5. Consider: Approval of the minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held on November 9, 2023.

[6. Withdraw: ZA23-0066, Plat Revision for Lots 7R and 8R, Block 4, Harbor Oaks Addition, being a revision of Lots 7 and 8, Block 4, Harbor Oaks Addition, an addition to the City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 1100 and 1110 Harbor Retreat St., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "SF-1A" Single Family District. SPIN Neighborhood #2 PUBLIC HEARING (Withdrawn by Applicant)]

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A ITEM THAT'S BEING WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.

IT'S ZA 23-0066.

BUT I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WAS HERE FOR THIS ITEM, AND I'D BE WILLING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS, IT'S UP TO YOU. HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? COME ON UP TO THE MAIN PODIUM HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU ON TV AND MAKE YOU A ROCK STAR.

IF YOU WOULD DO ME A FAVOR AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS DENNIS WALSH, AND MY ADDRESS IS 1115 HARBOR HAVEN.

DIRECTLY BEHIND THE THE PROPERTY THAT'S, ITEM SIX ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT. ANY CONCERNS COMMENTS.

AS I SAID, THIS ONE'S BEING WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT, SO WE WON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO ACT ON ANYTHING TONIGHT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SHARE YOUR COMMENTS.

I THINK THAT, I THINK MY WIFE CALLED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO INQUIRE ABOUT THIS, AND I THINK SHE SAID OR SHE WAS TOLD THAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN AND THEN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL HAD BEEN ISSUED.

AND FRANKLY, I WASN'T QUITE SURE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS MOVING THE PROPERTY LINES OR WHAT THE MATTER WAS INVOLVED. ALL WE GOT A NOTICE AND SO WE'RE HERE.

A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS THAT HAVE COME UP WHEN WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS, EITHER WITH THE APPLICANT OR OTHER MEMBERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IS THAT, THEY HAD MADE CLAIM THAT THEY OWNED ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE LAKE.

SO I PULLED UP THE THE J3, JP3 PLANNING.

ON LOT AND I'D PROBABLY LIKE TO ENTER THAT INTO THE RECORD.

IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THAT THERE'S A PROPERTY CALLED 3200 LAKE AVE, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

THE OTHER CONCERN.

[INAUDIBLE] CERTAINLY. YEAH.

YEAH. VERY GOOD.

YEAH. VERY GOOD. YEAH.

SO THAT PROPERTY ABUTS THEM ON THE REAR AND THEN THEIR PROPERTY GOES J UST PAST THAT LITTLE TRIANGULAR BOTTOM SECTION THERE.

THE CONCERN WE HAVE IS THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE RECORDS OF THE GRAPEVINE LAKE, GUIDELINES FOR PROPERTY THAT IS ADJACENT TO PUBLIC LAND.

AND THERE'S A LOT I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE PERMITTED AND NOT PERMITTED IS CUTTING DOWN TREES.

AND THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ACTIVITY GOING ON.

SO WE WANT TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THE INTENT OR WAS THERE GOING TO BE CLEARING ON THAT PUBLIC PROPERTY.

AND ALSO WE'VE HAD SOME CONCERN.

THERE'S BEEN FIRES BACK BEHIND THERE.

I KNOW KIDS LIKE TO GO OUT AND HAVE LITTLE FIRES, BUT IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT FIRES AREN'T ALLOWED ON THAT PROPERTY, GOVERNMENT PROPERTY.

SO LARGELY WE'RE HERE JUST TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THE MAYBE MOVING OF THE PROPERTY LINES LONG TERM AND WHAT THE

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ADJACENT THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL WAS IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT.

RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SURE. THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD.

SO, GENERALLY SPEAKING, AND I'LL DEFER TO DIRECTOR KILLOUGH, BUT IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHERE HE COULD SPEAK WITH YOU, IN PRIVATE BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. I'LL DEFER TO HIM.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING WE'RE NOT ACTING ON THE ITEM TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY TOOK OUT THE ITEMS THAT WOULD REQUIRE OUR APPROVAL.

