[1. Call to order]
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WE'RE GOING TO START, AS WE ALWAYS START WITH AN INVOCATION FROM OUR PASTOR AND CHAPLAIN, PASTOR CLAY REED, AND THEN WE WILL JUMP RIGHT INTO THE INVOCATION OR FROM THE INVOCATION INTO THE PLEDGE. SO YOU GUYS, PLEASE RISE FOR ALL OF THAT.
DEAR LORD, THANK YOU FOR THIS EVENING.
WE PRAY FOR TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY FOR OFFICER RODERICK PAGE.
WE PRAY, JESUS THAT YOU WOULD HEAL HIM AND HELP HIM AND BE WITH HIM.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU GIVE US FAMILY HELP AND GRACE AND PEACE.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, AND AS WE MOVE TOWARD SEPTEMBER 11TH, WE REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WORK TO KEEP US SAFE AND WORK TO HELP US WHEN WE'RE STRUGGLING, AND SO WE PRAY BLESSING OVER OUR FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS, AND AS THEY WORK TONIGHT AND EVERY NIGHT THIS WEEK AND EVERY DAY, WE PRAY BLESSING AND PROTECTION AND PEACE ON ALL OF THEM.
WE GIVE THANKS FOR JESUS AND IT'S IN HIS NAME.
JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
THANK YOU. PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS.
SO TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION AGENDA IS RELATIVELY SHORT.
WE JUST HAVE ONE ITEM, BUT IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM.
[3. National Preparedness Month]
IT IS OUR ANNUAL PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH, WHICH I BELIEVE.AMANDA, IS SEPTEMBER, CORRECT? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU GUYS, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER, AMANDA MENESES.
TAKE IT AWAY. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND MAYOR, TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH, WHICH IS EVERY SEPTEMBER, RIGHT ON THE DOT.
OUR THEME THIS YEAR IS PREPAREDNESS IS A GAME IN WHICH RESILIENCY IS THE GOAL.
SO WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WHY PREPAREDNESS IS IMPORTANT.
EVERY DAY WE GET UP, WE GO THROUGH OUR DAILY ROUTINES, WE MAKE OUR COFFEE, WE TAKE OUR KIDS TO SCHOOL, WE GO TO WORK, AND WE JUST GO THROUGHOUT OUR NORMAL DAY, BUT WHEN THERE'S A DISRUPTION, LIKE A LARGE SCALE EMERGENCY, IT'S WHEN CHAOS REALLY STARTS TO ENSUE, AND THE BIGGEST PART OF THAT IS HAVING THESE PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITIES DONE IN ADVANCE.
THEN IT KIND OF TAKES THE CHAOS OUT OF THAT SITUATION.
WE ALL REMEMBER Y2K, EVEN THOUGH THAT SOUNDS LIKE FOREVER AGO, WE HAVE THE SEPTEMBER 11TH ATTACKS, HURRICANE KATRINA TORNADO, SUPER OUTBREAK, THE BOSTON MARATHON BOMBINGS, THE LAS VEGAS SHOOTING, ALL OF THESE THINGS REALLY RESONATE WITH PEOPLE AND HOW THE COMMUNITY RESPONDS TO THESE TYPE OF EVENTS, HOW GOVERNMENT, WHETHER IT BE FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL, HOW WE RESPOND TO THESE TYPE OF EVENTS AND EVEN IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE'VE HAD THE EL PASO WALMART SHOOTING, THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, WINTER STORM URI AND FAILURE OF THE TEXAS POWER GRID, UVALDE AND THE ROBB ELEMENTARY SHOOTING AND THE TEXAS HAILSTORM THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO IN TEXAS, WE LIKE TO GO BIG.
WE ARE THE SECOND LARGEST STATE IN THE NATION, ONLY BEING BEAT BY ALASKA.
WE ARE, HOWEVER, RANKED THE HIGHEST IN THE NATION FOR NATURAL DISASTERS.
FROM 1980 TO 2023, WE'VE SPENT OVER 300 BILLION IN NATURAL DISASTERS.
THAT DOESN'T EVEN COUNT MANMADE DISASTERS.
SO WE LIKE TO DO IT BIG WHEN WE'RE HERE IN TEXAS.
SO WITH THAT, WHAT DOES SOUTHLAKE DO TO PREPARE? WE KNOW THAT WE'RE ALREADY A TARGET, SO THE CITY WORKS REALLY HARD TO KIND OF MITIGATE THOSE THINGS.
WE HAVE EIGHT FACILITY EMERGENCY ACTION PLANS.
WE HAVE 11 DEPARTMENTS WITH CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS PLANS.
WE HAVE A STATE APPROVED EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN, AND THEN WE HAVE SIX HAZARD SPECIFIC ANNEXES THAT COVER THINGS THAT WE DO ALL THE TIME, WHICH IS WINTER WEATHER. WE NOW HAVE A PANDEMIC PLAN AND ALSO HEAT RELATED HAZARDS.
SO WE CAN HAVE ALL THESE PLANS IN PLACE, BUT HOW DO WE MEASURE HOW WE'RE DOING?
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HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THESE PLANS ARE WORKING? IF WE LOOK BACK AT THE WINTER STORM OF 2022, THE YEAR AFTER WINTER STORM URI.PUBLIC WORKS, THEY PUT DOWN 40 TONS OF SAND THAT'S OVER THREE MILES.
NOT ONLY DID THEY PUT IT DOWN, THEY PICKED IT BACK UP.
WE NOW HAVE A TRAINED TEAM OF 27 STAFF THAT DO SPECIFICALLY CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THESE TYPE OF EVENTS, AND FOR THE EOC, WE WERE ACTIVATED CITYWIDE, AND I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS HOW WE COORDINATED COMMUNICATION OVER A FIVE DAY PERIOD.
DPS SOCIAL MEDIA REACHED 1.1 MILLION PEOPLE WITH 35,000 REACTIONS.
4000 COMMENTS AND 3800 SHARES.
THE CITY SOCIAL MEDIA REACHED ANOTHER 13,500.
OUR PROTECT SOUTHLAKE PAGE HAD 3000 VIEWS AND WE SENT SIX ALERTS SOUTHLAKE NOTIFICATIONS.
SO WE DON'T JUST PREPARE FOR THE CITY, WE GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WE DO LOTS OF EVENTS.
EVEN IN THIS YEAR ALONE, WE'RE EIGHT MONTHS IN NOW.
WITH BRAD UPMORE, I'VE CREATED THREE PREPAREDNESS VIDEOS AND THOSE HAVE HAD ABOUT 10,000 VIEWS AND WE'VE ACTUALLY RECEIVED THREE AWARDS FOR THOSE IN 2022 THE TATOA.
WE GOT A FIRST PLACE AWARD ALSO IN 2022, THE THREE CMA SILVER CIRCLE AWARD, AND IN 2023, THE [INAUDIBLE] AWARD FOR THE BEST UNPLANNED CAMPAIGN FOR WINTER WEATHER.
AMANDA, JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THOSE VIDEOS.
IN HOW MANY OF THEM WERE YOU LIP SYNCHING CATCHY SONGS? TOO MANY OF THOSE, TOO MANY.
I HAVE TO SWALLOW MY PRIDE AND JUST GO FOR IT.
SO WITH OUR THEME THIS YEAR, IT'S ALL ABOUT GAMES.
SO WE KIND OF LAID OUT A GAME PLAN FOR US IN WEEK ONE.
IT'S KNOW YOUR PREPAREDNESS SUPERPOWERS.
SO WE ARE DOING A POKEMON GO CHALLENGE THROUGHOUT TOWN SQUARE, WHICH STARTS TOMORROW.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT ON OUR PAGE IN WEEK TWO.
WE'RE GOING TO GO PLAY PREPAREDNESS BINGO AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND AT WATERMERE.
SO THAT OUGHT TO BE A GOOD TIME.
WEEK THREE, IT'S CHILD'S PLAY.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO AND HELP KIDS FIGURE OUT THEIR ESCAPE ROUTES FROM THEIR HOUSE OR WAYS THAT THEY NEED TO GET OUT OF CERTAIN LOCATIONS AND HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR FAMILY. SO BRINGING IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IS MY FAVORITE PART OF THIS MONTH.
SO THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO SAY FROM WORKING WITH AMANDA AND FROM A FESTIVAL STANDPOINT, YOU REALLY FROM THE OUTSIDE, FROM NOT SITTING UP HERE, YOU COME TO UNDERSTAND JUST HOW PREPARED THEY ARE IN THE CASE OF ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY, AND IT'S INCREDIBLE WHAT YOU ALL DO IN THAT REALM, AND THEN HAVING BEEN ON COUNCIL NOW AND WE SEE WHAT YOU DO IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION INTERNALLY AND YOU LET US KNOW HOW YOU'RE PREPARED FOR EACH OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE POTENTIAL.
I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU.
I MEAN, WHAT YOU GUYS DO IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE TRAINING THAT YOU GUYS DO, YOU'D RATHER HAVE IT NOT NEEDED THAN NEED IT AND NOT HAVE IT AND CERTAINLY WHEN THE OCCASION CALLS FOR IT, Y'ALL ARE ALWAYS THERE, AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I LOVE IS THE FACT THAT WE ACTUALLY TRAIN IN SOUTHLAKE TO SEND OUR PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF SOUTHLAKE TO HELP WITH OTHER EMERGENCIES AND NATURAL DISASTERS.
SUBJECT OF AN UPCOMING MINUTE WITH THE MAYOR'S LIEUTENANT, FRANK MOLINETS, WHO DESCRIBED WHAT HE DOES WITH HIS AND SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES, SOME OTHER OF YOUR COLLEAGUES, AND IT'S AMAZING HOW RESOURCEFUL AND HOW MUCH WORK THAT YOU GUYS PUT INTO TRAINING TO ALSO RESPOND TO HURRICANES OR TORNADOES OR FLOODS WHEREVER, WHEREVER YOU'RE NEEDED.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANKS, AMANDA.
[4. Discuss all items on tonight's agenda. No actions will be taken and each item will be considered during the Regular Session.]
APPRECIATE IT. OKAY.EXCUSE ME. WE HAVE ITEM 4A APPROVE MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 15TH, 2023 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
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ITEM 4C RESOLUTION 23-019 APPROVING A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT BETWEEN THE ATMOS CITIES STEERING COMMITTEE AND ATMOS ENERGY CORP.DIRECTOR COHAN, IS THAT YOU? NO. THAT'S SHARON JACKSON.
I'M SORRY. DID YOU WANT NICK? OKAY, LET ME GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE AGENDA.
THEN I'LL PROBABLY CALL YOU UP, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ATMOS HERE AS WELL.
ITEM FOUR E RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-017 APPROVING THE ADOPTION OF A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT POLICY.
ITEM FOUR F RESOLUTION NUMBER 08-054B APPROVING THE REVISED COMMUNITY EVENT PARTICIPATION POLICY.
COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? I KNOW YOU WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND DANIEL CORTEZ AND HIS STAFF.
DANIEL AND I DID WORK REALLY HARD ON THIS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
EXCELLENT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND MR. CORTEZ AS WELL. ITEM FOUR G APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH LESLIE JONES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $70,000 FOR PERSONAL TRAINING SERVICES AT CHAMPIONS CLUB.
ITEM FOUR H CONSIDER ZA23-0047 PLAT REVISION FOR LOT 20RTM HOOD NUMBER 706 ADDITION.
THE ABSENCE OF COMMISSIONER GINA PHALEN FROM THE COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 17TH, 2023.
MOVING INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.
SPEAKING OF CONSENT, ITEM EIGHT A, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE TABLE THAT INDEFINITELY.
THAT'S RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-020 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, CASTING A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE IN CHIEF APPRAISER OF THE TARRANT APPRAISAL DISTRICT. SO I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.
I FELT IT WAS NECESSARY TO GO ON THE RECORD AS A CITY AND HOW DISAPPOINTED WE HAVE BEEN IN THE EXECUTION OF A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT THE TARRANT APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS BEEN DOING, INCLUDING, WELL, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF STUFF, BUT SOME OF THE MORE NOTABLE ONES WERE ONE OF THE DIRECTORS WHO'S NO LONGER WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY NEEDED TO DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TRUTH AND THE PEOPLE.
ANOTHER ONE WAS THE ABYSMAL ROLLOUT OF THE NEW ONLINE PROTEST SYSTEM.
SO BUT SINCE GOING ON THE AGENDA WITH THIS ITEM AND NOW THE CHIEF APPRAISER HAS RESIGNED.
SO THAT HAS RENDERED THIS ITEM MOOT, AND I'M VERY HOPEFUL THAT THE BOARD OF THE TARRANT APPRAISAL DISTRICT WILL FIND LEADERSHIP THAT CAN ASSIST THEM IN EXECUTING THEIR MISSION FOR THE GOOD OF ALL THE TAXPAYERS IN TARRANT COUNTY AND THEN COUNCIL, I BELIEVE WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE WANTED TO PUT ON CONSENT? YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND ADDING NINE A TO CONSENT, OTHERWISE REFERRED TO AS S23-0014 SIGN VARIANCES FOR MPP LEGAL LOCATED AT 1203 SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, SUITE 250 SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED AUGUST 29TH, 2023.
OH, WAIT. I HAVE TO NOTE THESE.
DO I NEED TO NOTE THESE THINGS HERE? YOU'LL DO IT LATER. PERFECT.
ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S JUMP BACK TO FOUR C THAT ATMOS SETTLEMENT.
IF YOU WANT TO COME ON DOWN AND JUST GIVE US A 30,000 FOOT VIEW OF WHAT ALL IS GOING ON.
JUST REAL QUICK, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AN ANNUAL.
SORRY. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? SORRY. NICK CORNELIUS, MANAGEMENT ASSISTANT FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
PERFECT. THIS IS A ROUTINE PROCESS DONE, I BELIEVE, EVERY YEAR OR SO.
THAT RATE REVIEW MECHANISM FILING IS A PROCESS BETWEEN THE ATMOS CITIES AND ATMOS, WHEREBY ATMOS CAN EVERY YEAR CLAIM INCREASED COSTS TO COVER THE SERVICE DELIVERY EACH YEAR.
WHAT WE DID OR WHAT THE ATMOS CITY STEERING COMMITTEE DID WAS WORK TO REDUCE THAT INITIAL REQUEST.
LET ME GET MY NUMBER HERE OF 165.9 MILLION.
THEY BROUGHT THAT DOWN, 23.9 MILLION DOWN TO 142 MILLION.
THIS DOES MEAN THAT THERE IS AN INCREASED COST PASSED ON TO THE CONSUMER BY THIS FEE, BUT , YOU KNOW, THE STAFF WORKED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AS LOW AS POSSIBLE.
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THE ALTERNATIVE TO THIS WOULD BE TO GO AND GO TO THE RAILROAD COMMISSION, BUT THAT WOULD RESULT IN THE INITIAL REQUEST, THE ENTIRE REQUEST MADE BY ATMOS TO BE APPROVED, SO IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN A LOWER PRICE FOR THE CONSUMERS, BUT YEAH, OVERALL, JUST A PRETTY ADMINISTRATIVE DEAL.ANY QUESTIONS FOR NICK? CAN THE GENTLEMAN FROM ATMOS COME ON DOWN? SINCE WE HAVE YOU HERE, I'VE GOT.
YOU GUYS SPENT A YEAR, MAYBE A YEAR AND A HALF UPSIZING SOME OF THE LINES SPECIFICALLY AT I THINK IT WAS AT A LIFT STATION AT KIMBLE AND 1709, AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS TO TRY TO GET MORE CAPACITY TO THE NORTH SIDE, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN AT ATMOS IF YOU WERE THERE DURING WINTER STORM URI.
