD.

DAVE DIGIOVANNI 417 PALLADIUM.

I HAD THE SAME KIND OF CONCERNS AS JEFF JUST HAD.

MY FIRST CONCERN, I KIND OF LISTED THINGS HERE.

THE ELEVATED PARK, HOW THAT SUDDENLY DISAPPEARED BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY NICE ATTRIBUTE OF THE WHOLE SYSTEM THAT WAS BEING DONE THERE AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOSING THOSE ACRES OF PARKLAND.

MY NEXT QUESTION, AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS CAN ANSWER THIS ABOUT THIS WALL BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE ACTUAL CARILLON PARK.

IS THIS GOING TO BE A WALL LIKE WE HAVE OVER HERE BEHIND CENTRAL MARKET? IS IT GOING TO BE SOME 15 FOOT CONCRETE WALL OR WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? NEXT QUESTION.

THE HOTEL IS THAT STILL INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT? AND MY FINAL QUESTION AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE BRASH, BUT THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN 18 AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LIBRARY.

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AND THAT'S MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.SO IT'S GREAT QUESTIONS, AND WE'LL BE ASKING THE DEVELOPER SOME OF THOSE LET ME ADDRESS THAT 2018 LIBRARY PLAN VERSUS NOW BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT.

SO BACK IN 2018, WHEN THIS ALL WAS APPROVED, THIS COUNCIL LOOKED VERY DIFFERENT.

THERE WAS SOMEONE DIFFERENT IN THE CENTER CHAIR.

I THINK ONLY TWO MEMBERS ON THE DAIS ACTUALLY VOTED FOR THAT 2018 PLAN.

BETWEEN THEN AND NOW WE HAD A PANDEMIC AND THE DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY WAS PUT UP FOR SALE.

THE LAND WAS PUT UP FOR SALE IN EARLY THIS YEAR.

OBVIOUSLY, ECONOMIC CONDITIONS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY THROUGH NO FAULT OF THE DEVELOPERS, THROUGH NO FAULT OF THE CITIES.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SINGLE PERSON UP HERE OR WHO VOTED ON THE 2018 PLAN WHO WISHES, WHO DOESN'T WISH THAT TWENTY EIGHTEEN PLAN WOULD COME TO FRUITION.

LOTS OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED, AND SO WHEN THE LAND WAS PUT UP FOR SALE, THE DEAL WAS DEAD.

I'M VERY THANKFUL THE DEVELOPERS STUCK WITH IT, AND MR. TERRELL STUCK WITH IT AND BROUGHT IN NEW PARTNERS AND FOUND PEOPLE WITH THE VISION TO SEE WHAT HE SAW AND WHAT WE ALL SAW.

BUT WHAT THAT MEANT WAS ALL THESE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE BACK THEN HAD TO BE REMADE.

AND SO IN THE TIME FRAME THAT WE WERE ALLOWED, WE REALLY I FELT AS MAYOR THAT WE DID NOT DO THE DUE DILIGENCE FOR THE LIBRARY PROJECT, CERTAINLY THAT WE DID IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE DISCUSSED CARILLON PARK IN 2018 IN 12 DIFFERENT EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.

WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED 12 DIFFERENT SESSIONS.

THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF DUE DILIGENCE, INCLUDING ABOUT THE LIBRARY THAT WENT IN TO THE DISCUSSION AND THAT FED INTO OUR DECISIONS AND OUR VOTES BACK THEN.

AND CERTAINLY THIS COUNCIL, THREE OF WHOM ARE NEW OR FOUR OF WHOM ACTUALLY ARE NEW AND NEVER SAW THAT 2018 PLAN OR VOTED ON IT DESERVE THE EXACT SAME OPPORTUNITY TO DIG INTO IT LIKE I DID WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL IN 2018.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I KNOW IT FEELS LIKE, OH, THE DECISION WAS MADE IN 2018.

BUT REALLY, ALL THESE DECISIONS HAD TO BE MADE ANEW ONCE THE LAND WENT UP FOR SALE AND NEW DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS GOT PULLED IN.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK I'VE STRESSED THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES.

I DO THINK THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE A COUNCIL AND WE ARE FIDUCIARIES FOR ALL OF SOUTHLAKE AND WE HAVE TO PUT EACH DEVELOPMENT THROUGH ITS PACES AS IT COMES TO US.

SO GOOD QUESTIONS.

AND I'LL ASK THE REMAINDER OF YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE DEVELOPER SHORTLY BECAUSE I THINK YOU BRING UP SOME GOOD POINTS.

OK, SO THE REST OF THESE CARDS, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD AS SUPPORTIVE OR ACTUALLY, I THINK THEY ARE ALL IN SUPPORT.

IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, LIKE I SAID AND YOU WANT TO COME TALK, ABSOLUTELY.

JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL BRING YOU DOWN TO DISCUSS WITH COUNCIL.

AND I'M QUITE CONFIDENT I'M GOING TO READ ALL OF THESE NAMES PERFECTLY.

SO WE'LL WE'LL GO FROM HERE.

SO LORI EGGER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

DAVID PRESTON DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

SIDNEY BONNET DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK OR RECORD HER SUPPORT.

ZHAO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

BOAO HOWE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD SUPPORT.

JOANN TERELL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

MELANIE RIEGER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

JENNY MARAM DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORTS.

TOMMY MCFALL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

LORENDA DI GIOVANNI DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDER SUPPORTS LILY PUSA DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

RODOLFO ELIZONDO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

SUE WILSON DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

TONY MARTIN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

GARY MARTIN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

LINDA HEYWORTH DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

ANGELA WEISS GARBER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT ON JOHN SAKARIYA.

DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDED SUPPORT.

FAROUK AZEEM DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

KAREN PRICKETT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

REMY FAIRCHILD DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORTS.

EDWARD CHIU DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

MATT TERRELL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

KATHLEEN TERRELL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

THOMAS TERRELL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

CAROLYN ALLEN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

JACOB TERRELL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

PAUL BOARD VITUS DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

KAREN KAVANAGH DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

MITCHELL MORGAN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD SUPPORT.

JAY WHITE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

DEBBIE MERWE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

CHARLES GRAHAM DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

KEVIN LILLIS DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

VALERIE TERRELL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

DENISE SHIRLEY DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

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KAREN CARTER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORTS.

JANET LILLIS DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK FOR RECORD HER SUPPORT.

MAY SHAM DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

ANNA MANCHESTER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORTS.

TERESA TONG DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

STEVE STARK DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

WILLIAM WOOTTON DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

DANNY BALSALKIN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

CINDY KINDER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT, AND DAVID PANTER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORTS.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO RECORD SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OR COME DOWN AND TALK? YES, MA'AM.

