Feb 20, 2024 City Council

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, IT'S 5:30.

[1. Call to order]

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THANKS FOR COMING OUT ON THIS BEAUTIFUL, FIRST DAY OF EARLY VOTING.

WE'RE GOING TO START TONIGHT, AS WE DO WITH EVERY NIGHT.

AND THAT IS AN INVOCATION FROM OUR CITY CHAPLAIN, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGES.

PASTOR REED, COME ON DOWN.

WELCOME BACK. SIR, WE MISSED YOU.

THANK YOU MAYOR. LET'S PRAY.

LORD, WE GIVE THANKS FOR THIS EVENING.

WE PRAY FOR HELP AND PEACE IN THIS ROOM.

AND WE GIVE THANKS FOR OUR CITY.

AND WE PRAY FOR HELP AND PEACE FOR IT.

WE PRAY AS PEOPLE WORK TONIGHT MAKING TRAFFIC STOPS AND RESPONDING TO CALLS AND PEOPLE'S HOMES.

WE JUST PRAY BLESSING OVER EVERY OFFICER, EVERY FIRE PROFESSIONAL.

LORD WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO SERVE IN THAT WAY, AND WE PRAY, BLESSING AND HELP FOR THEM AS THEY SERVE.

LORD WE ALSO PRAY FOR OUR KIDS THIS EVENING.

WE PRAY FOR SAFETY FOR OUR SCHOOLS AND PEACE IN OUR SCHOOLS AND IN OUR HOMES.

LORD, THANK YOU FOR OUR TOWN AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE IT.

AND WE PRAY TONIGHT AS THEY THINK AND WORK THROUGH AGENDAS AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THAT IN EVERY DECISION THAT THERE WILL BE HONOR AND INTEGRITY AND PEACE.

THANK YOU FOR THESE WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO SERVE AND WE PRAY BLESSING ON THEIR FAMILIES.

WE PRAY TONIGHT, EVEN AS THEY'RE HERE, THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THEIR HOMES AND THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THEM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE FOR US.

AND WE GIVE THANKS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OUR SAVIOR.

IT'S IN HIS NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN.

JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AND THE TEXAS PLEDGE.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY FOR TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION, WE WILL START WITH THE SOUTHLAKE BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT.

[3. Southlake Business Spotlight: Estelle Spa & Wellness, located at 2801 E. SH 114, Suite 117]

IT'S A VERY LONG TITLE, SIR.

I'M TRYING TO MEMORIZE IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE A VIDEO FOR ESTELLE SPA AND WELLNESS.

YES, SIR. WE GOT THE PRIVILEGE OF MEETING THIS BUSINESS OWNER HERE RECENTLY, AND WE WERE PRETTY IMPRESSED WITH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY OFFER.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE INTRODUCING ESTELLE SPA AND WELLNESS.

[VIDEO] HI, MY NAME IS OGO EKWEOZER HOLLEY I'M THE MANAGING DIRECTOR HERE AT ESTELLE SPA IN SOUTHLAKE.

WE ARE LOCATED HERE AT SALONS BY JC AND WE PROVIDE TWO AMAZING SERVICES.

WE REALLY BELIEVE IN HELPING WOMEN FEEL CONFIDENT WITH THEMSELVES AND THEIR BODIES.

AND I'M THE FIRST SERVICE IS OUR RED LIGHT THERAPY TREATMENT.

I MEAN, RED LIGHT THERAPY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A FEW YEARS NOW WHERE YOU FIND ORTHOPEDIC SURGEONS OR CHIROPRACTORS WILL TEND TO RECOMMEND IT WHEN IT COMES TO HEALING OF SPORTS INJURIES OR MUSCLE INJURY.

BUT NOW JUST WITH TECHNOLOGY, IT'S BEEN RECREATED NOW.

SO YOU HAVE MACHINES THAT NOW PROVIDE IT FOR THE ENTIRE BODY, AND IT'S AMAZING.

AND THE PURPOSE REALLY IS TO HELP WITH CLEANING TOXINS OUT OF YOUR BODY AND CLEANSING YOUR BODY FROM THE INSIDE OUT, WHICH THEN ACCELERATES HEALING OF YOUR CELLS FROM A CELLULAR LEVEL.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM DOCTORS THAT COME.

WE'VE EVEN HAD PATIENTS WHO'VE HAD CANCER TREATMENTS COME FOR HELP HERE AS WELL AS WEIGHT LOSS AS WELL.

IT'S REALLY USEFUL FOR THAT BECAUSE WHAT IT'S DOING IS BY CLEANSING YOUR TOXIN TOXINS OUT OF YOUR BODY, LYMPHATIC DRAINAGE AND INCREASING BLOOD CIRCULATION, IT'S ACTUALLY REMOVING FAT AS WELL, WHICH BREAKS DOWN INTO THE TOXINS, WHICH THEN COMES UP THROUGH URINATING AND SWEAT.

AND SO HOW IT WORKS IS YOU LITERALLY JUST LAY IN THE, IN THE POD, AND WE GIVE YOU A CERTAIN TYPE OF CREAM THAT HELPS REALLY IMPROVE THE COLLAGEN IN YOUR BODY, AND ALSO REALLY JUST HELPS YOU BREAK DOWN THE TOXINS.

AND THAT CREAM KIND OF JUST APPLIES.

IT FEELS LIKE A TINGLING SENSATION.

PEOPLE LOVE IT. AND THEN YOU GO IN THERE AND IT STARTS WORKING.

SO THE MASSAGE TREATMENT COMES ON AND A HEAT, YOU START TO FEEL HEAT AS WELL, AND IT'S VERY COMFORTABLE AND RELAXED.

A LOT OF CLIENTS FALL ASLEEP DURING THE TREATMENT, THEIR 15 MINUTE SESSIONS AND WHILST THE TREATMENTS GOING ON, THE RED LIGHT THERAPY IS LITERALLY WORKING IN YOU FROM THE INSIDE OUT TO GET YOU TO FEEL HEALTHIER AND TO BE HEALTHIER.

SO YOU CAN FIND US ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

YOU CAN FIND US AT ESTELLE SPA SOUTHLAKE.

SO IT'S AT ESTELLE SPA, SOUTHLAKE, INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK.

YOU CAN ALSO FIND US ON OUR WEBSITE AT ESTELLESPA.COM.

THAT'S E S T E L L E SPA SPA.COM.

SO YOU CAN FIND US IN THOSE PLACES AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO JUST CONNECTING WITH YOU.

OUR MISSION IS TO MAKE WOMEN FEEL MORE CONFIDENT IN THEMSELVES EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND SO WE'D LOVE TO CONNECT WITH YOU TO DO THAT.

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ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. THAT'S ALL.

THAT'S GREAT. WHEN DID THEY OPEN? NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER OKAY.

NOVEMBER. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT.

WELL, I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THEM IN TOWN.

AND CERTAINLY IT'S A, IT'S A IT'S ALWAYS A HUGE HONOR WHEN SOMEONE DECIDES TO INVEST THEIR CAPITAL AND THEIR TIME TO OPENING UP A BUSINESS IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND CERTAINLY WE WANT TO PROMOTE THEM AND SUPPORT THEM.

YEAH. EXCELLENT STARTUP, BEAUTIFUL STARTUP.

GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

APPRECIATE IT. WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PROJECT.

[4. Veteran's Memorial Project]

YOU'RE GOING TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SOUTHLAKE VETERANS MEMORIAL.

YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MILENKA LOPEZ, I AM THE ASSISTANT TO THE DIRECTOR FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE.