AND UNDER THE STATUTES AND THE ORDINANCES FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, THEY'VE MADE CHANGES THAT ALLOW DIRECTOR KILLOUGH AND HIS STAFF TO TAKE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

BUT HE COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT.

CERTAINLY. WAS THERE A CHANGE IN THE PROPERTY LINES? THEY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY RESUBMITTED THE NEW PLAT, BUT THEY HAVE STATED TO US THAT BASED ON WHAT THEY WERE INITIALLY PROPOSING, THAT REQUIRED THIS TYPE OF PLANT TO BE PROCESSED, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO ALTER THAT AND MEET THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS TO WHERE THEY DO NOT REQUIRE THE VARIANCES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE PREVIOUSLY REQUIRED.

AND FROM THAT STANDPOINT, IF THEY RESUBMIT THAT TYPE OF AN APPLICATION, MEET ALL THOSE STANDARDS, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO APPROVE IT.

I UNDERSTAND, AND I'M HAPPY TO AT SOME POINT EITHER HAVE YOU ALL COME BY OUR OFFICE AND I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT THEY'VE CONVEYED TO US THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING, AND SHOW YOU WHERE THEY'VE INDICATED THOSE BOUNDARIES WOULD BE, OR LIKEWISE, WHENEVER THEY SUBMIT THE PLAT.

I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU AND LET YOU LOOK AT THAT AND EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

CERTAINLY WE'LL COME BY AND VISIT.

AND AGAIN, AS EITHER REPRESENTING A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND A FRIEND OF THE GOVERNMENT, THE TREE CLEARING THERE WOULD BE VERY PROBLEMATIC.

THE BACK OF OUR LOT HAS 200FT OF TREE LINE, AND THEY DO AS WELL TOWARDS.

I KNOW THAT ANOTHER PROPERTY SOMEBODY CLEARED ALL THE WAY TO THE LAKE, AND THEY GOT A SLAP ON THE WRIST FOR IT, ABOUT A $10,000 FINE.

AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.

SURE. EROSION, FIRE CONCERNS AND THAT DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS.

VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO MEET WITH DIRECTOR KILLOUGH.

AND, THEY CAN POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WHEN THEY DO GET THAT SUBMITTAL IN.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA.

SEEING NO ONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS JUST A WITHDRAWAL BY THE APPLICANT.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO GO AND HAVE A MOTION AND VOTE ON ACCEPTING THE APPLICANT'S WITHDRAWAL.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR WITHDRAWAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA, ZA23-0066. I HAVE A MOTION DO I HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND. DENNIS, YOU GOOD WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX ZERO.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ZA23-0035.

[7. Consider: ZA23-0035, Zoning Change and Concept Plan for 1390 Brown Lane located on property described as Tract 1 G, John Heirs Childress Survey Abstract No. 253, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 1390 Brown Lane, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "AG" Agricultural District. Requested Zoning: "SF-1A" Single Family Residential District. SPIN Neighborhood #5. (This item was tabled at the August 3, 2023, August 17, 2023, September 7, 2023, September 21, 2023, October 5, 2023, October 19, 2023, and November 9, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission meetings.) PUBLIC HEARING]

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CHANGE OF ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL TO SF 1A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, FOR JUST APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES AT 1390 BROWN LANE.

THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IT IS JUST SOUTH OF RANDOL MILL AVENUE AND EAST OF FM 1938 RANDOL MILL.

CURRENT ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THIS IS A PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN THEY'VE SUBMITTED WITH THE APPROXIMATE HOME DESIGN THEY WOULD EVENTUALLY BE PURSUING PERMIT ON.

THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR STREET FRONTAGE REQUIRED BY THE CITY'S SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. THIS PROPERTY IS A PART OF AN UNRECORDED SUBDIVISION THAT'S WAS DONE PRIOR TO BEING SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, AND IS SERVED BY A PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT, WHICH IS DESIGNATED AS BROWN LANE.

THIS IS SOME PHOTOS OF BROWN LANE AT THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.

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NOTIFICATIONS THAT WERE SENT OUT.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES FROM ANY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 300 FOOT NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH? THANK YOU, DENNIS. THANK YOU.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? YES, SIR. YOU WANT TO COME ON DOWN FOR A SECOND? WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

IF YOU WOULD DO ME A FAVOR AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS JOE MARTIN.

