Apr 25, 2023 SPIN Town Hall Forum

[1. Call to Order: Video Introduction of SPIN Program by Southlake Mayor John Huffman]

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GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK FLORES AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE ALLIANCE FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE.

AND ONE OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS A COMMITTEE IS TO HOST SPIN TOWN HALL FORUMS. THE PURPOSE OF SPIN IS TO GAIN FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS ON DEVELOPMENT RELATED PROJECTS AND OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SPIN IS AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING.

NO VOTES ARE TAKEN.

SPIN IS STREAMED LIVE THROUGH SOUTHLAKE TV ON THE CITY'S MAIN WEBSITE.

CITYOFSOUTHLAKE.COM. AFTER APPLICANT PRESENTATIONS, THOSE IN ATTENDANCE WITH QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS CAN USE THE MICROPHONES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE AISLE FOR THE QUESTION AND ANSWER PORTION OF THE MEETING.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENDANCE AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATIONAL MEETING.

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL SHOW A BRIEF VIDEO INTRODUCTION OF THE SPIN PROGRAM BY SOUTHLAKE MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN.

GOOD EVENING. I'M SOUTHLAKE MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT'S SPIN TOWN HALL FORUM.

THE ITEMS PRESENTED AT SPIN REPRESENT IDEAS OFTEN IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THIS CONVERSATION STARTS HERE FIRST WITH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPER.

THERE ARE NO VOTES TAKEN AT SPIN AND NO DECISIONS ARE MADE.

SPIN IS SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE.

AND ONCE THE MEETING IS OVER, BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ARE PROVIDED WITH A SPIN MEETING REPORT THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE DISCUSSION FROM TONIGHT. WE TAKE YOUR IMPRESSIONS AND QUESTIONS INTO ACCOUNT WHEN CONSIDERING ANY ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE US FURTHER ALONG IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION TO HELPING MAKE SOUTHLAKE A BETTER PLACE.

HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

IN ADDITION, WE HAVE DEVELOPED AN ONLINE SPIN FORM FOR RESIDENTS TO SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO ATTEND.

AT THE END, I WILL READ THESE SUBMISSIONS AFTER THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR QUESTIONS ASKED AND HAVE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK.

AND WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR APPLICANTS PRESENTATIONS.

VANESSA MACEL, ARE YOU PRESENT? VERY GOOD. MRS.

[2. SPIN2023-08 - An applicant is proposing an approximately 75,000 sq. ft. retail building for Floor & Decor located at 2185 E. Southlake Blvd. within SPIN Neighborhood #8.]

AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN APPROXIMATELY 75,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDING FOR FLOOR & DECOR, LOCATED AT 2185 EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

MRS. MACEL, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

GOOD EVENING. SORRY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SET UP HERE.

OKAY. MY NAME IS VANESSA MACEL.

I AM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR FLOOR & DECOR.

I AM JOINED HERE TONIGHT BY OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND PARTNERS, BILL DAHLSTROM WITH JACKSON WALKER, VICTORIA MORRIS, ALSO WITH JACKSON WALKER, PHILIP COCHRAN WITH FLOOR & DECOR.

HE IS THE DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND COLLEEN DARWIN, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE FOR FLOOR & DECOR.

SO WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED FLOOR & DECOR PROJECT IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

FLOOR & DECOR IS A NATIONAL RETAILER OF HARD SURFACE FLOORING, MATERIALS AND ACCESSORIES.

WE WERE FOUNDED IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA IN 2000 AND WE HAVE ABOUT 194 STORES IN MOST IN MOST METRO MARKETS NATIONWIDE, IN EACH FLOOR & DECOR LOCATION, TYPICALLY STOCKS ABOUT 1,000,000FT² OF FLOORING PRODUCTS WITH AN AVERAGE TICKET PRICE OF ABOUT $500 PER CUSTOMER.

AND WE OFFER FREE DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE DIY ERS WHO ARE COMING IN TO DO A BATHROOM REMODEL OR AN OFFICE UPGRADE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

WE HAVE A STAFF OF PROFESSIONALS AT EVERY STORE LOCATION TO SUPPORT YOU AND YOUR DESIGN EFFORTS AT AND CONTRACTORS MAKE UP ABOUT 60% OF OUR TOTAL CUSTOMER BASE, MEANING THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING SERVICES TO

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AND WE DO HIRE LOCALLY FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND THIS STORE WILL EMPLOY ABOUT 40 TO 50 PART TIME AND FULL TIME ASSOCIATES.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH FLOOR & DECOR OR HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT A STORE, HERE IS JUST A QUICK INTRO VIDEO TO FLOOR & DECOR AS A COMPANY.

MS. FOR TOP QUALITY FLOORS AT ROCK BOTTOM, PRICES COME TO FLOOR & DECOR.

THE LARGEST TILE AND WOOD PLACE I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.

IT'S EVERY COLOR.

IT'S EVERY STYLE.

IT'S A ONE STOP SHOP.

WE GOT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED AND WE PAID THE PRICE THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO SAVE MONEY AND MAKE YOUR HOUSE LOOK GREAT? THE DESIGN CENTER IS TOTAL INSPIRATION.

THESE GUYS KNOW THEIR STUFF.

HANDS DOWN THE BEST PLACE FOR FLOORS.

NO QUESTION. FLOOR & DECOR.

YOU HAVE TO SEE IT TO BELIEVE IT.

SO THE SITE WE'RE LOOKING AT IS LOCATED OFF OF SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD AND KIMBALL AVENUE.

IT'S ABOUT A 7.8 ACRE SITE WITH DIRECT CONNECTION TO SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

AND IT IS THE ONLY UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY WITHIN THAT SOUTHLAKE AND KIMBALL AVENUE CORRIDOR.

ON THE 7.8 ACRES, WE ARE LOOKING TO CONSTRUCT A 75,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT WILL ALIGN WITH THE MARSHALL'S AND PGA SUPERSTORE TO THE EAST OF US.

WHEREAS AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS SOMEWHAT MIRRORING WHAT'S EXISTING ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET.

THE BUILDING WILL FACE SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND A CUSTOMER PICK UP AREA WILL BE ADDED TO THE LEFT FRONT CORNER OF THE BUILDING.

AND THAT IS INTENDED FOR THOSE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE PICKING UP LARGER QUANTITIES OF INVENTORY.

ESSENTIALLY, THE CONTRACTOR WILL BACK IN THEIR TRUCK OR THEIR TRAILER INTO THE INTERIOR CUSTOMER PICKUP AREA WHERE THEY WILL BE LOADED FROM THE WAREHOUSE WITH THE FORKLIFT WITH THEIR MATERIALS PURCHASED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE PROPOSING NEW DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS TO THE EXISTING PUBLIC STREET TO PROVIDE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AND OUR LOADING DOCK AREA OR OUR BACK OF HOUSE IS IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING TO MATCH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS TO THE EAST OF US. AS MARSHALL'S AND PGA SUPERSTORES ARE TODAY, THE LOADING DOCK WILL BE SCREENED WITH A SCREEN WALL TO CREATE A BARRIER FOR VISIBILITY SOUND, AND THE SITE WILL ALSO LOOK TO REUSE THE EXISTING VEGETATION ALONG THE SOUTHERN AND WESTERN PROPERTY LINES TO CREATE A BUFFER AREA FROM ADJACENT USES.

