Dec 13, 2022 SPIN Town Hall Forum

[1. Call to Order: Video Introduction of SPIN Program by Southlake Mayor John Huffman]

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WE DEVELOPED AN ONLINE SPIN FORM FOR RESIDENTS TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING IF THEY WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT.

I WILL READ THROUGH SOME OF THOSE SUBMISSIONS IF I RECEIVED THEM THROUGH MY EMAIL.

BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR APPLICANT PRESENTATIONS, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE FIFTH ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN 2022 26, HAS WITHDRAWN FROM THE SPIN MEETING THIS EVENING AND THEY WILL ATTEND AT A LATER DATE.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START OUR APPLICANT PRESENTATIONS.

JENNY CROSBY IS HERE TO PRESENT THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN 2022-23.

[2. SPIN2022-23 - The City of Southlake is proposing updates to the Consolidated Future Land Use Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Plan.]

GOOD EVENING. I'M MADELINE INTRODUCED ME.

I'M JENNY CROSBY. I'M ONE OF THE PRINCIPAL PLANNERS HERE WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN UPDATE.

SO I JUST WANT TO STEP BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT AND EXPLAIN WHAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS.

THE LAND USE PLAN IS JUST ONE COMPONENT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A REFLECTION OF OUR VALUES, AND IT EXPRESSES OUR SHARED VISION.

IT'S A GUIDE TO HELP IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

IT SERVES AS THE FOUNDATION FOR OUR POLICIES, OUR STRATEGIES AND OUR ACTIONS.

AND IT ILLUSTRATES THE FUTURE THROUGH PLANS, MAPS, ILLUSTRATIONS, PICTURES AND TEXT.

AND OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE HAD SOME CHANGES TO THE LOGO.

WE'VE HAD SOUTH LAKE 2025, SOUTH LAKE 2030, MOST RECENTLY SOUTH LAKE 2035.

AND AS WE GO FORWARD, WE'RE MOVING JUST TOWARD CALLING IT THE SOUTH LAKE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE SEVERAL PLAN ELEMENTS THAT GO ALONG WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THERE'S THE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN.

WE HAVE WATER WASTEWATER AND STORMWATER DRAINAGE, MASTER PLAN, PARKS, RECREATION, OPEN SPACE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM, HEALTH AND WELLNESS, PUBLIC ARTS SUSTAINABILITY, URBAN DESIGN, WATER CONSERVATION AND WAYFINDING SIGNS SYSTEM AND THE YOUTH MASTER PLAN.

SO CELTIC HAS A PRETTY ROBUST, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND ALL OF THESE PLAN ELEMENTS ARE ON DIFFERENT REVIEW CYCLES, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD JUST CALLING IT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VERSUS 2035.

AND WHO USES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

CITY COUNCIL USES IT FOR POLICY DETERMINATION, FOR COMMUNICATING TO THE PUBLIC, EVALUATING RECOMMENDATIONS, PRIORITIZING INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS USE IT AS A ROADMAP TO FOLLOW FOR MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL.

CITY STAFF USES IT FOR ADVISING ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS FOR IMPLEMENTING PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS. IMPLEMENTING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.

FOSTERING COORDINATION BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS.

AND I'LL JUST ALSO NOTE THAT CITIZENS AND DEVELOPERS USE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S VISION.

SO GETTING MORE INTO DETAIL ON THE LAND USE PLAN WHERE THIS IS JUST OUR REGULAR UPDATE CYCLE.

WE DID A LARGER UPDATE WITH THE 2035 PLAN, SO THIS IS MORE OF A MINOR UPDATE.

BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW IS BUILDOUT IS APPROACHING.

WE'RE ABOUT 91% DEVELOPED WITH 9% UNDEVELOPED AND OF OUR UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES, NEARLY HALF ARE PLATTED.

SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY COULD THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AND THEN THIS MAP SHOWS OUR UNDEVELOPED PARCELS WITH UNDERLYING LAND USE.

AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE OUR UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ALONG 114, BUT THE BREAKDOWN BY LAND USE, THE BIG ONES ARE MIXED USE.

WE HAVE ABOUT 350 ACRES, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, 329 AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AT 201.

