6. Consider: Resolution No. 22-026, (ZA22-0043), Specific Use Permit for West Coast Exotics Texas, LLC to allow sales and service of new and/or used automobiles, trucks or motorhomes on property described as Lot 2R1R1, Block 5, Cornerstone Business Park Addition, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 405 S. Nolen Drive, Suite 200, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING

[6. Consider: Resolution No. 22-026, (ZA22-0043), Specific Use Permit for West Coast Exotics Texas, LLC to allow sales and service of new and/or used automobiles, trucks or motorhomes on property described as Lot 2R1R1, Block 5, Cornerstone Business Park Addition, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 405 S. Nolen Drive, Suite 200, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

FIRST ITEM ON THAT IS ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS A SPECIAL SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR WEST COAST EXOTICS, TEXAS CARD AUTOMOTIVE SALES AND SERVICES FOR NEW AND USED AUTOMOBILES.

AND I KNOW, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DID HEAR ALL THE PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING IN OUR IN OUR WORK SESSION.

SO I GUESS, DENNIS, MAYBE IF YOU JUST KIND OF HIT ON THE HIGHLIGHTS REAL QUICK AND THEN WE'LL GET IT.

CERTAINLY, YEAH. THIS REQUEST IS ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 405 SOUTH NOLAN DRIVE.

THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW INDOOR SALES AND SERVICE OF EXOTIC, HIGH END, CLASSIC AND UNIQUE NEW AND OR USED AUTOMOBILES WITHIN THEIR FOR A PERIOD WITHIN THEIR INITIAL THREE YEAR LEASE TERM, AND THEN TO ALLOW SUBSEQUENT THREE OR FIVE YEAR EXTENSIONS OF THE TERM OF THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BASED ON THEIR OCCUPANCY UNDER THE LEASE.

AND I WILL JUST MAYBE JUMP TO THEIR FLOORPLAN AND THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION BASIC DESCRIPTION THAT WE WENT OVER AND WORK SESSION AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, OTHERWISE I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SO FAR? ALL RIGHT. WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CALL YOU BACK.

DENNIS. THANK YOU.

NOW WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME UP, PLEASE.

STATE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

I THINK YOU'VE BEEN HERE ONCE OR TWICE.

MY NAME'S DEBORAH PERRYMAN WITH SILVER COMMERCIAL, AND I'M REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR 405 SOUTH MIDLAND AND ALSO THE TENANT.

AND WE COME THIS AFTERNOON OR THIS EVENING, I SHOULD SAY, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE APPLICATION.

AND MY ADDRESS IS 2805 MARKET LOOP, SUITE 104 THANK YOU FOR KEEPING ME OUT OF TROUBLE.

YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, I GUESS AS WELL.

FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. I'M ADRIAN FRANK AND I'M ONE OF THE THE CO-OWNER OF WEST COAST EXOTICS, TEXAS.

SO THE APPLICANT ALSO REPRESENTED THOUGH, BY DEBORAH AND MY HOME ADDRESS, FIVE 705 MOORE LAKE COURT IN COLLIERVILLE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. INTERESTING.

INTERESTING NAME. I WASN'T SURE WEST COAST, TEXAS, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S A REASONING FOR IT.

I GUESS MAYBE WE CAN JUST LAUNCH RIGHT INTO QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE COMMISSION.

I GUESS. I KNOW THERE WERE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP AND WORK SESSION ABOUT KIND OF SCALE AND HOURS AND ACTIVITIES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS TO ASK ANY OF THOSE DIRECTLY OR I CAN ASK IT DIRECTLY IF ANYONE WANTS TO JUMP IN.

I THINK WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO GET AN IDEA ABOUT THAT.

WE CAN KIND OF TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME.

JUST WE'VE GOT THE HOURS ON HERE, I'M ASSUMING.

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YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE IN TERMS OF.

PRIMARILY WEEKDAY, I GUESS CLOSED SUNDAY.

OFFICE AND SHOWROOM, PRIMARILY DAYTIME, IT LOOKS LIKE IS THAT IT IS PRIMARILY AND PART OF THE HOURS ARE RELATED TO THE ACTUAL LICENSE REQUIREMENTS. SO BECAUSE THIS IS A HIGH END LOCATION, IT'S AN INDOOR SHOWROOM.

SO THERE IS NO OUTDOOR STORAGE, NO CARS PARKED IN THE PARKING LOT.

SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF JUST DRIVE BY TRAFFIC KIND OF INTEREST.

AND BASED ON THE VALUE OF THESE VEHICLES, IT'S PRIMARILY BY APPOINTMENT, BUT IT IS REQUIRED TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ACCORDING TO THE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.

AND ROUGHLY HOW MANY CARS? I MEAN, THE RANGE.

YEAH. SO THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GO THROUGH AND DETERMINE THAT BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE FLOORPLAN, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 2700 SQUARE FEET IN THE OPEN, LARGE OPEN AREA IN THE BACK AND ABOUT ANOTHER 1600 THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE PRIME SHOWROOM AREA. THE PRIOR TENANT USED THAT AS A TRAINING AREA AND SO DEPENDING ON HOW THE THE SIZE OF EACH OF THESE VEHICLES WILL DETERMINE HOW THEY CAN BE LAID OUT.

AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE RELATED BUSINESS OUT IN CALIFORNIA, YOU'VE GOT CARS THAT ARE ANGLED.

THIS IS A SET. THE PICTURES THERE THAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE FROM A 70,000 SQUARE FOOT SHOWROOM.

THIS IS ONLY 6400 SQUARE FEET.

SO IT COULD BE AS FEW AS TEN CARS.

AND WE DON'T KNOW THE MEXICAN BIT IN THERE AND CONTINUE TO HAVE A ROOM TO WALK AROUND.

AND THAT MIGHT BE WHAT I WOULD.

AND WE'LL SEE HOW THIS DISCUSSION GOES.

BUT ENCOURAGE FOR POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS IS MAYBE HAVING A LITTLE BETTER IDEA JUST HOW MANY ROUGHLY WE LAID OUT.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD BE OF INTEREST AND THEN JUST ACTIVITIES INSIDE OF THE SPACE.

I MEAN, IS IT ANTICIPATED THAT THERE WILL BE TEST DRIVING OF THE AUTOMOBILES? WILL THERE BE WORK BEING DONE ON THE AUTOMOBILES AND HERE WILL THERE BE.

LIKE ITS ENGINE NOISES.

I MEAN, JUST WHAT? I MEAN, JUST KNOWING THIS IS A MULTI TENANT BUILDING.

YOU'VE GOT TENANTS ON EITHER SIDE OF YOU THAT IF THINGS ARE EITHER TOO NOISY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE.

COMMENTS AND WE WORK THROUGH SOME OF THAT UP FRONT JUST TO MAKE SURE SO THAT THIS WASN'T A LOCATION WHERE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE REVVING ENGINES INSIDE AND DOING SOME SORT OF. TESTING OF THE MOTORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YEAH, IT IS A SHOWROOM.

YEAH, IT'S A SHOWROOM.

SO I MEAN TEST DRIVES WOULD BE DONE ON THE STREET, WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THESE VEHICLES THAT YOU SEE DRIVING BY NOW.

I MEAN IF YOU GO STAND IN THE PARKING LOT OF THIS LOCATION FOR A HALF AN HOUR, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THESE TYPE OF CARS DRIVE BY ANYWAY.

SO THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S EXISTING IN SOUTH LAKE NOW.

ANYWAY, IN THIS LOCATION, YOU SEE THESE TYPE CARS DRIVE BY IF YOU STAND THERE FOR HALF AN HOUR.

SO THE TEST DRIVES ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.

SOMEBODY WANTS TO TAKE A CAR AROUND THE BLOCK.

IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALLOW ANY ERRATIC DRIVING, REVVING, THINGS LIKE THAT ANYWAY.

RIGHT. THESE ARE HIGH END CLIENTS, HIGH END CARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SELLING TO KIDS OR ALLOWING TEST DRIVES.

HOW OFTEN DO YOU THINK YOU'D BE TAKING THESE OUT FOR TEST DRIVES? LIKE HOW MANY PER DAY? LIKE A HANDFUL. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A PER DAY BECAUSE I MEAN, CARS I MEAN, A LOT OF CARS THAT WE SELL, YOU KNOW, WE DELIVER OR WE DON'T EVEN TEST DRIVE.

IT'S JUST YEAH, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE.

OH, PEOPLE JUST COME AND PICK THEM UP OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO YEAH, A LOT OF CARS DON'T EVEN GET GET DRIVEN.

A LOT OF THESE CLIENTS THAT WE HAVE ARE REPEAT CLIENTS ANYWAY.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A THIS IS OUR CALIFORNIA SHOWROOM, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF CLIENTS ALREADY IN TEXAS OR LOCAL THAT WE DEAL WITH ALREADY THAT ARE EXISTING AND REPEAT CLIENTS SO THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.

