COMMISSION MEETING. AND NOW WE WILL CALL TO ORDER THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE FAVORITE MEETING.
[1. Call to Order.]
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SIGNBOARD MEETING FOR, I GUESS THIS IS JUNE 8TH AS WELL.NO CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS FROM ME.
ANY ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS HERE? NO, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU.
[5. Consider: Approving the minutes from the May 18, 2023, Sign Board Meeting.]
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THOSE BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA.
ALL RIGHT, MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ANYONE WANT TO SECOND? OH, COME ON. WE'RE TRYING TO GET A SECOND DOWN THERE.
HOW MANY HOW MANY SECONDS HAVE YOU MADE IN YOUR 20 YEAR CAREER? I MEAN. OH, OKAY.
6-0. HOW MANY DENIAL VOTES HAVE YOU HAD NOW? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE, PLEASE.
[6. Consider: SV23-0010, Sign Variance for HTeaO located at 190 Davis Blvd., Southlake, Texas.]
NOW WE WILL GO TO OUR ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER SIX.HOPEFULLY I'M SAYING THAT RIGHT.
OR MY DAUGHTER WILL HECKLE ME.
THE OWNER IS HTEAO SIGNS DID APPLY.
THIS IS THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE NORTH ELEVATION, THE VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED TONIGHT.
TONIGHT ARE THE LOGO HEIGHT OF 96IN LOGO AREA OF 92.67FT².
AND THE NON LIT LETTERS, WHICH IS THE TAGLINE BORN IN TEXAS WOULD BE LESS THAN TWO INCHES IN DEPTH.
THE SIGN AREA OF 92.67FT² AND THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SIGN WIDTH OF 11 FOOT AND 0.07FT.
THE SOUTH ELEVATION PROPOSED PROPOSED VARIANCES LOGO HEIGHT OF 72IN LOGO AREA OF 52FT².
SIGN WIDTH OF EIGHT FOOT 8.8FT.
THESE ARE THE PROPOSED RENDERINGS OF THE NORTH AND SOUTH BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
THEY ARE ASKING SOME VARIANCES ON ADDRESSES LOCATED ON THE BOTTOM OF SIGN.
THE MONUMENT HEIGHT IS EIGHT FOOT SIX INCHES.
IN LIEU OF THE EIGHT FOOT ALLOWANCE, THE SIGN FACE FRAMED IS LESS THAN SIX INCHES OF MASONRY PRODUCT AND THE MONUMENT SIGN FACE AREA IS 98FT². THE HEIGHT OF THE SIGN FACE IS SEVEN FOOT IN LIEU OF THE ALLOWANCE OF SIX FOOT AND THE REQUESTING A MARQUEE SIGN WHICH IS PROHIBITED BY ORDINANCE.
THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SIGN WIDTH THAT MEETS TWO TIMES THE ALLOWABLE SIGN HEIGHT OF 14FT.
THE MENU BOARD SIGN VARIANCES.
IT IS A SIGN TYPE OF MONUMENT.
THEY ARE PROPOSING A GROUND SIGN TYPE.
THEY ARE NOT ADDING ANY TYPE OF MASONRY OR SIMILAR MATERIAL TO THE SURROUNDING SIGN FACE.
THEY ARE ADDING A SIGN ATTACHMENT TO THE TOP OF THE MENU BOARD SIGN AND THEY ARE DUE EXTERNAL ILLUMINATION LIGHTING IN LIEU OF THE INTERNAL ILLUMINATION.
THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS ARE THEY ARE PROPOSING VARIANCES OF A GROUND SIGN TYPE.
THEY ARE PROPOSING FOUR SIGNS IN LIEU OF THE ALLOWANCE OF TWO SIGNS.
THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SIGN FACE AREA OF 3.99FT².
SORRY. THESE ARE IMAGES OF JUST TO THE NORTH SONIC LOCATION.
THE MONUMENT SIGN IS SURROUNDED BY MASONRY PRODUCT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM HERE AND HTEAO IS HERE AS WELL.
OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR NOW.