YEAH, I WAS THERE. OKAY. YEAH, IT WAS A DUMPSTER FIRE UP ON OUR NORTH SIDE AND PART OF THAT LEGACY INFRASTRUCTURE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE POINT OF THE PROJECT WAS TO TRY TO GET MORE CAPACITY SO THAT THIS HAPPENS AGAIN.
SO CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT? HOW IS THAT GOING? YEAH SO I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THAT PROJECT, AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DID THERE, WHICH BY THE WAY, I'M SORRY, I'M DAVID DRAPER WITH ATMOS ENERGY.
I'M THE LOCAL SUPERVISOR HERE FOR THE ALL THE OPERATIONS IN THIS AREA, AND SO THAT LEGACY SYSTEM THAT WAS THERE WAS FULL OF THE MAINS WERE TWO, THREE AND FOUR INCH PIPING, AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE GROWTH IN THIS AREA AND THEN THAT BEING A ONE WAY FEED OUT TOWARDS THE LAKE, WE HAD AN ISSUE ONCE MORE HOMES WERE BUILT, THE BIGGER HOMES WERE BUILT GETTING ENOUGH VOLUME TO THOSE HOMES TO FEED THOSE, ESPECIALLY WHEN EVERYBODY HAD ALL THE APPLIANCES RUNNING IN THE COLDER WEATHERS, AND SO WE REPLACED THAT WHOLE MAIN SYSTEM DOWN.
KIMBLE WITH AN EIGHT INCH PIPING SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHY THAT MADE THAT REGULATOR STATION THERE AT 1709 AND KIMBLE MUCH BIGGER SO THAT A MUCH MORE VOLUME CAN PASS THROUGH THERE, AND AFTER WE DID THAT, WE DID IN THIS PAST COLD SEASON, WE DID SEE QUITE AN IMPROVEMENT IN THAT AREA.
YEAH, SO WE MEASURE THAT BY THE NUMBER OF WHAT WE CALL A NO GAS CALL.
SO A CUSTOMER CALLS IN AND SAYS, HEY, MY APPLIANCES AREN'T WORKING, AND SO WE TRACK THAT AND I KNOW THERE WAS AN ISSUE IN THE ARLINGTON AREA, I BELIEVE THIS YEAR THERE WAS SOME ISSUES KIND OF ALL OVER THE STATE DURING THAT WINTER STORM, AND SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A FORTIFICATION PROJECT WHERE WE'RE BASICALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, UPSIZING OUR SYSTEM TO ALLOW MORE VOLUME TO GET TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, AND SO YOU HAD A DECREASE IN THE NO GAS CALLS FROM US.
SO IT WAS QUITE AN IMPROVEMENT THIS YEAR.
GOOD. GOOD. WE HOPE TO SEE IT CONTINUE.
YEAH. YEAH. ANY OTHER PROJECTS FOR SOUTHLAKE COMING UP? I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY IN SOUTHLAKE.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. DRAPER. I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING.
THANK YOU. THANKS, NICK. COUNCIL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
WELL, THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS COMING AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO WE'LL START PROBABLY 7 P.M..
YES. YES. ON ALL ALL ITEMS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
OKAY. THAT DOES IT FOR OUR WORK SESSION.
SECTION 551.072 TO DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL PROPERTY MATTERS AND SECTION 551.087 TO DELIBERATE REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, AND WE WILL BE BACK NO EARLIER THAN SEVEN.
ALL RIGHT. IT'S 6:48 AND WE WILL RECONVENE THIS REGULAR SESSION.
[1. Call to order]
IS THERE ANY ACTION NEEDED OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO MAYOR AND COUNCIL.THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY.
MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE, A MAYOR'S REPORT.
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SO WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON ONE OF THE ITEMS. SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT, AND IF ANYBODY COME IS WISHING TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC FORUM FOUR F.[5. Public Forum]
SO YOU SUBMITTED A CARD FOR FOUR F? DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON FOUR F? OKAY. COME ON DOWN. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, AS USUAL.NO, MA'AM. WE'LL JUST TAKE COMMENTS.
OKAY NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOING FROM A BUDGET.
WELL, ONE, I WAS WONDERING WHO THE TWO NEW TIER THREES WERE BUT CAN'T ANSWER THAT, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS ON THE ADDING THE TIER ONE, TIER TWO, TIER THREE, WE'RE GOING FROM 20,000 BUDGET.
WHICH, MA'AM, ARE YOUR COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? WHAT WHAT ITEMS ARE YOU COMMENTING ON? RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ON FOUR F.
YEAH. SO THE BUDGET IS GOING FROM 20,000 TO 60,000 BECAUSE WE'VE ADDED THIS TIER CATEGORY AND.
SO THE TWO PREVIOUS QUALIFIERS ARE NOW GOING TO GO FROM 10,000 EACH TO 25,000 EACH, AND THEN THE TWO NEW TIER THREES ARE GOING TO GET 5000 EACH, BUT I THOUGHT ON LIKE THESE.
WHAT IS IT? I STILL HAVE TIME.
I THOUGHT THIS ISN'T PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BECAUSE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING I THOUGHT THERE COULD ACTUALLY BE AN INTERACTION.
THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY, SO YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER.
I'VE HEARD, PEOPLE GO BACK AND FORTH.
APPLICANTS, NOT PUBLIC COMMENTERS.
OKAY WELL, I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE NUMBERS AND THE TEN YEARS TO GO.
WONDERED WHERE THE TEN YEARS CAME FROM, IF IT'S A VERY PROFITABLE COMMUNITY POLICY.
IF IT'S VERY PROFITABLE, IT'S JUST SEEMS LIKE TWO YEARS IS A VERY LONG TIME TO HAVE TO WAIT.
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE THE NUMBERS CAME FROM, WHAT THE STUDY, WHO DID THE STUDIES AND JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, 20,000 TO 60,000 IS A LOT, AND JUST WONDERED HOW WE CAME TO ALL THOSE NUMBERS, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW I COULDN'T GET ANSWERS.
I MEAN, I KNOW IN THE NORMAL COMMENT PUBLIC FORUM YOU CAN'T, BUT.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ANY ITEMS ON CONSENT? COUNCIL ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON CONSENT TONIGHT? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
YES, MAYOR. COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH FOUR.I NOTING THAT WITH RESPECT TO ITEM FOUR, WE'RE APPROVING CASE NUMBER 23-0047A PLAT REVISION FOR LOT 20R TM HOOD NUMBER 706 EDITION LOCATED AT 1440 THROUGH 1500 SHADY OAKS DRIVE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, NOTING WE'RE GRANTING THE REQUESTED VARIANCE TO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE NUMBER 483, SECTION 5.06 AS AMENDED, REQUIRING A MINIMUM FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGE OF SHADY OAKS DRIVE.
ALSO NOTING WITH RESPECT TO ITEM EIGHT A, WE ARE TABLING ITEM EIGHT A INDEFINITELY, AND THAT'S RESOLUTION NUMBER 20-020 WITH RESPECT TO CASTING A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE IN THE CHIEF APPRAISER OF THE TARRANT APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND ALSO NOTING THAT WE'RE MOVING ITEM NINE A FROM OUR REGULAR AGENDA TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND WE'RE APPROVING ITEM NINE A.
ITEM NINE A IS CASE NUMBER 23-0014 SIGN VARIANCES FOR MPP LEGAL LOCATED AT 1203 SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, SUITE 250 IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.
THAT'S SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED AUGUST 29TH, 2023, NOTING WE'RE APPROVING THE REQUEST TO ALLOW UPPER STORY PLACEMENT OF THE ATTACHED SIGN ON THE NORTH ELEVATION AND ALSO NOTING WE'RE APPROVING THE REQUEST TO ALLOW THE OVERALL LOGO HEIGHT WITH A PROPOSED INCREASE FROM THE PERMITTED 20IN TO 22.5IN. OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
OKAY, CONSENT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
SO IT IS NOT YET 7:00 SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP OVER THE PUBLIC FORUM FOR NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE DIRECTLY TO ITEM SIX A, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-435B, ZA23-0044.
[6.A. Ordinance No. 480-435b, ZA23-0044, 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Site Plan for Feedstore BBQ & More located on a property described as Tracts 3E and 4D, and a portion of Tract 1F, Hiram Granberry Survey Abstract No. 581, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 520-580 S. White Chapel Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District and "SF-30" Single Family Residential District. Proposed Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District.]
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SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR FEED STORE BARBECUE DIRECTOR KILLOUGH.I BELIEVE WE DID A FULL PRESENTATION FIRST READING AND IF YOU'D LIKE, I'LL JUST JUMP TO THE MAIN SITE PLAN AND SURE ANY CHANGES AND ADDRESS? NO, NO CHANGES FROM FIRST READING.
THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND WOULD REPRESENT THE NEW ZONING BOUNDARY AS WELL.
COUNCIL WE SAW THIS APPROVED AT FIRST READING.
ANY QUESTIONS ON SECOND READING? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH.
SEEING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
GENTLEMEN, I SEE YOU IN THE BACK.
ANY ISSUES WITH THIS? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DISCUSS? YOU GOT IT. WELL, WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.
YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX A ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-435B.
CASE NUMBER ZA23-0044 SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR FEED STORE BARBECUE AND MORE LOCATED ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACKS THREE A AND FOUR D, THREE E AND FOUR D AND A PORTION OF TRACK ONE F, HIRAM GRANBURY SURVEY.
SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED AUGUST 29TH, 2023, AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO, DATED JULY 28TH, 2023, NOTING WE'RE APPROVING THE REQUEST VARIANCE REQUEST ON THE ZONING BOUNDARY TO INCLUDE 520 SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD FOR CARETAKERS QUARTERS, STORAGE AND EMPLOYEE PARKING, ALONG WITH THE COVERED PICNIC TABLES AND BENCHES AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
ALSO NOTING WE'RE APPROVING THE REQUESTED VARIANCES DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER 634 FOR MINIMUM CENTER LINE DRIVEWAY SPACING ALONG THE ROADWAY, ARTERIAL COMMERCIAL WITH A MINIMUM OF 250FT.
THE SITE HAS EXISTING DRIVEWAY CONDITIONS AND THERE ARE TWO POINTS OF INGRESS EGRESS APPROXIMATELY 180FT FROM CENTER LINE TO CENTER LINE AND ALSO APPROVING THE REQUESTED VARIANCE AS TO DRIVEWAY.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 634 ON MINIMUM STORAGE LENGTH OR STACKING A MINIMUM OF 50FT IS REQUIRED AND THE EXISTING SITE AND PARKING CONFIGURATION DO NOT PROVIDE ANY STORAGE. WE HAVE A MOTION.
PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT.
ITEM SIX IS APPROVED. SEVEN ZERO.
MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX B, WHICH IS ZA23-0046 SITE PLAN FOR CLARENDON RANCH SCHOOL DIRECTOR.
[6.B. ZA23-0046, Site Plan for Clariden Ranch School located on a property described as Lot 7, Block 1, Clariden Ranch Phase III, an addition to the City of Southlake, Denton County, Texas and located at 100 Clariden Ranch Road. Southlake, Texas, Current Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District.]
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS A REQUEST TO RECEIVE SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE CLARENDON SCHOOL AT 100 CLARENDON RANCH ROAD.THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THIS PROPERTY IS PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC.
THE ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY IS SP-2 GENERALIZED SITE PLAN DISTRICT.
THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE SITE.
A EXISTING SITE PHOTO OF THE SITE.
THE PURPOSE IS TO ADD THIS WALKWAY BETWEEN THESE TWO BUILDINGS.
THIS WALKWAY WAS APPROVED WITH THE RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED STEAM BUILDING, AND THEY WISH TO ADD THIS COVERED WALKWAY BETWEEN THESE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE.
THIS IS ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION OF THOSE COVERINGS, AND SPECIFIC TO THIS ITEM, WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY NOTICES TO DATE PERTAINING SPECIFICALLY TO THE.
PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS SIX ZERO, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY, AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, GREAT. THANKS, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH.
IF THERE'S ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM SIX B.
SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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IS THE APPLICANT HERE WANTING TO ADD? CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? IT'S GOING FINE. SO YOU'RE GOOD? SOUNDS GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT, COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX B.
PHASE THREE AN ADDITION TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS, LOCATED AT 100 CLARENDON RANCH ROAD, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED AUGUST 29TH, 2023, AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER ONE, DATED JULY 21ST, 2023, NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING THE INSTALLATION OF A CANOPY WALKWAY CONNECTED TO THE BUILDINGS, THE TWO BUILDINGS AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
OKAY, ADAM, SIX PASSES, SEVEN ZERO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS.
APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S INVESTMENT.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
AS YOU KNOW THAT THE NORTH WHITE CHAPEL AT KIRKWOOD BRANCH CROSSING IS UNDERWAY.
THAT MEANS THAT THE TRI-COUNTY ELECTRIC HAS SURVEYED THE AREA AND WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR PARKS BOARD TO IDENTIFY THE AREA JUST WEST OF THE CURRENT EASEMENT TO ALLOW TRI-COUNTY ELECTRIC TO RELOCATE THEIR UTILITIES, AND SO THIS ACTION WOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THAT REVISED EASEMENT FOR THEIR UTILITIES INFRASTRUCTURE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPOSED EASEMENT, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
IT'S ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH WHITE CHAPEL, AND IT WOULD ALLOW TRI-COUNTY TO CONSTRUCT, MAINTAIN AND REPAIR THEIR FACILITIES AS NECESSARY, AND IT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF SOUTH LAKE PARK PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, BASICALLY IT'S A DESIGN TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE BRIDGE OR THE CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CRITICAL DRAINAGE STRUCTURES ARE TWO AND THREE, AND IT ALSO INCREASED CONNECTIVITY TO BOB JONES PARK BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK ADDED TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, AND THERE'S NO COST TO THIS EASEMENT.
IT'S DEDICATED FOR NO COST, AND THEN THIS IS THE STRATEGY MAP AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ACTION FULFILLS OR MEETS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE ANY, AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. SEEING NONE. YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT.
[6.C. Ordinance No. 1275, 2nd Reading, adopt an ordinance to dedicate an electrical easement to Tri-Country Electric at Kirkwood/Sabre Linear Park for the North White Chapel Boulevard - Kirkwood Branch Roadway, Bridge, Sidewalk and Water Line Improvement Project.]
SEEING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM SIX C AND COUNCIL IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I WILL TAKE A MOTION.YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX C ORDINANCE NUMBER 1275 SECOND READING.
ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO DEDICATE AN ELECTRICAL EASEMENT TO TRI-COUNTY ELECTRIC AT KIRKWOOD/SABRE LINEAR PARK FOR THE NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, KIRKWOOD BRANCH, ROADWAY BRIDGE, SIDEWALK AND WATER LINE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, AND NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING THAT ELECTRICAL EASEMENT TO TRI-COUNTY ELECTRIC.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
ALL RIGHT. ITEM SIX C PASSES, SEVEN ZERO.
CONGRATULATIONS TO TRI-COUNTY, I SUPPOSE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO IT'S PAST 7:00, SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR PUBLIC FORUM.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC FORUM, AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENT CARDS.
SO RULES OF PUBLIC FORUM, YOU GOT THREE MINUTES.
THE LIGHT WILL GO ON. WHEN YOU START THE YELLOW LIGHT STARTS BLINKING.
ROB FORST. I'M AT 512 CLARENDON RANCH ROAD, SOUTHLAKE.
