[2. SPIN2024-10 - An applicant is proposing updates for Carillon Pare located at the northeast corner of N. White Chapel Blvd. and E. Kirkwood Blvd. within SPIN Neighborhood #3. ]

JOHN TERRELL IS HERE TO PRESENT OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SPIN 2024-10.

AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING UPDATES FOR CARILLON PARK, LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD AND EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD WITHIN SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 3.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND GOOD EVENING.

I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU JUST AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING COMING BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

JUST REALLY QUICK, THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH YOU CAN SEE, WHICH WE'VE HAD IN FRONT OF COUNCIL SEVERAL TIMES, SO THIS SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT SURPRISES YOU AT ALL, BUT WE'RE NOW MOVING ON TO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF CARILLON PARK AND GETTING READY TO GO VERTICAL PROBABLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR OR BEGINNING OF NEXT.

OUR FIRST PHASE, WHICH WAS THE 79 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WE HAD FIVE CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS.

YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A LOT OF THE PROGRESS.

THIS IS JUST A FEW OF THE RENDERINGS OF SOME OF THE HOMES THAT THEY'RE GETTING READY TO BUILD.

THE FIVE CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS ARE JOHN ATWOOD, JOHN WEBB, PAUL MOSS, TRAVIS FRANKS, AND NICK SMITH.

YOU CAN SEE THERE, AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT PROJECT OUT HERE AND CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS THAT HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE AND ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

HERE IS JUST SOME OF THE RENDERING OR THE AERIALS TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE.

THESE ARE JUST LESS THAN TWO WEEK OLD AERIALS OF THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WORK IS TAKING PLACE OUT THERE ON THE SITE.

THIS IS FROM THE NORTHEAST SIDE AT KIRKWOOD.

THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN, EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN THE LIGHT PURPLE AND THE NORTHERN RESIDENTIAL LOTS, THAT WAS CONSIDERED PHASE 1.

WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO PHASE 1A,

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WHICH IS VERY EXCITING.

WE'VE GOT A FEW DIFFERENT MODIFICATIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING FROM THE CITY AND THAT WE WANT A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENS IN CARILLON AND ALL THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING LIKE ON THE FIRST PHASE OF THE COMMERCIAL.

THIS IS LOOKING DOWN TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST AT THE INTERSECTION OF WHITE CHAPEL AND THE SERVICE ROAD AT 114.

THIS IS OVERLOOKING FROM THE SERVICE ROAD DOWN ON THE COMMERCIAL LOCATION WITH THE AREA ON THE LEFT BEING THE PAD SITES FOR THE TWO BUILDINGS ALONG WHITE CHAPEL, AND THEN THE AREA THAT'S CLEARED, IN THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN IS WHERE THE RESTAURANTS WOULD BE SITUATED.

THEN THIS IS TAKEN FROM LOOKING TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE CARILLON ENTRANCE SIGN AND THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT.

YOU CAN SEE WE'VE MADE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF PROGRESS ON ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THERE, THE STREETS, UTILITIES, AND PART OF THE MASS GRADING ON THE COMMERCIAL HAS ALREADY BEGUN.

THIS IS JUST A HIGHLIGHT REAL QUICK, AND I'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON EACH ONE OF THE REVISIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

ONE IS ON THE CHANGE FROM A PUBLIC PARK TO A DESIGNATION AS TO OPEN SPACE.

WE ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CITY ALLOW THE DEVELOPER FLEXIBILITY ON THE BUILDING THAT'S LABELED NUMBER 2 TO MAKE THAT INTO A REVENUE GENERATING MIXED USE RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL IF THE CITY CONTINUES AND DOES NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PUBLIC LIBRARY OR PERFORMING ARTS.

ON NUMBER 3 IS REALLY NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY EVEN COME TO THE CITY WITH AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE JUST COMBINING TWO BUILDINGS INTO ONE, WHICH I'LL GO OVER.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ASKING FOR A RETENTION POND, DETENTION POND WITH A FOUNTAIN AND PAVILION ON NUMBER 4.

FIVE, DEDICATION OF PUBLIC ROAD, CHANGING THAT TO A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY WHERE THAT IS LOCATED, AND THEN ALSO GETTING APPROVAL FOR A SECOND ENTRANCE ALONG THE SERVICE ROAD ON NUMBER 6.

THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE ON THE SIZE OF THE UNITS FOR THE CONDOMINIUMS. AS JUST TO GIVE YOU A POINT OF REFERENCE, THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT, IS WHAT THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN SHOWED AS PARK SPACE.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ON THE RIGHT, BECAUSE BUILDINGS HAVE MOVED IS APPROXIMATELY THE SAME ACREAGE, BUT INSTEAD OF MAKING THAT A PARK, WE WANT TO TURN THAT TO A DESIGNATION OF OPEN SPACE.

NOW, THE OPEN SPACE, I WANT TO MAKE VERY CERTAIN THAT EVERYBODY IS VERY CLEAR.

THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE AMENITIES.

IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE MAINTENANCE.

IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE LOOK, FEEL, THE FOUNTAINS.

IT'S NOT LIKE IT IS OPEN SPACE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON, IN FACT, THE FACEBOOK PAGES THAT SOME FOLKS THOUGHT THAT THIS OPEN SPACE WAS JUST GOING TO BE OPEN LAND.

IT DOES NOT ASK FOR THE REDUCTION IN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AREA.

THE WATER FEATURES AND ALL THE DIFFERENT AMENITIES GO IN EXACTLY THE SAME, AND WE WOULD LOOK TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL POND, WHICH IS A FOUNTAIN AND PAVILION.

WHY DO WE NEED TO DO THAT? WHAT'S OUR RATIONALE? WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, IF WE DO THAT, WE WOULD RENEGOTIATE THE INCENTIVE PACKAGE, IT REMOVES IT FROM THE CITY AS AN OBLIGATION THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE UNDER AN INCENTIVE AGREEMENT TO PAY FOR 50% OF THE PARK COST TO BUILD.

THEY ALSO HAVE 100% OF THE COST TO MAINTAIN THAT PARK INTO THE FUTURE.

THEN, OF COURSE, THEY WOULD HAVE STAFF ASSOCIATED WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PARK.

IF WE CHANGE THAT TO OPEN SPACE, IT PUTS IT BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS, SO IT IS NO LONGER AVOIDING TAXES AS A PUBLIC PARK.

THE DEVELOPER WILL BUILD THE ROAD THAT YOU SEE IN THE BLUE, WHICH WOULD CONNECT THROUGH THE PARK TO ALLOW THE LIBRARY/PERFORMING ARTS OR THE PRIVATE SECTOR, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT BUILDING AT THAT LOCATION.

THE TWO FINAL POINTS ARE THE KEY ISSUES AND WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR OPEN SPACE VERSUS PUBLIC PARK.

IF WE KEEP IT AS PUBLIC PARK, THE DEVELOPER HAS TO ENTER INTO A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

THAT MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT PUTS THE CITY PRETTY MUCH IN CONTROL OF ALL THE OPERATIONS, LONG-TERM, THE PROGRAMMING OF IT, AND YOU HAVE TO ENTER INTO A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S NOT PERMANENT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING AND PAYING FOR FOUR-AND-A-HALF TO FIVE MILLION DOLLARS OF A WATER FEATURE.

THAT THE CITY WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO PROGRAM AND DICTATE AS TO HOW THAT HAPPENS, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THE DEVELOPER, WITH THE RESTAURANTS, THE RETAIL,

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BE ABLE TO PROGRAM, JUST LIKE BELLAGIO DOES, WITH ITS FOUNTAIN EVERY 30 MINUTES, YOU HAVE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THAT AND CAN RELY ON THE OPERATIONS OF THAT FACILITY.

THAT IS A BIG PART OF IT.

THE OTHER PART IS THAT ONCE DEDICATED AS A PUBLIC PARK.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CONTINUED ENGINEERING, THOSE BUILDINGS MAY TWIST.

