Aug 22, 2023 SPIN Town Hall Forum

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GOOD EVENING.

[1 . Call to Order: Video Introduction of SPIN Program by Southlake Mayor John Huffman]

ONE OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS A COMMITTEE IS HOSTING TOWN HALL FORUMS. THE PURPOSE OF SPIN IS TO GAIN FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS ON DEVELOP RELATED PROJECTS AND OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY.

SPIN IS AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING, AND NO VOTES ARE TAKEN AT THIS MEETING.

SPIN IS STREAMED LIVE THROUGH SOUTHLAKE TV ON THE CITY'S MAIN WEBSITE.

CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.COM.

NEXT, WE'LL SHOW A BRIEF VIDEO INTRODUCTION OF THE SPIN PROGRAM BY SOUTH LAKE MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN.

GOOD EVENING. I'M SOUTHLAKE MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT'S SPIN TOWN HALL FORUM.

THE ITEMS PRESENTED AT SPIN REPRESENT IDEAS OFTEN IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THIS CONVERSATION STARTS HERE FIRST WITH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPER.

THERE ARE NO VOTES TAKEN AT SPIN AND NO DECISIONS ARE MADE.

SPIN IS SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE.

AND ONCE THE MEETING IS OVER, BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ARE PROVIDED WITH A SPIN MEETING REPORT THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE DISCUSSION FROM TONIGHT. WE TAKE YOUR IMPRESSIONS AND QUESTIONS INTO ACCOUNT WHEN CONSIDERING ANY ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE US FURTHER ALONG IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION TO HELPING MAKE SOUTHLAKE A BETTER PLACE.

HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

FOR THOSE IN ATTENDANCE WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD LOCATED TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND DELIVER IT TO EITHER MYSELF OR A CITY STAFF MEMBER. I WILL ASK THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO USE THE MICROPHONE IN THE AISLE FOR THE Q&A PORTION OF THE MEETING.

WE DEVELOPED AN ONLINE SPIN FORM FOR RESIDENTS TO SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING IF THEY ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND.

I WILL READ THROUGH THESE SUBMISSIONS AFTER THE RESIDENTS IN ATTENDANCE WHO HAVE QUESTIONS WHO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK.

WITH THAT, LET US GET TO OUR APPLICANT PRESENTATIONS.

[2. SPIN2023-17 — An applicant is proposing an approximately 26,000 sq. ft. two-story office building and twenty-eight (28) luxury villa residential lots located at 240 N. Carroll Ave. within SPIN Neighborhood #7.]

AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN APPROXIMATELY 26,000 SQUARE FOOT TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING AND 28 LUXURY VILLA RESIDENTIAL LOTS LOCATED AT 240 NORTH CARROLL WITH SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER SEVEN.

WITH THAT, CURTIS.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

MY NAME IS CURTIS CHANG WITH THE SAGE GROUP.

AND WITH ME IS TRAVIS FRANKS WITH WILLOW TREE.

I'M THE PLANNER FOR THE PROJECT.

AND TRAVIS AND JODY, HIS PARTNER, ARE THE DEVELOPERS FOR THE PROJECT.

WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF TAKE YOU THROUGH OUR PLANS AND THEN WE'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AS WE GO ALONG.

HERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE AERIAL, I'M SURE OF THE AREA.

I'M SURE MOST OF YOU ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

THIS PROPERTY IS A LITTLE OVER NINE ACRES, AND THIS LOCATION HERE DOES HAVE SOME FRONTAGE ON CARROLL AVENUE HERE.

AND IT'S NORTH OF THE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALONG SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD HERE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE WEST END AND THE NORTH END HERE.

THIS IS CROSS LANE, WHICH CURRENTLY IS STUBBED INTO THE END OF THE PROPERTY HERE, PROBABLY WHEN THIS WAS DEVELOPED THAT WAS INTENDED TO GO ON AND ACCESS THIS PROPERTY WHEN IT DEVELOPED.

BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED IN THE 20 SOME YEARS SINCE THAT DEVELOPMENT HAS HAPPENED.

THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED AS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN SOUTH LAKE.

FOR THAT, AND THERE ARE SOME OFFICE COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH OF US ALONG SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD.

AND OF COURSE, CROSS STREET IS THE TOWN CENTER.

IT IS YET TO BE ZONED.

REALLY, IT'S STILL ZONED.

AG SO WE WOULD BE REQUESTING A REZONING FOR THIS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY.

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AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

BASICALLY, WE'RE PROPOSING THESE 28 VILLA LOTS, WHICH WOULD BE SERVED BY ALLEYS IN BACK SO THAT THE FRONT OF THEM DON'T HAVE ANY GARAGES.

AND THEY WOULD FRONT ON THIS DIVIDED ROAD IN FRONT HERE WITH A LANDSCAPED AREA, IN FRONT WITH AMENITIES, LANDSCAPING AND FOUNTAINS, WALKWAYS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS TO BE DESIGNED SO.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY NICE LOOKING, HIGH QUALITY AREA IN HERE AND WE THINK WILL BE QUITE DISTINCTIVE AND IN DEMAND. WE INTEND FOR IT TO BE A GATED COMMUNITY.

THERE WOULD BE GATES UP HERE WHERE THE RESIDENTS WOULD COME AND GET ACCESS WITH THEIR VISITORS.

WE WOULD HAVE VISITOR PARKING ALONG THIS CENTRAL OPEN SPACE IN HERE.

AND ALTHOUGH FOR FIRE PURPOSES FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES WANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO CROSS LANE HERE, WE WOULD PUT AN EMERGENCY ONLY GATE HERE SO THAT THERE WOULD BE NO TRAFFIC ADDED TO CROSS LANE IN THERE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS TOLD US OVER HERE, THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE, BUT THEY DID WANT A TURNAROUND.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING A A SMALLER INCREASED AREA HERE THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE END OF CROSS LANE FOR A TURNAROUND.

BUT AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO REPEAT THIS WOULD ADD ZERO CARS TO CROSS LANE.

IT WOULD BE A GATE THAT WOULD ONLY BE ACCESSED BY.

FIRE OR POLICE IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION LIKE A HOUSE ON FIRE, SO THERE WOULD BE NO ACCESS THROUGH THERE OUT FRONT ALONG CARROLL, THE THOUGHT IS THAT WE WOULD BUILD A HIGH QUALITY TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING THERE THAT WOULD HAVE THE PARKING IN REAR. SO THE FRONTAGE ALONG CARROLL WOULD BE NICE WITH TWO DRIVEWAY ACCESS POINTS HERE AND EARLY SKETCHES OF HOW THAT OFFICE BUILDING WOULD LOOK.

INCLUDE THIS SKETCH RIGHT HERE.

IT'S JUST A CONCEPT AT THIS POINT, BUT VERY HIGH QUALITY WITH PERHAPS SOME BALCONY PLAZA AREAS ON THE CORNER AND DISTINCTIVE ARCHITECTURE.

AS WELL, THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN BETWEEN.

THIS WAS A CONCEPT WE DID A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE STILL CONTEMPLATING FRONT ACCESS.

WE THINK WE'VE UPGRADED THAT TO THE ALLEY ACCESS.

BUT THIS SHOWS YOU KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT THE CENTER MEDIAN WOULD BE WITH THE LANDSCAPING FOUNTAINS, WALKWAYS, SEATING AREAS. JUST A REALLY NICE ATMOSPHERE THERE.

AND KIND OF LOOKING DOWN THAT AREA FROM THE END.

SO, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

AND TRAVIS, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? OH. SO, HOPEFULLY I'VE SPOKEN MOST OF YOU ALL, EITHER ON ZOOM OR IN PERSON OR ON A PHONE CALL.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED TO ME JUST ON THE PHONE CALLS AND JUST TO KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS I'VE ALREADY HEARD THROUGH THE ZOOM CALL ON THIS PLAN IN PARTICULAR.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE OUR GOAL IS TO MAYBE KEEP IT VERY PRIVATE TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE'RE AFFECTING, ESPECIALLY ON OMB, WHERE THE HOUSES WOULD BE BACKING UP TO.

THEREFORE, WE PUT THE BUFFER OF THE ALLEYWAY IN THERE, AS WELL AS A A GRASS AND LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THE FENCE LINE.

OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP AS MANY FENCES AS POSSIBLE.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT 12 TO 14FT OF BUFFER FROM THE FENCE TO THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT OF THE ALLEYWAY.

WE IT LOOKS BETTER.

WE WANT THE SCREEN WALL. WE WANT THE BUFFER OF THE TREES.

OUR GOAL IS NOT TO TAKE WE TAKE THESE LITTLE TREES AS WE POSSIBLY CAN DOWN BECAUSE FOR US IT'S A BETTER ESTHETIC.

OKAY. SO PLUS ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE INSTALLING AT OUR COST 100% AND MAINTAINING BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO AN EIGHT FOOT STONE MASONRY WALL SURROUNDING THE ENTIRE RESIDENTIAL PIECE OF THE PROPERTY.

I FELT THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ENHANCEMENT TO THE PROPERTY.

IT WOULD HELP WITH SOUND BARRIERS, IT WOULD LOOK REALLY NICE AND IT WOULD BE AGAIN, AT NO COST TO ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS, BUT IMPROVE HOPEFULLY, THE CURRENT FENCE SITUATION THEY HAVE NOW. AND IF YOU REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THE BACK FROM THE BACK OF HOUSE SETBACK TO OUR BACK OF HOUSE SETBACK, I MEAN, WE'RE PROBABLY RUNNING ABOUT 110

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SO WE'RE NOT STACKING ANYTHING ON TOP OF ANYBODY.

AND EVEN FURTHERMORE, WE'RE WORKING CURRENTLY WITH THE ARCHITECT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VISIBILITY OF ANYBODY'S BACKYARD IS NONEXISTENT.

SO, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ACT LIKE PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS BUILDING THE HOUSES FOR THE FUTURE NEIGHBORS YOU HAVE BEHIND YOU.

ANOTHER BIG POINT, I UNDERSTAND, I GUESS WE MENTIONED THE THE EMERGENCY EXIT SIDE.

AND I KNOW THERE'LL BE SOME MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

THAT IS TRULY AN EMERGENCY EXIT.

THERE IS NOT ACCESS TO ME AS A DEVELOPER, ME AS A RESIDENT, ME AS A HOMEOWNER.

IF I WAS TO LIVE HERE, THIS IS TRULY THE ONLY PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO.

THIS IS EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

AND AND TO ME, IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE SAFETY OF GETTING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT'S CLOSE BY FASTER TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OF FOXBORO.

THE REQUEST OF THE TURNAROUND, BECAUSE THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL BUSSES, UPS AND AMAZON TRUCKS COMING DOWN CROSS LANE AND HAVING TO EITHER USE YOUR DRIVEWAYS AS A TURNAROUND OR DO A 4 OR 5, SIX-POINT TURN.

THIS CUL DE SAC VERSION WOULD ELIMINATE THAT.

THAT'S A TURNAROUND THAT WOULD GO THE FENCE ACTUALLY THE WALL WOULD CURVE AND MATCH THIS CURVATURE HERE WHERE THE GATE WOULD BE HERE, AND THE WALL WOULD COME BACK.

SO THAT WOULD BE DONATING A SENSE OF A TURNAROUND FOR THAT STREET AND ALSO PROVIDE MAYBE ANOTHER AREA FOR THE KIDS TO PLAY.

IT'S DEFINITELY NO RISK TO THE KIDS.

I KNOW THAT KID THAT THAT STREET, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, HAS 20 SOME ODD KIDS ON THAT STREET.

I KNOW THAT AND I'M VERY AWARE OF THAT.

I LIVE IN YOUR I LIVE IN THE LAKEWOOD SIDE.

AND I KIND OF WANTED TO GO INTO THAT, TOO.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO I AM, I'VE BEEN HERE.

I GREW UP IN KELLER. MY WIFE'S BEEN HERE HER WHOLE LIFE.

HER MOM'S BEEN HERE HER WHOLE LIFE.

AND HER GRANDFATHER MOVED HERE IN 1955.

WE'RE THIRD GENERATION KIDS IN SOUTH LAKE.

WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

MY OFFICE IS ON CARROLL.

I KNOW WHAT CAREOLL'S LIKE EVERY DAY.

I DRIVE IT EVERY DAY.

I'M 99% OF MY BUSINESS IS IN SOUTH LAKE.

I AM TRULY COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE SOUTH LAKE IS IMPROVED, NOT WORSENED.

SO, THIS IS NOT A MONEY GRAB.

THIS IS NOT A LOCK GRAB. THIS IS NOT TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE LAND.

THERE'S MORE OF A NARRATIVE THAN THAT AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT LATER ON.

I'M SURE THAT QUESTION WILL COME UP.

SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE COMMERCIAL PIECE OF IT CITY REALLY WANTS THIS ANYTHING ON CARROLL TO BE A COMMERCIAL PIECE.

AND SO, WE REALLY KIND OF WE ARE PUTTING THIS HERE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE APPEASE KIND OF THE REQUEST FROM PEOPLE THAT WE'VE TALKED TO WITHIN THE CITY.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE AROUND THE AREA AS WELL.

SO THIS IS NOT JUST MADE UP, BUT IT IS IT DOES FIT TO ME THE THE FUTURE OF WHAT CARROLL WILL LOOK LIKE.

AND SO THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING WILL HOUSE A MORE OF A OFFICE EXECUTIVE SUITE.

ON THE SECOND STORY, THE FIRST STORY WOULD BE CONSIDERED.

WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY A HIGH END RESTAURANT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF LIKE A NICK AND SAM'S OR A HUDSON HOUSE OR A, I GUESS, BOB'S OR PERRY TYPE TYPE OF STEAKHOUSE.

YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE OTHER OPTIONS IN THERE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PACKED FULL OF LIKE A TOWN SQUARE TYPE OF SHOPPING CENTER.

IT WOULD PROBABLY FILL EITHER ONE RESTAURANT, MAYBE A COFFEE SHOP, BUT THAT'S IT.

AND THEN UPSTAIRS WOULD BE ALL EXECUTIVE SUITE TYPE BUILDINGS.

SO THAT'S IT. LANDSCAPING WILL BE AMAZING.

THERE'S A TON OF MONEY GOING FOR US IN THE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND ALL THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT EVERYBODY IN CROSS LANE HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING.

WILL BE CONTROLLED AND HANDLED, THEREFORE.

THAT'S WHY WE ADDED THE DETENTION POND.

SO ALL THE STUFF THAT'S COMING OFF IN THAT EXISTING POND THAT'S THERE WILL BE TRENCHED AND BE TUNNELED OR PIPED INTO THIS DETENTION POND TO HELP US WITH ALL THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT'S HAPPENING IN FOXBORO.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M READY TO TAKE QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS.