WE'RE JUST NORTH OF THAT BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION, AND THAT'S THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY.
THERE'S 169 HOMES IN CLARENDON RANCH, AND WE ARE UNDER SIGNIFICANT SAFETY CHALLENGE NOW BECAUSE OF THE CLOSING OF THE BRIDGE. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF CARS GOING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW, AND IT'S A BIG, BIG, BIG SAFETY PROBLEM.
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VISIBILITY TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE MAYOR.I'D LIKE YOU TO HEAR THIS AS WELL.
SERGEANT THOMAS HAS BEEN HELPFUL.
THE CITY HAS BEEN HELPFUL, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
PROBABLY OVER A THOUSAND CARS GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND AS I SAID, THIS IS A SAFETY.
THERE WAS A CROSS COUNTRY MEET, AND IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY ATHLETES THAT HAD ANY KIND OF MEDICAL ISSUE, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRANSPORTED SAFELY.
THERE WERE CARS LINED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET, AND SO THERE WAS ONE SMALL AREA FOR CARS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WAS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. THERE WAS A LINE OF CARS AT 11:30 AT NIGHT THIS PAST FRIDAY.
AGAIN, NO REAL ACCESS IN OR OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY KIND OF MEDICAL EMERGENCY FOR ANY OF THOSE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS NORTH OF US OR SOMEBODY PARTICIPATING IN THE SPORTING EVENTS AT THE PARK, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG, BIG LIABILITY FOR THE CITY, I THINK, AND A BIG PROBLEM THAT MEANS I'VE A MINUTE LEFT? OKAY. SO WE DID ENCAPSULATE ALL OF THIS IN THE EMAIL.
RIGHT. SO WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.
IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE.
WE HAD OFFICER THOMAS THIS MORNING GIVING TICKETS AND RADAR.
I DON'T KNOW HOW HE GAVE OUT QUITE A FEW TICKETS.
I THINK THIS MORNING. THERE'S PEOPLE SPEEDING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THE ISSUE IS NOT ONLY THESE BIG EVENTS, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, CROSS COUNTRY HAS PRACTICE IN THE MORNING WHERE THERE'S, I THINK 100 PLUS KIDS GOING TO THAT.
THERE'S CLAREDON SCHOOL THAT WE JUST SAW.
THERE'S OVER 150 STUDENTS THAT GET DROPPED OFF IN THE MORNING AND PICKED UP AT THE END OF THE DAY IS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION AND WE'D LIKE THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S PARTICIPATION AND HELP IN SHAWN DIDN'T COIN THE TERM, BUT SHOCK AND AWE.
SO YEAH, AND I HATE TO CUT YOU OFF.
I WANT TO KEEP EVERYONE TO THREE MINUTES, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT I KNOW THERE'S AN ONGOING DIALOG BETWEEN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITY, AND WE'VE ASKED SOME OF STAFF TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU GUYS.
OKAY, AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT IS PROBABLY GET DIRECTOR COHAN TO GIVE KIND OF RUN THROUGH A TIMELINE, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE HEARD IT BEFORE, IT'D BE NICE FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR IT, TOO, RIGHT.
SO WE UNDERSTAND IT'S AN ISSUE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
OKAY. THANKS, MAYOR. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS ABSOLUTELY.
SPEAKER, I HAVE DEBORAH CARDINALI.
SO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF.
SUPPORT OF MR. FORST. GINGER FORST.
DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORD.
I THINK SUPPORT FOR THE SAME PERSPECTIVE, AND NEELY SHATTER.
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S THE SAME ISSUE.
SO, DIRECTOR COHAN, CAN YOU JUST TAKE A MINUTE AND JUST RUN THROUGH THE TIMELINE OF THIS PROJECT? JUST SUPER HIGH LEVEL FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE WATCHING AT HOME, PLEASE.
SO WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
ONE IS THE NORTH WHITECHAPEL CROSSING.
PRESENTLY THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THE SCHEDULE IS GOING TO BE 18 MONTHS.
PART OF THAT IS BASICALLY WE HAVE ELEMENTS BUILT IN BECAUSE OF WHAT THE CONTRACTOR AND THE DESIGNERS SEE AS POTENTIAL SUPPLY ISSUES. OBVIOUSLY, AS THEY GO ALONG, WE CAN EXPEDITE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING WHATEVER WE CAN TO EXPEDITE AND MOVE THE PROJECT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
ONE OTHER POINT OF DISCUSSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE KIRKWOOD AND DOVE AREA WITH 114.
SO THERE WAS SOME WORK THAT WAS GOING ON.
WE TRIED TO TIME IT AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE WERE SOME DELAYS WITH THE TXDOT PROJECT THAT KIND OF CAUGHT US, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE BEING TOLD BY TXDOT THAT THE DOVE AND THE KIRKWOOD INTERSECTIONS WILL BE OPEN BY DECEMBER OF 2023 WITH THE FULL PROJECT FOR THE FRONTAGE ROADS COMPLETED LATE SPRING OF '24.
SO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE QUICK UPDATE OF WHAT WE HAVE FROM THOSE PROJECTS, SIR, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALL KIND OF HITTING THIS FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES, BUT I JUST ASK YOU AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYONE JUST TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITIZENS UP THERE TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNICATION IS TIGHT AS USUAL.
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YES, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR.OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC FORUM? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND MOVE ON TO THE BUDGET ITEM SIX D THROUGH SIX F APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED.
[6.D. Approval of the amended Fiscal Year 2023 Southlake Crime Control and Prevention District Operating Budget and adoption of Fiscal Year 2024 Operating Budget.]
WE'LL TAKE THESE TOGETHER, BUT WE'LL DO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON EACH.SO THE FIRST IS ITEM SIX D APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED FISCAL YEAR 2023 SOUTHLAKE CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT OPERATING BUDGET AND THE ADOPTION OF FISCAL YEAR 2024 OPERATING BUDGET.
MISS YELVERTON. YES, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
WE'VE PRESENTED A LOT OF INFORMATION ALREADY THIS EVENING.
WE'RE PREPARED TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THE ITEMS AND HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS, BUT OBVIOUSLY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT ANY OF THIS, AND OF COURSE, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
DIRECTOR JACKSON, TAKE IT AWAY.
THANK YOU. SO THE FIRST ITEM THAT I WILL GO OVER WILL BE THE CRIME CONTROL PREVENTION DISTRICT'S BUDGET, AND AGAIN, JUST FOR REFERENCE, IT'S THE BUDGET THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE VOTER APPROVED ONE EIGHT CENT SALES TAX THAT'S USED FOR CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.
SO IT'S A DEBT FREE FUNDING SOURCE AS WELL AS IT ALSO CONTINUATION OF THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS INCLUDED IN THE CRIME CONTROL BUDGET AS WELL AS WE'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL OFFICER THIS YEAR IN 2024 AS A NEW ADDITIONAL SRO OFFICER, AND AGAIN, IT CONTINUES WITH ADDING ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT FOR POLICE SERVICES AS WELL AS IN THE TECHNOLOGY AREA AS WELL, AND THE GOOD NEWS THAT THE ENDING FUND BALANCE IS HEALTHY AT JUST OVER $4 MILLION.
SO IT'S A VERY FINANCIAL STABLE FUND AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE CRIME CONTROL BUDGET BEFORE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CROWD CONTROL? PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THANK YOU.
THE FIRST WOULD LIKE TO INDICATE ON THIS SLIDE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING A TAX RATE REDUCTION JUST OVER $0.04, AND THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IS JUST BELOW THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, AND ALSO THIS WOULD REDUCE THE REVENUE OF JUST OVER 4.3 MILLION WITH THIS TAX RATE RELIEF INCENTIVE.
NEXT. WE ARE PROPOSING TO CONTINUE WITH THE 20% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH, BASED ON THE AVERAGE-PRICED HOME, WOULD REDUCE THE TAXABLE VALUE OF JUST OVER $200,000, WHICH ALSO GIVES AN ADDITIONAL TAX RATE REDUCTION EQUIVALENT OF 6.4 CENTS, 6.4 CENTS AND REDUCES THE CITIES REVENUE REDUCTION OF JUST OVER $5 MILLION.
WITH THE CURRENT TAX RATE OF $0.36, THE PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 31.9 WITH THE EQUIVALENT TAX RATE REDUCTION WHEN YOU APPLY THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION REDUCES THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE AND TAX RATE EQUIVALENT OF JUST 0.255, AND SO BASED ON THE AVERAGE VALUE HOME, WHICH IS OVER $1 MILLION, THE AVERAGE TAX BILL WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $2,600, AND TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS THE PRIMARY FUNDING SOURCE FOR OUR GENERAL OPERATIONS, FIRE POLICE AND THE GENERAL OPERATIONS OF THE CITY. NEXT, LET'S DO A SUMMARY OF THE TAX RATE PROPOSAL WE ARE PROPOSING TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE TO JUST OVER $0.31, WHICH IS JUST OVER $0.04.
TAX RATE REDUCTION MAINTAINING THE 20% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED IN STATE STATUTE, AND MAINTAINING OTHER EXEMPTIONS RELATED TO DISABLED AND OVER 65 AND MAINTAINING THE SENIOR TAX FREEZE AS WELL, AND DIRECTOR JACKSON, JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHAT WAS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE THIS YEAR? NO NEW REVENUE RATE WAS .319375, AND WE'RE PROPOSING A TAX RATE OF 0.319.
SO IT'S BELOW THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
SO WE BEAT IT AGAIN, HUH? YES. ALL RIGHT, AND IN THIS IS A GREAT SUMMARY TO SHOW ALL OF THE TAXPAYER RELIEF SUMMARY THAT THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED OVER THE YEARS AND THIS REPRESENTS THE 13TH INITIATIVE TAKEN SINCE 2009, WHICH GIVES A GREAT REVIEW OF ONGOING TAX RELIEF AND AGAIN
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IN 2024 PROPOSING THE EXACT SAME LEVEL, IF NOT GREATER TAX RELIEF WHEN YOU CONSIDER IT'S JUST OVER A FOUR CENT TAX RATE REDUCTION.WE ARE SEEING SLOWING REVENUE GROWTH AS INDICATED IN THE SALES TAX PROJECTION AS WELL AS THE REDUCTION IN DEVELOPMENT REVENUE BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT HAS SLOWED DOWN STATE LEGISLATIVE EACH SESSION THEY DO A CAP OF THE POTENTIAL INCREASE IN REVENUE OR REDUCTION IN REVENUE AS WELL AS WE ALSO HAVE TO FACTOR IN OUR CIP CAPITAL PROJECTS DEMAND THAT ARE COMING IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE ONE TAKEAWAY I WOULD SAY JUST IN FUTURE ONGOING SUSTAINABILITY, WHEN WE THINK THROUGH BALANCING THE BUDGET TAX RATE RELIEF, THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BALANCE IT WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO SERVICE NEW PROJECTS AND ALSO OUR DEBT MANAGEMENT STRATEGY OF PAYING CASH FOR PART OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND BALANCING IT WITH THE DEBT REQUIREMENTS TO DO THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE SOMETHING WE WILL WANT TO CONTINUE TO MANAGE AND THINK THROUGH FROM A FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY PROCESS.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, SINCE 2014 ON THROUGH 2024, THE TAX AVERAGE TAX BILL HAS MAINTAINED PRETTY STEADY, 2300 TO 2600 ON AVERAGE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE HAD A VERY STEADY TAX RATE BILL FOR OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN THE CITY.
WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE VALUE THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING FOR THAT TAX BILL.
ANOTHER GREAT POINT IS TO SHOW AT A QUICK GLANCE THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX OWNER BILL HOW IT'S ALLOCATED AND IT'S BROKEN UP BETWEEN ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES AS BASED ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE OF THE ENTITIES.
THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE PORTION OF THEIR BILL REPRESENTS ABOUT 12% OF THE OVERALL BILL.
THEN ALL OF THE TAXING ENTITIES WHEN THEY RECEIVE THEIR TOTAL BILL.
ANY QUESTIONS OVER SPECIFIC TAX RATE TO MOVE ON TO THE DEBT? BECAUSE THE TAX RATE IS DIVIDED AMONG TWO AREAS, WE HAVE A PORTION RELATED TO THE DEBT, WHICH IS 0.055 AND THEN 0.264 WILL BE FOR M&O. SO JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF THE DEBT PORTION OF THE TAX RATE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF OUR DEBT STRUCTURE.
FOR OVER A DECADE, WE'VE WORKED TO MANAGE OUR DEBT, TO REDUCE OUR OUTSTANDING DEBT, AND THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU A GREAT INDICATION OF HOW WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR DEBT STRATEGY TO REDUCE OUR OUTSTANDING DEBT AS AN ASSESSED VALUE OF PROPERTY VALUE, AND WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET OF 2024 OUR ASSESSED VALUE TO LONG TERM DEBT WILL BE 0.28%, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE TREND CHART.
SO WE'RE STILL MAINTAINING OUR OVERALL DEBT STRATEGY THAT WE'VE CONTINUED THROUGH ALL THE YEARS.
ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY TAX IS DIVIDED INTO TWO STRUCTURES.
DEBT SERVICE, AS WELL AS THE GENERAL OPERATING SERVICES, AND IN THIS BUDGET, FOR THE PORTION RELATED TO THE GENERAL FUND, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES WILL STILL MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE IN GENERAL OPERATIONS AS IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGETS.
NOW TO HIGHLIGHT THE LAST ITEM THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF IS THE ACTUAL ADOPTION OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR 2024 AND THE REVISED FIGURES FOR THE BUDGET OF 2023.
IN THIS BUDGET. WE HAVE MULTIPLE FUNDS, BUT THE OVERALL OPERATING BUDGET IS $127 MILLION WITH OVERALL IS AN 8.2% INCREASE WHEN COMPARED TO THE 2023 BUDGET, AND ALSO IT DOES INCLUDE TRANSFERS TO EXCESS FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR OUR ONE TIME HIGH IMPACT PROJECTS.
AS WITH OUR PREVIOUS BUDGETS, WE HAVE MAINTAINED OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES AS WHEN PREVIOUS BUDGETS AND WHICH HAS SERVED US VERY WELL, AND A GREAT INDICATION OF THAT IS THE TRIPLE A BOND RATING WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THREE ALL THREE RATING AGENCIES AND THEN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
WE'RE MAINTAINING AN ADHERENT TO ALL OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AGAIN, THAT HAVE SERVED US WELL.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS THAT YOU CAN GET DETAILED INFORMATION ON THE BUDGET ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, ALSO IN THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, AS WELL AS ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WILL BE HOLDING THIS MONTH, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON CRIME CONTROL BUDGET, THE TAX RATE, OR THE OVERALL OPERATING BUDGET.
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COMMENTS? WORDS OF PRAISE? NO, IN SERIOUSNESS, DIRECTOR JACKSON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, AND SHAUNA AND ALLISON AND THE REST OF THE STAFF, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT THROUGH THIS BUDGET SEASON, BUT WE ARE SO APPRECIATIVE BOTH AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND AS TAXPAYERS, THAT YOU GUYS ARE SUCH GREAT STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY, AND , YOU KNOW, IT IS A COMMITMENT FROM THIS COUNCIL THAT WE WILL ALWAYS DO OUR VERY BEST TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.THE REALITY IS SOME YEARS, AS YOU KNOW, THE REVENUE PIECE IS TOUGHER THAN OTHERS, AND THE EXPENSE PIECE IS, AS IT TURNS OUT, ALWAYS GOING UP BECAUSE OUR PEOPLE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THEY USED TO BE, AND OUR RESIDENTS DEMAND EXCELLENCE, RIGHTFULLY SO, FOR THEIR TAX DOLLARS AND SERVICES, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS SPEND SO MUCH TIME DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO MAINTAIN STRONG BUDGETING, TO MAINTAIN A TRIPLE A BOND RATING FROM ALL THREE RATING AGENCIES, ONE OF TWO, I THINK, CITIES IN TEXAS TO ACHIEVE THAT.