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APPLICANT I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO WE'LL BE TYPICALLY DONE ON THESE IS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DELIBERATE ON THEM UP HERE, TRY TO TALK THROUGH THEM AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL YOU UP. ONCE WE'VE KIND OF HAD A CHANCE TO TALK THROUGH THEM, YOU CAN KIND OF ADDRESS ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF THE WAY YOU'D LIKE TO SEE SOME THINGS, AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON SOMETHING.SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY USUALLY THE EASIER WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.
THAT WAY YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY KIND OF TANGIBLE TO COMMENT ON.
SO MAYBE JUST STARTING TO GO THROUGH THIS KIND OF LIKE WE ALWAYS DO.
WHAT I WOULD MAYBE COMMENT ON AT THE BEGINNING HERE IS FOR A1 AND A2.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S THERE'S SOME VARIANCES REQUESTED HERE AND THEY'RE PREDOMINANTLY RELATED TO SIZE.
AND SO WHAT I WOULD MAYBE SUGGEST AND I GUESS WE CAN SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK.
THIS IS ADMITTEDLY KIND OF A MORE LIMITED VISIBILITY, LIMITED ACCESS, PART OF THE ROAD.
THERE'S A REASON IT'S STILL SITTING THERE UNDEVELOPED.
LET'S JUST BE HONEST. IT'S NOT THE WORLD'S BEST SITE.
SO I'M OPEN MINDED TO WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK THROUGH IF COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO SEE SOME KIND OF DERIVATIVE OF THIS THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.
I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, WHAT'S MAYBE RATHER THAN MAYBE LIKE GET INTO THE WEEDS ON EACH SPECIFIC ONE.
I MEAN, WOULD PEOPLE WANT TO SEE AN ALTERNATIVE OR AN OPTION THAT'S MAYBE 20% SMALLER OR.
IT ACTUALLY IS YOU KNOW IT'S NOT LIKE AN EVO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTABLE.
OKAY. EVO SEEMS TO BE THE PUNCHING BAG UP HERE LATELY.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? JUST THOUGHTS.
I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT ABOUT THE GRAPEVINE LOCATION.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK THE APPLICANT WHETHER IT IS THE SAME SIZE AS THE GRAPEVINE LOCATION.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU THAT THE NORTH AND SOUTH ELEVATIONS ARE PROBABLY FINE, BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF GIVING THE COUNCIL ANOTHER OPTION, WHETHER THAT'S 20% OR WHATEVER, IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT SOMETHING ELSE JUST SO THAT THEY CAN COMPARE IT.
OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? I THINK WE KIND OF COVERED IT AND AND JUST AN APPLICANT.
YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO COME UP HERE AND COMMENT IN A SECOND.
JUST KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
SO TRYING TO TRYING TO THINK THAT THROUGH AHEAD OF TIME.
SO MAYBE WE'LL JUST NOTE THAT DOWN THERE ON ITEMS A ONE AND A TWO, MAYBE A POTENTIAL OPTION.
YOU KNOW, COUNCIL ALWAYS QUOTES THEY LIKE TO SEE OPTIONS PLUS OR -20%.
YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN KIND OF CALL IT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, PERCENTAGE THAT MAKES SOME SENSE.
PERSONALLY, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE FIRST COUPLE OF BULLETS ON HERE ABOUT THE ADDRESS.
I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THAT REQUEST.
I'LL ADMIT I KIND OF STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT WITH.
BUT I GUESS WE'LL SEE WHAT OTHERS THINK ON THAT.
WELL, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE ADDRESS LIT.
YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE SIGN OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO BE LIT AND.
AND IT'LL KEEP IT MORE IN LINE WITH OUR STANDARD MONUMENT SIGN.
YEAH, I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH SONIC LOOKING LIKE THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT CONSISTENCY.
YOU GUYS, DO YOU MIND SHOWING US THE SONIC SIGN IN IT? AND ADMITTEDLY THAT'S WHY I MADE THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE NORTH AND SOUTH ELEVATIONS.
I KNOW THESE ARE THE ONES THAT.
SO I GUESS IF YOU GO BACK TO THE.
HERE YOU GO. SO STRUGGLING WITH THE EIGHT FEET VERSUS EIGHT POINT 8.5FT, I GUESS.