OUR EXISTING APPROVED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN MAP FOR OUR UNDERLYING LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

WHENEVER SOMEBODY TALKS ABOUT A LAND USE DESIGNATION, THIS IS TYPICALLY WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE UNDERLYING LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE FOR THE SOUTH LAKE 2035 PLAN.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR PROPOSED SOUTH LAKE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND WE'RE NOT MAKING HUGE CHANGES.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MAPS LOOK PRETTY SIMILAR.

BREAKING IT DOWN BETWEEN THE 2018 PLAN AND THE 2023 PLAN, THERE IS NO CHANGES TO PUBLIC PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL RETAIL, COMMERCIAL OR REGIONAL RETAIL OR TOWN CENTER OR INDUSTRIAL.

WE'RE LOSING ONE ACRE IN PUBLIC, SEMI PUBLIC 36 ACRES AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, ADDING 32 ACRES AND OFFICE COMMERCIAL AND ADDING FIVE

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AND ALL OF THESE, I MEAN, THEY REALLY DON'T A HUGE IMPACT OVERALL.

THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS INCREASING THE OFFICE COMMERCIAL, WHICH COMES OUT TO ABOUT 11% INCREASE.

IN SOUTH LAKE. WE HAVE UNDERLYING LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND WE ALSO HAVE OPTIONAL LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

IT'S ALSO CALLED OVERLAY AND THE OVERLAY LAND USE DESIGNATIONS JUST PROVIDE MORE, MORE OPTIONS TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY.

WE ALSO HAVE SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ON SELECTED PROPERTIES, AND THAT'S TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE TO DEVELOPERS OR ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING THOSE PROPERTIES. JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHERE CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE PROPERTIES DEVELOPED.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO GO VERY, VERY BRIEFLY OVER SOME OF THE CHANGES WE HAVE.

WE HAVE OUR OUR OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BROKEN DOWN THERE.

LIKE THE DESIGNATIONS.

START WITH A LETTER OR A NUMBER.

SO DN STANDS FOR NORTH 114 STANDS FOR THE STATE HIGHWAY 114 FM IS FM 1709 OR FM 1938 W IS FOR WEST C IS FOR SOUTHEAST.

AND THAT RELATES TO THIS THIS SECTOR PLAN AREA MAP.

SINCE WE WEREN'T DOING HUGE CHANGES THIS YEAR, WE WE ARE NOT HAVING INDIVIDUAL SECTOR PLAN MAPS PRODUCED.

WE'RE NOT DOING LIKE SEPARATE PLAN DOCUMENTS.

IN THE PAST UNDER 2035 WE HAD A 114 CORRIDOR PLAN, WE HAD AN FM CORRIDOR PLAN, AND THEN WE HAD THE REMAINING SECTOR PLAN AREAS IN A SEPARATE PLAN DOCUMENT AND THEN THOSE ALL ROLLED UP INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THIS YEAR, THEY'RE JUST ALL BEING PUT INTO ONE DOCUMENT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST WE'RE NOT MAKING BIG, HUGE CHANGES.

SO TO GO OVER SOME OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES, WE HAVE THIS NLU TOO, WHICH IS CHANGING FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO OFFICE COMMERCIAL, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SAW A LOT OF THE CHANGE THAT INCREASE IN OFFICE COMMERCIAL AND THE REDUCTION OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROPERTY THAT'S CHANGING IN TERMS OF ACREAGE 114 L ONE AND L1A WHAT WE DID HERE IS WE JUST EXPANDED THE BOUNDARY AND AND ADDED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS LITTLE, LITTLE PARCEL IN HERE THAT WE'RE CALLING L1A1 14 L U TEN WE JUST ADDED A SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU.

THREE CHANGE FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE FMLN U FOR CHANGE FROM PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC TO MIXED USE.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT CHANGE IS THERE WAS A CHURCH THERE AND THAT CHURCH IS NO LONGER THERE.

SO IT'S CHANGING TO MIXED USE TO MATCH THE THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE.

FMLN U 11.

THESE ARE THREE PROPERTIES ALONG SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD.

WE EXPANDED THE BOUNDARY AND THESE WERE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT TO OFFICE COMMERCIAL JUST HISTORICALLY MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE TO ALLOW LIMITED OFFICE USES.

