Mar 23, 2023 Sign Board

STAY TUNED BECAUSE HERE COMES YOUR FAVORITE MEETING IN TOWN, THE SIGN BOARD MEETING.

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DENNIS, DO WE HAVE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS RELATED TO THIS MEETING? UH, NO. NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, WHICH I'M SURE EVERYBODY IS RELIEVED TO HEAR THAT.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR MARCH 9TH MEETING.

[5. Consider: Approving the minutes from the March 9, 2023, Sign Board Meeting. ]

EXCUSE ME. THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA.

MOTION TO A SECOND.

UH, PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

AND THEN I KNOW I'M DOING THIS ON THE FLY, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY MAYBE WE CAN MOVE UP ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND DO THAT ONE FIRST BEFORE WE DO ITEM NUMBER SIX.

OKAY. I'M SORRY TO DO THAT SPONTANEOUSLY.

I JUST HAVE A FEELING.

OH, WOW.

POOR CURTIS ISN'T EVEN HERE, AND HE'S CATCHING GRIEF.

CURTIS HAS GOTTEN A LOT BETTER OVER THE YEARS.

I MEAN, I COULD SAY TEN YEARS AGO HE WOULD DO A 20 MINUTE, 50 SLIDE POWERPOINT.

HE'S GOTTEN A LOT BETTER.

OKAY. SORRY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA, SIGN VARIANTS FOR ORIGIN BANK.

[7. Consider: SV23-0005 Sign Variance for Origin Bank located at 1110 E. Southlake Blvd., Southlake, Texas. ]

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWING THE SITE ON THE CORNER OF SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND CARROLL AVENUE.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SIGN FOR ORIGIN BANK, WHICH IS ON THE EAST ELEVATION.

THEY'RE REQUESTING 18 INCH LETTERS IN 22.5IN LOGO, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE CAPITAL ONE BANK HAD PREVIOUSLY.

AND THEY ARE JUST ASKING BASICALLY TO MATCH WHAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR SOUTH ELEVATION FACING 1709.

1709 THEY'RE ALLOWED A LARGER SIGN JUST BECAUSE IT IS 1709.

THESE ARE THE OTHER SIGNS THAT THEY HAVE ON SITE WHICH ARE ALL COMPLIANT.

HERE ARE SOME ADJACENT SIGNS.

AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER BANK THAT HAS A SIMILAR VARIANCE THAT WAS APPROVED WITH 18 INCH LETTERS, AND THEY GOT A VARIANCE BECAUSE THEY HAD ONE SIGN FACING SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, WHICH WHERE THEY WERE ALLOWED 18 INCH LETTERS AND THEN ANOTHER SIGN FACING VILLAGE VILLAGE CENTER, WHICH REQUIRED A VARIANCE, AND THEY JUST WANTED THEIR SIGNS TO MATCH.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. AND I KNOW WE REVIEWED THIS ONE IN MORE DETAIL IN OUR WORK SESSION AS WELL.

AND I THINK I GUESS THE SUMMARY I TOOK FROM IT WAS THAT THE REPLACEMENT SIGN ISN'T GOING TO BE ANY LARGER THAN THE SIGN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY THERE AND THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH, AS AN EXAMPLE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE CHASE BANK, I THINK AS WELL IN TERMS OF SIZE.

SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THIS ONE? I GUESS. HERE, HOLD YOUR SEAT.

ANYONE. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IT'S GOOD YOU SHOWED UP.

YOU ALWAYS WANT TO SHOW UP BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, WE TABLE IT SO IT'S GOOD YOU'RE HERE.

BUT IF YOU'VE ALREADY MADE THE SALE, STOP SELLING.

SO ANY.

NO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.

OKAY. THIS ITEM DOESN'T REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I GUESS I'D SAY UNLESS WE NEED FURTHER DEBATE, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA, SV 23-0005 SUBJECT TO STAFF REPORT DATED MARCH 17TH, 2023. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND.

OKAY. THAT VOTE PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD LUCK AT POTENTIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON APRIL 4TH.

SO NOW WE'LL CALL THE LAST ITEM OF THE EVENING AND THE LAST ITEM OF COMMISSIONER DYCHE'S ESTEEMED CAREER.

[6. Consider: MSP23-0001 Master Sign Plan for Methodist Southlake Medical Center located at 335, 401, 421, 431, and 451 E. State Highway, Southlake, Texas. ]

METHODIST SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL CENTER IS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SIGN PLAN FOR METHODIST SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL CENTER, WHICH IS LOCATED AT THE ROUGHLY 400 BLOCK OF EAST SOUTH EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114.

BEFORE I GET INTO IT, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, WHICH LIMITS A LITTLE BIT, LIMITS US A LITTLE BIT ON EMERGENCY SIGNAGE FOR EMERGENCY ENTRY SIGNAGE. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PUT SIGNS AT THE ENTRIES FROM PUBLIC ROADS OR STREETS SERVING THE SITE.

ADDITIONAL SIGNS ON SITE MAY BE REQUIRED TO DIRECT PATIENTS TO THE EMERGENCY TREATMENT AREA ENTRANCE WHEN THE EMERGENCY TREATMENT AREA IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE SITE ENTRY.

ALSO REGARDING ENTRANCES, SEPARATE AMBULANCE AND PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCES AT GRADE LEVEL SHALL BE WELL ILLUMINATED, IDENTIFIED BY SIGNS AND PROTECTED FROM WEATHER.