COME ON DOWN.

WELL, CAN YOU COME ON DOWN JUST OR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK, THAT'S FINE.

WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? JENNY MARCIANO.

OK, WHICH YOU DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK WITH.

RECORD YOUR SUPPORT.

JENNY MARCIANO RECORDING SUPPORT.

GOT IT! ANYBODY ELSE? YES, SIR.

OH, COME ON DOWN TO THE PODIUM IF YOU WANT TO TALK AGAIN.

OH, COME ON DOWN TO THE PODIUM BECAUSE WE KIND OF CATCH YOU ON THE MIC.

IF YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ONE MORE TIME FOR THIS.

ONCE AGAIN, DAVE DI GIOVANNI 417 PALLADIAN BOULEVARD.

I DO WANT TO KNOW THAT I DO SUPPORT THE PROJECT 100 PERCENT.

OF COURSE, WE'RE JUST NOTE HAVING MORE INFORMATION, AND I TRULY DO SUPPORT WHAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN DOING HERE BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE SOUTHLAKE EVEN BETTER.

SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AS SUPPORTING THIS.

I DIDN'T WANT TO SOUND NEGATIVE.

IT JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR.

COME ON DOWN.

MY NAME IS DAVE PRESTON, I LIVE ON 404 MONTPELIER IN CARILLON.

YOU READ MY NAME OUT EARLIER IN A CARD, BUT JUST WATCHING ALL THIS AND LISTENING TO HOW LONG THIS HAS BEEN BEING PLANNED AND BEING WORKED UPON AND HAVING BEEN A BUSINESS PERSON FOR, YOU KNOW, 40 YEARS, IT'S I GUESS MY IMPRESSION THAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE.

EVERYBODY DRIVES BY.

IT WANTS IT TO HAPPEN.

TRYING TO MAKE IT PERFECT MIGHT MAKE IT NEVER HAPPEN.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN DRAGGING ON WHAT, SEVEN YEARS OR SOMETHING? IF YOU WAIT TWO MORE YEARS, PEOPLE WILL GO TO WESTLAKE AND ROANOKE WHO ARE WORKING HARD ON THIS KIND OF STUFF, AND THIS OPPORTUNITY WILL POTENTIALLY PASS.

I'M STUNNED THE DEVELOPER HAS STUCK IN HERE THIS LONG.

IF I WAS HIM, I WOULD BE OUT OF HERE A LONG TIME AGO.

THIS IS A LONG TIME AND A LOT OF OBSTACLES HE HAD TO OVERCOME.

I DON'T KNOW THE GUY PERSONALLY.

I'M JUST SAYING IT'S KIND OF STUNNING TO ME THAT HE HAS STUCK AROUND THIS LONG.

IF WE DRAG OUR FEET TOO MUCH LONGER, IT MIGHT DISAPPEAR AND BE EMPTY FIELDS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND EVERYBODY THAT DRIVES BY IT EVERY DAY IS GOING TO STILL DRIVE BY AND GO, OH, I WISH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, AND IT WON'T HAVE BEEN POTENTIALLY.

SO I JUST THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

AGAIN, THE PERFECT IS THE THE ENEMY OF GETTING STUFF DONE.

YOU KNOW, WAITING UNTIL EVERYTHING IS PERFECT IS GOING TO BE MAYBE TOO LATE.

SO LET'S NOT LET THAT HAPPEN, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM.

COME ON DOWN.

NAME AND ADDRESS.

YES, PLEASE.

DENISE SHIREY 1801 ST.

PHILIP AVENUE IN CARILLON.

I'M ONE OF THE ORIGINAL RESIDENTS OF CARILLON WHO WAS PROMISED THIS PARK WAY BACK, AND I'M VERY UPSET WITH THE CHANGE IN THE PLAN B THAT JUST ISN'T GOING TO FLY.

I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY IN CARILLON IS GOING TO SUPPORT THAT.

WE'VE ALL BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THE LIBRARY.

WE'VE ALL BEEN REALLY PLEASED WITH THE FACT THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF LOT MORE LAND NATURAL SPACE PARK SPACE FOR CARILLON PARK, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAIN GOALS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO GET MORE PARK LAND.

YOU'RE LOOKING A GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH AND IT'S JUST JUST IT'S VERY UPSETTING TO ME AND I'M SURE TO A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN CARILLON THAT THIS IS DRAGGING ON SO LONG.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU? YOU GUYS HAVE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME NOW THAT THE LIBRARY WAS PROPOSED FOR THIS, AND YOU ALL SEEM VERY PLEASED WITH IT.

WE'VE HAD TWO VOTES ON IT, AND NOW HERE WE ARE BACK AT SQUARE ONE.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO DO A LIBRARY STUDY? HOW LONG IT'S TO THIS ELOQUENT MAN'S POINT.

IT'S YOU'RE LOOKING A GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH.

THESE ARE VERY RESPONSIBLE, REPUTABLE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THIS.

EVERYONE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

AND I JUST DON'T SEE THE POINT OF PUTTING THE LIBRARY SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN IN A BEAUTIFUL SPOT LIKE THIS.

SO PLEASE RECONSIDER.

CONSIDER THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN CAROLINE THAT HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS FROM DAY ONE.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO US TO KEEP BAITING US AND THEN PULLING AWAY, BAITING US AND THEN

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I'M TIRED OF IT, ACTUALLY, AND I'M REALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLAN.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF PLAN B.

I WISH I WAS, BUT I MEAN, I'M SURE KNOWING JOHN TERRELL, LAIRD FAIRCHILD AND [INAUDIBLE] .

THEY'RE WONDERFUL PEOPLE AND THEY'LL COME UP WITH A WONDERFUL PLAN.

THEY ALWAYS DO.

BUT WHAT WAS WRONG WITH PLAN A? NOTHING.

THAT'S ABOUT WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

PLEASE CONSIDER MY THOUGHTS, ESPECIALLY THE THOUGHTS AND THE PRAYERS OF EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN CARILLON, WHO HAVE BEEN PROMISED THIS FOR SO LONG.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES.

AND LET ME SAY IF AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, IF PLAN B IS WHAT COUNCIL APPROVES, WE ARE SPECIFICALLY EMBARKING AFTER IF PLAN B GO FOR GOES FORWARD AFTER THIS VOTE.

WE ARE.

TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE LIBRARY SHOULD BE IN CARILLON PARK, SO IT'S NOT A NO, AND I AM IMPLORING YOU TO COME OUT AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD AS COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AND COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY GET THIS GROUP STARTED.

