Mar 23, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission

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ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

IT'S 6:33 P.M.

HERE IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CITY HALL.

WELCOME TO THE CITY PLANNING AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MARCH 23RD, 2023.

APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE TODAY.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND KICK OFF OUR AGENDA HERE IN ORDER FOR NOW, BUT WE WILL CHANGE IT UP A LITTLE BIT IN A SECOND.

BUT I GUESS WE'LL START OFF WITH ANY ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS, WHICH I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE OF THOSE RIGHT NOW.

[3. Administrative Comments. ]

OF COURSE, I'D LIKE TO FIRST TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AND ANYONE ELSE WAY IN THAT WISHES TO TO WISH COMMISSIONER DYCHE FAREWELL AFTER OUR MEETING THIS EVENING. JUST WANT TO STATE HOW MUCH WE'VE APPRECIATED, APPRECIATED HIS PARTICIPATION IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE OVER THE YEARS.

HE'S SERVED ON ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND THE COMMISSION VERY FAITHFULLY AND APPRECIATE HIS SERVICE TO THE CITY.

YEAH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND PICK THE BALL UP FROM THERE.

[4. Chairman Comments. ]

YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE MORE UNIQUE VOICES ON THE COMMISSION, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD.

YOU'VE ALWAYS NOT ALWAYS THOUGHT WITH THE HERD.

YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SPEAK YOUR MIND DIRECTLY WHETHER YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE RECEIVED POSITIVELY OR OTHERWISE.

APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME THAT YOU'VE SPENT HERE, AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY, YOUR FRIENDS, YOU KNOW, WORK.

I MEAN, IT'S A AS WE ALL KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF VOLUNTEER WORK TO PREPARE FOR THESE TO GET READY TO BE IN THEM, TO RECOVER FROM THEM SOMETIMES.

SO ALL THAT HARD WORK IS VERY MUCH WORTH IT.

YOU KNOW, HATE TO LOSE AN ATTORNEY OFF HERE.

WE'LL BE DOWN TO, I THINK, JUST ONE ATTORNEY NOW, WHICH THERE WERE FIVE ON HERE WHEN I FIRST JOINED AND TEN YEARS AGO.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.

BUT BUT ANYWAY, APPRECIATE IT ALL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO JUST CHIME IN REAL QUICK ON COMMISSIONER DYCHE AND THEN IN A SCARY MOMENT, I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM THE FLOOR TO SAY A FEW WORDS, BUT GO AHEAD. YOU'RE THE TENURED MEMBER HERE, SO I'D LIKE TO SAY THE SAME.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.

IT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROOM HERE.

IT'S ALWAYS OUR LITTLE TIGHT LITTLE GROUP OVER HERE.

AND WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE IN MOST CASES.

SO IT'S A PLEASURE SERVING WITH YOU.

I WILL ECHO THAT.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO COMMISSIONER DIKE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHAT HE HAS TO SAY WILL BE BETTER THAN WHAT ANY OF US HAD TO SAY.

MR.. REYNOLDS I GIVE MR. REYNOLDS. OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU.

ENJOYED IT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S COMMISSIONER SPRINGER AND COMMISSIONER DYCHE THAT TAKE SIGNBOARD THE MOST SERIOUS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO MISS THAT PIECE.

SO MR. ROTHMEIER. YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME WE GET DOWN THE LIST OF EVERYBODY SAYING ANYTHING, SCOTT, IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT LEFT TO SAY, BUT IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE WISDOM THAT YOU BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANKS. THANKS TO EVERYBODY.

I'VE ENJOYED MY TIME.

I'VE IMMENSE RESPECT FOR THE CITY STAFF, WHICH DOES SUCH A GREAT JOB.

AND IN PREPPING US FOR THESE MEETINGS.

AND I'VE ENJOYED MY TIME AND THE CAMARADERIE WITH ALL OF YOU.

BUT I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE CITY OF KELLER HAS OFFERED TO DOUBLE MY SALARY, AND THAT'S WHY I'M MOVING MY TALENTS TO KELLER ON THEIR ZONING COMMISSION.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A VERY ENTERTAINING EVENING OF COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONER, GIVEN HE'S A LAME DUCK UP HERE.

SO NOT NOT THAT YOU EVER HOLD BACK ANYWAY, BUT IT SHOULD BE ENTERTAINING NIGHT.

AND I'LL ALSO PUT IT ON THE RECORD.

I HATE LOSING ONE OF THE FELLOW LONGHORNS FROM UP HERE.

YOU'RE LEAVING ME ON MY OWN ON THAT FRONT.

BUT WE'LL.

WE'LL GET BY, DENNIS, I GUESS.

DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT REAL QUICK? WOULD JUST LIKE TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THERE IS A CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING TO BE HELD WEDNESDAY, MARCH 29TH, 5:30 P.M.

HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

OKAY. AND THAT IS ALL FOR THIS EVENING? NO, THANKS. AND THOSE THOSE MEETINGS JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, THEY'RE ALWAYS OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC.

THERE'S NOT A PUBLIC FORUM DURING THOSE.

BUT PUBLIC'S WELCOME TO HEAR EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON THERE.

THEY'RE WELCOME TO ASK APPLICANTS QUESTIONS AFTER THE MEETING.

SAME THING WITH STAFF AFTER THE MEETING.

GET A HOLD OF ANY MATERIALS.

SO IT'S YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT ON THE VERY FRONT END OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IN TERMS OF WHAT AN APPLICANT MAY EVEN BE CONTEMPLATING.

IT'S NOT EVEN FILED YET.

SO THANK YOU, DENNIS, FOR THAT ANNOUNCEMENT WITH THAT, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, I THINK WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL

[5. Consider: Approval of the minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held on January 5, 2023. ]

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

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LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE, PLEASE.

AND PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WITH THAT, WE'LL GO INTO THE REST OF OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.