I CURRENTLY RESIDE AT 409 LONESOME PRAIRIE TRAIL IN HASLET, TEXAS.

I AM THE CURRENT, BUILDER, UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE CLIENT.

SO. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT IN WORK SESSION, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I COMPLETELY FOLLOWED.

WHAT SIZE HOUSE IS THIS GOING TO BE? THE APPROXIMATE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 8500FT².

AND SO IT WILL REQUIRE, SPRINKLERS.

YES, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT UNDER THE PLAN.

ALL RIGHT. AND IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE STUDY SHOWED THAT THE EXISTING TWO INCH LINE IS SUFFICIENT.

YES, SIR. YEAH.

WE WERE PREPARED TO POSSIBLY TRY TO REROUTE ANOTHER, WATER LINE FROM A DIFFERENT AREA, BUT IT ENDED UP BEING ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET AN EASEMENT THROUGH EXISTING PROPERTIES TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO WE HAD AN INDEPENDENT STUDY DONE BY OUR SUPPRESSION COMPANY, AND THEY THEY BASICALLY SAID THAT THAT TWO INCH IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE FOR SUPPRESSION AND THE DOMESTIC LINE TO, TAKE CARE OF THE RESIDENTS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES. SO THE STUDY WAS SPECIFIC TO THE SITE BEING BUILT.

IT DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE OTHER USERS OF THAT SAME LINE? IT DID. I THINK THERE'S ONE, TWO, THREE.

I BELIEVE THERE'S SIX RESIDENCES CURRENTLY TIED INTO THAT TWO INCH LINE THAT RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH ON BROWN LANE.

AND YES, ALL THAT WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

WHO DID THE STUDY? RESCOM. THEY PROVIDED A LETTER TO THE CITY AS WELL.

I MEAN, WE COULD PULL IT UP, BUT.

WELL, ADEQUATE AS FAR AS FIRE, PROTECTION OR JUST GENERAL USE OF WATER OR BOTH? EVERYTHING. BOTH.

WE'RE ALSO HAVE PLANS TO PUT IN A PRIVATE WATER WELL FOR IRRIGATION PURPOSES ONLY, BUT THE TWO INCH WAS ADEQUATE FOR DOMESTIC AND FIRE SUPPRESSION. YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT MANY OF THESE HOMES AROUND HERE, ESPECIALLY THE LARGER LOTS, WHEN THEY SELL, THEY OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, RENOVATE OR TEAR DOWN AND DO SOMETHING MUCH LARGER.

IN THE REPORT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT TALKS ABOUT CAPACITY LEFT OVER CAPACITY AS SOME OF THESE OTHER TRACKS AND SOME OF THE OLDER HOMES, IF THEY ARE TAKEN DOWN AND THEY'RE REPLACED WITH SOMETHING OF THIS SIZE, OR 6000 OR 5000FT², WHAT THE CAPACITY RESTRAINTS COULD BE THERE.

THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN'T SPEAK TO HONESTLY.

THERE IS, THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE EAST, APPARENTLY IT JUST SOLD.

THERE'S A NICER HOME THERE.

I WOULDN'T CALL IT A AUTOMATIC TEAR DOWN PROPERTY.

IT JUST REALLY ALL DEPENDS ON THE LOAD AND THE DEMAND ON THAT TWO INCH LINE, AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT AND IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE HOMES ALSO IF THEY'RE EVEN GOING TO BE MANDATED TO HAVE SUPPRESSION.

SO. RIGHT.

I'M JUST MAKING THE GENERAL ASSUMPTION THAT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE LOTS, THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE PRETTY LARGE HOMES.

YOU WOULD THINK SO.

I MEAN, FOR THE AREA AND FOR THE SIZE OF THE LOTS.

YES, THEY COME AT A PREMIUM.

AND MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BUY THOSE PROPERTIES AND TEAR DOWN, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN A NICE RESIDENCE FOR SURE.