ONCE YOU DEDICATE STATE LAW AND THE POLICIES REQUIRE THAT ONCE IT'S DEDICATED AS A PUBLIC PARK, AND YOU NEED TO MAKE CHANGES, YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CITIZENS FOR A PUBLIC REFERENDUM TO CHANGE THAT PARK.

WELL, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDINGS.

WE'VE ALREADY SPENT A HUGE INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO GET TO THIS POINT.

IF YOU CAN IMAGINE HAVING ANY CHANGES AND THEN HAVING GOING TO THE CITY AT LARGE TO ASK FOR A PUBLIC REFERENDUM TO MODIFY AND TURN A BUILDING, THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT.

WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT THEY'RE GETTING IN OPEN SPACE IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT WAS GOING TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF NOW OPEN SPACE, IT'S JUST THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD THEN BE IN CONTROL OF THAT AREA.

BUT ALL THE AMENITIES WOULD STILL BE THE SAME.

THAT BUILDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

THAT WAS THE LOCATION THAT THE CITY HAD IDENTIFIED FOR PUBLIC LIBRARY/PERFORMING ARTS.

AS ALL OF US KNOW, THE CITY DID SOME MAJOR STUDIES.

CARILLON WAS IDENTIFIED THROUGH ACROSS THE CITY AS THE PLACE FOR THE LIBRARY.

BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY, THE CITY COUNCIL DETERMINED THAT THEY WERE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED, SO THEY BACKED OFF OF THAT.

WE THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDISCUSS THAT AND HAVE THAT POTENTIALLY STILL BE A LIBRARY OR PERFORMING ARTS.

WE ARE WILLING TO PUT THE BUILDING OR THAT LOCATION UP FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.

WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS ONCE, BUT WE WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO MAKE A DECISION WITHIN SIX MONTHS, AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONVERT THAT INTO A REVENUE TAX GENERATING FACILITY SO THAT WE STILL SURROUND THAT PARK WITH THE FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE IT AN ACTIVE PARK AND BENEFIT THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

WE WOULD HAVE A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THE OVERALL OPEN SPACE/PARK ACREAGE, BASED ON THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT BUILDING BECAUSE THAT'S SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF WHERE SOME OF THAT OPEN SPACE IS LOCATED.

NEXT ONE IS A PROPOSED REVISION NUMBER 3, AND IT'S REALLY NOT A REVISION REQUEST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL.

IT'S MORE OF A HEADS UP TO THE CITIZENS AND EVERYBODY IN ADVANCE, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE TWO OUT PICTURES, IS IT WAS TWO BUILDINGS.

WE WANT TO COMBINE IT INTO ONE.

THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THAT IS THAT AS WE STUDIED THE PARKING, WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE INSUFFICIENT PARKING TO SUPPORT THIS OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.

ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THAT IS BY COMBINING THOSE BUILDINGS.

AS YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE COMBINED BUILDING, THERE'S A LITTLE ROAD THAT COMES INTO IT.

IT'S ACTUALLY A DRIVEWAY AND WE CAN BUILD AN UNDERGROUND PARKING UNDER THAT BUILDING THAT THEN PROVIDES MOST OF THE PARKING FOR THAT ENTIRE BUILDING WITHOUT HAVING TO USE SURFACE PARKING OR THE PARKING GARAGES.

THE CITIZENS WILL NEVER KNOW ANYTHING OTHER THAN THERE'S A PARKING GARAGE UNDER THE BUILDING, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FOR THAT.

THIS IS JUST REALLY A HEADS UP OF WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO.

DEVELOPERS ALSO RAN INTO SOME ISSUES WITH THE OWNER OF THE 10 ACRE TRACT THAT IS TO THE SOUTHEAST, WHICH WE BELIEVE WE HAVE THE RIGHTS, BUT THEY'RE CHALLENGING THOSE RIGHTS TO GET THE STORM DRAINAGE WATER ACROSS FROM THIS SITE, ACROSS THE 10 ACRES AND TO THE TWO LAKES THAT WERE BUILT TO PROVIDE ALL THE STORM DRAINAGE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF CARILLON, WHICH INCLUDED THE CARILLON PARK PROPERTIES WAY BACK IN THE 2008, 2009 TIME FRAME.

WE DO NOT WANT TO BE HELD UP THROUGH CONTROVERSY OR LITIGATION WITH THIS ADJOINING OWNER.

WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD AN AMENITY THAT WILL HANDLE THE STORM DRAINAGE, BUT ALSO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL AMENITY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S AT ADDITIONAL COST BY BUILDING A POND, A WATER FEATURE FOUNTAIN, AND A PAVILION THAT WOULD BE FACING AND BE YOUR ENTRANCE FROM THE CARILLON AREA, OR NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THROUGH TO WHATEVER THAT BUILDING IS, WHETHER IT'S A PUBLIC LIBRARY, PERFORMING ARTS OR SOME RESTAURANT RETAIL FACILITY.

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YOU CAN SEE THE RETENTION POND AND PAVILION, WHICH IS AREA IN BLUE.

THE PICTURE ON THE FAR RIGHT IS THE RUSTIN PARK PAVILION.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OUT IN FRONT ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD HERE IN TOWN SQUARE.

BUT WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT HOW WE DESIGN THAT TO BE A LITTLE BIT ARCHITECTURALLY MORE OF A MATCH WITH THE CARILLON ARCHITECTURE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, AND SO I'VE GOT A PICTURE OF THE CARILLON PAVILION AND FOUNTAIN THAT IS ON THE LAKE CURRENTLY, AND WE CAN BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THAT WITH THE RETENTION POND, FOUNTAINS AND BE AN ABSOLUTE BEAUTIFUL AMENITY IN THERE.

THAT WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL, WE WEREN'T EVEN REQUESTING THAT BECAUSE IT IS AN ADDITIONAL COST.

WE ARE LOOKING TO REQUEST THAT FROM THE CITY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPORTED.

>> IF NOT, AND WE HAVE TO RUN AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT THROUGH LITIGATION AND OTHER MEANS TO GET ACROSS THE TEN ACRE TRACT, IT MAY GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BECAUSE WE CANNOT START CONSTRUCTION UNTIL WE CAN SUPPLY OR PROVE THAT WE HAVE THE DRAINAGE AND DETENTION AREAS TO GET STORM OFF OF THIS SITE, SO IT WOULD DELAY CONSTRUCTION UNTIL WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

ANOTHER ONE THAT I THINK IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY EASY DECISION, BUT THIS IS WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT, MAKE SURE WE HEAR FROM EVERYONE IS CURRENTLY THE AREA SHOWN AS FIVE WAS PLANNED TO BE DEDICATED AS A PUBLIC STREET.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING THOUGH AT THIS AND THIS ROAD HERE THAT IS WHAT WAS JUST CONSTRUCTED, IS A TWO WAY ROADWAY WITH SIDE SURFACE PARKING THAT IS THE LOOP AROUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

THIS AREA, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED, AFTER RECEIVING AND HAVING NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS WITH VERY HIGH END CHEF DRIVEN RESTAURANTS, THEY REQUIRE SEVERAL THINGS.

THEY REQUIRE VALET PARKING AT THE HIGH END RESTAURANTS, AND THEY REQUIRE A NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED FOR THEIR RESTAURANT INSIDE THE GARAGE.

THEY NEED SPEED OF MOVING THOSE VALETS, AND THEY NEED A MOBILITY PLAN THAT ALLOWS THEM TO MOVE IN AND OUT OF THERE QUICKLY.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO THE CITY NOW IS THAT THIS JUG HANDLE AREA, INSTEAD OF IT BEING A PUBLIC ROAD, WE WOULD CONVERT IT INTO A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY THAT THEN CAN BE MANAGED FOR ALL OF THE THROUGH TRAFFIC.

WE CAN TURN IT INTO ONE WAY TRAFFIC INSTEAD OF BOTH WAYS.