THE FIRST IS MR. AND PARDON ME IN ADVANCE MR. SCOTT DYCK.

PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.

GOOD EVENING. SCOTT DYCK 1110 FOUNTAIN DRIVE.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

ARE YOU PRE-LEASED AT ALL ON THIS COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING? YES, SIR. ACTUALLY, THE GOAL BY COUNCIL TO HAVE MAJORITY OF THIS PRE-LEASED.

I'VE GOTTEN VERBAL COMMENCEMENTS FOR HALF OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE RIGHT NOW.

VERBAL COMMITMENTS.

YEAH. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING SO WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE, NOR THE BUILDING ARE LARGELY SPEC OFFICE BUILDING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT IS.

BRAVE. YEAH.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS AN EMPTY OFFICE BUILDING.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS.

JUNK RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC SPILLAGE ONTO CARROLL.

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WE REJECT THAT IN SOUTH LAKE.

TOWN SQUARE GETS A PASS BECAUSE TOWN SQUARE IS THE ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT DRIVES THIS CITY.

THIS IS NOT TOWN SQUARE.

TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.

WELL, THESE ARE NOT MULTI-FAMILY.

THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY INDIVIDUAL HOMES THAT ARE NOT ATTACHED.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE LIKE THE BROWNSTONES YOU SEE IN TOWN SQUARE.

SO THESE WILL BE HOMES RANGING FROM 3000 UP TO MAYBE 5000, 5000, 300FT² IS WHAT CAN FIT ON THESE LOTS.

THEY WILL BE, LIKE I SAID, INDIVIDUALLY OWNED.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRICE POINTS STARTING AROUND THE 1.516.

MILLION DOLLAR RANGE.

SO FROM A MULTIFAMILY STANDPOINT, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE THE FURTHEST FROM THAT IN MY OPINION.

IT'S CONSIDERED HIGH DENSITY BECAUSE SOUTH LAKE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOVE MEDIUM DENSITY.

AND YES, IT DOES.

THIS IS BUILT AND DESIGNED ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND MOVING FORWARD WITH CAROLYN PARK.

SO, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN THE LOT SIZE OTHER THAN OURS IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE DEEPER THAN WHAT CAROLYN PARK OFFERS.

THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING, WE ARE DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH CURRENTLY.

WE ARE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY FROM THE ARCHITECTURE ON THE OUTSIDE AS WELL AS THE SPACE PLANNING ON THE INSIDE.

AND THEREFORE OUR GOAL IS TO PRE-LEASE TO SEEING 100% BY THE TIME WE GET APPROVAL BY COUNCIL.

BUT WE GOT TO GET ONE STEP FURTHER TO ACTUALLY GET THE LAND OR THE BUILDING ITSELF FINALIZED SO WE CAN PRELEASE.

AND WHEN I SAY THE HALFWAY ALREADY VERBAL PRE-LEASED, WE'RE TAKING SPACE AS A COMPANY.

WE ARE LEASING TO OUR AV COMPANY THAT WANTS TO TAKE 4000FT².

OUR TITLE COMPANY IS GOING TO TAKE 4000FT².

SO, THESE ARE UPSTAIRS HIGH-END BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN SOUTH LAKE AND IN DOWNSTAIRS.

WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT RESTAURANTS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HIGH END, NICE DINNER DATE, NIGHT TYPE RESTAURANTS.

AND WE'RE ALSO THE ONE OTHER PERSON IS VERBALLY COMMITTED THAT WANTS IT FOR 6000FT², IS A VERY HIGH END SHOWROOM LIKE THAT SELLS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN TOWN SQUARE, HIGH END HOME PRODUCTS, FIXTURES, LIGHT FIXTURES, PLUMBING FIXTURES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THESE ARE HIGH END.

AND OUR RESTRICTIONS, JUST LIKE THE THE ARCHITECTURE DESIGN OF THE VILLAS, WILL MATCH THE SAME AS THE COMMERCIAL THEY'LL TALK.

AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU, THE OUR GOAL IS TO NOT GO BACKWARDS WHATSOEVER.

WE DON'T SELL BACKWARDS.

WE'RE A CUSTOM HOME BUILDER AS A WHOLE.

EVERYTHING WE DO WILL BE ABOVE AND BEYOND.

HAVE YOU ENGAGED A TRAFFIC STUDY YET? GREAT QUESTION. AND I KNOW THAT'S VERY, VERY BIG.

SO, WE ARE ENGAGED INTO A TRAFFIC STUDY.

WE HAVE NOT GOT THE RESULTS ON THAT YET.

WE'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE CURRENT TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SOUTH LAKE HAS DONE FOR CAROL, MORE SO ON THE NORTH SIDE.

BUT IT DID TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND BACK.

AND THIS WAS DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BUT THE BACK SIDE ACTUALLY HAD IT CROSS LANE GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS PROPERTY, TOO, AND EXITING OUT OF CAROL.

AND THEIR THEIR STUDY SHOWED THERE WAS NO IMPACT TO WHAT'S ALREADY THERE ON THE TRAFFIC THAT WAS DONE OVER SIX YEARS AGO.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO REDO IT.

WE'VE TALKED TO THE CITY. WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY STAFF SINCE THEY'RE GETTING READY TO START A PROJECT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CAROL.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO USE THEIR RECENT PLAN THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN, WHICH IS THEY SAY IT'S PUBLIC RECORD, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN YET.

THEY'RE NOT SENDING IT TO US YET.

USE THAT SAME DATA, COMPARE IT TO OURS AND REWORK CAROL TO MAXIMIZE IT.

I WOULD SAY AS A RESIDENT WHO I'VE PERSONALLY LIVED HERE FOR 25 YEARS AND I'VE WHEN I GREW UP IN KELLER, I MEAN, IT WAS NOTHING HERE. IT WAS A FARM.

IT WAS A TWO-LANE ROAD.

IF 114 WAS A TWO-LANE ROAD.

SO, I'VE SEEN IT DO WHAT IT'S DOING.

WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, AND THIS IS THIS IS KIND OF A CONVERSATION I WANT TO BE SENSITIVE ABOUT, TOO, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE IT RIGHT.

I MEAN, I DRIVE IT EVERY DAY, BUT WE'RE AT THE CORNER OF MAIN AND MAIN, ESSENTIALLY.

AND CAROL WAS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WHEN CAROL WAS DESIGNED AND BUILT THE TOWN SQUARE, I MEAN, IF WE COULD REDO IT AGAIN, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A SIX LANE ROAD TO GET TO TOWN SQUARE. SO WE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN.

OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE IT RIGHT.

WE'VE EVEN OFFERED TO SPEND MONEY ON THE CAROL ROAD BECAUSE SOUTH LAKE OWNS THAT ROAD.

THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS THAT THEY DO OWN THAT ROAD, NOT TEXDOT.

WE ARE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND MONEY WHERE WE CAN TO HELP WITH MAKING THEIR DECISION BETTER.

SO AND ONE LAST QUESTION.

WHERE DO YOU STAND ON YOUR PROPERTY ACQUISITION? I'M SORRY. WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION ON THIS CURRENT PROJECT? YES, WE HAVE IT.

IT'S WE CLOSE ON IT AFTER COUNCIL HAS APPROVED ZONING.

SO, ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD? YEAH, WE'RE IN OUR YEAH, WE HAVE A DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD UNDER CONTRACT UNTIL WE GET ZONING FROM CLOSE.

MONEY'S NOT HARD.

I'M SORRY. YOUR MONEY'S NOT HARD MONEY.

WELL, WE HAVE MONEY HARD, BUT NOT.

WE HAVE A DEPOSIT. THAT'S HARD.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. DEREK. NEXT SPEAKER IS MS. JESSICA ADCOCK.

PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.

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MY NAME IS JESSICA ADCOCK AND I LIVE ON CROSS LANE WITHIN THE FOXBOROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

I'M ALSO THE HOA PRESIDENT FOR THE FOXBOROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE DEVELOPER, MR. FRANKS, HAS PRESENTED HIS PLANS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM REGARDING HIS PLANS SINCE THEN.

WHILE I'M NOT AGAINST THIS LAND BEING DEVELOPED, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S BEING DONE IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR STREET, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR SOUTH LAKE COMMUNITY. THIS LAND IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO OUR FOXBOROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD, AND AT THE END OF OUR STREET, MY STREET CROSS LANE.

BASED ON MR. FRANK'S PRESENT PROPOSAL, I HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS.

HIS PROPOSED PLAN IS NOT IN LINE WITH THE CITY OF SOUTH LAKE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL THIS YEAR ON FEBRUARY 7TH.

AND THE FUTURE LAND PLAN SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND AND MAKES THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS AND POLICIES REGARDING IT FIRST.

THIS LAND SHOULD RETAIN MEDIAN DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR SECOND, FOR ANY PROPERTIES FRONTING ON CARROLL AVENUE.

GARDEN OFFICE USES MAY BE CONSIDERED IF DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNED IN COMPREHENSIVE MANNER.

THIRD, ANY FUTURE CONNECTION OF CROSS LANE TO CARROLL AVENUE IS NOT INTENDED.

ANY OFFICE DEVELOPMENT ALONG CARROLL AVENUE SHOULD HAVE CROSS ACCESS BACK TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT FM 1709 AND TOWER PLAZA, AS WELL AS TO THE OFFICE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH OF ACCESS.

THE EXISTING DRIVE CUT ON CARROLL AVENUE.

A NEW DRIVE CUT AT CARROLL AVENUE AND MAIN STREET IS NOT RECOMMENDED DUE TO EXISTING TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AND VOLUMES AT THIS INTERSECTION AND THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE LIGHT.

BASED ON WHAT THE DEVELOPERS PRESENTED THUS FAR, I BELIEVE THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT VIOLATES ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND POLICIES.

THE CURRENT PLAN OF 28 VILLAS WILL REQUIRE THEM TO SEEK HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WILL VIOLATE THAT RECOMMENDATION BY THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN TO STAY MEDIUM DENSITY.

IN ADDITION, THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY WOULD NOT BE IN KEEPING WITH THE SURROUNDING HOME LOT SIZES OF SOUTH VIEW AND FOXBOROUGH, BOTH SOUTH VIEW AND FOXBOROUGH HAVE HOME SIZED LOT RANGES FROM 20,000 TO 25,000FT².

SO THIS COULD ULTIMATELY AFFECT OUR HOME VALUES AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, CONTRIBUTE TO THE GREATER CONGESTION IN THE ALREADY BUSY AREA.

SECOND, THE PROPOSED TWO STOREY OFFICE BUILDING IS NOT A GARDEN STYLE OFFICE LIKE THE OTHER ONE STORY OFFICES ALONG NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

THIRD, THE PLAN TO INSTALL AN EMERGENCY GATE BETWEEN CROSS LANE AND THE RESIDENTIAL VILLAS VIOLATES THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, WHICH CLEARLY STATES ANY FUTURE CONNECTION OF CROSS LANE TO CARROLL AVENUE IS NOT INTENDED.

IF THE DEVELOPER REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL ENTRY AND EXIT POINT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, THAT ACCESS POINT SHOULD BE INTO THE MEDICAL OFFICE PARKING LOT THAT IS SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND CONNECTS TO SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD AND AT TOWER PLAZA.

THIS CROSS ACCESS BACK TO THE SIGNAL AS WELL AS TO THE OFFICE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH IS THE CONDITION OF THE FUTURE LAND PLAN.

FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

EXCUSE ME. THESE MEDICAL OFFICES ARE OWNED BY DR.

MENDEZ, WHO IS SELLING THIS LAND TO THE DEVELOPERS.

THEREFORE, I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD NEGOTIATE THE ACCESS RATHER THAN PUTTING THAT BURDEN UPON THE RESIDENTS OF CROSS LANE AND THE RESIDENTS OF FOXBOROUGH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR ANYTHING BUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES, BUT WE STILL HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THE APPEARANCE OF THAT GATE.

AND FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO HAVE EMERGENCY ACCESS.

WE HAD A GAS LEAK ON OUR STREET A FEW MONTHS AGO.

THE FIRE TRUCK COULDN'T EVEN GET DOWN OUR STREET BECAUSE OF CARS PARKED IT PARKED AT THE END AT CROSS LANE AND FOXBORO.

SO EXPECTING THAT FIRE TRUCKS CAN GET DOWN THROUGH CROSS LANE IS PROBABLY NOT THE BEST SOLUTION FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS.

I CAN SAY THAT ACCESS TO MEDICAL OFFICE IS SOUTH.

THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR A FIRE TRUCK.

SO I REALLY STRONGLY, STRONGLY CONSIDER OR RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONSIDER AMENDING THIS PLAN FOR THAT ACCESS.

LASTLY, I WANT TO POINT OUT.

WELL, SORRY, EXCUSE ME. I'LL SAY TRAFFIC.

EVERYBODY'S ALREADY STARTING TO BRING THAT UP.

AND AGAIN, WITH THE WAY THE EXIT AND ENTRY POINTS ARE, I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO HELP OUR TRAFFIC SITUATION IN SOUTH LAKE.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO BRING UP IS ABOUT THE STONE WALLS.

SO, I KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPERS JUST STATED TONIGHT THAT THEY WILL CLAIM RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THAT.

I UNFORTUNATELY HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THE LAST YEAR WITH WALLS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SITUATIONS AND TALKING TO THE CITY AND UNDERSTANDING LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY.

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SO, FOR EXAMPLE, HE CLAIMS THE NEW VILLA HOA WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE STONE WALLS.

BUT I QUESTION THE ENFORCEABILITY OF THIS CLAIM BASED ON THE CITY OF SOUTH LAKE ORDINANCES.

HE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN A WALL OR FENCE BETWEEN HIS COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND THE RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH WOULD BE ALONG OWMBY AND I ASSUME THE LOT THAT'S ALSO SOUTH, WHICH IS CURRENTLY STILL, I BELIEVE, RESIDENTIAL.

BUT THE WALLS THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN HOMEOWNERS, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEW THE NEW VILLAS AND THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH VIEW AND THE PEOPLE IN FOXBORO AT THE END OF CROSS LANE, THERE ARE NO CITY ORDINANCES THAT CAN PROTECT THOSE HOMEOWNERS FROM HAVING OR OUR HOAS FROM POTENTIALLY BEING FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST OF MAINTAINING THOSE WALLS. AND IF YOU MAKE IT PART OF YOUR BYLAWS FOR YOUR HOA, AS SOON AS YOU LEAVE THAT THE NEW HOA COULD CHANGE THEIR BYLAWS.

SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW CAN YOU TRULY FULLY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE WALLS IN A LEGAL WAY THAT WOULD BE ENFORCEABLE FOR US AS HOMEOWNERS IN SOUTH VIEW AND FOXBOROUGH AND OUR HOA HOA'S? SO IN THE END, IN SORT OF SUMMARIZE, I KNOW I'VE SAID A LOT, OBVIOUSLY I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

I'M ASKING THAT YOU STRONGLY CONSIDER REVISING THIS PLAN SO THAT IT REALLY RESPECTS AND HONORS THE NEIGHBORS OF SOUTH VIEW AND FOXBOROUGH.

