[2. SPIN2021-38 - An applicant is proposing to develop an approximately 13,000 sq. ft. addition to the existing building (Lonesome Dove Baptist Church) located at 2380 Lonesome Dove Rd. within SPIN Neighborhood #2.]

JASON STOVER IS HERE TO PRESENT THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN 2021 38.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP AN APPROXIMATELY 13,000 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO THE EXISTING BUILDING LONESOME DOVE BAPTIST CHURCH, LOCATED AT 2380 LONESOME DOVE ROAD.

ALL RIGHT WE'RE ON. OK, SO YEAH, GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS JASON STOVER, I'M THE LEAD PASTOR AT LONESOME DOVE BAPTIST CHURCH, ALSO KNOWN AS THE DOVE.

WE'RE AT 2380 LONESOME DOVE ROAD ON BEHALF OF THE CHURCH.

I'M PRESENTING TO YOU THE PLANNED EXPANSION OF OUR WORSHIP FACILITY, ITS 1300 SQUARE FOOT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THE MOUSE HERE, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE ADDITION RIGHT HERE. SO OUR CURRENT FACILITIES ARE DOVE HALL RIGHT HERE.

OUR WORSHIP CENTER AND OUR OFFICES.

THIS IS ALSO OUR PARSONAGE HERE IN THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THIS THIRTEEN THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT ADDITION IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING, ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL PARKING.

AS A CHURCH, WE'RE AT CAPACITY AND OUR CURRENT ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEAT WORSHIP CENTER. THE NEW WORSHIP CENTER WILL BE BUILT DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF OUR OFFICES LIKE I SHOWED YOU RIGHT THERE. IT WILL BE BUILT ON THE EXISTING PLAYGROUNDS.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA AND YOU DRIVE BY OUR LITTLE CHURCH CAMPUS, YOU'LL SEE THAT PLAYGROUND THAT'S EXISTING THERE.

THE NEW WORSHIP CENTER WILL BE BUILT DIRECTLY OVER THE PLAYGROUND.

OK, THE CAPACITY FOR THE WORSHIP CENTER WILL BE ABOUT THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE SEATS. THE PLAN IS FOR IT TO CONNECT WITH DOVE HALL RIGHT THERE, AS I SAID, AND ADDITIONAL PARKING.

SO THE DOVE HAS BEEN AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION SINCE 1846.

IN THE YEARS SINCE, COMMUNITIES THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE SPRUNG UP ALL AROUND.

WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD CHURCH AND WE'RE GLAD TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD CHURCH.

WE'RE THANKFUL FOR IT.

AND SO WITH THAT, WE WANT TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE EXPANSION, THE FEEL OF A NEIGHBORHOOD CHURCH. AND SO WE ENLISTED OWT ARCHITECTS WHO RECENTLY COMPLETED THE WESTIN AND SOUTH LAKE AND HAVE GREAT EXPERIENCES WITH CHURCHES LOOKING TO EXPAND WHILE KEEPING THE LOOK AND THE FEEL OF THE EXISTING CHURCH.

ONE EXAMPLE WOULD BE ST.

LAWRENCE CHURCH ON KIMBALL.

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OK.

HOW DO I ADVANCE THE NEXT SLIDE? OH, THAT'S SO COOL. LOOK AT THAT.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE BUILDING WILL BE THIRTEEN HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT, THIRTEEN THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT WITH AN EXTERIOR OF MIXTURE OF BRICK AND STONE MASONRY.

THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE WORSHIP CENTER WILL BE THIRTY TWO FEET, WHICH IS WELL BELOW HEIGHT ALLOWED BY ZONING.

IN REGARDS TO HOW CONSTRUCTION WILL LOOK, THE CITY WILL CONTROL THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR CONSTRUCTION. CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC CIVIL ENGINEER PERFORMED A TRAFFIC STUDY.

IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY THE CITY.

OUR HIGHEST TRAFFIC COUNT HAPPENS ON SUNDAY MORNINGS, AND SO THAT DOES NOT OCCUR DURING PEAK WORK TRAFFIC.

CURRENT ENTRANCES AND EXITS ARE MORE THAN ADEQUATE FOR THE EXPANSION, ACCORDING TO THE STUDY THAT HAS BEEN PERFORMED.

THE USE OF OUR PROPERTY IS NOT CHANGING, SO IT'S CONTINUE TO BE A CHURCH.

WE ARE GROWING, BUT THE USE OF OUR PROPERTY ISN'T CHANGING.

IT WILL BE USED FOR CHURCH PURPOSES FOR WORSHIP.

ANOTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT LIGHTING AND LIGHTING OVERFLOW FROM THE EXPANSION, AND ALL OF THAT WILL BE CONTROLLED BY CODE AND ZONING.

WE ARE ALSO CONSIDERING IF FUNDS ALLOW A FACELIFT ON THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, THE CURRENT WHITE BUILDINGS THERE ARE ALMOST 100 YEARS OLD.

THEY'RE NOT HISTORIC, THEY'RE NOT ORIGINAL.

THE ORIGINAL BUILDINGS WERE LOST IN A FIRE IN 1929.

AND SO IF YOU KNOW, IF FUNDS ALLOW, WE MIGHT DO A FACELIFT ON THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AS WELL. THE IMPROVEMENTS WITH MODERN CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN WILL INCREASE VALUES OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND US.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE MORE VIDEO AND MORE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE WWW.THEDOVECHURCH.COM, GREATER THINGS IS THE TAB AND YOU CAN SEE A FULL VIDEO RENDERING OF WHAT THE PROJECT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO CHECK THAT OUT.

THEN FINALLY, THE LAST QUESTION MAYBE THAT COMMON QUESTION IS DRAINAGE.

THE EXPANSION INCLUDES SEE THE SEE IF IT'S ON THERE, WELL, IT MUST NOT BE ON THERE.

OK, SO WE'LL PULL IT BACK UP HERE.

SO THE EXPANSION INCLUDES A DETENTION POND IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, AND IF YOU CAN SEE THE ARROW THERE, THE DETENTION POND WOULD BE RIGHT HERE IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER BEHIND THE HOUSE THERE, AND IT'S RECESSED ABOUT FIVE FEET, 30 INCH CONCRETE PIPE FROM THE POND TO LONESOME DOVE ROAD DRAINAGE DITCH.

SO THAT'S PLANNED FOR DRAINAGE.

FUTURE PLANS FOR THE CHURCH.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH OUR CHURCH OR NOT, BUT HERE ON THE NORTH SIDE IS A CEMETERY, SO THREE AND A HALF ACRES OF THE CHURCH IS ALREADY DEAD SPACE.

PUN INTENDED. OK, SO FUTURE PLANS.

HOW MUCH MORE COULD WE DO? POSSIBLY. AS I MENTIONED, WE MAY EVENTUALLY DEMOLISH THESE BUILDINGS AND BUILD ONE MORE FACILITY THAT WOULD CONNECT THE WORSHIP CENTER AND THE OLD WORSHIP CENTER.

BUT THAT'S JUST A POSSIBILITY.

OTHER THAN THAT, A LIFE SIZE NOAH'S ARK EXHIBIT IN 2023 WITH A TIGER KING PETTING ZOO.

BUT BESIDES THOSE THINGS, THAT'S ALL WE GOT.

SO ONLY KIDDING ABOUT THE PETTING ZOO AND THE ARK.

SO QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS FOR US? HOW ARE YOU DOING? HOW ARE YOU DOING? APPRECIATE YOU RESPONDING TO MY EMAIL.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE PARKING LOT? WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE PARKING LOT? YEAH, SO WE'LL EXPAND IT.

SO ON, SO IF YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE CURRENTLY THE PARKING RUNS RIGHT ALONG THERE.

AND SO THIS THIS BACK PORTION WILL BE EXPANDED.

AND WITH A FEW ADDITIONAL SPACES AROUND THE WORSHIP CENTER RIGHT THERE, AROUND THE SOUTH SIDE THERE. OK.

AND THEN YOU SAID THE DETENTION TIME IS GOING TO BE FIVE FEET DEEP.

YEAH, RECESSED FIVE FEET.

ARE YOU PLANNING ON EXTENDING THE PRIVACY FENCING THAT'S BY THE CEMETERY BACK AROUND TO THE SOUTH? AND THEN, I GUESS, THE SOUTH BOUNDARY AND THE WEST BOUNDARY? OR HOW IS THAT BEING PROTECTED? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE WORK THROUGH THINGS WITH THE CITY, WE'LL DO WHAT THEY RECOMMEND AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE UP FOR WHAT THEY RECOMMEND FOR SURE.

OK. HI.

I HAVE PROBABLY MORE COMMENTS THAN QUESTIONS.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME STUDYING YOUR PLAN.

IT'S INTERESTING.

I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON YOUR WEB SITE, BUT THE MAIN CONCERN SEEM TO BE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WORSHIP CAPACITY FOR THE CONGREGATION THAT YOU'RE SERVING NOW AND YOU'RE GROWING AND SO FORTH.