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AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SHOWING ALL THE SIGNS THERE WILL GO THROUGH TONIGHT.

SO I DID CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THE SIGNS.

LOCATIONS ONE AND FOUR ARE NEW SIGN LOCATIONS.

THESE ARE MONUMENT SIGNS.

AND IF COMPARED TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE, THEY ARE REQUESTING TWO FOR THE STREET FRONTAGE.

THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THESE SIGNS IS EIGHT FEET, 2.5IN.

THE MAXIMUM SIGN FACE HEIGHT IS FIVE FEET, TWO INCHES, AND THE SETBACK IS A LITTLE OVER THREE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

THESE WERE NOT CURRENTLY THESE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT MASTER SIGN PLAN.

LOCATIONS TWO, THREE, FIVE AND 22 ARE EXISTING SIGN LOCATIONS, BUT THEY WILL BE REPLACING THE SIGNS AT THOSE LOCATIONS.

YOU CAN SEE IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER WITH THOSE EXISTING SIGNS LOOK LIKE LOCATIONS SEVEN, 14, 15, 16 AND 17 ARE ALL NEW AND THOSE ARE SHOWN IN RED ON THE SITE PLAN HERE. THESE SIGNS WHEN COMPARED TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR NINE SIGNS.

SIGN ORDINANCE ONLY ALLOWS TWO DIRECTIONAL SIGNS PER SITE MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGHT.

THE REQUESTING IS FIVE FEET.

THE MAXIMUM SIGN FACE AREA IS 13.3FT² AND THEY HAVE NO MASONRY SURROUNDING THE SIGN FACE.

AND UNDER THE SIGN ORDINANCE IT'S REQUIRED SIX INCHES OF MASONRY SURROUNDING SIGN FACE IF IT'S VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.

UNDER THE CURRENT MASTER SIGN PLAN, THEY DO HAVE FIVE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS WITH A MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGHT OF 3.5FT, A MAXIMUM SIGN FACE AREA OF 10.5FT² AND NO MASONRY SURROUNDING THE SIGN FACE.

AND JUST POINTING OUT THAT LOCATION THREE IS A DOUBLE SIDED SIGN.

AND THIS IS JUST SOME PHOTOS KIND OF SHOWING WHERE SOME OF THESE SIGNS WILL BE.

THERE'S A PROPOSED DIRECTIONAL SIGN HERE AND WHAT THE EXISTING DIRECTIONAL SIGN LOOKS LIKE.

YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT IN THIS PICTURE WHERE ONE OF THOSE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS IS.

AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE TEMPORARY SIGNAGE THAT THEY HAVE UP RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THIS THIS MONUMENT SIGN, WHICH WILL THEY'LL HAVE TWO OF THOSE ALONG HIGHLAND.

IT'S JUST SHOWING THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF WHERE THOSE WOULD BE, JUST BE PAST THE SIDEWALK.

THEY ALSO ARE REQUESTING REVISIONS TO SOME OF THEIR ATTACHED SIGNS.

THIS IS AN EXISTING METHODIST SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL CENTER SIGN AND THEY ARE JUST CHANGING OUT THE TAG LINE FROM SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL CENTER OR I'M SORRY, FROM SOUTHLAKE HOSPITAL TO SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL CENTER.

AND HERE'S A PICTURE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.

THE PROPOSAL IS FOR A MAXIMUM AREA OF 248FT², MAXIMUM LETTER, HEIGHT OF 47IN.

PLACEMENT IS LEFT JUSTIFIED AND IT'S AN UPPER STORY, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE IN THEIR MASTER SIGN PLAN.

LOCATION A IS JUST ON THE IS A SIMILAR TYPE OF SIGN.

THEY'RE JUST REPLACING THAT TAGLINE FROM SOUTHLAKE HOSPITAL TO SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL CENTER.

AND IF YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE, THEY WOULD HAVE TWO SIGNS ON THIS STREET FRONTAGE.

SIGN ORDINANCE ONLY ALLOWS ONE PER STREET FRONTAGE.

IT'S ALSO AN UPPER STORY SIGN.

AND I'M JUST POINTING OUT HERE THAT THIS IS WHERE THE SECOND SIGN WOULD BE LOCATED.

AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND.

THIS IS A NEW SIGN LOCATION OVER THE DOORS HERE.

THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT A PANEL SIGN THAT JUST SAYS METHODIST SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL CENTER UNDER THE CANOPY.

AND COMPARED TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE, THIS IS A FLAT PANEL SIGN WHICH WE TYPICALLY ONLY ALLOW THOSE IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS.

AND AGAIN, THE TWO ATTACHED SIGNS PER STREET FRONTAGE WHEN YOU INCLUDE THIS, SIGN HERE AS WELL.

LOCATION 12.

THEY'RE JUST SWITCHING OUT THE SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL SIGN FOR METHODIST SIGN.

AND IT'S THE SAME WITH LOCATION 13, WHICH IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AND THESE SIGNS WERE REQUESTING A MAXIMUM LETTER HEIGHT OF 36IN, MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 36IN, AND A MAXIMUM AREA OF 46FT², WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT IS ALLOWED IN THE CURRENT MASTER SIGN PLAN.