AND TONIGHT I'M VERY EXCITED TO SHARE AN UPDATE ON A VERY EXCITING PUBLIC ART PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IN THE WORKS.

TO SET THE THE SCENE A LITTLE BIT.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY INTEREST IN HAVING A VETERANS MEMORIAL IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM OUR VETERAN COMMUNITY THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

SO WE STARTED LOOKING THROUGH OUR DOCUMENTS TO SEE HOW THIS COULD FIT.

AND OF COURSE, IN OUR PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN SECTION 4.1 VISION FOR THE FUTURE, WE SAW THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR PIECES THAT ARE UNIQUE, CLASSY, ART THAT CREATES A SENSE OF SPACE, AND ART THAT IS EXPERIENTIAL.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT A VETERANS MEMORIAL CAN FIT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS QUITE NICELY.

SO DUE TO THIS INTEREST AND AS WELL AS THE ALIGNMENT THAT IT HAS IN THE MASTER PLAN, STAFF WENT AHEAD AND SET ASIDE SOME FUNDING IN THE FY 24 CIP FOR THIS PROJECT AND WE'LL ALSO BE WORKING WITH ROBERT BRIGGS, WHO IS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO SERVES AS THE CITY'S VETERAN LIAISON TO CONSULT AND HELP US PUSH THIS PROJECT TO THE FINISH LINE.

WE HAD OUR VERY FIRST MEETING WITH THE SOUTHLAKE ARTS COUNCIL IN JANUARY, WHERE WE BROUGHT UP THIS PROJECT FOR INITIAL DISCUSSION, AND WE HAD A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION WHERE WE KIND OF BRAINSTORMED AND THOUGHT ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THIS PRESENTATION IS GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. SO HERE IS THE FY 24 PUBLIC ART CIP.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE VETERANS MEMORIAL IS LISTED AS PRIORITY NUMBER TWO, WITH THE FIRST ONE BEING INSTALLATION OF A PUBLIC ART PIECE AT DPS WEST, WHICH IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE ABOUT $570,000 AVAILABLE FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE.

AND THE VERY FIRST THING THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL WAS WHERE WE WOULD THINK WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

OUR INITIAL SITE SELECTION IS THE WEST SIDE OF THE LIBERTY GARDENS, AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

FIRST, IT'S CENTRAL TO THE CITY.

A VETERANS MEMORIAL FITS REALLY NICELY WITH THE PATRIOTIC THEME OF LIBERTY GARDENS AND BICENTENNIAL PARK.

IT IS A SPACE THAT'S LARGE AND LEVEL ENOUGH FOR CONSTRUCTION AND FOR HOSTING FUTURE VETERAN PROGRAMING.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT IS A SPACE THAT IS VERY WELL LIKED BY THE VETERANS WHO HAVE COME FORWARD.

IS THAT? THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE 911 MEMORIAL.

RIGHT? YES, SIR.

SO THIS IS AN OLDER MAP, BUT THE REMEMBRANCE AND RENEWAL TOWERS ARE HERE.

HERE'S THE LITTLE WALKWAY WITH THE PICNIC TABLES.

AND THEN THIS IS THE SPACE THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING.

SO IT WOULD REALLY CLOSE OUT THE SPACE IN A REALLY NICE WAY TO HAVE THE 911 AND THE VETERANS MEMORIAL ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.

OKAY. YOU GOT IT. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE SITE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE VANTAGE POINT OF THE PICNIC TABLES AT LIBERTY GARDENS.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S A PRETTY LARGE GRASSY FIELD THAT IS SURROUNDED NICELY BY TREES TO DEVELOP A NICE NATURAL SHADE.

YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER HERE.

AND THEN THIS FOLLOWING IMAGE KIND OF SHOWS THE DEPTH OF THE SPACE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT IT DOES GO ALL THE WAY TO THE SIDEWALK, WHICH WOULD BE EASY ACCESS FOR A LARGE GATHERING OR A PROGRAM OF SOME SORT.

HERE WE HAVE SOME PICTURES OF LOCAL EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE METROPLEX.

WE HAVE KELLER, ARLINGTON, DENTON, AND GRAPEVINE AS WELL AS A PIECE FROM ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA.

WE SHOWED THESE EXAMPLES TO THE ARTS COUNCIL IN JANUARY.

AND HERE'S SOME MORE LOCAL EXAMPLES FROM FORT WORTH, PLANO, FRISCO, AND GRAND PRAIRIE.

AND THEN HERE'S SOME MORE NATIONAL EXAMPLES.

AND THE INTERESTING THING HERE IS THAT THESE EXAMPLES ARE MORE WALLS WITH TEXT.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY A WAY THAT WE COULD GO.

THESE EXAMPLES ARE FROM ARIZONA, PENNSYLVANIA, LOUISIANA AND FLORIDA.

WHEREAS THESE NATIONAL EXAMPLES DEPICT MORE HUMANS AND THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED.

THESE EXAMPLES ARE FROM IOWA, WASHINGTON, D.C., ROCKFORD, ILLINOIS, THE TEXAS STATE CAPITOL, AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS ONE THAT IS PLACED IN FRONT OF SHIELDS, AND ONE THAT WE THINK IS PARTICULARLY INTERESTING IN THEIR CONCEPT IS FIELD OF HONOR.

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AND WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE, THAT IS THAT THEY DO HIGHLIGHT TWO FEMALE VETERANS HERE.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

SO HERE I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM THE ARTS COUNCIL FROM THIS INITIAL DISCUSSIONS.

IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT AND THE LOCATION, THE ARTS COUNCIL WERE IN AGREEMENT AND THEY LIKED THE PROJECT AND THEY LIKED THE LOCATION, AND THEY EXPRESSED A DESIRE FOR THIS PIECE TO BE REVERENT AND UNIQUE, WITH A SPACE LARGE ENOUGH TO HOST MILITARY RELATED EVENTS, AS WELL AS TO HAVE AN INCLUSIVE PIECE THAT HONORS ALL WHO HAVE SERVED.

OF COURSE, THE THEME AND SCOPE OF THAT IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DECISION WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE WHETHER WE FOCUS ON THE BRANCHES, DIFFERENT CONFLICTS, GENDER, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCOVER.

AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FEEDBACK WAS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME COMMUNITY INPUT.

THEY HAVE A DESIRE TO ENGAGE WITH THE VETERAN COMMUNITY AND TO CREATE A CITIZEN, VETERAN FOCUSED GROUP.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DEPUTY DIRECTOR BRIGGS WILL BE HELPING US.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

SO HERE ARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR THIS PROJECT AS IT IS NOW.

AS MENTIONED, WE WILL BE FORMING A VETERAN COMMUNITY FOCUS GROUP THAT DEPUTY DIRECTOR BRIGGS WILL BE LEADING.

THE DEADLINE TO APPLY WILL BE MARCH 8TH.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE SOUTHLAKE ARTS COUNCIL TO TOUR LOCAL VETERANS MEMORIALS TO GET SOME IDEAS AND KIND OF GATHER OUR THOUGHTS WITH THE GOAL OF COMPILING THE FEEDBACK FROM THE FOCUS GROUP AND THE ARTS COUNCIL TO BRING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL DURING THE SUMMER WORKSHOP, AND THEN HOPEFULLY GETTING SOME DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL AND WORK WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL TO DEVELOP A CALL FOR ARTISTS AND START GETTING THAT PROJECT OFF THE GROUND.

FINALLY, WE INVITE OUR VETERAN RESIDENTS TO GET INVOLVED.

KEEP AN EYE ON THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE'S VETERAN PROGRAM WEBSITE.

YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT ROBERT BRIGGS DIRECTLY AT THIS EMAIL.