YEAH. YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE EXISTING PIPELINE IS? IS IT PVC, POLYPIPE, SCREW PIPE? WHAT IS IT? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

I WOULD THINK IT'D BE A POLYLINE, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

WE HAVEN'T DUG IT UP OR ANYTHING.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN IT WAS PUT IN.

I MEAN, THE HOME, THE RESIDENCES THERE CURRENTLY IS THERE'S NO TELLING HOW OLD IT IS.

IT WASN'T EVEN PLOTTED, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S AN AUTOMATIC TEAR DOWN.

I MEAN, IT'S IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.

RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT WAS MY POINT IS, IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S DEPENDING ON HOW PLUGGED UP, SCALED UP THE THING IS ABOUT WHAT IT CAN FLOW.

SO I'M CURIOUS IF THIS RESCOM PEOPLE DID A REAL FLOW TEST ON IT, OR IF THEY JUST DID SOME CALCULATIONS.

YEAH, THEY PROBABLY DID CALCULATIONS ON DIAMETER AND FLOW RATE MORE THAN LIKELY.

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I DON'T THINK THEY ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND.

DID A FLOW TEST. AND ACTUALLY PURGED IT TO SEE WHAT THE VOLUME AND THE RATE WOULD BE.

SO.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, ASSUMING IT WERE TO PASS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD PROBABLY DO WOULD, MAKE APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE CONTINGENT ON IT MEETING FIRE PROTECTION STANDARDS WITH RESPECT TO ACCESS.

AND, JUST FIRE PROTECTION.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE SPRINKLER. SO POINT BEING, IF YOU GET TO THE BUILDING PERMIT STAGE AND, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FELT LIKE THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE, THEN IT COULD BE ADDRESSED AT THAT POINT.

I WILL SAY THIS. WE'VE WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH FIRE.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS TO TRY TO MAKE THIS BUILDABLE.

AND THE WATER LINE WAS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR SURE.

BROWN LANE IN ITSELF IS A CHALLENGE.

I MEAN, IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD OUR EXPENSE REPAVE THE LAST 100 FOOT OF THE ROAD, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY POTHOLING REAL BAD AT THE OWNER'S EXPENSE.

[INAUDIBLE] WAS WILLING TO HELP PAY FOR AND TRY TO BRING IN A WATER LINE FROM A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

IT'S JUST IT'S ALMOST BEEN AN IMPOSSIBLE UPHILL BATTLE TRYING TO MAKE THIS LOT BUILDABLE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO USE A WELL FOR DOMESTIC OR FIRE SUPPRESSION WAS ANOTHER CHALLENGE AS WELL.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PLAN HERE, WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH OUR ENGINEERS, OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE ACCESS FOR THE FIRE TRUCKS.

AND IF YOU'LL SEE WHAT WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED, THERE IS PROPER ACCESS FOR THEM TO DRIVE THEIR TRUCKS ALL THE WAY INTO THE PROPERTY AND HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM TO TURN AROUND AND GET OUT.

AND ALL THAT CONCRETE IS 85,000 PSI RATED.

IT'S EIGHT INCHES THICK.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS THROUGH OUR GATE TO GET ONTO THE PROPERTY.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE THIS LOT IS BUILDABLE.

AND IT HAS ALL THE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IN PLACE FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO, YEAH, WE'VE JUST BEEN HARD AT WORK TRYING TO GET THIS THING READY TO GO.

SO. YEAH. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE COMMENTS FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND THEIR ENGINEERING AND THEIR REVIEW AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO WE UNDERSTAND YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH IT AS LONG AS WE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AND APPROVE THE VARIANCE THAT WE MAKE IT CONTINGENT ON MEETING THE FIRE PROTECTION STANDARDS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS FIRE ACCESS AND FIRE PROTECTION FOR SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS.

YOU GOOD DR. SPRINGER.

I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH HAS GOT IT COVERED.

I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN POINT OF CONTENTION HERE.

SO IF WE ADDRESS THAT, IT SHOULD BE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

I'M YOU KNOW, I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THIS, PROPERTY OWNER YOU KNOW, BEARING THE BURDEN FOR THE IMPROVEMENT FOR EVERYBODY.