SO IT ADHERES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF SOUTH LAKE AND SO THAT IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE LARGER CONCERNS OF OUR SOUTH LAKE COMMUNITY LIKE TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THEM IF WE CAN.

I BUILT NEIGHBORHOODS ALL OVER SOUTH LAKE NOW FOR 20 SOME YEARS.

AND WE DO.

MASONRY WALLS ALL THE TIME ON OUR PROPERTY AND WE CAN MAKE IT A PART OF THE ZONING.

SO IT GOES BEYOND JUST SOME PROMISE TO AN HOA.

IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE ZONING.

AND THE CITY THEN HAS ENFORCEABILITY ABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MAINTAINED OR WHATEVER, AND THERE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO MAINTENANCE REQUIRED FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORS ON THAT.

SO THAT'S DONE ALL THE TIME.

I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I WILL SAY WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WITH THE CURRENT WALL SITUATION BETWEEN DR.

MENDEZ AND OUR HOMEOWNERS.

SO, AND THAT'S PART OF THEIR PNC AS WELL.

AND IT COMES DOWN TO A CIVIL MATTER ULTIMATELY BETWEEN THE HOMEOWNER AND THE ADJACENT OWNER OF THE STONE WALL.

SO, IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE I JUST EXPERIENCED IT THIS PAST YEAR AS THE HOA PRESIDENT TRYING TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE, THAT THAT REQUIREMENT WAS ALSO IN THE PNC DOCUMENTS FOR WHEN DR.

MENDEZ DEVELOPED THE MEDICAL OFFICES.

AND WE HAVE BEEN HAVING ISSUES WITH GETTING HIM TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FIXING THAT, DESPITE IT SAYING IT SHOULD BE.

AND THE CITY SAID, I'M SORRY.

THIS IS NOW A CIVIL MATTER BETWEEN THE HOMEOWNER AND DR.

MENDEZ. SO THERE ISN'T A WAY TO ENFORCE THAT FROM THE CITY.

OKAY. WELL, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT SITUATION, BUT I DO KNOW THAT OVER THE YEARS WE'VE DONE MANY OF THESE WHERE IT'S BEEN WRITTEN INTO THE ZONING AND MAYBE IT WASN'T WRITTEN INTO THE SAME AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT THE FOR THE MEDICAL OFFICE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT.

I'M NOT SURE. BUT WE'VE DONE THIS THIS ALL OVER.

BUT LET ME GO TO SOME OF YOUR FIRST LIST.

YOU SAY THAT THE MASTER PLAN SAYS THERE SHOULD NOT BE A CONNECTION TO CROSS LANE TO CARROLL AVENUE.

THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE NOT MAKING A CONNECTION.

BUT THERE COULD BE A CONNECTION.

NO, THERE ISN'T. IT WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY GATE THAT WOULD NEVER BE OPENED.

AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FIRE TRUCK THAT COULDN'T GO DOWN CROSS LANE.

YOU KNOW WHY THEY COULDN'T GO DOWN CROSS LANE? THERE WAS PROBABLY ROOM FOR THEM, BUT THEY DON'T LIKE TO BACK UP.

SO, IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY GATE AT THE END, SHOULD THERE EVER BE A FIRE ON ONE OF YOUR HOMES ON CROSS LANE? THEY WOULD HAVE AN ESCAPE ROUTE THAT WOULD ONLY BE USED IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY.

THERE ARE EMERGENCY GATES ALL OVER THESE TOWNS AND.

THEY ARE NEVER OPEN AND THEY'RE NEVER OPEN FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THEY'RE NEVER OPEN FOR RESIDENTS.

THEY'RE NEVER OPEN FOR ANYTHING.

WE WOULD SPECIFY IN THE ZONING THAT THAT IS AN EMERGENCY ONLY GATE.

AND SO, THERE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY ZERO TRAFFIC ADDED TO CROSS LANE.

SO, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT, BUT I'M HERE TO ASSURE YOU THAT THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT TO CROSS.

LANE STILL IMPACT FROM AN ESTHETICS, THOUGH WE STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND WE STILL CAN SEE POTENTIALLY INTO THOSE VILLAS, AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW WIDE THE

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SO WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THE DESIGN OF THE GATE TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S COMPATIBLE TO BOTH SIDES.

CERTAINLY MOST GATES HAVE HAVE THEIR STYLES ARE CLOSE ENOUGH TOGETHER THAT EVEN A SMALL DOG CAN'T GET THROUGH THEM, LET ALONE A SMALL CHILD.

THE RENDERING WE HAD ORIGINALLY ON THAT GATE JUST SO AND AGAIN, THE WALLS WOULD CURVE INTO OUR PROPERTY AND IT WOULD BE AN EIGHT FOOT SOLID MASON WE TALKED ABOUT.

AND THEN THE GATE, I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER GATE DESIGN YOU WANT AND ALSO HELPING WITH THE LANDSCAPING AROUND THAT WALL THAT MAKES IT AN ESTHETICALLY ATTRACTIVE.

IT WOULD BE ESTHETICALLY BEAUTIFUL.

THE WALL IS GOING TO BE A VERY HIGH IN STONE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE YOU HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL TURNAROUND NOW THAT'S SURROUNDED BY WALL AND MAYBE A BUFFER LANDSCAPING AND THEN THE ACTUAL GATE ITSELF.

I'LL MAKE IT WHATEVER YOU ALL WANT IT TO BE.

IF IT'S GOING TO BE WOOD WITH WROUGHT IRON OR IT'S NOT VISIBLE AND NOT ACCESSIBLE BY ANYBODY OTHER THAN MAYBE A LITTLE RODENT GOING ON, I STILL THINK IT'S NOT THE BEST PLACE FOR THE EMERGENCY GATE. AND HERE'S THE OTHER PART FOR US, THOUGH, AND THIS IS THE ONLY PART I WOULD SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW.

SO, THIS WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ASKED US TO PUT THIS IN HERE.

OKAY. I CAN'T CONTROL THAT.

THIS IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO GO DOWN TO COUNCIL AND FIRE.

SO, IF THEY REQUIRE THE EMERGENCY GATE, THEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO, IF THAT DOES REQUIRE WHICH THEY HAVE TOLD US THAT SO FAR, I WILL DO ANYTHING TO MAKE IT ESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO Y'ALL'S TO WHAT Y'ALL LIKE.

AND KEEP IN MIND, ONE OF THE REASONS THE CITY WANTS THIS IS FOR THE PROTECTION OF YOUR TEN HOMES.

IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT SHORTER.

I HAD TO CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LAST YEAR AND TRUST ME, THEY HAD NO PROBLEM GETTING OUR HOUSE QUICKLY.

AND I THINK IT WOULD TAKE LONGER TO GO THROUGH ALL OF YOUR GATES THAN IT WOULD BE FOR THEM TO JUST COME DOWN.

NO, IT'S NOT FOR ENTRY.

IF THEY COME DOWN CROSS LANE FROM FROM YOUR YOUR SIDE, THIS WOULD GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO EXIT CROSS LANES NOT THAT LONG.

AND THE FIRE, THE FIRE HYDRANTS RIGHT ON THE CORNER, THE FIRE HOSE CAN REACH ALL THE WAY TO THE END HOUSE.

SO, THEY DON'T NEED TO BRING THE TRUCK DOWN TO PUT OUT ANY FIRES.

WELL, YOU CAN TAKE. SO, I STILL AM GOING TO.

I JUST DO NOT THINK THAT'S THE BEST PLACE FOR THE EMERGENCY GATE.

I'M GOING TO I'M REALLY GOING TO PUSH BACK ON THIS BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT'S MY STREET.

AND I'M HEARING THIS FROM MANY, MANY PEOPLE ON OUR STREET, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT'S A BIG CHANGER FOR US.

AND I JUST THINK THERE'S A BETTER PLACE TO PUT IT.

AND IT WILL MEAN PROBABLY CHANGING YOUR VILLA PLAN, PROBABLY LOSING SOME VILLAS.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT RESPECTING NEIGHBORS AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUR NEIGHBORS.

SO THE ALTERNATIVE AND HERE'S YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS WHAT IT'S FOR TO TALK ABOUT THIS WE MENDEZ REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE WANT ON MENDEZ AND NEGOTIATION OF MENDEZ HE HAS A RIGHT TO NOT DO ANYTHING AND HE'S ALREADY TOLD ME THIS IS HE IS CUTTING ME OFF FROM A PROPERTY BOUNDARY WHICH I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN. I MEAN, WE'VE TRIED THAT.

I'VE ACTUALLY SHOWED HIM SOME PRETTY COOL OPTIONS.

BUT WHAT IF THE CITY REQUIRES REQUIRES YOU TO PUT IT THERE? WHY NOT? WHY DO THEY REQUIRE YOU TO PUT IT ACROSS AND NOT INTO THE INTO THE PARKING LOT? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WELL, THE DIFFERENCE IS HE ALREADY HAS FIRE LANES IN AND AROUND HIS BUILDING.

HE IS FULLY PROTECTED WITH FIRE LANES.

WHAT THEY WANT US TO CONNECT IS CROSS LANE WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT.

SO, THEY HAVE A IN AN EMERGENCY, ONLY A THROUGH ACCESS HERE.

THIS IS A REQUIREMENT FROM THE CITY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR FIRE SAFETY.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT TO BE SAFE.

IT'S NOT REALLY ADDING VALUE TO US BY HAVING THAT EMERGENCY GATE.

AND SO, THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THAT, TOO.

I WOULD SAY THAT I IT IS TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE PUTTING AS A STANDARD IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.

EVERY HOME IS BEING SPRINKLED AND RUNNING FIRE SUPPRESSION TO IT, NO MATTER WHAT SIZE IT IS OR WHATEVER HAPPENS TO IT.

SO, THAT'S ALSO HELPING OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.

SO, IF ONE OF OUR HOUSES GO UP FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT WILL BE DISTINGUISHED PRETTY QUICKLY VERSUS WHAT'S AROUND US AND OMB AND FOXBORO.

NONE OF YOU ALL HAVE FIRE SUPPRESSION.

SO, WHAT I WOULD SAY THAT THAT THE FIRE TRUCK IS PROBABLY IF THIS PLAN BEFORE THIS FOR OUR PLAN CAME THROUGH AND IF FOXBORO HAS GOT DEVELOPED AND THE DEVELOPER BROUGHT FOXBORO WITH A DEAD END STREET, IT WILL NOT GET APPROVED.

THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, IF ANY DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT IS FROM OUR MAYOR.

AND THAT'S A QUOTE, IF YOU WANT TO QUOTE IT.

BUT SO, WE HAVE TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION.

AND TO US, AGAIN, THIS IS FIRST PASS, SECOND PASS OR WHATEVER.

THE FIRST ONE I SENT YOU ALL THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO A TURNAROUND THAT WAS REQUESTED TO GET PEOPLE FROM NOT BACKING UP.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SAYS THEY DO NOT BACK UP A FIRE TRUCK.

THEY WILL. THEY DON'T LIKE DOING THAT, LIKE YOU SAID.

SO, THIS THEY APPROVED THE PLAN FROM THE INITIAL WHATEVER THEY CAN DO AT THIS POINT TO SAY WE LIKE THIS.

IF WE WERE TO DO IT, IF THIS THING GOES THROUGH, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ACCESS.

SO, IF IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, THEN WE DO THE MEDIUM DENSITY, THEN THAT STREET JUST GETS EXTENDED.

ALL THE WAY DOWN? NOT NECESSARILY.

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YES, BUT THERE'S LIMITS ON THE DEPTH OF CUL-DE-SACS.

IF WE EXTEND THIS FOR ANOTHER 1214 HOMES, AS WAS PROBABLY IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO EXTEND IT TO CARROLL.

NO, I MEAN, THE THREAT OF SAYING THAT THIS IS CROSS IS GOING TO, CAROL, IS AN UNFAIR THREAT BECAUSE THE LAND USE PLAN.

PROTECTS US FROM THAT.

IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THERE WAS THERE NO INTENT FOR CAROL TO BE CONNECTED TO CHRIST.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW THAT.

AND THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO TRY AND FOLLOW THAT.

IF WE JUST EXTENDED MEDIUM OR SIMILAR SIZED HOMES ONTO THEM AT A CERTAIN POINT, THE CUL-DE-SAC GETS TOO LONG TO MEET THE CITY CODES AND THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE US TO TAKE IT ALL THE WAY ON TO CAROL.

THAT'S THOSE ARE THERE ARE OTHER RULES BESIDES THE MASTER LAND USE PLAN.

I UNDERSTAND. BUT THIS IS A PROBLEM WITH DR.

MENDEZ SELLING PART OF HIS LAND TO YOU.

IF HE WAS STILL THE OWNER, HE COULD DEVELOP IT LIKE THIS BECAUSE HE WOULD OWN THE SOUTH PART.

BUT EVEN IF WE CONNECTED TO HIM TO THE SOUTH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STILL WANTS THE CONNECTION THERE BECAUSE CROSS LANE IS AN INCOMPLETE STREET.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A TURNAROUND AT THE END.

THAT IS NOT A SITUATION.

LISTEN, I'VE ARGUED WITH FIRE DEPARTMENTS BEFORE THAT THERE'S ONLY TEN HOMES.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN YOU CAN DO THE HOSE FROM THE END OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY THEY THINK.

THEY TRY TO THINK OF WHAT IS THE VERY SAFEST THING FOR EVERYONE.

AND THEY WANT THESE STREETS TO EITHER HAVE AN APPROVED FIRE TURNAROUND AT THE END OR FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH, BUT THEY'RE HAPPY TO MAKE IT AN EMERGENCY ONLY ACCESS SO THAT ONLY THEY USE IT AND NOT TRAFFIC.

AND ONE OTHER THING JUST TO SAY, JUST FROM AGAIN, WE TRULY WANT TO MAKE A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY.

THE LAST TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SOUTH LAKE DID ON CAROL HAD A PROPOSAL TO RUN CROSS LANE THROUGH CAROL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS SIX YEARS AGO.

THE LAND USE PLAN WAS JUST REVIEWED AND THEY REDID DECEMBER, BUT THAT NOTHING CHANGED FROM 2017.

BUT THE REQUEST FROM THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS WERE TO GAIN ACCESS TO CROSS LANE AS A THOROUGHBRED TO CAROL TO RELIEVE TRAFFIC FROM FOXBORO.

PEOPLE GOING GETTING OUT AND TURNING RIGHT ON 79 OR AND OR OR HAVING A U-TURN AT THAT MEDIAN.

AND SO IT WAS PROPOSED.