SO THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT ITSELF IS COMPRISED OF ABOUT 78% SALES FLOOR, 4% OFFICE AND 18% WAREHOUSE.

AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SEPARATION OF THE FLOOR PLAN SHOWN HERE.

THE DASHED LINE REPRESENTS THE WAREHOUSE AREA.

THE KIND OF SQUARE BLOCK IN THE REAR IS THE OFFICE PACKAGE.

THAT'S WHERE THE MANAGERS OFFICES ARE, THE RESTROOMS, STORAGE CLOSETS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

WE WILL ALSO LOOK TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR FLOOR & DECOR USE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, ALONG WITH NEW LANDSCAPE PLANTINGS AND SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS ALONG THE PROPERTY LINES AS WELL.

SO THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL BE DESIGNED TO FIT THE EXISTING CONTEXT AND CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING CENTER WHILE ALSO LOOKING TO ACHIEVE FLOOR & DECOR.

CORPORATE BRAND IDENTITY.

SO FLOOR & DECOR HAS CONDUCTED A NATIONAL PARKING AND TRIP GENERATION STUDY BY KIMLEY-HORN IN 2022

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THE STORES ARE ANTICIPATED TO HAVE THE HIGHEST PARKING AND TRIP GENERATION RATES PROGRAM PROGRAM WIDE TO ESSENTIALLY REPRESENT WORST CASE SCENARIO FROM A PARKING AND A TRIP GENERATION STANDPOINT.

AND THE STUDIES CONCLUDED THAT AT PEAK HOURS, FLOOR & DECOR CAN ANTICIPATE ABOUT 45 OCCUPIED PARKING SPACES DURING THE A.M.

HOURS. ABOUT 63 OCCUPIED PARKING SPACES DURING THE PEAK HOURS AND 78 PARKING SPACES OCCUPIED DURING THE SATURDAY PEAK HOURS. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT FLOOR & DECOR AS A RETAILER AND LOOKING FOR A COMPARISON WHEN IT COMES TO COMPARABLE TRIP GENERATION USES, WE ARE REALLY A UNIQUE USE IN THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER RETAILERS OUT THERE THAT HAVE A MODEL SIMILAR TO THE FLOOR & DECOR MODEL.

HOWEVER, A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE COMPARED TO A HOME DEPOT OR A LOWE'S AS A HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR DATA.

FLOOR & DECOR IS PROVEN TO HAVE 30% LESS A PEAK HOUR TRIPS, 47 LESS P.M.

PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND 251 LESS SATURDAY PEAK TRIPS.

SO OVERALL AS A TRAFFIC GENERATOR.

FLOOR & DECOR IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN OTHER HOME IMPROVEMENT USES THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY.

SO WE DID DO SOME INVESTIGATIONS TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE ADJACENT USES IN THE PROXIMITY TO THE PROPOSED FLOOR & DECOR DEVELOPMENT. THE RESIDENCES TO THE SOUTH WEST OF US ARE ABOUT 860FT AWAY FROM THE FLOOR & DECOR BUILDING FOOTPRINT, WHEREAS THE SCHOOL TO THE SOUTHEAST OF US IS ABOUT 510FT AWAY FROM THE FLOOR & DECOR BUILDING.

AND THEN THE KINGS UNIVERSITY TO THE WEST OF US IS ABOUT 346FT AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED FLOOR & DECOR BUILDING.

OKAY. AND THAT DOES CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION.

MY TEAM AND I ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. MACEL.

AT THIS TIME, THE ITEM IS NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

THE MICROPHONES THAT ARE PLACED IN THE AISLES NEED TO BE USED IN ORDER THAT THOSE WATCHING FROM HOME CAN HEAR.

WE ASK THAT THOSE WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS APPROACH THE MICROPHONE AND AGAIN USE THEM SO THAT EVERYONE THAT'S WATCHING FROM HOME CAN HEAR AND PARTICIPATE IN THE UPCOMING DISCUSSION.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR COMMENTS AND AGAIN ASK IF YOU DO HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

PLEASE DO USE THE MICROPHONES THAT ARE LOCATED AT THE FRONT OF EACH AISLE.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CARL SALLES.

I RESIDE AT 220 EASTWOOD DRIVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

IT WAS A NICE PRESENTATION.

I HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH, ABOUT YOUR ACCESS IN THE BACK FOR DELIVERIES.

SO YOU'RE PROPOSING TO EXTEND THE EXISTING ROADWAY, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL THERE? THAT IS CORRECT. THE CITY IS GOING TO REQUIRE US TO EXTEND THAT PUBLIC ROADWAY FROM OUR EASTERNMOST PROPERTY LINE ALL THE WAY TO OUR WESTERN PROPERTY LINE AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

WELL, LOOKING AT YOUR SCHEMATIC THERE, THERE'S ONLY ONE REASONABLE WAY TO COME IN WITH DELIVERIES, AND THAT WOULD BE NEXT TO THE SCHOOL, AND THAT IS A HIGHLY UTILIZED PICKUP AREA.

I'D BE CONCERNED FOR THE CHILDREN THERE.

I THINK THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN, PROTECT THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS.

AND I JUST SEE THIS AS ADDING A PROBLEM THERE.

THIS AREA IS A HIGH DENSITY TRAFFIC AREA.

1709 IS JUST REALLY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, GOTTEN REALLY BAD.

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I DON'T SEE ANY PROPOSAL, ANYTHING ADDITIONAL HERE THAT WOULD GIVE ME ANY REASONABLE COMFORT LEVEL FOR SAFETY. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADDING SEMI TRUCKS, BOX TRUCKS, CONTRACTOR DELIVERY TRUCKS, PICKUP TRUCKS WITH TRAILERS ON THEM, ALL COMING THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR AREA ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COME IN OFF OF 1709. ADEQUATELY BETWEEN BJ'S AND THAT SHOPPING AREA WHERE TORCHY'S IS AND THAT STUFF. THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH ROOM FOR A SEMI TO MAKE THAT TURN AND CERTAINLY NO WAY FOR A SEMI TO GO DOWN THAT WAY AND TURN OUT NOT EVEN REASONABLY WITH THE CONTRACTOR PICKUP TRUCKS JUST FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS.

I JUST HAVE TO VOTE THAT MY OPPOSITION TO THIS PLAN.

THANK YOU. AND DO I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND? THANK YOU. YES, YOU DID. WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

AS A PART OF THE APPLICATION, WE WOULD LOOK TO WORK WITH STAFF TO OBTAIN APPROVALS TO DO OUR DELIVERIES AFTER OPERATING HOURS, WHICH WOULD KEEP BIG SEMI TRUCKS OFF OF THE PUBLIC ROADWAYS DURING THOSE PEAK HOURS.

BUT ALSO WE CAN LOOK TO LIMIT THOSE DELIVERY HOURS TO CERTAIN HOURS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT.

RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF BIG SEMI TRUCKS ON THE ROADWAYS AND.

ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOLS DURING THE DAY.

SORRY. SOMETHING'S IN MY EYE.

BUT THERE IS ALSO ADEQUATE TRUCK MOVEMENT FOR TRUCKS AND VANS AND TRAILERS TO COME OFF OF SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

THEY DON'T JUST HAVE TO UTILIZE THE STREET ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL.

AGAIN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE COMMENTS TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE, IF YOU COULD, PLEASE, SO THAT THE PEOPLE AT HOME CAN PARTICIPATE AND LISTEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CARL IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THERE IS NO ROOM TO COME THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT.

I LIVE DIRECTLY WHERE THAT RED LINE GOES, THROUGH THAT BACKYARD RIGHT THERE.

AND I'M SORRY, I'M A LITTLE BIT UPSET ABOUT THIS.

I'M VERY, MY CHILDREN GO TO THAT SCHOOL.

SEVERAL OF OUR CHILDREN GO TO THAT SCHOOL.

THIS IS THE WORST POSSIBLE PLACE FOR THIS BUILDING TO BE.

I HAVE A VIDEO JUST FROM THIS WEEK BECAUSE I PICK UP MY KIDS IN THAT EXACT SPOT.

THERE'S A CROSSING GUARD.

THERE ARE NO TEACHERS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL I WOULDN'T SAY HUNDREDS, BUT 50-60 CARS IN A VERY SMALL PARKING LOT WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF CHILDREN WALKING AROUND.

I'M TALKING AS YOUNG AS TEN YEARS OLD.

MY SON IS TEN. HE'LL BE THERE NEXT YEAR.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEN YEAR OLDS.

AND AS FAR AS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, WHAT ARE THE NOISE ORDINANCES FOR THE CITY FOR SEMIS? I KNOW CENTRAL MARKET HAS A SIGN THAT SAYS FROM 11 P.M.

TO 6 A.M., NO SEMIS ALLOWED.

AND IF THERE WERE SEMIS ALLOWED.

MY BEDROOM'S RIGHT WHERE THAT RED ARROW IS.

SO THE NOISE ORDINANCES, THE CHILDREN.

THIS IS JUST NOT A GOOD SPOT.

THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER SPOTS IN THE CITY FOR SUCH A LARGE BUILDING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HI, MY NAME IS MEGAN KINSLOW.

I RESIDE AT 2054 MIRACLE POINTE DRIVE.

I AM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE DIAGRAM THERE.

SIMILARLY, I AM CONCERNED AS A PARENT.

I HAVE A FIVE AND A SEVEN YEAR OLD.

I ACTUALLY WORK FROM HOME AS AN ADVERTISING EXECUTIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALREADY DUE TO SOME OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THE AREA, SEMIS AND EXTREMELY LARGE TRUCKS WILL ACTUALLY GET ALREADY LOST.

AND I SEE THEM ALREADY COME THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OFF.

IF THEY MISS THAT TURN, THEY END UP ON KIMBALL HILLS DRIVE AND GO THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND GO THROUGH MIRACLE POINT BEFORE TRYING TO GET TO CROOKED LANE.

IN THE TWO YEARS I LIVED ON MIRACLE POINT, I'VE WITNESSED AT LEAST 5 TO 6 ACCIDENTS, ALL ON KIMBALL, EITHER TRYING TO MAKE A BLIND LEFT FROM RIGHT AT THE

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SO IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE TURNING RADIUS CONCERNS ALREADY REPRESENTED, I'M HIGHLY CONCERNED ABOUT TRUCKS NOT EVEN REALIZING THEY'RE GETTING INTO A SCHOOL ZONE UNTIL THEY'RE RIGHT UPON THAT AND HAVING A FAMILY BUSINESS THAT'S ACTUALLY IN TRUCKING, KNOWING THAT IT TAKES THEM QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO BRAKE AND SLOW DOWN, EVEN IF THEY'RE DURING SCHOOL HOURS AND SEE THOSE FLASHING 20 MILES AN HOUR, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO PUMP THEIR BRAKES AS THEY ENTER A SCHOOL ZONE.

NOW, IF THEY MISS THAT, THEY END UP IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE ALL THE KIDS ARE WALKING TO SCHOOL AND ONE OF THE CROSSWALKS IS PROTECTED.

ONE IS NOT, AS YOU ARE TRYING TO EXIT CROOKED LANE.

SO JUST SAFETY WISE DURING SCHOOL HOURS, CERTAINLY ALIGNED TO SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTARY ALREADY SHARED.

MY OTHER HUGE CONCERN THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP AS WELL IS JUST DELIVERY TIMING.

NOW YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH SCHOOL TIMES BEING IN THIS SCHOOL IN PARTICULAR.

I BELIEVE THEY START AT 8 A.M.

YOU MIGHT BE THINKING, OH, HIGH TRAFFIC WOULD BE 7:30 TO 8:15.

WE'LL TRY TO AVOID DELIVERIES DURING THAT TIME, TRY TO AVOID THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN THEY'RE SLEEPING.

WELL, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT SCHOOL IS ALSO HIGHLY USED FOR AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES ON THE WEEKENDS.

THAT IS. MY DAUGHTER IS FIVE YEARS OLD.

THIS IS A VERY ACTIVE COMMUNITY FOR SPORTS.

THERE IS LACROSSE THERE, FOOTBALL THERE, CHEER THERE.

I COULD PROBABLY NAME 15 OTHER SPORTS THAT PRACTICE ON THAT FIELD.

AND IF YOU WANTED JUST AS A FAMILY TO GO TOSS A FOOTBALL, WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH A HIGH USE AREA.

IT IS USED. I KID YOU NOT TILL 8 OR 9 P.M.

IN SOME CASES FOR PRACTICE ALMOST THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR.

SO MY CONCERN IT'S IT'S YES, THAT'S A SCHOOL.

BUT UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS USING THAT AS A VERY HIGH USE AREA.

AND THEN FINALLY, I WOULD JUST ASK YOU, WE'RE A VERY SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY OF BUSINESS.

THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER PLACES IN THIS COMMUNITY.

YOU COULD BUILD THIS. I'M YOUR TARGET DEMO.

I'VE DONE THREE MAJOR HOME REMODELS.

I WORK WITH ALL THOSE CONTRACTORS ALL THE TIME ON MY HOME.

I GO INTO YOUR STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO SUPPORT IT WHEN THE RIGHT LOCATION.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTARY ON OTHER PLACES THAT ARE NORTH OF SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD THAT AGAIN, ARE MUCH MORE HIGH TRAFFIC, ARE A BETTER PLACE FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY.

WHEN YOU'RE IN THIS AREA AND YOU START GETTING INTO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONES AND PARTICULARLY CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PUSHBACK AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEM GETTING ACCEPTED BY THE COMMUNITY.

AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE I WORK WITH RETAILERS AND CONSUMER PACKAGED GOODS FOR MY DAY JOB, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TOUGH TIME WHEN EVERYBODY'S REALLY MAD ABOUT THAT GOING IN THAT LOCATION IF IT ENDS UP THERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN.

GOOD EVENING. I'M PAMELA MOLLER, 214 WESTWOOD DRIVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

I'M ALSO A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WORKED ON THE CITY'S ZONING.

THAT'S HOW LONG I'VE BEEN AROUND THE MASTER PLAN.

THIS AREA HAS ALWAYS BEEN DIFFICULT AND I WILL PUT MY COUNCIL HAT ON FOR A MOMENT.

WE WELCOME YOUR BUSINESS TO OUR TOWN.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH, A LOT OF BUILDING GOING ON.

THERE IS DEMAND, UNFORTUNATELY, FOR THIS ONE SPOT.

IT'S A TRANSITION AREA.

AND THIS IS TOO HIGH IN INTENSE USE.

WHEN WE DO A LAND USE PLAN, THE ZONING, IT WAS ALL BY LARGE TRACTS OF LAND.

YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO THE LANDOWNER TO DIVIDE IT SO IT'S A BETTER TRANSITION.

SO YOU HAVE A BIG CHUNK THAT LOOKS VERY GOOD FOR YOUR TYPE OF BUSINESS.

HOWEVER, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A SCHOOL, THE HOMES, A CHURCH, NOT COMPATIBLE.

AND YOU POINT OUT THE DISTANCE OF THE HOMES, THE CHURCH, THE SCHOOL.

THEY CAN BUILD CLOSER WITHIN 15FT OF THIS LOT.

THAT IS THEIR PREROGATIVE TO DO SO.

IT IS ALLOWED UNDER OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

I HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH.

ARE YOU PLANNING TO BUILD UP THE LAND MORE WHEN THIS YOU PUT YOUR FOUNDATION IN? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THAT? WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BUILDING IS GOING TO SIT FROM A TOPOGRAPHY STANDPOINT AS WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO THE ENGINEERING OF THE SITE QUITE YET.

WE NEED TO OBVIOUSLY GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS FIRST.

AND THAT'S I DO SUGGEST YOU LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE STARTED TO PUT SOIL THERE.

THEY'RE BUILDING UP THE LAND WHICH GETS INTO DRAINAGE IN THIS AREA.

IT CUTS RIGHT IN THIS AREA, PART GOES NORTH, PART GOES SOUTH.

THERE'S A BIG TYPICAL PROBLEM WITH THE YOU'LL HEAR SOME OF THE RESIDENTS TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE BACK PARTS OF THEIR PROPERTY FLOODING WHEN THINGS ARE BUILT

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AND AS WE HEARD OUR NEIGHBOR HERE TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE, THAT IS A VERY BIG PROBLEM WITH THE TRUCKS, THE TRAFFIC.

I'D ALSO LOOK, THERE'S ONLY ONE TURN LANE COMING INTO THIS FROM THE WHEN YOU ARE HEADING WEST.

AND THEN KIMBALL.

BUT IF PEOPLE GO LATER, KNOW THEY'RE BACKING UP THERE, THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM GOING ON.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE LOCAL AREA, THE NEIGHBORS.

AND AND I HOPE YOU LOOK AT IT ANOTHER PART OF SOUTHLAKE.

OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, TO PRESENT THE PROJECT.

GET THE FEEDBACK. EXACTLY.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE.

BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE STORMWATER IS A HUGE PIECE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

SO I HELPED WITH THOSE.

EXACTLY. YOU KNOW VERY WELL.

EXACTLY. SO THEY WOULD NOT LET US GET A PROJECT APPROVED WITHOUT ADEQUATE STORMWATER DETENTION THAT WOULD NOT CREATE ISSUES FOR THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES.

WELL, WE'LL SEE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PATTY MULLENDORE 2023 EASTWOOD DRIVE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I'M A 40 YEAR RESIDENT HERE AND WE HAVE WATCHED ALL THE COMMERCIAL GO IN ALL AROUND US WITH THE ONLY SUBDIVISION THAT HAS COMMERCIAL THAT FRONTS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

HAVE YOU RIDDEN INTO WOODLAND HEIGHTS, WHICH YOUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE COMING NEXT TO? HAVE YOU HAVE YOU PERSONALLY RIDDEN IN THERE? I HAVE. AND DID YOU SEE OUR HOMES? I DID. OKAY. IS THE OWNER HERE TONIGHT FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? THEY ARE NOT.

OKAY. WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE REPRESENTING YOUR COMPANY? I'D LIKE TO POINT IT OUT SO I KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

MYSELF. IN THE ROW.

THE FOURTH ROW BACK.

OKAY. OKAY.

HAVE ANY OF YOU 4 OR 5 BEEN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT WOODLAND HEIGHTS? DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR BUILDING IS COMPATIBLE WITH MY NEIGHBORHOOD? I THINK THEY WOULD SAY YES.

SEEING HAVE YOU RIDDEN THERE? AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, HAVE ANY OF THE FIVE OF YOU BEEN THERE DURING THE SCHOOL ZONE WHEN PEOPLE WAS LETTING OUT AND COMING IN? WHEN THE LINE GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN? KIMBALL TO CHICK-FIL-A AND WHEN CHICK-FIL-A HAS PEOPLE THE LINE RUNS NORTH SOUTH THERE IS FULL.

AND THIS BUILDING IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR YOUR TRUCK TRAFFIC AND OUR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN WHO GO TO BOTH THOSE SCHOOLS.

THERE IS A BETTER SPOT FOR YOUR FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT OVER ON 114 AND WHY YOU WOULD PUT IT BEHIND A STRIP SHOPPING CENTER IS JUST IS A BAFFLE TO ME.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIGHT PROBLEM.

WE HAVE A SERIOUS, VERY SERIOUS AND DRAINAGE EXCUSE ME, A DRAINAGE PROBLEM WHICH EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE TAUGHT TO LOOK AT THE TOPOGRAPHICAL MAP, IT IS INCORRECT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HERE 40 YEARS AND WE KNOW THE WATER RUNS NORTH, SOUTH.

WE KNOW HOW THE WATER RUNS.

AND THIS BUILDING, WHEN YOU PUT IT IN, IT'S GOING TO THROW US TO HAVE ACREAGE BY THE SCHOOL.

IT'S GOING TO THROW YOUR WATER OVER ON TO OUR PROPERTY.

AND I'M TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THIS DESIGN.

I'M TOTALLY OPPOSED TO PUTTING IT ANYWHERE NEAR MY SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE AN INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL AND A JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL THERE.

THIS IS AN IMPROPER PLACE FOR THIS TO GO.

YOUR LIGHTS WILL SHINE IN MY BEDROOM BECAUSE MY BEDROOM IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE FOOTBALL LIGHTS THAT SHINE IN OUR BEDROOM.

AND WHEN FOOTBALL SEASON'S GOING ON OR ANY ACTIVITIES AND IT JUST.

ARE YOU GETTING THIS LAND SO CHEAP? IS THAT WHY YOU PICKED THIS SPOT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD APPEAR TO ME.

I DID SEE PEOPLE DOWN THERE DRILLING ON DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PROPERTY A FEW WEEKS AGO.

AND I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE 32 HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I FEEL LIKE WE'LL GET 32 RESIDENTS.

THAT WILL BE AT ANY OF THE MEETING TO OPPOSE.

AND WE HAVE A VERY WIDE SITE HERE OF MOTHERS AND SOUTHLAKE.

ONCE THEY FIND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THIS BUILDING NEXT TO THE SCHOOL THAT THEIR CHILDREN GOES TO, I FIND IT'S GOING TO EVEN BE A BIGGER OPPOSITION.

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AND AS I'VE LIVED HERE 40 YEARS, I'M TIRED OF FIGHTING WITH THE CITY, WITH EVERYBODY WHO COMES IN, WANTS TO JUST THROW ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING UP AGAINST US AND WE'RE ALL TIRED OF IT.

WE'VE TIRED COMING DOWN HERE AND FIGHTING PEOPLE.

YOU'RE JUST HERE REPRESENTING THE COMPANY.

BUT WE ARE OWNERS.

YOU'RE GOING TO BRING OUR THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY DOWN.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TRUCKS COMING IN AT 11:00 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

WHEN WE HAVE SMALL CHILDREN AND THE AVERAGE AGE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GOES UP TO 80 YEARS OLD.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ALL DAY LONG, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THIS? DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER YOU TRUTHFULLY? TRUTHFULLY? YEAH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO? I LIVE NEXT TO A FLOOR & DECOR, ACTUALLY.

OKAY. AND THEY MAKE REALLY GOOD NEIGHBORS.

WELL, YOU'RE DIFFERENT THAN US.

WE DON'T WANT IT NEXT TO US.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHEN PAMELA WAS TALKING ABOUT BEING OUR DESIGN, WE VISUALIZE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY TO BE RETAIL OFFICE, AND WE'VE TURNED DOWN SEVERAL DIFFERENT PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WANTED TO GO IN THERE, EVEN A NURSING HOME.

WE DIDN'T WANT THAT BECAUSE THE LIGHTING AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL YOUR JUNK, THAT THESE PEOPLE LEAVE LAYING AROUND BEHIND YOUR BUILDING BACK THERE.

AND WHERE DOES THAT JUNK GO? THE PAPER THAT COMES FROM YOUR PEOPLE COMING IN TO PICK UP THEIR SUPPLIES AND STUFF, THEY'RE GOING TO THROW THEIR STUFF AROUND.

AND WHERE IS IT GOING TO FLOAT DOWN TO? WE WHO LIVE BEHIND THERE WHO HAVE ACREAGE DOWN TO OUR PASTURES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE HORSES AND DONKEYS AND GOATS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE AREA TO PUT THIS IN AND I WILL WORK VERY HARD.

I'LL TELL YOU NOW, I WILL WORK VERY HARD FOR THIS NOT TO GO IN THAT SPOT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HI. HELLO. MY NAME IS LAURA HEATH.

I LIVE IN WOODLAND HEIGHTS ALSO.

I'VE LIVED IN SOUTHLAKE SINCE 1984.

I LOVE THIS CITY.

I FEEL BLESSED TO LIVE HERE.

I LOVE FLOOR & DECOR.

MY WOOD FLOOR, MY TILE FLOOR, A LOT OF MY BATHROOMS. THREE BATHROOM TILES ARE FROM FLOOR & DECOR THAT I BOUGHT AT NORTH RICHLAND HILLS STORE, WHICH IS ON 820 ACCESS ROAD AND RUFE SNOW.

I PICKED UP SOME THINGS AT THE ARLINGTON STORE, WHICH IS ALSO RIGHT OFF THREE 60 AS BEST I REMEMBER.

EASY ACCESS TO GO SHOP AND PICK UP.

I FEEL THAT THIS IS A MONUMENTALLY BAD IDEA AND PLACEMENT OF THIS CENTER.

WE ALSO HAVE A LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT ALREADY, AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE THEM NOT CONTINUE TO THRIVE BECAUSE OF YOUR STORE.

HAVE YOU BEEN INTO A HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S LATELY? I HAVE. OKAY.

THEY HAVE ABOUT THREE, MAYBE FOUR AISLES OF HARD SURFACE FLOORING.

THAT'S WHY I WENT TO Y'ALL.

OKAY. EXACTLY. SO I WENT TO Y'ALL.

I DON'T THINK HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY A FLOOR & DECOR.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY YOUR MAIN CONCERN.

RIGHT. AS A RESIDENT, MY MAIN CONCERN I WAS GETTING TO IS THE TRAFFIC.

OKAY. I'VE BEEN JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC EVEN MORE CLOSELY THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.

I'VE BEEN ON 1709 AND KIMBALL AND IT'S ALREADY VERY BAD AND THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ACCESS I CAN SEE FOR DELIVERIES, PICKUPS AND SO ON THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH THIS BUSINESS.

SO TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE A BAD PLACEMENT OF THIS BUSINESS FOR TRAFFIC AND BEING RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED.

BUT THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY WHAT I WOULD CALL A NIGHTMARE AND THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYWHERE ELSE FOR IT TO GO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY TURN. DENNIS MINDER 2023 EASTWOOD DRIVE SOUTHLAKE WOODLAND HEIGHTS ACROSS THE STREET DOWN THERE ON YOUR 600 FOOT ARROW.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OMITTED IN YOUR PLAN.

NUMBER ONE, THAT'S A FLAT SITE PLAN.

THERE'S NO ELEVATION OR ANYTHING ELSE.

YOU DON'T SHOW ANY ROUTINGS FOR YOUR ACCESS TO GET IN AND OUT OF YOUR PROJECT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET FROM KIMBALL DOWN THERE? WHERE'S THE TRAFFIC GOING TO GO EXITING YOUR STORES ONTO 1709.

RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T EVEN GET TO 1709 FROM THAT TORCHY'S LITTLE STRIP SHOP UP THERE AND THE FURNITURE STORE.

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THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.

THERE'S NO LEFT TURN PROTECTED ARROW IN THERE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE CITY TO PUT IN FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

AND WE'RE STILL AT A STANDSTILL.

SO I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THERE.

AND YOU HAVEN'T SHOWN ONE EVIDENCE OF HOW THAT PROPOSES ON YOUR LITTLE FLAT PLAN UP THERE.

AND THE OTHER THING YOU DON'T SHOW IS THE ARTICULATION ON YOUR BUILDING.

WE'RE NOT A CITY THAT LIKES BOXES.

WE'RE NOT A CITY THAT LIKES SKYSCRAPERS.

SO WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF ARTICULATION YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE FRONT OF YOUR STORE TO BREAK UP YOUR FLAT DESIGN AND THOSE OTHER STORES.

THAT'S NUMBER TWO. NUMBER THREE, A WAREHOUSE BACK THERE, BASICALLY A WAREHOUSE.

YOU HAVE NO ACCESS REALLY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO COME AND SHOP IN YOUR STORE EXCEPT TO COME DOWN THAT LITTLE STREET THERE NEXT TO TORCHY'S, WHICH IS A DISASTER ANY TIME OF DAY TO COME BACK TO DO SERVICE IN THERE.

AND LIKE YOU SAY, MOST MOST OF YOUR STUFF IN THERE IS WAREHOUSE, EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY IT'S ONLY 18% WAREHOUSE, BUT IT'S ALL WAREHOUSE, A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THE OTHER THING BEING RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOLS, HAVE YOU SEEN THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF WAREHOUSING BUILDINGS NEXT TO SCHOOLS, HIGH CRIME, CHILDREN GET ABDUCTED ALL THE TIME OUT OF AN AREA THAT HAS WAREHOUSES, THAT HAS BIG BOX BUILDINGS, AND THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO ENTER AND EXIT.

SO YOU CAN MAKE A QUICK PICK UP, BOOM, AND YOU'RE OUT THE DOOR AND THERE GOES A KID OR THEY GO TO SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN RUN OVER OR WHATEVER.

SO THIS THIS WHOLE PLAN HERE IS JUST NOT NOT MAKE SENSE WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF LOCATIONS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 114 OR EVEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 114 FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS YOUR BUSINESS AND GET OUT AND TAKE CARE OF STUFF.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A LIGHTING ISSUE.

WE'RE BURIED WITH LIGHTING RIGHT NOW.

WE WANT DARK SKY ISSUES OUT HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S BUILDING NOW.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO DARK SKIES WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE FLOODLIGHTS IN YOUR PARKING LOTS? THERE'S NOT EVEN DESIGNATED UP THERE TO SHOW THAT.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

IF YOU'VE DRIVING DOWN 1709 AND TRIED TO TURN IN WHERE TORCHY'S IS, THAT'S THE ONLY ACCESS.

BESIDES, WHEN YOU'RE EASTBOUND UP WHERE THE FURNITURE STORE IS AND THERE'S HARDLY ANYBODY GOING TO MAKE THAT TURN IN THERE.

AND LIKE THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL SAID, IF YOU MAKE A WRONG TURN, YOU'RE GOING TO WIND UP IN KIMBALL'S HILLS.

YOU'RE GOING TO, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR A TRACTOR TRAILER TO TURN AROUND.

SO HE'S GOING STRAIGHT AHEAD.

WELL, THEN HE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH MIRACLE POINT, HUH? WHERE DO YOU DO A MIRACLE POINT? YOU GO ZIGZAG BETWEEN SOME MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR HOMES AND COME OUT ON CRICKET LANE, WHICH YOU CAN'T HARDLY NAVIGATE AT ALL WITH A TRACTOR, WITH A TRUCK AND A TRAILER NO LESS THAN A SEMI. AND THE OTHER THING, NOISE.

HAVE YOU BEEN OUT HERE AT NIGHT WHEN EVERYTHING'S SORT OF QUIET, WENT FOR IT AND WE'RE WAY AT THE BACK OF OUR SUBDIVISION AND IT'S LIKE 114 RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH YOUR LIVING ROOM AND YOU HAVE TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE RUN DOWN THAT LITTLE STRIP DOWN IN THERE BACKING UP, PULLING OUT, DOING WHATEVER THEY DO, BANGING DOORS.

ET CETERA. ET CETERA.

IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WAKING THE NEIGHBORHOODS UP AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF LOT OF PEOPLE WORK SHIFTS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I USED TO GET WOKEN UP BECAUSE I GET 3:00 IN THE MORNING.

I GET UP OR USED TO ANYWAY, AND I GET TRUCK TRAFFIC AND BANGING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO I LOSE SLEEP OVER THAT.

AND WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND EVERYBODY HOOTING AND HOLLERING OVER THERE, YOU LOSE SLEEP.

BUT ANYWAY. SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT I'VE MENTIONED HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND GO AHEAD.

YOU CAN REBUTTAL ANY OF THAT STUFF AND TELL ME WHERE YOUR STREETS ARE GOING TO BE, WHAT YOUR ARTICULATION IS GOING TO BE.

ONE OTHER THING WITH THE WATER FLOW, YOU ELEVATE YOUR BUILDING THERE RIGHT NOW THE WAY IT IS TO ANY KIND OF HEIGHT THAT BACKS UP THE WATER THROUGH THE WHOLE NORTH END OF OUR SUBDIVISION, WOODLAND HEIGHTS, ALL THAT.

AND THEN YOU GET DOWN ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE SUBDIVISION WHERE IT TILTS TO THE SOUTH.

BUT RIGHT NOW, JUST THE WATER THAT COMES OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OFF THE STREETS, ET CETERA, WE ARE UNDER WATER WITH THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF RAIN.

I MEAN, THAT LAST RAINSTORM WE HAD, IF YOU CALL IT A STORM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A FOOT OF WATER AND IT STAYED THERE FOR ALMOST A WEEK AND A HALF, TWO WEEKS.

AND IT'S STILL SOGGY BACK THERE.

I CAN'T EVEN GET BACK THERE TO MOW MY TRACTOR.

AND BEFORE BEFORE THAT, IT WAS THE SAME ISSUE.

WE USED TO HAVE 2 OR 3FT OF WATER BACK THERE.

BUT BY DAMMING THAT UP AT ALL, IT'S MONUMENTAL.

FLOOD COMING ALL THE WAY BACK.

IN FACT, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS HERE, HE'S KIND OF ON THE TIPTOE BETWEEN GOING NORTH AND SOUTH AND HE'S UNDERWATER NOW.

SO IT'S JUST, IT'S A BAD SELECTION.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TON OF DRAINAGE TO GET ALL THAT WATER UNDERNEATH.

1709 LIKE I SAY, YOU'RE FAIRLY LEVEL RIGHT THERE.

AND THE TOPOGRAPHY DOWN THE VALLEY IS FAIRLY LEVEL, BUT IT'S TILTED MORE TOWARDS THE SOUTH.

AND IF YOU BUILD UP YOUR PROPERTY THERE AT ALL, WE'RE GOING TO DIE IN THE FLOODS BACK THERE.

THANK YOU. OH, I WANT TO HEAR SOME REBUTTAL ON THAT, TOO.

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WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE EXISTING COMMUNITY HAS A CERTAIN LOOK AND A CERTAIN STANDARD THAT WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO ACHIEVE, AND THAT WILL BE FURTHER DEVELOPED AS THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD.

OKAY. CAN YOU SHOW US ON THERE WHERE YOUR INGRESS AND EGRESS ROADS ARE ON THAT MAP? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING EXCEPT PARKING SPACES? SURE. SO CUSTOMERS WOULD COME IN OFF OF SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

OBVIOUSLY. BUT HOW DO YOU GET FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD TO YOUR PIECE OF PROPERTY BACK THERE? SEVEN ACRES. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THERE'S AN EXISTING STREET.

YOU COME EAST BOUND ON 1709.

WHERE DO YOU TURN TO ACCESS YOUR BUILDING TO MAKE A PURCHASE? WHERE DO YOU TURN INTO THE PROPERTY? YEAH. ANY PLACE ALONG THERE? JUST TELL US YOU HAVE.

YOU SHOWED NO ROADS UP THERE AT ALL, RIGHT.

ARE YOU GOING TO GET OFF 1709 WHETHER EASTBOUND OR WESTBOUND TO ACCESS YOUR PROPERTY? YOU WOULD IF YOU'RE DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY YOU'RE COMING OFF OF SOUTHLAKE, YOU WOULD TURN INTO THE PROPERTY BY TORCHES.

RIGHT. AND LITTLE 24 SQUARE, 24 FOOT WIDE ROADWAY.

YOU'LL NEVER MAKE IT. YOU'LL NEVER MAKE IT.

YOU HAVEN'T. AT LEAST NOT ONE MINUTE TAKEN.

TIME TO READ THE POLICE REPORT.

A CUSTOMER OR FOR A EMPLOYEE.

THAT IS HOW THEY WOULD ACCESS THE SITE, IF NOT ON KIMBALL.

OKAY. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ACCIDENTS THERE ARE DAILY WITH PEOPLE JUST GOING TO TORCHY'S AND A COUPLE OF THE OTHER SHOPS THERE AND YOU WANT TO STUFF A TRACTOR TRAILER DOWN THERE AND AND MORE PEOPLE WITH TRAILERS AND PICKUPS AND ALL HAVE ALL THAT STUFF.

I WOULD NEVER ACCESS THAT WAY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T NUMBER ONE, IT'S HARD TO GET IN AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT WITH THE PROJECT.

THE CITY IS GOING TO REQUIRE US TO DO SUBSTANTIAL TRAFFIC STUDIES AND INVESTIGATIONS TO SEE WHAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE WARRANTED, TO IMPROVE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS.

YEAH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM ON EITHER SIDE OF TORCHY'S AND BJ'S TO PUT ANYTHING IN THERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE FURNITURE STORE IS AND THE CHURCH UNLESS YOU BUY PROPERTY FROM THEM, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE A AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ROOM COMING UP THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY.

OKAY, I'VE HEARD YOUR CONCERNS, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A MARSHALL'S AND A PGA'S THAT'S DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF US.

HOW DO YOU THINK THEY GET TRUCKS INTO THEIR PROPERTY? WELL, MOST OF THEM COME OFF OF KIMBALL.

OKAY. AND THEN YOU HAVE WHICH YOU'RE NOT SHOWING THERE IS THAT 30 FOOT DROP OFF OF KIMBALL DOWN IN THERE.

WELL, WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE THE ROAD OFF OF KIMBALL.

THE CITY IS GOING TO REQUIRE US TO DO THAT.

RIGHT. SO WE WOULD ASSUME A SIMILAR TRAFFIC PATTERN TO WHAT MARSHALL'S AND PGA SUPERSTORES DOES TODAY.

RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPENSATE FOR A 30 FOOT FALL OFF OFF OF THAT STREET.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT A NORMAL GRADE COMING DOWN THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 200 PLUS FEET OF DRIVEWAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FILL IN JUST TO GET BACK THERE.

AND THE SAME THING. AND WE HAVE A LICENSED CIVIL ENGINEER ON OUR TEAM WHO IS WELL EQUIPPED TO DO THAT DESIGN.

WELL, I TELL YOU WHAT, THE CITY HAS PUT FORTH PLENTY OF STUFF WHERE WATER RUNS UPHILL.

IT'S NEVER RUN UPHILL IN THE 40 YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF YOU ALL.

HOW ABOUT THAT? UNTIL I SAID THE ENGINEERS THEY HAD HERE PREVIOUSLY ALL TOLD US WATER RUNS UPHILL.

IF YOU LOOK AT KIMBALL HILLS OVER THERE, THERE'S OVER 100 FOOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KIMBALL BOULEVARD AND THE BOTTOM OF OUR PASTURE.

OH, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY WATER.

IT RUNS TOWARDS KIMBALL AND OUT THAT WAY.

NOW, TELL ME WHAT ENGINEER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD TELL YOU WATER RUNS UPHILL? AND WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF THEM HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

ONE OF THEM IS DEAD NOW AND THE OTHER ONE'S GONE.

SO, YOU KNOW, HE PROBABLY GOT CAUGHT IN THE FLOOD.

BUT ANYWAY, YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY SENSE OUT OF THIS STUFF.

I'M ASKING YOU VALID QUESTIONS.

I HAVEN'T HEARD A VALID ANSWER YET.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ANSWERS OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR JUST REASONS TO OPPOSE THE DEVELOPMENT? WELL, HOW ABOUT BOTH OF THEM? I WANT SOME ANSWERS.

OKAY. AND YOU'RE IN THE WRONG PLACE FOR THIS BUILDING TO START WITH, RIGHT? OKAY. THERE'S YOUR ANSWER AND THERE'S THE OTHER ANSWER.

THANK YOU. YES.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I THINK WE'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS AND THE RESPONSES AND WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY AT THE MICROPHONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HI. HELLO.

NOT TO REITERATE EVERYTHING EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, I JUST WANT TO BE HEARD.

I'M A PARENT TO THREE DRAGONS HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND WE WERE DRAWN TO THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF HOW FAMILY CENTERED IT WAS.

AND WE LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY'RE RIGHT BACK WHERE MANY OF THESE FINE FOLK HAVE SAID THEY LIVE AS WELL.

HONESTLY, MY BIGGEST FEAR IS FOR THE SAFETY OF MY KIDS.

WE'VE HAD ONE ATTEND DAWSON AND EUBANKS RIGHT THERE, AND SO I'VE LIVED THROUGH THE TRAFFIC AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS GOING,

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THE NEXT TWO COMING UP, THEY WILL BE WALKING.

AND I'M AFRAID OF ALL OF THE CONTRACTOR TRAILERS AND VEHICLES THAT WILL REALLY ONLY HAVE THAT ONE SMALL, NARROW DRIVEWAY OFF OF SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD OR KIMBALL.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT, I DON'T FEEL FREE TO LET MY CHILDREN WALK ANYMORE BECAUSE I'M AFRAID SOMEONE WON'T SEE THEM.

YOU CANNOT COMPARE MARSHALL'S AND THE GOLF PGA.

THE TRAFFIC DRAWN TO THOSE TYPES OF STORES BECAUSE OF THE OFFERINGS THAT THEY HAVE, CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL AND THE TYPE OF VEHICLES THAT ARE NEEDED TO HAUL THAT EQUIPMENT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, A GOLFER OR A STAY AT HOME MOM WHO WANTS TO GO BUY A SHOWER GIFT DOES NOT COMPARE TO THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE COMING OUT OF A FLOOR & DECOR BOX STORE.

LET ME JUST JUST INTERJECT.

MOST OF OUR CONTRACTORS AND CUSTOMERS PICK UP MERCHANDISE IN PICKUP TRUCKS.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE SAME TYPE OF VEHICLES ACCESSING MARSHALL'S TRAILERS, PGA SUPERSTORES, TRAILERS ON OCCASION.

SURE. BUT OFTEN, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET FLOORING, I MEAN, I'VE FLIPPED EIGHT HOUSES.

I'VE NEEDED TRAILERS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES FOR THOSE PROJECTS.

SO EITHER WAY, THE TRAFFIC THAT YOU WILL BRING IS JUST SO UNSAFE.

AND I THINK THE CITY PASSING THIS, IT WOULD JUST I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SHOW UP TO CONTEST THIS LIKE IT REALLY IT REALLY MAKES ME FEARFUL.

ALONG WITH MEGAN, WE'RE BOTH BACK THERE JUST LIKE, REALLY UPSET AND FEAR.

I DON'T WANT TO LIVE LIKE THAT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO WORRY.

I WANT TO LET MY KIDS BE ABLE TO WALK.

AND THIS COMMUNITY IS JUST IT'S A SAFE COMMUNITY AND I WANT IT TO REMAIN THAT WAY.

BUT THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA.

SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOHN RONELL.

I ALSO LIVE IN WOODLAND HEIGHTS AT 204 WESTWOOD DRIVE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WHAT I HEARD THIS EVENING IN YOUR PRESENTATION, THAT WAS 60%.

IS IT OF REVENUE OR SALES OR CUSTOMERS OR COMMERCIAL CONTRACTORS? CORRECT. AND SO I'M JUST WHAT I HEARD AND WHAT I CAN'T CONNECT REALLY OR RECONCILE IS WE HAVE WE HAVE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL SPACES IN EAST SOUTHLAKE.

THIS IS MORE COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL THAN IT IS RETAIL.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A RETAIL COMPONENT TO IT.

RETAIL MAKES UP 80% OF THE BUILDING.

OF THE FLOOR SPACE? CORRECT. OKAY. BUT YOUR SALES ARE 60% CONTRACTOR.

IT'S STILL RETAIL SALES.

ALL OF IT IS RETAIL SALES.

GOTCHA. AND SO I'M SEEING A SCHOOL I'M SEEING THE KING'S CROSSING THAT HAS OFTEN YOUTH GROUP FESTIVALS AND SO FORTH THROUGH THE SUMMER AND THEN KUMAN RIGHT BEHIND KING'S CROSSING. WE'RE PUTTING KIND OF A COMMERCIAL USE A LOT OF CONTRACTORS.