ALTHOUGH THE MAXIMUM AREA IN THE CURRENT MASTER SIGN PLAN, I THINK IT WAS PADDED A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S MUCH BIGGER, BUT THE EXISTING SIGN ON THERE IS NOT THAT LARGE.

AND THEN THIS IS AN ENTRY SIGN OR ENTRY MONUMENT SIGN THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING ON 114.

THIS WOULD BE A NEW SIGN.

THERE IS A SIGN SOMEWHAT IN THE VICINITY.

THIS IS ACROSS THE DRIVE.

THERE'S A DIRECTIONAL SIGN THAT THEY ARE GOING TO REMOVE AND THAT WON'T BE REPLACED.

THIS ENTRY SIGN ON 114 HAS A MAXIMUM SIGN FACE MAXIMUM SIGN, HEIGHT OF 12FT.

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THE SIGN IS A LITTLE BIT OVERSIZE IN TERMS OF THE SIGN FACE AREA.

THEY'RE ALLOWED 80FT² AND THE MINIMUM SETBACK IS 15FT.

AND THIS IS THEIR EXISTING WALL, A SIGN WALL THAT THEY HAVE.

THEY ARE, AGAIN, CHANGING OUT THE TAG LINE HERE TO SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL CENTER.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO WANTING TO ADD ANOTHER SIGN ON HERE THAT JUST INDICATES THAT THIS IS ENTRANCE ONE.

AND UNDER THE SIGN ORDINANCES REALLY JUST ISN'T A PERMITTED SIGN TYPE.

BUT COMPARING IT TO THE CURRENT MASTER SIGN PLAN, THERE'S JUST AN INCREASE IN THE SIGN AREA TO 62FT² BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO SIGN AREAS.

AND THEN THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING A DIRECTIONAL SIGN.

THEY'RE ASKING US TO INCLUDE THIS IN OUR WAYFINDING SIGN SYSTEM PLAN.

SO ALONG 114 PRIOR TO GETTING TO THE HOSPITAL ENTRANCES, HAVING A SIGN THAT SAYS HOSPITAL NEXT TO RIGHTS.

AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD FULLY FUND.

BUT IT'S JUST ONE OF OUR CITY SIGNS.

I'M JUST SHOWING A FEW MORE PICTURES OF THE SITE.

EXISTING DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.

SOME OF THE TEMPORARY SIGNS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UTILIZING.

BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ARE ALL THOSE TEMPORARY SIGNS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED AND THESE WILL REPLACE THEM.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. YEAH.

WITH THE NEW DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, THEY WON'T NEED THE TEMPORARY SIGNS ANYMORE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. I THINK WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DEBATE THIS ONE FIRST AND JUST KIND OF TALK IT THROUGH AND THEN WE'LL CALL THE APPLICANT UP JUST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. I GUESS I WOULD REMIND THE COMMISSION, LIKE STAFF NOTED THAT I GUESS THERE ARE CERTAIN KIND OF TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE LAW CODES RELATED TO THIS BEING AN EMERGENCY ROOM.

AND I'LL ADMIT I PERSONALLY KIND OF LOOK THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LENS.

THIS ISN'T YOUR NORMAL SIGNAGE CASE.

PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THESE SIGNS ARE USUALLY IN A BIG HURRY FOR A REASON, AND I'VE EVEN PERSONALLY BEEN TO THIS ONE BEFORE AND HAD TROUBLE FINDING IT.

SO KIND OF LOOKED THROUGH IT DIFFERENT LITTLE DIFFERENT LENS.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME THINGS IN HERE I THINK WE CAN KIND OF TALK THROUGH.

SO WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND JUST GO ONE BY ONE AS USUAL, AND START WITH THE AND STAFF, MAYBE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYBE BRINGING THEM UP ONE BY ONE AS WE GO THROUGH THEM, JUST LOCATION ONE AND FOR SECONDARY MONUMENT SIGNS.

I GUESS FOR ME, THIS THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FEW THAT I ACTUALLY HAD A COMMENT ON IN TERMS OF MAYBE AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS SIZED DOWN TO THE ORDINANCE SIZE IN TERMS OF TOTAL HEIGHT AND SIGN FACE HEIGHT, JUST GIVEN, THEY DO SEEM PRETTY BIG AND THEY ARE ON WHAT WE WOULD ALL KNOW IS A PRETTY SECONDARY STREET IN TERMS OF HIGHLAND. THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW.

WHERE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO COME FROM.

AND I THINK YOU COULD STILL TELL PRETTY EASILY WHERE YOU'D NEED TO GO IN.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THIS ONE.

YOU KNOW, AS A GENERAL RULE, I THINK IT APPLIES TO SOME OF THESE ARE ALMOST ON STEROIDS.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO TRY AND ALIGN THESE MORE WITH WHAT THE CITY ORDINANCE IS.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU 100% ON THIS ONE ON ISLAND.

SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR EMERGENCY SIGNS, BUT I KIND OF THINK WE'RE GOING BEYOND THE SIZE THAT IS NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT PERSONALLY.

WELL, AND DENNIS, REAL QUICK, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.

I MEAN, I GUESS THERE'S SEVERAL OF THESE SIGNS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S DIRECTLY APPLICABLE TO.

SO WE'RE NOT EVEN REALLY RULING ON THAT TONIGHT.

I MEAN, IT KIND OF IS WHAT IT IS.