THAT'S WHY THEY DROPPED IT ACTUALLY INTO THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE DON'T OWN PROPERTY THAT WOULD COME OUT WHERE THEY COULD TAKE A POTENTIAL LEFT TURN THERE.

IT IS NOT FAVORABLE BY ANY MEANS.

THAT IS A TERRIBLE PLAN.

IT WOULD BE TERRIBLE FOR Y'ALL TO HAVE THAT MANY KIDS, THAT MUCH FAMILIES AND THAT MANY THAT MANY ACTIVITIES THAT STREET HAS.

AND I KNOW BECAUSE I SEE IT ALL THE TIME, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S NOT HOT, I KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT STREET TO Y'ALL.

IT IS. IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO EXTEND THE STREET TO CARROLL.

IT WOULD BE TERRIBLE. IT WOULD RUIN EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY VALUES.

TO ME, IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY RUIN PROPERTY VALUES.

NOTHING IN SOUTH LAKE RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO RUIN.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD DEMORALIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS FAMILY ACCESS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE CURRENTLY.

I LOVE. THAT'S THE BEST STREET THAT REMINDS US ALL OF OUR CHILDHOOD, RIGHT? NOTHING BETTER. PROBABLY NOTHING BETTER IN SOUTH LAKE.

BUT WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THE EMERGENCY EXIT AND WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD THUS FAR ON THE PLAN THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED.

WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE OUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL CALL YOU, TALK TO YOU ALL DAY LONG ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK WE NEED TO DO AND WE'LL RUN IT.

AND IT HAS TO BALANCE OUT A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT THAT WORKS FOR US AS WELL AS IT WORKS FOR YOU TO MAKE IT EVEN PENCIL OUT, TO MAKE IT EVEN WORK.

I MEAN, 14 HALF ACRE LOTS WORKS JUST AS WELL AS THIS DOES.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT PROBABLY TO ONE REASON, BECAUSE SCHOOL DISTRICT I MEAN WE I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO POLITICS ON SCHOOL, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS HAS A BIGGER SCENARIO FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKED FOR TO GET DONE IS TO BUILD CHEAPER HOUSES, BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

RIGHT NOW, IF I PUT HALF ACRE LOTS IN, THAT'S GOING TO BE A $3 MILLION HOME AND THEN ALL SUDDEN WE LOSE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR KIDS TO CONTINUE TO MOVE IN THIS TOWN.

THERE WILL BE A TIME WE'RE LOSING 50 KIDS A YEAR.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO STATISTICS OTHER THAN I'LL HAVE ONE OF THE SCHOOL GUYS COME IN AND TALK FOR THIS.

BUT WE ARE TRULY LOSING OUR KIDS.

WE DON'T HAVE TEACHERS. MY DAUGHTER DOESN'T GET HER.

HER PROGRAM AT CARROLL MIDDLE SCHOOL DOES NOT GET HER HER APPROVED DIAGNOSTIC PROGRAM BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A TEACHER THERE THAT CAN SUPPORT IT AND DO IT.

AND I'M SURE SOME OF YOU ALL IN HERE HAVE THAT SAME PROBLEM.

WE ARE LOSING KIDS SO FAST IN SOUTH LAKE THAT WE'RE THE SIXTH POOREST SCHOOL IN THE STATE, BUT YET WE WANT TO RUBBER STAMP ONE ACRE LOTS EVERYWHERE.

THAT MAKES THREE AND A HALF TO $4 MILLION, STARTING PRICE POINTS IN MY WORLD.

SO ANY HIGH, ANY MEDIUM DENSITY TO LOW DENSITY WOULD WILL NEVER DRIVE YOUNG FAMILIES IN THIS TOWN.

WE'RE RELYING ON EVERYBODY ELSE TO MOVE OUT OF FOXBORO OR OR SOUTHVIEW OR TIMBERON TYPE SCENARIO.

AND THIS RIGHT HERE PROVIDES EMPTY NESTING.

IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OLDER FAMILIES WHO HAVE KIDS THAT ARE GRADUATING, THAT WANT TO GO SOMETHING SMALL BUT STILL ENJOY TOWN SQUARE, WHICH EVERYBODY DOES.

I DON'T EVER GO ANYWHERE WITH TOWN SQUARE, TOWN SQUARE.

I GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT ALL THE TIME.

DATE NIGHT, TOWN SQUARE.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

SO TOWN SQUARE IS AN ATTRACTION.

WE'RE TEN MINUTES FROM THE AIRPORT.

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BUT THIS THIS PRODUCT IS MORE THAN JUST A CROSSWALK OR AN EMERGENCY EXIT.

THIS IS THIS IS DEVELOPING SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS ME TO STAY IN SOUTHLAKE WHEN MY KIDS, MY SENIOR LEAVES.

AND I WANT TO STAY IN SOUTHLAKE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO KEEP UP WITH A HALF ACRE ACRE LOT.

IT MIGHT NOT BE Y'ALL, BUT THIS IS A HUGE REQUEST.

CAROLYN PARK IS GOING TO BLOW UP AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOLD OUT BEFORE FEBRUARY, MARCH, WHENEVER IT OPENS UP.

IT WILL BE SOLD OUT. I GET TEN CALLS A WEEK ON THAT DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS THAT WHAT IT IS? BUT BETTER BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO WHAT WE ENJOY.

ALL OF US. TOWN SQUARE, THE WALKABILITY, THE LOCATION, THE AMENITIES, THE FOOD, EVERYTHING.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO ENHANCE THAT AND MAKE IT BETTER.

AND THIS ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE TO GROW OUR KIDS AND AND CONTINUE TO HAVE KIDS BUTTS IN SEATS.

ONE OTHER STATISTIC, AND I JUST I READ THIS, THEY COULD LOSE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TODAY, 100% ANY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THEY COULD TAKE IT DOWN AND NOT BE AFFECTED AND STILL NEED MORE KIDS IN SCHOOL.

THAT IS A SCARY SITUATION THAT WE ARE TRULY LOSING THAT AND MORE SO THE TEACHERS.

WE CANNOT GET GOOD TEACHERS.

WE CANNOT KEEP GOOD TEACHERS, NOR CAN WE PROVIDE THE HELP THAT OUR MY DAUGHTER SPECIFICALLY NEEDS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FUND IT.

THEY CAN'T HIRE IT. SO THAT'S A REFLECTION OF THE FACT THAT EVERY TIME WHEN I DEVELOP FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN SOUTH LAKE, YOU KNOW, ON THE NORTH SIDE, I GOT RUBBER STAMPED ONE ACRE. WELL, GREAT, I GET TO BUILD $4 MILLION HOUSES, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANY 30-YEAR-OLD FAMILIES THAT CAN COME AND WITH YOUNG KIDS TO BUILD A $4 MILLION HOUSE. OH, SURE.

SORRY. THANK YOU.

AND I WILL. I WILL ADDRESS ANYTHING YOU WANT.

CALL ME ANY TIME. I LOVE TO TALK.

WE COULD DO ANOTHER ZOOM WITH FOXBOROUGH.

I'D LOVE TO DO IT. THANK YOU.

AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THERE'S A COPY OF THAT FIRE MARSHAL'S REPORT ABOUT THIS.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR SORRY FOR TAKING SO LONG, GUYS.

THANK YOU, MS. ADCOCK.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. MICHAEL CARTER. YOU APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.

MICHAEL CARTER.

I'VE LIVED HERE 20 COMING UP ON 23 YEARS.

WHEN I MOVED, MOVED HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF 2000, THERE WERE FOUR TRAFFIC LIGHTS BETWEEN 114 AND PATTONVILLE, WHICH IS I LIVE OFF OF PATTONVILLE AND I COULD TRAVEL AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY OR NIGHT, AND IT TOOK TEN MINUTES.

SURE. NOW I'M LUCKY TO GET TO TOWN SQUARE IN 15 MINUTES SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON TIME OF THE DAY AND TIMING OF THE LIGHTS.

IT'S 20 MINUTES.

I USE CAROL A LOT AND A LOT OF TIMES I AM BACKED UP PAST FROM 1709, PAST THE NORTHERN EDGE OF YOUR PROPERTY.

I JUST I CANNOT SEE ADDING A BUILDING.

A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

AND WHAT IS IT, 20, 28, 28 LOTS.

ALL DUMPING OUT ON TO CAROL.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE TIMES WHEN IT'S GOING TO TAKE THREE LIGHT TRAFFIC LIGHT CYCLES TO GET FROM THE SERVICE ROAD 114 SERVICE ROAD TO 1709.

IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

I'M SORRY.

WELL, TRAFFIC IS OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WITH.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

WE'LL TELL YOU THAT CONSIDERING THE VOLUMES THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE ROADS, ESPECIALLY AT THE BUSY TIMES OF DAYS, THE TRAFFIC THAT THIS WILL ADD WILL PROBABLY HAVE ZERO OR LITTLE EFFECT TO THE TRAFFIC JUST BECAUSE IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE AS COMPARED TO WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.

BUT WE'RE DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE EXPERTS WILL WILL WEIGH IN ON THAT.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

YEAH. AND JUST ONE MORE THING TO APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT.

AND THAT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR US TO MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYTHING OUT OF THIS TRAFFIC STUDY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

AND WE'RE NOT. THIS IS THE CITY KNOWS THAT EVERYBODY THE STAFF KNOWS THAT WE NEED TO GET SOME RESOLUTION OF CAROL.

THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS THAT.

THE CITY. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THEY LIKE THE TRAFFIC IN A SENSE OF IT BRINGS IT MEANS PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MONEY IN OUR TOWN.

THEY'RE GOING SHOPPING.

THEY'RE EATING FOOD.

THEY'RE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE VISITING OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF THAT EITHER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE ARE WE HAVE A NICE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE THINGS AND OPPORTUNITIES AND THE AMENITIES WE HAVE.

SO SOMETIMES AND AGAIN, I DIDN'T MAKE THIS UP, SO I'M JUST KIND OF SOMEWHAT QUOTING PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE INFLUENCE.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S CARROLL IS NOT GOING TO GET BETTER IN A SENSE OF YOU'RE ABLE TO TRAVEL TEN MINUTES LIKE YOU DID 23 YEARS

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WE ARE IN TEN MINUTES FROM A THIRD LARGEST INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IN AMERICA.

WE HAVE WE ARE A CITY.

WE ARE A CITY WITH A THE BEST TOWN SQUARE, IN MY OPINION, IN THE NATION.

EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO DUPLICATE IT. NO ONE'S BEEN ABLE TO BEAT IT.

AND WE KNOW THAT. AND WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL TOWN.

SO I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER WHAT.

CARROLL WHATEVER THE EXPERTS WHO ARE SMARTER THAN I AM, WHATEVER THEY TELL US TO DO, I MEAN, WE'LL DO IT ALL DAY LONG AND HELP PAY FOR IT.

SO ANYWAYS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE'LL KEEP YOU GUYS UPDATED AS WELL AS THAT KEEPS GOING.

THANK YOU, MR. CARTER.

NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. MIKE WILSON. PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.

HI. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MIKE WILSON.

I LIVE AT 809 CROSS LANE, WHICH IS THE HOUSE RIGHT THERE TO THE LEFT OF THE POND.

SO, TRAVIS AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND HE'S BEEN NICE ENOUGH TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH US AND HEARING OUR CONCERNS AND TRYING TO POTENTIALLY ADJUST THE DESIGN TO GIVE CONSIDERATION FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE THINK ABOUT LIVING THERE.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A VERY LARGE BRICK WALL, WHICH JESSICA IS OUR HOA PRESIDENT AT FOXBORO.

AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME RECENT ISSUES WITH THAT.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE WHAT YOU ALL SAY ON TRUST THAT IT'S A PART OF PLANNING AND ZONING, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S ENFORCEABLE, BUT A VERY EXPENSIVE, NICE STONE WALL, I THINK IS VERY CONCERNING FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORS THAT SHARE A WALL WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT.

SO, I SHARE CONCERNS OBVIOUSLY, ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

SOME OF THIS IN THE DESIGN THAT YOU'RE SHOWING RIGHT NOW IS A LITTLE BIT NEW TO ME.

THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD IS, IS THE FIRE GATE, IS THAT MANDATORY OR IS THAT A PREFERENCE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? YOU MEAN THE GATE ITSELF? YEAH, THE GATE. INSTEAD OF BEING A SOLID WALL.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GET THIS THING APPROVED FOR THEIR APPROVAL IS THAT THEY REQUIRE AN ACCESS POINT.

SO THAT'S MANDATORY, NOT A PREFERENCE.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THEY COULD PRODUCE A CODE FOR THAT? YEAH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN DO THAT.

YEAH. YEAH. AND WHEN WE GET SO WHEN THE P AND Z STUFF, WHICH IS NEXT, I MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO GET, I MEAN, THE DETAILS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE HERE AND I THINK IT'S COUNCIL.

THEY'LL BE HERE AS WELL. THE CHIEF WILL BE HERE.

SO THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS.

SO OBVIOUSLY PIN HIM DOWN ON AND GET THAT ANSWER.

BUT YEAH, 100%. I AGREE.

I'M I MEAN, I WANT THIS ANSWER AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

I WANT I WANT THEM TO SHOW YOU IN A IN AN ORDINANCE AND BY THE WAY, GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST ONE TOO BEFORE YOU GET GOING AGAIN IS THAT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE ZONING HOW MENDEZ'S PROPERTY WAS CURRENTLY ZONED AND WHAT THAT RULE WAS TO KEEP YOU KNOW WHO MAINTAINS THAT THAT THAT BRICK WALL ON TOP OF IT.

I WILL EVEN HAVE I WILL MENTION IT ON YOUR BEHALF, ON THE BEHALF TO THE COUNCIL OF HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS A PERMANENT SOLUTION THAT WE MAINTAIN IT.

SO YOU GUYS KNOW I'M ON YOUR SIDE FOR THAT.

I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO FEEL LIKE AFTER WELL, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

BUT AFTER IN TEN, 15 YEARS FROM NOW THAT THE HOA TAKES OVER, WE WILL GET SOMETHING IN OUR ZONING THAT AND THEN AND THEN REGURGITATED BY THE COUNCIL TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS IS A ENFORCEABLE ACT BY THE CITY.

SO I'M AND SO WE HAD ALSO TALKED ABOUT WE HAD ASKED IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO JUST FINISH OUT BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY ODD DEAD END STREET WITH A CANDY STRIPE BARRIER.

THAT'S QUITE AN EYESORE.

AND YOU ALL DECLINED TO ADD A SMALL CUL DE SAC THERE.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU WORKED IN THAT TURNABOUT BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE.

OUR DRIVEWAY IS CRACKING BECAUSE OF THOSE TRUCKS THAT ARE BACKING UP AND OUR DRIVEWAY.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE NEW TO ME.

