Nov 01, 2022 City Council

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ALL RIGHT.

[1. Call to order]

CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND WE WILL START, AS WE ALWAYS START WITH OUR WORD OF INVOCATION FROM PASTOR CLAY REED.

SO YOU GUYS, PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND FOR OUR PLEDGES.

LET'S PRAY.

DEAR LORD WE GAVE THANKS FOR THIS EVENING AND WE ALSO STOP TONIGHT TO GIVE THANKS FOR OUR VETERANS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED SO HONORABLY. AND WE PRAY FOR BLESSING UPON THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AND WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE ACTIVELY SERVING OVERSEAS RIGHT NOW FOR PROTECTION FOR THEM, FOR WISDOM FOR THEM AND FOR HELP. LORD WE THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY.

WE PRAY BLESSING UPON THIS MEETING TONIGHT. WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE OUR COUNCIL HELP AS THEY DELIBERATE. STAFF WISDOM AND HELP AS THEY ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO BLESS AND HELP AND OUR CITY. WE GIVE THANKS FOR JESUS. AND IT'S IN HIS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. PLEASE HAVE A SEAT.

THANK YOU, PASTOR REED. REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.

[3. Southlake Business Spotlight - Peace, Love & Little Donuts]

THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A FEW YEARS BUT I UNDERSTAND IT DID RECENTLY CHANGE OWNERSHIP.

CORRECT? MR. DANIEL CORTEZ.

YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.

PEACE, LOVE AND LITTLE DONUTS DID RECENTLY GO OVER A CHANGE IN MANAGEMENT AFTER HAVING BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND IT WAS INTERMITTENT.

BUT AS I'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNER, THEY REALLY JUST WANTED TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNCIL AND LET THE CITY KNOW THAT THEY ARE WELL AND OPEN AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH US IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE AND OF COURSE GET THE WORD OUT THAT THEY'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND READY TO SERVE.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL HEAR FROM A COUPLE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS.

HI, I'M JENNIFER.

I'M MAKAYLA AND WE'RE FROM PEACE, LOVE AND LITTLE DONUTS IN SOUTHLAKE.

SO WE ALSO HAVE A FULL COFFEE BAR.

SO YOU CAN COME IN AND HAVE LATTES, CAPPUCCINOS [INAUDIBLE].

COFFEE AND DONUTS, THEY GO TOGETHER PERFECTLY.

KIND OF GET THAT START TO YOUR MORNING.

OTHER GREAT THING ABOUT OUR DONUTS IS THEY'RE SMALL.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A HUGE DONUT.

PERFECT FOR PARTIES.

WE DO A LOT OF CATERING EVENTS, CHURCHES, ALL THAT.

[INAUDIBLE] SO WE'RE ALLOWED INTO ALL THE SOUTHLAKE SCHOOLS.

BUT FOR ANY KIND OF SCHOOL CHURCH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY OF THESE ALLERGIES [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S REALLY GREAT.

YOU CAN COME INTO THE STORE, BRING YOUR KIDDOS FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY, JUST LET US KNOW.

WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING SET.

WHEN YOU COME IN, KIDS PICK OUT THEIR DONUTS, THEY HAVE A BLAST HERE.

YEAH, AND IT'S JUST A REALLY GREAT.

WE'RE HAPPY, WE LOVE BEING HERE IN SOUTHLAKE, THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT COME IN ONCE EVERY MONDAY OR FRIDAY, THEY JUST ARE ALWAYS HERE, ALWAYS JUST BRINGING SMILES.

AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OWNED BY A FAMILY THAT LIVES IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND SO IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND THAT THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS US.

SO WE'RE REALLY THANKFUL FOR BEING HERE AND APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL.

WE ARE OPEN EVERY DAY FROM 7 TO 1.

SO COME IN EARLY MORNING, IN THE AFTERNOON FOR LUNCH OR DONUTS.

FEEL FREE TO FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

INSTAGRAM IS PLLDSOUTHLAKE.

ON FACEBOOK AT PEACE, LOVE AND LITTLE DONUTS, SOUTHLAKE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL . AND I KNOW IT SOUNDS A LITTLE ECHOEY, BUT I PROMISE YOU, IT SOUNDS A LOT BETTER WHEN YOU'RE SCROLLING THROUGH ON FACEBOOK ON IT.

SO, WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THAT SPOTLIGHT.

CERTAINLY, IT'S A WONDERFUL BUSINESS AND IT DOES HAVE GREAT COFFEE I WILL SAY.

INCREDIBLE DONUTS, BUT REALLY, REALLY GOOD COFFEE.

SO ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE EXCITED THEY'RE STILL IN TOWN AND WE'RE EXCITED THAT THEY'RE DOING WELL.

AND THERE IS A LITTLE TREAT IN THE BACK FOR ALL OF COUNCIL AS WELL.

COME ON, DANIEL.

EVERYONE UP HERE IS TRYING TO WATCH THEIR WEIGHT, OKAY.

COME ON, MAN. WELL, WITH THAT AND SALIVATING OVER THE DONUTS IN THE BACK, WE'LL MOVE ON TO WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS HONORS AND RECOGNITIONS - VETERANS DAY

[4. Honors and Recognition - Veteran's Day Proclamation]

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SO EVERY YEAR WE COME BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT VETERANS DAY, AND IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT HOLIDAY FOR US TO RECOGNIZE, AND WE DO IT TO HONOR OUR AMERICA'S VETERANS FOR THEIR PATRIOTISM, THEIR LOVE OF COUNTRY, AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND SACRIFICE FOR THE COMMON GOOD.

FOR OUR ORGANIZATION, IT'S A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR OUR EMPLOYEES, VOLUNTEERS, AND CITIZENS WHO HAVE SERVED OUR GREAT NATION.

WE ARE SO PROUD OF TO TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE 44 EMPLOYEE VETERANS WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE ARMED FORCES.

AND YOU CAN SEE THEIR NAMES HERE ON THE SCREEN.

THEIR SACRIFICES GO UNNOTICED MOST DAYS OF THE YEAR, BUT THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS MEAN SO MUCH TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.

WE ARE THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL THAT OUR EMPLOYEE VETERANS HAVE CHOSEN TO CONTINUE THEIR PUBLIC SERVICE HERE AT SOUTHLAKE TO SERVE BOTH THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY.

TONIGHT, WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEIR SERVICE TO BOTH OUR NATION AND THE SOUTHLAKE.

AND IN ADDITION TO THESE EMPLOYEE VOLUNTEER VETERANS, WE ALSO WANT TO HONOR AND THANK OUR MANY SOUTHLAKE VOLUNTEER VETERANS, AS WELL AS THOSE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SERVED OUR GREAT NATION. IF YOU ARE A VETERAN AND YOU'RE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TAKE A MINUTE JUST TO STAND SO WE MAY RECOGNIZE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY VETERANS HERE TONIGHT? THEY'RE SHY [APPLAUSE].

AND THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR, COUNCIL HAS DESIGNATED TWO PARKING SPOTS OUT HERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN HALL JUST THIS VERY EVENING, NOT TOO LONG AGO.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE PICTURE THAT SIGN OFF TO THE, ON THE, BEHIND THE COUNCIL ON THE SCREEN.

AND WE ARE ALSO VERY HONORED TO HAVE A NUMBER OF VETERANS HERE FOR THE UNVEILING OF THESE TWO NEW PARKING SPOTS HERE IN TOWN SQUARE THAT CAN BE USED IMMEDIATELY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE MILITARY.

WITH THAT, MAYOR I'D LIKE TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR BLACK, AND THANK YOU TO OUR VETERANS.

IT WAS OUR DISTINCT HONOR TO UNVEIL THOSE PARKING SPOTS, THOSE DEDICATED PARKING SPOTS IN TOWN SQUARE.

TO OUR VETERANS, IT'S THE VERY, VERY LEAST WE CAN DO AS A CITY TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES HAVE DONE TO SACRIFICE FOR OUR GREAT COUNTRY AND FOR OUR FREEDOMS. AND WE DEEPLY, DEEPLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO DO TO BRING HONOR TO OUR GREAT COUNTRY.

SO I DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION.

I'D LIKE TO READ THAT PROCLAMATION.

I'M GOING TO READ IT IN ITS ENTIRETY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT.

SO WHEREAS NOVEMBER 11TH HAS LONG HELD A CHERISHED PLACE IN THE HEART OF EVERY AMERICAN FROM THE INAUGURATION OF THIS TREASURED HOLIDAY IN 1918, AMERICANS HAVE RECOGNIZED THE SACRIFICES MADE BY OUR MILITARY.

KNOWN ORIGINALLY AS ARMISTICE DAY, A DAY OF PEACE, AFTER WORLD WAR I, PRESIDENT WILSON DECLARED NOVEMBER 11TH TO BE A DAY OF REFLECTION.

PRESIDENT EISENHOWER LATER ISSUED THE FIRST VETERANS DAY PROCLAMATION ENCOMPASSING ALL MILITARY CONFLICTS AND ACKNOWLEDGING EVERY MILITARY MEMBER WHO HAS SERVED.

HE WROTE, LET US SOLEMNLY REMEMBER THE SACRIFICES OF ALL THOSE WHO FOUGHT SO VALIANTLY ON THE SEAS, IN THE AIR AND ON FOREIGN SHORES TO PRESERVE OUR HERITAGE OF FREEDOM. LET US RECONSECRATE OURSELVES TO THE TASK OF PROMOTING AND ENDURING PEACE SO THAT THEIR EFFORTS SHALL NOT HAVE BEEN IN VAIN.

AND WHEREAS, SINCE THE HUMBLE BEGINNINGS OF OUR INDEPENDENCE, COURAGEOUS AMERICANS HAVE STEPPED FORWARD TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY AND TO PROMOTE OUR IDEALS, THE LIBERTY THAT WE AS U.S. CITIZENS ENJOY COMES AT A PRICE PAID BY THESE VALUE MEN AND WOMEN.

WHEREAS WE RECOGNIZE THE SACRIFICE OF THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED IN DEFENSE OF THIS NATION AND THE LOVED ONES WHO STAND BESIDE THEM, MEMORIALIZING THE HEROES WHO GAVE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE, AND ALL THOSE WHO HAVE NOT RETURNED HOME.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE HAS 44 EMPLOYEES AND NUMEROUS CITIZENS AND VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

AND WHEREAS, WE'RE REMINDED OF OUR OBLIGATION TO THEM TO SERVE OUR VETERANS AS THEY HAVE GALLANTLY SERVED US.

AND AS WE GATHER HERE TODAY, LET US NOT FORGET THAT FREEDOM IS NEVER FREE.

AND OUR NATION AND OUR COMMUNITY IS EVER MORE INDEBTED FOR THEIR COURAGEOUS SERVICE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I.

MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE NOVEMBER 11, 2022, AS VETERANS DAY IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

[APPLAUSE] SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INVITE DIRECTOR COHAN AND AMANDA IF YOU GUYS CAN COME DOWN AND ANY OTHER VETERANS, IF ANY OF YOU WERE HIDING IN THE AUDIENCE TO COME DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE WITH COUNCIL , I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

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LEAST WE CAN DO.

[5. Discuss all items on tonight's agenda. No action will be taken and each item will be considered during the Regular Session.]

ALL RIGHT. SO OUR CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM 4A.

APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 18, 2022 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ITEM 4B. APPROVE RESOLUTION NO 22-032 FOR RECEIVING HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS FUNDS FOR THE NORTHEAST EXPLOSIVE RESPONSE TEAM AND SOUTHLAKE EXPLOSIVE ORDINANCE DISPOSAL UNIT.

ITEM 4C. ORDINANCE NUMBER 1267, FIRST READING ADOPTING THE 2023 STANDARDS OF CARE FOR THE RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN OPERATED BY THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. ITEM 4D.

APPROVE OF FACILITIES UTILIZATION AGREEMENT WITH DRAGON YOUTH FOOTBALL FOR 2023-2024.

ITEM 4E. APPROVE A FACILITIES UTILIZATION AGREEMENT WITH A GRAPEVINE SOUTHLAKE SOCCER ASSOCIATION FOR 23-24.

ITEM 4F. APPROVE AN FUA WITH THE SOUTHLAKE CARROLL LACROSSE ASSOCIATION FOR 23-24.

ITEM 4G. APPROVE AN FUA WITH LADY DRAGON LACROSSE FOR 23-24.

ITEM 4H. AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURES FOR ELECTRICAL SERVICE WITH ED'S ELECTRICAL SERVICE FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $110,000.