IT'S VERY IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HELPING US DELIVER ON OUR PROMISES TO OUR CITIZENS AS WELL.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THE GREAT TAX CUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO. SO FIRST IS ITEM 6D.
I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 6D.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE A MOTION.
YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX D APPROVING THE AMENDED FISCAL YEAR 2023 SOUTHLAKE CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT OPERATING BUDGET AND ADOPTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 OPERATING BUDGET, NOTING WE'RE APPROVING AN AMENDED FISCAL YEAR 2023 SOUTHLAKE CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT OPERATING BUDGET, AND WE'RE ALSO APPROVING ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 SOUTHLAKE CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT OPERATING BUDGET.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
ALL RIGHT. ITEM 6D PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
[6.E. Ordinance No. 1277, 1st Reading, Tax Levy Ordinance.]
ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SIR, COME ON DOWN.IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS FAROOQ AZEEM 151 PLAYERS CIRCLE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.
I WISH THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE TO THANK YOU FOR CUTTING OUR TAXES EVERY DECEMBER.
ALL MY MONEY GOES TO PAYING PROPERTY TAXES, AND GENERALLY WHEN TAX COLLECTION RISES, CITIES TEND TO SPEND THAT MONEY, BUT I'M SO PROUD OF YOU AND SO HAPPY THAT YOU ARE CUTTING OUR TAXES AND RETURNING THE MONEY WHERE IT BELONGS AND WHERE IT WILL BE REINVESTED INTO OTHER THINGS THAT DRAIN ALL OF OUR MONEY EVERY DECEMBER, AND I REALLY SOMETIMES HAVE TO PAY PENALTY NOT PAYING ON TIME BECAUSE IT'S VERY HEAVY BURDEN, AND HONESTLY, ALL OF YOU BELONG AT CAPITOL HILL, NOT HERE [INAUDIBLE] MORE TAXES.
I'M VERY MOVED AND VERY HAPPY TO SEEING THE PROPERTY TAX ACTUALLY GO DOWN.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANKS FOR SAYING THAT.
YOU KNOW THE SPEAKERS ON ITEM SIX E.
ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE A MOTION.
YES, MAYOR. COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX E ORDINANCE NUMBER 1277.
FIRST READING TAX LEVY ORDINANCE.
NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING THE TAX LEVY ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
OKAY. ITEM SIX E PASSES SEVEN ZERO.
[6.F. Ordinance No. 1276, 1st Reading, approving and adopting the Annual Budget for Fiscal Year 2024, and approving the revised budget figures for Fiscal year 2023.]
OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON SIX F? SEEING NONE. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX F ORDINANCE NUMBER 1276.
FIRST READING, APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND APPROVING THE REVISED BUDGET FIGURES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023, NOTING AGAIN THAT WE'RE APPROVING AN ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND APPROVING REVISED BUDGET FIGURES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.
SO ALL APPROVED ON FIRST READING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS FOR SECOND READING.
[7. Ordinances, first readings, and related items.]
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3-0045. FIRST READING ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CARILLON PARC.DIRECTOR KILLOUGH THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THIS IS AERIAL PHOTO OF THE CARILLON PARC SITE.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND VARIOUS ELEMENTS WITHIN THE CURRENT APPROVED ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY.
IT IS UNDER OUR BASE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE LAND USE CATEGORY.
THERE IS AN OPTIONAL LAND USE CLASSIFICATION PLACED ON THIS FOR EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED UNDER THAT OPTIONAL EMPLOYMENT CENTER CATEGORY AND IS ZONED AS EMPLOYMENT CENTER ZONING DISTRICT.
THIS IS A RUN THROUGH OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES PROPOSED.
THE CURRENT ZONING REQUIRES THAT THE 79 RESIDENTIAL LOTS NOT BE PERMITTED TO BE RELEASED FOR PERMIT UNTIL THE PHASE ONE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN INSPECTED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY AND DEEMED COMPLETE.
THERE'S ALSO A PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE AMOUNT OF PARK DEDICATION BEING PROVIDED.
THE CURRENT ZONING REQUIRES 8 TO 9 ACRES.
THIS PROPOSAL IS CHANGING OR PROPOSES CHANGING THAT FROM 7 TO 8 ACRES.
THERE'S A GENERAL BUILDING LAYOUT CHANGE WITHIN THE SITE.
ALSO, THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL ROADWAY BEING PROPOSED ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF 114, IN PARTICULAR IN ANTICIPATION OF THE RAMP REVERSAL THAT COULD BE DEDICATED AS PUBLIC ROAD AND PROVIDE A SECOND ENTRANCE OFF OF THE 114 FRONTAGE.
THE WEDDING CHAPEL PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
THE RESIDENTIAL LOFTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR THE SITE IS BEING PROPOSED TO CHANGE FROM A MINIMUM FLOOR AREA OF 2300FT² TO AN AVERAGE FLOOR AREA OF 2300FT².
UM, OVERALL, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING BEING ADDED TO THE PROPERTY AND THEN AN OVERALL INCREASE IN FLOOR AREA FOR THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF APPROXIMATELY 188,000FT² AND ALTHOUGH NOT SPECIFICALLY SHOWN ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE APPLICANTS ASKED FOR THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN OPTIONAL RETENTION DETENTION POND TO BE LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY TO HANDLE DEVELOP CONDITION RUNOFF, BUT ALSO AN ESTHETIC FEATURE S HOULD THERE BE SOME CHALLENGES WITH GETTING OFFSITE DRAINAGE EASEMENTS TO CONVEY WATER TO THE EXISTING PONDS AND CARILLON DEVELOPMENT.
ONE OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS IN THIS BESIDES BUILDING RECONFIGURATION AND AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING LOCATED HERE THIS L ACK OF A BETTER TERMINOLOGY.
JUGHANDLE STREET IS CURRENTLY PART OF THE PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION AND MONEY'S BEEN ESCROWED FOR THAT.
THEY'RE ASKING TO PULL THAT OUT OF THE PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT.
SO IT COULD BE BASICALLY FINAL PLATTED AS A LATER DATE WHEN SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN FULLY COMPLETED ON THIS AND THE PARK PROPERTY, AND THIS IS OVERALL PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE IS A DRIVEWAY CURRENTLY SHOWN ON THE ON BOTH PLANS THAT EXTENDS HERE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO BUILDINGS IN THIS AREA.
THIS IS ALSO IN THE ZONING BOOKLET PROPOSED AS OPTIONAL PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND WOULD ADD ANOTHER DRIVEWAY OR STREET CONNECTION AT ROUGHLY THIS LOCATION OF THE SITE.
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GIVEN THAT THERE IS ANTICIPATED RAMP REVERSALS BEING WORKED ON BY TXDOT.WE'VE RECEIVED A FEW RESPONSES IN PARTICULAR WITHIN THE ONE RESIDENT ON LE MANS, NOTING THEIR OPPOSITION AND ONE IN FAVOR AND THEN I DO BELIEVE THERE WERE ABOUT ROUGHLY A DOZEN EMAILS THAT WERE SENT OUT TODAY NOTING THEIR OPPOSITION THAT DID DID NOT ALL APPEAR TO BE WITHIN THE CARILLON DEVELOPMENT.
WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION WHICH.
WILL YOU FLIP BACK TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, PLEASE? SURE. SO I GUESS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IN THIS.
WELL, DO YOU HAVE THE PRIOR APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN? YES. OKAY.
THERE WE GO. SO WILL YOU OUTLINE GENERALLY WHERE THIS PARK IS GOING UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN? CURRENT PLAN NOT PROPOSED PLAN.
THE PARK INCLUDES MAJORITY OF THIS AREA IN THIS VICINITY, AND THEN ALSO THIS TEARDROP HERE ON THE CURRENT PLAN, IT BASICALLY FOLLOWS THE SAME BOUNDARY.
THIS TEARDROP ALSO IS STILL ALLOCATED AS AS PARK AND THEN.
THERE IS THIS AREA NOTCHED OUT AROUND THIS ADDITIONAL BUILDING THAT WOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THIS AREA OF THE PARK. OKAY, AND WHERE WOULD THE PROPOSED DETENTION POND GO? THEY HAVE JUST GENERALIZED IT SOMEWHERE IN THIS SOUTHWEST CORNER, AND ANY IDEA HOW BIG IT WOULD BE? I DO NOT KNOW THE SIZE NEEDED TO HANDLE WHAT THEY'RE NEEDING TO ADDRESS NOW BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS OF THE DETENTION POND, IT PRETTY MUCH EATS OUR PARK. THAT'S NOT A QUESTION.
SO JUGHANDLE STREET, WAS THAT PART OF OUR PHASE ONE INFRASTRUCTURE? IT IS, YES.
ANY RESIDENTIAL LOTS BEING RELEASED, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
OKAY, AND SO UNDER THE CURRENT PROPOSAL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ESCROWING THE MONEY TO SOME FUTURE DATE? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, AND THEY WOULD ALSO NEED TO DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY WITH FINAL PLAT.
SO IT IS THEIR PRESENT TO ALLOW THE STREET TO BE CONSTRUCTED IF NEED BE.
OKAY, AND GOING BACK AND WATCHING THE MEETINGS FROM DECEMBER OF 21 OR NOVEMBER OF 21, WAS THAT THE LAST TIME THIS WAS REZONED? DECEMBER OF '21.
OKAY. CORRECT. YES, BUT A BIG PART OF THE REASON WE SET UP THIS PHASE ONE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN WAS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE ALL THE COMMERCIALS COMING IN AND INCENTIVIZING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE THE REQUEST WAS WE NEED THE RESIDENTIAL TO MAKE THE COMMERCIAL WORK.
I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT, MAYOR, YES.
COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS AT THIS TIME? OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.
SO BEFORE WE GET INTO THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION, MR. CHAIR, I'LL INVITE YOU UP.
I WANT TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
LET ME FLIP OVER TO THE APPLICANT.
SO BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THIS REQUEST.
I'M SORRY? DO YOU WANT ME TO STATE MY NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? SURE. ONCE YOU START TALKING.
IT'S JOHN TERRELL, 161 SUMMIT AVENUE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.
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THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGE ITEMS IN THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST.THE FIRST IS WHY? WHY SHOULD THE CITY AT THIS POINT WHEN DIRT IS LITERALLY MOVING ON THE SITE, CONSIDER THE ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE MAJOR PARTS OF THE DEAL ARE GETTING RE-TRADED RIGHT.
I KNOW THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE.
SO WHAT EXPECTATION SHOULD SOUTHLAKE HAVE? THIS IS THE LAST ZONING REQUEST THAT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH.
THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE BEFORE WE GO OVER THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. SO I THINK A LOT OF THIS WOULD BE EXPLAINED IF YOU ACTUALLY LET ME GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION RATHER THAN ANSWERING THOSE ONE OFF ITEMS WITHOUT THE FULL BACKGROUND OF THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE I THINK THE PRESENTATION WILL GIVE THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE A WONDERFUL BACKGROUND ON THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE, ARE BENEFICIAL TO THE PROJECT, REDUCES COSTS TO THE CITY AND ACTUALLY IS A GREAT IMPACT, AND I THINK, TOO, WHEN YOU SEE THE NEW AERIALS, WE'RE GOING FAR AND BEYOND WHAT WE ACTUALLY AGREED TO DO IN PHASE ONE.
WHEN I SHOWED YOU THOSE AERIALS, WE'RE ACTUALLY ALREADY STARTING ON THE MASS GRADING ON THE COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS NOT AN OBLIGATION. SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT, AND AS YOU NOTED, THE AERIALS ARE THE WORK THAT HAS STARTED IS TREMENDOUS, AND WE'RE ALREADY DOING A LOT MORE WORK THAN WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND GETTING READY TO LAUNCH CONSTRUCTION IN THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. I THINK THAT ONCE YOU SEE THE PRESENTATION, YOU WILL KNOW WHY WE NEED THOSE CHANGES TO HELP FACILITATE THOSE PARTICULAR COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE WHY NOW.
NOW IF YOU COULD ADDRESS MY SECOND QUESTION, WHICH IS WE'RE HERE WE GOT TO KNOW THE ZONING CHANGE.
WHAT CONFIDENCE SHOULD SOUTHLAKE HAVE THAT THIS IS THE LAST ONE THAT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH? WELL, I THINK IF YOU RECALL THAT PART OF THE LAST ZONING CHANGE REMOVED THE LIBRARY FROM DISCUSSION WHEN WE CAME IN FOR THE FIRST ZONING CHANGE OR FOR THE FIRST ZONING BACK IN 21.
THAT AREA IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WAS COLORED PINK TO BE DETERMINED LATER.
WHEN WE FIGURED OUT WHETHER THE CITY WAS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LIBRARY, WE HAD CONVERSATIONS PERSONALLY ABOUT THAT LIBRARY AND THEN WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER, AND YOU ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE US TO COME BACK IN WITH AN ALTERNATIVE IN THAT SPACE BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT SURROUNDS THAT FOUNTAIN AREA AND MAKE IT WORK.
YOU'RE ALSO ASKING FOR HOMES EARLIER THAN WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE LAST ZONING CHANGE.
HOLD ON. SO THERE ARE A FEW KEY.
YOU'RE REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE PARK.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IN SIX MONTHS, ARE WE GOING TO GET ANOTHER ONE IN A YEAR? ARE WE GOING TO GET ANOTHER? LIKE, WHEN DOES THIS END? WHEN DO WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WHERE WE CAN SAY TO SOUTHLAKE AND THE RESIDENTS OF CARILLON, ANY NEW ZONING EXCUSE ME, ANY ADDITIONAL ZONING? SO WHEN DO WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN SAY TO EVERYBODY, THIS IS IT, THIS IS THE PLAN? OKAY. I WOULD SAY THAT FROM THIS POINT ON, IT'S ALL GOING TO BE SITE PLAN.
OKAY. WELL, I WANT EVERYBODY TO GET THEIR SAY SO.
I'M HAPPY TO LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION.
GO AHEAD. WELL, I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION.
I'M NOT SURE THIS SOUNDS TO ME I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS SEEMS TO BE ALMOST AN ATTACK BEFORE WE'RE EVEN ALLOWED TO SAY WHY WE'RE ASKING WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION.
I'M ASKING QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF OUR TAXPAYERS WANT TO KNOW.
YOU HAVEN'T EVEN LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATION.
MR. TERRELL. YES, MR. MAYOR? I AM NOT ACCUSING YOU OF ANYTHING.
I'M ASKING QUESTIONS THAT, FRANKLY, ALL TAXPAYERS OF SOUTHLAKE DESERVE TO UNDERSTAND.