WHERE IS THAT A RETENTION POND OR IS THAT GOING TO BE A POND THAT'S PERMANENTLY FILLED? IT WILL BE PERMANENTLY FILLED.

IT IS ACTING AS A DETENTION POND, BUT WE'LL HAVE A LEVEL FOR IT TO BE FILLED WITH THE FOUNTAIN.

SO IT'LL BE VERY ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AS WELL AS HAVE WATER, BUT IT'S MEANT TO CARRY ALL THAT LOAD OF DRAINAGE THAT'S COMING TO Y'ALL RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. AND THE SPACE BETWEEN YOUR STONE WALL AND THE DRIVE SPACE, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE, LIKE, LARGE PRIVACY EVERGREEN TREES THERE TO OBSCURE THE VIEW? WELL, THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS TRY AND SAVE THE TREES THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING THERE IN THAT AREA.

THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TREES RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND SAVE.

BUT SHOULD THERE BE GAPS OR AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE AREN'T TREES, THEN WE CAN SUPPLEMENT THOSE WITH ADDITIONAL EVERGREEN TREES IF THAT'S THE PREFERENCE.

YEAH. SO I'D SAY JUST ON THAT TOO, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS YOU SAW THE SKETCH OF THE COMMERCIAL.

IT'S KIND OF A PENCIL SKETCH.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY AND NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED FROM THE VIEWS OF THE VILLA SIDE OF IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU SAW THE POND NOW AND IN THE CIRCLE TURNAROUND, NEXT PHASE, YOU'LL GET KIND OF LIKE ANOTHER ALMOST COMPLETE MOVIE SET UP.

YOU KNOW, YOU'LL GET MORE PICTURES THAT ARE MORE REALISTIC AND MORE DETAILED FROM EVERYTHING FROM THE DRAINAGE, FROM HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY BACK BY THEN.

A LOT MORE DETAIL ON THE WALL AT COUNCIL.

IT'S LIKE WATCHING A CINEMARK MOVIE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.

I'M GOING TO HAVE RENDERINGS OF ALL THE ALL THE ALL THE RESIDENCES OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FROM THE FROM THE ELEVATION.

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THE TREE LANDSCAPING GETS INVOLVED WHERE WE START LAYING OUT LANDSCAPING AND WHERE IT GOES, WHAT CALIBER OF TREES WE'RE PUTTING IN AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT.

SO YOUR ANSWERS WILL BE YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED, OBVIOUSLY MORE AND MORE AS THIS PROCESS GETS GOING.

IT'S SO EARLY. WE OBVIOUSLY THIS GOT SWITCHED AROUND 50, YOU KNOW, BY CUT IN HALF.

WHATEVER. IT CHANGES THE DYNAMICS OF WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.

SO BECAUSE I DO SO WE HAVE CLEAR SIGHTLINES INTO THE MEDICAL COMPLEX.

SO IF TREES GO AWAY, THEN WE SEE A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING 24 OVER SEVEN.

WELL, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY ADD TREES AROUND THE POND TO KEEP WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.

I ALSO I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING UNIT 17 UP THERE, BUT THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO OUR NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND THESE ARE I THINK YOU HAD SAID THESE ARE BETWEEN 3 TO 6000 SQUARE FOOT, 3 TO 5, 3 TO 5000 SQUARE FOOT VILLAS WITH THESE LOT SIZES.

THEY ARE VERY LONG.

THEY'RE ABOUT TWICE AS LONG AS OUR HOMES AND FOXBORO, FROM THE LOOKS OF IT.

AND SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE STARING AT A HUGE WALL OF A HOUSE NEXT TO THEM.

WE ARE INCLUDING A BUFFER, A GREEN SPACE BUFFER NEXT TO THAT LOT AS WELL.

YEAH. DOES THAT MEAN TREES? YOU KNOW, THE DIMENSION IS BY CHANCE TEN FEET OR SO.

YEAH. IN THERE AND WE CAN SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH WITH LANDSCAPING AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND KEEP IN MIND, THE HOUSE ISN'T GOING TO BE THE ENTIRE LOT.

IT'S VERY, VERY LONG.

IT'S FROM A I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE AERIAL HERE IS JUST A TAD BIT LONGER WITH THE YOU KNOW, IT'S PAST THE POOL, RIGHT? IT'S A LOT LONGER. I MEAN, IT JUST IS.

YEAH. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

OKAY. OKAY. THANKS, MIKE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MR.. NEXT SPEAKER IS MISS JESSICA HARWOOD.

HELLO. I'M ANOTHER JESSICA.

I AM ALSO ON CROSS LANE, SO I AM DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND I DO WANT TO REITERATE WITH WHAT JESSICA ADCOCK SAID AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY AWARE OF WHAT THE CITY OF SOUTH LAKE FUTURE LAND AND USE POLICY IS. I MEAN, THAT WAS JUST PRESENTED, I THINK IT WAS APPROVED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

I'M ASSUMING THROUGH YOUR DUE DILIGENCE YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE LOOKED THROUGH THAT PLAN, UNDERSTOOD WHAT THAT PLAN SAID BEFORE YOU MADE ANY PURCHASES OR DID ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS LAND. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT IS IN PLACE FOR A REASON.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I KNOW WHEN WE CAME IN AND BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY, WE WERE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE THROUGH AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY CUT OFF.

RIGHT. BECAUSE WE WANTED OUR KIDS TO HAVE A SHORTER STREET.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, MY SON IS ON THAT STREET ALL THE TIME.

AND I WOULD BE IF WE PUT IN A GATE, ANY KIND OF GATE, WHETHER IT'S EMERGENCY, WHATNOT, IT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE TRAFFIC, WHETHER IT'S JUST EMERGENCY VEHICLES, BECAUSE NOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SERVICE, YOU KNOW, THESE 28 VILLAS.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT ANY TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET SCARES ME BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF KIDS WE HAVE.

AND I MEAN, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BIG KIDS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LITTLE KIDS.

AND THEY ARE OUTSIDE ALL THE TIME, AT LEAST WHEN IT'S NOT 107.

BUT I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE OUTSIDE PLAYING AND NOT ON VIDEO GAMES.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT AS A MOM, IT REALLY WORRIES ME BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN WE DO HAVE THE CARS THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SCARY.

SURE. AND WE TYPICALLY HAVE A LOT OF CARS ALONG OUR STREET THAT PARK ALONG, YOU KNOW, ALONG THERE.

SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM.

BUT I MEAN, OUR STREET IS ALREADY PACKED AS IT IS.

SO I JUST TO BE HONEST, I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH A GATE, AN EMERGENCY GATE GATE OF ANY KIND.

IT'S GOING TO ADD ZERO TRAFFIC.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

ANYTIME YOU IF YOU HAVE A GATE AND IT'S MEANT TO DO TO HAVE THRUWAY FOR ANY TRAFFIC, THEN THAT'S MORE TRAFFIC.

I'LL TRY TO GET A LETTER FROM THE FIRE CHIEF TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT THE WHAT THE STATISTICS ARE.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENTION, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, IT SAYS THAT THAT EXIT OR THAT EMERGENCY EXIT SHOULD BE 1709.

I MEAN, AND IT'S THERE FOR A REASON, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IT DOES IT AFFECTS US DIRECTLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MOVING IN, I WILL TELL YOU, WE DID NOT THINK THAT THAT WAS EVER GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY TO CROSS LANE.

THE INTENTION FROM THE CITY WAS THAT THAT WOULD ALWAYS BE A CUT OFF.

THERE WOULD NEVER BE ANY ACCESS TO THAT.

SO THAT'S A CONCERN FOR US.

LET ME BACK UP HERE. ANY STREET THAT DOESN'T HAVE A CUL DE SAC AT THE END IS INTENDED TO GO THROUGH OKAY, OTHERWISE THEY WOULD HAVE BUILT A CUL DE SAC AT THE END THERE. AND NOW YOU MAY NOT HAVE THOUGHT PLAN DOESN'T SAY THAT.

IT SAYS THE CITY'S INTENTION IS FOR IT TO NOT DO THAT WELL.

SO I THINK WE CAN READ AND WE THAT WE'RE FULFILLING THAT PLAN AND MAKING IT WORK BY HAVING THIS EMERGENCY GATE THERE.

OTHERWISE THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A TURNAROUND PUT THERE.

THE CITY IS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT CROSS LANE.

IT IS NOT A TO CODE STREET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A SUFFICIENT TURNAROUND AT THE END.

WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ALLOWS IT TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE WITHOUT ADDING A BIG TURNAROUND AT THE END OR ANY ANY TRAFFIC TO YOUR

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AND I WANT A LITTLE CONTEXT OF LIKE WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THIS TO JUST SO THE HISTORY OF THIS.

THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN THOUGHT OF WAY BEFORE I EVEN BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTENTION OF OF JESSICA FOR FOXBOROUGH PEOPLE AND AN HOA.

YOU KNOW, WE I'M AGAIN I'M I KNOW SOME PEOPLE OUT HERE AND BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND I I'M VERY BIG ON COMMUNICATION AND TRYING TO SEE WHAT HOW AND WHAT WHAT I CAN AND CAN'T DO.

SO EVERYBODY THAT IS ANYBODY THAT HAS AN EFFECT HAS SEEN THIS SEEN VERSION ONE VERSION TO VERSION THREE, VERSION FOUR, WHATEVER WE'RE ON NOW, MODIFIED AND DISCUSSED BASED ON WHAT I WANT, THEY CAN'T GIVE ME ANY INFORMATION THAT THEY THEY'RE GOING TO APPROVE IT OR, YOU KNOW, OR LIKE IT OR WHATEVER.

BUT IT'S IT'S THE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY ALL POINT TO THAT THEY SAID THEY LOVE THAT THEY WANT THAT.

AND THIS PLAN FITS THE MOLD OF WHAT THEY INTEND.

SOUTH LAKE. TO POTENTIALLY MOVE TOWARDS THAT.

THIS FITS THERE. IF IF I WAS TRYING TO DO THIS ON WHITECHAPEL OR BOB JONES, OBVIOUSLY THIS WOULD BE A TERRIBLE IDEA.

NOBODY WANTS TO BE AT BOB JONES WITH ALL THAT AND HAVE THAT HERE.

SO WE IT IS VERY SPECIFIC TO THIS REGION AT THIS POINT ON MAIN AND MAIN, ESSENTIALLY, AND THIS IS WHY WE COME UP WITH IT.

SO AGAIN, I GUESS THE EMERGENCY GATE SIDE OF THINGS, I WILL DO EVERYTHING TO GET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE NOT. IF THEY SAID WE DIDN'T NEED IT, I'LL JUST CLOSE IT OFF AND BE BEAUTIFUL WITH GET THAT THAT RAILING GONE.

LOVE IT. IT'D BE BEAUTIFUL.

IT WOULD I WOULD IT WOULD BE THE STONEWALL WERE PUTTING IN IS UNBELIEVABLE BUT I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THAT CALL THAT'S NOT US.

THAT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO TALK TO OBVIOUSLY THE CHIEF SO.

WELL I MEAN, I THINK OBVIOUSLY THAT'S COMING OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO.

NO, I AGREE. I LOVE IT. NO, HEY, I'M ON YOUR SIDE.

IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, SO.

AND I GOT A DAY, EVEN IF WE PUT A GATE THERE, EVEN IF HE AGREED TO PUT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A CONNECTION THERE FOR OUR SIDE, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE HEARTBURN ABOUT YOUR SIDE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A TURNAROUND.

THAT IS AN INCOMPLETE STREET RIGHT NOW.

AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE A HARD, BUT IT'S NOT A HUGE STREET.

AND WE'VE HAD EMERGENCY VEHICLES WHEN WE'VE NEEDED THEM AND IT'S BEEN FINE.

AND OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT THAT CONCERNED BECAUSE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.

AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY IN THE USE PLAN THAT IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO DO ANYTHING.

IF THEY'D HAVE KNOWN THAT, THAT STREET WOULDN'T HAVE GONE ON WAY BACK WHEN, WHEN IT WAS SUBDIVIDED, THEY WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR A TURNAROUND THERE.

OKAY. BUT THE MOST RECENT ONE SAYS IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE.

SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S THE MOST RECENT THINKING.

AND THAT'S WHAT AND WE'RE TRYING TO HONOR THAT.

THE POINT IS WE'RE TRYING TO HONOR THAT.

NO, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNICATION.

I REALLY DO. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY, AS A MOM OF YOUNG CHILDREN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR US.

I MEAN, OUR KIDS ARE OUTSIDE ALL THE TIME, WHICH I'M GLAD.

AND THAT'S WHY WE MOVED THERE.

RIGHT? BECAUSE WE KNEW IT WAS A SHORT STREET THEY WERE GOING TO PLAY OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, SO OBVIOUSLY, I HAVE THAT CONCERN.

THE OTHER COUPLE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO ADDRESS.

I GUESS JUST THE NEXT THING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES, I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I GUESS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE SAYING NO TRAFFIC WOULD BE ADDED. I MEAN, REGARDLESS OF THIS STUDY, I MEAN, I COME OUT AND LANE ONTO CARROLL ALL THE TIME.

I USE IT ALL THE TIME.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN SOUTHVIEW AND IN FOXBOROUGH USE THAT.

I MEAN, I'M ABLE TO SEE WITH MY OWN EYES THAT TRAFFIC IS NOT GOOD THERE.

AND IF I TRY TO GO OUT THERE AT 5:00 RUSH HOUR, SOMETIMES THAT TRAFFIC IS ALL THE WAY BACKED UP FROM 1709 ALL THE WAY TO OMB.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ADDING THIS IS NOT GOING TO ADD MORE TRAFFIC.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NO WAY.

YEAH. AND IT'S MORE A PERCENTAGE, RIGHT? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE OLD STUDY THAT WAS DONE SIX YEARS AGO, IT'S THE AND THERE'S MORE NUMBERS ON THERE THAT I CARE TO READ OR WILL READ IS JUST TOO MUCH FOR ME.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS WHEN THEY SHOW THESE IMPACTS, THEY'RE SHOWING THEY'RE STUDYING, YOU KNOW, THE MORNING RUSH, THE EVENING RUSH.

THEY'RE STUDYING THE CARS, HOW FAR IT STACKS UP, BY THE WAY, NOT ONE TIME DID IT GO BACK UP TO OMB.

IT ACTUALLY THEIR STUDY SIX YEARS AGO WENT AS FAR AS THE IT WAS SIX YEARS AGO BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT AND I'VE HAD TO STOP AND WAIT TO GET IN THERE.

IT'S NOT I MEAN, IT'S YOU KNOW, THAT CAN'T BE ARGUE WITH YOU.

I'M JUST SAYING IT WAS THE FURTHEST IT SAID ON THIS STUDY THAT IT WENT AS FAR AS OUR SOUTH CORNER.