WE FIND THEM A CAR, WE'LL HAVE A CAR.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO COME PICK IT UP.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TEST DRIVING THESE CARS ANYWAY.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO COME GET IT.

WE'RE NOT A REPAIR SHOP.

SO, I MEAN, IF WE GET A CAR IN AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE, YOU KNOW, CONDITION IT FOR SOMETHING, WE MIGHT DO THAT.

BUT WE'RE NOT A REPAIR SHOP, SO WE'RE NOT A MECHANIC SHOP.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TEARING DOWN AN ENGINE IN THIS SPACE AND THEN WORKING ON IT WHERE YOU THINK ABOUT A MECHANIC SHOP WHERE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY TESTING AND REVVING THE CAR. I'M WORKING ON IT TO MAKE NOISE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING ANY OF THAT TYPE OF THING IN THIS SPACE.

THIS IS A SALES SPACE, A SHOWROOM.

THIS IS NOT A REPAIR SHOP.

OKAY. AND REMIND ME, I GUESS YOU REPRESENT OWNERSHIP, CORRECT, FOR THE WHOLE BUILDING.

OKAY. OKAY. SO OBVIOUSLY, THE OWNER'S MOTIVATING THE LINE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITHIN THE BUILDING AS WELL.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE THERE'S A SHOWROOM AREA GOING TO BE AIR CONDITIONED.

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IT IS. AND IT'S PRESENTLY AIR CONDITIONED.

AND ARE YOU HAVING TO ARE YOU HAVING TO ADD ANY EXTRA VENTILATION BECAUSE OF EXHAUST FUMES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IS THERE ANY HAS THERE BEEN ANY TALK ABOUT THAT? THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY ANTICIPATED NEED.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE YOU'VE GOT 20 CARS THAT ARE BEING TURNED ON AND AND JUST IDLING INSIDE.

IT'S THE SHOWROOM. SO THIS IS NOT.

AND SO FOR YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE DOING DELIVERIES AND DROPPING THEM OFF.

I MEAN, SO WHERE ARE YOU ENVISIONING THAT THE CAR CARRIERS WOULD PULL IN SO YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF SPACE IN THE BACK LOT OR WHEREVER THAT AN 18 WHEELER CAN GET IN THERE TO MOVE CARS.

SO IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I MADE WITH SPIN AND PROVIDED STAFF, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A LARGE DRIVE ON THE BACK SIDE.

THERE'S ALSO A BELOW GRADE DOCK HIGH FOR THIS LOCATION, WHICH IS UNUSUAL IN SOUTH LAKE.

SO WE HAVE THE GRADE LEVEL OVERHEAD DOORS, BUT THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM FOR IF AN 18 WHEELER VERSUS A BOX TRUCK WAS TO NEED TO COME THROUGH.

THERE'S FULL CIRCULATION TOTALLY AROUND THE BUILDING.

THERE'S ANOTHER BUILDING DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT IS A RESTORATION COMPANY.

IT'S ABOUT 22,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO THERE IS THE FULL DRIVE LANE AS WELL AS PARKING ON EITHER SIDE.

AND SO IT WAS DESIGNED TO ALLOW FOR A FULL CIRCULATION.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND I GUESS. I THINK MAYBE WITH THIS ONE, I GUESS WE'LL SEE AND WE CAN TALK TO THE COMMISSION.

BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF A TERM ON THIS, MAYBE YOUR PRIMARY LEASE TERMS, THREE YEARS.

SO TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO, WE TYPICALLY DO A 3 TO 5 YEAR TERM.

SO INITIALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT A THREE YEAR TERM WITHIN TWO RENEWAL OPTIONS AND WE REFLECTED BOTH A THREE AND A FIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE TESTING OUT THIS MARKET TO DETERMINE THIS WAS A PRIME LOCATION THAT THEY CHOSE WITHIN THE DFW AREA.

AND SO AT THE TIME OF RENEWAL, THEN IT COULD BE EITHER A THREE OR FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE LATITUDE WITH AN SUP TO DO REALLY ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO WE'LL SEE LATER TONIGHT, TEN PLUS.

SO WE'VE GOT A LATITUDE EITHER WAY.

TYPICALLY, WE'LL GO ON THE MUCH LOWER END FOR KIND OF AN INITIAL SUP JUST TO SEE HOW THINGS GO.