THERE WILL BE AN INTEREST FORM FOR THIS FOCUS GROUP AND THE DEADLINE TO APPLY IS MARCH 8TH.

THAT IS MY PRESENTATION FOR TODAY.

I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK ALL THOSE IDEAS LOOK GREAT.

THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL.

I MEAN, SEEING ALL THAT STUFF I THINK THERE'S ALMOST WANT TO DO LIKE GO BIG.

THERE'S MULTIPLE IDEAS THAT I THINK WE COULD INCORPORATE AND PUT TOGETHER.

I'M NOT SURE I COULD REALLY EVEN PICK ONE IF WE HAD TO PICK RIGHT HERE AND NOW.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A BLANK CANVAS.

SO IF WE NEED TO BE OR WANT TO BE CREATIVE AND INCORPORATE MORE THAN ONE IDEA FROM THOSE SETS OF EXAMPLES, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

LET'S LET'S GO BIG AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

I LOVE IT. I LOVE THAT WE'RE THINKING IN THIS WAY.

I MEAN, WE HAVE SO MANY VETERANS IN THIS AREA.

IT'S SO GREAT TO SEE THEM AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THANKS FOR OUR FREEDOMS. SO THERE'S ONE THAT WE VISIT IN LONGBOAT KEY, FLORIDA.

I ALWAYS TAKE THE GIRLS TO VISIT WHENEVER WE SPEND THE SUMMERS THERE.

IT'S REALLY BIG AND EXTRAVAGANT.

IT'S JUST A GREAT WAY TO REMIND THEM OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE HAVE THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE.

SO I AGREE WITH WITH COUNCILMAN MCCASKILL, GO BIG OR GO HOME.

I THINK WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO SHINE A LIGHT ON THOSE WHO SACRIFICED.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I AGREE TOO.

IT'S IT'S REALLY NEAT.

AND WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, THE DESIGN AND WHAT WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE, I NEVER WOULD HAVE EVEN WRAP MY HEAD AROUND PUTTING FEMALE VETERANS IN THE MEMORIAL, BUT THAT'S AN AMAZING IDEA.

YOU DON'T OFTEN SEE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN INCORPORATE.

ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS WAS A 25 YEAR AIR FORCE VETERAN, AND SHE NEVER HAD CHILDREN BECAUSE SHE WAS AFRAID THAT SHE WOULD NEVER COME HOME.

AND SO WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THAT RIGHT HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE AMAZING TRIBUTE TO ALL VETERANS IF WE THOUGHT THROUGH THAT SOME AND MADE IT JUST REALLY COOL AND SPECIAL AND THINKING ABOUT IT.

AND YOU'RE POINTING OUT ALL THESE CITIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TO LONGBOAT KEY AND I'VE BEEN TO ALL THESE PLACES.

AND THERE'S VETERANS MEMORIAL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

THAT'S IT'S GREAT. SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE GOING THAT DIRECTION.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT IDEAS WE COME UP WITH.

YEAH, I'LL JUST ADD I THINK IT'S NICE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING OUR, OUR FOCUS ON VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I MEAN, WE JUST LAST YEAR, I GUESS, WHEN WE DEDICATED THE PARKING SPOTS AROUND TOWN SQUARE AND THEN TO GO TO A MEMORIAL LIKE THIS, I THINK IT CONTINUES THAT MESSAGE OF HOW IMPORTANT THESE FOLKS ARE AND HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEIR THEIR SACRIFICE AND THEIR HARD WORK.

WELL, I'LL CHIME IN OF COURSE, I ATTEND ARTS COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND SO IT'S BEEN GREAT TO TO GET THIS PROJECT STARTED.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A VETERAN ON ARTS COUNCIL, MILAN GEORGIA.

HE COULDN'T BE THERE FOR THE FIRST MEETING, WHICH WAS A BUMMER BECAUSE HE'S HE'S SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

AND HIS INPUT, ALONG WITH DEPUTY DIRECTOR BRIGGS, IS GOING TO BE GREAT AND THE FOCUS GROUP.

SO, IT'S A LITTLE OVERWHELMING.

AS YOU CAN TELL. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND CHOICES, BUT ARTS COUNCIL REALLY WANTED TO GET Y'ALL'S INPUT.

AND I THINK ALL EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID HAS BEEN GREAT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL GOING FORWARD.

I WOULD EVEN ADD, YOU KNOW, WITH THE GOING BIG IDEA, YOU KNOW, THE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE HILL ACROSS THE STREET, BY THE WATER TOWER.

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YOU MIGHT JUST NEED MORE SPACE.

AND I THINK HAVING THAT HIGH POINT AND THAT TOPOGRAPHY MIGHT BE INTERESTING.

IT'S JUST AN IDEA OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I THINK ANY AND ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE ARTS COUNCIL WANTS TO LOOK AT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE TIME WELL SPENT.

JUST AN OPTION AND I'M GOING TO CHIME IN ONE MORE TIME.

I REALLY LEAN TOWARD THE ONES THAT ARE DEPICTING THE PEOPLE.

TO ME, WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT VETERANS, IT REALLY HUMANIZES THEM.

AND VERSUS A STATUE WITH A NAME ON IT AND WRITING, I REALLY I LOVE THE ART THAT DEPICTS THE PEOPLE AND SENDS A MESSAGE AND I THAT'S JUST REALLY TOUCHING TO ME IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

YEAH, LET ME JUST SAY I AGREE WITH ALL THAT I THIS IS GOING TO BE OFFICIALLY PAST MY TIME ON THIS DAIS, BUT LET ME JUST SAY, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO IN A DIRECTION LIKE THAT.

I WOULD I'M VERY DRAWN TOWARDS THE DEPICTIONS OF REAL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ABSTRACT AND MODERN.

I DO NOT THINK THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THIS THING SHOULD GO.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S AMAZING WALL MOTIFS.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE VIETNAM MEMORIAL WAS, WAS ACTUALLY WAS CONTROVERSIAL WHEN IT WAS BUILT, BUT THAT'S TURNED OUT TO BE ONE OF THE MOST POIGNANT VETERANS MEMORIALS IN THE WORLD. IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PIECE.

BUT ABSTRACT IS HARD TO PULL OFF.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO TO ME, SOMETHING CLASSIC, SOMETHING DEPICTING THE PEOPLE THAT THAT FOUGHT IN THESE WARS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE.

I WOULD JUST SHY AWAY FROM ANYTHING ABSTRACT AND MODERN.

SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY FEEDBACK.

BUT I LOVE IT. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.

AND I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCASKILL, THE IDEA OF GOING ACROSS THE STREET BE EASIER FOR PARKING, WHICH WHICH MATTERS, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR OLDER VETS WHO AREN'T AS MOBILE. BUT ALSO IT GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO INCORPORATE SOME TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH MIGHT BE REALLY COOL.

SO BUT I APPRECIATE ARTS COUNCIL, APPRECIATE STAFF REALLY DIGGING INTO THIS.

I THINK A VETERANS MEMORIAL WOULD BE AN AMAZING ADDITION TO OUR ARTS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY EXCITING.

OKAY WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE NIGHT.

[5. Discuss all items on tonight's agenda. No action will be taken and each item will be considered during the Regular Session.]

ITEM 4B EXCUSE THE ABSENCE OF COUNCIL MEMBER RANDY ROBBINS FROM THE FEBRUARY 20TH 24 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ITEM 4C APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 24-006 AMENDING THE BYLAWS OF THE LIBRARY BOARD.

ITEM FOUR D EXCUSE ME.

RESOLUTION NUMBER 24-007 APPOINTING THE CHAIR TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE FOR THE 2024 CALENDAR YEAR.

