Nov 08, 2022 SPIN Town Hall Forum

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

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THE PURPOSE OF SPIN IS TO GAIN FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS ON DEVELOPMENT RELATED PROJECTS AND OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY.

[1. Call to Order: Video Introduction of SPIN Program by Southlake Mayor John Huffman]

SPIN IS STREAMED LIVE THROUGH SOUTHLAKE TV ON THE CITY'S MAIN WEBSITE, CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

COM. AFTER OUR APPLICANT PRESENTATIONS, THOSE IN ATTENDANCE WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CAN USE THE MICROPHONES IN THE AISLE TO ASK THE APPLICANT WHATEVER THEY MIGHT LIKE.

NEXT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SHOW A BRIEF VIDEO INTRODUCTION OF THE SPIN PROGRAM BY SOUTHLAKE MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN.

[VIDEO] GOOD EVENING.

I'M SOUTHLAKE MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT'S SPIN TOWN HALL FORUM.

THE ITEMS PRESENTED AT SPIN REPRESENT IDEAS OFTEN IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THIS CONVERSATION STARTS HERE FIRST WITH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPER.

THERE ARE NO VOTES TAKEN AT SPIN AND NO DECISIONS ARE MADE.

SPIN IS SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE.

AND ONCE THE MEETING IS OVER, BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ARE PROVIDED WITH A SPIN MEETING REPORT THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE DISCUSSION FROM TONIGHT. WE TAKE YOUR IMPRESSIONS AND QUESTIONS INTO ACCOUNT WHEN CONSIDERING ANY ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE US FURTHER ALONG IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION TO HELPING MAKE SOUTHLAKE A BETTER PLACE.

HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

FOR RESIDENTS THAT COULD NOT ATTEND THIS EVENING IN PERSON.

WE DID CREATE A ONLINE QUESTION AND COMMENT FORM THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE ABLE TO FILL OUT THAT WILL BE EMAILED DIRECTLY TO ME.

SO THROUGHOUT THE MEETING I'LL GO AHEAD AND CHECK MY EMAIL AND I'LL READ THESE ONLINE COMMENT FORMS TOWARDS THE END OF THE IN-PERSON QUESTION AND ANSWER PORTION OF THE MEETING.

[2. SPIN2022-21 - St. Martin in the Fields Episcopal Church is proposing changes to their master plan under their current zoning on property located at 223 S. Pearson Lane within SPIN Neighborhood #11.]

MICHAEL VOIT IS HERE TO PRESENT THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN 2022-21.

SAINT MARTIN IN THE FIELDS EPISCOPAL CHURCH IS PROPOSING CHANGES TO THEIR MASTER PLAN UNDER THEIR CURRENT ZONING ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 223 SOUTH PEARSON LANE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DELIGHTED TO BE HERE ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT DAY FOR OUR NATION, STATE AND OUR COMMUNITIES.

I'M JOINED HERE THIS EVENING BY MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH AND MEMBER, REPRESENTATIVE CLAYMORE ENGINEERING.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS MICHAEL VOIT.

I'M WITH VLK ARCHITECTS.

HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT SAINT MARTIN IN THE FIELDS EPISCOPAL CHURCH AND I CAME TO KNOW ST MARTIN'S A LITTLE BIT AGO.

AND I WAS TAKEN BY THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND SPIRIT WITH WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY.

IT'S AN INTERESTING PROCESS I THINK WITH THEM.

SO OFTEN WE SEE OF GRAND MASTER PLANS AND GRAND VISIONS THAT I THINK LEAD TO BIGGER AND BIGGER THINGS.

WHAT STRUCK ME AS AS FRANKLY, SOMETHING UNUSUAL AND REALLY WORTHWHILE WAS THE CHURCH HAD A MOMENT OF REFLECTION AND THEY THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE THOSE SORTS OF VISIONS OF THAT GRAND PICTURE WAS NOT WHERE THEY WANTED TO GO.

THEY WANTED TO STEP BACK AND FOCUS MORE ON THE COMMUNITY OF THE CHURCH AND A DIFFERENT SENSE AND SPIRIT OF OF THE FUTURE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO LEAD YOU THROUGH JUST A BRIEF TOUCH ON THAT AND JUST MENTIONED WHAT THE CHURCH IS LOOKING TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

THIS IS IN TERMS OF THAT VISION, WHAT THE CHURCH IS LOOKING TO DO.

