Dec 07, 2021 City Council

ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT.

WELL, IT WAS A QUICK WORK SESSION.

[1. Call to order]

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL THE REGULAR SESSION TO ORDER.

[2.A. Executive Session]

AND AS USUAL, OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO AS MAYOR, I HEREBY ADVISE YOU THAT WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.071 TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SECTION 551.074 TO DELIBERATE REGARDING PERSONNEL MATTERS AND SECTION 551.087 TO DELIBERATE REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, AND WE WILL BE BACK AROUND SEVEN.

ALL RIGHT, IT IS 7:46, AND WE WILL CALL THE REGULAR SESSION OF THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING BACK TO ORDER, ARE THERE ANY ACTION REQUESTED AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, MAYOR, THERE IS ACTUALLY MAYOR AND COUNCIL I WOULD.

IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE TO AMEND THE CITY SECRETARY'S CONTRACT, TO EXTEND IT FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS, INCLUDING A ONE POINT TWENTY FIVE PERCENT MERIT INCREASE AND A TWO POINT FIVE PERCENT COST OF LIVING INCREASE WHEN THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY ONE 2022.

ALSO, MAYOR, IT IS MY PRIVILEGE THAT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE TO AMEND THE CITY MANAGER'S CONTRACT TO INCLUDE A TWO POINT FIVE PERCENT MERIT INCREASE AND A TWO POINT FIVE PERCENT COST OF LIVING INCREASE, AS WELL AS A TEN THOUSAND ONE TIME

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RETENTION PAYMENT.

EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY ONE 2022.

OK, GREAT.

CAN WE DO THOSE AS ONE MOTION OR DO WE NEED SEPARATE MOTIONS? ONE MOTION GOOD? OK, THERE'S MOTION.

CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH CITY MANAGER YELVERTON AND CITY SECRETARY AMY SHELLEY.

THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR [INAUDIBLE] AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

ANY OTHER ACTION REQUESTED AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE THAT WE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR PROJECT NUMBER 2017-03 AS DISCUSSED.

SO THERE'S MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND AND WE HAVE ONE RECUSAL.

OK, THAT PASSES WITH SIX YESES AND ONE ABSTENTION.

ANY OTHER ACTION REQUESTED? NO MAYOR.

[3. REPORTS]

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE A, WHICH IS THE MAYOR'S REPORT.

NOTHING FORMAL SCHEDULE.

BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS THE 80TH ANNIVERSARY OF PEARL HARBOR REALLY SPECIAL DAY AND OF REMEMBRANCE IN THE LIFE OF OUR COUNTRY.

WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A HOST OF AMAZING VETERANS IN SOUTHLAKE.

BUT YOU KNOW THAT CLASS OF VETERANS, THE WORLD WAR TWO VETERANS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES FROM THE PACIFIC THEATER THEY'RE A BREED IN AND OF THEMSELVES, THEY'RE IN A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN.

AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, HEARTBREAKING KIND OF FACT OF OUR AGE THAT THE NUMBER OF WORLD WAR TWO VETS ARE GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER.

SO IF YOU SEE ONE OUT AND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THANK THEM, ESPECIALLY, IT'S TRULY THE GREATEST GENERATION TO HEAR WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH AND TO SEE THE SACRIFICES THEY MADE FOR THIS COUNTRY.

IT'S REALLY SPECIAL AND IT'S OUR PRIVILEGE TO HONOR THEM AND REMEMBER THEM ON THIS PEARL HARBOR DAY.

SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS HELPED US CELEBRATE VETERANS DAY AND THEN TODAY AS WELL.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 3B, WHICH IS OUR CITY MANAGER'S REPORT AND SHANA.

DO YOU HAVE A REPORT FOR US? YES, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL GOT TWO QUICK REPORTS.

ONE IS PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ROB COHEN IS GOING TO QUICKLY BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON SOME KEY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, SO I'LL BE BRINGING A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM THIS EVENING.

THE SLIDE SHOWS YOU OUR OVERVIEW.

WE'LL HAVE ONE SLIDE THAT ACTUALLY JUST TALKS ABOUT A HOLISTIC REVIEW OF THE PROJECT IN DEPTH, AND THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY GO IN THE DEEP DIVE INTO PROJECT LEVEL DETAILS.

WE'LL COVER SEVERAL OF OUR ROADWAY PROJECTS IMPACTING NORTH WHITE CHAPEL.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TARRANT BOND PROGRAM, TARRANT COUNTY BOND PROGRAM, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT A FEW OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS WASTEWATER THREE FACILITY PROJECTS, AND THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS PROGRAM.

SO THIS SLIDE TALKS ABOUT OUR HOLISTIC PROGRAM, THE PIE CHART IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER SHOWS ACTUALLY THE ACTIVE PROJECTS BY NUMBER.

AND WHEN WE CALL A PROJECT ACTIVE, WE ACTUALLY DETERMINE IT AS TO ONE OF FIVE DIFFERENT PHASES WHETHER IT'S PRE-DESIGN, DESIGN, BID CONSTRUCTION OR CLOSE OUT.

SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF ABOUT 36 PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ACTIVE AND THE BAR CHART IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER IS IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AND IT ACTUALLY IS BROKEN DOWN BY THE TYPE OF PROJECT AND IT'S ACTUALLY COLOR CODED BY SPECIFIC PROJECT TYPE.

KEEPING IN MIND THAT IT'S PROJECT TYPES, NOT NECESSARILY FUNDING TYPES BECAUSE FACILITIES HAS THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNDING AVENUES FOR THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

SO WITH THAT WE'LL GO INTO A DEEPER DIVE INTO PROJECT LEVEL DETAILS.

THE FIRST PROJECT IS THE NORTH WHITE CHAPEL WIDENING FROM EMERALD TO HIGHLAND.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S ABOUT 70 PERCENT COMPLETE.

IT'S SOMEWHAT DECEIVING.

AS YOU RECALL, WE DID A LOT OF EXTENSIVE SUBSURFACE WORK FOR THE PAST YEAR.

SO RIGHT NOW, WE HAD TO DO THAT BEFORE WE STARTED DOING A LOT OF THE HORIZONTAL WORK.

SO THAT HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS UNDERTAKING.

ONE OF THE RECENT MILESTONES THAT WERE COMPLETED WAS THE EAST SIDE OF THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF THE SCREENING WALL.

THAT INVOLVES 16 DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS THAT ALL EXPIRED THIS PAST OCTOBER.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE.

WE DID WALK THROUGHS WITH THE CONTRACTOR STAFF AND EACH OF DIFFERENT RESIDENTS.

WE'RE WORKING ON CLEANING UP SOME ITEMS, BUT WE SHOULD BE OUT OF THEIR YARDS FAIRLY QUICKLY.

WE PLAN ON THE TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT RETURNING BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

THE CONTRACTOR IS MAKING PREPS TO START CONCRETE PAVING EITHER LATER THIS WEEK OR STARTING EARLY NEXT WEEK.

THEY DID SOME SUB GRADE STABILIZATION.

THEY DID SOME PROOF ROLLING TODAY.

THEY'LL DO SOME DENSITY TESTS TOMORROW, AND IF ALL LOOKS GOOD, THEN THEY'LL ACTUALLY START LAYING THE STEEL AND THEN PUTTING IN THE CONCRETE, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

WITH THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROCEEDING FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WILL BE CLOSING LOCAL STREETS, WHICH INCLUDES MISSION AND SAN SABA AT NORTH WHITE CHAPEL.

WE ANTICIPATE THOSE CLOSURES TO BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN SEVEN TO 10 DAYS MAX.

AND THAT SO THE CONTRACTOR COULD GET NOT ONLY THE ROADWAY IN, BUT ALSO GET

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SOME OF THE CROSSOVERS AND OTHER THINGS IN PLACE.

SO WHEN THEY DO OPEN UP THOSE LANES, THEY'LL BE SAFE TRAVEL FOR TURNING MOVEMENTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

THERE WILL ALSO BE A CLOSURE DURING WINTER BREAK, WHICH WOULD BE AT ASCOT DRIVE.

RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE THE CONTRACT WILL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE ALL THE WORK JUST AT ASCOT AND THEN REOPEN IT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS.

THAT MAY CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHETHER MATERIAL AVAILABILITY AND A HOST OF OTHER ISSUES AND CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD TO FACE.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S THE TENTATIVE PLAN, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRACKING FOR AN ESTIMATED CONTRACT COMPLETION DATE AS OF MAY OF NEXT YEAR.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS ANOTHER PROJECT IN NORTH WHITE CHAPEL, IT'S ACTUALLY THE CROSSING OF THE KIRKWOOD BRANCH, AS YOU RECALL, WE WERE PARTNERING WITH DENTON COUNTY, WHO'S RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE ALL INDICATIONS THAT THEY WILL FUND 80 PERCENT OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, WHICH IS ABOUT THREE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS.

THE PROJECT PRESENTLY IS AT 60 PERCENT DESIGN AND PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDES RAISING THE ELEVATION OF THE ROADWAY.

WE'LL ALSO WORK ON ADDING A SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, WHICH ACTUALLY WILL BE PART OF THE AMENDED PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS PLAN AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON, OR EXCUSE ME, THIS EVENING.

AND THEN THE ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION START DATE IS MID FISCAL YEAR 2023.

IT'S ALL DEPENDENT ON WHEN WE CAN GET THE FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY.

SO OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE EVERYTHING SHOVEL READY.

SO AS SOON AS FUNDS COME THROUGH, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO START RUNNING WITH THE PROJECT.

THAT'S OUR PLAN.

THE NEXT TWO PROJECTS ARE THE TARRANT COUNTY BOND PROJECTS.

THE FIRST ONE IS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT DAVIS WEST CONTINENTAL AND UNION CHURCH.

THE COST SHARE FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IS 50 PERCENT, SO THE COUNTY IS AGREEING TO PAY ROUGHLY ONE POINT SEVEN MILLION.

THE CITY WOULD BE ONE POINT SEVEN MILLION PLUS ABOUT 700000.

WE'VE PAID FOR ACQUIRING REAL ESTATE RIGHT OF WAY OR TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS.

THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 60 PERCENT COMPLETE.

WE'VE ACQUIRED ROUGHLY 11 OF 12 PARCELS.

WE'VE HAD SOME DIFFICULT NEGOTIATIONS WITH ONE PROPERTY OWNER WHERE WE'VE RESCINDED THE LAST OFFER AND WE'RE STRATEGIZING ON GOING FORWARD WITH A DIFFERENT WAY FORWARD EARLY NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE WAITING FOR FUNDING TO COME THROUGH BEFORE WE CAN AWARD THE ROUGH TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THOUGH AS LATE FY22 OR EARLY 23.

THIS IS THE SECOND TARRANT COUNTY BOND PROJECT, THIS IS THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT WEST CONTINENTAL AND SOUTH PEYTONVILLE.

THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COST SHARE IS GOING TO BE 50 PERCENT, SO IT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE COUNTY AND A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE CITY.

WE ACTUALLY REALIGNED THE ROUNDABOUT FOOTPRINT.

WE PUSH IT DOWN TO THE SOUTH AND WEST, MAINLY BECAUSE WE NOTIFIED THE ONE RESIDENT WE NEED RIGHT OF WAY IN A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FROM.

AND SHE HAD IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, SAID THAT SHE WILL NOT SELL.

SO RATHER THAN TO CONTINUE PUSHING TO AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO BECOME PROBABLY LESS THAN AMICABLE, WE LOOKED AT OTHER OPTIONS AND WE FELT LIKE MOVING THE ROUNDABOUT FOOTPRINT TO THE SOUTH DID NOT INCUR TOO MANY COSTS.

WE HAD THE PROPERTY AND IT'LL ACTUALLY WORK OUT BETTER FOR US WHERE WE DON'T NEED THE RIGHT OF WAY.

WE DON'T NEED ANY OTHER REAL PROPERTY AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT ONCE WE HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE.

KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE INTERSECTION AT DAVIS AND WEST CONTINENTAL HAS TO BE DONE FIRST BEFORE WE START THIS PROJECT.

THE ACQUISITION STRATEGY IS STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASES, SO WE'RE NOT SURE HOW THAT'S ALL GOING TO WORK OUT, BUT WE WILL HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE AS SOON AS THE MONEY COMES, WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL.

THIS IS THE ONLY WASTEWATER PROJECT THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURES, OUR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM IS FACING SOME SERIOUS DEGRADATION, MAINLY BECAUSE OF DRAINAGE AND OTHER ISSUES, ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS THAT ARE EXPOSING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY FINALIZING TO SOME DESIGN ALTERNATIVES WITH AN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.

WE LOOK AT POSSIBLY BRINGING THE AWARD TO YOU NEXT YEAR, EARLY NEXT YEAR, QUARTER, SECOND QUARTER.

WE'LL ALSO BE SURVEYING SOME OF THE OTHER MANHOLES.

AND THEN ONCE WE UNDERSTAND THE EXTENT AND THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS WORK, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THE SCHEDULE TO MOVE FORWARD.

THIS IS THE FIRST OF THE THREE SLIDES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT FACILITIES, THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE CENTER.

THE AWARD FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING TOWER DESIGN CONTRACT THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT THAT ACTUALLY WILL GET RPGA UNDER CONTRACT SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY WORK ON DESIGNING BOTH THE SERVICE CENTER AND THE TOWER SIMULTANEOUSLY.

THE CMAR SELECTION OF THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK SELECTION OR AWARD WILL BE DONE IN Q2 OR NEXT Q2 OF THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT BEING BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH TIME FRAME.

WITH THAT PLAN, WE LOOK AT FAST TRACKING THE DESIGN FOR CONSTRUCTION TO START IN LATE FISCAL YEAR 22 OR EARLY FISCAL YEAR 23 AND THEN PART OF THIS ENDEAVOR, AS YOU RECALL, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT FOR THE MUSTANG INDUSTRIAL SUBAREA.

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WE HAVE THAT DRAFT FROM OUR CONSULTANT.

WE'RE REVIEWING IT NOW.

AND SO THERE ARE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'LL CERTAINLY WORK ON DISCUSSING WITH COUNCIL AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND IS PROBABLY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE FOR THIS ENDEAVOR.

THE NEXT FACILITY PROJECT IS THE BOB JONES NATURE CENTER BARN.

THE DESIGN IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY AND MATERIAL PROCUREMENT IS ALSO OCCURRING.

THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE THE WAY THIS PROJECT IS BEING DONE.

THERE ARE SOME PRE-DESIGNED GOING ON, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER COMPONENTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE A FAST TRACK CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO.

THE BARN RAISING IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS SATURDAY.

I BELIEVE IT'S FROM 10 TO ONE.

WE ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION OCCURRING AUGUST OF SEPTEMBER OF 22 AND THEN BEING OPEN ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.

THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE BICENTENNIAL PARK PICKLEBALL COMPLEX.

THE AREA SHADED IN RED IS ACTUALLY THE PROPOSED SITE.

THE SOUTHLAKE TENNIS COMPLEX IS OFF TO THE RIGHT, AND UNITY WAY IS ACTUALLY THE THE ROADWAY TO THE TOP.

CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN, SITE PLAN CONSIDERATIONS WILL BE DONE AROUND APRIL OF THIS YEAR.

WE'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION AGAIN AROUND JULY AND THEN IT SHOULD BE OPEN BY ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.

AND THEN OUR LAST SLIDE IS THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS PROGRAM.

WE COMPLETED ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 800 LINEAL FEET OF SIDEWALK ALONG STATE HIGHWAY 114 IN THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION.

OUR NEXT PLAN IS TO COMPLETE THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION FROM THE WEST.

THE WEST CONTINENTAL SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL ROUNDABOUT TO THE SOUTH.

TO WHERE IT WILL JOIN THE COLLEYVILLE SIDEWALK THAT JOINS THE SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL PLEASANT RUN BRIDGE.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE DOING SOME TECHNICAL GEOTECHNICAL ASSESSMENTS WITHIN TOWN SQUARE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THESE SIDEWALKS ARE HEAVING SO BADLY.

WE'LL COME UP WITH A PLAN, OF COURSE, OF ACTION, AND THEN WE'LL START WORKING TO REPAIR AND REPLACE THOSE SIDEWALKS.

AND THEN THE ACTUAL FORMAL PATHWAYS PROGRAM WILL KICK OFF SHOULD THE MASTER MOBILITY PLAN AMENDMENT BE PASSED TONIGHT.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, DR.

COHAN.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ROBERT? I HAVE ONE.

ONE QUESTION FOR TWO SPOTS.

DIRECTOR COHAN ON THE WHITE CHAPEL, THE NORTHWEST CHAPEL BRIDGE AND ON THE ROUNDABOUT AT CONTINENTAL AND PEYTONVILLE.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, WEATHER AND SO FORTH.

BUT WHAT ARE THE ESTIMATED TIMES FOR COMPLETION OF THOSE PROJECTS? I KNOW IT'S A ROUGH.

SO FOR THE FOR THE NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BRIDGE WE'RE THE LONG LEAD TIME RIGHT NOW IS THE FUNDING.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE FUNDING HAS TO GO BECAUSE IT'S COMING FROM DENTON COUNTY.

IT GOES TO THE SURFACE TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL COMMITTEE, WHICH SHOULD GO THIS MONTH, RTC IN JANUARY.

IF IT'S APPROVED, IT GETS PICKED UP FOR FEDERAL AND STATE IN APRIL AND THEN ABOUT SIX MONTHS LATER IS WHEN WE CAN LOOK AT GETTING THE FUNDS.

AND THEN FROM THE ACTUAL COMPLETION PART OF THE PROJECT.

SO IF WE START THERE AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT NINE TO 12 MONTHS, WEATHER DEPENDENT COULD GO INTO 18 MONTHS FOR THE CROSSING.

THE ROUNDABOUT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SIX MONTHS.

IF WE GET THE SAME CONTRACTOR, WE THINK THAT WE CAN START THE INTERSECTION COMPONENT AT DAVIS AND WEST CONTINENTAL FIRST.

BUT BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME CONTRACTOR, THEY CAN DO SOME PREP WORK ON THE OTHER INTERSECTION WHILE THEY'RE FINISHING THE FIRST INTERSECTION.

SO THAT'S THE THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT LOOKING AT MA'AM IS TO SEE HOW WE CAN FAST TRACK BOTH OF THEM, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE ROUGH TIMEFRAME RIGHT NOW.

GREAT, THANKS DIRECTOR COHAN.

YES, SIR, YES, SIR.

ONE MORE ITEM FOR MY REPORT.

I'D LIKE TO ASK MADELINE OUJESKY TO STEP FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAVE RECEIVED AN AWARD.

OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS RECEIVED AN AWARD AND SHE'S GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, I AM HAPPY TO PRESENT THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS RECEIVED THE RICHARD R.

THE RICHARD R.

LILLIE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR PLANNING EXCELLENCE FROM THE TEXAS CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION.

WE HAVE OUR CERTIFICATE HERE AND I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE CERTIFICATE RECOGNIZES A COMMITMENT TO PROFESSIONAL PLANNING BY CITY ADMINISTRATION, ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS AND EXEMPLARY PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS DEMONSTRATED BY THE PLANNING STAFF.

ON THIS SLIDE, THE DEPARTMENT SCORED WELL OVER THE 100 POINT THRESHOLD TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD, AND THE EVALUATION CRITERIA IS ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU.

ONLY THIRTY FOUR CITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS HAVE RECEIVED THIS AWARD, AND THIS MARKS THE 17TH CONSECUTIVE YEAR THAT SOUTHLAKE HAS RECEIVED THE

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CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR PLANNING EXCELLENCE.

AND THAT IS A CONCLUSION TO THE PRESENTATION, SO BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND TO OUR CITY LEADERSHIP AND TO THE PLANNING STAFF AS WELL.

SO JUST VERY SHORT AND SWEET TONIGHT.

WELL, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO PUBLICLY SAY THAT I CANNOT IMAGINE ANOTHER PLANNING DEPARTMENT THAT DOES THE JOB THAT OURS DOES.

EVERYONE UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF SENIOR DIRECTOR KEN BAKER, JUST AS AN AMAZING JOB AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE IF WE COULD FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK.

[APPLAUSE] WELL, SAID, THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR ALL YOU DO.

THANK YOU, MADELINE.

THANK YOU, KEN.

FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE, THE YOU GUYS SEE DURING THESE DEVELOPMENT CASES, JUST THE VERY, VERY TIP OF THE ICEBERG OF WHAT GOES INTO BRINGING A CASE ALL THE WAY TO CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S TRULY AMAZING.

AND THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE WORKED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON BRINGING A CASE ALL THE WAY THROUGH KNOW THE PROFESSIONALISM, THE HARD WORK THAT THE STAFF EMBODY.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

WELL-EARNED AWARD.

THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

OK, ANYTHING ELSE SHANA?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

WELL, WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4A THROUGH 4G, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

SO WE'VE ALREADY REVIEWED THE LIST OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. SO IF THERE IS A MOTION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT.

YEAH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEMS NUMBER 4A THROUGH 4G OTHERWISE REFERRED TO HERE AS THE CONSENT AGENDA, NOTING 4E, WHICH IS SV21-0023, WHICH IS A SIGN VARIANCE FOR MARSHALL PRESLEY AND PIPEL PLLC.

LOCATED AT TWO SIX ONE FIVE EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SUITE TWO HUNDRED IS APPROVING THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW UPPER STORY SIGNAGE ON THE EAST AND WEST ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING, AS IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 30TH 2021.

ALSO 4F, WHICH IS A VARIANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE NUMBER FORTY THREE AS AMENDED.

SECTION 5.06 REQUIRING A MINIMUM FIVE FOOT WIDE RESIDENTIAL SIDEWALK ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGE FOR LOCATION AT 1226 WOODSEY COURT APPROVING THE VARIANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO NOT REQUIRE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG THE STREET.

FOUR G IS SV21-0025, WHICH IS ASSIGNED VARIANCE FOR THE PARKVIEW RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 350 CENTRAL AVENUE, APPROVING THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE EVENT LIGHTING ON THE BUILDING PER THE PROPOSED HOLIDAY AND EVENT SCHEDULE AND REGULATIONS, AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 30TH.

ALSO 8A, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-048, WHICH IS APPOINTING THE CHAIRS AND OR VICE CHAIRS TO THE POSITIONS ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE, THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMISSION AND THE SOUTHLAKE ARTS COUNCIL.

THE CURRENT CHAIRS AND VICE CHAIRS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE AND THIS TERM WILL LAST FOR ONE YEAR AND ALSO NINE A, WHICH IS THE AUTHORIZATION OF EXPENDITURES WITH DAVIDSON RECONSTRUCTION INC.

FOR VARIOUS PROJECTS IN THE CITY FACILITIES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.

THIS IS NOTING THAT FISCAL YEAR 2022 FACILITY PROJECT WITH DAVIDSON RECONSTRUCTION INC.

INCLUDES THE DPS HEADQUARTERS BAY DOORS PAINTING, THE MEDIA ROOM INSTALLATION AT TOWN HALL.

THE DPW HEADQUARTER GATES PREP AND PAINTING, THE OMC ROOM DOOR RELOCATION.

AND THE ACTIVITY CENTER DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE BUILD.

THAT IS ALL.

THERE'S A MOTION.

ALL RIGHT, THAT ITEM PASSES SEVEN ZERO, CONGRATULATIONS.

WITH THAT MOVE WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC FORUM, SO THE PUBLIC FORUM PROVIDES THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ABOUT ANYTHING YOU HAVE ON YOUR MIND THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP NOW.

OK, SEEING, NONE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND MOVE ON.

ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE TAKE UP SIX A, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO SIX I.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CROWD WHO'S HERE FROM COVENTRY OR ON 6I? OK, OK.

WELL, WE'RE GOING SIX I FIRST.

SO WE GOT A LONG LINE.

I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT YOU GUYS AT THE VERY BACK.

[6.I. Ordinance No. 1075-C, 2nd Reading, Amendments to the City of Southlake Mobility Master Plan, an element of the Southlake Comprehensive Plan. PUBLIC HEARING]

SO WITH THAT, WE WILL CALL ITEM 6I DIRECTOR BAKER AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HEAD OFF SOME CONCERNS AT THE PASS ABOUT TIMING.

SO WHAT WE'RE.

AND DIRECTOR BAKER WILL EXPLAIN IN MORE DETAIL WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING HERE IS A MOBILITY MASTER PLAN WITH DIFFERENT TIERS AND PRIORITIES OF PROJECTS.

SO I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHEN IT'S HAPPENING.

SO DIRECTOR BAKER, IF YOU WANT TO, I DON'T THINK WE NEED THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, BUT LET'S DIG IN ON.

I THINK IT'S THE INTERSECTION OF TURNBERRY AND SHADY OAK.

CORRECT? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THE AMENDMENT PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THE SECOND READING THE THE SOUTHLAKE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN, AND WE HAD A PRETTY EXTENSIVE PRESENTATION AT YOUR FIRST READING.

BUT THE INTENT OF THESE AMENDMENTS IS THAT THE COMP PLAN PROVIDES THE FRAMEWORK OR BLUEPRINT FOR THE PROVISION OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ULTIMATELY ROLL UP INTO YOUR

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CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN.

THE CIP TO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THAT STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT, WE FIRST PLAN AND PLACE PROJECTS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.

AT THAT TIME, THEY BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUNDING, AND THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO AMEND OUR PRIORITY LIST FOR SIDEWALKS.

WE ALSO ARE AMENDING OUR OFFICIAL SIDEWALK MAP, INCLUDE THE SIDEWALK ALONG NORTH WHITE CHAPEL AND THEN A REALIGNMENT OF THE TRAIL THROUGH THE XENIA RUCKER PROPERTY FROM XENIA RUCKER BOULEVARD.

I BELIEVE, MAYOR, YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON ON THE.

THE SHADY OAKS HIGHLAND INTERSECTION.

THERE ARE TWO ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED.

ONE IS THE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO 114.

THE OTHER IS THE SHADY OAKS HIGHLAND IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE MOBILITY PLAN CURRENTLY IN OUR INTERSECTION ANALYSIS THAT KIMLEY HORN DID.

IT WAS INDICATED THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE DURING THE PEAK TIMES, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS GENERALLY DURING SCHOOL PERIODS, ARE OPERATING AT A VERY LOW LEVEL.

AS SUCH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS REQUESTED TO MOVE THAT TO A POSSIBLE PROJECT TO BE LISTED IN THE MOBILITY PLAN.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO EVALUATE THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT OPTIONS AND IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS IF DETERMINED NECESSARY.

AND THEN THE METRIC ON THIS IS TO CONSTRUCT THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, IF DETERMINED NECESSARY.

THE AS YOU KNOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, OUR POLICY DOCUMENTS, THEY PROVIDE THE RATIONAL NEXUS FOR YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND BY A PROJECT BEING LISTED IN THERE THEN IT BECOMES ELIGIBLE FOR FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUNDING.

DOESN'T MEAN THE CONSTRUCTION NECESSARILY IS ABSOLUTELY GOING TO TAKE PLACE, BUT IT BECOMES ELIGIBLE AND PROVIDES THAT STRATEGIC LINK.

WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BRING PROJECTS TO YOU.

EACH NEW PROJECTS TO YOU EACH YEAR IN YOUR CIP.

AND THIS IS WAY TO BE MORE GLOBAL AND TO BE MORE MORE PLANNING ORIENTED IN PROGRAMING PROJECTS COMING FORWARD.

OK, EXCELLENT.

AND WHAT IS OUR LIKE, HOW FAR APPROXIMATELY ARE WE OUT ON TIER OR PRIORITY NUMBER TWO PROJECTS? PRIORITY TIER IS ABOUT A FOUR TO SEVEN YEAR PERIOD.

FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS FOR FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

YES, AND THAT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE.

WE'VE HAD PROJECTS GO MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.

AND DIRECTOR BAKER, THAT STILL REQUIRES COUNCIL APPROVAL ON THESE ON THESE PROJECTS.

IN THAT BUDGET APPROVAL AND YOU EVALUATE THOSE PROJECTS AS PART OF YOUR BUDGET APPROVAL EACH YEAR.

YEAH, I THINK THERE WAS CONCERN FROM SOME RESIDENTS THAT THIS WAS SINCE IT WAS IN HERE.

THIS WAS APPROVED.

IT WAS GOING TO GET APPROVED AND WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW, IT COULD HAPPEN QUICKLY.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE KEY IS THAT THE COUNCIL, WHOEVER'S ON COUNCIL IN FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS WILL HAVE TO APPROVE THIS, AND IT LIKELY WOULD NOT COME BEFORE THAT TIME FRAME.

A TIER TWO AT A MINIMUM IS FOUR YEARS OUT.

OK, GREAT.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COUNCIL AT THIS TIME ABOUT THIS OR ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS ON THIS IN THE MASTER PLAN? ON PROJECT 492 WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF LETTERS IN THERE TALKING ABOUT ALONG EAST HIGHLAND.

IT'S A TIER THREE RIGHT NOW FOR SIDEWALKS.

I WILL SAY THAT'S A SPOT I DRIVE EVERY DAY AND WITH IT BEING THE PROXIMITY OF THE SCHOOL, I SEE KIDS WALKING THERE EVERY DAY.

I DO THINK IT'S WORTH, YOU KNOW, EXPLORING MOVING THAT TO A TIER ONE AND TRYING TO PROVIDE SAFETY FOR THOSE KIDS WALKING.