WE'RE GETTING A REQUEST TO REZONE A PROJECT TO CHANGE A DEAL THAT WE MADE TWO YEARS AGO AND DO YOU NOT THINK COUNCIL IS ENTITLED TO KNOW WHY? DO YOU THINK THAT'S AN ACCUSATION REQUESTED THAT THOSE QUESTIONS BE ASKED AFTER THE PRESENTATION TO SEE IF I RESPOND TO ALL OF THOSE
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QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M ANTICIPATING ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS.I UNDERSTAND FOR ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS, I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THERE IS A THRESHOLD LEVEL OF WELL, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO REZONE IT IN THESE SPECIFIC WAYS, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POINT OF REZONING IS AT ALL, AND YOU YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU HAVE ANSWERS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHY YOU THINK THIS IS BETTER FOR THE SITE, BUT BUT TO CHARACTERIZE IT AS AN ACCUSATION IS UNFAIR.
I JUST FEEL LIKE TYPICALLY WE GET TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AND THEN YOU ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS.
LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE WELCOME. I'M HOPING I'M HOPING THAT THE PRESENTATION RESPONDS ADEQUATELY TO ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THEM.
THEN WHAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD AT THE TIME OF THE LIBRARY AND THE PERFORMING ARTS, WHICH THE CITY BACKED AWAY FROM, AND THEN WE THEN PRESENTED THE NEW PLAN, WHICH IS THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU NOW.
VERY CLOSE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE REVISIONS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.
THERE ARE SEVEN OF THEM, SOME OTHER MINOR THINGS, AND I'LL GO OVER EACH ONE OF THESE IN MORE DETAIL INDIVIDUALLY, BUT JUST HIGHLIGHTING ONE AS DENNIS WENT THROUGH COMMENCING CONSTRUCTION ON FIVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN ADVANCE OF HAVING THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE DONE ON THE 76, ALLOWING DEVELOPER FLEXIBILITY TO REPLACE WHAT WAS GOING TO BE THE LOCATION THAT WE HAD PROPOSED FOR THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND BRING IN A REVENUE PRODUCING AND ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT BUILDING IN WHERE NUMBER TWO IS REVISION.
NUMBER THREE, REQUESTING THE OPTION TO COMBINE TWO BUILDINGS OVER THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OVER ON WHITE CHAPEL INTO ONE SO THAT WE CAN BUILD AN UNDERGROUND PARKING LOT UNDERNEATH THAT AND PROVIDE MORE PARKING SPACES.
SO IT IS AN AMENITY RATHER THAN JUST A DETENTION POND, AND THAT WOULD ONLY BE THE CASE, AND I'LL GO OVER THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN A FEW MINUTES. REVISION FIVE IS TO REMOVE THAT JUGHANDLE FROM A PUBLIC ROAD TO A PRIVATE ROAD ALLOWING FOR ALL OF THE VALET PARKING.
WE'VE BEEN STAYING ON TOP OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH TXDOT AND THE HIGHWAY AND CERTAINLY VERY INTERESTED IN MOBILITY, ACCESSIBILITY AND EASE OF MOVING AROUND THROUGH THIS AND GETTING IN AND OUT DURING DIFFERENT EVENTS, AND SO GETTING A SECOND ENTRANCE OVER THERE BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE PENDING TXDOT WORK IS IMPORTANT, AND THEN REVISION SEVEN CHANGING THE UNIT SIZE FROM 2300 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM TO A 2300 SQUARE FOOT AVERAGE MINIMUM OF 1600 SQUARE FEET ON THE UNITS, BUT WE RETAIN 50 MAXIMUM ON THE UNITS.
SO SPECIFICALLY, LET'S GO INTO THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT ONES, ALLOWING THE DEVELOPER TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION ON THE FIVE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING. THAT'S CURRENTLY PROHIBITED, NO HOME MAY START UNTIL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE ENTIRE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. AS YOU CAN SEE, LOTS OF PROGRESS IS BEING MADE.
THE PURPOSE IS TO BASICALLY WORK WITH A SAINT JUDE TO DO A DREAM HOME SCENARIO WHERE THE FIVE CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS EACH ARE ABLE TO BUILD ONE HOME AT THIS LOCATION THAT UPGRADES THOSE HOMES.
IT'S GOING TO GIVE A LOT OF NATIONAL ATTENTION TO SOUTHLAKE, TO CARILLON PARC, AND OF COURSE IT BENEFITS GREATLY THE SAINT JUDE'S ORGANIZATION.
SO UNLIKE THE REST OF THE SINGLE FAMILY, THERE'S UTILITIES IN RIVIERA, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY FURTHER CONSTRUCTION ON UTILITIES TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THOSE LOTS ON RIVIERA SO THEY CAN BE SERVED.
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SO IT WOULD REQUIRE CONTINUED GRADING, PUTTING IN THE ALLEYWAY BACK BEHIND, BUT THEN ALLOWING US TO BUILD FIVE OF THOSE PARTICULAR LOTS.IT ALSO THEN ALLOWS, ONCE THEY'RE BUILT TO CREATE A BUFFER FOR EVERYONE THAT FACES FROM RIVIERA, THOSE WOULD GET BUILT VERY QUICKLY AND THEY WOULD PROVIDE A BUFFER FOR ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION TO TAKE PLACE TO THE WEST OF RIVIERA IN THOSE 76 LOTS.
THE UTILITIES, AS I MENTIONED, ARE ALREADY LOCATED IN RIVIERA.
SO THE SAINT JUDE DREAM HOME SHOWPLACE COMMUNITY.
THERE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.
AS YOU RECALL, WE'VE ALREADY GONE TO THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE.
WE WENT TO SPIN AND WE WENT TO P AND Z.
THERE ARE FIVE LUXURY HOME BUILDERS WE'VE GOT.
WILLOW TREE CUSTOM HOMES, AND BECKETT-GRAHAM LUXURY HOMES.
I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE STARTING IN THE 1.8 AND GOING UP TO ABOUT $3 MILLION AT THIS LOCATION.
THEY ARE COMMITTED TO COLLECTIVELY THROUGH THESE FIVE HOMES, RAISING $1 MILLION FOR SAINT JUDE'S, AND WE'VE GOT ACTUALLY THE SAINT JUDE'S FOLKS HERE, AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK THERE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT QUESTIONS IN THE PRIOR MEETINGS ABOUT WHAT IS THE SAINT JUDE DREAM HOME PROJECT.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. MAYOR, JENNIFER KIMBLE IS HERE AND SHE COULD COME UP AND EXPLAIN SOME OF THE SAINT JUDE.
LET'S FINISH UP THE PRESENTATION.
IF WE NEED TO BRING HER UP, WE WILL.
OKAY. SO SHE'S THE AREA MANAGING DIRECTOR.
THEY'VE GOT A GREAT ORGANIZATION.
IT'S A GLOBAL RECOGNIZED CHARITY, AND IT FEATURES SOME NATIONAL EXPOSURE THAT THEY DO ON THEIR BEHALF FOR THE CITY AND FOR CARILLON PARC THROUGH DIGITAL SOCIAL CHANNELS, MEDIA AND MASS MARKETING EFFORTS.
THE REVISION, NUMBER TWO, ALLOWING THE DEVELOPER FLEXIBILITY FOR THE OPTION TO DEVELOP RETAIL, RESTAURANT OFFICE, A PRIVATE CLUB AND PUBLIC LIBRARY OR PUBLIC LIBRARY IN THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE'RE NUMBER TWO IS LOCATED SINCE THE LIBRARY WAS KIND OF I DON'T KNOW THAT'S A PERMANENT DECISION FROM THE FOR THE CITY, BUT WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT IF WE BUILD A BUILDING THERE THAT CAN GENERATE SIGNIFICANT REVENUE, TAX REVENUES, ETCETERA, IF THE CITY DOES NOT ELECT TO DO THAT, THEN WE'VE GOT A PERMITTED USE TAX GENERATOR.
ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT SURROUNDS THE FOUNTAIN AS WAS ALWAYS ANTICIPATED, AND THE IT WOULD PRESERVE THOUGH THE RIGHT OR THE OPTION FOR THE LIBRARY.
ONCE WE GOT THAT STARTED, IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY AND THE CITY DECIDED TO GO THERE.
IT ALSO THEN ALLOWS US TO PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR THAT BUILDING INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR IT TO COME LATER, AND SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD ALREADY BE IN PLACE FOR THE ROAD AND UTILITIES ALONG THE EASTERN EDGE AND PROVIDE BETTER CIRCULATION.
YOU WOULD BUILD IT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY UNLESS THE CITY MADE A DECISION LATER TO CHANGE IT BACK TO A LIBRARY, IN WHICH CASE THAT AREA UNDER THAT BUILDING AND THE ACCESSIBILITY WOULD BE PART OF THE PARK.
ALL WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THERE IS WE ARE PARKING IS AN ISSUE OUT ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
THERE IS NO WAY TO DO THE PARKING UNDER THE TWO BUILDING STRUCTURE OR SCENARIO, BUT IF WE DO A ONE BUILDING STRUCTURE, WE CAN BRING IN A DRIVE, GET IT DEPRESSED UNDERNEATH AND HAVE PARKING UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING, STILL KEEPING IT SO THAT IT IS NOT SURFACE PARKING BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO AVOID THE SURFACE PARKING LOOK, FEEL, ET CETERA.
IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE COSTLY TO BUILD A BUILDING WITH A PARKING LOT UNDERNEATH IT, SO IT'S NOT A FINANCIAL CONCERN ON THE DEVELOPER.
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FACILITATE AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE.WE ARE HAVING SOME CHALLENGES IN GETTING SOME OF THE DRAINAGE OFF OF THE SITE, AND SO ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES, IF WE CANNOT GET THE DRAINAGE THROUGH THE TEN ACRES THAT IS TO THE EAST, IS TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A RETENTION SLASH DETENTION POND IN THE PARK.
THAT WOULD BE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
THE DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY AGREED THAT IF THE FOUNTAIN IS PUT IN THERE AND THE PARK OR THE POND IS PUT IN, THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE OF THAT, EVEN THOUGH THAT AREA IS CURRENTLY RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY, AND SO THAT TAKES THAT BURDEN OF THAT AREA OFF OF CITY MAINTENANCE, PUTS IT ON THE DEVELOPER, INCLUDING THE FOUNTAIN, AND PROVIDES AN ESTHETICALLY PLEASING ENTRANCE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
AS FAR AS ZONING REVISION, NUMBER FIVE, THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR FUTURE VALET, I THINK DENNIS TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT CREATED SOME ISSUES BECAUSE WE ALL KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ESCROWING FUNDS THAT WAS AGREED TO.
WE WERE NOT GOING TO BUILD IT.
SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET OUT OF BUILDING IT.
WE WERE WILLING TO NOT ONLY ESCROWING THE FUNDS, BUT THEN AS WE HAD OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS LIKE [INAUDIBLE] AND SOME OF THESE OTHER RESTAURANTS, AND WE FIGURED OUT EXACTLY HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THEY NEED IN BEHIND THE CONDO BUILDING OR THE LOFT BUILDING.
NOTICE THAT WE'VE GOT A SPEED RAMP GOING INTO THAT IS SO THAT THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE THE HUGE NUMBER OF VALET PARKERS AND CREATE AN ENTRANCE LIKE YOU HAVE IN SOME OF THE REALLY COOL RESTAURANT FACILITIES AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT EFFICIENTLY.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING THAT COME OUT OF PUBLIC ROADWAY, IT NOT BE MAINTAINED BY THE PUBLIC.
WE MAINTAIN IT AND IT BECOMES AN AMENITY TO THE SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPER KIND OF SERVICE OCCURS FROM VALET SO IT IMPROVES ALL THE OPERATIONS TO THE RESTAURANTS AND TO THE RETAIL USERS, AND IT ALLOWS THE DRIVE TO BE BUILT AT THE SAME TIME.
PHASE ONE A IS SO THAT IT'S DONE WHEN THE ENGINEERING IS DONE.
SO THAT'S JUST AN ENGINEERING ISSUE.
IT IS NOT ANYTHING ABOUT TRYING TO AVOID IT.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE BUILT.
THE RESTAURANTS CAN'T EVEN FUNCTION WITHOUT IT.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IS TAKE IT OUT OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND PUT THE RESPONSIBLILITY OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THAT JUGHANDLE BACK IN WITH THE DEVELOPER, AS YOU LOOK AT IT HERE, THAT JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU AGAIN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I CHANGED DOWN IN THE RED AREA IN THE LEGEND FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY INSTEAD OF IT BEING DEDICATED TO THE CITY, CHANGING IT TO A PRIVATE DRIVE THAT THEN PUTS IT ALL ON THE OBLIGATION OF THE DEVELOPER TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THAT EFFICIENTLY, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY WANTS TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF HAVING A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE A MASS AMOUNT OF VALET PARKING AND MOVEMENT IN THAT AREA.
AS IT RELATES TO ZONING REVISION NUMBER SIX.
FUTURE PROJECT ENTRANCE PENDING TXDOT APPROVAL.
THE THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION WOULD IMPROVE OPERATIONS AND ACCESS AND MOBILITY TREMENDOUSLY.
SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT TXDOT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
IT WOULD BE OR POTENTIALLY COULD BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN TWO YEARS AS SOON AS IT'S FUNDED, AND WE WERE THE LAST PROPERTY GROUP ALONG THE ENTIRE 114 CORRIDOR, NORTH AND SOUTH FOR TXDOT TO REACH OUT TO AND GET THE APPROVAL FOR THIS.
SO THEY'VE WORKED WITH ALL THE OTHER LANDOWNERS UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR.
THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THEIR OKAY ALONG THEIRS.
WE WERE THE LAST GROUP THAT THEY HIT AND WE SAID ABSOLUTELY, WE WOULD LOVE TO PARTICIPATE AND THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE ACTUALLY SHOW IT ON THE PLAN NOW SO THAT TXDOT REALIZES THAT WHEN THEY DO THIS, THAT THERE IS ANOTHER ENTRANCE
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REQUESTED INTO HERE UP FRONT BEFORE THEY MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND RAMP REVERSALS.BASICALLY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS CURRENTLY, YOU HAVE AN EXIT RAMP RIGHT HERE, AND THIS IS THE WEAVING ONLY ALLOWED US THE ENTRANCE INTO THE PARK AT THIS LOCATION, NOT HERE BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT WEAVE ACROSS IF THE RAMP REVERSAL TAKES PLACE INSTEAD OF EXITING HERE, THIS IS HOW YOU WILL ENTER THE HIGHWAY WESTBOUND AND YOUR EXIT TO THE WESTBOUND SERVICE ROAD WILL BE BACK WHERE THE CURRENT ENTRANCE RAMP IS TO WESTBOUND 114 AND THEN IT PROVIDES FRONTAGE ALONG THIS ENTIRE AREA.
SO IT'S A GOOD THING FROM A COMMERCIAL PERSPECTIVE, ACCESSIBILITY AND NOT HAVING THAT WEAVE AND THE STATE REALIZES THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD MADE A MISTAKE ON YEARS AGO WHEN THEY SAID NO MORE ENTRANCES OFF THE SERVICE ROADS, THEY CHANGED WHERE THEY PUT IT.
NUMBER SEVEN, THIS IS JUST CHANGING THE UNIT SIZE.
WE HAD PUT THAT IT WAS A 2300 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM, BUT THAT'S A VERY LARGE LOFT FOR MANY FOLKS.
IT STILL LEAVES ALL THE NUMBER OF UNITS AT 50.
WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
IT ALLOWS US FLEXIBILITY IN THE MARKETING PLANS.
IT PROVIDES MORE FLOORPLAN OPTIONS, AND THAT BUILDING IS ALREADY APPROVED FOR OTHER USES LIKE THE PRIVATE CLUB SIMILAR TO PARK HOUSE, WHICH I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, AS WELL AS OFFICE, AND SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO CONFIGURE EACH ONE OF THE FLOORS THAT CAN ALLOW, FOR INSTANCE, OFFICE ALONG THE WESTERN END OF THE BUILDING TO BE MORE EASILY ACCOMMODATED.