ITEM FOUR I APPROVE CONTRACT WITH G SERVICES INC FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF SYNTHETIC TURF AT BICENTENNIAL PARK THROUGH A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING CONTRACT AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $130,000.

ITEM 4J.

AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURE WITH WILDSTONE CONSTRUCTION LLC FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION OF SOUTHLAKE PARKS AREA FIRE LINE IMPROVEMENTS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $750,000.

ITEM 4K.

APPROVE AN ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH VRX, INC.

TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR EROSION PROTECTION AT DOVE CREEK NEAR EAST HIGHLAND STREET IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $150,000.

ITEM 4L. APPROVE AN ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH VRX, INC.

TO PROVIDE AN ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR EROSION PROTECTION AT BIG BEAR CREEK NEAR TIMBER COURT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $135,000.

ITEM 4M.

AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURES WITH WAUKESHA-PEARCE INDUSTRIES, INC.

FOR THE PURCHASE OF GENERATOR EQUIPMENT AND FOR THE PREVENTATIVE AND CORRECTIVE MAINTENANCE SERVICES OF ALL CITY FACILITIES BACK-UP GENERATORS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $100,000. ITEM 4N.

APPROVE PURCHASE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1 MILLION TO MOTOROLA FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF POLICE AND FIRE RADIOS.

ITEM 4O.

APPROVE PURCHASE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $78,000 FOR CDW-G FOR CRADLEPOINT 5G WIRELESS FOR POLICE VEHICLES.

ITEM 4P. APPROVE EXPENDITURES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $66,000 TO MOTOROLA/WATCHGUARD FOR THE SECOND YEAR OF THE FIVE YEAR CONTRACT FOR POLICE RADIOS.

ITEM 4Q.

ZA-22-0052 PLAT REVISION FOR HIGHLAND TERRACE AND ASSEMBLY OF GOD EDITION.

AND,, THAT'S IT.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO PUT ON CONSENT TONIGHT? NO. YOU GUYS WANT TO DIG INTO THESE SIGN CASES? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL DO IT. PERFECT.

[1. Call to order.]

AND AS USUAL, OUR FIRST ITEM ON A REGULAR SESSION IS TO GO INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[2. A. Executive Session]

ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL CALL THE REGULAR SESSION BACK TO ORDER.

IS THERE ANY ACTION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, MAYOR. OKAY.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 3A, WHICH IS MAYOR'S REPORT.

WE HAVE NOTHING SCHEDULED. AND TO ITEM 3B, WHICH IS CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

[3.B. City Manager's Report ]

MS. SHANA YELVERTON.

MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I'D LIKE TO ASK LAURA LANEAVE TO STEP FORWARD.

SHE'S GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR LEAF PROGRAM THIS YEAR.

LEAF REMOVAL PROGRAM I SHOULD SAY. ALL RIGHT.

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IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN WHERE WE HAVE LEAVES FALLING AND THE WEATHER'S GETTING COOL.

SO REPUBLIC HAS SCHEDULED SIX LEAF RECYCLING DAYS THIS YEAR.

SO THE FIRST IS COMING UP SOON.

ON NOVEMBER 9TH, RESIDENTS, ANY RESIDENT CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.

WHAT YOU'LL NEED TO DO IS PLACE YOUR BAGGED LEAVES ON THE CURB BY 7 A.M.

ON THE LEAF RECYCLING COLLECTION DAYS.

THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DIVERT LEAVES FROM THE LANDFILL.

OVER THE COURSE OF THIS PROGRAM, WE'VE DIVERTED MORE THAN 1500 TONS OF LEAVES FROM THE LANDFILL.

ANY TIME, REPUBLIC WILL PICK UP LEAVES ANY TIME OF THE YEAR, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THEY GO INTO THE REGULAR TRASH STREAM.

SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE SPACE IN THE LANDFILL, DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE EARTH AND GET THOSE LEAVES OFF EVERYONE'S YARDS.

SO THE FIRST IS GOING TO BE ON NOVEMBER 9TH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THREE DATES IN DECEMBER AND THEN TWO DATES IN JANUARY.

AND THESE ARE POSTED ONLINE ON MY SOUTHLAKE NEWS.

AND THEN WE'RE ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU? IS THERE ANY LIMIT TO THE AMOUNT OF BAGS? NO, THERE'S NO LIMIT TO THE AMOUNT OF BAGS WE HAVE.

WE DO ASK THAT IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN, SAY, 25 BAGS, WE DO, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL HAVE 80 TO 100 BAGS ON A COLLECTION DAY.

SO WE JUST ASK THAT YOU GIVE US A HEADS UP, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED.

REPUBLIC WILL PICK THEM UP.

ALL RIGHT. ARE WE CERTAIN THAT SECOND DATE ISN'T NOVEMBER 16TH? YOU'RE CORRECT. IT SHOULD BE NOVEMBER 16TH.

THANK YOU. THIS IS AN ANNUAL FAVORITE IN THE HUFFMAN HOUSE.

AND CHILDREN GET TO RAKE SOME LEAVES.

THIS IS GOOD. WELL, NOW, TO CLARIFY, DO WE HAVE TO.

WE DON'T HAVE TO CALL AND SCHEDULE.

OR DO WE? WE HAVE TO CALL AND SCHEDULE THE PICKUP ON THESE DATES OR THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DRIVE AROUND.

THEY WILL COME BY. IT'S ON A WEDNESDAY.

ALL THE DATES ARE ON WEDNESDAYS.

AND SO THAT'S NOT A REGULAR COLLECTION DATE.

SO THEY JUST COME THROUGH, JUST LIKE YOUR REGULAR ROUTE AND COME AND GRAB THEM.

PERFECT. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MS. LANEAVE. I APPRECIATE YOU COORDINATING.

THANK YOU. EXCELLENT.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY GONE THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL WANTS TO PUT ON CONSENT? AND WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT FORM RELATED TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[4.C. Ordinance No. 1267, 1st Reading, adopting the 2023 Standards of Care for the recreation programs for elementary school age children operated by the Community Services Department.]

COLLEEN GOLESTAN FROM 708 BRYSON WAY, COME ON DOWN.

SO JUST A REMINDER ABOUT PUBLIC FORUM.

YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK AND THAT GREEN LIGHT WILL TURN ON WHEN YOU START.

THE YELLOW LIGHT TURNS ON WHEN YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT AND WHEN IT'S RED BLINKING, THAT MEANS YOUR TIME'S UP.

OKAY. AND THIS ISN'T THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

YES, MA'AM. IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

OKAY. COLLEEN GOLESTAN, 708 BRYSON WAY, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, 22 YEARS.

YES. SO IT WAS.

I THOUGHT WE'D SKIPPED THAT.

SO, YES.

CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 4C.

THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 1267.

AND EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR, RIGHT? I DON'T NEED TO READ IT OR ANYTHING.

OR DO I? OH, YOU CAN'T ANSWER.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO I WENT BACK TO EXHIBIT A, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, CITY OF SOUTHLAKE STANDARDS OF CARE FOR YOUTH PROGRAMS. AND I THINK SOMEWHERE IT SAID IT WAS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR AND IT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

BUT MY CONCERN IS, EVEN THOUGH IT HASN'T CHANGED, ON ITEM 4C-10. SIX.

SUSPECTED ABUSE.

LAWS HAVE BEEN CHANGING VERY QUICKLY IN TEXAS OF WHAT THE DEFINITION OF ABUSE IS.

AND THIS IS MY CONCERN.

IF THIS IS PASSED AS IS, BECAUSE NOW GENDER AFFIRMING FAMILIES ARE CONSIDERED ABUSERS AND WILL BE INVESTIGATED BY DEPARTMENT OF WHATEVER IT IS.

SO SIX, SUSPECTED ABUSE.

PROGRAM EMPLOYEES SHALL REPORT SUSPECTED CHILD ABUSE OR NEGLECT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS FAMILY CODE, WHICH MEANS IF A CHILD IDENTIFIES, WANTS TO USE THEIR OWN PRONOUNS AND THEIR OWN NAME AND WHATEVER ELSE THEY WANT TO DO, IT SEEMS THAT THE EMPLOYEE WOULD HAVE TO REPORT THEM FOR ABUSE.

JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD FOR THAT, IS THIS WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO.

AND THEN.

AND THAT EMPLOYEE, WILL, THE PROGRAM SUPERVISOR WILL IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO, IF THAT EMPLOYEE USES A CHILD'S PREFERRED PRONOUNS, PREFERRED NAME, LOOKS LIKE THEY NEED TO IMMEDIATELY BE REPORTED TO THE

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FAILURE TO REPORT SUSPECTED ABUSE IS PUNISHABLE BY FINES UP TO $1,000 OR CONFINEMENT UP TO 180 DAYS.

CONFIDENTIAL REPORTS MAY BE DENIED.

SO IT SEEMS THAT IF A CHILD SHOWS UP IN THIS PROGRAM AND IF THEY IDENTIFY AS A GENDER THAT PEOPLE DON'T AGREE WITH OR PRONOUNS OR A NAME OR A NUMBER OF THINGS, THEN BY LAW THEY HAVE TO BE REPORTED TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY PROTECTIVE SERVICES. AND I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT ALL OF YOU ARE GOING ON RECORD FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. MS. GOLESTAN, YOUR TIME IS UP.

OH. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON CONSENT AGENDA? OK. SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL? OKAY. IF WE DON'T HAVE A DISCUSSION, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.

YES, COUNCIL. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 4A THROUGH Q.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THE CONSENT AGENDA PASSES TONIGHT 7-0.

AND WE ARE STILL A LITTLE EARLY FOR OUR PUBLIC FORUM.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 6A FIRST.

[6.A. Ordinance No. 717-G, 2nd Reading, an amendment to Chapter 18, Section 18-79 of the Southlake City Code, establishing a new speed limit of 25 miles per hour (MPH) within the Timarron Addition Wyndsor Creek 1 neighborhood. PUBLIC HEARING]

SECOND READING. AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 18, SECTION 18-79 OF SOUTHLAKE CITY CODE.

AND FOR THIS, WE HAVE DIRECTOR COHAN.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I'LL BE PRESENTING 6A THIS EVENING.

THIS EVENING IS THE SECOND READING FOR ORDINANCE 717-G, WHICH ACTUALLY WORKS TO REVISE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPEED LIMIT FROM 30 MILES PER HOUR TO 25 MILES PER HOUR IN THE TIMARRON ADDITION OF WYNDSOR CREEK 1.

SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE AREAS IN WHICH THE SIGNS WOULD BE POSTED.

THERE ARE EXISTING SIGNS.

THERE'S ONE HERE.

THE 30 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT SIGN WILL BE REPLACED WITH 25, AS WELL AS THE ONE HERE.

SO THERE'S ONLY TWO SIGNS THAT WOULD BE REPLACED.

THE PURPOSE, OBVIOUSLY, IS TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT.

THE RESIDENTS HAVE APPROACHED STAFF TWICE.

THEY HAVE RECEIVED 78% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORTING THE SPEED LIMIT CHANGE.

THE MINIMUM REQUIRED IS 75%.

SO THE MAJORITY DOES SUPPORT THIS.

THERE WAS ALSO A STUDY DONE BY OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT IN 2016.

THEY ALSO IDENTIFIED THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS, LACK OF ON STREET PARKING AS WELL AS PEDESTRIANS IN THE ROADWAY.

SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THIS ACTION BASICALLY FULFILLS THE TWO FOCUS AREAS AS SEEN AS WELL AS THE CORPORATE OBJECTIVE.

SO I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE ANY.

THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OK.

SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. YES, SIR.

THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 6A, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.

SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION? PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 6A, OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ORDINANCE NUMBER 717-G, SECOND READING, AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 18, SECTION 18-79 OF THE SOUTHLAKE CITY CODE, ESTABLISHING A NEW SPEED LIMIT OF 25 MILES PER HOUR WITHIN THE TIMARRON ADDITION OF WYNDSOR CREEK 1 NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT, ITEM 6A PASSES, 7-0 .

ALL RIGHT. WELL, WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 6B, RESOLUTION NUMBER 22-029 (ZA22-0045).

[6.B. Resolution No. 22-029, (ZA22-0045), Specific Use Permit for a Mass Gathering Events for a Christmas Festival (outdoor) and Follow the Star -Drive Through Christmas Story on property described as Lot 1R, Block 1, White Chapel Methodist Church Addition and located at 185 S. White Chapel Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "CS" Community Services District. SPIN Neighborhood #9. PUBLIC HEARING]

MR. KILLOUGH, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

TAKE IT AWAY FOR THE FIRST TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYOR HUFFMAN AND CITY COUNCIL.

HAPPY TO BE HERE. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR TWO MASS GATHERING EVENTS AT THE WHITE'S CHAPEL METHODIST CHURCH.

