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AND SIMULTANEOUSLY OPEN THE MOST EXCITING MEETING IN TOWN AT 7:14 P.M.
CITY OF SOUTHLAKE SIGN BOARD MEETING.
THE AGENDA TONIGHT. WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
BUT THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN BY OUR WONDERFUL LOCAL KROGER.
FIRST, WE'LL START NO ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS, I'M ASSUMING NO CHAIR COMMENTS.
[5. Consider: Approving the minutes from the June 8, 2023 Sign Board Meeting]
WE'LL GO RIGHT TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM JUNE 8TH.ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE, PLEASE.
[6. Consider: SV23-0013, Variance to the Gateway Plaza Phase I Master Sign Plan for Chair King located at 2951 E.S.H. 114, Southlake, Texas.]
GOOD WORK. NOW, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE TO THE GATEWAY PLAZA, PHASE ONE MASTER SIGN PLAN FOR CHAIR KING. THIS IS AN ITEM I THINK SOME OF YOU LOOK FAMILIAR THAT WE HEARD IN OUR WORK SESSION EARLIER THIS EVENING.SO WE WON'T GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY JUST KIND OF LAND ON THE EXACT SIGN.
IT'S A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD CASE AND MAYBE WHAT STAFF JUST HIT ON ANY QUICK ITEMS AGAIN, THAT ARE PERTINENT. YES.
YEAH. CHAIR KING IS REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES TO THE GATEWAY PLAZA MASTER SIGN PLAN.
THIS IS A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE 355 FOOT SETBACK.
A LARGE SIGN VIEW, NIGHT VIEW.
AND THIS IS THE SPECIFICS ON THE VARIANCES.
AND TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE ARE VARIANCES TO LETTER HEIGHT.
SO FOR GATEWAY PLAZA, THEY'RE ALLOWED AN OVERALL SIGN HEIGHT OF 42IN.
AND THAT'S FOR THE H AND CHAIR.
THE OTHER VARIANCE REQUESTED IS FOR SIGN AREA.
THEY ARE ALLOWED 115.5FT² BY THE GATEWAY PLAZA SIGN PLAN AND THEIR REQUESTED AREA IS 138.71FT².
THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING.
THIS IS THE PREVIOUS TENANT SIGN.
THIS IS AN ADJACENT SIGN FOR KOHL'S.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER SIMILAR VARIANCE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE? YEAH, LET'S JUST PAUSE ON THIS ONE.
TYPICALLY, WHAT WE'LL DO ON SIGN CASES IS WITH STAFF UP HERE.
SO ANY QUESTIONS, MAYBE FIRST FOR STAFF ON THIS.
I'M OPEN TO PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS.
I GUESS. TYPICALLY WE LIKE TO STAY TO CHANNEL THE SPIRIT OF DR.
SPRINGER, WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.
WE TRY TO STAY CLOSER TO THE ORDINANCE RATHER THAN FARTHER.
IT'S FARTHER BACK FROM THE FREEWAY.
I THINK IT BEHOOVES US ALL THAT IT HAS TENANTS THAT ARE OPEN AND PROFITABLE VERSUS BEING VACANT.
SO I TEND TO BE A LITTLE GLASS HALF FULL ON THESE.
BUT I'M FINE. WELL, I FEEL IT FITS THE SPACE VERY NICELY FROM A SYMMETRY AND NOT DEAD SPACE, SO. IT'S FUNNY HOW LIKE LOW VISIBILITY IT IS.
YEAH, YOU DON'T REALLY NOTICE IT, DO YOU? UM. PROBABLY NOT.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT OFFENSIVE TO ME, AND I THINK IT LOOKS OKAY.
AND I DO AGREE WITH, WITH YOUR COMMENTS ON, ITS PROPORTIONALITY TO THE SIZE.
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AND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE IS OFTEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IF SOMETHING COMES OUT OF HERE AND IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, THEY MAY HAVE THAT FEELING.SO WE'LL TRY TO ENVISION OPTIONS BASED ON OUR PAST EXPERIENCE WITH THEM THAT THEY MAY WANT TO SEE.
SO I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE TALK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT, I GUESS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, THOUGHTS OTHER THAN THAT? WELL, AND THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY, IF IT'S A LOGO THAT I KNOW SOMETIMES TO KEEP YOUR LOGO FORMATTING, YOU CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, CUT STUFF AND WHAT HAVE YOU. YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
OKAY, WELL, I'M NEW, SO I'M SORRY.