THERE'S DIFFERENT SOURCES THAT CAN REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS THAT COMPRISE THE CONSTRUCTION WORKFORCE 25 TO 50%.

AND SO I'M JUST SAYING TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A BAD IDEA TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT SERVE CHILDREN AND TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL ORIENTED BUSINESS SELLING TO CONTRACTORS COME PICK UP MATERIALS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE FLOOR? ONCE AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS APPLICATION.

MS. MACEL, THANK YOU AS WELL.

I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE ONLINE PORTION THAT I'LL NOW READ INTO THE RECORD AT THIS TIME.

FROM RANDY WORTENDYKE WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSED BUILDING.

A 75,000 SQUARE FOOT FLOOR AND DECOR WILL CAUSE MASSIVE TRAFFIC ISSUES IN AN AREA THAT ALREADY HAS TRAFFIC ISSUES.

IN ADDITION, THAT LARGE OF A WAREHOUSE TYPE RETAIL STORE ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF SOUTHLAKE.

IT DOES NOT FIT WITH THE STYLE AND CULTURE WE HAVE BUILT AND ENJOY IN OUR TOWN.

LISA SAMMONS SUBMITTED THIS.

I'M OPPOSED TO THE ADDITION OF ANY LARGE WAREHOUSE CONSTRUCTION BUILDERS TYPE BUSINESS AT THIS LOCATION.

THE HEAVY TRAFFIC AND PROXIMITY TO DAWSON MIDDLE AND EUBANKS INTERMEDIATE IS DANGEROUS FOR KIDS WALKING RIDING BIKES IN THE AREA.

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AND WILL INCREASE ALREADY DIFFICULT CONGESTION SIGNIFICANTLY DUE TO THE LACK OF EASY INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

FROM JENNIFER RAYA.

I BELIEVE THIS IS A TERRIBLE LOCATION FOR A FLOOR & DECOR.

THIS KIND OF BUSINESS SHOULD BE LOCATED ON A HIGHWAY, NOT ON THE MAIN ROAD THROUGH OUR CITY, WHICH ALREADY HAS HORRIBLE TRAFFIC AND ACCIDENTS ALL THE TIME.

NOT TO MENTION, THIS LOCATION IS WAY TOO CLOSE TO EIS AND DMS. IT WOULD BE UNSAFE FOR THE KIDS WITH THIS BUSINESS BEING SO CLOSE WITH TRACTOR TRAILERS COMING AND GOING ALL THE TIME.

THEY NEED TO LOOK AT OFF 114 SOMEWHERE, NOT ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

PLEASE REJECT THIS PLAN.

THANK YOU. KRISTY STACEY SUBMITTED AFTER HAVING RECENTLY REMODELED A HOME.

I WOULD LOVE A FLOOR & DECOR CLOSER THAN THE TWO LOCATIONS PRESENTLY, BUT THE PARTICULAR LOCATION YOU'RE REQUESTING IS CONGESTED WITH THE PRESCHOOL.

DAWSON AND EUBANK SCHOOL TRAFFIC IN THE MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS.

CHICK-FIL-A TRAFFIC AT ALL OPERATING TIMES AND THE CURRENT STRIP CENTER RESTAURANT TRAFFIC.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE PROBLEM ADHERING TO SCHOOL ZONES WITH PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN IN CISD.

ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND CLIENTELE FROM ALL OVER THE METROPLEX PRESENTS A SAFETY CONCERN TO OUR WALKERS, BIKE RIDERS, BUS ROUTES AND NEIGHBORHOOD FAMILIES.

I STRONGLY URGE TO KEEP THIS PARTICULAR BUILD SITE FREE FROM THIS BUSINESS OR ANYTHING SIMILAR AS IT IS A WEIGHTY PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN AND AS TO NOT DISRUPT THE NORMAL FLOW OF THE CURRENT SCHOOL AND BUSINESS TRAFFIC.

FROM DANIELLE NOLAN.

I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOOR & DECOR BEING PROPOSED FOR THE LOCATION OF SOUTHLAKE ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

FIRST OF ALL, TRAVELING ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD WOULD BECOME AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE WITH THE SEMI TRUCKS DELIVERING MATERIALS TO THE STORE.

EVEN DURING BUSY PERIODS, TRAFFIC FLOWS FAIRLY EASILY ON 1709 DUE TO NO SEMIS BEING ON THE ROAD.

ADDING SEMIS TO THIS WOULD BE A DISASTER AND SLOW THE TRAFFIC FLOW DRASTICALLY.

SECOND, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TYPE OF STORE BEING SO CLOSE TO DAWSON MIDDLE AND EUBANKS INTERMEDIATE SCHOOLS.

AFTER SCHOOL, A LOT OF STUDENTS WALK THROUGH THIS AREA TO GO TO TORCHY'S, ET CETERA.

AND THE TRANSIENT CLIENTELE HAS WITNESSED WHILE SHOPPING AT OTHER LOCATIONS.

THIS TYPE OF STORE WOULD BRING IS CONCERNING.

I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MY 11 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER WALKING THROUGH A FLOOR & DECOR PARKING LOT, EVEN IF SHE WAS WITH FRIENDS.

I THINK A FLOOR & DECOR WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR AREA.

HOWEVER, NOT IN THIS LOCATION, THEY SHOULD CONSIDER THE OLD SAM'S CLUB BUILDING.

IT IS SET UP MUCH BETTER FOR SEMI TRAFFIC.

FINALLY, LAUREN BERTO.

PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW FLOOR & DECOR TO MOVE INTO THIS AREA.

TRAFFIC IS ALREADY TERRIBLE IN THAT AREA.

ADDING THE ADDITIONAL 18 WHEELERS WILL CAUSE EVEN MORE CONGESTION.

THESE ARE TWO SCHOOLS LOCATED, RIGHT? THERE ARE TWO SCHOOLS LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPERTY.

KIDS WALK THIS AREA BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL.

WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

IT WILL BECOME UNSAFE FOR KIDS TO BE IN THAT AREA.

THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE AREA THAT WOULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT TO TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONCERNS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROCESS.

AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MS. MACEL. THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE VOICED THEIR OPINIONS.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD ON THE MICROPHONES.

AND MS. MACEL, AS YOU ARE THE PROPONENT OF THE PRESENTATION, WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE A FINAL COMMENT SHOULD YOU LIKE.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND PROVIDING YOUR FEEDBACK.

THAT'S. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TO ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN SPIN.

AND REMEMBER, THAT SPIN REPRESENTS THE FIRST STEPS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

A SPIN MEETING REPORT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE AFTER THIS MEETING TAKES PLACE AND WE WILL INCLUDE THE SUBMITTED SPIN QUESTION AND OR COMMENT FORMS IN THE MEETING REPORTS.

THESE REPORTS ARE GENERAL OBSERVATIONS OF THE FORM.

THEY'RE NOT VERBATIM.

INTERESTED PARTIES ARE ENCOURAGED TO FOLLOW THIS CASE THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

THESE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED AND WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE APPROXIMATELY 24 HOURS AFTER THE MEETING TAKES PLACE.

AND WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN THIS SPIN MEETING.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACTIVE PARTICIPATION TONIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.