ITEM 4E APPROVED FINAL CONCEPT AND CONTRACT WITH ARTIST VITO DDIBARI, DBA DIBARI AND ASSOCIATES, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $100,000 FOR PUBLIC ART TO BE INSTALLED AT DPS WEST.

ITEM 4F ACCEPT DONATION FOR LIBRARY DOOR ART IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,200.

ITEM 4G ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-811, ZA24-0001 FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR 974 WEST DOVE. ITEM 4H TABLING THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 1269-B CP24-0001 FIRST READING AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CONSOLIDATED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

AND ITEM 4I TABLING ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-810, ZA23-0072 FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE OVERLOOK AND WILLOW TREE GARDENS.

COUNCIL IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN PUT ON CONSENT? ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING.

NO, MAYOR. NO NO, NO.

THAT'S IT SHORT AGENDA TONIGHT.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING ON CONSENT COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON AND I'LL CALL THIS REGULAR SESSION TO ORDER.

[1. Call to order]

[2.A. Executive Session]

AND WE SHOULD BE BACK AT LEAST AT LEAST AN HOUR.

SEE YOU AT 7:00. OKAY.

[2.B. Reconvene]

WE'RE GOING TO KNOCK OUT SOME THINGS BEFORE PUBLIC SESSION.

IS THERE ANY ACTION NEEDED OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

AND WITHOUT. MOVE ON TO ITEM 3A MAYOR'S REPORT, AND THERE'S NOTHING SCHEDULED, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 3B CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

[3.B. City Manager's Report]

THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO INVITE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS PILAR SCHANK TO COME FORWARD S HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATORS DAY, WHICH I BELIEVE IS COMING UP THIS WEEK. THANK YOU ALLISON.

MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO STAND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT NATIONAL GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATORS DAY.

WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS JUST A FRACTION OF THE SOUTHLAKE STORIES THAT OUR GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATORS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

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SUPPORTED BY THE NATIONAL COMMUNICATORS GROUP, CITY COUNTY COMMUNICATION AND MARKETING ASSOCIATION 3CMA.

OOPS, SORRY.

THE DAY IS MEANT TO RECOGNIZE THE OUTSTANDING EFFORTS OF THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATORS.

HERE IN SOUTHLAKE, THE COMMUNICATORS ARE FOUND THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE ARE STRATEGICALLY COMMUNICATING INFORMATION ABOUT OUR FOCUS AREAS AND IN ORDER TO CREATE WORLD CLASS CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT AND EXPERIENCES.

ACROSS THE CITY, THERE ARE 11 PEOPLE WHOSE PRIMARY FOCUS IS COMMUNICATION AND CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT.

AND IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, WE BELIEVE THOSE TWO THINGS ARE INEXTRICABLY COMBINED, MAKING FOR BETTER STORYTELLING, BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND, WHEN NECESSARY, A GO TO TEAM THAT CAN WORK THROUGH CRISIS SITUATIONS.

IT'S A GREAT TO BE A PART OF THIS AWARD WINNING TEAM.

WE ALSO HAVE THE INTRA DEPARTMENTAL COMMUNICATION MATRIX TEAM.

THIS TEAM IS DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING ALIGNED AND ROBUST COMMUNICATION FROM THE CITY TO OUR RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES.

ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE REPRESENTED, ALTHOUGH A FEW DID MISS THIS PICTURE.

THIS TEAM IS A CRITICAL LINK IN OUR COMMUNICATION STRATEGY.

AS THEY SERVE THEIR DEPARTMENT, AS THEY SERVE AS THE DEPARTMENT'S KEY LEADS TO ENSURE THAT INFORMATION, IDEAS, AND CONCERNS ARE EFFECTIVELY OR EFFECTIVELY SHARED.

AND OF COURSE, HERE'S WHERE YOU CAN FIND OUR WORK ON SOCIAL MEDIA, OUR WEBSITES, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME ABOUT WITH SOUTHLAKE SERVES CUSTOMER INTERACTIONS, CITY COUNCIL AND BOARD COMMISSION MEETINGS, SOUTHLAKE EVENTS, AND THE CITIZEN SURVEY COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE.

AND OF COURSE, THE ONE THAT I CAN'T HELP BUT MENTION IS THE EVERYDAY INTERACTIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE WITH RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS AND VISITORS.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

WE JUST ARE SO PROUD TO REPRESENT THE CITY AND ITS COMMUNICATION AND CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

WELL, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SCHANK.

I JUST, I'M NOT NOT A QUESTION, BUT JUST A COMMENT.

I'M HAPPY TO CELEBRATE YOU GUYS.

I THINK IT'S REALLY SPECIAL.

AND I THINK YOU GUYS JUST DO A PHENOMENAL JOB.

SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO WELL AS A CITY IS JUST COMES DOWN TO HOW WELL WE COMMUNICATE, HOW WELL WE MANAGE EXPECTATIONS AND TALK TO OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT THEIR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS AND HOW HOW WELL WE COMMUNICATE IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS AND JUST GETTING INFORMATION TO AND FROM THE RESIDENTS.

AND I REALLY I'M BIASED, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS DO IT PRETTY MUCH THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS.

SO PROFESSIONAL, SO ON BRAND ALWAYS.

YOU GUYS ARE TRUE PROS.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT WELL THEN LET ME DO A PROCLAMATION.

AND CAN WE GET A PICTURE.

OH YEAH. ALL RIGHT HERE WE GO.

WHEREAS THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATIONS PROFESSIONALS IS TO INFORM, EDUCATE AND ENGAGE THEIR COMMUNITIES.

AND WHEREAS ROBUST COMMUNICATION IN GOVERNMENT CREATES TRUST AND INSPIRES RESIDENTS TO TAKE ACTION AND BE INVOLVED.

WHEREAS THESE PROFESSIONALS CREATE RELATIONSHIPS AND CALLS TO ACTION, BUILD AWARENESS AND UNDERSTANDING THROUGH STORYTELLING.

ENGAGE AND FOSTER ENGAGEMENT ON CIVIC ISSUES, AND USE ALL CHANNELS TO INCLUDE PEOPLE IN CRITICAL DECISIONS.

AND WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL TO HAVE STRONG COMMUNICATIONS IN GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT IS THE FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENT OF LIVING IN A DEMOCRACY WHERE CITIZENS HAVE THE FREEDOM TO MAKE THEIR VOICE HEARD. AND WHEREAS WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEDICATION AND PROFESSIONALISM OF GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATORS WHO WORK DILIGENTLY TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC IS INFORMED, EMPOWERED AND CONNECTED. AND NOW, THEREFORE, I, MAYOR JOHN HUFFMAN OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 24TH, 2024 AS GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATORS DAY.

CONGRATULATIONS [APPLAUSE].

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YES, MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE FINANCIAL REPORT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED IN YOUR PACKET.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH WITH THAT WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEMS 4A THROUGH 4I, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

NOPE. SEEING NONE WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 4A THROUGH 4I NOTING THAT FOR ITEM 4D RESOLUTION NUMBER 24-007, WE'RE APPOINTING RANDY WILLIAMSON AS THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE FOR THE 2024 CALENDAR YEAR, AND NOTING WE'RE TABLING ITEMS 4H AND 4I, ITEM 4H IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 1269-B CP24-001 FIRST AMENDMENT FIRST READING AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CONSOLIDATED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR THE OVERLOOK.

AND ALSO ITEM 4I IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-810 CASE NUMBER ZA 23-0072.

FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE OVERLOOK AND WILLOW TREE GARDENS.