THAT'S WHERE FOLKS, WE HOPE WILL BE PARKING ALL THEIR FERRARIS, LAMBORGHINIS, AND MASERATI'S OUT FRONT.

THEN THIS LITTLE AREA RIGHT HERE, WE'VE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY AS A RESULT OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CHEF DRIVEN RESTAURANTS.

THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR VALET PEOPLE IN AND OUT AND THOSE CARS MOVE QUICKLY.

YOU DO NOT WANT THIS AREA STACKED UP WITH CARS.

THAT IS A SPEED RAMP FOR VALET ONLY.

IT GOES DIRECTLY INTO THE GARAGE SO THAT THE VALET CAN TAKE IT, DROP IT INTO THEIR DESIGNATED SPOTS AND BE BACK VERY QUICKLY.

THIS IS THE UBER, THE LIFT DROP OFF, AND THE VALET PARKING.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE.

IT TAKES THE CITY OUT OF ANY LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF THIS AREA, SO THEY GET OUT OF ANOTHER FINANCIAL OBLIGATION.

WE WERE ALREADY GOING TO BUILD IT ANYWAY, AND IT JUST SIMPLY CHANGES IT SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE.

WHEN YOU GET INTO THESE HIGH END MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS, THE PROGRAMMING AND THE MOVEMENT OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE BECOME CRITICAL.

OTHERWISE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THOSE HIGH END FOLKS BECAUSE THEY EXPECT VERY HIGH END CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR THEIR GUESTS.

THAT ONE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF PHASE 1A, WHICH IS UPCOMING.

WE WOULD BUILD THAT IN THE NEXT STEP, WHEN WE GO VERTICAL, WE'RE BUILDING THE CONDOS OVER RETAIL.

WE'RE BUILDING THE TWO BUILDINGS OVER ON WHITES CHAPEL, AND WE'RE BUILDING THE TWO RESTAURANT BUILDINGS THAT HAVE FOUR RESTAURANTS, TWO RESTAURANTS IN EACH BUILDING, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE PARK.

PART OF THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS VALET PRIVATE DRIVEWAY.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER RENDERING SHOWING WHAT WOULD BE DEDICATED AS PARK, THE PROPOSED OPEN SPACE, WHICH WOULD ACT JUST LIKE THE PARK, THE LABELING OF EACH BUILDING TYPE ON EACH ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, AND SHOWING THAT PROPOSED PRIVATE DRIVE VALET SPEED RAMP AREA THAT WE'RE ASKING TO MOVE FORWARD IN.

THIS IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT FOR CARILLON PARK, BUT IT'S ALSO INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY AT LARGE AND TROPHY CLUB AND SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES GOING WEST.

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THE STATE OF TEXAS DECIDED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO A HIGHWAY 114 RAMP REVERSAL PROJECT.

I'VE PRESENTED THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES PREVIOUSLY.

BUT WHAT THAT DOES IS THEY'RE TAKING THE OFF RAMPS AND ON RAMPS ONTO 114, AND THEY'RE SIMPLY FLIPPING THEM.

THEY HAD A RATIONALE FOR THAT BECAUSE IT IMPROVES THE OPERATIONS, ACCESSIBILITY, MOBILITY ON THE HIGHWAY.

IT IS ALREADY FULLY FUNDED FOR THE DESIGN.

THEY HAVE EVERY SINGLE LAND OWNER ALONG THE ENTIRE HIGHWAY ON BOTH SIDES NORTH AND SOUTH OF 114 IN COMPLIANCE AND IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS GOOD FOR ALL OF THEM.

THE CONSTRUCTION ISN'T QUITE YET FULLY FUNDED, BUT ANTICIPATED THAT IT WILL BE.

IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN TWO YEARS ONCE FUNDED.

WE HAVE MET WITH TXDOT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE TXDOT DOES GIVE PREFERENCE TO DEVELOPERS WHO ARE ABOUT TO START CONSTRUCTION SO THAT YOU CAN PLAN YOUR DEVELOPMENT APPROPRIATELY, AND A BIG PART OF THIS RAMP REVERSAL IS TO IMPROVE THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES OF THE LANDS ALONG THE SERVICE ROADS.

I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A MOMENT.

BUT WE HAVE GONE PERSONALLY, AND AS A DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND ASK FOR THE ADVANCED APPROVAL SO THAT THE SECOND ACCESS DRIVE WOULD BE APPROVED VERY EARLY IN THEIR PROCESS, AS WELL AS WE'RE REQUESTING AN ADVANCED APPROVAL AS THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO BUILD, THAT WE WOULD MOVE THIS PIECE UP TO THE FRONT OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY VERY EASY FOR THE STATE TO DO.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A $400 MILLION DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOPEFULLY CONVINCE THEM TO MOVE US UP TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION PHASING THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT IS, BUT THAT THE RED ARROW IS SHOWING WHERE THAT SECOND ENTRANCE IS, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A DEVELOPER TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE MORE ACCESS POINTS THAT YOU HAVE INTO A DEVELOPMENT, THE BETTER IT'S GOING TO BE NOT ONLY FOR YOUR TENANTS, BUT ALL THE CUSTOMERS THAT COME INTO THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS IN AND OUT, AND YOU DON'T GET STACKED INTO A QUEUE SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE WAITING ON TRAFFIC.

BUT AS YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP, WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS THIS LITTLE GRAY LINE IS THE CURRENT EXIT RAMP FROM WESTBOUND 114 ONTO THE SERVICE ROAD, AND IT COMES UP TO WHITES CHAPEL LIGHT RIGHT HERE.

BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF WHERE THIS HITS THE SERVICE ROAD, THIS WAS NOT ALLOWED TO BE A LOCATION FOR AN ENTRANCE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SAFELY WEAVE ACROSS THE SERVICE ROAD TO TURN IN AT THIS LOCATION.

WE HAD BECAUSE OF TXDOT'S REQUIREMENTS ABOUT DISTANCE BACK, FROM YOUR INTERSECTION, YOU HAVE SO MANY HUNDRED FEET COMING BACK.

BECAUSE OF THIS WEAVING, THIS WAS THE SINGLE LOCATION THAT TXDOT WOULD APPROVE FOR AN ACCESS IN OFF OF THE SERVICE ROAD.

IF THIS IS FLIPPED, YOU CAN SEE THIS GRAY LINE RIGHT HERE IS CURRENTLY THE ENTRANCE ONTO 114 WESTBOUND.

THOSE WOULD FLIP, MAKING THIS ENTRANCE ONTO 114 RIGHT HERE, AND THIS EXIT FROM 114 ONTO THE WESTBOUND SERVICE ROAD, BACK HERE JUST TO THE WEST OF CARROLL AVENUE.

NOW, WHAT DOES THAT DO? NOT ONLY DOES IT BENEFIT THIS PROJECT, BUT IT ACTUALLY NOW OPENS UP ALL OF THIS LAND TO EASE OF ACCESS BECAUSE YOU'RE EXITING THE HIGHWAY BACK HERE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXIT TO GET HERE BACK EAST OF CARROLL AVENUE, GO THROUGH A LIGHT AND THEN GET TO THESE PROPERTY.

THIS IS A GOOD THING. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY ISN'T GOING TO HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THIS ONE AT ALL, BUT IT'S NOT IN OUR CURRENT APPROVAL.

WE ARE GOING BACK TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO APPROVE IT AS WELL.

THE APPROVAL WILL BE CONTINGENT UPON TXDOT FINAL APPROVAL, FINAL FUNDING, AND CONSTRUCTION OF THIS.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE ASKING IS THAT ON THE CONDOS, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY GOTTEN APPROVAL TO DO A MINIMUM OF 2,300 SQUARE FOOT PER CONDO.

WE ARE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE NUMBER OF CONDOS.

WE HAVE 50 CONDOS THAT ARE APPROVED.

WE HAVE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THOSE CONDOS.

IT WAS 115,000 SQUARE FEET.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE A 2,300 SQUARE FOOT CONDO IS LARGE FOR CONDOS.