THE ANNUAL CHRISTMAS EVENT HAS BEEN HELD FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS AND THIS IS A REQUEST TO RENEW THAT AND THEN TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL EVENT, WHICH IS A DRIVE THROUGH CHRISTMAS STORY.

THE MAIN CHRISTMAS EVENT IS PROPOSED TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 30TH AND THE DRIVE THROUGH CHRISTMAS IS PROPOSED TO BE HELD ON DECEMBER

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THEIR INITIAL REQUEST IS FOR TEN YEAR PERIOD FOR BOTH EVENTS.

PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 185 SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD.

LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THIS PROPERTY AS PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC.

ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY AS COMMUNITY SERVICE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THIS IS AN EXHIBIT OF THE EVENT AND ITS GENERAL LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY.

ONCE AGAIN, THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL IS PROPOSED TO BE HELD NOVEMBER 30TH, WHICH IS A WEDNESDAY, THE EVENT TIME 2 P.M.

TO 8 P.M.

AND THIS IS A LAYOUT OF THE ACTIVITY AREA.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A LISTING OF THE VARIOUS ACTIVITIES.

THERE'LL BE SEVERAL STATIONARY TENTS, SOME INFLATABLE BOUNCE HOUSES, VARIOUS RIDES FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS, I PRESUME.

PETTING ZOO, A PONY RIDE AND A FIREWORK EVENT THAT WOULD BEGIN AT 7:15, WHICH THEY HAVE INDICATED THE VENDOR WILL ACQUIRE ALL REQUIRED PERMITS RELATED TO THE CITY FOR THE FIREWORK DISPLAY.

THEY WILL HAVE OFFSITE PARKING AVAILABLE AT CARROLL HIGH SCHOOL ON NORTH WHITE CHAPEL.

THIS IS A SHUTTLE BUS ROUTE THAT WOULD BRING PATRONS TO AND FROM THE EVENT.

AND THIS IS AN EXHIBIT OF THE DRIVE THROUGH CHRISTMAS STORY.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS PROPOSED TO BE HELD DECEMBER 8TH AND 9TH, BETWEEN 6 P.M.

AND 7:30.

ALL ENTRANTS WOULD BE OFF OF WHITE CHAPEL AND FLOW THROUGH THE SITE AND EXIT BACK OUT TO EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

SOME PHOTOS OF WHITE'S CHAPEL METHODIST CHURCH FROM VARIOUS PERSPECTIVES.

AND PHOTOS OF ENTRANCE EXITS AND HOW THAT WILL FLOW.

WE HAVE RECEIVED NO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT FOR THE ITEM.

THIS IS THE NOTIFICATION MAP.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 7-0 WITH THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL BEING APPROVED FOR THE FULL REQUESTED TEN YEAR PERIOD AND THE FOLLOW THE STAR STORY EVENT FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS CITY COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. DENNIS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

HAVE THEY ALWAYS HAD THE FIREWORKS? IS THAT A NEW ADDITION? I'M NOT CERTAIN.

DO YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE TO STILL GO THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS, BUT WHERE WOULD THEY BE LIGHTING THEM OFF? BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THAT BACK CORNER FOR THE FESTIVALS.

I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE BY ANY CHANCE? OH, OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. I JUST HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH.

THANK YOU. DO YOU RECALL FROM P AND Z WHY THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE RECOMMENDING 10 YEARS FOR ONE AND FIVE FOR THE OTHER EVENT? AND MY BELIEF IS JUST TO SEE HOW THE EVENT WOULD FLOW AND OPERATE AND WHAT THE ATTENDANCE WOULD ACTUALLY BE.

AND AT THE MEETING, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WAS OKAY WITH THAT.

THEY AREN'T EXACTLY SURE HOW IT WILL OPERATE OR BE ATTENDED AS OF YET AS WELL.

OKAY. AND THEN FROM YEAR TO YEAR, JUST LIKE WE DO FOR ART AND SQUARE, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A SEP.

I THINK THE NAME MIGHT BE CHANGING, BUT SO IF, IF AFTER A YEAR ONE OF THE DRIVE THROUGH, THINGS CHANGE, THEY'LL HAVE TO INDICATE THAT ON THAT SUBMISSION.

CORRECT. YEAH. THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE MASS GATHERING DOES REQUIRE THAT THEY OPERATE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF HOW THEY'VE DESCRIBED THAT EVENT.

AND IF IT EXCEEDS THAT THOSE VARIOUS BOUNDARIES OR CREATES AN UNUSUAL ISSUE OR HAZARD, WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO RE BRING THAT TO THE COUNCIL UNDER THE NEW SCOPE.

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I MEAN 500 CARS IN 90 MINUTES IS A LOT OF CARS RIGHT THERE ON WHITE CHAPEL.

I'M ASSUMING THAT, WILL THEY USE POLICE TO HOPEFULLY DIRECT PEOPLE AROUND THE TRAFFIC WAITING TO GET INTO THE CHURCH THERE TO LET THEM TRY TO GET TO THAT WHITE'S CHAPEL INTERSECTION? OR HOW, IS THERE A PLAN TO KIND OF THEY INDICATED THEY WOULD HAVE POLICE SERVICES PRESENT.

AND SO PART OF THAT, I BELIEVE, WOULD BE TRAFFIC CONTROL AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE GETTING ON AND OFF THE PROPERTY.

DIDN'T WATCH THE P AND Z MEETING, BUT I'M CONCERNED WHY WOULD WE DO A TRIAL ON AN EVENT LIKE THIS WHERE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT STACKING AND ALL OF THIS FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD? WHY WOULDN'T WE GRANT THEM A ONE YEAR SUP AND THEN COME BACK AND MAYBE WAIVE THE APPLICATION FEE OR WHATEVER IT TAKES? BUT LET'S REEVALUATE.

THEY DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO GO.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO GO.

IT'S A LOT OF CARS IN A 90 MINUTE PERIOD ON A VERY BUSY EVENING.

WELL, IT COULD BE MORE.

CORRECT. YEAH.

LET'S ASK THE APPLICANT.

CAN WE GRANT FIVE YEARS WITH AN EVALUATION PHASE AFTER YEAR ONE FROM A TRAFFIC FLOW STANDPOINT? I MEAN, I'M SURE WE CAN.

YEAH. YEAH.

WELL, YEAH, LOTS OF QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER FOR STAFF JUST AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU, DENNIS.

THANK YOU. IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME ON UP.

MA'AM, IF YOU COULD JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

DENISE BENNETT, 3628 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, FIRST OF ALL, FOR PUTTING THIS EVENT ON.

BOTH EVENTS SEEM REALLY, REALLY SPECIAL.

AND I LOVE THE CREATIVITY.

HERE WE HAVE WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

NO PROBLEM. I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 20 YEARS.

THERE YOU GO. [LAUGHTER] IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYBE JUST STARTING WITH TRAFFIC FLOW, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, STACKING WHERE AND IF YOU COULD PULL UP THE MAP OF THE FLOW, IS THE FOLLOW THE STAR. SO WHERE IS THE EXHIBIT GOING TO START? HOW OUR CAR IS GOING TO STACK.

HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT THROUGH THE MANAGEMENT OF ALL THAT? YES. WE ACTUALLY HAVE DONE THIS ONCE BEFORE.

WE DID IT DURING COVID BECAUSE WE COULDN'T HAVE PEOPLE ON CAMPUS AT THE TIME.

OKAY. SO WE DID DO THAT THIS NIGHT.

AND WE FOUND OUT FROM THAT NIGHT THAT OUR ROUTE DID NOT TAKE ENOUGH CARS OFF OF THE ROADWAY.

RIGHT. SO WE CHANGED IT WHERE, I'M NOT REALLY GOOD.

SO THAT WOULD BE, EAST.

SO THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT ON THE EAST WAS WHERE ALL THE MURALS WILL BE.

SO THEN ALL THAT OTHER IS TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THEM IN THROUGH PINE AND GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND SO THAT WE CAN SERPENTINE THEM.

I ALWAYS THINK IT'S LIKE A SIX FLAGS LINE THAT GOES BACK AND FORTH TO TRY TO GET AS MANY OF THEM OFF THE STREET AS WE CAN.

SO WHERE DID THE MURALS ACTUALLY START? DO WE HAVE A MOUSE WE CAN LET HER USE TO KIND OF SHOW US? OH, THANK YOU.

IF I CAN FIGURE IT OUT.

HERE.

JUST CLICK THE ARROW KEY LEFT OR RIGHT.

HERE WE GO.

OKAY, WE'LL START OUT RIGHT HERE.

OKAY, SO ALL THE.

YEAH, SO THEY'LL GO THROUGH HERE, ALL AROUND HERE.

AND SO THAT'S THE ACTUAL, THAT WILL BE THE ONLY PART THAT HAS THE MURALS.

EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE TO GET TRAFFIC OFF THE STREET.

SO HOW DID 2020 GO? WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS YOUR TURNOUT? DO YOU EXPECT MORE OR LESS THIS YEAR? I EXPECT ABOUT THE SAME, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS.

I THINK EVERYBODY WAS DESPERATE TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE IN 2020.

I WANT TO SAY WE HAD 700 CARS COME THROUGH THAT NIGHT AND WE HAD TO CANCEL THE FIRST NIGHT.

SO WE DID LEARN FROM THAT THAT HANDING OUT ANY KIND OF MATERIALS, WE WERE DOING ADMIN BOXES, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

THAT SLOWED THE LINES DOWN.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAND OUT ANYTHING OR HAVE MRS. CLAUS THERE OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT THEM THROUGH THE LINE, LET THEM GET THROUGH AND BE GONE.

COUNCIL, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PD OR SOMEBODY DIRECTING TRAFFIC OUT ON WHITE'S CHAPEL.

YES, I THINK I HAVE SIX POLICE OFFICERS SCHEDULED FOR THAT NIGHT.

AND I ALWAYS THEY ALWAYS DO THEM IN, TWO OUT ON THE MAIN ROAD.

SO THEY HAVE SOMEBODY TO BE THERE WITH, AND THEN THERE'LL BE ONE OR TWO INSIDE.

SO I GUESS I STILL DO HAVE STACKING CONCERN FOR FOLKS USING THE RIGHT TURN LANE COMING IN OFF OF 1709.

AND I HAVE A PRETTY BIG CONCERN ABOUT THAT.

I THINK OBVIOUSLY COMING THE OTHER WAY.

WHITE'S CHAPEL IS PRETTY LONG.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD BE STACKED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE ROUNDABOUT.

I GUESS ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE.

BUT BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THEM COMING IN OFF OF 1709 THROUGH THE TURN LANE.

THROUGH THE LIGHT, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

THE LIGHT'S GOING TO GO RED. I THINK THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN COME IS THROUGH, THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE LIGHT, TURN LEFT ON TO WHITE'S CHAPEL.

THEY HAVE TO WHAT? THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE LIGHT AND THEN TURN LEFT AT WHITE'S CHAPEL ON 1709.

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OH, I MUST HAVE THE MAP BACKWARDS IN MY HEAD.

THE EXIT IS OUT ON TO 1709 AT THE TOP THERE.

RIGHT, BUT WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, TO GET TO THIS, YOU TAKE A RIGHT ON WHITE CHAPEL IN A TURN LANE.

AND SO MY CONCERN IS STACKING IN THAT TURN LANE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE COMING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CARS COMING SOUTH WHO ARE TAKING A LEFT INTO THAT ENTRANCE, RIGHT? HEADED SOUTH FROM.

ISN'T IT 1709 UP HERE? SO THEY'RE GOING TO COME THIS WAY ON 1709, TAKE A RIGHT AND THEN.

THEY'RE GOING SOUTH. YES, RIGHT.

YES. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE STACKING ON 1709.

OR THEY COULD BE TURNING LEFT.

WELL IN ADDITION TO THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

THE OTHER IS I'M PRETTY SURE ON SUNDAYS, I BELIEVE I SEE A COUPLE OF OFFICERS AT THE EXIT THERE.

RIGHT. WHAT DO THEY DO? I'VE NEVER WATCHED IT. DO THEY STOP TRAFFIC ON 1709 AND THEN ALLOW CARS? SO WILL THAT BE THE SET UP FOR THIS AS WELL? I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THEM YET, BUT I ASSUME IT WILL BE THE SAME THAT THEY'LL STOP TRAFFIC AND LET THEM THROUGH.

YEAH, TO ME, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE MY CONCERN IS.

THAT'S A LOT OF CARS CONSTANTLY COMING OUT AND THAT'S A VERY AGGRESSIVE AREA RIGHT THERE.