BACK IN 1999-2000, THEY WERE LOOKING AT ADDING NUMEROUS FACILITIES AND ELEMENTS TO THEIR SITES.

AND IT HAS SINCE BECOME APPARENT TO THEM THAT THAT'S MAYBE NOT THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WANT TO GO.

SO THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE CITY IN THEIR 1999 CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND DEVELOPED A ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THEIR SITE.

BUT SINCE THEY'VE DECIDED TO PULL BACK FROM THAT, AND SO THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT NOW.

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THE SLIGHTLY DARKER COLOR SHAPES AROUND THE AROUND THE LEFT BUILDING, WHICH IS THE SANCTUARY BUILDING, REPRESENTS MINOR ADDITIONS OF A COLONNADE AND A PROPOSED TOWER AND A NEW ENTRANCE, ESSENTIALLY TAKING THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE THERE AND AND TOUCHING ON THOSE AND BUILDING ON THOSE AND LEAVING THE REMAINING SITE FOR OPEN SPACE AND SPORTS FACILITIES AND FIELDS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

THE EXISTING PARKING THAT IS IS THERE REMAINS IS THE OVERALL GROWTH OF THE FACILITY THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS REALLY ONLY GOING FROM ABOUT 171 SEATS TO 250 SEATS.

SO IT'S A RATHER SMALL CHANGE IN THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES OR THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE.

BUT TO DO THAT, REALLY ALL THE GROWTH FOR THE SANCTUARY IS IS INTERNAL TO THAT SANCTUARY.

ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT IN STUDYING THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT WE DISCOVERED WAS THE SETBACK OF THE SANCTUARY. AND YOU'LL SEE IN A MOMENT A PROPOSED BELL TOWER FALL ESSENTIALLY WITHIN THE THE LIMITS THAT ARE DEFINED BY THE CITY FOR THOSE SETBACKS.

SO ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE GOING FORWARD IS TO ALLOW FOR THE CURRENT SETBACK THAT'S DEFINED BY THE WHERE THE CHURCH IS RELATIVE TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY LINES TO BASICALLY BE ALLOWED AND TO ALLOW FOR THE PROPOSED BELL TOWER WITHIN THE LIMITS, BASICALLY IN SHORTER LIMITS FROM WHAT THE CITY DEFINES.

FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE 130 FOOT SETBACK OFF OF PEARSON LANE AND THE CITY HAS STATED THAT THEY WANT 175 FEET.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH THE CITY IS TO ALLOW FOR THAT EXISTING 130 FOOT SETBACK.

THIS IS A PROPOSED OR CONCEPTUAL ELEVATION FROM THAT PARKING LOT LOOKING TO THE SANCTUARY.

AND IT HIGHLIGHTS A NEW ARCADE PROPOSED FOR THE FACILITY THAT HELPS TO UNIFY BOTH ARCHITECTURALLY AND ALSO LITERALLY IN SUPPORTING THE CONGREGATION AND ACCESS BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AT THE AT THE CHURCH.

AND THEN THE FOCAL POINT, OR AT LEAST ONE OF THEM WOULD BE A PROPOSED BELL TOWER NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE WEST FACE OR WEST FACADE OF THE CHURCH.

AND AGAIN, BE A MARKER AND A STRONG IDENTITY FOR THE CHURCH ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CAMPUS.

EXCUSE ME. IS THIS VIEW FROM DAVIS? NO, SIR. THIS VIEW IS FROM THE PARKING LOT.

SO ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE MY HAND MOVE HERE? IF YOU STAND AT THIS PARKING LOT AND LOOK NORTH.

THIS SLIGHTLY DARKER ORANGE LINE IS THE ARCADE AND THE PROPOSED TOWER YOU SEE ON THE LEFT.

AND SO PEARSON LANE IS OVER TO THE LEFT OFF THE SCREEN.

SO IF YOU WERE IN THE PARKING LOT LOOKING TO THE NORTH, TO THE EXISTING SANCTUARY, THIS ARCADE IS, IS PROPOSED TO BE A NEW ARCADE AND THE NEW BELL TOWER.