WE ARE GOING TO VERY BRIEFLY, I BELIEVE, MOVE UP ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON OUR AGENDA TO THE NEXT ITEM WE'RE GOING TO COVER.

THEN WE'LL TAKE IT THE REST OF THE ORDER HERE, HOPPING BACK TO ITEM SIX AND SEVEN AND THEN WRAPPING UP THE P AND Z PORTION WHERE ANYONE WANTS TO STICK AROUND FOR THE SIGN BOARD PORTION. IT SHOULD BE ESPECIALLY EXCITING TONIGHT.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND KICK OFF WITH ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS A PLAT REVISION FOR A LOT AND CROSS TIMBER HILLS.

[8. Consider: ZA23-0007, Plat Revision for Lot 7R, Cross timber hills, Phase III Addition, located on a property described as Lot 7, Block 6, Cross Timber Hills Addition, Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 1352 Lakeview Dr., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "SF1-A" Single Family District. SPIN Neighborhood #5 PUBLIC HEARING ]

SO REAGAN, I GUESS I MIGHT JUST ASK IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF STOP ON 1 OR 2 KIND OF KEY PAGES AND WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR. THIS IS A PLAT REVISION FOR LOT SEVEN R, BLOCK SIX OF CROSS TIMBER HILLS PHASE THREE EDITION.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED SF 1 A WITH A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT LAND USE.

PROPERTY IS LOCATED PHYSICALLY AT 1352 LAKEVIEW DRIVE AT THE CORNER OF MORGAN LANE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE AS WELL AS A STREET VIEW.

THIS IS THE PLAT OF RECORD SHOWING A 50 FOOT BUILD LINE ON IN BOTH FRONT YARDS.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REDUCTION OF THE WHAT WOULD BE THE SECONDARY FRONT YARD ALONG MORGAN ROAD TO REDUCE THE PROPERTY OR SORRY, THE BUILDING LINE DOWN TO 35FT.

YOU MAY NOTE THAT IN SF 1 A ZONING.

FRONT YARDS ARE REQUIRED TO BE A MINIMUM OF 40FT IN DEPTH.

THIS PLAT, OF COURSE EXCEEDS THAT.

THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SEEKING THIS REDUCTION IN ORDER TO BUILD A SLIGHTLY LARGER HOME THAN WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED OTHERWISE.

THIS WOULD BE THE 50 FOOT BUILD LINE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED 35 FOOT BUILD LINE.

THE COMMISSION IS GIVEN THE AUTHORITY OF GRANTING SUCH A CHANGE IN THE SETBACK THROUGH ORDINANCE 480 AS AMENDED SECTION FOUR AND DEFINITIONS.

THE SECONDARY FRONT YARD CAN BE REDUCED TO AS LOW AS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SIDE YARD SETBACK IN THE ZONING, WHICH IN SF 1 A, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WOULD BE 20FT. SO THE APPLICANT IS SIMPLY ASKING FOR REDUCTION TO 35.

THE APPLICANT, OR AT LEAST A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? AND REAGAN, I GUESS WORTH POINTING OUT, I GUESS EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE PAST PRIOR APPROVALS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER PLATS APPROVED IN THE CITY.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE I CALL THEM UP? I'M HAPPY TO CALL THEM UP IF THEY'D LIKE TO BE CALLED UP.

BUT ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? THIS.

OKAY. HERE, HOLD IT.

FEEL FREE TO COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

BUT I GUESS IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, THEN YOU MIGHT BE IN GOOD SHAPE.

MY NAME IS GREG WRIGHT.

I'M THE OWNER OF PROVIDENTIAL CUSTOM HOMES 624 STONE GLEN DRIVE, KELLER, TEXAS.

I'M COMING A LITTLE LATE TO THE PARTY ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

THE OWNERS JUST RECENTLY ENGAGED ME TO BUILD THEIR HOME ON THIS LOT, AND THEY'RE OUT OF TOWN THIS EVENING.

SO THEY ASKED ME TO COME AND STAND IN AND FACE THE MUSIC.

WELL, HERE WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT I GUESS IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? WELL, I WAS KIND OF LOOKING AROUND, DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE AS FAR AS BEING CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN HERE.

I KIND OF HATE TO SEE THAT PRECEDENT BEING SET IN A EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE IT'S BASICALLY YOU'RE GOING TO WIPE THE LOT OUT AS FAR AS TREES GO.

SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A NICE LANDSCAPE AND TREE MITIGATION PLAN IN PLACE THERE, BECAUSE THIS TREE IS THIS THING IS HEAVILY TREED. AND I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOUR PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE DOING HERE, BUT I JUST HATE TO SEE A PRECEDENT SET MOVING EVERYTHING CLOSER TO THE STREET. OKAY.

YEAH. I MEAN, THAT WAS SOMETHING I LOOKED AT.

I GUESS IT GOT ME MORE COMFORTABLE AS IT WAS THE SECONDARY KIND OF FRONT YARD VERSUS THE PRIMARY.

BUT I THINK IT IS DULY NOTED AS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I KNOW IS NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART POTENTIALLY GETS REDEVELOPED OVER TIME.

SO ANY OTHER QUICK QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF WE APPROVE THIS, CAN WE SPECIFY THAT THAT ALWAYS IF FOR SOME REASON THEY EVER TORE DOWN THIS AMAZING NEW HOUSE AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD ALWAYS HAVE TO BE THE SECONDARY RATHER THAN THE PRIMARY FRONTAGE? I'LL CONFER TO STAFF ON THAT, I GUESS MAYBE.

DENNIS, DO YOU WANT TO MAYBE RESTATE THAT FOR DENNIS? HE'S TRYING TO I CANNOT HEAR YOUR WHOLE QUESTION.

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NOT IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, NO.

THIS WOULD SET THE PLAT OF RECORD CHANGING THAT SIDE YARD ADJACENT TO THE STREET TO THAT 35 FOOT AND WOULD REMAIN SUCH UNLESS REPLATTED AT A LATER DATE.

