5. Consider: Approval of the minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held on March 7, 2024.

[9. Consider: ZA24-0002, Specific Use Permit for Outdoor Sales or Services for Tropical Sno of Southlake on property described as Lot 63, F. Throop No. 1511 Addition and Lot 1, Block 1, Yates Corner Addtion, City of Southlake, Tarrant county, Texas, and located at 2190 E. Dove Road and 1604 N. Kimball Avenue, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalized Site Plan District and "S-P-1" Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #4. PUBLIC HEARING]

YEAH. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TROPICAL SNO OF SOUTHLAKE.

THEY ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A RENEWAL FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THEIR OUTDOOR SALES AND SERVICES.

AND THIS IS LOCATED AT 2190 EAST DOVE ROAD AND 1604 NORTH CAMPBELL AVENUE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS RETAIL COMMERCIAL AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS SP1 AND SP2 SITE PLAN DISTRICTS.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE.

AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE SNOW CONE STAND.

AND WE HAVE THE YATES CORNER CORNER STORE HERE.

AND THEN THEY HAVE PARKING OVER HERE.

SINCE THEIR LAST RENEWAL, THE APPLICANT HAS REPAINTED THE SNOW CONE STAND REPLACED THE SIGNAGE AND JUST MADE SOME OTHER LITTLE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTOS. THESE ARE JUST SOME RECENT SITE PHOTOS THAT THEY HAVE.

WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT.

ALTHOUGH THAT LETTER IN SUPPORT, THEY DID EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT TRASH.

BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

JENNIFER, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, MA'AM. HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? I'M GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

IF YOU WOULD COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

I THINK WE GENERALLY GET AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT IF YOU.

YOU CAN COME UP HERE TO THE PODIUM.

YEAH. YEP.

I'M RACHEL BRAUER.

I LIVE AT 3030 LAKE DRIVE IN SOUTHLAKE.

I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE MY BUSINESS IS.

HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY, BUT MAYBE I'M WRONG.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

YOU NEVER KNOW, DR.

SPRINGER, YOU CANNOT RESIST.

THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE TRASH.

SO ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T GET STREWN AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YES. AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE KIDS DO EXTRA TRASH PICKUPS SO THAT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR THE RESIDENT.

VERY GOOD. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. OKAY.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

ITEM NUMBER NINE ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

YES, SIR. COME ON UP.

IF YOU WOULD DO ME A FAVOR AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU GET TO THE MIC.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MICHAEL CONROY.

I LIVE AT 1780 NORTH KIMBALL.

I'M THE FIRST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THE SNOW CONE STAND.

I'M IN TOTAL SUPPORT OF IT, I LOVE IT.

I GET A SNOW CONE THERE EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS.

MY GRANDKIDS LOVE IT AND I WAS APPRECIATIVE OF THE YOUNG LADY CAME UP AND SAID MAY ADDRESS MY CONCERN.

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THE CONCERN IS, IS WHAT COMES WITH SNOW CONE STANDS IS LITTLE NAPKINS AND STYROFOAM CUPS AND SOUTHERLY WINDS.

AND LAST YEAR AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE YATES [INAUDIBLE], BUT IT'S MY CHANCE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TRASH IN MY PROPERTY ALONG THE KIMBLE ROAD.

IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.

AND SO ALL I'M ASKING THE OWNER OR THE MANAGER IS TO EXPAND THEIR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY.

DON'T MAKE IT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.

MAYBE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT LARGER AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY AND SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO WALK AND I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THIS LOOKS GOOD AND I'M GOING TO TAKE CARE OF MY STUFF.

AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR.

AND I THINK THE YOUNG LADY SAID SHE WOULD DO THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT CHANNEL WAS TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS.

SO I CHOSE THIS CHANNEL.

BUT THAT'S ALL.

AND AGAIN, TOTAL SUPPORT.

THEY'RE OUT THERE WORKING ON THE BUILDING TODAY, DOING THE RIGHT THING.

SO I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES, THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF A NICE RETAIL STORE RIGHT THERE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY. IT DOES? YES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR, APPRECIATE THAT.

DENNIS, I KNOW THE CITY HAS THE OBVIOUSLY THE AUTHORITY AND THE PURVIEW TO GO OUT AND ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IF THEY COME UP IN THE FUTURE.

ANYTHING YOU CAN ADD TO THAT? CERTAINLY IF THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM, WE CAN HAVE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.

MAKE A RUN THROUGH THAT AREA PERIODICALLY AND NOTIFY OWNERS WHEN THERE'S AN ACCUMULATION OF TRASH NEAR THEIR PROPERTY AND CAN REACH OUT TO THE SNOW CONE OPERATORS IF NEED BE, TO ASK THEM TO ADDRESS IT AS WELL.

OKAY. AND I THINK PROBABLY WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO, DEPENDING ON HOW THE MOTION GOES, IS ADDRESS THAT IN THE MOTION AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S A NON-ISSUE GOING FORWARD.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.

AND IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER NINE ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER ZA24-0002, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MARCH 15TH, 2024, AND NOTING A NEIGHBORS CONCERNS ABOUT EFFORTS TO CLEAN UP AND IMPROVE THE CLEANUP ALONG KIMBALL. AND THE APPLICANTS, I GUESS.

WILLINGNESS OR ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THAT.

YEAH, MAYBE. APPLICANTS' WILLINGNESS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND PERFORM THAT.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES FIVE ZERO.

THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU SIR FOR COMING OUT.

LOOKS LIKE HE'S GONE ALREADY.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER TEN.

[10. Consider: ZA24-0005, Specific Use Permit For a Mass Gathering for Southlake Carroll Dragons Homecoming Parade on property described as Southlake Town Square, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas; and generally located between N. Carroll Avenue, E. Southlake Boulevard and S.H. 114, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "DT" Downtown District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

ZA24-005. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE DRAGON HOMECOMING PARADE.

AS CARROLL ISD IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A RENEWAL FOR THEIR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THEIR MASS GATHERING FOR THEIR CARROLL DRAGONS HOMECOMING PARADE, AND THE LOCATION IS SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE. THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AT TOWN SQUARE IS TOWN CENTER.

THE ZONING IS DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF TOWN SQUARE.

AND THIS EXHIBIT SHOWS THE PARADE ROUTE AND SOME OF THE EVENT DETAILS.

THEY'RE REQUESTING RENEWAL OF THE CURRENT SUP.

IT'S THE SAME PARADE ROUTE AND SAME CARNIVAL, PEP RALLY, SAME SIMILAR SETUP TO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

THERE'S GOING TO BE TENTS, TABLES, CHAIRS SET UP IN FAMILY PARK.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE VENDORS.

THERE'S CARNIVAL, OF COURSE, THE PARADE AND A PEP RALLY.

AND THIS WILL OCCUR WEDNESDAY IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER.

IT'S A ONE DAY EVENT.

THE SETUP STARTS AT AROUND 9 A.M..

THEY HAVE A CARNIVAL AND THE PARADE, AND THE WHOLE EVENT ENDS AT 8:30.

HERE'S SOME EVENT PHOTOS.

WE HAVE RECEIVED NO PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, JENNIFER, THIS HAS GONE ON UNDER THE SAME SUP.

I REALIZE RENEWALS, BUT ESSENTIALLY SINCE 2013.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND PRIOR TO THAT THEY'VE HAD IT.

THEY HAD EVENTS AT THE STADIUM.

AND THEN EVEN PRIOR TO THAT, THEY DID HAVE IT IN TOWN SQUARE.

BUT WHEN THEY WERE HAVING IN TOWN SQUARE PRIOR TO THAT, IT DIDN'T REQUIRE AN SUP.

IT DIDN'T HIT THE THRESHOLD FOR REQUIRING AN SUP.

AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, NO, NO PROBLEMS WITH THIS EVENT? NO, NO.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR.

COME ON UP, MR. WILSON.

HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? I AM SO VERY WELL, THANK YOU.

RYAN WILSON, PRINCIPAL, CARROLL SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL, AND I SUPPOSE THAT I RESIDE OR LIVE MOST OF MY DAYS AT 1501 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, CARROLL SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

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AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AS WAS STATED, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A GOOD LONG WHILE.

IT APPEARS TO ONLY BE GROWING IN SIZE AND IN INTEREST.

AND IT IS QUITE THE WEEK FOR US.

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF OUR HOMECOMING WEEK THAT THEN FOLLOWS INTO OUR HOMECOMING GAME.

AND THEN ON TO OUR HOMECOMING DANCE.

AND SO IT'S FULL OF FANFARE THAT BEGINS HERE IN THIS BELOVED SPACE.

AND SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR OUR CONTINUED USE OF OF THE SPACE.

VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NONE. LOOK AT THAT. THIS IS VERY IMPRESSIVE.

ONE QUICK QUESTION.

WHERE ARE WE AT ON THE LONE STAR CUP.

AND ARE THERE ANY OTHER STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS IN THE MIX? THAT IS A FANTASTIC QUESTION, SIR.

WHEN LAST WEEK WAS THE SECOND READ ON THE LONE STAR CUP.

WE ARE UP BY A VERY SOLID 20 POINTS.

AND SO IT LOOKS AS THOUGH WE DON'T WANT TO CURSE ANYTHING.

AND I'LL KNOCK ON THIS VERY WONDERFUL WOOD UP HERE.

IT LOOKS AS THOUGH WE WILL BE BRINGING HOME OUR NINTH LONE STAR CUP, WHICH IS AN ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL THING FOR CARROLL ISD.

WE'VE GOT BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL ACADEMIC UIL STILL YET TO OCCUR.

AND WE ARE AT SOCCER.

I'M SORRY. COACH JACOBSON WOULD NOT WANT TO FORGET ABOUT SOCCER.

THAT'S STILL FORTHCOMING. SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CONTENDERS THAT WILL BRING HOME SOME MAJOR POINTS FOR OUR LONE STAR CUP ADVENTURES.

ONLY A COUPLE OF TEAMS OUT OF THE WOODLANDS STAND TO GIVE US A GOOD CHALLENGE WHEN IT COMES TO BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.

OTHERWISE, CERTAINLY IN LADIES SOCCER WE FEEL TREMENDOUSLY CONFIDENT AND HOPE TO BE BRINGING HOME NUMBER NINE.

OUTSTANDING NEWS.

THANK YOU SIR. WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE.

AND GOOD LUCK MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU MUCH. AND WE'LL GO WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TEN ON THE AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

SEEING NO ONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I THINK THIS OUGHT TO BE THE EASIEST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

AND WITH THAT IN MIND, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TEN ON THE AGENDA.

CASE NUMBER ZA24-0005, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MARCH 15TH, 2024.

HAVE A MOTION DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES FIVE ZERO.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU ALL.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 11 ZA24-0006.

[11. Consider: ZA24-0006, Specific Use Permit For Telecommunications Towers, Antennas, or Ancillary Structures for NuStar on property described as Tract 1, Brumlow Industrial District, an addtion to the City of Southlake, Tarrant Coounty, Texas and located at 1700 Mustang Court, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "I-2" Heavy Industrial District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING]

SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER.

THANK YOU, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN.

THIS IS ANOTHER SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

A REQUEST FOR AN ADDITION TO AN ANTENNA TOWER LOCATED ON THE NUSTAR SITE ON SOUTHWESTERN STREET.