AND I DON'T HAVE A GOOD SOLUTION THERE OTHER THAN TO, SAY, MAYBE TALKING TO THOSE OWNERS, KNOWING THAT THEIR VALUE IS IMPACTED ON THIS WATER LINE AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE ROAD AS WELL SOME SORT OF SHARED COST.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT TOTALLY MOTIVATED ON IT, BUT IN THE LONG TERM THEY SHOULD BE.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

I ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE CHANGE IN THE ZONING TO RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

BUT IT'S GOING FROM AGRICULTURAL TO AN 8000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.

THAT'S A MASSIVE, YOU KNOW, CHANGE.

AND I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER FLOW.

THE I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE CONTEMPLATING A SAFETY CATCH ALL FOR THE WATER, BUT JUST THE ACTUAL USE AND PRACTICALITY , IN THE AREA.

SO I HAVE PAUSE WITH IT.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A DEAL BREAKER, BUT I DO HAVE PRETTY EXTREME CONCERNS ABOUT IT.

YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN.

AND, DENNIS, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF WE MAKE APPROVAL OR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL CONTINGENT ON MEETING THE FIRE PROTECTION STANDARDS WHEN THEY GET TO THE BUILDING PERMIT STAGE, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT DOES ALLOW THE CITY AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO CORRECT IT AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? YES. IT DOES.

YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I GUESS I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

OKAY. CORRECT ME, DENNIS, IF I'M OFF HERE, IF I MISS ANYTHING.

BUT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER ZA23-0035, SUBJECT TO THE

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STAFF REPORT DATED DECEMBER 1ST, 2023.

ALSO SUBJECT TO THE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER THREE DATED DECEMBER 1ST, 2023, AND NOTING THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE VARIANCE REQUEST APPROVAL, THAT WE'D LIKE IT TO BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE MINIMUM FIRE PROTECTION AND ACCESS STANDARDS.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

WELL CRAFTED MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX ZERO.

THANK YOU SIR. GOOD LUCK AT CITY COUNCIL.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

[8. Consider: ZA23-0065, Specific Use Permit for a Mass Gathering for Springfest, to be held in a portion of Southlake Town Square, generally located between E. Southlake Blvd., Carroll Ave., Prospect St., Federal Way, and Central Ave. Current Zoning: "DT" Downtown District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

ITEM NUMBER 8 ZA23-0065.

SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR MASS GATHERING FOR SPRING FEST.

YEAH. THIS REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A MASS GATHERING FOR SPRING FEST, WHICH WILL BE HELD IN SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE.

IT'S GENERALLY LOCATED BETWEEN IN RUSTON & FAMILY PARK, GENERALLY BETWEEN EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, MAIN STREET, STATE, AND GRAND STREET.

THE ZONING IS D DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

AND THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE APPROXIMATE AREA WHERE THE FESTIVAL WILL TAKE PLACE.

AND THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR THAT THEY ARE DOING THIS EVENT, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THEY HAVE CROSSED THE THRESHOLD REQUIRING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

IT'S A ONE DAY EVENT. THEY'RE PROPOSING IT FOR FEBRUARY 10TH.THEY WOULD DO SOME SETUP, AFTER 10 P.M.

ON FEBRUARY 9TH WITH THE BARRIERS, THE STREET BARRIERS, AND THEN THE VENDOR TENTS AND THE FOOD TRUCKS AND ALL THE EVENT SETUP WOULD BE COMPLETED TWO HOURS BEFORE THE START OF THE EVENT. AND THE EVENT IS, SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE BETWEEN 11 AND 4 P.M..

THEY'RE ESTIMATING BETWEEN 3000 AND 5000 ATTENDEES.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE CULTURAL PROGRAMS AND YOUTH ACTIVITIES, FOOD TRUCKS, A VARIETY OF HANDICRAFTS, ART AND JEWELRY.

AND YOU'LL SEE THE GREEN LINES HERE.

THEY WILL ALSO HAVE A PARADE THAT WILL TAKE PLACE SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

AND THEN THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE GENERAL VENDOR, HOW THEY HAVE, HOW THEY'RE PLANNING TO LAY OUT THE TENTS FOR THE EVENT.