OKAY. SO KIND OF IS WHAT IT IS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COMMENTS? OKAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

I'M NOT GOING TO FORGET THIS.

THAT ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON OUR AGENDA IS A ITEM THAT IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW TO SEE IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

AND SEEING NO ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON THIS ONE BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON OUR AGENDA ZA 20 3-0007, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED MARCH 17TH, 2023, AND ALSO SUBJECT TO OUR REVISED PLAT REVIEW, SUMMARY NUMBER ONE, DATED MARCH 17TH, 2023.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD AND VOTE, PLEASE.

AND MOTION PASSES 6 TO 1.

SO CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD LUCK.

NEXT LEVEL, WHICH I THINK DENNIS, MY FAVORITE QUESTION, THE NEXT MEETING, ASSUMING THEY MAKE THE DEADLINE, WILL BE ON APRIL 4TH.

THAT IS CORRECT CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THERE YOU GO VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO BACK IN ORDER.

WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SITE PLAN FOR KIRKWOOD EAST.

[6. Consider: ZA23-0003, Development Plan & Site Plan for Kirkwood East located on a property described as Lot 4R1, Block 1, Sabre Group Campus Addition, Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 1400 W Kirkwood Blvd., Southlake, Texas. SPIN Neighborhood #1 Current Zoning: "NR-PUD" Non-Residential Planned Unit Development PUBLIC HEARING ]

ITEM SIX IS A COMBINATION OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A SITE PLAN FOR A DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS KIRKWOOD EAST, LOCATED ON PROPERTY AT 1400 WEST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN A NONRESIDENTIAL PLAN USE DEVELOPMENT AND I BELIEVE IS ZONED OFFICE COMMERCIAL.

I'M SORRY, LAND USE. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.

I HAVE A AERIAL HERE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.

IF YOU LOOK TO THE FAR NORTH, THIS IS THE AREA THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS CALLING FOR OFFICE COMMERCIAL ON THIS SITE.

THE CURRENT ZONING AGAIN IS NON RESIDENTIAL PLAN USE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SABER CAMPUS SITE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWING A COLLECTION OF EIGHT BUILDINGS ALONG KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 50,000FT².

THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN A NON RESIDENTIAL PLAN.

UNIT DEVELOPMENT OFFERS AS A MIDDLE STEP BETWEEN A CONCEPT PLAN AND A FINAL SITE PLAN.

THIS IS JUST THE NEXT STEP TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY AS TO WHAT THE DEVELOPER HOPES TO DO FOR THIS SITE, DESIRES TO DO FOR THIS SITE.

AND SO WITH THAT, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO GO AHEAD AND PROPOSE TWO SITE PLANS FOR TWO BUILDINGS AND I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE NOW.

OH, WELL, FIRST, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THE VARIANCE REQUEST.

THERE IS A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THREE OF THE FOUR DRIVEWAYS ONTO KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD.

THIS IS FOR THE STACKING DEPTH.

THEY'RE PROVIDING 30 FOOT STACKING DEPTH FOR THREE OF THE FOUR DRIVEWAYS WHEN 75FT IS REQUIRED.

OF COURSE, STACKING DEPTH IS BETWEEN THE OPENING OF THE DRIVEWAY UNTIL THE EITHER FIRST PARKING SPACE OR THE CIRCULATION WITHIN THE LOT. SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE THREE, THAT LOCATION.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR LOT FIVE SHOWING BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 9500FT².

THESE ARE THE RENDERINGS FOR THE BUILDING.

AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS.

YOU CAN SEE A COMBINATION OF MATERIALS.

THESE MATERIALS ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE NRPUD CALLS FOR, WHICH IS A MIX OF MATERIALS, WHETHER IT BE MASONRY, STUCCO,

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AND THIS IS THE LOT EIGHT SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS APPROXIMATELY 3300 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

THIS WOULD BE ON THE FAR NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE.

YOU CAN SEE HERE AGAIN, RENDERINGS OF THE STRUCTURES OR THE STRUCTURE.

AS WELL AS ELEVATION SHOWING COMBINATION STUCCO, STONE FACED BLOCKS AND AS WELL AS BRICK.

THIS IS THE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN.

THE SITE TO THE FAR SOUTH IS BEING PRESERVED IN ITS CURRENT STATE, WHICH IT IS MOSTLY OPEN, AS WELL AS SIGNIFICANT CONSERVATION AREAS TO THE NORTH WEST PORTION, INCLUDING A 50 FOOT BUFFER.

THAT IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE SITE ADOPTED IN 1999, AND IT IS REMAINING AS WELL.

THIS IS THE GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN FOR THE SITE.

AND THESE ARE THE UTILITY PLANS.

THIS IS A NORTHWEST VIEW LOOKING NORTH FROM THE ACCESS ROAD THAT IS ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. AT THE TIME OF THIS MEETING, THERE HAVE BEEN NO RESPONSES RECEIVED FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.

I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT, OR AT LEAST CURTIS YOUNG, IS HERE TONIGHT, TONIGHT TO REPRESENT THE APPLICANT AND PERHAPS PRESENT A PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I GUESS, REAGAN JUST REAL QUICK.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT AND SITE PLAN.

SO THAT I MEAN, BASICALLY JUST CONFIRMING THIS IS NOT A ZONING CASE.

THE ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUEST TONIGHT, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THE ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH ORDINANCE 480-313, WHICH CONTROLS THE SITE CURRENTLY.

OKAY, PERFECT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS SHOWS ACCESS ON WHITECHAPEL AND KIRKWOOD.

BUT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE THE SABER PAD THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE SAYS THAT THAT WHITECHAPEL ENTRANCE IS ONLY FOR FIRE EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

SO WOULD THAT BE CHANGING? NOT CURRENTLY, NO.

