Nov 03, 2022 Planning and Zoning Commission

[1. Call to Order. ]

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GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

IT IS 6:33 P.M.

NOW 6:34 P.M.

HERE, NOVEMBER 3RD, 2022.

WELCOME TO THE CITY SOUTHLAKE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

MY NAME IS DAN KUBIAK, CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE.

SINCE WE DON'T SEE A VERY OVERFLOWING GALLERY, I'LL SKIP SOME OF THE USUAL PLEASANTRIES ABOUT HOW ALL THIS PROCESS WORKS.

SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE GALLERY MAY HAVE AN IDEA OR TWO AS TO HOW THE PROCESS GOES HERE.

SO WITH THAT, DENNIS, I'LL MAYBE SKIP TO YOU ON ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS.

[3. Administrative Comments. ]

I THINK WE DO HAVE A WE DO HAVE A CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY.

NEXT WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

YEAH, NEXT WEDNESDAY.

[INAUDIBLE] ON THAT COMMITTEE SHOULD RECEIVE YOUR REPORTS TOMORROW.

WEDNESDAY THE 9TH. YES.

5:30 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

YES, CHAIRMAN.

ALL RIGHT. AND I GUESS WE HAVE ONE MORE MEETING TO GO FOR PLANNING AND ZONING IS TWO WEEKS THIS YEAR, AND THEN THAT'S THE CALENDAR.

THAT WILL BE NOVEMBER 17TH AND THEN NO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS UNTIL JANUARY 5TH.

ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY WILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT IN SUSPENSE UNTIL JANUARY.

WITH THAT I THINK THERE'S NO CHAIRMAN COMMENTS EXCEPT THE ONLY THING I'D SAY AND MAYBE WE'LL WAIT UNTIL THERE'S MORE FORMAL

[4. Chairman Comments. ]

BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY HAPPY TO HAVE DENNIS HERE.

AND I KNOW NOTHING WILL REALLY SKIP A BEAT HERE, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF KNOWLEDGE, I THINK.

DENNIS YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN KEN, SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE DEEPER KNOWLEDGE BASE, RIGHT? THAT'S HARD TO DO, BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU BET. YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL WAIT FOR A MORE FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT AND THEN HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTARY THERE.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA, THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

EVERYBODY'S BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THOSE MINUTES.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THOSE BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 20TH, 2022.

MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. PASSES 5-0.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

[6. Consider: ZA22-0053 Final Plat for Carillon Pare Phase 1A property described as Tracts 1, 1D, 1E, 1F, 1G, 3A, 3A01, 3A03, 3A04, 3A04A, 3A05, and 3A01B, Larkin H. Chivers Survey, Abstract No. 300, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 1775, 1781 and 1801 N. White Chapel Blvd., 1840 Riviera Ln., 201 E. Kirkwood Blvd., 1700 N. Carroll Ave. (addressed as 1900 N. Carroll Ave. by Tarrant Appraisal District) and 100 through 300 E. State Hwy. 114, generally located east of N. White Chapel Blvd., south of E. Kirkwood Blvd., west of Riviera Ln., and north of E. State Hwy. 114. ]

ITEM NUMBER SIX, FINAL PLAT FOR [INAUDIBLE] PARK.

DENNIS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ITEM IN OUR WORK SESSION JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO AND SOME MORE DETAIL.

SO I THINK JUST HIGHLIGHTING MAYBE ONE OR TWO SLIDES AND MAYBE JUST CONFIRMING THAT THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL PREVIOUS APPROVALS, I BELIEVE THAT IS THAT IS CORRECT.

YES, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE APPROVALS.

THIS IS A FIRST SHEET OF THE THREE PAGE PLAT.

THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROPOSED CAROLINE PHASE ONE A CAROLINE PARK PHASE ONE A THIS IS SHEET TWO OF THE THREE PAGE PLAT WHICH CONSISTS OF THE NON RESIDENTIAL PORTIONS AND IT IS JUST A PARTIAL FINAL PLAT OF WHAT IS ALL INCLUSIVE OF THE NONRESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE CAROLINE PARK PHASE OR PORTION OF THE CAROLINE PARK DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY. THIS WOULD COME BACK LATER AS FURTHER PLANS DEVELOP ON THE LIBRARY PERFORMING ARTS SITE AS WELL AS THE OTHER PARK AND OPEN SPACE AND COMMERCIAL AREAS, AND WOULD COME BACK WITH A FUTURE FINAL PLAT ON ON ONE OR MORE PORTIONS OF THAT IN THE FUTURE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

DENNIS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS ON THE SIDE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT WHO I DO SEE IN THE GALLERY? YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION I'VE GOT AND I KNOW THIS IS A A MOVING TARGET, I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT THE PROJECTED TIMING IS ON SOME OF THIS ACTIVITY.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING WITH A STEERING COMMITTEE.

[INAUDIBLE] WELL, I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT IS USUALLY VERY BASHFUL, SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT TO GET HIM TO TALK.

BUT I TRY TO KEEP MY QUESTION TO ASK HIM ANYWAY, TRY TO KEEP SOME RELATIVELY JUST GET A GENERAL SENSE OF WHAT YOU SEE AS POTENTIAL TIMING BASED ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT THE OUTLOOK IS FOR YOU AND THE PARTIES INVOLVED.