STILL, THOUGH, ALLOWING FOR 50 UNITS, IT DOES NOT PACK THE NUMBER OF UNITS AT ALL.
SOMETHING THAT I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION TO, AND THIS WAS OUR ISSUE BACK WHEN THE APPROVAL WAS DONE IN NOVEMBER OF 21, THERE WAS A SPREADSHEET THAT THE DEVELOPER GAVE TO THE CITY, AND IT SHOWED THAT THE LOFTS, 50 UNITS, 2300 SQUARE FOOT EACH WAS 70,500.
IT WAS A MISCALCULATION AND A NUMBER THAT WAS INADVERTENTLY PUT IN THERE.
2300FT² TIMES 50 UNITS IS STILL 115,000FT².
IT'S INCLUDED IN THIS ONE THAT WAS 150,000FT².
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE OF 44,000FT² IN THE LOFT UNITS, YOU'RE ALMOST THE SAME AS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BACK THEN. WE'RE JUST ADDING THE HOTEL, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE IN THERE, AND WE HAD SOME LITTLE PLUSES AND MINUSES WITH THE WEDDING CHAPEL AND SOME REDUCTION IN THE RESTAURANT SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT MINIMAL, AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE NEW PLAN AND CONFIGURATION.
SO WE'RE TALKING WITH THEM ALL THE TIME.
HE IS PHYSICALLY HANDICAPPED IN A WHEELCHAIR, AND HE IS GOING TO BE WORKING WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS GREAT ACCESSIBILITY FOR EVERYBODY AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
WE DON'T WANT TO JUST MEET REGULATIONS.
WE WANT TO MAKE IT CONVENIENT AND WE WANT THIS TO BE A DEVELOPMENT FOR EVERYONE.
THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE RENDERINGS.
THIS IS STILL PHENOMENAL IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENTERTAINMENT, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I HOPE WHAT I'M COMMUNICATING IS THIS ISN'T ABOUT PULLING BACK FROM WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PROMISED.
THIS IS ABOUT MAKING WHAT WE PROMISED BETTER AND EXPANDING WHAT WE HAVE PROMISED TO DO.
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THIS IS NOT A PULLBACK AT ALL.IN FACT, JUST FROM AN AERIAL UPDATE, THESE AERIALS WERE TAKEN AS RECENTLY AS FRIDAY AND SUNDAY OF THIS WEEK, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE WORK AND THE UTILITIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE, BUT I WANT YOU TO PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION, AND THE REASON I HIGHLIGHTED IT IS WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANY OF THE MASS GRADING OR UTILITIES FOR ANY OF THE COMMERCIAL YET, BUT THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT WE WOULD DO THE RESIDENTIAL AND NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH COMMERCIAL.
THIS IS SHOWING THAT WE'RE ALREADY MASQUERADING AND PUTTING UTILITIES IN TOWARDS THE CONDO UNIT.
SO THAT IS ALREADY BEING MASS GRADED OR MASS GRADED RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT IS TAKING PLACE OUT THERE IS NOT JUST THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WE WANT TO GIVE SOME ASSURANCES THAT ADDITIONAL WORK ON THE COMMERCIAL IS ALREADY STARTING BEYOND WHAT WE WERE OBLIGATED TO DO IN THE PURPLE, AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF UP IN THE UPPER LEFT, THE LITTLE PURPLE ROADWAY IS WHAT WE WERE OBLIGATED TO DO BEFORE GIVING ANY PERMISSION ON THE RESIDENTIAL, AND WE'RE GOING WAY ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WAS REQUIRED.
MR. TERRELL, I'M SORRY. YES? WILL YOU FLIP BACK TO ONE SIDE, PLEASE.
SURE. SO, OKAY, EVERYONE SEES THE DIRT MOVING FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
YOU'RE SAYING THE CONDO PAD IS BEING WORKED ON? CORRECT. WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE COMMERCIAL? WHEN DOES THAT START GOING? HAS ANYTHING BEEN DONE ON THE REST OF THE COMMERCIAL? I'M SHOWING YOU RIGHT NOW.
SO NOW THESE ARE THE PADS ALONG WHITE CHAPEL.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THOSE.
THIS IS WHERE THE RESTAURANT PADS ARE.
WE'VE GOT LOIS ON PARTS OF IT.
WE CAN'T DISCLOSE SOME OF THEM, BUT WE ARE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS, WITH CONDO DEVELOPER FOLKS CURRENTLY AND WITH THE FOLKS OUT ON THE PAD.
WE'RE ALREADY HAVING MEETINGS AND DISCUSSING THOSE PADS AND THOSE DEVELOPMENTS NOW BECAUSE THE SOONER WE CAN BUILD IT, REMEMBER, IT DOESN'T DO THE DEVELOPER ANY GOOD TO LEAVE VACANT LAND OUT THERE CONTINUING TO PAY.
THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS IT CAN.
SO IF IT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD ON ONE OF THE OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THE HOTEL AND THEN ALSO POTENTIALLY CONSTRUCT THAT BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PARK, IF THAT ONE IS APPROVED, THAT WILL PROBABLY BE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES.
THEN IT LEVELS OFF AND THEN IT DROPS AGAIN.
SO THIS BUILDING WOULD ACTUALLY BE THREE STORIES TALL.
IT WOULD HAVE ON THE EAST SIDE, AN AT-GRADE UNDER PARK GARAGE, AND THEN THE TWO STORIES ABOVE THE PARKING GARAGE THAT THE SECOND LEVEL OF THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST LEVEL AT GRADE WITH THE PARK.
SO THE SECOND LEVEL OF THIS BUILDING OVER THE GARAGE WALKS STRAIGHT OUT INTO THE PARK.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING FAST AND FURIOUSLY ON ALL OF THOSE THINGS, AND THEN THIS PARKING GARAGE HAS TO BE THAT'S WHY WE ACTUALLY GOT RID OF THE LITTLE CHAPEL THAT'S RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE THIS PARKING GARAGE HAS TO SERVE THESE TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THIS HOTEL IN ORDER TO KEEP US FROM HAVING SURFACE PARKING.
NO ONE WANTS THE SURFACE PARKING, BUT STRUCTURED PARKING IS INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE AND HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT, AND WE HAVE TO DO IT IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THESE USERS. THEN AS YOU LOOK HERE, THAT'S MORE OF THE I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT THAT IN RED BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE JUST COVERED UP THE TREES AND SO FORTH, BUT THAT'S AS IT WRAPS AROUND, AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THIS AREA; EACH ONE OF THESE LITTLE RED ARROWS SHOWS YOU RIGHT WHERE THE PHOTOS ARE BEING TAKEN, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE TREES ARE BEING PRESERVED, ROPED OFF.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THOSE AMENITIES AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL ENTRANCE INTO THE AREA.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH AND THE RESTAURANT PADS ARE RIGHT HERE.
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THEN THIS IS THE FRONTAGE WHERE THE ROAD WOULD BE CUT IN.WE WOULD BE LOOKING THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ACCESS DRIVE HERE, AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GET THE PRE-APPROVAL SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK LATER AND GET THE SECOND ACCESS IF TXDOT APPROVES THAT ACCESS.
DO YOU MIND FLIPPING BACK TO ONE OF THE AERIALS? SURE. WHICH ONE? YEAH, RIGHT THERE. THAT'S FINE.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
IT'S VERY THOROUGH. THANK YOU.
SO YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS IS THIS CLEARING IS REALLY PURSUANT TO A CONCEPT PLAN, NOT A SITE PLAN, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY.
SO WALK ME THROUGH THE STEPS HERE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE'S INTERESTED IN THE COMMERCIAL.
EVERYONE WANTS THE COMMERCIAL TO GO.
RIGHT. EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THE TIME FRAME IS HERE.
SO YOU ALL HAVE BEEN CLEARING WHAT'S NEXT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS WITHOUT A PLAN.
SO WHAT PLAN ARE YOU FOLLOWING AS YOU DO THIS CLEARING? SO WE HAVE MEETINGS TOMORROW, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WITH ALL THE ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS TO GET THEM GOING ON THE DETAILED DESIGN.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THAT CONCEPT LEVEL.
WE KNOW GENERALLY WE CAN WE CAN DO A LOT OF THE MASS GRADING WORK ON WHAT WE HAVE AS A CONCEPT PLAN.
HOW FAR OUT ARE YOU ON THAT? DO YOU THINK? WE MEET WITH THEM TOMORROW? TO GET STARTED ON THE PLAN.
EXACTLY. SO THIS IS TO LAUNCH THEM TOMORROW.
SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR IDEAS.
WE'VE GOT THE ENGINEERS ALSO SHOWING UP TO THE SAME MEETING BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE HAND IN HAND.
NOW, SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THROUGH THE SPRING, I THINK WE'RE MOVING FASTER THAN JUST ABOUT ANYBODY I CAN I'VE EVER SEEN IN TERMS OF A DEVELOPMENT.
OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? I HAVE SEVERAL. OKAY, GO AHEAD.
SO THE BUILDING UP HERE TO THE ON THE EAST OF THE PARK IS THE ONE YOU SAY YOU MAY NOW BUILD FIRST.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THIS ONE.
YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDINGS YOU BUILD.
IF WE GOT APPROVAL, THEN HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE BUILD THE PARK AND IT'S KIND OF A TIMING AND A PHASING, IF WE BUILD THE PARK AND THOSE RESTAURANTS AND THE CONDOS AND THEN EVERYBODY'S COMING TO THE RESTAURANTS AND ENJOYING IT AND WE BUILD THE EAST BUILDING LATER.
NOW YOU'VE GOT WHAT IS AN ENTERTAINMENT AREA WITH VERY SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION.
SO IT WOULD BE OUR INTENT AND WE'D BE MOTIVATED TO TRY TO GET EVERYTHING AROUND THE PARK BUILT PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME TIME SO THAT WHEN IT'S FINISHED, YOU HAVE AN ENCLAVE THAT IS ENJOYABLE AND THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THE PARKING GARAGES OVER ON THE SOUTH EAST CAN BE BUILT LATER BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BUFFER BETWEEN THAT AREA AND THOSE ARE GOING TO THOSE AREN'T ALL GOING TO BE BUILT YEAR 1 OR 2, BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO BECAUSE THAT'S NUMBER TWO, CORRECT? THAT'S REVISION NUMBER TWO.
I'M SORRY. WHAT THAT BUILDING IS REVISION NUMBER TWO, CORRECT? YEAH. LET ME JUST BACK UP HERE.
BECAUSE BASICALLY IT SAYS IT'S FOR POTENTIAL.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE FIRST BUILDING, BUT IN THE SAME GENERAL TIMEFRAME AS EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS SURROUNDING THE PARK, AND THAT'S JUST SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE PARK CAN BE ENJOYED WITHOUT A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE.
OKAY. YOU ACTUALLY SAID THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDINGS.
SO NOT THE FIRST BUILDING, ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDINGS.
IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDINGS.
SO THAT WILL TAKE THAT PARK PLACE.
SO WE ARE GOING TO GO FROM AN 8 TO 9 ACRE PARK TO A 7 OR 8 ACRE PARK RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF THEM THAT YOU THAT YOU WANT RELEASED.
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CONTIGUOUS LOTS.SO WE HAVE TO SWITCH ONE POTENTIALLY RIGHT IN HERE.
SO WE'RE WORKING IT, BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MORE THAN FIVE.
YEAH. SO FOR ME, LIKE THE CITY DOESN'T REALLY GAIN MUCH ON THAT.
LIKE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR BIGGEST FEAR.
I JUST DON'T I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN SOUTHLAKE DOES.
THAT'S NOT THE COMMERCIAL WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE TRUE COMMERCIAL, THE RETAIL, THE RESTAURANTS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE CITY GOING TO GET IN RETURN FOR RELEASING THOSE FIVE LOTS EARLY BASED ON EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE? THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS IF YOU SIGN AN LOA BASICALLY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT AN INCENTIVE ON THIS PROPERTY THAT STARTS, YOU KNOW, THE DAYS THINGS HAPPEN.
WE START THE CLOCK. AS SOON AS WE RELEASE THOSE THOSE PERMITS.
THAT TO ME IS A QUID PRO QUO AND THE CITY GETS SOMETHING OUT OF IT.
SO I'M WILLING TO ENTERTAIN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BASICALLY, AS SOON AS YOU PULL THE AS SOON AS YOU PULL THOSE FIVE PERMITS, YOUR TAX ABATEMENT STARTS.
THE CLOCK STARTS ON YOUR TAX ABATEMENT.
I MEAN, THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
IF YOU SEE THAT IT'S DAMAGING THE CITY TO ALLOW THE FIVE.
THIS ISN'T US TELLING YOU. YOU'VE SAID THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
YOU'VE KNOWN ABOUT SAINT JUDE SINCE THE DAY ONE, AND WE'VE SAID NOTHING BUT YES, FROM THIS DAIS. WE HAVEN'T KNOWN ABOUT IT SINCE DAY ONE.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR FOREVER.
OKAY. THAT'S MY THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKE ON THIS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S DOESN'T BECOME OUR URGENCY AS FAR AS DECREASING THE SIZE ON THE LOFTS.
I JUST I DON'T SEE THE RELEVANCY BEHIND THAT.
DECREASING WHAT? THE SIZE AND THE LOFTS, TAKING IT FROM 23 TO 1600.
THAT'S WHAT YOU ASK FOR. WE GAVE IT TO YOU.
I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GIVEN A TON.
I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE WE'VE SAID YES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU GUYS GOT TO START BUILDING, AND I GUESS THEN THAT SOMEHOW THE 2300 GOING TO AN AVERAGE OF 2300 STILL WITH 50 UNITS ALLOWING SOME FLEXIBILITY IS SOMEHOW NEGATIVE IN WHAT WAY FOR THE CITY BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE SMALLER, SMALLER LOTS WHICH IF IT WAS A THEY'RE NOT SMALLER LOTS THEY'RE SMALLER UNITS.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING LOFTS, RIGHT? I'M SAYING LOFTS, AND SO THE AND THOSE WILL BE THE SMALLER LOFT IS GOING TO BE A PRICE POINT PER SQUARE FOOT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER.
IT'S GOING TO BRING MORE TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY.
I GUESS I'M NOT FOLLOWING THE LOGICAL TRAIN OF THOUGHT AS TO WHY THAT'S A BAD THING FOR THE CITY.
OKAY. MR. CHAIR, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST.
THIS TONE IS REALLY BOTHERING ME.
COUNCILMEMBER ROBBINS HAS A VOTE.
THAT'S AS FAR AS IT NEEDS TO GO.
RIGHT. SO I'M KIND OF OVER THIS PUSHBACK.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
WE HAVE OURS. SURE. SO LET'S JUST KEEP KEEP FOCUSED.
DOES ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? OKAY, MR. TERRELL, IF YOU COULD TAKE A SEAT.
THIS IS A FIRST READING, SO TECHNICALLY THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I'M GOING TO OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE A LOT OF YOU GUYS HAVE COME HERE AND YOU DESERVE TO ADDRESS YOUR YOUR YOUR GOVERNMENT AS WELL.
SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE ONE CARD THAT IS ASKING TO SPEAK AND THEN I WILL OPEN IT UP.
IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME ON DOWN.
SO FIRST IS MARY LEE ALFORD, AND AS ALWAYS, THREE MINUTE COMMENTS.
THE LIGHT YELLOW LIGHT WILL START BLINKING AT A MINUTE.