THE ACCESS ON THE PLAN, THERE SHOULD BE A COMMENT ON THERE SHOULD AT LEAST BE IN COMMENTS IN THE STAFF REPORT APPROVED CONDITIONALLY THAT THAT LANGUAGE REMAIN OKAY, THAT IT'S FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS.

OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU.

ONE QUESTION ABOUT GRADE CHANGE.

IS THERE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I HAVEN'T DRIVEN BY THIS RECENTLY, BUT IS THERE A SIGNIFICANT DROP OFF FROM KIRKWOOD DOWN TO THIS LAND? AM I THINKING ABOUT THAT CORRECTLY, OR IS THIS KIND OF AT GRADE? AT. AT THE DRIVEWAY.

AT THE DRIVEWAY AT THE, YEAH, I GUESS IT DOESN'T DROP DOWN THAT MUCH THERE.

THERE APPEARS TO BE A SLIGHT, BUT OBVIOUSLY WITH THE TREES, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL FROM A PHOTOGRAPH FROM THE GRADING PLAN.

IT APPEARS THERE IS SOME CHANGE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE THINKING MORE SO AROUND THE CORNER, NEXT TO THE VERY BUILDING WHERE IT DOES DROP OFF QUITE A BIT.

IT DOES? OKAY. YES, SIR.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. THANK YOU, REAGAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE APPLICANT UP TONIGHT.

HE'LL STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR RECORD.

AND I'LL NOTE TO THE APPLICANT, I SAW THEM GETTING A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION READY.

THAT SCARED ME A LITTLE BIT.

SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT THIS SATISFIES MY USUAL CRITERIA FOR THEM.

GET MARTIN. OH, WOW.

UPGRADE. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

MARTIN SHILLING 2665 NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

I'M A BELIEVER IN BREVITY.

WE HAVE ALL OF THE SLIDES THAT STAFF SHOWED, BUT I DON'T INTEND TO GO BACK THROUGH THEM.

BUT WE'LL HAVE THEM THERE IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS WHEN WE REFER TO THEM.

SO ON THIS PLAN, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR TRIBLE.

THE CITY HAS RECENTLY THEY'RE NOT QUITE FINISHED, BUT INSTALLED A TRAIL ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF KIRKWOOD.

BUT THEY WOULD LIKE A CONNECTION, A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM KIRKWOOD THROUGH WHITECHAPEL, AND WE'VE AGREED TO WORK WITH THEM.

MORE THAN LIKELY, IT WILL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SABER DRIVE.

AND REGARDING THE SABER DRIVE, IT'S GOING TO STAY IN THE SAME RESTRICTION IT IS RIGHT NOW.

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THERE'S CONCRETE BARRICADES RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES.

IT WILL ALSO BE USED SOME WHEN THEY DO THE IMPROVEMENTS ON DENTON CREEK AND WHEN THEY DO THAT CROSSING TO THE ULTIMATE.

BUT IT'S ONLY LIMITED TO THAT CONTRACTOR DURING THAT TIME FROM KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD DOWN TO OUR DEVELOPMENT, THERE'LL BE A COMMON ACCESS EASEMENT SO WE CAN GET INTO OUR PROPERTY.

BUT THERE WILL NOT BE PUBLIC THROUGH TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE.

AND THEN ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WHERE YOU SEE THAT COMMON OPEN SPACE.

SO IF YOU MAKE NOTE OF IT, WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE PORTION THAT WE ADDRESSED IN THE NARRATIVE.

IT'S ABOUT 2.9 ACRES.

IT'S OUR INTENTION TO DONATE THAT TO THE CITY.

WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DIRECTOR TRIBBLE.

WE'LL NEED TO GO TO THE PARK BOARD.

WE'RE NOT QUITE IN A POSITION TO DEDICATE IT.

THE LIGHTER GREEN ON THIS SLIDE IS WHAT THE CITY ALREADY OWNS.

SO IT GOES AROUND KIRKWOOD AND THEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN WHITE CHAPEL TO DOVE ROAD WHERE THE WATER TOWER IS. SO I THINK WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL STOP BECAUSE I THINK WHAT'S MOST EFFICIENT OF YOUR TIME IS IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS FOR US.

CURTIS IS HERE AND TERRY'S HERE, SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS AND YOU'VE HIT ON THIS ALREADY.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GOT YOU ARE WORKING IN TERMS OF ADDING SIDEWALKS AND SOMETHING CONSISTENT WITH KIND OF THE MASTER PLAN IN TERMS OF PATHWAYS THROUGH THE SITE. I GUESS IT SOUNDS LIKE THROUGH THE THE MIDDLE OF IT THERE, I GUESS IT'S TO CLARIFY ONE OF THE EARLIER QUESTIONS, IT'S NOT VEHICULAR.

IT'S JUST PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

CORRECT. SO THE.

THE TRAIL SYSTEM.

YEAH. YEAH.

SO WE'VE TALKED TO DIRECTOR TRIMBLE ABOUT THAT.

TO COMMISSIONER REYNOLDS'S POINT, WHERE THIS AREA IS HERE, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF A DRAINAGE AREA THAT COMES THROUGH THERE.

THIS PROPERTY IN THAT LOCATION IS REALLY ROUGH.

AND WHAT CHRIS HAD DETERMINED ONCE HE WALKED IT IS IT'S NOT I MEAN, YOU CAN BUILD ANYTHING IF YOU SPEND ENOUGH MONEY, RIGHT? BUT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE FOR THAT TRAIL SYSTEM TO MEANDER THROUGH THERE.

AND STAFF CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS IF I'M NOT RIGHT.

BUT THERE IS NOT A CONNECTION ON THE THE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED FROM KIRKWOOD THROUGH TO WHITECHAPEL.

OKAY. IS THAT I GUESS THAT'S ALL ACCURATE? THAT IS CORRECT.