THIS IS THEIR EVENT TIMELINE.

THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT THEY DID LAST YEAR.

WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

JENNY, I KNOW ON PRIOR, SUPS THAT CAME FORWARD SIMILAR TO THIS, THAT THERE HAD BEEN ISSUES WITH THE WAY IT WAS EXECUTED ANYTHING AS IT RELATES TO THIS ONE FROM PUBLIC SAFETY OR ANY OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ABOUT EXECUTION? NO CONCERNS ON THIS ONE.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION.

ARE THEY ASKING FOR JUST ONE YEAR OR NOT? THEY HAVEN'T SPECIFIED.

THEY DIDN'T MAKE A SPECIFIC REQUEST, BUT.

YEAH. IT'S KIND OF AT YOUR DISCRETION HOW LONG YOU WANT TO APPROVE IT FOR.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT'S THE FEEDBACK FROM IT'S KITE REALTY THAT OWNS MOST OF THIS? RIGHT. WHAT'S THEIR FEEDBACK AS IT RELATES TO ALL THESE FESTIVALS, WHETHER IT'S, THE SEVERAL THAT WE HAVE IN THE FALL AND THEN AND THEN THIS ONE, IS IT POSITIVE, NEGATIVE, IN THE TENANTS.

I MEAN, I THINK THEY APPRECIATE THE DRAW THAT THESE FESTIVALS BRING IN.

THEY DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, BLOCKING, AND CAUSING SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANY MORE SPECIFIC.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY REAL SPECIFIC FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE GIVEN TO US ON THIS PARTICULAR EVENT.

OKAY. BUT YEAH, I DO KNOW THAT THERE CAN BE A LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION WHEN THERE'S TOO MANY EVENTS HAPPENING AND THE STREETS BEING BLOCKED TOO FREQUENTLY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

IS THE 10TH IS THAT SATURDAY? YES. OKAY.

YEAH. IT'S A SATURDAY EVENT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? COME ON DOWN IF YOU WOULD, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

YEAH. MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] CHAO.

I LIVE IN [INAUDIBLE] 16 MONKS LANE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

ALL RIGHT. I GUESS A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

IT LOOKED LIKE THE PARADE WAS GOING TO OR THE STREETS THAT HAD BEEN CLOSED OFF FOR THE PARADE BEFORE WERE JUST MAIN AND FOUNTAIN PLACE, IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

AND YOU'RE WANTING TO DO GRAND AND, STATE STREET AS WELL.

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YEAH, BECAUSE WE THINK ABOUT THE PRIVACY WE HAVE TO THE FOUNTAIN AND THE MAIN WHEN THE DRAGONS, WHEN THEY WANT TO MOVE THROUGH THAT SQUARE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, NOT SMOOTH.

SO I WOULD SAY IF THEY WERE ON A CONCRETE STREET PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER.

YEAH. I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE, IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTING TRAFFIC FLOW BY ADDING THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL STREETS. BUT WE'LL WE CAN ADDRESS THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I'M CURIOUS, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME WHAT THE ATTENDEES WERE? I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR OR THE FOURTH YEAR WHERE THE ATTENDEES WERE EACH SUBSEQUENT YEAR.

YEAH, WE HAD TWO PREVIOUS EVENTS.

IT'S ALL IN THE END OF JANUARY OR BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY.

SO THE FIRST TIME I THINK I GOT THE NUMBER FROM AFTER ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE FOR THE FIRST YEAR, AND THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. THE SECOND TIME IS A 3.1 K.

SO IT DEPENDS ON MOSTLY BECAUSE IT'S FEBRUARY MOSTLY DEPENDS ON WHETHER I WOULD SAY IF THE SUNNY WEATHER IS GOOD, PROBABLY WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE.

IF THAT'S COLD AND SNOWY OR WHATEVER, THAT WOULD BE HORRIBLE.

I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME ACTUALLY, WE HAD TO CANCEL IT AND POSTPONE IT FOR ANOTHER WEEK BECAUSE THE ICE AND STORM.