PLEASE START BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, MISS ALFORD.
GOOD EVENING. I'M MARY LEE ALFORD.
I LIVE AT 1812 SAINT PHILIP AVENUE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.
WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THESE REQUESTS AND TRUST ME, ANY TIME SOMEBODY REQUESTS A ZONING CHANGE FOR CARILLON PARC, MY STOMACH SINKS BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR.
SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THEIR ASKING FOR.
SO WE DID GO TO SPIN AND WE SAW IT AT SPIN.
I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT I DID WATCH IT ON ON DEMAND VIDEO.
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I JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WAS PRESENTED AT SPIN WAS ALSO PRESENTED AT P AND Z.ONCE THEY EXPLAINED THE REASON BEHIND EVERYTHING, WE FELT THAT THERE WAS NO REASON NOT TO APPROVE.
WE FEEL THAT GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FUNDRAISER FOR SAINT JUDE WITH JUST FIVE HOUSES, WE SEE NO REASON NOT TO DO THAT UNLESS, OF COURSE, IT KICKS IN SOME OTHER THING THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF.
SO WE ARE IN FAVOR WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
I WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM OTHER PEOPLE, JUST ONE FROM PLANNING AND ZONING, AND IT THE HOMEOWNER THAT SAID THEY'RE OPPOSED.
THEY WEREN'T OPPOSED TO ALL OF THE POINTS.
THEY WERE OPPOSED TO JUST TWO OF THE POINTS, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR REASONING BEHIND IT, IT'S BECAUSE OF SOME HISTORY THAT WE'VE HAD IN CARILLON THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUILDERS BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THIS WEEK I WAS INFORMED THAT MY OPINION IS BIASED BECAUSE I'M FINANCIALLY INCENTIVIZED BY THIS AND I WANT TO PUBLICLY STATE THAT CARL AND I DO NOT HAVE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR ME COMING TO ANY OF THESE MEETINGS, AND I AM GOING TO WATCH THE MEETINGS CAREFULLY.
IF THEY CAME AND ASKED FOR A ZONING CHANGE ON ARCHITECTURE, IF THEY CAME AND ASKED FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM MIXED USE TO INDUSTRIAL OR SOMETHING ELSE, I'D BE HERE AGAINST IT. SO THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. I'M JENNIFER KIMBLE-MCCAULEY, AREA MANAGING DIRECTOR OF SAINT JUDE.
I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO SAY A FEW THINGS.
WE ARE SO INCREDIBLY BLESSED THAT, FIRST OF ALL, THE COUNCIL IS HEARING THE CHANGES AND IS REALLY CONSIDERING THAT THESE FIVE HOUSES COULD BE STARTED A LITTLE BIT EARLY TO BE ABLE TO BENEFIT SAINT JUDE CHILDREN'S RESEARCH HOSPITAL.
WE FEEL REALLY PRIVILEGED THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY WAS BROUGHT TO US.
THESE FIVE BUILDERS WERE JUST ABLE TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE HOSPITAL WITHIN THE LAST WEEK.
THEY ARE FULLY COMMITTED, FULLY SOLD ON, AND I THINK THAT THE LEVEL OF HOME THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD AND BRING IS GOING TO BRING A LOT OF FOLKS OVER TO THIS AREA, NOT JUST TO CARILLON PARC, BUT TO SOUTHLAKE THROUGH ALL THE PUBLICITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND FOLKS THAT JUST REALLY WANT TO LAY THEIR EYES ON WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
I KNOW THERE ARE PARADE OF HOMES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT THIS REALLY IS THE FIRST FULL FUNDRAISING WHERE WE HAVE FIVE BUILDERS SOLELY DEDICATED TO PROVIDING PROCEEDS AND DOING SOME FUNDRAISING AROUND MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR HOMES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
WE REALLY DO FEEL BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THE SOUTHLAKE COMMUNITY THAT HONORS INTEGRITY AND INNOVATION AND IS REALLY FORWARD THINKING, AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL SAY YES AND THAT THIS IS A GO AND THAT, AGAIN, THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RAISE ARE ABLE TO HELP THOSE PATIENTS AND FAMILIES RIGHT HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. MR. AZIM, COME ON DOWN.
I KNOW YOU JUST DID, BUT STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
ONCE MORE. WELL, MY NAME IS FAROOQ AZIM, 151 PLAYERS CIRCLE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.
I'LL ANSWER JUST TWO QUESTIONS THAT ONE MR. MAYOR RAISED, ONE MR. RANDY RAISED. IF WE BUILD ONE LOFT FOR 1600 FEET THE NEXT SHOULD HAVE TO BE 3000FT².
SO THE AREA OF BOTH TOGETHER WILL BE 20 300FT².
IF YOU HAVE ALL 2300FT, THAT WAS LIKE AN OVERSIGHT.
WHEN YOU HAVE A FLOORPLAN, YOU CANNOT PUT EVERYTHING 2300.
EXACT, AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE SOME DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF FLOORPLANS AND ALL.
SO THAT WAS JUST ONE REASON, BUT THE AREA STAYS SAME 115,000.
SECOND IS MAYOR ASKED ABOUT WHY DID NOT WE DO THE WHOLE COMMERCIAL MASS GRADING? WE WANTED TO DO IT, BUT THE CITY DID NOT ALLOW US TO DO IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE APPROVED ENGINEERING PLAN FOR THE WHOLE AREA.
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SO WE WOULD HAVE PROTECTED ALL THE TREES AND DONE IT ALL IN ONE GO, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO EXCEED OUR MANDATE THAT WAS ALLOWED BY APPROVED PERMITS, WHAT WE COULD DO, WHAT WE COULD NOT DO.SO THESE ARE THE TWO THINGS I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER.
THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. I'M GOING TO READ THESE COMMENT CARDS INTO THE RECORD.
CARL ALFORD AT 1812, SAINT PHILIP AVENUE DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORD MY SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM AND JULIE WALTER FROM 612 PARK PLACE COURT, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD THEIR SUPPORT.
LAST CALL. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS AT THIS POINT? OKAY WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COUNCIL I WANT TO TALK THROUGH.
DENNIS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE PULL UP THE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS ALL 7 OR 8 OF THE ZONING REQUESTS, AND WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD, WHAT YOU'RE FEELING, WHAT YOU'RE THINKING AS FAR AS THE INDIVIDUAL ZONING REQUESTS, IF THERE ARE ANY YOU CAN GET BEHIND, AND THEN WE CAN TALK THROUGH HOW TO PROCEED ON A MOTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER HOLD ON THIS SLIDE.
COULD YOU GO TO THE SLIDE WITH THE SEVEN ZONING REQUESTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, PLEASE? SORRY, I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT.
SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.
GO AHEAD. YOU'RE FINE. BEAR WITH ME.
I JUST ACCIDENTALLY HIT THE WRONG PRESENTATION.
YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE APPLICANT SLIDE, CORRECT? YEAH, JUST JUST THE DIFFERENT ZONING CHANGES THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.
I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE PLAYING JEOPARDY MUSIC OR SOMETHING.
IT'S VERY QUIET. [CHUCKLING] THANK YOU, SIR.
ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.
SO I ECHO FIRST OF ALL, I'M INCREDIBLY OPEN MINDED.
I MEAN, THIS I THINK WE ALL LOVE AND ARE OVERWHELMINGLY, FOR THE MOST PART, BEHIND THIS DEVELOPMENT COMING TO FRUITION IN SOME FACSIMILE OF WHAT WE'VE APPROVED.
WHEN I SEE THIS MANY, OBVIOUSLY, IT GIVES ME SOME INDIGESTION, BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T HAVE A GREAT DEGREE OF OF INDIGESTION ABOUT A COUPLE OF THEM.
THE PROBLEM TO ME BECOMES THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE HOUSES, WHY NOT ONE HOUSE? WHY NOT 12 HOUSES? I CAN'T GET PAST THAT.
I DON'T LIKE THE PARK BEING SHRUNK, BUT, I MEAN, I COULD SEE A BEAUTIFUL FOUNTAIN GOING THERE.
I JUST HAVEN'T HAD IN THIS DISCUSSION WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR.
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS I WANTED A LEVEL OF COMFORT.
I WANTED TO FEEL A LEVEL OF COMFORT FOR GIVING FIVE HOUSES WHEN WE'VE BEEN ASSURED THAT THERE WILL BE NO RESIDENTIAL BEFORE COMMERCIAL, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD A JUSTIFICATION YET FOR WHY WE WOULD WE WOULD PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.
YEAH I WILL JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH THESE, GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS ON EACH ONE.
YOU HAPPEN TO BE CAUGHT UP IN THE UGLY WORLD OF DEVELOPMENT, AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE SAINT JUDE TIE, I'M PROBABLY NOT EVEN HAVING THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE HAD AN AGREEMENT.
IT'S A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.
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IF THIS IS GRANTED, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR BALANCE.I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO NUMBER TWO, ALONG WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH SAID IT DOES, I GOT A QUICK GLIMPSE OF THAT RENDERING THAT MR. TERRELL SHARED OF THE VIEW INTO THE PARK WHEN THAT BUILDING IS BUILT THERE AND IT DOES IT KIND OF CRUSHES YOUR PARK, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE SIZE OVERALL BY HAVING THAT THERE.
SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD CONSIDER AT SOME POINT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT THAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT WITH NUMBER THREE AGAIN, THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT ONE, BUT NOT A LOT OF INTEREST THERE. NUMBER FOUR, I GUESS THE MAIN QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS JUST AND MAYBE THE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN.
I UNDERSTAND BIG PROJECTS, THINGS HAPPEN, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS.
I MEAN, HOW DO WE NOT KNOW WE NEED A RETENTION POND? JUST FROM BASIC ENGINEERING, EVEN ON A CONCEPT, PLAN IT TO ME I FEEL THAT PRESSURE ALMOST OF OF AS WE'VE ALL SAT HERE MANY TIMES AND MR. TERRELL HAS WHERE AN APPLICANT HAS A SIGN THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT AND THEN THEY FIND OUT, OH, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TO COUNCIL AND GET THAT APPROVED, AND THEN WE FEEL THAT PRESSURE OF, WELL, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? TELL THEM TO KNOCK THE SIGN DOWN? I MEAN, IT WASN'T OUR FAULT.
I DON'T BLAME ANYBODY FOR NOT HAVING THE KNOWLEDGE ON THE DETENTION OR RETENTION POND, BUT IT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN KNOWN IN BASIC DESIGN RATHER THAN IT CRUNCHING INTO THE PARK ALONG WITH A POTENTIAL OTHER BUILDING.
I'D BE OPEN TO THE CONSIDERATION.
PERHAPS THAT'S TIED TO A CO OF ANY COMMERCIAL THAT'S THERE THAT THE ROAD HAS TO BE CONSTRUCTED BEFORE A CO AND THEN YOU KNOW FOR CERTAIN BECAUSE AS MR. TERRELL REPRESENTED, YOU REALLY WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE THOSE BUSINESSES WITH PEOPLE COMING INTO THEM, WALKING INTO THEM WITHOUT A ROADWAY.
SO YOU COULD TIE A CO TO THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.
SIX IS A NO BRAINER, AND YEAH, I JUST CAN'T GET BEHIND.
NUMBER SEVEN I'M I UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE PRICE GOING UP AS YOU GET SMALLER BUT I DON'T BELIEVE FOR A MOMENT I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO BUY A 1600 SQUARE FOOT LOFT LESS THAN A 2300 SQUARE FOOT LOFT, AND THE PRICE IS GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE A LOWER PRICE ENTRY, IN MY OPINION.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I STAND.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER TORRES-LEPP.
OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE, JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMSON DID.
NUMBER ONE, I ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENT.
I, OF COURSE, LIKE EVERYONE UP HERE.
SAINT JUDE'S PULLS AT YOUR HEART STRINGS.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT AND TALKED ABOUT IT AND TALKED ABOUT IT AND IT.
WE'VE GOT OUR EMAIL INBOX FLOODED WITH RESIDENTS FURIOUS THAT WE'RE EVEN CONSIDERING THIS AND I SEE WHY.
THAT SAID, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIVE LOCAL BUILDERS IN SAINT JUDE'S.
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING PREVENTS THEM FROM MOVING FORWARD AND DONATING PROCEEDS TO SAINT JUDE'S IN TWO YEARS OR IN A YEAR OR WHEN IT'S TIME, BUT TO GO THROUGH AND APPROVE FIVE LOTS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE IN SOME HURRY TO DONATE AND BE A PART OF SAINT JUDE'S.
I JUST ALSO HAVE SERIOUS HEARTBURN ABOUT THIS BEING ADVERTISED AND TALKED ABOUT.
I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT THROUGH THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS ARTICLE.
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED BEFORE.
THERE'S MEDIA CAMPAIGNS AND WE ALL ARE FINDING OUT ABOUT IT IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND IN THE NEWS.
SO IT'S JUST REALLY PROBLEMATIC FOR ME ALL THE WAY AROUND, EVEN THOUGH MY HEART IS FOR THE LOCAL PEOPLE IN SAINT JUDE'S NUMBER TWO, THAT JUST SEEMS TOO BIG OF A FOOTPRINT, COMPLETELY CHOPS THE PARK AWAY.
SO I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW WE'RE CALLING IT 7 OR 8 ACRES, BUT NUMBER THREE, THE WORDING THERE IS CONCERNING TO ME. SO WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST THE OPTION TO COMBINE THE TWO BUILDINGS INTO ONE BUILDING, ALLOWING FOR A POTENTIAL UNDERGROUND PARKING.
SO IS THAT THE REASON? ARE WE FOR SURE DOING UNDERGROUND PARKING OTHERWISE? I SEE NO REASON TO DO THAT.
NUMBER FOUR SAME COMMENT AS NUMBER TWO.
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IT JUST IT JUST CUTS INTO THE PARK, AND I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMSON.I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD KNOW THIS.
IF IT'S PRETTY AND IT ADDS SOMETHING TO THE TO THE PROJECT, BUT I REALLY DO.
I DON'T THINK MY HEAD IS AROUND SAYING YES ON THAT TONIGHT.
YOUR IDEA, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMSON ON TYING THE RIGHT OF WAY TO A CO THAT ONE, FIVE AND SIX SEEM TO MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO ME OUT OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT.
YES WE'RE GOING TO NEED VALET FOR THESE RESTAURANTS.
I MEAN, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
CAN WE FIGURE THAT OUT RIGHT HERE TONIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. SIX IS A NO BRAINER.
JUST I ASSUME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DECELERATION LANE.
SEVEN I ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM GOING DOWN TO 1600 SQUARE FEET.
AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, THIS COMMUNITY HAS A HOT BUTTON FOR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND TAKING UNITS EVEN SMALLER THAN WHAT WE AGREED TO AT A MINIMUM OF 2300 DOWN TO 1600, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S AN AVERAGE.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
SO MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME THAT ARE 2000 OR 2100 AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME THAT ARE 3200 OR 3300, BUT SOME AT 1600 JUST SEEMS WAY TOO SMALL FOR FOR MY LIKING.
TORRES-LEPP. COUNCIL MEMBER TALLEY.
I DID A LOT OF HOMEWORK. I WATCHED A LOT OF VIDEO FROM 2021 AND I'LL REFERENCE SOME OF THAT WHEN I GO THROUGH THIS, AND YOU KNOW, I HOPE, JOHN, NUMBER ONE, I HOPE YOU WERE JUST KIND OF MAYBE A LITTLE UPSET WHEN YOU MADE THAT COMMENT. WE ARE ALL SUPPORTIVE OF SAINT JUDE.