PLAN ATTACHED TO THE MOBILITY PLAN ORDINANCE DOES NOT SHOW THAT CONNECTION ADJACENT TO THE SABER, WHAT'S CALLED THE SABER DRIVE OR EMERGENCY ACCESS, AS MR. SCHILLING DESCRIBED. THERE IS ANOTHER CONNECTION THAT MEANDERS THROUGH THAT MORE TOPOGRAPHICALLY AND WOODED CHALLENGED AREA.

THAT IS PROBABLY IMPRACTICAL.

OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

EXCUSE ME, MARTIN, WHAT WHAT TYPES OF TENANTS DO YOU ANTICIPATE IN HERE? AND I THINK THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION GETS TO THE REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCE ON A STACKING DEPTH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY CERTAIN TYPES OF TENANTS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE MAYBE MORE THAN WHAT YOU ENVISION.

SO I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T QUITE HEAR YOU, CRAIG, BUT I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE STACKING DEPTH, BUT WELL, MY QUESTION RELATING TO STACKING DEPTH WAS REALLY THE TYPES OF TENANTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THERE.

IF IT WAS A HIGH TRAFFIC, HIGH USE AREA, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONSIDERATION THAN IF IT'S PURE OFFICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT REALLY WAS A QUESTION OF THE TYPES OF TENANTS THAT YOU ANTICIPATE SEEING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

YEAH. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS I'LL ADDRESS ON THAT AND I'LL TALK ABOUT WHO WE THINK ARE PROSPECTIVE TENANTS ARE THE REASON WE THINK IT'S REASONABLE IS THAT KIRKWOOD'S DIVIDED.

AND SO IT'S ONE WAY TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING PAST EACH OF THESE DRIVES.

AND WE'RE ALSO IF WE GO BACK TO THIS.

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SO YOUR VISIBILITY ANGLES BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE OUTSIDE VERSUS THE INSIDE, YOU HAVE A LOT MORE TIME TO MAKE YOUR DECISION NOT TO PULL OUT. SO.

UH, THE BUILDING AT THE FAR NORTH END IS GOING TO BE TERRY WILKINSON'S BUILDING.

CURRENTLY, IT'S GOING TO HAVE FOUR OFFICES IN IT AND A CONFERENCE ROOM.

IT'S GOING TO BE HE AND HIS WIFE.

SO THAT PARTICULAR USE IS GOING TO BE LOW INTENSITY.

THE ONE THAT'S THE 9500 SQUARE FOOT.

THAT GENTLEMAN ACTUALLY HAS AN AUTOMOBILE COLLECTION.

SO HE'S GOING TO HAVE A SMALL FAMILY OFFICE ON THE FRONT, BUT KEEP HIS AUTOMOBILE COLLECTION IN THERE.

AND THEN THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE ARE THEY REALLY NEED A FAMILY OFFICE AND SOMEPLACE TO GO.

SO RIGHT NOW, WE'VE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATION WITH THE MEDICAL USER OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S HIGH TRAFFIC.

I SUSPECT IT WILL BE LOW INTENSITY ON THE USES.

I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT.

BUT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE IT BEING A PLACE WHERE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE RETAIL TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING.

YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH.

COMMISSIONER ROTHMEIER COVERED MY QUESTION.

SO THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I MEAN, MARTIN, EVERYTHING YOU SAID, THAT'S WHAT I ASSUMED AS WELL.

IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS AN ESTABLISHED RETAIL CORRIDOR.

AND THERE'S I MEAN, THE TRAFFIC COUNT HAS TO BE PRETTY LOW ON THIS ROAD.

SO HOPEFULLY THE VARIANTS SEEM TO MAKE SOME SENSE TO ME.

SO AND IT'S NICE JUST IN GENERAL, I GUESS IT'S THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON TERMS OF THE DONATING THAT LAND TO THE CITY.

SO I KNOW THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO, BUT IT'S, IT'S NICE.

NICE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE LET THE APPLICANT GO? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

DO ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM AND SEEING NO.

ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS ONE BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA WSA 20 3-0003, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED MARCH 17TH, 2023, AND ALSO SUBJECT TO OUR PLAN.

REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO, DATED MARCH 17TH, 2023, AND NOTING RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCES REQUESTED.

GOOD MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. GOOD.

OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

PASSES SEVEN ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS.

GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT LEVEL, ASSUMING YOU MAKE IT OUT THERE ON APRIL 4TH.

SO THANK YOU, CURTIS, FOR COMING TO, UM.

[7. Consider: ZA23-0005, Zoning Change and Site Plan for Green Acres Nursery located on a property described as Tract 3D, W.R. Eaves No. 500 Survey, Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 1963 W. Southlake Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "C-2" Local Retail Commercial District. Proposed Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #10 PUBLIC HEARING ]

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR THE GREEN ACRES NURSERY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE IN A SITE PLAN FOR GREEN ACRES NURSERY TO BE LOCATED AT 1963 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM C TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO AN SP ONE DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT WITH C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT USES AND SOME ADDITIONAL USES RELATED TO THE NURSERY ITSELF.

WE'LL POINT THOSE OUT IN JUST A MOMENT.

THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE SHOWING SOME SIGNIFICANT LANDMARKS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

A LITTLE CLOSER VIEW OF THE SITE.

YOU MAY RECALL, IT USED TO BE A TREE FARM ITSELF AT ONE POINT.

THE FUTURE LAND USE CALLS FOR A MIX OF RETAIL, COMMERCIAL AND MEDIUM DENSITY LAND USES.

DO WANT TO JUST POINT OUT THAT THE PROPERTY, OF COURSE, DOES HAVE THIS RETAIL DESIGNATION ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE SITE, EVEN THOUGH THE SOUTHERN END OF THE SITE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

STAFF DOES FIND THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.

