Nov 07, 2024 Planning and Zoning Commission

ALL RIGHT.

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[1. Call to Order.]

MY NAME IS DAN KUBIAK, CHAIRMAN OF OUR CITY SOUTHLAKE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

NICE HAVING YOU OUT TONIGHT AT 6:32 P.M..

APOLOGIZE FOR KICKING OFF A COUPLE MINUTES LATE, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD ALL THE COMMENT CARDS ORGANIZED.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND KIND OF OPEN THE MEETING.

I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN OUR MEETING AGENDA THIS EVENING.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TWO OTHER ITEMS UP REALLY QUICKLY AHEAD OF ITEM NUMBER SIX THAT ARE GOING TO GO PRETTY QUICKLY THEY'RE FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

SO TRY TO BE KIND TO THOSE APPLICANTS AND KIND OF GET THEIR CASES DONE.

OTHERWISE WE'LL TAKE THE REST OF THE AGENDA IN ORDER.

AND I'M GUESSING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOU WERE OUT HERE LAST TIME FOR ONE OF THESE CASES, BUT IF YOU WEREN'T JUST A QUICK SUMMATION OF KIND OF HOW THE PROCESS WORKS, WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THE ITEMS. STAFF WILL PRESENT A REPORT.

AND WE'LL HEAR THAT PRESENTATION.

WE'LL ASK ANY QUESTIONS, THE APPLICANT WILL GIVE A PRESENTATION AND WE'LL ASK ANY QUICK QUESTIONS.

AND THEN WE MAY OR MAY NOT DELIBERATE, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AHEAD OF TIME AND THEN HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION WHERE TYPICALLY WHAT WE TRY TO DO ON THOSE AND THIS IS HOW IT WORKS AT BOTH COUNCIL AND AT PLANNING AND ZONING IS EVERYONE JUST THEMSELVES WILL GET THREE MINUTES.

YOU CAN'T KIND OF YIELD TIME AROUND OR IT STARTS TO GET REALLY, REALLY CONFUSING REALLY QUICKLY.

AND JUST BEING COGNIZANT OF ALL THE OTHER CASES WE HAVE, WE HAVE 6 OR 7 ON PLANNING AND ZONING, 6 OR 7 ON SIGN BOARD TONIGHT.

SO IT'S A PRETTY BUSY NIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE FAIR BUT EFFICIENT.

SO EVERYONE WILL GET THREE MINUTES.

YOU CAN COME UP TO THE DAIS OR THE PODIUM SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

THERE'LL BE SOME LITTLE LIGHTS THAT'LL COME ON GREEN AND I THINK YELLOW AFTER TWO MINUTES.

AND THEN STARTS FLASHING AFTER THREE MINUTES, HOPEFULLY I THINK WE'VE GENERALLY FOUND YOU CAN SAY MOST OF WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY WITHIN THREE MINUTES SO EVERYBODY WILL GET THERE.

THEY'RE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT OR TO COMMENT.

NO PRESENTATIONS OR ELSE IT REALLY STARTS GETTING MESSY AS WELL.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO LET EVERYBODY PRESENT.

AND IT REALLY BOGS DOWN, BUT EVERYBODY WILL GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

WE'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF COMMENT CARDS AHEAD OF TIME.

WE'VE RECEIVED SOME PRESENTATIONS AHEAD OF TIME.

WE RECEIVED SOME EMAILS.

SO WE'VE HAD LOTS OF PUBLIC INPUT.

WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DIGEST ALL THAT.

AND I KNOW WE'LL GET SOME MORE TONIGHT.

SO WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'LL EVENTUALLY CLOSE IT ONCE EVERYBODY'S HAD THEIR CHANCE TO SPEAK.

WE'LL DELIBERATE A LITTLE BIT MORE AGAIN, AND THEN WE'LL PASS ALONG A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH COULD BE, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF THINGS, EITHER APPROVE OR DENY OR MAYBE SOMETHING THAT HAS CONTINGENCIES OR EVEN TABLING LIKE WE'VE DONE BEFORE.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF HOW IT WORKS.

WE'LL TRY TO BE EFFICIENT WITH YOUR TIME.

I KNOW EVERYBODY'S OUT TONIGHT AND PROBABLY DOESN'T WANT TOO LATE OF A NIGHT, SO WE'LL TRY TO WORK THROUGH IT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO THAT POINT.

WE'LL LAUNCH INTO THE AGENDA.

AND BY THE WAY, IT IS NOVEMBER 7TH, 2024.

AND I NEED TO WISH MY DAUGHTER A HAPPY BIRTHDAY BECAUSE SHE'S NOT THRILLED THAT I'M UP HERE VOLUNTEERING TO CITY GOVERNMENT TONIGHT.

BUT THAT'S DUTY CALLS SOMETIMES, SO I HAD TO EXPLAIN THAT TO HER.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO INTO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

[3. Administrative Comments. ]

JUST A REMINDER THAT WE'LL HAVE A CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY.

IT WILL BE 6 P.M.

HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY EARLY PROCESS FOR APPLICANTS TO PRESENT IDEAS THAT THEY HAVE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THIS COMMITTEE ON THOSE THINGS.

SO, OKAY. AND 6 P.M.

HERE IN THE NEXT WEDNESDAY. AND, YOU KNOW, AS DENNIS SAID, THAT'S IT'S VERY, VERY FRONT END OF THE PROCESS.

THERE'S NOT EVEN VOTES. IT'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GET INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC SO THE PUBLIC CAN FIND THE APPLICANTS LATER AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS FOR MATERIALS. SO THAT'S KIND OF A HELPFUL PART.

WE'VE ADDED TO THE VERY, VERY FRONT END OF OUR PROCESS.

SO THAT'LL BE NEXT WEDNESDAY.

OKAY. THERE'S NO CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS.

I'VE ALREADY MADE THOSE.

SO WITH THAT, WE CAN GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA.

[5. Consider: Approval of the minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held on October 17, 2024. ]

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THOSE MINUTES BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT, LET'S VOTE, PLEASE.

AND THOSE MINUTES PASS, SIX ZERO.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO SKIP AHEAD JUST REALLY QUICKLY.

SO BEAR WITH ME. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

I GUESS WE'LL GO UP TO PROBABLY WANT TO DO ITEM NUMBER TEN FIRST DENNIS OR ITEM SEVEN? WHICHEVER YOUR PREFERENCE, CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] WE'LL DO ITEM NUMBER TEN FIRST.

[10. ZA24-0061, Preliminary Plat for WillowTree Gardens, on property described as Tract 3C, and portions of Tracts 3D03, and 3D03A, W.W. Hall Survey Abstract 695, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 240 N. Carroll Avenue and portions of 918-1050 E. Southlake Blvd., Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: “TZD” Transition Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #7. PUBLIC HEARING ]

WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS ONE FIRST.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THIS IS, AS YOU SAID, PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE WILLOW TREE GARDENS.

IT'S LOCATED ON PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY ADDRESS AT 240 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE AND INCLUDES PORTIONS OF TRACTS AT 918 AND 1050 EAST

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THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SITE.

IT IS A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE, COMMERCIAL AND LAND USE, AND IT IS TRANSITION DISTRICT ZONING.

SOME VIEWS OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS WAS THE PLAN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, WITH CONDITIONS TIED TO THAT WHICH REQUIRED THEY BRING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL A SITE PLAN TO REVIEW FOR CONFORMANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE ON THAT APPROVAL.

AND THIS IS THAT SITE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE APPROVED TREE CONSERVATION PLAN PRESENTED AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT.

IT IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE APPROVED ZONING AND SITE PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. DENNIS, JUST MAYBE TO CLARIFY, WHEN THEY'RE UNDER CONFORMANCE LIKE THAT, WE HAVE VERY LIMITED, IF ANY LATITUDE UNDER STATE LAW TO REALLY DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT. CORRECT. CORRECT.

OKAY. AND I WILL POINT OUT THIS EVENING WE'VE HANDED OUT AN UPDATED STAFF REPORT AND REVIEW SUMMARY DATED IN TODAY'S DATE.

AND AFTER CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND FIRE MARSHAL THE CONDITIONS IN THE REVIEW THAT ADDRESSED THIS CUL DE SAC THEY HAVE THE OPTION OF THAT EITHER BEING DEDICATED AS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO THE CITY OR PROVIDING THIS CUL DE SAC AND TURNAROUND OUTSIDE OF THE GATED ENTRY AS A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT, DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND UTILITY EASEMENT.

AND THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE OWNER'S ASSOCIATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU DENNIS.

APPRECIATE IT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THIS ITEM THIS EVENING? IF YOU WANT. I MEAN, IF YOU HAVEN'T, YOU CAN.

OKAY. IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.

WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP.

THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

ITEM NUMBER TEN ON OUR AGENDA DOES CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

AND SEEING NO ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AGAIN, THE STATE OF TEXAS KIND OF TIES OUR HANDS ON THESE.

ANYONE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS BEFORE YOU ENTERTAIN A MOTION? ALL RIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TEN ON OUR AGENDA IS ZA24-0061 SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 7, 2024 AND ALSO SUBJECT TO OUR PLAT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER ONE DATED NOVEMBER 7, 2024.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE, PLEASE.

CONGRATULATIONS. AND IT PASSES SIX ZERO.

AND I THINK THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, IF THIS APPEARS ON THE AGENDA, WILL BE ON NOVEMBER 19TH.

NOVEMBER 19TH. CORRECT.

OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW WE'LL GO AHEAD AND KIND OF QUICKLY MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS ZONING CHANGE SITE PLAN FOR THE ELMORE BY MARRIOTT.

[7. Consider: ZA24-0056, Zoning Change and Site Plan for The Elmore by Marriott (currently known as The Southlake Hotel) on property described as Kimball Park Addition and located at 2102 - 2116 E. State Highway 114, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: “S-P2” Generalized Site Plan District. Proposed Zoning: “S-P-2” Generalized Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #4. PUBLIC HEARING This item was administratively tabled at the October 17, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting to the November 7, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting. ]

THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE CURRENTLY APPROVED S-P-2 ZONING THAT'S IN PLACE ON THIS PROPERTY.

THE SPECIFIC CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2104, WHICH IS A FORMER CAMBRIA HOTEL.

AND THIS IS TO CHANGE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE APPROVED UNDER THAT ORIGINAL S-P-2 ZONING.

LAND USE ON THIS IS MIXED USE.

AND AS I MENTIONED, ZONING IS S-P-2 GENERALIZED SITE PLAN DISTRICT.

THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S FUNCTIONALLY NO CHANGES TO THE SITE LAYOUT ITSELF.

UP ON THE LEFT IS WHAT THE BUILDING ORIGINALLY LOOKS LIKE AND HOW IT WAS REPRESENTED IN THE S-P-2 ZONING.

AND THIS IS SOLELY A COLOR CHANGE.

THERE IS TECHNICALLY NO CHANGE IN THE MATERIALS, BUT AT THE TIME THIS WAS APPROVED, THIS WAS TIED TO THE THE ZONING.

THIS PLAN ALSO ADDS A SCREENING ELEMENT HERE AT THE ENTRIES.

AND IT IS ALL PART OF THE REBRANDING AND ASSOCIATION FROM THIS GOING FROM CAMBRIA TO A MARRIOTT PRODUCT, WHICH WILL BE KNOWN AS THE ELMORE HOTEL.

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AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS? EFFECTIVELY JUST KIND OF A DIFFERENT PAINT COLOR, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU DENNIS. IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THIS ITEM? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU REALLY NEED TO.

I'M NOT SURE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I'D LIKE TO ASK. I'D LIKE TO ASK.

COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, AND WE'LL DO A QUICK Q&A.

YEAH. I'D LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THE SCREENING PART.

CHAD PATEL 4908 [INAUDIBLE] PLACE COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS, 76034.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE PURPOSE OF THE SCREENING OR WHAT THE BENEFIT IS GOING TO BE OTHER THAN JUST ESTHETICS? SO BASICALLY, THERE IS A LOT OF INTERIOR RENOVATION HAPPENING.

THE LOBBY IS GETTING UPGRADED AT A VERY HIGH STANDARD BY MARRIOTT, AND THAT CORNER HAS BASICALLY A GOOD SPACE FOR THE GUESTS TO SIT.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF CARS THAT GOES BY BECAUSE IT'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF PRIVACY TO THE GUEST INSIDE, WHICH IS BASICALLY THAT'S THE WHOLE GLASS SIDE VIEW.

OKAY. AND SO IF YOU'RE VIEWING IT FROM THE INSIDE, IT'S GOING TO PRETTY MUCH BE THE SAME AS WE'RE SEEING ON THE EXTERIOR VIEW HERE.

IF I'M IN THE INSIDE THE HOTEL AND IS THE BACKSIDE OF THIS SCREENING GOING TO LOOK THE WAY IT DOES? YES. HERE FROM THE VIEW WE'RE SEEING.

ON THE BACKSIDE. OKAY. AND THERE IS A LANDSCAPE FEATURE BETWEEN THE GLASS AND THE SCREENING WALL.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE COMPLETE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

THANK YOU. AND YOU SAID IT WOULD BE PART OF THE MARRIOTT BRAND.

YES IT WILL BE. SO THAT'LL BE AN UPGRADE FROM THE PREVIOUS FLAG THAT WAS ON IT? YES. OKAY. NO, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

AND I COULD SEE HOW THAT'S PART OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET THE FLAG, I GUESS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

WE ARE PUTTING A EASY SPEAK BAR [INAUDIBLE] INSIDE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF UPGRADES HAPPENING INSIDE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IF WE NEED YOU.

SO. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA DOES CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS SPECIFIC ITEM.

AND SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? ALL RIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA.

ZA24-0056, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 1, 2024 AND ALSO SUBJECT TO OUR SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED OCTOBER 11, 2024.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S VOTE PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT. PASSES SIX ZERO.

CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON NOVEMBER 19TH ASSUMING YOU MAKE THE AGENDA.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[6. Consider: ZA24-0051, Zoning Change and Site Plan and Zoning Change and Development Plan for Forefront Senior Living on property described as Lots 1A, 1B, 2, and 3, Parker’s Corner Addition, and Tract 2A02, J. Allen Survey Abstract No. 18, and located at 300-684 Davis Blvd., City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas. Current Zoning: “RES” Residential Estate District and “SF-1A” Single Family Residential District. Proposed Zoning: “S-P-1” Detailed Site Plan District and “TZD” Transition Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #11. PUBLIC HEARING At the September 19, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting, this item was tabled and the public hearing continued to the October 3, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting. The applicant was going to request to table to the October 17, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting during the October 3, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting; however, that meeting was cancelled. At the October 17, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting, this item was tabled to the November 7, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting at the applicant’s request. ]

WHICH I THINK MOST OF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE FOREFRONT SENIOR LIVING .

I THINK WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER RECUSING HIMSELF.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LET HIM STEP OUT AND THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND LAUNCH INTO THE CASE.

AND THIS EVENING I KNOW WITH STAFF AND I GUESS I'D ASK THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE LITIGATED A LOT OF THIS FOR AN HOUR OR TWO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

YOU KNOW, IDEALLY, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF FOCUS ON THE CHANGES, KIND OF THE NEW INFORMATION THIS EVENING.

I THINK THAT WILL BE THE MOST HELPFUL.

SO JUST THINK ABOUT THAT AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION.

YES, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE AND A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR AN AGE RESTRICTED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, AS WELL AS A ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR A SENIOR LIVING FACILITY.

AND THE LOCATION IS 300 TO 684 DAVIS BOULEVARD.

HERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL VIEW.

THE ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AND SF-1A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

THE FUTURE LAND USE IS MIXED USE AND FLOODPLAIN.

AND THEN WE ALSO DO HAVE SOME SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY.

JUST RUNNING THROUGH THEM REALLY QUICK.

THERE'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THESE PROPERTIES TO BE MASTER PLANNED TOGETHER.