ARE YOU SPEAKING OF THE? SIDEWALK PIECE.

THE EAST HIGHLAND NEAR KIMBALL OR THE ONE NEAR WHITE CHAPEL? NEAR KIMBALL YES.

YES, SIR, BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS.

[INAUDIBLE] DIRECTOR BAKER, WHERE I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT REAL QUICK, WHERE EARLIER WHERE DID THE I THINK THE SIDEWALK ON RIDGECREST WAS MOVED DOWN A TIER? AM I CORRECT ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S STILL IN THE PLAN.

THERE'S SOME THOUGHT THAT WITH THE COST [INAUDIBLE], THE NEW SUBDIVISION BEING CONSTRUCTED, THAT WE'LL GET A LARGE PORTION OF THAT SIDEWALK BUILT WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IT WILL ALLOW US TO CROSS BACK OVER TO THE WEST AND TO HOPEFULLY PROVIDE A CONNECTION TO NORTH PARK THROUGH THE OPENING.

SO THAT IS A THAT IS A STRATEGY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT YEAH, I REGULARLY AVOID PEOPLE WALKING EVERY DAY, PRETTY MUCH ALL HOURS OF THE DAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OK.

THANK YOU, DR. BAKER.

SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.

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SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NOW IF YOU'RE I KNOW EVERYBODY, I THINK IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS SPECIFIC THAT PROJECT.

SO IF YOUR QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED AND I READ YOUR NAME AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, YOU'RE WELCOME TO JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY I'M GOOD.

OR IF YOU STILL WANT TO COME DOWN AND ADDRESS COUNCIL, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN.

SO WE'LL START WITH JOSEPH KIRBY ELLIS AT 909 TURNBERRY, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT, ANY TIME WE ARE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING, THERE'S THERE ARE THREE LIGHTS THERE ON THE PODIUM AND IT'LL GO GREEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING.

WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE LIMIT HERE AT COUNCIL.

SO WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS YELLOW, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT AND WHEN IT STARTS BLINKING RED, YOUR TIME'S UP.

AND SO WE'LL WE'LL AT THAT POINT, MOVE YOU ON.

SO AGAIN, AS ALWAYS, PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR COMMENTS TO COUNCIL, NOT TO THE AUDIENCE, NOT TO THE DEVELOPERS, NOT TO ANYBODY ELSE, AND ABSOLUTELY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS HAVE TO SAY.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.

OK, JOSEPH KIRBY ELLIS AND I LIVE AT 909 TURNBERRY LANE.

OK, ALRIGHT SIR.

I'M NOT AGAINST SIDEWALKS, BUT SOME OF THE INFORMATION I THOUGHT YOU ALL WERE GOING TO GO THROUGH APPROVAL, TRYING TO PUT IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH AND VOTE ON IT TODAY AND STUFF.

SOME NEW INFORMATION.

BUT I WOULD LIKE JUST TO SAY A FEW THINGS.

WHEN WE MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER WE MOVED IN, WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD BOUGHT IN THROUGH A CUT THROUGH STREET THAT PARENTS USED TO GET THEIR CHILDREN TO AND FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL.

THERE WAS A NOTICEABLE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON MY STREET BETWEEN 7:30 AND 8:15 IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOONS 3:30 TO FOUR, BUT ONLY WHEN THE SCHOOL IS IN SESSION.

IF YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH TURNBERRY LANE, IT'S A LONG STRAIGHTAWAY UP AND DOWN A HILL WITH ABOUT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE CURVE ON THE TOP.

AND YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE TRAFFIC COMING THE OTHER WAY WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE CURVE.

I LIVE NEAR THE TOP OF THE HILL AND ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS I'VE ALMOST BEEN HIT WHEN BACKING OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY.

MY CAR IS EXITING THE CURVE, EXCEEDING THE SPEED LIMIT DURING THE MORNING PICK UP DROP OFF AN AFTERNOON PICK UP AT THE SCHOOL.

THAT SAID, I DON'T BEGRUDGE ANY FELLOW NEIGHBORS THAT WANT TO USE OUR STREETS TO GET TO THESE SCHOOLS.

I GET IT.

THESE ARE THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY WAYS TO ACCESS SHADY OAKS AND WHITE CHAPEL.

HOWEVER, I DON'T SUPPORT ANY SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATION TO THE TURNBERRY LANE SHADY OAKS INTERSECTION THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON SHADY OAKS IS DRIVEN BY THE CONSTRUCTION ON WHITE CHAPEL, AND FOLKS ARE JUST LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE TO 114 AND SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

LASTLY, THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON SHADY OAKS AND TURNBERRY SEEMS TO BE LIMITED TO JUST TWO TIMES A DAY, AND ONLY ONE SCHOOL IS IN SESSION.

I DROVE YESTERDAY BETWEEN THE MARQ AND TURNBERRY LANE ON SHADY OAKS, AT 3:15 AND AT 3:40, AND IT ONLY TOOK ME ABOUT TWO MINUTES AND 20 SECONDS TO COMPLETE THE TRIP EACH WAY, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IS AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF TIME CONSIDERING THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THAT WAS THROUGH A SCHOOL ZONE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OK, OUR NEXT PUBLIC COMMENTARY IS JENNIFER RATH AT 929 TURNBERRY, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

JENNIFER RATH, 929 TURNBERRY LANE.

I'M SPEAKING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, AS THE PREVIOUS NEIGHBOR SAID, THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT COMES THROUGH THERE, IF THE INTERSECTION IS TO BE REDESIGNED, REPAVED, WHATEVER IT IS, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD IT BE A ROUNDABOUT.

THAT PUTS UNSTOPPED TRAFFIC GOING DIRECTLY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE KIDS, RUNNERS, JOGGERS, YOU NAME IT.

I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN OUT WALKING, RUNNING ON OTHER ROUNDABOUTS WHERE CARS SPECIFICALLY DO NOT CURVE BUT DRIVE DIRECTLY STRAIGHT OVER THEM.

AND AS THE PEDESTRIAN, THEY DON'T GIVE A CRUD.

MY AS A CITIZEN, I FEEL LIKE THE PLANNING FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL IS A ROUNDABOUT TO AVOID PEOPLE FROM REALLY KNOWING HOW TO GO THROUGH A FOUR WAY STOP.

IT'S WORSE THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE WORSE.

THEY BLOCK PEOPLE IN THE CARS.

THEY BLOCK THE THOROUGHFARES SO YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH.

THEY SPEED THROUGH AS IF THEY HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY COMING IN RATHER THAN THE PEOPLE ALREADY IN.

I HAVE A BRAND NEW 16 YEAR OLD DRIVER.

EVERY DAY WHEN HE GOES TO AND FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL, HE JUDGES HIS SUCCESS IN DRIVING BY WHO BLOCKS HIM OR DOESN'T BLOCK HIM IN THAT WHITE CHAPEL ROUNDABOUT.

IT IS A BAD TRAFFIC PLAN.

DO NOT PUT ONE AT THE ENTRANCE OF A SUBDIVISION.

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NO OTHER AREA IN THIS CITY HAS A ROUNDABOUT AT THE ENTRANCE OF A SUBDIVISION.

KEEP IT A FOUR WAY STOP.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

OUR NEXT COMMENTARY IS ILIA [INAUDIBLE], WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

ILIA [INAUDIBLE], I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF SOUTHLAKE, I'M A RESIDENT OF COVENTRY MANOR AND ALSO ON THE HOA BOARD.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE A PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF YOU THAT I SUBMITTED TO THE CITY TODAY? I'M SORRY.

DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF YOU THAT I SUBMITTED? YES.

YES WE DO.

SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE FEEDBACK OF THE RESIDENTS ON THE FOUR PLANS THAT WERE PROPOSED BY THE CITY.

OK, PERFECT.

THE CITY ASKED US TO GATHER SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS.

WE SENT OUT A SURVEY.

WE GOT A SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT RESPONSE RATE, WHICH AS YOU GUYS KNOW FOR ANY SURVEY IS A PHENOMENAL RESPONSE RATE THAT TELLS YOU HOW, HOW SENSITIVE THIS TOPIC IS.

IF WE CAN FLIP TO THE THIRD PAGE WHERE YOU WOULD SEE QUESTION NUMBER ONE.

QUESTION NUMBER ONE IS HAVING REVIEWED THE PROPOSED OPTIONS FROM THE CITY TO CHANGE THE ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FOUR WAY STOP SIGN TO EITHER ADD AN ADDITIONAL RIGHT TURN LANE, WHICH IS OPTION ON OPTION TWO, ADD THE MINI ROUNDABOUT OPTION THREE.

OPTION FOUR WAS A REGULAR ROUNDABOUT OR OPTION FIVE NO CHANGE TO THE INTERSECTION.

SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS VOTED FOR NO CHANGE TO THE INTERSECTION OF THE FOLKS WHO WERE PROPOSING OR WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF A CHANGE TO THE INTERSECTION.

THE RESIDENTS SUPPORTING CHANGE THE RIGHT TURN LANE OUTNUMBER THE ROUNDABOUT FOUR TO ONE, AND YOU WILL PROBABLY HEAR RESIDENTS COMING STRONGLY IN OPPOSITION OF A ROUNDABOUT.

IF WE FLIP THE NEXT PAGE.

SECOND QUESTION WAS ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXTENSIVE DISRUPTION TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY? CONSIDERING THE DURATION OF SIMILAR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE CITY INVOLVING SIGNIFICANT MOVEMENT OF UTILITIES? THERE'RE UTILITIES ALLOCATED ALONG THAT INTERSECTION THAT WILL REQUIRE MOVEMENT.

NINETY FOUR PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF A CHANGE, SAID THAT YES, THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT EXTENSIVE DISRUPTION TO THEIR DAILY LIVES AND THE DURATION OF SUCH PROJECT.

QUESTION NUMBER THREE ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO EXIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DURING SCHOOL DROP OFF AND PICKUP TIMES, CONSIDERING RECENT EXPERIENCES REPORTED BY RESIDENTS AT THE WHITE CHAPEL HIGHLAND ROUNDABOUT? SEVENTY FOUR PERCENT OF THEM SAID YES, THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED.

QUESTION NUMBER FOUR, IS THIS PROJECT THE BEST USE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY? AND EIGHTY FOUR PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTS SAID NO.

WE HAVE BETTER, MORE PRESSING NEEDS IN THE CITY.

THE NEXT TWO PAGES PROVIDE VALUABLE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT WE HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO CONSIDER BEFORE THEY VOTE.

WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER AND VOTE FOR NO CHANGE TO THE INTERSECTION OF SHADY OAKS AND TAKE THIS PROJECT OFF OF THE MOBILITY PLAN.

AND JUST JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A SUPER IMPORTANT POINT AND YOU CAN SIT DOWN JUST FOR THE CROWD BENEFIT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

WE'RE WE'RE NOT APPROVING ANYTHING TONIGHT.

SUPER IMPORTANT IF AND WHEN.

I MEAN, THESE PROJECTS SOMETIMES END UP ON THE MASTER PLAN FOR FOR MUCH, MUCH LONGER THAN FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS.

SO IF AND WHEN A COUNCIL TOOK THAT UP, THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND ADDRESS THAT COUNCIL.

AND I THINK BY THE TIME WE WOULD, THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD HEAR IT.

NONE OF US WILL BE ON IT BECAUSE OF TERM LIMITS.

SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S ANOTHER BITE AT THIS APPLE BEFORE ANYTHING IS EVER, EVER APPROVED FOUR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S SUPER CLEAR.

IF THE MASTER PLAN IS APPROVED, ALL THAT MEANS IS THIS ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE PLAN.

NOTHING'S APPROVED FOR SHADY OAKS.

SO OK WITH THAT NEXT PUBLIC COMMENTER IS JOAN SHOCKLEY, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, I'M JOAN SHOCKLEY, 906 SOUTHLAKE COURT, I AM A 16 YEAR RESIDENT OF SOUTHLAKE, A 10 YEAR RESIDENT OF COVENTRY MANOR, AND I WAS SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT THERE IS A TIER TWO PLAN TO CHANGE THE INTERSECTION THERE IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED.

PEOPLE WILL SPEAK SOME OF THE REASONS THE ONE THAT GETS ME IS THAT ALREADY SO MANY CITY PROJECTS HAVE ADVERSELY AFFECTED COVENTRY MANOR.

FIRST, WE LOST OUR CROSSWALK.

WE LOST OUR KIDS SAFE PASSAGE TO SCHOOL.

TOOK IT AWAY WHEN SHADY OAKS WAS BUILT.

YOU MOVED IT.

SO NOW OUR KIDS HAVE TO CROSS A 60 FOOT OPENING OF PEOPLE TURNING RIGHT, TURNING LEFT.

THEY MIGHT AS WELL CROSS SHADY OAKS, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST THING.

THEN THAT ROUNDABOUT AT WHITE CHAPEL, WHICH EFFECTIVELY KEEPS US TRAPPED ON THE WEST SIDE OF HIGHLAND TWICE A DAY FOR 30 MINUTES BECAUSE IT'S GRIDLOCK.

THE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.

THEY CAN'T CLEAR THE INTERSECTION.

THEY'RE STUCK IN IT.

WE'RE TRAPPED NORTH TRAFFIC NORTH, SOUTH TRAFFIC STOPS.

EAST WEST CAN'T GO.

IT'S A MESS.

AND NOW YOU WANT TO PUT THAT SIMILAR KIND OF A THING AT OUR ENTRANCE.

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IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

WE DON'T WANT IT.

I THINK, LISTEN, I HAD KIDS AT DURHAM FOR SIX YEARS.

SIX STRAIGHT YEARS I HAD KIDS AT DURHAM.

SO THIS IS A RESULT OF WHAT HAPPENS AT DURHAM.

TWICE A DAY IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON.

I CAN TELL YOU, I USED TO WALK TO SCHOOL BEFORE A CROSSWALK WAS GONE.

BUT NOW THEN AFTER THAT, WHEN I DROVE, IT'S ABOUT FIVE MINUTES ON THE WORST DAY, FIVE MINUTES TO GET FROM YOUR PARKING SPOT IN DURHAM INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL TO THAT FORK TO THE FRONT OF THAT FOUR-WAY STOP WHERE TRAFFIC CLEARS.

SO IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE PLANNING DIRECTOR MENTIONED WAS IF THIS IS DEEMED TO BE NECESSARY, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THIS IS NOT NECESSARY.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS AND TO BE IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT ALL.

I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO PUSH IT OFF, OH, IT'S A TIER TWO.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

IT SHOULDN'T BE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT ALL.

IT'S NOT NECESSARY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ME.

I WOULD CORDIALLY INVITE ALL OF YOU TO COME JOIN ME ANY AFTERNOON AT 3:30 TO SIT THERE AND WATCH, AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS NO NEED FOR THIS.

I'LL BRING SNACKS, I'LL BRING CHAIRS.

WE CAN SIT THERE.

YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED COMPLETELY FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT JUST IT JUST ISN'T NECESSARY.

THERE'S NO REASON THE WHOLE THING TAKES ABOUT 20 MINUTES THAT IT'S BEFORE THE TRAFFIC DISSIPATES AND IT'S MAX FIVE MINUTES TO GET EITHER FROM THE, YOU KNOW, PULLING IT OFF 1709 TO THE STOP SIGN OR FROM THE PARKING LOT.

IT JUST ISN'T NECESSARY, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD VOTE TO REMOVE IT, NOT JUST BUMP IT FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS, BECAUSE IN FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS, THE SAME THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S HAPPENING NOW.

SAME THING THAT HAPPENED FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS AGO.

IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

IT WASN'T NECESSARY.

THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO BE NECESSARY IN FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS.

IT'S NOT NECESSARY NOW.

SO LET'S GET IT OFF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND GO DRAGONS.

NEXT SPEAKER IS SARAH BERTIE, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

HI, MY NAME IS SARAH BERTIE I'M AT 1402 EXETER COURT.

I ALSO HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF SOUTHLAKE FOR OVER 10 YEARS, AND THE POINT THAT YOU MADE EARLIER THAT, OH, DON'T WORRY, IT'S IN TIER TWO, IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS AWAY.

THAT IS THE WORRY.

THAT IS WHY SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE IS BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT IT IN THE PLAN.

SO THAT IS THE ISSUE IS TO HAVE IT AS A TIER TWO, TIER THREE, TIER ONE IS THE ISSUE.

I'M OPPOSED TO IT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

ONE, IT IS THE IT WOULD BE THE ONLY ROUNDABOUT IN SOUTHLAKE THAT BECOMES THE ENTRANCE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH COVENTRY, IT IS A IT'S A MATURE NEIGHBORHOOD FILLED WITH, YOU KNOW, A VERY SORT OF QUIET ENTRANCE, A PRIVATE ENTRANCE, NOT OBVIOUSLY GATED OR ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE CHARM OF GETTING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT WOULD ALL GO AWAY AND WE'D BE LEFT WITH A ROUNDABOUT AS THE ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ONLY ONE IN SOUTHLAKE IN TERMS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN ADDITION, AS JOAN HAD MENTIONED, THERE IS LESS THERE'S MUCH LESS TRAFFIC THAN AT A WHITE CHAPEL OR CONTINENTAL ROUNDABOUTS AS WELL.

SHADY OAKS TRAFFIC IS NOT, AS I SAID, IS NOT THAT BAD.

IT'S ON THE WEEKENDS AND ANY OTHER TIME THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE AND HAVING A ROUNDABOUT AT OUR ENTRANCE, WE FEEL, WOULD HAVE A DETRIMENTAL IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE FEEL OF IT, THE, YOU KNOW, HOME VALUES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT REMOVES THE PRIVATE FIELD TO OUR ENTRANCE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

IT WOULD ALSO BE VERY AWKWARD.

THE THE INTERSECTION IS NOT LARGE, IT IS A SMALL INTERSECTION.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE PLAN SHOW THAT THE ROUNDABOUT IS PUSHED INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS OPPOSED TO ANY OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES OR AREAS AROUND IT.

AND THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS SORRY, MY.

AS I SAID, MY CONCERN IS THE TIMING.

NOT SO MUCH, NOT THE TIMING, BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S ON THE LIST.

AND FOR MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

IT'S TOO SMALL OF AN AREA, AND THE LOCATION WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT, YOU KNOW, THE COVENTRY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LOOK, THE FEEL OF MATURE TREES, EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND IT WOULD BE, AS I SAID, THE ONLY IT'S SORT OF OUT OF PLACE.

AND SO I WOULD ASK RESPECTFULLY THAT IT BE TAKEN OUT OF THE PLAN IN ITS CURRENT FORM AS A ROUNDABOUT.

THANKS.

THE NEXT SPEAKER TONIGHT IS SCOTT DAVIDSON, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

SCOTT DAVIDSON 903 TURNBERRY.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I'M GREATLY OPPOSED TO THIS MEASURE.

I THINK THAT THERE ARE COUNTLESS WAYS OUR TAX DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT IN BETTER WAYS THAN THIS.

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IF YOU WIDEN THIS INTERSECTION, YOU CHANGE THIS INTERSECTION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

YOU HAVE TO MOVE ALL UTILITY LINES, ALL SEWER LINES.

WE SAW WHAT THAT DID TO WHITE CHAPEL OVER THE LAST YEAR.

IN DOING SO, YOU CAN ELIMINATE OUR COMMON AREA, OUR PARK LAND AND AS OTHER PEOPLE WERE ALLUDING TO.

THAT'S PART OF THE CHARM OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WILL HAVE IRREVERSIBLE ADVERSE EFFECTS TO OUR PROPERTY VALUES.

IN ADDITION, I'VE BEEN RESIDENT THERE AT 903 FOR 15 YEARS.

I HAD FOUR KIDS GO THROUGH DURHAM ELEMENTARY/INTERMEDIATE AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF TIMES BEEN THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION JUST WITH THEM DURING SCHOOL HOURS.

IN THE MORNING.

IT REALLY ISN'T THAT BUSY BECAUSE THERE'S A LARGE, YOU KNOW, TIME PERIOD THAT PEOPLE ARE DROPPING KIDS OFF.

SO WE'RE ONLY REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE AFTERNOON WHEN SCHOOL LETS OUT.

IT'S VERY RARE THAT TOOK ANY MORE THAN FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES TO GET HOME THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION FROM THAT PARKING LOT, PICKING UP THE KIDS.

AND USUALLY THAT'S BECAUSE YOU GOT CAUGHT BEHIND THE BUSSES.

THE BUSSES ARE WHAT TIES THE TRAFFIC UP, NOT THE RESIDENTS.

NINETY FIVE PERCENT OF THE DAY THAT INTERSECTION STAYS EMPTY, THERE'S NO CARS AT ALL.

EARLIER IN THE WEEK, I HAD TO DRIVE THROUGH BACK AND FORTH TO HOME SEVERAL TIMES.

SIX TIMES I WENT THROUGH THE INTERSECTION WITHOUT ANOTHER CAR THERE.

IT'S RARE THAT YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE CAR DEEP, IT IS 20 MINUTES OF SCHOOL DAYS ONLY, AND THAT'S IT.

AND SO THERE'S SO MANY THINGS IN SOUTHLAKE THAT NEED MUCH MORE ATTENTION THAN THIS, THIS IS REALLY.

IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T THINK THE BEST USE OF THE CITY'S TIME AND MONETARY FUNDS, THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE.

AND THE ONLY THING I DO IS IRREVERSIBLY HARM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR ANIMALS AND THE OTHER RESIDENTS WHO WALK IN OUR STREETS PUTS THEM AT RISK.

AND IT'S JUST IT'S UNNECESSARY.

AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER, THIS IS THE LAST SPEAKER COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS MAURY PAYTON, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

I'M MAURY PEYTON.

1011, TURNBERRY AND COVENTRY MANOR.

OBVIOUSLY, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS, THIS PROPOSAL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PROPOSAL EVER GOT TO BE A PROPOSAL.

I HAD ONE OF THE MEMBERS TALKING ABOUT SAFETY, KIDS WALKING ON SIDEWALKS, AND WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING A NO STOP ENTRANCE INTO OUR SUBDIVISION.

I I RECOMMEND THAT WHOEVER MADE THIS PROPOSAL COME AND STAND WITH THEIR KIDS AT THE ROUNDABOUT AT WHITE CHAPEL [INAUDIBLE] AND HIGHLAND AND TRY TO CROSS WITH THEIR KIDS AND THEN TELL ME THEY WANT TO PUT A ROUNDABOUT IN THE BEGINNING OF OUR SUBDIVISION.

I MEAN, IT'S ABSURD.

NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S EXCUSE ME, I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT SOMEBODY PROPOSED THIS THIS.

THIS INTERSECTION IS ONE TENTH OF A MILE FROM THE SCHOOL ZONE.

SOUTHLAKE IS TRYING TO SET NEW PRECEDENTS IN THE NATION.

NOT ONLY ARE WE NOT.

WE'RE TRYING TO SPEED UP TRAFFIC ONE TENTH OF A MILE FROM A SCHOOL ZONE.

I MEAN, DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ANYBODY, ANYWHERE? I DON'T THINK IT DOES SO.

I MEAN, IT'S YOU KNOW, TO US FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD IS IS IS A SILLY THING TO SAY.

IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A PROPOSAL.

IT SHOULDN'T BE.

WE SHOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT IT STRICKEN NOT TO BE A PROPOSAL, NOT TO BE ON ANYBODY'S AGENDA, EVER.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? COME ON DOWN.

PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, OR YOU CAN GIVE US THAT CARD.

YEAH, SURE.

NO PROBLEM.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS GEOFFREY HERBERT.

I'M A COVENTRY MANOR RESIDENT.

I LIVE AT 1401 LANDS END COURT.

I HAD A SET OF PREPARED REMARKS, BUT THE PEOPLE BEFORE ME HAVE PROBABLY SPOKEN MUCH MORE ELOQUENTLY AND MUCH MORE PASSIONATELY ABOUT THIS.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO REAFFIRM MY AGAINST BEING ANTI THIS PROPOSAL.

ALTHOUGH I DID LIKE THE HIGHLAND SIDEWALK THING THAT WAS.

I THINK THAT ACTUALLY IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT.

AND JUST FOCUSING ON A COUPLE OF THINGS DURATION OF THE PROJECT, THE IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE TALK ABOUT, OH, IT'S ONLY FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS FROM

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NOW.

WELL, PEOPLE BUYING HOMES A COUPLE OF YEARS FROM NOW, WILL KNOW OR COULD KNOW THAT THIS IS ON THE PLAN AND IT WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT, AT LEAST WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY DESIRE TO BUY A HOUSE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO BY EVEN HAVING THIS ON THE LIST, IT HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR HOME VALUES AND I AM.

SO I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL AND THE SAFETY OF THE THE KIDS, THE PEOPLE ZIPPING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A SHORTCUT BETWEEN PEYTONVILLE AND WHITE CHAPEL.

I JUST THINK THIS I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS.

WE JUST NEED TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE FROM THE PROJECT LIST.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM SIX I? COME ON DOWN.

JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.

HELLO, CLAY HUNT, 909 SUFFOLK COURT, THAT'S IN COVENTRY MANOR, AS YOU CAN HEAR, MANY RESIDENTS ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.

I'M ACTUALLY ON THE HOA BOARD AND WE'VE BEEN ANALYZING INVESTIGATING THIS, DOING SURVEYS ON THIS NOW FOR ABOUT A MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF SINCE WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT IT AND EVERYONE'S PASSIONATE, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE THE RESIDENT'S PASSION INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THIS.

OBVIOUSLY, EVERYONE HERE HAS A VERY DIFFICULT JOB FOR ALL STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO IT WAS ALSO APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE A COUPLE OF POTENTIAL OPTIONS THAT WERE ALTERNATIVES TO THE PROPOSALS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED TODAY, POTENTIALLY ELIMINATING THE STOP SIGNS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE AND REPLACING WOULD JUST VERTICAL FLASHING RED LIGHTS THAT COULD BE CHANGED.

WELL, DID FLASH FOR 23 HOURS OF THE DAY AND AS EVERYONE'S SPOKEN TO FOR THE 40 MINUTES THAT THERE IS SOME CONGESTION BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC, THEY COULD TURN TO THE STANDARD RED, YELLOW AND GREEN LIGHT, ALLEVIATING THE CONGESTION AND MAKING IT MORE EFFICIENT PASSAGE OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE DISCUSSED.

ANOTHER OPTION WAS TO POTENTIALLY PROVIDE A TRAFFIC DETAIL.

AGAIN, IT IS ONLY 20 TO 40 MINUTES A DAY, BUT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY CUT DOWN ON THE TRAFFIC AS WELL.

AND FROM A COST STANDPOINT, AT A MINIMUM, THIS PROJECT AT ITS AT ITS AT ITS MINIMUM PROPOSED WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND THEN THE ROUNDABOUT, AS EVERYONE HAS SPOKEN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY IN THE MILLIONS.

YOU COULD PROVIDE FOR TRAFFIC DETAIL FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

WITH THAT, SO JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS AS OPPOSED TO JUST PROBLEMS WITH THE PROPOSED.

THANKS.

ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON SIX I? OK, WITH THAT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, DIRECTOR COHAN, CAN YOU COME ON UP AND TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT? DO YOU THINK IT'S A DIRECTOR COHAN [INAUDIBLE] DIRECTOR BAKER COME ON UP.

APPRECIATE IT.

SORRY, ROB, YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK, ROB.

GOODBYE.

I'LL JUST.

HOW ABOUT I STAND HERE.

TALK TO HER.

I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU.

BUT SHE SAID, NO, OK.

STAND THERE PROVIDE SUPPORT.

CAN YOU CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE IN THE ACTUAL PLAN? WHERE'S IT AT? WHERE ARE WE AT? IT'S ON THE SLIDE.

I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT IT FOR A MOMENT.

SO IS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, AND I DON'T WANT TO LOOK FOOLISH HERE.

BUT WHERE WAS ROUNDABOUT? WHERE DOES THIS COME UP FROM? I NEED DIRECTOR COHAN [INAUDIBLE].

DIRECTOR COHAN COME ON UP.

WELL, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LISTED, THIS IS LIKE MUSICAL CHAIRS.

WHAT'S THE POLITICAL WAY TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO? GO AHEAD, SIR.

SO IN 2017, THE CONSULTANT, WE DID AN INTERSECTION CAPACITY ANALYSIS AND THEY MADE ONE RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE.

MM-HMM.

AND SO PART OF OUR ALGORITHM IS TO LOOK AT LEVEL OF SERVICE.

AND SO WE ASKED THEM, WE SAID, WELL, WHAT DOES THIS ONE TURN LANE DO FOR LEVEL OF SERVICE? AND THEY SAID IT'S A YOU GO FROM AN F TO MAYBE A C.

AND WE SAID, WELL, WHAT OPTIONS ARE TO GET US FROM AN F TO AN A? AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOUR ROUNDABOUT IS PROBABLY YOUR BEST OPTION.

SO WE LOOKED AT IT.

OBVIOUSLY, THE FULL FULL SIZE ROUNDABOUT WOULD NOT WORK IN THAT AREA.

SO WE SAID, WHAT ABOUT A MINI ROUNDABOUT? AND SO THAT'S HOW THAT DISCUSSION KIND OF MORPHED FROM A FROM A RIGHT TURN LANE TO A ROUNDABOUT, SIR.

