Apr 18, 2023 City Council

[1. Call to order]

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO TONIGHT'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

WE ARE GOING TO START, AS WE DO EVERY NIGHT AT COUNCIL WITH A WORD OF INVOCATION FROM OUR CITY CHAPLAIN, PASTOR CLAY REED.

SO YOU GUYS, PLEASE RISE AND JOIN US AND STAY ON YOUR FEET FOR THE PLEDGES AFTER THAT.

PASTOR REED? MAYOR, LET'S PRAY TOGETHER.

DEAR LORD, WE GIVE THANKS FOR THIS EVENING AND WE STOP NOW AND JUST GIVE THANKS FOR THE FREEDOM TO COME TOGETHER IN PRAYER.

AND TO SAY OUR FATHER.

WHAT A JOY IT IS TO SAY YOUR NAME AND TO KNOW THAT YOU HEAR US AND THAT YOU RESPOND WHEN WE TALK TO YOU.

WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE AS AMERICANS TO ENJOY THAT PRIVILEGE TOGETHER.

WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO WORK TO PRESERVE THAT FREEDOM.

WE PRAY STRENGTH FOR THEM, AND WE GIVE THANKS FOR EVERY AMERICAN, FOR EVERY PERSON WHO HAS STOOD UP FOR THE RIGHT TO PRAY PUBLICLY. WE GIVE THANKS BECAUSE YOU HEAR US.

WE GIVE THANKS ALSO BECAUSE YOU RESPOND OR WE MANY TIMES HAVE PROBLEMS. WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO TURN TO.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN, BUT WE'RE SO THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO HEAR OUR VOICE WHEN WE SAY OUR FATHER.

SO WE PRAY BLESSING ON THIS MEETING TONIGHT, BELIEVING THAT YOU HEAR US, THAT YOU CARE ABOUT US, THAT YOU WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR US, AND YOU'RE WORKING IN OUR LIVES AND IN OUR HEARTS.

THANK YOU FOR THIS ROOM.

WE PRAY PEACE AND SAFETY AND PROTECTION OVER EVERY PERSON IN THIS ROOM.

WE PRAY PEACE OVER EVERY DECISION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.

WE PRAY PROTECTION FOR OUR CITY, FOR BLESSING UPON THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE AND LORD.

TOGETHER WE GIVE THANKS THAT WE LIVE HERE, THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR US, AND THAT YOU'RE GOOD TO US.

WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

AMEN. THANK YOU, PASTOR REED.

JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AND THE TEXAS PLEDGE.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU. PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS.

OKAY, SO WE'LL CALL THIS WORK SESSION TO ORDER.

[3. Honors & Recognition: Proclamation for Alliance for Children - Child Abuse Prevention Month ]

SO WE'RE I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE BERYL MORGAN FROM THE ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN.

MR. MORGAN, ARE YOU HERE? COME ON DOWN, SIR.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO A PROCLAMATION FOR YOU GUYS IN HONOR OF YOUR WORK AND FOR AWARENESS OF YOUR ISSUES.

SO TAKE IT AWAY, SIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS BERYL MORGAN, AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS CHIEF PROGRAM OFFICER FOR ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN.

FIRST, LET ME THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING APRIL AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

AS YOU NOTED, AS THE PROCLAMATION MAY NOTE, CHILD ABUSE IS A SERIOUS CHALLENGE FACING OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO NOT ONLY SERVING CHILD VICTIMS, BUT WORKING TO PREVENT ABUSE FROM OCCURRING.

WE ARE GRATEFUL TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE AND TO PARTNER WITH YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN OUR RESPONSE TO ABUSE INVESTIGATIONS.

ALL WORK TOGETHER AND CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN INVESTIGATIONS IS VITAL BY COLLABORATING IN A MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM APPROACH.

IT'S A FELONY CHILD ABUSE.

WE ARE CREATING A RESPONSE THAT IS MORE EFFICIENT AND MORE EFFECTIVE FOR THE PROTECTION OF CHILDREN.

A CRITICAL PIECE TO PREVENTING FUTURE ABUSE IS HOLDING OFFENDERS ACCOUNTABLE.

WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR OUR WORK WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SEEK JUSTICE FOR CHILD VICTIMS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT, FOR OUR WORK.

FOR OUR WORK.

EACH YEAR, THE SUPPORT WE RECEIVE FROM OUR PARTNER CITIES, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TARRANT COUNTY ARE CRITICAL TO OUR AGENCY.

YOUR STEADY AND DEPENDABLE SUPPORT.

MAKE OUR SERVICE TO OUR CHILDREN POSSIBLE.

EVERY SERVICE, INCLUDING INVESTIGATION, COORDINATION, FORENSIC INTERVIEWS, CASE MANAGEMENT AND TRAUMA FOCUSED MENTAL HEALTH IS PROVIDED AT NO COST TO CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, AND YOUR SUPPORT MAKE THAT POSSIBLE.

WHILE WE LONG FOR THE DAY THAT CHILD ABUSE IS ERADICATED FROM OUR COMMUNITY, PLEASE KNOW UNTIL THEN, WE STAND READY TO SERVE AND PROTECT OUR CHILDREN TOGETHER.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MR. MORGAN. TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION, WHERE YOU GUYS OPERATE.

ARE YOU A LOCAL TO TARRANT COUNTY OR HOW DO YOU GUYS WORK? YEAH. SO THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTERS ARE A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, BUT THE CAC TEXAS, WHICH IS CHILD ADVOCACY CENTERS OF TEXAS IS STATE

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WE HAVE THREE LOCATIONS, ONE WHICH WE HAVE TWO ACTUALLY BEING RENOVATED RIGHT NOW AND BEING BUILT, ONE IN ARLINGTON, ONE IN HURST.

BUT OUR MAIN OFFICE RIGHT NOW IS IN FORT WORTH, BUT WE COVER ALL OF TARRANT COUNTY, 36 JURISDICTIONS WORKING WITH COMMISSIONERS COURT, WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY PROTECTIVE SERVICES.

THEY'RE HOUSED IN OUR BUILDING ALONG WITH LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS, TO ATTACK THAT.

WE ALSO PARTNER WITH COOK'S CHILDREN AS WELL FOR THOSE CASES AS WELL.

SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO COMBAT CHILD ABUSE WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNITY EDUCATION PREVENTION AND OF COURSE, HOLDING THOSE OFFENDERS ACCOUNTABLE. AND YOU GUYS WILL WORK WITH THE CHILDREN AND BE THE ADVOCATES FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES.

THE FAMILIES. YES. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, SOME OF THE CASES WHERE THE FAMILY MEMBERS ARE THE PERPETRATORS.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FAMILIES ARE STILL TAKEN CARE OF, THAT THERAPY IS PROVIDED, THAT, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY THAT THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF AND HOUSING AND ALL THE THINGS. WE ALSO DO BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS WHERE THE OFFENSE MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE HOME.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO RECONSTRUCT THAT ROOM OR THAT HOME TO LOOK DIFFERENT SO THAT A VICTIM ISN'T WALKING INTO THAT TRAUMATIC SPACE EVERY DAY.

YEAH, SO WE DO ALL THOSE THINGS.

WOW. SO I UNDERSTAND OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, ONE OF THE REALLY HORRIFIC CONSEQUENCES OF THE COVID SHUTDOWNS WAS ABUSE OF CHILDREN SPIKED.

ARE YOU STILL SEEING THAT ELEVATED LEVELS OR HAS IT DROPPED OFF? WHAT ARE YOU WHAT ARE YOU SEEING AS FAR AS.

SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS STAY AWAY FROM THOSE COMPARISONS JUST BECAUSE WHEN WE SEE AN OUTCRY, WE DON'T.

WE JUST WANT THE OUTCRIES TO HAPPEN.

RIGHT. BECAUSE SEEING A DECREASE IN OUTCRIES OR THINGS LIKE THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S GETTING BETTER.

THAT JUST MEANS THEY MAY BE MUZZLED.

OH, INTERESTING. YEAH. SO WHEN WE SAY CASES, SEE CASES, WE WE SERVE AROUND 2500 CASES A YEAR.

SO AND THAT'S ALL AROUND TARRANT COUNTY AND 2500 A YEAR IN TARRANT COUNTY ALONE.

? YES. WOW.

YES. THAT WE STAFFED.

BUT ALL THOSE ARE FELONY LEVEL CASES AS WELL.

I WAS UNBELIEVABLE.

SO IT'S A ISSUE.

BUT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK WE DO WITH OUR PARTNERS AND EVERYONE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A VERY EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING THINGS, PARTNERING WITH, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, CPI, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MAY SAY CPS, WHICH IS CHILD PROTECTIVE INVESTIGATIONS, WORKING WITH THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN UNIT AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO REALLY COMBAT THIS ISSUE.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

WELL, I'M GOING TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND THEN WE'LL COME DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE.

OKAY. SO WHEREAS EVERY CHILD DESERVES A NURTURING FAMILY AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT TO GROW INTO HEALTHY, PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS, CHILD ABUSE IS ONE OF OUR NATION'S MOST SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEMS AND THREATENS THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND. WHEREAS, IN TARRANT COUNTY, 5506 CHILDREN WERE CONFIRMED AS VICTIMS OF CHILD ABUSE OR NEGLECT IN 2022 ALONE, AND ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN PROVIDED TRAUMA INFORMED SERVICES TO 2434 CHILDREN IN 2022.

AND WHEREAS, FINDING SOLUTIONS TO PREVENT CHILD ABUSE IS A COMMUNITY RESPONSIBILITY AND DEPENDS ON THE INVOLVEMENT OF ALL CITIZENS.

AND WHEREAS, EFFECTIVE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION, INVESTIGATION AND TREATMENT PROGRAMS SUCCEED BECAUSE OF PARTNERSHIPS AMONG PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AGENCIES, SCHOOLS, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, MEDICAL SERVICES AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 2023 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO WORK TOGETHER TO HELP REDUCE CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE YEARS TO COME.

THANK YOU. SO WE'LL WE'LL COME DOWN.

WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE. THANKS FOR YOUR WORK.

OKAY. IT WAS A SOBERING START TO THE MEETING.

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WELL, WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A PROCLAMATION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DAY.

[4. Honors & Recognition: Proclamation for Administrative Professionals Day ]

SO I WILL ASK BORA, WHERE IS BORA TO COME ON DOWN AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT.

GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THE ON THE MONTH.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS IN RECOGNITION OF ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DAY.

THAT IS APRIL 26TH.

THIS IS A GROUP OF LEADERS THAT CONSISTENTLY PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN OUR ORGANIZATION'S OVERALL SUCCESS WITH THE SUPPORT AND WORK THAT THEY PROVIDE ON A DAILY BASIS.

THE WORK OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DO OFTEN VARIES, BUT INCLUDES MANAGING SCHEDULES AND CALENDARS, ORGANIZING AND MAINTAINING RECORDS, ANSWERING PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS, ASSISTING WITH FINANCIAL TASKS SUCH AS POS AND ADDITIONAL EXPENSES ASSISTING, OH, EXCUSE ME, MANAGING OFFICE SUPPLIES AND ALSO KEEPING OUR OFFICE RUNNING. THEY REALLY ARE THE BACKBONE TO IT ALL.

AND WE HAVE A FEW OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US TODAY.

AND ALONG IN THE PICTURE.

THAT'S NOT EVERYONE. WE DO HAVE A FEW THAT WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY.

I CAN'T HIGHLIGHT EVERY ONE, BUT I DO WANT TO PROVIDE A FEW EXAMPLES OF HOW OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS ALWAYS GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE GROW AWARDS THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED THROUGHOUT THEIR TIME HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITIONAL GROW AWARD THAT ISN'T ON THERE, BUT I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

OUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, CINDY LACASSE, SHE RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM A RESIDENT A FEW MONTHS AGO AND THIS WAS AN ELDERLY WOMAN AND SHE NEEDED HER DRIVER'S LICENSE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT SHE DIDN'T HAVE INTERNET ACCESS, AND SHE ALSO DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING THE FORM AND FILLING IT OUT ONLINE.

SO CINDY STAYED ON THE PHONE WITH HER, FILLED IT OUT FOR HER, AND THEN AFTER WORK, SHE PRINTED OUT A TEMPORARY COPY, DROVE TO HER HOUSE AND GAVE IT TO HER THE SAME DAY.

AND THAT IS ONE OF THE MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY EXAMPLES OF HOW OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS ALWAYS GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND HOW THEY DEMONSTRATE THEIR COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.

THANK YOU. WELL, WE LOVE YOU GUYS.

WE LOVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS.

THEY ARE SO ORGANIZED AND KEEP US ON TRACK.

AND IT JUST MEANS THE WORLD THAT THAT WE KNOW THAT THE DETAILS ARE ALWAYS TAKEN CARE OF.

SO. YES, SIR. COUNCIL, ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? NO, BUT I DO HAVE I DO HAVE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING. I WAS CLEANING OUT MY EMAIL SERVER LAST WEEK AND I FOUND EMAILS FROM 2014 WHEN I APPLIED TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND I FOUND AN EMAIL FROM BRANDI WHO 2014 WHEN SHE WAS WORKING IN WHAT'S NOW MISS SHELLY'S OFFICE, CORRECT.

AND IT WAS SO THOUGHTFUL.

WE TRADED NUMEROUS MESSAGES BECAUSE I WAS APPLYING FOR A BOARD THAT'S EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT WE HAVE AS STAFF OVERALL, BUT CERTAINLY AS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSION.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.

THANK YOU. YEAH, WELL SAID.

WELL, LET ME READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND WE'LL GET A PHOTO WITH ANYBODY WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE.

WHEREAS ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DAY IS CELEBRATED ANNUALLY THE LAST WEDNESDAY IN APRIL, RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS MAKE EACH YEAR TO OUR WORKFORCE. AND.

WHEREAS, ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS PLAY AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN COORDINATING THE OFFICE OPERATIONS OF BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

AND. WHEREAS, THE WORK OF ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS REQUIRES ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE IN COMMUNICATIONS, COMPUTER SOFTWARE, OFFICE TECHNOLOGY, PROJECT MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND OTHER VITAL OFFICE MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND. WHEREAS, ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS ARE CRITICAL TO THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY IN PROVIDING EXCELLENCE IN SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND. WHEREAS, ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS ARE OFTEN THE FIRST AND ONLY INTERACTION WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY, THESE ENCOUNTERS IN THE DIRECT SERVICES PROVIDED MAY LEAVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH LASTING IMPRESSIONS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM.

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 26TH, 2023, AS ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONALS DAY.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

PICTURE TIME.

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WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE ANNUAL SOUTHLAKE YOUTH ACTION COMMISSION UPDATE.

[5. Annual Southlake Youth Action Commission (SYAC) Update ]

I'M GUESSING THE WHY YOU GOT THAT.

THIS IS WHY YOU GOT THIS CROWD OF AWESOME YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE BACK.

ALL RIGHT, COME ON DOWN.

NOW, ALL Y'ALL GOTTA INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS SRISI DAS AND I AM THE VICE CHAIR OF SYAC.

AND BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS OF SYAC.

HELLO, MY NAME IS SANDRA KISHINTUNANI AND I AM A BOARD MEMBER ON SYAC.

I'M ALISON BEDWELL AND I'M THE SECRETARY.

I'M ANTHONY THOMAS.

I'M A MEMBER.

SORRY. I'M SOFIA BOYKO.

I'M ANIKA RAO, AND I'M ALSO AN ALTERNATE.

I'M WILLIAM SINGH. AND I'M ALSO AN ALTERNATE.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD TO MEET EVERYBODY.

GOOD EVENING. OKAY.

SO BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR YEAR'S INITIATIVES.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL START WITH WHAT ACTUALLY IS SOUTHLAKE YOUTH ACTION COMMISSION.

SO SYAC IS A YOUTH LED COMMISSION IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE THAT USES STUDENT PERSPECTIVES TO ADDRESS AND IMPROVE IMPORTANT ISSUES AND EVENTS OF OUR CITY.

THIS YEAR, SPECIFICALLY, WE FOCUS ON CREATING A MARKETING PLAN WITH THE SOUTHLAKE ART SHOW IN THE ART COUNCIL IN SOUTHLAKE, WE ADOPTED A STREET AND HELPED CLEAN IT UP EVERY WEEKEND.

WE ORGANIZED AN INTERN DAY AT THE END OF OUR YEAR TO INTERN WITH OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND WE ALSO SENT A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE YOUTH ACTION COMMISSION SUMMIT.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL NOW TALK ABOUT OUR ANNUAL PROJECT.

SO EVERY YEAR SYAC HAS AN ANNUAL PROJECT THAT WE FOCUS ON AND CENTER ALL OF OUR ACTIVITIES AROUND.

AND THIS YEAR SPECIFICALLY, WE PARTNERED WITH THE SOUTHLAKE ARTS COUNCIL TO CREATE A MARKETING PLAN FOR THE SOUTHLAKE PRESENTS ART SHOW AND COMPETITION.

SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT SAYAK DID WAS WE CREATED A MULTIFACETED PLAN THAT INCLUDED SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, DIGITAL SIGNS, PRINT SIGNS, AND ALSO MY SOUTHLAKE NEWS PRESS RELEASES.

AND IN JANUARY, TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE INITIATIVES WE TAKE IN THE WHOLE YEAR, WE HELD A JOINT MEETING WITH THE SOUTHLAKE ART COUNCIL TO PITCH OUR MARKETING PLAN AND THEN EVENTUALLY ALSO IMPLEMENTED THE PLAN AT THE END OF FEBRUARY.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAND THE MIC ON TO MY BOARD MEMBER, SAMIKSHA DANI, WHO WILL TALK ABOUT OUR ADOPTED STREET.

HELLO AND GOOD EVENING.

LAST YEAR, OUR TWO YEAR CONTRACT ON SHADY OAKS DRIVE ENDED FOR OUR ADOPT A STREET PROGRAM.

AND THIS YEAR WE RENEWED IT FOR ANOTHER TWO YEAR PLAN.

SO FAR WE'VE CLEANED UP THREE TIMES AND I HAVE HAD SO MUCH FUN DOING IT BECAUSE IT'S GREAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE IT A REALLY CLEAN PLACE FOR OUR CITIZENS TO LIVE IN.

SO NOW I'M GOING TO PRESENT ALLISON BEDWELL TALKING ABOUT INTERN DAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

HELLO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR, ON APRIL 11TH, WE HAD A INTERN DAY WHERE SYAC MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT THE ROLES OF DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE MUNICIPAL COURT, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BOB JONES NATURE CENTER, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, THE POLICE STATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS HELPED US SEE WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ON A GRANDER SCALE.

AND IT ALSO ALLOWED MANY OF THE MEMBERS TO THINK ABOUT PURSUING CAREERS, POSSIBLY IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, OR AT LEAST LOOKING FOR AN INTERNSHIP LATER IN THEIR FUTURE.

SO I WILL BE PASSING IT OFF TO KAHNA TO TALK ABOUT OUR SUMMIT THIS YEAR.

HELLO, MY NAME IS KAHNA JAIN AND I WAS THIS YEAR'S REPRESENTATIVE TO THE YOUTH ACTION COMMISSION CONFERENCE IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

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I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND MANY CONFERENCES, INCLUDING TOPICS ON SOCIAL MEDIA OUTREACH INITIATIVE. HOW TO TAKE INITIATIVE AND.

SORRY. TAKE YOUR TIME.

I LEARNED MANY THINGS LIKE HOW TO BE PROFESSIONAL INITIATIVE, OUTREACH, SOCIAL MEDIA OUTREACH, AND I AM THANKFUL TO MS. LOPEZ FOR HAVING ME ATTEND.

THANK YOU. EXCELLENT.