OKAY. THAT'S JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE STUDY SAID.

I WAS NOT INVOLVED.

I WAS NOT EVEN AROUND THAT AROUND.

I UNDERSTOOD. YES. SO ALL WE'RE DOING IS PROVIDING THE PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO OUR MAYOR WILL HAVE TO DIGEST AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST METHOD OF PLAN TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR FOR RESIDENCES, FOR TRAFFIC AND WHATEVER.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GET BETTER. I PROMISE YOU THAT.

IT WILL NOT GET BETTER.

IT JUST WON'T. THE IMPACT AS A PERCENTAGE IS WHAT HE'S SAYING, THAT IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A STATISTIC AND AMOUNT OF CARS, WE'RE ADDING 28 CARS POTENTIALLY IS WHAT HOW THEY HOW THEY ADDED UP. AND IN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING WHICH IS AGAIN THIS IS NOT A THIS IT WOULD BE BUSY AT NIGHT IF IT GOES RESTAURANT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE FLIP OVER.

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BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DETERMINE IF THEY WANT THAT TRAFFIC OR NOT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW.

I AM ALL ABOUT GETTING TRAFFIC BETTER.

IF WE COULD WIDEN IT, I WOULD WIDEN IT IN A HEARTBEAT.

I JUST DON'T THINK, CAROL AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDIES IS GOING TO GET BETTER.

WE'RE JUST TRYING NOT TO IMPACT IT WHERE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, I GUESS.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE CAN SAY ON THAT.

I UNDERSTAND AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S UP TO OUR CITY COUNCIL.

BUT THAT'S WHY I'M HERE AS A RESIDENT EXPRESSING MY CONCERN, BECAUSE I KNOW REGARDLESS OF WHAT THAT STUDY SAID SIX YEARS AGO, YEAH, I KNOW.

I PHYSICALLY SIT THERE AT THAT STOP SIGN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO LET ME IN, SAYING A LITTLE PRAYER, TRYING TO GIVE A LITTLE WAVE.

HOPEFULLY THEY'LL LET ME CUT IN THERE SO YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT ABOUT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY.

BUT I SEE IT ALL THE TIME.

I UNDERSTAND. OBVIOUSLY, WE USE IT.

SO, AGAIN, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY.

BUT AGAIN, AS A RESIDENT, I THINK THAT'S VERY CONCERNING.

WE OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC IN SOUTH LAKE, EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S GOTTEN TO BE ATROCIOUS.

SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE A RESIDENT.

WE ALL KNOW THAT. SO IF THERE'S A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT COMES OUT AND SAYS IT'S NOT ADDING ANYTHING, THERE'S JUST NO WAY THAT'S ACCURATE.

SO ANYWAYS, I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS THIS 17 YEAR BEING RIGHT UP AGAINST OUR POOR NEIGHBOR, I MEAN, GRANTED, THAT'S NOT ME.

I MEAN, I'M A COUPLE HOUSES DOWN, BUT I WOULD REALLY FEEL FOR THAT PERSON, THAT NEIGHBOR.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE INTRUSIVE.

I DO MIRROR WHAT JESSICA SAID ABOUT THE LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOME OF THE WALLS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I MOVED TO SOUTH LAKE, WE HAD A SIMILAR ISSUE WITH THE WALLS AND OUR HOA, AND IT ENDED UP COSTING US A LOT OF MONEY.

AND THEN NOBODY WANTS TO FOOT THE LEGAL BILL AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH THAT.

SO AGAIN, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD FEEL COMFORTABLE.

AND THEN I THINK OTHER SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP.

I MEAN, I'VE HEARD YOUR CONCERNS WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT I GUESS THE CITY WANTS US TO START BUILDING MORE OF THESE HOUSES, NOT MORE.

I'M SAYING MORE HOUSES THAT ARE AFFORDABLE.

AND WHEN I SAY ENTRY LEVEL FOR SOUTH LAKE, IT'S NOT ENTRY LEVEL IN WEST TEXAS.

IT IS ENTRY LEVEL FOR SOUTH LAKE, WHICH SOUNDS ABSURD, BUT A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS IS A VERY SUCCESSFUL YOUNG MAN FAMILY THAT WANTS TO BUILD A FAMILY.

WE DON'T HAVE THOSE.

WE DO NOT HAVE. I UNDERSTAND.

BECAUSE I MEAN, WE ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION, RIGHT? OUR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS 20 YEARS OLD.

THOSE PEOPLE MOVED OUT.

THEY WERE EMPTY NESTERS. WE MOVED IN.

WE HAVE YOUNG KIDS.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND I THINK IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GETTING PRESSURE FROM SOMEONE, THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BUILD THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE A DECREASE IN NOT PRESSURE, JUST RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE I CAN'T I ACTUALLY WAS I CAME TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BEFORE THIS AND ASKED THE PEOPLE I KNOW IN THE SCHOOL BOARD OF WHY MY DAUGHTER CAN'T GET THE HELP SHE NEEDS.

AND IN THE ANSWER WAS, WELL, WE LOSE 50 KIDS A YEAR AT $10,000 A KID.

AND THAT TREND IS CONTINUING FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS AND PEOPLE ARE LEAVING SOUTH LAKE.

SO WE ARE LOSING MONEY.

WE GIVE $37 MILLION A.

RUBBING IT EVERY YEAR AND WHICH MAKES THIS BASICALLY A FOOD STAMP SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I MEAN, MY KID IS ALSO IN THE SAME SCHOOL DISTRICT.

YEAH, I HAVE HEARD THE SAME RHETORIC, WHATEVER.

BUT I THINK ALSO OUR DISTRICT HAS ITS OWN ISSUES.

SURELY IT DOES HAVE DIFFERENT ROOT CAUSES THAT EITHER THEY'RE WILLING OR NOT WILLING TO FIX.

BUT IT'S NOT FAIR TO US AS NEIGHBORS TO HAVE TO FIX THAT.

NO, NOR IS IT FAIR FOR THE CITY TO SAY, HEY, COME FIX THIS PROBLEM THAT WE'RE NOT WILLING TO FIX.

SO, I MEAN, I HEAR YOU THERE.

I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE KIDS IN THE SAME DISTRICT.

WE ALL HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS.

I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS YOU DO.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, IT'S KIND OF A MESS.

BUT I JUST I JUST WANT TO SAY, AS A HOMEOWNER, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS.

WE DON'T WANT TO GATE. I DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC.

AS A MOM, I'M VERY CONCERNED FOR ALL THE KIDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE ARE LITTLE, LITTLE GUYS, LITTLE GIRLS.

SO MOST STREET I'VE EVER SEEN IT SAYS CLASS CLASSIC, GRADUATING AT 2031 OR WHATEVER IT IS.

SO SO, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I JUST I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ZERO TRAFFIC, WHETHER IF YOU'RE BUILDING A GATE, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A REASON FOR IT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THINK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND IF IT COMES BACK THAT IT'S GOING TO ADD ZERO TRAFFIC, OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS NOT ACCURATE.

SO I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS.

WE ALL KNOW HOW BAD IT IS AND WE ALL KNOW HOW YOU'RE SAYING A PRAYER SO SOMEBODY WILL LET YOU IN.

SO I THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HARWOOD.

NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. JACKSON. DEAN, I BELIEVE.

PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.

WELL, GOOD EVENING.

YES, MY NAME IS JACKSON DEAN.

I LIVE ON 920 OMB, SO JUST YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE MY POOL THERE IN THE BACKGROUND.

SO NATURALLY, MY CONCERN IS JUST BEING ABLE TO LOOK INTO THESE HOUSES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TEN FOOT SETBACK.

THE HOUSES THAT WE HAVE ARE ELEVATED CURRENTLY.

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AT LEAST A GOOD PART OF IT GOES DOWN.

YEAH. YEAH. AND MY NEIGHBOR IS JUST THE SAME THING.

AND SO TEN FEET, THE ONLY WAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THESE HOUSES AND BE LOOKING RIGHT INTO THEM IS IF THERE'S SUFFICIENT TREE COVERAGE.

AND THE WINTER, THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MY MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS THE SETBACK.

AGAIN, THESE THESE HOUSES GO BACK.

VERY FAR AND IN AN EIGHT FOOT STONE WALL ISN'T GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I MEAN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE STRAIGHT THROUGH INTO THESE HOUSES.

SO THE BIG THING WOULD BE THE TREES.

AND SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS ONE.

ARE YOU ALL GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE TREES THAT ARE EXISTING? THERE'S A LOT OF THEM ON THE PROPERTY LINES.

EVEN ON YOUR SIDE.

HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING STRAIGHT IN BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE ON OUR WHOLE STREET? IT'S IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THE SAME ISSUE.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND SAVE AS MANY OF THOSE TREES AS POSSIBLE.

AND LIKE I MENTIONED TO THE THE FELLOW EARLIER, WHERE THERE'S GAPS, WE CAN SUPPLEMENT THAT AND WE CAN SUPPLEMENT THOSE WITH EVERGREENS TO DO THAT.

NOW, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE HIGHER THAN THESE LOTS IS A GOOD THING.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE.

PEOPLE LOOKING DOWN ON TOP OF YOU, IF IT WAS THE IF IT WAS THE REVERSE.

AND OTHER THING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE ARE THE LOTS, NOT THE HOMES.

THE HOMES. DON'T GO BACK TO THE ALLEY.

THERE'S A SETBACK LINE HERE THAT YOU CAN SEE.

SO THE HOMES WON'T EXTEND BEYOND THIS.

THIS DASHED LINE HERE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ROUGHLY LINES UP WITH THE REAR OF THE OF THE POOL AREA AND STUFF HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, DON'T MISUNDERSTAND THIS ENTIRE LOT.

THAT'S THE ENTIRE PROPERTY THAT THEY'LL OWN.

THE HOUSE ITSELF WON'T GO BACK.

THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 120FT FROM BACK TO BACK OF THE HOUSING PIECE OF IT.

AND AND IF IT WAS A VILLA OR IF IT WAS MEDIUM DENSITY OR IF IT WAS A ONE ACRE LOT, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THIS SCENARIO WOULD NOT CHANGE.

YOU'RE STILL GOING TO SEE THE ONLY THING I'M PROTECTING ON THE VILLA SIDE OF IT THAT I CAN CONTROL IS THAT TRY TO REDUCE VISIBILITY TO YOUR BACKYARD, MEANING MAYBE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN. EVERY HOUSE IN THE BACK DOESN'T HAVE WINDOWS.

SO YOU WON'T. SO YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT THEM, BUT THEY CAN'T SEE YOU IF THEY'RE SOMEWHERE BECAUSE IT'S ONLY TWO STORY BUILDINGS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THREE.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I AGREE WITH YOU.

WE MAKE THE LOTS MORE ATTRACTIVE WITH TREES.

I WOULD NOT TAKE A TREE DOWN IF I DON'T HAVE TO AND THERE WOULD BE A BUFFER PLUS THE STREET, PLUS THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN THE HOUSE AND THEN THE HOUSE.

WE ALWAYS REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING ON EVERY SINGLE HOUSE.

SO EVERY HOUSE WILL HAVE TO PLANT SO MANY TREES.

SO EVERY EVERYTHING WE DO TAKE DOWN MORE LIKE WE'LL PUT BACK UP.

SO I I'M WITH YOU.

I DON'T WANT I DON'T SAY AND VICE VERSA IF SOMEONE'S IN THEIR VILLA AND THEY THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU KNOW BUT THE NEIGHBOR BUT WE WANT AS MUCH SCREEN AS POSSIBLE.

THAT'S MY TARGET AND MY GOAL AS WELL.

AND THAT COMES LATER ON WITH THE LANDSCAPING.

AND HAVE YOU ALL HAD I KNOW I SPOKE WITH JODY.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT AND MEETING WITH ME, BUT HAVE YOU ALL HAD THIS STUDY DONE WITH THE DRAINAGE SITUATION? BECAUSE IT'S.

YEAH, IT'S BAD. YES.

YEAH. YEAH. THERE'S THERE'S A DRAIN COMING RIGHT HERE UNDERGROUND THAT WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP AND TAKE UNDERGROUND INTO THIS DETENTION POND HERE.

SO YES, WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE STUDY DONE BY OUR CIVIL ENGINEER AND OF COURSE BEFORE ANYTHING WAS BUILT, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE AN EXTENSIVE, DETAILED STUDY AND THE CITY REVIEWS THAT AND PROBABLY HAS A CONSULTANT REVIEW THAT TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS ALL THE CODES AND HAS ZERO IMPACT ON ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS.

IN FACT, OFTENTIMES IT CAN HELP THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY BY GIVING DRAINAGE A PLACE TO GO, POTENTIALLY THAT NEIGHBOR ON THE NORTH OF OF CROSS THAT HAS THAT STORM DRAIN THERE, THAT'S A TERRIBLE SPOT.

AND IT PROBABLY IS NO GOOD TO FOR ANYBODY IF THEY EVER RESELL OR WHAT DO THEY DO THAT COULD PROBABLY BE ELIMINATED IF WE DO OUR DRAINAGE CORRECTLY.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE LOOKING INTO, OBVIOUSLY, TO IMPROVE.

I SAW ON FIRSTHAND WHEN I WENT TO MIKE'S HOUSE THAT THE FLOW OF WATER WHEN WE GOT RAIN TWO YEARS AGO, IT WAS THE FLOW OF WATER WAS RIDICULOUS. IT JUST IT SHOWED HOW MUCH WATER AND PRESSURE WAS COMING DOWN THAT STREET.

AND THAT WILL BE ELIMINATED.

THIS WILL ALL THIS PIPE, ALL THIS DRAINAGE WILL BE PICKED UP AND PUT INTO DETENTION POD AND THEN MOVED DOWN SOUTH.

SO IT'S THE ENGINEERING PART.

WE IF WE WANTED TO CHEAPEN OUT, WE CAN'T DO IT.

SOUTH LAKE IS AWESOMELY TOUGH ABOUT DRAINAGE AND ENGINEERING AND IT'S A GRUELING PROCESS TO GET A FINAL SIGN OFF.

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I ASSUME IT'LL BE GARAGES IN THE BACK.

YES, SIR. TWO CAR GARAGES, TWO STOREY HOUSES.

OKAY. YEAH.

YEAH. AND THEY'LL BE, I ASSUME, BUILT UP A GOOD BIT AS WELL.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE HOUSES WILL BE ELEVATED FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES.

YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.

WE'LL OBVIOUSLY COMPLY TO WHATEVER DRAINAGE.

SO IT INCLUDES OUR HOUSE AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PRE-DESIGN ELEVATIONS.

SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE ELEVATIONS AS WELL.

SO OUT OF THESE 28 HOMES, IF, SAY, THIS WAS PERFECT, EVERYBODY LOVED IT, THEN ALL THESE ELEVATIONS WILL BE PRE-DESIGNED.