CONSIDERING THAT THE PRIMARY USES IN THIS AREA OF THE SITE ARE GOING TO BE VERY LIGHT IN NATURE, SUCH AS CULTIVATION OF PLANTS, STORAGE OF

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OF COURSE, THE COMMISSION, WHEN CONSIDERING THIS ITEM, MAY DESIRE DURING ITS DELIBERATION TO POINT OUT A SIMILAR FINDING AS THE CURRENT ZONING, OF COURSE, HAS NOTED, THE ENTIRE SITE IS ALREADY ZONED C TO AGAIN SUPPORTING STAFF'S FINDING OF ITS CONFORMANCE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS HERE.

I'LL POINT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BREAK THOSE DOWN FOR YOU IN MORE DETAIL HERE IN A MOMENT.

THE PARKING IS TO THE WEST END OF THE SITE AND THEN TO THE SOUTHERN END AGAINST THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE IS A CONSIDERABLE OPEN SPACE AND GREEN AREA AS WELL AS SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING ALONG WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD IN BREAKING DOWN WHAT'S PROPOSED ON THE SITE, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WAS ENCLOSED AND WHAT WAS OPEN.

WHAT WOULD BE THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER.

THIS IS A 26,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDING IN WHICH WILL, OF COURSE, BE ENCLOSED.

THE GREEN BUILDINGS, THIS IS A GREENHOUSE.

THIS IS AN OPEN AIR PAVILION WITH KIND OF A SLANTED PEAKED ROOF.

AND THEN WE HAVE A SHADE STRUCTURE THAT IS ALSO OPEN AIR.

THE REMAINDER THAT IS WITHIN A FENCE THAT ENCIRCLES THE PROPERTY WOULD BE KIND OF OPEN OUTDOOR SUN FOR STORING PLANTS AND PERHAPS SOME YARD FURNITURE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND THEN THERE'S A SMALL WAREHOUSE FOR STORAGE HERE ON THE EAST SIDE THAT IS ALSO ENCLOSED.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED CIRCULATION PATTERN FOR THE SITE.

YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS ENTRANCES, POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS TO BE PROPOSED.

THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS NO CONCERNS WITH ACCEPTING THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AS PRESENTED.

THE ONLY PROPOSAL IS TO PROVIDE A RIGHT TURN LANE PER THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

EASTBOUND ON WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD INTO THIS CENTRAL ENTRANCE TO THE SITE.

THESE ARE THE PERMITTED USES THAT ARE ASKED FOR BY THE APPLICANT THAT WOULD BE ALL EXISTING SEE TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT USES AS WELL AS GARDEN CENTER, PLANT NURSERY AND RELATED USES TO THE GARDEN CENTER.

THESE ARE OUTLINED IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS PROVIDED TO YOU.

THESE ARE THE DEVIATIONS FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 480.

THE FIRST IS A VERY MINOR HEIGHT VARIANCE.

THE ZONING ORDINANCE PERMITS A MAXIMUM OF 35FT, AS MEASURED AS THE AVERAGE HEIGHT OF THE HIGHEST GABLE OF THE BUILDING.

THEY'RE REQUESTING 36.

AND THEN SECONDLY, THE APPLICANT CAN PERHAPS BETTER EXPLAIN THIS REQUEST AS TO IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.

THE PLANS, AS SHOWN, SHOW AN IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE OF 54%.

HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT AND ITS SITE DATA SUMMARY AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS ITSELF ARE REQUESTING 85%.

I HAVE MADE IT CLEAR IN STAFF COMMENTS THAT WHAT IS PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT, IF YOU DO SO, DECIDE TO ADOPT IT AND IF APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, WOULD BE FINAL IN NATURE. ANY CHANGES WOULD REQUIRE REZONING AND BRINGING THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU AGAIN.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

AND AFTER FURTHER REVIEW I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IT DOES MEET THE PARKING STANDARDS REQUIRED.

THERE WAS A NOTE OF THAT IN YOUR REPORT, BUT IT DOES MEET OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

THEY'RE PROVIDING 352 SPACES FOR THE SITE.

THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE OPEN SPACE TO THE SOUTHERN END OF THE SITE.

I WILL JUST SAY FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS THE FARTHEST SOUTHERN STRUCTURE, A SHADE STRUCTURE FROM THE EDGE OF THE SHADE STRUCTURE TO THE SOUTHERN LOT LINE IS JUST UNDER 500FT.

THIS IS THE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'VE SOUGHT TO PRESERVE AS MANY TREES AS THEY CAN TO THE SOUTH.

THEY ARE PROVIDING A DRY DETENTION POND FOR DRAINAGE FOR THE SITE.

THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION.

THIS WOULD BE THE ELEVATION WELL, OBVIOUSLY TO THE WEST.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE PRIMARY RETAIL BUILDING, WHICH IS THE LARGE STRUCTURE.

THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SHADE PAVILION AND THEN THIS SHADE STRUCTURE.

AND THEN BEYOND THE SHADE STRUCTURE IS THE OPEN AIR, OPEN SUN STORAGE AREA.

THIS WOULD BE THE NORTH ELEVATION AS SEEN FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

YOU CAN SEE THE GREENHOUSES AGAIN, OPEN AIR AND THE RETAIL BUILDING.

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WE HAVE SOME BETTER RENDERINGS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, SOME DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.

THIS BUILDING ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS ACTUALLY THE WAREHOUSE BUILDING, WHICH IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS.

AGAIN, A SLIGHTLY BLOWN UP VERSION OF THE WESTERN FACADE AS WELL AS THE NORTHERN FACADE.

YOU CAN GET A GLIMPSE OF IT TO THE LEFT.

AND THIS IS A RENDERING FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

IS THE GRADING PLAN FOR THE SITE, AGAIN, SHOWING THE DETENTION ON THE SOUTHERN END.

AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED UTILITY PLAN.

THESE ARE STREET VIEWS OF THE SITE CURRENTLY.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

THERE IS AN EXISTING METAL STRUCTURE AND MOSTLY OPEN SPACE FOR THE SITE.