CARS COMING OFF, YOU KNOW, FLYING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION AT WHITE'S CHAPEL, HEADING EASTBOUND.

MAYBE CHIEF YOU CAN PROVIDE SOME INSIGHTS HERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE PLAN.

I THINK SOME OF THAT'S LEFT TO BE DISCUSSED AS FAR AS HOW THEY USE THE OFF DUTY OFFICERS.

BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS JUST CLOSING OFF THE RIGHT LANE OF 1709, GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT WITH CONES, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW WELL YOU DIRECT TRAFFIC INTO THIS IF YOU'RE NOT DIRECTING TRAFFIC OUT OF IT, THEN IT'S GOING TO STOP THE ENTIRE THING.

BUT THAT DOESN'T NEED TO NECESSARILY ENCOMPASS ALL OF 1709, JUST THAT RIGHT LANE TO GET THEM OUT AND GET THEM TURNED RIGHT, AND THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY NEED TO GO FROM THERE. GOT IT.

DOES THIS PLAN CONCERN YOU, CHIEF? NO, NOT ESPECIALLY.

I THINK WE'LL HAVE OFFICERS OUT THERE MONITORING IT, AND EVEN OUR PATROL OFFICERS ON DUTY WILL MONITOR IT.

I THINK IF THEY HAD 700 CARS BACK IN '20 AND DIDN'T RUN INTO HUGE STACKING ISSUES EITHER ON WHITE'S CHAPEL OR 1709, THEN THIS SHOULD BE FINE.

AND YOU DON'T RECALL ANY INCIDENTS FROM THE 2020? I DO NOT. OKAY.

WOULD YOU PREFER THEM TO STACK ON WHITE'S CHAPEL OR BACK OFF? I THINK IT'S PINE, SO THAT YOU PULL THEM OFF OF WHITE'S CHAPEL, SO THAT YOU KEEP WHITE'S CHAPEL SOMEWHAT OPEN.

OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW LONG PINE IS IN TERMS OF ITS ABILITY TO STACK THOSE CARS.

IF YOU DO IT ON PINE, WE'RE ALSO STACKING CARS IN FRONT OF ALL THE HOMES ON PINE, WHICH WILL INEVITABLY BLOCK DRIVEWAYS, AND WILL SPIN OFF SEVERAL OTHER ISSUES.

YEAH, BUT BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU DON'T FIND THIS TERRIBLY PROBLEMATIC.

NO, NO.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND OUT OF THEIR CHURCH OR GATEWAY CHURCH ON A GIVEN WEEKEND, IT'S FAR MORE THAN 700 CARS.

YEAH, TRUE. OKAY.

THANKS, CHIEF. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER FIREWORKS.

OH, YES, PLEASE. WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR AT LEAST 12 YEARS.

SO.

WHERE ARE THE FIREWORKS SHOT UP FROM? THEY ARE.

SO THERE'S THE POND.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIREWORKS WILL BE IN THIS PARKING LOT.

SO THEN WE HAVE A HUGE SPOT THAT WE LOSE PARKING BECAUSE IT'S ALL GATED WITH PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS AND IT'S WELL WITHIN THE FIRE OR THE EVENT PERSON FIREWORKS GUIDE ON HOW WIDE AN AREA WE NEED FOR THE FALLOUT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. WE MIGHT CALL YOU BACK UP IF WE HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS.

SO ITEM 6B IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.

SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

[LAUGHTER] COME ON, MARTIN.

I JUST CLOSED IT. OKAY.

WE HAVE ONE. WE HAVE.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE STANDING UP TO LET HER BACK IN HER SEAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU'RE TOO QUICK.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SIR.

MARTIN SCHELLING, 2665 NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

SO MY WIFE AND I ACTUALLY WORKED THE DRIVE THROUGH DURING PANDEMIC.

WE WERE MARY AND JOSEPH, IF Y'ALL CAN BELIEVE THAT.

VERY NICE. SO THE PEOPLE WHO COME BY, THEY HAVE KIDS IN THE BACK, THEY ROLL THE WINDOW DOWN.

THEY'RE ALL ROLLING IT, NOT VERY FAST, FIVE MILE AN HOUR OR SOMETHING.

THEY STOP FOR JUST A MINUTE AND THEY GO ON.

THE TRAFFIC REALLY WORKED WELL.

SO LIKE THE CHIEF SAID, WHEN SUNDAY LETS OUT, THE ENTRANCE ON WHITE CHAPEL, YOU CAN'T GET IN FOR CHURCH, SO YOU HAVE TO EXIT EITHER BACK THROUGH CALLOWAY'S OR YOU GO OVER HERE. AND WHEN WE'RE IN REALLY HIGH TRAFFIC SITUATIONS, THEY WON'T MAKE YOU, THEY WON'T LET YOU TURN LEFT.

SO THEY BASICALLY STOP THE TRAFFIC AND MAKE SURE YOU TURN RIGHT.

AND THEN THE STACKING ON WHITE CHAPEL, THERE'S ONE ENTRANCE TO A SUBDIVISION, BUT IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE.

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I MEAN, IF YOU CAN THINK ABOUT ALL THE CARS COMING IN THERE.

I'VE NEVER SEEN IT STACKED UP WHERE YOU SIT THERE FOR 30 SECONDS TO MOVE INTO THE COMPOUND.

SO I THINK IF THEY'LL MANAGE THE TRAFFIC AND FOLLOW THIS ROUTE, THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF STACKING ON SITE. IT WON'T BE LIKE CHICK-FIL-A, YOU'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET IN AND GET IN AND STACK ON THERE.

SO DON'T BRING THAT UP RIGHT NOW, MARTIN.

AND WHAT DENISE DIDN'T SAY IS THE WINTER FESTIVAL IS OPEN TO THE WORLD, SO IT'S WELL ATTENDED BY THE CHURCH MEMBERS, BUT IT'S OPEN TO EVERY CHILD FROM ALL THE METROPLEX WHO WANTS TO COME.

IT'S A GREAT EVENT. AND I ALWAYS MEET WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AHEAD OF TIME.

FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS, THAT'S ALWAYS A DICEY DEAL.

AND SO WE GET EVERYBODY THE INFORMATION AND WE MEET WITH THEM.

THEY PATROL THE SITE AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S SAFE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF GENERATORS OUT THERE AND YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY GET, KID PUT HIS HAND ON A MUFFLER OR SOMETHING.

BUT IT'S REALLY WELL ORGANIZED.

IT WORKED VERY WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE.

AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. SCHELLING. APPRECIATE YOU. ANY OTHER PEOPLE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 6B.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCIL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A PRETTY WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN.

I HAVE A LOT LESS INDIGESTION ABOUT IT.

I ACTUALLY ATTENDED THE EVENT IN 2020 AND WE OCCASIONALLY, ALTHOUGH WE'RE GATEWAY MEMBERS, WOULD OCCASIONALLY GO TO WHITE'S CHAPEL AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF LETTING OUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE THAT LANE CLOSED, AS CHIEF SAID.

SO I HAVE NEXT TO ZERO INDIGESTION ABOUT IT.

I TEND TO CONCUR WITH COUNCILMEMBER LEPP THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME.

AWESOME. I'M A BIG FAN OF THIS.

IT'S GOING TO BE HUGE. IT'S GOING TO BE BIG, PROBABLY BIGGER THAN WE CAN EVEN THINK.

I DON'T THINK IT HURTS TO DO A 10-1 APPROVAL, 10 ON THE THE FIRST ONE AND ONE ON THIS AND WAIVE A REAPPLICATION FEE AND JUST INVITE THEM BACK AT ONE YEAR, JUST TO TWEAK.

IF THERE'S NO TWEAKS, IT PASSES SUPER QUICK, IF THERE'S A COUPLE OF TWEAKS, WE MAKE TWEAKS.

I JUST THINK THAT'S A NICE CAUTIOUS WAY TO APPROACH IT.

SO WHAT ABOUT IF WE DID SOMETHING, IF WE GAVE THEM THE TEN AND FIVE, THE FIVE YEAR APPROVAL FOR THE FOLLOW THE STAR DRIVE THRU, BUT ASK CHIEF BRANDON AND HIS DEPARTMENT TO GIVE US SOME SORT OF REPORT AND IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, THEN WE MAKE THEM COME BACK.

BUT IF THERE'S NO ISSUE, THEN THEY'VE GOT THEIR FOUR MORE YEARS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT.

IT'S JUST AN IDEA. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBINS WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER.

IT'S HIS IDEA, NOT MINE.

BUT CAN WE MAKE THEM COME BACK IF WE'VE APPROVED THE IF WE'VE APPROVED FOR FIVE YEARS? WELL, IT CAN BE BUILT IN THE MOTION THAT IT'S CONDITIONED ON POLICE REPORT THAT INDICATES NO TRAFFIC ISSUES WITH THE EVENT IN 2022 OR GOING FORWARD.

AND IF THERE IS AND THEY MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK.

OR WE'LL WRITE A RESCISSION OR SOMETHING, I MEAN, IN CASE WE HAVE TO USE IT.

HOWEVER WE GET THERE.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF JUST IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

JUST HAVE A QUICK CHECK IN JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S COOL.

YOU GUYS OPPOSED TO THAT.

JUST A QUICK LITTLE ONE YEAR CHECK OUT, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING GOES WELL.

OKAY. WHY DON'T WE TRY THAT, TRY A TEN AND FIVE AND THEN READ INTO THE MOTION SOMETHING THAT GIVES US THE RIGHT TO REVISIT IT IF POLICE PLEASE GIVE US A BAD.

I'LL PROBABLY INCLUDE IN THE MOTION. I MEAN, I KNOW THEY'RE ALREADY REPRESENTING THIS, BUT THAT THEY'LL WORK WITH OUR POLICE STAFF IN ADVANCE TO HAVE THE BEST PLAN POSSIBLE GOING INTO THE EVENT.

YEAH, THAT WORKS FOR ME.

ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, WELL, THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMSON, YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT A SHOT? SURE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 6B, OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS RESOLUTION NUMBER 22-029 (ZA22-0045).

SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A MASS GATHERING EVENT FOR A CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL OUTDOOR AND FOLLOW THE STAR DRIVE THROUGH CHRISTMAS STORY ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 1R, BLOCK 1, WHITE CHAPEL METHODIST CHURCH EDITION, LOCATED AT 185 SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 25TH, 2022 IN THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED OCTOBER 14, 2022.

NOTING THAT WE ARE APPROVING THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TEN YEAR PERIOD FOR THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL AND A FIVE YEAR PERIOD FOR THE FOLLOW THE STAR EVENT PER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, NOTING THAT THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO MEET WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PLAN THE MOST APPROPRIATE TRAFFIC FLOW PROCESS FOR THIS EVENT, AND THAT THE FIVE YEAR APPROVAL IS ALSO CONTINGENT ON A POLICE REPORT FOLLOWING THE INCIDENT THAT THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC ISSUES AND IF THERE WERE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD COME BACK TO DISCUSS THOSE. SOUNDS GOOD.

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ALL RIGHT. ITEM 6B PASSES, 7-0.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO VISITING YOU GUYS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING AS THAT WE'RE PAST 7 P.M., I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 5 ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC FORUM.

[5. Public Forum.]

SO A REMINDER FOR ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC FORUM, WE HAVE 3 MINUTES.

WHEN YOU START SPEAKING, THE GREEN LIGHT GOES ON, AT ONE MINUTE LEFT, THE YELLOW LIGHT GOES ON, AND AT, WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, THE RED LIGHT STARTS FLASHING.

PLEASE DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO ME AND THE COUNCIL, NOT TO STAFF, NOT TO THE AUDIENCE, AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL RESPECTFUL BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE REMAIN, MAINTAIN DECORUM IN THE CHAMBERS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC FORUM AND I HAVE A COMMENT CARD FROM MR. ARNOLD YAN FROM 207 MEADOWLARK LANE.

SIR, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND THEN 3 MINUTES WE'LL BEGIN.

GOOD EVENING AND I'M ARNOLD YAN.

NINE YEARS, SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT.

AND IN 207 MEADOWLARK LANE. AND I'LL CUT THE GREETING BECAUSE YOU ONLY GIVE US 3 MINUTES BUT I PROBABLY NEED A TWO EPISODE.

AND A YEAR AGO BEFORE THE UVALDE SCHOOL MASS SHOOTING HAPPENS NOW.

BUT I ALSO BELIEVE OUR POLICE WILL ACT TO COWERING, HIDDEN IN THE SCHOOL HALLWAY AND NOT GO INTO CONFRONTING THE THE MASS SHOOTING TERRORIST IN THE SCHOOL.

AND SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME.