BUT THAT THAT CHANGED.

THERE WAS A CHANGE MADE AND THE LAND USE PLAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT ELIMINATED THAT.

AND WITH THESE PROPERTIES BEING RIGHT ALONG SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD, ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES ALREADY HAS A SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW OFFICE USES.

SO THIS IS JUST REALLY KIND OF TYING THOSE PROPERTIES TOGETHER TO CHANGE IT TO OFFICE COMMERCIAL.

ACLU THREE.

WE'RE JUST ADDING A SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION, AND THAT'S REGARDING THE VILLAGE CENTER DRIVE EXPANSION JUST TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY ON THAT SITE.

AND ONE 1411 WE ADDED A SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION AND THAT THAT PARTICULAR ONE HERE, WE ADDED THE RESTAURANT AND A SPECIALTY RETAIL OVERLAY, AND THAT WAS THE BIG CHANGE ON THAT ONE.

AND THIS IS ONE 1487.

WE ADDED MIXED MEDICAL AND OFFICE OVERLAY.

114 SIX WE CHANGED FROM MIXED MEDICAL AND OFFICE OVERLAY TO CAMPUS OFFICE OVERLAY.

114 TWO CHANGE FOR MIXED MEDICAL AND OFFICE OVERLAY TO MULTITENANT OFFICE OVERLAY.

AND 114 TWO WE JUST REMOVED THE RESTAURANT AND SPECIALTY RETAIL OVERLAY.

SO I KNOW THAT WAS A REALLY BRIEF, QUICK OVERVIEW.

I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ANY SPECIFIC ONES.

IF ANYBODY HAS AN INTEREST IN GOING OVER ANY OF THOSE IN MORE DETAIL.

BUT THIS IS OUR OUR SCHEDULE, SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER.

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THEY REVIEWED EACH OF THE SECTOR AREAS AND WENT THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

AND THEY CAME FORWARD.

THEY HELPED US PREPARE THIS PLAN AS WE HAVE IT NOW.

TODAY WE'RE HAVING OUR OPEN HOUSE AND OUR SPIN MEETING.

JANUARY 5TH. WE ARE SCHEDULED TO GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND HAVE THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARING AND FOR THEM TO TAKE ACTION ON THE PLAN.

AND ASSUMING THAT THAT MOVES FORWARD AT THAT POINT WILL HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL FIRST READING ON JANUARY 17TH AND THEN ON FEBRUARY 7TH, WE'LL HAVE OUR CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL ACTION AND WE'LL HAVE AN APPROVED PLAN.

WE DO HAVE A COMMENT FORM AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.

WE HAVE THE FULL PLAN AND MAPS AND EVERYTHING ON OUR WEBSITE.

THE EASIEST WAY TO GET THERE IS CITY OF SOUTH LAKE DOT COM AND DO A KEYWORD SEARCH FOR LAND USE.

WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

YOU CAN ALSO REACH ME DIRECTLY DIRECTLY AT 8177488195 OR JAY CROSBIE AT CITY OF SOUTH LAKE DOT COM.

BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT I HAVE FOR YOU FOR TONIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, JENNY.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION OR COMMENT, PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE IN THE AISLE.

SEEING NO ONE APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS ITEM.

I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY ONLINE QUESTION FORMS EITHER, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR COMING.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE TO OUR SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

[3. SPIN2022-24 - An applicant is proposing an approximately 156,975 sq. ft. self-storage expansion on 2.87 acres located at 1928 Brumlow Ave. within SPIN Neighborhood #9.]

AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN APPROXIMATELY 156,975 SQUARE FOOT SELF STORAGE EXPANSION ON 2.87 ACRES LOCATED AT 1928 BRUMLOW AVENUE.

IF YOU COULD USE A PODIUM UP AT THE FRONT.

WELL, THIS IS NOT THE MOST RAZZLE DAZZLE PRESENTATION HERE BECAUSE IT'S A SELF STORAGE SITE.

BUT JUST A LITTLE BRIEF BACKGROUND HERE.

THIS THIS IS GOING TO BE THE PROPOSED THIRD PHASE OF A SELF STORAGE FACILITY AT EXTRA SPACE STORAGE ON BRUMLOW.

AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE WE'VE SUBMITTED A SET OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND WE'VE RECEIVED SOME CITY FEEDBACK ON IT.

AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS LISTED WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR AN ORDINANCE THAT FOR A HEIGHT RESTRICTION ORDINANCE.

AND WHAT? YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE ORDINANCES, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE AND WHAT IT SAYS HERE, SINCE WE HAVE THIS WHOLE SCREEN UP HERE, IS THAT.

THIS IS WHEN IT GETS TO THE ENGINEERING HERE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE AT A 4 TO 1 SLOPE FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING FROM THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.

AND WHERE DO WE COME UP AT? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, I KNOW THIS WELL, HOW DO I ZOOM IN? I GUESS I CAN'T. WELL, WHAT WE CAN SEE HERE, IF I CAN SEE THAT, IS THAT I.

WE'RE TRYING TO REQUEST A VARIANCE.

AND I THINK I BELIEVE THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO SEE WHAT THE FEEDBACK WOULD BE ON THAT VARIANCE REQUEST FROM THE FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

AND IN MY OPINION, I WASN'T THERE WHEN SOUTH LAKE WROTE IT.

BUT MY MY OPINION, WHEN I'VE SEEN SOME OF THESE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, THE IDEA IS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A VERY TALL BUILDING NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THEY CAN SEE IN AND THERE'S JUST A LIMIT. YOU DON'T WANT A SKYSCRAPER NEXT TO A HOUSE, YOU KNOW.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY AN A TENT THAT'S BEEN AROUND A LOT OF CITIES.

THIS ONE HAS A 4 TO 1 SLOPE AT THE.

AT THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY LINE.

SO IF WE DRAW A LINE UP HERE, YOU COULD SEE THIS.

I'M RISING UP HERE AT THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY LINE.

IT LIMITS OUR BUILDING TO KIND OF JUST NOT SUSTAINABLE FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A MULTI STOREY SELF STOREY FACILITY.

BUT IF WE LOOK AT KIND OF MAYBE MORE OF THE INTENTION OF WHAT WE BELIEVE INTERPRET THE INTENTION MAY BE, WE COME UP HERE A LITTLE BIT MORE UP TOWARDS WHERE THE HOUSES ARE AND IT'S NOT EVEN AT THE BUILDING PAD LOCATION, IT'S EVEN A FEW FEET DOWN FROM THERE.

AND YOU COULD SEE THAT WE'RE WELL WITH UNDER WILL WHERE WE ARE WELL UNDER THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, IF YOU IF WE MAKE IT MORE REASONABLE, CLOSER TO THE HOUSE BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE A CREEK RIGHT HERE.

SO WE'RE TAKING WE'RE TAKING THE RESIDENTIAL HEIGHT AT THE AT THE CREEK CENTERLINE, WHICH IS NOT REALLY THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES OUT THERE.

THAT'S ALL IN THE FLOODPLAIN.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OUR QUESTION WOULD BE.

WOULD WOULD THIS CITY SUPPORT HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON MODIFICATION OR VARIANCE REQUEST TO JUST SCOOT IT BACK TO WHERE THE HOUSE IS?

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WE'RE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.

IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, YOU CAN USE A MICROPHONE IN THE AISLE.

YEAH. SO YOU'RE THE DEVELOPER? THE CIVIL ENGINEER.

THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON BEHALF OF WHO? THE DEVELOPER AND OWNER.

THE OWNER/DEVELOPER.

THE OWNER. RIGHT. SO WE GOT THE NOTICE A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO.

SO MY NEIGHBOR AND I, MY WIFE SENT ME.

RIGHT. SO.

BUT SO I HAVE QUESTIONS.

WHAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND NOW THAT YOU EXPLAIN, YOU WANT THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION FROM THE WATER LINE, NOT FROM THE HOUSE LINE.

WELL, ACCORDING TO THE CODE, IT'S AT THE PROPERTY LINE IS WHERE THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION STARTS AND THE PROPERTY LINES BETWEEN THE TWO.

SO THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL.