WE HAD ASKED FOR SOMETHING LESS.

COUNSEL SAID, COME BACK, WE'LL CONSIDER 2,000 AS THE MINIMUM,

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BUT WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT A 2,300 SQUARE FOOT AVERAGE 2,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM, NO MORE STILL THAN 50 UNITS AND NO MORE THAN 115,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME.

IT WILL JUST ALLOW US TO DO A FEW SMALLER, BUT THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEW LARGER, BECAUSE IF WE GIVE UP 300 FEET ON ONE TO GO DOWN TO 200, YOU HAVE TO ADD 300 FEET TO ONE OF THE OTHER PRODUCTS.

THIS JUST GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE MARKET TO ATTRACT DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT MAY NOT WANT 2,300 SQUARE FEET, BUT ARE WILLING TO PAY $100 PER SQUARE FOOT ON A CONDO.

THIS WILL BE THE HIGHEST VALUED PER SQUARE FOOT RESIDENTIAL IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE. WE ALREADY HAVE A LIST.

WE'VE BEEN TAKING IT FOR MONTHS OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY.

I HAVE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE TRYING TO GIVE ME DEPOSITS NOW, AND WE JUST ARE TELLING THEM, WE CAN'T TAKE DEPOSITS.

WE CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE DESIGN IS YET, BUT THEY WANT TO KNOW AS SOON AS WE'RE READY I THINK THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO GO VERY RAPIDLY.

IN FACT, PERSONALLY, I WANT TO OWN ONE OF THESE.

IT'LL BE ONE OF THE BEST INVESTMENTS IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA. HERE'S A COUPLE.

THE RENDERINGS REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED.

WE'VE STILL GOT THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, THE EUROPEAN THEME, THE EXPERIENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS, THE DECK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE THAT'S NEXT TO THE FOUR RESTAURANTS THAT OVERLOOK THE PARK AREA WITH THE KIOSK.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE TALKING OPEN SPACE VERSUS PARK.

WE'VE GOT 12 KIOSKS THAT ARE APPROVED INSIDE WHAT IS CURRENTLY A PARK.

WE HAVE A FOUNTAIN THAT WE'RE PAYING $4.5-5 MILLION ON THAT'S INSIDE THE PARK.

AS A DEVELOPER, WE CAN'T TURN THE OPERATIONS OVER TO THE CITY.

THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTROLLED AND PROGRAMMED APPROPRIATELY ON A DAILY BASIS.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY TO SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO COME IN AND LET'S JUST SAY THEY WANT TO THROW A GIANT PARTY BECAUSE THEY'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A BIRTH, AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO A GENDER REVEAL.

WE TURN THE ENTIRE THING INTO PINK OR BLUE TO DO A GENDER REVEAL OF THIS FOUNTAIN.

WE'LL HAVE PROGRAMMING EVERY 30 MINUTES.

WE CAN DROP THIS THING TO NOTHING SO THAT IT'S JUST BERRY BUBBLING OR DRY SO THAT WE CAN BRING IN BANDS AND DO THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT THAT FACES UP TOWARDS THE RESTAURANTS AS WE'VE ALREADY PLANNED.

THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND THIS AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS NOT PARK VILLAGE FOUNTAIN AT THE CORNER OF DIAGONAL.

IT WILL WORK.

WE HAVE THIS ONE OF THE TOP TWO WATER FEATURE COMPANIES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT ARE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

WE HAVE A 20 BY 40 FOOT VAULT UNDERNEATH IT THAT DOES ALL OF THE PUMP STATIONS AND EVERYTHING.

THERE IS AN ENTIRE SEPARATE TECHNOLOGY AND ELECTRONICS VAULT THAT DOES ALL OF THE PROGRAMMING.

IT HAS SENSORS THAT WHEN THE WIND GETS UP, AND IF IT STARTS TO BLOW TOWARDS ANYBODY, IT DIALS IT DOWN.

THERE IS SO MUCH TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED IN THIS.

THIS IS NOT THE FOUNTAINS THAT YOU'RE USED TO IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

THESE ARE RENDERINGS THE TWO BUILDINGS IN THE BACKGROUND BACK HERE WERE WHAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR LIBRARY PERFORMING ARTS, WE'RE SIMPLY LOOKING NOW AT EITHER THE CITY REDECIDING, BECAUSE THE CITY DOES HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE THAT COULD DO THIS IF THEY CHOSE.

WE HAVE ALL OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING, TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE REALLY THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL WITH THAT LIBRARY HERE.

BUT IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SOME OF THE BEST MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS WHERE YOU HAVE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, HAVE SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC FACILITY THAT IS ONE OF THE DRAWS, JUST LIKE TOWN SQUARE HAS TOWN HALL.

IF YOU HAVE THAT PUBLIC FACILITY, AND IF YOU LOOK EVEN ON THE LIBRARY WEBSITE PAGE FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE DRAW.

IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, WE'RE SOME OF THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE USES OF OUR LIBRARY IN THE BASEMENT.

IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE IN TERMS OF A DRAW IF YOU PUT IT INTO A SETTING ALONG THESE LINES.

THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF DISCUSSION NOW ABOUT EXPANDING THE IDEA OF JUST THE LIBRARY OR THAT BUILDING FACILITY AND DOING SOME MEMORIAL OR MUSEUM OR SOMETHING FOR MILITARY.

THERE'S ALL SORTS OF WAYS TO HONOR THAT,

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BUT COMBINING THAT INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT THEN MORE THAN JUST THE FACILITY.

I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I KEPT IT RIGHT UNDER 30 MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR TERRELL.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE USE THE PHONE IN THE MICROPHONE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR COMMENTS WILL BE CAPTURED. THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR.

>> HI. [INAUDIBLE] I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF SOUTHLAKE SINCE 1969.

I'M CURIOUS HOW THE RAMP REVERSALS ARE EXPECTED TO THE CONSTRUCTION, LIKE ON DOVE.

IS THERE AN ANTICIPATED.

>> THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DIDN'T MENTION IS THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO LANES ON THE INTERIOR OF THE HIGHWAY THAT WILL ALSO BE EXPANDED.

IT'S NOT JUST RAMP REVERSAL, IT'S WIDENING OF THE HIGHWAY TO THE INSIDE, NOT TO THE OUTSIDE.

IT IS A MONSTER PROJECT.

THE TIMING OF THAT AND CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE RAMP REVERSALS COULD BE HANDLED INDIVIDUALLY.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE IT UP, BUT THEY HAVE NOT DETERMINED WHAT THAT SCHEDULE AND THE WHOLE PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE, AND THEY HAVEN'T DETERMINED WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE AT EACH ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS WHERE THOSE RAMP REVERSALS OCCUR.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, RAMP REVERSALS DO NOT IMPACT THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE THEY'RE EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER THE INTERSECTION, AND THEY DON'T HAVE CONSTRUCTION INVOLVED IN THE INTERSECTIONS.

>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW THE TRAFFIC WAS GOING TO BE HANDLED. THAT WAS FORETHOUGHT.

>> WELL, AND I AM, TOO.

[LAUGHTER] FOR US, FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS TOWARDS THE END OF LAST YEAR, IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT, POSITIVE, BUT ALSO WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS THAT IF WE CAN MOVE UP THE RAMPS REVERSAL AT OUR LOCATION FIRST, IT CAN BE HAPPENING DURING THE TWO YEAR PERIOD.

WE'RE GOING VERTICAL, AND WE WON'T BE IMPACTING EVERYBODY TRYING TO GET INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO CONVINCE THE STATE TO DO IT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GOING VERTICAL WITH THE COMMERCIAL SO THAT IT OPENS AT THE SAME TIME.

>> NICE. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.

>> DAVID GIOVANNI, TEN-YEAR RESIDENT OF CARILLON.

DIDN'T INTEND TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED WHAT YOU SAID, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE STILL LOOKING TO IMPROVE WHAT THEY'VE STARTED.

I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THOUGH.

>> YES.