LOOKS WELL ATTENDED.

YEAH. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT AND GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS NOW.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS SORT OF THING IS LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, YOU GET OUT OF IT WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT.

AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO IT.

SO I HOPE IT WAS WORTH IT.

DID YOU DID YOU FEEL LIKE YOU GOT A LOT OUT OF THIS? YEAH, OF COURSE.

BECAUSE OF MS. LOPEZ AND MS. VICKI, WE'VE HAD LIKE A REALLY FRUITFUL YEAR, AND WE'VE LIKE, WE'VE ALLOWED OURSELVES TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT CAREER PATHS, AND WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES ON US, SORRY. AND OVERALL, IT'S BEEN A REALLY FUN YEAR FOR ALL OF US AND WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO LIKE PURSUE SOMETHING IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR JOIN PSYCH AGAIN NEXT YEAR. GOOD.

GREAT. CAN YOU CAN YOU DO IT FOR TWO YEARS SO YOU CAN GO? YOU CAN REAPPLY? WELL, I HOPE YOU ALL DO.

THIS IS GREAT. AND YOU'RE HONESTLY LEARNING FROM SOME OF THE VERY BEST IN THE BUSINESS.

THE STAFF AT THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, WE HAVE AN EMBARRASSMENT OF RICHES AS FAR AS THE TALENT ON OUR ON OUR ROSTER.

SO YOU GUYS REALLY ARE LEARNING.

BUT THEY NEED YOUR HELP.

THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IMPART THE WISDOM ON THE NEXT GENERATION.

AND THAT'S PART OF THIS. SO THANK YOU GUYS VERY THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

BEING ON OUR LIAISON FOR ARTS COUNCIL AND BEING A PART OF THAT JOINT MEETING.

MY BIGGEST TAKEAWAY IS THAT I WANTED TO HIRE ALL OF THEM TO DO MARKETING FOR ME.

THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB.

THEY'RE ALL BRILLIANT, WELL-SPOKEN AND JUST SUCH AS YOU SAID, GREAT REPRESENTATIVES OF SOUTHLAKE AND OUR FUTURE.

I THINK SO. THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE.

AND WE'LL HOPE TO SEE YOU NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

GREAT JOB. OKAY.

[6. Discuss all items on tonight's agenda. No action will be taken and each item will be considered during the Regular Session. ]

SO. OUR CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT CONSISTS OF ITEM FOUR, A APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 4TH, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ITEM 4B APPROVED CONTRACT AWARDS FOR DISASTER DEBRIS MONITORING SERVICES FOR TETRA TECH INC PRIMARY AWARD AND DEBRIS TECH LLC SECONDARY AWARD.

AND ITEM 4C EXCUSE THE ABSENCE--OH, OH.

I NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE. I DON'T KNOW.

EXCUSE THE ABSENCE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN DANIEL KUBIAK FROM THE REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 20TH, 2023.

DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE? DO WE NEED A PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE? WE NEED TO MOVE THAT TO REGULAR AGENDA.

JUST TO DISCUSS IT JUST A LITTLE BIT.

WE'LL LEAVE IT ON CONSENT.

YEAH, THAT'S JUST FUNNY BECAUSE WE KNOW HE'S WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW.

EXACTLY. COUNCIL, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS WANT TO MOVE TO CONSENT? YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE CONSIDER MOVING FROM OUR REGULAR AGENDA TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVING ITEMS 7A AND 7B.

7A IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 1271.

THE FIRST READING APPOINTING LINDSAY KINSEY AS THE AS AN ASSOCIATE JUDGE OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

AND ITEM 7B IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 1272.

FIRST READING APPOINTING KARA CARRERAS AS AN ASSOCIATE JUDGE OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM MS. KINSEY AND MS. CARRERAS, IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND COMING DOWN.

AND YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO STAY PAST EXECUTIVE SESSION IF YOU JUST WANT TO HANG OUT.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

SO, MS. KINSEY, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN FULFILLING THESE DUTIES FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, I BELIEVE.

YES, SIR. MISS CARRERAS, YOU'VE BEEN A LONG TIME CITY VOLUNTEER, SO WE THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING WILLING TO STEP UP INTO THIS ROLE AND MAYBE JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELVES AND AND KIND OF WHAT YOU HOPE TO BRING TO THE POSITION.

SURE. MY NAME IS LINDSAY KINSEY.

I AM THE GENERAL COUNSEL OVER AT THE GATE HOUSE IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.

AND I ALSO RUN THEIR LEGAL PROGRAM SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHICH HELPS APPROXIMATELY 95 FAMILIES A YEAR IN HELPING THOSE MOTHERS BECOME PERMANENTLY SELF-SUFFICIENT AS A SIDE JOB.

I GET TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, WHICH HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

I'VE GOTTEN TO REALLY GET TO WORK WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS.

AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS THAT I FEEL THAT IS SO IMPORTANT IS THAT THE MUNICIPAL COURT PROVIDES THE FACE FOR SO

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SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SHOW THEM HOW HOW THAT BRANCH IS ABLE TO FUNCTION IN THEIR FAVOR AND FOR THE CITY.

AND SO IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO LEARN OUR CITY AND ALSO GET TO TO SERVE OUR CONSTITUENTS.

AWESOME. THANK YOU, MISS CURTIS.

THANK YOU.

I AM KARA CARRERAS.

I'M A VOLUNTEER HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

I'M ON TWO DIFFERENT BOARDS.

I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

I AM A BOARD CERTIFIED CRIMINAL LAW SPECIALIST.

I'M A LAWYER.

I HAVE BEEN IN PRIVATE PRACTICE FOR A LONG TIME.

I WILL BE LICENSED FOR 21 YEARS IN JUNE.

SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA.

I WAS A PROSECUTOR AND I ACTUALLY WHEN I WAS INITIALLY A PROSECUTOR, I WORKED IN THE JP COURT AND I PROSECUTED TICKETS.

THAT WAS KIND OF PART OF MY DUTIES.

MANY 21 YEARS AGO WHEN I STARTED AND I SPECIALIZE IN CRIMINAL LAW, MY SPECIALTY IS CRIMINAL DEFENSE.

AND I DO MOSTLY FEDERAL DEFENSE WORK.

AND I'M EXCITED TO JOIN THE TEAM AND LEARN FROM LINDSAY AND JUDGE MONTGOMERY AND.

WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.

WELL, WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU BOTH.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE.

YEAH, I'LL SAY I GET THE HONOR OF BEING ON THE COMMITTEE THAT GOT TO INTERVIEW EVERYBODY.

AND I WILL SAY WE WERE THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED WITH BOTH OF Y'ALL, OBVIOUSLY, AND SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE YOU GUYS AS PART OF THIS.

BUT ALSO JUST THE QUALITY OF FOLKS THAT CAME BEFORE US, PERIOD.

WE REALLY KIND OF, LIKE YOU SAID, THE STAFF WE'VE GOT THE BEST OF THE BEST.

EVEN OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE SOME OF THE BEST OF THE BEST.

AND SOME OF THE APPLICANTS FOR THIS WERE REALLY, REALLY IMPRESSIVE.

AND SO IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU GUYS.

AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE A PART OF THIS.

AND I WAS SUPER IMPRESSED WITH EVERYONE THAT CAME TO BE A PART OF THAT.

YEAH, NOT TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT I ALSO SERVED ON THAT COMMITTEE AND CONDUCTED THE INTERVIEWS.

AND I THINK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU WERE FIRST AND YOU WERE SECOND.

AND RANDY AND I LOOKED AT EACH OTHER.

WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE IN TROUBLE, RIGHT? LIKE, THEY WERE ALL SO GREAT.

BUT YOU ALL ARE JUST FANTASTIC.

WE ARE HONORED TO EXTEND THIS POSITION TO YOU.

I THINK YOU WILL SERVE THE CITY CITY OF SOUTHLAKE VERY WELL.

SO CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR.

FOR BEING WILLING TO. TO SERVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M CERTAINLY HONORED.

SO SO AM I.

THANK YOU. MS. KINSEY, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR WORK, BUT I'VE HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT IT.

LUCKILY, I'VE NEVER HAD THE TO EXPERIENCE IT PERSONALLY.

NEVER SAY NEVER, RONELL.

WELL, I DO HAVE A DAUGHTER, ONE THAT'S GOING TO COLLEGE AND ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE HERE FOR A WHILE.

BUT ANYWAY, I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW MS. CARRERSD FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND SHE'S A WONDERFUL TEAMMATE ON THE METRO PORT TEEN COURT BOARD WITH ME AND SO IT'S, I WOULD SAY TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, WE HAVE AN EMBARRASSMENT OF RICHES. THIS IS A TOWN WHERE YOU JUST BUMP INTO THE COOLEST PEOPLE.

AND SHE'S, YOU KNOW, CHARACTERIZED AS THAT.

SO THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

SO MUCH. LOVE IT.

WELL, WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO SERVE WITH YOU.

GUYS, WE'RE MOVING YOUR APPOINTMENTS TO CONSENT, WHICH IS A GOOD SIGN, YOU KNOW, GOING YOUR WAY SO YOU CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 7/2.

BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH US.

THANK YOU. LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL MOVE SEVEN A AND SEVEN B TO CONSENT AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THEN I WILL CALL THE REGULAR PORTION OF THE MEETING TO ORDER.

[1. Call to order. ]

[2.A. Executive Session]

AND WE SHOULD BE BACK AROUND 7 P.M.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO WE'VE WRAPPED UP EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE REGULAR SESSION BACK TO ORDER.

IS THERE ANY ACTION NEEDED OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT OF ORDER SLIGHTLY AND START WITH A COUPLE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT CASES.

[6.A. ZA23-0003, Development Plan & Site Plan for Kirkwood East, located on a property described as Lot 4R1, Block 1, Sabre Group Campus Addition, and located at 1400 W. Kirkwood Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "NRPUD" Non-Residential Planned Unit Development. SPIN Neighborhood #1. (Tabled from the April 4, 2023, City Council meeting.) PUBLIC HEARING ]

AND IF DIRECTOR KILLOUGH IS OUT HERE, I'LL CALL DIRECTOR KILLOUGH.

I THINK I BEAT DIRECTOR KILLOUGH OUT HERE.

SORRY, DENNIS.

SORRY. PRESS PAUSE.

JUST ONE SECOND.

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UM. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN CLOSE AN ITEM BEFORE I REOPEN IT.

THIS IS A NOVEL SITUATION.

WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. BEFORE WE HEAR FROM DENNIS, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE APPLICANTS UP.

SINCE THIS IS A SECOND READING.

DO WE HAVE? MR. WILKINSON, YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. COME ON UP.

WHY DON'T YOU START US OFF BY GIVING US A PRESENTATION AND JUST KIND OF LAYING IT OUT AND WHEN WHEN WE'VE SECURED OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING THAT I HAVE OUTRUN WHO HAVE I HAVE OUTRUN, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THEM.

SO MY NAME IS TERRY WILKINSON, 2110 CEDAR ELM TERRACE, WESTLAKE, TEXAS.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, TAKE US THROUGH YOUR PROJECT, TERRY.

WELL, WE'VE GOT A SLIDESHOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET TO IT.

PILAR, WILL YOU GIVE US SOME HELP HERE? WE'RE JUST A MESS. THIS IS WHAT I GET FOR GOING TOO FAST.

OOPS.

IS THAT THE ONE, TERRY? DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR PRESENTATION IS.

YEAH, THAT WAS GOOD.

THAT WAS IT. OKAY.

THAT WAS A VERY EFFICIENT PRESENTATION.

THAT WAS A GREAT. OKAY.

TERRY, HELP US OUT HERE, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE SABER CAMPUS AND HAS THEIR ZONING.

AND SO WE'VE COME AND PURCHASED THE 13 ACRES, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING JUST THE PORTION FROM THERE IS A DRIVE THAT GOES FROM KIRKWOOD OVER TO WHITECHAPEL.

WE WILL JUST BE DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY.

TERRY, WE'VE SPOTTED OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

CAN WE ASK YOU TO HAVE A SEAT BRIEFLY AND CALL DIRECTOR KILLOUGH ON UP? HE'S PROBABLY BEEN DOING THIS LONGER THAN ME.

DENNIS, I'M SORRY I OUTRAN YOU, SIR.

I APOLOGIZE. NO, NO, NO, NO.

IT'S ENTIRELY MY FAULT.

WELL, MR. WILKINSON HAS ALREADY KICKED STARTED THIS, AND I DON'T THINK HE'S AFTER YOUR JOB, BUT HE'S DOING A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB DOWN THERE.

BUT WHY DON'T YOU JUST TAKE IT AWAY AND RUN US THROUGH THE PROJECT REAL QUICK? THANK YOU. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SITE PLAN FOR PROPERTY THAT IS PART OF THE SABER CAMPUS ZONING BOUNDARY IS SHOWN HIGHLIGHTED HERE.

LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THIS IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL AND ZONING, AS I MENTIONED, IS NON RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS PART OF THE SABER CAMPUS.

THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN INCLUDES EIGHT BUILDING PAD SITES, TWO OF WHICH INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO COMPLY WITH A SITE PLAN THAT WOULD BE BUILDING EIGHT LOCATED HERE ON THE NORTH WEST PORTION OF THE SITE AND BUILDING FIVE LOCATED ON THE EASTERN MIDDLE PORTION OF THE SITE.

IN TOTAL, BUILDING PADS ARE JUST UNDER 37,000FT².

AND I APOLOGIZE.

I THINK YOUR REPORTS SAY 50,000FT².

FOLLOWING. FOLLOWING P&Z'S REVIEW OF THIS, THEY MOVED SOME DRIVEWAYS AROUND AND THAT'S WHY THEY TABLED THIS AT YOUR LAST MEETING.

THEY MOVED TO DRIVEWAY FROM THIS LOCATION AND ADDED THESE TWO FOR, I GUESS IN THEIR CASE, BETTER FLOW THROUGH OF HOW THEY WANTED THE SITE TO WORK. THIS CREATED A SPACING VARIANCE WHICH IS PART OF THE VARIANCE IS LISTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

ALSO A CHANGE IN THIS.

THEY SHIFTED THIS DRIVEWAY HERE INTO WHAT IS UNDER THE ZONING PRESERVED AS A NATURAL AREA.

THE ZONING DOES ALLOW APPROVAL OF IMPROVEMENTS AND EVEN BUILDINGS IN THIS AREA, IF APPROVED AS PART OF A SITE PLAN BY CITY COUNCIL.

AND PART OF THEIR REASONING FOR THAT IS MUCH OF THIS AREA HAS BEEN CLEARED FOR THE OVERHEAD TRANSMISSION LINES THAT BASICALLY RUN THROUGH THIS ALIGNMENT OF THE PROPERTY.

THESE ARE THE VARIANCES REQUESTED, STACKING DEPTH ON THESE DRIVEWAYS, ASKING FOR WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE 30 FOOT STACKING DEPTH OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE WHERE 75FT IS REQUIRED.

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THIS IS LOT FIVE.

AND ELEVATIONS FOR THAT SITE PLAN.

THESE ARE A MIX OF STONE AND STUCCO AND METAL.

THESE ARE THE DETAILED ELEVATIONS FOR THE LOT FIVE BUILDING.

AND FOR LOT EIGHT SITE PLAN.

AND ELEVATIONS FOR THAT SIMILAR MATERIALS, SOME BRICK, STONE FACED BLOCK AND METAL. OR EXCUSE ME, STUCCO.

UH, THIS IS THE TREE PRESERVATION ON THE PROPERTY.

THEY ARE ROUGHLY 34, A LITTLE OVER 33% EXISTING COVER AND PROPOSING TO PRESERVE 54% OF THAT.

AND DRAINAGE AND GRADING PLAN.

UTILITY PLAN.

AND A VIEW LOOKING NORTH WEST AT THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 300 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL GRANTING THE VARIANCES THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THEM.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT MR. WILKINSON HADN'T ALREADY ADDRESSED.

OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT TWO VARIANCES RELATED TO DRIVEWAY STACKING AND ONE RELATED TO ENCROACHMENT ON A 50 FOOT KIND OF GREEN SPACE BUFFER.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT ENCROACHMENT IS REALLY JUST LIKE FLATWORK, RIGHT? IT'S CONCRETE. THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. OKAY.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

I KNOW THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE.

WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO COME UP AND ADD TO THAT PRESENTATION? COME ON DOWN, SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

MARTIN SCHILLING, 2665 NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD.

SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS. 76092.

AS YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN BREVITY.

SO THEY'VE DONE A NICE JOB.

WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

YOU GOT IT. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? I MEAN, IT LOOKS GOOD. YOU GUYS, IT'S PRETTY CLEAN.

A COUPLE LITTLE ITEMS TO CLEAN UP WITH SOME VARIANCES.

WHEN DO YOU PLAN ON BREAKING GROUND? WE'VE RELEASED THE ENGINEER TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.

I WOULD SAY PROBABLY CAN SUBMIT TO THE CITY IN 30 TO 45 DAYS.

VERY GOOD. SO THAT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 30 DAYS.

AND THEN SO WE'RE PROBABLY THREE MONTHS OUT.

WE HOPE NO MORE NOW, MAYBE 18 MONTHS BEFORE THE BUILDINGS ARE UP AND RUNNING.

WELL, YOU'LL PROBABLY BE SIX, SEVEN MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, MAYBE LESS, AND THEN GET THE BUILDING PERMITS 150 DAYS TO BUILD THE BUILDINGS.

VERY GOOD. OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR. THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. WELL, ITEM SIX EIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO COMMENT OR SPEAK.

SEEING NONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COUNCIL ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS.

OH, I'M SORRY. COME ON DOWN.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 6A? YOU'RE STILL GOING BACK. MA'AM, YOU GOT TO COME ON DOWN TO THE MIKE IF YOU WOULD.

YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON 6A? NO. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 6A.

AND, COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

YES, MAYOR. COUNCIL. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

ITEM SIX A OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ZA23-0003 DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SITE PLAN FOR KIRKWOOD EAST LOCATED ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 4R1 BLOCK ONE SABER GROUP CAMPUS EDITION AND LOCATED AT 1400 WEST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED APRIL 18TH, 2023, AND THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER THREE, DATED APRIL 18TH, 2023, AND NOTING THAT WE ARE

[00:40:02]

ALSO, WE'RE ALLOWING THE MINIMUM DRIVEWAY SEPARATION OF APPROXIMATELY 150FT BETWEEN ONE PAIR OF DRIVEWAYS AND 215FT BETWEEN A SECOND PAIR, AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, WHERE A MINIMUM OF 250FT OF SEPARATION IS TYPICALLY REQUIRED.

AND THEN FINALLY, THAT WE ARE APPROVING CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE 50 FOOT NATURAL AREA AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.

OK, WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OKAY. 6A PASSES 7-0.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, GUYS.

SO GIVEN THE TIME, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO ITEM THREE AT THIS POINT, WHICH IS MAYOR'S REPORT.

[3.A. Mayor's Report ]

SO IT IS A FACT OF MODERN AMERICAN LIFE THAT WE LIVE WITH A WHOLE LOT OF GOVERNMENT, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT, COUNTY SCHOOLS AND CITY GOVERNMENTS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PUBLIC ENTITIES WITH REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER OUR LIVES AND WITH TAXATION AUTHORITY TOO.

AND IT'S EASY TO LOOK AT HOW MOST OF THEM DO THEIR WORK AND GET VERY JADED.

INCOMPETENCE, HIGH TAXES, INEFFICIENCIES, POLITICAL DRAMA ALL SEEM TO HAVE BECOME NOT ONLY THE NORM, BUT THE EXPECTATION.

BUT BUT NOT EVERY GOVERNMENT SINKS TO THESE LOW EXPECTATIONS SOMETIMES.