I DIDN'T REALIZE POLICE WERE BEHAVING LIKE THAT.

I DIDN'T REALIZE OUR SOUTHLAKE POLICE WERE UNDER PLAY A CHILD ABUSE CRIME SCENES WON'T REPORT IT AND JUST TRY TO COVER EVERYTHING UP.

I CAME TO THE SOUTHLAKE POLICE LAST YEAR AROUND THE NOVEMBER, TRIED TO REPORT A CHILD ABUSE ACCIDENT WITH BODILY INJURY.

I PRESENT THE VIDEO TO THE POLICE OFFICER AND THE FIRST, THE RESPONSE I GOT, POLICE SAY, SORRY, MR. YAN. IT HAPPENED MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO.

EXCEED THE STATUTE OF LIMITATION.

WE DON'T PROSECUTE ANYTHING MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO.

SOUNDS FAMILIAR, RIGHT? THAT'S A LIMITATION.

I DON'T KNOW THE LAW. I GOT FOOLED.

I BELIEVED THAT THERE'S NO GROUND FOR ME TO PURSUING THAT.

SO I SHOW THEM THERE'S ANOTHER ASSAULT I ENCOUNTERED WITHIN THE STATUTE OF LIMITATION.

I SAY I ALSO GOT INJURED.

YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT? OH.

THAT IS FINE. THEY WILL GO AHEAD WITH A REPORT.

THEN, CASE CLOSED.

NOTHING FURTHER. I WENT BACK HOME.

I CHECKED THE LAW. I SAY THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE CHILD WILL NOT REPORT.

IT'S A THREE YEAR OLD CHILD.

CHILD WILL NOT REPORT TO THE POLICE BY HIMSELF.

HOW CAN YOU SAY TWO YEARS LATER AND DOESN'T COUNT? I WANT TO CHECK THE TEXAS PENAL CODE FOR CHILD ABUSE WITH BODILY INJURY, THE STATUTE OF LIMITATION, 28 YEARS.

SO I WENT BACK TO POLICE.

I SAY, I STILL HAVE A STATUTE OF LIMITATION.

YOU JUST TELL ME IF THIS IS BODILY INJURY OR NOT.

POLICE SAY, NO, WE DON'T THINK THAT'S A BODILY INJURY.

CASE CLOSED. GO BACK.

FINE. AND I WENT BACK.

I PULL THE POLICE REPORT.

I FIND OUT OUR POLICE MADE A FALSE INFORMATION IN THE POLICE REPORT, THAT WHAT THE POLICE WERE SAYING.

I SHOWED A PICTURE WITH ONE SCRATCH AND A LIGHT REDNESS.

THERE'S MORE THAN ONE INJURY.

HE SAID THERE'S A ONE SCRATCH AND A LIGHTER REDNESS.

THERE'S NO ONE SINGLE WORDS EVER MENTION BLOOD ON THE REPORT.

THAT'S HOW THEY DOWNPLAYED.

SCRATCH, REDNESS, NOTHING BLOODY.

THEN THE POLICE SAID, I TRY TO ASK THE CHILDREN IF SOMEONE DID IT.

THAT MISLEADING.

I SHOW THE POLICE A VIDEO.

I DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION.

AND THE MOST MIRACLE THINGS IS, I WAS SPEAKING WITH MY CHILDREN, WITH CHINESE.

YOUR POLICE WERE NEVER ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING.

I DIDN'T SPEAK. I WOULD SPEAK IN CHINESE.

AND HE SAID, I SAY THAT.

THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S TRUE.

AND ALSO, POLICE SAID I SHOWED HIM A PICTURE WITH UNKNOWN PERSONS AND STATED, THAT'S MY ARM, THAT'S MY FACE OVER THERE.

IT'S NOT UNKNOWN PERSON.

WITH SO MUCH FALSE INFORMATION IN THE REPORT, THERE ARE NO WAY POLICE.

MR. YAN, YOUR TIME'S UP, SIR.

OKAY. I COME BACK FOR EPISODE TWO.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, MR. YAN, I CAN'T GIVE YOU MORE TIME.

I'D HAVE TO GIVE IT TO EVERYBODY, SO I DON'T KNOW.

WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT IN THE RECORD LATER.

SEND AN EMAIL TO THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE.

IS THERE? YES, MA'AM.

COME ON DOWN. OH, OKAY.

WELL, YOUR CARD, SAYS 4C, BUT YOU CAN COME ON DOWN FOR CONSENT.

ABSOLUTELY. A PUBLIC FORUM IS OPEN TO EVERYBODY.

COME ON DOWN. IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ONE MORE TIME FOR THE RECORD.

COLLEEN GOLESTAN, 708.

BRYSON WAY, 22 YEARS.

OK. AGAIN, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT CERTAIN RESIDENTS OF SOUTHLAKE ARE BEING TARGETED

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IT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE OF THE RAPIDLY CHANGING LAWS AT STATE, CITY AND ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.

SOUTHLAKE FAMILIES MAY BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED.

GENDER AFFIRMING FAMILIES ARE NOW ACCUSED OF ABUSE AND INVESTIGATED.

WE ALL PAY CITY, SCHOOL, COUNTY AND HOSPITAL TAXES.

YET THOSE GENDER AFFIRMING FAMILIES ARE AT RISK OF BEING, SORRY DENIED PRIVILEGES THAT OTHER TAXPAYERS ENJOY. AND ONE IS THAT THE RECREATION PROGRAMS WHICH ARE EXCELLENT.

BUT AGAIN, NOW, IF THAT COMES OUT, THEY'RE ABUSERS AND PREDATORS AND PEDOPHILES.

SO.

AND THEY ARE BEING DENIED PRIVILEGES THAT OTHER TAXPAYERS ENJOY.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

PERSONALLY, I DON'T KNOW ANY CURRENT FAMILIES MYSELF WITH GENDER NONCONFORMING MEMBERS.

AND.

BUT I DO KNOW FORMER RESIDENTS WHOSE YOUTH WERE BASICALLY WASTED AND DESTROYED, LIVING IN FEAR.

THIS IS NOT A PANDEMIC.

IT'S NOT CONTAGIOUS.

FAMILIES SHOULD BE SUPPORTED AND NOT STIGMATIZED.

THEY'RE REALLY NOT A THREAT TO ANYONE'S FAITH.

WE HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GOD OR JESUS WILL CONDEMN ANY FAMILY FOR LOVING AND SUPPORTING THEIR GENDER NON-CONFORMING NEIGHBORS.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT CHILDREN ARE AT PURITY, OR AT RISK, OR WILL BE IMPACTED ANY WAY.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN TONIGHT'S PUBLIC FORUM? SEEING NONE WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC FORUM AND MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9A.

[9.A. SV22-0011, Sign Variance for the Original Chop Shop located at 2101 E. Southlake.]

SIGNED VARIANCE FOR THE ORIGINAL CHOP SHOP .

INTERIM DIRECTOR KILLOUGH.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SIGNED VARIANCE ON THE BUILDING LOCATED AT 2101 E.

SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

IT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ORIGINAL CHOP SHOP , AS YOU MENTIONED.

THIS AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SITE.

IT'S LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF E.

SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND VILLAGE CENTER DRIVE.

AND THESE ARE SOME VIEWS OF THE BUILDING STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND THESE ARE ELEVATIONS OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SIGN VARIANCE WHICH GAVE THEM APPROVAL OF TWO UPPER STORY SIGNS, ONE ALLOWED ON THE NORTH FACADE AND ONE ALLOWED ON THE EAST FACADE AND ALSO GRANTED THEM APPROVAL OF THE MONUMENT SIGN LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY AS SHOWN HERE.

THIS IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT ALSO INCLUDED SOME COVE LIGHTING ALONG THE UPPER RIM OF THE BUILDING THAT IS RESTRICTED TO WHITE LIGHTING, ALTHOUGH IT'S REPRESENTED ON THESE ACCENTUATED.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE PROPOSED SIGNS RELATED TO THE CHOP SHOP .

ONE SIGN'S PROPOSED ON THE NORTH ELEVATION, TWO SIGNS ON THE WEST ELEVATION, AND THEN THEY ARE ADDING SOME VERTICALLY STRIPED AWNINGS ONTO THE WINDOWS ON THE WEST WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

THIS IS THE SIGN PROPOSED ON THE NORTH ELEVATION.

THEY ARE ASKING FOR LARGER THAN PERMITTED LETTER SIZE AS WELL AS LARGER THAN PERMITTED AREA, AS WELL AS A INTERNALLY LIT TAG LINE BOX SIGN.

THESE WOULD BE PUNCH THROUGH LETTERS ON A METAL BOX THAT WOULD BE LED LIT.

AND THIS IS THE ATTACHED SIGN ON THE WEST ELEVATION.

IT IS SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE NORTH ELEVATION, LIKEWISE ASKING FOR LARGER THAN PERMITTED LETTER HEIGHT SIGN AREA AS WELL AS THE TAG LINE.

AND ALSO ON THIS EXHIBIT YOU SEE THE VERTICALLY STRIPED AWNINGS BEING ADDED TO THAT FACADE.

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THEY ARE REQUESTING A LARGER THAN PERMITTED LOGO.

THE HEIGHT OF THAT SIX FEET, THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED BASED ON THE LETTER SIZE THEY ARE ALLOWED ON THE FACADE IS 20 INCHES. FOLLOWING P AND Z'S ACTION, OR EXCUSE ME, SIGN BOARD'S ACTION ON THIS ITEM, SIGN BOARD APPROVED THIS PLAN, REMOVING THE TAGLINE AND THEN RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPLICANT BRING A OPTION WITH A RENDERED VIEW FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD OF A FOUR FOOT DIAMETER LOGO OPTION, AS WELL AS THE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED SIX FOOT DIAMETER LOGO.

THE APPLICANT OPTED TO SUBMIT TO COUNCIL SOMETHING IN BETWEEN, SO THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A FIVE FOOT DIAMETER LOGO WITH THAT RENDERED VIEW FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

THEY ARE STILL REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE THE BOXED TAGLINE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO BE REMOVED BY SOME BOARD.

AS FAR AS THE VERTICAL AWNINGS PROPOSED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THOSE, BUT DID STIPULATE THAT THERE BE NO WRITING OR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE OR LOGOS ADDED TO TO THOSE AWNINGS.

THIS IS THE EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, AND IT IS CONFORMING WITH THAT APPROVAL.

THESE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF VARIOUS CHOP SHOP SIGNAGE.

AND THIS IS SIGN BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION.

AS NOTED, THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 7-0.

SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE TWO ATTACH SIGNS ON THE NORTH AND WEST FACADE, BUT REMOVING THE CABINET SIGN, WHICH INCLUDED THE TAGLINE.

ALSO NOTING THAT THE OPTION BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL OF A FOUR FOOT, SIX FOOT OPTION RENDERED WITH THE VIEW FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND THEN DICTATING NO WRITING ON THE AWNINGS.

WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DENNIS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. DON'T GO TOO FAR.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? COME ON DOWN.

MAYBE IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN GO AHEAD AND FILL IN ANY GAPS THAT WE MAY HAVE MISSED.

OKAY. I'M KATHERINE MOLTZ AND I LIVE AT 8522 FAIRWAY BEND IN BOERNE, TEXAS.

AND GARY, GARY DEVLEER, THE PROPERTY OWNER, HE WAS GOING TO BE HERE BUT HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT, SO HE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT.

BUT IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.

I KNOW ONE OF THEM MIGHT BE THE FACT THAT COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY ASKED US TO BRING IN A FOUR FOOT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO GO BACK, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAD US DO IS TO MEASURE THE HEIGHT OF EACH OF THOSE LETTERS, LIKE B O AND ORIGINAL AND THE C AND THE F, SO THAT THEY COULD KIND OF SEE THE HEIGHT OF THOSE.

TO SEE HOW TALL THEY WERE FOR VISIBILITY PURPOSES, AND THE O ENDED UP BEING PROBABLY LIKE AN INCH ON THE FOUR FOOT.

SO WE WANTED, WE WENT AHEAD AND DID FIVE FOOT BECAUSE WHAT WE HAD PRESENTED THEM WAS THE SIX FOOT OPTION AND THE O IN THE SIX FOOT OPTION WAS ONLY THREE INCHES TALL.

SO PRETTY SMALL COPY ON THOSE.

AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEIR LAYOUT KIND OF TENDS TO BE PAR FOR THE COURSE.

BUT, SO THAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND THAT.

I'M SORRY, WHICH 'O'ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

IN ORIGINAL ON SIGN B AT THE VERY TOP, THAT, THE LITTLE CIRCULAR LOGO.

