[2. SPIN2023-13 - An applicant is requesting a specific use permit for a helicopter pad located at 2000 Greenwood Dr. within SPIN Neighborhood #10.]

AN APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A HELICOPTER PAD LOCATED AT 2000 GREENWOOD DRIVE WITHIN SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER TEN.

STAN, COME ON UP.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STAN JORDAN.

I’M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 2000 GREENWOOD.

WE I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH HAS BEEN PUBLISHED ON THIS, BUT WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT THERE IT'S IN AN INDUSTRIAL PORTION OF SOUTHLAKE.

WAREHOUSES AND WE'RE REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OCCASIONALLY LAND A HELICOPTER ON THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S BEEN SOME.

PUBLICATIONS ARE SOME TALK ABOUT A HELIPAD, BUT THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.

THERE'S NO PAD. THIS IS JUST A LAND IT.

IT'LL LAND NO MORE THAN ONCE A DAY AND TAKE OUT AND LEAVE OUT OF THERE IN ONCE LANDING AND ONCE DEPARTING NO MORE THAN TWICE A WEEK DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, AND BASICALLY THAT'S IT.

WE'RE JUST PICKING UP PERSONNEL AND TAKING THEM AROUND , AND I GUESS WE JUST THAT'S REALLY ALL AS SIMPLE AS OUR THING IS.

THANKS, DAN. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR FILLING OUT THE COMMENT CARDS.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK THOSE OF YOU WHO REQUESTED TO SPEAK TO COME ON UP.

SO OUR FIRST SPEAKER, I'M SORRY IF I BUTCHERED ANY NAMES WILL BE DAVID WHITNEY.

YEAH. HI. SO BUT I GUESS MY OWN LITTLE MAP, IF YOU COULD SEE SORT OF HERE AND ON YOUR DIAGRAM THERE, THIS IS MY HOUSE.

SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT'S INDUSTRIAL, THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY TRUE SINCE YOU'RE ABOUT 50FT FROM MY PROPERTY LINE, AND BETWEEN THE EASEMENT AND WHERE YOU'RE PLANNING ON LANDING IS SOME TREES, AND AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, YOU WOULD BE LIABLE FOR PROPERTY DAMAGE FROM ANY WIND SPEED AND SUCH THAT YOUR VEHICLE WOULD CAUSE AND POSSIBLY INJURE MY KIDS THAT ARE PLAYING IN THAT YARD.

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SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS TO ADDRESS, I GUESS, DAMAGE.

OKAY. I'M TRYING TO PULL THIS UP.

I CAN'T SEE. SO I GUESS THIS IS YOUR BUSINESS.

THAT'S MY HOUSE. RIGHT THERE.

YEAH, I MEAN, JUST. IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME PULL THIS.

ARE YOU ON THE NORTH SIDE? I AM RIGHT HERE AT 880 DEER HOLLOW.

OH, DEER HOLLOW. OKAY.

RIGHT THERE. LOOK OUT.

WELL FOR WATER, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME.

YEAH, MINE IS NOT.

THIS IS MY HOUSE. OH, AND THIS IS THE EASEMENT SO IT'S LANDING RIGHT THERE.

YEAH, THAT'S DIRECTLY BEHIND YOU.

THAT'S MY BEDROOM WINDOW.

LOOKS OUT WHERE YOU'RE LETTING US.

THEN WE'RE DOING THIS DURING BUSINESS HOURS.

YOU KNOW, IT WON'T BE SEVEN IN THE MORNING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY, BUT A HELICOPTER CAN GENERATE WINDS ON THE GROUND FROM 50 TO 90 MILES AN HOUR, AND THAT'S NOT THIS HELICOPTER.

THIS IS A LIGHT HELICOPTER.

IT'S UNDER 100DB.

IT'S A WEED EATER.

I MEAN, A BLOWER MAKES AS MUCH NOISE, BUT EVERY TIME YOU LAND, THESE TREES ARE GOING TO WON'T COME NEAR THOSE TREES. IT'S COMING.

IT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST DOWN THAT STREET AT 500FT.

THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SPECS OR AREA FOR A HELICOPTER TO LAND IS 25M, AND YOU'RE LIKE 50FT FROM MY HOUSE.

60. ALL THIS HELICOPTER ONLY NEEDS 60FT.

AROUND. OKAY. IN THAT SPOT IT LANDS ON AND YOU'RE ONLY LIKE FOUR POOL LENGTHS FROM WHERE MY POOL IS.

I'M SORRY. I MEAN, YOU'RE.

WE'RE ABOUT 200FT FROM YOUR FENCE.

THERE'S A THERE'S TWO BRICK FENCES THERE, AND THOSE TREES IN OUR BUILDING BETWEEN US AND YOU WHERE THE HELICOPTER WILL BE.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S JUST AT LEAST 200FT.

THAT BUILDING IS SITTING THERE BEHIND US IS 80, IT LOOKS LIKE 120FT TO ME BECAUSE, I MEAN, WELL, THAT PROPERTY LINE IS THE FENCE IS RIGHT HERE.

AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S RIGHT THERE? YEAH. ONE, TWO, THREE LENGTHS.

THAT PROPERTY LINE IS 300 OR 200 AND SOMETHING FEET.

WHERE IT'S LANDING.

IT'S 223, AND THEN THERE'S YOUR YARD, AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A BUILDING AND TWO BRICK FENCES BETWEEN YOU AND THAT, AND THE HELICOPTER WON'T COME ANY CLOSER THAN THAT.

IT'S COMING FROM THE WEST.

IT DOESN'T OVERFLY ANY NEIGHBORHOODS AT ALL.

IT'LL COME IN 500 FOOT AGL AND THEN DROP.

15 MINUTES IS DONE.

I CAN DO IT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS, DAVID. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JASON WANG.

HI. I APOLOGIZE IF I GO OVER ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE GONE OVER LATER, BUT I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY TO YOUR NORTH.

MY NEIGHBOR IS YOUR NEIGHBOR, AND SO IN MY GOOGLE MAPS UTILIZATION, I COUNT THERE ARE THREE HOMES WHICH ADJOIN YOUR PROPERTY.

I COUNT 23 HOMES IN TWO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN 500FT OF YOUR PROPERTY.

I COUNT AT APPROXIMATELY 91 HOMES IN FIVE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN 1000FT OF YOUR PROPERTY, AND CARROLL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THE BOUNDARY IS 1500 FEET FROM THAT PROPERTY.

I DON'T PARTICULARLY HAVE A QUESTION.

I JUST HAVE A NUMBER OF SAFETY CONCERNS AND OTHER NOISE POLLUTION IMPACT CONCERNS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP.

AGAIN, THIS THIS HELICOPTER IS NOT GOING THAT DIRECTION.

IT'S COMING FROM THE WEST.

IT WON'T GO TOWARDS THE SCHOOL.

IT WON'T GO TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER HELICOPTERS THAT COME OVER YOUR HOUSE.

IT'S THE NATURE OF AN AIRCRAFT IS THAT IT FLIES IN THE AIR.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY ON ROADS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO OBEY ANY TRAFFIC LAWS, AND OH, THERE ARE PLENTY OF RESTRICTIONS ON IT , AND THE NATURE OF AIRCRAFT IN GENERAL IS THAT IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, YOU WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT EMERGENCY WHERE YOU ARE.

RIGHT. YOU CANNOT PULL OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

PULLING OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD MIGHT BE LANDING IN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

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IT MIGHT BE LANDING ON DAVIS BOULEVARD.

SO I DO HAVE A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL CONCERNS.

SO FIRST OF ALL, HELICOPTERS HAVE A HIGHER CRASH RATE THAN OTHER AIRCRAFT.

SO THAT'S SIGNIFICANT AND THAT'S A CONCERN.

SECONDLY, WHERE YOUR LOCATION IS RIGHT OFF OF DAVIS BOULEVARD, IT'S JUST NORTH OF WEST CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD, AND I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT SIGNIFICANT DRIVER DISTRACTIONS IN THAT AREA.

DAVIS BOULEVARD IS SEVEN TOTAL LANES AND DURING RUSH HOUR IS VERY CONGESTED.