BUT I GUESS JUST MORE BROADLY, I GUESS MAYBE IT KIND OF INDIRECTLY APPLIES TO SOME OF THESE SIGNS OR I GUESS HOW HOW SHOULD WE KIND OF INTERPRET THAT WITHIN THIS REQUEST? YEAH, THERE'S SPECIFICITY IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE SIGNS AT THE PUBLIC STREET FRONTAGE AND THEN IT IN THE CODE REFERENCES IT.

THERE MAY BE NEED FOR INTERNAL SIGNS.

SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATION OF ALLOWING THE HOSPITAL TO PUT IN PLACE WHAT IS ADEQUATE TO MAKE SURE THAT TRAFFIC CAN FIND WHERE THAT EMERGENCY ROOM IS AND MANIPULATE THE CAMPUS

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THOSE TYPE THINGS MAY BE MATERIAL APPLICATIONS, SO LONG AS THEY ARE PROVIDING THE COLOR OR WHATEVER LIGHTING IS REQUIRED FOR THOSE PARTICULAR SIGNS IN THE CODE.

ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.

OKAY. AND I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WAS THE SIGNAGE IS IMPORTANT NOT ONLY FOR THE EMERGENCY ROOM, BUT FOR THE OTHER USES AS WELL.

BECAUSE IF THE IF USERS KNOW TO GO TO THE OTHER AREAS FOR THE OTHER USES, THEY DON'T CLOG UP THE EMERGENCY AREA WHEN THEY GET LOST LOOKING FOR THOSE.

SO JUST WAYFINDING IN GENERAL AT THE HOSPITALS IS IMPORTANT.

OKAY. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, AND OUR GOAL HERE, AS ALWAYS, IS I MEAN, COUNCIL IS GOING TO MAKE THE FINAL CALL.

SO I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET IT READY FOR COUNCIL.

SO MAYBE JUST SUGGEST ALTERNATIVES THAT THEY CAN VIEW AND CONSIDER AND, YOU KNOW, SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.

SO I GUESS ON THIS FIRST ONE, THE LOCATIONS ONE AND FOUR MONUMENTS MAYBE ON THIS ONE.

NOT GRANTING THE VARIANCES RELATED TO TOTAL HEIGHT AND MAXIMUM SIGN FACE.

AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL NOT GOING TO AGREE ON EVERY PIECE OF THIS, SO MAYBE WE JUST TRY TO FIND WHAT WE THINK CONSENSUS IS AND THEN OUR ESTEEMED VICE CHAIR WILL TRY TO NOTE IT ACCORDINGLY.

DOES THAT SOUND GOOD ON THIS ONE? THE NEXT ONE INTERNAL VEHICULAR DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, OF WHICH THERE ARE NINE.

PERSONALLY, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE NINE.

I GUESS YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THE SIZE.

I THINK THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT SIZE ON THESE, I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO HAVE THEM HIGH ENOUGH SO YOU COULD.

SEE THEM OUT OF A CAR.

I GUESS WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT ABOUT THIS.

MAYBE WHEN THEY THEY COME UP, BUT.

UM. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON THESE? IF IT'S INTERNAL.

I DON'T SEE WHY ANY OF US SHOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

WE MAY SAY, I BET YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

IT'S INTERNAL. IT'S NOT SEEN FROM THE STREET.

AND IT'S IT'S ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE FOR SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS TO GET SOMEWHERE IN A HURRY.

SO I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM.

OKAY. I'M JUST GLAD THEY CHOSE NOT TO PUT METHODIST MEDICAL CENTER ON IT LIKE ALL THE OTHER SIGNS, WHICH SEEMS A LITTLE REDUNDANT TO ME.

SO I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT IT'S TO THE POINT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST, THOUGH, IS INSTEAD OF ALL THESE SIGNS, IF THEY DID THREE GIANT SIGNS THAT COULD BE SEEN FROM OUTER SPACE LIKE A NEIGHBOR HERE, WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

AND THERE'S A LITTLE SARCASM IN THAT.

SO APPLICANT, PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.

THAT'S ONE OF HIS SORE SPOTS.

OKAY. SO ACTUALLY, THE SIDE OF MY RIGHT ON THE DAIS ACTUALLY LIKES IT, WHICH IS RARE TO HAVE THAT AFFINITY AND CONSISTENCY.

SO I GUESS IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THESE? AS OKAY. OKAY WITH THESE AS IS THE NEXT COUPLE SIGNS ARE ONES THAT OR THE NEXT THREE SIGNS ARE ONES THAT FALL UNDER THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. SO WE WILL NOT BE RULING ON THOSE, CORRECT, DENNIS? WE'LL LET THOSE.

THESE. WHAT? THOSE GO OKAY WITH YOU? YES. AND THEN I BELIEVE ATTACHED SIGN LOCATION SIX.

THAT'S IN FRONT OF US HERE.

THERE'S NOT ANY AND STAFF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THERE'S THERE'S NO PROPOSED ESSENTIALLY CHANGES IN SIZE OR ANYTHING.

IT'S JUST THEY'RE REPLACING THE SIGN THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME SIZE.

OKAY. YES.

OKAY. SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD THERE.

AND SAME THING ON SIGN EIGHT.

THAT'S THE SAME THING THERE, I GUESS.

NOTHING. NO INCREASES REQUESTED.

THAT IS CORRECT. YES.