STAFF HAD ASKED US WHAT THE HEIGHT OF THOSE LETTERS WERE.

AND I THINK IN ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT SHOWS THE HEIGHT OF THOSE.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF.

I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T WANT TO MESS UP YOUR.

LIKE THE O. THERE WE GO.

THE O AT THE TOP OF THE CIRCLE.

RIGHT. SO THAT O AT FIVE FOOT IS ALREADY ONLY IF THAT SAYS THREE, THREE AND AN EIGHT, AND THEN THE F IN FEEL GOOD IS TWO AND ONE HALF.

SO STAFF WANTED US TO MEASURE THOSE SO THAT THEY COULD KIND OF SEE THE VISIBILITY OF IT.

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YOU ALL HAVE LOCATION IN DALLAS ON HILLCREST BY SMU.

IS THERE ONE OF THESE? HOW DO THESE SIGNS MATCH UP WITH THAT STORE? BECAUSE I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE BUILDING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT SIGNAGE IS AT THAT LOCATION? IT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE.

SO WE ARE REALLY, BECAUSE OF THEIR COPY, THE ORIGINAL CHOP SHOP , HOW THEIR, HOW THEIR FONT IS, WHERE THE O'S, THE ORIGINAL COPY IS UPPERCASE, AND IT'S SO SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN CHOP SHOP .

WE REALLY ARE LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO.

LIKE SO WE KEEP IT ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT AT EVERY LOCATION OR WE TRY TO JUST BECAUSE IT GETS CHALLENGING WITH MANUFACTURING, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SCRIPT IN THE CHOP SHOP COPY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE LINES THAT CONNECT VIA CERTAIN SIZE TO BE ABLE TO FABRICATE THEM.

SO THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD IN ALL OF THOSE IN MOST LOCATIONS.

IT MIGHT REDUCE A LITTLE, BUT NOT MUCH.

BUT IN TERMS OF PROPORTION TO THE BUILDING, IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT.

THANK YOU. ON THE ROUND LOGO, THE ISSUE IS THE TOP TO BOTTOM OF THE CIRCLE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S WHY IT'S FOUR FEET, FIVE FEET, SIX FEET.

IT'S THE LETTERS THEMSELVES ARE WITHIN THE ORDINANCE OF THE 20 INCHES.

CORRECT. RIGHT. IT'S THEIR LAYOUT IS JUST REALLY, THE CIRCLE LAYOUT KIND OF.

CIRCLE IS WHAT. YEAH.

THESE AREN'T FOUR FOOT TALL LETTERS.

THEY'RE. THEY'RE LIKE THREE INCHES.

AND THEN THE CHOP SHOP IS THE COPY.

IT'S ONE FOOT.

LIKE THE C IN CHOP SHOP. HOW MANY INCHES IS THAT? ONE FOOT TWO.

EXACTLY. SO THAT'S 14 INCHES RIGHT.

AND THAT ON THE RIGHT, THAT IS THE ACTUAL BUILDING WITH THE RENDERING PUT ONTO IT.

YES. THAT'S WHAT IT WILL LOOK IT LOOKS LIKE THOUGH IN YOUR, IN THE PRESENT STAFF PRESENTATION, THE PHOTOS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CHOP SHOP LOCATIONS THAT WERE REPRESENTED, ABOUT 50% OF THEM DID NOT HAVE THE TAGLINE ON IT.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE, WITHIN YOUR FRANCHISE TO HAVE IT OR NOT HAVE IT.

I MEAN, YOU PREFER IT, OF COURSE, BUT.

YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING NEW THAT THEY KIND OF ADDED, I THINK TO ADD, BECAUSE THEIR CONCEPT IS YELLOWS AND BLUES AND YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THAT BOUTIQUE RESTAURANT TYPE FEEL. AND SO I THINK THEY ADDED IT TO HAVE LIKE AN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT THAT HAS SOME SORT OF COLOR BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, THEIR ORIGINAL CHOP SHOP COPY IS DARK BRONZE AND WHITE.

SO.

BUT THE TAGLINE THOUGH, I'M SAYING, IN LIKE HALF OF YOUR PHOTOS DID NOT HAVE THE TAGLINE.

YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY ADDED.

GOT IT. THANK YOU.

I COULD GO EITHER WAY ON THE TAG LINE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

AND I THINK, I MEAN, I USUALLY TEND TO BE PRO BUSINESS AND ADVERTISING WHAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER.

AND I'M FINE WITH THE FIVE FOOT LOGO.

I THINK THAT'S FINE, THE LITTLE ROUND ONE.

AND THERE IS SOME CONFUSION.

IN FACT, I WAS TALKING WITH ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER TONIGHT AND I SAID, I'M REALLY EXCITED THE CHOP SHOP IS COMING, HE SAID, BUT IT'S NOT THE STEAKHOUSE CHOP SHOP, IT'S THE SALAD BOWL PLACE.

SO I THINK THERE IS SOME VALUE TO THE, WHAT YOU SERVE ON THE LITTLE LIT BOX.

BUT I COULD GO EITHER WAY AND I'M FINE WITH THE REST OF THE SIGN PACKAGE.

SEE, THAT'S WHERE I AM.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CHOP SHOP.

WHEN I THINK CHOP CHOP, I THINK STEAKHOUSE.

SO TO ME THE TAGLINE MAKES SENSE.

WE GET THAT A LOT. I MEAN, I COULD GO EITHER WAY.

I TEND TO LEAN TOWARDS WHAT THE SIGN BOARD PROPOSED.

IT IS PRETTY SMALL.

AND IF YOU'RE, I MEAN, THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE SEEING THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING.

I THINK THIS WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT IF YOU WERE IN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE TOWN SQUARE WHERE YOU'RE WALKING AROUND AND YOU CAN GO, OH, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

BUT I COULD GO EITHER WAY.

YEAH, SEE, I THOUGHT THE SAME THING AS YOU COUNCILOR TALLEY.

IT'S LIKE NOBODY'S DRIVING BY AND GOING SO WHAT'S THE SIGN BOARD GIVE THEM, FIVE FEET? WELL, THE SIGN BOARD WANTS TO EXCLUDE THAT SIGN.

THE TAGLINE. THEY ASKED THEM TO COME BACK WITH FOUR FOOT.

THEY CAME BACK WITH FIVE.

NO. WHAT'S THE CABINET SIGN? YES. THE SIGN BOARD ASKED DOES THE ROUND WANT TO COME BACK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT ONES.

YOU'RE SAYING THE SIGN BOARD WANTED TO EXCLUDE THE TAGLINE? YES. BUT THEY WERE OKAY WITH FIVE FEET.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

RIGHT? YES.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FIVE.

NO, THEY ASK FOR A FOUR FOOT.

OH, THEY DID. AND THEY CAME BACK FOR A FIVE.

I DON'T HAVE A. I MEAN FIVE FEET LOOKS PROPORTIONATE, LOOKS GOOD.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT SIDE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT SIGN EITHER.

YES. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE TAGLINE OR NOT.

DOES ANYBODY FEELS STRONGLY ABOUT THE TAGLINE.

WHAT DOES IT SAY? SAY WHAT? WHAT DOES IT SAY? WHAT IS WHAT IS THE TAGLINE? I'M JUST CURIOUS. WHAT IS THE TAGLINE SAY? BOWLS, SALADS, SANDWICHES, SOUPS.

IT'S LIKE BASICALLY.

YOU CAN BACK IT UP.

IT'S IN THERE. YEAH, THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.

I DON'T LOVE THAT. IT JUST SEEMS BUSY TO ME.

THAT'S JUST ME. YEAH. AND IT ALSO, OTHER APPLICANTS ARE LIKE, WELL, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO PUT MINE OUT THERE.

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CAUTIOUS IS A NICE WORD. I KNOW. I'VE BEEN HERE A TIME OR TWO.

HAVE YOU? OKAY.

YOU MIGHT. YOU MIGHT USE ANOTHER WORD THAN CAUTIOUS.

BUT, YES.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TAGLINE UNDERNEATH THE CIRCLE.

IT SAYS SOMETHING IN THE CIRCLE AT THE BOTTOM.

IT'S LIKE, FEEL GOOD FOOD OR SOMETHING.

WHAT IS IT? FEEL GOOD FOODS.

FEEL GOOD FOODS? THAT'S KIND OF A LOGO.

I DON'T MIND THAT, BUT YEAH, I'M KIND OF WITH THE.

I'M NOT A HUGE.

YEAH. I MEAN, Y'ALL ULTIMATELY, I MEAN, ACTUALLY HAVE THE ULTIMATE SAY.

I'M ASKING TO BE NICE.

BUT. IT'S PROBABLY I THINK THE DIRECTION WE'RE DIRECTION.

YEAH. I FIGURED AS MUCH.

THAT'S FINE. IS IT A DEALBREAKER? OKAY. WELL I MEAN, NO.

I LIKE IT WITH THEIR COLORS.

BUT THAT'S. I MEAN.

BUT. YOU GUYS ARE THE BOSS, SO.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, ANY ISSUES? WE'RE GOING FIVE FOOT.

WE'LL LOSE THE BLUE TAGLINE.

SOUND GOOD? COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMSON, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE THAT. SO THIS IS.

I'M SORRY. NO, AFTER YOU, SIR.

THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. BUT IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE CROWD WISHING TO SPEAK, I'LL OPEN IT UP.

OK. SEEING NONE WE'LL CLOSE THE, NOT PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMSON, DID YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO MAKE? WELL, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IN MY MEETING NOTES THAT I HAVE, IS THAT ACCURATELY REFLECTED OF WHAT WE JUST LANDED ON? WHICH IS. YES.

OR SHOULD I MAKE A COUPLE NOTES ON IT THAT WE'RE EXCLUDING THE TAGLINE AND WE'RE APPROVING A FIVE FOOT VERSION OF THE.

THAT WOULD MAKE IT CERTAINLY MORE CLEAR IF YOU COULD REFERENCE P & Z'S RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVING A FIVE FOOT LOGO. AND THAT WOULD COVER EVERYTHING THAT I BELIEVE YOU DISCUSSED.

IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE TAG LINE AND APPROVE THE LOGO AT FIVE FEET.

OKAY. OR SIGNBOARD.

EXCUSE ME. I MEANT THE SIGNBOARD.

OKAY. MR. WILLIAMSON. YOU GOT IT.

THERE. OKAY, SO, DENNIS, STICK WITH ME ON THIS ONE.

MAKE SURE MAYOR AND COUNCIL I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

ITEM NINE. AYE. OTHERWISE REFERRED TO IS SRV 20 2-011 SIGN BRAINS FOR THE ORIGINAL CHOP SHOP LOCATED AT 20 101E SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

SUBJECT THE STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 25TH, 2022, NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING THE FOLLOWING VARIANCES LARGER THAN PERMITTED LETTER HEIGHTS AND SIGN AREA ON THE NORTH, WHICH IS SIGNED A ONE IN WEST SIGN A TWO FACADES OF THE BUILDING.

THE TAGLINE.

THE TAGLINE IS NOT APPROVED.

ANYWHERE IN THE BUILDING, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THERE WILL BE TWO SIGNS ON THE WEST FACADE.

WE'RE PERMITTING A TOTAL OF THREE SIGNS, NORTH AND WEST FACADES.

WHEN NORMALLY THERE ARE ONLY TWO PERMITTED ON A LEASE SPACE.

WE ARE ALLOWING A LOGO HEIGHT THAT IS LARGER THAN PERMITTED ON SIGN B ON THE WEST FACADE.

I'M ASSUMING SIGN B IS THE BIG ROUND SIGN.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE FIVE FOOT.

CORRECT. YEAH. AND THAT APPROVAL IS FOR A FIVE FOOT, TOP TO BOTTOM, SIGN.

AND WE'RE APPROVING SIX VERTICAL STRIPED FABRIC AWNINGS, C1, C2 AND D1, D2, D3 AND D4 ON THE WEST FACADE FIRST FLOOR WINDOWS AND DOOR.

AND I WOULD NOTE NO LETTERING OR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE ON THE AWNINGS.

OKAY. YEAH. AND NOTING ALSO NO LETTERING ON ANY OF THE AWNINGS.

SO, AGAIN, WE'RE APPROVING ALL THAT AND NOTING SPECIFICALLY AN APPROVAL OF A FIVE FOOT CIRCULAR SIGN, WHICH IS SIGN B AND NO TAGLINE APPROVALS IN THIS MOTION AND NO WORDING OR LETTERING ON ANY OF THE, ON THE FABRIC AWNINGS.

I HAVE THAT. I THINK I GOT IT.

TWO DIFFERENT TIMES, BUT I GOT IT.