WELL, MAYBE WE'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO GO AHEAD AND COME UP.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I THINK YOU HEARD THE FEEDBACK.
I THINK MAYBE BASICALLY, I THINK WE PROBABLY WANT YOUR THOUGHTS ON JUST HOW YOU WOULD MAYBE DESIGN SOMETHING THAT'S SCALED DOWN A LITTLE BIT FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, WHICH THEY MAY NOT BE EXCITED ABOUT.
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
MY ADDRESS IS 3906 FONDNESS TRAIL SUGAR LAND, TEXAS.
THE WAY WE KIND OF GOT UP THIS WITH THE SIZE DESIGN FOR THE FACADE SIGN, FIRST OF ALL, RELOCATING THE STORE FROM GRAPEVINE, TEXAS OVER HERE.
WE ARE A DESTINATION ORIENTED RETAILER.
IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT OUR PATRONS CAN SEE US AND FIND US, AND THAT'S KIND OF GAZING THROUGH THE TREES ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD OF 114. THE THING THAT THAT HOW I KIND OF CAME UP WITH THIS.
WE THE LANDLORD APPROVED THIS SIGN LAYOUT PRIOR TO US EXECUTING A LEASE BACK IN DECEMBER.
AND THE WAY WE GOT THERE, IF YOU KIND OF REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THE LINEAR FRONTAGE OF OUR SPACE.
WE WERE REALLY THE THIRD LARGEST STOREFRONT IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER OUTSIDE OF KOHL'S.
WE'RE RIGHT AT 140FT IN LINEAR FRONTAGE, AND THAT'S REALLY ABOUT PLUS OR MINUS SIX INCHES TO A FOOT THE SAME SIZE AS THE BUY BUY BABY. SO WE DID KIND OF SCALE THIS IN RELATION TO HOW MUCH STOREFRONT WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEING SET BACK ABOUT 350FT FROM THE ROADWAY.
WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF VISIBLE TO ATTRACT A PATRON INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND THE GAME PLAN.
UM, JUST AS A SIDE NOTE SHOWING MY AGE IS A COMPANY I USED TO WORK FOR.
WE USED TO OWN THE SHOPPING CENTER BEFORE CAT REALTY BOUGHT IT.
WE, I WORKED FOR KIMCO REALTY.
SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY.
I LIKE THE WAY YOU REFERRED TO IT AS DESTINATION ORIENTED.
THAT'S A VERY, VERY NTHOUGHTFUL WAY OF SAYING WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.
OKAY. I GUESS. YOU KNOW, LOOK, YOU KIND OF RUN THE RISK HERE THAT I MEAN, I SAID UP FRONT, I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE ARGUMENT YOU LAID OUT, GIVEN THAT THIS SIDE OF THE CENTER DOESN'T GET A TON OF VISIBILITY AND IT'S FAR OFF THE FREEWAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL COULD ASK FOR A REDUCED VERSION.
MAYBE. MAYBE IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE JUST KIND OF LEAVE SOME LATITUDE WITH YOU ON.
BUT WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN OUR BACK POCKET.
I MEAN, THIS CAN BE YOUR PRIMARY REQUEST, BUT MAYBE YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE.
WE WERE CONCERNED AND COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT WITH THE WAY THAT WE HAVE THE TWO LINES AND THE AND THE LITTLE BRANDING IN BETWEEN, IT DOES GIVE A LARGE TOP TO BOTTOM SIZE.
WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING AS AN ALTERNATIVE THAT.
YEAH, I'D ADVISE YOU THAT BECAUSE YOU JUST NEVER KNOW YOU.
YOU CAN HAVE IT IN YOUR BACK POCKET, IT'LL HELP YOU.
AND MAYBE IT GETS US BACK DOWN INTO MAYBE THAT 60-63 INCH COVERAGE, TOP TO BOTTOM.
SO YEAH, THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE MY FEEDBACK, I GUESS.
ANY OTHER FEEDBACK? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME COMING UP FROM HOUSTON TONIGHT.
SO I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE.
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SO I GUESS UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS, WE'RE GOOD.ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE SIGN BOARD AGENDA, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER SV 23 -0013, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED JULY 28TH, 2023 AND APPROVING WHICH IS APPROVING THE VARIANCES, BUT ASKING THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER A SMALLER VERSION AS THEY GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD LUCK AT CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 17TH, I BELIEVE WAS THE DATE.
WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SKIP OVER ITEM NUMBER SEVEN THAT WAS WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.
[8. Consider: SV23-0012, Sign Variances for ULETE located at 2308 Dean Way (formerly addressed as 2311 Crooked Lane), Southlake, Texas.]
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.OUR SECOND TO LAST ITEM SIGN VARIANTS FOR ULETE.
ULETE IS REQUESTING VARIANCES TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE FOR ATTACHED BUILDING SIGNS.
AND I SHOULD PROBABLY NOTE WE DID GO OVER THIS ONE IN OUR WORK SESSION AS WELL.
THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWING THE LOCATIONS FOR THE THREE SIGNS.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED SIGN A WHICH IS CHANNEL LETTERS.
THE VARIANCE IS FOR SIGN AREA.
THEY ARE PERMITTED ALMOST 67FT² AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A SIGN AREA OF ALMOST 71FT².
THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING FOR THEIR SECOND SIGN, A LABEL.
A SIGN B, THIS IS A PANEL SIGN.
THEY ARE ALLOWED A PANEL SIGN BECAUSE THEY ARE THEY HAVE INDUSTRIAL ZONING.
THE SIGN ORDINANCE ONLY ALLOWS PANEL SIGNS TO BE 25FT².
THEY ARE REQUESTING A SIGN AREA OF 144FT².
PANEL SIGNS CAN ONLY BE NEUTRAL COLORS OTHER THAN WHITE, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A WHITE SIGN.
AND WE ALLOW ONE PANEL SIGN PER LEASE SPACE AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TWO PANEL SIGNS.
AND THIS SIGN WOULD HAVE THAT.
IT WOULD PUT THEM OVER ON THEIR NUMBER OF SIGNS.
BUT NEITHER OF THESE SIGNS REQUIRE VARIANCES.
AS VIEW FROM DEAN WAY AND THE VIEW FROM CRICKET LANE AND A VIEW FROM DRAGON STADIUM PARKING LOT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE AN UPDATED STAFF REPORT FOR YOU.
SO THE DATE ON THE STAFF REPORT IS AUGUST 3RD, 2023.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO ONE OF THOSE AERIALS, MAYBE MOVE BACK FORWARD? NO, I'M SORRY. MOVE THE OTHER WAY.
MAYBE IT WAS MORE THE RENDERINGS.
I WAS GLASS HALF FULL ON THIS APPLICATION UNTIL I SAW THIS ONE.
SO NOW I'M MAYBE CHANGING MY MIND A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY MY BIAS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL ASK YOU FOR MORE HELP IF WE NEED IT.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE APPLICANT UP ON THIS ONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
SO I THINK THAT'LL BE HELPFUL FOR US AS WE DELIBERATE IT.
SURE. MY NAME IS JOHN DAVIS AND WE LIVE AT 928 PARKVIEW LANE IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.
OKAY? YEAH. AND I GUESS MAYBE CAN YOU JUST COMMENT ON WHY YOU LIKE THE CERTAIN SIZE OF THE SIGN THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING RELATIVE TO WHERE YOUR LOCATION IS AND WHO YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT AND BRING IN? I GUESS JUST THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT? YEAH, CORRECT. YEAH.
WE'RE A MULTI-SPORT TRAINING FACILITY AND WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE LIKE.
WHAT IS THERE GOING BACK TO THE OTHER ONE? YES. STAFF YEAH, THERE WE GO.
YEAH. SO SIZE, THE ACTUAL WHAT IS THE
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25FT², IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CENTER SQUARE AND REALLY CUT IT INTO HALF, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE PROPORTIONATELY ON THAT BUILDING AT 25FT², IT'S PRETTY SMALL.AND IT LOOKS IT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT AT ALL.
AND ALSO WHEN YOU GO OVER TO CROOKED LANE THERE, AT THIS SIZE.
THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE ALSO WOULD LOOK ESTHETICALLY NICE AND BE ABLE TO READ THE SIGN NAME.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS IMPORTANT TO US ON THE BACKSIDE BECAUSE IT'S DRAGON STADIUM.
IT'S THAT PARKING LOT OF 750, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, PARKING SPACES.
SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL WITH OUR FACILITY.
OKAY. YEAH. DO YOU MIND FLIPPING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE PICTURES AGAIN? I GUESS THE PICTURES KEEP GOING.
AT THE ACTUAL BUILDING? YEAH, THIS IS OFF.
THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS OUR MAIN ENTRANCE OFF OF DEAN WAY.
OKAY. AND SO IN THE FRONT THERE YOU'LL SEE IS BOARDING FRAMEWORK.
THAT'S WHERE THE CHECK IN BUILDING GOES.
AND THE LARGER BUILDING IS THE INDOOR SPORTS BUILDING.
OKAY. YEAH. AND YEAH, PERFECT.
OKAY. THIS IS SEEING IT FROM CROOKED LANE.
AND CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH.
WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE, WE'LL HAVE LANDSCAPING, BUT ALONG THAT WHOLE LEFT SIDE, ALONG CROOKED LANE, WE HAVE A NINE AND A HALF TO TEN FOOT BARRIER THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE LANDSCAPED.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE MOST VISIBLE IT'LL BE.
CAN YOU KEEP SCROLLING THROUGH THE PICTURES? OKAY, SO THIS. AND THIS IS DRAGON STADIUM AND THIS.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS ANGLE.
YEAH. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A, I THINK YOU HAVE A PARKING AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
RIGHT. FOR CERTAIN DEALS IN THIS PARKING LOT.
SO I'M SURE THEY'RE AMENABLE TO THIS.
SO THEY'RE COOL. THEY'RE OKAY WITH THE SIGNAGE AS WELL.
YEAH. AND THE SIZE OF IT, YES.
DR. LEDBETTER EVEN RECENTLY GAVE HIS APPROVAL FOR BEING ABLE TO WORK AND GO THROUGH THE PARKING LOT.
THEY'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY SUPPORTIVE.
AND THEN, THERE WAS THAT OTHER PHOTO SOMEWHERE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE ON THE MAIN ROAD, YOU YOU JUST SEE THE TIP OF THE BUILDING.
BUT THIS IS DRAGON STADIUM'S VIEW.
SOME MORE PICTURES. UH, RIGHT THERE.
THERE WE GO. SO I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE IT SAYS YOU ULETE, BUT ON THE DIAGRAMS IT SAYS PARTNER NAME HERE.
AND SO CAN YOU ADDRESS WHAT THAT'S INTENDED TO BE AND WHY IT'S NECESSARY? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT IT'S MAKING, RIGHT? THINK OF IT AS LIKE BAYLOR WHITE SCOTT, RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU LEAD.
BUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TALKING TO DIFFERENT PARTNERS ABOUT AN ALLIANCE ON OUR NAME.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT WOULD BE OUR NAME.
SO WE JUST HAVEN'T LOCKED IT IN YET.
WE'RE STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WORKING ON A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES.
OKAY, BUT HOW ESSENTIAL IS THAT TO HAVING BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE IS IT LIKE AN ADVERTISING YOU'RE IN? NO, WE'RE SEEING THAT AS A PARTNER.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A TRUE PARTNER.
FOR THE ACTUAL COMPANY? FOR OUR COMPANY. THAT'S GOING TO BE A TRUE PARTNER WORKING WITH US, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S IT GOES BEYOND JUST ADVERTISING.
IT'S A RELATIONSHIP AND BUSINESS IS WHAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER.
SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE VERY LARGE NAMES THAT WE'RE TALKING TO IN THE SPORTS WORLD ABOUT THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT RIGHT NOW? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
WE NEED YOU. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL DELIBERATE IT.
WE'LL SEE WHERE MAYBE THIS GOES.
I GUESS, STAFF, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND KIND OF FLIPPING BACK TO THE MAYBE THE FIRST PAGE.
JUST. YEAH, NEAR THE VERY BEGINNING KIND OF, YEAH, THESE.
I DON'T KNOW. ANY THOUGHTS FROM PEOPLE ON THIS? I GUESS, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE SEEMED SO FAR OFF THE ROADS, THE MAIN ROADS, THAT DIDN'T REALLY BOTHER ME A LOT.
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HONESTLY, ALL THE MAIN ROADS, WHETHER IT'S KIMBALL OR EMERALD, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE OTHER STREET, I DON'T KNOW.ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? I MEAN, THIS ONE DOESN'T BOTHER ME AT ALL.
IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE VARIANCE, SO.
WELL, I GUESS IF THERE'S NO OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS, WE'D PROBABLY ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT OUR ZONING, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DENNIS OR JENNIFER, BUT I DON'T THINK OUR ZONING CONSIDERS THIS AS A SIGN BECAUSE MOST OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA ARE MUCH SMALLER.
AND SO IT'S JUST A BIGGER BUILDING THAT NEEDS A BIGGER SIGN FOR IT TO BE PROPORTIONATE.
IS THAT FAIR? FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, I WOULD SAY YES, BUT JUST FROM A SIGN STANDPOINT.
YOU'RE LIMITED TO A CERTAIN SIZE IN THIS CATEGORY AND FOR THIS TYPE OF BUILDING.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BUILDINGS LIKE THIS IN SOUTHLAKE; RIGHT? YOU ARE CORRECT IN ALL REGARDS.
THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE BUILDING AND SET OF BUILDINGS.
YEAH. I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE WE'D HAVE KIND OF LIKE THIS.
AND HONESTLY, IT'S PROBABLY MAYBE JUST THE HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR HIGH FACILITY, BUT THAT.
KIND OF A DIFFERENT ANIMAL, TOO, SO.
OKAY. YEAH, I GUESS WE'LL SEE WHAT COUNCIL THINKS.
BUT CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? AND AGAIN, PLEASE FORGIVE MY NEWNESS AND MAYBE ASKING PRETTY ELEMENTARY QUESTIONS.
SO PART OF THE VARIANCE LIST IS TWO PANELS.
AND SO I DON'T VISUALLY SEE BECAUSE I SEE ONE SIGN.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TWO PANELS OR THAT THE SIGN'S BIG AND IT'S GOING TO BE SPLIT UP INTO TWO BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE MANUFACTURED AS ONE OR I DON'T I GUESS I DON'T SEE WHAT THE TWO PANELS MEANS.
DO YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M ASKING? IT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SIGNS ON THE BUILDING.
OKAY. BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE WOULD SAY, HOW MANY SIGNS, I GUESS, CAN YOU MAKE SURE? JUST SO IT'S A LITTLE GOOFY WITH THE MIXING, THE PANELS AND THE CHANNEL LETTERS, I DON'T I CAN'T THINK OF AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAVE THAT KIND OF MIXED, BUT GENERALLY. THE BASIC SIGN ORDINANCE ONLY ALLOWS TWO SIGNS FOR BUILDING.
IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER HOW MANY SIDES YOU HAVE.
IT'S JUST BASICALLY LIMITED TO ATTACHED BUILDING SIGNS.
IT'S BASICALLY THAT THEY'RE OVERALL ASKING FOR THREE SIGNS.
VERSUS TWO. IT'S JUST THE WAY WE CLASSIFIED IT ON HERE IS JUST UNDER THE PANEL SIGNS.
AND AND GENERALLY THE SPIRIT OF OUR SIGN ORDINANCE IS WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF TIGHTEN THINGS DOWN BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO ANTICIPATE A BUILDING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ONLY GRANT VARIANCES AS SITUATIONS COME ALONG THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO BUT I MEAN, IT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.
I MEAN, IF YOU RATHER THEM JUST HAVE TWO SIGNS AND THREE, WE'VE CERTAINLY DONE THAT BEFORE.
IT WAS JUST MAKING SURE I WASN'T MISSING SOMETHING OF HOW IT WAS BEING MANUFACTURED OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT ON THE PAPER, IT SAYS TWO PANEL SIGNS HERE AND THEN IT HAS IT IN ANOTHER BOX.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
I MEAN, I KIND OF LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE AS A RETAIL USE AS WELL, WHERE YOU'RE BRINGING CUSTOMERS HERE, SOME THAT ARE USED TO COMING HERE, SOME THAT AREN'T THAT DON'T QUITE KNOW WHERE IT IS, AND THE SIGNAGE KIND OF HELPS WAYFINDING.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I'M GLASS HALF FULL.
BUT I GUESS ASSUMING WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH IT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO HOLD YOUR COMMENT.
AGAIN, THERE'S A SAYING ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYBODY? GOOD OR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON THE SIGN BOARD AGENDA, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER SV 23-0012, SUBJECT TO THE UPDATED STAFF REPORT DATED AUGUST 3RD, 2023, WHICH COVERS EACH OF THESE VARIANCES.
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CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK.WHATEVER COMMENT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY, YOU CAN LEAD OFF WITH IT AT COUNCIL.
[9. Consider: MSP23-0002, Master Sign Plan for Charles Schwab located at 3000 Schwab Lane (formerly addressed as 3000 TD Ameritrade Lane), Southlake, Texas.]
AND I THINK WHAT I MIGHT ASK STAFF FOR HERE, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE HEARD IN WORK SESSION.FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE CHARLES SCHWAB HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
CAN'T WAIT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
ALWAYS HAPPY TO WELCOME IN COMPANIES FROM CALIFORNIA.
SO I GUESS I'D LIKE IF STAFF COULD JUST FOCUS ON THE AREAS FROM THIS REQUEST THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE TD AMERITRADE REQUEST, GIVEN THAT SIGN BOARD AND COUNCIL GOT THERE ON THAT ONE.
SURE. YEAH. SO BASICALLY THEY'RE JUST REBRANDING TD AMERITRADE AT CHARLES SCHWAB.
PROBABLY THE MOST STRIKING VISUAL CHANGES TO THE ATTACHED BUILDING SIGN AND THE BIG CHANGE HERE.
TD AMERITRADE HAD A LOGO, CHARLES SCHWAB DOESN'T AND THE SIGN IS GOING FROM A 32.5IN LETTER HEIGHT TO A 60.5IN LETTER HEIGHT. AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE H AND THE L.
THERE REALLY IS NO CHANGE IN THE VARIANCES FOR THESE.
AGAIN, NO REAL SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
JUST SWITCHING OUT TD AMERITRADE AND CHARLES SCHWAB.
AND THEN THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.
THE MAIN THING IS JUST CHANGING OUT THESE ARROWS.
NO CHANGE TO THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING MASTER SIGN PLAN.
AND SAME WITH THE DIRECTORY SIGN.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE IT ON THE ONES THAT HAD THE.
YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I GUESS.
I MEAN, JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I'M FINE WITH THIS.
I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THEM HERE IN TOWN AND AND IT LOOKS NICE AND CLEAN.
I MEAN, I LIKE THE SIMPLE, CLEAN LOOK, THE NEUTRAL COLORS CHANNEL, YOU KNOW, CHANNEL LETTERS.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE? I MIGHT GO AHEAD AND ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULDN'T MIND TO COME UP HERE, STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND.
STACEY FARRIS, 3000 SCHWAB LANE IN SOUTHLAKE.
RECENTLY RELOCATED FROM ARIZONA TO TEXAS ONE YEAR AGO.
SO. WELL, YOU'RE USED TO THESE TEMPERATURES THEN.
YES. OKAY. AND I GUESS JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN OUR WORK SESSION.
I GUESS YOU ALL WILL BE OCCUPYING THIS BUILDING.
WE ARE PLANNING TO BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND I GUESS FULLY OCCUPY IT? WE HAVE SOME MAINTENANCE THAT IS HAPPENING ON THE FIRST LEVEL.
SO I WOULD SAY LEVELS TWO AND THREE THIS YEAR AND THEN THE FIRST LEVEL INTO 2024 EVENTUALLY.
OKAY. JUST CURIOUS, ARE YOU GOING TO BE WORKING THERE FIVE DAYS A WEEK OR THREE DAYS A WEEK? I AM FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND I HAVE BEEN SINCE 22,009.
WE LOVE HEARING THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC OUTSTANDING.
YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO HAVE YOUR EMPLOYEES IN THE AREA AND PLEASE ENCOURAGE THEM TO SHOP IN TOWN SQUARE.
ABSOLUTELY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THIS? I'M JUST TOTAL CURIOSITY.
QUESTION BUT ARE YOU ALL FULLY OCCUPIED IN THE WEST LAKE CAMPUS? OCTOBER 1ST.
PAST OCTOBER 1ST, OR THIS COMING? THIS FORTHCOMING OCTOBER 1ST.
SO WE ARE BRINGING FOLKS BACK STARTING AT THE END OF Q4, BASICALLY.
AND THEN CAN YOU EVEN SHARE WHAT THE BUSINESS SEGMENTS THAT WILL BE DIFFERENT IN SOUTHLAKE VERSUS WEST LAKE? IT HAS NOT YET BEEN DETERMINED.
THE DIFFERENT BUSINESS UNITS, THE LINES OF BUSINESS.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT HERE TONIGHT.
SO MOSTLY JUST REPLACEMENT REQUESTS HERE ON THIS APPLICATION.
SO I GUESS WITH THAT, WE WILL ENTERTAIN OUR LAST MOTION OF THE EVENING.
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23-0002, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED JULY 28TH, 2023.WE HAVE A SECOND AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD LUCK AT COUNCIL IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL BANG THE GAVEL AND ADJOURN.
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