>> AS FAR AS THE MAINTENANCE OF THIS OPEN SPACE, IF YOU'RE NOW REMOVING IT FROM THE CITY, WHERE IS THE REVENUE GOING TO COME TO MAINTAIN THAT, SO IT STAYS AT A HIGH STANDARD?

>> THE DEVELOPER IS ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT IT INTO WHAT'S CALLED THE POA, WHICH IS THE COMMERCIAL OWNERS ASSOCIATION.

ALL THE TENANTS WILL HAVE AS PART OF THEIR RENT, AN ASSOCIATION FEE TO MAINTAIN THE PARK.

WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A HIGHER INTEREST OF KEEPING THAT MAINTAINED AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN ANYBODY ELSE ON THE PLANET, AND SO DO ALL OF OUR TENANTS, BECAUSE IF IT STARTED TO GET IN DISREPAIR, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY COMING TO THE HIGHEST END STATEHOUSE AND SEEING WEEDS.

WE THINK THAT WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE EVEN A HIGHER MAINTENANCE STANDARD THAN THE CITY WOULD AND WE'LL TAKE ON ALL THAT EXPENSE.

>> IF THE CITY FINALLY COMES TO ITS SENSES AND SEES THAT A LIBRARY WOULD BE A VERY BIG PART OF IMPROVING THE CITY OVERALL, WHERE WOULD THE LOSS REVENUE FROM THAT BUILDING BE MADE UP FOR,

>> ON THE POA, IF THEY DECIDED NOT TO DO THE LIBRARY, WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ALLOWANCE TO CHANGE THAT BUILDING, WHICH WE'VE BEEN PLANNING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE, TO A REVENUE GENERATOR.

IT'S GOING TO GENERATE MORE TAXES FOR THE CITY.

IT'LL GENERATE MORE REVENUE AND ACTUALLY HELP THE POA.

IT'S A NO LOSE IF THE CITY IS WILLING TO ALLOW THAT BUILDING TO BECOME SOMETHING ELSE IF THEY DON'T DO LIBRARY.

IF THEY DON'T DO THE LIBRARY AND DON'T ALLOW THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING, THE CONVERSION, THEN THAT IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE NOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC WE INTENDED WITH THE LIBRARY, AND WE DON'T HAVE A SUBSTITUTE TRAFFIC DRIVER AND REVENUE GENERATOR IN THAT SPOT.

>> THEN ANOTHER QUESTION, AS FAR AS CARILLONS HOA 404 HOMES, THE PROPOSED VILLAS THAT ARE NOW BEING PREPARED TO BE BUILT, ARE THEY GOING TO BE PART OF THE HOA, AND WILL THEY CONTRIBUTE TO HOA FINANCIALS?

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>> THAT'S A BIG QUESTION.

WE WENT EARLY ON TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CARILLON HOA WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THIS IF WE ROLL IT IN.

WE CREATED AN HOA IN THE INTERIM THAT ALMOST MIRRORS ALMOST IDENTICALLY THE CARILLON HOA.

REMEMBER TOO, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR TO THE VILLAS.

WE BASED THEM ON THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGES ON LOT SIZES.

BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE 4,000 SQUARE FEET.

THEY'RE GOING TO START AT 1,000,008.

THE VALUES AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE NEW RESIDENTS THAT WILL BE COMING IN HERE IS GOING TO BE HIGH.

IT'S ALSO A VERY EASY TRANSFER, AND THAT'S WHY WE CREATED IT THE WAY WE DID OF THE HOA AND SIMPLY MOVE IT OVER.

WE, IN FACT, ARE ALSO USING THE SAME MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT DOES THE HOA FOR CARILLON FOR THIS HOA AND WE GOT ADVICE FROM THEM ON HOW TO DO IT SO THAT IT WOULD MAKE THE EASIEST TRANSITION IF CARILLON STILL WANTS IT.

WHEN THESE START GETTING BUILT, IT'S A VERY EASY TRANSITION.

IF IT DOESN'T, THEN WE STILL HAVE AN HOA THAT MIRRORS THE HOA FOR CARILLON.

HOWEVER, I THINK CARILLON IS GOING TO WANT IT SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PAYMENTS WITH HARDLY ANY JOINT USE COMMON AREA SPACE, COSTS.

IT BRINGS IN SOME GOOD REVENUE INTO THE CARILLON HOA IF IT MOVES INTO IT.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU 100% ON THAT.

BUT WHAT'S TO PREVENT YOUR HOA FROM JUST DECIDING, WE DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF CARILLON? WILL THERE BE A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE OWNERS TO MAKE THAT MOVE, OR IS IT GOING TO BE CONTROLLED BY THE DEVELOPER?

>> UNTIL THE END, IT'S CONTROLLED BY THE DEVELOPER.

WE DID LEAVE THAT IN THERE, SO WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

>> ONE LAST QUESTION, THE CONDOMINIUMS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING, WILL THEY BE ALLOWING ANY TYPE OF SHORT TERM RENTALS, IE, AIRBNB'S?

>> NO. TO THE EXTENT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT.

THE CITY CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS.

IT PROBABLY NEEDS ONE.

I DON'T THINK RIGHT NOW THAT THAT IS WHAT IS PLANNED.

MOST OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE OWNERS THAT WANT TO LIVE THERE.

BUT SOME WILL BE DOING IT AS AN INVESTMENT.

I DON'T THINK WE WANT THAT TO BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL AREA.

I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND SOMETHING THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD PROBABLY CONSIDER BEFORE IT GETS TO THAT POINT.

>> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? YES, SIR.

>> HI, JOHN GARRY MARTIN, LONG TIME. CAR RESIDENT.

THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, WITH THE HIGHWAY REVERSAL, YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUT ANOTHER ENTRANCE INTO CARILLON PARK HERE.

HOW FAR EAST WILL THAT BE? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE TRAFFIC'S NOT GOING TO BE CHANNELED?

>> IT CAN'T GET INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.

>> ON AND CARILLON COURT.

>> HERE'S WHERE IT IS. THIS IS THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT OUR CURRENT PLAN IS TO HAVE A ROAD THAT COMES IN HERE, IT COMES DOWN TO HERE, AND THIS IS ONLY AN EMERGENCY ACCESS FOR FIRE INTO THIS AREA, BECAUSE NONE OF THE RESIDENTS IN CARILLON WANTED THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TRAFFIC FLOW INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, SO WE KEPT ALL THAT OFF.

IF YOU LOOK HERE, THIS ROAD, ALL WE WOULD DO IS BE ADDING A DRIVEWAY AT THIS LOCATION.

IT DOESN'T CHANGE TRAFFIC FLOW EXCEPT INSTEAD OF GOING IN RIGHT HERE, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN RIGHT HERE.

WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THIS LOCATION, IT IS A RIGHT ONLY.

THE SERVICE ROADS ONE WAY.

THIS WILL NOT IMPACT ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC.

>> THAT'S GOOD. THAT STREET GETS A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WALK AROUND THEIR DOGS DAILY ON THAT.

THE ONE BIT THAT I'M NOT TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING HERE AND I'M SORRY, I GOT TO THE MEETING LATE, HAD SOME OTHER THINGS TO DO.

HOW DOES MAKING THE LAND COMMON USE OR [OVERLAPPING] OPEN SPACE VERSUS PARKLAND, IMPROVE THE OVERALL FINANCIALS OF THIS PROJECT? IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THINGS HAVE SLOWED DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

HOW DOES THAT EASE THAT ISSUE?

>> THERE'S SEVERAL ASPECTS TO THAT QUESTION.

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ONE IS, FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT DOES IT DO FROM THE FINANCIAL SIDE? IF WE CHANGE IT FROM PARK TO OPEN SPACE AND CITIZENS GET OUT OF PAYING 50% OF THE COST BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE INCENTIVE BACK TO US, WHICH WOULD BE CHANGED.

THEY ALSO WOULD GET OUT OF THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE INTO THE FUTURE, WHICH IS A CITY COST, AND A TAXPAYER COST.