THEY ARE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL 20FT ON TOP OF AN EXISTING TOWER.

THE SITE HAS THE FUTURE LAND USES OF MIXED USE AND INDUSTRIAL.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS I-2 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE IN QUESTION.

THIS IS A GENERAL LAYOUT OF THE SITE SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE TOWERS.

THIS RED DOT, THE GENERAL LOCATION AND ITS SETBACKS FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTY BOUNDARIES.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED TOWER, ALTHOUGH IT BE BETTER SEEN IN A.

KIND OF SHOWING WHERE IT EXISTS TODAY.

THIS IS A VIEW FROM STATE HIGHWAY 26 LOOKING TOWARDS INWARD TOWARDS THE FACILITY.

THE EXISTING TOWER IS AT 30FT RIGHT HERE.

THEY'RE AGAIN REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL 20FT ON TOP.

THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR BETTER COMMUNICATIONS TO THEIR ADDITIONAL SITE TO THE NORTHEAST.

THESE TOWERS DO COMMUNICATE TO EACH OTHER JUST SIMPLY THE I GUESS, OPERATIONS OF THE SITE ITSELF.

THESE AREN'T CELL TOWERS OR ANYTHING USED IN THAT NATURE.

THE PURPOSE OF AND THE REASON FOR THIS SUP IS THE HEIGHT IS BEYOND WHAT CAN BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

SO THEY'RE SIMPLY COMING BEFORE THE BOARD TO EXPAND THE USE ON THE SITE BY INCREASING THE HEIGHT.

THIS IS AGAIN THE LOCATION OF THE TOWER JUST SHOWING A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING 30 FOOT TOWER.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO RESPONSES RECEIVED AS OF THE TIME OF THIS MEETING.

I KNOW THE APPLICANT'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANY QUESTIONS FOR REAGAN? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, REAGAN.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 11?

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YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

COME ON DOWN, IF YOU WOULD. AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

SORRY. AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE YOU FROM GOING THROUGH THAT, BUT I WILL ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY, IF YOU WOULD.

YES, SIR. MY NAME IS THOMAS EITZEN, AND WE OFFICE AT 1700 MUSTANG COURT, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

AS NOTED, THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT JUST TO SIMPLY EXTEND THE EXISTING TOWER.

THERE'S SOME DEVELOPMENT GOING ON JUST NEXT DOOR TO US.

WE HAVE TO GET THAT EXTRA HEIGHT TO ENSURE RELIABLE OPERATIONAL COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OUR TWO TERMINALS.

THIS PRESENTATION VERY QUICKLY DOES OUTLINE THAT BORE YOU WITH THE DETAILS.

BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS IS JUST OPERATIONAL COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE TWO TERMINALS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO THIS IS NOT FOR VOICE COMMUNICATION SO MUCH AS JUST YOUR OPERATIONAL.

CORRECT. LIKE YOU SAW I SAW IT SAID THAT IT WAS A WIN.

SO IT'S NOT.

AND YOU'RE JUST STRICTLY GOING UP JUST TO CLEAR ANY OBSTRUCTIONS THAT YOU.

YES, SIR. THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW I THINK IS GOING TO BE 42 FOOT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS ONE UP TO 50.

OKAY. AND THEN WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE ANTENNA ABOVE IT OR IS IT FIXED UP LIKE A CELL TOWER.

IT'S LIKE BASICALLY JUST ON TOP.

IT'S FIXED. IT'S A [INAUDIBLE] WI-FI TRANSMITTER.

OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD. THANKS. THANK YOU.

AND THIS WILL HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

THIS WILL MATCH THE OTHER TOWER.

RIGHT. SO THEY'LL BOTH BE 50.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SIR.

IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP.

ITEM NUMBER 11 ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

SEEING NO ONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IN MY MIND, THIS ONE'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

IT MATCHES THE OTHERS.

SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY CONCERNS, I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ONE AS WELL.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 11 ON OUR AGENDA.

ZA CASE NUMBER ZA 24-0006, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MARCH 15TH, 2024. AND YOU WILL MENTION THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

OKAY AND SUBJECT TO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER DATED MARCH 5TH, 2024.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES FIVE ZERO.

THANK YOU SIR. WE APPRECIATE IT.

THAT'S OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WE'LL GO BACK TO THE TOP AND GO WITH ITEMS NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN AND TAKE THOSE TOGETHER ON THE OVERLOOK.

[Items 6 & 7]

SAGE GROUP, ON BEHALF OF MENDEZ LIMITED, IS REQUESTING A LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SIX.

THIS IS FOR THE OVERLOOK.

THE EXISTING LAND USE DESIGNATION IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE PROPOSED LAND USE DESIGNATION IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN ITEM SEVEN IS A ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE OVERLOOK AND WILLOW TREE GARDENS.

THE EXISTING ZONING IS AG AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND SF-1A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS TZD TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT.

STARTING WITH ITEM SIX.

THE FUTURE LAND USE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THE ENTIRE SITE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, BUT THE SUBJECT OF THIS LAND USE AMENDMENT IS JUST THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT.

THIS IS THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT THEY HAD SUBMITTED, BUT IT'S STILL THE OUTLINE FOR THE CHANGE OF THE LAND USE IS STILL THE SAME.

SO THEY'RE GOING FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO OFFICE.

COMMERCIAL IS THE REQUEST.

AND THERE ARE SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

AND I'LL GO THROUGH THESE.

FOR PROPERTIES FRONTING ON CARROLL AVENUE, GARDEN OFFICE USES MAY BE CONSIDERED IF DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNED IN A COMPREHENSIVE MANNER.

THERE'S ALSO A RECOMMENDATION TO BUFFER EXISTING AND FUTURE RESIDENTIAL USES FROM OFFICE USES.

ANY FUTURE CONNECTION OF CROSS LANE TO CARROLL AVENUE IS NOT INTENDED.

A NEW DRIVE CUT AT CARROLL AVENUE AND MAIN STREET IS NOT RECOMMENDED DUE TO EXISTING TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AND VOLUMES AT THIS INTERSECTION AND THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE LIGHT.

AND ANY OFFICE DEVELOPMENT ALONG CARROLL AVENUE SHOULD HAVE CROSS ACCESS BACK TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT 1709 AND TOWER PLAZA, AS WELL AS TO THE OFFICE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH TO ACCESS THE EXISTING DRIVE ON CARROLL AVENUE.

MOVING ON TO ITEM SEVEN.

THE CURRENT ZONING, AS I NOTED PREVIOUSLY, IS AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND SF-1A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

SF-1A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

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AND THESE ARE STREET VIEWS OF THE SITE FROM NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

THIS IS A VIEW FROM CROSS LANE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND THIS IS THE REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THIS PREVIOUS ONE WAS ALSO REVISED.

BUT JUST GOING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL HERE.

THIS WILL SHOW THE REVISIONS THAT WERE MADE.

THERE WAS NUMBER ONE HERE IS THEY REMOVED TWO LOTS.

THERE WAS A LOT REMOVED HERE, AND A LOT BASICALLY REMOVED IN THIS GENERAL AREA HERE.

THE EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE LOCATION HAS CHANGED.

AS YOU RECALL, THERE WAS AN ACCESS GATE ON CROSS LANE, AND NOW THE EMERGENCY ACCESS IS BEING MOVED TO THE SOUTH.

THERE IS A WIDER NORTH DRIVE HERE NOW, AND THEY HAVE REDUCED THE SIZE OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED OFFICE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AS I NOTED, THEY DID REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.

IT'S DOWN TO 23,000FT² NOW.

THESE ARE THE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT JUST NOTING AGAIN THAT THE MAXIMUM BUILDING AREA THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING NOW IS 23,000FT².

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THEY ARE. I'M AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THESE AGAIN, BUT THE MINIMUM OPEN SPACE IS BEEN REVISED TO 20.6%.

THESE ARE THE RENDERINGS.

MORE RENDERINGS OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED ENTRY FEATURE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW.

INTERIOR STREET VIEW.

AND THESE ARE OUR SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES.

AS OF, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ABOUT 4:00 TODAY, WITHIN 200FT, WE RECEIVED TWO LETTERS IN SUPPORT.

THERE ARE MORE HERE SHOWN BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL UNDER ONE OWNERSHIP.

AND OPPOSED WE HAVE 11 OPPOSED WITHIN THE 200FT BOUNDARY.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

JEANNIE, WHAT WAS THE SIZE OF THE OFFICE BUILDING PREVIOUSLY? 26. I THINK IT WAS 26.

YEAH. OKAY. THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU JENNIFER.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEM SIX AND SEVEN? HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING THIS EVENING? YOU WERE HIDING. I WAS TRYING TO HIDE.

MR. VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS CURTIS YOUNG.

1130 NORTH CARROLL HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

WITH ME IS TRAVIS FRANKS, AND OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER WILL BE HERE TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS AS WELL.

OUR CIVIL ENGINEER IS ALSO HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT.

AS YOU NO DOUBT REMEMBER, WE WERE HERE A MONTH AGO AND WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THIS PROJECT, WHY WE FELT IT WAS A GOOD PROJECT AND GO HERE.

BUT WE RECEIVED MULTIPLE COMMENTS FROM YOU FOLKS, AND WE SPENT THE TIME SINCE TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD.

AND I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF GO OVER THE CHANGES AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND WHATEVER.

I'LL GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

HERE WAS THE PLAN THAT WE WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH, 28 LOTS, 26,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING IN THE FRONT.

AND THERE WERE SEVERAL AREAS OF COMMENTS.

AND LET ME KIND OF START AT THE OFFICE BUILDING AND GO BACK.

ONE WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS ENTRY WHICH KIND OF HAS TO SNEAK AROUND AN EXISTING POLE ELECTRIC POLE HERE.

THE THOUGHT WAS THE REQUEST WAS, CAN YOU WIDEN THIS A LITTLE BIT AND PERHAPS NOT MAKE IT SUCH A SHARP TURN? AND IN ADDITION, MAYBE ELIMINATE THESE PARKING SPACES HERE SO THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF STACKING DISTANCE PEOPLE COULD TURN IN AND WOULDN'T HAVE A CONFLICT FOR SOME TIME.

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AND WE WERE ASKING FOR RELIEF ON THE STACKING DISTANCE HERE.

BUT IF WE, IF WE REDUCED THESE TWO SPACES HERE, THEN WE WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARD THING.

SO JUST QUICKLY TOGGLING TO THE CHANGE HERE.

WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THIS ENTRY HERE.

WE'VE WIDENED THE DRIVEWAY TO 30FT TO GIVE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN THERE.

AND WE'VE ELIMINATED THOSE PARKING SPOTS SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, 100 PLUS FEET OF STACKING DISTANCE BEFORE THERE'S ANY CONFLICT.

SO THAT WHOLE ENTRY SEQUENCE SHOULD BE EASILY EASED AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SPACES HAVE BEEN REMOVED THERE. THAT HAS ALSO CHANGED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE OFFICE.

WE PULLED IT BACK FROM THE NORTH IN THIS DIRECTION HERE THE SOUTHERN SIDE IS THE SAME, BUT THIS ADDRESSES SOME OF THE COMMENTS RELATED TO THE.