WEST CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD IS TWO LANES, BUT AGAIN, CARROLL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS RIGHT THERE, AND DURING SCHOOL, DROP OFF AND PICK UP, IT'S ENTIRELY BLOCKED OFF FROM ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST AND THEN UP DAVIS BOULEVARD AS WELL, AND IN ADDITION TO THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WALK TO SCHOOL AND DROP OFF THEIR CHILDREN AND THEY HAVE TO CROSS CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD.

SO THERE'S, AGAIN, SIGNIFICANT CONCERN IF SOMEBODY IS LOOKING AT THE HELICOPTER, NOT PAYING ATTENTION, ONLY GOING 20, BUT THEY'RE IN A VEHICLE AND THEY RUN OVER A CHILD, THERE'S THE NOISE IMPACT CONCERN.

YOU MENTIONED 100DB.

THE INFORMATION I FOUND PUBLISHED ON THAT ROBINSON 44 AIRCRAFT DON'T HAVE ANY DECIBEL READINGS FOR TAKEOFF.

I HAVEN'T. OKAY.

DOES IT DOES IT SPECIFY LANDING VERSUS TAKEOFF VERSUS OPERATIONAL? BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND THAT INFORMATION.

ALL IT SAID WAS ABOUT LESS THAN 100DB FLYOVER.

I DIDN'T FIND ANY SPECIFIC LANDING.

AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME.

OKAY, BUT AGAIN, THE EPA SAYS THAT EXCESSIVE NOISE CAN LEAD TO SLEEP DISTURBANCES, STRESS AND COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENTS AND OBVIOUSLY NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE LIVES OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THE AREA.

I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT AIR POLLUTION.

OBVIOUSLY, VEHICLES CAN EMIT HARMFUL POLLUTANTS, OF COURSE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE ROBINSON, 44, HAS A PISTON ENGINE AND THUS LIKELY STILL UTILIZES LEADED FUEL, AND AGAIN, THE AVIATION INDUSTRY IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CONTINUES TO UTILIZE LEADED FUEL, AND LEAD IS OBVIOUSLY.

IT'S 8000 NO LEAD WHAT IT RUNS.

OKAY. WELL THAT'S THEY'VE BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME.

OKAY. AVIATION HAS.

WELL, AVIATION IN GENERAL, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

THEY'RE STILL UTILIZING.

WHAT WERE BUYING IT IS.

THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE.

OKAY, AND THAT'S COMFORTING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY.

YEAH. LEAD POISONING CAN SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE NEUROLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CHILDREN, AS WELL AS POSING RISKS TO RESPIRATORY AND CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM IN ADULTS. IN GENERAL, THE PERMIT DOES NOT, AS I UNDERSTAND, A PERMIT FOR THIS OF THIS TYPE DOES NOT RESTRICT YOUR USE OF THAT LANDING SPACE. SO MY OTHER CONCERN WOULD BE THAT YOU'RE TELLING US NOW THAT IT'S ONLY DURING BUSINESS HOURS, ONLY TWICE A WEEK, BUT THAT IT COULD BE THAT YOU ALLOW HELICOPTERS TO LAND TAKE OFF FROM THAT SPOT? NOT EVEN YOUR OWN, JUST TO YOUR AT YOUR LEISURE.

SO AGAIN, NO QUESTIONS.

JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THOSE CONCERNS.

WELL, IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT.

THE CITY WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT LAST NIGHT AND YES, THE SUP CAN BE WRITTEN SO THAT YOU HAVE THE LIMITATIONS ON IT. SO IT CAN BE PUT IN THERE? SURE. I STILL WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL NOT APPROVE ANY POTENTIAL PERMIT, AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER THE PERMIT.

THANK YOU. THANKS, JASON.

[APPLAUSE] YEAH, IF WE CAN HOLD THE APPLAUSE, PLEASE, AND THE CONVERSATIONS.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS VINNY TANEJA.

GOOD EVENING. I'M VINEET TANEJA.

I'M ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS IN RIDGEVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ADJOINING THAT AREA THAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE, AND AS DAVID MENTIONED, THERE'S ABOUT FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE VICINITY AND A SCHOOL.

SO THE AREA THAT YOU MENTIONED, YES, THERE'S SOME SHOPS AND SOME OLD INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES, BUT IT'S REALLY NOW NOT REALLY AN INDUSTRIAL AREA BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOMES ADJOINING IT.

THE MAIN ISSUE HERE IS SAFETY CONCERN.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, I DID SUBMIT SOME WRITTEN COMMENTS AS WELL THAT THERE'S ABOUT AVERAGE 90 HELICOPTER CRASHES A YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES.

SEVERAL OF THEM EVERY YEAR ARE IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, ALMOST 1 TO 2 REPORTS EVERY YEAR THAT ARE HIGH PROFILE THAT HIT THE NEWS NATIONALLY, HELICOPTER CRASHING INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I WAS EYE WITNESS TO ONE SUCH CRASH IN 2006.

I USED TO LIVE IN GREEN BAY, WISCONSIN, SO MY HOUSE WAS ADJOINING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THERE WERE SOME CITY COUNTY BUILDINGS, SO THERE WERE EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW, FIRE TRUCKS

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AND OTHER EMERGENCY SERVICES THERE, AND A MEDEVAC HELICOPTER WAS LANDING TRAINED PILOT WHO USED TO DO THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS, SPUN OUT OF CONTROL ABOUT 500FT INTO THE AIR, ALMOST HIT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, BUT LUCKILY HE LANDED INTO THE FIELD AND DIED.

THE TAIL STICKING UP OF THE HELICOPTER INTO THE AIR.

SO THAT WAS QUITE HARROWING TO SEE BECAUSE WE WERE THERE WATCHING IT HAPPEN LIVE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO RELIVE THAT EVER IN MY LIFE WITH MY KIDS GROWING UP IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A DIFFERENT PATH, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT PLAN IS, AND THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE NOT FLYING OVER SOME NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE EVEN TO THE WEST, THERE'S NEIGHBORHOODS IN KELLER THAT ARE NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND SO FORTH.

SO MY REQUEST WOULD BE, Y'ALL RECONSIDER AND BE NEIGHBORLY BECAUSE YOU'RE LIVING OR YOUR BUSINESS IS AMONG SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH YOUNG KIDS GROWING UP THERE AND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO THAT WOULD BE OUR BIGGEST REQUEST, AND IF IT DOES GET TO CITY COUNCIL, I'D COME BACK AGAIN AND ASK THEM TO VOTE NO ON THAT, AND THEN THE OTHER TWO THINGS ARE NOISE CONCERN, POLLUTION, AND JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY VALUES ARE CONCERNED.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE, BUT MY FIRST REACTION WOULD BE IF I KNOW THAT THERE'S A HELICOPTER GOING UP AND DOWN EVERY COUPLE OF DAYS, I THINK THE VALUES ARE GOING TO GET IMPACTED AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

SO THANK YOU, AND AGAIN, PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS IDEA.

OKAY. [APPLAUSE] THANKS. HEY. ALL RIGHT, GUYS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP THE MEETING DECORUM GOING.

SO THIS IS INFORMATIONAL MEETING ONLY.

SO IF WE CAN HOLD THE APPLAUSE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TOM MALLETT.

COME ON. GOOD EVENING.

I WON'T REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID OR IS GOING TO SAY.

BOTTOM LINE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S AN INAPPROPRIATE USE FOR THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S AS SIMPLE AS IT CAN BE.

TAKE YOUR PICK ON ALL THE REASONS, BUT AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN HERE.

THE RESIDENTS OF CREEPED IN, BUT WE'RE ALL HERE, AND IT'S JUST THE BASIC IT'S JUST AN INAPPROPRIATE USE.

THANK YOU. THANKS, TOM.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEVEN TREXLER.

THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH EVERYONE THAT ALL THE STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE WITH EVERYONE ELSE HERE ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE, IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE NOISE.

THERE EVEN ARE A LOT OF US WORK FROM HOME NOWADAYS, AND SO OUR BUSINESS HOURS, IT WOULD BE IMPACTING OUR BUSINESS AS WELL OR OUR TIME AT OUR WORK.

SO. I WOULD DISAPPROVE THIS AS WELL AND VOTE AND ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE NO AS WELL.

THANKS, STEVEN.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PATTI DAVIS.