AND THERE WAS NOTHING OTHER OTHER THAN THAT THAT TALKED ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT.

IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS THAT MENTIONS ROUNDABOUT, THOUGH? [INAUDIBLE] I'M SORRY, SIR.

THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE THAT TALKS ROUNDABOUT, THOUGH, RIGHT? OH, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

NO, SIR.

WHAT WE LOOK AT IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

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OK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD IT.

SO IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THIS, THOUGH, THEN IT TAKES IT TAKES ANY IMPROVEMENT OFF THE TABLE, RIGHT? IT WOULD COMPLETELY COME OFF THE LIST AND ANY SORT OF IMPROVEMENT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT WASN'T A ROUNDABOUT, WHETHER IT'S A BLINKING LIGHT OR WHATEVER THAT'S OFF.

SO IT'S KIND OF IT STAYS AS IT IS.

COULD YOU SAY THAT INTO THE THE MIC ONE MORE TIME? IF IT'S NOT INCLUDED ON MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT WE CANNOT USE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED ANYWHERE IN THE AREA ON ANY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT? THAT'S WHY THE PLAN DOES NOT CALL FOR A ROUNDABOUT.

IT SAYS ANY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, WHATEVER THE ENGINEERS DECIDE IS APPROPRIATE.

THIS OPENS THE DOOR TO GIVE US THE OPTION OF USING DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE AVAILABLE.

IN TERMS OF THE WAY THIS CITY USES MASTER PLANNING.

THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS WHETHER WE SHOULD INCLUDE A PROVISION IN THE MASTERPLAN TO EVALUATE THE INTERSECTION FOR POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS.

NO SOLUTION IS PROPOSED, NO CONSTRUCTION IS PROPOSED, NO BUDGET IS PROPOSED.

THIS IS A MASTERPLAN RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL CAUSE US TO PUT IN OUR WORK PLAN, THE TECHNICAL EVALUATION OF THE INTERSECTION FOR POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.

SO CAN YOU ALSO INCLUDE OR PROVIDE CLARITY THAT IF WE WERE TO ENGAGE IN ANY TYPE OF STUDY THAT THIS WOULD APPROPRIATE FUNDS TO ENGAGE IN THAT PARTICULAR STUDY AND ANY ENGINEER AND BE AFFILIATED WITH THAT.

SO THAT GIVES US A RUNWAY OF THE NEXT FOUR YEARS TO BE ABLE TO APPROPRIATE THE NECESSARY FUNDS FOR THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.

SO UNDER RECOMMENDATIONS, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S COMPOUND EVALUATE THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATION IMPROVEMENTS IF DETERMINED NECESSARY.

THAT'S THE METRIC.

THAT'S HOW WE MEASURE THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR MASTERPLAN RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO EVALUATE AN INTERSECTION AND TO PLAN FOR IT.

BUT ULTIMATELY, THE PERFORMANCE MEASURE IS WHETHER YOU BUILD THE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED ULTIMATELY.

IS THERE A WAY TO DELETE THAT SECOND PART JUST FOR NOW? JUST TO SO THE PART OF THE MASTERPLAN THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON IS EVALUATING THE INTERSECTION IN THE FUTURE VERSUS IMPLEMENTING THE IMPROVEMENTS.

RIGHT? I'LL LET KEN SPEAK TO THAT.

I MEAN, YOU CAN MODIFY THE LANGUAGE AS NECESSARY.

YOU CAN SAY COMPLETE THE STUDY.

WELL, IT'S JUST HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE SURE ON OUR END, WE EVALUATE OUR PERFORMANCE ABOUT WHETHER WE SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND WHAT WE TRY TO ESTABLISH IS WHAT DOES THAT SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THAT IDEA, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE EVALUATING ANYTHING THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE SCENARIO OR ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY REPAIR OR IMPROVE THE SCENARIO.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT.

BUT YEAH, I DON'T EVEN THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER EVALUATING IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUTURE NEED FOR IMPROVEMENT.

SO WE JUST DON'T.

YEAH, AND I SEE YOUR POINT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.

THE REALITY IS, IN FOUR YEARS, IT MAY LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME.

IN FOUR YEARS, IT COULD BE MARKEDLY WORSE.

IN FOUR YEARS WE MIGHT NOT NEED TO DO ANY TYPE OF ANALYSIS.

WELL, RIGHT.

SO LET ME ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND THAT WOULD BE HOW? FIRST SHAUNA OR KEN.

WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF INTERSECTIONS IN OUR CITY.

SO HOW DOES ONE END UP ON THIS LIST? SO WE ENGAGE KIMERLY HORNE SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO GO AROUND AND EVALUATE EVERY INTERSECTION, EVERY MAJOR INTERSECTION IN TOWN TO DETERMINE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

AND ROB CAN SPEAK TO THE TECHNICALITIES OF THAT MORE SPECIFICALLY THAN I CAN.

BUT THE IDEA WAS REMEMBER, THIS IS A MASTER PLAN, SO YOU DON'T WANT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU HAVEN'T DETERMINED WHAT IS NEEDED AND THEN HAVE A PROBLEM.

MASTER PLANNING IS ABOUT PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.

AND SO THAT INTERSECTION STUDY WAS DONE TO HELP US ANTICIPATE WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE AS IT RELATES TO OUR MAJOR INTERSECTIONS, WHICH THEN GIVES US THE FORCE RANKING TO DECIDE WHAT OUR PRIORITY ITEMS ARE.

YES, AND THAT WAS A HIGH LEVEL REVIEW.

WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT AS YOU GET YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY INFORMATION, THEN YOU CAN DETERMINE WHERE YOUR PROBLEM AREAS ARE AND DO DEEP DIVES AND DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST SOLUTION IS.

SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SOLUTIONS THAT MIGHT COME INTO PLAY SHOULD WE DO A DEEP DIVE ON THIS INTERSECTION AND DETERMINE THAT IT'S NECESSARY? IT SOUNDS TO ME AS IF THERE ARE CERTAINLY CHALLENGES AT THIS INTERSECTION.

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SO THE IDEA OF APPROPRIATING FUNDS DOWN THE ROAD TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO MANAGE THE EXISTING CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING, WHETHER IT'S ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ISSUES OR IF IT'S PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED AND MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED INSIDE OF FOUR YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE TIER TWO IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE.

MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO EVALUATE THE CHALLENGES THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS DEALING WITH TODAY.

MAYBE IT'S MORE OF A TIER ONE IN TERMS OF AT LEAST A STUDY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CHALLENGES REALLY ARE.

I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE NOT TO CREATE A, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS TIER.

BUT REALITY IS IS I HEARD A LOT OF RESIDENTS SUGGEST THAT THERE ARE CHALLENGES AT THIS INTERSECTION.

AND I THINK IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY IF WE DO HAVE THOSE SITUATIONS TO DO EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A MOBILITY MASTER PLAN TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE APPROPRIATE FUNDS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE AND FIGURE OUT WHERE OUR ISSUES ARE.

AND IF WE HAVE ISSUES WITH MOVING PEOPLE ACROSS A BUSY INTERSECTION.

THE WAY I WOULD CHARACTERIZE IT FOR YOU AS PRIORITY TIER ONE IS REALLY ABOUT URGENCY, RIGHT WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL, IF YOU WILL.

YEAH, PRIORITY TIER TWO IS MORE ABOUT IMPORTANT.

SO OUR CONSULTANT HAS SAID THAT THIS FUNCTIONS AT A SERVICE LEVEL F THAT GETS OUR ATTENTION; RIGHT? YEAH, BUT WE'VE ASSIGNED IT PRIORITY TO TWO BECAUSE WE CONSIDER IT IMPORTANT, BUT PERHAPS NOT AS URGENT AS SOME OF THE OTHER INTERSECTIONS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT.

SO I JUST WANT TO STATE, FOR THE RECORD, THAT WAS MY HYPOTHETICAL ANALYSIS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE JUMPING INTO IT.

SO I'M JUST SUGGESTING, THOUGH, THAT THERE CLEARLY IS A REASON FOR US TO ANALYZE THIS INTERSECTION.

SO A TIER ONE, THOUGH, CAN THAT'S A IMMEDIATE TWO YEARS TYPICALLY OR FOUR ? YEAH, THAT IS A ONE TO THREE YEAR.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON'S SUGGESTION, YOU COULD PULL THIS OUT OF THE AMENDMENT THIS EVENING, WE COULD LOOK AT A MORE COMPREHENSIVE RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD LOOK MORE GENERAL.

THE AREA WE HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT COMING UP ONCE WE GET SOME FINDINGS BACK FROM THE MUSTANG DRIVE 26TH AREA, AND SO WE'LL WE'RE SCHEDULING THE POTENTIAL MOBILITY AMENDMENT PLAN LATER IN THE SPRING OR EARLY SUMMER.

WE COULD ALWAYS COME BACK WITH MAYBE MORE GLOBAL RECOMMENDATION THAT MAY LOOK AT MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT WERE ADDRESSED THIS EVENING.

YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT'S FOR ME.

IT'S A DIFFICULT ONE BECAUSE I KNOW THE CHALLENGE IS THERE, BUT IT'S THAT BALANCE OF DOING WHAT WE BELIEVE IS RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, BUT ALSO FOR THE NEIGHBORS THAT ACUTELY DEAL WITH IT ON A DAILY BASIS.

I MEAN, I DRIVE THAT OFTEN, AND WHAT WAS SAID TONIGHT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

IT IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE COME THROUGH THERE WHERE YOU'RE COMING DOWN SHADY AT THE TIME THE SCHOOL GETS OUT AND IT IS FIVE MINUTES.

IT'S FIVE MINUTES FROM THE INTERSECTION IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL WHERE THEY'RE COMING OUT.

SO YOU GET THROUGH THERE, IT'S JUST YOU GO A LITTLE BIT STOP, GO A LITTLE BIT, STOP.

IT'S A VERY SMOOTH PATTERN AND SAY IT TAKES FIVE MINUTES AND THAT'S THE OTHER.

SOMEBODY SAID THE REST OF THE TIME, THERE IS NO TRAFFIC AND THAT IS CORRECT BECAUSE I GO, THAT'S THE PATH I TAKE TO THE CHAMPIONS CLUB.

AND IT'S RARE THAT YOU COME ACROSS THE CAR WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, THE DATA IS IMPORTANT, BUT I ALSO MEASURED UP TO THE DOZENS AND DOZENS AND DOZENS OF PROJECTS THAT WE CAN DO IN THE CITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, I'LL THROW IT OUT THERE IF WE DON'T WANT IT ON THERE, IT'S NO HEARTBURN TO ME.

YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO TAKE THAT OFF BECAUSE IT IS A PROBLEM 15 MINUTES A DAY IN THE MORNING AND 15 IN THE EVENING, AND IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHITE CHAPEL, RIGHT OVER ON THE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHITE CHAPEL AND HIGHLAND.

IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT WAS YOU HAD STEADY TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE AROUND THE CLOCK AT WHITE CHAPEL AND HIGHLAND.

THAT'S A MAIN EAST WEST OR NORTH SOUTH THOROUGHFARE.

THIS ISN'T A MAIN ONE, IT'S A QUICK RUN FROM DOVE UP TO 1709.

I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN.

I THINK IT DEFINITELY DESERVES SOME ATTENTION.

I THINK TIER TWO IS APPROPRIATE.

THE PAIN POINT THAT I'M HEARING, AND I QUITE FRANKLY AGREE WITH IS THAT A ROUNDABOUT IS JUST SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED.

I AGREE WITH RESIDENTS.

A ROUNDABOUT AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.

WE ELIMINATED THE CROSSWALK.

BUT I THINK THE POINT OF THIS CONVERSATION IS DO WE THINK THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AND KEEP IT A PART OF OUR MASTER PLAN TO MAKE A CHANGE IF NECESSARY, NOT NECESSARILY A ROUNDABOUT? I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT SUPPORT A ROUNDABOUT, BUT HEY, MAYBE THE RIGHT TURN LANE TAKES IT FROM AN F TO A C, AND WE CAN ELIMINATE SOME OF THE PAIN.

IT GOES FROM FIVE MINUTES TO TWO MINUTES OR SOMETHING THAT'S LESS EXPENSIVE, LESS OBTRUSIVE.

BUT I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD KEEP IT A PRIORITY TIER TWO AND KEEP THE OPTION OPEN.

LIKE CITY MANAGER SAID, NOT AN IMMEDIATE WE'RE BEHIND THE CURVE, BUT HEY, WE MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

RIGHT.

AND THERE IS NO ROUNDABOUT PROPOSED.

YEAH, BUT BUT HERE'S MY QUESTION, THOUGH IF WE WERE TO IF WE WERE TO HAVE A MOTION WITHIN THIS THAT SAID, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM INTO [INAUDIBLE] A ROUNDABOUT

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WOULD NOT BE AN OPTION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ARE WE REALLY DOING ANYTHING BECAUSE A FUTURE COUNCIL CAN COME BACK AND IMMEDIATELY CHANGE THAT TO A ROUNDABOUT AS AN OPTION? CORRECT.

WE'RE NOT APPROVING ANY TYPE OF UNDERSTAND THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF WE WERE TO SAY THAT A ROUNDABOUT IS NOT AN OPTION FOR THIS INTERSECTION, IF WE JUST DID THAT, DOES IT EVEN ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING RIGHT? THEY'RE JUST GOING TO TURN AROUND AND SAY EXACTLY ROUNDABOUT.

THEY CAN DO A ROUNDABOUT IN FIVE YEARS.

SO IT'S A MATTER OF DO YOU KEEP IT IN THE PLAN OR NOT? THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.

SO I'M FINE WITH LEAVING IT TIER TWO.

I'M DEFINITELY NOT FINE WITH MOVING IT UP AND THEN SHAUNA, IF YOU CAN FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

IF YOU CAN JUST EXPLAIN, CLARIFY FOR ALL OF THESE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE COME TO TALK ABOUT IT.

WHEN THIS COMES UP, WHAT IS THE PROCESS AND WHAT SHOULD THEY LOOK FOR? SO THE PROCESS WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD ENGAGE A CONSULTANT WHO WOULD, FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD BUDGET IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

WE WOULD BUDGET FUNDS TO ENGAGE A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT DEEPER DIVE ANALYSIS THAT I TALKED ABOUT.

AND AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, WE WOULD DO OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE CAN EVEN PUT LANGUAGE IN HERE AS A FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD PROMPT TO DO THAT KIND OF THING.

RECOGNIZING THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE'VE HAD THEN, YOU KNOW, IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE STUDY.

THE STUDY GETS PRESENTED.

THERE'S PROBABLY AN OPEN HOUSE OR A SPIN MEETING THAT WOULD BE HELD IN ORDER TO FOR THE CONSULTANT TO TALK ABOUT THEIR FINDINGS.

AND THEN NOTHING GETS BUILT UNTIL THERE'S ACTUALLY FUNDS APPROPRIATED FOR THAT PURPOSE.

SHANA WON'T WE HAVE AN UPDATED MOBILITY MASTER PLAN BY THE TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS WERE EVEN TO BE ENGAGED? I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING EVERY FIVE YEARS, SO WE EVEN SPEND A DOLLAR ON DOING ANY TYPE OF INTERSECTION WORK WITHOUT AN UPDATED MOBILITY PLAN, WHICH WOULD BE A YEAR.

RIGHT.

WE PURSUED PROJECTS THAT ARE LINKED TO OUR MASTER PLAN.

YEAH, I MEAN, THIS SEEMS LIKE WE'RE.

THE KEY BASED ON EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS IS THEY EXPECTED THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON A ROUNDABOUT TONIGHT.

EVERYBODY I TALKED TO, SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE VOTED ON TONIGHT AND LIKELY NOT IN THE FUTURE.

AND ANY VOTES IN THE FUTURE YOU GUYS WITH THE MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS WILL HAVE INPUT INVOLVEMENT AND WILL BE MADE AWARE OF IT.

SO I THINK THE THE BIG FEAR IS IS IS NOT REAL.

AND I THINK OF ALL THE THINGS WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, THAT'S THE KEY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE VOTING ON A ROUNDABOUT TONIGHT OR LIKELY AT ANY POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE OR AT ALL.

SIR, I SEE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT OPEN, SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP TALKING IF WE NEED TO OPEN IT BACK UP.

YOU'LL BE THE FIRST ONE WE CAN CALL ON.

OK? THERE MAY EVEN BE AN OPPORTUNITY KEN IF YOU CAN COME FORWARD TO TALK ABOUT LANGUAGE.

THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES IN THE PAST WHERE PARTICULAR SOLUTIONS WERE NOT PALATABLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE HAVE INCORPORATED LANGUAGE INTO OUR MASTER PLANS.

SO THERE MIGHT EVEN BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MODIFY THE LANGUAGE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, EVALUATE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT OPTIONS, EXCLUDING A ROUNDABOUT, IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTED TO DO.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I SAID EARLIER.

I DON'T KNOW THAT ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE A FUTURE COUNCIL COULD JUST COME BACK AND CHANGE IT.

SO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO RIGHT, THIS IS A MASTER PLAN.

IN THE FUTURE, COUNCIL CAN CHANGE IT.

YEAH, BUT I MEAN, A MASTER PLAN IS A REFLECTION OF THE CITY'S PRIORITIES, WHICH NECESSARILY IS INFORMED BY STRONGLY THE FOLKS WHO ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS INTERSECTION, WHICH ARE THE FOLKS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM TONIGHT.

SOME OF THOSE CAVEATS, THOUGH, HAVE SURVIVED.

WE'VE GOT TO EVALUATE AND IMPLEMENT.

NO, NO.

I AGREE.

THE IMPLEMENT, I THINK, IS WHAT EVERYBODY HAS A HEARTBURN ON, BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE UNDERSTAND THERE'S ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE, WE ALL KNOW THAT, BUT IT FEELS LIKE THE IMPLEMENTATION IN THE PLAN MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CERTAIN THAN MAYBE IT MAKES IT FEEL MORE CERTAIN THAN IT REALLY IS.

SO WHAT IF WE LEFT IT AS A PRIORITY TIER TWO AND JUST SAID WE'RE GOING TO AT SOME POINT FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS, EVALUATE THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND AND DETERMINE IF WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT ANY IMPROVEMENTS? WELL, IN THAT CASE, I WOULD THINK THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION METRIC WOULD BE COMPLETION OF THE ANALYSIS.

YEAH, COMPLETION AND THEN WE KNOW WHEN WE'VE MET THE RECOMMENDATION AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER IMPLEMENTATION SOLUTION IS PALATABLE TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE COUNCIL.

SO THEN WE HAVE SOMETHING IN OUR, YOU KNOW, FUTURE PLAN THAT SAYS WE WANT TO LOOK AT THIS IN CASE THE SITUATION DOES GET WORSE.

BUT MAYBE WE DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

MAYBE WE DON'T.

WOULD THERE BE A WAY TO INCLUDE IN THAT MOTION DIRECTIVE TO STAFF TO ENSURE THAT ONCE THAT ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATIONS WERE COMPLETED, THAT THE

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PRESIDENT OF THE HOA FOR COVENTRY WOULD BE CONTACTED TO SHARE THAT SO THAT THERE'S NO CONFUSION OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED AND WE WEREN'T AWARE.

AND THAT KIND OF THING IS THAT POSSIBLE TO DO THAT IS POSSIBLE.

AND THEN IF YOU INCLUDE IT IN YOUR MOTION, THAT WILL MEMORIALIZE IT PER SAY FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.

DID YOU GET THAT CHAD? STALL WHILE HE WRITES.

OK, ALL RIGHT.

SO THE THOUGHT IS IN THE MASTER PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT SO CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS WILL AT LEAST BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT WITH THE CITY.

CERTAINLY, ALL OF YOU WILL BE IF YOU'RE AROUND, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL ARE WILL BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS.

AND AT THAT POINT, IF IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS, IF IMPROVEMENTS ARE NECESSARY, THEN WE CAN BEGIN THE DISCUSSION OR YOU CAN WITH THE FUTURE COUNCIL OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THAT WORKS.

ANY OTHER ITEMS ON THIS PLAN WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, AND LET'S GO ITEM BY ITEM.

OK, THAT'S GOOD.

ITEM BY ITEM, OK? ALL RIGHT.

MAYOR PRO TEM PATTON, YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING FOR US? YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6I, WHICH IS OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ORDINANCE NUMBER 1075-C, WHICH IS THE SECOND READING THE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS AN ELEMENT OF THE SOUTHLAKE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFFORD REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 30TH, 2021.

SO LISTEN CLOSELY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF ITEMS I'M GOING TO READ OFF HERE.

THE FIRST ONE IS APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN TO AMEND THE SIDEWALK PRIORITIES AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND NOTING THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS TO THE PRIORITY LIST BASED ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITIZEN FEEDBACK.

RANDALL MILL SIDEWALK FROM MORGAN ROAD TO DOVE ROAD, WHICH IS CLASSIFIED THE SIDEWALK AS A PRIORITY SEGMENT WITH A TIER TWO DESIGNATION WITH DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DEPENDENT ON COORDINATION WITH THE TOWN OF WESTLAKE, SOUTHLAKE MUST EITHER HAVE PERMISSION TO CONSTRUCT THE SIDEWALK ALONG RANDALL MILL AVENUE WITHIN THE TOWN OF WESTLAKE OR WESTLAKE MUST HAVE A BUILT A SIDEWALK FROM DOVE STREET TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CORPORATE LIMITS.

FURTHER, DUE TO THE COST OF THE PROJECT, CONSTRUCTION IS DEPENDENT ON RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND FUNDING AVAILABILITY.

GRANT FUNDING MAY BE A POSSIBILITY AS INNER CITY CONNECTIVITY AND IMPROVING SAFETY ARE TYPICAL GRANT EVALUATION CRITERIA.

CATEGORIES NEXT EAST HIGHLAND STREET PROJECT NUMBER 492 MOVE THIS PROJECT FROM A TIER THREE TO A TIER ONE PROJECT DUE TO THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSTRUCT THIS SEGMENT IN COORDINATION WITH THE HIGHLAND STREET WATER LINE PROJECT SCHEDULED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

NEXT IS EAST DOVE ROAD PROJECT 491, WHICH IS TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FROM A TIER THREE TO A TIER ONE.

HOWEVER, DUE TO THE COST OF THE PROJECT, CONSTRUCTION IS DEPENDENT ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND FUNDING AVAILABILITY.

GRANT FUNDING IS A POSSIBILITY AS THIS PROJECT WOULD HELP LINK SOUTHLAKE AND GRAPEVINE.

SIDEWALK NETWORKS AND INNER REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY IS AN EVALUATION CRITERIA CATEGORY FOR SOME GRANTS NEXT TO SOUTH PATENT BILL PROJECT 304.

MOVE THIS PROJECT FROM A TIER THREE TO A TIER ONE TO IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD AND FM 1709.

NEXT IS NORTH PEYTONVILLE PROJECT 204, WHICH IS TO MAINTAIN THIS PROJECT AS A TIER THREE.

DUE TO THE COST OF THIS PROJECT, CONSTRUCTION IS DEPENDENT ON RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND FUNDING AVAILABILITY NEXT TO SOUTHLAKE SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, FROM FM 1709 TO CONTINENTAL, WHICH IS TO MAINTAIN THE CLASSIFICATION OF THIS SECTION AS A FUTURE SIDEWALK PROJECT.

NEXT IS THE DAVIS BOULEVARD PROJECT 469.

MOVING THIS PROJECT FROM A TIER THREE TO A TIER TWO TO COMPLETE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN FM 1709 AND CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD NEXT TO SHADY OAKS PROJECT 476A MOVING THIS PROJECT FROM A TIER THREE TO A TIER TWO TO COMPLETE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN FM 1709 AND HIGHLAND STREET.

NEXT IS CARROLL AVENUE BETWEEN STATE HIGHWAY 114 AND WHISPERING LANE, CLASSIFYING THIS SIDEWALK AS A PRIORITY SEGMENT WITH A TIER TWO DESIGNATION.

COMPLETING THE GAPS IN THIS AREA WOULD PROVIDE A CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF CARROLL AVENUE, FROM DOVE TO CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD, ALSO PROVING THE AMENDMENTS TO THE OFFICIAL PATHWAYS MAP, WHICH IS ZINA RUCKER ROAD IN NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD AND THE ADDITION OF ROADWAY PROJECTS SHADY OAKS TO HIGHLAND INTERSECTION AND THE STATE HIGHWAY 114 LANE ADDITION AND RAMP REVERSAL STUDIES, AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, ALSO NOTING MT51, WHICH IS THE SHADY OAKS HIGHLAND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE IMPLEMENTATION METRIC OF EVALUATING THE FINAL ANALYSIS AND INCLUDING STAFF'S INCORPORATION OF FEEDBACK FROM THE HOA REPRESENTATIVES OF COVENTRY MANOR.

FINALLY, APPROVING ALL EDITS TO THE MASTER PLAN AS DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

DIRECTOR BAKER? GOT A THUMBS UP.

THUMBS UP.

GREAT MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

OK, THAT ITEM 6I PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU GUYS.

APPRECIATE ALL YOU ALL'S FEEDBACK.

WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK AND TAKE UP ITEM 6A, WHICH IS ORDINANCE 480-564E

[6.A. Ordinance No. 480-564E, (ZA20-0029), 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Development Plan for Carillon Pare on property described as Tracts 1, 1D, 1E, 1F, 1G, 3A, 3A01, 3A03, 3A04, 3A04A, 3A05, and 3A01B, Larkin H. Chivers Survey, Abstract No. 300, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 1775, 1781 and 1801 N. White Chapel Blvd., 1840 Riviera Ln., 201 E. Kirkwood Blvd., 1700 N. Carroll Ave. (addressed as 1900 N. Carroll Ave. by Tarrant Appraisal District) and 100 through 300 E. State Hwy. 114, generally located east of N. White Chapel Blvd., south of E. Kirkwood Blvd., west of Riviera Ln., and north of E. State Hwy. 114. Current Zoning: "ECZ" Employment Center Zoning District. Proposed Zoning: "ECZ" Employment Center Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #3. PUBLIC HEARING]

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ZA-0029 SECOND READING, ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CARILLON PARK MAYOR, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS AGENDA ITEM.

DIRECTOR BAKER ? MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS IS THE REQUEST ON SECOND READING FOR APPROVAL OF ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PLAZA DISTRICT PORTION OF CARILLON 42 ACRES.

THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING THE EXISTING REGULATIONS TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN UNDER CONSIDERATION.

I BELIEVE EVERYBODY KNOWS THE PROPERTY LOCATION JUST QUICKLY.

AT YOUR LAST READING, YOU RECALL THERE WERE TWO OPTIONS PRESENTED AN OPTION A AND OPTION B.

THE OPTION B OPTION WAS APPROVED ON FIRST READING.

THE CHANGES INCREASE THE NUMBER OF VILLAS TO 79 INCREASED WHAT IS IDENTIFIED AS BUILDING B IN SIZE.

IT'S ORANGE ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL LOFT FROM 25 TO 50.

THE PARK DEDICATION WAS REDUCED FROM 12 TO APPROXIMATELY EIGHT TO NINE ACRES.

THE NORTH TOWER ON THE PARK COMPONENT WAS ELIMINATED.

ALSO DURING THAT DISCUSSION, THE AREA OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WAS DEVELOPED AS AN ALTERNATIVE USE AREA THAT COULD INCLUDE THE LIBRARY OR MULTI-USE CENTER COULD ALSO INCLUDE RETAIL, RESTAURANT, OFFICE, HOTEL AND CHAPEL, AND THAT WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE ZONING BOOKLET IF APPROVED.

ALSO DISCUSSED IN DETAIL AT YOUR FIRST READING WAS THE PHASING PLAN.

BASED ON THE FIRST READING MOTION, THE PHASE ONE SITE INFRASTRUCTURE SITE INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT, WHICH IS SHOWN IN PURPLE ON THE EXHIBIT, WHICH INCLUDES THE ROADWAY AND UTILITIES, WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE RELEASE OF THE 79 VILLA PRODUCT LOTS.

THAT MEANS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT UTILITIES INSTALLED AND INSPECTED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY, AND THOSE LOTS COULD BE RELEASED FOR BUILDING PERMIT AT THAT TIME.

UNDER THE PHASE ONE, YOU HAVE THE PARK COMPONENT.

THE APPLICANT DOES LIST THE PHASE ONE BUILDINGS, BUT IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S INTEREST, THE PARK AND THE CARILLON BELL TOWER AS THE PRIMARY TOWERS AND THE SECONDARY TOWERS.

THE PHASING CONDITION TO THAT WAS THAT PRIOR TO A CO OR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, MEANING THAT THE STRUCTURE COULD BE BUILT BUT NOT COULD BE OCCUPIED, AND MAINTAINED AND THOSE PHASE ONE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD HAVE TO TAKE PLACE PRIOR TO THE CO OF ANY NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDING STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMPLETION OF WHITE CHAPEL, THE WIDENING FROM 114 TO KIRKWOOD BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO A CO BEING ISSUED ON ANY OF THE NONRESIDENTIAL OR THE COMMERCIAL MULTI-USE BUILDINGS.

AND THAT IS THE PHASING PLAN, THERE IS ONE VARIANCE INDICATED ON THE SLIDE FOR THE STACKING DEPTH.

THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION.

YOUR MOTION AT FIRST READING IS IN YOUR PACKET, BUT ALSO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE IN THE SLIDE IF NEEDED GOING FORWARD THIS EVENING, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.

DIRECTOR BAKER, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR BAKER AT THIS TIME? COUNCIL? OK, SIR, APPRECIATE IT.

I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU LATER.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE, MR. TERRELL? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JOHN TERRELL.

MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 161 SUMMIT AVENUE, SUITE 200 HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

THANK YOU THIS EVENING FOR I ACTUALLY THINK THAT OUR PRESENTATION WILL NOT BE THE LONGEST PRESENTATION OF THE EVENING FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FOUR YEARS.

SO LOOK FORWARD TO RUNNING THROUGH THIS WITH YOU QUICKLY.

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT I JUST HIT, BUT IT DISAPPEARED.

KEN, CAN YOU HELP ME? NOT YOUR BEST PRESENTATION, JOHN, I MEAN, THIS IS OK.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH SOME TECHNOLOGY.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT.

JUST OK, JUST DOWN THERE.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME BECAUSE KEN ALREADY RAN THROUGH WHAT HAS BEEN BRIEFED AND WHAT WE WENT THROUGH IN THE LAST MEETING, BUT JUST TO SHOW THE SITE PLAN IS OVER ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN AND THE BREAKDOWN OF USES AS KEN WENT THROUGH JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

THIS IS JUST A BROADER VIEW OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IN THE NORTH END AND TWO, WHAT WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT ALTERNATE USE AREA DOWN AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND PORTION OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AND WORK WITH THE CITY JUST AS A REASSURANCE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IDENTICAL TO THE ONES THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET.

THEY WILL FALL INTO THE SAME ZONING CATEGORY AS WELL AS HAVE ALL THE SAME RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

WE WILL BE DOING THE WALL AROUND THAT TO MATCH AND MIRROR THE WALL THAT IS CURRENTLY CARILLON.

I MEAN, YEAH, ALL OVER CARILLON.

AND THE THE ENTRANCE FEATURE ON OUR SIDE OF THE STREET AT KIRKWOOD WILL BASICALLY BE REFLECTIVE AND AN IDENTICAL MIRROR IMAGE OF THE ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF KIRKWOOD.

THIS JUST REPRESENTS WHERE WE'RE DOING THE WALL.

WE WILL STILL ATTEMPT, ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOW HAVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN FRONT OF THE WALL ALONG RIVIERA, WHERE WE WERE GOING TO PLACE THE MAGNOLIAS.

THERE IS STILL AN OPPORTUNITY AT SOME OF THE LOCATIONS TO PLACE THE MAGNOLIA TREES.

BUT RIGHT NOW THOSE WILL BE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WHICH WILL ALSO HELP BUFFER AND PROTECT THE VIEW FROM THE RESIDENTS ACROSS THE STREET.

JUST AS A REMINDER, AS WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS DONE OVER THE MANY YEARS, THIS IS IN CONFORMANCE AND EXPANDS UPON THE PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS ADDED IN THE 2025, 2030, 2035, THE 114 SECTOR PLAN, PARKS AND REC PLAN, LIBRARY STUDY, RETAIL SATURATION STUDY AND THE ECONOMIC CLUSTER ANALYSIS.

WE DO HAVE SOME A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATES IN TERMS OF THE CULINARY INSTITUTE AND SO FORTH THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AND HAD HAD FURTHER MEETINGS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

DR. LEDBETTER, AS WELL AS HIS STAFF AND A NUMBER OF OTHER INDIVIDUALS AT THE SCHOOL, INCLUDING SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, AND THEY ARE INCREDIBLY IN FAVOR, SUPPORTIVE AND WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US TO HELP EXPAND THEIR CURRICULUM AND HAVE CLASSES AND TRAINING IN THE CULINARY ARTS AND HOSPITALITY AND CARILLON PARK AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED AND THEY WERE BEYOND EXCITED TO PARTNER WITH US, AND IT HAPPENED TO ALIGN WITH SOME OF THE CARROLL ISD'S VISION.

CURRENTLY THAT HAS NO POLITICAL OPPOSITION, ONE SIDE OR ANOTHER TO EXPAND THE CURRICULUM INTO THE CULINARY ARTS.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT EVERYBODY BEING EXCITED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE PROJECT.

WE STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A CULTURAL EVENT.

WE STILL DO NOT HAVE THIS DESIGN FOR THE NATIONAL CHAIN RETAILERS OR NATIONAL CHAIN RESTAURANTS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL.

THESE ARE THE VIEW OF THE KIOSKS AROUND THE FOUNTAIN IN THE PARK AREA, WHERE A LOT OF THE ENTERTAINMENT WILL TAKE PLACE AND YOU HAVE BOTH AN AMPHITHEATER UP IN THE GRASSY AREA, AS WELL AS GREAT VISIBILITY FROM THE RESTAURANTS AND THE UPPER DECK THAT FRONTS ALL OF THOSE RESTAURANTS.

AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN SOME OF THE WOODEN STRUCTURES WHERE WE WOULD HAVE AN ALIGNMENT WITH FOOD TRUCKS SO THAT THEY CAN COME IN AND SERVE DURING FESTIVALS AND AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION AMONGST COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF ABOUT THE FOUNTAIN, AND THE DEVELOPER IS MORE THAN WILLING TO TAKE ON ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT FOUNTAIN GOING FORWARD.

THIS, AGAIN, IS MORE OF A WATER FEATURE THAN WHAT IS TYPICAL FOUNTAIN, AND I WILL ONCE AGAIN ASSURE COUNCIL THIS WILL NOT BE LIKE WHAT IS CATTY CORNER? AND THIS WILL FUNCTION ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND WE WILL HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT OPERATES REGULARLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ALSO FAIR TO JUST SAY THIS IS THIS IS NOT A FOUNTAIN.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS JUST A PIECE OF ART.

THIS IS AN INTERACTIVE MUSIC SYNCHRONIZED WITH THE MOTION LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A DESTINATION DRAW.

AND IN FACT, WE JUST HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH OTL, WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE LINES, THE ONE

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OF THE TOP TWO WATER FEATURE COMPANIES IN THE COUNTRY.

AND THIS IS GOING TO IMPROVE THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AS A DESTINATION DRAW TO EVEN BEYOND THE METROPOLITAN AREA.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT CAME OUT EITHER TODAY OR YESTERDAY IN CLYBORNE PARK, THEY'RE GOING TO DO A 55 FOOT SPRAY FOUNTAIN THAT IS INTERACTIVE, THE LARGEST ONE IN THE US OR THE WORLD AND THE DOLLARS THAT THEY SAY IS THAT ALONE IS GOING TO GENERATE AN ADDITIONAL SALES AND DESTINATION TRAFFIC TO THAT AREA IS PHENOMENAL.

SO I THINK THAT FEATURE AGAIN IS ALSO SOMETHING TO LOOK TOWARDS AND THEIR RESEARCH IS WHAT THEY DID.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE CULINARY AND CCI, WHICH IS THE CARILLON CULINARY INSTITUTE WILL BE THE NAME OF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT AND THEN THE HOSPITALITY ALLIANCE GROUP.

WE HAVE JUST MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS WITH A NUMBER OF VERY HIGH NAMED RESTAURANTS AND CHEFS.

WE HAVE PULLED TOGETHER ALMOST NOT ALL, BUT ALMOST ALL OF THE CHEFS IN TOWN, AT THE WESTIN, AT CALABRESE AND AT THE DELTA.

ALL OF THEM WANT TO JOIN A ORGANIZATION THAT WE WILL FORM TO COORDINATE WITH THE CULINARY INSTITUTE AND THE TRAINING PROGRAMS, WITH ALL OF THESE CHEFS PARTICIPATING IN THAT FOR OUR OWN STUDENTS.

THESE ARE JUST A VIEW OF SOME OF THE LUXURY LOFTS AGAIN, THAT WITH THE NEW PLAN, WILL WRAP AROUND THE SEMICIRCLE AND TAKE THE PLACE OF WHERE THE LIBRARY IS CURRENTLY SHOWN.

THE UNITS, AS KEN SAID, AND HAS BEEN IN YOUR PACKET AND WHAT WAS APPROVED.

WE'VE GOT 50 UNITS ON ABOUT 22 ACRES, TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED MINIMUM SQUARE FOOT, VERY, VERY HIGH END AMENITIES, AND THESE WILL PROBABLY BE THE HIGHEST PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT LAND.

AND AS YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT RESIDENCE BEING CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE PARK AND OVERLOOKING THAT INTERACTIVE FOUNTAIN.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A HIGHER END LOCATION IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE OR POTENTIALLY IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA.

THE WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT JUST THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SQUARE FOOT SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHT THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND NINE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET UNDER THE CURRENT PLANS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE PHASING PLAN.

I WON'T GO BACK OVER THAT BECAUSE KEN DID A GOOD JOB TALKING ABOUT THE PHASING PLAN UNLESS ANYBODY'S GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE PHASING PLAN, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS.

THE PARK THIS IS BASICALLY HOW IT IS LAID OUT CURRENTLY AS PROPOSED, BUT WITH THE ALTERNATE PLAN THAT WE'RE HOLDING IN TERMS OF THE ACREAGE THAT THE CITY WILL LOOK AT OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, THAT BOUNDARY OF THE PARK MAY MOVE AROUND BECAUSE THAT LIBRARY WILL BE INSIDE OF THE PARK AREA.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK ON ACCESS THAT ENTIRE AREA.

IF WE IF THE CITY DECIDES TO PUT THAT IN HAS TO BE REDESIGNED.

WE HAVE TO HAVE NEW ACCESS POINTS AND THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PARKING DISCUSSIONS AS TO HOW THAT WORKS.

AND THEN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PARK MAY END UP CHANGING DEPENDING ON HOW WE LAY OUT THOSE BUILDINGS, BECAUSE THIS WAS DESIGNED ON THESE BUILDINGS, WHICH COULD EASILY CHANGE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS IF THE CITY ELECTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME KIND OF MULTIPURPOSE AND LIBRARY FACILITY AT THAT LOCATION.

I PUT THIS UP HERE JUST TO SHOW THE OUTLINE OF THE PINK AREA THAT WE ARE GOING TO HOLD OFF DOING ANY SIGNIFICANT ENGINEERING UNTIL THE CITY MAKES A DECISION AND WE'VE GOT PLENTY TO DO ON OUR PLATE BEFORE THAT SIX MONTHS OCCURS.

SO THAT IS NOT DELAYING US AT ALL IN TERMS OF OUR PLANNING EFFORTS, AND WE VERY MUCH ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY TO LOOK VERY STRONGLY AT THIS.

WE THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION.

IT IS A DRIVER FOR ALL OF THESE RESTAURANTS, THE RETAIL, THE ENTERTAINMENT, THE VIEWS THAT WILL BE AFFORDED THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY AT THIS LOCATION WILL BE PHENOMENAL.

SO IT WILL ALSO DRAW PEOPLE NOT ONLY AS A LIBRARY OF PERFORMING ARTS OR MULTI-PURPOSE TYPE FACILITY, BUT THE PARK ITSELF IS GOING TO BE A DRAW TO FOLKS WHO WANT TO UTILIZE THAT LIBRARY AND MULTIPURPOSE FACILITY.

I'VE GONE OVER THESE SOME OF THE OVERALL TAX VALUE, TAXABLE VALUE ON THE PROPERTY.

TAXABLE SALES.

THE ESTIMATED OUT OF TOWN VISITORS JUST IN THE FIRST YEAR.

AND WHEN I SAY OF OPENING, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE THING BEING OPEN.

AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE A HUGE AMOUNT OF NATIONAL RECOGNITION WE'D LIKE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY.

THIS IS STILL AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT, ONE THAT I THINK IS GOING TO WIN EVERY SINGLE

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KIND OF AWARD FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT.

AND HATS OFF AGAIN TO THE AWARDS THAT THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND KEN AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE.

THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB.

BUT WE THINK THAT WE CAN WIN EVERY KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL AWARD.

CITY PLANNING BOARD PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AWARDS.

AND WE WANT THIS TO BE THE ACTUAL FOCAL POINT FOR EVERYTHING THAT THIS CITY STANDS FOR GOING FORWARD AND GET THAT KIND OF OUT TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY AND HAVE AN INVITATION IN.

I JUST PUT THIS BACK UP FOR ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, AND I WON'T BELABOR ANY FURTHER AND OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? JOHN, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

ON ONE OF THE SLIDES, PREVIOUS SLIDES, YOU YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE BUILDINGS IN THE PINK AND THEN ON ANOTHER ONE, YOU DID.

SO I JUST WANT TO GO ONE FORWARD.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE ACTUAL PARK AREA BECAUSE THIS ONE MAKES IT LOOK LIKE THE BUILDINGS.

AND I BELIEVE LAST TIME YOU MENTIONED ONE OF THESE BUILDINGS COULD BE A PLACEHOLDER FOR THE LIBRARY PERFORMING ARTS, NOT ONE OF THE BUILDINGS.

THE WHOLE AREA THAT IS HERE IS A PLACEHOLDER BECAUSE THE DESIGN OF THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE FOR THE LIBRARY.

WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ONE STORY, TWO STORY, HOW IT MIGHT BE SPREAD OUT.

SO WE DON'T KNOW IF JUST TAKING THE ONE MIDDLE BUILDING, WHICH IS KIND OF HOW WE SAW GENERALLY WHERE IT WOULD FIT THAT ENTIRE AREA IN THE PINK WILL HAVE TO BE TOTALLY RECONFIGURED.

WE CAN'T JUST SAY THAT ONE BUILDING STAYS JUST LIKE IT IS.

IT MAY END UP THAT THE WHOLE THING KIND OF COMES IN CLOSER AND WRAPS AROUND.

IF YOU'RE DOING, LET'S SAY THAT YOU ARE DOING A PERFORMING ARTS AND YOU'VE GOT THIS SECOND FLOOR LOOKING OUT, YOU MAY NOT WANT IT AS CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY.

YOU MAY WANT IT SO THAT IT IS REALLY RIGHT FRONTING THE FOUNTAIN AND MAKING IT A PART OF THAT BUILDING.

WE ALSO UNDERSTAND, THOUGH, THAT WE NEED A VISIBILITY TO THAT FACILITY.

SO EVEN IF IT DOESN'T FRONT THE ACCESS ROAD, IT HAS TO HAVE A PRESENCE UP ON THE ACCESS ROAD THAT CAN BE SEEN FROM THE HIGHWAY THAT ANYONE DRIVING BY KNOWS HOW TO GET IN.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME DESIGN.

WE DON'T WANT TO START A DESIGN LIKE THAT UNTIL THE CITY MAKES A DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO PUT SOMETHING THERE.

THEN WE WOULD WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE CITY ON THE EXACT PLACEMENT, HOW MANY ACRES, BUT THAT THAT MAY CHANGE THE CONFIGURATION OF THAT.

SO, SO THE PARK IS NOT DOESN'T INCLUDE THOSE BUILDINGS.

THE PARK DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BUILDINGS.

AND IT DOESN'T REALLY INCLUDE WHERE THE CHAPEL IS.

GOT IT.

SO WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING WE WOULD MOVE THAT CHAPEL TO ACCOMMODATE THE LIBRARY AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT DOES IT EVEN STAY IN THE PROJECT? DOES IT MOVE TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION? THOSE WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE DONE IN HAND IN HAND WITH THE CITY AS WE LOOK AT WHAT EVEN THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT WOULD BE.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOHN AT THIS POINT.

OK, SIR, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS Y'ALL'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS US ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU'VE HEARD, EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH CARILLON.

SO ONCE AGAIN, IN CASE ANYBODY MISSED MS. IT IN THE PRIOR ITEM, THREE MINUTES, THE GREEN LIGHT WILL GO ON WHEN YOU START YELLOW LIGHT, WHEN YOU GOT ONE MINUTE LEFT AND RED LIGHT STARTS BLINKING AND WE'LL ALL BE DONE.

SO I'VE GOT A STACK OF COMMENT CARDS.

IF YOU'VE CHANGED YOUR MIND ABOUT SPEAKING OR NOT SPEAKING, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND.

AND IF YOU DIDN'T SUBMIT A CARD BUT STILL WANT TO SPEAK.

JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL BE.

WE'LL INVITE YOU DOWN TO TO TALK.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO AND DO THE PUBLIC HEARING SAID.

OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS SUSAN STEINBRECKER, WHO WISHES TO WHO DOES NOT, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK SORRY BUT WANTS TO REGISTER HER SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

SUSAN WILSON, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT, ELEANORA SCOTT, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

BETSY KIDD, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

CHRIS KIDD, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

LINDA HEYWORTH, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

EDWARD CHEW, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

DENISE SHIRLEY, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER, SUPPORT.

MIKE SHIREY, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS SUPPORT.

JOANNE [INAUDIBLE] DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HER SUPPORT.

MARLENE RIEGER, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK FOR THE RECORD HER SUPPORT.

AND JEFF MEISSNER, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD HIS OPPOSITION.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO ACTUALLY WANTS TO SPEAK? ANYBODY AT ALL? COME ON DOWN.

THIS IS LIKE AN AUCTION, IF YOU BLINK, I'M GOING TO CALL ON YOU.

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PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.

TRACY ELVING 1709 RIVIERA LANE.

SO I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THOSE EXTRA FIVE HOUSES THAT WERE THERE.

I THINK REALLY WHAT I WANT TO EXPRESS IS SOME CONCERN OR SOME QUESTIONS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE ANSWERED RELATIVE TO THIS.

SO THE DEVELOPER JOHN AND HIS TEAM CAME AND SAW CAME TO MY HOME AND WHEN THE LIBRARY WAS GOING TO BE THERE, THE PARKING LOT WAS THERE AND THEY WORKED WITH US IN TERMS OF THAT AND WE WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.

WITHOUT THE LIBRARY, WE'RE NOW CONCERNED FOR YEARS WE'VE HEARD THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE LIBRARY TO MAKE THIS VIABLE.

AND SO AT THIS POINT, WE FEEL LIKE THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED FIRST AND UNDERSTAND, IS THAT REALLY GOING TO BE PUT HERE OR NOT? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMSON AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU SAID, WELL, AT THE VERY WORST, WHAT WE GET IS 80 HOUSES, WHICH IS FINE TO A POINT.

BUT IF THIS LAND GETS CLEARED COMMERCIALLY AND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE GOES IN AND THEN DOESN'T GET DEVELOPED BECAUSE THE LIBRARY DOESN'T GO HERE AND THERE BECOMES ECONOMIC REASONS, IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE HALF OF IT DEVELOPED.

BUT THE REST IS JUST KIND OF FLAT BEARING AND I LIVED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.

IT'S NOT REALLY WHAT I WANT TO SEE.

SOMEONE MENTIONED BEFORE IF IT'S JUST GOOD, THEN THAT'S OK.

I LIVE IN SOUTHLAKE GOOD ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH.

I WANTED TO BE GREAT AND WE WERE IN SUPPORT WHEN THE LIBRARY WAS GOING HERE WITHOUT IT OR WITHOUT A COMMITMENT TO IT.

WE HAVE CONCERNS NOW, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? OK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SEEING, NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND DIRECTOR BAKER, WHY DON'T YOU COME ON UP I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO KIND OF GET US STARTED HERE.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY HAD SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARK DEDICATION VIS A VIS THE DECISION ON THE LIBRARY AND THE TIMING OF ALL THAT UNDERSTANDING, IT'S A LITTLE BIT IN FLUX.

AS MR. TERRELL POINTED OUT, WITHOUT THAT DECISION, THEY REALLY CAN'T FINALIZE THE METES AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION OF OF WHAT THAT PARK IS ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

BUT COULD YOU TALK TO THE TIMING OF THAT DEDICATION? NUMBER ONE, AND ALSO MECHANICALLY LIKE HOW MUCH OF THAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE ACTUAL PD ZONING REQUIRED TO BE DEDICATED? THE WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND FROM THE STAFF LEVEL, THE APPLICATION INDICATES ANYWHERE FROM EIGHT TO NINE ACRES UNLESS SOMETHING OCCURRED IN EITHER THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT OR FEATURE 380 AGREEMENT THAT IS APPROVED BY AN ACTION BY COUNCIL SOMEHOW REDUCES THAT ACREAGE.

THE OTHER POSSIBILITY WHERE THE ACREAGE COULD BE REDUCED, AS MR. TERRELL INDICATED, IF A LIBRARY OR A NEW BUILDING WAS MOVED, I GUESS TO THE NORTH INTO THE PARK, THE FOOTPRINT WOULD ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE SOME OF THE PARK LAND IF IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT SHOULD BE WITHIN THE PARK OR IF THAT WAS DETERMINED AT SOME FUTURE DATE.

RIGHT NOW, THE DEDICATION TIMING IS NOT TIED DOWN.

YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT IN THE ZONING.

IT COULD BE TIED TO THE THE RELEASE OF THE BUILDING LOTS ONCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S IN.

BUT YOU HAVE OTHER OPTIONS TOO, WHERE YOU COULD TIME THAT CONVEYANCE TO THE CITY ON THE PARK, DEDICATION AND DEDICATION.

THE ACTUAL TITLE TO THAT LAND, ONCE IT'S DESCRIBED, CONVEYS TO THE CITY.

YES, AND HOPEFULLY AT THAT PERIOD AT THAT POINT, THE DETERMINATION LIBRARY WOULD BE MADE AND YOU COULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE ACREAGE AND THE LIMITS OF THE BOUNDARY OF THE PARK.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING THE TIMING RIGHT NOW IS UP IN THE AIR, BUT WE CAN NAIL THAT DOWN AS PART OF THE ZONING.

OK, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? OK, THANKS DIRECTOR BAKER, JOHN, COME ON UP REAL QUICK.

OK, SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, WE HAD ONE PUBLIC COMMENTER WHO WAS CONCERNED THE PROJECT MIGHT NOT BE VIABLE WITHOUT THE LIBRARY.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT PLACE? WELL, WE SUBSTITUTED WITH THE CITY'S PERMISSION.

THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT'S WHAT MADE IT VIABLE.

WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS AS GOOD WITHOUT IT.

I THINK WE'VE CONTINUED TO STATE THAT, YEAH, BUT NOT HAVING IT WILL NOT KEEP US FROM BUILDING WHAT WE HAVE JUST SHOWN.

QUESTION, THOUGH, THAT ANSWER MAKES ME THINK IT'S WHEN YOU SAY IT'S NOT VIABLE.

IT MAKES ME THINK YOU'RE SAYING IT'S VIABLE FOR YOU TO BUILD IT, BUT MAYBE NOT

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VIABLE FOR THE LONG TERM SUCCESS OF THE PROJECT.

NO, WE WOULDN'T BUILD IT UNLESS IT'S VIABLE FOR THE LONG TERM SUCCESS OF THE PROJECT.

IT HAS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

IS IT MORE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE LIBRARY? ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S A DESTINATION DRAW, BUT IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT THE LIBRARY.

OK, SO YOU HEARD WHAT DIRECTOR BAKER WAS SAYING ABOUT THE PARK DEDICATION TIMING.

TALK TO US ABOUT YOUR VISION FOR THAT.

WELL, TYPICALLY THE PARK DEDICATION WOULDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL WE COMPLETE THE PARK.

AND THEN YOU ACCEPT AS A CITY THE PARK IN WHAT WE HAVE AGREED TO BUILD IN THE PARK.

ADDITIONALLY, WE COULD NOT POSSIBLY COME IN AND DEDICATE A LEGAL BOUNDARY UNTIL THE CITY MAKES A DECISION ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO WITH THE LIBRARY.

IF THE CITY TOO, DETERMINES THAT IN SIX MONTHS IT DOES WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE LIBRARY, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH THE CITY TO DESIGN THAT ENTIRE AREA AND LAY OUT THE BOUNDARIES.

AND UNTIL THAT LEGAL DESCRIPTION COULD BE DONE, WE COULDN'T DEDICATE AND TRANSFER THE PARK.

IF THE CITY DETERMINES IT'S NOT GOING TO DO THE LIBRARY, THEN WE CAN ESTABLISH THOSE SAME AREAS THAT WE HAD IN OOOPS, IN THAT NOW AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT VARIOUS SITE PLANS, SO WE'D HAVE TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHICH THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE ARE GENERAL IN NATURE.

WE DON'T HAVE ENGINEERED DRAWINGS OF HOW THOSE SIT.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ENOUGH SPACE IN WHICH WE CAN BUILD THOSE BUILDINGS NEXT TO THE PARK.

SO THIS IS A GENERAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CONVEY.

WITHOUT THE LIBRARY, IF THE LIBRARY OCCURS, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND THAT'LL TAKE A BIT OF TIME.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

WE TALKED ABOUT A SIX MONTH TIME FRAME, AND AFTER THAT, WHAT DO YOU GIVE ME A BALLPARK? AND SO, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE SIX MONTH AND IF THE CITY SAYS YES, IT WANTS TO DO THE LIBRARY, YES, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MONTHS TO GO THROUGH THE ENGINEERING AND COORDINATION WITH YOUR OWN PARKS GROUP AT THE CITY AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE DESIGN THAT.

I'M GUESSING ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW TO LAY THAT OUT.

REMEMBER, THAT'S NOT PART OF PHASE ONE, EITHER, SO WE'VE GOT SOME TIME TO DO THAT.

BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DEDICATE THE PARK FULLY UNTIL WE'VE GOT THE LEGAL BOUNDARIES TO DO THAT.

AND SO LET'S JUST I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM BECAUSE WE'RE ALL EVERYBODY.

YOU GUYS, US, EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED THAT WE'RE ENTERING OF THE RISK OF ENTERING INTO A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT GO ON THE GROUND, GET BUILT AND THE COMMERCIAL IS LEFT HIGH AND DRY.

SO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.

TALK TO US ABOUT NOT ONLY YOUR VISION, BUT WHY YOU FEEL LIKE THERE ARE ENOUGH TEETH IN THIS TO GET US COMFORTABLE WITH PROCEEDING HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED.

WELL, I THINK WE'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, BUT ON TOP OF THAT, NOT ONLY HAVE WE AGREED TO DO PHASE ONE IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE COST, WHICH WAS THREE AND A HALF $4 MILLION THERE.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE A PARK LAYOUT WHICH IS GOING TO BE IN THE ZONING GENERALLY.

HOW THIS WHOLE THING LAYS OUT WHERE WE'RE DEDICATING TO THE CITY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NINE AND $10 MILLION WORTH OF LAND THAT WENT, THAT IS ALREADY IN THE ZONING AND YOU'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE COULD BUILD IN THERE.

WE SET THE LOCATION FOR THOSE PAD SITES AND EVERYTHING BASED ON THAT.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT PARKLAND IS DEDICATED TO THE CITY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER, LET'S SAY, THE ECONOMY TURNED SOUR IN A YEAR, IT MAKES THE COMMERCIAL NON-VIABLE ONCE AGAIN, BUT THAT PARKLAND IS STILL DEDICATED TO THE CITY IN THE ZONING.

THE PARKLAND IS DEDICATED IF THE CITY, IF WE END UP IN AN AGREEMENT ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO PARTICIPATE, YES.

BUT UNLESS WE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT ON HOW THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PARTICIPATE, THIS IS NOT A GIFT OF FUNDS WITHOUT SOME KIND OF PARTNERSHIP ARRANGEMENT.

IT'S AN EIGHT TO NINE TO $10 MILLION VALUE THAT WE'RE GIVEN TO THE CITY.

SO YES, THAT IS OUR INTENT.

AND WE HAVE, I THINK, MOVED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN ALL THAT.

AND I THINK WE'VE GOT TYPICALLY AGREEMENT.

BUT WHAT I'M NOT GOING TO DO IS IN FRONT OF HERE SAY THAT THIS IS REGARDLESS A DEDICATION OF THIS PARK UNTIL WE REACH THE AGREEMENT ON EVERYTHING ELSE.

ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE INCENTIVE AGREEMENT? SURE.

SO THE INCENTIVE AGREEMENT CAN ADDRESS TO THAT TIMING OF THE DEDICATION OF THE PARK LAND AND MAKE SURE THAT ONCE WE ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT, THERE IS THERE IS A CERTAIN DATE OR A CERTAIN TRIGGER THAT WILL TRIGGER THAT DEDICATION TO THE CITY.

OK, OWEN, I'LL ASK YOU.

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YES, SIR, THE INCENTIVE AGREEMENT CAN PROVIDE ALL THE MATERIAL TERMS BETWEEN THE PARTIES OF WHAT THE PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH GROUP WILL BE.

IT CAN SET CALENDARS AND DEADLINES AND CAN HAVE BENCHMARKS ON COMPLETION TO ACTIVATE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN.

THE ZONING DECISION WOULD SIMPLY COMMIT THE LAND ONLY TO PUBLIC PARK USAGE, BUT OWNERSHIP WOULD TRANSFER ONLY IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SURE, WHATEVER THE TERMS OF THAT AGREEMENT WOULD BE BECAUSE PART OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS OUR PARTICIPATION IN THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE PARK.

SO, JOHN, SO THEN IN THAT SORT OF SITUATION THAT INCREASES YOUR ANTE SUBSTANTIALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING UP A NINE OR 10 MILLION DOLLAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE GIVING AND YOU'RE COMMITTING TO $4 MILLION WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE KIND OF SUNK IN THERE AT 14 MILLION OR SO TO KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING.

WHICH FROM MY SEAT PROVIDES EVEN GREATER FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD IS PROBABLY NOT THE APPROPRIATE WORD, BUT A GREATER COLLATERAL TO THE TAXPAYERS OF SOUTHLAKE THAT IF THE RESIDENTIAL GOES AND EVERYTHING BOTTOMS OUT, I DON'T KNOW YOUR NUMBERS AND I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE WIZARD, BUT WHEN YOU'RE STARTING AT A NEGATIVE 14 MILLION, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE PRETTY GOOD MONEY ON YOUR RESIDENTIAL TO GET TO THE BREAK EVEN.

14 MILLION IS NOT AN EASY THING TO MAKE UP QUICKLY.

YEAH, YOU MAY WELL BE ABLE TO.

OR MAYBE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT IT CERTAINLY IT CUTS YOUR IT CUTS YOUR ABILITY THERE QUITE A BIT, WHICH FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AS A POSITIVE IT'S IT PROTECTS THE GREATER TAX BASES OF THE CITY.

I THINK TOO, AND I'M ALL FOR PROTECTING THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE BEEN DOING IT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

THE I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS TRULY A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

IF WE DON'T HAVE, WE WOULD NOT JUST JUST GOING BACK, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE DEDICATED THE THAT AMOUNT OF PARKLAND HAD IT NOT BEEN A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND AN EXPECTATION THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE PARTICIPATION.

THERE ISN'T ANOTHER DEVELOPER I CAN GUARANTEE TO YOU THAT WOULD HAVE EVER COME INTO THIS PARTICULAR SITE AND SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DEDICATE EIGHT TO 10 ACRES OF LAND.

THIS WAS WITH AN EXPECTATION, AND ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT GETTING THE COMMITMENT RIGHT NOW, I'M CONFIDENT ENOUGH THAT I BELIEVE THAT IF THE CITY DECIDES TO DO A LIBRARY, IT'LL END UP HERE.

IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE SITE.

WE ALSO WOULD NEVER HAVE DONATED EIGHT TO 10 ACRES OF LAND WITHOUT A CITY FACILITY THAT IS A DESTINATION DRAW.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS GONE ON FOR FOUR YEARS WITH THAT EXPECTATION.

BUT BECAUSE WE STILL BELIEVE IN THE PROJECT IN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, WE SAID, OK, CITY, YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE A COMMITMENT ON THE LIBRARY BECAUSE TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND YOU WANT TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND REVIEW IT.

I GET THAT, BUT I ALSO WANT THE CITY TO REMEMBER THAT THIS DEVELOPER DID THE PARK DONATION OF THAT SIZE AND MAGNITUDE WITH THE IDEA AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LIBRARY AND SLASH PERFORMING ARTS OR MULTI-PURPOSE WAS GOING TO OCCUR.

IT WAS PART OF HOW WE GOT TO HERE.

WE HAVE BASICALLY TAKEN A STEP BACK AND SAID WE'RE STILL WILLING TO FULFILL ALL THIS.

WE HOPE YOU DECIDE TO MOVE THE LIBRARY HERE AND WE'RE STILL WILLING TO DO EIGHT TO NINE ACRES, WHICH IS AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF LAND TO DONATE TO THE CITY WITHOUT A GUARANTEE THAT A LIBRARY IS GOING TO OCCUR.

AND LET ME SAY TO THAT WITHOUT THE LIBRARY, I ANTICIPATE THAT THIS AREA IN PINK WILL COME BACK LATER.

IF YOU DON'T DO THE LIBRARY, WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT SPACE AROUND THE FOUNTAIN AND GET AS MUCH VISIBILITY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE SUCH A HUGE AND ATTRACTANT THAT WE MIGHT REDESIGN.

IF YOU DON'T DO THE LIBRARY AND RECONFIGURE THAT PORTION OF THE PARK SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE FRONTAGE OF THINGS ONTO THE FOUNTAIN THAT CAN THAT CAN REALLY PARTICIPATE IN THAT FOUNTAIN.

SO WE HOPE THAT THE LIBRARY OCCURS, BUT WE PUT THAT ON HOLD UNTIL YOU MAKE A DECISION AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT.

HOW IT CONFIGURES LATER.

YEAH, AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT.

I THINK IT DOES SHOW THE DEDICATION OF THE PROCESS, BUT ALSO A DEFERENCE TO THE

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DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE STILL HAVE TO DO.

WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. CHAIR? A QUICK QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

SO IF FOR SOME REASON WE COME BACK AND DECIDE NOT TO DO THE LIBRARY, YOU WILL STILL OR WILL NOT DEDICATE THE LAND, THE LAND WILL BE DEDICATED.

ALL I'M SAYING, THOUGH, IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT IF YOU DECIDE DIFFERENTLY THAT THAT MIGHT JUST BE A LITTLE BIT RECONFIGURED SO THAT EVERYTHING CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FOUNTAIN.

YEAH, SURE.

AND WE'LL COME BACK THROUGH THAT.

THE FINAL LAYOUT OF THE PARK, IN OTHER WORDS, IS GOING TO BE CONTINGENT ON THE DECISION WE MAKE.

SO, OK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR MILLION DOLLARS OF INFRASTRUCTURE COST.

IS THAT JUST FOR THE COMMERCIAL? IS THAT FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT INFRASTRUCTURE? NO, THAT'S JUST FOR THE COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN ONCE THIS IS ENTITLED, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD, THE PLANS TO SELL THE LAND? NO, NOT NECESSARILY.

NOT NECESSARILY? OR I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A-- BECAUSE WE HAD A PRIVATE EQUITY.

WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT OR HAVE AN LOI WITH ANY ENTITY ON THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND I WILL SAY I LOVE THE ENTIRETY OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND I LOVE WHAT THE PROPOSAL WAS IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN.

THE PIECE THAT CAUSES ME GREAT CONSTERNATION IS THE 79 LOTS.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD-- I DON'T KNOW THAT WE AS A COUNCIL WOULD GIVE THIS TO ANY OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY IN SOUTHLAKE.

I MEAN, THIS HIGH DENSITY PIECE, I THINK, IS THE BIGGEST PIECE THAT CONCERNS ME, AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS OF CARILLON HAVE HAD TWO DEVELOPERS WALK ON THEM.

I GUESS ONE DEVELOPER WALK ON THEM, AND ONE THAT HASN'T FULFILLED IT YET, AFTER THEY'VE DONE THE RESIDENTIAL.

AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR ME TO TRUST THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I NEED SOMETHING THAT GUARANTEES IT BASICALLY, OR AT LEAST GUARANTEES YOU DON'T BUILD SEVENTY NINE HOMES AND THEN WALK AWAY AND TELL THE FOLKS OF CARILLON, AND THE FOLKS OF SOUTHLAKE.

SORRY, IT DIDN'T WORK OUT, YOU KNOW, CODE HIT OR THIS HIT OR THAT HIT OR SOMETHING.

SO IS THERE A SPOT TO COMMIT IN WRITING THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTIAL UNTIL A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF COMMERCIAL IS COMPLETED? WE'RE PUTTING UP $14 MILLION IN PARKLAND AND THREE AND A HALF MILLION, WHICH IS, IN MY OPINION, MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO GUARANTEE OUR PERFORMANCE.

BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP YOU.

I MEAN, THAT DOES NOT CONTRACTUALLY STOP YOU FROM BUILDING SEVENTY NINE HOMES AND WALKING AWAY FROM THAT $4 MILLION.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE WOULD STOP-- WE WOULD DONATE NINE ACRES-- EIGHT TO NINE ACRES OF LAND AND SPEND THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

AND YOU THINK THERE'S ENOUGH PROFIT IN THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO WALK AWAY? THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN-- BUT YOU CAN'T PUT IT IN WRITING.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY PROBLEM IS LIKE-- I THAT'S-- I'M SORRY.

THAT'S MY SINGLE BIGGEST ISSUE IS I JUST-- I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S THE-- RIGHT.

THEY HAVE TO BE PROTECTED.

I CAN'T VOTE ON TRUST ALONE.

THAT'S MY PROBLEM.

OK, WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE PLENTY OF INCENTIVES TO ALSO ENSURE THAT AS WELL AS PARKLAND AND THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL TO MAKE THE COMMERCIAL WORK? YES, WE DO.

FROM A FINANCIAL PIECE? CONSTRUCT THE REST OF THIS PROJECT.

UNLESS YOU HAVE A LOAN THAT CAN MAKE US DO THAT.

WE HAVE TO GO GET FINANCING AND IT'S A GIGANTIC OBLIGATION.

WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN OFF ON A HUGE FINANCIAL OBLIGATION THAT WE'VE HAD FOR FOUR YEARS, AND WE'RE STILL HOLDING THAT FINANCIAL OBLIGATION, THE THREE OF US.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THE COUNCIL HAS ALSO APPROVED A PLAN-- DO YOU UNDERSTAND SIR, THAT WE'VE TAKEN IN DEVELOPING THIS FOR THE CITY? TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE-- THIS WAS APPROVED THREE YEARS AGO.

YOU'VE HAD APPROVAL, THE CITY DIDN'T STOP YOU FROM BUILDING THIS THREE YEARS AGO.

THE ENTIRE COUNTRY HAS CHANGED-- I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I TOTALLY GET THAT TOO.

RIGHT? TO VOTE NO? PLEASE DO SO.

BUT I AM NOT WILLING TO DO ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE ASKING RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE ALREADY STATED WHAT OUR COMMITMENT IS AND WHAT KIND OF FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS WE WILL MAKE, AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO OBLIGATE US.

AND IF YOU DECIDE TO VOTE, NO, VOTE NO.

MAYOR, YES, MA'AM.

CAN WE PLEASE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, WE CAN.

AS SOON AS I GET MY SHEET.

OK, AS MAYOR, I HEREBY ADVISE YOU THAT WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.071 TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.

AND WE WILL BE BACK WHEN WE'RE BACK.

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL THE REGULAR SESSION BACK IN ORDER.

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THERE'S SOME MOVEMENT IN CHAIRS THROWING ME OFF HERE, BUT THAT'S OK.

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD, OK? MR. TERRELL, IF YOU CAN COME BACK UP.

I JUST WANT TO PUT A BOW ON QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER AT THIS POINT.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS WANT TO ASK MR. TERRELL BEFORE WE START DELIBERATIONS? YES.

HI, JOHN.

IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE PHASING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PURPLE? OBVIOUSLY, ROADWAY UTILITIES GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR INVESTMENT IN THAT UP FRONT.

MY QUESTION IS ABOUT PHASE 1A, ALL OF THE YELLOW.

WHAT I KEEP HEARING IS YOU NEED TO DO THE RESIDENTIAL FIRST.

YOU NEED TO DO THE RESIDENTIAL FIRST, BUT WE HAVE SOME YELLOW DOWN BELOW.

AND SO WILL THOSE BE LITERALLY SIMULTANEOUS? THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE NEARLY THE ENGINEERING WORK, BUT THAT WILL HELP SUPPORT IN TERMS OF THE CASH RECEIVED TO HELP PAY FOR ALL THE ENGINEERING.

AND THEN THE FIRST BIG COMMERCIAL BUILDING WILL BE THE MIXED USE BUILDING.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOUR INTENTION IS TO GET THE COMMERCIAL GOING, AND THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GENERATE ALL THE REVENUE ON THIS SITE.

AND I GUESS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.

LET ME JUST ASK YOU ONE MORE TIME JUST FOR CLARITY.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, YES, YOU HAVE ZONING ON THE SITE.

IF COUNCIL SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT WE LIKE TO 2018 PLAN, DOES THAT PROJECT AS-- THAT PROJECT NO LONGER WORKS.

AS APPROVED GOES FORWARD, DOES IT GO FORWARD AT ALL? IS IT VIABLE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM? IT DOES NOT.

SO THIS IS SECOND READING.

WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON THIS.

ONCE WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD, GOOD QUESTIONS ASKED TO STAFF AND TO THE DEVELOPER.

I'D GO AROUND THE HORN AND JUST TALK TO EVERYBODY AND GET YOUR FEELING AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

SO CAN I START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMSON? I THOUGHT SINCE I WASN'T MAKING EYE CONTACT, THAT YOU MIGHT GO THE OTHER WAY.

NOPE.

SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS, AS I WAS AT FIRST READING.

NOPE, NOT HOW IT WORKS.

WITHOUT GOING TOO FAR INTO MY THOUGHTS ON THIS.

IT'S A-- THAT'S A HEAVILY RESIDENTIAL AREA OVER THERE RIGHT NOW.

AND I SHARED LAST TIME THAT ANY PART OF THIS ROLE SITTING UP HERE IS HAVING TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS WHERE YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE A GUARANTEE ON EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER APPROVED ANYTHING WHERE I HAD A 100 PERCENT GUARANTEE OF EVERY ASPECT.

I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT AND SAY, DO I HAVE A REASONABLE BELIEF THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN? I HAVE A REASONABLE BELIEF.

THERE'S RISK HERE.

BUT IF THIS IS ABLE TO BE DONE, IT'S A FABULOUS ADDITION TO OUR CITY.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WHO CAN SAY IF THIS IS DONE, THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY.

I'LL RESTATE WHAT I SAID AT THE LAST MEETING.

WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF WE END UP WITH HOMES IN AN ALREADY RESIDENTIAL AREA, I CAN LIVE WITH THAT AS A WORST CASE SCENARIO.

I DO NOT WANT THAT.

WHAT WE'VE LEARNED TONIGHT IS THAT THE THE DEVELOPER WILL NOW BE-- SUNK COSTS OF, FOUR MILLION IS THE NUMBER WE SEEM TO BE THROWING AROUND AND THERE'S NO CERTAINTY ON THAT, BUT ROUGHLY $4 MILLION AND THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE A DEDICATED EIGHT TO NINE ACRES OF PARK SPACE VALUED AT NINE TO $10 MILLION.

OUR VOTERS JUST APPROVED A BOND, GIVING US A $50 MILLION LINE OF CREDIT TO BUY OPEN SPACE TO BUY PARKS.

AND IT PASSED BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT THAT.

THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SENTIMENT IS THAT WE WANT OPEN SPACE.

SO AS I TRY TO PUT ALL THESE PIECES TOGETHER AND GO, IF THAT'S MY WORST CASE SCENARIO FOR APPROVING THIS IS THAT I HAVE A $10 MILLION PARK AND I HAVE 79 NEW HOMES AND A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THAT'S A CALCULATED DECISION I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT.

SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE.

I MEAN, I COULD SAY, BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

I'M IN SUPPORT.

COUNCIL MEMBER TORRES-LEPP.

I'M GOING TO BE REAL HONEST, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS DECISION.

A FEW WEEKS AGO, WHEN WE HEARD FIRST READING, I SUPPORTED IT WITH SOME UNKNOWNS.

THERE'S NOBODY MORE THAN ME THAT WANTS CHEF DRIVEN RESTAURANTS, GREAT ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX, WATER FEATURE THAT'S A DESTINATION.

I RAN MY CAMPAIGN ON THAT IN MAY.

I WANT THIS FOR SOUTHLAKE A LOT.

WHAT I ALSO DON'T WANT IS TO BE SITTING HERE IN A YEAR AND HAVE SEVENTY NINE HOMES AND COMMERCIAL UP FOR SALE AGAIN, IN A ROOM FULL OF CARILLON RESIDENTS THAT ARE

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POINTING FINGERS AND REALLY UPSET WITH US.

I DON'T WANT THAT.

SO I AM SUPER STRUGGLING AND I THINK THAT MY NEEDLE IS LEANING IN SUPPORT ONLY BECAUSE IF THAT HAPPENED, WE WOULD OWN NINE TO 10 ACRES OF A PARK.

AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMSON POINTED OUT, WE DEFINITELY LOVE OUR PARKS.

WE PRIORITIZE THE OPEN SPACE, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US.

AND SO NOTHING MORE THAN I WANT FOR THIS ENTIRE PROJECT TO COME TO FRUITION, INCLUDING THE LIBRARY.

I'VE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF THAT ALL ALONG.

I CONTINUE TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AS THE LOCATION FOR OUR LIBRARY, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY NOT A CLEAR CUT VOTE FOR ME.

COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

WOO.

WELL, AS A CITIZEN AND A COUNCILMAN, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THE LIBRARY NOT BEING IN HERE, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S NOT.

IT GIVES ME A GREAT DEAL OF INDIGESTION.

THE HOMES PIECE, THE SEVENTY NINE HOMES.

IT'S NOT EVEN THAT SMALL-- NOT EVEN THE ACREAGE.

IT'S JUST THAT WE WOULD HAVE HOMES BEFORE COMMERCIAL.

I HAVE A STRUGGLE WITH THAT.

A SERIOUS STRUGGLE WITH THAT.

THE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TO COUNCILMAN TORRES-LEPP'S POINT, WHERE I SEE A POINT OF CLARITY THERE.

THE HOMES ARE ALREADY ZONED.

IT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR HOME.

IT'S GOING TO BE HOMES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

THE WAY I THINK OF-- THE WAY I THOUGHT OF IT EARLIER TONIGHT HONESTLY WAS I DIDN'T WANT TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING AND HAVE THE PEOPLE IN CARILLON WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO GET A LIBRARY.

I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO A LIBRARY AND JUST HAVE 79 ADDITIONAL HOMES.

THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, RIGHT, THIS SECOND IS IF THE HOMES PUT US CLOSER TO POTENTIALLY GETTING A LIBRARY, POTENTIALLY, IT'S NOT ON THE THE PROPOSAL HERE.

I CAN GET OVER THAT INDIGESTION BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE HAVE 79 HOMES THAT HELPED TO FINANCE THE REST OF THIS PROJECT, I CAN LOOK AT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND SAY-- I CAST MY VOTE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, THE BEST THING BASED ON WHAT I KNEW AT THE TIME.

SO I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW THAT I WOULD SUPPORT IT.

I'M NOT HAPPY WITH NOT HAVING MORE COMMERCIAL AND NOT HAVING A LIBRARY.

I KNOW, I KEEP HARPING ON THAT.

I LOVE LIBRARY, BUT I COULD SUPPORT IT, GIVEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HOMES THERE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

YEAH, WELL SAID.

COUNCILMAN ROBBINS.

COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY.

SO, I PRETTY MUCH CONCUR WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID SO FAR.

I'M STILL STRUGGLING AS WELL, AND I SPOKE TO THIS ON OUR LAST MEETING ON THIS WITH NOT THE HOMES THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY MAKE SENSE IN THAT SPACE.

THEY MATCH UP WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.

BUT WITH THE RELEASE OF THE 79 LOTS VERSUS FIRST, IT WAS 12 AND THEN WE WENT FROM 12 TO SEVENTY NINE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S TOUGH BECAUSE AGAIN, I WANT THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL FOR OUR CITY, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF CARILLON.

AND I THINK FOR ME, THE PARK PIECE IS IMPORTANT AND THAT GIVES ME MORE CONFIDENCE.

BUT WHAT ALSO GIVES ME CONFIDENCE IS THE PERSON WHO'S LEADING THE CHARGE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I'M NOT SURE I WOULD HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE IF IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE.

AND I MEAN, WE ALL-- I THINK WE ALL WANT THIS.

I WANT THIS.

I WOULD LOVE TO DRIVE, I DON'T KNOW, HALF A MILE TO SOME GREAT RESTAURANTS, TO THE THE WATER TOWER-- BELL TOWER WITH ALL THE WATER.

THE WHOLE THING.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HOPE IT HAPPENS.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

YEAH, [INAUDIBLE].

COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBINS DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? IS THERE ANY CLARIFICATION TO ASK ON THAT, ALLEN, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ANYTHING? THE QUESTION THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED ME WAS IF WE WENT FORWARD AND APPROVED THE ZONING TONIGHT AS PRESENTED IN THE PD AND IN FUTURE NEGOTIATIONS.

WE DID NOT REACH A FINAL AGREEMENT ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT IN FINAL FORM.

WOULD THE DEVELOPER HAVE THE RIGHT TO PULL BUILDING PERMITS AND GO FORWARD ON THE SEVENTY NINE LOTS, NOT DEDICATE THE LAND TO THE CITY AS A PARK? WHAT WOULD BE THE CONSEQUENCES? AND I SAID THERE WOULD BE NO REIMBURSEMENT FOR WHITE CHAPEL'S CONSTRUCTION.

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THERE WOULD BE NO MONEY ADVANCE TO DEAL WITH THE PARKING GARAGE OR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE INCENTIVE PACKAGE.

WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THE ONLY WAY TO ADDRESS THAT WOULD BE IN THE PD TO MAKE THE PD'S EFFECTIVENESS CONTINGENT UPON AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BEING EXECUTED BETWEEN THE PARTIES THAT NO ONE WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO PULL BUILDING PERMITS UNTIL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAD BEEN EXECUTED.

AND I WILL ASSURE THE COUNCIL, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S LITIGATED FREQUENTLY, BUT I BELIEVE IT COULD BE SUCCESSFULLY DEFENDED IF CHALLENGED.

IT'S A LITTLE [EXPLETIVE], BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM GETTING THEM TO AGREE TO THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE PACKAGE, BUT I SUPPOSE WE COULD CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT WITH STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER.

I'M GETTING A THUMBS UP AND OK.

OK, THANK YOU, ALLEN.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD US CHEW ON THIS PROJECT.

SO I'LL SAY THIS.

YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT WE UNDERTAKE AS A CITY THAT IS WITHOUT RISK.

I THINK CARILLON IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD HAVE GUARANTEES ON THESE PROJECTS, THEN HINES WOULD HAVE DEVELOPED THIS BACK IN 2008 AND 2009, WHERE MR. TERRELL AND HIS COHORT WOULD HAVE DEVELOPED THIS IN 2018 AND 2019.

THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES.

THE RISK, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, IS THAT ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE DESPITE OUR BEST EFFORTS, DESPITE OUR BEST NEGOTIATION, THAT WE END UP WITH SEVENTY NINE $1 TO $2 MILLION HOMES, $10 MILLION PARK AND SOME INFRASTRUCTURE ON A COMMERCIAL SITE THAT STAYS VACANT FOR ANOTHER THREE, FOUR, FIVE 14 YEARS NOW, THE RISK IS MITIGATED BY A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT THINGS, ALL OF WHICH WE'VE WE'VE DISCUSSED EXTENSIVELY TONIGHT.

IT'S MITIGATED BY THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO INCENTIVES FOR THIS DEVELOPER UNTIL THE COMMERCIAL PIECE COMES ONLINE AND STARTS GENERATING REVENUE.

THERE ARE NO UPFRONT PAYMENTS FROM THE CITY.

IT'S MITIGATED BY THE FACT THAT WE ARE REQUIRING THE DEVELOPER AND THE DEVELOPER IS AGREEING TO WHOLEHEARTEDLY COMMITTING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE PURSUANT TO THE COMMERCIAL VISION ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND OUR RISK IS MITIGATED BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE EIGHT TO NINE ACRES OF PRIME PARKLAND, SOME OF THE MOST VALUABLE LAND IN SOUTHLAKE THAT'S BEING DEDICATED TO THE CITY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THIS COMMERCIAL EVER GOES FORWARD.

GIVEN THAT, I THINK THIS PROJECT IS SPECIAL ENOUGH TO ACCEPT THAT RISK, I THINK THIS PROJECT IS SPECIAL ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A VIEW AND A HOPE THAT WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS EXCITED ABOUT THE GRAND OPENING OF SOME COOL, CHEF DRIVEN RESTAURANT OR THE CULINARY INSTITUTE OR AN AMAZING LIBRARY.

THAT'S THAT'S THE HOPE AND WHAT I'VE SEEN HERE TONIGHT, WHAT I'VE SEEN OUT OF THESE DEVELOPERS AND THE TOUGH NEGOTIATION THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH TO GET TO THIS POINT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH COMFORT TO ME THAT THE CITY'S INTEREST ARE PROTECTED HERE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE VOTING YES.

MAYOR, CAN I JUST ADD ONE THING? YES, SIR.

TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE EXPENSE.

AGAIN, I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE EXPERT, BUT I WOULD I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THIS PROJECT HAS TAKEN STEPS ALONG THE WAY.

UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF THE STEPS HAVE BEEN BAD STEPS.

THEY FAILED AND PEOPLE COULDN'T LIVE UP TO THEIR ECONOMIC END THE BARGAIN AND ALL THAT.

BUT IF WE WERE TO REACH THE POINT WHERE WE HAD SEVENTY NINE HOMES, WE HAD INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE HAD A PARK.

BUT YET THE FINANCIALS JUST DIDN'T WORK AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.

PERHAPS THAT HAS TO SIT LIKE IT WOULD BE FOR A PERIOD, BUT I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THERE WILL BE ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT WOULD COME FORWARD AT SOME POINT FOR A DISCOUNT, A HEAVY DISCOUNT ON THE DOLLAR OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE EXPENSE AND SAY I'M NOW IN A POSITION TO PICK THIS UP.

I WISH THE BEST OF LUCK TO MR. TERRELL AND HIS TEAM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GROUND, SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD COME BACK AND WANT TO PICK THAT UP TO.

I JUST SAY THAT AS-- THAT'S NOT OUR GOAL, NOT WHAT WE WANT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'D BE SITTING HERE 50 YEARS FROM NOW WITH SEVENTY NINE HOMES AND A PARK AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CAROLLIN COMMERCIAL, AND NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING WITH IT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

AND WHEN WE'RE EVALUATING RISK, WE'RE ALWAYS COMPARING TWO WORST CASES, RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND TO ME, THE WORST CASE OF THIS SITE SITTING VACANT FOR ANOTHER 14 YEARS, RIGHT? AND US LOOKING BACK, HAVING MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET SUCH AN IMPORTANT AND THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IS FAR GREATER THAN THE RISK OF MOVING FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A A MOTION.

NO, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

I STILL AM-- WE CAN GUARANTEE THAT NO HOME WILL BE BUILT WITHOUT THE

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DEDICATION OF THAT PARK TO THE CITY, WITHOUT THE DEEDING OF THAT PARK TO THE CITY.

WE COULD PUT A PROVISION IN THE PD ZONING STATING THAT NO BUILDING PERMITS WILL BE ISSUED FOR ANY LOT IN THE DEVELOPMENT, WE CAN MAKE IT ALL LOTS, UNLESS AND UNTIL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BEING NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE PARTIES IS EXECUTED.

AND JOHN, YOU'RE OK WITH THAT.

IN TERMS OF US AGREEING TO THAT DOCUMENT WITH THAT AGREEMENT HAPPENING SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, BUT LOCKED VERSUS THE ACTUAL DEDICATION OF THE PARK BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE.

I MEAN, AT LEAST SIX MONTHS FOR THE CITY TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S GOING TO DO A LIBRARY, WE WON'T ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DO A LEGAL DESCRIPTION, BUT WE COULD ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT THAT SOLIDIFIES IT.

BINDS YOU TO IT.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

WE JUST CAN'T DO IT BASED ON THE ACTUAL DEDICATION BECAUSE THAT WON'T OCCUR FOR SOME TIME.

BUT YOU'LL COMMIT THAT YOU WILL-- THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A HOUSE BUILT UNTIL THIS PARK IS DEDICATED TO THE CITY AND IT'S IN THE CITY UNTIL WE REACH AGREEMENT.

THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE AND I THINK YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING THE LEGAL TERMS. NO-- IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A DEDICATION BY THE TIME WE START THIS, WE WILL HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO DEDICATE, BUT THE DEDICATION WILL NOT OCCUR.

WE WON'T HAVE A LEGAL DESCRIPTION TO ACTUALLY PROCEED WITH A DEDICATION FOR POTENTIALLY NINE MONTHS.

BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A HOUSE IN THE NEXT NINE MONTHS, EITHER.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO.

IT WILL NOT BE ON THE DEDICATION.

IT WILL BE REACHING AN AGREEMENT UNDER THE DOCUMENT THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO DEDICATE.

AT WHICH POINT YOU'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO-- THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN THAT, RIGHT? INAUDIBLE].

IS THERE AN EXIT CLAUSE TO THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE AGREEMENT ONCE AGREED UPON? IT WOULD REQUIRE MUTUAL CONSENT.

OK, SO NO? NO.

SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, IT WILL BE A LEGALLY BINDING DOCUMENT THAT HE AGREES TO DEDICATE THE PARK.

BUT IT JUST WON'T BE DEDICATED YET.

THE ISSUE IS WE WILL HAVE A CONTRACT, IF YOU WILL, AN EXECUTED CONTRACT BINDING THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER TO PERFORM SPECIFIC TASKS TO RECEIVE SPECIFIC BENEFITS.

IT WILL BE BINDING ON BOTH PARTIES WITHIN THE AGREEMENT, OR THE DOCUMENT WILL BE A PROTOCOL AND A TIMELINE UNDER WHICH THE ACTUAL TRANSFER OF THE DEED TO THE PARK WILL OCCUR.

AND UNDER THE CONVERSATION WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVING, THE DEVELOPER WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PULL A BUILDING PERMIT FOR ANY STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONTRACT, IF YOU WILL, HAS BEEN EXECUTED BETWEEN THE PARTIES.

AND AS HE POINTS OUT, ONCE THE CONTRACT IS IN PLACE, HE IS COMMITTED TO DELIVER THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY.

BUT IT MAY BE MONTHS BEFORE WE HAVE AN ACTUAL LEGAL DESCRIPTION TO PUT IN A DEED, AND THEY MAY BE PULLING PERMITS ON OTHER ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT.

WHILE THAT IS OCCURRING.

I THINK I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE KEY POINT HERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DEDICATE LAND BASED ON A CONCEPT.

HE HAS TO HAVE A LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HE'S ACTUALLY DEDICATING TO HIS POINT THAT IS YET TO COME.

THAT'S BASED ON OUR REQUEST TO TAKE SOME TIME WITH THE LIBRARY.

SO THAT ALL WILL HAPPEN.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF-- I FEEL GOOD, IF HE'S CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED, WE HAVE MITIGATED WHATEVER RISK WE CAN.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, COUNCIL ANY OTHER DELIBERATIONS, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.

THANK YOU, ALLEN.

I'M JUST LOOKING OVER MY NOTES.

HOW LONG IS YOUR MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS? IT'S GOING TO CHALLENGE THE OIL AND GAS MOTION FROM ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO.

SO WASN'T THAT A 20 MINUTE MOTION? FEEL FREE TO GET COMFORTABLE? YEAH.

LET'S SEE.

OK, I THINK I'M GOOD, KEN.

YOU READY? OK.

MAYOR COUNCIL, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 6A ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-464E ZA20-0029 SECOND READING, ZONING, CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CAROLLIN PARK ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACTS 1, 1D, 1E, 1F, 1G, 3A, 3A01, 3A03, 3A04, 3A04A, 3A05, AND 3A01B.

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LARKIN H.

CHIVERS SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 300 CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TARRANT COUNTY, TEXAS, AND LOCATED AT 1775.

1781 AND 1801 NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD 1840 RIVIERA LANE 201 EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD 1700 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE, WHICH IS ADDRESSED AS 1900 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE BY THE TARRANT APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND 100 THROUGH 300 EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114.

GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD, WEST OF REVERE LANE AND NORTH OF EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 30TH.

TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER SIX DATED NOVEMBER 30TH TWENTY TWENTY ONE, WE'RE APPROVING THE FOLLOWING VARIANCE FOR THE DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER 634.

THE MINIMUM STACKING DEPTH FROM STATE HIGHWAY 114 AND NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD IS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET, APPROVING A VARIANCE WHICH PERMITS APPROXIMATELY 40 FEET IN ONE HUNDRED AND TEN FEET OF STACKING DEPTH, RESPECTIVELY.

IN TERMS OF CONCEPT PLAN AND ZONING BOOKLET, LET'S SEE.

WE'RE APPROVING OPTION B, CORRECT, KEN.

OPTION B OF THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH YOU PRESENTED THIS EVENING, INDICATES THE FOLLOWING ALLOWING UP TO 79 TYPE A VILLA LOTS AND 50 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND NOTING THAT THE TYPE A VILLAS WILL ADHERE TO ALL RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS, AS OUTLINED IN THE 2008 CAROLLIN ZONING APPROVAL, WHICH WAS ZA480-564.

ALSO NOTING THAT THE RESIDENTIAL LOFTS WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 2300 SQUARE FEET AND ARE LIMITED TO BUILDING B.

AS SHOWN ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IDENTIFIED AS THE ORANGE BUILDING ON THE COLORED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

ALSO NOTING THAT THE TYPE A VILLAS AND RESIDENTIAL LOFTS MUST BE CONSTRUCTED TO MEET ALL FIRE REGULATIONS, INCLUDING THE INSTALLATION OF FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS IF REQUIRED.

ALSO, DESIGNATING AN AREA LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF CAROLLIN PARK PLAZA DISTRICT SHADED IN PINK ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A POSSIBLE LOCATION OF THE CITY LIBRARY.

IF IT IS DETERMINED BY THE CITY THAT SUCH A FACILITY SHOULD BE LOCATED WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

ALSO NOTING THAT THIS ALTERNATE AREA PINK SHADED AREA CAN INCLUDE, IN ADDITION TO A PUBLIC LIBRARY, THE FOLLOWING USES RETAIL, RESTAURANT, OFFICE, HOTEL, CHAPEL, PERFORMING ARTS AND MULTIPLE PURPOSE USES, ALLOWING A HOTEL AS A PERMITTED USE AND THE GENERAL AREA WHERE BUILDINGS, H, I AND K ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ALLOWING SUB GRADE OR AT GRADE PARKING BENEATH THE PARK AREA IF REQUIRED, NOTING THAT ALL NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS REQUIRE SITE PLAN APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL FOLLOWING A P AND Z COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, AND THAT THE PROPOSED SITE PLANS WILL BE EVALUATED PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING APPROVAL IN TERMS OF USE, ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, PARKING AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING DOCUMENT.

ALSO NOTING THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS WILL ALSO BE EVALUATED AT THE SITE PLAN PHASE, ALSO ACCEPTING ALL PROPOSED CHANGES NOTED IN THE ZONING BOOKLET AND SUMMARIZED BY THE APPLICANT AS ATTACHMENT E OF THE STAFF REPORT, AND ALSO NOTING THAT THE USE TABLE WILL INCLUDE BEER PUBS, AND CRAFT BREWERIES AS DEFINED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

480 AS PERMITTED USES.

IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION PHASING PLAN, WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD AND CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC .

APPROVING THE PHASING PLAN PRESENTED AND NOTING THAT THE DEVELOPER-- WE'RE APPROVING THE PHASING PLAN PRESENTED AND NOTING THE DEVELOPER MUST CONSTRUCT THE PHASE ONE SIDE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS ROADWAYS AND UTILITIES, AS PURPLE ON THE PHASING PLAN AND HAVE THE PHASE ONE INFRASTRUCTURE INSPECTED AND APPROVED PRIOR TO THE RELEASE BY THE CITY OF THE 79 VILLA TYPE A HOMES, OR TYPE A LOTS FOR HOME CONSTRUCTION.

ALSO THAT A SCREEN WALL WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN A SIMILAR MANNER TO EXAMPLE PHOTOS IN THE ZONING BOOKLET, NOTING THAT NO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WILL BE ISSUED FOR ANY COMMERCIAL OFFICE OR MIXED USE, I.E.

NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS UNTIL THE PHASE 1A PARK CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED PER THE EXECUTED DEVELOPERS OR 380 AGREEMENT AND HAS BEEN INSPECTED AND IS ACCEPTED BY THE CITY.

THE PARK DEDICATION WILL BE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT TO NINE ACRES AS REPRESENTED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UNLESS DETERMINED OTHERWISE BY A CITY COUNCIL ACTION AS PART OF THE APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPER'S 380 AGREEMENT OR FINAL LOCATION OF THE LIBRARY, MULTI-USE PERFORMANCE ARTS BUILDING AT A MINIMUM MINIMUM, THE PARK COMPONENT WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ELEMENTS UNLESS DETERMINED OTHERWISE IN THE DEVELOPER'S.

OR THE 380 AGREEMENT.

AN OPERATING AND MAINTAINED FOUNTAIN AS REPRESENTED IN THE ZONING BOOKLET TWO CAROLLIN BELL TOWERS, THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY TOWER SIMILAR TO THE SCALE AND SIZE AS REPRESENTED IN THE ZONING BOOKLET.

PLAZA [INAUDIBLE] AREA SIMILAR IN SIZE AND CHARACTER AS REPRESENTED IN THE ZONING BOOKLET, PATHWAYS AND SIDEWALKS AS REPRESENTED IN THE ZONING BOOKLET.

IF THE CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT THE PARK DEDICATION IS LESS THAN WHAT IS REPRESENTED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, APPROXIMATELY EIGHT TO NINE ACRES, THE AREA OF LAND NOT

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DEDICATED WILL BECOME PRIVATE SPACE MAINTAINED BY THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY OR OTHER PRIVATE ENTITY.

THE WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, WIDENING FROM STATE HIGHWAY 114 TO EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD, WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR ANY COMMERCIAL OFFICE MIXED USE I.E.

NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.

THIS SECTION OF WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD SHALL BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S MOBILITY PLAN INCLUDE MEDIAN SIDEWALKS AND ANY REQUIRED STREET LIGHTS.

ALL CONSTRUCTION RELATED TRAFFIC FOR THE NON RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL ENTER THE SITE FROM STATE HIGHWAY 114 OR WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD.

IN TERMS OF PARK DEDICATION AND FOUNTAIN PERFORMANCE, AND I'LL GO INTO SOME MORE DETAIL AT THE END OF THIS, BUT FINAL PARK DEDICATION, MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES AND PERFORMANCE THRESHOLDS WILL BE DETERMINED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT AND OR 380 AGREEMENT.

AND FINALLY, THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT HAVE AGREED ON THE DATE OF JUNE 30 OF TWENTY TWENTY TWO FOR THE CITY TO TAKE TIME TO ASSESS FUTURE LIBRARY LOCATIONS AND DETERMINE IF THE CAROLLIN LOCATION IS THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR A FUTURE LIBRARY.

STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER WITH ACCEPTABLE CRITERIA FOR A POTENTIAL LIBRARY TO BE CONSIDERED FOR CAROLLIN DURING THE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 30, 2022, AND THEN OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE.

WE'RE NOTING THAT DEDICATION OF THE PARKLAND IS AT A TIME TO BE DETERMINED UPON AGREEMENT OF AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE AGREEMENT.

ALSO NOTING THAT NO BUILDING PERMITS FOR ANY LOTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT, EITHER COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, WILL BE ISSUED UNTIL A SUCCESSFULLY EXECUTED ECONOMIC INCENTIVE AGREEMENT.

IS THERE ANYTHING MISSING KEN? ALLEN? FEEL PRETTY GOOD? JOHN? I MEAN, KEN, THE ATTORNEY AND THE DEVELOPER ALL GETTING HEAD NODS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THE MOTIONS GOOD.

OK, GREAT JOB.

WELL DONE.

GOOD MOTION.

WE HAVE A VERY GOOD MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND.

OH, SORRY.

YOU WANT? YEAH, YOU CAN ASK ALLEN.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT PIECE.

IF THERE IS NO EDC DOES THE ZONING, STAY AS IT IS, OR DOES IT GO TO THIS ZONING JUST WITHOUT THE EDC PLAN? THIS ZONING WILL REMAIN IN PLACE, BUT NO ONE WHO ACQUIRES THE PROPERTY WILL BE ABLE TO SECURE ANY TYPE OF BUILDING PERMIT UNTIL THEY HAVE EXECUTED AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY, AND THAT WILL INCLUDE THE DEDICATION OF THE PARKLAND TO THE CITY.

YEAH, THAT WAS THE PART.

AGAIN, IT WAS NO BUILDING PERMITS FOR ANY LOTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

EITHER COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL WILL BE ISSUED UNTIL A SUCCESSFULLY EXECUTED ECONOMIC INCENTIVE AGREEMENT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS TRANSFERABLE IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN HERE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AND THAT ITEM PASSES SIX TO ZERO.

YEAH, MR. TERRELL, DO YOU? BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

WELL, FIRST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE VOTE.

I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT EVEN AFTER THIS VOTE, I HOPE THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, LIKE MYSELF, THIS IS A LEGACY PROJECT.

THIS DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS AS EXCITED AS IT HAS EVER BEEN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND MAKE IT A REALITY.

AND THAT IS, THE RESIDENTIAL IS SIMPLY A STEPPING STONE TO MAKE THE BIG LEGACY PROJECT OCCUR.

I AM VERY HOPEFUL AND WOULD LOVE TO BE ON WHATEVER ADVISORY GROUP YOU HAVE FOR THE LIBRARY AND WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY IN TERMS OF SOME ADVANCED DRAWINGS TO SHOW TO THE PUBLIC AS YOU GO THROUGH AND TRY TO GET PUBLIC APPROVAL AND FEEDBACK.

WE WOULD LOVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AS A DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS SOME CONTENTIOUS TIMES.

NOTHING THIS GREAT EVER HAPPENS EASILY.

SO WE ARE DEDICATED.

WE CONTINUE TO BE DEDICATED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

I WANT TO THANK THE, NOT JUST CAROLLIN, BUT ALL OF THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE COME FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS IN SUPPORT OF THIS, MY DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS AND THE ACADEMY.

[LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] BUT TRULY, THIS IS A MOMENT IN THIS CITY'S HISTORY THAT I

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HOPE EACH ONE OF YOU, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR CONCERNS WERE, WILL LOOK BACK IN A VERY BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME AND SAY, I AM SO GLAD I VOTED ON THIS.

THIS IS THE MOST WONDERFUL DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE EVER.

AND SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

WE BELIEVE IN YOU GUYS.

WE BELIEVE IN CAROLLIN PARK, AND THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH IT.

OK, YOU CAN CLAP FOR THAT ONE.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S FINE.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU GUYS.

WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM 6B, WHICH IS ZA 20--, WHICH IS ZA21-0049 SITE PLAN FOR

[6.B. ZA21-0049, Site Plan for HTeaO on property described as Lot 5R1R1, Parker's Corner, an addition to the City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 190 Davis Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #11. PUBLIC HEARING]

HTEAO.

MAYOR-- DIRECTOR BAKER.

MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF SITE PLAN FOR PROPOSED TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SQUARE FOOT RETAIL TEA STORE BUILDING, WITH THE DRIVE THRU SERVICE LOCATED ON APPROXIMATELY ONE POINT THIRTY FIVE ACRES ON THE WEST SIDE OF DAVIS BOULEVARD, JUST SOUTH OF THE EXISTING SONIC RESTAURANT.

THE PROPOSED ACCESS WILL BE THROUGH AN EXISTING SHARED DRIVE WITH THE SONIC THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING CONSTRUCTED.

THIS SCENARIO SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY CLOSE UP VIEW.

BACK IN 2000, THE SONIC PROPERTY IN THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED IN A FEW SLIDES.

I'LL SHOW YOU THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT A 4000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDING WITH A DRIVE THRU WITH A SHARED DRIVE WAS SHOWN ON THAT CONCEPT PLAN.

AS SUCH AS IT'S JUST A SITE PLAN THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED THIS EVENING.

THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING BACK TO THE NORTH WEST FROM DAVIS BOULEVARD ON THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING.

ANOTHER STREET VIEW LOOKING BACK TO THE SOUTH, THE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS A RETAIL COMMERCIAL.

THE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO THE SOUTH IS MIXED USE, BUT THE ZONING IS A RESIDENTIAL ESTATE FIVE AND THAT IS TRIGGERING A NUMBER OF VARIANCES RELATED TO THE BUFFER YARD IN TERMS OF SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING.

THESE ARE SOME OLDER RANCH STYLE HOUSES, BUT THE APPLICANT, AND WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE BEING MIXED USE, THE BELIEF IS AT SOME POINT THIS WILL BE DEVELOPED IN A NONRESIDENTIAL MANNER.

THIS IS THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2000.

THIS SHOWS THE 4000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDING WITH THE DRIVE THRU, AND THE SHARED DRIVE IS CURRENTLY CONFIGURED.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEING PRESENTED THIS EVENING.

THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THAT 2000+ BUILDING, DRIVE THRU, 33 PARKING SPACES.

FIFTY THREE PERCENT OPEN SPACE WHERE THIS DARK LINE IS INDICATED ON THE PLAN.

EVERYTHING TO THE WEST OF THAT IS IN FLOOD PLAIN.

AS THIS WENT THROUGH THE STAFF REVIEW, THERE WAS A NUMBER OF COMMENTS WITH THE APPLICANT REGARDING THE ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THE SITE.

AS MENTIONED, THE ZONING HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS, BUT IT WAS DESIGNED WITH THAT SINGLE DRIVE ACCESS.

BUT STAFF HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THE-- BASED ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

AND SO WE ASKED THE APPLICANT DESIGN SOME INTERNAL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS WHICH THEY HAVE DONE, WHICH INCLUDE THE STOP BARS ON THE NORTH SIDE AS WELL AS THE SOUTH SIDE.

THE SIGNAGE, A PAVEMENT MARKINGS THAT DO NOT BLOCK THE INTERSECTION WIDE CROSSWALK STRIPING ALONG DAVIS.

ALSO A DEDICATED LANE INTO THE SITE.

A DEDICATED LEFT TURN OUT OF THE SITE ON NORTHBOUND DAVIS AND A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE ON SOUTHBOUND DAVIS.

THE SITE IS PREDICTED TO GENERATE 172 TRIPS DURING ITS PEAK HOURS, WHICH IS THREE TO FOUR P.M.

OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT HAS LOOKED AT THE DATA.

THE DATA WAS BASED ON TRANSACTION DATA FROM OTHER STORES, WHICH THE CONSULTANT BELIEVED WAS VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOCUSED ON THREE P.M.

TO FIVE P.M.

PEAK PERIOD AND BASED ON THE SUBMISSION TO OUR CONSULTANT, THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OTHER THAN WHAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.

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THIS IS JUST A SITE PLAN DATA SUMMARY, WHICH I CAN GO OVER IF NEEDED.

THIS IS SOME TYPICAL STORES IN OTHER AREAS OF TEXAS.

ONE OF THE VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED IS A VARIANCE TO THE [INAUDIBLE] REQUIREMENT OR OVERLAY ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT ANY BUILDING UNDER SIX THOUSAND SQUARE FEET HAVE A PITCHED ROOF.

THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED DUE TO THE PARAPET AND THE ARTICULATION THAT ALL THE COMPRESSOR UNITS WILL BE SCREENED FROM THE-- RIGHT AWAY AND ADJACENT PROPERTY, BUT A VARIANCE IS NEEDED FOR THAT.

THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS.

THE PROPOSED NORTH AND SOUTH ELEVATIONS, THE MATERIALS BRICK THAT WILL BE PAINTED A WHITE COLOR AND SOME COMPOSITE WOOD PLANK METAL AWNINGS OVER THE DOORS AND WINDOWS.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE SKETCHED OUT IN THE DASH, THE LOCATION OF THE ROOFTOP UNITS.

THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION AND THE EAST ELEVATION.

AGAIN, SAME MATERIALS, AS NOTED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

THIS IS A MATERIAL SAMPLE BOARD, WHICH DETAILS THE COLORS THAT THE BUILDING WILL UTILIZE, AS WELL AS THE MATERIALS PROPOSED TO BE UTILIZED.

THERE WILL BE NO SIGNAGE APPROVED WITH THIS ACTION.

IF APPROVED, THAT WILL HAVE TO COME UNDER A SEPARATE ACTION, MOST LIKELY DUE TO THE LOGO SIZE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

ROOF SECTION.

THIS IS THE DUMPSTER ELEVATION.

IT'LL METAL GATES WITH CEDAR WOOD OVERLAY.

FLOOR PLAN.

THESE ARE THE VARIANCES REGARDS TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, ONE OF THE VARIANCE IS TO RELOCATE THE WEST BUFFER YARD FROM THE PROPERTY LINE BACK TO THE EAST, WHICH MAKES SENSE TO THE FLOODPLAIN AND THE HEAVY TREE COVER.

THIS VEGETATION WILL BE MORE VISIBLE TO THE PUBLIC AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THE SITE.

AS MENTIONED EARLIER ON THE LAND USE PLAN, THIS IS DESIGNEES MIXED USE.

THE-- REQUIRES THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

THEY ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE NOT TO ALLOW A FENCE.

THEY DO SHOW A NUMBER OF RED BUDS BEING PLANTED.

THERE ARE SOME EXISTING TREES THAT THEY WILL BE TAKING CREDITS FOR PLUS THE TREES ALONG THE BOUNDARY BACK TO THE WEST.

PLAN'S SCHEDULE.

THIS IS THE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN, MEETS THE ORDINANCE.

THEY ALSO ARE ASKING A VARIANCE TO THE PATHWAYS PLAN.

WE DO HAVE A TRAIL ALONG THE CREEK AREA THAT RUNS FROM 1709 DOWN TO UNION CHURCH ROAD.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING LIKE WE DID FOR THE WILL HOUSE.

THAT WAS THE CARRIE WILKINSON DEVELOPMENT THAT A VARIANCE COULD BE GRANTED, BUT WE REQUESTED THAT A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS EASEMENT BE PROVIDED.

SO AT SUCH TIME THAT THE LARGER PROPERTIES ARE TAKEN DOWN, PARTICULARLY THE SOUTH, THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT TRAIL CONNECTION THROUGH THIS AREA ONCE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.

THIS IS A LIST OF THE VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED AND THEN WE DID NOT RECEIVE-- WE DID RECEIVE ONE PROPERTY OWNER IN FAVOR.

NONE OPPOSED PNZ RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, SEVEN ZERO.

APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCES AND THEN ADDRESSING THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.

YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED ON THE VARIOUS SLIDE THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING SCREENING THAT WITH SOME TYPE OF ROOF MOUNTED EQUIPMENT.

BUT ON A FURTHER LOOK OF [INAUDIBLE] THE PARAPETS SUCH DETERMINED THAT THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN THE NORMAL ARTICULATION OF THE BUILDING.

BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR BAKER.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? KEN, COULD YOU JUST GO BACK REAL QUICK TO THE RENDERING THAT SHOWED THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT? YES.

JUST WANT TO LOOK ONE MORE THING.

DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE SKETCH THEN? I THINK THAT WAS IT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL EVENING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND NOT JUST FOR THE RECORD AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO DIRECTOR BAKER'S COMMENTS.

ALL GOOD? YEP.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE?

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MY NAME IS RYAN SAFFORD.

I'M WITH BOWMAN CONSULTING ADDRESSES.

5601 DEMOCRACY DRIVE, PLANO, TEXAS.

I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT AND JOINED TONIGHT BY THE DEVELOPER OF HTEAO, AS WELL AS OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF.

I THINK THE STAFF REPORT AND PRESENTATION COVERED A LOT OF-- SUMMARIZED OUR PROPOSED REQUESTS, SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

I'D LOVE TO HEAR JUST REALLY BRIEFLY ABOUT HTEAO.

JUST IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT ARE YOU? SURE.

TODD BOCKENFELD, 1245 LAKEWAY DRIVE SOUTHLAKE TEXAS.

HTEAO IS KIND OF A STARBUCKS CONCEPT FOR ICE TEA.

YEAH, [INAUDIBLE] WITH AN EMPHASIS-- ON MORE DETAILS OR WHAT'S IT EMPHASIS ON TEA OR IS IT COFFEE? YEAH, NO.

IT'S TEA.

NOW WE WILL OFFER COFFEE AS WELL, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY STARTED OUT IN WEST TEXAS.

DEFINITELY AN EMPHASIS ON TEA.

TWENTY FIVE DIFFERENT FLAVORS GETTING READY TO OPEN ONE IN GRAPEVINE.

SO COME ON OVER AND CHECK OUT.

WHEN'S THE GRAND OPENING OF THAT ONE? RIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE A GRAND OPENING DATE YET, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE JANUARY 7TH, JANUARY.

SO THAT GALLON OF SWEET TEA? I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER THAN CHICK-FIL-A AND CHICKEN EXPRESS BETTER.

YEAH, NO.

HEY, BLUEBERRY POMEGRANATE.

IT WAS LIKE, FANCY TEA.

LIKE, THERE'S ALL THESE CRAZY FLAVORS AND THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.

I'M GOING TO VOUCH FOR IT.

WELL, YOU BROUGHT SOME LAST TIME, RIGHT? YOU BROUGHT SOME LAST TIME.

BLUEBERRY, POMEGRANATE.

I'M INTERESTED.

YEAH, WE DID.

WE DID.

OR MAYBE THAT WAS [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER.

I REMEMBER IT TOOK SOME HOME, ACTUALLY.

SO IT WAS GOOD.

I'VE NEVER I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THIS.

HOW MANY FRANCHISES ARE IN THE STATE OR IS IT ONLY IN THE STATE? YEAH, IT'S NO.

IT IS IN OTHER STATES AS WELL.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MANY ARE JUST IN TEXAS.

I THINK WE'RE UP TO ABOUT 40 ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 35-- 30 TO 35 OF THOSE ARE IN TEXAS.

SO I HAVE THE CLOSEST ONE HERE IS DOWN IN BEDFORD, RIGHT ON HARWOOD IN CENTRAL.

I KNOW SOUTHLAKE IS THE BEST CITY IN THE UNIVERSE, BUT WHAT TOLD YOU TO-- [INAUDIBLE] WHAT TOLD YOU TO BRING THE SOUTHLAKE? YOU KNOW, I THINK HTEAO IS VERY IT'S A COMMUNITY FOCUSED STORE.

AND I THINK IT FITS WELL WITH KIND OF THE SOUTHLAKE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WHERE WE'VE SEEN IT BE SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER AREAS, IT'S WHERE THERE IS AN EMPHASIS ON A COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A SMASH HIT IN SOUTHLAKE.

I REALLY DO.

AND DO YOU SERVE LIKE FOOD OR PRE-PREPARED SANDWICHES? PREPACKAGED FOOD LIKE CLIF BARS, SKINNY POP POPCORN, POP CHIPS, BEEF JERKY, THAT KIND OF STUFF? GREAT.

VERY GOOD.

WELL, WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU.

AWESOME.

WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.

AND I KNOW WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT FORUM FOR [INAUDIBLE] WHO WISHES TO NOT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO EXPRESS HER SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

SO ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OK, SEEING NONE.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COUNSEL THAT THERE'S NO DELIBERATION.

WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.

WELL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6B, WHICH IS OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ZA21-0049, WHICH IS A SITE PLAN FOR HTEAO ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 5R1R1 PARKER'S CORNER AT 190 DAVIS BOULEVARD IN SOUTHLAKE.

CURRENT ZONING IS SP2 GENERALIZED SITE PLAN DISTRICT.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 30TH TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER FIVE DATED NOVEMBER 29 2021, NOTING SOME OF THE VARIANCES HERE.

APPROVING A VARIANCE TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 480 SECTION 43.99.C.1B, WHICH REQUIRES STRUCTURES HAVING A SIX THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT OR LESS FOOTPRINT TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH A PITCHED ROOF.

ALSO APPROVING A VARIANCE TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 480 SECTION 39.6, WHICH REQUIRES AN EIGHT FOOT SCREENING OPAQUE FENCE, MEANING THE MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS IN SECTION 39.2B WITH A TYPE F1 BUFFER YARD.

THIS VARIANCE ALLOWS THAT NO FENCE BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY, APPROVING A VARIANCE TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 480 SECTION 42, WHICH REQUIRES A TYPE F ONE BUFFER YARD ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE AND A FIVE FOOT TYPE A BUFFER YARD ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE.

A VARIANCE IS REQUESTED TO ALLOW DEFICIENCY IN THE REQUIRED CANOPY AND ACCENT TREES FOR THE 10 FOOT TYPE F ONE BUFFER YARD AND TO ALLOW THE FIVE FOOT TYPE A WEST BUFFER YARD IN THE LOCATION SHOWN ON THE PLAN.

ALSO APPROVING VARIANCES TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 480 SECTION 33.19 AND ORDINANCE NUMBER

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483 SECTION 5.06.B.3.

WHICH REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION OF TRAILS AS SHOWN IN THE CITY'S MASTER PATHWAYS PLAN.

AN EIGHT FOOT OR GREATER MULTI-USE TRAIL IS SHOWN ACROSS THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE CREEK AREA.

THE VARIANCES ARE APPROVED TO ALLOW NO TRAIL TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY, HOWEVER, NOTING THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING A 10 FOOT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS EASEMENT ON THE WEST PROPERTY LINE.

ALSO, ALL TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES WILL BE PROVIDED PER THE TRAFFIC EXHIBIT.

ALRIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND.

AND THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.

SEVEN ZERO.

CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU OPEN.

WELCOME TO SOUTHLAKE.

SEND US AN INVITE TO YOUR GRAND OPENING IN GRAPEVINE.

GOOD LUCK, GUYS.

WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL ITEM 6C WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-643 ZA21-0084

[6.C. Ordinance No. 480-643E, (ZA21-0084), 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Site Plan for West Elm on property described as Lot 1, Block 1, Park Village, an addition to the City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 1035 E. Southlake Blvd. (store address is 1001 E. Southlake Blvd.), Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. Proposed Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #9. PUBLIC HEARING]

SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR WEST ELM.

AND DID WE GET A PRESENTATION ON THIS ALREADY? YES, MAYOR, WE HAD A PRESENTATION FIRST READ AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES.

OKAY.

SO YOU JUST WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING WE CAN.

ANYBODY NEED ANOTHER PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE? I KNOW, MY WIFE IS PROBABLY STILL UP WATCHING THIS IS GOING TO BE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE.

IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

NOW IT'S TIME TO DO IT.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND IF THERE'S NO DELIBERATION, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE WE APPROVE.

ITEM NUMBER 6C OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-643E WHICH IS ZA21-0084 THE SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR WEST ELM ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT ONE BLOCK ONE, WHICH IS IN PARK VILLAGE IN SOUTHLAKE.

LET'S SEE HERE.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 30TH TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND REVISED SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED NOVEMBER 4TH TWENTY TWENTY ONE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND THAT ITEM IS ALSO APPROVED SEVEN ZERO.

WELCOME TO TOWN WEST ELM.

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL ITEM NUMBER 6D, WHICH IS

[6.D. ZA21-0085, Site Plan for Crisp and Green, on property described as Lot 1R1, Block 1, W. E. Mayfield Addition, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 2438 E. Southlake Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "C-2" Local Retail Commercial District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

ZA21-0085 SITE PLAN FOR CRISP & GREEN.

DIRECTOR BAKER.

MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO SEEK SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO A 3100 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

PREVIOUSLY, THE VERTEX BANK BUILDING AND THE BANKING DRIVE THRU LANES.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON POINT EIGHTY NINE ACRES.

THE BUILDING WILL BE MODIFIED SLIGHTLY.

THE EXISTING DRIVE THRU LANES WILL BE CONVERTED TO A DRIVE THRU IN ORDER AND A PICKUP WINDOW.

THE COVERED OUTDOOR DINING PATIO AREA WILL BE UNDER THE PREVIOUS DRIVE THRU TELLER WINDOWS AS PART OF THE BANK.

THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL PARKING IN THE FRONT AND THE REAR OF THE PATIO AREA.

THE LAND USE IS REGIONAL RETAIL.

THE ZONING IS C2 THIS IS A SITE PLAN.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE AND THE ZONING IN PLACE.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE LOWES BUILDING.

THERE'S A DRIVE CONNECTING BACK TO THE LOWE'S SHOPPING CENTER.

CLOSER IN SHOWING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON SITE.

THE OUTDOOR DINING AREA WILL BE IN THE DRIVE THRU AREA.

THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING AND PLANTINGS.

OBLIQUE VIEW LOOKING BACK TO THE NORTH.

THIS IS LOOKING BACK TO THE SOUTH AND THIS IS A STREET VIEW OF THE BANK PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

THE EXISTING DRIVE THRU LANES AS MENTIONED WILL BE CONVERTED TO A DRIVE THROUGH PREORDER WINDOW THAT'S SHOWN IN THIS VICINITY.

THE BUSINESS MODEL IS THAT YOU PREORDER THROUGH THE APP AND GIVEN A PERIOD OF TIME TO PICK UP THE FOOD AND DRINKS.

IT WON'T BE A TRADITIONAL DRIVE THRU.

IT'LL BE PREORDERED AND PICK UP THROUGH THE WINDOW.

A ONE WAY EXIT AT THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS INCLUDED FOR A NO ENTRY SIGN.

AT THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING FROM THE RESTAURANT TO THE OUTDOOR DINING AREA, THERE'S A RAISED SIDEWALK AREA.

TRAFFIC CALMING.

THERE'S A POSSIBLE OPTION FOR FLASHING PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AS YOU COME OUT THE FRONT DOOR AND GO TO THE OUTDOOR DINING AREA AS YOU'RE CROSSING THROUGH THAT DRIVE LANE.

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AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE A CAUTION OR FLASHING TO INDICATE A PEDESTRIAN IS MOVING ACROSS THAT DRIVE LANE.

ADDITIONAL SITE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE FACADE UPDATES.

ADDITIONAL PARKING.

THE OUTDOOR COVERED DINING PATIO.

STRING LIGHTS ON THE PATIO.

AND THEN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.

THIS SHOWS THE PROPOSED TREE CONSERVATION PLAN.

ALL OF THE TREES ON THE SITE WILL BE PRESERVED.

THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN WILL INCLUDE PLANTING OF THE ISLANDS, PLANTING ALONG THE OUTDOOR PATIO DINING AREA.

THESE ARE THE PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS WHICH SHOW THE RENOVATION TO THE FRONT, WHICH WILL MOVE THE THE LOWER PITCHED ROOF AND BLOCK THAT AREA OFF THE THE RENOVATED FRONT ENTRANCE.

BE A STUCCO FACADE AND THE BUILDING WILL BE PAINTED.

THERE'LL BE STILL ARCHITECTURE AND SCREENING STRUCTURE LOCATED IN FRONT OF THE NEW PATIO AREA.

THIS IS THE NORTH AND WEST ELEVATION.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN SHOWING THE OUTDOOR DINING AREA.

THE DRIVE THRU PICK UP LANE.

THE TRAFFIC CALMING, THE RAISED CROSSWALKS.

THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE BUILDING.

A COUPLE RENDERINGS SHOWING THE RENOVATIONS TO THE BUILDING AND YOU NOTICE THE CHANGE TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

THE METAL ARCHITECTURE AND THE CONVERSION OF THE DRIVE THRU LANES TO OUTDOOR PATIOS.

THE ISLANDS, WHEN APPROVED BACK IN THE 90S, DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TODAY.

THERE IS A VARIANCE REQUESTED THAT THE ISLANDS BE ABLE TO REMAIN AS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE.

THE PARKING ISLAND AREA IS DEFICIENT, BUT THEY'RE ASKING TO ALLOW THE WIDTH AS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED.

ALSO A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE EXPOSED COLUMNS ON THE METAL ARCHITECTURE IN THE OVERLAY.

THESE ARE REQUIRED TO BE CLAD WITH MASONRY, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS SLEEKER STEEL ARCHITECTURE LOOK.

THERE ARE-- DURING THE DISCUSSION AT THE [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE AT THE P AND Z, THE MAIN FOCUS WAS ON THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING OF THE DRIVE THRU AND THAT WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP AT THE QUARTER COMMITTEE.

AS SUCH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED AN ALTERNATIVE A., WHICH SHOWS THE PICKUP IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING AND THE EXHIBITS HAVE PROVIDED.

THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE SOME PROS AND CONS WHICH I'LL GO BACK OR DEFER TO THE APPLICANT IF THEY WANT TO GET INTO THAT, BUT THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET.

THE ALTERNATIVE ALTERNATIVE A PLAN WOULD REQUIRE A PARKING VARIANCE DUE TO 29 PARKING SPACES BEING REQUIRED AND 28 WOULD ONLY BE PROVIDED IN THE ALTERNATIVE A SCENARIO.

THE ALTERNATIVE B SCENARIO SHOWS THE PICKUP ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE OUTDOOR DINING AREA.

AGAIN, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDE THE PROS AND CONS OF THIS ALTERNATIVE PLAN.

AGAIN, JUST SOME PHOTOS.

WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS ON THE PROPOSAL.

BE GLAD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

THE PNZ DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL SEVEN ZERO AND BRING BACK SOME ILLUSTRATIONS OF THE CURRENT SITE PLAN WITH PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS AND SAFETY FEATURES.

THERE WERE SOME VIDEOS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKETS WHICH SHOWED THE VIEWS OF THE DRIVER COMING ACROSS THE DRIVE THRU LANE, AS WELL AS THE OPERATION OF THE SAFETY DEVICE, THE FLASHING SAFETY DEVICE.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR BAKER.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES DIRECTOR BAKER, WILL YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT REVIEWS THE CONS OF ALTERNATE B.

YEAH, CAN YOU GO BACK A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE ORIGINAL RENDERINGS THAT SHOWED THE DRIVE THROUGH COMING CLOSER TO THE BUILDING? IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST DETAILED THERE.

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IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK BECAUSE I WANT TO.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

YEAH, RIGHT THERE.

IT'S FINE.

IT'S ESCAPING ME THAT WHAT WE CALL IT.

BUT WHAT'S IT CALLED WHEN YOU HAVE A FORCED DIRECTION ON AN EXIT WHERE YOU KNOW THAT ONE SIDE IS KIND OF CURVED? NO RIGHT HAND TURN KIND OF THING.

BUT WHAT'S THAT CALLED? USUALLY A FORCE TURN OR-- OK.

ONE WAY OUT.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS A FANCY WORD, OK? I DON'T HAVE IT.

[LAUGHTER] I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR OPINION RIGHT.

LET ME GET YOUR OPINION.

BUT PERHAPS THE APPLICANT, TOO, BECAUSE I'D PREFER THAT TRAFFIC NOT HAVE THE OPTION TO GO BACK INTO THAT LOWE'S PARKING LOT.

THAT'S A REALLY CONVOLUTED WAY TO GET OUT TO KIMBALL AND VERSUS IF YOU FORCE IT TO THE LEFT, THERE'S A PERFECT ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE TO COME OUT.

YOU TURN RIGHT AND YOU'RE RIGHT THERE BACK AT KIMBALL FOR THE WAY TRAFFIC SHOULD KIND OF MOVE.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER PUTTING THERE? WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT WITHOUT THIS CONFIGURATION HERE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT CONFIGURATION JUST AT THE END ON THIS ONE HERE.

NO, NO.

THE ONE YOU'RE SHOWING THE MIDDLE.

THIS HERE? .

[INAUDIBLE] THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WOULD BE A CURVED EXIT WITH A SIGN THAT JUST NO LEFT HAND TURN AND IT FORCES THEM TO EXIT OUT OF THE PROPERTY.

RIGHT.

IT WOULD REQUIRE MOVING THIS LANDSCAPE ISLAND AND PROBABLY THIS LANDSCAPE ISLAND.

BUT YOU YOU COULD ASK THE APPLICANT IF COUNCIL'S WILLING TO ALLOW THE REMOVAL OF THAT.

AND THERE-- THE ISLAND COULD BE RESHAPED AND YOU'D LOSE ONE PARKING SPOT, RIGHT? YEAH, YOU LOSE THIS PARKING SPOT.

WHAT'S THE CONCERN, RANDY? YEAH, JUST THE CONCERN IS THAT IT'S-- YOU WILL GET PEOPLE THAT WILL WANT TO TURN RIGHT AND GO BACK THROUGH THE LOWES PARKING LOT, DOWN PASSED BURGER KING AND THE PANDA AND MCDONALD'S ALL.

SO IT'S JUST A COMPLICATED PATH THROUGH MULTIPLE PARKING LOTS VERSUS IT'S A NATURAL EXIT.

IF YOU TURN LEFT THERE AND GO 20 YARDS, YOU'RE AT A A DIVIDED EXIT THAT IT'S A VERY EASY RIGHT HAND TURN.

YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO TAKE PRESSURE OFF BEING FORCED TO BE PUT ON TO SOUTHLAKE BLVD.

YEAH, YEAH, I LIKE-- I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH IT IS CONVOLUTED AND YOU KIND OF-- THAT'S THE THE ROLL OF THE DICE THAT YOU TAKE WHEN YOU EXIT RIGHT? IN THAT KIND OF AREA BECAUSE IT'S YEAH-- I JUST DON'T LIKE FEEDING TRAFFIC INTO A PEDESTRIAN PARKING LOT LIKE LOWE'S, IDEALLY.

BUT I THINK PEOPLE COME MORE, AT LEAST FROM KIMBALL, TO GET TO THIS AREA THAN GOING FROM THIS AREA TO GET TO KIMBALL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TO THIS AREA IF YOU GO ON 1709.

SO I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S YOUR CONCERN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU STOP THAT UNLESS YOU BLOCK IT OFF.

[INAUDIBLE].

I DO THAT ALL THE TIME TO GET TO SUSHI ZEN.

AND I'M THE SAME WAY, SO PLEASE DON'T STOP IT.

I WANNA BE ABLE TO COME UP THAT WAY.

JUST NOT TO GO BACK THE OTHER WAY.

BUT NO, IN REALITY, THAT'S WHAT I DO.

[LAUGHTER] YEAH.

YOU GET HOME.

I COME THROUGH THERE.

I GO TO SUSHI ZEN, BUT I WANT TO EXIT.

I DON'T EXIT BACK THROUGH THE PARKING-- AND I DON'T THINK MOST I THINK MOST PEOPLE DON'T.

I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU.

YEAH, MAYBE YOU'RE POINT IS RIGHT.

CAN YOU IMAGINE, THOUGH, IF YOU YOU WANTED TO GO TO LOWE'S AFTER EATING LUNCH AND HOW I JUST WANT TO BUY LUMBER AFTER MY SALAD.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THIS.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN STACK FOUR BEFORE YOU START, INCLUDING PARKING WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH.

LOOKING AT OPTION A-- NOT OR NOT-- THIS ONE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO.

IT PROVIDES AT LEAST ONE MORE STACKING OPPORTUNITY BEFORE YOU START BACKING UP INTO A PARKING SPOT.

AND MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS SPACE ON THE RIGHT? IF THERE ARE CARS PARKED THERE AND IF THIS BECOMES A BUSY DRIVE THRU, IS THAT ENOUGH SPACE FOR A CAR TO BACK OUT AND GO AHEAD AND GET OUT? OR WILL THEY BE STUCK IF THAT LINE'S THERE? THEY COULD PULL OUT OF THE LINE AGAIN IT'S A-- NO, NO, NO.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE.

IF THEY'RE PARKED ON THE RIGHT, IF THAT LINE IS THERE, CAN THEY BACK OUT AND GET OUT OR-- IS IT PARALLEL PARKING UP HERE? NO, NO.

[INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, RIGHT THERE.

IF THEY'RE PARKED THERE AND THOSE CARS [INAUDIBLE] THEIR CARS BACK HERE, IS THAT WIDE ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO BACK OUT AND GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH LOWE'S PARKING LOT? YES.

I MEAN, THE STACKING PROBABLY WILL NOT.

THERE COULD BE STACKING AND MAYBE DURING BUSY TIMES, THEY TRY TO AVOID THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE-- IT'S NOT A TRADITIONAL DRIVE THRU WHERE THEY GET-- BUT THEY HAVE PICKUP TIMES AND THIS IS MORE OF A PICKUP.

SO THEY'RE GIVING A 10 MINUTE WINDOW.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE THE LINES LIKE YOU WOULD THE CHICK FIL A, NECESSARILY.

I PERSONALLY, YEAH, I THINK THIS THIS OPTION TO ME LOOKS MUCH MORE FUNCTIONAL AND

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MUCH-- KIND OF SAFE.

THAN THE THAN THE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND CERTAINLY BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATE B, BECAUSE B, IT'S GOING TO TOTALLY STACK A BOTTLENECK OVER THERE ON THE BACK SIDE IF THERE'S ANYBODY PARKED BEHIND IT.

WELL, WHAT'S THE APPLICANTS-- WELL, I GUESS WE'LL ASK THEM IN A SECOND.

DIRECTOR BAKER, AS THE APPLICANT COMES UP, CAN YOU PUT THE ORIGINAL OR THE PREFERRED, I GUESS, THE APPLICANT'S PREFERRED CONCEPT? THERE YOU GO.

ANY THE QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OK, THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? COME ON DOWN.

YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND CREATIVE USE OF THIS BUILDING, BY THE WAY, WHEN I SAW IT WENT OFF A MARKET, I WAS [INAUDIBLE] BANK, SOMETHING, I NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD HAVE IMAGINED RESTAURANT SO WELL DONE.

I LIKE IT.

MY NAME IS HENRY QUIGG WITH THE RICHMOND GROUP AT 12200 SIMMONS FREEWAY, DALLAS, TEXAS.

BLAKE GRAVES, 2500 MACKINNON STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS.

ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? HONESTLY, I'LL JUST TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS.

I THINK WE'VE SEEN ENOUGH NOW.

GENTLEMEN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING TO THE COURT ORDER COMMITTEE, AND I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU OBVIOUSLY BROUGHT OPTIONS, WHICH IS, I THINK THE MESSAGE THAT YOU HEARD FROM THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE.

SO APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT.

ON THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT, WHICH I'M REALLY LEANING INTO FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

DID WE DISCUSS OR IS THERE CURRENTLY AN IDEA OF PUTTING UP FENCING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT DRIVE THROUGH? THERE IS-- AND WITH LIKE AT LEAST A SINGLE GATE, THAT AUTO CLOSES, SO IT WOULD KIND OF SECURE THE PATRONS WHILE THEY'RE IN THERE BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT ON THIS RENDERING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE PATIO SIDE, JUST IN BETWEEN THE PATIO AND THE THE PULL THROUGH LANE ON THE WEST SIDE OF-- BETWEEN THE PATIO AND THE DRIVE THRU LINE? YES, SIR.

MEAN THE PLANTERS ARE DESIGNED TO DO THAT-- BUT ON THE-- SO ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PLANT OR PARDON ME, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT PLANTER, RIGHT? IN BETWEEN THE PLANTER BOX AND THE DRIVE THRU LANE? IS THERE ANY-- IS THAT A WHOLE AREA SECURED? YEAH.

AND SO WHAT WE'D PROBABLY LIKE TO DO IS JUST MOVE THOSE PLANTERS OVER TO WHERE THEY BLOCK PEOPLE WALKING RIGHT BY THE CARS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING? I'M-- WHAT I'M REALLY, I GUESS WHAT I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET TO IS THAT WHOLE AREA FENCED IN ENCLOSED.

MY VISION AND CONCERNED-- ENCLOSED? YEAH, JUST WITH LIKE LIKE WROUGHT IRON FENCING, FOR EXAMPLE, AT FOUR FEET OR-- COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE BASICALLY STRETCHING ALONG THIS.

I THINK MY GOAL WOULD BE THAT BECOMES A NATURAL BARRIER.

[INAUDIBLE].

WHETHER YOU USE PLANTERS, WHETHER WE USE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY MENTIONED A FENCE OF SOME SORT.

I WOULD DO IT WITH CLASSY PLANTERS I THINK.

WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO USE CB2 PLANTERS WITH SOME BOXWOOD RIGHT THERE.

CREATE A NATURAL BARRIER WHERE THERE'S NO INTERRUPTION BETWEEN THE GUEST THAT'S IN PATIO AND THE PEOPLE IN THE DRIVE THRU LINE.

SO HERE'S HERE'S MY VISION AND TELL ME IF YOU'RE MEETING THIS GOAL.

SO THERE ARE A FEW MOMS HAVING A LUNCHEON AND THEIR KIDS ARE KIND OF BE BOPPING AROUND AND THEY'RE HALF PAYING ATTENTION OR THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION A LOT MORE THAN THAN THEY PROBABLY WANT TO BE.

IF THAT IS ALL KIND OF KID PROOF FROM RUNNING OUT INTO EITHER THE PULL THROUGH, THE DRIVE THRU OR THE PARKING AREA OR CARS ARE TRYING TO GO TO LOWE'S OR GOING BACK ON THE SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD? IS THAT ENCAPSULATED AREA FOR KIDS? YEA SO AS A FAMILY MEMBER OF SIX WITH, YOU KNOW, YOUNGER BROTHERS AND SISTERS? ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, OK, THAT WILL-- IT MAY NOT BE ENCAPSULATED IN THIS RENDERING RIGHT HERE, BUT ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL BE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WE'RE KID FRIENDLY.

AND SO-- SURE.

IT'S SOMETHING-- I'M AWARE.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED.

THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKEAWAY.

I WANT TO ENSURE THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS UNDER THE CONDITION THAT THAT AREA IS PROTECTED FOR KIDS TO BE ABLE TO MEANDER WITH ONE EYE ON THEM AND ONE EYE NOT ON THEM.

YEAH, YOU HAVE MY WORD.

WONDERFUL.

WHICH OPTION DO YOU PREFER? SO OPERATIONALLY, I'LL TELL YOU THAT THIS RIGHT HERE AND HANK AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME HOURS AND BRAINPOWER GOING THROUGH THIS AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT ZONING BROUGHT UP THAT THEY AT LEAST WANTED TO SEE THEM.

BUT THIS BY FAR IS HAS THE BEST TRAFFIC FLOW OF THE SITE.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET.

AS FAR AS JUST WITH STACKAGE AND STUFF.

AND FURTHERMORE, WE JUST FEEL THAT THIS CREATES A GREAT AMBIANCE FOR THE SPACE AND WE CAN STILL KEEP EVERYONE SAFE AND OPERATIONALLY THAT DOOR RIGHT THERE.

SO THERE'S A SLIDING GLASS DOOR RIGHT HERE.

AND BY HAVING THAT CLOSE TO WHERE THE DRIVE THRU LANE IS, AND I'M GOING TO CALL IT A PICKUP WINDOW LANE BECAUSE THE ORDERS ARE ALREADY DONE, PEOPLE ARE JUST PICKING THEM UP.

IT KEEPS THE FLOW GOING REALLY RAPIDLY AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE TYPICALLY MORE

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THAN ONE OR TWO CARS STACKED BEHIND IT BECAUSE IF THEIR ORDER IS NOT DONE, WE'LL TELL THEM TO PULL AHEAD TO A SPACE AND PARK AND THEN WE WILL GO BRING THAT TO THEM.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES THAT A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE DO.

VERY GOOD.

WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE SINCE THAT'S YOUR MODEL? YOU KNOW, IT'S AN APP ORDER WITH A PICKUP.

WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE IF IT WAS APPROVED THAT THAT WAS THE LIMITATION ON THE DRIVE THROUGH? IT HAD TO BE APP ORDER PICKUPS.

IT COULD NOT BE COME TO THE WINDOW AND ORDER AND WAIT TYPE SITUATION.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, YEAH.

IT'S JUST NOT IN OUR MODEL.

I MEAN, I WOULDN'T THINK IT'D BE EFFECTIVE, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT COULD REALLY BACK THINGS UP IF ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GUYS SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO START TAKING ORDERS AT THE WINDOW AND THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE SIT AND WAIT.

AND YEAH, NO.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE OBVIOUSLY AVOID.

SO I WOULD ABSOLUTELY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

OK, SO WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN A IF A CUSTOMER COMES UP, THEY JUST DON'T KNOW.

DO YOU JUST ASK THEM TO GO PARK AND ORDER OR HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? YEAH.

SO WE'VE HAD THAT BEFORE IN ONE OF OUR OTHER BUSINESSES WHERE PEOPLE COME UP AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, I'D LIKE MAKE AN ORDER AND IT'S, HEY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE HERE.

IF YOU DOWNLOAD OUR APP AND ACTUALLY PULL UP TO A PARKING SPACE, YOU CAN ORDER IT.

AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK AROUND AT THAT DESIGNATED TIME, WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.

OR IF NOT, JUST GIVE US A CALL AND WE'LL RUN OUT YOUR CAR ONCE IT'S READY.

SO A LOT OF IT IN THE BEGINNING BECOMES EDUCATIONAL WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING THROUGH.

BUT ONCE THEY FIGURE IT OUT, YOU'VE GOT TWO KIDS IN THE BACK, YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THE CAR.

IT BECOMES REALLY, REALLY EASY FOR MOMS AND PEOPLE ON CONFERENCE CALLS, ET CETERA.

I HAVE TO TELL YOU GUYS, I'VE LOOKED AT THIS A LOT AND THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LOT, AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANT IT THIS WAY.

AND IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND IT.

BUT I BELIEVE DIRECTIONALLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS AND IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

THAT MEANS A LOT SO YOU WERE AT CORRIDOR.

SO FOR YOU TO SEE IT THIS WHOLE WAY THROUGH MEANS A LOT.

YEAH, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU WHY YOU DON'T LIKE ALTERNATE A OR B, BECAUSE I'M STILL NOT SOLD.

I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER PATENT AND I WAS ON CORRIDOR TOO, SO I'M STILL NOT SOLD ON THE CONCEPT OF CARS DRIVING BETWEEN THE RESTAURANT AND THE PATIO.

I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT MOM'S RUNNING WITH TRAYS FULL OF FOOD THEIR THREE LITTLE KIDS AND THERE'S CARS AND I KNOW THERE'S TIME I GOT ALL THAT.

I JUST STILL THINK IT'S KIND OF FUNNY TO HAVE THE RESTAURANT AND THEN A DRIVE THRU AND THEN A PATIO.

SO I AT THE MOMENT, I'M STILL LEANING TOWARDS THE PATIO, BEING ATTACHED TO THE RESTAURANT AND THE DRIVE THRU KIND OF BEING ON THE PERIMETER.

THAT'S ME.

THAT'S ME AS WELL.

SO IF I GO TO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, I MEAN THIS OPTION NUMBER B THIS REALLY ISN'T A PICK UP WINDOW BY ANY STRETCH OF IMAGINATION.

THIS IS FIFTY FIVE FEET FOR MY PEOPLE TO LEAVE THIS GLASS DOOR TO COME OVER HERE.

WE SHOWED THIS BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE AT CORRIDOR AND PLANNING AND GO, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU STICK IT ON THE OUTSIDE? SO WE SHOWED THIS.

THIS IS A TREK TO GO FROM HERE TO HERE.

AND THEN IF THEY DO STACK TWO CARS BEHIND THIS, THEN YOU'RE COVERING UP THIS PARKING.

SO I DON'T THINK THIS ONE IS FEASIBLE FOR THAT REASON OF JUST OPERATIONALLY HOW FAR MY TEAM MEMBERS WOULD HAVE TO WALK FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S RAINING, THEN YOU'RE HAVING THEM GO WITH A BAG ALL THE WAY PAST THE OVERHANG, ETC.

IF WE GO BACK TO ALTERNATE A.

YOU KNOW STACK ON THIS SIDE, ON THIS BACKSIDE, THERE'S A BACK DOOR WHERE EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BACK DOOR FOR OPERATIONAL BACKHOUSE KITCHEN.

I THINK YOU ALSO ELIMINATE THE PARKING SPOTS THAT WERE RIGHT THERE, IF I REMEMBER, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE ELIMINATING ALL THIS PARKING THAT WOULD BE RIGHT THERE.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE TRADE OFF BETWEEN PARKING AND YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE VISIBLY GOING TO SEE BACK HOUSE OPERATIONS, ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, I KEEP ON REVERTING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ONE THAT WE BROUGHT.

AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M STUCK IN MY WAYS AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE.

SO THIS IS THE BEST ONE.

WE SLICE THIS THING A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

I JUST LOOK AT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE AND GO, IF SOMEONE IS PICKING UP THEIR SALAD RIGHT HERE, IT'S ALREADY DONE.

WE CREATE THE BARRIERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE.

THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON TALKED ABOUT WHERE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE SAFE, FAMILIES ARE GOING TO BE SAFE AND THEY'RE COMING THROUGH HERE.

FROM THIS RIGHT HERE I THINK A LOT OF THE FEAR IS THAT FROM RIGHT HERE TO HERE ISN'T FAR ENOUGH DISTANCE.

YOU KNOW, I CLOCKED THIS AND I SAT IN MY CAR.

IT'S A GOOD NINE SECONDS FROM THIS RIGHT HERE TO HERE, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE OBSTRUCTIONS THAT SOME PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

ANOTHER THING IS YOU CAN'T EAT ANYTHING OUT OF OUR BAG RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE FRIES AND WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST GRAB AND EAT RIGHT AWAY.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT DISTRACTION OF BEING HUNGRY AND WANTING TO GRAB SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR BAG.

SO WE ADDED IN THIS RUMBLE STRIP AS AN EVEN ADDED PRECAUTION AND THEN RAISED THIS.

THERE'S A GAP RIGHT HERE I THINK IT'S LIKE SIX FEET OR SO SEVEN FEET.

SO EVEN WHEN YOU'RE RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN ALREADY SEE THROUGH THE SIGHT LINE THAT THERE'S A CAR OR A PEDESTRIAN, AND FROM THIS WAY BACKWARDS, YOU CAN SEE THE CAR WHEN IT'S ABOUT RIGHT HERE.

SO LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT MOMS AND SHOWING

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THEM THIS ONE AND EVEN JUST HAVING YOUNGER SIBLINGS OF MY OWN, I DO FEEL VERY, VERY CONFIDENT STANDING HERE THAT THIS WILL BE SAFE.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I HAVE FOR YOU.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED PUTTING THAT KIND OF SAME RUMBLE STRIP ON THE NORTH SIDE? SO BEFORE YOU EVEN GET IN THERE, SO CARS KIND OF RECOGNIZE THERE, THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A DRIVE THRU AND THERE IS POTENTIAL PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY BECAUSE IF YOU'RE HAVING IT AFTER YOU'VE KIND OF PASSED ALL THE TRAFFIC KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE TO SOME DEGREE.

SO HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT PLACING IT BASICALLY WHERE THE ARROW.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE THE RUMBLE STRIP IS? CORRECT, THAT RUMBLE.

IT'S RIGHT BEFORE IT STARTS TO RISE UP.

SO THE SIDEWALK ACTUALLY IS THE ELEVATION THAT WE'RE KEEPING.

SO YOU GO OVER RIGHT, CALL IT A GIANT SPEED BUMP FOR EASE OF UNDERSTANDING AND YOU HIT THAT RUMBLE STRIP BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT.

HE'S ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL RUMBLE STRIP ON THE NORTH SIDE AS YOU'RE PULLING IN.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO YOU ALL WANT BACK HERE.

YEAH, I MEAN, JUST AN EXTRA LAYER OF, YOU KNOW, CAUTION.

I THINK MAYBE THAT WILL EASE THE MINDS OF MAYBE SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I LOOK AT THIS THIS WAY.

IF THIS BUSINESS MODEL DOESN'T WORK WITH YOUR ABILITY TO DELIVER, YOU'RE GOING TO ADAPT, YOU'RE GOING TO SHUT IT DOWN AND START MOVING IT EITHER TO THE REAR, WHICH IS WHERE YOU'RE TAKING OUT THE TRASH AND BRINGING IN INVENTORY, OR YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH IT OUT TO THE SIDE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO NEED US TO DO THAT.

YOU'RE GOING TO JUST DO IT ON YOUR OWN.

SO I'M OK WITH THIS.

I JUST THINK THAT IF YOUR PATRONS DON'T FEEL SAFE, IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOUR PATRONS ARE SAFE, YOU'RE GOING TO MODIFY VERY QUICKLY.

YEAH, AND I'LL NEVER PUT MY PATRONS AT RISK.

YEAH, I WOULDN'T THINK SO.