AND THEN FROM THERE, AS THINGS SEEM TO PROVE OUT, WE'LL GO HIGHER, WHICH OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS KIND OF THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

SO, I MEAN, HERE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE LIKE AN INITIAL THREE YEAR TERM, JUST PERIOD AND JUST SEE HOW THINGS GO.

AND IF THINGS GO WELL, THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IT SHOULD BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD FROM THERE.

IS THAT. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE WE WILL DELIBERATE IN THE SECOND WE'VE GOT TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING.

BUT THAT WAS THE OTHER THING I HAD ON MY LIST.

IT WAS HELPFUL TO HEAR THAT THIS WASN'T ENVISIONED TO BE KIND OF A BIG MECHANICAL SHOP OR REPAIRS OR NOT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE NOT A LOT OF TEST DRIVING AND NOISE, SO.

I THINK THAT'S THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

I MEAN, I THINK SO. I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW.

I GUESS IF WE NEED ANYTHING ELSE, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP.

ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING DOES CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

AND ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO SO NOW.

UH, SEEING NO ONE COMING FORWARD.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WELL, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAD DISCUSSED EARLIER ABOUT THAT THE BUILDING IS ALREADY SPRINKLED AND THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL WILL MAKE ANY.

ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT HE MIGHT HAVE, I GUESS, AT THE TIME WHEN IT GETS FINALIZED? YEAH, I THINK IF THEY COME TO COUNCIL WITH THE AMOUNT OF CARS THEY EXPECT TO HAVE, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT INFORMATION AND WE TIE THIS TO THE INITIAL TERM OF THE LEASE AND JUST EVALUATE IT AT RENEWALS.

I THINK THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK OWNERSHIP WOULD BE A LINE TOO.

I MEAN, IF THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ISSUES.

YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE A LEASE RENEWAL AND IT'LL PROBABLY BE A SUP GRANT, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES.

THE OWNER PROBABLY WON'T. YEAH, YEAH.

SO IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE.

AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ABOUT THREE YEAR TERMS, SOMETIMES LESS, I MEAN, ONE OR TWO YEAR TERMS. SO THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME IF IT'S GOOD, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE.

MR. VICE CHAIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA, ZA 20 20043, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022. ALSO SUBJECT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT STAFF REVIEW NUMBER TWO THAT IS SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022 AND NOTING THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR A LEASE TERM INITIAL LEASE TERM OF THREE YEARS ONLY AT THIS POINT WELL CRAFTED MOTION HARDER THAN IT LOOKS.

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GOOD WORK. WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

VOTE, PLEASE. CONGRATULATIONS.

FIVE ZERO. YOU MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND AGAIN, I THINK I MIGHT JUST HAVE AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA HOW THOSE CARS MIGHT LAY OUT IN THEIR GENERAL.

I MEAN, THEY'LL I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF CITY COUNCIL JUST ASKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT VOLUME.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS WHEN DIRECTOR BAKER OCTOBER 18, I WAS GOING TO TRY AND CATCH HIM OFF GUARD.

HE WAS READY.

[7. Consider: Resolution No. 22-027, (ZA22-0048), Specific Use Permit for Avary Investments to allow sales and service of used automobiles, trucks or motorhomes on property described as Lot 4R, Block C, North Davis Business Park, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 2105 Greenbriar Drive, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "1-1" Light Industrial District. SPIN Neighborhood #8.]

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AVERY INVESTMENTS.

AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM WE HEARD IN OUR WORK SESSION.

SO I'LL LET DENNIS SKIP OVER TO, I GUESS, WHAT HE THINKS IS THE BEST FEW SLIDES TO LOOK AT.

CERTAINLY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS IS ALSO FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR SALES OF USED AUTOMOBILES, TRUCKS, MOTOR HOMES FOR A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS.

AND I MIGHT ADD THAT THIS IS A RENEWAL OF A PREVIOUS PREVIOUSLY EXISTING SUP.

THEY'VE HELD AN AUTO SALES SUP AT THIS LOCATION FOR JUST OVER 15 YEARS.

THIS IS I WANT IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

ON THE LAND USE AND ISLAND ZONING.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THEIR PROPERTY.

THEY'RE. INITIAL PERMIT WAS APPROVED IN 2009 AND THEY HAVE BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.

THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR A TEN YEAR TERM.

FOR THIS PARTICULAR PERMIT.