SO THIS IS NOT PLAN B IS NOT A NO.

PLAN B IS FURTHER STUDY IS WARRANTED, SO PLEASE COME OUT AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD.

THAT IS CRITICALLY, CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? OK.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOW, AND IF I COULD ASK MR. TERRELL AND MR. MERWE TO COME ON DOWN, JUST MR. TERRELL, YOU GOT IT.

SO BEFORE WE ASK YOU SOME MORE QUESTIONS AND GET INTO MORE DISCUSSION, MR. DI GIOVANNI MENTIONED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I WANT TO ASK.

SO CAN YOU? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THERE WAS A THERE WERE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

WELL, SHOULD.

WHY DON'T WE JUST WAIT FOR THE LIBRARY STUDY? WHY DON'T WE WAIT FOR ANY APPROVAL ON THE LIBRARY STUDY TO FIGURE OUT AND THEN JUST GO FOR IT? BUT WHAT WE WERE HEARING FROM YOU LAST WEEK IS TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

I MEAN, WOULD YOU PREFER THAT WE VOTE ON OPTION B AND PROCEED OR WAIT FOR THE LIBRARY STUDY TO FINISH? LET ME ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE CONCERNS.

WHY OPTION B WOULD NEED TO TAKE PLACE ONE FIRST.

LET ME JUST SAY THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM SO APPRECIATES ALL THE RESIDENTS, NOT JUST THOSE IN CAROLINE, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD FOLKS SHOW UP HERE FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS THAT HAVE CONTINUED SUPPORT, AND I WANT TO ASSURE THEM THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY BECAUSE MS. SHIREY NOTED THE DROP IN ACREAGE JUST AS A PIECE OF INFORMATION, THE 12 ACRES THAT WE HAD FINALLY EXPANDED TO INCLUDE IT ABOUT TWO AND A HALF ACRES OR SO.

THAT WAS THE LIBRARY THAT WAS GOING TO BE COVERED BY THE LIBRARY AND THE PARKING LOT.

SO WITH THE LIBRARY GOING AWAY, WE HAVE ONLY FRACTIONALLY REDUCED THE OPEN SPACE.

SO THE GREEN SPACE IS FUNCTIONALLY THE SAME.

SO FUNCTIONALLY, THE OPEN SPACE IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO WHAT IT WAS PLANNED BEFORE, RIGHT? AND IF THE LIBRARY DOES INDEED GO ON ONE OF THOSE OTHER FUTURE SITES, IT WILL BE A FURTHER TO GO.

THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED AS TO WHETHER IT'S PART OF IT'S IN THE PARK, PART OF ITS ON OFF OF PAD SITES.

BUT WE COULD SEE AN INCREASE IN OPEN SPACE.

POTENTIALLY, PROBABLY NOT.

AT LEAST IT'LL STAY FLAT, BUT IT WOULD BE COVERED POTENTIALLY BY MORE PUBLICLY OWNED SPACE.

SURE.

JUST OCCUPIED BY A LIBRARY.

ADDITIONALLY, THE NEED IN TERMS OF ONCE THE CITY MADE THE DECISION TO PUSH THE LIBRARY OUT, THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT HOW QUICKLY WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE COMMERCIAL.

IF WE GO WITH A WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE OF THE LIBRARY, WE HAVE TO DESIGN SOMETHING UP FRONT FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

THE REPLACEMENT FOR THE LIBRARY IS SIMPLY MORE EXCITING PRODUCTS.

SURE, IT WILL BE ARCHITECTURALLY AMAZING.

IT WILL BRING IN EVEN MORE SALES AND IT WILL CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT.

WE WOULD NOT DO THIS UNLESS IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE SPECTACULAR AND WHAT WE BELIEVE THE CITIZENS WILL ENJOY.

I THINK A BIG PART OF THE CONCERN THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN OPEN SPACE, WHICH THAT'S JUST NOT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE WALL.

SO THE WALL STREET BETWEEN RIGHT HERE, LOCATED BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND SO FORTH.

SO THIS IS A ROAD AND IT KIND OF COMES DOWN.

THE TOPOGRAPHY HERE IS DIFFERENT.

SO IT, YOU KNOW, ON THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FLAT, BUT IT IS NOT.

THERE WILL BE A RETAINING WALL ALONG THIS SIDE IN ALL LIKELIHOOD.

AND THEN THERE WILL BE A EIGHT FOOT MASONRY TYPE WALL THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE SAME

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AND THAT WILL BE SIMILAR ALL THE WAY AROUND HERE AND HERE.

THIS IS SLIGHTLY DEPRESSED, SO IT'S GOING TO BE LOWER THAN THIS AREA UP HERE.

SO WITH THE RETAINING WALL BELOW THIS WALL, THE EIGHT FOOT WALL ABOVE IT, YOU WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT SCREENING STRUCTURE TO THE BACK.

PLUS, ONE OF THE THINGS IS ALL OF ANYONE WHO BUYS IN THIS AREA IS GOING TO BUY IN ADVANCE.

UNLIKE A CENTRAL MARKET TYPE SITUATION WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ESTABLISHED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND THEN CENTRAL MARKET COMES IN.

THIS IS GOING TO BE ALMOST SIMULTANEOUS CONSTRUCTION, AND EVERYONE WHO BUYS IN HERE IS CLEARLY GOING TO KNOW WHAT'S BEING BUILT RIGHT HERE, RIGHT? THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN WITH EYES WIDE OPEN IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

YOU COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF RENDERING OR SOME KIND OF TOPO VISUALIZATION OF WHAT THAT WALL IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

YES, WE CAN DO SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, SOMETHING SOMETHING SIMPLE, OK? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE THINKING THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THAT CENTRAL MARKET WALL.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOUR MISSION.

IT IS NOT GOING TO BE LIKE A CENTRAL MARKET WALL.

AND WHILE THIS THERE IS A THIS WILL BE ALONG THE BACK SIDE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DRESSED UP NICELY.

YEAH, I MEAN, AGAIN, IF WE DO IT INCORRECTLY AND DON'T PROTECT THEM FROM THAT, THEN THEN THEN IT'S GOT A PROBLEM FROM THE MARKETABILITY.

OF COURSE, OF COURSE.

AND CAN YOU JUST ADDRESS THE HOTEL? THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHERE'S THE.

SO I'M GLAD THAT BECAUSE I FORGOT TO ACTUALLY MENTION THAT AS PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS, WHAT WE ASK FOR IS THAT IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS IN THE PAPERWORK, THAT THAT CAN EITHER BE AN OFFICE BUILDING OR HOTEL BECAUSE I THINK THE OUR PARTNER DEVELOPERS US FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, THE COMMUNITY WOULD LOVE TO SEE A HIGH END HOTEL AT THAT LOCATION.