VEHICLE CROSS ACCESS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES NORTH AND SOUTH SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

COMMERCIAL DRIVES DIRECTLY ONTO DAVIS BOULEVARD SHOULD BE LIMITED AND SHARING DRIVE ACCESS BETWEEN PROPERTIES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

NOTING THAT THERE'S MEDIANS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLED ON DAVIS BOULEVARD.

AND SO CONSIDERATION FOR DRIVES SHOULD BE LOCATED IN A MANNER TO ALIGN WITH THOSE MEDIAN OPENINGS.

DESIGN OF PROPERTIES SHOULD BE CONDUCTED IN A MANNER THAT PRESERVES OR EVEN HIGHLIGHTS THE CREEK AREA.

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AND THE SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT IS INTENDED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND USES SUCH AS LOW PROFILE OFFICE HEALTH OR OTHER IDENTIFIED TARGET RETAIL RESTAURANT USES AS IDENTIFIED IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN ARE ENCOURAGED AND BUILDING LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE LOCATED NEAR THE FRONT BUILDING LINE, WITH PARKING OR MOST OF THE PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING.

AS YOU RECALL, THIS IS THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN AND THIS IS THE REVISED DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN AND JUST GOING REALLY QUICKLY.

THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL.

JUST SHOWING THEM SIDE BY SIDE.

WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL AND THE REVISED.

AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE HERE IS THE SOME OF THE COTTAGES FROM THE ORIGINAL TZD DISTRICT HAVE BEEN RELOCATED ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.

THE MAIN BUILDING FOR THE SENIOR BUILDING HAS BEEN KIND OF ELONGATED AND IN REDUCED IN HEIGHT IN PORTIONS OF THAT BUILDING. AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THESE ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY RENDERINGS, SAME AS WHAT WAS PRESENTED BEFORE.

THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN AND THE REVISED SITE PLAN.

JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CHANGES TO THE REVISED SITE PLAN.

THE S-P-1 ACREAGE HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE TZD AND THE S-P-1 WERE REORIENTED.

SO NOW THE S-P-1 IS 10.91 ACRES.

THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AREA HAS GONE TO 139,000FT².

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY 110,821FT².

THE PERCENTAGE OF BUILDING COVERAGE FOR THE S-P-1 IS 29%.

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY 23%.

THE GROSS FLOOR AREA HAS INCREASED TO 492,000FT².

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY 416,971FT².

A PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE AREA HAS DECREASED.

IT'S NOW 68,000FT².

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY 69,338FT².

THE DENSITY HAS INCREASED TO 17.4 UNITS PER ACRE.

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY 17.1.

HOWEVER, THAT'S THE RESULT OF THE SHIFTING OF THE TZD AND THE S-P-1 BOUNDARIES.

THE OVERALL BOUNDARY OF THE TZD AND THE S-P-1.

IT'S STILL THE SAME ACREAGE AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS OVER THE ENTIRE SITE HAS REMAINED THE SAME.

THE AREA OF OPEN SPACE HAS DECREASED IN THE S-P-1 IT'S 237,481FT².

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY 287,705FT².

SO THAT ALSO REDUCES THE PERCENTAGE OF OPEN SPACE.

THAT'S 50%. IT WAS PREVIOUSLY 60%.

IN THE AREA OF IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE IS 237,738FT².

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY 223,119FT².

AND THEN THE PARKING HAS SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT.

THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY SHOWING AT 242 SPACES.

THEY NOW HAVE 243 TOTAL.

THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE SURFACE PARKING FROM 79 TO 83 AND A REDUCTION IN THE PARKING GARAGE FROM 156 TO 153.

SO JUST TRYING TO HIT THAT REALLY QUICK.

WE HAVE THE REVISED LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THE REVISED TREE CONSERVATION PLAN.

THE FENCING PLAN IS GENERALLY THE SAME.

JUST IT'S ALTERED JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THE DIFFERENT LAYOUT OF THE SITE.

AND HERE WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL SENIOR LIVING FACILITY RENDERING.

THIS IS ALONG DAVIS BOULEVARD.

AND THEN THIS IS A REVISED RENDERING.

YOU CAN SEE THE REDUCED HEIGHT FOR THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING HERE.

AND ON THE EAST ELEVATION ON THE TOP, WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL RENDERING.

AND ON THE BOTTOM IS THE REVISION.

AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE REDUCTION IN THE HEIGHT HERE.

AND HERE WE HAVE A RENDERING FOR THAT EAST ELEVATION.

AND THE APPLICANT IS JUST SHOWING THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE 4 TO 1 SLOPE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BUILDING.

WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES.

WE HAVE RECEIVED FIVE WITHIN THE 300FT BOUNDARY AND FIVE WITHIN THE 200FT BOUNDARY.

AND AS THE TIME THAT THIS SLIDE WAS PREPARED, WE HAD ABOUT 35 THAT WERE OUTSIDE THE 300FT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE? I MEAN, EFFECTIVELY, I GUESS IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, AND WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, BUT SOME HEIGHT REDUCTIONS, BUT EFFECTIVELY KIND OF ROUGHLY SAME UNIT COUNT, ROUGHLY SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE.

A LITTLE LESS COVERAGE RATIO BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT DECREASE.

I MEAN, IS THAT FAIR? IS THAT.

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OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? WHY DON'T YOU COME UP AND NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AGAIN IF YOU'D LIKE.

AND AGAIN, WITH THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE KIND OF LIKE LAST TIME.

KEEP IT FOCUSED, KEEP IT MOVING AND KEEP IT PRIMARILY.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S CENTER ON WHAT'S CHANGED? CERTAINLY. MY NAME IS TIM MALLAD, CEO OF FOREFRONT LIVING.

12467 MERRITT DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS 75253.

AND PRESENTING WITH ME TODAY WILL BE JANELLE BERTOLINO, CHIEF STRATEGY OFFICER FOR FOREFRONT LIVING AND SAME ADDRESS 12467.

SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME.

AND I THINK WHAT WE JUST WENT OVER IS A GOOD PORTION OF THIS PRESENTATION.

IF I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO.

OH THERE WE GO. WRONG ONE.

SORRY. JUST A RESTATEMENT WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY DONE.

THIS IS A ZONING REQUEST TO ESTABLISH A CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY FOR RESIDENTS 62 YEARS AND ABOVE.

ORIGINALLY, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WERE ALREADY MENTIONED, SO I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

AGAIN, THIS SLIDE WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED BY STAFF.

IT SHOWS THE SITE AND IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED AT LEAST FOR OR DESIGNATED FOR MIXED USE IN THE SOUTHLAKE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I THINK AN IMPORTANT POINT TO NOTE IS ACREAGE NORTH OF THIS SITE IS ALSO DESIGNATED FOR SAME USE, AND IT'S ON THE MARKET AND IT IS PRICED FOR MIXED DEVELOPMENT.

SO YOU ASKED US TO LISTEN.

THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, YOU ASKED US TO TAKE TIME AND MEET WITH NEIGHBORS, WHICH WE DID.

AND WE HAD A VIRTUAL MEETING ON OCTOBER 3RD WITH NEIGHBORING HOA'S.

WE HAD AN IN-PERSON MEETING ON OCTOBER 7TH, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY OUR FOURTH NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, AND THIS TIME WE HAND-DELIVERED INVITATIONS TO 80 PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 12 MEETINGS GOING BACK TO 2023 BETWEEN STAFF, CORRIDOR COMMITTEE, SPIN AND NEIGHBORHOOD MEMBERS.

AND WE ALSO HAD TWO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED HERE, WITH ABOUT 50 PEOPLE, 25 EACH, WHO HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THE PROJECT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED FROM ONE OF THESE MEETINGS IS A PICTURE OF A SLIDE OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT WAS TAKEN AND THEN POSTED FOR AN ONLINE PETITION.

IT HAD A LOT OF MISINFORMATION, SO PART OF WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL CLEAR UP SOME OF THAT MISINFORMATION.

BUT IT ALSO GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND WE HAD A LOT OF OFF LINE QUESTIONS.

AND MOST OF IT RELATED TO BUILDING HEIGHT AND MASS, AT LEAST CONCERNS WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME UP, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AND THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS OR THE SENIORS IN THAT AREA.

TREES AND TREE MITIGATION AND PARKING WAS AN ISSUE.

SO I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY.

THE CONCERN WAS BUILDINGS ARE VISUALLY IMPACTFUL TO THE NEIGHBORS.

AND THE TERM WAS USED THE BUILDING WAS INTENSE, WHICH WE REALLY TOOK TO BE THE MASS AND THE SENSE OF THE HEIGHT.

SO WE TOOK A RECOMMENDATION ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS SUGGESTED OR ASKED, CAN YOU ACTUALLY ELONGATE THE BUILDING? AND BY DOING THAT, CAN YOU LOWER THE BUILDING? SO WHAT YOU JUST SAW IS A RESULT OF SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, AND WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE HEIGHT IN MORE THAN 70% OF THE BUILDING, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THOSE RENDERINGS.

SO THE RESULT WAS WE EITHER ELIMINATED OR REDUCED VISIBILITY FOR WEST PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN FURTHER REDUCED THE VISUAL IMPACT FROM NEIGHBORS ON THE EAST, AS WELL AS FOLKS GOING UP AND DOWN OR TRAVERSING DAVIS BOULEVARD.

SO I THINK YOU SAW THIS.

I WILL NOT SPEND ANY TOO MUCH TIME HERE OTHER THAN THIS SHOWS YOU WHERE THE ONE ONE STORY WAS REMOVED, AND IT WILL ALSO SHOW YOU WHERE THIS WAS ELONGATED.

SO THE BUILDING'S CORE, THE VERY CENTER OF THE BUILDING, IS THE ONLY PART THAT REMAINS AT FOUR STORIES.

AND THEN BENEATH THAT IS SUBTERRANEAN OR UNDERGROUND PARKING.

SO ALL OTHER AREAS GO FROM ONE STORY TO A MAXIMUM OF THREE STORIES.

YOU SAW THE PERSPECTIVES ALREADY.

AND THIS IS JUST WHAT YOU SAW A MOMENT AGO.

WE TALKED ABOUT SLOPE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GO BRIEFLY INTO SLOPE AGAIN, BUT.

YES. SO WE JUST WANTED TO IDENTIFY THAT THE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE.

THIS IS OUR PREVIOUS SITE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE CLEARLY WE ARE CLEARLY UNDERNEATH THE 4 TO 1 SLOPE FOR THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

THIS IS A SITE SECTION THAT'S CUT THROUGH FROM DAVIS ON THE RIGHT AND STONY BROOK ON THE LEFT.

AND AGAIN, WE ARE ALSO SHOWING THAT WE ARE.

LET ME GET BACK THE CURSOR, 560FT, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS AWAY FROM THAT SUBDIVISION.

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THIS IS JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT SECTION.

THIS IS THE BACKSIDE AGAIN SHOWING PREVIOUS AND CURRENT.

AND AGAIN CLEARLY UNDERNEATH THE SLOPE REQUIREMENTS.

SO THESE ARE THE VIEWS.

I KEEP WANTING TO LOOK UP THERE TO READ THE PRESENTATION.

THESE ARE VIEWS AT LEAST WHAT YOU WOULD SEE OF THE LINE OF SIGHT OR WHERE IT WOULD APPEAR FROM ABOUT 1000FT.

SO THAT YELLOW LINE INDICATES THE BUILDING OUTLINE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT, THE YELLOW LINE AT THE TOP WOULD BE THE VERY TOP OF THAT FOUR STORY AREA.

THERE WAS A CONCERN, A DEEP CONCERN THAT THE BUILDING WOULD BE LOOMING OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I KNOW THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE THE 4 TO 1 SLOPE IN PLACE.

AND THEY WERE CONCERNED THERE WERE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT THEY CAN SEE DIRECTLY FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE NOT THIS ONE.

GO AHEAD. OH, YEAH.

SO AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

AND YOU SAW THOSE AS WELL OF WHAT THE VISUAL IMPACT IS.

I WILL POINT OUT THAT THE ONE AGAIN AT THE LOWER RIGHT IS THE VERY BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

IT SHOWS HOW THE PROPERTY SLOPES DOWN, AND THEN THE SUBTERRANEAN PARKING ENTRANCE AT THE FOUNDATION ELEMENT OF THE BUILDING IS THERE AS WELL. SO THIS WOULD BE THE VIEW THE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE COMING IN IF THEY WERE GOING TO PARK.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT PARKING IN A MINUTE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT TRAFFIC.

THE CONCERN WAS THE COMMUNITY WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE TRAFFIC ON DAVIS BOULEVARD, ESPECIALLY DURING RUSH HOUR.

AND THERE WERE ALSO CONCERNS FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND IT WASN'T SAFE FOR SENIORS THAT FOLLOWED WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT SENIORS BELONGED ON 114.

SO WE OPTED JUST NOT TO ELABORATE ANYMORE ON THAT CONCERN.

SO JANELLE IS GOING TO TALK TO US ABOUT TWO THINGS THE PAPERWORK WE FILLED OUT, AND THEN WE CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STUDY ON AN EXISTING COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE. SO, JANELLE, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT? SO BASED ON THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS DATA, THE IMPACT WAS DEEMED NOMINAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, EVEN WITH THE TRIPS OVER 600 A DAY AND REQUIRED NO FURTHER TRAFFIC STUDIES TO BE COMPLETED.

HOWEVER, AS TIM MENTIONED, WE JUST WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR PROPERTY IN DALLAS TO LOOK AT OUR EXISTING CAMPUS THAT HAS WE DID A TIME WE DID A STUDY OF DURING THE HIGH TRAFFIC HOURS, THE RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC TIME, WHICH SHOWED APPROXIMATELY 301 WAY TRIPS DURING THIS RUSH HOUR TIME.

IT IS TO NOTE THAT THIS CAMPUS IS ALMOST TRIPLE IN THE ANTICIPATED OCCUPANCY AND TRIPLE OF THE PROPOSED FTES THAT THIS PROJECT HAS.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY? AND IT ALSO HAS A LARGE SKILLED NURSING COMPONENT TO IT.

SO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WORKING SHIFTS IS FAR GREATER.

BUT WE WERE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MORNING DURING RUSH HOUR AND IN THE EVENING DURING RUSH HOUR.

SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT EXHIBIT TO SHOW.

OUR RESIDENTS AGAIN, DO NOT TRAVEL DURING THE RUSH HOUR TIME FRAMES.

YOU KNOW, OUR MEAL SERVICE TYPICALLY STARTS AROUND 4:30 TO 5, SO THEY'RE CLEARLY BACK AT THE COMMUNITIES.

WE ALSO, THOUGH, MET WITH TXDOT ON OCTOBER 22ND TO DISCUSS SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.

I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT TXDOT DOES HAVE PLANS TO PUT IN A MEDIAN.

AND IT IS BUDGETED AND IS PLANNED TO BE COMPLETED IN 2027, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY WHEN THIS PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD BE OPENING.

HOWEVER, WE ARE COMMITTED TO AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND PARTICULARLY FOR THIS PROJECT'S RESIDENTS AND JUST TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. WE WILL BE MEETING WITH TXDOT AGAIN.

WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE MEDIAN ALIGNMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULARLY INTERSECTION SIGNALS, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE, AND DECELERATION LANES.

SO WE WILL BE TAKING ON DOING A FORMAL TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY TO WORK WITH TXDOT ON THIS ISSUE.

PERFECT. AND THEN TREES WERE, OF COURSE, A BIG DISCUSSION AND IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE.

A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WILDLIFE AND THE IMPACT AND THE PRESERVATION OF TREES.

THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT TREES ARE LEAFLESS, A LARGE PORTION OF THE YEAR ALLOWING VIEWS OF THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY.

AND WE SAW THE TREE PLAN EARLIER.

WE MUST COMPLY WITH THE SOUTHLAKE TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS, KEEPING THE FLOODPLAIN TREES.