AND I WOULD SAY RARE INSTANCES, THE GOVERNMENT IN OUR LIVES ACTUALLY EXCEEDS OUR EXPECTATIONS WITH ITS PERFORMANCE AND TRANSPARENCY AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT I COULD POINT TO A GOVERNMENT THAT EXCEEDS EXPECTATIONS MORE OFTEN THAN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

I WOULD ASK EVERYONE LISTENING IN THE AUDIENCE AND ON TV TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER WHAT OTHER GOVERNMENT IN YOUR LIFE OPERATES, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

WHAT OTHER GOVERNMENT IN YOUR LIFE HAS CUT YOUR TAXES? ACTUALLY CUT YOUR TAXES YEAR AFTER YEAR? WHAT OTHER GOVERNMENT IN YOUR LIFE HAS A TRIPLE A BOND RATING WITH ALL THREE MAJOR RATING AGENCIES WHILE PAYING CASH FOR ALMOST ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS AND PAYING DOWN DEBT TO PUT US ON A GLIDE PATH TOWARDS BEING ALMOST DEBT FREE IN TEN YEARS.

WHAT OTHER GOVERNMENT IN YOUR LIFE RUNS AN ACTUAL BUDGET SURPLUS YEAR AFTER YEAR? WHAT OTHER GOVERNMENT IN YOUR LIFE PASSES ITS ANNUAL FINANCIAL AUDIT WITH THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE GRADES YEAR AFTER YEAR? THE REALITY IS THERE IS NO OTHER GOVERNMENT IN YOUR LIFE THAT CAN TRUTHFULLY SAY ALL OF THESE THINGS OTHER THAN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

AND BECAUSE WE DO THIS WORK EVERY DAY, WE TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED.

SOMETIMES, I THINK.

AND THE REALITY IS THAT CITY OF SOUTHLAKE DELIVERS ON ITS PROMISES TO YOU, THE CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS YEAR AFTER YEAR.

AND IT'S NOT BY ACCIDENT OR BY SURPRISE.

NOW, WE AREN'T PERFECT AND WE WOULD NEVER CLAIM THAT WE ARE.

BUT I NEVER WANT TO MISS AN OPPORTUNITY AS MAYOR TO BRAG ON THE SUCCESSES OF THIS TEAM AT THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE FROM THE CITY OF MANAGER TO EVERY LEVEL OF STAFF TO CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYONE IN BETWEEN, BECAUSE WE CAN AND WE SHOULD EXPECT MORE OF OUR GOVERNMENT AT EVERY LEVEL.

IT'S WHAT WE DESERVE AS TAXPAYERS AND CITIZENS, AND IT'S WHAT WE HERE IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE ALWAYS HOPE TO LIVE UP TO AND EXCEED.

WE HOPE THOSE EXPECTATIONS.

SO THAT'S THE MAYOR'S REPORT FOR TONIGHT.

AND, WELL, PART ONE AND PART TWO.

I WANT TO KICK IT OVER TO COUNCILWOMAN KATHY TALLEY TO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ART IN THE SQUARE COMING UP.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YEAH, VERY EXCITED.

I THINK WE'VE GOT A GRAPHIC COMING.

THESE ARE THREE OF OUR CLEARCHANNEL DIGITAL ADS.

SO HOPEFULLY IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAYS AND BYWAYS, YOU'LL SEE ONE OF THESE BECAUSE WE'RE COMING UP IN LESS THAN TWO WEEKS, WEEK FROM FRIDAY, WE KICK IT OFF.

SO THESE THESE KIND OF SPEAK TO DIFFERENT PIECES OF THE FESTIVAL AT THE TOP.

YOU'LL SEE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR HEADLINER.

HE'S FROM NASHVILLE, CANAAN SMITH.

HE'S ACTUALLY HAD A HIT CALLED LOVE YOU LIKE THAT.

WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT HIM ON THE STAGE SATURDAY NIGHT.

WE HAVE TWO STAGES, ONE AT THE GAZEBO OR RUSTON PAVILION.

THAT ONE IS MORE LOCAL ACTS, JAZZ SCHOOL PERFORMERS AND SUCH.

THE SOUTHLAKE COMMUNITY BAND WILL BE THERE AND THEN OUR MAIN STAGE HAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF MUSIC, POP, ROCK, COUNTRY AND SO FORTH. THE SECOND, THE MIDDLE ONE HAS A PICTURE OF OUR FEATURED ARTIST FOR THIS YEAR THAT'S ON OUR T SHIRTS.

NIKKI GULLEY AND WE'RE CONSISTENTLY VERY PROUD.

NATIONALLY RANKED IN THE TOP TEN YEAR OVER YEAR.

WE'VE BEEN NUMBER ONE.

REALLY PROUD OF THAT. OUR ARTIST COMMITTEE DOES A FANTASTIC JOB.

WE AVERAGE ABOUT 40% NEW ARTISTS EVERY YEAR.

SO WE DO TRY TO BRING IN NEW THINGS EVERY YEAR FOR PEOPLE.

YOU'LL SEE EVERY KIND OF ART MEDIUM YOU CAN THINK OF.

SO THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY.

AND THEN THE FINAL SLIDE SPEAKS TO OUR CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES.

WE HAVE KIDS CORNER, WHICH HAS FACE PAINTING AND CRAFTS FOR THE YOUNGER ONES.

[00:45:03]

AND THEN NEW THIS YEAR WE HAVE SOME CARNIVAL GAMES, WE HAVE A NINE HOLE PUTT PUTT COURSE.

SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

SO WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR PRETTY MUCH KIDS OF ALL AGES, YOUNGER KIDS AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO CASHLESS THIS YEAR, WHICH IS NEW.

THE CHAMBER IN OCTOBERFEST TRIED IT LAST FALL AND IT MET WITH REALLY GOOD SUCCESS.

SO DON'T BRING YOUR CASH.

JUST BRING YOUR CREDIT CARDS, DEBIT CARDS.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO TO TRY THAT OUT AND PROVIDE IT.

AND THEN AS A WRAP UP, JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT AND WE ARE 100% FUNDRAISING FESTIVAL.

WE HAVE NO PAID STAFF.

WE GIVE ALL OF OUR NET PROCEEDS TO THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE 28 BENEFICIARIES AND WE'RE IT'S WE'RE SO BLESSED TO HAVE SO MANY APPLY.

WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO 28 FOR THIS YEAR.

AND THEY BENEFIT WOMEN, CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN NORTHEAST TARRANT COUNTY.

AND JUST JUST A LITTLE SNIPPET OF THAT OF THOSE 28 THIS YEAR.

AMY'S WISH WITH WINGS APEX ARTS LEAGUE METROPARK MEALS ON WHEELS, CALL-A-RIDE, SOUTHLAKE, SPECIAL OLYMPICS, SHARKS AND SO ON.

AND OF COURSE, GRACE AND MANY OTHER CHARITIES.

SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED.

AGAIN, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN SUPPORT THESE CHARITIES IS IF IF YOU ALL COME OUT AND HAVE HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND HAVING SOME BEER, WINE, WATER, FOOD, DRINK ALL OF IT, HAVE YOU BRING YOUR KIDS? WE'VE GOT SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY.

SO. YEP.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE B CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

[3.B. City Manager's Report ]

HE'S GOING TO TELL YOU A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

WHAT'S GOING ON THIS SPRING.

MR. CORNELIUS? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS NICK CORNELIUS AND I'M THE MANAGEMENT ASSISTANT FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

AND TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW GREAT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND IN TRUE SOUTHLAKE FASHION.

I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT OF GREEN, A LITTLE BIT OF GOLD AND SOME SERVANT LEADERS THAT HAVE BEEN MAKING A FANTASTIC IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT FIRST UP, I'D LIKE TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL OF OUR CITIZENS ABOUT OUR EYE ON WATER RESOURCE.

THIS IS A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE THAT ALLOWS USERS TO TRACK THEIR HOURLY WATER CONSUMPTION, RECEIVE USAGE ALERTS, SET UP POTENTIAL LEAK ALERTS, AND IT'S AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE, ANYWHERE VIA THE WEB OR THE APP.

NOW, THE GREEN THAT I HAD MENTIONED IS THAT NICE, THICK GREEN LAWN THAT EVERYONE LOVES TO HAVE DURING THE SUMMER.

THIS EYE ON WATER APP IS GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE FOR ANYONE YOU KNOW WHO'S WATERING THEIR LAWN.

IT ALLOWS THEM TO TRACK HOW MUCH WATER WAS USED AND TO ANTICIPATE THEIR BILL.

SO THERE AREN'T ANY SURPRISES WHEN IT COMES AT THE START OF EACH MONTH.

WITH SUMMER COMING UP, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO ON VACATION.

AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THINKING ABOUT MY BILLS WHILE I'M GONE, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT EYE ON WATER THAT ARE USEFUL IN THIS INSTANCE.

THE FIRST ONE BEING THAT YOU CAN SET LEAK ALERTS SO THAT IN CASE THERE IS A LEAK THAT IS SPRUNG WHILE YOU'RE GONE, YOU CAN RECEIVE NOTIFICATION AUTOMATICALLY.

AND. HAVE SOMEONE TEND TO IT SO YOU DON'T COME BACK TO TO A FLOODED HOUSE.

YOU CAN ALSO SET UP AUTOMATIC PAYMENTS THROUGH ON WATER.

THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOUR BILL AT ALL WHILE YOU'RE GONE AND SITTING ON THE BEACH.

AND LASTLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, EYE ON WATER IS A FANTASTIC RESOURCE FOR TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE IT ALLOWS CITIZENS TO CORROBORATE, NOT TO CORROBORATE, TO VIEW AND CONFIRM THE USAGE THAT WE BILL AND TO SEE EXACTLY THAT.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE OUR WORD FOR IT THAT IT'S THERE AND IT PROMOTES ACCOUNTABILITY.

THE SERVANT LEADERS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.

WE'VE RECENTLY RECENTLY HIGHLIGHTED ON APRIL 3RD, MONDAY, THE THREE TEENS PICTURED IN THIS PHOTO.

WE'VE GOT ARIA, MADISON AND RIA, AND THEY'RE TEEN ATTORNEYS WHO SERVED OVER 166 HOURS IN TOTAL WITH THE TEEN COURT PROGRAM.

AND FOR THEIR HARD WORK, THEY WERE AWARDED $3,000 TOTAL FOR A SCHOLARSHIP WITH MADISON TAKING HOME THE TEEN ATTORNEY OF THE YEAR AWARD.

HERE ARE OUR ADULT VOLUNTEERS.

WE'VE GOT GLEN BRADSHAW, PATTI BRADSHAW, AND LINDA LEIGH WALKER.

LET ME JUST PULL UP A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

GLEN SERVED AS THE COURT BAILIFF BEFORE RETIRING LAST YEAR TO JOIN HIS WIFE, PATTI, AND VOLUNTEERING WITH TEEN COURT.

PATTI RETIRED FROM TEACHING FOR 32 YEARS AND BEGAN SERVING AROUND TEN YEARS AGO AFTER HEARING ABOUT THE PROGRAM THROUGH GLEN.

LINDA HAS BEEN SERVING IN TEEN COURT FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, STARTING WITH HER DAUGHTER WHEN SHE WAS A PART OF THE PROGRAM.

EACH VOLUNTEER REGULARLY PARTICIPATES TO RUN A WEEKLY MASTER JURY ROOM BETWEEN THE HARD WORK OF OUR TEEN AND ADULT VOLUNTEERS.

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NOW MOVING ON TO THE FINANCE, WE RECENTLY RECEIVED THE GFOA TRIPLE CROWN, WHICH HIGHLIGHTS EXCELLENCE IN THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, THE POPULAR ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT AND THE BUDGET 2 IN 1 AWARD IS AN ACHIEVEMENT.

TO WIN ALL THREE IS A TESTAMENT TO THE SOUTH LAKE'S COMMITMENT TO ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.

AND THE GOAL THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IS THE GOLD FLEET AWARD WE RECEIVED BY THE DFW CLEAN CITIES.

WE ALSO RECEIVED THE AEP AWARD, WHICH IS THE ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE IN PROCUREMENT AWARD GIVEN BY THE AMERICAN PROCUREMENT INSTITUTE.

THE GOLD FLEET AWARD HIGHLIGHTS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO TO SUSTAINABILITY AND TO HAVING CLEAN INITIATIVES SUCH AS IDLING AND ALTERNATIVE FUELS.

AND THE AEP AWARD HIGHLIGHTS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO LEADERSHIP AND EXCELLENCE IN THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT.

AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE ADULT AND TEEN VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE MADE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE TEEN COURT PROGRAM.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I LIKE THAT GREEN. I LIKE THAT GOLD.

YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

YES, SIR. MISS YELVERTON, THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL MENTION IS THAT THE FINANCIAL REPORT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OUR CFO IS HERE AND SHE CAN ADDRESS THOSE.

WONDERFUL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS JACKSON? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

YES, MAYOR. COUNCIL. I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH C, ALSO NOTING THAT WE'RE ADDING AND APPROVING ITEMS SEVEN A AND SEVEN B FROM OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

WE A MOTION IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OKAY. THE CONSENT AGENDA PASSES.

SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC FORUM.

[5. Public Forum]

AS ALWAYS, WE RECOGNIZE OUR SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC FORUM FOR THREE MINUTES.

WHEN YOU COME UP AND START, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WHEN THE GREEN LIGHT COMES ON.

AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COMMENT CARDS.

THE FIRST IS SHAHNAZ TALUKDAR.

OH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.

I APOLOGIZE. I APOLOGIZE.

OKAY. NOT JUST YET.

SO FIRST SPEAKER, THEN TONIGHT IS MS..

COLLEEN GOLDSTEIN.

COME ON DOWN.

HELLO. I'M COLLEEN GOLDSTEIN, DIRECTOR.

GOT MY ADDRESS? YES, PLEASE.

708 BRYSON WAY SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

I WILL NOT USE NAMES, BUT THIS IS A RECENT QUOTE TWEET BY A LIBRARY BOARD MEMBER APPOINTED BY THIS CITY COUNCIL, ALSO FOLLOWED BY THIS CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THIS IS A QUOTE, TWEET.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT KNOW WHAT THAT IS, IT'S YOU RETWEET SOMEONE AND THEN YOU PUT YOUR COMMENT AT THE TOP.

AND THIS LIBRARY BOARD MEMBER TWEETED, TRUTH AND THE TRUTH THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT IS BY A PENNSYLVANIAN THAT TWEETED, RETWEET THIS TRANSGENDER IN 711 ATTACKS TO CUSTOMERS WITH AN AX.

THE ENTIRE COUNTRY NEEDS TO SEE THIS SO WE CAN FURTHER EXPOSE THE TRANSGENDER CULT FOR BEING THE VIOLENT MONSTERS THAT THEY ARE.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE TWEET THAT HE CALLS TRUTH.

UM, IT WAS FACT CHECKED BY REUTERS TODAY.

IT WAS, IN FACT, NOT HAPPENED IN THE UNITED STATES.

IT WAS A 2017 AX ATTACK BY A TRANSGENDER WOMAN IN SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA THAT HAS BEEN MISATTRIBUTED TO THE UNITED STATES.

IT IS MIS CAPTIONED.

IT DOES NOT SHOW A RECENT ATTACK IN THE UNITED STATES.

IT HAS BEEN VIEWED AS OF WHEN THIS CAME OUT 4.6 MILLION TIMES AND SINCE THIS COUNCIL DID APPOINT THIS PERSON AND FOLLOWS THIS PERSON AND IS FRIENDS WITH THIS PERSON, I WANT TO KNOW, DOES THIS TWEET REFLECT THE VIEWS OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE TOWARD ITS QUEER COMMUNITY? OUR SOUTHLAKE, LGBTQ FAMILIES, TAXPAYERS AND STUDENTS ACCEPTED AND PROTECTED? I THINK NOT.

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AND BELIEVE ME, I HAVE SCREENSHOTS OF ALL OF IT.

UM. WHERE'S MY TIME? OKAY. JUST AGAIN, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF ONE OF YOUR LOVED ONES, IF YOUR FAMILY MEMBER OR YOU WAS CALLED BY A BELOVED BOARD MEMBER, BELOVED BY THE COUNCIL, APPARENTLY VIOLENT MONSTERS THAT THEY ARE VIOLENT MONSTERS, THAT THEY ARE VIOLENT MONSTERS, THAT THEY ARE VIOLENT MONSTERS, THAT THEY ARE VIOLENT MONSTERS.

THAT THEY ARE VIOLENT MONSTERS.

THAT THEY ARE VIOLENT MONSTERS THAT THEY AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH TWO OF YOU AND I THOUGHT THIS WOULD GET BETTER, BUT IT DIDN'T.

VIOLENT MONSTERS THAT THEY ARE VIOLENT MONSTERS, THAT THEY ARE ENJOY IT.

THIS IS WHO YOU ARE.

UNLESS YOU SHOW US YOU'RE SOMETHING ELSE.

LEAVE US ALONE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TOM PALMER SHANE, SIR, IF YOU COULD COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

TOM PALMER SHANE 1735.

WEEPING WILL AWAY.

THIS IS REALLY FOR THE CITIZENS.

I'VE BEEN ENCOURAGED TO COME BACK.

I WAS HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IN FRONT OF THIS GROUP.

THE CITY INSPECTOR DESTROYED MY HOME.

I'M SORRY, SIR. IF YOU COULD ADDRESS COUNCIL AND NOT THE INSPECTOR.

YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO ME THE LAST TIME THE CITY INSPECTOR DESTROYED MY HOME TO $5,000 IN DAMAGE.

OKAY. I WENT THROUGH HOW WE KNOW THAT IT WAS DESTROYED.

I PUT.

SPOKE TO MISS SHARON JACKSON, THE CFO OR WHATEVER OF THE CITY.

AFTER A WEEK OF INVESTIGATION, SHE CALLED ME BACK AND SHE OFFERED $3,000.

A WEEK OF INVESTIGATION.

$3,000? I ASKED.

THE DAMAGE WAS OVER 5000.

WHY NOT 5000? SHE SAID THAT'S THE MAXIMUM THAT SHANA THE CITY MANAGER CAN APPROVE.

I SAID, WELL, WHAT IF I WANT TO GET THE FULL REIMBURSEMENT? AND SHE CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, YOU NEED TO GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY COUNCIL DENIED THAT CLAIM.

NEVER TOLD ME WHY OTHER THAN SOME LEGALESE.

OKAY. THERE WAS SOME SOME DISCUSSION THAT THE INSPECTOR NEVER DID DAMAGE THE WATER HEATER OR NEVER INSPECTED IT.

OKAY. WHICH IS COMPLETELY UNTRUE.

SO WHY A PERSON THAT HAS BEEN WORKING IN THE CITY FOR 30 YEARS OR WHATEVER THE CITY MANAGER HAS, AND HER LIEUTENANT, WHO HAS BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS, CAN APPROVE SOMETHING, OFFER ME $3,000.

THEY TALK TO THE MIKE WHITE, THE HEAD OF CITY INSPECTION.

THEY TALKED TO THE INSPECTOR AND THEY MAKE ME AN OFFER.

AND THEN A WEEK LATER, THIS GROUP DENIES THE OFFER.

AFTER I CAME UP HERE TWO WEEKS AGO, NOBODY IN THE CITY WILL EVEN ANSWER MY EMAILS OR MY PHONE CALLS.

OKAY. IS THAT WHAT A 20 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE CITY? HOW HE GETS TREATED? OKAY. IS THAT HOW IT HAPPENS? IS IT? DOES ANYBODY ON THIS BOARD HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIPS OR WORK WITH THE CITY INSPECTOR'S OFFICE? IT'S A QUESTION I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP? WHERE THEY NEED TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY INSPECTOR.

ANYBODY? I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW THE ANSWER.

SO HOW DO I RECONCILE SHARON JACKSON AND SHANA? OFFERING ME $3,000? AND THIS BOARD COMPLETELY DENIES THE CLAIM.

IN THE CITY. THE CITIZENS NEED TO KNOW THIS.

AND THE CITIZENS I'VE TALKED TO ABOUT THIS TOLD ME TO COME BACK AND I'LL BE BACK IN TWO WEEKS.

IT'S RIDICULOUS.

YOU NEED TO DO YOUR JOB.

AND EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A GOVERNMENT THAT DOES THIS.

YOU MISSED IT.

THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC FORUM? SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX B, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480 799 ZA 23 0005

[6.B. Ordinance No. 480-799 (ZA23-0005), 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Site Plan for Green Acres Nursery located on a property described as Tract 3D, W.R. Eaves Survey Abstract No. 500, Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 1963 W. Southlake Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "C-2" General Commercial District. Requested Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #10. PUBLIC HEARING ]

DIRECTOR. KILO, TAKE IT AWAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS A SECOND READING CONSIDERATION OF ZONING CHANGE FOR THE GREEN ACRES NURSERY LOCATED AT 1963 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

THE PROPOSAL IS FROM TO RETAIL DISTRICT TO SP ONE DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT WITH C2 USES.

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AS PART OF THE SP1 REGULATIONS, IT WILL RETAIN ALL C2, C2 USES AND WILL INCLUDE GARDEN CENTER, PLANT NURSERY, OUTDOOR SALES, DISPLAY AND STORAGE IN RELATION TO PLANT, NURSERY, GARDEN AND GARDEN CENTER USE.

IT WILL PERMIT ACCESSORY BUILDINGS IN RELATION TO THE PLANT, NURSERY AND GARDEN CENTER USE, AS WELL AS CULTIVATION OF PLANTS ON THE PROPERTY.

WITH DEVIATIONS FROM STANDARD CO2 REGULATIONS THERE REQUESTING A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF UP TO 35FT.

AND THAT IS MEASURED TO THE MIDPOINT OF THE HIGHEST GABLE STRUCTURE ON THE BUILDING.

THERE ARE ALSO FURTHER CLARIFYING THAT THAT IT WOULD NOT EXCEED A 45 FOOT OVERALL HEIGHT THAT WOULD BE TO THE PEAK OR RIDGE LINE IN THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE REGULATIONS.

THEY ARE ASKING UP TO 85%.

AND WITH REGARD TO TREE PRESERVATION, UNDER A STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT, THE REQUIRED PRESERVATION WOULD REQUIRE UP TO 40% OF THE EXISTING TREE COVER TO BE PRESERVED, AND THE PROPOSAL IS PRESERVING 37% OF THAT.

THIS IS A DETAILED LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THAT BERMED AREA, ADDED WHERE THE PARKING WAS PREVIOUSLY LOCATED AND TO AID IN SCREENING SOME OF THIS OTHER PARKING.

FOLLOWING FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, THE COUNCIL GAVE THE APPLICANT THE OPTION TO CONSIDER REORIENTING ORIENTING THE FRONT OF THEIR BUILDING. OTHER PART OF THAT DISCUSSION INVOLVED MAYBE CHANGING SOME OF THAT ELEVATION TO BE MORE APPEALING TO THE SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD FRONTAGE.

THE UPPER ELEVATION OF THIS SHOWS WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT FIRST READING AND THE APPLICANT HAS CHOSEN TO KEEP THE SAME ORIENTATION OF BUILDING AND PRIMARY PARKING FIELD AND HAS MODIFIED THAT NORTH ELEVATION, ADDING THIS GABLED ELEMENT ON THAT NORTH OR SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD FACING FRONTAGE.

THE WEST ELEVATION REMAINS AS PRESENTED WITH THE FIRST READING AS WELL AS THE EAST AND SOUTH ELEVATIONS. DENNIS SO THE ONLY REAL CHANGE IS THAT ADDING THAT GABLE ELEMENT ON THE NORTH ELEVATION? THAT IS CORRECT.

THESE ARE RENDERINGS THAT WERE AT YOUR FIRST READING THAT SHOWED WHAT THAT NORTH FACADE LOOKED LIKE.

AND THIS IS A RENDERING SHOWING THE CHANGE THAT THEY'VE MADE TO THAT ELEVATION.

THAT'S A GOOD CHANGE. OKAY.

A FEW OTHER PERSPECTIVES.

BUT WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITHIN THE 300 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.

YOUR FIRST READING OF APPROVAL OF THIS APPROVED IT, NOTING THE OPTION THAT THAT THEY COULD CONSIDER REORIENTATION AND THEN ALSO AGREEING WITH PANSY'S FINDING REGARDING COMPLIANCE WITH THE UNDER UNDERLYING LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY AND HOW THE PROPERTY IS BEING DEVELOPED AND WHAT ITS CURRENT ZONING IS TODAY.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS ABOUT THAT CHANGE? PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THANK YOU, SIR. APPLICANTS, YOU GUYS WANT TO COME UP AND.

TALK TO US ONE MORE TIME.

A MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS AGAIN.

WE'RE PROUD TO BE HERE AND PROUD TO BE SHARING THIS WITH YOU.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

NICK GRANLUND WITH O'BRIEN ARCHITECTS, 1722 RUTH STREET, DALLAS.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS CHANGE.

YOU GUYS ARE NOTHING IF NOT VERY RESPONSIVE TO ALL OF OUR COMMENTS.

SO THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND IN RESPONSE TO THE OTHER QUESTION THAT WE HAD LAST TIME ABOUT ROTATING THE BUILDING, WE DID TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT.

YEAH, WE FEEL LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A DESTINATION RETAILER, NOT A DRIVE BY RETAILER.

AND WE'VE GONE TO A LOT OF TROUBLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK.

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MOST RETAILERS, AS YOU'RE PRETTY AWARE, HAVE SORT OF AN IDEAL WINDOW OF TIME WHEN THEY OPEN TO HIT THEIR PEAK SEASONS, AND THIS WOULD STILL ALLOW THEM TO OPEN THIS TIME NEXT YEAR FOR THE SPRING AND TO DELAY THAT BY HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE REORIENTATION AND THE RE, YOU KNOW, SPIN MEETING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

IF WE HAD TO DO THAT, WOULD WOULD POSTPONE THAT.

SO. SURE. YEAH.

WELL, I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK YOU DRESSED UP THE NORTH ELEVATION.

WE'LL SEE WHAT COUNCIL FEELS.

BUT YOU KNOW WE I KNOW YOU TURN THE BUILDING INITIALLY ON OUR COMMENTS SO HAPPY THAT THERE WON'T BE A CAR PARKING ON 1709.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD CHANGE BUT COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD.

Y'ALL TAKE A SEAT AND WE'LL CALL YOU UP IF WE NEED YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

ITEM 60 IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 60, I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.

SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

SECOND READING.

LOOKS GOOD TO ME. I THINK.

LIKE YOU SAID, THE APPLICANT HAS DONE ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE REQUESTED ALL THROUGH THE PROCESS.

I LIKE THE LOOK FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD WITH THE LANDSCAPING AND THE BERM AND NOT HAVING THE PARKING RIGHT ON 1709.

AND I ALSO LIKE THIS USE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR THIS PROPERTY WITH THE IT COULD BE A LOT WORSE AS FAR AS DEVELOPING THIS PIECE.

SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT.

YEAH, I AGREE AND I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANTS WILLINGNESS TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT.

AND I LIKE THE CHANGE THAT THEY MADE WITH THE SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD FACING LITTLE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT AWNING.

I DON'T KNOW. GABLE WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THIS, ESPECIALLY LIKE COUNCILMAN MCCASKILL POINTED OUT, IT'S A GREAT USE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WE HAVE A FAMILY FULL OF GARDENERS, SO WE WILL BE REGULAR VISITORS.

WE'RE EXCITED. THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION. YES, MAYOR.

COUNCIL. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. ITEM SIX B, OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480799 WSA 20 3-0005 SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR GREEN ACRES NURSERY LOCATED ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACT TRACT THREE D I'VE SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 500 SOUTHLAKE TARRANT COUNTY, TEXAS, AND LOCATED AT 1963 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED APRIL 11TH, 2023, AND THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO, DATED APRIL 11TH, 2023, AND ALSO NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING.

HOWEVER, WE ARE NOTING THAT NO SIGNS ARE BEING APPROVED THIS EVENING, INCLUDING THE WATER TOWER FEATURE.

THESE ARE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL UNDER A SEPARATE SIGN PERMIT IN COMPLIANCE WITH SIGN ORDINANCE NUMBER 704 AS AMENDED AND AGREEING WITH FINDING OF THE P AND Z COMMISSION THAT WHILE THE SITE HAS RETAIL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION ON THE NORTHERN END AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE SITE, THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN GIVEN THE ENTIRE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED.

C TWO RETAIL DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED ZONING, IS FURTHER ALIGNED WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AS THE AREA WITH MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION WILL PRIMARILY BE USED FOR THE CULTIVATION OF PLANTS, STORAGE OF LANDSCAPE SUPPLIES AS WELL AS OPEN SPACE.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OKAY, GREAT. THAT ITEM PASSES.

SEVEN ZERO. WELCOME TO TOWN, GREEN ACRES.

WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU GUYS.

ALL RIGHT. OR THAT.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

[9.A. SV23-0004, Sign Variance for XO Marriage, located at 1021 Grace Lane, Southlake, TX. ]

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE A, WHICH IS SB 23 0004 SIGN VARIANCE FOR X O MARRIAGE DIRECTOR KILO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MARRIAGE HAS UPDATED THEIR SIGN PACKAGE FOLLOWING COUNCIL'S FIRST CONSIDERATION OF THIS LOCATION IS AT GRACE LANE AND EAST KIRKWOOD KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD.

THE SITE SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE VARIOUS MONUMENT SIGNS AS WELL AS ATTACHED BUILDING SIGNS.

FIRST ITEM IS CONSIDERATION OF THE SCULPTURED MONUMENT SIGN LOCATED AT THE MAIN ENTRY OF THE BUILDING.

THE VARIANCES THAT THIS SIGN IS SUBJECT TO ARE NOTED ON THIS.

SLIDE. THIS IS A RENDERING NAPKINS PROVIDED.

ON THE UPPER STORY SIGNS.

THE APPLICANT HAS LIMITED THEIR REQUEST TO THE EAST AND SOUTH ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING AND FOR

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OPTION A WOULD INCLUDE THE COPY OF EXCEL MARRIAGE.COM ON THAT EAST ELEVATION WITH THE DEVIATIONS FROM THE SIGN ORDINANCE PRIMARILY BEING THE UPPER STORY SIGN ITSELF.

THE JUSTIFICATION OF HOW IT IS PLACED ON THE FACADE AND THEN THE AREA THAT IS PERMITTED BASED ON THE WIDTH OF THAT BUILDING ELEVATION, A ONE FOOT DEVIATION FROM WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.

OPTION B WOULD LIMIT THAT SIGN TO JUST THE XO COPY ON THAT ELEVATION.

AND THE VARIANCE CONSIDERATION ON THAT WOULD REALLY BE JUST THE UPPER STORY SIGN ITSELF AND THEN HOW THAT IS PLACED ON THAT SIDE. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE 75% OF THE FACADE AND THIS ONE IS RIGHT JUSTIFIED AS OPTION A.

DENNIS. YES, SIR.

CAN I INTERRUPT YOU? WHY? EXPLAIN TO ME THE NUANCE OF WHY UPPER STORY SIGNS ARE PROHIBITED ON A BUILDING LIKE THIS.

WHEN? WHEN WE BEGAN HAVING MORE AND MORE UPPER STOREY COMMERCIAL MULTI FLOOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITH SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS, THERE WAS JUST A CONCERN OF, I GUESS, PROMINENCE OF THAT SIGNAGE AND HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING. AND WHEN WE BROUGHT FORWARD AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS THAT, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT REALLY THE ONLY WAY WE CITY WANTED TO HAVE THESE CONSIDERED WAS AS PART OF A MASTER SIGN PLAN OR A OR A VARIANCE.

OKAY. WHERE ON THIS FACADE WOULD WOULD IT BE PERMITTED ON THE HEIGHT WISE? ON THE LOWER FLOOR, IT COULD NOT EXCEED, I BELIEVE, 20FT IN HEIGHT FROM GRADE OR EXCEED LOCATION OF WHERE THE SECOND FLOOR BEGINS.

AND SO ATTACH SIGNS GIVEN COMPLIANCE WITH LETTER SIZE AND AREA AND THE TYPE OF SIGN INSTALLED COULD POTENTIALLY FIT ON ANY OF THESE FACADES FACING A STREET OR INTERNAL DRIVEWAY.

SOMEWHERE IN THIS PROXIMITY, I'M GOING TO JUST GUESS OR GUESS OR ESTIMATE WHERE WHERE THAT SECOND FLOOR BEGINS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SURE. ON THE SOUTH FACADE.

THEY ARE PROPOSING JUST ONE OPTION WITH XO MARRIAGE.

RIGHT. JUSTIFIED ON THAT FACADE RATHER THAN IN THE MIDDLE 75% AND ASKING FOR LETTER SIZE OF UP TO 36IN WHERE IT'S LIMITED TO 24.

SO THOUGH THOSE ARE THE THREE VARIANCES PERMIT THE UPPER STORY SIGN JUSTIFICATION OF THE SIGN ON THE FACADE AND 36 INCH DIRECTOR KILO, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES. OKAY. SO THIS IS XO MARRIAGE.

CAN YOU BACK UP TWO SLIDES? SURE. AND NOW THIS IS XO MARRIAGE.COM.

IS THE.COM NEW? DID WE SEE THIS? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.

OKAY. BECAUSE THIS WAS A NEW DEVIATION TO THE.

YEAH, THE BUSINESS IS EXCEL MARRIAGE, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO EXCEL MARRIAGE.COM I, I DON'T I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S WITHIN OUR ORDINANCE BECAUSE THIS IS A PUT A WEBSITE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING VERSUS THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS.

YEAH. THIS IS AN ADVERTISING RIGHT.

BUT THIS IS JUST ONE OPTION.

THE OTHER ONE IS JUST THE LOGO.

IT LOOKS LIKE. I DON'T THINK OUR SIGN ORDINANCE WOULD PROHIBIT IT.

IT WOULD TREAT IT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER.

OKAY, COPY OR LANGUAGE PERMITTED.

BUT IF THAT'S A CHANGE WITH THE SIGN BOARD HAVE HAD TO SEE IT.

THIS IS DIFFERENT, THOUGH, SIR, RIGHT? NO. OKAY. OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

BUT IT'S AN OPTION. SO IT'S NOT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.

IS THE APPLICANT ASKING TO PUT THIS ON ONE SIDE AND THEN EXCEL MARRIAGE ON ANOTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING, OR DO WE CHOOSE ONE OF THEM? AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME ON BOTH SIDES.

THIS IS JUST THAT IS CERTAINLY A CONSIDERATION THAT YOU COULD DISCUSS WITH THE THE APPLICANT.

THIS IS JUST THE EAST ELEVATION AND THE MARRIAGE IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO THEN THE PROPOSAL IS TO DO TWO SEPARATE SIGNS.

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AND THEN THEY'VE PROVIDED ONLY ONE OPTION ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION, WHICH IS EXCEL MARRIAGE.

BUT CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT OCCURS ON THIS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SETTLE ON.

A SUITABLE OPTION FOR BOTH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. UM, ON THE MONUMENT SIGNS, THE.

THE APPLICANT INCLUDED THEIR FULL MONUMENT SIGN PACKAGE AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT.

THIS IS THE.

THE GRACE LANE MONUMENT SIGN.

THE VARIANCES PERTAINING TO THAT ARE THE REQUIRED SIX INCH OF MASONRY THAT IS REQUIRED TO SURROUND WHAT IS IDENTIFIED AS THE ACTUAL SIGN FACE AREA WITHIN THE MONUMENT.

THIS IS JUST A SMOOTH FACE STUCCO WITH THE COPY AND ONLY I BELIEVE HAS.

A FEW INCHES BETWEEN THESE EDGES HERE.

ALSO, JUST THE SIZE OF ADDRESSING ORDINANCE REQUIRES SIX INCH HEIGHT MINIMUM THERE ADDRESSING IS AT THREE INCH. KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD SIGN.

ALSO SAME ISSUE WITH THE MASONRY EDGING OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S DEFINED AS THE SIGN FACE AREA.

AND IT INCLUDES NO ADDRESSING WHICH THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE ADDRESSING ON THE MONUMENT SIGN.

IT JUST INCLUDES LOCATION OF THE ENTRANCE THAT.

COMES INTO THE PROPERTY.

ALSO WITH CONSIDERATION OF THE TWO SIGNS, THE ORDINANCE DOES ALLOW A MONUMENT SIGN ON EACH STREET FRONTAGE, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE THAT THERE BE A MINIMUM SEPARATION BETWEEN THOSE OF 500FT, AND THESE ARE ROUGHLY 364FT APART.

CAN YOU POINT THEM BOTH OUT ON THE SITE PLAN, PLEASE? SURE. THIS IS THE NORTH ENTRANCE OF KIRKWOOD, AND THE OTHER MONUMENT SIGN IS LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE OFF GRACE LANE.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND I CAN REFER BACK TO SOME OF THE COMPARATIVE.

SIGNS IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION AT YOUR LAST CONSIDERATION OF THIS, IF YOU WISH.

AND SO THIS BUILDING GOT THE VARIANCE FOR UPPER STOREY SIGNS, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY.

SO WE HAVE APPROVED THAT IN THE PAST.

AND WESTON.

GATEWAY CHURCH.

GRANITE ONE BUILDING.

AND THESE WERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SIGN BOARD, WHICH THEY DENIED THE MONUMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO TO.

THE SIGN BOARD AND GENERALLY ASKS THAT THEY BRING BACK OPTIONS.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALLOWING ONLY TO ATTACH SIGNS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSING THREE UPPER STORY ATTACHED SIGNS AND BRINGING OPTIONS THAT WOULD BE IN THE 35 INCH RANGE.

I'LL BE GLAD TO REFER BACK TO ANY SLIDES OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? LOT TO CHEW ON. OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP WHEN WE NEED YOU.

THE APPLICANT HERE. COME ON DOWN.

YOU GUYS COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

BRANT EVANS WON 15 GRAND AVENUE, SUITE 213 SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? YEAH, QUITE A BIT, ACTUALLY.

I WASN'T HERE LAST TIME.

I COULDN'T BE HERE WITH MY WIFE AND I WERE CELEBRATING, IRONICALLY, OUR 25TH ANNIVERSARY.

AND BUT I WATCHED ALL OF IT ONLINE.

IT WAS VERY IT WAS VERY WELL, I THINK, DEBATED BACK AND FORTH.

AND SO THE TEAM AND I WENT BACK AND WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING, THE COMMENTS.

I LOVED YOUR COMMENTS, MAYOR.

SO THE SCULPTURE WAS OBVIOUSLY PART OF THE THE HEATED DEBATE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD THE COUNCIL MEMBER SEAN MACASKILL SAY WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE A FULL PACKAGE PUT TOGETHER THAT WOULD BE COMPREHENSIVE IN SCOPE, THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PIECEMEAL EVERYTHING.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THIS IS BOTH AN IMPORTANT MONUMENT FOR THE CITY AND ALSO WE'RE A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION.

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SO THIS WILL BE SOMETHING WHERE WHEN PEOPLE SEE IT, IT WILL RESONATE WITH THEM, I THINK, ON A PRETTY DEEP LEVEL.

BUT ALSO LOCALLY IT IS A SYMBOL OF MARRIAGE HELP.

SO WE'RE HERE TO KIND OF HELP MARRIAGES IN THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY, AND WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO HAVE.

SO OUR OUR LOGO OF MARRIAGE IS BUILT A CERTAIN WAY.

SO WITH THE VARIANCE, THE XO IS LARGER THAN THE WORD MARRIAGE.

SO ON THE FRONT, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE XO TO BE LARGER THAN THE VARIANCE TO TO BE 24IN WOULD JUST COMPRESS EVERYTHING.

SO ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON THE SIGN HEIGHT ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT XO MARRIAGE ON THERE IN ORDER TO CREATE A 24 INCH SIGNAGE THERE.

THAT DOESN'T LOOK TINY COMPARED TO THE VISIBILITY OF THE BUILDING WE PUT ESMAS.COM.

NOW I UNDERSTAND IT'S AN ADVERTISEMENT, BUT IT'S ALSO SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE BUILDING IS AND THAT BRINGS SOME AWARENESS TO IT.

OPTION B IS JUST AN XO ON THERE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE'RE AT THE MERCY OF THE CITY.

IT'S NOT OUR FAVORITE OPTION.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ADVERTISE WHAT WE DO IN A GROSS WAY, AN EGREGIOUS WAY, BUT WE REALLY BELIEVE THIS.

THIS BUILDING WILL BE THINK OF LIKE A DAVE RAMSEY WHO PEOPLE GO TO HIS BUILDING TO CELEBRATE WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO FOR FINANCES.

PEOPLE COME TO OUR BUILDING TO CELEBRATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR MARRIAGE.

AND SO IT DOES HAVE SOME VISIBILITY.

WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE AWARENESS WITH IT, NOT IN A GROSS WAY.

SO THE XO MARRIOTT.COM THE SIDE, I FELT LIKE IT WAS TASTEFUL WAS DONE IN A WAY THAT THE CITY HOPEFULLY WOULD BE WOULD SEE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE ORDINANCE 24IN TALL.

THE SCULPTURE I WOULD ALSO SAY IS PRETTY HIDDEN.

WHENEVER YOU'RE DRIVING ON 114, YOU WOULDN'T REALLY SEE IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DRIVE UP GRACE LANE, REALLY KIND OF TURN THE CORNER INTO OUR BUILDING IN ORDER TO SEE THE SCULPTURE, THE THE OUTDOOR SIGNS THAT THAT LEAD INTO THE BUILDING AS WELL, I FEEL LIKE ARE FAIRLY BASIC AND WE KIND OF DIALED ALL THOSE DOWN.

WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL FELT LIKE WE WERE HEARING WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

BUT I WANT TO HEAR I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I FEEL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE XO SCULPTURE AND HAVING SOME REPRESENTATION ON THE BUILDING WITH THE WORD MARRIAGE. WE HAVE TO ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, EVERYONE WHO FOLLOWS US, THIS BUILDING THAT WE KNOW OF IS THE ONLY BUILDING IN AMERICA WITH THE WORD MARRIAGE ON IT THAT IS 100% DEDICATED TO HELPING CHRISTIANS AND COUPLES IN THE AREA OF MARRIAGE.

SO WE BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT FIXTURE FOR THE CITY, BUT ALSO NATIONALLY.

THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE ARE BUILDING STRONG RELATIONSHIPS, WHICH WE FEEL LIKE IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO STAND FOR IN THIS DAY AND AGE.

SO THIS THIS BUILDING IS LAYERED WITH A LOT OF THINGS.

I KNOW THIS IS JUST A SIGN, YOU KNOW, MEETING AND WE HOPE I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I HOPE THAT THIS PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT TO WHY WE'RE TRYING TO PRESENT THIS. YEAH, FOR SURE.

FOR SURE. THANK YOU FOR THAT CONTENT CONTEXT.

AND I THINK WE ALL LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT YOU GUYS AND AND YOUR MISSION.

I THINK IT'S CRITICAL, ESPECIALLY NOWADAYS.

I THINK WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH ON THE SIGNS HERE, I'M NOT A HUGE SIGN GUY, BUT WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS USUALLY WHEN WE'RE CHEWING THROUGH AN APPLICATION WITH THIS MANY VARIANCES, IT'S A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING OR IT'S A NEW TENANT OR MULTIPLE TENANTS INTO AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT'S GOT SOME WEIRDNESS TO IT.

BUT THIS WAS A GREENFIELD SITE, TOTALLY NEW.

Y'ALL'S DESIGN Y'ALL'S BUILDING.

AND IT JUST IT'S A TON OF VARIANCES AND IT JUST FEELS LIKE, TO BE HONEST, NO OFFENSE, BUT IT FEELS LIKE THE SIGN ORDINANCE WAS SORT OF DISREGARDED IN A LOT OF THE DESIGN OF THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT WANTING THIS OR WANTING THAT, BUT ON SOME OF THE STUFF LIKE LIKE THE MONUMENT SIGNS, LIKE THERE'S NO REASON TO TO NOT I MEAN, WE HAVE THE SIGN ORDINANCE IS THERE FOR A REASON.

THERE'S NO I DON'T SEE A BURNING REASON JUST TO FIT Y'ALL'S ESTHETIC TO GIVE YOU ALL THESE VARIANCES BECAUSE YOU UNDERSTAND PART OF WHAT WE DO IS CHEW THROUGH THESE THINGS WITH A VIEW TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE KNOW IF WE KIND OF LET THE GENIE OUT OF THE BOTTLE AND JUST GRANT WHATEVER VARIANCE COMES ACROSS? HOW DO WE DIAL THAT BACK WITH THE.

GUY. SO SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING FAIR TO EVERYONE.

AND THAT'S WHY THESE VARIANCES, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE VERY DETAILED, BUT THEY CAN GET KIND OF STICKY.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL MY PERSPECTIVE, BUT BUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST TALK TO ME ABOUT WHY ALL THE VARIANCES, I GUESS WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ALL STARTED FROM A BLANK SHEET OF PAPER, WHY SO MANY CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE? WE DREAMT PRETTY BIG WITH THE BUILDING AND WE HAD ARCHITECTS COME IN AND THEY REALLY PAINTED A PICTURE THAT WE WANTED TO TRANSLATE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN TO THE BUILDING PROJECT. SO THIS IS AN EXCITING PROJECT OBVIOUSLY FOR US.

I WOULD SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A HEARTFELT NEED THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS THAT HAVE GONE UP LIKE GRANITE PLACE AND THOSE PLACES THAT ARE MORE CLASS A OFFICE SPACE THAT DON'T REALLY HAVE A HEART AND SOUL TO IT UNTIL A TENANT IS FEELING THAT THIS WAS STARTED WITH A MESSAGE AND A, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A MISSION.

SO THE THE WHOLE ENVIRONMENT OF THE THE LAND WAS BUILT WITH KIND OF A PURPOSE IN MIND.

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AND WE WERE TRYING TO SEE IF THAT STUFF WOULD WOULD WOULD BE WOULD BE OKAY.

WHAT I HEARD LAST TIME WAS YOU GUYS HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS.

WE TOOK THOSE IN.

I FELT LIKE THIS THIS ROUND.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY TO YOU IS WE WANT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE, BUT WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR MAYBE SOME LEEWAY IN SOME PLACES THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH SOME CONTEXT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN MINDED TO THE FACT THAT THIS WON'T JUST BE FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

THIS IS THIS IS A PLACE WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING IN.

WE DON'T NEED A BIG, YOU KNOW, SPOTLIGHT ON IT, YOU KNOW, BEAMING FROM IT.

BUT IF SOMEBODY IS COMING, WE'D LIKE TO RAISE A LITTLE AWARENESS AS THEY'RE APPROACHING THE BUILDING AND TO CREATE FROM A BRAND PERSPECTIVE, CREATE THAT FEELING THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, ALL THAT WE DO EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRIVING UP ON THE PROPERTY, THAT THAT TRANSLATES SOMEHOW TO THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THAT THAT FEELING THAT THEY HAVE. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT DISNEY WORLD.

WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT IT'S A IT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME TO GET, YOU KNOW, HELP IN THEIR MARRIAGE OR THEY'VE BEEN HELPED FROM AFAR, AND NOW THEY'RE COMING TO WITNESS IT ON SITE. IT'S A IT'S A UNIQUE PROPERTY.

I GET IT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET CUTE WITH IT.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET WEIRD WITH IT.

WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO EXPRESS OURSELVES AS AN ORGANIZATION IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY IN THE CITY.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A PASSION PROJECT FOR US.

IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE WANT YOU GUYS TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE A NICE NEIGHBOR.

I LIVE HERE IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, SO I DON'T WANT TO I WANT TO BE PROUD OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING AS WELL.

SO I WANT IT TO BE A NICE REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY AS WELL.

SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE HEART AND SOUL OF IT.

THERE'S NO THERE'S NO REALLY DESIRE ON OUR PART TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, FRUSTRATIONS FOR YOU GUYS AT ALL.

THIS IS JUST SORT OF THIS LAST ITERATION IS SORT OF WHERE WE ARE AS HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN BOTH WIN.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? GUYS, I HAVE A QUESTION ON I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WANT EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THERE, BUT LET'S TALK SPECIFICALLY SCULPTURE SIGN VERSUS THE TWO MONUMENT SIGNS.

IF YOU HAD TO GET ONE OR THE OTHER, WHICH WOULD IT BE? I KNOW I HAVE A PREFERENCE, BUT.

WELL, I KNOW THE MAYOR HAS A PREFERENCE, TOO, BUT THE SCULPTURE IS REALLY KIND OF WHERE WAS I THAT TRANSPARENT LAST MEETING? I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT I SAID.

I DON'T HIDE MY FEELINGS. I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID LAST TIME, I THINK I WAS OKAY WITH THE SCULPTURE SIGN WHEN WE WEREN'T SHOWING ANY MONUMENT SIGNS.

I THINK WITH THE MONUMENT SIGNS NOW SEEING THEM, IT'S JUST OVERDOING IT.

I KIND OF LIKE I THINK I WOULD PREFER THE SCULPTURE SIGN BECAUSE I THINK, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, IT'S INTERNAL TO THE SITE.

IT'S NOT RIGHT ON THE STREETS.

GIVEN THAT THIS IS Y'ALL'S BUILDING AND JUST YOUR BUILDING, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THE MONUMENT SIGNS AT ALL ON GRACE AND KIRKWOOD.

SO I'D BE IN FAVOR OF GIVING YOU THE SCULPTURE SIGN, BUT NOT THE MONUMENT SIGNS.

AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.

BUT I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIG ISSUE FOR US TO DISCUSS.

IF IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER, I WOULD I WOULD DOUBLE DOWN ON ON THE SCULPTURE.

OKAY. THANKS.

YEAH. I SAID THIS LAST TIME.

I'M NOT OFFENDED BY THE SCULPTURE.

I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S KIND OF COOL.

I ALSO HAVE BEEN TO AN EX MARRIAGE CONFERENCE, SO I UNDERSTAND THE FEELING OF GOING IN AND I UNDERSTAND THE PRIDE OF COMING OUT AND I SEE COUPLES STANDING HERE TAKING A PICTURE, TAGGING THAT THEY'RE IN LOCATION SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

I THINK IT'S UNIQUE.

I THINK IT'S A PHOTO OP. IT'S SUPER HIDDEN BACK THERE.

THERE ARE SINGLE TENANT BUILDINGS.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OTHER TENANTS COMPLAINING.

I, I THINK WE CAN TAKE IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

THIS WHOLE WE SET A PRECEDENT THING.

IT'S STILL UP TO US.

THE QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT THE MONUMENT SIGNS AND I'M NOT OFFENDED BY TWO MONUMENT SIGNS, HOWEVER I DO I DO SOMEWHAT AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCASKILL.

I DON'T LOVE THEM.

SO FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD MISS PEOPLE WOULD MISS ENTRANCES IF WE GOT RID OF THOSE OR ARE THEY CRUCIAL OR ARE THEY JUST I SEE MONUMENT SIGNS AS SORT OF A NECESSARY EVIL SOMETIMES BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST IT'S LIKE HAVING A MAILBOX IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE.

IT JUST KIND OF PROVIDES A LITTLE ORIENTATION FOR ME.

THE MONUMENT SIGNS DON'T SELL ANYTHING.

THEY'RE JUST KIND OF GIVING SOME AWARENESS.

SO THEY'RE NOTHING.

WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THE STREET THAT IF SOMEBODY'S PULLING UP, THERE'S NO MYSTERY TO WHERE WE ARE.

SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING WHERE I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MISS OUR PROPERTY.

SO THE MONUMENT SIGNS FOR ME ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT.

THEY JUST TO ME SEEM LIKE IT'S.

KIND OF KIND OF WHAT MOST PROPERTIES LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE TO SOME LEVEL ON THE STREET SIDE.

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ALL RIGHT. UM, SO I DO LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER MCCASKILL'S SUGGESTION.

I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IS WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING TO GET ANYWHERE ANYMORE.

WE JUST NEED A MAP APP.

SO FOR ME, THIS IS THIS IS A LOT OF SIGNAGE THAT I THINK A LOT OF IT'S UNNECESSARY.

SO I THINK IT'S GOOD TO DIAL IT DOWN TO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET TO THE SITE.

I AGREE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED THE MONUMENT SIGNS.

IT'S AGAIN, IT'S A LOT PUT TOGETHER.

I DON'T LIKE THE.COM ON THE BUILDING I YOU KNOW YOU COULD ADD.COM TO ANY COMPANY'S NAME AND FIND THEM ONLINE SO I'M NOT SURE THAT'S NECESSARY EITHER.

I GUESS I COULD GET IF WE COULD.

I LIKE THE SUGGESTION OF SAYING NO TO THE MONUMENT SIGNS AND THEN I COULD PROBABLY GET AROUND TO SAYING YES TO THE.

SCULPTURE SIGN LOGO SIGN IN THE FOUNTAIN BECAUSE IT IS INTERIOR TO THE SITE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM ON ALL THESE VARIANCES.

I AGREE WITH THE SIGN BOARD.

GO DOWN TO TWO IN THE BUILDING, NO.COM, NO MONUMENT SIGNS AND THEN I CAN I CAN GET WRAPPED AROUND THE LOGO FOUNTAIN'S SCULPTURE SIGN.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, ON THE ONE FACADE WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING THE.COM WHICH I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT EITHER.

I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND MAYBE BEING PROGRESSIVE AND ALLOWING THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK I CAN GET THERE.

IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU WOULDN'T JUST HAVE THE SAME SIGN ON BOTH FACADES EX MARRIAGE, WHY YOU WOULD JUST WANT THE EX? SO TO ME AN ECHO IS A LITTLE BIT USELESS ON THE OUTSIDE OF A BUILDING, BUT THE THE VARIANCE ON THE ON THE SIGNAGE THERE, THERE IS STIPULATIONS THAT IT HAS TO BE 24IN. SO THE WAY OUR LOGO IS DESIGNED, IF YOU HAVE IT 24IN AT THE MAXIMUM, THEN X0 IS 24IN AND THEN THE WORD MARRIAGE IS 12IN.

SO YOU HAVE JUST THIS VERY DIFFICULT TO READ SIGN, WHICH IS BASICALLY TO ME IS A WASTE OF REAL ESTATE ON THERE.

JUST HAVING THE X0 IS FINE, BUT I THINK IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF MYSTERY.

PEOPLE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE X0 IS.

IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDENTIFIER, BUT THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS PRETTY MUCH THE MOST PROMINENT SIDE OF THE BUILDING AS YOU'RE TRYING TO PULL UP.

SO FOR ME IT'S ABOUT RAISING AWARENESS.

IT'S ABOUT PUTTING MARRIAGE ON THERE ALL THE SAME SIZE AND ALSO SO IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S A DEVIATION FROM OUR LOGO SIGNAGE.

IT PUTS IT IN A SPACE WHERE IT ACTUALLY KIND OF PROVIDES A PURPOSE FOR IT AS WELL.

I KNOW, I KNEW.

I KNEW WALKING INTO THIS THE.COM WOULD BE A CHALLENGE AND I'M NOT TRYING TO FORCE IT.

TO ME IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE IT IS A VERY HIGHLY VISIBLE PLACE AND I DRIVE DOWN 114 ALL THE TIME AND I'M SEEING FURY ATHLETICS AND TRINITY INVESTORS AND WESTERN HOTEL AND ALL THESE KIND OF PLACES AND EVO AND ALL THESE ALL THESE PLACES.

AND NONE OF THEM HAVE A.COM.

AND I DO AGREE YOU CAN PUT A.COM ON EVERYWHERE, BUT THIS IS JUST A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO, I GUESS FIND US A LITTLE QUICKER.

IT'S NOT TO ME ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF THE OTHER SIGNAGE.

THE.COM IS A DESTINATION, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A FLAGRANT MIS USE OF THE SPACE IN MY OPINION.

SO THAT SAID, YOU ASKED FOR A LOT OF VARIANCES.

SO WHY ARE YOU STICKING TO THE 24IN ON THIS ONE SIDE? I MEAN, WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT TRENDY INVESTORS AT 36, WE'VE GOT WESTIN AT 39 MAYBE, I THINK OR SOMETHING.

WE HAVE OTHER SIGNS THAT ARE MUCH LARGER THAN 24.

AND ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WHEN PEOPLE ARRIVE AGAIN, IT'S AN EXPERIENCE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR A LARGER SIGN ON THE FRONT.

THE XO MARRIAGE ON THE FRONT IS A REPLICATION OF WHAT OUR BRANDING IS.

THAT LOOKS LIKE WHAT PEOPLE WOULD SEE ANYWHERE.

SO WHEN PEOPLE ARRIVE TO THE BUILDING, I NEEDED THAT FROM A BRAND INTEGRITY, BRAND INTEGRITY STANDPOINT THAT TO BE A RESONATION OF KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SEEING EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT WE HAVE IT.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AND THAT'S WE'RE ASKING ACTUALLY FOR A VARIANCE ON THAT SIGNAGE.

SO FOR ME TO GO BACK AND SAY I NEED I KNOW WE'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF VARIANCES, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE PLAYING BY THE RULES BY KIND OF GOING ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING SAYING THIS IS US DOING WHAT YOU WHAT YOU WHAT YOU HAVE IS PART OF THE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, RULES, ORDINANCES. AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT IF IF WE CAN.

AND I THINK WE REDUCED ONE OF THE SIGNS ON THE BACK AS WELL.

SO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO IS SCALE BACK AS MUCH AS I POSSIBLY COULD.

WE'RE HAPPY TO GET RID OF THE MONUMENT SIGNS.

YOU KNOW, IF I WAS GOING TO DIG MY FEET IN THE GROUND ON SOMETHING, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE LARGER EXO MARRIAGE ON THE FRONT AND THE SCULPTURE ON THE FRONT.

I AM STILL ASKING FOR THE.COM ON THE SIDE BECAUSE IT JUST IT PROVIDES A BENEFIT TO THE BUILDING FOR US.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS, YOU KNOW, A PLACE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY NEED TO BE PROTECTIVE OF THE CITY LANDSCAPE.

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TO ME, IT'S PRETTY PRETTY FAR BACK FROM THE 114, THE SIGNS ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY SMALL ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S RIGHT UP CLOSE, BUT IT DOES IF SOMEBODY IS CURIOUS.

THERE ARE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE DFW AREA THAT HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS WHERE IT JUST PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT EASIER CONNECTIVITY TO THE ORGANIZATION.

SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION. IF IF WE IF WE SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT WE DON'T WANT TO APPROVE THE THE.COM.

BUT WHAT'S UP RIGHT NOW THE EXO MARRIAGE WITH WITH MORE LETTER HEIGHT TO ACCOMMODATE THE LARGER EXO OR THE SMALLER MARRIAGE.

WHAT IF WE HAD THAT ON BOTH BOTH ELEVATIONS THAT WOULD BE AGREEABLE.

YEAH, THAT'S. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

I LOVE I ACTUALLY LOVE THE THE STRUCTURE UP FRONT, THE SCULPTURE UP FRONT, BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S IMPRESSIVE AND I THINK IT WILL BE PHOTO WORTHY.

AND I THINK YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.

I DON'T LIKE THE.COM EITHER, JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS ODD TO ME THERE.

AND THEN THE XO TO ME SEEMS TO GET LOST.

AND I ACTUALLY I JUST GOOGLED XO AND IT DOESN'T EVEN PULL YOU UP ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE GOOGLE.

SO I THINK I'M AFRAID YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE IF SOMEONE WALKS BY THAT OR DRIVES BY THAT AND GOOGLE'S XO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT IS.

THEY'RE GOING TO SEE BEYONCE'S SONG, WHICH IS NOT ABOUT MARRIAGE.

BUT I LIKE I WOULD LIKE THAT OPTION DOING THIS SIGN ON BOTH ON BOTH BOTH UPPER STORIES AND THE FRONT SCULPTURE WILL BE MY PREFERENCE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS AND YOU'RE A BRANDING GUY, IF YOU DON'T INCREASE THE XO ON THIS IS A MARRIAGE.

THIS IS NOT THE XO MARRIAGE WITHOUT THE THE BIG XO TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T AWARE OF IT RIGHT WITHOUT THE.COM.

SO I THINK TO ME IT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC OK TO TAKE OFF THE.COM AND THEN LEAVE AT THE CURRENT HEIGHT.

BUT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS YOU GUYS ARE SAYING IF WE DO THE SAME SIGN ON THE FRONT AND THE SIDE, YOU ALL WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.

I CERTAINLY WOULD. I ABSOLUTELY DON'T LIKE THE MARRIAGE ON THE SIDE OF A BUILDING WITHOUT THE.COM.

YEAH. AND I THINK WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

I MEAN I'M NOT A I'M NOT SITTING HERE SAYING I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL THAT IT WOULD BE 36 INCH.

I MEAN WE MAY HAVE A KIND OF A CONVERSATION THAT SAYS WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW WHAT SEEMS REASONABLE? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER.

I'M MORE INTERESTED IN THIS LOOK, THOUGH.

DO YOU LIKE THIS LOOK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? YEAH, IT'S OUR. IT'S OUR LOGO.

I MEAN, AGAIN, WE WERE JUST TRYING NOT TO FORCE TOO LARGE SIGNS OVER THE THE ORDINANCE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BUILDING.

WE REALLY DID TRY TO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU GUYS WERE SAYING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE COMING BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS PALATABLE.

THAT'S WHY OPTION B WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A PUNT TO SOMETHING THAT FELT LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THE SCULPTURE.

THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE THE WOW FACTOR OF DRIVING UP TO THE PROPERTY FOR FOR THOSE WHO LOVE OUR ORGANIZATION.

AND OBVIOUSLY I WANT THE BRANDING ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE THAT SIGNIFIES THAT THIS BUILDING IS FOR THIS PURPOSE.

THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS JUST PRIME REAL ESTATE.

I MEAN, IT IS IT'S JUST RIGHT THERE.

IT'S HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE IT.

THEY WON'T SEE THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING TILL THEY DRIVE AROUND IN ORDER TO SEE WHO WE ARE FROM THAT THAT SIDE, WHICH MOST PEOPLE WILL BE COMING FROM THE ACCESS ROAD AND EVEN WILL HAVE PEOPLE STAYING AT THE WEST END HOTEL.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE WANTING PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SEE THAT BUILDING FAIRLY PROMINENTLY.

SO THAT SIGN, THE WAY IT IS ON THE FRONT, THAT VARIANCE WE'RE ASKING FOR, IF THE COUNCIL WAS OPEN TO IT AND APPROVED IT TO PUT THAT EXACT SAME THING ON THE SIDE, RIGHT PLACED, I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS IT WOULD BE WELL BALANCED.

IT WOULD IT WOULD LOOK APPROPRIATE AND FROM A BRANDING STANDPOINT THAT WOULD FEEL GREAT TO US.

BUT WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO ASK FOR TWO LARGE SIGNS ON THE BUILDING.

THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T PRESENT THAT.

SURE. YEAH, YEAH.

THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

YOU KNOW, ONLY THE COMMENT WOULD BE THAT.

YEAH. FOR ME, I MEAN I'M A STICKLER ON SIGNS ARE TO TELL THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS NAME OF THE BUSINESS IS X MARRIAGE.

THAT'S WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT IT LIKE THIS.

AND I DID. I KNOW YOU GOOGLED.

I GOOGLED. JUST REAL QUICK X OH, AND I DIDN'T GET TO EVEN THE R X O M A AND THEN BAM, X O MARRIAGE IS RIGHT THERE.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY SOMEBODY COULD SEE X O MARRIAGE IF THEY'RE CURIOUS AND HAVE ANY PROBLEM FINDING OUT.

SURE. WHO YOU ARE, IT'S CLEARLY THERE.

SO YEAH.

NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IF WE NEED YOU, DIRECTOR.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

COME ON IN, SIR.

CAN YOU FLIP BACK TO THE I THINK IT'S THE EAST ELEVATION, DENNIS.

SURE. OKAY, SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS WAS OPTION B PRESENTED AND IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCIL MIGHT BE LEANING TOWARDS SUPPORTING A LARGER SIGN ON THIS.

ON THIS ELEVATION.

SO SO MY QUESTION IS.

WHAT SORT OF VARIANCES MIGHT THAT CREATE ON THIS FACADE?

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SO WE'VE GOT THE REMAINING MARRIAGE COMPONENT WOULD WOULD MEET THE LETTER SIZE.

SO IT'S REALLY. SO WHAT WHAT ABOUT THE SIGN AREA AND THE SIGN? SO ON THE LEFT, THE PERMITTED BY SIGN ORDINANCE, THOSE ARE THOSE IT WOULD GO OVER.

YOU ARE CORRECT. IT WOULD, I THINK, GO OVER THE PERMITTED AREA, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO SO THAT'S 58FT² FOR AREA 19 FOR WIDTH.

NOW FLIP BACK AND IT'S ONLY 49 ON THAT PARTICULAR FACADE IS WHAT'S ALLOWED.

SO IT WOULD BE AREA VARIANCE AS WELL.

OKAY. SO MAXIMUM HEIGHT VARIANCE AND A SIGN AREA VARIANCE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO I'M SORRY.

I'LL REPEAT MYSELF. SO.

SO. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER LETTER HEIGHT VARIANCE AND ANOTHER SIGN AREA VARIANCE.

WHICH COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH THAT? BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CREATING TWO MORE VARIANCES.

WHY IS THE AREA SO MUCH DIFFERENT HERE? IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S A SIDE OF THE BUILDING VERSUS I ASSUME IT'S CALCULATED BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE FACADE, CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. THE AREA IS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE FACADE WIDTH.

SO. OKAY.

I'M STILL FINE. I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I THINK I THINK THOSE TWO SIGNS MIRROR TOGETHER.

I'M FINE WITH THAT. I AM TOO.

I WOULD RATHER HAVE THEM BE THE SAME, HONESTLY.

AND THEY'RE NOT OBNOXIOUS.

36 IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE ON OTHER BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA, LIKE TRENDY INVESTORS, LIKE BIERI ATHLETICS.

I WOULD RATHER SEE TWO SIGNS THAT SAY THE SAME THING VERSUS ONE THAT SAYS.COM OR ONE THAT JUST SAYS ECHO, AND NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT THAT IS.

SO I'M OKAY WITH GIVING THEM 58 WHEN IT SHOULD BE 49.

IT'S STILL PLENTY OF ROOM.

IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK IT'LL LOOK OKAY IN MY OPINION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL.

OKAY, SO LET'S GO SIGN BY SIGN.

SO WE'RE SAYING ON THE EAST ELEVATION.

WE'RE GOING TO.

THE XO MARRIAGE SIGN WITH XO AT 36 AND MARRIAGE AT 18.

CORRECT? IS THAT RIGHT? ON THE EAST ELEVATION AND ON THE WEST ELEVATION OR ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION? IT'S THE SAME THING, WHICH DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY VARIANCES.

CORRECT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, MAYOR, IS THAT 18 OR 24? DENNIS I THINK IT'S 24.

I THINK IT'S 36 OR 20.

WELL, RIGHT HERE. NO, IT'S 36 AND 18, SO IT'S 36 AND 18.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID. I SAID, NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY.

SO, OKAY, SO THE SAME SIGN, SAME SIZE GOES ON THE EAST AND THE SOUTH.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE IT SOUNDS LIKE A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WOULD ACCEPT THE SCULPTURE SIGN WITHOUT THE TWO MONUMENT SIGNS.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? SPLITTING THE BABY COUNCILMAN SOLOMON OVER THERE.

I KNOW. I'M LOOKING AT HIM.

COUNCILMAN. SO I'M NOT A FAN OF THE SCULPTURE.

APPARENTLY MADE THAT VERY, VERY CLEAR LAST MEETING.

BUT IF THAT'S THE IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU GUYS WANT TO GO, I DO FEEL BETTER ABOUT THAT BEING INTERIOR TO THE SITE VERSUS THE MONUMENT SIGNS.

AND I AGREE, I'M NOT A FAN OF IT EITHER, BUT I'LL I'LL GO ALONG TO SAY GOODBYE TO THE MONUMENT SIGNS.

I AGREE. IT'S THE LEAST.

I MEAN, YEAH.

OKAY. SO DID I CATCH EVERYTHING? WELL, WE NEED TO CLARIFY ON THE MONEY SIGNS THEN, BECAUSE THERE WERE VARIANCES.

OH, EXCUSE ME. NO, WE. WE'RE NOT DOING THE MONUMENT SIGNS.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. WHAT? ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, SIR.

WHAT IS THE SCULPTURE INTENDED TO BE CONSTRUCTED? FROM WHAT MATERIALS? IT'S ALUMINUM.

WE HAVE A WHOLE PACKET WITH IT.

SORRY. IT'S. IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY HIGH QUALITY ALUMINUM.

WE HAVE VERBIAGE HERE.

IS IT GOING TO BE POLISHED LIKE THAT? YES. OKAY. IT WILL BE.

IT'S GOING TO THAT LANDSCAPING IS NOT REALLY OUT OF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IS THAT KIND OF LANDSCAPING AROUND IT, A HIGH QUALITY SIGNAGE.

THIS WILL BE IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE MONUMENT.

I MEAN, SCULPTURE MONUMENT SIGN FOR US.

AND SO THAT WE'RE NOT CUTTING COSTS ON IT.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT FEATURE FOR US.

SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE IN THE RENDERING, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT'S GOING TO BE EXACT PERFECT MATCH, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY CLOSE.

WE WANT IT TO BE THAT CLOSE.

AND. AND HEY, GUYS, GUYS.

AND WHAT WHAT SORT OF LIGHTING IS THAT GOING TO HAVE? LIKE, WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT? I ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME LIGHTING.

YEAH, WE HAVE IT IN IF YOU GO BACK TO.

OKAY, IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK, MAKE SURE YOU COME TO THE MIC AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

SORRY. SO MY NAME IS SHANA TALLEY AND I'M WITH PARK HILL AND I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR ME.

AND MY ADDRESS IS 3000 INTERNET BOULEVARD, FRISCO.

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SO THE OUR INTENTION TO HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, METAL, YOU KNOW, ALUMINUM METAL TUBES WITH THE LIGHT TUBES, CHANNELS, SO IT'S GOING TO BE GLOW LIGHT IN THE NIGHT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE INTENTION WE HAVE.

OKAY, SO THE TUBE AND THE X IS GOING TO BE THE.

I'M SORRY. SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.

SO IT'S AN ALUMINUM METAL TUBES.

AND THEN YOU WILL SEE THAT THE CHANNEL IS KIND OF TUBE CHANNEL, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LIGHT FIXTURE ON IT.

WE'RE ON THE SIGN. IS THAT GOING TO BE.

I APOLOGIZE. I MIGHT JUST BE MISSING IT.

SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A BORDER.

IT'S GOING TO BE AN OUTLINE OR A BORDER.

YES, IT'S GOING TO BE THE OUTLINE OF THE BORDER.

OKAY. IS THAT IS THAT GOING TO BE LIT AT ALL TIMES AT NIGHT OR WHAT'S THE THOUGHT DURING THE NIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE LIT, BUT, YOU KNOW, DURING THE DAY IT'S GOING TO BE JUST KIND OF LOOKING IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE OTHER PICTURES THAT ARE THERE.

I THINK IF I GO BACK, IT'S GOING TO BE LOOK LIKE.

BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, LIGHT FIXTURE SHOWING ON IT IN THE RENDERING.

OKAY. BUT IF YOU GO BACK THIS ONE, THEN YOU WILL SEE THAT THE WHITE LINE AROUND THE X.

SO THAT'S THE KIND OF OUTLINE FOR.

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE ARLINGTON CAMPUS? THEY HAVE A MONUMENT SCULPTURE, SO IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO LOOK LIKE THAT ONE.

OKAY. I DON'T HAVE THAT EXAMPLE WITH ME, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S OKAY. SO I THINK OKAY, SO IT'S OUTLINING IT'S WHERE THOSE WHITE LINES ARE KIND OF OUTLINING THE CAN WE CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT TURNING THEM OFF AFTER BUSINESS HOURS OR WHEN Y'ALL I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR HOURS ARE GOING TO BE.

I ASSUME CONFERENCES CAN GO LATE.

I'M JUST LIKE AT MIDNIGHT.

IF YOU'RE DRIVING BY, ARE YOU GOING TO SEE THE EXO LIT UP OR CAN WE TURN THOSE OFF BETWEEN CERTAIN HOURS? WE CAN'T. WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED LIKE THE HOURS OF THE SIGNAGE BEING LIT.

TO ME, IT'S MORE OF ALMOST LIKE A SAFETY LIGHT THAT YOU WOULD SEE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BRIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE SORT OF DIM.

IT WOULD BE WE HAVE FOUR POSTS THERE THAT ARE ONE OF THOSE SECURITY POSTS SO PEOPLE CAN'T DRIVE PAST THEM THAT ARE LIT AT NIGHT.

THAT TO ME WOULD BE THE SAME WATTAGE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE SAME VOLUME OF LIGHT.

SO, YES, WE CAN DEFINITELY TURN IT OFF AT CERTAIN TIMES, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BRIGHTLY LIT MONUMENT DISPLAY.

YEAH, WE CAN ADD THIS CONTROL.

I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT CONTROL OF THE LIGHT.

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.

WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

NOT A PROBLEM. WHAT'S REASONABLE BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND 6 A.M.

OR SOMETHING? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

ENOUGH TO WANT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT.

THAT'S NOT AS IMPORTANT.

THE MIDNIGHT TO 6 A.M.

TIME FRAME. SO THAT'S GREAT.

NO LATE NIGHT PARTIES AT EXCEL.

NO, JUST MAKING SURE.

ALL RIGHT. DID YOU DID YOU CONSIDER JUST THE THE SCULPTURE WITH WITH JUST UPLIGHTING, YOU KNOW, FLOOD UPLIGHTING THAT WE HAVE IT.

WE HAVE IT ELECTRICAL.

YEAH, WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SOME LIGHT, YOU KNOW, AROUND THIS EDGE.

ALSO. SO WE HAVE OUR SITE LIGHT BASED ON THE CITY ORDINANCE.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST WE ARE SEEING AS A SCULPTURE.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT ON OTHER DESIGN.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TALKING WITH THE SITE LIGHT OR SECURITY LIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CREATE ANY ILLUSION DURING NIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW.

SO YES, WE WILL HAVE SOME UP LIGHT, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, BUT IT WILL BE LIKE TO FIRST THING IS WE LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE SCULPTURE.

SO, YOU KNOW SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR INTENTION FIRST, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE OTHER LIGHTING IS GOING TO BECOME AROUND WITH THAT DESIGN.

OKAY. DIRECTOR KELLY, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL QUICK? HEY, HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

DO WE HAVE A COROLLARY SIGN TYPE TO WHAT THEY'RE DESCRIBING? LIKE, GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A SIGN THAT'S LIT UP LIKE THIS.

I'M SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING.

I CAN'T THINK OF ONE THAT I COULD SPECIFY.

I'M SURE THAT WE I THINK TOWN SQUARE PROBABLY HAS SOME LIGHTING THAT HAS THE LED OUTLINE ON IT. AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY ONES I CAN THINK OF THAT WE'VE DONE DONE THAT.

ON AS FAR AS THE SIGN WHERE IT HAD AN EXPOSED LED OUTLINE.

WOULD YOU GUYS BE AMENABLE TO LOSING THAT LED OUTLINE AND JUST HAVING THE UPLIGHTS, IS THAT REAL CRUCIAL TO YOUR DESIGN HERE? SO THIS THIS MONUMENT SIGN AGAIN, HAS NOT BEEN BUILT, SO WE CAN DO A LOT WITH IT.

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YEAH, RIGHT. I THINK WHAT SCHNAUZ WAS SAYING WAS THAT THAT THAT LED INSET IS GOING TO HELP TO ILLUMINATE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE BEYOND THE AND CREATE SOME CONTRAST BEYOND WHAT'S HAPPENING BEHIND IT.

SO WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE UP THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SEEN AND NOTICED.

BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT A IT'S NOT A SACRED COW TO HAVE THE LED INSETS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SITTING WELL, I'M JUST HAVING TROUBLE VISUALIZING IT.

IF YOU GUYS WOULD BE OKAY LOSING IT, JUST HAVING THE UP LIGHT ON IT, THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL A LITTLE BETTER.

I'M NOT OFFENDED BY IT.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE REALLY DIMLY LIT LED.

AND I ACTUALLY THINK IT'LL I ACTUALLY THINK IF YOU JUST HAVE THE UP LIGHTS, YOU'LL LOSE SOME OF THE I MEAN THESE MARRIAGE CONFERENCE STARTED USUALLY ON THURSDAYS OR FRIDAY NIGHTS AND THE PEOPLE LEAVE AT DARK.

I FEEL LIKE IT LOSES IT.

I FEEL LIKE IT ALMOST I DON'T KNOW.

FOR ME. YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S CERTAINLY WITH THIS GRAY, IT HELPS CREATE SOME CONTRAST.

AND I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A FREAKING YELLOW ORANGE NEON IN TOWN SQUARE.

YEAH. LIKE I SAID THIS SO THE XO IS.

I KNOW IS IT TRIPS PEOPLE UP BECAUSE THAT IS OUR LOGO, JUST LIKE THE NIKE SWOOSH IS THEIR LOGO.

I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS HOW WE REPRESENT WHO WE ARE.

AND THE OUTLINE OF THIS WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE THE NIKE STORE WENT IN.

I NOTICED THEY PUT THE SWOOSH ABOVE THEIR DOOR AND THAT'S SORT OF A BACKLIT LIGHT AS WELL.

AND IT JUST SORT OF.

PRONOUNCES THAT LOGO, THAT ICON, A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AGAIN, I'M NOT REALLY OKAY WITH WHAT YOU GUYS SAY, BUT I DON'T SEE IT BEING A MASSIVE ISSUE.

YEAH, IT MIGHT NOT BE.

IT'S JUST HARD BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF IT.

IT'S HARD TO VISUALIZE.

I DON'T. DENNIS IS HAVING TROUBLE COMING UP WITH ANOTHER.

SURE. COME ON UP.

YES, SURE. 15 GRAND AVENUE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

WE IN TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WAS MENTIONED LAST TIME ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING LOOKED NICE AND WELL GROOMED.

SO LIKE, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE RENDER, THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL FLOWERS, BUSHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THE UP LIGHTING, WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT EFFECT THAT COULD HAVE ON SHADOWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHEREAS THE INSET LED IS GOING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN EVEN LIGHT.

YEAH, BUT I MEAN, MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE IS JUST SIMPLY, I MEAN, FROM WHERE WE WERE TWO WEEKS AGO TO WHERE WE WERE HERE, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE UP HERE WHO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT A SCULPTURE.

RIGHT. YOU SAW THE WHOLE THING.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GONE FROM.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'VE GOTTEN THERE KIND OF ON THE SCULPTURE AND NOW WE'RE GETTING THERE ON LIGHTING.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE GETTING THERE NOW ON DOUBLE LIGHTING.

YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S LIGHT IT UP AND THEN LET'S INSET LIGHT IT AS WELL.

AND I CAN'T SEE IT.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING. ONCE WE APPROVE IT, IT'S DONE.

IT'S LOCKED IN.

THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SEE IN MOST SITUATIONS IS JUST PLAIN FLOOD UP LIGHTING THAT PROVIDES, YOU KNOW, VISIBILITY. YOU CAN STOP ME AT ANY POINT.

BUT I WOULD JUST SAY AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WHILE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND THIS HAS BEEN A PART OF THE PLANS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, BUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCULPTURE AND WHERE YOU GUYS WERE ON IT AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME ACCOMMODATIONS, WE STOOD OUT THERE AND REALLY, YOU WON'T SEE THIS XO UNLESS YOU'RE DRIVING RIGHT UP ON IT AS YOU'RE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE COMING OUT OF THE WESTERN HOTEL, HEADING TOWARDS OUR BUILDING AND REALLY PULLING INTO THE PARKING LOT BEFORE YOU REALLY NOTICED IT.

SO THIS IS NOT, TO ME GOING TO BE AN EYESORE OR SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TRIPPED UP BY THIS THIS LIGHT ON THE SIGN.

IT REALLY IS MORE OF A MAGNIFICATION OF IT ONCE YOU'RE ON THE PROPERTY, IN MY OPINION.

YEAH. I GUESS I WASN'T FOCUSED ON THIS PIECE OF IT THE FIRST TIME AROUND BECAUSE I'M JUST GENERALLY NOT A FAN OF THIS LOGO AND A FOUNTAIN, BUT I'M NOT A FAN OF THIS.

I MEAN, THE LED THAT'S IN TOWN SQUARE IS SMALL.

IT'S USED ON SIGNAGE OUTSIDE RETAIL DOORS.

IT'S FAR SMALLER THAN THIS.

WE HAVE A SHINY SILVER DRAGON IN TOWN THAT HAS UPLIGHTING.

IT'S EASY TO SEE.

IT'S BIGGER, THE LIGHTING IS BIGGER.

BUT STILL WHEN YOU SHINE LIGHT ON SILVER, YOU CAN SEE IT.

SO TO YOUR POINT, YOU CAN'T SEE IT TILL YOU'RE ON THE PROPERTY.

BUT I DON'T KNOW. I'M WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMSON.

WE CAN'T SEE WHAT IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE.

SO IT'S AND I WILL SAY, AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES, I PROBABLY LIVE A MILE FROM HERE AND I WALK GRACE LANE FREQUENTLY.

YOU CAN SEE THIS SPOT FROM GRACE LANE.

YOU CAN WALK. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT COMPLETELY HIDDEN AT ALL.

I MEAN, IT'S INTERIOR TO THE SITE, BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE INVISIBLE FROM GRACE LANE AT ALL.

AND IT'S JUST HARD WITHOUT, WITHOUT SOMETHING TO SEE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT.

IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO VISUALIZE IT.

I CAN'T I CAN'T COME UP WITH IN MY HEAD ANY SIGN THAT LOOKS SIMILAR? WELL, MY ONLY POINT WAS WE'RE PRETTY REMOTE.

THERE'S NOBODY REALLY AROUND US BESIDES THE WESTIN HOTEL TO TO OUR WEST AND GATEWAY, KIND OF TO THE SOUTH EAST.

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I MEAN, I'D TABLE THIS IF YOU WANT TO US TO APPROVE EVERYTHING, WE COULD TABLE THIS AND YOU CAN BRING BACK RENDERINGS OF WHAT THAT LIGHT MIGHT LOOK LIKE OR, OR WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE A MOTION TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT. WELL, I JUST IF YOU GUYS AREN'T 100% DOGMATIC ON THE ON THE INSET LED LIGHTING, I'M GOING TO BE FINE WITH IT.

WE'RE NOT DOGMATIC ABOUT IT. IT'S NOT A I'M WILLING TO DIE ON.

WE HAVEN'T BUILT IT YET.

WE WE CAN ADJUST TO HOWEVER, WE CAN CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING.

UPLIGHTING IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.

MY ONLY POINT IS, IS THAT I DO THINK THAT THIS THIS LED LIGHTING WILL BE SO SUBTLE.

IT'S NOT A THERE'S OTHER LIGHTS IN THE CITY THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF ON ALL THE TIME AND BRIGHT THAT THAT THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO BE THAT BIG OF A OF AN EYESORE. I THINK THERE'S NO THERE'S NO LIGHTING ON ANY OF THE OTHER SIGNAGE.

CORRECT. NONE OF THE NONE OF THE BUILDING HAS LIGHTS ON IT, PERIOD.

CORRECT. SO THIS IS THE ONLY SIGN THAT HAS ANY PIECE OF LIGHTING TO IT WHATSOEVER? YEAH. OKAY.

HOLD ON, HOLD ON. WE'VE GOT FIVE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS GOING ON.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBINS HAD A QUESTION ONE MORE TIME, SIR.

SO IS ANY OF THE. THERE'S NO BUILDING SIGNAGE THAT'S LIT LIKE IT'S NOT OUTLINED, IT'S NOT BACKLIT WHITE OR ANYTHING IN THE EVENINGS.

IT'S IT'S JUST ON THE ON THE BUILDING.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE BUILDING SIGN IS GOING TO BE BACKLIT.

WHAT WHAT COLOR BECAUSE THEY'RE BLACK ON HERE.

THE FRONT IS BLACK, FRONT IS BLACK.

AND THEN THE LIGHT IS GOING TO BE ENERGY LIGHT.

IT'S A WHITE LIGHT.

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE GLOW.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO ONE OF THE BUILDING SIGNS? SO BECAUSE I CAN TOTALLY ENVISION THIS SIGN OUTLINED IN THE NEON LIGHT OR THE LED LIGHT AND I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW THE LIKE, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT HOW YOUR BACKLIGHTING THAT.

IF. AM I MISSING SOMETHING? DIRECTOR KILO. IS IT BACKLIT? IT'S A BLACK REVERSE.

TURN YOUR MIC ON. REVERSE.

THERE. REVERSE LIT.

SO ON THE BACK SIDE, YOU'D HAVE LED.

THAT SHINES BACK ON THE BUILDING.

AND YOU JUST SEE THE DARK OUTLINE OF THE SIGN.

YEAH. SO REVERSE LIT.

JUST SUBTLE. RIGHT.

OKAY. YEAH. OKAY.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT ON THE SCULPTURE.

TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL CHANNEL CUT LETTER WITH BACKLIGHTING, BUT IT'S NOT BACKLIT BECAUSE IT'S NOT UP AGAINST A WALL.

SO I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH APPROVING IT AND HAVING THE APPLICANT SHOW DIRECTOR KILO AND THE STAFF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

IF IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IT'S A REVERSE CHANNEL CUT BACKLIT LETTER.

AND THAT'S THE THE LOOK AND HAVE THE ADMINISTRATOR MAKE THE FINAL CALL ON THAT.

I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT IF THAT'S OKAY WITH MR TAYLOR AND DIRECTOR KILO CAN MAKE THAT CALL.

IF IT DOESN'T FIT THAT LOOK, THEN HOW DO WE GIVE HIM GUIDANCE ON THAT THOUGH? LIKE, I THINK DIRECTOR KILO CAN MAKE THE CALL ON DOES IT LOOK LIKE IT'S THE SAME AS THE OTHER SIGNS THAT ARE CHANNEL CUT BACKLIT? AND IF IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT WHEN THEY GIVE HIM SOME KIND OF RENDERING? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

LIKE, GIVE ME GIVE ME SOME COROLLARY IN MY HEAD SO I CAN SAY, OKAY, WELL, THIS IS THE KIND OF SIGN IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS IT LOOKING LIKE DISNEYLAND, RIGHT? LIKE WE DON'T WANT BRIGHT NEON LIGHTS.

WHAT WE WANT IS SUBTLE.

AND IF WE CAN GET SOME VISUALIZATION FROM SOME REAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF SIGNS SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT LOOK SIMILAR OR A VIDEO SOMEWHERE ELSE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE PULLING UP TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP VISUALIZE IT.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, PART OF MY CONCERN HERE IS THIS IS A VERY THIS IS A QUIET RESIDENTIAL CORNER OF SOUTHLAKE AND IT'S GOT THE WEST END.

AND YOU GUYS ARE VERY MUCH A TRANSITIONAL KIND OF PIECE TO A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S QUIET AND IT'S RATHER DARK.

ONCE WE GET PAST Y'ALL'S SITE.

AND I'VE JUST GOT, YOU KNOW, WORST CASE SCENARIO IN MY HEAD, THIS KIND OF GLEAMING IN THE IN THE DARKNESS.

SO I JUST WISH I HAD SOMETHING TO SEE.

I'M NOT SAYING I COULDN'T GET COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

I'M JUST SAYING I CAN'T SEE IT.

BUT I DO THINK THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT GETS THAT FEELS LIKE WE'RE ALMOST HOLDING THIS TO A TOTALLY A DIFFERENT STANDARD THAN WHAT THE WEST WAS HELD TO.

THE WEST HAS THE WESTERN HAS MASSIVE NEON LIGHTS THAT CHANGE COLORS EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY AND THEY'RE ALWAYS ON.

AND THIS IS THIS IS AN EIGHT FOOT ECHO, BUT THIS IS A VARIANCE.

I MEAN, THE STANDARD IS THIS SORT OF SIGNS.

IS THAT NOT A VARIANCE FOR THE WEST? IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, BUT I'M SAYING WE'RE CONSIDERING A VARIANCE.

WE'RE NOT HOLDING THEM TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD TO A MUCH A MUCH MORE DIFFERENT STANDARD THAN ACROSS THE STREET AT THIS POINT.

NO, IT'S THE EXACT SAME STANDARD.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR A SIGN THAT'S NOT ALLOWED BY THE ORDINANCE, THE EXACT SAME STANDARD.

I ECHO COUNCILMAN ROBBINS'S COMMENT.

I MEAN, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE BEATING A DEAD HORSE.

TO ME, IT KIND OF I FEEL LIKE A CONCERN MIGHT BE VALID SINCE THIS IS NO FAILURE DIVISION.

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BUT MAYBE THAT'S JUST ME. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT ANYONE'S SAYING.

I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE IT.

HAVE YOU SEEN A PICTURE THAT WOULD SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE? I'VE BEEN SATISFIED WITH WHAT I'VE SEEN.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THE LIGHTS LOOK LIKE.

SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

IS IT SINCE YOU SAID IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET.

SO. WHICH IS GOOD.

DOES THE COMPANY THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE SIGN FROM HAVE A WAY OF PRODUCING YOU A NIGHTTIME RENDERING OF WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE OR SOME SIMILAR SIGN THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT? I THINK THE COMPANY THEY'RE WORKING WITH, THEY HAVE SOME RENDERINGS.

WE COULD DEFINITELY BRING BACK IMAGERY AND RENDERS THAT THAT WOULD BE OF HELP TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I THINK SOMEBODY SUGGESTED I'D JUST BE MORE COMFORTABLE SEEING IT. LET'S TABLE JUST THAT ONE PIECE SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING YOUR OTHER SIGNS ORDERED.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM ON THAT, I THINK.

I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO TABLE, LIKE I SAID FIVE MINUTES AGO, I'M HAPPY TO TABLE JUST THIS PIECE IF YOU WANT.

OR WE COULD LOSE THE LEDS.

AND THAT'S HOW I'M COMFORTABLE. BUT I MEAN, IT'S UP TO SEVEN PEOPLE.

SO IF Y'ALL WANT TO TABLE IT AND BRING US SOMETHING BACK AND SEE IF WE GET COMFORTABLE THERE, I DON'T MIND LOOKING AT IT AGAIN.

I'D LOVE TO CHEW ON THIS FOR A THIRD.

I THINK WE'RE STRIVING FOR A70 VOTE WHEN YOU KNOW YOU NEED FOUR.

IF YOU FEEL I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH THE WITH WITH THE LED LIGHTS.

JUST JUST TO MAYBE SET EVERYONE'S MIND AT EASE.

THE LED LIGHTS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE A LIKE A BEACON OF LIGHT COMING OUT.

IT'S MEANT TO BE A SUBTLE, ALMOST LIKE A SAFETY LIGHT.

WHENEVER YOU SEE ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SHIELD IN FRONT OF AN LED LIGHT.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE SUBTLE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN IT UP.

IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE COLORS.

IT'S MEANT TO BE SORT OF THIS BACK LIT FEATURE THAT WILL ONLY COME ON AT NIGHT.

SO YOU'LL ONLY SEE IT AT NIGHT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AND WE CAN SET OURS TO IT.

SURE. I THINK THAT THAT TO ME FEELS LIKE A VERY HAPPY MEDIUM OF SAYING LIKE, WE WILL, WE WILL BE CONSTRICTED TO.

SO SO IS YOUR CHOICE.

DO YOU WANT TO DO YOU WANT TO.

LEAVE IT ALONE TO SEE HOW IT GOES AND ASK FOR THE LEDS.

OR DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO TABLE THIS AND BRING IT BACK? I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR THE WAY WE'VE PROPOSED IT.

PERFECT. AND SEE AND LET JUST SO WITH THAT CAVEAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT AND THAT THE LIGHT IS GOING TO BE ADJUSTED TO HOW THE CITY WANTS. SO IF IT'S TOO BRIGHT, WE CAN TURN IT DOWN.

IF IT'S ON TOO LONG, WE CAN WE CAN TURN IT OFF.

PERFECT. OKAY.

YES, MA'AM. ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE MONUMENT SIGNS.

GOING BACK TO THAT FOR THE SAKE OF.

SURE. YOU WANT TO REOPEN THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

HEAR ME OUT JUST A MOMENT.

IF WE WERE TO DO LIKE 1021 GRACE LANE, WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO REFERENCE TO XO.

XO MEMBERS.COM. NOTHING FOR THE SAKE OF AN UBER DRIVER OR DOORDASH WHO YES.

IS VERY MUCH USED TO THAT OR IN THAT SPACE FOR DELIVERIES FOR FIRST TIME VISITORS.

FOR SOMEONE THAT MIGHT NOT BE AS KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE AREA, THAT IT'S JUST SIMPLY FOR LIKE A MARKER FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE EASILY.

I WOULD ASK FOR CONSIDERATION ABOUT THAT ON THE GRACE LANE.

WE'LL SEE HOW THE MOTION GOES AND IF IT'S INCLUDED IN THERE.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, Y'ALL? NOW THAT COULD BE TABLED TO THE NEXT TIME IS THE MONUMENT.

I WOULD TABLE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, GUYS. APPRECIATE Y'ALL STICKING WITH US.

OKAY, COUNCIL, FURTHER DISCUSSION.

JUST ONE OTHER ITEM, AND THAT IS AS IT RELATES TO THE SCULPTURE.

DENNIS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THOSE MEASUREMENTS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY WE'RE CHASING SO MANY RABBITS HERE.

LET'S MAKE SURE WE DON'T MISS ANYTHING.

YEAH. SO.

SO THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING EIGHT FEET AND A HALF SIGN HEIGHT IN A PLANTER THAT LOOKS LIKE IT SITS.

THREE FEET OFF THE GROUND.

SO NOW THAT SITE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING.

THAT'S A THAT'S AN 11 FOOT TALL SIGN THERE.

IF IT'S.

WELL, ISN'T THERE A DIMENSION ON THAT PICTURE ON THE RIGHT? THERE HE IS. SHOULD BE AT GRADE ON THE OUTER EDGE OF THAT PLANTER.

OKAY. SO IT IS INCLUDING I SEE THAT NOW THE TOP OF THE O OR X, SO THAT'S EIGHT FOOT SIX.

AND THEN. THEY ARE SAYING THE LETTER SIZE IS SIX FOOT.

AND THAT.

I WOULD SAY THAT PLANNER COULD BE VERY CLOSE TO THE TWO FOOT.

THAT'S A VERY SHORT MAN WALKING NEXT TO IT, OBVIOUSLY.

YES. SO JUST WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE OF THAT AND JUST CHEW ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT HERE, SO MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH A 8.5FT HIGH SIGN THERE.

THOUGHTS COUNCIL. I'M JUST NOT GOOD WITH IT IF THE LED STAYS.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

SIZE WISE, THOUGH, YOU'RE OKAY, THOUGH.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, I MEAN, I WASN'T A FAN OF IT TO BEGIN WITH, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOSING THE MONUMENT SIGNS, I WAS OKAY WITH IT.

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I MEAN, I'M PREPARED TO VOTE SO ON EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THE MONUMENT SIGNS, BUT I JUST CAN'T VISUALIZE THE LEDS.

SO I'M OUT ON THAT AS WELL.

I'M FINE WITH THE PROPOSED SIZE AND THE LEDS DITCHING THE MONUMENT SIGNS AND EXO MARRIAGE ON BOTH SIDES. SO MY RECOMMENDATION, MAYOR, IS IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION WITH AS PRESENTED WITH THE IN LIGHTS AND THE UP LIGHT FLOODS AND ALL THE CHANGES WE MADE AND LET'S SEE IF IT'S AN UP OR DOWN.

IF IT'S A DOWN, THEN WE CAN MAKE A SECOND MOTION, WHICH IS JUST WITH THE UP LIGHTS AND NO INSIDE.

SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WHOEVER MAKES THAT FIRST MOTION HAS EVERYTHING.

YEAH. AND JUST TO CONFIRM, ON THE SOUTH AND EAST ELEVATIONS, WE'D BE DOING THE WORDS EX MARRIAGE WITH EXO BEING 36IN AND MARRIAGE BEING 18IN ON SOUTH AND EAST AND A SIGN AREA OF 58FT².

I THINK THAT'S ALREADY BUILT IN THOUGH, RIGHT? OKAY. AND THOSE ARE REVERSE LIT.

IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, I THINK THAT'S BUILT INTO THE STAFF REPORT, TOO, ON THOSE.

GOT IT. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION WITH THE LIGHTS, THEY SAID THEY WERE GOOD TURNING THEM OFF BETWEEN I THINK THEY SAID 12 AND SIX.

SO AT LEAST PUT THAT IN THERE, PLEASE.

DID DO. WE ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE IN THE MOTION THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THE CITY.

SHOULD WE THINK THAT THE LIGHTING WAS TOO BRIGHT? THEY DID. THEY DID MENTION THE APPLICANT MENTIONED THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH US IF WE THOUGHT IT WAS TOO BRIGHT.

DENNIS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN INCLUDE IN A MOTION? YES, IT COULD.

YES. HOW DO YOU WANT TO WORD THAT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE? UM, LIKE, I'M NOT SURE WHO MAKES WHO BRINGS THE ISSUE TO THE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S ENFORCEABLE.

THE INHERENT DIFFICULTY IS SIMPLY BECOME A JUDGMENT CALL.

THEY CAN TAILOR THEY CAN PUT A COMMITMENT INTO THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH THE CITY IN ATTEMPTING TO TO HAVE A LIGHT LEVEL THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.

BUT WE ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S NOT AN EMPIRICAL STANDARD IN THE MOTION.

SO WE COULDN'T GO IN AND CITE THEM FOR IT OR DO SOMETHING SPECIFIC.

WE WOULD SIMPLY HAVE TO COME BACK AND REVISIT THE SIGN APPROVAL.

SO BUT TO BE CLEAR, IF SOMEONE COMPLAINED AND SAID IT'S TOO BRIGHT AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE DON'T THINK IT'S TOO BRIGHT.

THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.

THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S A MEANINGLESS PROVISION.

YOU MIGHT AS WELL NOT INCLUDE IT, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. HOW DO WE EVEN WORD THAT TO.

I MEAN, WE LOSE CONTROL OF IT.

THAT'S THE REALITY. WE DON'T WE DON'T SEE A RENDERING.

WE'RE LOSING CONTROL OF IT.

AND IF WE IF EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN SO BE IT.

ARE YOU ALL READY? MAYOR COUNCIL.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NINE.

A CASE NUMBER 23 0004.

SIGN VARIANTS FOR MARRIAGE LOCATED AT 1021 GRACE LANE IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED APRIL 11TH, 2023, NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING THE SCULPTURE SIGN AS PRESENTED, INCLUDING WITH THE LED OUTLINE LIGHTING, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO TURN OFF BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND 6 A.M.

ALSO NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING FOR THE SOUTH ELEVATION AND THE EAST ELEVATION, THE WORDS MARRIAGE WITH X0 IN 36IN AND MARRIAGE IN 18IN.

WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE OTHER OPTIONS PRESENTED FOR THE EAST ELEVATION, NOTING THAT WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE TWO MONUMENT SIGNS REQUESTED ALONG GRACE LANE AND KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD AS PRESENTED.

AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

SO GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OKAY. ITEM EIGHT. ITEM NINE PASSES FOR THREE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE B, WHICH IS SB 23 0006 SIGN VARIANCE FOR FLEX RESERVE LOCATED AT 415 SOUTH KIMBALL AVENUE,

[9.B. SV23-0006, Sign Variance for Flexeserve, located at 415 S. Kimball Avenue, Suite 160 (Suite B), Southlake, TX. ]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. ANY LED CHANNELS IN THIS ONE, SIR.

NO, NO.

MAYOR KURT ANY LED CHANNELS, SIR.

CONTINUE, PLEASE. SORRY.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 415 SOUTH KIMBALL AVENUE AND IS IN SUITE ONE 60.

THIS IS IN PINNACLE POINT OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT IS THE FAR NORTHEAST BUILDING LOCATED ON THAT PROPERTY. TENANT SPACE CIRCLED IN AND SHOWN IN THE RED SQUARE.

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THERE IS A VARIANCE ASSOCIATED WITH AN ATTACHED SIGN AND THEN A COUPLE OF VARIANCES WITH REGARDS TO WINDOWS SIGNAGE, GRAPHICS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING ON THE BUILDING. THIS IS THE PROPOSED ATTACHED SIGN.

AND FOR THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON LETTER SIZE IN PARTICULAR FOR THE LOWERCASE F AND L, WHICH EXCEED THE MAXIMUM 14 INCH LETTER HEIGHT PERMITTED AND ARE AT 21IN.

THIS IS WHAT THAT SIGN WOULD LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT.

THIS IS A REVERSE LIT LED CHANNEL CHANNEL LETTER.

DENNIS, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE? SURE. IS THAT IS THAT THE SAME THAT RENDERING? IS THAT THE SAME AS THE ONE YOU WENT TO LIT UP AT NIGHT? IT LOOKS DIFFERENT SIZE WISE AND LIKE THERE'S A LOGO MISSING OR.

UH, YEAH, THERE'S A I GUESS THAT TM AT THE TOP DOESN'T SHOW UP ON THE VERY WELL ON THE NIGHT VERSION AND THAT THE CENTER.

THE CENTER ORANGE LETTER.

WHAT'S THE BIG BLACK BALL ON THE LEFT? WELL, THAT'S JUST A LABEL FOR THE SIGN REFERENCE.

IT'S NOT PART OF THE SIGN.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A LOGO. OKAY.

NOW, I SHOULD HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

THAT THAT'S JUST A CORRELATION WITH THE PLAN VIEW AND SIGN LOCATIONS THAT WERE BEING REFERENCED.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND, TOO, THAT FONT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE ON THE ON THE RENDERING, IS THAT THE PERMITTED OR IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR? THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.

OKAY. AND THE F AND L OR AT THE 21 INCH IT, THE OTHER LOWERCASE LETTERS ARE AT 15 INCH. SO LIKEWISE, THOSE ARE OKAY OUTSIDE OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE 14 INCH.

AND THIS IS WHAT THE NIGHT VIEW WOULD BE.

AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE WINDOW GRAPHICS ON THE TWO FACADES THAT REQUIRE THE VARIANCE.

THE SIGN ORDINANCE RESTRICTS ANY WINDOW SIGNAGE THAT WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, ANY MESSAGE.

ADVERTISING OR GRAPHICS CANNOT EXCEED 10% OF THE CUMULATIVE AREA OF WINDOWS ON EACH FACADE OF THE TENANT SPACE.

AND THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS IN COMPLIANCE.

BUT AS I SAID, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE OTHERS THAT GO OUTSIDE OF THE 10%.

THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION, WHICH IT EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM 10% PERMITTED AND IS AT JUST UNDER 19%.

AT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THEY ASKED THEM TO BRING BACK OPTIONS OF THOSE SIGNS THAT WERE WITHIN COMPLIANCE OF THE 10%.

SO FOR THAT EAST ELEVATION, THIS IS WHAT THAT GRAPHIC ELEMENT IN THE WINDOW WOULD LOOK LIKE AT THE 10%.

SO THAT'S.

EXCEEDING 10%, AND THAT IS WITH 10%.

LIKEWISE ON THE SOUTH OR EXCUSE ME, NORTH ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING.

THIS IS THE GRAPHICS PROPOSED ON THESE TWO WINDOW ELEMENTS.

IT'S JUST UNDER 29%.

AND THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF IT WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE 10%.

THE SIGN BOARD INITIALLY TOOK A VOTE ON IT.

AND WE HAVE SIX MEMBERS ON THE ON THE SIGN BOARD RIGHT NOW.

AND THEY WERE SPLIT THREE THREE WITH HALF OF THEM APPROVING THE VARIANCE RELATED TO THE WINDOW GRAPHICS.

AND THEY WERE OKAY WITH THE WITH THE ATTACHED SIGN AND LETTER SIZE.

AND THE OTHER HALF OF THE BOARD DID NOT WANT THE VARIANCE GRANTED ON THE WINDOW GRAPHICS.

THEY ENTERTAINED A SECOND MOTION AND CONCLUDED FIVE ONE THAT THEY WOULD APPROVE THE ATTACHED BUILDING SIGN, BUT

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AND ONCE AGAIN, AS THEY BRING OPTIONS FORWARD TO THE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR REFER BACK TO ANY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION SIGN ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SIGNS IN TOWN THAT HAVE A TRADEMARK LOGO IN THEIR SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING? I CAN'T. I CANNOT RECALL ONE.

UNLESS THEY'RE MUCH MORE SUBTLE AND YOU CAN'T REALLY VIEW THAT.

IT IS SORT OF A STRANGE ADDITION.

YEAH, THAT'S STRANGE TO ME.

BUT THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS, WITH THESE ARROWS, DOES THIS MEAN SOMETHING TO THEM? IS THIS A PART OF THEIR BRAND? IS IT TRYING TO POINT PEOPLE TO THE DOOR? WE CAN ASK THE APP. LET'S ASK THE APPLICANT.

OKAY. YEAH.

AND. OKAY. THIRD QUESTION.

SORRY. I GUESS I MISSED. WHERE IS THIS? WELCOME TO THE HOME OF HOT AND COLD.

IS THAT A DOOR SIGN? YES. YEAH, THESE ARE THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE WINDOW SIGNAGE OF THE PERCENTAGE INCLUDED THERE.

AND YES, THEY ARE.

YOU CAN'T SEE THEM VERY WELL IN THIS, BUT THOSE ARE LOCATED RIGHT HERE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. HORAK. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? COME ON DOWN, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD EVENING. COLE CARNEY 2865 MARKET LOOP.

SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

WELL. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE, I WANTED TO NOTE RIGHT OFF THAT THIS RIGHT HERE, THE ONE THAT'S JUST THE THE OR NOT THE BRAND, THE LABEL.

WE GOT THAT SIGN. WE GOT THAT ONE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S SO CLOSE.

TALK TO US ABOUT THE TRADEMARK, THE TM, THAT'S THE TM.

SO THE CUSTOMER HAD IT ADDED.

IT IS PART OF THEIR BRAND.

IT WILL BE LET'S SEE, IT WILL BE NOT ILLUMINATED.

IT'LL JUST BE A FLAT CUT OUT ACRYLIC.

HEY, LOOK AT THAT. A RENDERING OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT NIGHT.

HEY, YOU LIKE THAT? THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

IT LOOKS GREAT. LET ME SEE HERE.

SO, YEAH, SO IT'S 21 INCH OVERALL HEIGHT LETTERS FOR THE F AND THE L.

I KNOW THE.

MAC'S LETTER HEIGHT IS 14 INCH, WHICH A MAJORITY OF THESE ARE ALMOST AT.

SO REALLY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP THESE AT 21.

AND IF WE'RE FORCED TO GO SMALLER THAN THAT AND WE FORCE THESE LETTERS DOWN TO 6 TO 5IN TALL, WE MOST LIKELY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FABRICATE THIS TO BE ILLUMINATED.

YEAH, I'M FINE WITH YOUR AREAS.

SO IS A THIRD OF WHAT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE IS.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT VARIANCE COUNCIL? OKAY. OKAY.

SO TALK TO US ABOUT THE WINDOW SIGNS.

SO THE WINDOW SIGNS.

IT IS PART OF THEIR BRAND.

IT WAS PART OF THE BRAND BOOK, SO WE ADDED IT.

WE WERE ABLE TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE ON THAT SOUTH ELEVATION.

AND WE TRIED TO KEEP IT UNIFORM ACROSS THAT FIRST OPTION ON ALL SIDES.

SO IF WE GO HERE, WE KIND OF HAVE HAVE LIKE THE SAME SIZE.

IT LOOKS PROPORTIONATE TO THE SOUTH ELEVATION.

AND WE DID THE SAME THING ON THE NORTH ELEVATION.

AND OF COURSE, THE DECISION WAS SPLIT IN THE SIGNBOARD.

SO WE CAME BACK WITH AN OPTION TO TO BASICALLY JUST.

BE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES.

ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? IS YOUR APPLICANT GOOD WITH THAT? BEING WITHIN THE GUIDELINES.

WHAT ARE THEY POINT TO? AND WHAT IS FLEX ESSER? I'M JUST CURIOUS. WHAT'S THE BUSINESS? WELL, THESE RIGHT HERE.

OH, WHAT IS THE BUSINESS? YEAH.

WHAT DID THEY. WHAT DOES FLEX FLEX DESERVE? A HOT HOLDINGS COMPANY.

GO ON. THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO DESCRIBE THAT, BECAUSE IT TOOK HER A WHILE TO DESCRIBE IT TO ME AS WELL.

THINK OF VENUES OR ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS.

MOVIE THEATERS WHERE YOU HAVE POPCORN OR COLD DRINKS, HOT FOODS.

THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT IS WHAT THEY DEAL IN.

SO IT'S EQUIPMENT? YES.

OKAY. I JUST GOOGLED IT.

IT'S LIKE BIG NOT REFRIGERATOR BECAUSE IT'S HOT FOOD, BUT IT HOLDS THE FOOD IN IT.

SO. YEAH.

LIKE YOUR SELECTION OF FOOD.

LIKE A BIG, MUCH BIGGER VERSION OF, LIKE, A WARMING KIND OF WARMING.

YEAH. SOMETHING OR OTHER.

RIGHT. OKAY. WELCOME TO THE HOME OF HOT OR COLD.

THE POINTED ARROWS OR.

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OR IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT WAS PART OF THEIR BRANDING GUIDELINE BOOK THAT THEY GAVE US.

AND THESE ARROWS I DON'T KNOW.

THESE THESE ARROWS HERE, THEY POINT ACTUALLY TOWARDS THE MAIN ENTRY DOOR RIGHT HERE.

AND IF YOU GO TO THE EAST ELEVATION, THESE ARROWS INTENTIONALLY POINT TOWARDS THAT MAIN ENTRY DOOR AS WELL.

AND THEN ON THE NORTH ELEVATION, THOUGH, THESE ARE THE.

TEAM ENTRANCES.

THEY STILL POINT TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF THAT MAIN FRONT ENTRY DOOR.

SO FOR DIRECTIONALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE, I WAS GOING TO SAY COVERED THIS WHOLE FRONT DOOR THING, NOT FEEL OBVIOUS, LIKE THE FRONT DOOR TWOSOME.

SO, SO, SO TELL.

OKAY. SO SAY IT AGAIN. BUT YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH JUST APPROVING THE 10% ALLOWED? YES, SIR. OKAY.

WHY DON'T WE. WHY DON'T WE STAY THERE? WE GO WITH THAT. I LIKE IT.

ALL RIGHT. IS THE I'M ALL I'M ALL VARIANTS OUT TONIGHT.

YEAH. IS THE COLOR ON THESE ORANGE ON THE E THE FLEX E SERVE LOOKS RED IN SOME RENDERINGS.

IT LOOKS ORANGE AND OTHER RENDERINGS ALREADY GOT A RED LETTER AND ORANGE SIGNS.

OR IS IT ORANGE? DOES IT MATCH? IT IS AN ORANGE.

THE EXACT COLOR IS.

I CAN FIND IT.

NOT THAT WAY.

HANG ON. IT LOOKS RED THERE TO ME.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST THE LIGHTING, BUT IT LOOKS ORANGE ON THE BUILDING.

THERE'S ORANGE ALL OVER THEIR WEBSITE.

SO I'M NOT I'M JUST GOING TO THROW THIS OUT THERE.

ARE YOU STUCK ON HAVING THE TRADEMARK LOGO? I GUESS I'M STILL HUNG UP ON WHY DO WE HAVE A TRADEMARK LOGO ON THE OUTSIDE OF A BUILDING? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN TOWN WITH REGISTERED TRADEMARKS AND I DON'T SEE THEM ON SIGNAGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER SEEN IT ON ANY BUILDING EVER, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT WAS JUST IT WAS REQUESTED BY THE CUSTOMER.

AND I JUST WANT TO DO MY BEST TO PLEASE THEM.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF THEY WANT IT.

IT'S FINE. IT'S NOT A VARIANCE REQUIRED.

RIGHT? OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? NO, THAT'S IT. QUESTIONS? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.

I'LL CALL YOU BACK UP. OKAY.

COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE GOOD WITH THE 10%.

AND IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HEIGHT.

I DON'T. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HEIGHT.

OKAY. JUST. I'M THROWING IT OUT THERE ONE MORE TIME.

TRADEMARK TO ME SEEMS VERY SIMILAR TO.COM.

THEY'RE ADVERTISING THAT THEY'VE TRADEMARKED THEIR NAME AND TO ME IT FEELS A LITTLE IT FEELS A LITTLE SALESY OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T GET OVER IT.

I DON'T I'VE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE.

AND MAYBE I'M JUST MAYBE IT'S LATE AND I'M JUST DONE WITH SIGNS.

BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THE HECK ANYBODY WOULD PUT TRADEMARK ON THE OUTSIDE OF THEIR BUILDING.

AND IT FEELS LIKE AN ADVERTISEMENT TO ME NOT TELLING SOMEBODY WHERE THE NAME OF THEIR BUSINESS IS, BUT THAT'S ME.

AGREED. I'D TAKE THAT OUT.

I DON'T GET IT. YEAH, I'M GOOD EITHER WAY, BUT I'M FINE TAKING IT OUT.

DO WE KNOW IF THE APPLICANT IS OKAY WITH TAKING IT OUT? THIS IS THEIR BRAND.

THEY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE IT HERE.

COME ON DOWN. COME ON DOWN TO THE MIC.

I FEEL LIKE WE JUST ASKED YOU THIS, BUT WE WILL ASK YOU IT AGAIN.

HOW DOES THE APPLICANT FEEL ABOUT TAKING THE TRADEMARK? THEY WOULD PREFER TO KEEP IT ON THEIR.

IT WAS PART OF THEIR BRANDING.

AND WE HAVE WE'VE FABRICATED AND INSTALLED SIGNS, MAYBE NOT IN SOUTHLAKE, BUT ACROSS THE DFW AREA WHERE THE TEAM HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT.

OKAY, SO.

SO YOU'VE DONE THIS BEFORE? YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. IT IS ON THEIR WEBSITE.

IT IS ON THERE LIKE EVERY NOT EVERY WELL.

IT'S ON THERE A LOT.

THE TEAM. OKAY, THANKS.

SO I'M FINE WITH IT.

THEY WANT IT. THEY GET IT.

I SUPPOSE THAT'S HOW WE ROLL.

MAYOR'S A LITTLE BIT IRRITATED.

I ALSO DON'T LIKE THE WINDOW SIGNS.

I COULD TOTALLY KILL THE WINDOW SIGNS.

I'M NOT A FAN.

WELL, NO, I'M NOT IRRITATED.

I JUST. YOU KNOW, WE.

IT'S IMPORTANT WE TREAT THESE APPLICANTS THE SAME.

LAST APPLICANT GOT A LOT OF THE BRANDING THAT THEY ASKED FOR, AND THIS APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR THIS BRANDING.

SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, IS THE 10%, DENNIS, IS THAT IS THAT WITHIN GUIDELINE OR WITHIN AN ORDINANCE OR IS THAT STILL A VARIANCE? NO, THE IF THEY KEEP THE WINDOW SIGNS ALL ALL THE SIGNS OTHER THAN THOSE THAT ARE EXEMPTED LIKE AN OPEN SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THE GRAPHICS WITHIN 10% OF THE TOTAL WINDOW AREA ON THAT FACADE, THEY ARE COMPLIANT.

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SO DOES THAT NEED TO BE IN THE MOTION? FOR MAYBE CLARIFICATION, SAY DENYING THE REQUESTED VARIANCE FOR GOING OVER THE 10% AND ALLOWING THEM IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.

GOT IT. CAN'T HURT TO HAVE IT.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE'LL TAKE A MOTION. YES, MAYOR.

COUNCIL. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

ITEM NINE B, OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS OF 20 3-0006 SIGN VARIANTS FOR FLEXI SERV LOCATED AT 415 SOUTH KIMBALL AVENUE, SUITE ONE 60, SUITE B SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS SUBJECT TO STAFF REPORT DATED APRIL 11TH, 2023, NOTING THAT WE ARE APPROVING THE LETTER HEIGHT VARIANCE AS PRESENTED TONIGHT FOR THE ATTACHED BUILDING SIGN AS PRESENTED. AND THEN WE ARE DENYING THE REQUESTED VARIANCES ON THE EAST AND NORTH ELEVATION ELEVATION WINDOW AREAS, RATHER APPROVING THE 10% ALLOWABLE AREA IN THE WINDOWS OF THE EAST AND NORTH ELEVATION.

IS THAT OKAY, DENNIS? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, MOVE. MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTE.

ALL RIGHT, ITEM NINE, B PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU, GUYS. AND THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

SO WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.