AS OF THE MEETING TONIGHT, THE START OF THE MEETING, THERE HAVE BEEN NO OWNER PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES RECEIVED FOR THIS CASE.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES HERE TONIGHT FOR THIS ITEM, BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? WHAT'S THE AND I KNOW YOU COVERED IT.

I THINK IT'S IN THE MATERIALS.

WHAT'S THE SETBACK OR THE DISTANCE FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD TO THE GREEN HOUSE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE OFFICE STRUCTURE? THE SETBACK FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I DO KNOW THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE FROM THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY LINE IS APPROXIMATELY 500FT.

BUT THE FRONT, I WOULD HAVE TO MEASURE THAT OUT, BUT I WOULD EXPECT IT'S ROUGHLY ROUGHLY 100FT.

WELL, I JUST I GUESS I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.

NUMBER ONE, THE GREENHOUSES OBVIOUSLY ARE GOING TO BE BUFFERED BY TREES.

BUT THE PARKING LOT, THE WAY THAT EXTENDED UP HERE LOOKS LIKE IT GETS, IN MY OPINION, MAYBE TOO CLOSE.

AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO ASK THE QUESTION TOO CLOSE TO SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

IF THAT WERE IF THAT WERE REMOVED IN JUST A LITTLE BIT, YOU COULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SPACES.

WOULD THAT STILL COMPLY? I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS AS FAR AS NUMBER OF SPACES, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES AS IT'S PRESENTED TONIGHT WITH ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION AND SQUARE FOOTAGES, THAT WOULD BE 338 PARKING SPACES.

THEY'RE PROVIDING 352.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE ONE. I SEE.

LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A STUB OUT AT LEAST GOING OVER TO THE WALL.

I MEAN, WHAT IT CALLED WALGREENS AREA OVER THERE, IS THAT MEANT TO BE FINISHED OUT SO THAT THAT'LL ALSO BE AN ACCESS POINT? YES, SIR. THERE WOULD BE A SECOND ACCESS POINT TO PATTONVILLE.

OKAY, VERY GOOD. THANKS.

AND REAGAN, MAYBE JUST TO CONFIRM, YOU KNOW, A REMINDER, I GUESS, ON THE EXISTING ZONING IN PLACE, THE C TWO, I MEAN, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD PERMIT USES ON THE RETAIL SIDE THAT WOULD LIKELY BE MORE INTENSIVE THAN THIS, RIGHT? I MEAN, RESTAURANTS.

YES, SIR. UP TO 40,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS.

YES, SIR. SO. UM, THAT'S THE CONTEXT I WAS TRYING TO KEEP IN MIND WHILE LOOKING AT THIS.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, REAGAN.

YES, SIR. NOW, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE APPLICANT FORWARD ON THIS ONE.

DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE WITH US? SAME. SAME DRILL AS BEFORE.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN UP HERE ONCE OR TWICE ALREADY, SO NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND IF I READ THE ARTICLE IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS THIS WEEKEND CORRECTLY, I THINK ARE YOU GUYS HAILING FROM CALIFORNIA, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, TO TWO OF US ARE.

I'M NOT. I'M FROM I'M FROM DALLAS.

OH, OKAY. MY NAME'S JOSH SHULER FROM DALLAS, TEXAS, 5908 STEUBEN COURT, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75248.

ONE OF THE OWNERS.

OKAY. AND I'M CAROLYN COOK.

6160 WARREN PARKWAY, FRISCO, TEXAS.

I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT WITH KIMLEY-HORN.

OKAY, THANKS.

I GUESS ANY, I KNOW WE THANK YOU FOR COMING THROUGH CORRIDOR, I THINK TWICE.

IS THAT CORRECT? AND I KNOW YOU HAD A SPIN MEETING, SO I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO REFINE AND MASSAGE THIS IN TERMS OF ALL THE FEEDBACK YOU'VE BEEN GETTING AND INCORPORATE

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I MEAN, JUST ANYTHING THAT CAN KIND OF JUST MAYBE DESCRIBE THAT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU SEE THAT.

SURE. SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, THE FURTHEST, I GUESS, PLANNED NORTH PARKING SPACE IS JUST SHY OF 50FT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD . THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE GREENHOUSE THERE IS ABOUT 250FT FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

WE ARE SHOWING PLANTINGS THERE IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO TRY TO BUFFER BETWEEN THE PARKING AND SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

CURRENTLY NO BERMING IS PROPOSED, BUT THERE IS ROOM FOR BERMING.

THAT MIGHT BE JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER JUST TO HELP ALLEVIATE.

I GUESS THAT SOUNDS LIKE JUST SOMETHING WE CAN NOTE IN A MOTION THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER.

SURE. SURE.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO JUMP IN WITH SOME QUESTIONS FIRST? I REALLY LIKE THE THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF IT.

IT'S A IT'S AN ATTRACTIVE BUILDING.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF THE SETBACK BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL ON ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

MY QUESTION REALLY HAS TO DO WITH CIRCULATION FOR DELIVERIES.

WHEN YOU HAVE PLANS COMING IN, HOW ARE THEY COMING IN OFF OF TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, 18 WHEELERS, THAT KIND OF THING.

AND AND MAYBE THEY'RE NOT.

MAYBE IT'S BOX TRUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT HOW THEY'RE COMING IN AND HOW THEY'RE LEAVING.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS AND NOTHING'S BEEN COMPLETELY DEFINED.

BUT THERE'S THE ENTRANCE OFF SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD THAT COULD BE USED.

THERE'S AN ENTRANCE COMING OFF OF WHERE THE WALGREENS IS ALONG THE EAST SIDE THAT THAT COULD BE USED.

THERE'S ANOTHER ENTRANCE BEING ADDED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH, WHICH COULD BE USED AND ALL THOSE THAT ONE WOULD GO TO PATTONVILLE. SO ANY OF THOSE WOULD WORK FOR US.