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THERE ARE SEVERAL RED CEDAR AND LIVE OAK TREES, WHICH ARE EVERGREEN AND DO NOT LOSE THEIR LEAVES.

BUT THERE IS A PORTION OF THE TREES THAT ARE DECIDUOUS AND LOSE LEAVES FOR APPROXIMATELY FOUR MONTHS.

SO WE FEEL THAT THERE'S MINIMAL VISUAL IMPACT, AND THAT MITIGATION FOLLOWS CITY STANDARDS.

AND WHEN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT THE ADDITION OF THE COTTAGES ALONG THE FLOODPLAIN AND ADDITIONAL TREES THAT ARE EVERGREEN IN NATURE THAT WILL BE PLACED ALONG THE CREEK.

SO WE'RE WILLING TO ENHANCE WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.

I THINK THIS IS AN INTERESTING SHOT.

THIS IS FROM GOOGLE EARTH. THIS IS FEBRUARY IN FEBRUARY OF 2024, AND IT SHOWS THE TREE COVER.

THE GOOD NEWS, OR THE GREAT PART IS THAT THE GREENBELT OBVIOUSLY STAYS GREEN.

THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES ARE ACTUALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.

SO MOST OF WHAT WE DO ALONG THE GREENBELT WILL BE AN ENHANCEMENT TO WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.

PARKING. I THINK CAR TRAFFIC AT THE PARKING AREAS THAT WERE AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

HEADLIGHTS BEING SEEN THROUGH THE TREES.

NOISE THAT COULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH PARKING OR WITH EMPLOYEES COMING AND GOING WAS BROUGHT UP AND CONSIDERED TO BE A POTENTIAL DISTURBANCE FOR NEIGHBORS. WE ALTERED THE SITE AND PARKING LAYOUTS.

YOU SAW THAT.

SO WE ADDED THE COTTAGE BUFFER ALONG THE CREEK.

SO ABUTTING THAT PROPERTY LINE, IT IS NOW RESIDENTIAL WITH PARKING BEHIND THEM, NOT IN FRONT OF THEM.

AND WE FURTHER RELOCATED OTHER STAFF PARKING.

IF YOU SEE SOME OF THE THE PARKING CHANGES AS FAR AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS AS POSSIBLE.

SO THE RESULT IS PARKING AREAS WILL NOT BE VISIBLE TO NEIGHBORS FROM THE WEST.

I THINK WE SAW THIS ALREADY.

BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE WERE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH A PORTION OF THE EXISTING COTTAGES MOVING TO THAT NEW AREA.

SO WHY SOUTHLAKE, JANELLE.

SO WHY SOUTHLAKE? WELL, AND AGAIN, TO THE EXTENT ANY OF THIS IS REPETITIVE, LET'S NOT GO THROUGH IT AGAIN, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME IN TERMS OF THE MARKET OR I MEAN, PLEASE JUST TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK IF THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER GOING THROUGH SOME OF THIS.

SURE. SO THE SOUTHLAKE POPULATION ALIGNS WELL WITH THE THE FOREFRONT LIVING'S TARGET DEMOGRAPHICS.

IT'S A GREAT STRATEGIC FIT.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH SOUTHLAKE LONG TERM MASTER PLAN, SPECIFICALLY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS A MIXED USE AND ALSO WILL THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND MOBILITY STRATEGIC INITIATIVES.

WE ALSO HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT FOREFRONT LIVING LIKES TO BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

AND SO A STRONG OPPORTUNITY FOR INVOLVEMENT AND CONNECTION.

AND REALLY, QUITE FRANKLY, AS TIM MENTIONED, BECAUSE OF WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND INQUIRIES ABOUT THIS PROJECT FROM SENIORS, AND THEY WANT TO STAY IN SOUTHLAKE AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE WE'VE ALREADY SHOWN THE SLIDES, SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

I BELIEVE, JANELLE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ALIGNMENT WITH THE WELLNESS MASTER PLAN.

WE'VE TALKED AGAIN, WE'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE HERE FOR THE LONG TERM.

AND THEN I THINK THE END JANELLE, IF YOU WANT TO TALK.

YEP. AGAIN, JUST ALIGNS WITH THE SOUTHLAKE COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGIC PLAN MINIMAL TRAFFIC IMPACT VERSUS OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN THIS MIXED USE APPLICATION AND OUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO WORK WITH TXDOT.

IT ASSISTS SOUTHLAKE ABILITY TO MEET THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS INITIATIVES.

AND THEN AGAIN, LASTLY, MEETING THE DESIRES OF SOUTHLAKE SENIORS TO STAY IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND HAVE OPTIONS AND CHOICE FOR SENIOR LIVING RETIREMENT OPTIONS.

CURRENTLY, THERE IS ONLY ONE OTHER SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY THAT OFFERS INDEPENDENT LIVING SERVICES THAT'S WATERMERE AT SOUTHLAKE IT'S CURRENTLY FULL AND HAS A WAITLIST.

SO AGAIN SHOWING A NEED FOR OPTIONS FOR SENIORS.

YEAH. AND OPTIONS THAT ARE NOT ALONG A FRONTAGE ROAD.

THAT CAME UP THROUGH A NUMBER OF THE DISCUSSIONS.

I THINK THAT THAT SENTIMENT GOT OUT AND THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO US.

SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL OF ZONING CASE ZA240051.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I'LL SIT BACK DOWN IF YOU WANT.

NO, NO. HERE, WE MIGHT HAVE JUST A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS.

I'M ASSUMING MAYBE I MEAN, I GUESS FIRST OF ALL, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE TIME AFTER THE MEETING TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, DO SOME OUTREACH, MEETING WITH PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES YOU MADE WHILE YOU MADE THEM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK AND TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE IT. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

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I MEAN, DID YOU CONSIDER ALSO, YOU KNOW, REDUCING EITHER, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF UNITS AND, OR, YOU KNOW, SQUARE FOOTAGE RELATIVE TO JUST THE INTENSITY OF THE USE? YEAH. THE COST OF THE SITE REALLY DICTATES THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE NEEDED.

SO IT WAS AN ECONOMIC QUESTION.

SO WE TRIED TO GET CREATIVE AND AGAIN TRIED VERY HARD.

THE GREEN SPACE WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

SO YOU KNOW THAT INCREASE SOME OF IT WAS RELATED TO JUST ELONGATING THE BUILDING.

BUT THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCES IS, IS WHAT IT WILL TAKE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE SITE.

NO, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT ON YOUR SIDE, BUT IT WAS CONSIDERED.

ON OUR SIDE.

ON OUR SIDE THE YOU KNOW, SELLERS ASK ON LAND IS NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, THE FOCUS.

SO BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW IT HAS TO BE ON YOURS.

SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WOULD BE LIKE THE TIMES THAT GARBAGE IS PICKED UP AND DELIVERIES THAT ARE MADE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LARGE VEHICLES THAT ARE COMING INTO THE AREA.

I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT LIGHTING, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE SHOULD BE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE LIGHTING ORDINANCE THAT DOESN'T LET LIGHT SPILL OVER FROM BEYOND THE PROPERTY. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE AT ALL.

BUT CAN YOU ADDRESS THE LIKE WHEN THE SCHEDULE WOULD BE LIKE FOR GARBAGE TRUCK AND THE TYPE OF DELIVERIES YOU RECEIVE? YEAH, THE GOOD NEWS IS THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE TIMED BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT CAMPUS DON'T WANT TO BE DISTURBED BY THEM.

AND AS FAR AS THE DUMPSTER GOES, RATHER THAN HAVING A STRIP MALL WITH 20 RESIDENCES AND 20 DUMPSTERS, THERE'S TWO LOCATIONS FOR TRASH, AND THOSE CAN BE NEGOTIATED WHEN THEY'RE PICKED UP.

IT'S A PRIVATE SERVICE.

USUALLY HAPPENS LATER IN THE MORNING.

NOT LIKE THE LOWES BY MY HOUSE AT 5:30 EVERY MORNING THAT THEY COME.

AND DELIVERIES ARE THE ONLY MAJOR DELIVERY WOULD BE FOOD ON THAT CAMPUS.

THERE'S NOT A HEALTH CARE COMPONENT, THERE'S AN ASSISTED LIVING COMPONENT.

AND FOOD IS USUALLY A WEEKLY, SOMETIMES TWICE A WEEK DELIVERY.

AND I WOULD NOTE THAT ALL OF THOSE ARE STRATEGICALLY PLACED ON THAT INDUSTRIAL SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

NOW IF WE NEED YOU AGAIN, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CONTINUE FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR KIND OF KEEPING IT FOCUSED ON THE CHANGES.

APPRECIATE IT. TYPICALLY THIS IS WHEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BUT I THOUGHT WITH THIS ONE IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL SINCE WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THIS ONE ONCE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE RESIDENTS COME UP JUST TO KIND OF AT LEAST HEAR SOME INITIAL THOUGHTS FROM OUR SIDE IN TERMS OF KIND OF WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE THINKING BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR.

I GUESS, DOES ANYONE WANT TO JUMP IN FIRST? AND YEAH, I THINK YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS CAME LAST TIME, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE GAVE THEM WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM AT THE CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING. AND AND ALSO CONSISTENT WITH WHAT MANY OF THE RESIDENTS TO THE WEST ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND THE THEME IS AROUND TWO INTENTS.

AND I THINK THE INTENSITY WAS NOT JUST THE HEIGHT BUT ALSO THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

RIGHT. AND SO IN THIS CASE, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION.

IT'S MINUSCULE IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE INTENSE.

RATHER THAN PULLING DOWN THE INTENSITY AND BRINGING DOWN THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

I GET IT FROM THE ECONOMIC STANDPOINT.

I MEAN, I'M IN A SIMILAR BUSINESS.

AND SO THAT JUST MEANS THE LAND VALUE HAS TO BE DIFFERENT, OBVIOUSLY.

OKAY. NO, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT WITH MY COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE THAT I THINK THEY'RE DEFINITELY WERE TRYING.

AND SOMETIMES WE GET APPLICANTS THAT DON'T EVEN REALLY TRY TO ENGAGE, SO DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT JUST WHILE SOME OF THE SHAPING OF THE PROJECTS CHANGED THE OVERALL INTENSITY, I DON'T THINK REALLY HAS IN MY OPINION.

BUT DOES ANYONE WANT TO JUMP IN? WELL, I THINK GOING TO THE DENSITY, THOUGH, USUALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DENSITY AND IN RESIDENCES IT'S MORE OF AN OPTION FOR FAMILY UNITS.

BUT AND MAYBE I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WILL EITHER BE 1 OR 2 PEOPLE IN EACH DWELLING, NOT TWO PEOPLE PLUS CHILDREN OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A NUMBER OF UNITS, I DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL PEOPLE, THERE ARE AS MANY.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC COMPLAINTS, I MEAN, IT'S A SIX LANE FACILITY WITH A TURN LANE.

I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO MEDIAN.

THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF TRAFFIC OR ELSE TXDOT WOULDN'T HAVE MADE THAT PROJECT THAT WAS ONGOING WHEN I WORKED AT TXDOT DOING UTILITY RELOCATIONS ON IT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC HERE REALLY MAKES AN IMPACT IN THE OVERALL SEA OF TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN DAVIS.

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SO I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED THAT MUCH.

I DON'T THINK THAT DENSITY IS THAT BIG OF A DEAL AS FAR AS WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT LIKE THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO TAKING KIDS TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY AND GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 TIMES A DAY.

IT'S I THINK THE TRAFFIC IS NOT GOING TO BE INCREASED TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S THE DAVIS BOULEVARD IS ABLE TO HANDLE THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE.

YEAH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE MAYBE LIVING IN A SMALL AREA, BUT THERE'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SPREAD OUT.

IT'S NOT LIKE EVERYBODY'S GOT A DRIVEWAY AND EVERYBODY'S GOT A BACKYARD AND EVERYBODY'S GOT A SWIMMING POOL.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PUTTING MORE PEOPLE IN A SMALLER AREA, WHICH IS WHAT THE ECONOMICS AND YOU KNOW, WHAT THE LIFESTYLE THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE LIVING THERE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR. SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT PART.

[INAUDIBLE] WE'VE GOT A COMMISSIONER KIND OF ON THE MEND THERE, BUT I GUESS ANY.

I KNOW YOUR VOICE IS A LITTLE.

OKAY. YOU'LL RESERVE YOUR COMMENTS.

OKAY. WELL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I JUST WANT TO AT LEAST GIVE YOU A SENSE OF KIND OF WHERE SOME OF US WERE AND SEE IF THAT WAS HELPFUL.

AND AGAIN, AND I'LL CALL I'VE GOT SOME COMMENT CARDS HERE.

I'LL CALL SOME PEOPLE UP AT FIRST.

AND THEN EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP, THE FIRST THING I'LL DO IS READ THE COMMENT CARDS I GOT THAT WERE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO REGISTER SENTIMENT BUT DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK.

AND AGAIN, THE WAY WE'LL DO IT IS I'LL JUST CALL NAMES UP.

COME ON UP NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL GET THREE MINUTES.

YOU'LL SEE THE KIND OF GREEN, YELLOW, RED LIGHTS THAT'LL HELP WITH THAT.

PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS TO US.

AND WE'LL JUST KIND OF BE KEEPING A TALLY IN OUR HEAD OF FEEDBACK.

SO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HELP TRYING TO KIND OF RUN THIS AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO WITH THAT WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL TRY TO READ OFF.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS PROBABLY THE TOUGHEST JOB PART OF THE JOB THAT I'VE HAD IN HOWEVER MANY YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS IS READING NAMES AND HANDWRITING.

SO I'M GOING TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE TO EVERYONE WHO'S NAME I MISPRONOUNCE.

THE FIRST ONE IS KELLY, I THINK RISSER, WHO IS AT 2608 PARK GROVE LOOP WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION ON THIS ITEM. AND AGAIN, EVEN IF I READ IT OUT, IF I READ IT WRONG OR SOMETHING, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP AT A LATER POINT AND CORRECT ANYTHING I SAY WE'VE GOT JOANNE AND JIM [INAUDIBLE] I BELIEVE WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM.

AND THEN I'VE GOT VERA VARGAS, I BELIEVE, NO ADDRESS STATED.

WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS IN OPPOSITION OF THE ITEM.

SO NOW I'M GOING TO CALL UP THE COMMENT CARDS I GOT.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH HENRY SCHNEIDER 2513, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND KIND OF GET YOUR THREE MINUTES, PLEASE. HI.

GOOD EVENING. HENRY SCHNEIDER, 2513 PARK GROVE LOOP.

I WAS THE ONE THAT SENT THE SLIDES.

THERE'S ABOUT A DOZEN OF THEM.

IF YOU COULD, I'M GOING TO JUMP JUST BECAUSE I HEARD THE COMMENTS.

YES. THE DENSITY IS TO US.

IT'S A VERY, VERY BIG DEAL.

WE LIVE IN A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HALF ACRE LOTS.

DYLAN, THE DEVELOPER, CAN SPEAK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER WITH REGARDS TO JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, THE PUSH BY THIS COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL TO GO TO HALF ACRE LOTS INSTEAD OF SMALLER LOTS.

AND SO WE HAVE VAST INVESTMENTS TO BE LIVING NEXT TO A VERY HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS EXTREMELY TROUBLING.

THE PART OF NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS THERE IF YOU CAN GO TO SLIDE.

I HAVE A PHOTO IN THERE.

WE WERE TOLD IN THE MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT YOU WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO SEE THE POWER LINES ON DAVIS ROAD, AND IT IS SLIDE NUMBER NINE.

I'M ACTUALLY SITTING MY EYE LEVEL IS ACTUALLY AT ONE OF THE FOUNDATION LEVELS OF ONE OF THE LOWEST HOUSES IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

I CAN SEE THE LINES.

THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS IS BECAUSE THE SLIDE AFTER THAT IS NUMBER TEN.

I DID A SIGHTLINE STUDY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THIS SHOWS YOU WHAT WE CAN SEE FROM THESE.