CERTAINLY. AND THEN THIS IS A VIEW FROM PEARSON LOOKING EAST TO A PROPOSED REVISED FAÇADE, AN ENTRANCE TO THE CHURCH AND AGAIN, THE PROPOSED BELL TOWER.

I SHOULD MENTION BOTH THE SANCTUARY ROOF.

WHILE WE'LL MODIFY THAT ROOF TO TO ALLOW FOR SOME INTERNAL GROWTH WITHIN WITHIN THE SANCTUARY, IT DOES NOT CHANGE IN HEIGHT.

IT IS CURRENTLY IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 24 FEET.

25 FEET.

IT REMAINS THAT THAT'S WELL BELOW WHAT THE CITY ALLOWS FOR THE ROOF HEIGHTS.

LIKEWISE, THE PROPOSED BELL TOWER AT SOMEWHERE UNDER 50 FEET IS WELL BELOW WHAT THE CITY ALLOWS FOR A BELL TOWER.

EXCUSE ME.

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THAT'LL BE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

THIS IS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.

AND THEN SHARING SOME ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS AND JUST VIEWS OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

AGAIN, THESE ARE PRELIMINARY CONCEPTS, BUT IN GENERAL, THE THE CHURCH IS LOOKING FOR MINOR, RELATIVELY MINOR CHANGES TO THE TO THE CAMPUS, A CONSIDERABLE STEP BACK FROM WHERE THEY ARE NOW.

AND SO TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD PROPOSE TO REVISE OUR CONCEPT PLAN TO SOMETHING MORE LIKE YOU'RE SEEING HERE, AND THEN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NEW ZONING IN RECOGNITION OF THE REDUCED NUMBER OF ELEMENTS AND BUILDINGS ON THE SITE.

ANOTHER VIEW, AERIAL VIEW, AGAIN, PROBABLY IS IF YOU WERE TO BE ABOVE PEARSON LOOKING BACK TOWARD THE ENTRANCE.

LIKEWISE. AND THEN A VIEW IS YOU'RE COMING BASICALLY INTO THE PARKING.

AND THEN AGAIN, ANOTHER VIEW PERSPECTIVE FROM THE PARKING LOT.

VERY QUICKLY, ALTHOUGH THIS MAY BE A LITTLE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS CONVERSATION, JUST TO GIVE SOME INDICATION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT INTERNALLY WITHIN THE FACILITY, THE LIGHT PINK OF THE TOWER AND ARCADE AND CONCOURSE REPRESENTS WHAT WE THINK WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE OF THE ADDITIONS TO THE EXISTING FACILITIES.

THERE'S WORK THAT WOULD BE DONE WITHIN THE NAVE AND LENGTHENING THE NAVE BASICALLY WITHIN THE PLAN ITSELF.

WITHOUT. EXPANDING EXCEPT FOR A SMALL BIT TO THE TO THE WEST, BUT INCREASING THE INTERNAL CAPACITY OF THE SANCTUARY FROM ABOUT 170 TO AROUND 250.

AND THEN WHAT'S JUST DASHED OR REPRESENTED IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER WOULD BE POTENTIAL FUTURE ADDITION AT SOME OTHER TIME. SO SMALL AMOUNT OF EXTERIOR ADDITIONS OF FAIR AMOUNT OF INTERIOR RENOVATION.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IF THERE ARE ANY AUDIENCE MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION THIS EVENING, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND USE THE MICROPHONE IN THE AISLES TO ASK YOUR QUESTION.

SEEING NO ONE.

I ALSO DID NOT RECEIVE ANY ONLINE QUESTION FORMS, SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS ITEM FOR THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THANK THE CITY FOR THEIR HELP IN HELPING US PREPARE FOR THIS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU VERY MUCH.

[3. SPIN2022-22 - An applicant is proposing to develop a luxury tree nursery and retail center on approximately 11 acres located at 755 Randol Mill Road within SPIN Neighborhood #5.]

WE HAVE MR. CHRISTOPHER KELLY HERE TO PRESENT SPIN 2022-22.

AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP A LUXURY TREE NURSERY AND RETAIL CENTER ON APPROXIMATELY 11 ACRES LOCATED AT 755 RANDALL MILL ROAD. AND AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE AND WE'LL DO THE Q&A PORTION FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION. PERFECT.

THANKS FOR THE INTRODUCTION, MADELINE, AND THANK THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY.

WE'LL KEEP IT FAIRLY TOPICAL THIS EVENING.

WE'RE EARLY IN THE PROCESS.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED A SITE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE THAT APPEARS TO CHECK THE BOXES AS FAR AS WHAT MOON VALLEY TYPICALLY LIKES TO HAVE FOR THEIR SITES.

IN ADDITION, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH A PROPERTY OWNER, THE PROPERTY OWNER IN PARTICULAR.

SHE'S HERE WITH US TONIGHT, MS. CLARK, WHO IS ALSO IN SUPPORT OF BRINGING THIS USE TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND ADDITION, BRINGING THIS TO HER, HER PROPERTY CURRENTLY.

WE'LL MOVE INTO THE SLIDES HERE.

SO A LITTLE RUNDOWN ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO TONIGHT.

WE'LL JUST START HERE WITH THE INTRODUCTION.

SO MOON VALLEY NURSERY IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPANY.

THEY ARE A NATIONALLY OPERATED PRIVATE EQUITY BACKED LARGE NURSERY OPERATOR THAT SPECIALIZES IN BIG TREES.

THEY ARE VERY UNIQUE.

WE DON'T HAVE AN OPERATOR HERE IN SOUTHLAKE CURRENTLY THAT SPECIALIZES IN BIG TREES.

THERE ARE SEVERAL GARDEN CENTERS THAT SELL SMALLER PLANTS AND SHRUBS.

MOON VALLEY NURSERIES IS A BRAND NEW CONCEPT TO THIS AREA AND SOMETHING THE LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE.

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THEY HAVE VERY PLEASING ESTHETICS TO THEIR SITES, VERY MINIMALLY IMPACTFUL AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT GOES.

THEY DON'T ERECT A LARGE STRUCTURE.

THEY FOCUS ON TREES AND THE GREEN THAT THAT BRINGS TO A CITY, THAT KIND OF ESTHETIC.

THEY ARE INTENDING TO LEASE OR PURCHASE THIS SITE.

AND WE WANTED TO COME HERE TODAY TO OPEN UP OUR PROCESS TO THE COMMUNITY, GET SOME FEEDBACK AND AND KIND OF FACTOR THAT IN TO OUR PROCESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE I BELIEVE, LEFT HAND SIDE, DEPENDING ON YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, THAT'S A PROPERTY OR A PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION.

IT'S A RURAL TYPE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE HERE AN AERIAL AS WELL, HIGHLIGHTING THE SPECIFIC PROPERTY ALONG RANDALL MILL.

THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY.

YOU CAN SEE BACK BEHIND HERE THERE ARE SOME INDUSTRIAL TYPE RETAIL USE BACK BEHIND THE PROPERTY, BUT JUST A PIECE OF LAND NOW CURRENTLY.

SO THAT ZONING ON THE SITE CURRENTLY IS AGRICULTURAL.

SO THERE'S JUST A BASIC LEVEL OF ZONING ON THE ON THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY UTILIZED FOR OPEN STORAGE, LIVESTOCK PEN, FARM TYPE USE.

AS I MENTIONED, OWNERSHIP IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS OF MOON VALLEY ENTERING THE PROPERTY AND OPENING ONE OF THEIR LOCATIONS.

AND JUST TO THE EAST, AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS A INDUSTRIAL RETAIL TYPE PARK.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF OUR ZONING, WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE AND ITS COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO PROPOSE AN S-P-1, A DETAILED SITE PLAN FOR THIS SITE OR A C-3 ZONING, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP. AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THIS FRONT.

I BELIEVE AN S- P-1 MAY BE MORE BENEFICIAL OR MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE AS IT WILL SPECIFICALLY OUTLINE WHAT IS ON THIS SITE, WHAT IS ALLOWED TO BE DONE ON THIS SITE, AND THEN PROTECTS THE FUTURE USE OF THIS PROPERTY OF THIS SITE.

EXCUSE ME.

OH, SIR, I'M SORRY.

CAN WE SAVE THE QUESTIONS FOR THE END OF THE PRESENTATION PORTION, PLEASE? IF WE COULD SAVE THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR THE END OF THE PRESENTATION PORTION, I'LL OPEN UP A.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ON ME.