WORKED TABLING THESE ITEMS AS THESE THIS THESE ITEMS WERE TABLED AT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AT THE FEBRUARY 8TH, 2024 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

AND THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR FEBRUARY 22ND, 2024 MEETING.

PENDING THE P&Z COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.

THESE ITEMS WILL BE PLACED ON THE MARCH 5TH, 2024 CITY COUNCIL AGENDA FOR FIRST READINGS, AND CONSIDERATION.

AND AT THE MARCH 19TH, 2024, CITY COUNCIL AGENDA FOR SECOND READING CONSIDERATION AND PUBLIC HEARING MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OKAY. OUR CONSENT AGENDA PASSES SIX ZERO.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC FORUM.

WE ARE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL 7 P.M.

FOR THIS, WHICH IS THE POSTED TIME.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO 6A, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-771A ZA23-0077 SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR 360 SOUTH

[6.A. Ordinance No. 480-771a, ZA23-0077, 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Site Plan for 360 S. Nolen Drive, located on property described as Lot 2, Block A, GMI Southlake Addition, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 360 S. Nolen Dr., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District. Requested Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

YOU KNOW, SECOND READING, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLEAR ON THIS.

DOES ANYBODY NEED A FULL PRESENTATION COUNCIL? NO. OKAY. I THINK.

THANK YOU. WE'RE ALL SET.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COUNCIL? ANY CONCERNS? OKAY, WELL, THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 6A.

SEEING NO ONE WISHING TO SPEAK OR CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COUNCIL IF THERE'S NO MORE COMMENTS, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6A ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-771A CASE NUMBER ZA23-0077. SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR 360 SOUTH NOLAN DRIVE, LOCATED ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT TWO, BLOCK A, GMI SOUTHLAKE ADDITION, CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TARRANT COUNTY, TEXAS AND LOCATED AT 360 SOUTH NOLAN DRIVE IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED FEBRUARY 13TH, 2024 AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER THREE DATED JANUARY 18TH, 2024, AND NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING A ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN TO INCLUDE DAY NURSERIES AS AN ADDITIONAL PERMITTED USE ONLY WITHIN LOT TWO AND PHASE TWO OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AS SHOWN IN THE SITE PLAN. [INAUDIBLE] SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OKAY. ITEM 6A PASSES SIX TO ZERO.

CONGRATULATIONS [INAUDIBLE].

MOVING ON TO ITEM 6B ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-763B ZA23-0078 SECOND READING, ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR THE WHEELHOUSE.

[6.B. Ordinance No. 480-763b, ZA23-0078, 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Site Plan for the Wheelhouse, to include a variance to the Masonry Ordinance No. 557, as amended, on property described as Tracts 6C, 6C02, 6C03, 6C01A, Jesse G. Allen Survey Abstract No. 18, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas, and located at 880-950 Davis Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. Requested Zoning: "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #10. PUBLIC HEARING]

UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.

OKAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 6B AS WELL, IF THERE'S ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK.

SEEING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE A MOTION.

YES, MAYOR COUNCIL, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6B ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-763B CASE NUMBER ZA23-0078.

SECOND READING, ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR THE WHEELHOUSE TO INCLUDE A VARIANCE TO THE MASONRY.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 557, AS AMENDED, ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACK 6C02, 6C03, 6C01A JESSE G.

ALLEN SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 18, CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TARRANT COUNTY, TEXAS AND LOCATED AT 880-950 DAVIS BOULEVARD IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED FEBRUARY 13TH, 2024 AND PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER ONE DATED DECEMBER 29TH, 2023.

NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING THE ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN TO ADD THE PERMITTED USE OF A PRIVATE CLUB FOR WINE STORAGE WITH NO ALCOHOL SALES PERMITTED ONLY WITHIN BUILDING

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WITH NO OTHER CHANGES TO THE CURRENT SP-1 DISTRICT ZONING REGULATIONS, SITE PLAN AND VARIANCES AS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OKAY. ITEM 6B PASSES SIX ZERO.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE WHEELHOUSE, CURTIS WAS THAT YOURS? YES. OKAY, WELCOME.

SO SLIGHTLY.

SEE YOU LATER. CONGRATULATIONS.

DOING THE PEOPLE'S WORK.

OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 9A, WHICH IS ADOPTING THE FY 2024 THROUGH 2028 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.

[9.A. Adopt the FY 2024-2028 Capital Improvements Program.]

YES, MAYOR. AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

TONIGHT WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOLLOWING OUR WORK SESSION THAT WE HELD WITH YOU AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING TO CONSIDER APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE 24 TO 28 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.

AND THIS IS JUST A REMINDER OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THIS PROCESS.

THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH THE ADOPTION OF THIS NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM BUDGET.

AS A REMINDER, IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A SET OF GOALS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

THESE ARE ALL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY'S STRATEGIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, AND ULTIMATELY, THE FINANCIAL GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT ARE USED TO DEVELOP THE ANNUAL BUDGET THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS EACH SEPTEMBER.

AT THE PREVIOUS WORK SESSION, WE WENT THROUGH THE PROJECTS AND PROVIDED DETAILS ON THE PROJECTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED OR PROGRAMED FOR FUNDING IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. SO TONIGHT, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER SHARON JACKSON IS GOING TO FOCUS ON THE FINANCIAL PICTURE OF THE PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.

AND THEN WE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, AS NEEDED.

THANK YOU. AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED AT THE FEBRUARY 6TH MEETING, OUR OVERALL CFP IS $41.6 MILLION, AND THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM WAS DEVELOPED WITH THE SAME GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE'VE USED HISTORICALLY.

AND THAT'S WITH MAXIMIZING OUR CASH FUNDING TO NOTE THAT 58% OF THE PROPOSED PLAN WILL BE FUNDED WITH CASH AND 42% WITH FUTURE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, AND THAT ALSO PLAYS IN LINE WITH OUR PRUDENT DEBT MANAGEMENT.

SO THE BALANCE OF THE CASH AND THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION IS IN LINE WITH OUR DEBT MANAGEMENT STRATEGY THAT WE'VE USED OVER THE YEARS, AS WELL AS IT'S ALIGNED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED OVER THE YEARS.

ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S ABOUT TEN DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.

SO A VARIETY OF FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE USE TO FUND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

THE STAR REPRESENTS THE CASH FUNDING.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN EACH CATEGORY, THERE'S A LEVEL OF CASH THAT'S AFFILIATED WITH IT.

AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET TO THE 58% OF THE PROGRAM WILL BE FUNDED WITH CASH.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE GENERAL FUND, THERE'S ABOUT $6.6 MILLION THAT WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH FUTURE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THAT WILL BE PLANNED TO BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE, PROBABLY AROUND APRIL, MARCH YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST INITIAL ACTION AND THEN WITH FUNDING BY MAY, UTILITY FUND.

OF THAT $18.9 MILLION, $8 MILLION IS CASH AND ABOUT $10.9 MILLION OF CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AGAIN, THAT WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO ANY TO AUTHORIZE THE ABILITY TO ISSUE THE DEBT.

AND ALL THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES ARE 100% CASH FUNDED.

AND AS WE PREVIOUSLY NOTED, THIS JUST GIVES YOU ANOTHER DEPICTION OF ALL THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES AND THE BONDS.

AND YOU CAN JUST SEE A VISUAL LOOK AS THE SPLIT AS IT RELATES TO CASH FUNDING VERSUS THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.