THE DASHED LINES SHOW YOU WITH THE NAKED EYE WHAT YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE.

THE LINES THAT ARE SHOWING, WHICH I DOUBTED THEM, SHOWED THE LITTLE ROOF LINES AND THE YELLOW LINES.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE STANDING AND WHERE THEY'RE FROM, AND I TOLD THEM I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND FOR THEM TO SHOW ME HOW THAT WORKS, I CAN SEE IT WITH MY NAKED EYE.

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IT TELLS ME THAT WHAT I HAVE DRAWN IS ACCURATE.

THEY WILL NOT BE HIDDEN.

THE HOUSES THAT BACK UP TO THE CREEK RIGHT NOW, THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME THAT THEY WON'T SEE A 730 FOOT LONG BUILDING A FOOTBALL FIELD GOAL LINE TO GOAL LINE IS 300FT.

THAT'S TWO AND A HALF FOOTBALL FIELDS.

THEY'VE LOWERED THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, A PORTION OF IT ABOUT TEN FEET.

THIS IS MASSIVE IN STRUCTURE FROM DAVIS BOULEVARD.

I JUST I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE.

I GO BACK SO ANOTHER IS SO IN STAFF AND THE STAFF REPORT ON PAGE SIX IT STATES NEW DEVELOPMENT MUST BE COMPATIBLE WITH AND NOT INTRUSIVE TO EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO READ A COMMENT.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

THAT'S ACTUALLY IN YOUR GOALS AS PART OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE THAT THE RESIDENCES ARE THE CORNERSTONE OF THIS CITY, SOUTHLAKE, IS EXTREMELY UNIQUE.

AND YET WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD A 190 UNIT MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING NEXT TO HALF ACRE LOT DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS EXTREMELY INTRUSIVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. NEXT COMMENT CARD IS SANDRA LEHMAN AT 920 SOUTH PEYTONVILLE IF YOU'RE HERE.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, SONDRA LEHMAN 920 SOUTH PEYTONVILLE.

MY FAMILY MOVED HERE IN SOUTHLAKE IN 2004, AND I'M NOT GOING TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THOSE 35 HOUSES, BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY STORY.

TO SAY I'VE SEEN CHANGE IN SOUTHLAKE IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

I DATE BACK TO WHEN THERE WAS A WALMART IN TOWN AND A WEEKEND SWAP MEET WHERE THE DELTA HOTEL STANDS.

I ALSO AM 60 YEARS OLD NOW.

AND A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER BUILDING OUR HOME IN 2004, WE BOUGHT A SECOND SOUTHLAKE HOUSE FOR MY PARENTS TO LIVE IN SO THEY COULD BE CLOSE TO US, THEIR GRANDKIDS, AND LIVE IN A SAFE COMMUNITY AS THEY AGED.

THEY STAYED IN SOUTHLAKE UNTIL THEY WERE FORCED TO SEEK SENIOR LIVING.

SOMETHING SOME OF US WILL HAVE IN THE FUTURE.

THEY MOVED 20 MINUTES AWAY, WHICH MEANT THEY HAD TO CHANGE THEIR ENTIRE WORLD, THEIR DOCTORS, THE STORES THEY SHOPPED, THEIR NEIGHBORS, THEIR FRIENDS, THEIR CHURCH, AND OF COURSE, US, THEIR FAMILY.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, AND I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND ADDRESSED.

SOME OF THE CONCERNS IS ABOUT HALF A MILE FROM MY HOME, AND IT WOULD PROVIDE AN OPTION FOR MY 82 YEAR OLD MOM.

NOW, HOPEFULLY SHE MAKES IT TO 85 WHEN IT COULD OPEN.

BUT SINCE MY DAD PASSED AWAY, WE'RE STILL DRIVING THAT 20 MINUTES EACH WAY TO SEE AND TO SEE HER, TO CHECK ON HER, TO SPEND LIFE WITH HER.

AND IT'S NOT JUST ME FACING IT.

IT'S MOST CHILDREN OF AGING PARENTS THAT ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE EMOTIONAL, FINANCIAL, AND LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES THIS COMES WITH.

I KNOW WE HAVE OTHER SENIOR LIVING OPTIONS, AND I DO A COMPARISON TO THE RESTAURANTS WE HAVE IN SOUTHLAKE.

EACH FACILITY DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME PRICING, THE SAME LEVELS OF CARE, THE SAME OPTIONS, SAME AMENITIES.

SO ONE BILL DOES NOT YOU KNOW.

SO ONE AND DONE DOESN'T FIT THE BILL WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SENIOR LIVING.

AND ALSO, YES, THERE IS WATERMERE IT HAS A WAITLIST AS I THINK SOMEONE POINTED OUT, BUT FORGIVE THE PUN, BUT IT IS ALSO AN AGING FACILITY.

SO THIS PROPOSAL OFFERS ANOTHER CHOICE FOR OUR SOUTHLAKE SENIORS TO REMAIN LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH DIGNITY AND PURPOSE.

I'VE WATCHED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCE WARS FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS IN SOUTHLAKE.

ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN HERE KNOWS THOSE WELL, AND I WOULD SAY THIS IS NOT TO BE PUT IN THE SAME BOX.

IT DOES NOT ADD STUDENTS TO OVERLOAD THE SCHOOLS.

THE DRIVING HABITS OF SENIORS ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN FAMILIES AND OTHER BUSINESSES.

AND IT'S THE RESIDENTS ARE THE VERY ONES WE WANT TO STAY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY GREET US AT THE CHURCH, THEY MANAGED OUR VOTING POLLS, THEY FILL UP OUR CHARITY SEATS, AND THEY'RE OUR NEIGHBORS.

THE TRAFFIC WILL BE STAFF AND VISITORS MAINLY.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, MY MOM, WHO STILL DRIVES, DOES NOT DRIVE EVERY DAY.

SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO GO GROCERY SHOPPING AS MUCH AS ME.

IF ANY, BECAUSE SHE EATS AT HER FACILITY AND SHE DOESN'T EVEN DRIVE EVERY WEEK.

SO DO WE FORCE OUR SENIORS OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY, OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO SERVE A FEW HOMES? DO YOU MIND WRAPPING UP, MA'AM? I'M SORRY. SO SORRY. I JUST THINK IT'S.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME. NEXT CARD IS, AND I APOLOGIZE.

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LOUISE ARETHA.

I THINK 2649 PARK GROVE LOOP.

SO HOPEFULLY I READ THAT PART RIGHT.

OKAY. WELL, IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE HERE.

NEXT ONE, LEROY MCCALL, 320 BROCK DRIVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. MY NAME IS LEROY MCCALL.

LIVE AT 320 BROCK DRIVE.

I'M APPROXIMATELY 300FT FROM THIS WHERE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND I'D LIKE TO SAY I'M NOT GOING TO BE REPETITIVE IF THINGS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID TONIGHT.

I'M JUST OPPOSED TO IT.

[INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT CARD IS LENONA NICHOLS, I BELIEVE 1017 UH SOMETHING ROAD IN COLLEYVILLE.

SORRY MY HANDWRITING, BUT.

NO, NO. APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THE FOREFRONT SENIOR LIVING.

I AM A COLLEYVILLE RESIDENT.

PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS A SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT.

I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR BOTH CITIES AND THEIR ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS OF THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THEIR CITIZENS OF THEIR COMMUNITIES.

THE REASON I WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT IS I DID ATTEND IN OCTOBER A PRESENTATION BY FOREFRONT.

THE REASON I'M INTERESTED IN THIS IS I DO HELP A LOT OF SENIORS IN THEIR TRANSITION AND LIVING OPPORTUNITIES.

AND AS THE LADY SPOKE BEFORE, SHE SAID A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY, BUT I AGREE WITH, YOU KNOW, HER SENTIMENT ABOUT TAKING CARE OF HER PARENTS.

AS I LOOK ACROSS THE CITY, THE COUNCIL HERE YOU KNOW, FINDING A FACILITY TO LIVE IN MAY NOT BE THE FOREFRONT OF YOUR THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WILL ONE DAY. I GUARANTEE YOU, AND IT'S NOT MY THOUGHT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WILL BE ONE DAY FOR ME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO, IT'S ABOUT THEIR PARENTS HAVING THEIR PARENTS CLOSE TO THEM. SO THAT'S A BIG CONSIDERATION.

WHAT DREW MY ATTENTION TO THE FOREFRONT LIVING WAS IT IS FAITH BASED, WHICH I THOUGHT I HAD NEVER HEARD BEFORE AND REALLY BROUGHT MY ATTENTION TO WHAT A DIFFERENT CONCEPT, WHAT A DIFFERENT BUSINESS PLAN.

THEY ARE NONPROFIT AGAIN, WHEN YOU'VE LOOKED AT WATERMERE AND SOUTHLAKE, YOU'VE LOOKED AT DISCOVERY IN SOUTHLAKE.

NOT SO MUCH WATERMERE NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, BUT THEY ARE PRICEY.

BUT YOU ARE GETTING CARE FOR YOUR LOVED ONES.

SO THE NONPROFIT AND THEN THEIR OVERALL BUSINESS PLAN, THEY HAVE A BUSINESS PLAN TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR RESIDENTS IF THEY OUTLIVE THEIR MONEY, WHICH IS UNHEARD OF.

SO THAT'S A HUGE BENEFIT TO THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY THAT'S COMING INTO YOUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S AN ASSET FOR SENIOR OPTIONS IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THIS BECAUSE AS A PRIOR SOUTHLAKE RESIDENT, I KNOW THAT YOU WILL PROVIDE THE UTMOST OVERSIGHT OF THE BUILD YOUR COMMUNITY, YOUR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE YOU DO STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE.

AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES SOUTHLAKE A PHENOMENAL PLACE.

I WILL SAY, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC MUCH LIKE THE WATERMERE THAT'S IN ON DAVIS.

I LIVE OFF OF DAVIS IN PRECINCT LINE IS THEY HAVE, LIKE, A SERVICE ROAD THAT GOES ALONG THERE.

SO YOU HAVE NOW FIVE GUYS.

YOU HAVE THE MCDONALD'S.

YOU HAVE THE [INAUDIBLE] THING THERE.

SO YOU COULD DO THE SAME THING.

I GO TO H2O TEA, AND IT IS VERY HARD TO GET ACROSS THERE.

IT'S VERY HARD FOR SONIC PEOPLE TO GET ACROSS THERE.

SO MAYBE THAT'S A CONSIDERATION THAT YOU DO BUILD THAT PARALLEL SERVICE ROAD AND PUT A LIGHT TO SLOW DOWN SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC THAT GOES ABOUT 70 ON DAVIS WITH THE THREE LANES, AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SENIORS TO BE PROTECTED, AS WELL AS TO CONTROL THE OVERSIGHT AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT.

AGAIN, SENIORS DON'T GO A LOT OF PLACES AND A LOT OF THEM DON'T DRIVE ANYMORE.

IN CONCLUSION, I DO ENCOURAGE YOU, IF YOU DON'T APPROVE IT TONIGHT, THAT MAYBE YOU ATTEND ONE OF THEIR PRESENTATIONS.

I DID SO THERE WERE MOSTLY SOUTHLAKE PEOPLE THERE, BUT THERE WAS A HUGE INTEREST.

THEY WANT A PLACE TO LIVE.

THEY WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY HERE WITH THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

DO YOU MIND WRAPPING UP? YES, SIR.

AND FOR THE WRAP UP, I WILL JUST SAY IT IS A VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR SENIORS.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT.

NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MARY LEE ALFORD.

1812. I KNOW YOU'LL TELL ME.

YES, I'LL LET YOU SAY IT.

THANK YOU FOR INTRODUCING ME.

MARY LEE ALFORD, 1812 SAINT PHILIP AVENUE.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TO THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE, INCLUDING ALL THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE, WHICH INCLUDES THE SENIOR CITIZENS OF

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I'VE BEEN ON THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR OVER NINE YEARS.

I'VE BEEN THE CHAIR OF THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR, I THINK, AT LEAST SIX YEARS.

SO I'M HERE TRULY ADVOCATING FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF SOUTHLAKE.

THE AGE OF THE PEOPLE IN SOUTHLAKE.

WE HAVE A COMPANY CALLED ESRI THAT'S BEEN HIRED BY THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE TO PROVIDE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION.

AND IT'S A LITTLE OLD.

WE NEED SOME NEW INFORMATION.

BUT THE LAST DATA PROJECTED THAT THE POPULATION OF SOUTHLAKE AGES 55 AND OLDER WILL BE ABOUT 32.7%. AND SO THAT IS THE LARGEST GROUP OF PEOPLE.

AND WE ARE JUST GETTING OLDER.

AND YOU NEED TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE THIS GREAT BIG GIANT POPULATION OF PEOPLE IN SOUTHLAKE THAT ARE GETTING OLDER.

AND AS WE GET OLDER, I MEAN, YOU ALL ARE SO CUTE AND YOUNG.

SO MOST OF YOU.

BUT AS WE GET OLDER, THINGS CHANGE AND MOST OF YOU.

SO THINGS, THINGS CHANGE.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS WE DON'T GET OUT THERE AND DRIVE.

WE AVOID TRAFFIC TIMES.

WE AVOID THE WEEKENDS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CREATE IT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM IN THE SCHOOLS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM FOR TRAFFIC.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WANT TO LIVE HERE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO'VE LIVED HERE FOR DECADES, WHO'VE RAISED THEIR FAMILY HERE, WHO ARE EMPTY NESTERS, WHO ARE DOWNSIZING, BUT THEY LOVE SOUTHLAKE.

THEY LOVE THE QUALITY OF THE LIFESTYLE HERE.

AND THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE OUT OF SOUTHLAKE, BUT THEY REALLY NEED THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG, YOU THINK ABOUT SOME THINGS EVERY 15 MINUTES.

BUT AT OUR AGE, WE THINK ABOUT GROWING OLD AND DYING EVERY 15 MINUTES, AND WE'RE PLANNING FOR OUR FUTURE.

BUT THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO LIVE WITH THE WITH THE CARE AND THE AMENITIES.

AND I LOVE IT THAT IT'S FAITH BASED.

I LOVE THAT IT'S NONPROFIT.

I LOVE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KICK ANYBODY OUT IF THEY RUN OUT OF MONEY.

AND I'VE BEEN TO THE PRESENTATIONS.

THEY'VE BEEN TO THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMISSION AND HAVE PRESENTED.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE REAL POPULATION OF SOUTHLAKE AND ANTICIPATE OUR NEEDS.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE EVEN REDUCING THE NUMBER OF UNITS, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, I'M GOING WE NEED MORE.

WE NEED MORE OF THIS.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT SPEAKER IS WALTER GORHAM.

2929 NORTH KIMBALL.

ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS WILLIAM, 2929 NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

ANYWAY I COULD JUST SAY DITTO TO WHAT SHE JUST SAID, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WOULD SUM IT UP.

AGAIN, I'M A VETERINARIAN.

I'VE BEEN LIVING IN SOUTHLAKE SINCE 1996, BUT I'VE BEEN COMING TO SOUTHLAKE SINCE 1976, WHEN FARM TO MARKET ROAD 1709 WAS THAT I TREATED LARGE ANIMALS OUT HERE.

AND SO THE POINT OF THAT IS, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE GROWTH THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND I'M EXTREMELY PLEASED WITH THAT.

I THINK THROUGH FORESIGHT WITH OUR LEADERS AND THE CARROLL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, YOUR FORESIGHT HAS ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN.

IT WASN'T VERY LONG AGO.

MAYBE SOME OF YOU ALL DON'T EVEN REMEMBER, BUT THERE WAS SOME DISCORD ABOUT EVEN ALLOWING TOWN SQUARE TO BE DEVELOPED.

THERE WAS [LAUGHTER] AND AREN'T WE FORTUNATE THAT THAT GOT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? AND NOW WE HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL NOT ONLY A RETAIL SPACE, BUT A COMMUNITY SPACE THAT WE ALL ENJOY.

SO AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW OR MOST PEOPLE KNOW, THE REASON THAT SOUTHLAKE, I THINK HAS DONE SO WELL IS BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE FORESIGHT AND AGAIN, THE SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS THAT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN THE ENVY OF A LOT OF OTHER TOWNS, NOT JUST IN TEXAS, BUT IN THIS COUNTRY THAT I KNOW OF FROM OTHER PEOPLE.

IT'S IMPERATIVE TO NOTE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT IS MULTI-FAMILY, BUT IT IS OWNERS AND NOT RENTERS.

AND AS THE LADY BEFORE ME SAID, HEY, WE'VE LIVED HERE MANY YEARS, WE'VE COME TO LOVE THE COMMUNITY AND WE WOULD LIKE TO STAY HERE.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.

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YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THAT'S REALLY ALL WE HAVE.

ANYTHING ELSE CAN BE GONE IN AN INSTANT.

WELL, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A LITTLE OF YOUR TIME.

IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO, PLEASE CHECK OUT THE OUTLOOK AT WOODHAVEN, THEIR LAST DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY BUILT.

I THINK YOU WILL BE IMPRESSED NOT ONLY WITH THE QUALITY AND THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL OF THE CONSTRUCTION, ALL THAT STUFF YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT, BUT ALSO THE CARE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE.

AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO STAY IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND I'VE MET SEVERAL OTHER COUPLES THAT FEEL THE SAME WAY.

WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE HERE, AND WE HOPE THAT THROUGH YOUR HARD WORK AND ALL THAT, THAT GETS APPROVED.

I KNOW I PERSONALLY HAVE SERVED ON CISD COMMITTEES AND THIS YOUR WORK IS NOT EASY.

I KNOW IT'S NOT.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT. NEXT SPEAKER MICHAEL QUINTUS.

I THINK APOLOGIES THERE.

115 JELLICO CIRCLE.

I'M SURE YOU'LL CORRECT ME.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU, MISS PHALEN OF COURSE.

KUBIAK AND SPRINGER. YOU GUYS ARE LONG STANDING MEMBERS.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I REALLY JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE ITEMS. I OWN PROPERTY 209 BROCK, 105 BROCK AND 115 JELLICO THAT ARE ALL WITHIN THIS AREA.

AND ACTUALLY ALL VISUAL.

105 BROCK AND 109 BROCK SET DIRECTLY BEHIND THE FACILITY.

AND I LOVE THE RENDITION AND THE VIEW OF THE VISUAL FROM STONY BROOK.

HOWEVER, THAT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 1000FT FROM THE PROPERTY.

WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE FROM THE DEVELOPER IS A VISUAL OF WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT IT ACTUALLY AFFECTS, THAT IT SITS RIGHT BEHIND.

I MYSELF, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HERE.

I MYSELF HAVE NOT YET OPPOSED IT, BUT I WILL BE OPPOSING IT MOVING FORWARD, AS WELL AS 105, 109, AND 209 AS WELL AS 115 JELLICO.

THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE OPPOSITIONS.

AND DENNIS, WHAT IS REQUIRED AFTER WE HAVE I BELIEVE IT'S A 20% VOTE.

IF IT'S OKAY, JUST TAKE THIS OFFLINE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT.

BECAUSE THERE WILL BE EFFORTS FOR THAT.

SO ALL I ASK IS THAT ONE, I FEEL LIKE THIS PROJECT IS NOT RIPE.

THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THIS.

I MYSELF OWN MULTIPLE PROPERTIES IN IT AND I JUST FOUND OUT LAST WEEK.

I ACTUALLY FLEW HOME EARLY FROM CHICAGO TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

SO YOU KNOW, I WAS THERE ON BUSINESS.

BUT ANYWAY, THE ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS ALSO THE TXDOT RENDITION.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT VISUAL OF THE COMPARISON OF THE DALLAS ONE THAT WAS DONE BECAUSE I MYSELF, I LIVE IN SOUTHLAKE, I WORK IN DALLAS.

THERE'S A REASON WHY I LIVE IN SOUTHLAKE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN DALLAS.

THE COMPARISON OF THOSE TWO, THAT'S NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON FOR THE TRAFFIC BY TXDOT STUDY TO USE A COMPARISON OF THAT ONE.

SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S AN APPLES TO APPLES TYPE VIEW.

AND THE LAST THING IS I'D REALLY JUST LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE SOME DISCUSSION.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY SAID THERE WAS MULTIPLE REACH OUTS.

I LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE IF I'M DORMANT OR I DON'T USE SOCIAL MEDIA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I REALLY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL THIS EARLY THIS WEEK. AND THOSE ARE REALLY JUST THE LAST ITEMS I WANTED TO COVER.

I KNOW I'VE GOT 37 SECONDS LEFT.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO. GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS, GUYS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YIELDING TIME BACK. APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT PERSON IS, I GUESS, MIKE BARTON, 1328 REGENCY.

THERE WE GO. OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MIKE BARTON, AND WE LIVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

I'M HERE WITH MY WIFE, DEANNE, BACK IN THE CORNER.

AND JUST WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

SIX YEARS AGO, I RETIRED AND MY WIFE SAID TO ME, WE'RE MOVING TO SOUTHLAKE TO GET CLOSE TO THE GRANDKIDS.

SO HERE WE ARE.

WE'RE IN SOUTHLAKE SIX YEARS.

SIX YEARS AFTER I RETIRED, WE BOUGHT A HOME IN TIMARRON.

AND WE LOVE SOUTHLAKE.

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AND ANYWAY, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE DECIDED WE HAD GONE THROUGH SEEKING A CONTINUING CARE COMMUNITY FOR OUR PARENTS.

AND SO ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE SAID, WE WANT TO DO THIS BEFORE WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE OUR KIDS HAVE TO TAKE US SOMEWHERE. AND SO WE STARTED LOOKING AROUND ALL THROUGH DALLAS FORT WORTH EVERYWHERE, AND TO IDENTIFY A PLACE THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD LIKE AND THAT HAD THE QUALITIES WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

AND WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF PLACES.

WE ENDED UP SEEING A PLACE IN PLANO CALLED THE OUTLOOK, AND IT'S A FOREFRONT LIVING PROJECT IN THE PLANO AREA, AND WE LOVED IT.

BUT WE HAD A DISAGREEMENT AMONG OURSELVES.

MY WIFE DEANNE WAS READY TO GO.

I DID NOT WANT TO LIVE IN PLANO.

I LOVED SOUTHLAKE, AND I WANT TO BE CLOSE TO MY GRANDKIDS.

AND THEY'RE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET IN COLLEYVILLE.

AND MY SON AND DAUGHTER IN LAW.

SO ANYWAY, WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT IT.

WE THINK SOUTHLAKE NEEDS A PLACE JUST LIKE THIS.

IT'S A REALLY HIGH QUALITY PLACE.

WE VISITED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF IT IF IT GETS APPROVED.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT COMMENT CARD RUSS BLACKWELL 1525 HAWTHORNE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RUSS BLACKWELL.

I'M AT 1525 HAWTHORNE LANE IN KELLER, JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF SOUTHLAKE.

I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE WORD PLANNING IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SAID THAT THERE'S IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME, IT SAID THAT THERE'S ONLY TWO THINGS IN LIFE THAT ARE CERTAIN DEATH AND TAXES.

IF WE'RE FORTUNATE, ANOTHER CERTAINTY IN OUR LIFE IS AGING GETTING OLD.

IN A TRULY WELL PLANNED COMMUNITY, FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE ACCOMMODATE ALL STAGES OF LIFE.

AS A VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE, AS YOU'VE HEARD OF, OUR POPULATION APPROACHES THE LATER STAGES OF LIFE.

WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE OUR COMMUNITY OR OF FRIENDS OR FAMILY.

IT'S POTENTIALLY IRONIC THAT THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS WHO OPPOSE THIS MAY ACTUALLY BE THE ONES TO BENEFIT FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT AT THAT STAGE OF LIFE, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

I COMMEND THIS COMMISSION FOR ITS DISCERNING CONSIDERATION OF THIS COMMUNITY NEED, AND I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT THIS COMMITTEE WILL DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AND RECOMMEND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT WITH AN AFFIRMATIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ONE MORE COMMENT CARD AND DON'T WORRY IF YOU DIDN'T FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD.

YOU KNOW, I'LL OPEN IT UP IN A SECOND IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO LAST COMMENT CARD.

GEORGE HOWELL, 625 SOUTHVIEW TRAIL.

I'M GEORGE HOWELL THAT'S WHAT MY MOTHER CALLED ME 625 SOUTHVIEW TRAIL HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND I'VE HAD THAT ADDRESS FOR 31 YEARS.

SO I'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE AND SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES.

IN FACT, WHERE WE'RE STANDING AND SITTING WAS ONCE THE [INAUDIBLE] FARM AND I ATTENDED A CHURCH SERVICE AT THAT VERY PLACE NOT FAR FROM WHERE I'M STANDING RIGHT NOW. SO I'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE AND WE'VE PUT OUR FAMILY'S GONE, AND IT'S JUST ME AND MY WIFE.

WE'RE EMPTY NESTERS.

KIDS K THROUGH 12 HERE.

DRAGONS FROM THE GET GO.

AND WE THOUGHT WE WOULD AFTER THE FAMILY WAS.

IT WAS JUST US.

WE WOULD MOVE ON.

WELL, WE LIKE IT HERE.

WE WANTED TO DOWNSIZE TO GET RID OF THE TREES, WHICH ARE A GOOD NEWS BAD NEWS, SHADE AND LEAVES.

THE YARD AND THE POOL AND THE UPKEEP AND ALL THAT.

BUT WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE SOUTHLAKE OUR FRIENDS ARE HERE.

IT'S THE CONVENIENCE OF THE BUBBLE.

IS IS WELL KNOWN.

EVERYTHING'S RIGHT HERE, SHOPPING.

AND AS WE'VE AGED, OUR DOCTORS ARE HERE.

SEVERAL OF THEM.

AND THAT'S A PLUS.

AND THERE'S A COMMON PROBLEM HERE WITH US EMPTY NESTERS THAT WON'T LEAVE.

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WE JUST DON'T GO.

WE STAY.

AND BY US STAYING, IT ACTUALLY HURTS CARROLL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHERE I SUBBED AFTER I RETIRED.

IN THAT ENROLLMENT IS WHERE THEIR MONEY COMES FROM, AND OUR ENROLLMENT IS GOING DOWN.

AND I'VE HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE THAT THEY MAY BE LOOKING AT CLOSING A SCHOOL HERE IN SOUTHLAKE BECAUSE OF THAT DEMOGRAPHICS.

AND IF WE WERE TO SELL OUR HOUSE AND MOVE INTO FOREFRONT, CHANCES ARE IT'S GOING TO BE A YOUNGER FAMILY WITH KIDS THAT WOULD BUY OUR HOUSE THAT'S ON ONE OF THOSE HALF ACRE LOTS THAT A GENTLEMAN SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER.

AND WITH MORE KIDS MORE ENROLLMENT, MORE MONEY TO CARROLL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND YOU'LL PROBABLY GET MORE PROPERTY TAX OUT OF THOSE GUYS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE 65 AND OLDER EXEMPTION THAT WE DO.

[LAUGHTER] AND I JUST THINK THAT SOUTHLAKE NEEDS MORE INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITIES HERE AVAILABLE.

THE YELLOW LIGHT IS ON, SO I THINK FOREFRONT WOULD BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

I KNOW THERE'S OPPOSITION, AND I'VE BEEN ON OPPOSITION IN THIS VERY ROOM NOT TO THIS PLACE, BUT TO THE APARTMENTS THAT WERE GOING TO BE DOWN BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC CONSIDERATIONS AND TRAFFIC CONSIDERATIONS.

THANK YOU. SIR. SORRY, SIR.

THE LIGHT'S KIND OF GOING OFF, SO IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST BEING CONSIDERATE OF EVERYBODY ELSE.

WE'RE OVER THREE. OH, SURE. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

AND WE DON'T STAY UP LATE.

WE ATTENDED A NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY THAT WAS OVER AT ANOTHER SENIOR PLACE.

IT WAS OVER AT 9 P.M..

[LAUGHTER] APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THAT WILL BE KEPT ON THE RECORD.

WE APPRECIATE IT. OKAY.

NOW I'M OUT OF COMMENT CARDS, BUT IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, THEY CAN OR IF THEY CAN LET OTHER PEOPLE'S COMMENTS KIND OF STAND FOR THEIR SENTIMENT. BUT THE PUBLIC HEARING REMAINS OPEN FOR ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO COME UP HERE.

HELLO, I'M DYLAN HOLMES, I WORK FOR HOLMES BUILDERS ADDRESSED 225 EAST STATE HIGHWAY, SUITE 120, COPPELL, TEXAS.

WE HOLMES BUILDERS DEVELOPED STONY BROOK, WHICH IS JUST WEST OF THE PROPERTY.

INITIALLY, OUR CONCEPT PLAN WAS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN COPPELL, A PATIO VILLA TYPE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD ABOUT 7000 SQUARE FOOT AVERAGE LOT SIZE THAT'S WHAT WE PROPOSED INITIALLY FOR STONY BROOK AND WE WERE REJECTED. WE PROPOSED A 56 LOT SUBDIVISION, AND THAT WAS REJECTED AS WELL FOR BEING TOO HIGH DENSITY. IN 2019, WE WERE APPROVED WITH THE CURRENT 47 LOT, HALF ACRE AVERAGE LOT SIZE, AND WE'VE BEEN BUILDING THERE SINCE 2020.

SOMEONE SENT ME THE SOUTHLAKE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR LAND USE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, AND I THINK WE DID NOT FOLLOW THIS INITIALLY, WHICH IS HOW WE GOT TO WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2019.

I'M GOING TO READ OBJECTIVE 1.1 FROM THE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT GOAL ONE ENCOURAGE APPROPRIATE SCALED NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN THAT COMPLEMENTS EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WHILE CREATING UNIQUE PLACES.

RECOGNIZING THAT QUALITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE AGREE WITH THAT.

FROM EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN, FOREFRONT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE STRUGGLE WITH THE DENSITY AND THE LOCATION OF IT.

WE THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER SERVED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I'VE BEEN SELLING LOTS, HOLMES BUILDER WE STILL HAVE LOTS AVAILABLE IN STONY BROOK.

WE ALSO MANAGE THE HOA, SO WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTING A LOW DENSITY CONCEPT PLAN AND DREAM TO OUR CURRENT HOMEOWNERS AND FUTURE HOMEOWNERS, AND WE THINK THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT COINCIDE WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS OF OUR STONY BROOK, BUT ALSO THE AERIAL THAT SOMEONE SHOWED EARLIER, YOU SAW MAJORITY OF SF 20 HOMES, AND WE ASKED THAT WE CAN FIND A BETTER USE OF THE LAND OFF DAVIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. PUBLIC HEARING REMAINS OPEN FOR ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO COME UP AND MAKE ONE LAST QUICK COMMENT ON THIS ONE.

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HELLO AGAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M KATHY BETHUNE.

MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BUILDING AT 2600 PARK GROVE LOOP, AND SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO COVER HAVE ALREADY BEEN COVERED.

BUT I'LL JUST SAY AGAIN, I'M A SENIOR.

I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS WITH MY PARENTS.

I UNDERSTAND MY HUSBAND'S PARENTS NEEDED SENIOR CARE, SO WE TOTALLY SUPPORT THE PRESENCE OF SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITIES.

OUR ISSUE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT IS IT'S TOO BIG FOR THE LOCATION AND DOESN'T, AS DYLAN JUST MENTIONED, COMPLEMENT THE CHARACTER OF THE FOUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND IT.

I'M THE ONE, ACTUALLY, I THINK RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING AND THEN AGAIN LATER, I ASKED, HOW COULD WE ELIMINATE THE COTTAGES AND HAVE A LOWER PROFILE BUILDING? AND I UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMICS FOR THAT DON'T WORK AT THE PRICE OF THIS LAND.