SO.

OKAY, I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

9A PASSES, 7-0.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. LOOKING FORWARD TO TRYING OUT YOUR BOWLS, SALADS, SOUPS, JUICE, BREAKFAST.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. [LAUGHTER] WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 9B, WHICH IS SV-22-0012.

[9.B. SV22-0012, Sign Variance for the Learning Experience located at 100 River Oaks Drive, Southlake.]

DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR THE LEARNING CENTER.

IT'S LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND RIVER OAKS.

AS YOU STATED, 100 RIVER OAKS DRIVE.

THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SITE STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED UNDER THEIR ZONING UNDER (ZA21-0073).

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THIS IS A SIDE EXHIBIT SHOWING THE LOCATION OF PROPOSED SIGNS ON THE BUILDING.

THERE IS AN ATTACHED SIGN TO THE BUILDING FACADE HERE.

THERE ARE NUMERAL AND LETTER BLOCKS PROPOSED ON THE COLUMNS FOR THE BUILDING ENTRANCE AND THEN ANOTHER ATTACHED SIGN PROPOSED ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION.

AND THEN THERE IS A CONFORMING MONUMENT SIGN THAT IS PART OF THEIR SIGN PERMIT THAT THEY HAVE REPRESENTED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE ON THE EAST FACADE.

THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ATTACHED SIGN.

IT INCLUDES LETTER AND LOGO HEIGHTS LARGER THAN PERMITTED, AS WELL AS ILLUMINATED COLOR LETTERING FACE AND WHERE A NEUTRAL COLOR IS REQUIRED FOR ANY SIGNAGE LETTERING.

AND THIS IS THE BLOCK LETTERING PROPOSED ON THE COLUMNS.

THERE'S BLOCKS FOR NUMBERS 1, 2, 3, 4, AND A, B, C, D ON THE COLUMNS.

AND THIS IS THE SIGNAGE THAT'S PROPOSED, WAS PROPOSED, TO THE SIGN BOARD ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION, ALSO LARGER THAN PERMITTED LOGO HEIGHT ON THIS ONE, ALTHOUGH THE LETTERING WAS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THIS PARTICULAR SIGN. FOLLOWING SIGN BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION, THE APPLICANT HAS AMENDED THEIR REQUEST BEING PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING, ON THE BLOCK LETTERING ON THE COLUMNS.

THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT THESE BE NON ILLUMINATED CAST STONE WITH THE NUMERALS ON ONE COLUMN AND THE ALPHABET ON THE OTHER. THEY ARE STILL PROPOSING THE COLORED SIGNAGE AND LOGO ON THE EAST ELEVATION.

AND ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION FOLLOWING SIGN BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION, THEY HAVE REMOVED THE LOGO AND CHANGED THIS LETTERING TO FULLY CONFORMING LETTERING FOR THAT ELEVATION.

THIS WOULD BE INTERNALLY WHITE LIT CHANNEL CUT LETTERS.

AND THIS IS A CONFORMING MONUMENT SIGN SUBMITTED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.

THE SIGN BOARD'S APPROVAL FOR THIS.

THEY DID APPROVE IT 7-0 , SUBJECT TO SEVERAL ITEMS WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH AS SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN. THEY DID NOT APPROVE THE BLOCK LETTERING AND NUMERALS ON THE COLUMN.

THEY JUST DID NOT APPROVE THAT AT ALL.

ON THE ATTACHED SIGNAGE THEY GAVE THE APPLICANT THE OPTION TO PROVIDE CONFORMING LOGO HEIGHTS ON BOTH THE EAST AND SOUTH ATTACHED SIGNS AND ALLOW THE COLORED SIGNAGE AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, OR ALLOW THE SIGN ON THE EAST ELEVATION AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND CHANGED THE SOUTH ATTACHED SIGN TO THE WHITE INTERNALLY LIT CHANNEL CUT LETTERS THAT IS PRESENTED TO YOU THIS EVENING.

THIS COULD NOT BE A MORE COMPLICATED APPROVAL.

EVER. IT'S LIKE WE HAVE TO.

IT'S A CALCULUS.

I MEAN, WE'LL MAKE IT THROUGH DENNIS, TOGETHER.

THE OPTION THAT THE APPLICANT CHOSE OF THE TWO OPTIONS THEY GAVE THEM ON THE ATTACHED SIGNAGE WAS TO KEEP THE EAST ELEVATION'S ATTACHED SIGN AS IT WAS PROPOSED IN THIS MANNER.

AND THEN THEY REVISED THE SOUTH ELEVATION TO MAKE IT JUST A FULLY CONFORMING ATTACHED SIGN AS FAR AS THE TYPE OF FACE, FACE COLOR AND INTERNAL LIGHTING.

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THE ADDITION THAT THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED WITH WITH THE SIGNAGE ON THE EAST ELEVATION, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR THE THIRD SIGN THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING ON THESE NUMBER AND LETTER BLOCKS, THEY TOOK AWAY THE COLOR THAT WAS APPLIED TO IT AND ARE JUST MAKING A CAST STONE INSET THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TO THE BRICK COLUMNS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE.

SO THREE SIGNS. THE COLORED FRONT ON THE EAST SIDE, THE NON COLORED CONFORMING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

THE SOUTH SIDE. AND THEN THE CAST STONE.

CAST STONE COLUMNS.

GOT IT. GOT IT.

WE GOT IT. OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WELL, I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE SOME, SO STAY CLOSE.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? GOOD EVENING MR. CURT. IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD EVENING, CURT HORAK. PRIORITY SIGNS AND GRAPHICS, 605 VICKSBURG COURT, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

YEAH. I MEAN, REALLY, IT SEEMS A LITTLE COMPLICATED, BUT THE SOUTH, AS PROPOSED NOW, AMENDED AFTER THE SIGN BOARD.

THE SOUTH ELEVATION IS CONFORMING.

SO REALLY NO VARIANCE IS NEEDED ON THAT SIGN.

THE MONUMENT SIGN IS CONFORMING, SO NO VARIANCE IS NEEDED.

IT'S REALLY JUST THE EAST ELEVATION, WHICH CONFORMS TO THEIR MISSION AND THEIR OVERALL SIGNAGE.

IT'S IN LINE WITH THEIR MARKETING AND THEIR LOGO, SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE THAT.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON THE EAST ELEVATION AND THEN WE CHANGED THE BLOCKS.

YOU SEE A LOT OF BUILDINGS WITH CAST STONE NUMBERING LETTERS AND NO, NO SIGN REQUIRED, NO PERMIT REQUIRED.

SO THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY IT.

IT'S JUST EAST ELEVATION.

SO CAN YOU CLARIFY THEN ON THE EAST ELEVATION, WHAT VARIANCE ARE YOU ASKING FOR EXACTLY? THE VARIANCE IS FOR THE COLORS AND FOR THE LOGO HEIGHT.

THE LOGO MEANING THE ELEPHANT.

THE LETTER HEIGHT IS, WELL, EXCUSE ME, I'M ON THE WRONG ELEVATION.

ON THE EAST, THE LOGO.

LETTER HEIGHT AND LOGO HEIGHT AND COLOR.

RIGHT. SO ON THE EAST ELEVATION, THE LOGO IS TALLER AND THE LETTERS ARE SLIGHTLY LARGER.

AND THEY'RE NOT NEUTRAL.

THEY'RE NOT COLOR NEUTRAL.

SO THOSE THREE, HOW MANY SIGNS TOTAL ON THE EAST FACADE ARE YOU ASKING FOR? I MEAN, I CALL IT ONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE CHANGED IT TO CAST STONE.

SO THAT'S MORE DECOR TO ME.

DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THERE ARE, TECHNICALLY AND I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE.

THERE'S TECHNICALLY THREE SIGNS.

YEAH THAT'S WHAT I'M TO TRYING TO FIGURE. ON THAT EAST ELEVATION YOU'VE GOT THE TWO COLUMN GROUPS OF SIGN AND THEN THE ATTACHED SIGN.

SO THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A VARIANCE FOR THREE SIGNS.

YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.

OKAY. AND ON THE ABCD AND THE 1, 2, 3, 4.

WE'RE ASKING FOR CAST STONE AND GRAVE, BUT NO COLORS, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

OR NEUTRAL.

I THINK THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BLACK LETTERING.

1, 2, 3, 4.

ABCD. SO CAST STONE WITH SOME BLACK LETTERING.

BUT CONSIDERED NEUTRAL COLORING.

YEAH, I THINK CASTING WITH BLACK LETTERING MAKES IT PRETTY CLEARLY A SIGN.

OKAY.

DENNIS, WHAT DOES OUR ORDINANCE SAY ABOUT THE COLORS? I MEAN, IS THE, OR ANY OF THOSE COLORS NEEDING A VARIANCE, OR IS IT JUST THE MIX OF COLORS OR WHAT'S THE.

ANY NON, ANY SIGN THAT HAS LIGHTING EITHER EXTERNALLY APPLIED OR INTERNALLY APPLIED REQUIRES THE FACE OF THAT SIGN TO BE A NEUTRAL COLOR, WHICH IT COULD BE GREEN, OFF WHITE OR WHITE OR.

PRETTY MUCH IT. I MEAN, THERE'S A LITTLE LITTLE LEEWAY IN TERMS OF TONES, BUT IT REQUIRES A NEUTRAL COLOR.

RIGHT? ANY LIT ATTACHED SIGN.

NON LIT.

NON LIT CAN BE ANY COLOR AND YOU COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY A ATTACHED SIGN WITH AN APPLIED COLOR TO THE FACE OF THE SIGN AND THEN REVERSE LIT THERE AT NIGHT.

IT LOOKS LIKE A, JUST A SOLID COLOR.

NEUTRAL OR DARK.

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WELL, THEY'D PREFER TO KEEP IT ILLUMINATED.

YEAH. AND WE'RE STILL ABOVE SIZE.

RIGHT? ON THE ELEPHANT.

AND THE LETTERS ON THE EAST.

UH, YES. AND WHAT ABOUT THE TAG LINE? I MEAN, WE JUST HAD A SIGN CASE WHERE WE GOT RID OF THE TAGLINE.

THIS IS JUST NON LIT APPLIED CUT LETTERS, AND I BELIEVE IT DOES NOT CREATE ANY VIOLATION IN THE SIGN REGULATIONS FOR IT.

IT CONFORMS WITH THE SIGN ORDINANCE.

I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BRANDING.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THAT. BUT THIS IS LIKE EXTRAORDINARILY VITAL TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE.

I MEAN, TO THE POINT WHERE I DON'T EVEN SEE HOW WE COULD SLICE AND DICE THIS AND MAKE IT, AND GET TO A POINT TONIGHT WHERE IT'S SOMETHING THAT AT LEAST THAT I WOULD CONSIDER.

JUST. IT IS, THERE ARE SO MANY VARIANCES HERE AND THEY'RE PRETTY EXTREME.

I MEAN, I CAN'T THINK.

I MEAN, THIS EAST ELEVATION IS RIGHT IN THE LINE OF SIGHT IN 1709.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON GOING EAST FROM SOUTHLAKE TO KELLER IS GOING TO SEE THIS SIGN.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY, THE SOUTH ELEVATION FACES 1709.

YEAH, THIS IS THE CURVE AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN 1709 AND YOU'RE ROUNDING THE BEND FROM SPROUTS.

THIS IS THE BUILDING UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT. BUT YOU WON'T SEE THE EAST ELEVATION FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

I THINK YOU WILL.

CAN WE. DO YOU HAVE AN AERIAL? SURE SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE THAT'S A CORNER LOT.

I THINK EVERY SINGLE PERSON DRIVING DOWN 1709 WILL SEE THE SIGN.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE SIGN FACING SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO TURN INTO RIVER OAKS.

IT'S SOMEWHAT BLIND AND AND HIDDEN BY TREES, AND IT'S BACK IN THERE A LITTLE BIT.

SO AS YOU TURN IN AND YOU TURN IN THEIR PARKING LOT, YOU WILL SEE THE SIGN.

YES. ON THE EAST ELEVATION.

I HAVE NOT DRIVEN IT TODAY.

ACTUALLY, I DID DRIVE IT TODAY.

THAT'S NOT TRUE. I DID DRIVE IT TODAY.

I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SIGN FROM 1709.

TO HAVE IT SO MANY LIKE TECHNICOLOR.

I MEAN, I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE ONE ACROSS THE TOWN THAT WE'VE DONE THIS WITH, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

MAYBE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL CORRECT ME.

FOR ME, I WOULD MUCH PREFER TO TABLE THIS AND LET THEM TRY AGAIN TO BRING SOMETHING THAT'S MORE IN CONFORMANCE.