AND THE OBVIOUS QUESTION THAT NOBODY HAS SEEMED TO ASK OR ANSWER, ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE

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WEB SITE, IS WHY DON'T YOU JUST HOLD MORE SERVICES? I MEAN, GATEWAY HAS THREE SERVICES ON SATURDAY, THREE SERVICES ON SUNDAY.

YOU GUYS HAVE ONE SERVICE ON SUNDAY.

SO IF YOU HAD TWO OR DID A SATURDAY DID A SUNDAY, YOU COULD SOLVE YOUR CAPACITY PROBLEM MORE THAN LIKELY WITHOUT NEEDING A BUILDING THAT IS 6.5 TIMES THE SIZE OF MY HOUSE, WHICH, BY THE WAY, ABUTS YOUR PROPERTY.

I AM DIRECTLY BEHIND YOU, AS ARE SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE HERE.

I SEE THE PARKING PLANS.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER TWO OR THREE ROWS, BUT IT DOESN'T GIVE ME ANY CONTEXT TO WHERE MY HOUSE LINE IS.

THAT'S A CONCERN.

I DON'T WANT PARKING BUTTING UP AGAINST MY PROPERTY LINE PERIOD.

CONSTRUCTION NOISE.

I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THE CITY HAS GUIDELINES AND SO FORTH ON THIS.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ANY CONSTRUCTION NOISE.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF NEW HOME BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU.

YOU KNOW ABOUT IT.

OK. I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER THE MARIACHI BAND THAT WAS OPERATING FROM THE GHETTO BLASTERS IN THE NEW HOME THAT'S OVER THERE.

THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR WEEKS.

OK, WE DON'T NEED THIS NOISE POLLUTION.

THE LIGHT POLLUTION IS ALSO A CONCERN.

TRAFFIC CONGESTION, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'VE HAD STUDIES ON THIS BLAH BLAH BLAH, AND I ONLY HAVE TO MENTION GATEWAY CHURCH TO ANYBODY WHO'S EVER TRIED TO GO DOWN ONE 14 SERVICE ROAD WHEN THEY'RE GETTING OUT.

THEY HAVE TO HIRE OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS TO DIRECT TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING.

WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER MEGACHURCH HERE.

AND THE LAST POINT IS ONE OF STYLE.

I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT REDOING THE OLDER BUILDINGS.

I KNOW THOSE ARE NOT THE ORIGINAL BUILDINGS I'VE LIVED HERE THIRTY TWO YEARS, OK.

BUT WHAT YOU'VE GOT RIGHT NOW WITH THE OLDER BUILDINGS IN THE NEW BUILDINGS, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE A MODERN ART MASTERPIECE LIKE PICASSO'S GUERNICA AND GLUE IT TO GRANT WOOD'S AMERICAN GOTHIC.

STYLISTICALLY, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

I LIKE THE STYLE IN THE NEW BUILDING.

I LIKE THE STYLE OF THE OLD BUILDINGS.

BUT THIS CONGLOMERATION KIND OF SKETCHY.

BUT NUMBER ONE THING IS, I THINK IF YOU GUYS COULD OFFER MORE SERVICES, YOU COULD OBVIATE THIS ENTIRE THING AND SAVE EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN AN ADJACENT TO YOUR PROPERTY.

THE AGGRAVATION OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT CONSTRUCTION AND THE RISK OF ALL THE ADDITIONAL NOISE.

THANKS VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

I'M AUGUST [INAUDIBLE], I LIVE AT 1260 TAYLOR STREET, MY PROPERTY DOES NOT ABUT YOUR PROPERTY, BUT I AM WITHIN THREE HUNDRED FEET OF IT JUST TO THE WEST.

THERE'S ONE LOT IN BETWEEN.

THEN, MY NEIGHBOR THAT LIVES ON THAT LOT DANNY SHUGG AND SHE AND HER HUSBAND OWNED NOT ONLY THAT PROPERTY, BUT THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

SO THEY HAVE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ABUT YOURS, AND MOST OF MY COMMENTS ARE IN ARE COMPATIBLE WITH POINTS THAT SHE AND I HAVE DISCUSSED.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT.

BEFORE I ADDRESS THE CHURCH ITSELF, I ACTUALLY WANT TO ADDRESS THIS MEETING.

THIS IS A SPIN MEETING.