AND WE WILL NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE REFERENCE.

I WAS ALL PREPARED. I DO STILL REMEMBER THAT, BUT I'M JOHN [IANIDBLE].

ADDRESS 1710 HUNTERS CREEK HERE IN SOUTH LAKE.

BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE TIMING.

RIGHT NOW WE LOOK LIKE WITH PLAT APPROVAL WE WILL GET THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PROBABLY IN THAT FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME WHEN WE CAN TRULY BREAK GROUND AND START THE CONSTRUCTION.

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JUST SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE, WE ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT WITH FIVE INCREDIBLE CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS, WHICH I THINK THE CITY IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY HAPPY TO HAVE.

THERE WERE RUMORS EARLY ON THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE DOING SOMETHING WITH A CUSTOM HOME BUILDER.

WE HAVE FIVE OF THE HIGHEST FOLKS AND ONE OF THEM'S HERE THIS EVENING.

BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST AN INCREDIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE NINE MONTHS.

THEN WE'LL START GOING. WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH OUR 3E AGREEMENT WITH COUNCIL.

THE THOSE ARE KIND OF THE TWO OUTSTANDING THINGS BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY START GOING VERTICAL AND AND ACTUALLY EVEN START THE HORIZONTAL, WE GOT TO HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF ON THE 3E AGREEMENT.

I THINK WE WILL HAVE THAT DONE BEFORE THE END OF FEBRUARY, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO GET THAT STARTED FOR THE NINE MONTH HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THINGS WILL START GOING VERTICAL. I WILL TELL YOU, JUST IN GENERAL, WE'RE INCREDIBLY ENCOURAGED WITH THE INTEREST THAT WE HAVE ON ALL AREAS OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'RE ALREADY IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS, FOLKS THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN DOING THE CONDO OVER RETAIL, FOLKS THAT ARE PEOPLE THAT DID OFFICE BUILDINGS IN SOUTH LAKE ALREADY THAT WE'RE TALKING WITH.

AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU'VE GOT THE LIBRARY AND THE PERFORMING ARTS.

SO IT'S MOVING ALONG RAPIDLY.

AND I THINK SOME OF AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS HOLDING US UP IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE LIBRARY AND THE PERFORMING ARTS IS GOING TO BE, HOW BIG THEY'RE GOING TO BE, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE SITUATED.

EXACTLY, BECAUSE THAT REALLY INFORMS A LOT OF THE REST OF THE ENGINEERING TO THE WEST.

UNTIL WE GET THAT SET, WE CAN'T FINISH SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BUT WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON RENDERINGS AND YOU WILL BE RECEIVING AN INVITATION AS A P&Z.

WE ARE HAVING A CEREMONIAL GROUNDBREAKING NOVEMBER 17TH AT 11 A.M..

WE'LL BE SENDING OUT INFORMATION.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH THE MAYOR AND A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THAT.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE A TENT OUT THERE, PROBABLY A COUPLE OF HUNDRED PEOPLE.

FEED, STORE, BARBECUE, WHICH IS A STAPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE'LL PROBABLY ALSO HAVE 1956 PIZZA AND WE'VE GOT SOME KIND OF SPECIAL THINGS.

THE BUILDERS ARE ALL GOING TO BE THERE.

THEY'LL HAVE RENDERINGS OF SOME OF THEIR PRODUCT.

WE WILL HAVE BY THAT POINT ALSO, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T AND I ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M VERY CLEAR OUR RENDERINGS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW AS THE LIBRARY AND PERFORMING ARTS ARE NOTHING BUT CONCEPT VISION THAT IT COULD BE.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE TASK FORCE ABOUT WHAT THAT ULTIMATELY IS GOING TO BE AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE SITUATED.

SO YOU'LL BE RECEIVING THOSE INVITATIONS AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE I CAN GO ON FOR A LONG TIME.

OH, YES, YOU CAN.

WE MIGHT.

AND IT DID NOT WORK WELL, FROM A VIDEO PERSPECTIVE FROM MONTANA.

BUT I ACTUALLY ENJOYED BEING IN MONTANA.

THANK YOU. UNDERSTOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE FORMER MAYOR? AND YOU WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST MAYOR, FORMER MAYOR TO FILIBUSTER IN HERE? I THINK, AS YOU KNOW, AT LEAST NOT IN THIS MEETING.

ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING OR GO AHEAD TO OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING TO ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

AND SEEING NO ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

THE MOTION WITH SOME UPDATED STAFF REPORT DATES AS WELL.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE NUMBER ZA 20 2-0053 SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 31ST, 2022 AND THE PLAT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER ONE, DATED OCTOBER 28TH, 2022.

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE SECOND? GOOD VOTE, PLEASE.

5-0 CONGRATULATIONS.

GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT STEP, WHICH, WITHOUT KEN HERE TO PICK ON, I THINK IS NOVEMBER 15TH.

TUESDAY, I BELIEVE, WOULD BE THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

OK NO CITY COUNCIL NEEDED.

GOT YOU. OKAY, WELL, THAT'S DENNIS ALREADY SHOWING OFF HIS KNOWLEDGE HERE.

I'M SURE KEN WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT, TOO.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HERE AT 6:43.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.