SITE VISIBILITY ANGLE GOING UP FROM THE NORTH.

AND WE HAVE SOME REVISED DIAGRAMS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT.

BUT THAT WAS A COMMENT AS WELL.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CHANGE IN THE OFFICE SIZE CAME ENTIRELY FROM THE NORTH.

THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT UTILIZING THIS PROPERTY DURING AFTER HOURS ON WEEKENDS FOR IF SOMEONE HAS AN EVENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL.

WE HAVE EXTENDED A SIDEWALK ACROSS HERE ACCESSING THAT.

SO THIS WILL BE VERY ACCESSIBLE TO THE RESIDENCES IN THOSE AFTER HOUR TIMES AND THERE'LL BE SOMETHING WRITTEN IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS OF THE OFFICE BUILDING TO ALLOW THAT TO, TO HAPPEN.

AND REALLY, THE FINAL ISSUE ON THE OFFICE BUILDING WAS RELATED TO SOMETHING THAT JENNY WENT OVER A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, CROSS ACCESS TO THE OTHER OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THE TOWER PLAZA DRIVE HERE.

WE OF COURSE, ARE ARE ADDING A DRIVEWAY HERE TO CROSS ACCESS THIS PROPERTY, WHICH SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO SAY, WELL, WE'LL TURN INTO A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, PROBABLY OFFICE AND THAT THAT THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY, DR.

MENDEZ, OWNS TO HERE THAT THIS PROPERTY WOULD ALSO GRANT ACCESS TO THERE.

SO WHEN ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLETE, THERE WILL BE ACCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE TOWER BOULEVARD HERE AND POSSIBLY EVEN TO THIS OFFICE BUILDING HERE WHEN THIS IS DEVELOPED.

OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT UNDER OUR CONTROL, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE, BUT THIS AT LEAST SHOWS YOU HOW CROSS ACCESS CAN BE COMPLETED THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE.

COMMERCIAL TRACKS.

THIS OF COURSE IS IS STILL RESIDENTIAL AS WELL RIGHT NOW AND MAY REMAIN RESIDENTIAL FOR SOME TIME, BUT ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE SOLD AND DEVELOPED PROBABLY FOR ADDITIONAL MEDICAL OFFICE.

SO THAT ADDRESSES THE CROSS ACCESS THROUGH THERE.

WE NOW WE LOST SOME PARKING SPACES IN HERE.

WE NOW HAVE 80 PARKING SPACES, BUT SINCE THE BUILDING GOT SMALLER, THAT ALL WORKS FROM THE TYPICAL PARKING STANDARDS IN SOUTHLAKE.

THE OTHER THING WAS THERE WAS HAS BEEN CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THEY WOULD, SHOULD, WOULD EVEN BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS TO CROSS LANE OVER HERE.

WE FEEL AND I BELIEVE SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL FOLKS WAS THAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'LL EVER BE ANYTHING GOING THROUGH THERE.

IT'S JUST THERE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE.

BUT IN AN EFFORT TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS THERE ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF THAT CHANGES? WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE REVISED THE PLAN TO PROVIDE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS AT THIS LOCATION HERE.

AND DR.

MENDEZ HAS GRACIOUSLY, GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN HERE, IT WOULD BE EMERGENCY ONLY.

AND WITH THAT THERE, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS ACCESS HERE DOES NOT NEED TO HAPPEN.

SO WE WERE TOLD BY MANY OF THE PEOPLE OVER HERE THAT IF WE ELIMINATED THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE IT MUCH BETTER AND POSSIBLY

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EVEN SUPPORT US.

WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

SO IN DOING SO, THAT ELIMINATED ONE OF THE LOTS HERE.

AND IN TALKING WITH THIS RESIDENT HERE, WE'VE ALSO ELIMINATED ONE OF THE LOTS HERE AS WELL.

SO THERE'S THERE'S NOW A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN ANY OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AND THE CROSS LANE FOLKS.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN, HOWEVER, THOUGH, THAT WE'RE NOT STILL WILLING TO PROVIDE THE TURNAROUND HERE TOO, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ASKED FOR IN THIS LOCATION IN HERE.

AND SO WE WOULD WE WOULD BE WILLING TO KEEP TO DO THAT.

SO THOSE ARE THE BASIC CHANGES WE'VE ADDRESSED THE DENSITY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

WE'VE ADDRESSED ACCESS ACCESS.

WE'VE ADDRESSED THE CROSS ACCESS.

WE'VE ADDRESSED THE ENTRIES FROM FROM CARROLL.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED MANY OF THOSE COMMENTS THAT THAT YOU HAD.

REGARDING TRAFFIC AND THE ENTRY FROM CARROLL.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, THIS IS A PROPOSED LEFT TURN LANE HOODED LEFT TURN LANE.

THERE WOULD ONLY BE LEFT TURNS IN AND NO LEFT TURNS OUT, AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO INVITE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER UP FOR A SHORT PRESENTATION RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC IN THIS.

THANK YOU. DOUG ARNOLD WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, 801 CHERRY STREET FORT WORTH DOWNTOWN.

SO I'M WORKING WITH SANDY AND HER GROUP ON A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS PROJECT.

JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS QUICK TO KEEP IT GOING, BUT THE SITE GENERALLY GENERATES ABOUT 50 TRIPS IN THE PEAK HOUR.

RIGHT AROUND THERE. SO IT'S ABOUT ONE TRIP EVERY MINUTE COMING IN AND OUT OF THIS OUT OF THIS PROJECT IF YOU EQUATE IT TO NUMBER OF MINUTES.

IT EQUATES ABOUT 1 TO 2% INCREASE OF TRAFFIC ALONG.

CARROLL. I KNOW CARROLL IS A BUSY STREET TODAY BUT AS FAR AS THE OVERALL IMPACT FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT IN PARTICULAR, IT'S IT'S REALLY IT'S VERY MINIMAL 1%.

ONE BIG THING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF ON IS A SAFE ENTRY INTO THE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE SOUTH.

SO FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD OR FROM CARROLL FROM THE SOUTH, AND VERY HIGH LEVEL CONCEPT LAYOUT RIGHT NOW.

OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE MORE ENGINEERED IN THE FUTURE IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, BUT SHOWING THAT A LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE COULD, COULD POTENTIALLY WORK. THERE'S AN EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE MEDIAN, A WAYFINDING SIGN THAT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE RELOCATED A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE NORTH.

WE'VE DONE SOME INITIAL LOOKS AT SITE DISTANCE.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A VERTICAL CURVE THROUGH THERE.

IT MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS FROM [INAUDIBLE].

SO I FEEL THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE A SAFE ENTRY INTO THE SITE FROM INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO NORTH AND MAKE A U-TURN OR GO FURTHER UP AND MAKE A U-TURN ON CARROLL.

FROM A WE LOOKED AT BOTH DRIVEWAYS TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY SECONDS OF TIME IT TAKES FOR A VEHICLE TO LEAVE THE SITE TO GET ON TO CARROLL AVENUE.

AND IT'S ABOUT 10S OF DELAY ON AVERAGE PER VEHICLE, WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL LEVEL SERVICE B, SO THERE'S A RANGE OF LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM A TO F. B IS GENERALLY VERY LITTLE CONGESTION.

SO FROM THE TRAFFIC SIDE, WORKING WITH STAFF AGAIN, BUT SHOW THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO WORK ACCEPTABLY.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS NOW OR LATER.

IF ANYTHING COMES UP, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING.

TWO QUESTIONS. YES, TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

AND THIS MAY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED LAST TIME.

I JUST DON'T REMEMBER.

SO WHEN YOU'RE COMING SOUTH ON CARROLL, WHAT IS THE I GUESS THE ELEVATION CHANGE AND THE REASON I'M GOING THERE AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF IS HOW FAR BACK IS THE STACKING OFF OF SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AT ANY GIVEN TIME AND THEN IN CONNECTION WITH THE ELEVATION CHANGE POINT BEING, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN THERE, THE HOODED LEFT TURN, WHAT ARE THE TWO FACTORS THERE? SO WE WENT OUT.

IT WAS TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY.

WE WENT OUT AND DID SOME OBSERVATIONS.

WE ACTUALLY DID A TRAFFIC COUNT AT CARROLL AND MAIN STREET IN THE PM FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE IS THAT THERE'S SOME PROPOSED MEDIAN MODIFICATIONS ALONG CARROLL FOR THE SOUTHBOUND TO REALLY ELIMINATE THE WESTBOUND LEFT OUT OF MAIN STREET TO GO SOUTH SO THAT WE ACTUALLY ACCOUNTED FOR THAT TRAFFIC.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO NORTH NOW TO MAKE A U-TURN ON THIS LEFT TURN LANE.

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SO WE ACTUALLY COUNTED FOR THAT TRAFFIC AS WELL.

WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, WE DIDN'T SEE ANY SIGNIFICANT QUEUING WHERE IT WOULD GET BACK TO THIS DRIVEWAY.

WE SAW SOME QUEUING THAT GOT BACK ALMOST TO MAIN STREET.

AND IT WON'T FROM OUR OBSERVATIONS AND FROM OUR ANALYSIS, IT WON'T GET ANYWHERE NEAR THIS, THIS NORTHERN DRIVEWAY TO IMPACT TRAFFIC TURNING INTO THE SITE.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE ELEVATION CHANGE, SAY, FROM THE TOP OF THE HILL DOWN TO THE WHERE YOUR LEFT HAND TURN IS, GENERALLY YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT IS.

I DON'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I CAN'T ANSWER FOR YOU, ALTHOUGH IT'S PROBABLY ONLY A COUPLE FEET FROM THE VERTICAL CURVE KIND OF CREST, THAT NORTHERN MEDIAN IN THE NORTHERN MEDIAN.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC NUMBER, BUT I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.

OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, SORRY. YOU SAID ABOUT ONE VEHICLE PER MINUTE IS THAT TAKING TOTAL VEHICLES PER DAY AND JUST OVER 24 HOUR PERIOD, OR IS THAT CONSIDERING LIKE THE OFFICE WOULD HAVE MORE VEHICLES DURING THAT OFFICE HOUR TIME? SO WE LOOKED AT TWO SO WE CALCULATE TRIP GENERATION FOR THE SITE BASED ON IT'S CALLED THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS TRIP GENERATION.

IT'S NATIONALLY ACCEPTED RATES.

SO WE APPLY THOSE RATES TO BOTH THE OFFICE USE AND THE RESIDENTIAL.

OF COURSE, IN THE OFFICE, YOU KIND OF HAVE YOU HAVE EVERYBODY COMING IN THE MORNING, ABOUT 70% OF TRAFFIC COMES IN THE MORNING, RESIDENTIAL ABOUT 70% LEAVE.

SO IT ACTUALLY WORKS COMPLEMENTARY WELL WHERE YOU HAVE ONE USE THAT IS COMING IN AND ONE USE THAT'S LEAVING.

THEY'RE NOT BOTH LEAVING AT THE SAME TIME OR COMING IN THE SAME TIME.

DURING THE DURING THE PEAK HOUR, WHICH IS TYPICALLY 7 TO 8, 8 TO 9 THERE WAS THERE'S ABOUT 53 CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE IN ONE HOUR. SO ABOUT ONE EVERY MINUTE.