BUT JUST TO GO ON RECORD, THAT WAS MY THOUGHT, WAS MAYBE WE COULD GET TO, YOU KNOW, ONE STORY ON THE FRONT, TWO STORIES ON THE BACK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I JUST BACK TO THE CONCEPT OF PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.

JUST FROM WHAT YOU HEARD FROM DYLAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE PLAN TO HAVE BIG LOTS RIGHT BEHIND, YOU KNOW, THIS HIGH DENSITY FACILITY.

YOU KNOW, AT THE LAST MEETING, I REMEMBER SEVERAL OF YOU COMMENTED THE PROJECT WAS VERY LARGE IN SCALE.

I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT WERE MADE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HAD.

HOWEVER, IT JUST DOESN'T REPRESENT A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE IN THE SCALE FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND IF APPROVED, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE VISIBLE AS YOU DRIVE DOWN THE HILL INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR A NUMBER OF HOMES AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN TREY'S LINE OF SIGHT STUDY.

I RESPECTFULLY, I THINK FOREFRONT'S A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION AND THEY'VE GOT A GOOD CONCEPT.

MY MOTHER WAS IN A FAITH BASED COMMUNITY AND SO WAS MY FATHER.

IT'S PROVIDING A VALUABLE SERVICE, AND WE'RE NOT OPPOSING WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.

JUST QUESTIONING WHY IT WOULD BE IN THIS LOCATION WHEN YOU'VE GOT FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING RIGHT AROUND IT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PUBLIC HEARING REMAINS OPEN FOR ANY LAST FEW WANTS TO COME FORWARD REAL QUICK AND COMMENT.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

HI. JASON WANG, 721 WINDING RIDGE TRAIL.

I WANT TO CLARIFY, MY OPPOSITION IS NOT BASED ON ANY ANIMOSITY TOWARDS SENIOR CITIZENS OR THE NEED FOR SENIOR LIVING.

I RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF PROVIDING CARE AND ACCOMMODATIONS FOR SENIORS.

HOWEVER, MY CONCERN IS FOCUSED ON THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON DAVIS BOULEVARD, SPECIFICALLY DUE TO TRAFFIC RELATED ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN EXISTING PLANNING DOCUMENTS.

ACCORDING TO THE SOUTHLAKE 2030 MOBILITY MASTER PLAN, TRAFFIC STUDIES INDICATED INCREASING TRAFFIC VOLUMES AT THE INTERSECTION OF DAVIS BOULEVARD AND WEST CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD, WHICH IS JUST 1500FT FROM THE PROPOSED SITE.

ADDITIONALLY, AS MENTIONED, TXDOT HAS FLAGGED THE AREA FOR HIGH CRASH RATES, RISING TRAFFIC VOLUMES, AND GROWING CONGESTION WITH THE PROPOSED MEDIAN PLAN. WHILE THERE ARE PLANS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS MEASURE, SUCH AS THAT THE MEASURES SUCH AS LIMITING LEFT TURNS, WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS THE BROADER PROBLEMS OF CONGESTION, INCREASING TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND OVERALL SAFETY.

WE HAVE A TRAGIC EXAMPLE OF THESE DANGERS OCCURRING LESS THAN ONE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, WHEN A CHILD FROM SOUTHLAKE LOST THEIR LIFE IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT ON THIS STRETCH OF ROAD.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE VEHICLE INVOLVED WAS ACTUALLY TURNING RIGHT, SO A MEDIAN PREVENTING LEFT TURNS WOULD NOT HAVE SOLVED THE ISSUE.

ALSO, IT WAS NOT DURING RUSH HOUR.

IT WAS A WEEKDAY AT 9:30 A.M..

SO MY CONCERN IS THAT FURTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA, WITHOUT COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION TO THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM, COULD EXACERBATE THE RISK TO PUBLIC SAFETY, NOT ONLY TO THE RESIDENTS AND COMMUTERS THAT CURRENTLY GO THROUGH THAT AREA, BUT ALSO TO THE FUTURE RESIDENTS THAT MAY LIVE IN THIS AREA.

AND AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, I WANTED TO ADDRESS I'M THE AUTHOR OF THE CHANGE.ORG PETITION, WHICH CURRENTLY HAS 276 SIGNERS. THE PRESENTATION MENTIONED IN MISINFORMATION, BUT DID NOT CITE WHAT THAT INFORMATION WAS.

I PRIDE MYSELF ON NOT PROPAGATING MISINFORMATION.

SO I WOULD OBJECT TO THAT.

I WOULD CHALLENGE THAT CHARACTERIZATION OF THE COMMENT.

AND ALSO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE SENIOR CITIZENS NOT ADDING TO RUSH HOUR.

MY CONCERN IS SELFISH.

IT IS FOR MY CHILDREN'S SAFETY.

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AND SO I THINK WE UNDERSTAND WHEN THAT TRAFFIC WILL OCCUR.

AND IT'S WHEN SCHOOL BUSSES ARE TAKING OUR KIDS BACK HOME.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PUBLIC HEARING REMAINS OPEN.

IF ANY LAST PEOPLE WANT TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

AND SEEING NO ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DEFINITELY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT TONIGHT.

I KNOW IT TAKES A WHILE, BUT ALL THE COMMENTS ARE HELPFUL TO US TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE NEIGHBOR FEEDBACK AND RESIDENT FEEDBACK.

SO MAYBE WHAT I MIGHT THINK ABOUT DOING IS KIND OF FURTHER DELIBERATING FIRST, AND MAYBE WE CAN JUST KIND OF CALL THE APPLICANT UP REAL QUICK IF THERE'S ANY Q&A THERE.

THERE WAS A LOT TO HEAR THERE.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO KIND OF JUMP IN OR I CAN JUMP IN IF THAT'S HELPFUL? I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT NEW TO SAY.

I GUESS I'D SAY IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S KIND OF TWO KIND OF PREVAILING AREAS OF FOCUS HERE.

ONE IS, YOU KNOW, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, IS THIS NEED OR USE RIGHT ON THIS SITE OR NOT? AND THEN IF SO, WHAT'S THE RIGHT LEVEL OF INTENSITY? I GUESS WHERE I WOULD SHAKE OUT IS I THINK GIVEN THIS SITE, IT'S A TOUGH SITE.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN UP HERE A WHILE, I'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS COME THROUGH ON THIS SITE AND A LOT OF THEM HAVEN'T WORKED.

AND AGAIN, SOMETHING LIKE LAND PRICE IS NOT WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON.

THAT'S NOT OUR AREA.

OUR FOCUS IS WHAT USE AND WHAT INTENSITY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THE USE AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS REASONABLE, BUT I STILL STRUGGLE WITH THE INTENSITY OF THE WAY IT'S PROPOSED TODAY.

AND I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT SEEMS TO BE AN AREA OF CONCERN FOR SOME FOLKS, ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDED LIKE WE KIND OF HAD SOMEWHAT SPLIT AUDIENCE, BUT ADMITTEDLY WITH DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS.

SO I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY WITHOUT DIVING TOO DEEP IN THE WEEDS WHERE I'D SAY MY HEAD IS BUT.

YEAH, I EXPRESS SOME OF MY FEEDBACK ON IT EARLIER.

I'D SAY THE POSITIVES FOR THIS ARE I AGREE THAT THIS IS A LOW TRAFFIC IMPACT USE, RIGHT? I JUST I THINK THE.

ABSOLUTELY IT'S A LOW USE AND I'M REALLY NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT MUCH AT ALL.

I THINK WHAT I REALLY APPRECIATE ABOUT IT IS THE FAITH BASED SPIRIT OF THIS ORGANIZATION.

I MEAN, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES I PERSONALLY WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S TERRIFIC.

BUT I SHARE THE SAME CONCERN.

AND I THINK IT'S NOT SO MUCH IT'S NOT AT ALL A BEING AGAINST SENIOR LIVING.

WE ABSOLUTELY I'M ABSOLUTELY FOR THAT AND THINK WE NEED THAT.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S JUST WE WANT THINGS TO BE DONE RIGHT AND RIGHT AS IT AS IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOCATION AND THE LAND AND WHAT'S AROUND IT.

AND IN MY MIND, I THINK IT'S JUST TOO INTENSE FOR THIS LOCATION.

I MEAN, THREE STORIES IS REALLY THE CHALLENGE FOR ME, ESPECIALLY IN THIS LOCATION THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO ADD TO IT. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO JUMP IN WITH ANY THOUGHTS? OR I GUESS I STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT WITH WE DON'T LIKE THIS, BUT WHAT ELSE WOULD GO THERE? I MEAN, THIS IS DAVIS'S SIX LANE FACILITY.

SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD IS A SIX LANE FACILITY.

IT'S IF IT'S NOT THIS, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING COMMERCIAL THAT'S STILL NOT PROBABLY GOING TO BE SATISFACTORY AS FAR AS THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS OF SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING THAT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE SATISFACTORY. IT'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WITH THE LOCATION.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT ZONED THAT WAY NOW, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE MOST LIKELY USE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING LIKE A LITTLE PARK OR JUST A, YOU KNOW, I JUST THAT'S WHERE I AM.

OKAY. AND DR.

SPRINGER. WELL, AS I HAD SAID BEFORE, IT'S AND YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP TOO IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF FLOODPLAIN THAT'S INVOLVED WITH IT.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT SINGLE FAMILY IN MY MIND TO WORK BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE REST OF THE PROPERTY.

AND I AGREE THAT THE TRAFFIC ON DAVIS BOULEVARD IS NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS, BY THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND IF THEY PUT A MEDIAN IN, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING FOR THAT, FOR THAT WHOLE AREA AROUND THERE.

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I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED AT WATERMERE AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO GET THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR THAT TO MAKE THAT WORK.

AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND WATERMERE KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT A RUSH HOUR AT WATERMERE, AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ANYTHING ANY DIFFERENT HERE. AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THERE'S YOU'VE GOT A TREE LINED BUFFER ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO HELP SEPARATE THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE THERE NOW.

AND WE HAVE STRONG LIGHTING ORDINANCES THAT ARE NOT GOING TO LET LIGHT ENCROACHMENT COME IN.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPOTLIGHT SHINING OVER INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVERYTHING HAS TO STAY ON THE PROPERTY.

WE HAVE THE SAME THING THAT GOES ON WITH OUR SPORTS FIELDS AND, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES AROUND IN THE AREA AROUND THAT.

SO THAT'S NOT A CONCERN OF MINE.

AND THIS IS YOU KNOW, WHILE, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO SAY THAT WE COULD DECREASE THE DENSITY OF IT, OF COURSE.

BUT I THINK OVERALL THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND I GUESS, COMMISSIONER PHALEN, I KNOW YOU'RE A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER, BUT YOU MIGHT BE A SOMEWHAT PIVOTAL VOTE HERE.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE BEFORE WE.

I MEAN, I THINK I BASICALLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GUNTER AND COMMISSIONER SPRINGER.

OKAY. YEAH. WHY DON'T WE CALL THE APPLICANT BACK UP REAL QUICK, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S SOME MIXED THOUGHTS UP HERE TONIGHT, BUT I GUESS IN CONSIDERATION OF THE RESIDENTS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN POTENTIALLY ENTERTAINING ANY, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS TO TABLE.

AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OR NOT, BUT I THINK I'D PREFER WE JUST GO AHEAD AND PROBABLY VOTE.

AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS, NOT JUST FOR YOU, BUT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM, IS ALL THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS BODY, WHATEVER IT IS THAT WOULD GO FORWARD TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY LOOKS AT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS VERY CLOSELY, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, FIVE 0 IN 1 DIRECTION OR ARE THEY SOMEWHAT SPLIT OR, YOU KNOW, THEY ENTERTAIN THE FEEDBACK. THESE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED.

THEY WATCH THEM.

SO IT'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL.

THE COMMENT THE OTHER GENTLEMAN MADE IS CORRECTLY CORRECT.

IF ENOUGH ADJACENT OWNERS DO START TO OPPOSE THE PROJECT, IT CAN TRIP IT INTO WHAT'S CALLED A SUPERMAJORITY SITUATION WITH COUNCIL.

SO JUST I DON'T THINK IT'S THERE NOW, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING TO WATCH.

BUT I THINK, I MEAN, MY, MY THOUGHT IS FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TONIGHT KIND OF ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND JUST SEE HOW IT GOES.

AND THEN EITHER WAY, THAT WOULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STEP AT COUNCIL, WHATEVER THAT RECOMMENDATION MIGHT BE.

AND THEN WE JUST GO FROM THERE.

DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? THAT SOUNDS MORE THAN REASONABLE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

THANK YOU. AND SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MAYBE UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER DELIBERATION WE WANT TO DO.

YEAH. I MEAN, DO YOU WANT TO MAYBE MAKE THE MOTION? BECAUSE ANY WHAT WILL HAPPEN HERE IS WE'VE GOT FIVE COMMISSIONERS UP HERE.

ANY MOTION WE MAKE, WE HAVE TO TRY TO GET A MAJORITY FOR WHETHER THAT'S A MOTION TO DENY OR A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SO WHAT I'M KIND OF POLITELY DOING IS BUYING TIME WHILE MY TENURED COLLEAGUE ON THE RIGHT THAT I DO THINK IS HANDSOME, BY THE WAY, YOU TOOK SOME FLACK IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

HE'S AN AWARD WINNING 21 YEARS UP HERE PUBLIC SERVICE.

BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT BRIEFLY AFTER IT GOES THROUGH IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS AND THEN PROBABLY GO FROM THERE.

SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED THERE? I MEAN, WE REALLY DIDN'T GO ANYTHING.

NOT REALLY.

IT'S KIND OF ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

IT'S NOT REALLY ANY MR. COMMISSIONER, I'LL MAKE A OR MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CASE ZA240051 ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN AND ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOREFRONT LIVING CENTER AS AND REFERENCING THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER THE 1ST, 2024 AS PRESENTED. I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

DO WE HAVE A REVIEW SUMMARY? WE NEED OF THE SITE AS WELL.

I THANK REVIEW SUMMARY. I DIDN'T SEE ONE, BUT MAYBE THERE IS ONE.

FLIP SEVERAL PAGES BACK LIKE THREE PAGES BACK, I THINK MAYBE, AND I CAN MAYBE AMEND IT.

REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER THREE DATED NOVEMBER 1, 2024.

IS THAT? OKAY STAFF'S GIVING ME A NOD, SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD THERE.

YOU'RE GOOD WITH IT. YEAH.

SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT AMENDMENT.

SO CAN YOU JUST RESTATE IT AGAIN.

JUST MAKE SURE WE GOT THE IT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

YES I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CASE ZA240051 AS PRESENTED.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE PLEASE.

OKAY. SO THAT MOTION PASSES 3 TO 2.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE MOTION WILL EITHER WAY, IT WOULD HAVE GONE ON TO COUNCIL.

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BUT IT WAS 3 TO 2.

AND I THINK THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR THE CONTEXT IN TERMS OF WHY PEOPLE WERE SUPPORTIVE OR WHY THEY WERE NOT SUPPORTIVE IN TERMS OF INTENSITY.

SO THAT WOULD GO ON POTENTIALLY ASSUMING THE APPLICANT CAN MAKE IT TO THE NOVEMBER 19TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND THE ONE THING I WOULD DO IS I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TONIGHT TO COME OUT TO THAT MEETING AS WELL.

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WHETHER THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE, NOT SUPPORTIVE, ALL OF THE ABOVE.

I'D ALSO RECOMMEND MAYBE YOU GET WITH THE APPLICANT AS WELL TO THE EXTENT THERE'S MORE FEEDBACK YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM IN TERMS OF MAYBE SHAPING SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE AMENABLE, IT'S STILL NOT TOO LATE TO DO THAT.

THE APPLICANT CAN STILL MAKE CHANGES AND TWEAKS TO THEIR APPLICATION AS IT ADVANCES.