THEY ALSO GET OUT OF THE STAFF NEEDED TO PROGRAM AND MANAGE THE ACTIVITIES IN THE PARK.

IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPER.

IT DOESN'T REALLY IMPACT DIRECTLY THE FINANCES OTHER THAN BEING ABLE TO GIVE THE ASSURANCES TO OUR TENANTS THAT WE'RE IN CONTROL OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE FOUNTAIN, THE OPERATIONS OF THE KIOSK, BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT CERTAINTY ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROGRAM EVENTS AS WE SEE FIT AND THAT WORK WITH ALL OF THOSE TENANTS VERSUS HAVING TO DO A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND HOPE WE CAN REACH AGREEMENT.

THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WILL TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO NEGOTIATE WHAT RIGHTS EACH GROUP HAS.

IT'S NOT A HUGE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE.

IT'S AN OPERATIONAL INCENTIVE, AS WELL AS WHEN WE COME BACK AND LET'S JUST SAY AS WE LOOK AT THESE TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THIS GARAGE, THAT WHEN WE GO INTO THE SCHEMATIC DESIGNS THAT GET TO, LIKE, A 50% COMPLETE.

WE FIGURE OUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK RIGHT LIKE THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TWIST THIS BUILDING.

WELL, IF THIS IS OPEN SPACE, AND WE'RE STILL ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SAME AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE AND TWIST THE BUILDING JUST IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION, WE CAN DO THAT BY TAKING OUR SITE PLAN INTO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE CITIZENS TO HAVE A REFERENDUM ON THE CHANGES OF THE BOUNDARY OF A PARK.

IT'S A CONVENIENCE, IT'S A PROGRAMMING ISSUES, IT'S NOT REALLY MUCH OF IT EXCEPT FOR SECONDARILY A REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THE DEVELOPER AT ALL.

>> GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> MR. TERRELL, I DO HAVE ONE SMALL CORRECTION.

THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE DOES HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.

IT WAS ENACTED IN 2018.

>> THERE'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL. LET ME REVISE MY RESPONSE.

NO, THEY CANNOT DO A SHORT TERM RENTAL IN THOSE CONDOS.

>> HELLO, MR. TERRELL. I'M DENISE SHIRE.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> I LIVE IN CAROL ON VERY CLOSE DOOR THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> RIGHT HERE?

>> THE NORTHERN ONE. IT'S UP.

>> THIS ONE?

>> YEAH. IT'S A QUESTION OUT OF CURIOSITY.

THEY WERE WORKING ON THAT DURING THE LAST WEEK, AND I NOTICED THAT THEY TOOK THE BARRIERS DOWN.

>> THEY DID WHAT?

>> THEY TOOK THE BARRIERS DOWN BECAUSE THEY WERE WORKING ON IT AND THEY GOT THE ROAD CONNECTED.

BUT WHEN THEY WERE DONE, WHEN I DROVE BY, THEY HAD INSTALLED A STOP SIGN FACING IN.

ARE THEY STILL GOING TO HAVE A GATE FOR RESIDENCE.

>> I PROMISE TO YOU THAT WILL NOT BE.

THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS APPROVED WITH THE CITY DEVELOPER AGREED.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT HAD OCCURRED.

BUT WHEN ALL OF THIS OPENS UP, THERE WILL BE NO DIRECT ACCESS EMERGENCY.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS TO OPEN FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, BUT WHY DO THEY NEED A STOP SIGN WHEN THEY'RE LEAVING? [LAUGHTER]

>> YEAH. I DON'T KNOW.

I WILL SAY THIS THAT SOMETIMES THE SPECIFIC POLICIES OF A CITY IN TERMS OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE ENGINEERING, THEY MAY HAVE MET SOME REQUIREMENT THAT WE PUT A STOP SIGN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I AM CERTAIN THAT WILL NOT BE OPEN THROUGH TRAFFIC EXCEPT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES WHEN THIS IS GOING.

>> WE'LL USE OUR POOL PASSES TO GET THROUGH.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. [LAUGHTER]

>> GOT IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

>> GOOD EVENING.

>> I'M A HOMEOWNER IN CARILLON.

I ALSO HAVE A DEPOSIT ON ONE OF YOUR LOTS THERE.

FROM YOUR PRESENTATION, IT APPEARS THAT PHASE 1, THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION IS ALMOST READY FOR THE BUILDERS TO START, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE'LL PROBABLY CLOSE ON THEIR FIRST RANCH, EACH ONE OF THEM IS TAKING DOWN FIVE LOTS, PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

>> YEAH. GOOD. WHERE I CAN'T MAKE THE CONNECTION IS BETWEEN PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2.

THE REASON IS IS THAT WHAT IT IS APPEALING FOR MYSELF AS AN INVESTOR, THAT THE LOTS BEING CLOSE TO COMMERCIAL STUFF.

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RESTAURANTS, ETC, YOU COULD WALK THERE.

PHASE 2 SEEMS LIKE IT HAS AN AWFUL LOT OF HURDLES FOR YOU TO GO THROUGH, NOT YOU PERSONALLY, BUT YOUR TEAM TO GO THROUGH.

YOU HAVE TO GET A DETENTION POND.

IF YOU DON'T GET THAT, YOU HAVE TO GO SUE THE GUY SO YOU CAN RUN THE LINES ACROSS THIS PROPERTY.

YOU HAVE TO GET AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE WITH DOT TO DO THEIR WORK.

WHEN DO YOU EXPECT PHASE 2 TO BE COMPLETED IS THE FIRST PART OF MY QUESTION, BUT THE REAL HEART OF THE QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO DO PHASE 2 EVEN IF THE CITY COUNCIL REJECTS EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO?

>> I'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION FIRST. THAT'S NO.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION?

>> NO.

>> THAT'S THE HEART OF THE MATTER.

YOU CAN END UP DOING ALL THE RESIDENTIAL STUFF, RELEASING IT IN THE NEXT DAYS OR WEEKS AHEAD.

THE PHASE 2 COULD END UP STAYING THE WAY IT IS TODAY IF YOU CAN'T GET YOUR APPROVALS AND YOU CAN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH ALL THE FOLKS YOU NEED TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH.

THEN THAT REMAINS AS IT IS TODAY, OR YOU HAVE TO SMOOTH IT OVER, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> LET ME I'M GOING TO ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TECHNICAL THAN JUST YES OR NO.

SO TECHNICALLY, THAT'S THE CASE.

REALITY IS THIS DEVELOPERS INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL.

THE CITY HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER.

THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW LITTLE THINGS REGARDING LIBRARY AND SO FORTH THAT WERE SURPRISES.

BUT THIS DEVELOPER IS COMMITTED TO DOING THIS PROJECT.

THE DEVELOPER CONTINUES TO TRY TO MAKE THE PROJECT BETTER AND LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE AS TO HOW IT CAN BE BETTER BOTH FOR THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE SO THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL.

IN TODAY'S ECONOMY, YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING THINGS TO MAKE SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE AND THE SIZE MAGNITUDE AND SCALE SUCCESSFUL.

WE THINK WE'RE DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO COME WITH THE LIBRARY.

BUT IN ORDER TO HELP US MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL, IF THEY CAN GIVE US THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE LIBRARY BUILDING TO A REVENUE GENERATOR, WE'RE OKAY.

WE'D PREFER, EVEN THOUGH THE OTHER BUILDING AS A MIXED USE WOULD GENERATE MORE REVENUE FOR THE DEVELOPER, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY IN THIS SPACE.

IT GIVES IT A DIFFERENT FEEL.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PLANNED FOR YEARS.

BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND CITY COUNCIL HAS TOTAL CONTROL OF WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST.

AS A 20 YEARS ON COUNCIL MAYOR, I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HIT THE GENERAL PUBLIC, AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON FACTS THAT OTHER PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE GOING TO PLEAD OUR CASE, GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY, GIVE EVERY FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO THE CITY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND WORK CLOSELY.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S A CITY COUNCIL DECISION.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER DECISION THEY MAKE, WE CAN STILL PUT THAT TO GOOD USE.