FROM THE EXISTING SIGN.

OKAY. SIGN NINE.

THIS ONE IS A NEW SIGN, BUT I THINK I KNOW.

OKAY. YEAH, PERFECT.

GOT THIS FROM THE STAFF REPORT.

SO MAYBE BACK TO COMMISSIONER DYCHE'S COMMENTS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE UNDERNEATH THE ENTRYWAY TO THE MAIN PART OF THE HOSPITAL.

SO I GUESS IT IS A NEW SIGN.

BUT I GUESS WE CAN JUST TAKE A POLL REAL QUICK AS TO HOW OFFENSIVE OR NOT.

OKAY. I GOT A THUMBS UP DOWN HERE.

THUMBS DOWN.

THUMBS UP.

WELL, WE HAVEN'T DONE IT LIKE THIS BEFORE.

MAYBE I'M GOING TO CALL THAT A THUMBS UP THUMBS.

NO, IT WAS JUST THE IDES OF MARCH ORIGINALLY.

YES. SO. OKAY.

GOD. WOW.

CAN FEEL THREATENED.

OKAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW EVERYBODY VOTES.

WE'LL UNDERSTAND.

UM. OKAY, SO THAT WAS SIGNED NINE AND WHEN WE GET LOST IN THIS, SO 12 AND 13, SAME THING HERE IN TERMS

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CORRECT? OKAY.

OKAY. SO I THINK WE'RE OKAY THERE.

AND THEN PRIMARY MONUMENT SIGN ALONG.

114 LOCATION 19 HERE.

SO THIS ONE IS A NEW SIGN AND IS A LITTLE LARGER THAN WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS REQUESTING.

SO I'LL OPEN THIS ONE UP TOO.

THIS ALONG? IS THIS THE PRIMARY SIGN? YES, IT TELLS YOU.

UH, SO THIS, I GUESS STAFF, I GUESS MAYBE YOU CAN WEIGH IN.

THIS IS THE SIGN THAT WILL BE REMOVED, AND THAT'S WHERE IT'LL BE PLACED.

OKAY, PERFECT.

SO RIGHT THERE, I GUESS, COMING DOWN THE ACCESS ROAD, THAT'S WHERE IT WILL BE LOCATED.

OKAY. I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THE SIZE OF THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE IS MUCH LARGER, BUT THEIR ACTUAL SIGNED FACE HEIGHT IS IS SMALLER THAN THE PERMITTED SIGN.

I WOULD THINK THEY'D WANT THE SIGN FACE TO BE BIG AND NOT NECESSARILY NEED THE STRUCTURE TO BE SO BIG.

BECAUSE IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE.

YEAH, IT'S IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE.

ANY OTHER KIND OF LIKE THE HIGHLANDS COMMENT WHERE IT JUST KIND OF BE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ONE SHOULD BE BIGGER SINCE IT'S ON 114, BUT I DON'T KNOW, 17FT.

WELL, MAYBE. MAYBE THIS IS ONE WHERE WE CAN REQUEST THAT THEY PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE YEAH, THE ORDINANCE AND THEN COUNCIL CAN SIMILAR TO THE OTHER ONE COUNCIL CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN SHOW.

HOW IT MOVES IN HEIGHT AND WHY THEY WANT IT.

LAST ONE SIGN LOCATION 21 AND CORRECT ME AGAIN STAFF IF I'M WRONG ON THIS.

THIS WAS ITS SAME SIZE.

IT'S JUST A REPLACEMENT.

CORRECT. AND THEN IDENTIFICATION OF ENTRANCE NUMBER WOULD BE ADDED TO THE THE ADDRESS NUMBER, WHICH I THINK IS A CITY REQUIREMENT.

CORRECT? NO, NO.

OH, I'M SORRY. ENTRANCE ONE.

THIS IS AN ENTRANCE.

OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S SIGN WISE.

THEY'RE TRYING TO CLARIFY WHICH ENTRANCE TO GO IN FOR EMERGENCY CARE.

CORRECT. GOTCHA.

OKAY. OKAY. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE.

THE ONLY THING IS WRONG WITH IT IS NOBODY'S GOING TO SEE IT.

SO IT'S THERE.

BUT. IT'S RIDICULOUS TO PUT IT THERE.

DULY NOTED. ANYONE ELSE? NO COMMENTS. OKAY.

AND THEN THERE'S NO COMMENTS FROM US ON SINE 23 OR LOCATION 23.

THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S IN COUNCIL COUNCIL'S PURVEY IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT OR YOU MAY CERTAINLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THIS.

WELL, IS THERE NOT A ONE OF THOSE BLUE HOSPITAL SIGNS ALREADY ON THE HIGHWAY OR AM I MISTAKEN? I THINK SO, YES.

MAYBE HAVE THE APPLICANT.

YEAH, WE'LL HAVE THEM COME UP HERE IN A SECOND.

THEY ARE WORKING WITH TXDOT REGARDING ONE OF THOSE, I THINK, BUT I'D DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON THAT.

DO WE? I GUESS MAYBE STAFF DO WE HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS ON 114? UH, WE HAVE SOME OF OUR WAYFINDING SIGNS, WHICH SOME OF OURS ARE MORE JUST.

HERE'S CITY HALL, HERE'S DRAGON STADIUM.

I MEAN, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY OF THIS, WE'RE NOT EXCITED.

I AM ABOUT THESE.

I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WITH ALL OF THE SIGNAGE THAT'S PROPOSED ON THE HOSPITAL AND THE VISIBILITY THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE FROM A DISTANCE, I THINK THESE ARE SUPERFLUOUS AND NOT NEEDED.

OKAY. WELL, WE CAN NOTE THAT WE'RE WE CAN SEE WHAT COUNCIL THINKS.

OKAY. WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND CALL THE APPLICANT UP NOW, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD KIND OF OUR COMMENTS AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH HERE AND WE CAN JUST TALK ABOUT IT REAL QUICK JUST IN TERMS OF IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE US TO CONSIDER BEFORE WE PUT TOGETHER A MOTION.

SO I GUESS ANYONE FROM THE APPLICANT WANT TO COME UP AND.

AND PLEASE JUST GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I'M BERNIE BABINGER WITH BABINGER DESIGN GROUP 8140 WALNUT HILL, DALLAS, TEXAS.

OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO.

GOOD EVENING, BENSON CHARCOT HOSPITAL PRESIDENT MEMBERS SOUTHLAKE 6912 MOZART, COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS.

OKAY. 76. YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK JUST TO EXPLAIN IT REAL QUICK, IN GENERAL, I THINK WE WERE SUPPORTIVE OF ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU PUT IN FRONT OF US.

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SO COUNCIL WOULD SEE BOTH VERSIONS, BUT JUST NOTING THAT WE WANTED TO SHOW THEM THE SMALLER VERSION.

AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS ALSO VICE CHAIR CAN SAVE ME, I GUESS..

SIGN NINE.. SIGN 19.

NINETEEN I THINK ALONG THE THE FREEWAY.

BUT YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SIGN NINE IS THAT.

YEAH THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S OVER THE ENTRY WHICH..

YEAH. STAFF CAN DON'T SEE A REAL PURPOSE FOR THAT IF YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW YOU'RE AT METHODIST HOSPITAL BY THE TIME YOU GET HERE YOU'RE IN TROUBLE ANYWAY.

YEAH. DO YOU MIND MAYBE JUST ADDRESSING THE REQUEST FOR THAT ONE? ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ADDED IT TO THE PACKAGE IS AS YOU ENTER THE SITE, IT'S ACTUALLY A LOOP DRIVE, SORT OF LIKE AN AIRPORT, AND YOU'VE GOT ENTRANCES FOR THE HOSPITAL.

AND IF YOU CONTINUE ON AROUND, YOU'VE GOT ENTRANCES FOR THE PROFESSIONAL BUILDING.

SO PEOPLE WERE WHAT WE WERE HEARING WAS PEOPLE WERE GOING ZOOMING PAST THAT DOOR BECAUSE THERE WERE NO TAGS.

THE DOORS PHYSICALLY ARE PERPENDICULAR TO THE DRIVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, HAD NO IDEA THAT IT'S REALLY THE MAIN ENTRANCE FOR THE HOSPITAL.

SO IT MADE A LOT OF SENSE FOR US FROM A WAYFINDING STANDPOINT FOR THE PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THAT'S THE ENTRANCE TO THE HOSPITAL AND NOT THE EMERGENCY ROOM, WHICH I THINK BENSON YOU HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S THERE.

IT COULD CERTAINLY BE INDIVIDUAL LETTERS AND NOT A BOX THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE MORE TASTEFUL, WHICH IS CERTAINLY CAN BE REVISED. SO YOU'RE DEALING WITH INDIVIDUAL LETTERS.

THE ILLUMINATION WOULD BE FROM THE CANOPY ABOVE.

SO IT WOULD WORK.

AND HAVING THE ADDRESS, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE MOB HAS A DIFFERENT ADDRESS.

SO I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WE DID IT.

OKAY. UM, AND I GUESS YOU HEARD OUR LAST COMMENT.

I MEAN, I GUESS YOU CAN TAKE IT UP WITH CITY COUNCIL, BUT I GUESS MAYBE WE'LL JUST NOTE THAT WE, I GUESS OUR VICE CHAIR CAN WORD IT DELICATELY, MORE DELICATELY THAN WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, BUT THAT THE SOUTHLAKE CITY DIRECTIONAL SIGNS LOCATION 23 MIGHT BE OVERKILL, I GUESS, IN OUR EYES.

WELL, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DID THAT IS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SITE PLAN THAT ACCESS ROAD ON 114 HAS GOT A CURVE TO IT.

AND THAT ENTRANCE NUMBER ONE, THE BIG YOU DON'T SEE THAT SIGN.

AND SO WE SAID, WELL, THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE PROBABLY OFF OUR PROPERTY THINKING IT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE OVER THE CREEK.

SO WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE A HEADS UP.

IT'S LIKE A BLUE H, IT FUNCTIONS AS BLUE H BUT I THINK ALSO IT FUNCTIONS FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE THAT WE'RE USING THERE, THAT THIS IS THEIR CENTER, THEIR MEDICAL CENTER.

I'M TRYING TO TIE IT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY USING THE PUBLIC WAYFINDING AND THOSE SIGNS, THE WAY THEY'RE DESIGNED AND YOUR SIGN MANUAL ARE TEX-DOT APPROVED.

SO THE BEAUTY IS IT CAN GO IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

LOOKS LIKE STAFF KIND OF FLIP TO IT REAL QUICK BACK.

THERE YOU GO. WE CAN GET SOME CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICATIONS OUT OF THE SIGN MANUAL.

SO THESE HAVE BREAKAWAY POLES AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT'S REQUIRED FOR TXDOT.

AND CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SIGN LOCATION FOR THAT? I GUESS THE MAP THAT SHOWS LIKE ALL THE 23 WAY UP IN THE RIGHT HAND CORNER PAST TO THE LEFT OF ENTRANCE ONE.

OKAY. AND THAT'S KIND OF A CONCEPT.

OKAY. JUST ONE ONE OF THOSE SIGNS OR TWO OF THEM? JUST ONE AND.

OKAY, SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ACTUAL SIGN ITSELF.

OKAY, THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT LAYOUTS.

OH, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY.

SO JUST OPTION A, OPTION B, OUR PREFERENCE IS TO HAVE METHODIST SOUTHLAKE NEXT TO RIGHTS.

I DON'T THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KNOW WHAT METHODIST SOUTHLAKE IS.

SO TO ME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A SIGN IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, IT SHOULD JUST SAY HOSPITAL, BECAUSE THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT, 99% OF PEOPLE I WOULD BE LIKE, I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA WHAT METHODIST SOUTHLAKE IS. NO OFFENSE, BUT HOSPITALS ARE REALLY GET TO THE POINT.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE DRIVING. YEAH, I COULDN'T GET IN FRONT OF THE OTHER ONE AT ALL.

BUT A HOSPITAL I COULD BE.

THIS IS GIVING EVERYBODY A HEADS UP BEFORE THEY EVEN GET TO THE SITE AND THAT WAS THE REASON TO DO THAT.

AND IT WASN'T ON OUR PROPERTY.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? YOU KNOW, I'M STILL NOT IN FAVOR OF IT NECESSARILY, BUT IF IT'S JUST GOING TO SAY HOSPITAL, I MIGHT SUGGEST YOU PUT YOUR LOGO ON IT.

CITY SIGNS HAVE THE CITY LOGO ON THEM.

I DON'T THINK A LOGO ON A SIGN LIKE THIS WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE PERSONALLY.

THAT HELPS THE SAYING, THE METHODIST LOGO, THE METHODIST LOGO THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR OTHER SIGNS.

I'M JUST SAYING WE'D LOVE IT.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF HAVING THIS SIGN.

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YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

YEAH. THIS IS THE ONLY ONE I'M AGAINST.

IT SEEMS SUPERFLUOUS TO COMMISSIONER ROTHMEIER COMMENT EARLIER.

I THINK IF I'M LOOKING FOR THE HOSPITAL, I'LL PUT IT IN MY GPS HOSPITAL AND I'M GOING.

AND SO I'M MORE CONCERNED CIRCULATION WITHIN THE HOSPITAL GROUNDS WITH ALL THE OTHER SIGNS THAN I AM THIS.

I KNOW IN THAT BIG WHITE BUILDING SITTING OVER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IS PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION YOU'RE CLOSE TO THE HOSPITAL.

SO AND IT SEEMS TO BE FAIRLY WELL MARKED.

WELL, WHAT WE'LL DO IS, I THINK IN OUR IN OUR MOTION, WE'LL PROBABLY RECOMMEND AGAINST THEM.

BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN BRING THESE BACK TO COUNCIL AND YOU CAN PROPOSE WHILE THEY WEREN'T INCLUDED IN OUR MOTION.

SO YOU'D LIKE TO ASK THEIR REQUEST AND INCLUDE THEM AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY THINK.

AND MAYBE, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'VE GOT OPTION A AND B HERE AND MAYBE JUST REFINE THAT BASED ON ANY OF THE FEEDBACK YOU HEARD TONIGHT.

MAYBE YOU CAN SHOW AN OPTION C, THAT INCLUDES SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE HEARD.

AND. SURE. AND THEY'LL THEY'LL BE THE FINAL ARBITER OF ALL THAT.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE HERE.

THE QUESTION I'VE GOT FOR YOU GUYS IS ON SIGNS ONE AND FOUR, WHICH ARE THE SECONDARY MONUMENT SIGNS.

YES. IN THE SIZE.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT'S BIG IS THAT THERE'S A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A STONE SURROUND ON THE SIGN.

AND THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, CAN WE ELIMINATE THAT SURROUND AND JUST HAVE THE BASE? HAVE A MASONRY BASE, BUT NOT THE SURROUND? THE SURROUND. HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THAT..

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU I GUESS YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU REVISE IT DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT MATCHES THE ORDNANCE SIZE.

PART OF OUR STRUGGLE IS THAT THAT WELL, IT SAYS SEVEN, BUT IT'S EIGHT INCH EMERGENCY COPY.

YEAH. SO YOU KNOW, IN A REAL WORLD ON THE SECONDARY STREETS, WE'D PROBABLY JUST PUT A STONE BASE AND NOT THE SURROUND AND THAT WOULD REDUCE IT SIGNIFICANTLY.

MY, MY COMMENT MIGHT BE MAYBE YOU JUST BRING THAT VERSION TO COUNCIL AND SHOW THEM AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THE VARIANCE FOR THE SIZE WAS NOT APPROVED.

HERE'S WHAT IT ORIGINALLY LOOKED LIKE.

HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITH A TOTAL MASONRY SURROUND.