WE CAN ENVISION THE TRUCKS CIRCLING AROUND AND DROPPING PLANTS ALONG THE BACKSIDE.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THERE'S A WAREHOUSE THERE AND THEN WE HAVE THE FULL SUN OUTDOOR AREA.

THOSE WERE THOSE TWO AREAS WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD BE DROPPING THE MOST GOODS.

SO IT WOULD BE IN THE OPEN AREA WHERE THEY'RE DROPPED.

AND HOW MANY TIMES A DAY DO YOU THINK THAT HAPPENS OR A WEEK OR WHAT HAVE YOU? IT FLUCTUATES ACCORDING TO THE SEASON.

SURE. HOW MANY TIMES A DAY DO YOU THINK? TEN. ONE MORE BUSY SPRING.

YEAH. AGAIN ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH EAST SIDE WHICH IS THE BACK.

THE BACK OF THE STORE IS WHERE WE WOULD BE UNLOADING EITHER LIVE GOODS OR ALONG THE WAREHOUSE WHERE WE'D BE UNLOADING OUTDOOR FURNITURE AND GRILLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. GOT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SURE THIS IS YOUR LAST ONE? I THINK THIS IS A GREAT USE FOR THIS THIS PROPERTY.

IF IT CAN'T BE IF IT CAN'T BE JUST PERMANENT GREEN SPACE, WHICH I REALIZE IS NOT REALISTIC.

THIS IS MUCH BETTER THAN SLAPPING UP SOME MORE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS OR OR STRIP MALL OR RESTAURANTS THAT WILL CHANGE SIX TIMES IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

SO I LIKE THIS THIS PLAN AND I LIKE THIS.

THIS USE THIS.

HOW MUCH YOU'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS ALREADY.

SO WE WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. AND WE DO HAVE A LOCATION RIGHT NOW IN IRVING.

WE'D LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO COME VISIT.

YES. NO, PLEASE, ANY LOVE TO SHOW YOU ALL.

READ ABOUT THAT ONE IN THE ARTICLE THIS WEEKEND.

THAT WAS WELL TIMED.

THANKS. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION SO WE WON'T HAVE TO SERENADE YOU WITH GREEN ACRES, RIGHT? OH, I'M SURE THEY HAVEN'T HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE, RIGHT? OH, OKAY.

OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT ITEM AND SEE IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO COMMENT. AND STRIKING OUT FOR THE THIRD TIME HERE.

I SEE NOBODY COMING FORWARD.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PARKING REDUCED DOWN TO WHATEVER THE LIMIT IS.

I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS EXCESSIVE FOR EVEN THE SIZE OF A FACILITY AND MOVING IT AWAY FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND SOME BERMING IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE, I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO COVER THAT PARKING.

I MEAN, THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING LOOKS GOOD.

SO I'M OKAY WITH THE OTHER PART THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE EAST.

BUT I THINK IN THAT PARKING AREA, WE OUGHT TO COVER THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

YEAH, I GUESS I'D MAYBE EXPRESS THE APPLICANT LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE IF AT A POTENTIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING YOU CAN MAYBE EVEN SHOW A RENDERING OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU INCLUDE SOME BERMING, SOME, YOU KNOW, FULL LANDSCAPING, SOMETHING THAT JUST TAKES AWAY FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE PARKING LOT.

I KNOW, I REMEMBER. THAT WAS SOMETHING I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS ON THIS ONE IN TERMS OF THERE EVEN BEING A WILLINGNESS FROM THE COUNCIL TO MAYBE GRANT A VARIANCE ON THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.

BUT I THINK IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU GUYS WANTED THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT YOU HAD ON HERE.

SO I GUESS I'D JUST SAY MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A RENDERING OF THE LANDSCAPING ALONG SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

AND JUST DEPENDING ON HOW THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION GOES, THEY MAY FEEL IN A SIMILAR MANNER.

SO MAYBE BE READY IF THEY SAY THEY MAYBE WANT TO REDUCE SOME OF IT TO HAVE ALTERNATIVE PLANS KIND OF READY TO THROW IN FRONT OF THEM JUST IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THEY GO SO THAT THEY CAN MAYBE FIGURE IT OUT THAT NIGHT.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA, ZA 23-0005, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED MARCH 17TH, 2023, ALSO SUBJECT TO THE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO, DATED MARCH 17TH, 2023, AND NOTING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO CONSIDER OR TO ACTUALLY BRING RENDERINGS TO COUNCIL MEETINGS SHOWING BERMING ALONG SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, AS WELL AS AN OPTION, REDUCING THE PARKING AND MOVING IT BACK FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD ON THE WEST SIDE.

AND THEN ALSO WE'D LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THE MOTION A FINDING THAT WHILE THE SITE HAS RETAIL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE SITE AND THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE SOUTHERN END THAT WE THE COMMISSION FIND, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND THAT THE ENTIRE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AS WELL AS THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING IS FURTHER ALIGNED WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AS THE AREA WITH THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION WILL PRIMARILY BE USED FOR THE CULTIVATION OF PLANTS, STORAGE OF LANDSCAPE SUPPLIES AS WELL AS OPEN SPACE.

FINELY WORDED AND TOTALLY SPONTANEOUS MOTION THERE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AND VOTE, PLEASE.

UH, PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

CONGRATULATIONS. I THINK IT'S A REFLECTION ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE SO FAR.

BUT COUNCIL CAN BE AS PICKY OR PICKIER THAN WE ARE, SO DON'T REST YET.

AND THAT WOULD BE ON APRIL 4TH.

SO NOT AS HANDSOME, ALTHOUGH I GUESS WE'LL BE A LITTLE LESS HANDSOME AFTER THIS EVENING.

SO ANY OTHER PARTING WORDS? I GUESS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GAVEL OUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THE LAST ONE FOR COMMISSIONER DYCHE, BUT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.