AND AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THAT THE DEBT, THE GENERAL FUND PORTION WILL BE FUNDED OUT OF THE .0.055 TAX RATE THAT COUNCIL ESTABLISHED IN THE BUDGET THAT YOU APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER, AND THE UTILITY FUND PORTION, THAT $10.8 MILLION WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH USER FEES BASED ON RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS CONSUMPTION OF THEIR WATER AND SEWER.

AND THAT'S HOW WE REPAY THOSE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.

THE $10.8 MILLION AND AGAIN, THE $6.6 MILLION WOULD BE USED FUNDING SOURCE WOULD BE THE DEBT TAX RATE THAT YOU ESTABLISH BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 0.055.

THIS SLIDE REALLY GIVES A GREAT DEPICTION OF THE OVERALL CITY STRATEGY.

FOR YEARS, WE'VE DISCUSSED OUR DEBT MANAGEMENT WITH THE DESIRE TO REDUCE OUR DEBT, AND I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST SLIDE THAT REALLY DEPICTS THAT OUR STRATEGY HAS WORKED OVER THE YEARS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT FISCAL YEAR 2024, OUR DEBT AS A PERCENT OF ASSESSED VALUE AT 0.28%.

AND EARLY ON, OUR GOAL WAS TO BE 2% AND THEN GRADUALLY REDUCE IT.

SO YOU CAN SEE OVER THE YEARS OUR PRACTICE HAS WORKED.

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IT IS PRUDENT TO HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DEBT.

I THINK THE BEST WAY TO EQUATE THIS TO THE EVERYDAY HOUSEHOLD IS THAT NORMALLY WHEN YOU PURCHASE A HOUSE, YOU HAVE TO ISSUE DEBT TO PURCHASE A HOUSE, YOU PUT CASH DOWN AND THEN YOU FINANCE THE REMAINING PORTION.

THAT'S BEEN THE CITY STRATEGY OVER THE YEARS.

ANY LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE, WE PUT CASH TO REDUCE THE DEBT AMOUNT, AND THEN THE OTHER AMOUNT THAT'S REQUIRED TO ISSUE DEBT TO BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS SIMILAR, VERY SIMILAR TO THE HOUSEHOLD OF CASH DOWN FINANCE THE BALANCE OF YOUR HOME AS OPPOSED TO SAVING UNTIL YOU CAN FUND A HOME WITH CASH. SO THAT SAME STRATEGY HAS WORKED FOR THE CITY OVER TIME, AS INDICATED ON THIS SLIDE.

ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS WITH THE CITY'S DEBT.

AND OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, 100% OF THE PROPERTY TAX.

AGAIN, THE PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED DEBT WILL BE PAID OFF IN FULL AND IN JUST A FEW YEARS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, OVER OUR THREE KEY THINGS IS OUR PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED DEBT PER CAPITA HAS BEEN REDUCED DRASTICALLY.

2010 IT WAS $3,500 AND NOW IN 2024 IS $1,100.

SO AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER TESTAMENT TO THE STRATEGY, A DEBT STRATEGY THAT WE'VE USED OVER THE YEARS.

SO, SHARON, WILL YOU SEND THESE SLIDES AROUND? YOU MIGHT HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS. WILL YOU FORWARD THESE SLIDES BACK AROUND TO COUNCIL.

SURE. AT SOME POINT, BE HAPPY TO.

WHAT CAN I ASK? COULD YOU JUST HAVE A BACK OF THE ENVELOPE GENERAL PERCENTAGE OF WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR OUTSTANDING DEBT IS IN THIS PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED BUCKET THAT WILL BE RETIRED WITHIN TEN YEARS? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OR THE 100% WILL BE PAID OFF WITHIN TEN YEARS.

OF THE OF THE CITY'S TOTAL DEBT HOW MUCH OF THIS PROPERTY, HOW MUCH OF THAT TOTAL DEBT IS THE PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED DEBT THAT WILL BE PAID OFF IN UNDER TEN YEARS? 100%. BUT WE HAVE OTHER DEBT LIKE UTILITY FUNDS.

WE HAVE SELF-SUPPORTING DEBT.

YOU HAVE THE UTILITY FUND.

YES. SBDC, CRIME CONTROL AND CDC ALSO HAVE DEBT.

YES. SO YOU WILL KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL CITY DEBT.

YES. ALL FUNDING SOURCES.

YES. THAT'S PROBABLY THAT PROBABLY REPRESENTS SOMEWHERE AROUND 25, 28% OF OUR OVERALL DEBT.

THE PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED.

YES. IT'S THE SMALLEST PORTION OF OUR DEBT IS PROPERTY TAX DEBT.

AND THE REST OF IT THINGS THAT WE DO, LIKE SBDC DEBT OR SBDC, FOR INSTANCE.

I THINK IT'S LIKE $24 MILLION IN OUTSTANDING DEBT, WHICH WAS TO FUND OUR PARKS, WHICH ALL OF THAT WOULD BE PAID OFF, I BELIEVE, IN TEN YEARS.

BUT THAT'S SELF-SUPPORTING DEBT, SELF-SUPPORTING DEBT FOR SALES TAX, CDC, SELF-SUPPORTING DEBT.

THAT'S THE SALES TAX RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION OF THE MARK.

AND THEN YOU HAVE UTILITY FUND.

THAT'S HOW WE BUILD OUR INFRASTRUCTURE LINES, OUR WATER SEWER LINES.

AND THAT'S PAID OFF WITH USER FEES BASED ON CONSUMPTION OF THE USER.

AND JUST TO JUST, YOU KNOW, CAPTURE CAPITAL STRUCTURE IN GENERAL, THAT SELF-SUPPORTING DEBT, WE HAVE A LIMIT TO HOW MUCH WE CAN BORROW OFF OF THAT.

AND THAT'S BASED ON FUTURE PROJECTION OF THAT REVENUE, CORRECT? YES. AND OBVIOUSLY, JUST LIKE IF YOU WERE TAKING OUT A LINE OF CREDIT FOR YOUR BUSINESS OR WHATEVER, YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO BE CONSERVATIVE WHEN MOST PEOPLE ARE CONSERVATIVE WITH THAT AND YOU'RE NOT BORROWING NEARLY UP TO YOUR CAPACITY.

SO, SO ABSOLUTELY.

SO YOU ARE CONFIDENT THAT THAT SELF-SUPPORTING DEBT IS TRULY SELF-SUPPORTING.

YES. YEAH. AND THAT'S PART OF THE TESTIMONY OF THAT IS THE TRIPLE A BOND RATING THAT WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY THAT LOOK AT THAT LOOKS AT OUR DEBT STRATEGY.

YEAH. AND THEIR APPROACH IS SIMILAR TO OURS.

THEY LOOK OUT IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.

WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON OF THE DEBT THAT'S PLANNED RELATED TO NOT ONLY LOOKING AT THE DEBT WE HAVE PLANNED.

THEY MONITOR AND LOOK, ARE WE DELAYING INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS FOR A LATER DATE? THAT GOES INTO THEIR ANALOGY OF WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE TRIPLE A BOND RATING.

AS FAR AS YOUR FISCAL MANAGEMENT, ARE YOU MANAGING THE BUSINESS TODAY AS WELL AS MANAGING YOUR FUTURE REQUIREMENTS? GOTCHA. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I.

OKAY. NOW LET'S TAKE A LOOK OF LOOKING AHEAD.

LOOKING AHEAD AS THE PROGRAM THAT'S PRESENTED TO YOU.

YOU'RE APPROVING THE FUNDING TO FUND THE FISCAL YEAR 2024, BUT IT ALSO IS A FIVE YEAR LOOK TO SHOW WHAT'S IN THE FUTURE, WHAT'S PLANNED.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LARGEST ELEMENTS HERE BASED ON THE GREEN SECTION, THAT'S THE PARKS, THAT'S THE SOUTHLAKE SPORTS COMPLEX.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SUCH A LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNT WITH THE DARK GREEN FOR 26 AND 27.