STRUGGLING WITH THE FRAMING SIGN SIZE AREA BY DEFAULT SIGN HEIGHT OF THE SIGN.
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GIVEN THAT, I CAN'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANY OF THOSE APPROVED IN.TEN PLUS YEARS FOR ME AT LEAST.
I KNOW THE STARBUCKS OVER THERE GOT TURNED DOWN OKAY.
THEY HAD THEIR IN-PERSON BARISTA SCREEN THERE, AND OUR PAST MAYOR WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT AT ALL.
SHE TENDS TO HAVE AN OPINION, TOO.
SO. ANY? I GUESS I WAS KIND OF OKAY WITH THE COUPLE OF BULLETS ON A DRESS, BUT ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I GUESS. DR. SPRINGER DOWN HERE STRUGGLED WITH IT A LITTLE BIT.
PROBABLY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHY.
OKAY. WE'LL ASK THAT WHEN THE APPLICANT COMES UP.
WE'LL SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'D BE A DEAL BREAKER.
BUT YEAH, WE'LL ASK THAT WHEN THEY COME UP.
GIVEN THAT THE SONIC ONE DOES.
YEAH. B-1 THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT IDEA.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION WE'RE HEADED.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS HIDDEN ON THE BACK END OF THE SITE.
SO I WAS TRYING NOT TO BE PICKY.
I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND NOT PUTTING A MASONRY SURROUND ON IT FOR SURE.
BUT. I GUESS OTHER THAN COST, I WAS STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT COULDN'T BE A GROUNDED SIGN.
WITH. YOU KNOW, SOME INTERNAL LIGHTING AND HAVING KIND OF, I GUESS, THE EXTRA SIGN ON TOP OF IT.
I MEAN, I'LL DEFER TO THE COMMISSION ON THAT.
I GUESS I MAY HAVE AN OPINION, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO.
I WONDER IF THE INTERNAL LIGHTING.
JUST MAYBE TAKE THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THAT, THE EXTERNAL LIGHTING SHINING DOWN ON IT.
FOR WHATEVER REASON, I FEEL LIKE IT LOOKS CLEANER.
IT CAN LOOK CLEANER LONGER AND AND CLEANING THE SIGN WOULD PROBABLY BE EASIER.
BETTER. I'M NOT AN ENORMOUS FAN OF HOW THIS IS STRUCTURED BUT I THINK BEING ON THE GROUND WHEN YOU'RE ON THE DRIVE THROUGH AND YOU'RE IN A TRUCK, YOU'RE JUST LIKE LOOKING DOWN ON IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGE.
SO I THINK IN THIS CONTEXT, I THINK I MEAN, WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THIS SITE.
I MEAN, THIS IS WAY BACK THERE, WAY BACK THERE, YOU KNOW? AND SO I REALLY DON'T THINK YOU PROBABLY SEE IT VERY MUCH ANY OTHER.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE AS OBVIOUS THAT WAY.
WITH THE EXTERNAL LIGHTING, ARE PEOPLE GENERALLY OKAY WITH THIS AS PRESENTED? WELL, THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A MENU BOARD.
SO, I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT 27 OF THEM OVER AT SONIC.
YEAH. JUST UNDERSTAND, HE'S BEEN A LOT WORSE.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT THAT BAD.
SO IF YOU THINK THAT'S BAD, GO BACK AND WATCH SOME OF OUR PAST MEETINGS.
I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD THINGS UP.
SO I GUESS THAT 1ST MAY BE NO COMMENT ON THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.
I HAD NO ISSUE WITH HAVING THAT NUMBER OF SIGNS AND NOT HAVING MASONRY SURROUND ON THEM.
BUT THE LAST TWO BULLETS, I DIDN'T THINK THEY NECESSARILY HAD TO BE.
I THOUGHT THREE FEET COULD BE FINE AND YOU KNOW, THE SIZE COULD BE SMALLER.
IF THEY DON'T, THEN I WON'T EITHER.
BUT. WELL, WHY DON'T WE ASK? WE CAN ASK THEM ABOUT IT, I GUESS I WASN'T NECESSARILY I DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH HAVING THEM.
BUT JUST IF THEY ARE THERE, DO THEY HAVE TO BE THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN THEY FOLLOW ORDINANCE.