SURE, THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE COVID.

WE WOULD STILL LOVE TO PURSUE THAT AND ACTUALLY DO HAVE SOME INTEREST.

BUT NOW WHAT'S CHANGED IS WE NOW HAVE FOUR HOTELS IN THE CITY AND A LIMITED MARKET.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE CAN WE DIFFERENTIATE? WE DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO A HOTEL UNLESS A HOTEL IS COMMITTED TO US.

WE WANT AN ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS THE OFFICE FACILITY, IF THAT TAKES PLACE.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO USE CONSIDERABLE EFFORT TO TRY TO ATTRACT A HIGH END HOTEL JUST LIKE WE DID BEFORE.

PERFECT.

OK.

LET ME ALSO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT BECAUSE DEREK MERWE AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN EXCELLENT TO WORK WITH.

THEY HAVE BEEN PRODUCING SOME OF THESE DRAWINGS FOR US ON VERY SHORT NOTICE.

WE ARE LOCKSTEP IN THIS VISION.

SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THOSE FOLKS, WE WOULDN'T BE SELECTING SOMEONE TO COME IN AND WORK WITH US ON THIS PROJECT UNLESS THEY HAD THE SAME KIND OF VISION AND PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND WE TRUST THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FULFILL THAT VISION.

OK, THANK YOU.

MAYOR, ALSO YES.

YES, SIR JOHN.

COULD YOU CLARIFY THERE WAS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WITH REGARDS TO TO THE SENTIMENT THAT PERHAPS THE COUNCIL IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE BAIT AND SWITCH THING OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S HURRY UP AND WAIT AND THEN YOU PULL IT BACK ON US.

AND THEN AS YOU WERE INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THIS FROM THE START, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT THIS HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH SINCE 2008 AND THEN 2018? THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED AND READY TO GO.

YOU GUYS, NOT YOU, BUT HINES.

AND THEN AFTER THEM AND THEN YOU? CORRECT.

THE ORIGINAL 18, IT'S STILL IN PLACE.

IT'S ALL THERE.

IF ANYBODY WOULD ALLOW US TO BUILD THAT, WE WOULD.

YEAH, BUT THE MARKET WILL NOT ALLOW US TO BUILD THAT RIGHT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE VERY, VERY CLOSE DIALOGUE WITH THE ESPECIALLY THE FOLKS IN CARILLON.

SURE.

BECAUSE THEY'RE THE THE CITIZENS THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS SUPPORT.

I KNOW THAT THEY REALLY LIKED A.

AND WE LIKED A, TOO.

THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A, IS IF THE CITY CAN'T COMMIT RIGHT NOW TO THE LIBRARY.

SO WITH THE CITY MAKING THAT DECISION, WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE SLIGHTLY.

BUT WITH THAT CHANGE, WE WANT TO LEAVE OPEN BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THE CITY FINISHES ITS STUDY, I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL STILL WANT TO DO A LIBRARY ACROSS THE BOARD AND THAT THE BEST LOCATION IS STILL CAROLINE PARK.

AND WE'RE GOING TO RESERVE A SPACE THAT THE ULTIMATE DESIGN COULD END UP BEING BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD PLANNED IN A YEAR.

[02:35:01]

BUT YOU AGREE.

I DO WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING, THOUGH.

THE CITY DIDN'T MAKE THE DECISION TO PULL THE LIBRARY.

NO, JUST NOT.

DO IT WITH THIS RIGHT? WELL, WELL, I AM ENTIRELY WILLING.

ONE GENTLEMAN ASKED FOR US TO DELAY THE WHOLE APPROVAL PROCESS TO STUDY THE LIBRARY AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S APPETITE CITYWIDE TO PUT IT IN THE PLACE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TODAY.

I'M WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT WHAT WE'RE TOLD BY YOU GUYS AND FRANKLY, THE RESIDENTS OF CARILLON PARK THAT THEY'RE NOT WILLING THE WAY LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT, IF THAT'S WHAT I'M TOLD BY YOU ALL.

THAT'S TRUE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE THERE'S SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONFUSION THAT THIS IS THE CITY PULLING A LIBRARY OR THIS IS CITY MAKING.

THIS IS THE CITY STOPPING FROM A AN APPROVAL OF THE LIBRARY WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE THE LIBRARY RIGHT NOW.

IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SAYING WE'RE NOT READY TO VOTE ON IT RIGHT NOW.

BUT IF YOU'RE WILLING TO WAIT SIX MONTHS, WE CAN DO THE STUDY.

HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

NO, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO REACT FROM THE CROWD.

WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS CLEAR? THIS DEVELOPER IS PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A, IF THE CITY IS WILLING TO APPROVE THE LIBRARY.

UNDERSTOOD.

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

THE CITY IS NOT WILLING TO DO THAT TONIGHT.

RIGHT.

WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND HAVE OFFERED UP A WAY TO STILL GET THE LIBRARY IN CARILLON PARK.

THIS IS ONLY A INTERIM DEAL.

WE CAN'T WAIT SIX MONTHS WHEN THE CITY DECIDES AND THEN EVEN DETERMINES.

NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO.

RIGHT? SO YOUR PREFERENCE IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT A GUARANTEED LIBRARY VERSUS WAIT TO SEE IF WE CAN PUT THE LIBRARY IN CARILLON PARK WHERE YOU'RE ASKING, YES, THIS CITY CAN'T.

THE DEVELOPER CANNOT WAIT SIX MONTHS.

THAT'S ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT KIND OF HOW THAT THAT ALL UNFOLDED.

OK, BUT THE POINT BACK TO MY ORIGINAL POINT, THOUGH, IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME WAITING FOR A BULLDOZER TO COME.

THE ORIGINAL PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR A LONG TIME.

AND AND THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE, THOUGH, IS KIND OF RELATED TO THE WHOLE THE LIBRARY.

LIKE YOU SAID YOURSELF, JOHN, THE PANDEMIC COVID CHANGED EVERYTHING IT JUST DID.

AND I WOULD ASK PEOPLE TO CONSIDER THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN HOUSEHOLDS, THEIR OWN BANK ACCOUNTS.

EVERYBODY WAS AFFECTED DIFFERENTLY.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE IMPACTED VERY NEGATIVELY AS A RESULT OF COVID, AND THEY HAVE TO RECONSIDER THEIR FINANCIALS.

WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR RIGHT NOW? WHAT'S THAT HOUSE WE'RE GOING TO BUY? ARE WE GOING TO BUY THAT SECOND HOUSE? ARE WE GOING TO GO ON THAT VACATION OR ARE WE GOING TO PAY OFF THIS DEBT? LOTS OF CONSIDERATIONS.

THAT'S EXACTLY THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO HERE.

WE MANAGE A ONE HUNDRED AND SOMETHING MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET POST-COVID THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS PRE-COVID.

AND THAT'S THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY THAT A LIBRARY THAT LOOKED FANTASTIC IN 2018 MAY REQUIRE A BIT MORE.

YOU KNOW, OF THE SPECTACLES ON IT TO SAY, ARE WE STILL DOING WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERY RESIDENT IN THIS CITY? IT'S DIFFERENT NOW.

COUNCIL MEMBER, I 100 PERCENT UNDERSTAND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, I WAS NOT THRILLED AT THE LAST MEETING TO FIND THAT OUT BECAUSE SO MUCH PASSION GOES INTO THE VISION AND HOPING THAT THE LIBRARY WAS KIND OF DONE.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS IN THE SAME CONDITION AFTER COVID, AND IT MAY NEED TO REASSESS RIGHT.

WHAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO IS WE BELIEVE THAT GOING FORWARD, IT STILL MAKES SENSE.

WE'RE COMMITTED TO THAT LIBRARY.

WE HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL ALSO REACH THAT SAME CONCLUSION AND WE'RE SO COMMITTED WE'RE WILLING TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THE LAND TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WORK THAT INTO THE PLAN.

GOING FORWARD, IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE A GOOD COMPROMISE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SETTING THAT ASIDE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO STUDY THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE WHERE THE CITIZENS LIVES.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS KIND OF EARMARK IN THAT FOR US.

WE ARE PARTNERS IN THIS.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. TERRELL? YEAH, JOHN, HOW LONG IS IT? HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO TAKE, HOW LONG TO PUT IT IN? SO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY.

I THINK THAT WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY DO IS HAVE MORE OF A CEREMONIAL GROUNDBREAKING RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WEATHER PERMITTING AND SO FORTH.

BUT THEN THERE'S PROBABLY SEVERAL MONTHS OF DETAILED ENGINEERING THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE FOR THE MASS GRADING THE THE TRUE ENGINEER DRAWINGS ON THE ROADWAYS AND UTILITIES, ETC.

THEN ONCE YOU ACTUALLY FINISH THE ENGINEERING AND WE GET STARTED WITH IT, THEN IT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER NINE MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION THERE.

AND THEN TOWARDS THE TAIL END OF THAT, YOU CAN POTENTIALLY START SOME OF THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PUT IN ALL THE ROADS AND UTILITIES AND SO FORTH.

BUT BEFORE THAT CAN START, AND THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING BASED ON THE PHASES AND SO FORTH.

YOUR FIRST COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS OPENING 18 MONTHS AFTER THAT.

SO WHY COULDN'T? WHY COULDN'T WE TAKE THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AND FIGURE OUT THE LIBRARY GIVEN THAT SO EVEN SO, I AM.

[02:40:01]

WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS IN THAT AREA WHERE THE LIBRARY WAS SITUATED.

WE CAN'T HOLD THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE DO THE ENGINEERING FOR WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL LOFT OVER RETAIL, THAT ENTIRE AREA HAS TO BE PLANNED AT ONCE.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WHICH WE NEED TO ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, EVERYBODY WANTS US TO MOVE FORWARD ON COMMERCIAL AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

WE CAN'T WAIT WHERE THE LIBRARY IS BECAUSE IT'S INTRICATELY ASSOCIATED AND TIED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ADJACENT PIECE.

AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE A LIBRARY, IT WOULD BE TOTALLY DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY.

IF IT'S GOING TO BE THIS BUILDING, IT HAS TO BE DESIGNED BASICALLY THE SAME AS THE OTHER.

SO WE CAN'T WAIT SIX MONTHS ON THE ENGINEERING.

OTHERWISE WE'RE WAITING SIX MONTHS ON EVERYTHING.

AND THE THING ABOUT THE LIBRARY THAT'S SO INTERESTING IS I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE PERSON UP HERE SAY THEY'RE OPPOSED TO THE LIBRARIAN, CAROLINE.

NOT ONE PERSON.

IT'S RIGHT.

IT'S IS IT.

IS IT THE RIGHT CHOICE? IS IT THE RIGHT PLACE? THAT'S ALL.

THIS IS A STEPPING BACK AND SEEING BASED UPON THE LAND THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY, THE FINANCIAL SITUATION OF THE WORLD WE LIVE IN RIGHT NOW.

IS THIS THE BEST PLACE IT? TO YOUR POINT, IT MAY VERY WELL BE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, YOU DON'T MAKE THAT DECISION ON I THINK SO.

IT MIGHT BE A WELL THOUGHT OUT DECISION, AND I WOULD.

THE ONLY ALTERNATE COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT IT'S A FAIRLY EASY STUDY TO DETERMINE WHERE'S THE BEST LOCATION, AND I'M WILLING TO BET NINETY NINE POINT NINE PERCENT.

I BET EVERY DAY THAT THERE IS NOT ANOTHER SITE IN THE CITY THAT IS A BETTER LOCATION.

THE QUESTION IN MY MIND, AND I THINK YOURS IS FROM A FINANCIAL CONDITION, IS THE CITY WILLING TO BUILD A NEW LIBRARY? AND THAT'S THE STUDY THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.

AND ALONG WITH IT, CERTAINLY LOCATION.

BUT I HAVE ZERO DOUBT IN MY MIND KNOWING ALL THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS POSSIBLE THAT THIS WON'T COME OUT AS THE PRIMARY AND FIRST AND FOREMOST LOCATION.

AND THEN IT'S A QUESTION OF DOES THE CITY WANT TO AFFORD IT? YEAH, I DON'T DISAGREE.

I MEAN, I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS DISCUSSION THAT I THINK SOUTHLAKE DESERVES A LIBRARY LIKE YOU'RE PROPOSING.

I MEAN, I I WON'T LIE WALKING INTO COLLIERVILLE OR GRAPEVINE OR THESE OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES, LIBRARIES.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LOT OF JEALOUSY.

I MEAN, OUR LIBRARIANS DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB WITH WHAT THEY HAVE, RIGHT? BUT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LIBRARY AND A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER LIKE YOU'RE PROPOSING, I THINK IT WOULD BE PHENOMENAL.

BUT THAT'S IT COMES DOWN TO THE DOLLARS AND CENTS.

AND ANOTHER COMMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE NOW SO THAT AS WE START TALKING ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, CARILLON, WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY MAKING THIS SPECTACULAR SURE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD REQUEST IS AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS LIBRARY STUDY, THAT YOU DO IT WITH SOME IDEA OF WHAT YOU WANT TO BUILD BECAUSE AND THE REASON I SAY THIS IS IF THE CITY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT NEEDS A FIVE OR A TEN THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FLOOR LIBRARY, THEN WE WOULD NOT WANT IT IN CARILLON PARK.

ALL RIGHT.

IT IS NOT THE STATURE.

IT IS NOT THE DESTINATION DRIVER THAT ENDS UP BEING MORE LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD LIBRARY.

WE WANT SOMETHING THAT MATCHES THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES AND ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS AND BEING SOMETHING SPECTACULAR THAT OVERLOOKS THAT FOUNTAIN AND DRAWS DESTINATION TRAFFIC TO SOUTHLAKE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CLEAR THAT'S HELPFUL.

AND SO YOU GUYS WILL NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT.

AND IF IS ARE IF YOU'RE WILLING TO HELP US OUT WITH SOME SITE PLANS ON SOMETHING, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, I THINK.

OK.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBINS? YEAH, I'M CURIOUS.

SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I FELT LIKE THERE WAS A DIFFERENT KIND OF MENTALITY THAT YOU WERE COMPLETELY WILLING TO PUT THE RESIDENTIAL PIECES ON HOLD.

AND NOW I FEEL LIKE THAT'S TOTALLY CHANGED.

LIKE IT'S IT'S ALL OR NOTHING ON THIS DEAL.

AND I'M KIND OF CURIOUS WHY THAT'S CHANGED, BECAUSE NOW THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.

YOU SAID THAT YOU WON'T DELAY THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDOUT UNTIL THE COMMERCIAL IS DONE.

YOU SAID THAT THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE IS USED TO FINANCE THE COMMERCIAL PIECE.

THE RESIDENTIAL HAS TO GO FIRST SIMULTANEOUS WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE SAME LAST WEEK, TWO OR TWO WEEKS AGO.

OK, I GUESS WE WERE.

I MISUNDERSTOOD BECAUSE I THOUGHT THERE WAS.

I JUST AM NOT COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THAT'S I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, LIKE, I'M SURE HINES TOLD THESE SAME RESIDENTS, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS INCREDIBLE PLACE FOR YOU.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ALL THE HOMES AND WALK AWAY.

AND THEY DID.

AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU WILL, BUT IT'S NOT OUR JOB AS A COUNCIL TO TRUST THAT IT'S OUR JOB AS A COUNCIL TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS.

AND I DON'T SEE HOW WE DO THAT WITH DOESN'T HAPPEN.

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PROCEED.

DO WHAT? IF THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN AS WE HAVE PROPOSED, THEN WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROCEED IF WHAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THERE'S NOTHING.

IF WE APPROVE THIS AS IT IS, THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP YOU FROM PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUILDING SEVENTY NINE HOMES AND

[02:45:02]

AM I WRONG? I MEAN, IF I'M WRONG, I'LL ADMIT IT.

I'M JUST A DUMB DOC, BUT.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION, BUT AS I ALREADY EXPLAINED SEVERAL TIMES, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING PUT IN AND MASS GRADING IS GOING TO OCCUR TO ACCOMMODATE THE COMMERCIAL.

IT'S NOT THE SAME AS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ON RESIDENTIAL, SO WE WILL BE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT IF YOU SELL IT TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HINES EVER DID.

HINES NEVER SPENT A YEAH, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

TO ME, YEAH.

I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AD NAUSEUM.

WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THE HINDSIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY.

TO ME, WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.

YOU KNOW, THE BIG DIFFERENCE AND DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AND WHAT HINES DID IS YOU'RE PROPOSING TO ACTUALLY.

ON DIRT ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A SQUARE FOOT OF DIRT TURNED ON THAT SITE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PHASING.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

I, YOU KNOW, I MAY EAT THESE WORDS LATER ON DOWN THE LINE.

I DON'T THINK I WILL, BUT I TRUST THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL, AS YOU'RE STATING, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND $5 MILLION IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

I AM TRUSTING THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM THAT.

I'M TRUSTING THAT ONCE WE TURN DIRT ON THIS SITE, YOU SPEND THE MONEY.

WE'RE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU ARE PROMISING THAT WE WILL GET AGAIN, YOU KNOW, COULD BE WRONG.

I DON'T THINK I AM.

WE HAVE ALSO GOTTEN THOSE SAME COMMITMENTS FROM OUR PARTNERS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

OK, OK.

SO IN THAT SENSE, I MEAN, COUNSEL, WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH PROCEEDING FORWARD WITH THE WITH THE PHASING THAT THE THAT HE'S PROPOSING RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN, I'M NOT SO SURE IF THERE WERE, THEY WEREN'T GOING TO ACTUALLY TURN DIRT ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE WHEN THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND $5 MILLION ON INFRASTRUCTURE.

I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY CLEAR COMMITMENT THAT THAT COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

THOUGHTS.

YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK IT SHOWS GOOD INTENTION, I THINK THAT THERE'S NO WAY THAT MR. TERRELL AND A GROUP OF SOUTHLAKE PEOPLE WOULD STAND UP HERE, ESPECIALLY A FORMER MAYOR, AND HAVE OTHER INTENTIONS.

I THINK THAT IF HE'S GOING TO SPEND $5 MILLION BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE, HIS FULL INTENTION IS TO PROCEED.

LIFE HAPPENS AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO PIVOT, BUT I TRUST THAT IT IS GOING TO GO AS HE SAYS IT WILL GO.

LIKEWISE, I ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER LEVY'S COMMENTS AND I ALSO THINK, OK, WORST CASE SCENARIO, WORST CASE SCENARIO OF BOTTOM DROPS OUT AND WE'VE GOT SEVENTY NINE HOMES.

I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S MY WORST CASE SCENARIO.

AND I CAN LIVE.

I MEAN, IF THAT'S THE WORST THING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND IT, SO BE IT.

BUT I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE DEVELOPERS LINING UP RIGHT NOW TO DO THIS.

WE HAVE MR. TERRELL AND JOHN ANDI TRUST IT'S GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC PROJECT.

THERE'S STILL SOME WORK, SO WE HAVE TO WORK OUT.

THERE JUST ARE.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO WORK OUT AND BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THERE.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST THAT ARE GRAVITATING TO THE NEGATIVE ON THIS, WHICH IS, OH MY GOSH, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THIS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE LIBRARY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THIS.

BUT AGAIN, WORST CASE SCENARIO, LET'S SAY IT DEVELOPS JUST AS YOU'VE SHOWN HERE IN THE LIBRARY DOESN'T GO THERE.

THIS IS STILL GOING TO BE A SPECTACLE IF YOU CAN PULL IT OFF.

IT'S THE SAME THING WE SAID.

I MEAN, I REMEMBER LAIRD, HE'S BACK THERE BEHIND YOU, BUT I REMEMBER TALKING TO HIM IN 2018 SAYING, MAN, IF YOU GUYS CAN PULL THIS THING OFF, IT'S GOING TO BE A HOME RUN.

AND IF YOU CAN, AND IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A LIBRARY, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE A HOME RUN.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE FANTASTIC.

AND IF IT HAS THE LIBRARY, SO BE IT.

THAT'LL BE GREAT.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? JOHN, YOU PROBABLY ALREADY SAID WHY, BUT WHY IS THE ELEVATED PARK IN NORTHERN BELL TOWER GONE IN THE SECOND IN PLAN B? BECAUSE THAT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE PARK THAT WAS GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LIBRARY? OK, OK.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

YEAH, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TOO.

IS THERE IS THERE A WAY TO KEEP THAT BELL TOWER IN THERE SOMEWHERE ELSE? I MEAN, YOU REALLY SAW.

WELL, THERE BE NO PURPOSE FOR THAT BELL TOWER.

WE STILL HAVE TWO BELL TOWERS.

OH, YOU WILL.

OK, BECAUSE YEAH.

SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THEM GOING OFF AT CERTAIN TIMES AND SIGNALING THINGS THAT SOME AT MIDNIGHT.

WHAT'S THAT? OK.

YOUR RESIDENTS WILL LOVE THEM.

WILL WILL ALSO, YOU KNOW, DO EVERYTHING.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THE BELL TOWER THAT IS ON THE WEST SIDE IN THE DARK BLUE.

THAT ONE IS NOT GOING TO BE A FUNCTIONAL BELL TOWER.

IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE NOISE.

THAT'S MORE OF A STRUCTURE, A PIECE OF ART THAT IS GOING TO RESEMBLE BELL TOWER, THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE.

IF ANY OF THEM MAKES NOISE, THAT WILL BE THAT ONE.

AND THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE FOUNTAIN MUSIC.

[02:50:03]

AND JUST AS AS A REMINDER TO, I'VE SAID IT, SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONES.

THE CARILLON NAME WAS ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE EUROPEAN BELLS IN A VILLAGE THAT RANG TO BRING THE VILLAGERS IN.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

WE WANT THAT TO SIGNIFY.

THIS IS THE PLACE TO COME.

WE'RE RINGING OUR BELL.

COME SPEND YOUR MONEY HERE.

LIKE A DINNER BELL, JOHN, LIKE I.

THAT'S RIGHT.

CULINARY ARTS, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR NEW DINNER BILL.

THERE YOU GO.

SO SO I GUESS I JUST WANT TO SAY MY MY ONLY HESITATION AT ALL IS IS CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND YOUR CONTROL; RIGHT? WHICH IS WHAT'S HAPPENED FOR THE PAST FOUR OR FIVE, 10, 12 YEARS AND IS WHY SO MANY RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN AND SPOKE ABOUT THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH IT NOT BEING BUILT.

AND SO I FEEL THAT AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN ANYMORE, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU AT ALL, PERSONALLY, IT'S ABOUT WANTING THIS TO HAPPEN FOR EVERYBODY.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME MOST, I GUESS, CONCERNED.

SO WE ALL TRUST YOU, I THINK IN THE PROCESS AND AND IT'S JUST THIS IS A BIG DEAL.

SO, SO COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY, THERE IS NO ONE IN THIS ROOM WHO WANTS THIS THING BUILT FASTER THAN THIS DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

YEAH, WE OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT COSTS MONEY TO HOLD AND IS CURRENTLY NOT GENERATING A PENNY.

NO ONE IN THIS ROOM WANTS THIS TO MOVE FASTER THAN THIS DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

UNDERSTOOD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCIL? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. TERRELL? OK, JOHN, GIVE US A SECOND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ABSOLUTELY.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, SIR.

WELL, COUNCIL, WE'VE CHEWED ON THIS FOR A WHILE.

I'LL JUST SAY I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF VOTING AND MOVING ON TO SECOND READING.

OPTION B ALSO, LIKE I SAID IN SUPPORT OF THE PHASING, AS THE DEVELOPER HAS SUGGESTED, IF THERE'S DISCUSSION, HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ALTERNATE THOUGHTS.

TO ME, I FEEL LIKE THAT GETS THIS DEVELOPMENT DOWN THE ROAD ONE STEP CLOSER TO FRUITION.

I THINK THAT GUARANTEES THAT DIRT IS GOING TO MOVE, AND I THINK THAT PUTS THE DEVELOPER AND ALL OF CARILLON AND ALL OF SOUTHLAKE IN THE BEST POSSIBLE POSITION TO SEE FINALLY SEE SOMETHING ON THIS QUARTER.

THAT'S WHERE I AM.

WHERE ARE YOU GUYS? YEAH, I'M READY TO GO.

YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WE NEED TO CLARIFY, THOUGH.

ONE IS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DID TALK ABOUT COS FOR THE COMMERCIAL WOULD NOT BE ISSUED BEFORE THE PARK IS COMPLETED, RIGHT? YEAH.

MR. TERRELL? JOHN, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE TALK ABOUT TYING THE COS FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS TO THE COMPLETION OF THE PARK.

ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? OK? YEAH.

AND THEN I JUST NEED A LITTLE MORE CLARITY AROUND THE I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT SIX MONTHS.

I THINK PROBABLY THE DATE TO ROLL WITH, IF YOU'RE OK WITH THAT JOB WOULD BE JUNE 30TH OF 22.

THAT'S SIX-ISH MONTHS TO THE LIBRARY DECISION BY THE CITY.

RIGHT NOW AND THEN DURING THIS TWO WEEK PERIOD BEFORE THE NEXT ONE, AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THESE OTHER ITEMS, I THINK WE COULD ACTUALLY GET MORE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT TIME THE CITY NEEDS AND GET SOMETHING.

BUT I THINK FOR A PLACE THAT WORKS AND THEN AND THEN THE ONE PIECE, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT IF, HEY, IF IT WAS A 10000 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE STOREY LIBRARY, THAT'S NOT THAT DOESN'T FIT.

IT DOESN'T FIT HERE.

SO WE HAVE WITHIN THE MOTION KIND OF RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL THROUGH JUNE 30TH TO SAY, YEAH, WE DO WANT TO PUT A LIBRARY IN HERE.