IN TERMS OF THE TIMING THAT WAS THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION.

THERE'S A SCHEDULE.

WE'VE GOT I'VE ALREADY GONE TO THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE I PRESENTED ACTUALLY TO SOUTHLAKE EXECUTIVE FORUM THIS MORNING, PRESENTING TO SPIN TONIGHT.

THE FIRST MEETING OF PLANNING AND ZONING IN AUGUST, WE WILL HIT.

ASSUMING THAT GOES WELL, WE GO TO THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST OF COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST READING.

THEN WE WOULD GO TO THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER FOR THE SECOND READING, AND ASSUMING THAT ALL GOES WELL, WE CAN THEN SPEND ANOTHER APPROXIMATE TWO MILLION DOLLARS ON DETAILED ENGINEERING AND SCHEMATICS THAT WOULD BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

THEN WE CAN START GOING VERTICAL FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR.

THEN IT'S AN 18 MONTH TO TWO-YEAR BUILD.

THAT CONDO BUILDING, IT'S A HUGE BUILDING.

WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE PARKING GARAGE BEHIND THE CONDO RESTAURANT RETAIL, THAT HAS TO BE COORDINATED.

SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T MENTION TOO ALL THE TIME, BUT IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED IN THE PAST, IS IN THIS RESTAURANT, WE WANT TO MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT SO SPECIAL AND ALMOST DISNEY ESQUE.

WE WANT WHAT IS BACK BEHIND THE SCENES AND DUMPSTERS NOT TO BE VISIBLE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING AN UNDERGROUND RAMP SPACE,

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AND THESE RESTAURANTS WILL HAVE ONE FLOOR BELOW WHERE THEY CAN PUT THEIR REFRIGERATION, THEIR STORAGE, BUT THEY WILL HAVE DOORS INTO AN UNDERGROUND PASSAGEWAY THAT GOES FROM HERE INTO THE GARAGE WHERE THEY PICK UP THEIR TRASH, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE DUMPSTERS OUT HERE.

THAT IS A HUGE ADDITIONAL COST, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT ADDS TO THE OVERALL VISIBILITY AND LEVEL OF QUALITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING, I THINK I JUST WENT THROUGH AND ANSWERED FOR YOU THE TIME FRAME.

WE'RE PROBABLY TALKING END OF 26 BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE ALL OF THIS DONE.

FIRST PHASE IS THIS BUILDING, THIS CONDO, THESE TWO RESTAURANTS, AND THE ENTIRE GREEN OPEN SPACE AND THIS PARK.

THIS, BY THE WAY, EVEN IF THEY DO AGREE THAT THIS COULD GO TO OPEN SPACE, THERE'S NOT A PROGRAMMING ISSUE IN HERE, SO THAT WOULD STILL REMAIN CITY PARK.

IN FACT, WE HAD TO DEDICATE THAT WITH THE FIRST PLAT THAT ALLOWS US TO GET COS, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES AND PERMITS TO START BUILDING HERE.

THAT HAD TO BE DEDICATED.

THE REASON FOR US COMING AND DOING THIS NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE OPEN SPACE, IS THAT VERY SHORTLY, WE'LL HAVE TO COME IN TO START CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START PLATTING ALL THIS.

IF YOU PLAT IT AS A PARK, IT IMMEDIATELY DEDICATES IT AS A PARK, AND YOU CAN'T GO BACK LATER AND HAVE THE CITY SAY WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT TO OPEN SPACE.

YOU HAVE TO DO IT UP FRONT BEFORE YOU DEDICATE IT AS A PARK, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN IN ADVANCE OF CONSTRUCTION.

>> THAT WAS HELPFUL, BUT IT'S LED TO ANOTHER QUESTION.

>> YOUR LAST FEW WORDS, YOU DESCRIBED, AGAIN, MY WORDS, TAKING PHASE TWO AND BREAKING IT INTO MANY PHASES, IF YOU WILL, DOING THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PICTURE INITIALLY.

CAN YOU DO ALL THAT WITHOUT HAVING THE ROAD, THE NEW ENTRANCE INTO THE PARK THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT?

>> YOU MEAN THIS?

>> YEAH.

>> WE PLANNED IT, REMEMBER, WE GOT ALL THE APPROVALS AND THE PLANNING BEFORE THAT WAS EVEN A THOUGHT BY THE STATE.

IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING TO GET IN AND EVERYBODY IN AND OUT OF THE ONE ENTRANCE ON THE SERVICE ROAD.

THAT'S WHY WE JUMPED ALL OVER THIS WHEN THIS BECAME AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT ONLY ENHANCES THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S TO NO ONE'S DETRIMENT.

I MEAN, IT IS NOT REQUIRED AT ALL.

>> TO BE DONE BEFORE YOU CAN COMPLETE THE OTHER.

>> NOT AT ALL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I THOUGHT, YES, MA'AM.

>> MY NAME IS TRACY ALVING.

I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.

ON RIVERA, SO I HAVE A COUPLE SETS OF QUESTIONS.

OPEN SPACE VERSUS PARK SPACE, IF IT GOES TO OPEN SPACE, THEN AS A CITIZEN AND ACTUALLY REALLY CLOSE TO IT.

NOW WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO HAVE ANY SAY OVER WHAT HAPPENS THERE IF IT GOES TO OPEN SPACE.

>> NO. ABSOLUTELY. REMEMBER, WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT.

WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THE CITY.

WE CAN'T JUST BECAUSE IT'S OPEN SPACE, GO IN AND DO SOMETHING THAT YOU STILL WON'T HAVE A VOICE ON WITH THE CITY.

WE'RE ASKING FOR, AS YOU LET ME GO BACK TO THAT ONE RIGHT HERE.

WE THINK, AND WE HOPE THAT THE CITIZENS AND YOU BEING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A NOT JUST A DETENTION POND, BUT A RETENTION POND WITH FOUNTAIN AND PAVILION.

YOU CAN UTILIZE THAT.

IT'S STILL GOING TO BE OPEN FOR USE.

JUST LIKE RUSTIN PAVILION IS HERE IN TOWN SQUARE.

THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES, AND WE CAN'T GO IN AND JUST MAKE UNILATERAL CHANGES WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THE CITY, WHICH THEN ALLOWS ALL THE CITIZENS TO COME IN AND VOICE THEIR CONCERNS, THEIR SUPPORT, OR OBJECTIONS.

I THINK, TOO, WE HAVE HISTORICALLY SHOWN THAT WE'RE NOT AS DEVELOPERS, GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE MET WITH SO MANY FOLKS OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS, GOTTEN EVERYBODY'S IMPACT.

THAT'S WHY THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS COME TO THE PLACE IT IS, IS WITH A HUGE AMOUNT OF CITIZEN INPUT, ESPECIALLY THOSE LIVING IN CAROLINE.

>> TO THAT POINT THEN, I THINK WHEN YOU WERE WITHIN CITY COUNCIL LAST, CITY COUNCIL DID NOT LAST CHANGES.

SOME OF THESE LOOK VERY SIMILAR, IF NOT IDENTICAL TO WHAT WAS PROPOSED THEN.

WHAT HAS CHANGED SUCH THAT YOU'RE NOW BRINGING THEM BACK AGAIN AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL SAID, BASICALLY, NO.

>> I THINK THERE WERE SOME BEHIND THE SCENE THINGS THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH THE ST. JUDE ISSUE WITH

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THE FIVE LOTS THAT WE WANTED ADVANCED RELEASE OF SO THAT THE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS COULD START THOSE FIVE LOTS.

THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THAT.

BECAUSE OF THAT SINGLE ISSUE, COUNCIL DECIDED NOT TO PASS ANYTHING, BUT I'VE HAD FURTHER CONVERSATIONS, AND THEY EVEN MADE COMMENTS IN THE MEETING ABOUT, WELL, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE ISSUES WITH THESE THINGS.