GOTCHA. SO YOU THINK 3 TO 5000 PEOPLE IN A FIVE HOUR PERIOD.

GUESSING.

YEAH. SO WE DON'T KNOW.

BUT REMEMBER THAT THIS PAST ONE, WE GOT ABOUT 3.1.

SO HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WILL BE THE YEAR DRAGON BECAUSE WE ARE IN SOUTHLAKE.

SO WE MAY ACTUALLY BE MORE THAN 3,000.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK MAYBE UP TO FIVE OKAY.

THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION ON THE PARADE.

SO DESCRIBE FOR ME WHAT THE PARADE IS.

AND WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, IS IT SOMETHING WHERE YOU COULD UTILIZE, THE SIDEWALKS ON GRAND AVENUE AND STATE STREET AS OPPOSED TO THE STREETS? NO, IT'S NOT ON THE SIDEWALK.

IT'S ON THE STREETS.

I THINK THE PARADE. THERE'S NO MOTORIZED VEHICLE.

IT'S MAINLY BECAUSE WE GOT LINE DANCE AND WE GOT DRAGON DANCE.

AND THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT POPULAR.

WHEN THEY COME OUT, PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE PICTURES OF THEM.

SO WE WANT THEM TO WALK ALONG THE CONCRETE STREET.

SO MAYBE SO IT TAKES A DECENT AMOUNT OF ROOM THEN.

YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE ENOUGH ROOM.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR.

IF WE NEED, MORE ANSWERS, WE'LL ASK YOU TO COME BACK UP.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I GUESS I WOULD MAKE TWO COMMENTS.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE LIMITED TO ONE YEAR, AND I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO CONSIDER DOING THAT ON SOME OF THE NEWER ONES GOING FORWARD.

THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERNS ON OTHERS.

AND THEN THE ONLY HESITATION I HAVE IS OPENING UP TWO MORE OR CLOSING TWO MORE STREETS FOR THE PARADE.

BUT, I MAY BE ABLE TO GET PAST THAT, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN FAVOR OF LIMITING IT TO ONE YEAR.

I THINK BY THE FACT THAT YOU'RE LIMITED TO ONE YEAR, MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A TEST RUN TO LET THEM HAVE ALL FOUR STREETS, SEE HOW IT GOES, AND THEN BE ABLE TO REEVALUATE IN A YEAR.

AND I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT THIS FESTIVAL.

MY DAUGHTER HAS VOLUNTEERED IN THE PAST, AND IT'S A NICE, MULTICULTURAL EVENT AND GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

AND I THINK IT'S A REAL POSITIVE THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

GOOD. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER ZA23-0065, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED DECEMBER 1ST, 2023, AND SUBJECT TO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER ONE DATED NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023 WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THIS SUP WOULD BE LIMITED TO A ONE YEAR, APPROVAL.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES SIX ZERO.

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THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS.

[9. Consider: ZA23-0067, Preliminary Plat for Constellation Southlake, for property described as Tracts 1B01, 1B01B, 1B01C, 1B01C1, 1B01C2, 1B01D, Harrison Decker Survey Abstract No. 438, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 2100-2120 Mustang Court, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "1-2" Heavy Industrial District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND FINAL ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 9 ZA23-0067, A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR CONSTELLATION SOUTHLAKE.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO A PRELIMINARY PLAT WHAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED FOR SITE PLAN FOR THE CONSTELLATION WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 2000 THROUGH 2120 MUSTANG COURT.

THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THIS WOULD REDEVELOP THE CURRENT MAGELLAN PETROLEUM TANK FARM.

LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THIS PROPERTY IS INDUSTRIAL.

AND THE ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY IS I-2 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT AND NO VARIANCES RELATED TO THE PLOT.

YOU HAVE BEEN UPDATED WITH A NEW STAFF REPORT AND REVIEW SUMMARY AND ANY ACTION TAKEN WE ASK THAT YOU REFERENCE THAT.

THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE, INFORMATION BACKGROUND ON APPROVED SITE PLAN.

AND WE'VE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.

BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH? THANK YOU. DENNIS. THANK YOU.