SO WE ALSO KNOW WHAT THE ESTHETICS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

I'M NOT THIS IS NOT A CUSTOMIZATION WHERE SOMEONE CAN COME IN AND BUILD THIS MODERN WHITE BOX THREE STORIES TALL.

IT IS GOING TO BE CONSISTENT.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A VERY TRADITIONAL FEEL TO IT AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, I'LL PROBABLY DO SOMETHING LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS WITH 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS.

SO IT DOESN'T GET REPEATED THAT MUCH.

AND BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE VERY NICE HOMES AND AND LIKE I SAID, MY GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE THE VIEW TO YOUR BACKYARD.

MINIMIZE THAT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE GREEN SPACE AND I WAS HAVING TROUBLE SEEING ON THE SIDE WHERE THE GARAGE IS IS THAT.

YES THAT'S MORE GREEN SPACE.

THAT'S ANOTHER BUFFER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN TO KEEP AWAY FROM THE FENCE, THE WALL.

SO HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE GARAGE? I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING.

SO THE GARAGES WILL GO INSIDE THE PROPERTY.

SO WHAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THAT BUILDING SETBACK IS WHERE THE GARAGE WILL START.

OKAY. YEAH, RIGHT HERE. THE.

THE GARAGE IS IN BACK.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE HERE.

OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE GREENS.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S GREEN SPACE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

YOU MEAN ON THE NORTH? ON THE VERY FAR NORTH, YES.

YEAH. THIS IS THE GREEN GREEN BELT BUFFER WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN BEFORE WE BUILD THE ALLEY.

OKAY. AND THEN THE GARAGES ARE GOING TO BE BACK HERE ABOUT WHERE THAT TEN IS.

WE'LL JUST ACCESS WHERE THE GARAGE IS.

SO THERE WOULD BE A DRIVEWAY.

YEAH. LEADING TO THE GARAGE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GRASS AND OR TREES ON ON EITHER SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY.

OKAY. YEAH. THE GRASS AND OR TREES WOULD BE HELPFUL ON EITHER SIDE OF THE.

ABSOLUTELY 100% JUST AND AGAIN, THE SO IF YOU'RE AS YOU'RE BUILDING THIS FENCE COMING ACROSS A 20 YEAR OLD ELM TREE AND IT'S DIRECTLY RIGHT THERE, REROUTE THE FENCE, IN MY OPINION.

I MEAN THAT'S GOING TO BE EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS ON OMB WILL BE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH US AND WITH THE CONTRACTORS DOING THE WORK, MAKING SURE THAT WE AVOID.

AND I MEAN, THERE'S GOING YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING ABOUT A STONE WALL DOES REQUIRE A FOOTING, SO THAT WILL HAVE TO GO IN THE GROUND.

SO, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS ALIVE.

THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO DO A BUFFER ON THE BACKSIDE, TOO.

SO THAT WAY WE KEEP AWAY FROM THE ROOT SYSTEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I MEAN, THERE IS SOME THERE'S A LOT OF JUNK TREES ON THIS PROPERTY.

I MEAN, THE SEA GREEN DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A GOOD TREE.

THERE'S A LOT OF MESQUITE.

I MEAN, WE GOT EVERY ONE OF THESE THINGS NUMBERED, TREED AND CALIBRATED SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND WHAT TYPE OF TREE IT IS.

THERE'S NOT I MEAN, IT'S IT'S YEAH, IT'S COVERAGE, BUT IT'S NOT THERE'S NOT AS MANY TREES AS PEOPLE THINK.

BUT THE ONES ON THE BORDER OF Y'ALL'S PROPERTY, OF CROSS AND HOLMBY, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL.

THEY'RE BIG. THEY'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.

WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO TAKE THOSE DOWN.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. DEAN.

SO AS THE SUBJECT OF TRAFFIC HAS BEEN SUFFICIENTLY COVERED, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR UP TO ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR A NON TRAFFIC RELATED ITEM.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE AUDIENCE.

STEPHEN SMITH. I LOOK 1050 OMB.

SO I'M ACTUALLY CONCERNED WITH THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BOUNDARY.

I KNOW THIS IS JUST A TOPOGRAPHICAL MAP, BUT WHERE EXACTLY IS THAT BOUNDARY OR THE PROPERTY LINE? BECAUSE THERE'S A DRAINAGE CULVERT BACK THERE.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ON WHICH SIDE OF THAT DRAINAGE CULVERT IS THE PROPERTY LINE.

UM. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE ONE THAT'S ABOUT HERE? YES. YES. CLOSER TO WHERE YOU LIVE.

RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY, WELL, JUST.

JUST YOUR PROPERTY LINE.

IS IT IN THE DRAINAGE CULVERT OR.

IT'S PROBABLY ROUGHLY WHERE THE REAR FENCES OF THOSE HOUSES ARE NOW.

YEAH. SO ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO GRAB OR CONNECT TO.

YEAH. SO THE CULVERT CULVERT IS ON THE SOUTH VIEW SIDE.

YEAH. OKAY. SO IF THE PROPERTY LINE IS ON YOUR SIDE OF THE CULVERT, SO THEN THE BUFFER IS TEN FEET, THEN THE GREEN SPACE.

IS THAT THE CONCEPT? YEAH. WE'LL CATCH EVERYTHING UNDERGROUND TOO AT THAT POINT AND BRING IT TO THE DETENTION POND.

I'M SURE THE DRAINAGE CULVERT IS IN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

SO IT IS.

WE. WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO INTO THAT EASEMENT TO CONNECT TO IT AND HAVE IT RUN UNDERGROUND.

TYPICALLY DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE LAST ONE WE DID IN SOUTH LAKE REQUIRED US TO GO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ANOTHER PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WAS AN EASEMENT TO CONNECT AND MAKE IT ESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO MAKE GET RID OF THAT CULVERT AND TIE IT EVERYTHING, GET EVERYTHING UNDERGROUND.

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SO OBVIOUSLY, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WE ALL MOVED THERE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

MINE WAS I GOT TO BE BACKED UP TO A BEAUTIFUL HORSE FARM.

GOT TO SEE BIG TREES.

AND TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S SPORADICALLY SOME GIANT TREES.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S A NICE TREE FENCE LINE.

SURE. AND WE ALL WANT TO RETAIN THAT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME TO KNOW WHICH TREES ARE GOING TO STAY.

I KNOW IT MIGHT BE A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER, BUT WE WANT THEM ALL TO STAY, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE CAN SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SEE ANYTHING ELSE.

YEAH, JUST KIND OF. WHAT'S THE PLAN? THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT'S WHY WE DID A TREE SURVEY.

WE DID LITERALLY MARK EVERY I MEAN, IT TOOK 3 OR 4 WEEKS TO DO THAT.

SO WITH THAT, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT TREES ARE STAYING.

AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG IN THIS PROCESS AND YOU WILL KNOW.

I'M SORRY, CAN WE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME? YEAH. I MEAN, WE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO PREPARE WHAT'S CALLED A TREE CONSERVATION PLAN THAT TALKS THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE A TREE SURVEY GOES IN AND DETERMINES EXACTLY WHICH TREES WE'RE GOING TO SAVE, WHICH TREES WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND SAVE BUT ARE MARGINAL AND THEN WHICH TREES NEED TO BE REMOVED? YEAH. SO WOULD YOU SAY STILL THE INTENT IS NOT TO TOUCH ANY TREES, WHAT, 14, 15FT BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE? YEAH, WELL, TEN FEET.

WE'RE SHOWING A TEN FOOT.

WE'RE SHOWING TEN FEET. OKAY.

I GOT THAT WRITTEN DOWN ACTUALLY.

WAS IT TEN? YEAH.

OKAY. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANOTHER DRAWING SHOWING EXACTLY WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS.

THE PROPERTY LINE IS.

I MEAN, THIS IS APPROXIMATE BECAUSE I OVERLAID OVER AN AREA, BUT WHERE THAT RED DASH LINE IS, IS BASICALLY WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS NOW.

OKAY. VERY GOOD.

THANKS, STEVE. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS BRIAN STEVENS.

I LIVE AT 1000 OMB LANE NEXT TO STEPHEN, ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE.

MY HOME IS THE HOME THERE ABOVE NUMBER FIVE.

YEAH, RIGHT HERE WITH THE POOL IN THE BACK.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. I HAVE A PROPERTY PLOT MAPPING THAT SHOWS THAT THE EASEMENT, THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IS PART OF MY PROPERTY.

I THINK IT'S FROM TALKING TO SOMEBODY ADMINISTRATOR OVER THE PAST AND IN OUR HOA, THAT WAS THE CASE FOR ALL OF THE THE NEIGHBORS THERE ON OSB THAT THEY OWN. THE THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT BEHIND THEM.

HAVE YOU TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION OF THIS? THIS SOME. YOU MEAN AN EASEMENT ALONG THE REAR OF YOUR PROPERTY? YEAH, IT STANDS UP LIKE SO.

EVERYBODY HAS A WOOD FENCE ON THE BACK OF THEIR PROPERTY.

IT EXTENDS OUT, PROBABLY.

TEN FEET FROM THE FENCE IS THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT IS ON.

THE MAP OF MY PROPERTY.

YES. AND IS THERE WAS THERE ANYTHING BUILT IN THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT, LIKE A SWALE OR AN UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE PIPE OR JUST A.

THERE'S JUST A CONCRETE PIPE JUST ABOUT THIS WIDE.

AND THE REST IS GRASS ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT CONCRETE.

WELL, WHAT THAT PROBABLY WAS INTENDED FOR WAS TO PROTECT THIS PROPERTY FROM DRAINAGE WHEN YOUR HOMES WERE BUILT, COMING OFF THAT TO CAPTURE THAT DRAINAGE AND TAKE IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO A DRAINAGE INLET.

YEAH. SO.

THE FIELD FENCE LINE IS A BARBED WIRE FENCE LINE.

BEHIND US.

THAT IS THIS PROPERTY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND.

UM, THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IS ABOUT 10 TO 12FT WIDE.

BETWEEN THAT BARBED WIRE FENCE LINE AND MY BACK FENCE.

SO SO THAT WOULD REMAIN.

WE WOULD WE WOULD BUILD OUR FENCE WALL ON OUR PROPERTY.

SO OUTSIDE OF THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

AND SO THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT WOULD STILL.

FUNCTION AS IT DOES NOW, UNLESS THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT PERHAPS WE COULD HELP FIX, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE FILLED IN OR ANYTHING.

YEAH. SO YOU BUILT YOUR FENCE.

YOU BUILT YOUR FENCE FURTHERING YOUR PROPERTY LINE, DIDN'T YOU? MY WOODEN FENCE IS ABOUT.

IT'S ABOUT FIVE FEET, I GUESS, FROM THE THE CONCRETE.

YEAH. DRAINAGE. SO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TECHNICALLY PROPERTY BEHIND THAT FENCE THAT YOU'RE NOT UTILIZING AS A HOMEOWNER, I'M SAYING.

YEAH. SO YOU'RE OTHER SIDE OF THAT CONCRETE THAT THAT IS ALSO MINE AS WELL.

YEAH. SO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO EVERY HOUSE WILL BE TALKED ABOUT, LOOKED AT.

AND SO OUR STONE WALL WOULD GO WITH OUR PROPERTY LINE, WHICH WOULD BE IN FRONT OF WHERE THE BARBED WIRE FENCE, I'M ASSUMING WOULD BE.

AND IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU IF YOU WANTED TO REMOVE YOUR FENCE, WHICH I DO HAPPILY FOR YOU, WHERE YOU CAN EXTEND YOUR BACKYARD, YOU JUST TO SEE THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT OR WE JUST KIND OF DO WHAT YOU WANT TO KEEP IT. THE FENCE THERE AS IS FOR ESTHETICALLY.

YEAH. NOT VIEWED THERE WOULD BE NO PLAN TO MOVE OUR FENCE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY AFFECTED BY THE WATER DRAINAGE AS IT IS EVEN WITH THE FLU, IT'S NOT REALLY HELPING A WHOLE LOT.

YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

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IT IS. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS PROPERTY IS DRAINING AS A WHOLE HOLISTICALLY.

OUR ENGINEERS LOOKING AT IT EVERY SINGLE EVERYTHING COMING DOWN ON OUR PROPERTY.

SO WE WILL TAKE THAT ACCOUNT AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL GET WITH YOU PERSONALLY AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

SO WE'D LOVE TO VISIT YOUR HOUSE, SHOW US, TALK TO THE ENGINEER DIRECTLY AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION.

YEAH, THIS IS NOT A I MEAN, WE ARE HERE FOR THE ENTIRE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY TRULY ARE AFFECTED BY THE WALL AND BY THE NEIGHBORING OF THIS PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY. YEAH. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER RESIDENTS THAT WISH TO SPEAK? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

HI, I'M SUSIE NORMAN.

I JUST HAVE A DESIGN QUESTION FOR YOU.

AND I KNOW YOU WANT TO MAXIMIZE YOUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

I GET THAT.

BUT WHAT IF HOUSE 17 DISAPPEARED? AND THAT WAS GRASS OR WHATEVER, AND HOUSE 28 GLOMMED ONTO 27 SO THAT YOUR PATHWAY GOES UP AGAINST THE WALL ON THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER.

WITH THAT RESOLVE, SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL OF 17 AND ADD JUST A LITTLE MORE GREEN SPACE TO THIS. WELL, LET ME JUST POINT OUT THAT IF THESE ARE SF 28 LOTS, I ASSUME THEY ARE ZONED.

THE SIDE SETBACKS ARE 15FT ON THE EXISTING HOME.

OKAY. THAT'S THE STANDARD SIDE SETBACK.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TEN FEET OF GREEN SPACE PLUS A FIVE FOOT SETBACK.

SO ALTHOUGH 17 LOT 17TH MAY LOOK LIKE IT'S CLOSE TO THAT HOUSE, IT'S ACTUALLY THE ACTUAL HOUSE IS GOING TO BE JUST AS FAR AWAY AS IF IT WERE A SIMILAR LOT TO THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY THERE OR THEIR NEIGHBOR ON THE WEST SIDE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE THAT THAT HOUSE WILL BE SET BACK JUST AS FAR AS IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS A SIMILAR SIZED LOT, EXCEPT WE ALL KNOW THAT THE VILLAS IN TOWN ARE LONG AND SKINNY.

SO WHOEVER IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 17 IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A LONG, SKINNY HOUSE AS OPPOSED TO THE HOUSE.

SO THERE'LL BE SOME ARTICULATION TOO, IN A LOT.

AND THAT'S ONE THING I ENJOY WHAT I DO AS THE CUSTOM SIDE IS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST FLAT, TALL, SKINNY WALL AND YOU CAN'T TELL IF IT'S SKINNY OR NOT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME SOME MOVEMENT INTO THE PROPERTY AND HAVE SOME ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT REALLY HIGHLIGHT AND NOT JUST HAVE A STUCCO WALL OR WHATEVER IT IS AT THE TIME.