HELLO AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I ALSO AM A NEIGHBOR WITH MY HUSBAND, TOM, AND WE DO OPPOSE THIS.

WE WANTED TO MAKE THAT KNOWN, BUT I ALSO WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER A SIMILAR ORDINANCE FOR HELICOPTERS AS THEY DO FOR THE AIRPORT, AND THEN ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION I RECENTLY LEARNED OF A TREE CONSERVATION, DEVELOPMENT AND MAP WITH PROTECTED AREAS AND TREES, AND THIS LOCATION IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT AREA.

SO A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER, AND ONE THING I DID NOT HEAR IS WHAT IS THE USE, THE PURPOSE OF NEEDING TO HAVE A HELICOPTER.

IT TRANSPORTS OUR PEOPLE TO PROJECTS.

OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT THE TREES? THERE IS A MAP POSTED BY SOUTHLAKE CALLED TREE CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENTS, AND IT WAS UPDATED IN 2017 OUTLINING ALL THE AREAS THAT THE CITY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MAINTAIN. AS FAR AS THE TREES AND YOUR LOCATION IS SURROUNDED BY THE TREE.

YEAH, WE'RE NOT WE THERE ARE NO TREES.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE ALL THAT WITH THE WE'VE COMPLIED WITH ALL THE TREE REQUIREMENTS WHEN WE BUILT THE BUILDING.

RECENTLY ONE OF THE BUILDINGS SO THAT THE TREES ARE THERE ARE ON ANOTHER LOT.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND HOW AIRCRAFT AND HELICOPTERS OPERATE , AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SAYING THEY COME IN FROM THE WEST AND EXIT TO THE.

YEAH, BUT THEY DON'T OPERATE ON TREES.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. THEY FLY AROUND THEM.

SO THAT'S MY POINT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANKS, PATTI. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DR.

ASHISH SARIN.

I LOVE HELICOPTERS.

I DESIGN THEM. I WORK FOR LOCKHEED MARTIN.

I'M A LOCKHEED MARTIN FELLOW.

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YOU CAN LOOK IT UP IN GOOGLE, WHAT IT MEANS.

WE DESIGNED HAWK HELICOPTERS, F-35S, YOU NAME IT, EVERYTHING.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY 44 ROBINSON 44 CRASHES WE'VE HAD SO FAR.

I'VE SEEN NUMBERS, BUT, YOU KNOW, 623 OF THOSE OVER WHAT.

OVER, WHAT, 30 YEARS? DOESN'T MATTER.

30 YEARS. THAT'S HOW MANY CRASHES? 212 OF THEM WERE FATAL, AND MOST OF US KNOW ONE BIRD STRIKE ON THE TAIL ROTOR, MAIN ROTOR.

YOU COME DOWN LIKE A DEAD DUCK.

A COUPLE MORE THINGS.

1000FT IS A MINIMUM ALTITUDE.

ACCORDING TO THE FAA REGULATIONS THAT YOU TO FLY.

NOW, I KNOW YOU WILL TELL ME YOUR APPROACH PATH WILL BE DIFFERENT.

YOU'LL COME IN FROM OTHER SITES, BUT YOU HIT A BIRD.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO END UP LANDING.

SO OF THOSE 212 STATISTICS, THERE COULD BE 213, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALSO. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT NOISE LEVELS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA FOR THE PISTON ENGINED HELICOPTERS, THEY'RE THE MOST UNSAFE HELICOPTERS COMPARED TO THE TURBINE HELICOPTERS.

SO I COULD GIVE YOU A NUMBER OF STATISTICS.

I COULD BRING YOU MY ACOUSTIC SPECIALIST SAFETY SPECIALIST, AND I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO THE CITY, BUT LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, IT'S JUST NOT THE APPROPRIATE USE.

I LOVE TO HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A LARGE ENOUGH CITY WITH LOTS OF SPACE, WE'D LOVE TO BE LIKE HAMPTONS, BUT NOT IN SOUTHLAKE.

NOT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

NEXT. I'M SORRY.

DON'T MEAN TO BE THE BAD COP, BUT WE CAN KEEP IT GOING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSHUA RILEY.

YEAH. SO I'M THE OWNER, ONE OF THE THREE OWNERS THAT ACTUALLY BACKS UP TO YOU.

SO I'M AT EIGHT 860 DEER.

I'M THE CORNER LOT RIGHT UP THERE.

I'LL SHOW YOU. DEER HOLLOW.

YEP. DEER HOLLOW RIGHT HERE.

THE ONE WITH THE POOL RIGHT HERE I'M POINTING TO.

THAT'S ME. SO.

I HAVE A FIVE AND A SEVEN YEAR OLD.

WE'RE ALWAYS OUT IN THE BACKYARD, SO I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE OUT THERE WITH YOU HAVING YOUR HELICOPTER TAKEN OFF FOUR TIMES IN A WEEK.

I ALSO WORK FROM HOME THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, SO THAT WOULD BE DISTRACTING.

SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE REASON BEHIND THIS.

WHEN THERE'S FIVE AIRPORTS WITHIN 17 MILES THAT YOU GUYS CAN TAKE YOUR HELICOPTER TO AND LAND, TAKE OFF, DO WHATEVER RATHER THAN BE IN MY BACKYARD. YOU KNOW, FOUR TIMES A DAY OR FOUR TIMES A WEEK.

SO, YOU KNOW.

SO I'M AGAINST THIS.

I JUST I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE ACTUALLY PROPOSED THIS.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS OUT OF CONVENIENCE, BUT HOW ABOUT YOU DRIVE TO THE AIRPORT AND TAKE YOUR YOUR HELICOPTER FROM THERE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS MARY LEE ALFORD.

OH, SORRY. DIFFERENT ITEM.

ALL RIGHT, MARY LEE. NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL CARTER.

PROBABLY A GOOD 20 YEARS AGO.

I SIT THROUGH PRESENTATIONS AT SPIN AT PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL ON WHAT I THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLY THE MOST INSANE PROPOSAL THAT I HAD EVER HEARD FROM FOR SOUTHLAKE.

THAT WAS WHEN A DEVELOPER WANTED TO PUT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OF MANUFACTURED HOUSING, AND FORTUNATELY THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY REFUSED.

THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY A STEP BEYOND THAT.

IT MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

YOU WILL AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES.

YOU SUBMIT US TO POSSIBLE SERIOUS DAMAGE THROUGH ACCIDENTS.

WHO KNOWS WHEN YOUR HELICOPTER WANTS TO LAND? WHAT DIRECTION THE WIND IS GOING TO BE BLOWING FROM THAT DAY.

THERE IS NO LOGICAL REASON TO HAVE THAT.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS I'M SORRY, JAN BLANCHARD.

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I SAY THAT RIGHT. SORRY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I WILL LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST 500FT FROM THE PROPOSED HELIPAD SITE.

SO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S TO THE NORTH.

OR ARE YOU NORTH? THE HIDDEN KNOLL? YES, TO THE NORTH. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING SAID, AND WE WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE A HELICOPTER LANDING CLOSE TO OUR HOMES , BUT JUST MAYBE TO UNDERSTAND A BIT MORE, WHEN YOU SAID IT'S SERVICING FOR YOUR PEOPLE, COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL? IS IT FOR YOUR CLIENTS OR WHAT TYPE OF WHY DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A HELICOPTER HERE? AND THEN ALSO, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE AIRPORT OR OTHER LOCATION THAT ARE IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA? THANK YOU. WELL, AS I SAID, IT'S TO PICK UP OUR PEOPLE AND TAKE THEM AROUND DALLAS FORT WORTH , AND THAT'S ALL IT'S FOR.

TO OUR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON SO THEY CAN SURVEY THE PROJECTS.

STAN, WOULD YOU MIND ELABORATING WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS AND WHAT TYPE OF PEOPLE WILL BE IN CIRCULATING IN THE HELICOPTER? IT'S A CONTRACTING BUSINESS, AND THE PROJECT ENGINEERS AND MANAGERS ARE THE ONES THAT FLY.

THEY GO TO THE PROJECTS AND OVERSEE THEM.

STAN, IF YOU COULD JUST REPEAT FOR SOME OF THEM WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS.

I'M SORRY. WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS? IF YOU COULD REPEAT FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS HERE.