BUT THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

AND PLEASE COME OUT AGAIN FOR COUNCIL AND SHARE ALL YOUR FEEDBACK.

WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS MEETING.

SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO SIT AROUND AND WATCH CITY GOVERNMENT AT IT'S EXCITING PACE BUT IF YOU WANT TO FLEE, WE'LL UNDERSTAND YOU WON'T BE THE FIRST SO.

SO THAT WRAPS UP ITEM NUMBER SIX.

ARE WE GOOD ON ITEM SIX? OKAY, WE'RE GOOD ON ITEM SIX.

WE'RE GETTING A COMMISSIONER BACK.

AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE TRY TO KIND OF TAKE ANY CONVERSATION OUT TO THE FOYER.

AND WE'LL TRY TO POWER THROUGH THE REST OF THIS AGENDA.

[8. Consider: ZA24-0058, Specific Use Permit for a Bar/Tavern for Cherry Blossom Lounge on property described as Lot 1, Block 1, Kimball Oaks Addition, and located at 2211 E. Southlake Blvd, Suite 500. Current Zoning: “S-P-1” Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING (Part 1 of 2)]

SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR TAVERN, THE CHERRY BLOSSOM LOUNGE.

DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR THAT ITEM HERE? I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT FOR THAT ITEM.

DENNIS, LET'S GO ON TO ITEM NINE REAL QUICK, IF THAT'S OKAY.

ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CARROLL CROSSING.

AND WE'LL COME BACK TO EIGHT BEFORE WE ADJOURN THE MEETING AND POTENTIALLY TABLE THAT ITEM.

SO DON'T LET ME FORGET THAT.

AND AND EXCUSE ME.

GALLERY I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TALK, I MEAN, YOU CAN GO OUT IN THE FOYER, BUT OTHERWISE WE'VE GOT TO KIND OF KEEP THE MEETING GOING.

SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I APPRECIATE IT. DENNIS WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND FIRE INTO ITEM NUMBER NINE, CONSIDERATION OF ZONING CHANGE, DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CARROLL CROSSING.

[9. Consider: ZA24-0059, Zoning Change and Development Plan for Carroll Crossing on property described as Tracts 3D and 3C02, W. R. Eaves Survey Abstract No. 500, and located at 1963 W Southlake Blvd., and 200 S. Peytonville Ave. Current Zoning: “S-P-1” Detailed Site Plan District and “O-1” Office District. Requested Zoning: “TZD” Transition Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #10. PUBLIC HEARING ]

THIS REQUEST FOR ZONING CHANGE FROM S-P-1 DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT AND O-1 OFFICE DISTRICT USES TO A TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1963 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND 200 SOUTH PEYTONVILLE AVENUE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SITE.

THE LARGER TRACT AREA IS ZONED S-P-1.

THIS TRACT AT 200 IS CURRENTLY ZONED O-1 OFFICE DISTRICT.

THIS IS A ZONING MAP AND LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THIS PROPERTY IS RETAIL COMMERCIAL ALONG THE SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD FRONTAGE.

MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE AND THEN OFFICE COMMERCIAL ON THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT ABUTS SOUTH PEYTONVILLE AVENUE.

THESE ARE SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE SITE.

FUTURE RETAIL ALONG 1709 CURRENTLY, TREE FARM SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH IDENTIFIED TARGET INDUSTRIES.

ALSO UNDEVELOPED OFFICE PROPERTY ALONG PEYTONVILLE SHOULD ENSURE CROSS ACCESS ENCOURAGE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND ADDITIONALLY PROVIDE INTERNAL ACCESS AND CROSS ACCESS TO PLAYERS CIRCLE BETWEEN PLAYER CIRCLE AND PEYTONVILLE AVENUE ALSO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH MEDIUM DENSITY LAND USE.

CATEGORY OFFICE DEVELOPMENT MAY ALSO BE CONSIDERED AN APPROPRIATE USE.

THE SCALE OF OFFICE DEVELOPMENT IS INTENDED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING AREA AND USES.

DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THIS AREA SHOULD BE APPROVED IN A MANNER THAT'S SENSITIVE TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, IN PARTICULAR SOUTHLAKE WOODS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO NOISE TRAFFIC.

BUILDING HEIGHTS, LIGHTING, AND OTHER RELATED ISSUES THAT MIGHT IMPACT THOSE RESIDENTS.

BUILDING LOCATION ON PROPERTY SHOULD BE LOCATED NEAR THE FRONT BUILDING LINE, IN PARTICULAR SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND PEYTONVILLE AVENUE WHERE THAT IS OCCURRING, AND WITH PARKING OR MAJORITY OF PARKING BEING BEHIND THE BUILDING.

THIS IS THE TRAIL PLAN, WHICH PROVIDES FOR LESS THAN 8 FOOT OR 5 FOOT TRAIL ALONG SOUTH PEYTONVILLE

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THIS IS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR THE PRIMARY PORTION OF THE SITE THAT FRONTS ON WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD. THIS WAS, AS YOU MAY RECALL, APPROVED FOR GREEN ACRES LANDSCAPE NURSERY.

AND THESE ARE ELEVATIONS OF THAT APPROVAL.

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

THIS IS THE FIRST ITERATION OF THAT PLAN THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD WITH THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ALONG WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, CONSISTING OF OFFICE AND A RETAIL RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THRU SERVICE ON THE EASTERN END. IT PROVIDES VEHICULAR ACCESS DIRECTLY TO SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, AS WELL AS COMMON ACCESS CONNECTION THROUGH DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST TO ACCESS PLAYER CIRCLE.

THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH CONSISTS OF 30 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS ROUGHLY IN THE SEVEN OR 8000 SQUARE FOOT RANGE PROVIDED ITS PRIMARY ACCESS TO SOUTH PEYTONVILLE AVENUE WITH THE EMERGENCY ACCESS UTILIZING COMMON ACCESS TO THE WEST OF PLAYER CIRCLE.

SINCE THE PACKET FOR THIS ITEM WENT OUT AND THIS IS A DETAIL OF THE COMMERCIAL ON THAT ORIGINAL PLAN, AND A DETAIL OF THE RESIDENTIAL OF THE FIRST PLAN THAT WAS SENT IN THE PACKET AND TREE PRESERVATION.

THESE ARE RENDERINGS OF THE COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING AND RETAIL RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THRU AND RENDERINGS OF THE RESIDENTIAL.

SINCE PACKET WENT OUT, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN THAT PROVIDED A ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL GATED ACCESS THAT WOULD UTILIZE PLAYER CIRCLE AS A SECOND POINT OF INGRESS EGRESS.

AND A LITTLE MORE DETAIL OF THAT, ALONG WITH THE REVISED FENCING PLAN FOR THE ALTERNATE PLAN.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA THERE.

WE DID, I THINK, RECEIVE ONE LATE THIS AFTERNOON OUTSIDE THE RESPONSE AREA THAT INDICATED THEIR OPPOSITION.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR REFER BACK TO ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE.

DENNIS MAYBE JUST KIND OF GOING BACK IN THE TIME MACHINE HERE REAL QUICK.

I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL APPLICATIONS ON THIS PIECE OF LAND, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD KIND OF POTENTIAL POWER.

MAYBE SOME OF THIS WAS A CORRIDOR, MEANING A POTENTIAL POWER CENTER APPLICATIONS.

THERE WAS A BIG BOX STORE THAT WAS ENVISIONED HERE.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM VARIOUS IN VARIOUS WAYS, WITH VERY LIMITED BUFFERING TO THE NEIGHBORS.

I MEAN, I GUESS MY MEMORY OF THE APPLICATIONS WE'VE SEEN HERE, THIS ONE SEEMS TO BE SO FAR THE ONE THAT'S BEEN MOST CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND ALLOWS A LEVEL OF BUFFERING HERE.

I MEAN, AM I REMEMBERING THAT SOMEWHAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE SEEN A FEW.

NO, YOU'RE REMEMBERING CORRECTLY MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU.

OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THAT.

AND THIS IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH THE FEEDBACK IT GOT AT CORRIDOR COMMITTEE, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.

SO ALBEIT, I GUESS THERE'S A TWEAK ON ACCESS THAT THE APPLICANT MAY TALK TO US ABOUT.

SO I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY IT.

ANYTHING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU DENNIS.

THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? I WOULD POLITELY ASK THE APPLICANT IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN KIND OF MAKE THIS MORE Q&A VERSUS A POWERPOINT AT THIS POINT IN THE

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I WAS GOING TO SAY IF YOU DON'T MIND, I KNOW THERE'S A POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE SITE PLAN.

MAYBE IF YOU COULD MAYBE GO THROUGH THAT AS WELL, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

YEAH. AGAIN, CURTIS YOUNG WITH THE SAGE GROUP, 1130 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

YES. YOU RECALL, I THINK CORRECTLY, THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE, WE BROUGHT THIS THERE WERE A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS, INCLUDING HAVING A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO THE COMMERCIAL, WHICH WE'VE ADDED TO THE PLAN.

THE CONNECTION TO THE WEST OF PLAYER CIRCLE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL WAS ACTUALLY DENNIS'S SUGGESTION.

I HAD PUT THAT IN AS AN EMERGENCY ONLY, BUT THE FEELING THAT THAT WOULD GIVE BETTER ACCESS, PERHAPS IN THE MORNING RUSH HOUR WHEN THERE'S TRAFFIC AT THE SCHOOL AND EVERYTHING, THIS WOULD GIVE.

AND IS THAT CURTIS IS THAT GATED MAYBE? YES, IT'S GATED, BUT IT'S SIMILAR.

YOU MAY RECALL SANDLIN MANOR.

YEAH. WHEN THAT WAS DONE, THE ACCESS WAS ALSO WHITECHAPEL, BUT THERE WAS A STRIP WITH A GATE GOING OUT TO SHADY OAKS DRIVE. THAT WAS RESIDENT ONLY.

SO THE PURPOSE BEING, IF YOU'RE NOT A RESIDENT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO CUT THROUGH THERE.

RIGHT. YOU CAN'T. YEAH.

YOU CAN'T DO IT.

SO YES, THERE WOULD THERE WOULD NOT BE A NON RESIDENT ACCESS.

WHERE IS THE GATE OFF PEYTONVILLE.

YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THE MOUSE HERE? IT'S RIGHT HERE.

THERE'S THE REQUIRED TURNAROUND AND THEN THE GATES WOULD BE HERE.

WE HAD TO PULL THIS BACK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE APPROVED SITE PLAN HERE HAS A ACCESS COMING OUT HERE, AND STAFF WANTED US TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT SHOULD THEY GO FORWARD WITH THEIR APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR THE OFFICE COMPLEX TO THE SOUTH OF US.

SO DO YOU THINK YOU REALLY NEED A GATE RIGHT THERE? IT'S. I MEAN, YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, KIND OF OUR LONG STANDING VIEWPOINT OF GATES HERE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE GENERALLY NOT.

THANK GOD WE DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE TOWN GATED.

WELL, IT'S YOU KNOW, MAYOR WAMBSGANSS DID A GOOD JOB WITH THAT.

I KNOW, BUT SEVERAL GATES HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

AND I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, THESE NEW KIND OF INFILL DEVELOPMENTS, IT'S.

WHAT ARE WE SOLVING BY PUTTING A GATE? LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT SOLVE? IT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL SECURITY TYPE THING.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE A SECURITY ISSUE HERE AT A HIGH LEVEL I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO THE OVERLOOK WILLOW TREE GARDENS, YOU KNOW, THE THROUGH TRAFFIC IS ELIMINATED.

AND I MEAN, I THINK.

I MEAN, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE WESTERN GATE 100%, YOU KNOW, TO FOR THAT VERY REASON.

BUT I GUESS THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH HERE, THAT FROM A FEW YEARS AGO THAT WAS A LITTLE CONTENTIOUS, I GUESS.

DOES THAT HAVE A GATE ON IT? HAWKWOOD? NO, IT DOES NOT.

DOES NOT? NO, IT DOES NOT.

THAT'S FEWER LOTS OF COURSE.

YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WATCHING PROPOSALS ON THIS PROPERTY FOR YEARS NOW COME THROUGH.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN, I WANTED TO DO THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

YEAH. AND I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS SOME OPEN SPACE BETWEEN US AND THE SOUTHLAKE WOODS.

DEFINITELY. DEVELOPMENT.

SO I PURPOSELY PUT THAT IN.

WE'VE HAD THERE'S DRAINAGE COMING THROUGH HERE THAT THEN GOES THROUGH SOUTHLAKE WOODS THAT WAS WHEN WE DID HAWKWOOD, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, A SUBJECT ON THIS.

WE HAVE THE SAME ENGINEER RICH [INAUDIBLE] LOOKING AT THIS.

HE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE DRAINAGE ON THIS.

HE FEELS VERY CONFIDENT THAT WITH THE POND WE'RE SHOWING WELL, IT'S A RETENTION POND, BUT IT'LL HAVE OBVIOUSLY DETENTION CAPABILITIES TO IT THAT THAT WILL THAT WILL WORK WELL.

WE'VE TRIED TO REALLY THINK OF, OF EVERYTHING THE COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONT IS PRIMARILY THE ONE STORY OFFICE GARDEN, OFFICE BUILDINGS.

THERE'S AN EXISTING ENTRY THAT ON THE COMMON PROPERTY LINE NEXT TO THE WALGREENS THERE.

WE'LL BE ADDING ANOTHER ENTRY AND WE.

AND JUST CONFIRMING, I MEAN, I THINK I SEE IT, BUT THERE'S KIND OF CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT ON THE.

YEAH, FROM THE BOTH THE EAST AND THE WEST ON THAT COMMERCIAL.

YEAH. RIGHT HERE. YES.

AND RIGHT HERE.

AND IF YOU GO OVER TO THE EAST SIDE, I GUESS, BY THE IS THAT CVS? RIGHT HERE? NO, SORRY.

IF YOU GO UP. YEAH.

YEAH. THERE'S ALREADY A COMMON DRIVE THAT'S HALF ON OUR PROPERTY THERE.

PERFECT. OKAY. PERFECT, PERFECT.

AND IT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE PORK CHOP DIVIDERS ON IT.

OKAY, GOOD, GOOD. AND THEN HERE YOU CAN SEE WE'VE RECESSED THE CROSS DRIVE HERE TO MEET THE STACKING.

[01:45:02]

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I DON'T WANT TO DOMINATE THE Q&A.

I GUESS. WHO ELSE WANTS TO? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO LAUNCH IN WITH ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE? QUICK QUESTION, CURTIS.

SO ALL OF THE LOTS TO THE SOUTH OF THE ENTRY DRIVE THERE ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THE COMMERCIAL IF THEY GO FORWARD WITH IT? YOU MEAN THESE HERE? NO, NO, NO I'M SORRY. ON YOUR.

YEAH. DOWN RIGHT OFF OF PEYTONVILLE.

OVER TO THE. YEAH.

OH. THESE ARE, THERE'S AN APPROVED SITE PLAN ON THESE TWO LOTS HERE.

THESE ARE ACTUALLY OLD HOMES THAT ARE IN FRONT HERE, RIGHT.

THAT YOU KNOW, BY ALL OUTREACH, WANT TO STAY AND KEEP THEIR HOMES.

I MEAN, CLEARLY ONE OF THE THOUGHTS WAS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE CAN WE INCORPORATE THIS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT? AND NONE OF THOSE PARTIES WERE INTERESTED.

GOTCHA. I GUESS MY ONLY COMMENT ON THE GATE WOULD BE FOR THIS LOCATION, GIVEN THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL IS RIGHT THERE, I WOULD PROBABLY BE INCLINED TO GO WITH A GATE, BECAUSE I COULD JUST IMAGINE ALL THESE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WANTING TO CREATE A MESS THERE.