HISTORICALLY, SPIN MEETINGS HAVE PROVIDED FOR A NOTICE TO NEARBY RESIDENTS IN THE SPIN AREA. I RECEIVED NO NOTICE ABOUT THIS MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW OF [INAUDIBLE] MR. SHUGG IS THE ONLY OTHER PERSON I REALLY TALKED TO, AND SHE DID NOT RECEIVE A NOTICE ABOUT THIS MEETING, NEITHER A PHONE CALL NOR ANY KIND OF A WRITTEN NOTICE, AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE PROCEDURES IN THE CITY WHEN WHAT GOES OUT, WHEN, WHERE, OR WHY.

BUT WHY THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS CHANGE AND THERE'S ABOUT 10 OF THEM WHOSE PROPERTY ABUTS THIS PROPERTY.

WHY THEY WEREN'T NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS MEETING, TO ME, SEEMS A GROSS OVERSIGHT OR INTENTIONAL, MISLEADING THROUGH OMISSION.

AS FOR THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED, THE PARKING LOT.

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WELL, I'M GOING TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

I KIND OF WONDER WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.

HE MENTIONED A POSSIBILITY OF TURNING SOMETHING DOWN, REBUILDING LATER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I KIND OF WONDER WHAT NEXT STEPS WILL COME ON ONE AT A TIME, ONE AT A TIME, BECAUSE THE CHURCH, NOT ALL THAT LONG AGO DECIDED TO TAKE SOME OF ITS LAND AND HAVE IT CONVERTED TO ADDITIONAL CEMETERY SPACE.

AND I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MONEY RAISED FROM SELLING CEMETERY PLOTS IS PROBABLY A GOOD BIT OF THE MONEY THAT'S BEING USED IN ORDER TO FUND THIS.

SO A LED TO B, WHICH LEADS SOMETIMES TO C OR TO D, HE SAID, TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY REGARDING LIGHTING.

THAT PARKING LOT IS A VERY LARGE PARKING LOT.

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CLOSE TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

I IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT LIGHTING ON THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORS LIVE IN THE AREA ARE GOING TO OBJECT STRENUOUSLY TO FLOOD LIGHTING ON THAT PROPERTY.

ANOTHER THING IS BECAUSE NOW IT'S POSSIBLE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT CHURCH AND PARTICULARLY TEENAGERS, ARE KNOWN TO DO ALL KINDS OF STUFF, INCLUDING SOME AREAS THAT ARE NEAR THAT CHURCH WHERE THEY LIKE TO GO, RUN DONUTS AND THE LIKES.

THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT PEOPLE AND YES, GRANTED PROBABLY TEENAGERS DECIDING TO DRIVE AROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND, OK.

AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST INSTEAD OF HAVING, AMONG OTHER THINGS, BESIDES ALLOWING FOR TRAFFIC TO FLOW THE WHOLE WAY AROUND, THAT AT THE VERY LEAST, THAT BACK LOT HAVE A BRAKE, SOLID BRAKE IN IT.

SO PEOPLE HAVE TO GO BACK THERE TO PARK.

THEY GO AROUND THIS WAY TO PARK AND BACK OUT AND THIS WAY TO PARK AND BACK OUT.

BUT THEY CAN'T CIRCLE CONTINUOUSLY THROUGH.

SO LIGHTING, TRAFFIC, THE ARCHITECTURAL THING SURELY LOOKS LIKE A ARCHITECTURAL MISFIT IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THIS FACILITY AND THE OLD FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE.

THE ADDITIONAL SEATING THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITH THIS LARGER FACILITY AND WITH MULTIPLE THINGS PERHAPS GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.

ONE COULD EASILY FORESEE THAT THERE COULD BE FOUR OR FIVE, MAYBE EVEN SIX HUNDRED PEOPLE PRESENT AT THE TIME.

IF YOU HAVE FIVE HUNDRED PEOPLE THERE AND FIGURE AN AVERAGE OF TWO PEOPLE PER CAR, THAT'S 250 PARKING PLACES, WHICH YOU AREN'T EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO HAVING, I DON'T BELIEVE HOW MANY PARKING PLACES ARE ESTIMATED ON YOUR CURRENT PLANS.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW. OFF THE TOP, MY HEAD, THE EXACT NUMBER.

THIS CURRENT PARKING WILL TAKE CARE OF THE THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEAT WORSHIP CENTER, THOUGH. AND SO AND OF COURSE, THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON THE TWO LANE LONESOME DOVE ROAD, I'M CERTAIN, IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WHO COME AND GO THERE ARE GOING TO APPRECIATE IT. BY THE WAY, THERE IS A MISREPRESENTATION BY CALLING THAT A PARSONAGE BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THAT'S NOT BEING USED AS A PARSONAGE.

THAT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY FOR YOU, PEOPLE.

AND THE LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE THAT I HAVE.

CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL YOUR PLANS ARE FOR DOING THINGS IN ANY CASE, CERTAINLY WITH A LARGER GROUP. AND IF YOU PLAN ANY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES AND AMPLIFICATION, IT'S BAD ENOUGH WHEN OVER AT METAL [INAUDIBLE] PARK, WHICH IS OVER A MILE AWAY, THEY DECIDE TO HAVE ROCK BANDS PLAYING INTO THE NIGHT AND MY WINDOWS ARE VIBRATING BECAUSE OF IT.

I WOULD SAY THAT I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU'RE NOT PLANNING ON HAVING ANY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES WITH AMPLIFICATION, ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT OFF ANYHOW.

SO I HAVE SIGNIFICANT RESERVATIONS ABOUT WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AND I GUESS ENOUGH SAID.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS A QUESTION? HELLO, MY NAME IS SUSAN HARDING.

I'M A NEIGHBOR OF YOURS, BUT IN THE OTHER DIRECTION AND I ATTEND DOVE.

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I'VE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR 17 YEARS, SO NOT QUITE AS LONG AS SOME OF YOU I KNOW, BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN THE AREA [INAUDIBLE].

SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND ALSO HEARD THE MARIACHI BAND IS DIRECTLY BEHIND MY HOUSE. SO I UNDERSTAND.

BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THIS IS A FAMILY CHURCH AND WE DON'T REALLY GO IN FOR HAVING LOTS OF, YOU KNOW, LATE NIGHT ACTIVITY.

SORRY, WE DON'T HAVE LOTS OF LATE NIGHT.

WE'RE NOT A GATEWAY.

WE'RE A SMALL CHURCH, AND A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND ARE PROBABLY THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE HOPING WOULD COME TO THE NEW FACILITIES.

AND LIKE ME, THEY CAN PROBABLY WALK TO CHURCH.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS, BUT I THINK THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BECOME A HUGE SERVICE. AND SOMEONE MENTIONED BEFORE THE MULTIPLE SERVICES MY HUSBAND SERVES ON THE WORSHIP BAND, AND I THINK WE AGREE.

WE'VE BEEN TO OTHER CHURCHES THAT HAVE MULTIPLE SERVICES AND YOU LOSE THE FAMILY FEEL OF THIS, OF THE CHURCH.

AT THE MOMENT, WE CAN ALL WORSHIP TOGETHER AND HAVE THAT TIME AND GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER, AND I THINK WE WOULD LOSE SOME OF THAT.

SO WE'RE REALLY NOT TRYING TO GET TO THAT MEGACHURCH STAND.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE A LITTLE LOCAL CHURCH AND THIS WILL HELP BECAUSE THE AREA IS GROWING AROUND US. THANK YOU.

JUST BRIEFLY, RATHER THAN DO SUCH A GREAT EXPANSION OF PARKING IN THE BACK, WHICH IS CLOSE TO A NUMBER OF RESIDENCES.

WHY ARE YOU NOT LOOKING AT EXPANDING THE PARKING IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH ON THE STREET SIDE? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE THE MULTIPLE? EXCUSE ME, SIR, CAN YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? THANK YOU. WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, GIVING YOU COMMENTS, BUT WE'RE NOT HEARING ANYTHING BACK. YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO.

SO WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION FOR ME ON THE MULTIPLE SERVICES? YEAH, WHY HAVEN'T YOU CONSIDERED THAT AS AN OBVIOUS SOLUTION? YEAH, AND I GET THE FAMILY THING.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING THREE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT? DUNBAR'S NUMBERS ABOUT FIFTY NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU CAN KIND OF REALLY KNOW VERY WELL.

SO THREE FIFTY IS SEVEN TIMES DUNBAR'S NUMBER.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING 350 IN AT ONE TIME IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR A PARTICULAR FAMILY ATMOSPHERE AND IT SOLVES YOUR PROBLEM OF OVERCAPACITY.

SO WHAT? WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE THAT? YEAH, THE ANSWER IS IT'S A THEOLOGICAL REASON FOR US.

WE BELIEVE THE CHURCH, ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE, IS THE GATHERED CHURCH, SO WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF OTHER CHURCHES THAT HAVE MULTIPLE SERVICES.

WELL, THOSE FOLKS BE IN HEAVEN.

YES, THEY'LL BE AT THE BACK OF THE LINE, BUT THEY'LL BE IN HEAVEN.

OK, SO WE WE APPRECIATE CHURCHES THAT DO THAT.

BUT WE'RE A SMALL FAMILY CHURCH AS A CHURCH WHERE PEOPLE KNOW THE PASTOR'S NAME, THEY GET HIS CELL NUMBER, THEY GET HIS EMAIL WHERE AND WHEN YOU BEGIN TO DO MULTIPLE SERVICES.

NO MATTER HOW YOU, YOU CUT IT.

IT'S NOT ONE CHURCH.

AND SO IT'S A THEOLOGICAL POSITION FOR US AND IT COULD SAVE US MONEY TO DO THAT.

BUT WE ARE FOLLOWING OUT OUR THEOLOGICAL BELIEFS BASED ON THE TEACHING OF SCRIPTURE.

THAT'S WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO.

AND THAT'S QUITE FRANKLY ALSO WHY THE CHURCH IS GROWING.

BECAUSE WHY WOULD SOMEBODY GO PAST A VERY LARGE CHURCH AND DRIVE TO OUR LITTLE CHURCH? IT'S BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE KNOWN, THEY WANT TO BE MISSED WHEN THEY'RE GONE.

AND SO THAT'S THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND WHY, YOU KNOW, WE DO A SINGLE SERVICE ON SUNDAY MORNINGS. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE'VE RECEIVED TWO ONLINE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AS WELL.

OK. THE FIRST ONE IS FROM DANIELLE SHUGG, WHO APOLOGIZES FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY FOR A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT BUT APPRECIATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT COMMENTS.

SHE SAYS MY FAMILY AND I LIVE IN ONE OF THE HOMES DIRECTLY BEHIND THE CHURCH, WHERE THE PROPOSED NEW ADDITION WOULD BE LOCATED.

WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT, BOTH IN SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.

IN ADDITION, THE RENDERING AVAILABLE ON THE CHURCH'S WEBSITE SHOWS THAT THE PARKING LOT WILL SURROUND THE BUILDING, RESULTING IN MUCH MORE NOISE, TRAFFIC AND LIGHTING BACKING UP TO OUR HOMES. IS THERE A WAY TO MINIMIZE THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS ANY NEW PARKING TO BE ADDED ONLY TO THE STREET SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND NOT BACKING UP TO THE EXISTING HOMES? AND THE FIRST PART OF THAT QUESTION WAS WHAT AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE.

SO MY FAMILY AND I LIVE IN ONE OF THE HOMES DIRECTLY BEHIND THE CHURCH WHERE THE PROPOSED NEW ADDITION WOULD BE LOCATED.

WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE, THE HEIGHT OF THE WORSHIP CENTER.

YES. SO I MENTIONED THAT IN MY OPENING COMMENTS.

THE HEIGHT OF THE WORSHIP CENTER WILL PEAK AT THIRTY TWO FEET, WHICH IS WELL BELOW CODE,

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IN ZONING REGULATIONS, SO IT'S WELL BELOW THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE AREA.

SO THAT ALLOWS US TO KIND OF KEEP THAT THAT FEEL.

PARKING, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING THAT WE NEED, THAT'S NEEDED FOR IT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANOTHER SPACE FOR IT TO THE NORTH.

THERE IS THE CEMETERY AND THE PARKING IN THE BACK IS REALLY WHERE THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING AND THE FLOW OF OUR CHURCH, THE WAY IT WORKS, MOST OF OUR PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE BACK ANYWAYS, AS IT IS NOW.

AND SO THIS ADDITION WILL BE IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE MOUSE IS HERE.

THIS THIS WHITE ADDITION HERE CONNECTS OUR ENTIRE CHILDREN'S WING WITH OUR WORSHIP CENTER. AND SO THIS IS THE CENTRAL DROP OFF POINT FOR EVERYONE IN OUR CHURCH.

AND SO THE PARKING RIGHT AT THE CENTRAL DROP OFF POINT IS CRUCIAL TO THAT.

AND SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE PLAN.

WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE FROM TIM BURT.

WILL A SIDEWALK BE INSTALLED ALONGSIDE OF LONESOME DOVE ROAD, STARTING AT THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY BORDER AND EXTENDING TO THE NORTH SIDE OF LONESOME DOVE CEMETERY? I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I'M GOING TO BE THE ONE TO ASK ON THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE UP FOR WHATEVER THE CITY WANTS TO DO WITH THAT. IT WOULD BE NICE FOR PEDESTRIANS TO HAVE A SAFE PASSAGEWAY ON LONESOME DOVE ROAD WITH INCREASED SUBCONTRACTOR TRAFFIC.

WITH THIS PROPOSAL IN COMBINATION WITH GRAPEVINES FERGUSON PLACE DEVELOPMENT BY [INAUDIBLE] HOLMES, WE'LL BRING.

YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE. YEAH, YEAH.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALK BUILT IN OUR PLANS, BUT YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE CITY WANTS TO DO. OK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RYAN PEABODY AND GRAYSON [INAUDIBLE] HERE TO PRESENT.

OH, SORRY. IT'S THE NEXT ONE, I'M SORRY.

[3. SPIN2021-39 - An applicant is proposing to develop an approximately 4,000 sq. ft. fuel and convenience store concept (QuikTrip) located at 110 W. Southlake Blvd. within SPIN Neighborhood #7]

COREY VAUGHN AND CRAIG HONEYWELL ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN 2021 39.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP AN APPROXIMATELY 4000 SQUARE FOOT FUEL AND CONVENIENCE STORE CONCEPT LOCATED AT 110 WEST SALT LAKE BOULEVARD.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.

WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR HEARING OUR PRESENTATION. I AM COREY VAUGHN.

I'M THE REAL ESTATE PROJECT MANAGER FOR QUICK TRIP, AND THIS IS MY COUNTERPART, CRAIG, HONEYWELL. HE'S ALSO A REAL ESTATE PROJECT MANAGER FOR A QUICK TRIP.

WE'RE LOCATED AT 1120 INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY ONE QUICK TRIP HERE IN EXISTING ONE IN SOUTH LAKE, WHICH WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE AND WE'RE EXCITED TO INTRODUCE ANOTHER QUICK TRIP TO THE AREA.

THE EXISTING QUICK TRIP IS ON SOUTH WEST SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD AND COMMERCE STREET.

THAT.

THANK YOU. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT A QUICK TRIP, WE ARE GREAT COMPANY.

WE OFFER A LOT OF VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY AND I PERSONALLY WORK FOR QUICK TRIP BECAUSE IT PROVIDES THEIR EMPLOYEES THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW AND SUCCEED WITHIN THE COMPANY.

WE ALSO OFFER THINGS LIKE SCHOLARSHIP AND TUITION REIMBURSEMENT TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

WE'RE STILL A PRIVATELY OWNED COMPANY AS WELL.

AND OUR PROPOSAL IS TO BUILD ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH LAKE 1709 AND WHITE CHAPEL DOWN IN THE CORNER RIGHT HERE, JUST LOCATED IN FRONT OF THE TOM THUMB, WHERE AN EXISTING SEA STORE IS, THIS IS THE CURRENT CONDITION OF WHERE THE PROPOSED PROPERTY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP A SECOND LOCATION IS EXISTING.

THERE IS ALSO A CAR WASH HERE ON THAT CORNER.

THIS IS BRIEFLY A SITE PLAN OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.

WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD IN THE HARD CORNER.

WE'VE PROPOSED AND THIS IS JUST CONCEPTUAL TO WE WORKED ON DIFFERENT SITE PLANS TO TRY TO PUSH OUR BUILDING IN THE HARD CORNER OF THIS INTERSECTION, TURNING IT BACKWARDS SO IT IS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND ALLOW FOR EASY MANEUVERABILITY.

CURRENTLY, THIS IS A SIGN THAT IS LOCATED AT THAT INTERSECTION AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SIGN THAT WE HAVE AGAIN CONCEPTUALLY.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANY COMMENTS AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES TO DEVELOP A CONCEPT THAT FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS OUR BRAND EXCELLENCE.

SO HERE WE HAVE THE FIRST GEN THREE MINI THAT WILL BE OFFERED THERE.

ONLY TWO OF THESE THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE, IT'S A SMALLER FOOTPRINT BECAUSE OF THE SITE IS SMALLER AND IT'S NOT LIKE ANY OTHER THING THAT WE'VE BUILT BEFORE.

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AGAIN, THIS IS A CONCEPT AND WE WOULD AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORS TO GET INPUT TO SEE HOW THIS WILL FIT IN A DEVELOPMENT.

NEXT, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT, WE WILL OFFER THE FOOD OFFERS THAT WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE OUR CUSTOMERS WITH, LIKE IN THE OTHER QUIKTRIP STORES WE HAVE.

OUR FRESH FOOD PRODUCT, WHICH WE'RE EXPANDING OUT TO MADE TO ORDER SANDWICHES TO GO, WE ALSO HAVE FRESH BREAKFAST ITEMS AS WELL AS PIZZA AND THE SANDWICHES THAT WE MADE READY TO ORDER. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THIS IS THE TIME THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR ANY INPUT BECAUSE WE ARE EXCITED TO DEVELOP HERE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

THANK YOU. THIS ITEM IS NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

HOW MANY PUMPS? AND I'LL RECAP, JUST SINCE IT WASN'T ON THE MICROPHONE.

THE GENTLEMAN ASKED HOW MANY PUMPS WE HAVE AT THIS LOCATION? THAT IS, IT'S CURRENTLY CONCEPTUAL.

IT'D BE FOR THIS SITE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT NO MORE THAN SEVEN PUMPS, WHICH IS NO MORE THAN 14 CAR SERVICE, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE OWNERS OF THE TOM THUMB RIGHT THERE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT TO KIND OF MAKE SURE WE'RE A GOOD FIT FOR THE PROPERTY AS A WHOLE AND FUNCTION WELL WITH THE CURRENT DYNAMIC THERE.

WOULD THIS BE A 24/7? YES, IT WOULD BE NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR US, IT IS A UNIQUE STORE, WHICH WE ARE EXCITED TO TRY TO BRING THE FIRST ONE TO THE DFW MARKET, BUT IT WOULD BE OUR NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR OTHER STORES.

CORRECT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WE APPRECIATE IT. THANKS, EVERYONE.

[4. SPIN2021-40 - An applicant is proposing a zoning change to allow for an existing commercial kitchen to be used for a catering business located at 1800 E. State Hwy 114 within SPIN Neighborhood #4.]

RICHARD WILLIAMS IS HERE TO PRESENT THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN 2021 40.

THIS APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A ZONING CHANGE TO ALLOW FOR AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL KITCHEN TO BE USED FOR CATERING BUSINESS LOCATED AT 800 EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114.

THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT PLAN, HOW DO WE GET THE RIGHT DRAWING UP HERE? IT'S NOT THE RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I'M RICHARD WILLIAMS WITH OWT ARCHITECTS.

WE'RE AT 509 PECAN STREET IN FORT WORTH.

AND HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS ZONING CASE RELATED TO AN EXISTING THIRTY THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT'S LOCATED AT 1800 HUNDRED E.

STATE HIGHWAY 114.

SPECIFICALLY, THE ZONING IS NECESSARY SO THAT WE CAN USE THIS COMMERCIAL KITCHEN THAT'S LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THIS EXISTING BUILDING.

PREVIOUSLY, THIS EXISTING COMMERCIAL KITCHEN WAS USED FOR BASICALLY RETAIL DEMONSTRATIONS FOR A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN VENDOR.

AND NOW WE HAVE A CATERING BUSINESS THAT IS LOOKING TO MOVE IN AND USE THAT SPACE FOR COMMERCIAL KITCHEN USE.

THESE DRAWINGS SHOW SOME ELEVATION FAÇADE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE PROJECT, EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS HERE.

IT'S AN EXISTING METAL PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING.

AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDING THIS FAÇADE IMPROVEMENT, SOME ARTICULATION HERE, RAISING AND CREATING A PARAPET CONDITION WITH SOME AWNINGS AND SOME STUCCO HERE TO CONTRAST WITH THE THE METAL PANEL.

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HIGHWAY 114.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY BETTER SEEN HERE IN SOME RENDERINGS.

YEAH, HERE WE GO. SO THESE ARE THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE AS WELL.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO TO SAY.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THIS ITEM IS NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION OR ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE RYAN PEABODY AND GRAYSON [INAUDIBLE] HERE TO PRESENT THE FINAL

[5. SPIN2021-41 - An applicant is proposing to subdivide an existing lot into two (2) separate lots located at 325 Pine Dr. within SPIN Neighborhood #9]

ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN TWENTY 2021 41.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE AN EXISTING LOT INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS, LOCATED AT 325 PINE DRIVE.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS RYAN PEABODY.

I'M HERE IN ATTENDANCE WITH MY DAD, LARRY PEABODY AND MY BROTHER, TYLER PEABODY.

AND WE PURCHASED THE FOUR AND A HALF ACRES OFF OF PINE DRIVE.

NOT THIS PAST NOVEMBER, BUT NOVEMBER 2020.

THE PROPERTY.

CAN WE PULL UP THE MAP OR DO I NEED TO DO IT? IS THIS IT RIGHT HERE? OK.

OK, THANK YOU. OK.

OR YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT BIG OR I COULD DO IT.

NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. GIVE ME A SECOND.

I WASN'T CONTROLLING IT. IT'S OK.