IT'S WE BUILD WE'RE CONTRACTORS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT SPEAKER IS, AH, RILEY AND NORA.

OKAY. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS AMANDA DURAN.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN LOCATED AT THIS BUSINESS? UH, 30 YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND HOW ARE YOU CURRENTLY TRANSPORTING YOUR CONTRACTORS? THEY'RE DRIVING.

OKAY. I CAN TELL YOU, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HEAR HELICOPTERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU HEAR THEM BECAUSE IT'S EITHER A MEDICAL EMERGENCY OR THERE'S A SUSPECT ON THE LOOSE.

IT'S A PRETTY RARE OCCURRENCE THAT YOU HEAR HELICOPTERS ON A ROUTINE BASIS IN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ALL PRESENT HERE TODAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE CONCERNS WITH CHILDREN AROUND DISTRACTED DRIVERS LOOKING AT HELICOPTERS BECAUSE IT IS A RARE OCCURRENCE, CERTAINLY CAUSES CONCERN AS A PARENT WHOSE CHILDREN GO TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NEARBY, AS WELL AS THE NOISE POLLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND I KNOW YOU'VE REFERENCED THAT IT'S NOT NOISY, THIS TYPE OF AIRCRAFT, BUT I THINK THE SAFETY CONCERNS ARE THE GREATEST CONCERN.

I WORK FROM HOME.

I DO HEAR THE HELICOPTERS THAT ARE PRESENT FOR MEDICAL EMERGENCIES OR POLICE HELICOPTERS.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR RECURRENCE TWICE A WEEK LANDING AND DEPARTING.

SO FOUR TIMES TO JOSH'S POINT.

SO I PREFER AND I'D LIKE THE COUNCIL TO KNOW AN ADDITIONAL PARTY THAT'S AGAINST IT, AND AMANDA, YOU SUBMITTED A COMMENT, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THAT INTO THE RECORD AS WELL. AMANDA DURAN I LIVE IN SOUTHLAKE WOODS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M OPPOSED TO THE HELICOPTER PAD BEING ERECTED AT 2000 GREENWOOD DRIVE.

NOISE FROM THE HELICOPTER AND THE DUST AND DEBRIS GENERATED BY THE AIRCRAFT WOULD NOT BE IDEAL FOR OUR ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHERIAN ABRAHAM.

I THINK WE'D LIKE SOME CONSTRUCTING.

WHAT ARE WE CONTRACTING? WHAT ARE YOU CONSTRUCTING? WE'RE BUILDING BUILDINGS.

DIFFERENT KINDS.

OKAY. SO ARE YOU RIGHT NOW USING THE HELICOPTER FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE? I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THAT? ARE YOU USING THE HELICOPTER AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION RIGHT NOW? NO. SO YOU'RE NOT USING A HELICOPTER FOR ANY OF YOUR.

WELL, IT HAS ITS OWN HANGAR THAT IT STAYS AT, AND WE USE IT FROM THERE, AND WHERE IS THAT? FORT WORTH. IS THERE A REASON WHY IT HAS TO BE CLOSE TO ALL OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, ALL OUR CHILDREN? THERE'S A PRESCHOOL NEARBY.

THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NEARBY AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHAT IS THE REASON THAT IT HAS TO BE THIS MUCH CLOSER? HOW CLOSE? HOW MUCH CLOSER DO YOU WANT IT TO BE RIGHT NOW? WHAT'S THE DRIVING DISTANCE FROM FORT WORTH TO THE CURRENT LOCATION? IT'S NOT THE DISTANCE YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

PROBABLY 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR TO GET FROM MEACHAM TO THERE.

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OKAY, SO YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE 45 MINUTES OF TIME.

OKAY. IN SAVING 45 MINUTES OF TIME, I WANT TO SUBMIT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DESTROY OUR SENSE OF SAFETY LIVING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO OUR SENSE OF SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN WHO ARE ATTENDING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PRESCHOOLS, WHICH ARE A DENSELY POPULATED AREA.

THERE'S A REASON WHY AIRPORTS ARE BUILT IN CERTAIN AREAS OR HELICOPTER LANDING PADS ARE IN CERTAIN AREAS AWAY FROM POPULATED AREAS.

PRECISELY. FOR THAT REASON, YOUR SPECIFIC HELICOPTER HAS THE HIGHEST ACCIDENT RATE OF ANY HELICOPTER IN THE ENTIRE USA.

I THINK THAT'S A MATTER OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT STATISTICALLY.

WE'VE FLOWN THESE THINGS FOR 3000 HOURS.

AND NO PROBLEM. IT'S ALL VERY SAFE UNTIL AN ACCIDENT HAPPENS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY CHILDREN OR ANY RELATIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY OR IN THE SCHOOL? THEY HAVE FLOWN IN THE HELICOPTER MANY TIMES.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU ABOUT FLYING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY CHILDREN OR RELATIVES LIVING IN CURRENTLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE ARE AFFECTED OR IN THE SCHOOL? NO, THEY'RE DOWN FURTHER.

YES. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF YOU REALLY DID HAVE CHILDREN NEARBY OR YOUR OWN FAMILY NEARBY, YOU WOULD NOT BE ASKING FOR THIS, ARE YOU? I SUBMIT TO THE COUNCIL THAT IF ANYTHING LIKE THIS IS CONSIDERED AGAIN AT THE COUNCIL, WE WILL YOU WILL FIND VERY DEEP OPPOSITION TO IT.

THANK YOU. ARE YOU AWARE THAT BELL HELICOPTER FLIES MANY FLIGHTS RIGHT OVER THAT LOCATION IN ROUTE FROM THEIR PLANT IN HURST TO ALLIANCE, RIGHT OVER THE SAME AREA? ALL RIGHT, AND CHERIAN ALSO SUBMITTED A COMMENT ONLINE, SO WE'LL READ THAT INTO THE RECORD.

I AM WRITING TO STRONGLY OBJECT TO THE PROPOSAL FOR A HELICOPTER PAD THAT WILL BE ADJACENT TO MY HOUSE AND TO THE CARROLL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHERE MY CHILD ATTENDS.

A HELICOPTER PAD IN THIS AREA IS VERY DANGEROUS IDEA AND SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY DISMISSED CONSIDERING THE EXTREME DANGER.

A HELICOPTER CRASH CAN PRESENT TO THE CLOSE BY HOUSES AND TO THE SCHOOL.

CHILDREN, CHILDREN.

HELICOPTERS ARE NOT SUITABLE TO BE NEAR THIS AREA FOR THE HIGH CRASH DANGER AS WELL AS POLLUTION FROM FUEL FUMES AND NOISE POLLUTION.

THE AREAS ADJACENT ARE DENSELY POPULATED WITH HOUSES AND SCHOOLS AND ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE HELICOPTER PAD.

SO PLEASE TURN DOWN THIS PROPOSAL.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MACARENA VILLALOBOS.

HI. I'M HERE JUST TO PUT A FACE ON THE PEOPLE OF THE NEIGHBOR OF HIRONO.

I LIVE LIKE A COUPLE OF FEET BEHIND THE A HELICOPTER PAD THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING.

I'M EXPECTING TWINS.

I'M SEVEN MONTHS PREGNANT, AND MY KIDS WILL NOT HAVE A BUSINESS HOURS FOR NAPS, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THE SOUND AND NOISE OF THE HELICOPTERS ARE GOING TO WAKE THEM UP.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING ALL THE MOMS. THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND YOU HAVE MORE OPTIONS TO PUT YOUR HELICOPTER HERE.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS HELEN WONG.

GOOD EVENING.

I OPPOSE FOR THE RECORD THIS PROPOSAL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS AS TO WHY, BECAUSE A LOT OF YOU FOLKS HERE HAVE ALREADY SPOKE ABOUT IT.

HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT.

SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS PROPOSAL WAS PUT OUT AS A CONVENIENCE FOR THE BUSINESS.

HOWEVER, THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT WE RESIDENTS WILL BE.

IMPACT IT WITH.

WE DID NOT SIGN UP FOR IT.

SO FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS THAT THIS PROPOSAL WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, PROPERTY VALUES, AND IT'S NOT FAIR THAT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOW INTRODUCING HAVE THIS RISK OF ACCIDENTS AND WHATNOT AFTER WE ALL HAVE BOUGHT INTO A DEVELOPMENT, AND JUST BECAUSE YOUR IT SERVES A CONVENIENCE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN CURRENTLY USING RIGHT NOW.

