[00:00:06] GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO OUR NOVEMBER 19TH, 2024 SOUTHLAKE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MY NAME IS SHAWN MCCASKILL, AND AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, I HEREBY CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, AS ALWAYS, IS TO INVITE PASTOR CLAYTON REED, OUR OFFICIAL SOUTHLAKE CITY CHAPLAIN FROM SOUTHLAKE BAPTIST CHURCH, TO LEAD US IN PRAYER. AND THEN, IF YOU WOULD REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE PLEDGE OF TEXAS. PASTOR REED, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. LET'S PRAY TOGETHER. LORD, WE GIVE THANKS FOR THIS EVENING. AND WE GIVE THANKS FOR YOUR GOODNESS. IT'S THE THANKSGIVING SEASON, AND WE'RE REMINDED THAT WE LIVE IN AN EXCEPTIONALLY COMFORTABLE, KIND PLACE, AND WE GIVE THANKS FOR THAT. WHERE WE WOKE UP THIS MORNING, MOST OF US HAD HOT WATER AND ELECTRICITY, AND YOU HAVE BEEN SO GOOD AND GRACIOUS TO US THAT LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, IN THIS AREA, AND WE GIVE THANKS FOR THAT, LORD. TONIGHT, WE ALSO GIVE THANKS FOR COMMISSIONER GARY FISCUS AND HIS LONG SERVICE TO BOTH OUR COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING TARRANT COUNTY. WE THANK YOU FOR HIS DECADES OF SERVICE, HIS LOVE FOR HIS CITY, HIS LOVE FOR OUR COUNTY AND OUR NATION. WE PRAY BLESSING ON THE NEXT THING IN HIS LIFE, BUT WE GIVE THANKS FOR PEOPLE LIKE HIM WHO LOVE, WHO SERVE, AND WHO DEEPLY CARE ABOUT THE PLACES THAT YOU PUT US IN. WE PRAY BLESSING ON HIM AND HIS FAMILY. WE GIVE THANKS FOR THEM AND SO MANY MEETINGS AND UNSELFISH SHARING THAT THAT FAMILY EXPERIENCE. WE THANK YOU FOR THEM. WE PRAY BLESSING ON HIM. WE ALSO THANK YOU FOR THE SALVATION ARMY. WE PRAY THROUGH THE HOLIDAY SEASON THAT YOU WILL BLESS THEIR EFFORTS, AND THAT THAT MONEY WOULD BE USED TO FURTHER YOUR KINGDOM AND HELP PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNCIL. BE WITH THEM TONIGHT AS THEY DELIBERATE AND MAKE DECISIONS. WE PRAY FOR INTEGRITY AND WISDOM AND PEACE. WE PRAY FOR PEACE FOR EVERY PERSON WHO SPEAKS IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT AND PROTECTION ON THIS ROOM. THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY. BLESS OUR MAYOR AS HE LEADS THE NIGHT. IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU, PASTOR REED. AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND THE TEXAS PLEDGE TO HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU, PASTOR REED. [3. Honors & Recognition: Tarrant County Precinct 3 Commissioner Gary Fickes ] NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS WORK SESSION ITEM NUMBER THREE. AND THIS IS SPECIAL RECOGNIZING FORMER SOUTHLAKE MAYOR AND CURRENT TARRANT COUNTY COMMISSIONER GARY FISCUS. LAST NIGHT WE HAD A RETIREMENT PARTY FOR COMMISSIONER FICKES. IT WAS A HUGE EVENT. HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE PACKING THE HEARST CONVENTION CENTER. LOTS OF FRIENDS THAT YOU'VE WORKED WITH IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES OVER THE YEARS AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. WHEN IT WAS MY TURN TO SPEAK, IT WAS SPECIAL KNOWING THAT YOU WERE ONE OF THE PREDECESSORS AS MAYOR HERE, AND TO FOLLOW IN YOUR FOOTSTEPS IS REALLY AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO HAVE THAT SAME TITLE THAT YOU HAD AND SERVED WITH SUCH EXEMPLARY SERVICE DURING YOUR TIME HERE. I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL IN 2015, YOU WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT I NEEDED TO TALK TO AND GET TO MEET AND GET TO KNOW AND ALL THE GREAT ADVICE AND I'M SURE YOU SENT A LOT OF VOTES MY WAY AND IT STILL STICKS WITH ME ALL THESE YEARS LATER. I REMEMBER THAT AND ALWAYS WILL. SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID LAST NIGHT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TREMENDOUS SERVICE TO NOT ONLY SOUTHLAKE, BUT ALSO TARRANT COUNTY. YOUR EXPERTISE AND YOUR ROLE IN SO MANY TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, ROADS AND HIGHWAYS AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN HAS REALLY MADE THIS SUCH A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND DO BUSINESS IN. AND THAT'S LARGELY DUE TO YOUR EFFORTS. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE. WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN RETIREMENT. IT'S WELL DESERVED AND GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. WHAT A GREAT EVENT LAST NIGHT. BUT AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO INVITE COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING TO SAY TO COMMISSIONER FICKES. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME GIFTS FOR YOU AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE PODIUM IF YOU'D LIKE. SO CITY COUNCIL, ANY COMMENTS? YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU. AND I ECHO YOUR COMMENTS FOR COMMISSIONER FICKES, AND I GUESS OUR STORIES ARE SIMILAR IN THAT WHEN I STARTED GETTING INVOLVED IN THE CITY AND ULTIMATELY WAS ELECTED TO CITY COUNCIL BACK IN 2013, I TOO HAD TO MEET WITH COMMISSIONER FICKES, AND IT SEEMED THAT YOU HAD TO COME THROUGH COMMISSIONER FISCUS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT THE STAMP OF APPROVAL AND WE'RE READY TO DO THIS JOB. [00:05:01] SO I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I'VE GROWN TO KNOW HE AND HIS WIFE OVER THE LAST DECADE, AND THE SERVICE IS INCREDIBLE, ABSOLUTELY IMPECCABLE. WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THIS COUNTY AT JUST INCREDIBLE MAGNITUDE OF PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT TO THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR SOUTHLAKE, BOTH AS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THEN IN THE YEARS FOLLOWING. AND I'D ALSO SAY I'VE REALLY ENJOYED ALL THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND DEER HUNTING AND DEER CAMPS AND THAT TYPE OF THING. IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL TO GET TO KNOW YOU ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, SO I WISH YOU GODSPEED IN YOUR RETIREMENT AND LOOK FORWARD TO STAYING IN TOUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RANDY. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, GARY, IT'S JUST SUCH A LEGACY THAT YOU LEAVE HERE IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, AND THE YEARS THAT YOU SERVED WERE SUCH FORMATIVE YEARS FOR THE CITY. AND NOT JUST SOUTHLAKE, BUT REALLY YOUR LEGACY OF PUBLIC SERVICE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS TRULY ONE OF A KIND. LOTS OF US, YOU KNOW, WILL SIT UP HERE AND WE SERVE OUR TIME AND THEN WE'RE KIND OF DONE. AND YOU JUST CONTINUE TO GO ON AND DO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS. AND IT'S BEEN REALLY JUST SPECIAL TO WATCH YOUR CAREER AND HOW IT STARTED. AND ALL THE YEARS THAT YOU GAVE TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND SOUTHLAKE CITY COUNCIL AND TOWN SQUARE WASN'T EVEN HERE. AND THAT ALL CAME A LOT OF IT CAME, I THINK THE APPROVALS CAME UNDER YOU. SO I'M JUST THANKFUL TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR ALL YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE. AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT. THANK YOU, AMY. WELL, YOU WALKED UP A SECOND AGO TO SHAKE MY HAND. I SAID, GREAT TO MEET YOU AGAIN. AND I REALIZED WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY MET. WE'VE TALKED ON THE PHONE, AND I'M CERTAIN YOU DON'T REMEMBER THIS. ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, I HAD A CLIENT IN HIGHLAND PARK WHO WANTED TO BUY A BUSINESS, AND HE CALLED ME UP AND HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW THIS GUY, YOU KNOW, GARY FICKES. AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, BUT I GOT A NUMBER FROM ONE. I THINK IT WAS A FORMER COUNCILMAN IN COLLEGE. YOU PICKED IT UP FROM LIKE THE SECOND RING AND WE HAD THIS GREAT CONVERSATION. I GOT OFF THE PHONE THINKING, WHAT A GREAT GUY. I'M THANKFUL TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU BECAUSE ME AND MY WIFE, I ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FROM MISSISSIPPI. THAT'S ALWAYS HOME. SOUTHLAKE WILL ALWAYS BE MY DAUGHTER'S HOME. AND SO FOR ME, I FEEL A SPECIAL BOND THAT MY KIDS WILL ALWAYS BRING THEIR KIDS BACK TO SEE PAPAW RONELL. THEY CAN'T CALL ME THAT, BY THE WAY, IN THEIR HOME. AND I'LL BE ABLE TO SAY THAT I HAD A HAND, A SMALL HAND IN KEEPING THE THINGS THAT YOU HELPED ESTABLISH YEARS AND DECADES AGO. SO THANK YOU. I'M FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND SPECIFICALLY YOU, FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. RONELL FRANCES. YEAH. COMMISSIONER FISCUS, I TOO, I KNOW WE'VE MET A FEW TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT DIDN'T REALLY GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER. BUT JUST TO ECHO WHAT WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID. FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVANT LEADERSHIP OF OVER 35 YEARS. IT'S INCREDIBLE. JUST YOU GIVING YOUR HEART AND SOUL TO OUR CITY, TO OUR COUNTY AND TO THE. I MEAN, IT HAS TO BE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE SERVED, AND THAT IS JUST SIMPLY STELLAR. AND SO I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE THANK YOUS AND I HOPE THAT YOUR RETIREMENT IS WONDERFUL. AND I BET YOU WON'T BE SITTING DOWN. AND I BET I BET YOU'VE GOT SOME PLANS. AND SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU, CATHY. I HAD THE PRIVILEGE LAST NIGHT OF ATTENDING THE RETIREMENT DINNER AT HURST CONFERENCE CENTER. THE ROOM WAS ABSOLUTELY FULL OF PEOPLE. WE HEARD ABOUT ALL OF GARY'S SERVICES, OF WHICH EVERYBODY HAS SPOKEN. BUT WE ALSO GOT TO HEAR ABOUT A LOT OF HIS ESCAPADES WHEN HE WASN'T SERVING. IN ALL THE FUN HE HAS. WHEN HE'S NOT SERVING. HE IS A VERY BUSY GUY. THERE'S NOT A DOUBT IN MY MIND HE'S GOING TO REMAIN VERY BUSY AFTERWARDS, AND I MET WITH HIM BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL IN MAY AND I, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS PENDING RETIREMENT, BUT HE SAID, OH, I ALREADY HAVE SOME THINGS IN THE WORKS. SO AND THAT WAS PROBABLY IN JANUARY. SO I THINK HE'S PROBABLY NOT REALLY RETIRING. HE'S RETIRING FROM THIS JOB, BUT I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE DOING LOTS OF THINGS. GOOD LUCK TO YOU. ENJOY THIS NEXT CHAPTER. THANK YOU. FRANCES. SO LAST NIGHT WE PRESENTED COMMISSIONER FICKES WITH A PROCLAMATION FROM THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE ON BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL. AND IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME FOR JUST A MINUTE, I'M GOING TO READ THAT PROCLAMATION. WE HAVE ANOTHER COPY OF IT HERE. I KNOW YOU TOOK ONE HOME LAST NIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS ONE AND PUT IT UP HERE IN TOWN HALL. BUT THIS IS WHAT THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE PROCLAMATION SAYS. WHEREAS COMMISSIONER GARY FICKES HAS SERVED THE CITIZENS OF TARRANT COUNTY PRECINCT THREE WITH DEDICATION, LEADERSHIP AND INTEGRITY. FOR MANY YEARS, AND WHEREAS, THROUGHOUT HIS OVER 35 YEARS OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AS A COMMISSIONER, MAYOR AND COMMUNITY LEADER, HE HAS DEMONSTRATED AN UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF TARRANT COUNTY, CHAMPIONING PROJECTS THAT ENHANCE INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND COMMUNITY [00:10:05] DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEREAS HIS VISIONARY LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN THE PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF NUMEROUS INITIATIVES THAT HAVE HAD A LASTING IMPACT ON THE GROWTH AND PROSPERITY OF TARRANT COUNTY, INCLUDING TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS, AND ADVANCEMENTS REGARDING PATIENT HEALTH CARE. AND WHEREAS, COMMISSIONER GARY FICKES HAS BEEN A TIRELESS ADVOCATE FOR REGIONAL COLLABORATION, WORKING ALONGSIDE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, CITY LEADERS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THAT TARRANT COUNTY REMAINS VIBRANT AND THRIVING FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. AND WHEREAS GARY HAS CONSISTENTLY SHOWN A STRONG COMMITMENT TO FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, ENSURING THAT TAXPAYER RESOURCES ARE UTILIZED WISELY AND EFFICIENTLY, SETTING A HIGH STANDARD FOR PUBLIC SERVICE. NOW, THEREFORE, I, MAYOR SHAWN MCCASKILL. ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTHLAKE CITY COUNCIL AND ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 18TH, 2024, AS COMMISSIONER GARY FICKES DAY IN HONOR OF HIS DISTINGUISHED SERVICE, AND WE EXTEND OUR HEARTFELT APPRECIATION AND BEST WISHES FOR A WELL-DESERVED AND FULFILLING RETIREMENT. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. MR. COMMISSIONER, THE MICROPHONE IS YOURS. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME GIFTS FOR YOU, AND WE'D LIKE TO GET A PICTURE WITH YOU, IF THAT'S OKAY. DON'T YOU KNOW THIS IS A DANGEROUS PLACE FOR A FORMER POLITICIAN. WELL, WE CAN MUTE IT IF WE GET OUT OF HAND, SO. BUT GO AHEAD. OH, WOW. WELL, I'M AT HOME. OKAY. I'M AT HOME. I MAY LIVE DOWN THE STREET A LITTLE BIT, BUT THIS IS MY HOME AND ALWAYS WILL BE. AND MY KIDS ALL WENT TO SCHOOL HERE, AND. AND SURPRISINGLY, THEY ALL TURNED OUT GOOD. AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO BAIL THEM OUT OF JAIL OR USE MY GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD. YOU GOT ONE, DON'T YOU? I HOPE SO. NO. I'M JOKING. I JUST WANT TO. I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL AND THANK YOU FOR. FOR WHAT YOU WHAT YOU DO TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SOUTHLAKE THAT SHINING BUCKLE ACROSS THE ENTIRE METROPLEX. WE'RE THE ENVY OF EVERYONE, AND YOU KNOW IT, I KNOW IT, AND PEOPLE ALL OVER THE DALLAS FORT WORTH REGION KNOW IT. AND IT TOOK PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE YOU AND THOSE THAT WILL COME AFTER YOU TO TO TO KEEP THAT