BUT WHAT DOES THE DEVELOPER HAVE? I MEAN, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT'S THEIR RIGHT TO TALKING WITH? WE'LL BE TALKING WITH STAFF ABOUT THAT TO BY THE SECOND READING.

I THINK AS WE WORK AND TALK TOGETHER ABOUT EVERYTHING IN TOTAL, WE CAN KIND OF BETTER DESCRIBE WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING THERE.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT THAT WE BUY SECOND READING.

WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP EXACTLY WHO CAN DO WHAT BUY WHEN ON THE LIBRARY.

I THINK WE KNOW ON OUR SIDE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

WE HAVE TILL JUNE 30TH TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, YEAH, WE WANT TO DO IT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE YOUR EXPECTATIONS, TOO, AND HAVE THAT IRONED OUT SO WELL.

AND REMEMBER, TOO, WHILE WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE CITY, WE WON'T BUY EVEN SECOND READING HAVE A CONTRACT.

SO THIS WILL ALL BE KIND OF A AN AGREEMENT TO WORK IN GOOD FAITH, RIGHT? YES.

SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORK IN GOOD FAITH TOWARDS THAT END, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE TIME YOU PUT IN AND WHAT OUR RESTRICTIONS ARE, WE'RE GOING TO WORK IN GOOD FAITH

[02:55:02]

SO, YEAH, WORK WITH STAFF AND RIGHT AND CERTAINLY SOMETHING IN THE MCU.

AND EVENTUALLY THE 380 AGREEMENT CAN AND FROM OUR STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THE LIBRARY THERE.

I MEAN, THE LIBRARIES OF DRIVER.

SO AS LONG AS WE CAN GET THE RIGHT KIND OF LIBRARY AND PERFORMING ARTS OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT IS A DRIVE A DESTINATION TOO, THAT HELPS DRIVE TRAFFIC TO THE SITE AND IS AN INCREDIBLE FEATURE FOR THE CITY.

WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

YEAH, YEAH.

SO TO THAT END, IT PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE AS TO YOUR POINT, JUST THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING WHERE WE WORK WITH YOU GUYS IN GOOD FAITH TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT WORKS.

AND I MEAN, IT'S IT'S JUST PURELY CONCEPTUAL RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? WE CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

AND THEN AND THEN JUST AS A REMINDER TO PART OF WHAT WE PUT IN, THERE WAS OPTION A OR B, WHICH WAS OPTION A WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU THE 30 DAYS.

YEAH, THE VOTE TODAY, IF YOU WANTED TO GO OPTION A OR AND OR OPTION B AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE 30 DAYS.

BUT IF YOU'VE ALREADY KIND OF DETERMINED THAT 30 DAYS IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH, THEN WE'D NEED TO PROCEED ANYWAY.

SO ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOLIDAYS, I MEAN, DIFFERENT SCENARIO, MAYBE.

BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, LET'S GIVE LET'S GIVE IT TILL JUNE 30TH AND SEE WHERE THIS GOES.

OKAY, THAT WORKS FOR YOU GUYS.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM ME? COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS? I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, RANDY, YOU GOT EVERYTHING YOU NEED? I THINK SO.

LET'S GIVE IT A SHOT.

WE'LL GIVE IT A TRY, KEN.

WORK WITH ME ON THIS.

MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 7A, OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-464E, ZA20-0029, FIRST READING, ZONING, CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CARILLON PARK ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT AS TRACKS 1, 1D, 1E, 1F, 1G, 3A, 3A01, 3A03, 3A04, 3A04A, 3A05, AND 3A01B LARKIN, H CHIVERS SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 300 CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TARRANT COUNTY, TEXAS, LOCATED AT 1775, 1781, AND 1801 NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, 1840 RIVIERA LANE 201 EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD, 1700 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE, WHICH IS ADDRESSED AS 1900 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE BY THE TURNER APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND 100 THROUGH 300 EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114.

GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD, WEST OF RIVERA LANE AND NORTH OF EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114 CURRENT ZONING EMPLOYMENT CENTER ZONING DISTRICT.

SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 9TH, 2021IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER FIVE DATED OCTOBER 26TH, 2021.

NOTING THAT WE ARE APPROVING THE FOLLOWING VARIANTS TO THE DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER 634, THE MINIMUM STACKING DEPTH FROM STATE HIGHWAY 114 AND NORTH WHITE CHAPEL IS 150 FEET AND THAT APPROXIMATELY 40 FEET AND 110 FEET ARE PROVIDED IN THIS APPLICATION.

NOTING ALSO THAT WE'RE APPROVING OPTION B THAT WAS PRESENTED THIS EVENING.

OPTION B CONCEPT PLAN APPROVING THE NEW PHASING PLAN, WHICH REQUIRES THE DEVELOPER TO INSTALL THE PHASE ONE SIDE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH ROADWAY AND UTILITIES AND RESIDENTIAL SCREENING WALL AS SHOWN ON THE PLAN, AND ALLOWING THE DEVELOPER TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON ALL RESIDENTIAL LOTS FOLLOWING THE COMPLETION AND ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY.

ALSO APPROVING THE ZONING BOOKLET AS PRESENTED WITH EXCEPTION PREVIOUSLY NOTED IN THE MOTION.

ALSO NOTING WITH REGARDS TO THE SCREENING WALL THAT THE APPLICANT IS AGREED TO REPRESENT RENDERINGS AT SECOND READING, NOTING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED THAT CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE COMMERCIAL PIECES OF THIS PROJECT WILL NOT BE ISSUED BEFORE THE PARK IS FULLY COMPLETED.

ALSO NOTING THAT THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT HAVE AGREED ON A DATE OF JUNE 30TH, 2022 FOR THE CITY TO TAKE TIME TO ASSESS FUTURE LIBRARY LOCATIONS AND DETERMINE IF CAROLINE WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR FUTURE LIBRARY AND THAT THE WE'RE DIRECTING STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO BEGIN DETERMINING ACCEPTABLE CRITERIA FOR A POTENTIAL LIBRARY TO BE CONSIDERED FOR CAROLINE DURING THAT THAT TIME BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 30TH.

PRETTY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, GOOD, KEN, YOU SAID 2022.

YEP.

YOU WANT TO READ IT AGAIN? I'LL READ IT BACK TO YOU.

I DON'T THINK I CAN GET IT BACK OUT THE SAME WAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ROLLING WITH.

I THINK THE FIRST ONE SOUNDED GREAT.

OK, THERE'S A A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

AND THAT ITEM PASSES 5-1.

CONGRATULATIONS, AND WE WILL SEE YOU GUYS ON SECOND READING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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