A SECOND POINT IS ALSO, DOES THE CITY HAVE THE CAPABILITY OR THE RESOURCE

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TO MONITOR AND ENFORCE THE COMPLIANCE OF THE APPLICANT'S USE? I THINK THIS WAS MENTIONED BY ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN'S BEFORE THAT.

WHO ARE WE GOING TO WHO'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF APPLICANT SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT X NUMBER OF TIMES A WEEK? PATH. A FLIGHT IS A CERTAIN WAY, BUT IS THE CITY PREPARED OR EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY? TO MONITOR THAT, THAT IT IS FULLY COMPLIANT AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE OVER TIME.

SO I THINK THOSE ARE MY TWO.

ADD ON TO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE ALREADY SAID.

SO I URGE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL REALLY CONSIDER.

THIS PROPOSAL AND REALLY VOTE IT DOWN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR. TANEJA, WHO SPOKE EARLIER, ALSO SUBMITTED COMMENT ONLINE.

SO WE'LL READ THAT INTO THE RECORD.

I'M OPPOSED TO HAVING A HELICOPTER PAD SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND SCHOOLS.

IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE REPORTS OF HELICOPTERS CRASHING.

92 WERE REPORTED IN 2020 ALONE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL NEWS STORIES OF HELICOPTERS CRASHING IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

WE ALSO RECEIVED COMMENT CARDS FROM INDIVIDUALS THAT DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK.

SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD.

FIRST ONE IS WILLIAM SPRINGS.

SURE. COME ON UP.

SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT IF YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND, JUST LET ME KNOW AND YOU CAN COME ON UP AND SPEAK.

SO GLAD YOU CAME UP, AT LEAST TO TALK ABOUT IT.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT'S A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY FROM A BIG PICTURE PERSPECTIVE.

IT'S A BENEFIT TO ONE AT THE EXPENSE OF MANY.

UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE ROBINSON HELICOPTER.

I HOLD AN EXPERIMENTAL FLIGHT RATING.

I AM A CREDENTIALED AVIATION SAFETY OFFICER.

I'VE GOT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF FLIGHT HOURS.

I HAVE HAD EVERY EMERGENCY YOU COULD EVER HAVE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CRASHING.

YOUR PROPOSED.

IT'LL APPROACH FROM THE WEST 500FT AND DROP DOWN IS THE PERFECT.

EXECUTION OF A LANDING OR A REVERSE TAKEOFF.

MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT IT'S NOT REALITY AND IT ONLY TAKES ONE TIME TO TAKE THAT REALITY AND SHATTER IT INTO SOMETHING TRULY HORRIFIC. I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT'S NOT REALLY BEEN EXPRESSED STRONGLY ENOUGH IS PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT TO PURCHASE A HOME IN THESE AREAS WHEN THEY HEAR THERE'S A HELICOPTER OPERATION, THAT WILL DIMINISH PROPERTY VALUES.

MY SUGGESTION IS.

IT'S A BENEFIT TO ONE, BUT IT'S A NEGATIVE TO ALL THE REST OF US.

I WOULD OPPOSE AGAINST IT.

THANK YOU. NEXT COMMENT IS FROM BETSY BIRMINGHAM.

THIS HELICOPTER PAD WOULD BE LOCATED NEXT TO OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN ADDITION TO THE INCREASED NOISE WHICH POSES ISSUES FOR THOSE WHO WORK FROM HOME, IS THE INCREASED RISK TO PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD THE HELICOPTER LOSE POWER AND CRASH.

NEXT COMMENT IS FROM JOE PARR.

I OPPOSE THE HELICOPTER PAD.

IT'S NEAR A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WILL BE A DANGEROUS NUISANCE.

NEXT COMMENT IS FROM ANGELA TREXLER.

THERE IS NO COMMENT.

NEXT COMMENT IS FROM LOUIS COLLAR.

PARK YOUR HELICOPTER AT AN AIRPORT.

OKAY. NEXT COMMENT IS FROM DEIRDRE BLANCHARD, AND THE COMMENT IS I'M OPPOSED TO A HELICOPTER PAD AT 2000 GREENWOOD DRIVE AS I RESIDE IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY. NEXT COMMENT IS FROM SCOTT RIPPA, WHO SUBMITTED AN ONLINE FORM.

SO WE'LL GRAB THAT AND READ IT INTO THE RECORD.

GOT IT. OKAY.

THE BOARD OF SOUTHLAKE WOODS, REPRESENTING OVER 165 TAXPAYING FAMILIES IN SOUTHLAKE, HAS LEARNED THAT THERE IS AN APPLICATION UNDER REVIEW TO BUILD A HELICOPTER PAD ON A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BUILDING NEXT TO OUR SUBDIVISION AT 2000 GREENWOOD DRIVE IN SOUTHLAKE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO PROTEST THIS APPLICATION AS WE STRONGLY OBJECT TO THE PRESENCE OF SUCH A HELICOPTER PAD RIGHT BEHIND OUR RESIDENCES, HAVING HELICOPTERS FLYING OVER OUR

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NEIGHBORHOOD WITH GREAT FREQUENCY, CAUSING NOISE POLLUTION AND CREATING SAFETY RISKS TO OUR TAXPAYING RESIDENTS.

SOUTHLAKE IS A COMMUNITY WITH A RURAL FEEL.

AS MAYOR HUFFMAN ONCE STATED, QUOTE, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE MOVE INTENTIONALLY.

THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE'S WEST AREA HAS OVER 500 HOMES AND FIVE DIFFERENT ASSOCIATIONS, WITH A MEDIAN HOME PRICE OF $1.2 MILLION DOLLARS.

IF THIS APPLICATION IS GRANTED, I'M NOT SURE HOW ACCURATE MAYOR HUFFMAN'S QUOTE WOULD BE.

WHY WOULD ANY HOMEBUYER WANT TO INTENTIONALLY BUY A HOME IN A NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT TO A HELICOPTER PAD? HAVING A HELIPORT BUILT FOR ONE BUSINESSMAN SHOULD NOT TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER THE 500 TAXPAYERS OF WEST SOUTHLAKE.

WE URGE YOU TO DENY THIS APPLICATION.

OKAY. NEXT COMMENT IS FROM CARLOS REYES.

WHAT ARE THE REGULATIONS FOR AN AIRCRAFT? ACCOMMODATIONS IN PROXIMITY TO HOUSING.

SO THAT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A QUESTION THEN.

THE FEDERAL AVIATION REGULATIONS FAR, FAR 91 119, AND IT PERMITS THAT, AND IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS, A HELICOPTER MAY BE OPERATING LESS THAN MINIMUMS, AND IN ANY SECTION OF THAT COMPLIES WITH THE ROUTES AND ALTITUDES AND B AND C, WHICH THE ROUTES AND ALTITUDES ARE IN FLIGHT, BUT WHEN IT'S LANDING, THAT DOESN'T APPLY.

THANK YOU, AND NEXT COMMENT IS FROM ROBERTA HILL.

OBJECT TO HELICOPTER TO BE LOCATED AT 2000 GREENWOOD DRIVE? YES, PLEASE. COME ON UP.

MY NAME IS ROBERTA HILL AND I LIVE IN SOUTHLAKE WOODS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE DIRECTED DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY YOUR ADDING A HELIPAD, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PROFESSIONALS IN THE AVIATION ASSOCIATION THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT.

HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN THE RESULTS OF A HELICOPTER CRASH? I WAS SERVING WITH A GERMAN IN GERMANY, THE UNITED STATES ARMY, AT THE WIESBADEN AIR BASE.

A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, OBVIOUSLY I WAS MUCH YOUNGER, AND I SAW THE DIRECT RESULTS OF A HELICOPTER CRASH.

IN THE AIRFIELD DIRECTLY BEHIND MY BUILDING, AN AIRCRAFT THAT WAS FLOWN BY INCREDIBLY EXPERIENCED MILITARY AVIATORS.

NOW, I'M SURE THAT WHOEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, HIRING WILL BE EQUALLY EXPERIENCED, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE TRAUMA THAT THOSE OF US SUFFERED HAVING BEEN THERE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'D WANT TO SEE IN MY BACK YARD, FRANKLY.