THIS VERSION IS COVERED, CORRECT? THE DRIVE THRU IS COVERED CORRECT? THIS IS COVERED YOUR CAR BECOMES COVERED RIGHT ABOUT HERE.

SO THIS IS COVERED RIGHT PAST THIS BLUE LINE.

YEAH, YEAH, COVER.

I FEEL I THINK THAT'S GOING TO FEEL BETTER FOR EVERYBODY.

AND I MEAN, I WOULDN'T ARGUE WITH THAT.

I THINK THE COVER IS NICE, BUT I THINK AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT THAT NO ONE WOULD HAVE THE INTENTION, BUT I JUST PICTURE A 16 YEAR OLD KID PICKING UP A BAG HERE AND GRABBING THEIR STRAW OR SOMETHING AND A MOM AND THREE TODDLERS WALKING ACROSS AND IF WE CAN AVOID THAT, EVEN THAT POTENTIAL OF SAFETY, IT JUST SEEMS, MAN, THAT'S JUST A HUGE THAT JUST LOOKS LIKE A VERY RISKY, RISKY SPOT TO ME.

YEAH, I GUESS I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LOT AS WELL, ESPECIALLY SINCE CORRIDOR AND WE TALKED AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BRINGING BACK THESE ALTERNATE PLANS.

I GUESS FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD WANT TO SIT OUTSIDE AND WATCH CARS DRIVE BY FOR ME.

THAT, TO ME HAS LIKE A DIFFERENT PLACE KIND OF FEEL WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO SIT OUTSIDE.

SO FOR ME, THE FLOW, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A LOT.

THE AMBIANCE, IT WOULD ALL BE A LOT NICER, A LOT MORE WELCOMING TO, HAVE IT CONNECTED.

AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING OUTSIDE WHO ARE GOING TO WANT TO GET IN TO GO TO THE RESTROOM.

MAYBE THEY REFILL THEIR DRINKS INSIDE, I'M NOT SURE, BUT THEY HAVE TO THEN GET THROUGH AND AROUND WHATEVER FENCING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET ACROSS THE DRIVE THRU.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE WORKING WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT, YOU'RE WORKING WITH A BANK THAT HAS DRIVE THRU LANES.

YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THIS MODEL.

AND I THINK IF OF THE OTHER TWO A MAKES THE MOST SENSE, I CAN SEE ALL THE ISSUES WITH B THAT JUST DOESN'T THAT WOULDN'T WORK FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.

I'M NOT 100 PERCENT SOLD ON THIS.

AND AGAIN, I JUST THINK FROM SOMEBODY WHO'S SITTING OUTSIDE EATING, I DON'T WANT TO WATCH CARS DRIVE BY IF I'M BEING HONEST, I MEAN, JUST FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

SO YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO TRY TO.

I MEAN, IT'S THEIR MODEL.

IF THEY BELIEVE IT WORKS, THEN GO FOR IT.

BUT I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT I USUALLY AM ON THE SAFETY TYPE THINGS, BUT I'M NOT AS CONCERNED HERE BECAUSE HONESTLY, BACK TO THE WHOLE PREMISE OF THE MODEL, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS INDOORS.

I'LL, YOU KNOW, I'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT, WHEN I SEE HEAVY TRAFFIC THROUGH A DRIVE THRU ON AN APP THAT YOU SHOW.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT THAT'S NOT ME.

I HATE GOING TO AN APP.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AS BUSY AS WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.

NOT TO MENTION, I MEAN, EVERY DRIVE THRU IN TOWN HAS AN EXIT DOOR WHERE PEOPLE GO ACROSS THE DRIVE THRU LANE.

EVERYONE IN TOWN, MCDONALD'S DOES, CHICK FIL A DOES, BURGER KING DOES TACO BELL.

BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DRIVE THRU THAT DOESN'T HAVE PATRONS RUNNING ACROSS THE ROAD.

SO YEAH, THAT'S PART OF IT.

IN SOME CASES, IT'S ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE DRIVE-THRU.

THERE'S PARKING YES, BUT TO GET TO COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY'S POINT, I'M NOT GOING TO TACO BELL TO HANG OUT WITH MY GIRLFRIENDS AND EAT A SALAD AND HAVE A WONDERFUL AFTERNOON.

IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN CONCEPT BETWEEN GOING TO A REALLY COOL SALAD PLACE AND

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HANGING OUT WITH GIRLFRIENDS AND HAVING TO RUN IN AND GET YOUR TEA AND WORRIED ABOUT YOUR THREE YEAR OLD'S.

IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT VIBE.

BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER WE LIKE THIS FLOOR PLAN, NOT WHETHER THE VIBE WORKS FOR US.

THAT'S MY POINT.

I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE EVERYTHING.

WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE IF.

IT'S VIABLE FOR SOUTHLAKE.

WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE IF IT WOULD BE A GOOD ADDITION TO OUR TOWN, WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE IF IT WOULD WORK FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS.

I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE A LOT OF THINGS.

WELL, I DON'T THINK THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT VIBE IS APPROPRIATE HERE.

THAT'S LIKE SUGGESTING THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A CERTAIN THING ON THEIR MENU FOR US TO CONSIDER THIS AS SOMETHING WE WANT TO APPROVE.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO STICK TO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE GAVE THEM RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT WE LIKE AND THINK WILL WORK WELL FOR PATIO AREAS.

BUT I THINK IN ORDER TO STAY ON POINT, WE NEED TO DECIDE FOR THE PURPOSES OF SAFETY OR WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE WITHIN OUR OWN MIND HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS FLOOR PLAN AND TRY TO STAY SPECIFIC TO THAT.

I COULDN'T AGREE MORE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY EASY TO MOVE INTO A SPOT WHERE WE'RE JUST WRONG.

I MEAN, TO COUNCILMAN ROBBINS POINT, I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THE MONEY THAT STARBUCKS AND CHICK FIL A AND MCDONALD'S ARE MAKING OFF OF MOBILE APPS.

I MEAN, IT FAR AN ECLIPSES FAR AND AWAY ECLIPSES WHAT THEY WERE MAKING WITH SIT DOWN TRAFFIC ALONE.

PEOPLE DO USE AN APP OVERWHELMINGLY.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT MANY OF THE RESTAURANTS IN TOWN HAVE GONE ALMOST STRICTLY TO A DRIVE THRU MODEL, AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER RATES OF INCIDENT OF, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTS.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, AND I TRUST THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO CREATE A BUSINESS MODEL THAT'S NOT WORKABLE FOR YOURSELF.

BUT AND AGAIN, THOUGH THIS IS A SITE PLAN, WE HAVE NO JURISDICTION ON VIABILITY.

IT'S A MINISTERIAL ACT.

WE CAN GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE LIKE, BUT I WOULD SAY YOU HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS TO THAT.

IF YOU PUSH THEM IN ONE DIRECTION, AND GO, HEY, WE WANT THE DRIVE THRU WAY OUT ON THE OUTSIDE.

AND THEN ON DAY ONE, GOD FORBID, SOMEBODY GETS HIT BY A CAR.

WELL, THE COUNCIL IS THE ONE THAT TOLD ME TO PUT IT THERE, YOU KNOW, SO.

THAT'S FAIR.

LET'S DO THIS.

I MEAN, WE'VE CHEWED ON THIS, YOU JUST TELL ME.

SO WE GOT PROPOSED.

WE GOT OPTION A AND OPTION B.

RANDY, WHAT ARE YOUR PROPOSED.

SO THAT'S FOUR PROPOSED.

I WOULD SAY IF YOU GUYS ARE OK MAKING THE MOTION FOR PROPOSAL, WE'LL JUST SEE HOW IT GOES.

WELL, WE CAN KEEP CHEWING ON THIS.

I THINK WE PROBABLY SEE THE PROS AND CONS AT THIS POINT.

I MEAN UNLESS THERE'S, I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT OFF DISCUSSION.

RECOMMENDATION.

YEAH, YEAH.

WELL, OK.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AS AMY HAS REMINDED ME.

SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE'LL CALL YOU UP IN A MINUTE.

WE MIGHT HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT FOR NOW, LET'S GO AHEAD AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

OK, SEEING NONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I REALLY DON'T WANT TO CUT OFF DISCUSSION, BUT IF WE WANT TO CHEW ON IT SOME MORE WE CAN? NO, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT I MEAN, I'M ABSOLUTELY FOR THIS RESTAURANT AND HAPPY THAT THEY'RE COMING.

AND MY CONCERN IS SAFETY.

AND I EXPRESSED THAT AT CORRIDOR AND I'M RE-EXPRESSING IT TONIGHT.

I MEAN, I'M PERFECTLY FOR IT.

THAT'S A VALID CONCERN.

VERY EXCITED FOR IT.

VALID CONCERN.

YEAH, I'M THE SAME WAY.

IT'S THIS IS PURELY SAFETY TO ME.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VIBE OR FEEL OR ANYTHING.

I JUST DON'T WANT A KID HIT.

YEAH, FOR SURE.

OBVIOUSLY, I'M IN THE EXACT SAME AGREEMENT.

I LOVE THIS CONCEPT.

I LOVE THE RESTAURANT AND I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.

BUT I AM SUPER CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE APPROVING HERE.

I DON'T [INAUDIBLE] THE RUMBLE STRIP, LIKE CHAD HAD MENTIONED, MAKES SOME SENSE TO ME.

THAT KIND OF ADDS A LAYER OF PROTECTION.

ANYTHING TO, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY THE DRIVE THRU SPOT AS A DRIVE THRU.

ARE WE COMFORTABLE PUTTING THAT IN THE MOTION? YEAH.

WE CAN ADD THAT.

SO THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE, WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6D OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ZA210085 WHICH IS A SITE PLAN FOR CRISP & GREEN, LOCATED AT 2438 EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS CURRENT ZONING C TWO, WHICH IS LOCAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

ALMOST.

IF THEY ARE READY? OK.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 30TH 2021 THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED NOVEMBER 12, 2021.

NOTING THE VARIANCE PROVING THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN AS PRESENTED AND PROVING THE FOLLOWING VARIANCES THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE NUMBER FIVE FOUR FOUR AS AMENDED TO ALLOW THE PARKING LOT ISLANDS TO REMAIN AS SHOWN.

ZONING ORDINANCE 480 SECTION 43.9.C.1.E TO ALLOW THE STEEL COLUMNS FOR THE STEEL ARCHITECTURE SCREENING AS PROPOSED, ALSO REQUIRING THE FLASHING PEDESTRIAN CROSSING

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SIGN TO BE INSTALLED, AS WELL AS THE RUMBLE PAD NORTH OF THE ENTRY SUBJECT TO STAFF DIRECTION AND APPROVAL.

THERE'S A MOTION.

OK, THAT ITEM PASSES 4 3.

CONGRATULATIONS, WELCOME TO SOUTHLAKE.

LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS.

OK WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX E AND SIX F.

[Items 6E - 6G]

NOW DIRECTOR BAKER WE GOT SIX G, WHICH IS THE MASTER SIGN PLAN.

ARE YOU GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON 6G AT THE SAME TIME? I CAN, IF YOU'D LIKE.

SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE.

IS THERE A REASON TO KEEP THEM SEPARATE? OK? NO, SIR, I CAN DO ALL THREE OF THEM.

THEN I'LL CALL SIX E, SIX F AND SIX G.

DIRECTOR BAKER.

MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

ITEM 6E IS THE REQUEST FOR APPROVAL AND DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN TO DEVELOP A FIVE STORY, ONE HUNDRED FIFTY ONE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING AND A COMMERCIAL BUILDING UP TO 10000 SQUARE FEET ON TWO POINT SIX TWO ACRES.

SIX F IS THE APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A FIVE LEVEL PRECAST PARKING STRUCTURE TO BE ADDED TO THE SOUTH FAÃ♪ADE OR THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING ON THE EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURE.

THE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED AT 601 STATE STREET, GENERALLY ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD IN STATE STREET.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.

TOWN CENTER LAND USE DESIGNATION DT DISTRICT THE USE AS PROPOSED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING AND THE LAND USE CATEGORY.

STREET VIEW OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY LOOKING BACK TO THE NORTHEAST FROM THE DIVISION AND STATE STREET INTERSECTION, AND THIS IS LOOKING FROM THE 114 FRONTAGE BACK TO THE SOUTHEAST EXISTING BUILDING AND PARKING GARAGE.

LOOKING DOWN DIVISION STREET.

WHAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING IS THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED.

THE PROPOSAL IS TO ADD THE OFFICE BUILDING THE PARKING STRUCTURE, WHICH IS ATTACHED TO THE EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTED.

ALSO, THIS WILL SERVE AS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE SITE PLAN FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A FUTURE BUILDING LOCATED ON LOT 3R TO ALLOW UP TO A TEN THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

THIS IS THE PARKING PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THE PARKING PLAN DOES SHOW THAT THERE WILL BE 770 SPACES PROVIDED IN LOTS 1R AND 3R.

EIGHT HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR SPACES ARE REQUIRED.

THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT'S CONSTRUCTED WITH THE LOT TWO, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THESE ON STREET PARKING LOTS THAT WILL BRING THE PARKING UP TO EVENTUALLY 816 PARKING SPACES WHEN THE PARKING SPACES WITH THE THREE R2 ARE CONSTRUCTED.

IN THE LOWER TABLE THERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT'S PROVIDED IN THE LOT ONE R LOT TWO WITH THE SEVEN PARKING SPACES AND THE LOT THREE R1 WITH A 277.

THE APPLICANT ALSO DID PROVIDE A LIST OF THE ASSETS UNDER GRANTED AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS IN DALLAS, ATLANTA, HOUSTON, AND L.A.

AND WITH 100 PERCENT CAPACITY AT A ONE POINT NINE AVERAGE OF PARKING USE PER OCCUPANCY.

IT COMES IN ABOUT 560 AND SO THE EVEN IF THE NUMBERS ARE OVER WHAT IS BEING SEEN ON OTHER ASSETS, THE PARKING IS EXCEEDED WELL OVER ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING ON NORMAL OPERATIONS.

THIS IS A VIEW OF THE BUILDING BEING PROPOSED.

THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING NORTH FROM THE PARK.

THE NORTHEAST.

A VIEW EAST FROM STATE STREET.

THERE WILL BE A CONNECTION FROM THE PARKING GARAGE TO THE MAIN OFFICE BUILDING

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OUTDOOR SEATING EMPLOYEE AREA, WILL BE PROVIDED? THE MATERIALS MATCH THE EXISTING BUILDING WITH THE MASONRY AND PRECAST CONCRETE.

NOW, THIS IS A COURTYARD VIEW OF THE CONNECTION POINT IN THE OUTDOOR AMENITIES.

THERE ARE TWO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED.

ONE IS THE DRIVEWAY STACKING DEPTH OFF OF STATE STREET.

THAT DRIVEWAY IS INSTALLED WITH THE FUTURE PARKING.

THAT WILL REQUIRE A VARIANCE ON THAT DRIVEWAY STACKING DEPTH.

AND THEN THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES TWO 10 BY 25 LOADING SPACES, ONE 10 BY 50 LOADING SPACES AS BEING PROPOSED.

THIS IS THE REQUEST EXHIBIT SHOWING LOCATION AND LOADING DOCKS AND THEN THE STACKING LOCATION.

SOME SOUTH ELEVATION, EAST ELEVATION, NORTH ELEVATION.

THIS IS THE PARKING STRUCTURE.

THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE AN SUP BE APPROVED FOR THE PARKING STRUCTURE.

THERE IS ONE VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED FOR TO ALLOW THE METAL SHIELDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY INSTALLED ON THE CURRENT PARKING GARAGE TO REPLICATE THOSE UNDER THE ORDINANCE.

THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THE PARKING STRUCTURES THAT ARE ADJACENT RIGHT AWAY HAVE SOLID PARAPETS WALLS NOT LESS THAN FORTY SIX INCHES, AND SHALL UTILIZE THE COLORS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PRINCIPLE BUILDING.

THE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS THE 46 INCH METAL PARAPET, WHICH IS APPROVED ON THE EXISTING GARAGE, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A SIMILAR VARIANCE FOR THIS PARKING STRUCTURE.

THIS P&Z RECOMMENDS THE SEVEN ZERO IMPROVING THE VARIANCES BOTH ON THE DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN AND THE SUP.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES.

IN TERMS OF THE MASTER SIGN PLAN.

WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS PROPOSED WITH THE BUILDING ONE.

THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT ALLOW UPPER STORY SIGNS.

THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF TOWN SQUARE IS NOT UNDER THE NEW SIGN ORDINANCE.

AS SUCH, THEY ARE GOING TO COME IN FOR A VARIANCE FOR THE UPPER STORY SIGNS THAT ARE PROPOSING ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION TWO SIGNS THAT CAN BE LOCATED IN THE LOCATIONS AS SHOWN.

THESE ARE 40 BY 50, WHICH ARE 200 SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS ABOUT 25 SQUARE FEET LESS THAN WHAT'S ON THE GRANITE PHASE ONE BUILDING THAT'S CONSTRUCTED.

THE LETTER SIZE MEETS THE ORDINANCE.

THEY ARE ASKING A VARIANCE FOR TO ALLOW THE SIGNS AT THE END CAPS OF THE BUILDING ON THE CORNERS OF THE BUILDING.

THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE LOCATED WITHIN THE MIDDLE 75 PERCENT, SO THAT IS ONE OF THE VARIANCES, AND THESE SIGNS MAY NOT BE CONGRUENT WITH FUTURE TENANT SPACE LOCATION.

ALSO ON THAT SOUTH FAÃ♪ADE TO FIRST FLOOR SIGNS ARE BEING PROPOSED.

THE ONLY VARIANCES ARE THE JUSTIFICATION NOT BEING IN THE 75 PERCENT.

THEY WILL BE BELOW THE UPPER STORY SIGNS AT THE CORNER OF THE BUILDINGS, AND THE SIGNS MAY NOT BE CONGRUENT WITH A FUTURE TENANT SPACE ON THE WEST ELEVATION.

THIS IS A SIDE FACING STATE STREET ONE UPPER STORY SIGN.

SAME DIMENSIONS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SAME JUSTIFICATION PLACEMENT ON THE CORNER.

AND THEN A FIRST FLOOR SIGN WITH THE LEFT JUSTIFICATION PLACEMENT AND THE CONGRUENT VARIANCE.

ALSO A MONUMENT SIGN AT THE CORNER OF STATE STREET AND DIVISION.

THE MONUMENT SIGN DOES MEET ALL 704J REGULATIONS.

THEY ALSO ARE ASKING FOR ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION PILASTER UP LIGHTING, NINE LIGHTS

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SHOWN THAT ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

YOU CAN SEE THE SPECS HERE.

THE ONLY REASON THAT IT'S COMING THROUGH THE SIGN VARIANCE IS IT'S NOT A A PERMITTED SIGN TYPE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE IT'LL BE A LED WHITE LIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE THE WATTAGE AND THE TEMPERATURE RANGE OF ABOUT BETWEEN THREE THOUSAND AND THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED KELVIN.

I CAN GO OVER THE PHASE ONE IF WE NEED ANY COMPARISON WHEN YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE, BUT I'LL ONLY DO THAT IF REQUESTED MAYOR.

SIGN BOARD DID APPROVE RECOMMENDATION SEVEN ZERO.

OK, PERFECT.

OK, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS A SITE PLAN, A SITE PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SIX E SIX F IS FOR THE SUP FOR THE JUST ALLOW THE GARAGE USED TO BE PERMITTED.

THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES IT AND THEN 60 OBVIOUSLY THE MASTER SIDE PLAN.

YEAH, SO SO THE ZONING IS ALREADY IN PLACE FOR THE BUILDING.

THE ZONING ORDINANCE ALLOWS THE PARKING GARAGE TO BE BUILT WITHIN SUP.

YES, ALL THE USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DT ZONING AND THE LAND USE PLAN THERE'S THE SITE PLAN ONLY.

AND AS FAR 6G GOES, THE MASTER SITE PLAN IS THAT SIGN BOARD THOUGHT IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THE FIRST PHASE OF GRANITE, AND THEY WERE OK WITH IT.

VERY, VERY CONSISTENT WITH OTHER UPPER MULTI-STORY BUILDINGS AND CONSISTENT WITH THE FIRST THE GRANITE OF PHASE ONE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR BAKER? OK.

OK, GREAT.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? COME ON DOWN.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND IF YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING TO ADD TO DIRECTOR BAKER'S PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS AARON BIDNE, I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT FOR GRANITE PROPERTIES.

MY ADDRESS IS 9616 TRAILVIEW DRIVE IN DALLAS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING OUR CASE TONIGHT.

IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF HARD TO BELIEVE, AT LEAST HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN WE FINISHED THE FIRST PHASE.

THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR US.

IT TOOK A LITTLE LONGER TO LEASE UP THAN WE EXPECTED, BUT IT'S 100 PERCENT LEASED, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IN MULTI-TENANT OFFICE BUILDINGS NEVER HAPPENS AND WE GET MORE CALLS FOR THIS PROJECT THAN ANY OTHER BUILDING IN OUR PORTFOLIO.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING PHASE TWO TO SOUTHLAKE.

I'LL BE BRIEF.

I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER SLIDES.

YEAH, THIS WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING ANOTHER HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE TO SOUTHLAKE, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETING BLOCK 16.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR THE COMMUNITY WE WILL COMPLETE ALL THE SIDEWALKS AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS AROUND THE BLOCK.

WE'LL HAVE STREET PARKING AND STREET TREES, STREET LIGHTS THROUGHOUT OUR FRONTAGE AND ACROSS THE STREET AT MCPHERSON.

AND YOU KNOW, PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR EVERYBODY WE'LL BE COMPLETING THAT GARAGE AND GETTING RID OF THE TEMPORARY FAÃ♪ADE THAT'S ON THERE NOW.

FINALLY, AT THAT P&Z, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INTERSECTION AT 114 AND STATE.

THE CITY IS MOVING FORWARD WITH A PROJECT THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HELP THEM WITH AND CONSTRUCT AT THE SAME TIME.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO HELPING OUT WITH THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS OR STEP ASIDE, OK, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER? JUST ONE? WHAT IS ON THIS RENDERING HERE? I SEE SOME RED UMBRELLAS.

THAT IS THE FUTURE LOCATION FOR A RESTAURANT, AND THAT IS JUST STRICTLY A ARTIST'S RENDERING OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.

THE CONCEPT RIGHT THERE IS TO HAVE A PATIO SEATING OUTSIDE THE RESTAURANT.

IS THAT A FRANK BLISS VISION IS, WHAT THAT.

THAT IS A.

MAKING SURE I UNDERSTOOD.

COOPER COMPANY VISION.

SO ONCE THIS IS COMPLETED, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOUR SQUARE FOOTAGE OR PROPERTY WILL BE DONE FOR THE GRANITE AREA THERE? THIS WILL COMPLETE WHAT WE'VE GOT AGREED WITH COOPER COMPANY ON.

VERY GOOD.

SO THIS WILL CONCLUDE THAT NOW WE ARE DISCUSSING SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL PROJECTS FOR COOPER COMPANY.

WE LOVE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

THIS OFFICE MARKET WAS KIND OF PIONEERING WHEN WE DID THE FIRST BUILDING, BUT IT WAS MORE THAN PROVEN UP THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A SUCCESSFUL CLASS A OFFICE PROJECT.

SO YOU'RE CONFIDENT, THEN, THAT UPON COMPLETION, YOUR ENTIRE CAMPUS WILL BE FULLY LANDSCAPED LIKE THESE RENDERINGS?

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IT'LL BE FINISHED OUT VERY.

I MEAN, GRANTED, THE ABOVE GROUND PVC PIPES WAS RENOVATED, BUT.

RIGHT [LAUGHTER].

BUT I MEAN, AND YOU COULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING WE UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT IT REALLY TAKES ON THAT CAMPUS LOOK THAT I KNOW YOU WANT.

WE WANT THAT IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS.

WELL, LANDSCAPED.

YEAH, FINISHED.

YEAH, I MEAN, THERE WILL BE THE TWO, YOU KNOW, PAD SITES THAT WILL STILL BE THERE, BUT THE ON STREET PARKING IN FRONT OF THEM WILL BE COMPLETED.

THE STREET TREES WILL BE THERE, THE LIGHTING.

IT'LL BE READY TO PLUG AND PLAY ON SOME RESTAURANTS OR COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

SEVENTY PERCENT JOKING.

30 PERCENT SERIOUS ON THIS QUESTION.

OK, AS A TENANT OF YOUR EXISTING PHASE ONE BUILDING, I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE HAS A HELICOPTER THAT LIKES TO LAND ON THE EXISTING PAD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THIS ON CURRENTLY.

HAVE YOU GUYS CONTEMPLATED OR ENTERTAINED A HELIPAD ON THIS PROPERTY AT ALL? WE HAVE NOT CONTEMPLATED OR ENTERTAINED A HELITHE PAD.

YOU'RE GOING HAVE TO SELL THE HELICOPTER, CHAD.

SORRY.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OK, THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

OK, SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS.

I GUESS I CAN GO OPEN THEM ALL AT ONCE.

CAN'T I FOR SIX E AND SIX F.

OK, SO 6E AND 6F ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT 6G, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY WELCOME TO.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ALL THREE OF THESE ITEMS. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, NOW'S THE CHANCE.

ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND COUNCIL IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN.

WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE SUP TO FINISH THE GARAGE.

ANY ISSUES WE NEED TO SORT THROUGH BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE.

NO FEEL GOOD.

I'M JUST HAPPY TO SEE IT COMING TOGETHER, I LOVE THAT SPOT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THE DPS NORTH IS THAT NORTH? YEAH, DPS.

HQ.

I GET THEM WRONG.

THE HEADQUARTERS AND THAT BIG BLOCK PLOT OF LAND.

I WAS THINKING, I JUST IMAGINE A REALLY NICE BUILDING BEING THERE.

SO I LOVE THIS RENDERING.

SO EXCITING.

IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY GORGEOUS.

OK, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR, AND COUNCIL I MOVE, WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6C OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ZA21-0087, WHICH IS DEVELOPMENT PLAN SITE PLAN FOR GRANITE PLACE TWO, LOCATED AT 601 STATE STREET IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, WHICH IS THE CURRENT ZONING DT DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 30TH 2021 AND THE REVISED DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER THREE DATED NOVEMBER 29TH 2021 NOTING A COUPLE OF VARIANCES.

ONE THE DRIVEWAY STACKING DEPTH INTO THE LOADING SPACES, REFERRING TO THE DRIVEWAY STACKING DEPTH.

THE DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER 634 REQUIRES THERE TO BE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET OF STACKING DEPTH FOR ANY DRIVEWAY ON THE BLOCK 16 OF THE DEVELOPMENT HERE A STACKING DEPTH OF APPROXIMATELY 16 FEET IS REQUESTED FOR THE DRIVEWAY ON STATE STREET.

THEN, REGARDING THE LOADING SPACES ORDINANCE NUMBER FOUR EIGHT ZERO SECTION 37.4.K REQUIRES TWO REGULAR 10 FEET BY TWENTY FIVE FOOT LOADING SPACES FOR OFFICE BUILDINGS OF ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND TO TWO HUNDRED, AND FORTY NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED NINETY NINE SQUARE FEET.

THE ZONING OR THE VARIANCE REQUEST HERE IS FOR ONE 10 BY 50 FOOT LOADING SPACE TO BE PROVIDED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, AND THIS IS JUST FOR ITEM 6E, SO PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE, OK? ITEM SIX E-PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

GREAT WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM SIX F? YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX F OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS RESOLUTION NUMBER 21-050, WHICH IS ZA 21-0088, WHICH IS THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR GRANITE PLACE TWO PARKING GARAGE LOCATED AT 601 STATE STREET, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS CURRENT ZONING DT DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 30TH, 2021 AND THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED NOVEMBER 12, 2021.

THE VARIANCE HERE IS TO APPROVE ZONING ORDINANCE 480 SECTION 37.4.N TO ALLOW THE METAL PANELS TO MATCH THE PANELS ON THE EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE ON ITEM SIX F.

ALL RIGHT, ITEM SIX F PASSES 7 ZERO.

AND IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 6G? YES.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX G.

OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS MSP-0006 WHICH IS THE MASTER SIGN PLAN FOR GRANITE PLACE TWO, LOCATED AT 601 STATE STREET IN SOUTHLAKE.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 30TH OF 2021.

WE HAVE A MOTION IS THERE A SECOND.

SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OK AND ITEM SIX G PASSES.

SEVEN ZERO, CONGRATULATIONS.

APPRECIATE YOU GUYS WELCOME TO TOWN FOR A SECOND TIME.

WELL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL ITEM 6H KEN AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY NEEDS A

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[6.H. Ordinance No. 480-789, (ZA21-0089), 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Concept Plan for 1049 Shady Oaks Drive on property described as Tract 8A3, Thomas M. Hood Survey Abstract No. 706, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 1049 Shady Oaks Drive, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "AG" Agricultural District. Requested Zoning: "SF-1A" Single Family Residential District. SPIN Neighborhood #7. PUBLIC HEARING]

PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE.

PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

APPROVED IT FIRST READING 1.44 ACRES CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN MEETS THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE.

NO VARIANCES.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

ANY DISCUSSION.

IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME DOWN AND TALK.

IT SEEMS TO BE GOING WELL FOR YOU.

WE GOOD.