RIGHT. IT JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE THAT'S ALMOST A CENTERLINE OF THE CREEK, YOU KNOW.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING THAT'S A REALLY LOW TAKE ON IT.

YEAH, THAT'S AN INTERESTING TAKE BECAUSE CLEARLY, LIKE MY HOUSE IS FURTHER DOWN, HE'S A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE THAT STORAGE.

I'M A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN AND THERE IS PROBABLY 10 TO 15 FEET OF RISE RIGHT ABOVE THE FLOOD ZONE, 100 YEAR FLOOD ZONE THAT OUR HOUSES SIT UP ON. RIGHT? NATURALLY.

OTHERWISE, WHO WOULD ACTUALLY BE UNDER WATER? YEAH. OTHERWISE WHO WOULD EVER BUILD A HOUSE THERE.

RIGHT. RIGHT. SO I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT AGREE WITH THE CITY ALLOWING THE MEASUREMENT TO BE FROM THE WATER LINE AND THE CREEK.

YOU KNOW, THAT SEEMS LIKE A RIDICULOUS REQUEST TO BE ON.

NO OFFENSE TO YOU. NO, NO, THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

I'M ARGUING, ACTUALLY. RIGHT.

YEAH. AND SO THAT'S FOR THE RECORD.

BUT I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS.

SO WHY THREE STORIES? IT'S FIVE. HOW MANY SQUARE FEET? 300. AND THE EXPANSION I HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS 156,000.

156,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF THREE, RIGHT? SO FROM THE STREET FROM BRUMLOW, YOU WOULD SEE ABOUT TWO FLOORS BECAUSE IT'S A STEP DOWN.

IT'S SUCH A BIG ELEVATION CHANGE IT WOULD BE A STEP DOWN.

SO REALLY, YOU'RE JUST HOW MUCH IS THE CURRENT, THE SECOND PHASE, HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE DOES THAT ONE HAVE? 41,000. OKAY.

SO YOU'RE GOING YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING PREVIOUSLY BUILT SOMETHING 41,000, AND NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING, WHAT, 52,000 OR 156,000 TOTAL.

SO THREE TIMES THE SIZE.

FOUR TIMES 3 TO 4 TIMES THE SIZE.

RIGHT. THAT ALSO SEEMS A LITTLE BIT RIDICULOUS AS WELL TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT MONSTROUS ON THE BACK OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

RIGHT. WHY NOT MAKE IT TWO STORY AND KEEP IT CONSISTENT TO WHAT YOU'VE DONE BEFORE? AND BY THE WAY, YOUR EXPLANATION OF A SKYSCRAPER TO THAT THAT WORKS IN NEW YORK CITY, THAT DOESN'T WORK IN SOUTH LAKE.

OH, I KNOW. I EXAGGERATE.

YEAH, THAT WAS JUST MY TAKE.

I'M JUST BEING OPEN AND HONEST.

WELL, YOU DON'T WANT EVEN A FOUR FLOOR UNIT RIGHT NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION, AT A MINIMUM, WOULD BE IT ONLY BE A TWO STORY SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY BY THE CITY.

THE TWO STORY, NOT A THREE STORY, THREE STORY.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING OUT THEIR WINDOW AND SEEING THIS, YOU KNOW, DRINKING A CUP OF COFFEE OUTSIDE IN THE MORNING AND SEEING A THREE STORY BUILDING IN THEIR BACKYARD BASICALLY. RIGHT. SO.

I THINK THE CITY SHOULD CONSIDER OR YOU SHOULD CONSIDER PRESENTING A TWO STORY BUILDING VERSUS A THREE STORY.

WHY DIDN'T YOU PRESENT A FIVE STORY? BECAUSE THE SAME ANALOGY OF HIGH SKYSCRAPER.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WELL, THREE STORY IS ABOUT THE MAX THAT THEY COULD IT COULD REASONABLY SUSTAIN THERE FOR, FOR SELF STORAGE.

AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. ANOTHER THING IS THERE'S HARDLY ANY SELF STORAGE SO IT'S COMPLETELY FULL NOW.

I KNOW. AND THERE'S, THERE'S A NEED FOR IT OR ELSE.

DID YOU FIND ANOTHER LOCATION TO BUILD THIS THING POTENTIALLY.

I MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THERE.

THERE'S PLENTY OF LOCATIONS IN TEXAS TO BUILD THIS THING.

AGREE. I MEAN, AS FAR AS DEMAND GOES, THERE'S A LOT THERE, REALLY HIGH DEMAND FOR THAT IN YOUR AREA.

SO I WOULD OPPOSE THE THE PROPOSAL TO MEASURE IT FROM THE WATER LINE, WHICH IS FLOOD ZONE.

SO WHY WOULD YOU MEASURE HEIGHT FROM A FLOOD ZONE OF FLOOD ZONE, THE BEGINNING OF THE FLOOD ZONE, BECAUSE THE FLOOD ZONE PROBABLY IS IS AN AREA ABOVE THAT STARTING LINE.

RIGHT. SO I WOULD BE VERY, VERY MUCH IN A IN OPPOSITION, NO OFFENSE, OF COURSE, TO THE CITY, ALLOWING THE MEASUREMENT TO BE FROM THAT HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD STARTING POINT THAT WOULD BE THAT'S PROBABLY FIRST AND FOREMOST THE THING I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE.

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YOU SAID THERE'S A CREEK THERE AND IT'S TRUE.

THERE'S EROSION THAT'S HAPPENING ALREADY.

AND WILL THIS CREATE A 150,000? I KEEP FORGETTING THE NUMBER, 150,000 SQUARE FEET.

HOW MUCH EROSION IS THAT GOING TO CREATE FROM THE WEIGHT AND ALL OF THAT? RIGHT. LIGHTING, LIGHTING AND NOISE IS ALSO A CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT.

ARE YOU GOING TO LET ME START ANSWERING THOSE ONE AT A TIME? TREES, AS AN EXAMPLE.

YEAH, I CAN GO I CAN GO THROUGH THIS ONE AT A TIME, IF YOU'D LIKE.

YOU MENTIONED. SO THE LIGHTING AND TREES, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY LIGHTING THAT IS NOT THAT IS LIKE MAST LIGHTING OR IT'S ALL BEING BUILDING LIGHTING, IT'S ALL DARK SKY COMPLIANT OR WHATEVER.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE CASE AS FAR AS THE FLOODING.

SO WE'VE DONE A STUDY THAT SHOWS THAT IT DOESN'T.

WE ALSO HAVE DETENTION, FIRST OF ALL, THAT WE'RE EXPANDING OUR DETENTION.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY INCREASED OUTFALL FOR THERE.

AS FAR AS EROSION, WE'RE NOT BUILDING ON THE BANK AT ALL, SO IT'S WELL AWAY FROM THE BANK.

SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN EROSION CONCERN.

I MEAN, IT'S 100 FEET AWAY FROM THE BANK, RIGHT.

SO THAT WOULD I DON'T THINK THAT'D BE A CONCERN WITH THE EROSION THERE, WITH THE NOISE.

I MEAN, IF ANYTHING THAT COULD BE BUILT, THEIR OFFICE OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, SELF STORAGE IS PROBABLY THE LEAST I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S THE LEAST OF MY NOISE.

I COULD IMAGINE IT'S THE LEAST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE GO TO VISIT IT.

I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

YEAH. YEAH. AND THEN SECURITY, I'M GUESSING YOU'LL ADD TOO.

SO WE DO HAVE TO HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL AROUND THE WHOLE THING.

THERE'S THERE'S ALREADY A WALL THERE.

NOW. A SECURITY WALL TOO.

SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE MAIN CONCERNS ARE THE VISUAL.

I MEAN, YOU GOT FAIRLY EXPENSIVE HOMES THAT ARE THERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO. SO FOR FUTURE SALE, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO COME IN AND SEE THE HOUSE.

BEAUTIFUL FROM THE FRONT, GO IN THE BACK AND SEE THIS STORAGE FACILITY, YOU KNOW, IN THERE, RIGHT IN THERE AS AN EYESORE.

THERE'S THERE'S TWO ACCORDING TO THE CITY, THERE'S TWO ITEMS THAT DICTATE THE HEIGHT.

ONE IS ZONING, AND THEY WE COMPLY WITH ZONING.

SO FIRST OFF, WE HAVE EMAILS BACK AND FORTH TO THE CITY.