SO IF YOU'RE STANDING AS A NEIGHBOR, THE GOAL IS TO MAKE IT LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOUR OTHER NEIGHBOR WOULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU LIVED IN THAT HOUSE, MINUS, MAYBE COVERED PATIO THAT'S ON THE BACKSIDE BECAUSE THEIR BACKYARDS ARE GOING TO BE DEPENDING ON THE HOUSE IS DRAWN, IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OR OR IT'S GOING TO BE MORE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO LET ME ASK IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

WHY DO YOU HAVE THE SKINNY ROAD BETWEEN 17 AND 16 AND 27 AND 28? THAT'S THAT'S HOW YOU GET FROM THE GARAGE.

IT'S AN ALLEY.

OKAY. THIS IS AN ALLEY HERE IN BACK.

I'M SORRY YOU CAN'T SEE MY FINGER.

THIS IS AN ALLEY IN BACK AND WE HAVE TO GET OUT TO THE MAIN STREET.

WHEN SOMEONE IN LOT TEN DRIVES OUT OF THEIR GARAGE DOWN THEIR DRIVEWAY, TURNS LEFT ON THE ALLEY TO COME OUT HERE.

THIS IS HOW THEY GET OUT TO THE MAIN STREET.

THIS IS THE MAIN STREET HERE.

WITH HER. I GET THAT PART.

BUT LET'S SAY YOU'RE IN HOUSE 26.

IF 28 WAS GLOMMED ONTO 27.

YOU CAN HAVE SKINNY LITTLE ROAD ALONG THE FENCE LINE INSTEAD.

RIGHT WE COULD.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, IS WHY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS NICE HERE, BUT IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF LAYING OUT ALL YOUR HOUSES IF YOU.

YOU KNOW, SQUEEZE THE HOUSES CLOSE.

WE CAN MOVE THIS ALLEYWAY TO HERE AND WE CAN MOVE THIS ALLEY TO HERE.

WE JUST THINK IT WORKS BETTER THAN THIS.

THIS IS THE WAY THEY'RE NORMALLY.

NORMALLY DONE.

BUT DEFINITELY I WILL. I WILL.

JUST OFFERING IT UP. I WILL PUT IT TOGETHER AND LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT.

MAYBE. OH MY GOSH, THAT'S WAY BETTER.

SO, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

JUST A THOUGHT. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WISH TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

MIKE WESSON AT 809 CROSS LANE.

WHERE IS THE STONEWALL GOING TO BE BUILT AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY LINE? RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY, ON OUR PROPERTY LINE OR INTO YOUR PROPERTY.

I THINK THE GOAL WAS TO PUT IT ON OUR PROPERTY ENTIRELY IN OUR PROPERTY, FLUSH WITH THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT ENTIRELY IN OUR PROPERTY.

OKAY. BECAUSE YOU I THINK TRAVIS KNOWS THIS, THAT THAT BRICK WALL FOR SOME REASON WAS BUILT LIKE A FOOT AND A HALF INTO OUR PROPERTY.

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SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A CORNER IS THE CORNER OF OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT GOING TO ABUT UP TO THAT THAT BRICK COLUMN IN OUR BACKYARD OR HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH A MOTION? I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABSORBING A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR CORNER OF YOUR PROPERTY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I'M JUST WONDERING HOW IT'S GOING TO ATTACH TO THE BRICK WALL AND OUR NEIGHBORS BEHIND US.

OH, ON THAT CORNER. YEAH.

YEAH, ON THAT CORNER.

AND HOW THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A GAP THERE.

WELL. I CAN SHOW YOU THE DETAIL.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A GAP.

WE'LL DEFINITELY CONNECT IT.

THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK OUT.

WE'LL GET DOWN THERE. SO WE HAD A SURVEY DONE RECENTLY, AND THAT BRICK WALL FOR SOME REASON IS WILDLY INSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE NICE TO GET BACK OUT A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

WE'LL WE'LL IT WILL BE RIGHT.

AND WE CAN VERIFY BEFORE WE DO ANY CONSTRUCTION OBVIOUSLY.

BUT IT IS WE WILL CONNECT THE CORNER THERE WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO THE PROPERTY LINE ON OUR SIDE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I PROMISE YOU THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

HAPPY. VOLLMER AND I LIVE ON 711 MORTON LANE.

I KNOW I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE 23 YEARS.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SOME OF THE DR.

MENDEZ PROPOSALS.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN YOU ACCESS OR HE HAS NOT GIVEN YOU ACCESS TO 1709.

SO MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU HAVE THIS TRAFFIC STUDY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY TO 114 FROM OFF OF NORTH CARROLL.

I KNOW. I'M. JUMPING AROUND HERE, BUT NORTH CARROLL TO 1709, IF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS, OH, GEE, YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY AWFUL BECAUSE I'D BE THE PERFECT CANDIDATE FOR THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I'M IN MY 70S, I'M GETTING TIRED OF YARD WORK.

AND BUT ALTHOUGH I CAN'T IMAGINE PAYING MORE MONEY FOR LESS HOUSE, BUT STILL, I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE TO ONLY HAVE AN IN AND OUT ON NORTH CARROLL.

THAT WOULD BE REALLY A NEGATIVE FOR ME.

SO WOULD THAT TRAFFIC STUDY DETERMINE IF THEY SAY, YEAH, YOU NEED MORE ACCESS? COULD THAT SAY, YES? DR. MENDEZ YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO 79.

PART OF IT IS WHAT THE USE IS.

IF WE WERE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THIS ALL AS AN OFFICE.

OH, FURTHER BACK HERE THEN, CONNECTING TO THIS MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE.

BUT SINCE IT'S RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, TAKING RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC THROUGH A PARKING LOT OF THE OFFICE, YOU KNOW THOSE OFFICES.

IN PAST PROPOSALS, DR.

MENDEZ KNEW THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF THAT SIGNAL LIGHT BEING ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY BEHIND.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE LAND USE PLAN TALKS ABOUT WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT THAT CONNECTION THERE.

IT'S ASSUMING THAT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT MORE OFFICES.

SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

WOULDN'T NECESSARILY FORCE HIM TO GIVE YOU ACCESS TO 1709 WOULDN'T NECESSARILY.

YEAH, I SAY IT'S GOING TO GIVE US MORE POWER TO THE PEDAL MAYBE TO GET THAT THAT IT'S GOING TO GIVE US MORE DATA ON THE ON CAROL MAINLY THE SOUTHERN PORTION.

AND AGAIN, TRYING TO TIE IN TO WHAT SOUTH LAKE JUST RECENTLY HAS DONE ON THE NORTH SIDE SO WE CAN TALK THE SAME LANGUAGE AND IT'S THE SAME STUDY.

WE'RE NOT GETTING OUR GUYS.

JUST LIKE IN COURT, MY GUY SAYS THIS, YOUR GUY SAYS THIS.

WE REALLY WANT TO KEEP THAT COHESIVE AND MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER THEY HIRED, WE'RE HIRING.

AND ON THAT SIDE, TOO.

AND WHAT YOU SEE TODAY IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING, MEANING THE MEDIAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

SO THERE IS OPPORTUNITY THAT COULD BE BETTER WHERE WHEN YOU'RE GOING NORTHBOUND ON CAROL, TO TURN INTO OUR COMMERCIAL THAT YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR DEDICATED TURN LEFT LANE.

SO YOU'RE NOT HOLDING UP TRAFFIC ON CAROL.

OKAY. AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF CAROL IN THE OLD PLAN, AGAIN, HAS NOT BEEN DONE, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO ADVOCATE THAT THEY WERE YOU KNOW, YOU GO RIGHT ON 1709 THAT THEY WOULD EXPAND THE RIGHT TURN LANE ALL THE WAY PAST THE BANK AND THAT WOULD BE ALL THE WAY PAST.

AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY PROPOSED IN THE OTHER TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE SO MUCH PEOPLE BACKING UP AND GIVE PEOPLE MORE, MORE OPPORTUNITY, GET IN THE RIGHT LANE AND NOT BE IN THAT TWO LANE. I CAN TELL YOU I DO NOT USE ONLY LANE TO GET TO 114 AS YOU WOULD NOW.

WELL, NO, BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I GET I TAKE SOUTHWEST TO SEVEN OR EXCUSE ME TO NORTH CAROL AND I'VE ALWAYS WANTED I'VE PROBABLY SAID THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES AT DIFFERENT MEETINGS THERE WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY WOULD HAVE PUT A SIGNAL LIGHT AT SOUTHCREST.

I THINK IT'S SOUTHCREST LANE AND DIVISION.

AND THE THING WAS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT FEDERAL BENEFITS TOWN SQUARE BECAUSE IT GETS ALL THE TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF THE PARKING LOTS, BUT IT DOES NOTHING FOR THE THREE DEVELOPMENTS FOR.

YES, SO I UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN WHEN THEY PUT THE MEDIAN IN ON 1709, WE COULDN'T HAVE A SIGNAL LIGHT TO GET IN AND OUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.

SO THERE'S THREE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THAT.

SO THEY ARE STUDY COULD INCLUDE ALL THE WAY TO 114 THAT MIGHT HAVE BENEFIT ALL OF US.

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I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. SO YOU TURN THERE, I LOSE MY OPPORTUNITY.

YOU GOT TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT ROUND. YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING, OR I GET MORE AGGRESSIVE AND WHOEVER WINS, WINS.

BUT I WORRY ABOUT YOUNG KIDS LEARNING TO DRIVE, TOO, SO.

YEAH. NO, I'M WITH YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU.

TRAFFIC STUDY COULD ENCOMPASS A LARGER AREA THAN JUST RIGHT HERE.

YES, MA'AM. ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU. SORRY. THANK YOU.

I WILL MOVE ON TO THE COMMENTS CARDS.

MISS HELEN PEARSON.

TRAFFIC CAUSED BY TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING WHEN OTHER BUILDING ON CAROL BY 114 WAS DENIED DUE TO TRAFFIC.

HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT? 14. CARROLL.

AND YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION FOR ME.

I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SURE.

YES, MA'AM. YEP.

PLEASE, PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE LIKE I DO.

WHY DO THEY NOT GIVE ACCESS ON THE SIDE OF LAKEWOOD? THEY DENIED IT. HERE WE HAVE THE ONLY WAY TO GET.

IT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

I WOULD SAY THAT THE THE SIMILAR BUILDINGS AROUND THAT LASER AND THE GARDEN TYPE OF COMMERCIAL IS MORE PREVALENT ON THAT SIDE.

AND AS YOU GET FURTHER DOWN SOUTH, THE THE THIS IS IN A FORM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT RELATABLE TO TOWN SQUARE, IT'S NOT PART OF TOWN SQUARE.

THE COHESIVENESS AND TALKING TO IS THE GOAL OF TOWN SQUARE WHERE THE SHOPPING THE THE RESTAURANT WHICH I'M IN FAVOR OF AND THE OFFICE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF TOWN SQUARE LOOKING OVER TOWN SQUARE IS JUST SOMETHING THAT IS ATTRACTIVE.

IT LOOKS GOOD. AND IT'S HOPEFULLY THE ARCHITECTURE WILL HAVE A LOOK TO IT THAT CAN BE RECOGNIZED BY ANYBODY IF THEY SEE PICTURES OF SOUTH LAKE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN'T PROBABLY IT PROBABLY BE A GREAT QUESTION FOR MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS BUT NOT THIS? BUT I AM FOLLOWING AT LEAST.

I MEAN, WE WERE EVEN LOOKING AT NOT THAT I'D DO IT, BUT THEY WERE ASKING US TO, YOU KNOW, AS A THIRD FLOOR.

BUT WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO FIGHT THAT, THAT THERE ARE SO MANY RULES ON THIRD FLOORS AND I DON'T WANT TO GET HIGHER THAN I NEED TO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T DO WELL FOR THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL. SO WE'RE THINGS WE'RE PULLING BACK ON, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S BEEN LOOKED AT OR ASKED TO LOOK AT AS A THIRD FLOOR.

I WOULD SAY I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT ANSWER.

AND I CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH A MORE PROFESSIONAL ANSWER THAN WHAT I JUST MUMBLED ABOUT.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE TWO COMMENT CARDS WITH NO COMMENTS.

MR. MIKE PEARSON AND MS..

CAROLYN MORRIS.

AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN SPIN.

OKAY. SORRY.

CLOSING COMMENT.

YES, WE HAVE MANY COMMENT FORMS. WE HAVE ABOUT OVER 30.

SO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I DID COPY ALL OF THESE AND GIVE THEM TO THE DEVELOPER SO THEY DO HAVE A COPY OF ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

THOSE WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE MEETING REPORTS.

HOWEVER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE YOURS, READ TONIGHT, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PULL IT OUT.

AND THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE COPIES OF THESE ALREADY THOUGH.

WELL THE DEVELOPERS CAN GET WITH YOU POST-MEETING AFTER THEY READ YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AND THEY CAN REACH OUT TO YOU.

THEY HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH THEM AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO MAKE THIS AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE.

AND ONE OTHER THING I KNOW FOR JESSICA'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THIS.

ANYBODY ON OMB OR IN THE SOUTH VIEW NEIGHBORHOODS, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HELP, PUT TOGETHER WITH ME ON A ON A ZOOM, WE CAN DO PERIODIC UPDATES, ESPECIALLY IF I DO ANY IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES. WE WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE TO BE COMMUNICATIVE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT.

THIS IS NOT TRYING TO SWEEP ANYTHING AND HIDE ANYTHING.

I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT AND A FAIR NEIGHBOR AS MUCH AS WE CAN, SO JUST KNOW THAT.

SO I'M OPEN TO ANYTHING YOU GUYS WANT TO DO FROM A COMMUNICATION STANDARD.

SO THANK YOU.

AND I'M HERE, SO I'LL SAY I'M NOT LEAVING.

SO LET ME COME UP HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY PERSONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR PARTICIPATION IN SPIN.

REMEMBER, SPIN REPRESENTS THE FIRST STEPS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

A SPIN MEETING REPORT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE AFTER THE MEETINGS TAKE PLACE.

WE WILL INCLUDE THE SUBMITTED SPIN QUESTION AND OR COMMENT FORMS IN THE MEETING REPORTS.

THESE REPORTS ARE GENERAL OBSERVATIONS OF THE FORUM.

THEY ARE NOT VERBATIM.

INTERESTED PARTIES ARE ENCOURAGED TO FOLLOW THE CASE THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

MEETINGS ARE RECORDED AND WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE APPROXIMATELY 24 HOURS AFTER THE MEETING TAKES PLACE.

THIS CONCLUDES TONIGHT'S SPIN MEETING.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.