BUT HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITHOUT THAT.

AND HERE'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ABOVE.

WE CAN YEAH, WE CAN MAINTAIN THE MASONRY BASE, BUT THEN WE CAN.

I GUESS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE EMERGENCY WRITING IS LARGE ENOUGH.

CORRECT. I MEAN, BASICALLY, THAT SILVER BOX WILL REMAIN THE SAME SIZE.

IT COULD BE A LITTLE SMALLER.

BUT AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THAT DIMENSION OF EMERGENCY THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH.

YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT. OKAY.

YEAH. WELL, I THINK YOU COULD BRING THAT VERSION BACK TO COUNCIL AND SHOW THEM THE ALTERNATIVE AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK.

COULDN'T YOU REDUCE THE METHODIST IN THE LOGO AND DO THE SAME THING AS FAR AS INCREASING THE EMERGENCY SIGN AND REDUCE THE LOGO? BECAUSE THERE AGAIN, I MEAN, IT'S IF SOMEBODY IS LOOKING FOR AN EMERGENCY ROOM, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TO KNOW THAT IT'S METHODIST SOUTHLAKE MEDICAL CENTER. SO I MEAN, I JUST DON'T SEE HAVING THE NAME ON THE BUILDING 400 TIMES.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST OVERKILL..

WHERE 1 IN 4 ARE LOCATED, THERE'S NO BRANDED SIGNS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

SO BUT THE EMERGENCY MIGHT BE THE CLUE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING I'M NOT SAYING DO AWAY WITH YOUR SIGN AND YOUR LOGO ALTOGETHER, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THE PROMINENT FEATURE OF THE SIGN.

IN MY OPINION.

WE CAN DO SOME REVISED LAYOUTS.

NOT A PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANTS? OKAY, NOW I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU FOR WAITING IT OUT TONIGHT.

THIS WASN'T TOO LONG, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

SO WE DID WORK THROUGH THINGS PRETTY QUICKLY.

I'VE BEEN HERE FAR LATER AT NIGHT THAN THIS.

FAR LATER? EXACTLY.

YEAH. I'D LIKE TO THINK WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BETTER AT THIS OVER THE YEARS.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND FORMULATE A MOTION.

WE'LL VOTE ON IT AND THEN WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.

THANK YOU. OKAY. COMING UP HERE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THINK YOU'VE GOT IT HERE? I'M READY TO GO. ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA, MSP 23-0001, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED MARCH 17TH, 2023. AND SPECIFICALLY NOTING WITH REGARD TO THE SIGNS AS FOLLOWS.

LOCATION ONE AND LOCATION FOUR, RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE MAXIMUM TOTAL HEIGHT VARIANCE AND THE MAXIMUM SIGN FACE HEIGHT VARIANCE AND NOTING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO BRING ADDITIONAL OPTIONS TO COUNCIL, INCLUDING ONE WITHOUT THE STONE SURROUND AND POSSIBLY ONE MODIFYING THE LOGO AND NAME SIGNS WITH REGARD TO LOCATION TWO, THREE,

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THE INTERNAL SITE VEHICULAR DIRECTIONAL SIGNS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THOSE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ATTACHED SIGN FOR EMERGENCY AT LOCATION 03.1.

RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE ATTACHED SIGN FOR AMBULANCE AT LOCATION 03.2 RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE MONUMENT SIGN FOR EMERGENCY AMBULANCE AT LOCATION OF 3.3, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE ATTACHED SIGN ON THE NORTH ELEVATION OF THE PARKING GARAGE AT LOCATION SIX, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE ATTACHED SIGN NORTH ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING AT LOCATION EIGHT, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE ATTACHED SIGN NORTH ELEVATION TO BUILDING LOCATION NINE AND NOTING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO BRING AN ADDITIONAL OPTION WITH LETTERS, INDIVIDUAL LETTERS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S PRESENTED.

ALSO NOTING RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF ATTACHED SIGN ON BUILDING ONE EAST AND WEST ELEVATIONS AT LOCATIONS 12 AND 13 AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE PRIMARY MONUMENT SIGN AT LOCATION 19 ALSO WITH THE APPLICANT BRINGING ADDITIONAL OPTIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE ORDINANCE ON THE MAXIMUM SIGN FACE AREA AND THE MINIMUM SETBACK.

AND THEN FINALLY NOTING RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL ON THE WALL MONUMENT SIGN LOCATION NUMBER 21 AND RECOMMENDING DENIAL ON THE SOUTHLAKE DIRECTIONAL SIGN LOCATION 23, BUT NOTING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO BRING OR CONTINUE TO SHOW OPTIONS FOR WHAT THEY WANT ON LOCATION 23. FINELY CRAFTED MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE'LL SEE IF ANYONE MAYBE THE DISTINGUISHED MEMBER DOWN THE ROAD WANTS TO OFFER A SECOND ON IT OR HIS LAST SECOND.

SECOND. HIS LAST SECOND EVER.

OKAY, LET'S VOTE, PLEASE.

WOW. SEVEN ZERO.

YOU SHOULD REALIZE SEVEN ZERO VOTES ON SIGN CASES HERE ARE NOT THAT COMMON.

SO CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ASSUMING YOU MAKE IT ON TIME ON APRIL 4TH.

AND WITH THAT, WE ARE DONE FOR THE EVENING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.