BUT THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN LISTENING TO ANY OF THE REST OF IT BECAUSE OF THAT ONE ISSUE.

THAT'S NO LONGER AN ISSUE.

WE HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED EVERYTHING.

WE DON'T NEED ADVANCED APPROVAL FOR FIVE OR SEVEN LOTS FOR THE ST. JUDE DEAL.

THAT WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS BETWEEN THE CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS AND ST. JUDE TO TRY TO GET THAT, AND THEY MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

IT WAS THOUGHT THAT THE DEVELOPER MADE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE APPROVALS, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

I BELIEVE THAT IF NOT ALL, THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING NOT TO PUT WORDS IN ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS.

I DON'T THINK MOST OF THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY LET ME. I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT.

BUT ESPECIALLY IF THE CITIZENS SHOW UP AT THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING AND SAY THEY LIKE ALL THIS.

REMEMBER, CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTS THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

WE AT THAT LAST MEETING, WE THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS GOLDEN.

WE HAD ALREADY MADE IT THROUGH THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE.

WE HAD A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL THROUGH P&C, AND WE DIDN'T BRING CITIZENS TO THAT MEETING.

WE'RE GOING TO BE CALLING CITIZENS TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO GUESS THAT THE CITIZENS ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING.

>> THE LAST QUESTION THAT I HAVE WORKS MORE OR LESS STOPPED FOR THE LAST MONTH.

IT'S LIKE RIGHT OUTSIDE MY OFFICE WINDOW.

HOW MUCH MORE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO GO IN FOR THOSE 79 HOMES? BECAUSE IT LOOK NO WALLS AREN'T DONE, I MEAN, THERE'S WORKS THAT'S NOT DONE, THERE'S STREETS, BUT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

>> ALL THE UTILITIES AND STREETS, THE FINE GRADING FOR THE LOTS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE RETAINING WALL, NOT RETAINING THE SCREAMING WALL IS COMPLETE.

THE SUM OF THE LANDSCAPING IRRIGATION ALONG KIRKWOOD HAS BEEN DONE.

IT HADN'T BEEN DONE ON WHITES CHAPEL YET, BUT THAT'S COMING.

WE GOT STALLED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THIS DRAINAGE ISSUE, AND WE COULDN'T GET A COUPLE OF APPROVALS TO MOVE FORWARD.

WORK, AND I EVEN MENTIONED THAT IN THE FACEBOOK POST BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE HAD ACTUALLY ASKED THAT SAME QUESTION ON FACEBOOK ON THE CAROLINE NEIGHBORHOOD FACEBOOK, AND I RESPONDED TO THAT WITH THIS SAME RESPONSE.

WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THIS LAST LITTLE APPROVE AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK TO FINISHING UP.

>> WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT TO OCCUR? ONCE CITY COUNCIL SAYS, YES, IF THEY SAY, YES.

>> NO. THE REST OF THAT, THE ONLY THING THAT WE NEED ON THIS, WE JUST GOT TODAY, AND A NOTICE FROM THE CITY THAT OUR TEMPORARY DETENTION POND AND SO SOMETHING I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WAS BECAUSE THIS DETENTION POND WASN'T HERE, AND BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET IMMEDIATE ACCESS FOR STORM WATER HERE, THE CITY SAID,, WE CAN'T APPROVE YOUR FINAL PLAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A WAY TO DETAIN STORM WATER.

WE WENT IN AND OVER THE LAST 3-4 WEEKS, WE DESIGNED A TEMPORARY WHERE THESE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE BUILT.

THERE IS A TEMPORARY STORM DETENTION POND THAT WILL BE REMOVED AS SOON AS WE EITHER GET THIS OR THE APPROVAL TO BUILD THIS.

BUT WE RECEIVED APPROVAL TODAY FROM THE CITY ON THAT TEMPORARY DETENTION POND, WHICH NOW WE CAN BUILD THAT, AND EVERYTHING WILL FINISH WITH THE REST OF IT.

>> WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THEN, JOHN THAT THE REST WILL FINISH WITHIN THE.

>> TWO, THREE WEEKS. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MAYBE IN FOR 100%.

I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO COME INTO THIS ROUNDABOUT, THE, YOU DON'T PUT IN YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING WHILE YOU'RE STILL DOING A CONSTRUCTION ALONG IT BECAUSE YOU JUST CRUSH IT, BUT THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED UP ALONG THE WHITES CHAPEL WITH THE LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION, AND THE WALLS WILL BE COMPLETE.

THEY'RE VERY CLOSE NOW.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT LEFT.

>> TO THE POINT ON WHITES CHAPEL, WHEN WILL THE WIDENING BE COMPLETE?

>> THAT ONE I DON'T HAVE THE SCHEDULE.

I KNOW ALMOST EVERYTHING,

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BUT IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE ON WHITES CHAPEL, THAT ONE, I JUST DON'T HAVE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I CAN GET THAT OUT TO YOU, THOUGH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CERTAINLY. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AS ALWAYS.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AND ASK YOU IF WHEN WE GET TO THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN AUGUST, WHICH WILL BE THE SECOND MEETING OF COUNCIL, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO PARTICIPATE.

PLEASE SHOW YOUR SUPPORT.

CAROLINE, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG SEVERAL YEARS.

BUT WE'RE DOWN TO THE FINE POINT.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT, THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S TAKEN PLACE.

BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES OF THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND YOUR SUPPORT GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT AT LEAST ONE MORE TIME TO GET US OVER THE HURDLE TO THE NEXT STEP.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH YOU TONIGHT.

AS ALWAYS ON THE FACEBOOK AND EVERYTHING, I HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER OUT THERE.

PLEASE FEEL FREE.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT ANOTHER QUESTION THAT YOU'VE GOT, I AM ALWAYS AVAILABLE.

GIVE ME A CALL ON MY CELL PHONE.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PARTICIPATING.

>> I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS ITEM, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE MORE ON THE AGENDA.

BUT IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THIS ITEM ONLY, I'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD AND EXIT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BEFORE I HAVE OUR NEXT APPLICANT COME UP THIS EVENING.

I WILL GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE OUR NEXT APPLICANT.

[3. SPIN2024-11 - An applicant is proposing to develop three (3) single-story office buildings on approximately 2.59 acres located at 360 Randol Mill Ave. within SPIN Neighborhood #11. ]

WE HAVE HERBERT GIERS HERE TO PRESENT OUR FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH IS SPIN 2024-11.

AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THREE SINGLE STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS ON APPROXIMATELY 2.59 ACRES LOCATED AT 360 RANDALL MILL AVENUE WITHIN SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 11. ABSOLUTELY.

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS HERBERT GIERS.

I LIVE AT 555 POMOND PARKWAY IN IRVING.

WHAT A GREAT PROJECT THAT WAS IN PRESENTATION.

OURS IS A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER.

WE'RE VERY EARLY ON IN OUR CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND THINKING ABOUT PARTICULARLY THE USE OF THIS 2.5 ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT, SORT OF SANDWICH IN BETWEEN A DAYCARE CENTER AND SOME RETAIL AND THEN RESIDENTIAL ZONING, WHICH IS THE ZONING THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THIS PROPERTY.

WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO AND HAVE HAD, APPARENTLY, OVER THE YEARS, TAKING DIFFERENT LOOKS AT WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THIS PROPERTY WHEN THIS G IT'S AND BEST USE, AFTER WORKING WITH STAFF AND GOING THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS, WE'VE LANDED ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OFFICE, THREE SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS.

WE'RE VERY MUCH AWARE OF, THE CONSIDERATIONS OF RESIDENTS NEARBY WITH REGARDS TO THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.

WE'RE PARED TO PROVIDE WHATEVER SIZE OF SETBACK, WHATEVER SIZE OF SCREENING, AND WHATEVER LEVEL OF LANDSCAPING AND TREES TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK.