NOW, GAVEL BACK IN HERE AT 8:29 OUR SIGN BOARD MEETING FOR NOVEMBER 18TH, MOVING DOWN TO [4. Consider: Approving the minutes from the November 4, 2021, Sign Board Meeting. ] [00:00:09] ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS REVIEWING APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING, WE'VE ALL BEEN PROVIDED A COPY AND A CHANCE TO COMMENT ANY QUESTIONS AND IT'S BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON OUR AGENDA. MAKE A MOTION DO WE HAVE A SECOND? VOTE PLEASE. PASSES SEVEN - ZERO. THANK YOU. [6. Consider: MSP21-0006, Master Sign Plan for Granite Place II] NOW, AS STATED BEFORE, I'M GOING TO GO. IF IT'S OK, MOVE ITEM NUMBER SIX UP IN FRONT OF ITEM FIVE, JUST HOLD TIGHT THERE IF YOU'RE NUMBER FIVE, WE'LL HOPEFULLY BE EXPEDITIOUS HERE. WE ACTUALLY APOLOGIES. HAVE WE HEARD ITEM NUMBER SIX IN OUR WORK SESSION EARLIER THIS EVENING SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE THING. I THINK WE CAN JUST CAMP ON THE APPROPRIATE PAGE, WHICH I GUESS DENNIS. WOULD THIS BE THE ONE YOU'D KIND OF HIGHLIGHT FOR US? YES, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO UPPER FLOOR SIGNS AND TWO LOWER FLOOR SIGNS ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION FACING BACK TOWARDS DIVISION STREET AND THEN ALSO PROPOSING TO UPPER FLOOR SIGNS ON THE, EXCUSE ME, ONE UPPER FLOOR SIGN ON THE WEST FACADE AND THEN ONE FIRST FLOOR SIGN ON THE WEST FACADE AS WELL. THESE THE SIZE AND AREA ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS WAS DONE ON THE PHASE ONE. BUILDING EXCEPTION IS ON LETTER SIZES ARE LIMITED TO 14 INCH LETTER HEIGHTS AND WOULD FIT WITHIN THAT PERMITTED SIGN AREA ON WHICHEVER FACADE. THESE ARE EACH ONE OF THESE PLACEHOLDERS IS FOR A SINGLE TENANT SIGN. ADDITIONALLY, THAT WAS INCLUDED IS A MONUMENT SIGN, WHICH THE MONUMENT SIGN CONFORMS WITH THE CITY'S MONUMENT SIGN REGULATIONS FOR ITS LOCATIONS. THERE'S NO VARIANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND THEN ACCENT LIGHTING ON THE LOWER PORTION OF THE BUILDING, AND THAT IS A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE COVERED IN WORK SESSION. I'LL BE GLAD TO REFER BACK TO ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE. OK, QUICK QUESTION. JUST I KNOW THIS IS A SIGN BOARD MEETING, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING I FORGOT TO ASK IN OUR LAST MEETING. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK IT'S STATE STREET, I GUESS THAT COMES OUT TO THE ACCESS ROAD. IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT ON 114? AND I THINK THERE'S SOME CITY PLANS TO JUST IN ADDITION TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, JUST TO EXPAND THAT ROAD. I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GOES ON RECORD AT SOME POINT. IN OUR CAPITAL PROJECT, THERE'S, THE INTENTION IS TO IMPROVE THOSE TURNING RADIUS OFF THE FRONTAGE ROAD INTO STATE STREET, AND THERE'LL BE SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT WE COORDINATE THAT TIMING WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE IT'S IN PLACE PRIOR TO COMPLETION. AND SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THE APPLICANT CAN KIND OF HELP WORK WITH STAFF TO MAYBE GET ALL THAT DONE AT THE SAME TIME PROBABLY HELPS EVERYBODY. I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TIGHT TURN IN THERE. ANYWAY, SORRY, WHAT REMINDED ME OF THAT WAS, I GUESS, DENNIS. THIS SIGNAGE REQUEST IS FAIRLY SIMILAR TO PHASE ONE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DR. SPRINGER. YES. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE'RE ADDRESSING 14 INCH LETTER HEIGHT, BUT YOU'VE GOT A FOUR INCH AREA UP THERE. SO IF SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A LOGO OF SOME SORT OR SOME SORT OF GRAPHIC THING THAT THAT'S NOT MENTIONED HERE AT ALL, SO IS IT THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT INSIDE THAT FOUR FEET? NO. AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, EVERYTHING WOULD BE HELD TO THAT 14 INCH UNLESS THE APPLICANT PROPOSES DIFFERENTLY OR RECEIVES A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION OR APPROVAL FROM FROM COUNCIL. WHAT THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED AT THAT 14 INCH LETTER HEIGHT IS TO POTENTIALLY DOUBLE STACK LETTERS. AND AS LONG AS IT FITS WITHIN THAT PERMISSIBLE SIGN AREA THAT'S ALLOCATED ON THE ELEVATION. WOULD IT BE A GOOD IDEA TO MENTION IN THE MOTION, THOUGH, THAT ANY LOGO SIDES WOULD HAVE TO FIT IN THAT AS WELL? YES, THANK YOU. I GUESS YOU'RE JUST KIND OF STATING, FOR THE RECORD, THAT THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE AND YOU'D HAVE SOME INDIGESTION OTHERWISE? THAT IS MY PREFERENCE. OKAY, I WOULD LIKE THAT. DULY NOTED. I WOULD LIKE GOOD FOR THE APPLICANT TO HEAR THAT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE A BIG SEVENTY SIX INCH G UP THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OK. I GUESS THERE'S NO OTHER STAFF QUESTIONS, WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP, I GUESS, [00:05:02] ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS THERE? WELL, YOU KNOW WHO I AM, SO I'M GOING TO SKIP THAT PART. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT PRESENTATION AS AS ALL OF YOU UNDERSTAND. WE PUT SIGNS ON THE BUILDINGS IN ORDER TO ENTICE TENANTS TO LEASE. WE WE DON'T USE ALL OF OUR ASSIGNED LOCATIONS. WE WE DID NOT USE ALL OF OUR ASSIGNED LOCATIONS ON PHASE ONE. WE USE SIGN LOCATIONS THAT WAS APPROPRIATE TO TO LEASE SPACE TO THE APPROPRIATE SIZE TENANTS. WE WE TEND TO LEASE THE LOWER SIGNS, USE THE LOWER SIGNS FASTER BECAUSE OUR QUASI RETAIL LOCATIONS. SO WE HAVE BANK AND A TITLE COMPANY, BUT WE USUALLY RESERVE THE LOWER THE UPPER LOCATIONS JUDICIOUSLY FOR THE BIGGER TENANTS. THAT IS REALLY ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. OK. YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK I MEAN IT SIGNS CAN ALWAYS BE A LITTLE SUBJECTIVE. I GUESS MAYBE THE GENERAL THOUGHT IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DID A GOOD JOB ON THE FIRST BUILDING. THERE'S ALWAYS JUST A SENSITIVITY HERE FOR THEM TO POTENTIALLY TURN INTO BIG BILLBOARDS. SO WE CAN KIND OF BE THE BAD GUYS ON THAT ONE WITH YOUR LEASING BROKERS THAT THAT WILL PROBABLY BE A STRUGGLE FOR US, RIGHT? WELL, I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB ON THE FIRST ONE. YEAH. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD OTHER THEN THE COMMENTS YOU MADE ABOUT WE WERE CONTACTED ABOUT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND WE HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED THAT WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY TO BUILD THAT LOCATION. I FORGOT TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD PREVIOUSLY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS IN PLACE. OK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF OR ANYONE? OK? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. AND WE DON'T NEED A PUBLIC HEARING SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENT WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA MSP 21-0006 SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 12TH 2021 AND NOTING THAT THE LOGO SIZE WILL NEED TO MEET THE APPROVED SIZE OF THE SIGN REQUIREMENTS FROM THIS ITEM NUMBER SIX. WE GOOD ON THAT STAFF? WE GOOD. YEAH, SAME AS THE LETTER SIZE. CORRECT? YES. YES, YES. WE HAVE MOTION DO WE A SECOND? SECOND. LET'S VOTE PLEASE. AND MOTION PASS IS SEVEN - ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH KEN REMINDED US EARLIER, WAS DECEMBER 7TH. SO IF YOU CAN MAKE IT, SO THANK YOU. [5. Consider: SV21-0023, Sign Variance for Marshall, Presley & Pipal, PLLC] NOW WE'LL HOP BACK TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. REAL QUICK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE SIGN VARIANCE FOR MARSHALL, PRESLEY AND PIPAL LAW FIRM. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE HEARD DURING WORK SESSIONS. DENNIS, THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW AN UPPER FLOOR SIGN JUST ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR CEILING BELOW THE UPPER FLOOR WINDOWS ON BOTH THE EAST AND WEST ELEVATIONS. THERE'S NO DEVIATIONS FROM THE STANDARD SIGN ORDINANCE REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO THE TYPE OF SIGN LETTER COLOR. THESE ARE NON ILLUMINATED SIGNS IN BOTH CASES, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO REFER BACK TO ANY EXHIBITS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, DENNIS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, WE MAY SPARE THE APPLICANT THE WALK DOWN THE GALLERY HERE AND MAYBE JUST ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA SV 21-0023, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 12, 2021. A MOTION DO WE HAVE A SECOND. LET'S VOTE PLEASE. AND PASSES SEVEN - ZERO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, SIR, FOR WAITING US OUT HERE A LITTLE OVER TWO HOURS AND GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT LEVEL. NOW THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. [7. Consider: SV21 -0025, Sign Variance for The Parkview Residences] THIS GENTLEMAN ALWAYS SEEMS TO SOMEHOW BE THE LAST ITEM ON SOME OF OUR AGENDAS SOMETIMES LUCKY HIM. SIGN VARIANCE FOR PARKVIEW RESIDENCES. AND AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE WE HEARD IN WORK SESSIONS. SO DENNIS, I THINK YOU'RE JUST KIND OF HITTING ON THE HIGH POINT HERE FOR US. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS TO ALLOW SOME BUILDING ACCENT LIGHTING IN PARTICULAR ON THE VARIOUS HOLIDAYS OF EACH YEAR AND SELECTING APPROPRIATE COLOR FOR EACH OF THOSE HOLIDAYS. THE ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION I THINK BROUGHT UP DURING THE WORK SESSION WAS WHETHER OR NOT THESE WOULD BE KEPT LIT AT ONE COLOR, A WHITE COLOR DURING DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS AND THEN APPROPRIATE SEASONAL COLORS FOR EACH OF THE HOLIDAYS THEY WISH TO DISPLAY THIS, AND I'LL REFER BACK TO ANY EXHIBITS YOU'D LIKE, AND OTHER THAN THAT, TURN IT OVER TO THE [00:10:04] APPLICANT. OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF HERE? OK, I GUESS WE'LL GO INVITE THE APPLICANT UP IF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T MIND JOINING US. AND I THINK ONCE YOU START WITH THAT, THAT ONE QUESTION REAL QUICK, IF YOU DON'T. NAME AN ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. AND WE'LL GET THE COMMENT THAT WAS JUST MADE BY STAFF. THE QUESTION WAS? WELL YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FIRST. MY NAME IS WALLY MAYA. I'M THE DEVELOPER OF PARKVIEW RESIDENCES. I LIVE AT 2002 WHITE WING COVE IN WESTLAKE, TEXAS. OKAY, THANK YOU. QUESTION IS WHAT WILL OTHER THAN THESE DATES, WHAT WILL THE LIGHTING LOOK LIKE? IT'S JUST WHITE. JUST WHITE. IT'S JUST IT GOES WITH THE REST OF THE IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT, WHERE YOU SEE THE WHITE UP LIGHTS, THAT WILL JUST BE WHITE ACCENT, OK? AND I GUESS STAFF WILL HAVE THAT COVERED WITHIN ANY KIND OF APPROVAL THAT WE MOVE ALONG BECAUSE I KNOW I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, RIGHT? OKAY. OK, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT? YEAH, WE'RE INTERESTED IN HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE SIMULATED BALL DROP. WELL, THAT WAS PROBABLY ME SPEAKING OUT OF TURN A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SPARKLE AND THEN THE SPARKLE GOES DOWN LIKE THIS? OKAY. NOW IS IT JUST THE BALCONY PART? IT WOULD JUST HAPPEN AT THE BALCONIES. YEAH. YEAH, IT WOULD START AT THE TOP WHERE IT GOES AROUND THE WHOLE BUILDING. IT WOULD SPARKLE THAT WOULD SPARKLE DOWN SPARKLE DOWN. OKAY. OKAY. COULDN'T SEE ANY OTHER WAY FOR IT TO HAPPEN OTHER THAN THAT, BUT WE THOUGHT MAYBE YOU HAD SOMETHING UP YOUR SLEEVE THERE. YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS AND THE COMMISSIONERS. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK THE RESIDENTS OF EACH OF THESE. WAS IT A WAS IT A COMMUNITY VOTE ON WANTING TO DO THIS AS WELL? WELL, IT'S IT WASN'T A COMMUNITY VOTE ON WANTING TO DO THIS. AS A DEVELOPER, SOUTHLAKE HAD HOLIDAY LIGHTING THAT THEY LIKE TO SEE IN THEIR BUILDINGS. AND SO I ADDED THIS THROUGH THE CONTRACTOR SAID THIS WOULD LOOK GOOD ON YOUR BUILDING. AND SO I SAID, OK, NOW WHAT I'M DOING IS GETTING PRESSURE FROM THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE OUR LIGHTS UP? SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. I GUESS. AND AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS COULD SHOOT ME DOWN HERE. BUT I GUESS, WOULD THERE BE ANY DESIRE ON THE THE HOLIDAY CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY LIGHTING TO TIME THE START OF THAT TO OUR HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS WEEKEND HERE? I CAN DO IT ANYWHERE YOU WANT. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST HOW IT'S PROGRAMED RIGHT NOW. I CAN PROGRAM IT ANY WAY THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE ME TO DO THAT. I MEAN, JUST AN IDEA. MAYBE IF IT WOULD. AND I GUESS THE THE TECHNICAL DATE WOULD BE, I GUESS, THE THE SATURDAY IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THANKSGIVING ON, I MEAN, JUST THE THOUGHT WE LIGHT UP THE REST OF TOWN SQUARE, SO THAT'D BE A PERFECT WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. OK, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. OK. AND THEN I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANT MAYBE THE LATITUDE, MAYBE LIKE FIVE OR SIX TIMES A YEAR TO LIGHT IT UP IN GREEN RELATIVE TO DRAGON FOOTBALL WINS OR SPORTS OR I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, JUST. IT'S ALL POSSIBLE. I MEAN, THAT'S IF THEY'RE IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE US DO THAT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE GLAD TO DO THAT. RIGHT NOW, I JUST HAVE GREEN ON FOR ST. PATRICK'S DAY ON THE 15TH THROUGH THE 19TH. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD HAVE SUGGESTED BURNT ORANGE, BUT THEY WOULDN'T GET LIT AT ALL. OH YEAH, YEAH. [LAUGHTER] I HAVE A BURNT ORANGE FOR HALLOWEEN. YEAH, DEFINITELY SAVE SOME UTILITIES THERE LATELY. UNFORTUNATELY. YOU CAN'T ARGUE THAT. I MEAN, MAYBE JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST SAY, MAYBE SOMETHING THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER, AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT INTO. I'D BE GLAD TO. DO SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. I MEAN, I LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. WE'RE TRYING TO ATTACH SOME REASONABLENESS TO THIS. SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT COLORS EVERY DAY. AND THERE'S SOME METHOD TO THE MADNESS, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SIX OR SEVEN TIMES A YEAR, YOU KNOW, GREEN, MAYBE GRADUATION WEEKEND. I MEAN, I'M MAKING IT UP, BUT YOU GUYS JUST THINK ABOUT THAT SOMETHING MIGHT BE COMMUNITY DRIVEN. THAT COULD BE INTERESTING. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, PEANUT GALLERY, ANYTHING ELSE? WE'RE ALL GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU COUNCIL. I GUESS OTHERWISE. WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA SV 21-0025, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 12TH 2021, AND NOTING THE APPLICANT'S [00:15:04] AGREEMENT THAT WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE NOT COLORED, THEY WILL BE WHITE LIGHTING. ALSO NOTING THE APPLICANT'S AGREEMENT TO CONSIDER MOVING THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTING TO START AT THE HOME FOR A HOLIDAYS BEGINNING TIME FRAME, WHICH IS GENERALLY THE SATURDAY PRECEDING THANKSGIVING, AND ALSO NOTING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO EVALUATE PROVIDING GREEN LIGHTS AT VARIOUS TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO COINCIDE WITH SCHOOL EVENTS, NAMELY DRAGON FOOTBALL. WE HAVE THE VICE CHAIRMAN'S MOTION, ANY AMENDMENTS TO THAT MOTION DOWN THERE. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE LOTS OF SECONDS THERE. VOTE IS SEVEN - ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, DECEMBER 7TH. AND WITH THAT AT 8:45 PM, WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.