I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE INFORMATION, SHARE HANDOUTS SURE. YEAH . YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. I'LL DEFER TO MADELEINE AS LONG AS THAT'S OKAY.

I'LL. I'LL MARK THIS PAGE.

YES, SIR. SURE, THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

YES, SIR. SO A COUPLE OF JUST SAMPLE SITE RENDERINGS.

AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT SITE SPECIFIC.

THESE ARE SOME SAMPLE RENDERINGS OF SITES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER.

AND ANOTHER SITE THEY'RE LOOKING IN THIS GENERAL METROPLEX AREA.

THIS ONE IS A LITTLE MORE TUNED IN TO THE ACTUAL SITE.

AGAIN, THESE ARE HIGH LEVEL.

THIS IS JUST OVERLAID ON TOP OF THE CURRENT SITE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EMPHASIS AND THE FOCUS OF THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE ON THEIR TREES, THEIR INVENTORY.

SO IN SUMMARY, WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE TO THE SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS REGION.

MOON VALLEY WOULD LIKE TO OPEN A LOCATION HERE.

THEY AIM TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS TO CREATE A SUITABLE ESTHETIC FOR THIS SITE TAILORED SPECIFICALLY TO SOUTHLAKE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING INCREDIBLE TREES, EXOTIC PLANTS, THINGS THAT WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE IN THIS REGION.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DISPLAYING THEM IN A IN A MANNER WE WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.

AND A NEW CONCEPT LUXURY TYPE NURSERY TO THE AREA.

AND THEY WILL SUPPLY NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS BUT MUNICIPALITIES, BUSINESSES WITH THE TREES, SHRUBS THAT THEY NEED TO BEAUTIFY THEIR THEIR

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WE WANTED TO THANK THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.

I'LL DEFER BACK TO MADELINE SO WE CAN BEGIN THE QUESTION AND ANSWER PORTION.

THERE, THE S-P-1 OR C-3 ZONING.

COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT? WHAT ARE THOSE? WHAT IS S-P-1? WHAT IS C-3 AND WHAT IS W/SUP.

SURE. AND I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR INTO THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS, BUT THE S-P-1 IS A SITE PLAN DESIGNATION, IT BASICALLY OUTLINES THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ON A PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY AND THEN TIES THEM INTO A DETAILED SITE PLAN WHERE MOON VALLEY NURSES EXCUSE ME, MOON VALLEY NURSERIES WOULD WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE CITY TO FORMULATE A SITE PLAN AND THEN ADHERE EXACTLY TO THAT SITE PLAN IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY ALLOWED, ETC..

AND I'M SORRY THE W/SUP IS AGAIN? SORRY. AND THEN TO ADDRESS THE C-3 ZONING, THE C-3 ZONING IS A ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT ALREADY EXISTS WITHIN SOUTHLAKE'S CODE AND IT'S IT'S THE FORM OF ZONING THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THIS TYPE OF RETAIL TREE NURSERY.

WITH SUP THAT THAT LANGUAGE THERE THAT IS JUST A CLASS, WE WOULD NEED AN ADDITIONAL PERMIT TO OPERATE WITHIN THIS ZONING FROM OUR INTERPRETATION OF SOUTHLAKE'S CODE.

GOT THAT.

ALL RIGHT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YES. AND THEN THE LAST BULLET, THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATES LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT REFER TO? HOW DOES THAT WORK? SURE. THAT'S MORE OF A GENERALIZED KIND OF ZONING QUESTION.

SO A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS YOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TYPICAL.

TYPICALLY.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN WHEN CITIES ARE BEING FORMED, THEY HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK OUTSIDE OF WHAT EXISTS AND DESIGNATE WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THERE EVENTUALLY. RIGHT.

SO THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS A FUTURE USE OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IN MY EXPERIENCE, PLANS WHEN THEY'RE MADE CAN BE GENERAL AND AS USES FALL INTO PLACE, DIFFERENT USES YOU MAY NOT HAVE ENVISIONED BEFORE BECOME NECESSARY OR POSSIBLE.

AND THIS IS SIMPLY OUTLINING THE CURRENT AREA THAT WE'RE IN HAS NOT BEEN ZONED IN THE FUTURE USE PLAN FOR OUR USE, BUT WE BELIEVE IT COULD BE A VERY COMPATIBLE AND BENEFICIAL USE IN THIS LOCATION.

OKAY. SO THEN I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE HERE, BUT WOULDN'T ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY THIS IS, COULDN'T IT ALSO BE REFERRED TO AS BE DESIGNATED FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE FUTURE? I MEAN, IF IT WAS A GAS STATION, WHATEVER IT WAS, IT COULD BE DESIGNATED IN THAT MANNER, COULDN'T IT.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

SO THE FUTURE, THE FUTURE LAND USE SORT OF PRE EXISTS, THE ACTUAL ZONING USES.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUTSIDE OF MY ZONE HERE.

BUT TYPICALLY THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATES LAND THAT HASN'T BEEN ZONED YET FOR A WHAT THE CITY WOULD ENVISION AT THE TIME, WHAT USE THEY THINK SHOULD BE THERE.

I SEE. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND WHAT WE'RE VERY UNDERSTANDING OF IS WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE ZONING ON A PROPERTY THAT COULD IMPACT IT 20, 30, 40, 50 YEARS DOWN THE LINE.

WE WANT THIS PROPERTY TO BE WITH MOON VALLEY NURSERIES.

WE ENVISION MOON VALLEY NURSERIES HERE FOR DECADES TO COME.

BUT WITH THIS PROCESS WE'RE PROPOSING IT WOULD LIMIT THE SCOPE AND TYPICALLY PROVIDE A MORE NARROW, A NARROW VARIANCE FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL ZONING USE WAS ENVISIONED.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO THIS WOULD PREVENT YOUR GAS STATION FROM ENTERING, IF SAY, MOON VALLEY WERE TO CEASE OPERATIONS THERE.

OKAY. SO IT'S CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE.

YES. GOT THAT? YES, SIR. OK THE LAST QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE WOULD BE SO SPIN MEETING TONIGHT. WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS AFTER THIS? AFTER FOLLOWING THIS SPIN MEETING?

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THOSE ARE AD HOC MEETINGS, SO THEY DON'T HAPPEN AS FREQUENTLY AS P&Z AND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS DO, BUT THAT WOULD BE THEIR NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS TO GET FEEDBACK FROM ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT MEETING, IF THEY CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR CASE, THEY'LL GO TO A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND THAT WILL RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR TWO FINAL READINGS.

OKAY. SO WILL THOSE FUTURE MEETINGS, WILL THOSE FUTURE MEETINGS BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL? YES, SIR. ALL OF THEM ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THEY'RE ALL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

AND WILL THEY BE NOT ADVERTISED? BUT WILL THEY BE PROMOTED, IF YOU WILL, IN THE SAME MANNER THAT THIS ONE WAS? YES, SIR. YES.

CORRIDOR. WE TYPICALLY DO NOT NOTIFY, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE DETAILS.

IF THE APPLICANT DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT MEETING, I'LL SHARE THE DETAILS WITH YOU OF WHEN THAT NEXT MEETING IS.

OKAY. FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IF YOU LIVE WITHIN A 300 FOOT BOUNDARY OF THIS SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU'LL BE NOTIFIED THROUGH THE MAIL OF WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL ATTEND A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION OR COMMENT TO THE APPLICANT THIS EVENING? WELL, I DO NOT SEE ANY MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.

I'LL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER WHILE I CHECK MY ONLINE COMMENT FORMS. COOL. I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY ONLINE COMMENT FORMS EITHER.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS ITEM FOR THIS MEETING.

SO THANK YOU, CHRIS, FOR BEING HERE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR SPIN MEETING THIS EVENING.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION IN SPIN.

AND REMEMBER, THAT SPIN REPRESENTS THE FIRST STEPS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

A SPIN MEETING REPORT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE AFTER THE MEETING TAKES PLACE TYPICALLY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR AT THE END OF THIS WEEK.

AND IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN RECEIVING THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND IT TO THEIR EMAIL.

THESE REPORTS ARE REGENERATED FROM THE FORUM.

THEY'RE NOT VERBATIM, THEY'RE JUST GENERAL OBSERVATIONS OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED THIS EVENING.

AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN THIS CASE TO CONTINUE FOLLOWING IT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ALL OF THESE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED AND WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE APPROXIMATELY 24 HOURS AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.