I MEAN, JUST THE BLOCK LETTERING, WHEN YOU GO WITH THE BLACK NUMBERS.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE NEUTRAL BLOCK LETTERING.

AND YES, WE DO HAVE ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, CAST STONE AND INSET AND BRICK, ALL THAT.

THIS IS NOT ADDRESS.

THESE ARE NOT ADDRESS BLOCKS. IT'S VERY CLEARLY PART OF THEIR SIGNAGE.

SO, I WOULD PREFER TO TABLE THIS AND LET THEM TAKE A CRACK AT BRINGING SOMETHING A LITTLE CLOSER, BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS JUST.

I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO OTHER THAN TAKE OUT 80% OF THE REQUEST.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT.

I TALKED ABOUT IT AT CORRIDOR, WE SPOKE TO ALL THE BRIGHT COLORS AND THOSE ISSUES AND I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER THAT.

AND SO IT'S A LOT.

IT'S A LOT THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY APPROVE.

SO WHEN WE APPROVED IT HERE, WE SAID, THAT SIGN'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

I MEAN, YEAH, WE DID LOOK AT THAT.

DIDN'T WE. THE BUILDING LOOKS GREAT, BUT WE SAID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THAT SIGN'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

WELL, I MEAN, ACCORDING TO MY NOTES, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT FIVE VARIANCES HERE, MORE THAN TWO SIGNS ON A BUILDING, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE FOUR SIGNS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COUNT THE COLUMNS, THREE SIGNS ON THE EAST FACADE, WHICH IS ALSO A VARIANCE, LARGER THAN PERMITTED LETTER HEIGHTS, LARGER THAN PERMITTED LOGO HEIGHTS AND ILLUMINATION OF MULTI COLOR CHANNEL LETTERS THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED IN THE SIGN ORDINANCE.

I MEAN IT'S CHALLENGING TO FIND WHAT IS IN CONFORMANCE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO WORK WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION HERE, BUT ALMOST EVERY PIECE OF THE ORDINANCE IS BEING VARIANCED HERE.

YEAH. SO LET ME ASK YOU.

SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE SOUTH ELEVATION IS CONFORMING AS PROPOSED.

THE EAST ELEVATION, IF IT'S NON LIT, THEN ITS CONFORMING, CORRECT, OTHER THAN THE LETTER HEIGHT? WELL ONE OF THE FIVE VARIANCES GOES AWAY.

YOU STILL GOT THE OTHER FOUR.

I'M SORRY. YOU STILL HAVE THE OTHER FOUR VARIANCES.

IT'S GOT MORE THAN ONE SIGN, THE LETTER HEIGHTS AND THE LOGO HEIGHTS.

EVEN IF IT'S NOT LIT ARE THOSE COLORS IN CONFORMANCE, THOUGH.

YES, IF ITS ILLUMINATION, THEY CAN MAKE IT MULTICOLORED LIKE THAT.

IF IT'S NON LIT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LOGO.

THE LOGO IS EXEMPT FROM COLOR ISSUES, BUT OF COURSE THAT DOESN'T MEET THE SIZE REQUIREMENT.

BUT AS FAR AS LETTERING AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE A NEUTRAL LIT COLOR.

IF THEY'RE NON LIT. CORRECT.

IT COULD BE ANY COLOR.

I THINK CURT, AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE'RE MORE COMFORTABLE TABLING THIS AND LETTING THEM TAKE A CRACK AT GETTING CLOSER TO THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT.

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OF THAT, I AM CONVINCED. BUT ALSO, IF I'M ANOTHER TENANT IN THAT SPACE OR ANY OTHER BUSINESS AROUND TOWN, YOU KNOW THIS, YOU DO THIS, YOU COME BEFORE US ALL THE TIME.

AND YOU KNOW, WE, CITY COUNCIL PUTS THE BUSINESS THROUGH ITS PACES AND GIVES THEM A HARD TIME.

I MEAN, THE CHOP SHOP, RIGHT, THE CASE RIGHT BEFORE YOU.

AND THEN WE LET THEM HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT VARIANCES ON ONE BUILDING, ONE FACADE OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S JUST, IT'S TOO MUCH.

SO. SO CAN I JUST ASK.

SURE. MR. MAYOR.

SO. YOU KNOW, THEY'D LIKE TO KEEP IT MOVING.

OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE SIGNAGE AND SO.

I MEAN, WOULD IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE AS FAR AS APART AS MAYBE THE DISCUSSION IS GOING. IF THEY REMOVE THE COLUMN SIGNAGE AND JUST ASK FOR THE EAST ELEVATION SIGNAGE TO BE APPROVED, DOES THAT GET US CLOSER TO SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD WORK WITH? I MEAN, I'M STILL STRUGGLING.

THAT'S ONE STEP.

I'M PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT THE SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED.

I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST FOR THE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE BIG PROBLEM IS WITH THE EAST ELEVATION AND THE BIG SIGN, YOU KNOW, THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE WITH THE LOGO.

IF YOU COULD DO THAT IN NEUTRAL COLORS FOR THE WORDING AND GIVE US THAT OPTION TO LOOK AT.

I THINK THE COLORS, ALL THE COLORS, IS WHAT'S GIVEN SOME HEARTBURN UP HERE.

SO IF YOU COULD PRESENT AN OPTION TO JUST GO WITH NEUTRAL COLORS, YOU CAN STILL LIGHT IT UP WITH THE NEUTRAL COLORS AND YOU CAN LIGHT UP THE LOGO, RIGHT, DENNIS? CORRECT. YES.

AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE COLOR LOGO? YEAH. IF YOU GET RID OF THE COLORS ON ALL THE WORDS AND ALL THE LETTERS, I THINK I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT OR I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

AND GET THE SIZE RIGHT.

AND THIS IS WHAT I MEAN.

WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO SLICE AND DICE THIS.

I MEAN, I THINK I CAN VISUALIZE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO SEE IT.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO SEE IT.

SO HERE'S WHAT I'D BE WILLING TO DO.

I'M OKAY APPROVING THE SOUTH ELEVATION AND MOVING FORWARD, BUT NOT THE EAST ELEVATION.

I'M JUST NOT THERE. I GOT TO SEE IT.

FRANKLY, I WANT TO SEE IT WITH.

I'D RATHER TABLE AND DO IT ALL IN ONE.

I MEAN, I WOULD TOO.

I JUST WORRY ABOUT THE TIME.

AND IF WE COME BACK WITH ANOTHER PROPOSAL AND IT'S NOT IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WE'VE WASTED.

BUT IN FAIRNESS, THEY SHOULD HAVE REALLY BROUGHT A PACKAGE THAT WAS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CORRIDOR OR OUR PRIOR APPROVAL OR I MEAN, THEY HAD A LOT OF BITES AT THIS APPLE THAT REALLY THIS WASN'T EVEN CLOSE ON.

RIGHT. SO. I MEAN, THIS WAS IN LINE WITH THE SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDATION.

SO SIGN BOARD DID RECOMMEND EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE COLUMNS.

OKAY. WELL, I MEAN.

I MEAN, IF WE ELIMINATE THE COLUMNS AND WENT WITH THE SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDATION.

I'M NOT THERE. I'M 100% I'D BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH COLORED NEUTRAL LIKE HE SAID THAN I AM NON COLORED THIS COLOR.

BUT MAYOR, I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF APPROVING THE SOUTH ELEVATION SO THEY CAN HAVE A SIGN THAT FACES 1709.

I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT.

THE MONUMENT SIGN THE MONUMENT SIGN IS FINE.

SO WE CAN APPROVE TWO OF THEM TONIGHT AND THEN JUST COME BACK ON THE EAST.

BUT I THINK YOU'RE HERE AND YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THIS AND HEAR ALL THE COMMENTS.

IT JUST GOT TO BE WAY CLOSER TO ELIMINATE MOST OF THE VARIANCE.

CAN WE GIVE THEM SOME DIRECTION, THOUGH, ON THE LETTER HEIGHT AND THE LOGO HEIGHT? I DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT FOR SIZE.

JUST HELP THEM A LOT AND REFIGURING BECAUSE.

WELL, I REALLY FEEL LIKE IN THIS, ON THIS DEPICTION, IT'S TOO BIG ON THAT SPACE, IT'S TOO BUSY, IT'S HUGE, IT'S COLORFUL.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE ACADEMY OF EARLY EDUCATION.

THERE'S A REASON THAT WE WANT IT TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WORKS AT ALL.

AND, I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE GAVE THEM PLENTY OF TIMES TO GET THIS RIGHT.

I'D BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH CONFORMING LETTER SIZE.

A LIT LOGO IS FINE, BUT GET THE SIZE RIGHT AND THEN GET THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE NEUTRAL AND LIT.

THAT'S WHERE I AM. YOU SAID COLOR.

YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE COLOR LOGO.

I THINK WE HAVE TO BE OKAY WITH THE COLOR LOGO IF THEY GET THE SIZE RIGHT.

ISN'T THAT RIGHT, DENNIS? BY LOGO YOU JUST MEAN THE ELEPHANT.

THE ELEPHANT. JUST THE ELEPHANT. THE ELEPHANT.

I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE I AM THE BRIGHTNESS AND COLOR.

I THINK IF YOU.

I'M FINE WITH THE COLUMNS IF YOU MAKE THEM NEUTRAL, GET THIS NEUTRAL AND MAKE IT.

I'M FINE WITH IT BEING SEEN FROM 1709, AS LONG AS IT'S PALATABLE TO BE SEEN.

I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT THIS WILL BE GLARING FROM 1709, IN MY OPINION.

BUT THE COLORS WORK THOUGH, IF IT'S NOT LIT, CORRECT? SURE. WELL, I'D RATHER SEE LIT NON COLORED THAN.

I AGREE. UNLIT COLOR.

I AGREE. CURT.

I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHOW SOME OPTIONS TOO.

OKAY. SO.

SO LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS.

TRY TO BRING US THREE OR FOUR OPTIONS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT, THAT'LL AT LEAST GIVE US SOME OPPORTUNITY TO VISUALIZE.

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IF YOU WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? YEAH, IT'D BE HELPFUL.

OKAY. ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH THAT? SO WE CAN APPROVE THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MONUMENT AND THEN JUST WE'RE GOING TO.

DO WE NEED, WELL, DO WE NEED TO TABLE THE WHOLE CASE OR CAN WE? WHERE'S THE MONUMENT? AM I MISSING A MONUMENT? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE TWO COLUMNS.

YEAH, IT'S ON ANOTHER PAGE.

YOU COULD, YOU COULD APPROVE PORTIONS OF IT AND TABLE ACTION ON THE EASTERN ELEVATION TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.

IS THAT TWO MOTIONS OR CAN YOU DO THE MOTION CAN ENCOMPASS BOTH.

OKAY. AND THE NEXT MEETING, THE SAME CASE WILL BE BEFORE US.

YES, SIR. OK. OK.

COUNCILWOMAN. SO, DENNIS, THE MONUMENT SIGN IN THE SOUTH SIGN ARE FULLY CONFORMING.

IT'S A SIMPLE MOTION.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THEY COULD. AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY.

YOU GUYS GOOD WITH THAT? TABLING THE EAST.

THE EAST. TABLING ACTION ON THE EAST ELEVATION.

OK. THANK YOU, CURT.

APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU.

WHAT'S THAT? YEAH.

IS THERE A PUBLIC HEARING? NO, THERE'S NOT.

COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMSON. YOU WANT TO GIVE IT A SHOT? SURE. MAYOR, COUNCIL.

I MOVE THAT WE TAKE TWO ACTIONS WITH THIS MOTION REGARDING TO ITEM 9B, OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS SV-22-0012.

SIGN VARIANCE FOR THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE LOCATED AT 100 RIVER OAKS DRIVE, SOUTHLAKE.

SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 25TH, 2022.

FIRST ACTION'SS WILL BE APPROVING THE SOUTH FACADE SIGNAGE AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

WE'LL ALSO BE APPROVING THE MONUMENT SIGNAGE AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

AND THE SECOND ACTION IS WE'LL BE TABLING ANY ITEMS RELATED TO THE EAST FACADE OR ANY OTHER ITEMS IN THE STAFF REPORT UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING ON NOVEMBER 15.

FOR THE APPLICANT TO BRING BACK OPTIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONVERSATION AND SUGGESTIONS THIS EVENING.

THAT'LL WORK. OK. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES 7-0.

SO WE GOT A COUPLE OF APPROVALS AND WE'LL SEE YOU GUYS NEXT MEETING.

AND THAT IS THE LAST ITEM FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

SO THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.