I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO WOULDN'T BE SO BUT THIS ISN'T ABOUT THAT.
IT'S ABOUT WHEN I WENT BACK THROUGH AND WATCHED NOVEMBER 2ND OF 2021 AND DECEMBER 7TH OF 2021, A HUGE, HUGE, HUGE PIECE OF WHAT WE APPROVED AND AGREED TO WAS NO RESIDENTIAL BEFORE THE COMMERCIAL.
SO I AM NOT GOING TO WAVER ON THAT.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE FOR CHANGING THAT ON NUMBER TWO.
YEAH, I AGREE WITH PREVIOUS COMMENTS.
IT CUTS INTO THE PARK IN NOVEMBER OF 21, WE WERE GOING TO BE GIVEN 12 ACRES OF PARK.
THAT GOT REDUCED OVER TIME AND NOW WE'RE BEING AGAIN ASKED TO REDUCE IT EVEN FURTHER.
THE PARK BELONGS TO OUR RESIDENTS, IT BELONGS TO THE CITY.
I THINK THAT'S HUGELY IMPORTANT AND I AM NOT FOR MAKING THAT ANY SMALLER AT THIS JUNCTURE.
I GUESS ON NUMBER THREE PERHAPS, BUT I'M JUST AS A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TOO MANY THINGS THAT I THAT I HAVE ISSUES WITH ON NUMBER FOUR.
AGAIN, TO REPEAT WHAT'S BEEN SAID, IT'S JUST ONE MORE THING THAT CUTS INTO THE PARK, AND YES, I FIND MYSELF WONDERING WHY THIS DETENTION RETENTION POND WASN'T BROUGHT UP IN 2021 OR SINCE THEN.
SO AND THAT ALONG WITH THE OTHER BUILDING, JUST REALLY CUT INTO THE BUILDING, REALLY JUST CHOPS UP THE PARKLAND ON NUMBER FIVE MAYBE.
I JUST AGAIN, TAKEN AS A WHOLE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S A LOT.
NUMBER SIX I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT, DENNIS, ON NUMBER SIX.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO APPROVE TONIGHT OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE IF IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED DOWN THE ROAD AS THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES FORWARD, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AT A LATER DATE? IT COULD BE CONSIDERED A LIGHTER DATE, FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE SITE PLAN CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE THINGS LIKE THIS, I WOULD IMAGINE, SOMETIMES COME UP WITH LARGER DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS.
THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE IF.
OKAY AND THEN NUMBER SEVEN, AGAIN, HARKENING BACK TO 2021 AND ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS, THAT SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM WAS A PRETTY BIG PART OF OUR APPROVAL IN THAT PROCESS AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE WILLING TO WAVER ON THAT EITHER.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ROBBINS.
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COULD I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? SO THE TIME CONSTRAINT OR THE OR THE URGENCY FOR THE SAINT JUDE PIECE BECAUSE EVERYONE UP HERE WANTS TO SUPPORT SAINT JUDE.IS THAT SET BY [INAUDIBLE]? I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER IT IF IT'S TERRIBLE OR IS THAT IS THAT SET BY SAINT JUDE? IS IT SET BY YOU? I MEAN, WHO SET THE DATE THAT THESE HOUSES HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED BY? THAT'S ACTUALLY SET BY SAINT JUDE, BUT THIS IS A BRAND NEW PROGRAM THAT YOU BROUGHT TO THEM.
THEY SAID, RIGHT. THIS WAS A PARTNERSHIP.
THE DEVELOPER WASN'T REALLY A BIG PART OF IT TO BEGIN WITH.
IT WAS THE FIVE DEVELOPER HOME DEVELOPERS AND SAINT JUDE WHO CAME TOGETHER, AND JUST A REMINDER TO THAT, I KNOW THAT THE CONCERN IS COMMERCIAL BEFORE RESIDENTIAL.
JUST AS A REMINDER, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS ALMOST DONE.
WE HAD TO PUT IN ALL THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE HAD TO PUT IN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT HERE IN ORDER TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL THAT'S ALMOST COMPLETE.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO START COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS TO START THIS.
IT ONLY GIVES US ABOUT A THREE MONTH WINDOW BEFORE IN ADVANCE BEFORE WE HAVE AUTOMATIC AUTHORITY TO DO IT. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED TO BUILD THESE.
AS SOON AS WE FINISH AND ACCEPT THE CITY ACCEPTS THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS ABOUT A THREE MONTH ADVANCE TO MOVE THESE BUILDINGS AND I THINK YOU CAN TELL THIS WORK IS CLOSE.
THE PROBLEM IS THEY HAVE TO START THESE HOMES BY NOVEMBER IN ORDER TO GET THE THING BUILT FOR THE THING IN THE FALL OF '24.
IF THEY WAIT UNTIL WE'RE FINISHED WITH THIS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE US ABOUT 2 TO 3 MONTHS LONGER THAN WHAT THEIR DEADLINE IS TO GET THESE HOMES BUILT.
THEY PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE FINISHED WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE UNTIL JANUARY.
THAT'S MY QUESTION. WHOSE DEADLINE? THAT'S THE TIMING FOR THEIR ANNUAL DEAL IS IN THE FALL.
THEY'VE NEVER DONE THIS PROGRAM BEFORE, CORRECT? IT'S A BRAND NEW PROGRAM, SO IT COULD BE A SPRING PROGRAM.
I THINK THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING RELATED TO THIS.
THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPER TIMING.
I'M NOT GOING TO REITERATE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS ALREADY SAID.
I AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT THIS PROPERTY HAS A LONG HISTORY.
GOING BACK TO THE HINES DEVELOPMENT GROUP, WHICH BUILT MOST, IF NOT ALL, THE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S ALREADY THERE, BUT JUST FAILED TO DELIVER THE COMMERCIAL PART THAT THE RESIDENTS BOUGHT INTO.
THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL WHEN THIS WAS ALL ZONED WAY BACK WHEN, AND IT PREDATES JOHN AND RANDY AND I, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, COUNCILS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY CAREFUL AND MINDFUL OF THIS COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL PIECE, AND THAT'S YOU'RE HEARING A LOT OF THAT TONIGHT, AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY THERE.
WE HAVE APPROVED A LOT OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THIS.
NUMBER ONE, WITH THE ALLOWING THE RESIDENTIAL TO PROCEED BEFORE THE COMMERCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS DONE, THAT'S A DEAL BREAKER AND I'LL HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE OF THAT. THE RESIDENTIAL LOFTS DECREASE IN THE SIZE.
IT PROBABLY WAS A DEAL BREAKER WHEN IT WAS PUT IN A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
THE LOSING PART OF THE PUBLIC PARK, ANOTHER DEAL BREAKER AS FAR AS MAYBE NUMBERS FOUR AND FIVE, AND I MIGHT WANT TO CONFER WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY ON THAT. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW TO PIECEMEAL THIS TOGETHER, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S PROBABLY SOME SUPPORT OR NOT OPPOSITION ON NUMBER FIVE FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY OR THE TXDOT FUTURE ENTRANCE MIGHT NEED SOME GUIDANCE ON HOW TO CRAFT A MOTION IN THAT REGARD, AND MAYBE WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW OR MAYBE WE'RE NOT, BUT I MIGHT NEED SOME
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GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON HOW TO DO THAT IF IT'S GOING TO BE A PART.YES, PART NO, BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
BEFORE I SPEAK I DO WANT TO ASK ON NUMBER FIVE, DENNIS, A QUESTION FOR YOU AND THEN WILL YOU PUT THAT SLIDE UP? THE OTHER SLIDE THAT WE WENT OVER WITH ALL THE APPROVALS? WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT? WELL, THIS IS MORE DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL.
MY CONCERN WITH NUMBER FIVE IS I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EFFECT OF TRANSITIONING THIS TO A PRIVATE RIGHT OF WAY IS, AND IF DENNIS, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH IS AN ENCYCLOPEDIA, AS IS CITY ATTORNEY ALAN TAYLOR.
SO IF THEY CAN REALLY QUICKLY ADVISE US AS TO THE LEGAL EFFECT OF MOVING THIS RIGHT AWAY AND THE DEVELOPMENT EFFECT, MOVING THIS RIGHT AWAY FROM PUBLIC TO PRIVATE, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED WE HAVEN'T REALLY CHEWED THAT ONE THROUGH.
NOW, WOULD I BE I MEAN, IF THAT CAME LATER ON DOWN THE LINE WITH A SITE PLAN OR SOMETHING? I MEAN, COULD THAT BE RAISED LATER AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE OR IS THAT A ZONING ISSUE? RIGHT NOW, IT'S INCLUDED AS THE PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION.
THEY'VE AGREED IN ORDER TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY AS TO WHERE THAT PAVING ACTUALLY GETS CONSTRUCTED AHEAD OF THE RESTAURANT PADS AND THE PARK DEVELOPMENT. THEY'VE AGREED TO ESCROW THAT AMOUNT, BUT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE THAT RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT IT IS A PUBLIC STREET, BUT THEY DO THAT. CAN THEY DO THAT [INAUDIBLE]? EXCUSE ME? CAN THEY DO THAT AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN AND THE RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION OR NO? UH, THAT IS A FUNCTION OF THE, THE PLATTING OF THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS RIGHT OF WAY ALLOCATION.
WITH ZONING RIGHT NOW, IT'S ZONED AS A PUBLIC PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS TO BE PUT IN PLACE.
IF THEY TO CHANGE IT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE THROUGH THE ZONING RIGHT, AND IT COULD BE DONE AS A PRIVATE STREET, FULLY CONSTRUCTED TO A STREET STANDARD OR A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY, AND ALLOW THE LOTS TO FRONT ON JUST A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY OR COMMON ACCESS EASEMENT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT JUGHANDLE RIGHT? YEAH. SO MY QUESTION IS, IF WE LEAVE IT A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THEY CAN COME AND DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY LATER AT A LATER DATE.
THAT WON'T REQUIRE A ZONING CHANGE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.
SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH NUMBER FIVE.
NUMBER FIVE, THE ONLY REASON NUMBER FIVE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE ONLY REASON NUMBER FIVE IS TRIGGERING A ZONING CHANGE IS BECAUSE IT'S GOING FROM PUBLIC TO PRIVATE, BUT IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN, WE CAN JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND THEY DEDICATE A RIGHT OF WAY.
LATER WITHOUT A ZONING ACTION, CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT, AND IF THEY DEDICATED IT, THE PLANNING STAGE IS PART OF THEIR PLAT FILINGS.
THE COUNCIL IN ITS HISTORY HAS ON OCCASIONS VACATED RIGHTS OF WAY AND CONVERTED THINGS TO PRIVATE.
SO THAT COULD THAT COULD OCCUR LATER.
IT CAN BE FIXED AT A LATER POINT.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO DEDICATE THAT.
IF THERE'S SOME COMPELLING REASON TO CHANGE IT TO PRIVATE, WE CAN DO THAT LATER.
SO I ASKED DIRECTOR KILLOUGH TO PUT TOGETHER THIS SLIDE BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, I WAS CURIOUS.
SECOND OF ALL, I WANTED TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR BECAUSE THERE IS A NARRATIVE THAT IS CREATED WHEN WE DIG INTO CARILLON PARC SPECIFICALLY, THAT IF WE DON'T SAY YES TO EVERYTHING, WE'RE SOMEHOW NOT SUPPORTIVE.
SO I WANTED TO PUT THIS SLIDE UP AND HOPEFULLY IT MAKES IT INTO THE VIDEO SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.
I MEAN, JUST SINCE I'VE BEEN MAYOR IN MAY OF '21, WE'VE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT ACTIONS BETWEEN ZONING ACTIONS AND P&Z APPROVALS AND PLATTING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
YOU WON'T FIND A COUNCIL THAT IS MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.
WE ALL WERE PROUD TO STAND AT GROUNDBREAKING AND EXCITED THAT DIRT WAS MOVING.
I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT AT THIS POINT.
WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE ALL THE TAXPAYERS AND ALL THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTHLAKE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE DEAL NEEDS TO GET BUILT.
MY PERSPECTIVE IS THE DEAL NEEDS TO GET BUILT.
SO IS THERE A WAY TO REMOVE FIVE AND SIX FROM THIS? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON FIVE UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE A BURNING DESIRE TO MAKE IT A PRIVATE RIGHT OF WAY.
GOT IT. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
ONE MORE QUESTION ON NUMBER SIX.
SO IF THAT COMES LATER IN TEXT GIVES APPROVAL.
DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A ZONING ACTION TO CREATE THAT DRIVE? I DO NOT, NO, I DON'T THINK YOU DO.
OKAY. SO THAT COULD BE DONE AS PART OF A SITE PLAN? YES. SO? SO NUMBER FIVE, AND NUMBER SIX, WE CAN HANDLE AS PART OF A SITE PLAN.
SO THERE'S NO NEED TO NO NEED TO TABLE THAT OR ANYTHING.
COME ON UP. JUST REAL QUICK, AND THIS COULD BE A POTENTIAL QUESTION FOR THE.
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CITY ATTORNEY, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT MAKING THIS PRIVATE WAS THE DIFFICULTY THAT WE WERE HAVING IN TERMS OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND WITH ONE OF THE OTHER ATTORNEYS WORKING FOR THE CITY, AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE PLATTING AND IF THERE IS A WAY. HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS IF WE PLAT THIS IT THEN PUTS THIS SPECIFIC DESCRIPTION AS PARK.IF THIS CHANGES, AND THEN THE PARK BOUNDARIES SLIGHTLY CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE ENGINEERING.
IT PUTS US AND THE CITY IN A DIFFICULT POSITION WITH WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH PARKLAND AFTER IT'S DEDICATED BY PLAT, AND SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT BECAUSE THIS WAS OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF AS A SOLUTION TO HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK AND TAKE IT OFF THE SHOULDERS OF THE CITY, BUT IF THIS ENDS UP.
WHAT POSITION DOES THAT PUT US INTO IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PARK AND CAN YOU MODIFY THE PARK AFTER IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED? THAT'S OUR QUESTION BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF A LOT OF THIS.
SO WOULDN'T YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE IF IT'S PRIVATE RIGHT OF WAY? NO, BECAUSE THEN THAT IF THAT'S PRIVATE RIGHT OF WAY, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO ANYTHING IN TERMS UNTIL THIS IS BUILT DEDICATING THIS PARK.
GOTCHA. ALAN, DO YOU MIND OPINING ON THAT? I THINK THERE ARE GOING TO BE WAYS TO ADDRESS THAT.
I'M SURE DEAN IS CONCERNED ABOUT BEING SURE THAT IT'S CONTAINED IN THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION PLANNING INSTRUMENT, BUT THE PROPERTY COULD BE IDENTIFIED ON THE PLAT AS PROSPECTIVE FUTURE PARK PROPERTY WITH A RESERVATION OF USE TO PROHIBIT ANY USE OTHER THAN PARKLAND UNLESS A RELEASE BY THE CITY IS ISSUED.
THERE'S PROBABLY A WAY TO WORK AROUND THAT PARTICULAR CONCERN IF THAT'S THE ISSUE.
OKAY. WILL YOU JUST WORK WITH MR. TERRELL AND THE DEVELOPERS TO TRY TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT LIKE THAT.
WE JUST WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
YES, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.
OKAY, COUNCIL, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CARILLON PARC, AND THAT'S A MOTION TO DENY.
SO A YES VOTE IS TO DENY WE HAVE A MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
MOTION [INAUDIBLE] GRANTED, SEVEN ZERO AND SEVEN A IS THE LAST ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.