AND THE PM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AT 57 TRIPS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE TOTAL IN THE IN THE PMP COVER.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

SO WERE YOU JUST SAYING A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT YOU WENT OUT TO DO TRAFFIC COUNTS TO SEE EXISTING TRAFFIC AND WHAT HOW IT IS RIGHT NOW IN FEBRUARY? OKAY.

DID YOU GIVE ANY CONSIDERATION THAT IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN THERE'S LOTS OF SHOPPING IN TOWN SQUARE AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE ON POINT IN DIFFERENT SEASONAL. YEAH.

I MEAN THERE ARE DEFINITELY VARIABILITY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TRAFFIC I WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S IN THE SUMMER MONTHS WE ACTUALLY TRY TO AVOID COUNTING IN THE SUMMER ONLY NOW UNDERSTANDING THE USE HERE, BUT GENERALLY CARROLL AND SOUTHLAKE, THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES MAY ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER IN THE SUMMER JUST BECAUSE OF SCHOOL BEING OUT.

TRAFFIC [INAUDIBLE] SCHOOL TRAFFIC.

BUT BUT THERE ARE SEASONAL VARIATIONS IN TRAFFIC VOLUMES, OF COURSE, BUT I DON'T SUSPECT THAT WOULD REALLY IMPACT SIGNIFICANTLY WHERE IN FEBRUARY THERE'S NOT AN IMPACT AND THEN IN SUMMER MONTHS IT WOULD BE AN IMPACT.

OKAY. AND THEN DID YOU GIVE CONSIDERATION TO CERTAIN EVENTS THAT TOWN SQUARE HAS WHERE THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE EXITING AT ONCE, LIKE A HOMECOMING PARADE OR A 3RD OF JULY AND EVENTS LIKE THAT.

AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? YEAH.

I MEAN, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO TRAFFIC STUDIES, WE TRY TO CAPTURE AVERAGE DAY.

WHEN WE MITIGATE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ON FROM A DEVELOPMENT, WE DON'T WE TRY NOT TO DESIGN OR RECOMMEND IMPROVEMENTS FOR LIKE A DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING TYPE SITUATION WHERE IT MAY ONLY OCCUR ONE DAY OF THE YEAR OR TWO DAYS OF THE YEAR.

NOW WITH THERE COULD BE TIMES WHERE THAT THAT QUEUE DOES GET LONGER ON CARROLL AVENUE.

OF COURSE, IF THERE'S AN EVENT, ESPECIALLY THIS, THE HOMECOMING PARADE, THERE MAY BE CERTAIN TIMES WHERE THAT QUEUE DOES, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT 95% OF THE TIME, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

THAT'S USUALLY WHAT WE TARGET FOR.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT? ONE QUICK QUESTION CURTIS, TO CLARIFY THE BACK ON YOUR YOUR MAIN SLIDE.

SO YEAH RIGHT THERE.

SO THE TURNAROUND ON THE FAR LEFT OF THE SCREEN THAT IS STILL INTENDED ABSENT THAT BEING AN EMERGENCY ACCESS SITUATION. CORRECT.

YES. OKAY.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

I GUESS IF WE'RE STILL TALKING TO THE APPLICANT AND IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU HAVE THAT THERE AT THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY ONLY EMERGENCY ACCESS? [INAUDIBLE] YES, BECAUSE THE EXISTING OWNER AND TENANTS OF THAT BUILDING THERE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, MORE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE.

IT'S THE SAME OWNER THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY YOU'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP, THOUGH, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

SO SO THEY'RE CHOOSING, I GUESS, TO RESTRICT THAT TO EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.

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YEAH. THEY'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT EMERGENCY ACCESS INTO THERE, BUT THEY DON'T WANT DAILY TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ENGINEERING PLANS IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE.

YOU'VE SEEN ALL THE RENDERINGS.

WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE AGAIN.

BUT I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THOSE, BUT OTHERWISE THAT'S OUR CHANGES.

TRAVIS WANTS TO SAY A FEW THINGS.

ABSOLUTELY. BE BE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.

YOU GOT TO SAY A LITTLE SOMETHING, A LITTLE COLOR TO THIS WHOLE THING TO END IT UP.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE THAT I JUST KIND OF WANT TO ADDRESS EARLY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HEAR TONIGHT AND DO ME A FAVOR, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, TRAVIS FRANKS, WILLOW TREE CUSTOM HOMES.

THANK YOU. 775 LAKEWOOD OR 680 NORTH CARROLL.

BOTH ARE GOOD FOR ME.

BUT I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT AND WE REALLY DO, WE REALLY HAVE MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO LISTEN AND TALK TO NEIGHBORS FROM OMB, FROM SOUTHVIEW, FROM FOXBOROUGH AND JUST AND REALLY DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE LAND WE GOT.

AND I WANT TO JUST MAKE A FEW LITTLE JUST, JUST IDEAS THAT WE HAVE AND THINGS THAT WE JUST CAN'T CHANGE.

AND ONE IS WHAT WE JUST MENTIONED ABOUT DR.

MENDEZ'S PROPERTY. HE OWNS.

YES, HE OWNS IT.

WE DON'T HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT.

HE HAS LAND RIGHTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO NOT SELL OR DO WHAT HE WANTS WITH THIS PROPERTY.

SO HE HAS GIFTED AND GIVEN THIS THIS PROPERTY TO HIS FAMILY.

THAT'S ESPECIALLY THE NON-DEVELOPED PIECE AT THIS POINT.

AND HE DOES NOT WANT TO SELL IT.

THIS IS A SOMETHING FOR HIS FAMILY TO PASS ON.

SO WE DON'T WE DON'T WE CAN'T FORCE THIS ISSUE.

AND I GET THE EMERGENCY GATE.

WHY CAN'T WE OPEN IT UP TO BE A FULL TIME TRAFFIC FOR THE RESIDENCES? IT IS. THERE IS TWO MEDICAL BUILDINGS THERE WITH MAJORITY OF THE PATIENTS COMING TO THESE MEDICAL BUILDINGS ARE VERY ELDERLY, AND WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE OF TRAFFIC RUNNING THROUGH A PARKING LOT. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST FAIR TO DR.

MENDEZ AND FAIR TO THE DOCTORS THAT OPERATE OR, AND ARE WORKING THAT THOSE FACILITIES.

BUT TODAY'S REAL QUICK AND I'LL GO FAST DUE TO TIME HERE.

BUT YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC WE ADDRESSED AND AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO HEAR AGAIN TONIGHT IS GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT OR THIS DATA IS NOT REALLY MEAN ANYTHING TO ME.

WELL, THIS IS REAL DATA.

THIS IS THESE ENGINEERS HAVE AN ETHICAL RESPONSIBILITY TO TELL THE TRUTH AND TO GET REAL DATA.

OTHERWISE THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR LICENSE.

AND SO THESE GUYS ARE REALLY DOING THEIR JOB TO TELL US WHAT, REGARDLESS OF PERCEPTION OF WHAT THE HOMECOMING DOES, WHAT THE OKTOBERFEST DOES, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ACTUALLY ADDING MORE PARKING AVAILABLE FOR THESE EVENTS.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S 80 MORE PARKING SPOTS THAT PEOPLE CAN PARK DURING THESE RUSH HOUR EVENTS.

SO I DON'T SEE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAN AN ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AROUND ONE DAY.

SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE.

THE OTHER PART IS THE CROSS LANE EMERGENCY GATE.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE WANT TO DO WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT.

IF THEY DON'T WANT EVEN THE EMERGENCY GATE THERE.

THIS IS WHY WE PROPOSED AND MADE A DEAL WITH DR.

MENDEZ TO GIVE US THAT EMERGENCY GATE ON HIS PARKING LOT.

IT WAS NOT GIVEN TO US.

WE MADE A SPECIAL DEAL WITH DR.

MENDEZ. AND OBVIOUSLY HIS HIS RELUCTANCE TO IT WANTED TO BE OFF OF CROSS LANE.

WE MADE IT WORK OUT.

AND NOW HERE WE ARE. THEY HAVE THEY HAVE A SOLID EIGHT FOOT WALL GOING AROUND THE EDGE OF THE END OF OUR PROPERTY HERE.

SO THERE WOULD BE NO TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE.

AND THEY STILL GET TO TURN AROUND.

THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED AS WELL.

AND ALSO THERE HAS BEEN A DRAINAGE CONCERN ON THE STREET THAT RECENTLY GOT REPAIRED BY THE CITY.

THEY PUT AN INLET IN THE PROPERTY ON CROSS LANE, NORTH SIDE OF CROSS LANE, AND THAT INLET IS IN THEIR PROPERTY.

IT BASED BASED ON OUR CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS.

WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT INLET AND PUT ALL THE WATER UNDERGROUND AND GO BEHIND THE FOXBOROUGH CROSS LANE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO A DRAIN THAT'S ALREADY THERE THAT GOES OUT TO FOXBOROUGH POND. SO WE'VE WE CAN HELP IMPROVE THAT ONE NEIGHBOR THAT HAS BEEN HAVING TO RECEIVE A LOT OF THE WATER IN PAST.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY THAT WHEN WE ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND WE HAVE REAL DATA, REAL ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW, YES, WE HEAR YOU THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A NO EMERGENCY GATE AT SOME POINT THE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, THERE MIGHT BE THE NO, I DON'T STILL DON'T WANT IT.

IT'S A CLASSIC CASE OF JUST NOT IN MY BACKYARD SITUATION.

LIKE AT SOME POINT THIS LAND WILL BE DEVELOPED.

AND THE OTHER PART IS THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE DENSITY IS, WE ARE A MEDIUM DENSITY.

WE DON'T HAVE A HIGH DENSITY.

SO THAT'S NOT EVEN A WORD WE CAN USE.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, HIGH DENSITY IS A TYPICAL TERM FOR STACKABLE UNITS.

THAT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THESE ARE $2 MILLION VILLAS THAT ARE SEPARATED.

THIS THIS PLAN, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH LOOKING AT PLANS, THIS IS NOT HOME TO HOME STACKED EACH OTHER ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

THESE HAVE SPACES IN BETWEEN THEM WITH GATES, SIDE GATES IN BETWEEN EACH LOT.

SO THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT WE NEED IN SOUTHLAKE AND A HUGE DEMAND FOR EMPTY NESTERS.

WE DON'T HAVE A PRODUCT CURRENTLY FOR FOR YOUNG FAMILIES TO COME IN SOUTHLAKE, NOR DO WE HAVE A PRODUCT FOR EMPTY NESTERS IN SOUTHLAKE THAT WANT TO ABANDON THEIR LARGE PROPERTIES.

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WE'RE ASKING THEM TO GO TO WESTLAKE, WE'RE ASKING THEM TO GO TO COLLEYVILLE, AND WE'RE ASKING THEM TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE ANYMORE, APPARENTLY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE FOR THEM TO GO.

SO THIS IS A REAL PRODUCT.

WE ARE A TOWN THAT NEEDS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND HERE WE ARE WITH A TRANSITIONAL ZONING THAT REFERS RESIDENTIAL TO A COMMERCIAL BUFFER.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WHERE ELSE IN THE CITY CAN WE DO THIS? IF I HAVE A ZONING, IF THERE'S NOT A PLACE TO PUT THIS TRANSITIONAL ZONING, THIS ISN'T OUR MAIN AND MAIN.