BUT. MAYBE WE CAN ASK HIM ABOUT THAT TOO.
STAFF OR DID I MISS A PAGE? OKAY, I'M GOOD. OKAY.
OKAY. NOW WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE APPLICANT UP, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
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GOOD EVENING. TODD BOCKENFELD 1245 SOUTHLAKE DRIVE, A SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT FOR 18 YEARS FOR KIDS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH SOUTHLAKE CARROLL HIGH SCHOOL.DID THAT MAKE SENSE? AND IT'S MORE THAT I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PREPARE YOU THAT COUNCIL COULD ASK TO SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE SMALLER.
AND AT LEAST IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING, YOU'VE HAD TIME TO KIND OF CRAFT ON YOUR OWN.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF SHRINKING IT IS FROM A TECHNICAL ABILITY TO MAKE THE SIGN.
SO WE MAY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF OUR BRAND IMAGE IS THAT LOGO.
SO THIS ONE IS ONE THAT WE REALLY, REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE PASSED.
OKAY. WELL, AND PER OUR CONVERSATION, OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER, IS IT THE SAME AS GRAPEVINES? IT IS THE SAME SIZE AS THE GRAPEVINE.
OKAY. THAT'S A STANDARD KIND OF A FRANCHISE STANDARD.
YEAH, AND I AGREE. THE ` THE ONE IN GRAPEVINE ACTUALLY LOOKS REALLY NICE.
AGREE. AND WE OWN THAT STORE AS WELL.
AND I LIKE THE MATERIAL. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING.
TYPICALLY THAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER ON.
I DO THINK THE MARKET IS GOING TO BE TOUGH.
I THINK WE'RE OPEN TO PUTTING IN THE MASONRY SURROUNDING.
YOU KNOW, THE MARQUEE PIECE IS ALSO ANOTHER THAT'S A VERY KIND OF FRANCHISE.
AND I'M SURE IT'S THE SAME THING WITH SOUTHLAKE OR WITH STARBUCKS.
BUT IF THAT'S A NO, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY GET THAT APPROVED THROUGH OUR FRANCHISE.
WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE IT, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT WE CAN DO A MONUMENT SIGN THAT HAS MASONRY SURROUNDED BY IT AND MEETS THAT CODE.
I THINK THE SIZE OF IT, THE REASON THAT THEY DID NOT PUT THE MASONRY ON OUR ORIGINAL WAS BECAUSE WITH THAT MARQUEE IN THERE, I DON'T THINK YOU COULD MEET THE SIZE WITH THE MASONRY BORDER.
SO IF WE TOOK THE MARQUEE OUT, I THINK WE WOULD DO THAT.
YEAH. I THINK WHAT I WHAT I WOULD SAY WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY INCLUDE IN THE MOTION IS SHOWING A MONUMENT SIGN THAT COMPLIED WITH THE ORDINANCE AND JUST SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND THE I'M MORE SYMPATHETIC PERSONALLY TO THE ADDRESS LOCATION, BUT MAYBE OTHERS AREN'T.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU CAN LOOK AT.
BUT JUST KNOW, I MEAN, IF THERE'S ONE THING I WOULDN'T SAY AT CITY COUNCIL, IT'S SAY THAT THAT'S PART OF OUR OUR BRANDING AND THEREFORE WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BECAUSE WE LITERALLY HEAR THAT ON EVERY SINGLE SIGN APPLICATION WE HEAR.
AND SO IT KIND OF STARTS TO FALL ON DEAF EARS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMISSION IS OKAY WITH THE MENU BOARD.
I HAVE MY THOUGHTS ABOUT KEEPING TO MYSELF.
YOU'RE THE OVERSHARER AND THEN THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.
I THINK YOU HEARD THE QUESTIONS THERE.
CERTAINLY EXIT SIGNS, THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW HOW TO EXIT.
SO I THINK I THINK THE AMOUNT OF DIRECTIONAL SIGNS IS IS APPROPRIATE.
I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO STATE.
I MEAN, THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION ABOUT BEING THE SAME ONE AS GRAPE VINES.
THAT WAS THAT WAS HELPFUL. I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION.
WHAT I'M SURE THE MONUMENT SIGN WILL BE LIT ALL NIGHT.
RIGHT. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER SIGNS LIKE THE MENU BOARD AND ALL THAT STUFF? IS THAT GOING TO GO OFF PRETTY MUCH AT NIGHT?
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SO YEAH, THE WALL PACKS AROUND THE BUILDING.HOURS OF OPERATION ARE DURING THE SUMMER, 7 A.M.
DURING THE WINTER AND FALL HOURS AT 7 A.M.
AND THEY'LL COME ON LIKE 30 MINUTES BEFORE AND GO OFF 30 MINUTES AFTER THOSE HOURS.
THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE HAVE IT SET UP.
OKAY. AND THIS MENU BOARD WILL GO OFF AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD. OKAY.
WE NEED YOU. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, THANKFULLY, SIGNBOARD DOES NOT REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO, REALLY, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COMMENT ANYWAY.
SO I'M GUESSING THE MOTION WILL INCLUDE SOMETHING ON A ONE AND A TWO REGARDING.
PRESENTING A COMPLIED VERSION OF THAT.
AND ON THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, WAS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THOSE OR I THINK THEY OUGHT TO TRY AND DO A COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE OPTION TWO, BECAUSE I DON'T I JUST DON'T SEE COUNCIL AGREEING TO THAT COMPLIANCE ON THE TWO BULLETS ON SIZE OR ON NUMBER OF SIGNS AS WELL.
ON ALL OF IT, YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.
MASONRY SURROUND, DO YOU NEED THAT? I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE IT, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
I THINK WHAT YOU CAN DO IS PRESENT AS IS AND THEN PRESENT A FULLY COMPLIED ONE, AND THEN YOU CAN COMMENT ON THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN MAYBE LIVE WITH AND THINGS YOU'D REALLY LIKE TO LIVE WITHOUT.
AND I THINK. REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE THINK UP HERE, THERE GOING TO BE THE FINAL ARBITER.
SO YOU CAN JUST PLEAD YOUR CASE.
AND IF THE SIX INCH LOOKS JUST OVERLY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PROBABLY PLEAD THE CASE.
JUST TO CLARIFY THE ORDINANCE, WE KIND OF COMBINED THE SURROUNDING PORTION OF THAT WITH MASONRY.
THE ONLY THE ONLY SIGNS FOR A GROUND GROUND DIRECTIONAL SIGN.
THAT REQUIRES THE MASONRY SURROUNDING IS THE ONES VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD.
THE INTERNAL ONES STILL HAVE TO BE A MONUMENT STYLE SIGN, BUT IT COULD BE A MATERIAL SURROUNDING THE DIRECTIONAL SIGN FROM THE BASE UPWARD.
SO OKAY, SO THERE CAN BE SOME SOME WORK DONE THERE.
OKAY. SO I THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AS A MOTION HERE.
DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? I'LL GIVE IT A SHOT.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
SB 23-0010, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED JUNE 2ND, 2023.
AND IN PARTICULAR NOTING WITH RESPECT TO SIGNS A ONE AND A TWO THAT ALTHOUGH WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS PRESENTED, THAT THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO EVALUATE THE OPTION TO REDUCE THE SIZE BY PLUS OR -20% BEFORE GOING TO COUNCIL.
WITH RESPECT TO THE MONUMENT SIGN, B-1, ALTHOUGH WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL THERE, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO BRING AN OPTION TO COUNCIL THAT COMPLIES WITH THE ORDINANCE FULLY.
AND IN PARTICULAR, NOTE THAT THE MARQUEE SIGN AND THE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND THAT THE MASONRY NEEDS TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE SIGN WITH RESPECT TO THE MENU BOARD RECOMMENDING APPROVAL ON THAT AND ALSO WITH RESPECT TO THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, BUT ALSO ASKING THE APPLICANT TO BRING A AN OPTION WITH THE ORDINANCE BEING COMPLIED WITH AS WELL.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? GOT A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.
OUTSTANDING. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
I PROMISE. ALL THIS WAS TO TRY TO GET YOU READY FOR THE NEXT LEVEL.
SO WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT.
AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.