OUR FOUR BOYS HAVE GROWN IN MOSTLY LEFT THE HOUSE, BUT THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF US HERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE GRANDCHILDREN, THAT HAVE SMALL CHILDREN, THAT HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS LIVING WITH THEM.

I'VE SEEN DIRECTLY AND PERSONALLY AND UP CLOSE AND UP FRONT THE RESULTS OF A HELICOPTER CRASH.

IT KILLED THREE YOUNG MEN, LEFT FAMILIES DEVASTATED, AND QUITE FRANKLY, EVEN FOR PROFESSIONALLY SERVING OFFICERS, IT WAS A DIFFICULT THING TO LIVE WITH.

COULDN'T HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT, AND WE UNDERSTAND ACCIDENTS HAPPEN, SIR , BUT I DO NOT WANT TO REPEAT WHAT WAS A HORRIFYING EXPERIENCE FOR ME.

I WOULD HATE TO SEE ANYBODY ELSE'S FAMILY DEVASTATED THE SAME WAY, AND I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PUT EVEN A SINGLE LANDING PAD FOR A SINGLE HELICOPTER SO CLOSE TO SO MANY FAMILIES, TO A SCHOOL, TO THE OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES AROUND YOU.

I'D ASK YOU TO PLEASE RECONSIDER AND THINK ABOUT PUTTING YOUR HELIPAD CLOSER TO AN AREA THAT'S DESTINED FOR FLIGHTS IN AND OUT, THAT HAS TRAINED CREWS THAT ARE THERE TO HANDLE ANY SORT OF ACCIDENT PROBLEMS. I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THE SOUTHLAKE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE A HELICOPTER THAT WENT DOWN IN ONE OF THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS.

I UNDERSTAND HELICOPTER ACCIDENTS ARE RARE, BUT YOU ONLY NEED TO SEE ONE TO UNDERSTAND HOW DEVASTATING THEY CAN BE.

I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER.

EVEN IF IT'S ONLY SEVERAL FLIGHTS A WEEK.

BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE IN A PLACE AS DENSELY POPULATED AS OUR SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, AS CLOSE TO THE OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES.

I DO APPRECIATE WHAT IT'S LIKE RUNNING A SMALL BUSINESS IN THIS DAY AND AGE, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRYING TO BE MORE EFFICIENT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE PERHAPS BETTER PLACEMENTS FOR HELICOPTER EVEN COMING IN ONCE OR TWICE.

IT ONLY TAKES ONE ACCIDENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN TERRELL.

SIR. I'M NOT EVEN HERE ACTUALLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THIS EVENING, BUT IN LISTENING TO ALL THE CITIZENS AND HAVING SPENT 12 YEARS AS CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR OF THE CITY, I WOULD APPEAL TO YOU THAT.

TO WITHDRAW YOUR APPLICATION.

I CANNOT EVEN FATHOM THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD EVER APPROVE THIS USE, ESPECIALLY AFTER LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS.

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I THINK IT WOULD KIND OF EXTEND A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

IT WOULD KEEP YOUR THE FOLKS AROUND YOU HAPPY WITH YOUR BUSINESS.

MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS BASICALLY IS GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME COMING TO MEETINGS SAYING THE SAME THINGS, AND I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE TO YOU WITH THIS KIND OF RESPONSE AND THAT'S WHAT SPIN IS ALL ABOUT, BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THIS COMMUNITY YET, AND SO THIS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO COME OUT AND TELL YOU WHAT THEY THINK, AND REALLY FOR THE CONVENIENCE FOR YOU VERSUS THE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS, VERY DIFFICULT, AND I JUST SERIOUSLY DOUBT COUNCIL IS GOING TO APPROVE IT, AND I WOULD JUST APPEAL TO YOU THAT YOU WOULD WITHDRAW IT AND NOT HAVE THESE PEOPLE COME TO COUNCIL LATER.

THANK YOU, SIR. WE ALSO RECEIVED ALMOST 50 EMAIL AND ONLINE SUBMISSIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM, AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE ARE JUST GOING TO READ A FEW SELECTED SUBMISSIONS.

FIRST ONE IS FROM SANJAY VORA BHATHENA.

I'M WRITING TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSAL FOR A HELICOPTER IN SOUTHLAKE AT 2000 GREENWOOD DRIVE.

IT IS A VERY BAD IDEA GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO THE NUMBER OF SUBDIVISIONS AND SCHOOLS, AND OUR NEXT ONE IS FROM SONIA KHAN.

MY 84 YEAR OLD MOM LIVING WITH DEMENTIA WILL BE OVERSTIMULATED AND DISTURBED BY THE LOUD AND PERSISTENT NOISE FROM THE HELICOPTER, TAKEOFF AND LANDING.

ANXIETY AND AGITATION WILL AFFECT HER QUALITY OF LIFE, ALONG WITH OTHER SENIOR RESIDENTS AND DISABLED CHILDREN AND ADULTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THERE WILL BE NO SAFE OR QUIETER PLACE TO MOVE HER TO IN OUR HOME.

THE LOUD NOISE FROM THE HELICOPTER OPERATION COULD POTENTIALLY DAMAGE NOT ONLY OUR DELICATE MIDDLE AND INNER EAR, BUT OUR PETS HEARING AS WELL.

THE NOISE INDUCED HEARING LOSS WILL AFFECT ALL OF US AS WELL AS ALL ANIMALS LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE SEE OUR PETS DURING A THUNDERSTORM TREMBLING, BARKING AND HOWLING, AND NOW INTRODUCING AN ANXIETY INDUCING, STRESSFUL HELICOPTER SITUATION IS INHUMANE.

THE APPROACH AND DEPARTURE PATHS OVER OUR HOUSES WILL INVADE OUR PRIVACY AND ENDANGER OUR FAMILIES, PETS, PROPERTY AND VEHICLES WITH FLYING DEBRIS, INCLUDING STICKS, STONES, DIRT, BIRDS, POWER LINES, FALLEN EQUIPMENT, ANXIETY CAUSED BY THE POTENTIAL DAMAGE AND LOSS OF LIFE TO US AND OUR PETS.

SIMPLY PLAYING AND BARBECUING IN OUR BEAUTIFUL PATIOS AND BACKYARDS WILL BE FRONT AND CENTER.

IT WILL AFFECT OUR PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH.

THE HELIPAD WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO PROPERTY VALUES AS RESALE VALUES WILL DROP DUE TO NOISE, NUISANCE AND THERE IS POSSIBILITY OF POTENTIAL CRASHES.

OUR PROPERTY AND VEHICLE INSURANCE MAY BE IMPACTED AS A RESULT.

AS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, HELICOPTERS EMIT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF EMISSIONS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE DUE TO THEIR FUEL CONSUMPTION DURING THEIR FLIGHTS, ESPECIALLY LANDING AND TAKEOFF CYCLE. THE MOST COMMON EMISSION THAT AN AIRCRAFT EMITS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE IS CARBON DIOXIDE.

IN ONE FLIGHT HOUR, THE HELICOPTER EMITS 500KG OF CARBON DIOXIDE.

OUR ENVIRONMENT KEEPS US ALIVE, AND WE NEED TO RESPECT AND CARE FOR OUR LIVING SPACE.

OUR SOUTHLAKE NOISE NUISANCE ORDINANCE WAS CREATED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT DISTURBED, ANNOYED AND OUR CALM, COMFORT, HEALTH AND SAFETY ARE NOT VIOLATED.

WHETHER WE LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPOSED SITE OR NEAR IT.

AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY.

NOISE AND POLLUTION STUDIES, AS WELL AS COMPASSION FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE LOUD NOISES, NEEDS TO BE WEIGHED IN.

WE URGE THE CITY TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR A PERMIT APPLICATION TO PUT IN A HELIPAD AT 2000 GREENWOOD DRIVE AND PUT ITS RESIDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES PETS AND ENVIRONMENT FIRST.

STAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.

OH, CAN I? YES, SIR.

COME ON UP. HI. WHAT IS YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS JOE BRENNAN. WE JUST MOVED IN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHAT THE HECK IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? YEAH, WELL, NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW FOR, WHAT, 4 OR 5 WEEKS, AND EVERYONE HAS GOT REALLY GREAT POINTS.

I CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING A HELICOPTER PAD IN MY BACKYARD, BUT IF I HAD KNOWN THAT BEFORE I BOUGHT THE HOUSE, I WOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT THE HOUSE.

SO I GOT TO OBJECT TO IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO BE IMPACTED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL AT THE END OF THE DAY SO NEGATIVELY, AND IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

I WOULD NEVER HAVE BOUGHT THE HOUSE HAD I KNOWN THERE WAS GOING TO BE A HELICOPTER PAD 200 YARDS FROM IT.

SO AND THAT'S HOW EVERYONE ELSE IS GOING TO FEEL WHEN THEY COME IN.

THEY SAY, I'M NOT BUYING IN HERE.

WHY THE HECK WOULD I BUY THERE'S A HELICOPTER BEHIND ME, SO I GOT TO OBJECT.

THANKS. THANK YOU. COME ON.

I WAS IN ADVERTISING FOR 15 YEARS.

WHAT IS YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? MY NAME IS CARRIE THANKS. THE VILLAGE OF HIDDEN KNOLL, AND HAVING DONE ADVERTISING FOR 15 YEARS.

IT'S A BIT OF FALSE ADVERTISING.

I TAKE A QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM THE TOWN OF SOUTHLAKE'S WEBSITE, WHICH DESCRIBES OUR COMMUNITY AS BALANCING SOPHISTICATED LIVING WITH A NEIGHBORLY COMMUNITY.

SOUTHLAKE TEXAS PROVIDES THE PERFECT OASIS FROM THE FRENZY OF DALLAS FORT WORTH.

SOUTHLAKE'S PREMIER URBAN PLANNING AND ATTENTION TO THE SMALLEST DETAILS MAKES SURE YOUR STAY IS PERFECTLY ENJOYABLE, AND SO I THINK THIS IS VERY

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CONTRARY TO HOW SOUTHLAKE IS ADVERTISED AND WHY PEOPLE LIKE THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME, WHY WE ALL CHOSE TO LIVE HERE.

SO I WOULD VOTE NO.

THANK YOU. SO THE REMAINDER OF THE EMAILS AND ONLINE SUBMISSIONS WILL BE PLACED INTO THE RECORD. OH, YES.

COME ON UP. SORRY, AND WHAT IS YOUR NAME? I'M SUDHIR UPADHYAYA, AND I'M.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK ONE QUESTION, AND I'M HERE TO [INAUDIBLE], NOT TO HIM.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW MANY OF US ARE HERE TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSAL OF THIS HELICOPTER PAD? YEAH, I JUST.

ENOUGH POINTS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT OUT, BUT YEAH, I'M JUST WANTING TO JUST REITERATE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, GREAT. SO THE REMAINDER OF THE ONLINE SUBMISSIONS AND EMAILS WILL BE PLACED INTO THE RECORD AND THE CITY STAFF CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU WITH AN INQUIRY.

SO, STAN, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.

IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE AFTER THIS ITEM, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT, PLEASE.

THE REASON THAT WE DID THIS IS SO WE COULD HEAR EVERYBODY.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN, AND YOU KNOW WASN'T WE WANTED TO HEAR, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF IT WAS.

SO IT LETS US KNOW HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT IT, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL RECONSIDER.

THANK YOU. THANKS, STAN.

[APPLAUSE] GIVE IT A SECOND.

YEAH. THANKS.

WELL, THANK YOU, STAN.

WE DO HAVE THREE OTHER ITEMS. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO STEP OUTSIDE FOR THE CONVERSATIONS AND WE'LL CONTINUE THE MEETING.

THANK YOU.

RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY, LET'S CONTINUE.

I DON'T THINK THESE WILL BE.

NO, IT SHOULD BE EXCITING.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM.

SCOTT ELLERMAN IS HERE TO PRESENT OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN 2023-14.

[3. SPIN2023-14 - An applicant is proposing to develop four (4) office warehouse shell buildings on approximately 33.7 acres located at 2100 Mustang Ct. within SPIN Neighborhood #8.]

AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE SHELL BUILDINGS ON APPROXIMATELY 33.7 ACRES LOCATED AT 2100 MUSTANG COURT WITHIN SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER EIGHT. CAN I CONTROL THE PRESENTATION FROM THIS? JUST. OKAY, GREAT. UH, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

THANK FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS SCOTT ELLERMAN.

I'M THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT.

A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR SITE PLAN.

WE'LL FIRST I GUESS I'LL START WITH THE LOCATION.

THIS IS LOCATED AT 2100 MUSTANG COURT.

THIS IS ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE ON THE INTERSECTION OF MUSTANG DRIVE AND IRA WOODS.

WE DESIGNED. WHAT THIS CURRENTLY IS, IS A MAGELLAN PIPELINE TERMINAL HERE ON THE I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT ON THE LEFT SIDE.

IT CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 33 ACRES.

WHAT WE HAVE DESIGNED IN LIEU OF THIS OPERATION THAT THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE DEEMED LAST NIGHT, THE TANK FARM IS A FOUR BUILDING BUSINESS PARK AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

REALLY, WHAT WENT INTO THE DESIGN OF THIS BUSINESS PARK WAS TO ATTRACT PROSPECTIVE TENANTS OF LIGHT DISTRIBUTION, MANUFACTURING, ASSEMBLY USE THAT REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FROM A TYPICAL INDUSTRIAL USE AND GREATLY ENHANCE THE ESTHETIC AND OPERATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON CURRENTLY ON SITE.

I'LL GO BACK TO THE CONTRAST HERE.

SO THAT MEANS THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED TO ALLOW FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

THERE ARE SEVERAL OPERATIONS THAT CAN GO UNDER THIS USE ANYWHERE FROM A FACTORY TO INDUSTRIAL OUTSIDE STORAGE TO THIS CURRENT PIPELINE TERMINAL.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS MORE OF A LIGHTER INDUSTRIAL USE, MORE OF A BUSINESS OPERATION.

THESE FOUR BUILDINGS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT TYPICALLY ATTRACT MORE HEAVY OFFICE USERS, LESS TRAFFIC USERS, MORE EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM A BLEND OF BLUE AND WHITE COLLAR OPERATIONS AND DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE COULD ACCOMMODATE A VERY SIGNIFICANT TAXPAYER AND WOULD WELCOME A LOT OF NEW GROWING JOBS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.

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AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SHOW SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT WE HAVE OF THIS.

THIS FOR BUILDING BUSINESS PARK.

THIS ONE ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS JUST OF THE OPPOSITE VANTAGE POINT FROM THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.

THESE ARE THE STOREFRONTS THE OFFICE ENTRANCES FOR SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS, AND FINALLY, ONE POINT OF EMPHASIS I WANT TO MAKE.

WE ARE HEAVILY LANDSCAPING THIS AREA.

WE ARE CREATING A SIGNIFICANT BUFFER OF TREES SO THAT WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING ALONG OUR WOODS, YOU ARE NOT LOOKING INTO THE ENCAPSULATED TRUCKING AND LOADING AREA.

ALSO, ALONG EVERY SINGLE BOUNDARY OF THE SITE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE STOREFRONTS THAT WE JUST PRESENTED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE SO THAT IT DOES PRESENT MORE IT IS MORE ESTHETIC THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON SITE.

AND TO THE RESIDENTIAL, THE VERY FEW RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS TO OUR LOT ON THIS NORTHWEST SIDE.

SO I'LL POINT HERE WITH MY MOUSE.

THIS IS THE PLAN HERE IS THIS IS TRUE NORTHWEST.

SO ON THIS NORTHWEST SIDE WHERE THESE RESIDENTIAL LOTS ARE IN ORDER TO EFFECTIVELY BALANCE THE SITE, WE ARE BUILDING ABOUT A 15 FOOT RETAINING WALL, AN ADDITION TO THAT RETAINING WALL AS SHOWN ON THIS EXHIBIT UP HERE, YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER 15FT OF TREES AND HEAVILY LANDSCAPED AREAS.

AND SO WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK OUT, THE VANTAGE POINT WILL BE LOOKING DOWN.

YOU WON'T REALLY SEE A LOT OF THE OPERATIONS.

YOU WILL NOT SEE ANY OF THE TRUCKING AREAS, ANY OF THE LOADING AREAS, AND ANY OF THE LIGHTS THAT WILL BE ON SITE WILL NOT BE FACING THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND WILL NOT BE TALL ENOUGH.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS. THERE WAS ONE MORE.

I GUESS I GO HERE FOR IT.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

OKAY. GOT. ANOTHER CLARIFICATION I WANTED TO MAKE.

OH, HERE WE GO. AFTER OUR CORRIDOR COMMITTEE MEETING LAST NIGHT, THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ADD MORE TREES.

THIS RENDERING THAT YOU'RE SEEING PRIMARILY IS PUT TOGETHER TO ENHANCE THE STOREFRONTS AND THE BUILDINGS.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE TAKEN OUT OF THIS RENDERING IN ORDER TO SHOW WHAT WHAT IS BEING LAID OUT, BUT ONE THING THAT WE DID WANT TO STRESS AFTER YESTERDAY'S MEETING, WE DID MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

AS YOU'LL SEE, WE ADDED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TREES ON THIS SOUTHERN END OF THE SITE ALONG THE NORTHERN AND NORTHWEST PART OF THE SITE, AND WE TOOK OUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PARKING IN ORDER TO ADD TWO MORE TREES, AND I'LL JUST SCROLL THROUGH SOME OF THESE OTHER ITERATIONS , AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, SCOTT.

THIS ITEM IS NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

WE ASK THAT THOSE WITH QUESTIONS, PLEASE USE THE MICROPHONES IN THE AISLES SO THOSE WATCHING FROM HOME CAN HEAR.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE. PLEASE COME ON UP.

WE ACTUALLY CAME FOR SOMETHING.

CHRIS IF YOU CAN IF YOU DON'T MIND USING THE MICROPHONE JUST SO THAT ALL YOUR FANS AT HOME CAN HEAR YOU, I'M CURIOUS.

THE BUILDING LOOKS GREAT.

THIS IS WAY BETTER THAN OLD TANKS, BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT ONE THING IS ON THESE OLD TANKS RIGHT HERE, WERE THESE PETROLEUM? YES. THESE TANKS CONSISTED OF PETROLEUM ETHANOL.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, COOL.

WHICH I LOVE HAVING THOSE RIPPED OUT AND SOMETHING NICE PUT IN, BUT I'M CURIOUS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY SOIL TESTING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE CONTAMINANTS ARE FOR THE AREA? YES.

WE ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING EXTENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND ASSESSMENTS OF THE SITE, AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, THESE ASSESSMENTS, THESE TESTS ARE DONE TO BASICALLY ALLOW US TO DEVELOP THESE TANKS OR EXCUSE ME, THESE BUILDINGS, AND SO THAT IS AN ONGOING PROCESS AND IT IS MARKED BY THE TCEQ, THE TEXAS CENTER FOR ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF WHAT I DO IS IS OPERATIONAL RISK MANAGEMENT.

SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DO IS IS LOOKING AT A SITE IS, IS OKAY, WHAT ARE THE HAZARDS, WHAT ARE THE RISKS? AND HERE SO I'M SEEING FUEL TANKS.

THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL ISSUES ON THERE, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF SOMETHING HAS ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLY AFFECTING SURROUNDING AREAS, TOO, WITH FUEL.

BUT THIS LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.

I LIKE IT. IT'S WAY BETTER THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. MICHAEL CARTER.

I'M TRYING TO PLACE WHERE YOUR FACILITY IS GOING TO BE.

YES SIR. IT'S ARROW WOOD 26, HIGHWAY 26.

YES, SIR. THIS HERE, THIS.

YOU'RE AT MUSTANG, IS THE STREET THAT KIND OF DEAD ENDS? YES, SIR, AND IT'S BETWEEN KIMBALL AND BRUMLOW?

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I BELIEVE SO.

OKAY. SO THIS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A BUNCH OF.

I THINK JUST WHAT HE WAS SAYING, A BUNCH OF PETROLEUM TANKS.

OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? YEAH. COME ON UP. HI.

SUSAN STEINBRECHER.

MY QUESTION IS THE OBVIOUSLY NOT AS ATTRACTIVE WHAT IS THERE CURRENTLY VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY WITH THIS IS HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE AREA AS IT IS CURRENTLY IS VERSUS WHAT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED WITH PUTTING THIS OF THESE TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT, ETCETERA.

SO ONE THING I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS THERE'S ONE POINT OF ENTRY AND EXIT FOR THIS FACILITY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND IT'S ALONG HERE AND.

I'M SORRY. AND THIS IS OFF OF MUSTANG COURT AND THE INTERSECTION OF MUSTANG COURT AND ARROW WOODS.

THERE IS A STOPLIGHT THAT PROTECTS THIS INTERSECTION AS WELL.

AS FAR AS ENHANCED TRAFFIC GOES, THIS PIPELINE TERMINAL, IT CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF A HEAVY AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, OF GAS TANKS ACTUALLY GOING UP TO FILL UP AND SO THAT THEY CAN TRANSPORT THIS FUEL TO OTHER GAS STATIONS AND REFILL THOSE GAS STATIONS.

SO IT IS CURRENTLY AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY.

THERE IS CURRENTLY A HEAVY AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

NOW THIS IS A SPECULATIVE PROJECT, AND SO THERE ARE NO TENANTS THAT ARE SIGNED INTO THIS BUSINESS PARK AS OF YET, AND NOW THIS CONFIGURATION AND THIS TYPE OF BUILDING THAT WE'VE DESIGNED AND LAID ON SITE ATTRACTS LESS TRAFFIC USERS THAN YOUR TYPICAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRIBUTION OPERATION, BUT AS TO THE CHANGE IN THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW, IT COULD BE A REDUCTION, IT COULD BE ON PAR OR A SLIGHT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.

THERE'S NO TELLING. SO HOW MANY UNITS DO YOU HAVE AVAILABLE FOR TO BE FILLED EVENTUALLY? TOTAL AMOUNT UNITS LIKE SUITES, YOU'RE SAYING? I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE CALLING THEM.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

SO THESE ARE FOUR BUILDINGS.

THEY ARE DIVISIBLE.

WE COULD WIND UP HERE WITH FOUR TENANTS AND THEIR INDIVIDUAL RESPECTIVE BUILDINGS OR IT COULD BE SUBDIVIDED TO ATTRACT MULTIPLE TENANTS REALLY ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TENANTS TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO PUT A MAXIMUM ON IT, BUT IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, 6 TO 8, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? ALL RIGHT. THANKS, SCOTT. THANK YOU.

JOHN TERRELL IS HERE TO PRESENT OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN 2023-15.

[4. SPIN2023-15 - An applicant is proposing updates for Carillon Parc on approximately 42 acres located at the northeast corner of N. White Chapel Blvd. and E. Kirkwood Blvd. within SPIN Neighborhood #3.]

AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING UPDATES FOR CARILLON PARC ON APPROXIMATELY 42 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD AND EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD WITHIN SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER THREE.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

LET ME JUST START WITH WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY HELICOPTERS IN CARILLON PARC.

[LAUGHTER] SO MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

IT HAS MADE WE'VE BROKEN GROUND.

IT IS LOOKING FANTASTIC OUT THERE.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND SOME OF THE NEW THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING A FEW CHANGES TO THE EXISTING ZONING, AND IT'S GOING TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD FASTER.

JUST TO SHOW YOU THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON THE LEFT.

THEN THERE WAS A INTERIM CONCEPT PLAN THAT DID NOT GET APPROVED BECAUSE AT THAT TIME IT WAS BEING PRESENTED FOR THE LIBRARY AND PERFORMING ARTS, AND THE CITY AT THAT TIME BASICALLY SAID THEY BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE FINANCIALS AND THE ECONOMY, THEY WANTED TO BACK OUT OF THAT COMMITMENT RIGHT THEN.

SO WE HAVE MODIFIED THE SITE PLAN IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

ONE, TO ACCOMMODATE A POSSIBLE FUTURE LIBRARY, BUT I WILL RUN THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

THE FIRST REVISION AND I'M GOING TO GO OVER THEM IN MORE DETAIL, BUT JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THE SEVERAL REVISIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION ON FIVE OF THE LOTS THAT ARE ALONG RIVIERA.