THEREFORE, MAIN AND MAIN PROPERTY VALUES ARE WAY MORE THAN SOMETHING THAT'S EXTREMELY FAR NORTH OR EXTREMELY FAR SOUTH OF SOUTHLAKE.

IT JUST GOES BY THE SQUARE FOOT NOW, NOT BY THE NOT BY THIS ACRE.

THE SYLLABLE ACRE. SO WHEN YOU START SELLING THINGS BY THE SQUARE FOOT, IT GETS VERY EXPENSIVE.

AS WE KNOW, LAND COMMERCIAL, EVERYTHING ABOUT MAIN AND MAIN IS EXPENSIVE, THEREFORE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENT.

SOMETIMES IT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE BECAUSE OF THOSE COST BARRIERS, WHICH AGAIN, DOESN'T INFLUENCE ANYBODY, BUT IT DOES AFFECT WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO ON THIS PROPERTY.

SO AGAIN, I LOOK AT IT FROM THE MOST PROBABLY AS A FAMILY, AS MY WIFE'S FAMILY, AS THE PROBABLY MOST TENURED FAMILY IN THIS TOWN TODAY.

BOLD STATEMENT, I GUARANTEE IN THIS ROOM, BUT PROBABLY THE ENTIRE TOWN TODAY.

AND SO I LOOK AT IT AS TWO DIFFERENT, THREE DIFFERENT WAYS.

AM I AFFECTING QUALITY OF LIFE? AM I RUINING LIFE? AM I PUTTING SOMETHING THAT'S DETRIMENTAL TO SOUTHLAKE? ABSOLUTELY NOT. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PLAN.

AM I DECREASING OR AFFECTING PROPERTY VALUES IN A NEGATIVE WAY? ZERO ABSOLUTELY NOT.

THIS ALL THIS DOES IS INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS TOWN AS WELL AS FOR THE CITY.

AND WE HAVE A WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT A PRODUCT THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE.

AND IF I COULD JUST PRESENT TO YOU THE, THE CALLS AND THE CONTRACTS THAT PEOPLE WANT ME TO WRITE ON LOTS.

I WOULD HAVE THIS THING SOLD OUT BEFORE WE FINISHED DEVELOPING THIS THING THAT SAYS SOMETHING.

SO WHAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING NEGATIVITY ON TONIGHT IS A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE.

ON THE FLIP SIDE, WE HAVE A VERY LARGE CROWD WANTING TO BUY AND BUILD IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY NEED THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT.

THEY WANT TO TRAVEL, THEY WANT TO JUST LEAVE THEIR HOUSE, COME BACK.

EVERYTHING'S EXACTLY THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, LAST POINT, WE NEED PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN.

WE ENJOY OUR NICE RESTAURANTS THAT WE HAVE, WE ENJOY OUR NICE BUILDINGS, WE ENJOY THE SAFETY, WE ENJOY EVERYTHING WE HAVE.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH CONTRARY OF SOUTHLAKE, THAT PEOPLE WANT TO GO BACK TO 1990 AND HAVE NO TRAFFIC ON CARROLL, TRAFFIC ON CARROLL IS NOT US.

TRAFFIC ON CARROLL IS PEOPLE COMING TO SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE AND ENJOYING WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE IT'S NICE AND SAFE, AND WE NEED PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN TO CONTINUE TO HAVE NICE AND SAFE PLACES TO GO TO.

THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME, GETTING QUESTIONS FOR ME.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ITEMS NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN ON THE AGENDA DO REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND BEFORE WE GET TO SPEAKERS, I WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE CARDS WE HAVE AND READ THOSE OFF.

AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE ONES WHERE YOU FILLED OUT A CARD AND WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.

FIRST ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE IT WAS A MISTAKE BEING WRITTEN DOWN, BUT MIKE AND MARIE KOCHER.

YOU THERE. ARE YOU WANTING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? PARDON ME. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WE HAVE LEO RODRIGUEZ, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT FOR THE ITEM.

JEFF WANG DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD OPPOSITION TO THE ITEM.

TOMMY MADISON DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD.

IS IT SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION? NEITHER ONE IS CIRCLED.

PARDON. OPPOSITION.

OPPOSITION. OKAY MR. MADISON DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD OPPOSITION.

REBECCA MADISON DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD OPPOSITION AS WELL.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. AMBER BUTCHER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD HER OPPOSITION.

AND THEN JESSICA HARWOOD DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD OPPOSITION.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO WITH THE CARDS AND WE'LL JUST KIND OF TAKE THEM IN ORDER HERE.

AND IF I SCREW UP YOUR NAME, JUST FORGIVE ME RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE AND WE'LL JUST DEAL WITH IT.

THOMAS BRANDT WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM.

WE HAVE A THOMAS BRANDT HERE.

ALL RIGHT APPARENTLY NOT.

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HONGWEI ZHONG WISHES TO SPEAK.

YES, SIR. COME ON UP.

IN OPPOSITION TO THE ITEM.

AND IF YOU WOULD DO ME A FAVOR, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THIS WOULD GO FOR EVERYBODY.

AND IF YOU WOULD DO US A FAVOR AND TRY AND LEAVE YOUR COMMENTS AT THREE MINUTES TO THE BEST YOU CAN, AND THERE WILL BE LIGHTS THERE.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS HONGWEI JIANG.

I LIVE IN 808 KISS CHORD CIRCLE, SOUTHLAKE.

AND I HAVE TWO CONCERNS OPPOSITION FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

THE NEW, THE FIRST IS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

THE PATTERN IS NOT IN HARMONY OF THE CURRENT CURRENT PROPERTY STYLE, BECAUSE THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION IS CROWDED TOO MUCH LIKE A TOWNHOUSE.

IF IT WERE LIKE THIS WAY IT WE WERE LOST A LOT.

I WILL STATE THAT LATER.

AND ANOTHER THING IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO TO TO US AND TO THE ANIMALS AROUND, BECAUSE THERE IS A FOREST OVER THERE. SO THE ANIMAL AND THE, THE BIRDS, THEY HAVE LESS THEY HAVE THE LIKE REFUGE OR REFUGE OVER THERE.

THEY CAN PROVIDE THE SHELTER FOR THE SMALL ANIMALS.

I LOVE SMALL ANIMALS IN THE BACKYARD.

I ALWAYS ENJOY THE SMALL ANIMALS ON THE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE WALL, THEY WALK AROUND, AND THE BIRD CHIRPS.

I LOVE THAT, BUT IF THERE IS NEW CONSTRUCTION, NOTHING LEFT.

AND ANOTHER THING FOR THE IF THERE IS NEW CONSTRUCTION, THE FOREST WILL BE REMOVED, SO WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD VIEW OF THAT.

I LOVE GREEN, EVERYBODY LIKES NICE GREEN THINGS.

SO. AND ALSO THE FOREST PROVIDE THE FRESH AIR FOR EVERYBODY WE HAVE.

GOOD THING AND THE INCREASE THE VALUATION OF THE PROPERTY AROUND IF YOU MOVE THE PROPERTY AND MOVE IF YOU MOVE THE FOREST AND BUILD THE CONSTRUCTION OVER THERE WILL LOSE A LOT OF MARKET PRICE.

YOU BUY A HOUSE THERE BESIDE THE FOREST OR BESIDE THE CROWDED, CROWDED HOUSING OVER THERE.

I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE YOUR CHOICE IF YOU SPEND THE SAME, SAME PRICE.

SO BASED ON TWO CONCERNS THE CONSTRUCTION STYLE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO THE TO THE COMMUNITY AROUND.

SO I HAVE SOME SOME CONCERN BY THIS.

THE FIRST THING THAT WILL PULL DOWN THE MARKET PRICE OF THE PROPERTY AROUND THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE DEVELOPER.

THEY MAKE MONEY WITH THOSE [INAUDIBLE] MONEY.

SO THAT'S MY FIRST CONCERN.

ANOTHER CONCERN IS SAFETY.

ASSUME THE CRIMINAL RATE IS THE SAME IF THE POPULATION FOR THAT AREA INCREASED DRAMATICALLY.

SO THE CRIMINAL ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL POSSIBILITY WERE BEHIND.

SO I DON'T LIKE THAT WAY.

WE NEED THE WE BUY WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE.

WE WE THINK EVERYTHING'S THE EVERYTHING'S SAFE, EVERYTHING'S GOOD.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S DAMAGED THAT THAT EXPECTATION.

SO THAT'S I FEEL VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AND ALSO THE PRIVACY BECAUSE THE NEW BUILDING, IT HAS NOT THE BUILDING, THE HOUSES OVER THERE USUALLY IS OVER THERE.

I DO THE CALCULATION.

I FOUND THIS AND TOGETHER IS MORE THAN THE PROPERTY, THE HOUSE COUNT OF THE CURRENT SCENE.

SO IT'S MUCH LARGER THAN THAT THEN, SO THAT WE LOSE PRIVACY IN THE BACKYARD.

THE BACKYARD IS FIRST WE HAVE THE PRIVACY, THEN THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION OVER THERE.

WE LOST THE PRIVACY.

I DON'T LIKE THAT WAY.

SO I FEEL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

OKAY. AND ALSO THE TRAFFIC AND THE NOISE.

IF THE MORE POPULATION OVER THERE THAT'S MUCH, MUCH DENSE FOR THERE.

SO WE LOSE THE SOMETHING LIKE THE, THE, THE LOWEST, THE LOWEST AND THE, THE PRIVACY AND ALSO THE MARKET PRICE OF THE PROPERTY AND ALSO.

OKAY, I NEED YOU TO WRAP IT UP, IF YOU WOULD, FOR ME.

WE'RE AT THE END OF THE THREE MINUTES, SIR.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I THINK THAT'S ALL.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FROM ALEX PARROT, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

DO NOT SPEAK.

OKAY. NEXT CARD IS CATHERINE VOLLMER WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

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DID I MESS UP YOUR NAME PRETTY BAD? NOT TOO BAD. ALL RIGHT, DO ME A FAVOR AND STATE IT FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU WOULD.

YES. MY NAME IS CATHERINE VOLLMER.

YOU DID PRETTY GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

I'M AT 711 MOULTON LANE AND I LIVE IN THE FOXBOROUGH AREA.

I DO SEE THAT.

THERE THE CHANGES.

THERE'S SOME PLUS CHANGES HERE, BUT AS A PAST BOARD MEMBER WHO WAS PART OF THE STUDY THAT WE DID ON 1709, BECAUSE IN FOXBOROUGH, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A LEFT ONTO 1709, WHICH WOULD ALLOW OUR RESIDENTS TO GO EAST.

AND THAT WASN'T ALLOWED BECAUSE OF STACKING ON BYRON NELSON AND TO NORTH CARROLL.

SO I I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU GUYS CAN SAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THIS CROSS TRAFFIC PROBLEM IF YOU DON'T HAVE MR. STRUNK'S ABILITY TO BUY HIS PROPERTY NOW.

THAT'S A HOPEFUL I WOULD THINK THAT'S A HOPEFUL MATTER THAT YOU TO GET TO THE INTERSECTION, WHICH IS LET'S SEE, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT INTERSECTION? BY DR. MENDEZ'S OFFICE, TOWER, TOWER.

THANK YOU. THAT IS THE ONLY SPOT THAT YOU THAT SIGNAL LIGHT IS THE ONLY SPOT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GO LEFT ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD TO GO EAST. AND THEN YOU COULD GO LEFT ON NORTH CARROLL SO YOU COULD GO NORTH WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE A U-TURN.

AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT DR.

MENDEZ DOESN'T WANT TO ALLOW ANYBODY TO COME ON THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY AND ALLOW YOU A ROAD THAT WOULDN'T GO THROUGH HIS MEDICAL OFFICE.

AND I THINK HE'S REALLY MAKING IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANY DEVELOPER TO NOT DEVELOP THAT NOW, BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MR. STRUNK'S ACCESS FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS, MAYBE NEVER, HE MIGHT GIVE IT TO HIS KIDS.

SO YOU MAY THEN STILL BE LOCKED IN ALWAYS WITH THAT PROPERTY, ONLY BEING ABLE TO MAKE A RIGHT OUT OF NORTH CARROLL AND MAKING A U-TURN TO GET WHATEVER OTHER DIRECTION THEY WANT TO GET.

SO I STILL THINK THAT IS A HUGE FLAW.

I UNDERSTAND THEY'VE TRIED TO GO BACK TO DR.

MENDEZ, BUT I THINK HE'S DOING THEM A DISSERVICE BY NOT ALLOWING THEM ACCESS TO THAT SIGNAL LIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S MY $0.02 WORTH.

THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MA'AM.

NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FROM ANNE DAVIS, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? THANK YOU. I'M FINE.

HOW ARE YOU? VERY GOOD.

IF YOU WOULD BE KIND ENOUGH TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

FOR THE RECORD. YES.

GOOD EVENING, VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

I'M ANNE DAVIS, 308 FOXBOROUGH.

THE MASTER PLAN THAT YOU'VE DEFENDED FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS HAS MADE SOUTHLAKE A PLACE THAT'S HARD TO LEAVE.

AS A HOMEOWNER AND MEMBER OF THE FOXBOROUGH HOA BOARD, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE THAT RARE REPUTATION TONIGHT.

THE PROPOSAL BEFORE US BEGS A SIMPLE QUESTION.

WILL WE PRIORITIZE DEVELOPER PROFITS OR WILL WE PRIORITIZE OUR RESIDENTS ENJOYMENT OF SOUTHLAKE'S CONSISTENT BEAUTY AND SAFETY AS ENSURED BY CONFORMITY TO OUR MASTER PLAN? ON JANUARY 13TH, I GAVE YOU 11 REASONS THAT WE SHOULD OBJECT TO THE MENDEZ FRANK'S PROPOSAL.

THESE OBJECTIONS STILL STAND.

TONIGHT'S MODIFIED PROPOSAL STILL FAILS TO PROVIDE PRESENT ACCESS TO 1709 FOR ITS VILLA RESIDENTS.

THE VILLA'S MODIFIED DENSITY STILL EXCEEDS THE DENSITY THRESHOLD FOR THE PROPOSED ZONING AND LAND USE CHANGE.

THE PROPOSED LAND USE IS AN OVERBEARING COMMERCIAL BUILDING, PLUS A HIGH COST, NON CONFORMING RESIDENTIAL MODEL THAT ABUTS TRADITIONAL SUBURBAN HOMES WHOSE YARDS SPAN 0.5 TO 3 ACRES.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT PURCHASERS OF THE PROPOSED VILLAS WILL BE OFFERED A BONUS THIRD STORY ROOM.

SUCH HEIGHT WOULD BE ENTIRELY INCONGRUENT WITH THE TRADITIONAL ONE AND TWO STORY HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN NESTLED IN ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS.

THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ALL ONE STORY AND CREATE AN ATTRACTIVE TRANSITION BETWEEN NEIGHBORING SOUTH VIEW AND TOWN CENTER.

IF YOU APPROVE TONIGHT'S PROPOSAL, VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT OF THE FRANKS DEVELOPMENT WILL ONLY EXACERBATE TODAY'S HEAD ON COLLISION DANGERS PRECIPITATED BY BOULEVARDS THAT REQUIRE U-TURNS ON NORTH CARROLL.

FOXBOROUGH RESIDENTS FACE THOSE U-TURN DANGERS EVERY DAY.

SUGGESTING THAT OUR CITY ADD MORE COLLISION PRONE TRAFFIC TO THE EXISTING PROFIT, OUR PROBLEM IS SIMPLY IRRESPONSIBLE.

FINALLY, IN EXCHANGES OFF CAMERA, THE DEVELOPER HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE BELIEVES RESIDENTS VOICES WILL BE MUTED BY THE CITY'S RUSH TO DEVELOP SOUTHLAKE. HE SAYS HE WAS INVITED BY THE CITY TO MAKE HIS PROPOSAL.

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WE, AS RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN URGED TO COOPERATE IN ORDER TO AVOID HARSHER PROPOSITIONS.

I BELIEVE APPROVAL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD ONLY OFFER MINIMAL OFFSETTING BENEFIT TO SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS.

PLEASE PROTECT US AS YOU HAVE DONE SO WELL IN THE PAST.

REJECT ZA 23-0072.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM [APPLAUSE].

NEXT NEXT CARD IS FROM BARTON DAVIS.

WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

HOW ARE YOU, SIR? I'M DOING WELL.

AND YOU? VERY GOOD.

BARTON DAVIS, 308 FOXBOROUGH LANE.

FIRST I WANT TO COMMEND THE DEVELOPERS FOR THE CHANGES THAT THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED.

I THINK THAT THEY HAVE HELPED THEIR CASE SOME.

HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE TWO MAJOR ISSUES.

ONE IS THE TWO STORY COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING AS WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY BY A COUPLE OF OF OPPONENTS.

IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSING WITH THE BUILDING ON THE WEST SIDE OF CARROLL AVENUE, AS WELL AS THE BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 1709.

THE SIMPLE REALITY IS THAT THERE IS NO TWO STORY BUILDING ON THAT ENTIRE PLAT.

SO I HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE A TWO STORY BUILDING THERE OTHER THAN DEVELOPERS PROFIT.

THE HUGE REMAINING PROBLEM IS THE 1709 ACCESS.

I APPRECIATE THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE TRIED TO SECURE THAT ACCESS, BUT SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE MAYBE, IS NOT A SOLUTION.

IT'S IT'S WE HAVE TO ADDRESS WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TODAY, NOT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN 30 YEARS FROM NOW, 60 YEARS FROM NOW, 120 YEARS FROM NOW, WHO KNOWS? IT'S NOT ON THE TABLE.

WE DON'T HAVE IT. AND IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

NEXT, LET'S LET'S AVOID THE CLAPPING IF WE COULD.

NEXT CARD IS FROM MIKE WASON.

SAYS UNDECIDED. DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, SIR? LLOYD POOL WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

OKAY, WE'LL WRITE THAT DOWN ON THAT ONE.

LUCIEN [INAUDIBLE] WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

IS THIS ON THIS ITEM? LUCIEN [INAUDIBLE].

NO. TRACY JUSTICE WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

COMMISSIONER DIKE WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

HI, EVERYBODY. NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

SCOTT DIKE, 1110 FONTAINE DRIVE, SOUTHLAKE.

A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS PROPOSAL, AND I WOULD POINT OUT THAT A MARGINALLY LESS BAD PROPOSAL IS STILL A BAD PROPOSAL.

AND I PERSONALLY LIKE TO THANK THE OVERWROUGHT DEVELOPER DESPERATELY CLINGING TO THIS FAILING PLAN FOR INSULTING THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE WHO ARE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION.

I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OR INDICATING SPEAKING IN FAVOR ARE THOSE WHO WOULD DIRECTLY PROFIT, I.E.

THE LAND SELLER FROM THIS PROJECT.

IT'S STILL TOO DENSE, IT DOES NOT FIT WITH THE SPIRIT OR THE USE OF THE OR THE OR THE LETTER OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

TWO STORY'S IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE EXIT TO 1709, THE ACCESS TO 1709 IS A MAJOR PROBLEM.

I WON'T SPEAK AS TO WHETHER THIS TRAFFIC STUDY WAS MANIPULATED, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU FROM DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME, THAT DEVELOPERS ROUTINELY MANIPULATE TRAFFIC STUDIES TO GET THE RESULTS THAT THEY WANT.

1709 ACCESS IS KEY HERE.

IF DR. MENDEZ DOESN'T WANT TO GRANT AN EASEMENT, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO SELL THE LAND.

HE GRANTS AN EASEMENT THAT CAN BE INTEGRATED WITH ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

IF HE DOESN'T WANT TO GRANT THAT, HE SHOULDN'T SELL THIS LAND.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE HOPEFUL.

HOPE IS NOT A PLAN.

HOPING THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WILL DEVELOP THE DR.

THE MR. STRUNK LAND IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE PLAN FOR SOUTHLAKE.

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SO, THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO THE OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION OF THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE AND REJECT THIS PLAN ENTIRELY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

RON GARNER WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

ADCOCK WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF MR. STRUNK. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JESSICA ADCOCK.

I LIVE AT 801 CROSS LANE.

I'M A RESIDENT OF FOXBOROUGH.

I'M ALSO THE FOXBOROUGH HOA PRESIDENT.

I'M GOING TO START BY SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN I WILL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MR. STRUNK. I BELIEVE I'M ALLOWED SOME EXTRA TIME TO DO THAT TONIGHT.

HE'S GIVEN ME SOME NOTES ON HIS BEHALF.

SO WHILE I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE HAS BEEN MOVED FROM CROSS LANE, THE DEVELOPERS OTHER REVISIONS ARE MINOR AND FRANKLY DISAPPOINTING. THEY HAVE FAILED TO ADDRESS THE CORE ISSUES AND CONCERNS RAISED AT THE LAST P&Z MEETING BY YOU AS A COMMISSION.

THE PLAN IS NOT COMPLYING WITH THE SOUTHLAKE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IN MULTIPLE WAYS, AND THE DEVELOPERS ARE ASKING FOR TOO MANY VARIANCES TO SOUTHLAKE DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES.

THEIR RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IS STILL TOO HIGH.

THEIR COMMERCIAL BUILDING IS STILL TOO LARGE, AND THEY STILL HAVE NOT NEGOTIATED A CONNECTION TO TOWER PLAZA AT 1709 WITH THE OWNER OF THIS LAND, WHICH EVERYONE'S ALREADY MENTIONED IS DR.

MENDEZ. THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE ZONING CHANGE, AND THEY ARE NOT EVEN COMPLYING WITH THE RESTRICTIONS AND RULES OF THAT NEW ZONING DISTRICT.

THEIR PROPOSED SOLUTION OF USING MR. STRUNK'S PROPERTY AT 200 NORTH CARROLL AS A FUTURE CONNECTION POINT TO 1709 IS EXTREMELY TROUBLESOME.

THIS IS NOT A PLAN, BUT AN ATTEMPT TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND DEFER RESPONSIBILITY.

MR. STRUNK OWNS AND LIVES ON THIS LAND, AND IT IS PRESUMPTUOUS OF THE OF THE DEVELOPERS TO ASSUME IT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN A WAY THEY HOPE IT WILL BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THEREFORE, THIS PROPOSED SOLUTION DOES NOT PRESENTLY SATISFY THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE HAS A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE.

WE NEED TO UPHOLD THIS PLAN AND OUR ORDINANCES TO SO WE HAVE HEALTHY AND SMART DEVELOPMENT VERSUS GRANTING NECESSARY UNNECESSARY, EXCUSE ME, VARIANCES THAT ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO OVERBURDEN THE LAND POTENTIALLY NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND OUR COMMUNITY.

GRANTING VARIANCES SETS THE STAGE FOR A SLIPPERY SLOPE.

WHILE I ACKNOWLEDGE THIS LAND WILL LIKELY BE DEVELOPED AT POINT AT SOME POINT AND THE LANDOWNER HAS CERTAIN RIGHTS TO DEVELOPMENT, IT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED IN A WAY THAT FOLLOWS THE RULES.

THE RULES ARE THE SOUTHLAKE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND OUR DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES.

AT THE PRESENT TIME THIS PLAN IS NOT ABIDING BY THOSE RULES.

THEREFORE, PLEASE RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AND THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL AS IT STANDS.

IN THE MEANTIME, I HOPE THE DEVELOPERS MAKE BETTER EFFORTS TO LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORS, THE COMMUNITY, AND OUR CITY AS THEY CONSIDER FUTURE REVISIONS TO THIS PLAN.

I'M GOING TO NOW, IF I THINK I BELIEVE I HAVE PERMISSION TO READ A LETTER FROM MR. STRUNK. YEAH. JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU HAD REACHED OUT TO THE CITY IN ADVANCE BECAUSE HE COULDN'T MAKE IT THIS EVENING.

AND SO YOU ARRANGED THIS IN ADVANCE? YES. THANK YOU.

SO MR. STRUNK LIVES AT 200 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND HE HAS LIVED THERE, I BELIEVE, FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW HIM.

SO I'M GOING TO READ A EXCERPT FROM A LETTER THAT HE WROTE AS AN UPDATE TO THESE REVISIONS.

AND THEN I WILL REREAD HIS INITIAL OPPOSITION REGARDING THIS PROJECT.

SO QUOTING MR. STRUNK, I WILL.

SORRY. EXCUSE ME, I AM STILL SERIOUSLY OPPOSED TO THE PLANS.

THE GENTLEMAN DID NOT TRY TO HAVE THEIR PLAN NUMBER TWO MEET THE FUTURE LAND USE PLANS IN ANY ACCEPTABLE WAY, ESPECIALLY NOT THEIR IDEA OF GETTING TO USE OUR HOME FOR ACCESS TO 1709.

IT IS REALLY ABSURD.

AS I TOLD YOU EARLIER, WE HAVE MANY OFFERS TO PURCHASE OUR HOME.

REMOVING OF TWO VILLAS AND TEN FEET FROM THE TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING DOES NOT DO ANYTHING.

I HOPE THE MEMBERS OF THE P&Z HAVE COME TO THE SAME OPINION AND SOLUTION.

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AND THEN I'LL JUST REREAD HIS INITIAL OPPOSITION AS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY SO NOTICED ABOVE, I AM OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED PLAN.

MY MAIN REASON IS THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN SHOULD NOT BE ALTERED.

RESIDENTS LIVING AND WORKING ON NORTH CARROLL AVENUE REALLY LIKE ITS CONDITIONS AND RULES.

THE FOLLOWING ELEMENTS DO NOT MEET THE RULES AND FUTURE PLANS OF THE LAND USE.

NUMBER ONE, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS LIKE A LARGE TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING BUILDING SHOULD NOT BE BUILT NEXT TO MY HOME OR ANYWHERE ELSE ON NORTH CARROLL.

NUMBER TWO, ONLY MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENCES ARE PERMITTED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

THERE SHOULD NOT BE TIGHTLY APART VILLAS BUILT ON THE PROPERTY.

NUMBER THREE TRAFFIC REDUCTIONS ON NORTH CARROLL MIGHT HELP WITH SOME CONNECTION TO 1709.

AND THAT CONCLUDES HIS COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THREE NEW CARDS, BUT THEY DON'T SAY WHICH ITEM THEY INTEND TO SPEAK ON OR WISH THEY RECORD, SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION ON. SO I'M GOING TO READ THEM OFF.

AND IF YOU ALL CAN KIND OF HELP ME OUT HERE.

RAJINI BHOJANI.

ARE YOU HERE ON THIS ITEM? YES. OKAY.

DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISH TO RECORD YOUR OPPOSITION.

THAT'S ITEM SIX AND SEVEN.

JILL POTTER.

JILL AND ARE YOU WISHING TO RECORD OPPOSITION ON THESE ITEMS? OKAY. SO AGAIN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I HAVE JILL POTTER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT WISHES TO RECORD OPPOSITION TO THESE ITEMS. AND THEN ALSO JEFF POTTER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT WISHES TO RECORD OPPOSITION TO THESE ITEMS AS WELL.

AND THEN TO GO BACK I THINK I MENTIONED EARLY ON THOMAS BRANDT WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM THAT, DID I ALREADY HEAR FROM MR. BRANDT. NOPE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S COVERED ALL THE CARDS THAT WE HAVE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, OR THESE TWO ITEMS, WHETHER IN FAVOR OR AGAINST? GOING ONCE. GOING TWICE.

YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.

COME ON UP. DO ME A FAVOR AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

YES. MY NAME IS HELEN PEARSON.

I'M A 32 YEAR RESIDENT OF 470 SOUTH VIEW TRAIL IN SOUTH VIEW ESTATES.

I'VE SEEN THIS TOWN GROW, AND I'M ALL FOR EXPANSION OF THAT AREA, BUT NOT IN THAT DENSITY AND WITHOUT ACCESS TO 1709.

EVERY DAY TAKING MY KIDS TO SCHOOL OR MY GRANDKIDS TO SCHOOL WE HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN AT TOWER TO GET BACK THROUGH FOXBOROUGH TO GET INTO SOUTHVIEW.

BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS SO BACKED UP ON ON 1709, JUST TO GET INTO CARROLL AND THEN TRYING TO TURN LEFT INTO SOUTHVIEW.

SOUTHVIEW ESTATES HAS NO LIGHTS TO GET IN AND OUT OF, AND IT'S EVERY DAY IT'S DODGING CARS OR PULLING OUT TO THE MIDDLE AND WAITING FOR TRAFFIC TO PASS.

ADDING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IS AND WE CAN'T GET A A U-TURN COMING OUT ON THAT OTHER STREET OR A TO GO NORTH ON CARROLL.

BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADD ONE RIGHT THERE WITH THE HILL.

I JUST DON'T SEE THAT BEING A SAFE AREA TO HAVE THOSE TURNS INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT.

THE TWO STORY BUILDING THAT'S MENTIONED HERE JUST 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, THE EXPANSION ON THE BUILDING OFF OF 114 AND CARROLL, THEY TRIED TO GET A TWO STORY BUILDING.

IT WAS DENIED DUE TO TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND THE PROXIMITY TO THAT INTERSECTION.

THIS IS JUST ON THE OTHER END WITH THE PROXIMITY.

AND THEY THE CITY DECLINED THAT TWO STORY BUILDING ADDITION.

AND I SAID THAT MY MAIN CONCERN, BESIDES THE DENSITY, IS THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

WE DON'T SEE THAT OFTEN PEOPLE GOING.

I'M TRYING TO GET MY DIRECTIONS HERE ON ON CARROLL GOING NORTH, MAKING A U-TURN ON 1709, BUT IT OCCASIONALLY HAPPENS AND THAT IMPACTS EVERYTHING, BECAUSE THEN EVERYBODY KNOWS THE U-TURNS TAKE LONGER THAN A REGULAR LEFT TURN, AND THEN THAT BACKS UP THE TRAFFIC EVEN FURTHER.

ONTO CARROLL AVENUE.

THAT'S MY THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ITEM SIX AND SEVEN?

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YES, SIR. HOW ARE YOU? VERY GOOD. IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

DWAYNE G.

I'M AT 925 SOUTH VIEW TRAIL.

I'M CURRENTLY SERVING AS PRESIDENT OF SOUTH VIEW ESTATES.

I MET TRAVIS PROBABLY A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE LAST P&Z MEETING, AND SINCE THEN, HE AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AND EXCHANGED EMAILS ON THIS PROJECT.

SO I'M, I'M APPRECIATIVE OF OF THOSE.

AND HIS AT LEAST WILLING TO HEAR MY MY CONCERNS.

I AM OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT.

MY CHIEF OPPOSITION RELATES TO THE NON ACCESS TO 1709.

THE IDEA OF TRAVERSING ACROSS MR. STRUNK'S PROPERTY AT SOME FUTURE DATE IS WISHFUL THINKING BUT THIS IS NOT A PLAN.

SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A PLAN DEVELOPED BY BOTH THE SELLER AND BUYER TO MAKE THIS REALLY ADVANCE FORWARD.

THE OTHER OPPOSITION KEY ITEM IS THE SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT IS STILL EXCEEDS THE DENSITY LIMITATIONS THAT'S BEEN SET FORTH.

THIS IS STARTING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD.

I REALIZE THAT, BUT I'VE GOT TO SAY WHAT I WHAT MY CONCERNS ARE.

THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS DATED MARCH 15TH ACTUALLY INCLUDES CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS.

AND I JUST ASKED P&Z TO FOLLOW THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND FOLLOW THE EXISTING ORDINANCES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SET FORTH. TODAY, I REMAIN CONFIDENT THAT THERE IS A PLAN THAT EXISTS.

IT JUST HASN'T BEEN SHOWN TO US YET.

THERE ARE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE.

BUT IT STILL NEEDS TO GO THROUGH SOME SOME MORE CHANGES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.

YOU ALL HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CURTIS OR TRAVIS? AND WILL YOU DO ME A FAVOR WHEN YOU GET BACK UP HERE AND PUT THE SLIDE UP THAT SHOWS THE CHANGES? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A CITY SLIDE OR Y'ALL'S SLIDE JUST TO KIND OF IDENTIFIES THEM, LIST THEM OUT.

I THINK THAT WAS A CITY SLOT.

GOTCHA. OKAY. I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMENT.

IT APPEARS THAT THE WHOLE ISSUE OF ACCESS TO 1709 HAS BECOME A CUDGEL THAT WE CAN'T PROVIDE, AND THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE'S OPPOSED TO.

WE DO NOT BELIEVE, AND WE THINK WE'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT THIS OFFICE BUILDING IS REQUIRES THAT ALL BY ITSELF, ACCESS BACK TO 1709. IT HAS PLENTY OF ACCESS OFF OF CARROLL, AND WE BELIEVE IT'S SAFE ACCESS AND IS NOT AT A LEVEL THAT REQUIRES YOU KNOW, ANY CHANGES. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THE CROSS ACCESS IS THE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS AREA SAYS, AND THIS IS GOOD PLANNING, REGARDLESS, WHEN COMMERCIAL SITES DEVELOP AROUND A MAJOR INTERSECTION LIKE THIS, FOR THERE TO BE CROSS ACCESS BETWEEN EACH SITE WHEN IT DEVELOPS, WE'RE NOT ASKING MR. SHRUNK TO DEVELOP HIS OR SELL HIS PROPERTY.