THAT'S THE PROJECTION OF POTENTIALLY COMPLETING THAT PARK.

THE OTHER LARGE COMPONENT IS THE LIGHT BLUE.

THAT'S OUR WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE THE TWO LARGEST, LARGEST AREAS OF FUTURE PLANS IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE CORE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED TO WATER AND SEWER.

AND THEN THE PARK, THE COMPLETION OF THE SPORT SOUTHLAKE SPORTS COMPLEX.

AGAIN THIS PROGRAM IN SUMMARY, IT IS A SOLID PLAN CONSIDERING OUR FUTURE READINESS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR SUSTAINABILITY INTO THE FUTURE, AS WELL AS JUST

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AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, KEEP AN EYE ON OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE THAT'S REQUIRED AND JUST ACHIEVE THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY.

AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS.

IF APPROVED THIS EVENING, STAFF WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FINAL PROJECT FUNDING PIECE AND THAT WOULD BE THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION WITH FINAL AUTHORIZATION AT SOME POINT IN APRIL MAY THAT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.

OTHER THAN THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

COUNCIL. YES. COULD YOU GO BACK TO ONE OF THE EARLIER SLIDES WHERE IT HAS THE 2024 NUMBERS AND THE.

I THINK THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE WITH UTILITY FUND? YES. SO FOR 2024, WE'RE LOOKING AT.

$41.6 MILLION IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, $24.1 MILLION PAID FOR IN CASH, WHICH IS 58%, AND $17.5 MILLION IN BONDS OR COS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND.

OR THE THE UTILITY FUND HAS ITS OWN FUNDING SOURCE, AND IT'S PAID FOR WITH THE USER FEE.

SO THAT'S NOT WHERE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT.

BUT I THINK I HAVE A LITTLE HEARTBURN WITH WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BIG NUMBER OF $17.5 MILLION IN BONDS IN ONE YEAR, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, IN YEARS PAST, WE'VE PAID DOWN DEBT. AND YOU SAW THAT GRAPH THAT HAD THE THE DEBT GOING DOWN BOTH IN PERCENTAGE OF DEBT TO ASSESS VALUE AND ALSO IN JUST RAW DOLLARS. BUT I THINK I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE THE NON UTILITY FUND DEBT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND WHAT KIND OF OPTIONS WE MIGHT HAVE IF WE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE THINGS AROUND, MOVE THINGS TO A SUBSEQUENT YEAR.

THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M FOCUSED ON.

IT'S NOT THE UTILITY FUND.

SO THE OVERALL CIP FOR THE GENERAL FUND, I BELIEVE IT WAS 14, 15, 16 MILLION.

SO OF THAT AMOUNT, THE $6.6 MILLION OF THE BONDS, A LARGE PORTION OF THE OVERALL CIP, HERE'S THE PORTION THAT'S RELATED TO THE ROADWAY AND SIDEWALK INVESTMENTS O F THAT $6.6, A PORTION OF THAT FUNDING COULD WOULD FUND A PART OF THESE PROJECTS, AS WELL AS FOR THE TOWN HALL PLAZA.

WE HAVE $2 MILLION OF GENERAL FUND DEBT THAT'S ALLOCATED TO THIS PROJECT IS A LARGE ITEM.

THAT'S A PROJECT THAT WE HAVEN'T STARTED YET.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LIBRARY, MULTI-USE FACILITY, $4 MILLION.

SO YOU HAVE $4 MILLION FROM THE LIBRARY USE FACILITY, $2 MILLION FROM THE TOWN HALL, PARK PLAZA, OR ANY OF THE PROJECTS ON THIS SLIDE IN COMBINATION, IF WE WANTED TO SHIFT PRIORITIES AS IT RELATES TO FUNDING, WHICH PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024.

IS THAT $4 MILLION FOR THE LIBRARY DEBT? OR I GUESS IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S IF IT'S CASH, YOU JUST REALLOCATE.

YEAH. IT'S CASH. WE WOULD JUST REALLOCATE OUR PROJECTS TO WHERE IF YOU WANTED TO REDUCE THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, WE COULD REDUCE THE CASH AND PUT LESS CASH TOWARD TOWN HALL PLAZA AND LESS CASH TO THE LIBRARY, SINCE THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT STARTED, AND THAT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF OVERALL DEBT THAT WE WOULD ISSUE, WE WOULD JUST SHIFT THE PROJECTS AROUND.

I MEAN, THERE'S TWO, TWO BIG PROJECTS, OR ANY OF THE PROJECTS ON THIS SLIDE, BUT I WILL NOTE THE ONLY NEW FUNDING IS THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM.

SO THE OTHER EIGHT PROGRAMS OR PROJECTS ARE DESIGNED UNDERWAY OR IN THE PIPELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION.

WELL, ROADWAY AND SIDEWALK, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T SLOW DOWN OUR INVESTMENT INTO ROADWAY AND SIDEWALK PROJECTS.

BUT GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

I MEAN, I'LL JUST BE HONEST.

I THINK THE TOWN HALL PLAZA AND THEN THE LIBRARY ARE NICE TO HAVES, NOT MUST HAVES.

SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO ELIMINATE $6 MILLION IN, IN, IN GENERAL FUND DEBT, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE PLACES TO TALK ABOUT IT.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A NO TO EITHER OF THEM NECESSARILY.

THIS IS THIS WOULD BE A, PUT A PIN IN IT FOR A YEAR AND SEE HOW THINGS LOOK NEXT YEAR.

WELL, AND I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW, BUT $10 MILLION FOR THE PLAZA SEEMS LOW TO ME.

BASED ON OUR RECENT EXPERIENCE WITH THE RISING CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THE RISE IN EVERYTHING, ALL THE EXPENSES.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE INTO THE WEEDS OF THAT THIS SUMMER AT OUR WORKSHOP.

AND SO MAYBE THAT'S A BETTER TIME TO GET A HANDLE ON IT BECAUSE I.

YOU KNOW, YOU JUST START THINKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE MAYBE NEED.

THERE ARE SOME NEEDS IN THIS, I THINK IN THE PLAZA, FOR SURE.

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AND SO YEAH, I AGREE, MAYBE DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BUT $10 MILLION SEEMS LOW TO ME.

AND I'M NOT THE EXPERT.

NO IT IS LOW. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.

SO BY NO MEANS WAS THAT INDICATING THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE COST OF THE PROJECT.

HISTORICALLY, WITH THE LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, WE WILL SET UP A FUNDING SOURCE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE IT LATER.

SO THAT WAS JUST GETTING STARTED TO PUT SOME FUNDING.

THE BEGINNING, THE BEGINNING OF THE FUNDING.

YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH. SO FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT, ARE WE OKAY WITH GOING AHEAD WITH THE UTILITY FUND PART GOING AHEAD WITH DEBT FOR THAT.

BUT PERHAPS TABLING UNTIL OUR SUMMER WORKSHOP AND WE WORK THROUGH THE TOWN HALL, PARK PLAZA, THE LIBRARY OR WHATEVER ELSE DO WE HAVE TO DO IT ALL RIGHT NOW OR IN MARCH OR APRIL WHEN WE MEET WITH RATING AGENCIES, THERE'S A FEE, SO I WOULD RATHER MEET WITH THEM ONCE AND GO TO THE YOU HAVE YOUR, DIFFERENT BUSINESSES WHO USE TO DO A BOND SALE AND YOU PAY FOR THE SALE.