SO I LIVE FURTHER DOWN ON PEYTONVILLE, AND IT'S A MESS TO GET THROUGH THERE IN THE MORNING, SO THAT'S FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER Q&A HERE FOR MR. CURTIS? WELL, I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU PUTTING IT A NON GATED ONTO PLAYERS CIRCLE, BECAUSE THAT WAY WHEN I GO TO MY CHIROPRACTOR, I CAN ACTUALLY GET OUT ONTO SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD. [LAUGHTER] SO BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I'LL KNOW THE GATE CODE IN A WEEK ANYWAY, BUT IT'S.

FOR WORK REASONS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

THAT'S WHAT HE MEANS. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN WITH MY WORK, WITH MY WORK.

HE HAS A BUSINESS.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

YOU KNOW, I HATE ANYTHING THIS SECTION OF 114, I MEAN, OF.

YEAH, OF SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD ON THAT CURVE IS JUST A NIGHTMARE TO GET IN AND OUT OF.

I HATE SEEING MORE TRAFFIC GO IN THERE.

I'M REALLY GLAD YOU'RE AT LEAST GIVING SOMETHING TO THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, FURTHER UP, CLOSER BY THE LIGHT.

BUT IT'S JUST LIKE GETTING OUT OF THAT PLAYERS CIRCLE IS YOU'RE TAKING YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS, ESPECIALLY AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING.

SO BUT, YOU KNOW, IT FITS THE, I GUESS IF IT FITS THE USE PLAN, IT'S YOU KNOW, ABOUT AS GOOD AS YOU CAN DO THERE. SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT OWNED THE PROPERTY? DID THEY JUST DECIDE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BUILD? WELL, WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY HAD AGREED IN THEIR ZONING TO SOME PRETTY STRICT MATERIALS AND OTHER STANDARDS OR WHATEVER, THAT THEY CAME BACK TO THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE ASKING FOR A LITTLE RELIEF FROM.

AND THEY WEREN'T GETTING GOOD VIBES FROM THAT.

AND ADDITIONALLY, MOST OF THE HOMES AROUND HERE ARE ALREADY BUILT.

IF YOU'RE A NURSERY BUSINESS, YOU CATER NOT ONLY TO PEOPLE RELANDSCAPING, BUT THE NEW HOME BUSINESS AND THAT THEY DECIDED THAT FRISCO WAS PERHAPS A BETTER LOCATION.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT. WE APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING AN EFFICIENT PRESENTATION, CURTIS.

I'M YOUR MAN. YOU KNOW THAT.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER.

LET ME GET THIS RIGHT.

NINE ON OUR AGENDA.

ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CARROLL CROSSING DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WANT TO COME FORWARD? I DO HAVE ONE.

JUST ONE THIS TIME.

ONE COMMENT CARD.

TO MAKE SURE I READ OFF FOR LEE HUANG FROM 407 INDIAN PAINTBRUSH WAY DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM. SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME? YES, SIR. COME ON.

COME ON UP. AND NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE THROUGH A LOT OF CITY GOVERNMENT TONIGHT.

GOOD EVENING. I'M MARK CHRISTIANSEN.

I RESIDE AT 409 INDIAN PAINTBRUSH WAY.

LEE HUANG IS MY NEIGHBOR.

I DIDN'T REALIZE SHE WAS MAKING ANY COMMENT ABOUT THIS.

I JUST GOT THE CARD IN THE MAIL ABOUT A WEEK AGO NOTIFYING ME OF THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

AND SO IT'S NEW TO ME.

THIS IS I WAS AT THE MEETINGS BEFORE.

THERE WERE TWO SEPARATE TIMES, ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.

AND ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO WHEN THEY HAD SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS QUITE SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER, BUT NOT SIMILAR TO THIS.

AND I GUESS I'VE GOT MORE QUESTIONS IF MAYBE I CAN GET A COUPLE OF ANSWERS.

SO ARE THE YELLOW LOTS ARE THOSE GOING TO BE HOME LOTS? MAYBE IF YOU CAN JUST GO THROUGH YOUR OKAY OKAY, THAT'S ONE QUESTION.

AND THEN THE RETENTION POND.

[01:50:01]

THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND MY PROPERTY.

I'M CONCERNED POSSIBLY ABOUT FLOODING THAT FLOOD MIGHT THE WATER MIGHT RAIN.

RIGHT NOW THE WATER COMES FROM THE MORE FROM THE EAST.

BUT I'M WONDERING IF THAT MIGHT COME FROM THE NORTH BECAUSE OF THAT POND.

IF IT GETS FULL AND COMES RIGHT BACK INTO MY BACKYARD.

AND THEN THE THIRD QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE'S A FENCE THERE.

WE NEGOTIATED A FENCE DURING THE TWO PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS THAT, AGAIN, DIDN'T GO THROUGH, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A FENCE THERE THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, HELP AGAIN WITH THE NOISE, THE VIEW.

WE HAVE A SECOND STORY HOME.

WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK RIGHT OVER THAT PROPERTY NOW.

AND ITS TREES AND ITS VERY PRETTY.

BUT THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'LL RETAIN THAT VIEW.

SO THOSE ARE MY, I GUESS MY THREE MAIN QUESTIONS.

WE WILL GET YOU ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS, SIR.

NO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COME FORWARD.

OTHERWISE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I WILL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP AND ADDRESS THOSE THREE ITEMS. I'D ALSO ASK THAT.

YEAH. AND HE'S BEEN AROUND, SIR.

SO HE'LL DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO YOU, BUT.

YEAH. PLEASE, CURTIS.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I GUESS SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORS AND YOU HEARD THE OTHER COMMENT CARD, I THINK IT WAS 407.

JUST PLEASE KIND OF DO SOME OUTREACH WITH THEM IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATION.

YES. BUT I THINK IT WAS JUST MAYBE DESCRIBE THE HOMES PRICES SIZE, THAT KIND OF THING.

YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, THE DRAINAGE.

ON OUTREACH, I'VE OUTREACHED MULTIPLE TIMES TO THE NEIGHBORS TO THE HOA, THE WHATEVER WE.

KEEP GOING. AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

I HAVE BEEN DYING TO TALK TO OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AND I JUST GAVE THEM MY CARD.

PERFECT. I TALKED TO HIM AND DO ANSWER ALL HIS QUESTIONS.

THE RETENTION UPON, OF COURSE, IS DESIGNED AND BUILT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T FLOODING DOWNSTREAM. IT WILL HAVE THE STORAGE CAPACITY IN, YOU KNOW, THE 100 YEAR STORM TO CONTAIN THE RUNOFF THAT GOES THROUGH THERE. THAT'S IN EXCESS OF WHAT ALREADY GOES THROUGH THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY A DRAINAGE CHANNEL THROUGH THERE.

SO IT HAS CAPACITY TO TAKE A FLOW.

IT'S JUST YOU DON'T WANT THAT FLOW TO EXCEED THE LIMITS OF THE FACILITY THAT'S THERE, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO GET WITH THEM.

OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AND ANYONE ELSE GOING THROUGH THERE TO EXPLAIN THAT IN DETAIL, RICH [INAUDIBLE] COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

BUT HE'S THE ENGINEER AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT ON IT.

I'D ALSO, YOU KNOW I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE FENCE THE FENCE ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE LOOKS LIKE A EIGHT FOOT WOOD FENCE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.

IT'S BEEN STAINED AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND SO WE PROPOSED TO RETAIN THAT FENCE BECAUSE IT WAS NO DOUBT PUT UP BY THOSE HOMEOWNERS.

BUT IF THERE'S IF, THERE'S IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE OR REPLACEMENT OR WHATEVER, WE'RE ENTIRELY OPEN TO THAT.

BUT AND AGAIN, I WILL TALK TO THE GENTLEMAN AND WE'LL ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS.

OKAY. AND JUST SO THE GENTLEMAN KNOWS, I GUESS CITY STAFF CAN HELP ON SOME OF THE DRAINAGE ITEMS AS WELL, BECAUSE STAFF WILL IT'LL BE REVIEWED, WE WILL REVIEW ALL THOSE COMMENTS, MAKE SURE THEY'RE UP TO CITY ORDINANCE IN ADDITION TO THE WORK THE CONSULTANT DOES.

YEAH. AND HIS OTHER INITIAL QUESTION IS YES, ALL THE YELLOW ORANGE AREA IS RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

AND ROUGHLY KIND OF ROUGH SIZES, PRICES.

WELL, WE BELIEVE THESE WILL BE PROBABLY AN AVERAGE OF $2.5 MILLION.

THAT'S, THAT'S YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE 3500 TO 4500FT².

AND WITH THE, YOU KNOW, COST OF OF BUILDING HIGH QUALITY HOMES HERE THESE ARE GOING TO BE CUSTOM BUILDERS.

THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER IS OUT OF DALLAS DOES VERY NICE CUSTOM HOMES THERE.

BUT THERE'S ALSO PROBABLY GOING TO BE AT LEAST TWO OF THE LOCAL LUXURY HOME BUILDERS THAT YOU, YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL. SO IT WILL BE A MIX OF THINGS AND THESE THESE, YOU KNOW, I THINK AVERAGE VALUE OF THESE HOMES WILL PROBABLY BE ABOUT $2.5 MILLION.

OKAY. ANY OTHER I GUESS.

I THINK WE KIND OF ADDRESSED MOST OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT AGAIN, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU GIVE THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

AND I WILL. FOLLOW UP ANSWER ANY OF THOSE OTHER QUESTIONS.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK UP.

I GUESS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS YOU WANT TO DELIBERATE KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE WE DO A MOTION? YEAH I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE'RE READY TO.

YEAH SURE OR COMMENTS.

YEAH. NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

[01:55:05]

I AM NOT LOVING THE GATE ASPECT ON THE PART THAT ABUTS PEYTONVILLE.

THERE'S A LONG THROAT THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW IT'S PEOPLE PASSING BY.

OH, WHAT'S HERE AND KIND OF GOING IN BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY DELIBERATE TO GET BACK IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF A DRIVE BACK.

SO I COULD SEE A GATE MORE ON THE OTHER SIDE, MAYBE ALMOST, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS AN ALTERNATE AND PLAN, AND MAYBE THE ORIGINAL ONE DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

BUT I CAN SEE FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT LIKE WHAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AT THE FRONT, YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATE WAY OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYBE THAT ONE.

I COULD SEE A GATE A LITTLE BIT MORE, JUST SO IT PREVENTS IT BEING A CUT OVER FOR FOLKS, FOR ALL THOSE HEATHEN HIGH SCHOOLERS THAT MAYBE WANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH, OF WHICH MY DAUGHTER'S ONE.

BUT NOT REALLY A HEATHEN, BUT AT ANY RATE.

SO I JUST THAT'S JUST MY COMMENTS.

I LIKE IT, BUT JUST NOT REALLY LOVING THE GATE ASPECT OF IT.

OKAY, ANY OTHER YOU KNOW, THE COMMERCIAL UP ON THE FRONT ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

GOOD TRANSITION PIECE.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF WE'VE HAD A HANDFUL OF HIGH PROFILE RESIDENTIAL DEALS COME THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL.

THAT SEEMS LIKE THE COMMUNITY HAS JUST GIVEN US ROBUST NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY.

AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I THINK TWO OF THEM IN PARTICULAR IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

AND SO, LIKE WE SAID ON THE ON THE WILLOW TREE DEAL UP NEAR DEL FRISCO'S, I MEAN, I JUST WANT THE RESIDENTIAL TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S AROUND IT.

AND SOUTH OF THAT, THOSE ARE ALL HALF ACRE LOTS, AND WE'RE GOING DOWN TO 7000 ACRE OR 7000FT², 10,000FT² TYPE LOTS HERE.

THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF HEARTBURN HERE.

AGAIN, I'M NOT AGAINST THE RESIDENTIAL, AND I LIKE THE COMMERCIAL UP ON THE UP ON THE SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

BUT I THINK THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE, LIKE, THE RESI ALL AROUND IT.

ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THIS? THOUGHTS? I'M KIND OF TORN ON THE GATE BECAUSE.

YEAH, GENERALLY, I'M VERY GLAD THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY GREW UP WITHOUT A BUNCH OF GATES IN IT OR, I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE GATED EVERY STREET HERE UNDER THE SECURITY, WHATEVER.

YOU KNOW, IT'S DEVELOPERS TRYING TO MAKE EXTRA MONEY.

JUST CALL IT WHAT IT IS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY NEEDED, BUT I GUESS IN THIS CASE, RELATIVE TO WHAT THE VICE CHAIR SAID, I MEAN, I COULD MAYBE BE OPEN TO IT, BUT I JUST HATE, HATE THE LOOK OF IT HERE.

SO I CAN MAYBE GET THERE ON IT, BUT I AND I HEAR THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE I GUESS IT'S KIND OF IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL ON THREE SIDES, WHAT'S THE RIGHT LOT SIZE? YOU KNOW, I'M PROBABLY GOOD WITH IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND OTHERS MIGHT NOT.

SO ESPECIALLY IN A DISTRICT THAT NEEDS TO.

AND THESE HOMES SOUND LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRETTY NICE.

BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.

AND THE KIDS CAN ALL WALK TO SCHOOL.

FAIR POINT. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE BEFORE WE POTENTIALLY ENTERTAIN A MOTION? ALL RIGHT. WE WANT TO TRY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION HERE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER NINE ON OUR AGENDA.

ZA24-0059, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024.

ALSO SUBJECT TO THE REVISED SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024 AND NOTING THE COMMENTS ON THE GATE AND MAYBE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO KIND OF BE OPEN TO HAVING AN OPTION WITH NO GATE GOING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

OKAY. YEP. OKAY.

ARE YOU PROVIDING MOTION SPECIFIC TO ONE OPTION OR THE OTHER? THE ORIGINAL OR THE ALTERNATE? WITH THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN BEING NO ACCESS TO THE WEST, IS THAT CORRECT? EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY OR THE ALTERNATE PLAN? I THINK IF I HEARD RIGHT, THERE WAS A PREFERENCE FOR THE ONE THAT HAD RESIDENT ACCESS TO THE WEST.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO THEY HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS INSTEAD OF JUST ONE.

IS THAT. YEAH. RIGHT.

OKAY. YEAH. SO I THINK MAYBE WE NOTE THAT IN THE MOTION THAT OUR PREFERENCE IS THE ONE THAT ALLOWS ACCESS TO THE WEST.

YEAH. AND AMENDING THE MOTION TO NOTE THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND ACCESS TO THE WEST FOR THE HOMEOWNERS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A GOOD MOTION STAFF? I DON'T SEE ANY. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE, PLEASE.

[02:00:06]

SO GOOD LUCK TO THE NEXT MEETING.

AND MAYBE JUST TO NOTE, I THINK THE NO VOTES WAS MAYBE MORE ON THE DENSITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL.

IS THAT OKAY? I'M GETTING NODS.

OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S IN RELATION TO.

SO SURPRISE, SURPRISE CURTIS.

WITH THAT, GOOD LUCK AT THE NOVEMBER 19TH MEETING.

AND SO THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, I'M GOING TO GO CALL IT ONE LAST TIME.

ITEM EIGHT IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR ITEM EIGHT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR BAR TAVERN OF BAR/TAVERN FOR CHERRY BLOSSOM LOUNGE.

[8. Consider: ZA24-0058, Specific Use Permit for a Bar/Tavern for Cherry Blossom Lounge on property described as Lot 1, Block 1, Kimball Oaks Addition, and located at 2211 E. Southlake Blvd, Suite 500. Current Zoning: “S-P-1” Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING (Part 2 of 2) ]

I GUESS I WOULD MAYBE ASK OUR VICE CHAIR IF WE COULD TABLE THAT ITEM TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE NOVEMBER 21ST.

YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GIVE THAT A SHOT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON OUR AGENDA ZA24-0058 TO OUR NOVEMBER 21ST MEETING.

MOTION DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. COME VOTE, PLEASE.

AND PASSES SIX ZERO.

APPRECIATE THAT. AND WITH THAT, THAT DRAWS A CONCLUSION TO OUR CITY OF SOUTHLAKE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, HOWEVER.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.