NOW, THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THIS.

THE POINT IS THAT HIS PROPERTY AND THE UNDEVELOPED REMAINING PORTION OF DR.

MENDEZ'S PROPERTY, THAT MAY BE RESIDENTIAL FOR SOME TIME WHEN IT'S DEVELOPED, IT'S GOOD PLANNING FOR THOSE PROPERTIES TO BE CONNECTED IN CROSS ACCESS. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT OF THE SPECIAL AREA REQUIREMENT FOR THIS IS.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S FRANKLY MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF ACCESS FROM CARROLL FROM FROM THE OFFICE BUILDING.

THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT.

AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS IMMEDIATE NEED TO U-TURN RIGHT OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON AND AGAIN, I DODGED THE SAME TRAFFIC ON LAKEWOOD. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH HOW TO GET.

THERE'S A 20 SECOND GAP AND OPENING THAT I CAN TURN LEFT ON AT LAKEWOOD.

EVERYBODY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO LAKEWOOD AND TURN LEFT, AND THEY DO.

AND SO WE CAN ALL DO THAT.

BUT THE FACT THAT WE CAN EXIT ANYBODY AT FOXBOROUGH CAN EXIT ON 79 AND GO TO WHITES CHAPEL.

IT'S ANOTHER 30 SECOND TO ONE MINUTE DRIVE TO WHITES CHAPEL TO GO NORTH ON AND GET TO SAFELY TO 114.

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THIS IMMEDIATE RUSH NEED TO TURN AROUND ON CARROLL IS NOT NECESSARILY TO ME THAT DETRIMENTAL TO DRIVE ANOTHER FEW MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD.

SO PROXIMITY WISE YOU CAN SEE IT VERY, VERY CLOSE THAT WHITES CHAPEL TURNING RIGHT OUT OF FOXBOROUGH IS NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.

SO THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL.

JENNIFER, IS THERE A WAY WE COULD GET THAT ONE SLIDE? I THINK THAT WAS FROM YOURS. SORRY.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THOUGHTS? HOW ABOUT IF I START ON MY RIGHT? DR. SPRINGER, YOU'RE THE SENIOR MEMBER HERE.

WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A SHOT AT WHERE YOU'RE AT? WELL, JUST MY BACK OF THE CARD READ HERE.

WE HAD 19 AGAINST AND 2 FOR.

AND SO I, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO ON THE SIDE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE A CUDGEL, IT MAY BE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, CURTIS, BUT THE 1709 ACCESS OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE OFFICE, BUT OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

AND YOU KNOW, IF DR.

MENDEZ WANTS TO SELL THIS PROPERTY, THEN HE NEEDS TO ACCOMMODATE AN ACCESS OUT OF THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, THE CURB CUT FOR THE BUILDING, THE ACCESS, THE CROSS ACCESS.

OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS WANT THAT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IT WILL BE DEVELOPED NO MATTER WHERE IT IS DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST I JUST CAN'T SEE THAT BEING AN EMERGENCY ONLY EXIT AND THEN HAVING EVERYBODY HAVING TO GO THROUGH THESE TWO DRIVEWAYS AND MR. FRANK'S BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT HE WAS ADDING MORE TRAFFIC OR MORE PARKING FOR EVENTS LIKE THE 4TH OF JULY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WELL, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN HERE IS GOING TO TELL THEIR NEIGHBOR OR TO TO FRIENDS TO COME OVER AND PARK IN THE BANK PARKING LOT AND WE'LL HAVE A PARTY AND THEN WALK ACROSS THE STREET. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S JUST IT'S JUST GOING TO BE MORE CONGESTION IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE.

AND I AM NOT A FAN OF THE CURB CUT ON CARROLL AVENUE HAVING TO TURN IN THERE.

AND IN THE PAST TWO, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY PUTTING A SIDEWALK UP TO A CROSS TO A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK FURTHER NORTH. AND IF YOU LOOK IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE, THERE'S POWER UTILITY EVERYTHING IS IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE.

I DON'T I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT HAPPENING.

SO WE'VE STILL GOT THE WE STILL GOT THE, THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED AT ALL.

TO, TO GET OUT TO TOWN SQUARE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

MR. PHALEN.

YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK I STILL CAN'T GET ON BOARD WITH THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY AND NOT HAVING ACCESS TO 1709.

I THINK I AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE THAT'S SPOKEN HERE.

AND COMMISSIONER, OVER HERE, THAT I THINK ACCESS TO 1709 IS IMPERATIVE.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS STILL WELL WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE OWNER TO PROVIDE THAT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE I NEEDED TO SEE BEFORE I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH.

I MEAN, I DO LIKE SOME OF THE CHANGES YOU ALL MADE THE OFFICE BUILDING I POTENTIALLY COULD GET ON BOARD WITH, BUT NOT WITHOUT ACCESS TO 1709.

SO FOR ME, THIS IS JUST STILL NOT SOMETHING I CAN APPROVE.

ANY THOUGHTS ON MY LEFT? WELL, ONE ONE THOUGHT IS IT'S HARD FOR ME.

AND I APPRECIATE THE IMPASSIONED PLEA BY MR. FRANKS ABOUT THE NEED FOR A DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS THIS, BUT IT'S HARD FOR ME TO EVEN LOOK AT THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED ON ITS OWN.

IT'S THAT AND THE COMMERCIAL, AND IT'S JUST A LITTLE TOO MUCH ALL AT ONCE.

IN THE TWO STORY AS A CONCERN.

AND THEN WITH THE 80 PARKING SPACES THAT GO TO THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING, IT CREATES THE ISSUE OF THE TRAFFIC.

AND SO EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, THAT'S CAN CAN DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, IT MAY WORK OUT ON PAPER, BUT AS A RESIDENT THAT GOES THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION AT 1709 AND CARROLL MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY, YOU KNOW, ANECDOTALLY, I KNOW THAT THERE'S TRAFFIC THERE AND IT EBBS AND FLOWS WITH PEAKS AND SEASONS AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHEN TO AVOID IT, WHEN IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME AND EVERYBODY'S OUT SHOPPING AND JUST THE, THE DEMANDS.

AND ANYWAY, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING THAT EVERYONE ELSE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S JUST HARD TO, TO GET ON BOARD BECAUSE THERE'S JUST, YOU KNOW, REALLY TOO MUCH. AND WITH THE TRAFFIC WHICH ALSO LENDS TO THE CONCERN ABOUT THE ACCESS, IT'S JUST JUST TOO MUCH FOR ME TO REALLY BE ABLE TO CHAMPION. ALL RIGHT.

YEAH. I GUESS I'D START BY SAYING, I MEAN, I THINK THIS DEVELOPER'S A VERY, VERY GOOD DEVELOPER IN SOUTHLAKE HAS DONE A LOT OF GOOD, GOOD QUALITY PROJECTS IN THIS TOWN.

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AND I THINK HE CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THIS TOWN AND THE PROGRESS OF THIS TOWN AND IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND HE'S REALLY TRYING TO DO A PRODUCT THAT HE THINKS REALLY WILL FIT THIS TOWN.

AND, AND MEET SOME NEEDS OF SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE HERE.

I THINK THE CRUX OF IT REALLY IS THE DENSITY.

SURELY THAT'S A THAT'S A CHALLENGE FOR ME.

I THINK IF YOU'RE JUST CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND WHAT IS AROUND THERE, I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

I LIKE THE OFFICE BUILDING.

I THINK IT'S COOL. I THINK THE ARCHITECTURE IS REALLY NEAT, AND I THINK IT'LL BE WELL, WELL VIEWED WITHIN TOWN.

YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THE CRUX OF IT ENDS UP BEING IT'S THE SELLER.

LIKE, HE'S GOT TO BE WILLING TO WILLING TO DEAL WITH WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE, WHICH IS ACCESS TO 1709 AS WELL AS THE DENSITY.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

I WON'T BEAT A DEAD HORSE.

I TOLD YOU GUYS LAST TIME I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD DEVELOPER.

SAGE GROUP. OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS DO GOOD PROJECTS.

WHETHER THIS IS TOO DENSE OR NOT, I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

FOR ME, THE ISSUE IS ACCESS.

AND SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF IT.

SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

AND DENNIS, DO WE NEED TO TAKE SIX AND SEVEN TOGETHER OR SEPARATELY? I WOULD ASK YOU TO TAKE AN ACTION ON THEM INDIVIDUALLY.

OKAY. SO IF WE COULD GET A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER SIX, PLEASE.

OKAY. MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DECLINE ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA, CASE NUMBER CP 24 -0001, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MARCH 15TH, 2024.

AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AND BY DECLINE, YOU MEAN DENY.

DENY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE. THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO.

AND TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S A MOTION TO DENY.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

CAN I GET A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA.

CASE NUMBER ZA 23-0072, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MARCH 15,2024 AND SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER THREE DATED MARCH 15TH, 2024.

I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT ITEM CARRIES FIVE ZERO.

AND TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL ON ITEM SEVEN.

DENNIS, ANYTHING ELSE ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? NO, MR. CHAIRMAN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE ON THAT ITEM OR BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR LAST ITEM, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON THE AGENDA ZA 23-0073, WHICH IS THE CAR WASH I THINK SOME OF YOU ARE WAITING ON.

[8. Consider: ZA23-0073, Zoning Change and Site Plan for Tommy's Car Wash, for property described as Lot 13, Block 3R, Cimmaron Acres, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and Located at 101 N. Pearson Lane, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: "C-2" Local Retail Commercial District. Requested Zoning: "S-P-2" Generalizzed Site Plan District, SPIN Neighborhood #11. (This item was tabled to March 21, 2024 at the February 22, 2024 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting.) PUBLIC HEARING]

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

YES, SIR. PLEASE. OKAY.

THIS REQUEST IS FOR A ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS A CAR WASH AND A POTENTIAL RETAIL CENTER IN THE FUTURE. THE REQUESTED ZONING IS SP-2 GENERALIZED SITE PLAN.

WITH THE BASE ZONING OF C-2 AND THE CAR WASH USE.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED C-2 SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME BASE USES.

HERE'S AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE IN QUESTION AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PEARSON LANE AND WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

AGAIN, THE CURRENT ZONING IS C-2 AND THE LAND USE PLAN CALLS FOR RETAIL COMMERCIAL ON THE SITE.

IN 2005, THERE WAS AN APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE SITE, WHICH SHOWED A 17,000 JUST UNDER 18,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDING CONCEPTUALLY.

A FORMAL SITE PLAN WAS NEVER PROVIDED, BUT THIS JUST PROVIDED A GENERAL LAYOUT FOR THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING A NEW SITE PLAN, AND AS WELL AS WHAT WOULD ALSO ACT AS A CONCEPT PLAN IN A WAY.

THE SITE PLAN SHOWS A NEW CAR WASH TO BE BUILT ON THE WESTERN HALF OF SORRY, RATHER THE EASTERN HALF OF THE SITE. TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE EXISTING ACCESS POINT THAT IS OFF OF WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND ALIGNING THE DRIVE, THE CROSS ACCESS DRIVE

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