WE COMPLY WITH THE ZONING, WHICH IS LIKE 35 FEET.

ZONING, MEANING YOU CAN PUT IT THERE, RIGHT? THE CITY WOULD ALLOW US THROUGH THE ZONE, THROUGH THE ZONE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN TO BE AT THE HEIGHT THAT WE'RE AT.

WE'RE PROPOSING THE THING THAT WE DON'T COMPLY WITH IS THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS THE 4 TO 1 SETBACK IN ACCORDING TO THE CITY.

LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S AT THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS A CENTERLINE OF THE CREEK, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW EVEN A TWO STOREY BARELY GET BUILT THERE BECAUSE YOU'RE MEASURING FROM SO LOW THAT IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.

SO HOW IS THE TWO STOREY BUILDING THEN BUILT THERE IF IT DIDN'T ALLOW IT BY THE.

OH, IT'S FURTHER BACK.

SO YOU'RE MOVING TOWARDS THE.

YEAH, YOU'RE CLOSE TO THE CREEK.

SO YOU MOVE TOWARDS THE HOME AND SO RECOMMENDING THAT IT MAYBE REBUILD A ONE STOREY THEN IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE ORDINANCE.

WELL A ONE STOREY WOULD BE LIKE UNDERGROUND ALMOST FOR HALF OF IT.

YOU'D BE DRIVING ON THE ROOF FOR PART OF IT.

BUT I GUESS MY TIME'S UP.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONTENDING.

CAN WE JUST MOVE THE SETBACK TO WHERE IT'S WHERE THE HOUSE IS? I'M GUESSING THIS IS ALL GOING INTO THE RECORD AND YES, IT'S BEING RECORDED RIGHT NOW.

YEAH. I MEAN, IT'D BE AN EYESORE.

FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S BOTTOM LINE.

AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THE ORDINANCE SHOULD BE MODIFIED.

I MEAN, IT'S THERE TO PROTECT HOMEOWNERS.

RIGHT. AND BUT.

NOTHING AGAINST YOU. YOU BUILT ONE PREVIOUSLY THAT THE HEAT BELT ONE PREVIOUSLY THAT YOU KNOW IT'S TWO STORY AND YOU CAN STILL NOW THAT THE LEAVES ARE FALLEN YOU CAN SEE EVEN MORE SO YOU CAN STILL SEE THE TWO STORY, LET ALONE THE THREE STORY.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE A THREE STORY, IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETELY VISIBLE.

NOW THE TWO STORIES EVEN VISIBLE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS THREE TIMES THE SIZE OF THE CURRENT ONE BEING BUILT THERE.

SO JUST OUR FEEDBACK.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOU DOING YOUR WORK.

IF I GET TO CLARIFY THIS, THE TWO STORIES ACTUALLY IN A HIGHER ELEVATION.

SO THAT TALKING ABOUT THE HEIGHTS IS ALL THAT MATTERS.

SO YOU'RE ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT.

YOU KNOW, ELEVATION WISE, YOU'RE ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT, BUT IT'S JUST SO FAR DOWN ON THE CREEK, WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD ANOTHER FLOOR BECAUSE IT JUST DROPS OFF TO NOTHING.

SO WHY NOT PUT ALMOST LIKE A BASEMENT? IT'S A SPLIT LEVEL IS WHAT IT IS.

AND THAT'S SO EFFECTIVELY IT'S A BACK TO MY EROSION CONCERN BECAUSE YOU'RE CLOSER TO THE CREEK WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING THIS ONE AS WELL.

WE'RE STILL ABOUT 100 FEET AWAY FROM THE CREEK, THOUGH.

IT STARTS FLATTENING OUT SO YOU DON'T GET THE EROSION.

SO YOU YOU'RE YOU'RE IMPLYING THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE THREE STOREY WILL BE THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE CURRENT TWO STOREY.

YEAH. IT, IT DROPS OFF DRAMATICALLY SO WE CAN ADD ANOTHER FLOOR BELOW.

BELOW THE ELEVATION OF THE TWO STORY.

YEAH. I MEAN, I'D HAVE TO SEE THE PLANS AND KNOW THAT IT WOULDN'T BE ABOVE THE CURRENT TWO STOREY ONE.