SO IF WE'RE WANTED TO WAIT TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT, I WOULD RECOMMEND WAITING AND DOING THE BOND SALE AT ONE TIME AS OPPOSED TO PAYING FEES TWICE. OKAY. JUST IN A LEVEL OF SAVING MONEY.

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE SAYING DELAY ALL OF IT UNTIL WE'RE READY IF THE DESIRE IS POTENTIALLY TO SELL GENERAL FUND DEBT, BUT MAYBE WAIT TO SEE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

I WOULD RECOMMEND WAITING BEFORE SELLING ANY OF THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION TO SAVE IN FUNDING, INCLUDING UTILITY FUNDS, INCLUDING UTILITY FUND.

I WILL WAIT, BUT BUT WE WE COULD MAKE A DECISION TO TABLE THE PLAZA AND THE LIBRARY FUNDING RIGHT NOW AND THEN YOU DON'T.

THEN YOU COULD STILL DO IT ALL AT ONCE, RIGHT? YES. IF WE IF CITY COUNCIL MAKES A DECISION THAT AT THIS TIME WERE THE DESIRE IS NOT TO SELL CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION FOR THE GENERAL FUND, THEN WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE UTILITY FUND.

BUT IF THE DESIRE IS POTENTIALLY TO STILL ISSUE DEBT, AND INSTEAD OF ISSUING $6.6 MILLION, YOU WANT TO ISSUE $3 MILLION.

I WOULD RECOMMEND WE WAIT AND DO IT ALL AT ONCE TO SAVE IN FEES.

SURE. WELL, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO YOU FROM A LOGISTICS STANDPOINT? DOES THAT PUT ANY OF THESE PROJECTS BEHIND? WE DO HAVE $8 MILLION.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE PART OF, WE HAVE $8.6 MILLION RELATED TO THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE CENTER.

SO WE COULD ALWAYS PUT THE DEBT RELATED TO THIS AND ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS COULD MOVE FORWARD PRETTY MUCH.

THERE'S A WAY WE COULD MOVE AROUND PROJECTS WITH THAT TIMELINE.

I THINK WE JUST MAKE DECISIONS TONIGHT.

OKAY. SO WE COULD LET ME LET ME ASK ONE MORE QUESTION, THOUGH.

DIRECTOR JACKSON, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH MULTIPLE AND SO FORTH, BUT, CERTAINLY NO GUARANTEES.

BUT ISN'T THE ENVIRONMENT NOW LEANING TOWARDS A MORE COMPETITIVE RATE THE LONGER WE WAIT? SO AT LEAST OFFSETTING ANY ADDITIONAL FEES? IF WE WENT TO THE MARKET TWICE BEFORE, WE WOULD WE BRING A SALE TO YOU.

WE WOULD MEET WITH THE RATING BOND COUNCIL AND LOOK AT THE ECONOMY AND LOOK WHAT THE ECONOMISTS ARE SAYING, AND FIND THE SWEET SPOT TO SEE WHEN THE REDUCTION OR WHAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING.

SO THERE'S A CHANCE IT COULD BE 25 OR 50 BASIS POINTS.

AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING.

YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEES ARE TO GO TWICE, BUT I MY GUESS IS A QUARTER POINT IS EASILY GOING TO PAY FOR ANY FEES TO, TO TO GO TWICE AND PROBABLY MORE THAN WHETHER THOSE FEES WOULD BE BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT A QUARTER POINTS.

HUGE AND POTENTIALLY.

YEAH. SO I WOULDN'T I MEAN I'M GOOD WITH MAKING THE DECISIONS TONIGHT, BUT I WOULDN'T IF WE'RE NOT READY.

I'M NOT HUNG UP ON IT EITHER BECAUSE I'M NOT ALL THAT CONCERNED ABOUT GOING TWICE.

WHEN YOU'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE IT DOESN'T APPEAR RATES ARE GOING UP AND IN FACT THEY'RE GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, RIGHT.

SO LET ME ASK THIS.

COULD WE TELL YOU DIRECTIONALLY WE DON'T WANT TO ISSUE GENERAL FUND CO'S.

YES. AND THEN WAIT TILL SUMMER WORKSHOP TO WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS ON THAT OR NO.

YES. IF THE DIRECTION IS THE DESIRE IS NOT TO ISSUE ANY GENERAL FUND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.

THAT GIVES US WHAT WE NEED.

AND THEN THE DETAILS CAN COME LATER.

WELL, AND I THINK I'LL JUST WEIGH IN.

WHAT I THINK SHE'S TRYING TO SAY IS FOR THOSE PROJECTS WHERE WE'VE PROGRAMED CASH AND THEY HAVEN'T STARTED YET, OF COURSE, WE WOULD WORK WITH YOU OVER THE SUMMER ON A PLAN TO PUT THEM IN THE PIPELINE FOR THE NEXT YEAR OF FUNDING.

THAT WAY WE DON'T DELAY FUNDING PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS.

WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CAPITAL PROGRAM AS PLANNED FOR THE UTILITY FUND AND THE REMAINING GENERAL FUND PROJECTS, BUT WE WORK THROUGH WITH YOU ALL SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT ARE MAYBE NOT YET AS FIRM FOR THESE CASH FUNDED PROJECTS THAT ARE WE'RE JUST SETTING ASIDE MONEY FOR RIGHT NOW.

I JUST I DON'T WANT TO DELAY OTHER COS IF YOU IF YOU NEED THEM.

I DON'T WANT TO DELAY THE THE ROADWAY AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

BUT BUT WE CAN JUST AS A POLICY BASIS, SAY THIS YEAR WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH GENERAL FUND COS AND WE COULD PROCEED.

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BUT WE BUT WE CAN TELL YOU DIRECTIONALLY, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DELAY THE ROADWAY AND SIDEWALK PLAN.

RIGHT. IT'S JUST THESE KIND OF THE NICE TO HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

RIGHT. AND WE WILL MOVE ACCORDING TO THAT DIRECTION.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. ARE YOU GUYS GOOD WITH THAT? I MEAN, LISTEN, IT'S STILL IT'S A BAD BORROWING ENVIRONMENT, SHAKY ECONOMIC TIMES.

IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR.

THE REALITY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HOLDING OFF ON $6.6 MILLION IN DEBT FEELS LIKE A PRUDENT FINANCIAL DECISION RIGHT NOW.

YOU GUYS GOOD WITH IT? OKAY. GOT WHAT YOU NEED.

DO YOU NEED, DO YOU NEED A MOTION HERE OR.

YES, WE DO NEED. OKAY.

AN ACTION. DO WE NEED TO TWEAK THAT MOTION OTHER THAN WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED OR HOW DO WE WORD THAT GIVEN THE DIRECTION ON GENERAL FUND DEBT? IF THE DIRECTION IS NOT TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.

I THINK YOU APPROVE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE REDUCTION OF $6.6 MILLION IN FUNDING.

AND THAT GIVES US THE LEEWAY TO WORK WITHIN THE PROJECTS, AND THAT GIVES US A TOTAL CIP BUDGET.

OKAY, I THINK I CAN DO THAT.

GOT IT. TRY.

OKAY. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK, SO LET'S, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, LET'S TAKE A MOTION.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 9A ADOPTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2028 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM, NOTING THAT WE'RE ADOPTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2028 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM AS PRESENTED.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE $6.6 MILLION WORTH OF GENERAL FUND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, AS DISCUSSED THIS EVENING.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OKAY. ITEM 9A PASSES SIX ZERO.

EXCELLENT WORK. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC FORUM.

IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT AT PUBLIC FORUM? SEEING NONE.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

SO THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.