RIGHT. BUT NEVERTHELESS IT DOESN'T MEET THE ORDINANCE AND I, YOU KNOW, WE'D PROBABLY BE AGAINST IT.

BUT. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

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THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING ABOUT THIS ITEM? HEY, I DO NOT SEE ANYBODY THAT IS WANTING TO SHARE, COMMENT OR QUESTION, AND I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY ONLINE QUESTION FORMS, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR FINAL ITEM THIS EVENING.

[4. SPIN2022-25 - An applicant is proposing an office development on approximately 13.71 acres located at 1400 E. Kirkwood Blvd. within SPIN Neighborhood #1. 1. Call to Order: Video Introduction of SPIN Program by Southlake Mayor John Huffman 2. SPIN2022-23 - The City of Southlake is proposing updates to the Consolidated Future Land Use Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Plan. 3. SPIN2022-24 - An applicant is proposing an approximately 156,975 sq. ft. self-storage expansion on 2.87 acres located at 1928 Brumlow Ave. within SPIN Neighborhood #9. 4. SPIN2022-25 - An applicant is proposing an office development on approximately 13.71 acres located at 1400 E. Kirkwood Blvd. within SPIN Neighborhood #1. 5. SPIN2022-26 - An applicant is proposing an expansion at Restoration Church to include a new two-story building and additional parking located at 1280 E. Highland St. within SPIN Neighborhood #3.]

AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN OFFICE DEVELOPMENT ON APPROXIMATELY 13.71 ACRES LOCATED AT 1400 EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD.

MADELINE, DID YOU HAVE THE AERIAL THAT I ALSO SENT? IT SHOULD BE IN THAT AS WELL, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN.

IF NOT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PULL IT UP FOR YOU.

WHILE YOU PRESENT.

I'M ON A MOUSE, BUT IT'S NOT ROLLING DOWN.

LET ME ADD IT TO THE FOLDER REALLY QUICKLY.

OKAY, LET ME COME PULL IT UP FOR YOU.

THINK IT'S THE OPERATOR.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. MARTIN SCHILLING.

THE PROPERTY THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE RED IS THE 13.7 ACRES.

JUST TO KIND OF GIVE A REFERENCE WHERE IT IS IN THE CITY.

THE ROAD ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD.

YOU CAN SEE SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD IS COMING FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH.

THERE IS ONE IMPROVEMENT ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS SABOR DRIVE.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SABER PARKING GARAGE.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED NON RESIDENTIAL PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

THE USES ARE O TWO.

IT'S OUR INTENTION TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE ONE AND TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THERE.

SO NOW CAN I GET BACK TO THE CONCEPT PLAN? THANK YOU. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO FOLLOW KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD.

WE DO HAVE A TRANSMISSION LINE THAT GOES THROUGH THERE FOR ENCORE ELECTRIC.

WE'D HAVE ONE BUILDING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE INTERIOR.

THAT'S TO THE EAST.

BUT BASICALLY YOU CAN SEE THE LAYOUT.

THERE'LL BE ONE OR TWO STORY BUILDINGS.

WE ANTICIPATE IT TO BE BUILT IN PHASES AND WE HOPE TO START IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2023.

OKAY. I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS ITEM FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.

IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO USE MICROPHONE IN THE AISLES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE ITEM.

DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANYBODY WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION OR COMMENT, AND I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY ON LINE QUESTION FORMS EITHER.

SO SINCE OUR FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA DID WITHDRAW, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN SPIN.

AND REMEMBER THAT SPIN REPRESENTS A FIRST STEPS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

A SPIN MEETING REPORT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE AFTER THE MEETING TAKES PLACE AND WE WILL INCLUDE THE SUBMITTED SPIN QUESTION AND COMMENT FORMS IF WE RECEIVE ANY MOVING FORWARD.

THESE REPORTS ARE GENERAL OBSERVATIONS AND THEY ARE NOT VERBATIM.

INTERESTED PARTIES ARE ENCOURAGED TO FOLLOW THE CASE THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

MEETINGS ARE RECORDED AND WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE APPROXIMATELY 24 HOURS AFTER THE MEETING TAKES PLACE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.