GOING. AND IT WILL KEEP GOING. SO WE GOT THE, THE RIGHT INGREDIENTS, THE RIGHT STUFF TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO WITH THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR. AND WE'RE GOING TO COME GET A PICTURE WITH YOU FOLKS. MIC]. [4. Honors & Recognition: Proclamation for The Salvation Army Red Kettle Kickoff ] [00:15:41] NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA IS WORK SESSION ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THE SALVATION ARMY OF NORTH TEXAS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE LIEUTENANT RICHARD REYNOLDS FROM SALVATION ARMY TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE UPCOMING SALVATION ARMY RED KETTLE KICKOFF AND THE MERRELL CHALLENGE. COME ON DOWN, SIR. GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR INVITING US HERE TO YOUR COUNCIL MEETING THIS EVENING. IT'S A WONDERFUL TO BE HERE. TO MY RIGHT IS [INAUDIBLE] RICHARDSON. HE IS OUR MAJOR GIFTS DIRECTOR FOR THE NORTH TEXAS AREA. AND I'M THE CORPS OFFICER IN IRVING. WELL, WHAT'S IRVING DOING IN SOUTHLAKE? WELL, SOUTHLAKE IS ACTUALLY UNDER MY AREA OF OPERATION. AND IT'S TIME FOR RED KETTLES. CAPTAIN MCFEE, I SEE YOU HAVE IT UP ON THE SLIDE. IN 1891, CAPTAIN JOSEPH MCPHEE WAS TRYING TO FIND A CREATIVE WAY TO RAISE MONEY TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF SAN FRANCISCO THAT WERE HOMELESS AND IN NEED. AND HE REMEMBERED SEEING A POT BACK IN HIS SAILING DAYS IN LONDON THAT PEOPLE WOULD TOSS MONEY IN. AND THAT'S WHERE HE GOT THE IDEA OF THE RED KETTLE. AND TO THIS DAY, OVER 150 YEARS LATER, WE STILL HONOR THIS TRADITION. TRADITION IS IMPORTANT. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY BEGUN OUR KETTLE CAMPAIGN. WE STARTED ON NOVEMBER 4TH AT THE HOBBY LOBBY HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. KROGER WILL COME AVAILABLE TO US AT THE ON THE BLACK FRIDAY. BUT WE'RE ALL RINGING ALL ACROSS NORTH TEXAS, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE. AND THESE FUNDS WILL STAY LOCAL AND THEY WILL ALL BE USED TO HELP THOSE IN NEED. SO WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT, MR. MAYOR, IN THE MAYORAL CHALLENGE. AND THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO HELP HIM. I BELIEVE WE SENT THE MAYOR HIS OWN UNIQUE, VIRTUAL KETTLE, A QR CODE, AND YOU GUYS CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOUR LOVED ONES, YOUR COWORKERS, AND OTHERS IN YOUR CIRCLE AND THE MONEY THAT CAN BE RAISED TO HELP HIM MEET HIS GOAL. BECAUSE IN NORTH TEXAS, IT'S EVERY MAN FOR THEMSELVES. AND SO HE'S UP AGAINST A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING HARD TO HELP US RAISE FUNDS. SO IT'S A FUN WAY TO GIVE BACK, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'RE IN THE SEASON OF THANKSGIVING SOME OF US ARE SO BLESSED AND OTHERS ARE NOT. AND SO, THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL OF US TO HELP OUT. AND FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE THAT SEEM INTERESTED IN RED KETTLE, I DID BRING SOME FORMS, AND I'LL LEAVE THEM AT THE BACK TABLE FOR YOU. AND IT'S GOT A QR CODE WHERE YOU CAN SET UP YOUR OWN VIRTUAL RED KETTLE. OR IF YOU WANT TO RING THE BELL, THERE'S A QR CODE ON THE BACK WHERE YOU CAN SIGN UP TO RING, AND THAT HELPS US A LOT TOO. AND THAT'S IT. SO WE'RE DOING THE EVENT ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER 14TH RIGHT AT HOBBY LOBBY, KIND OF ON THE WEST END OF TOWN. I'M HOPING TO BE THERE. WE HAVE DRAGON'S FOOTBALL PLAYOFFS AND MY KID IS ON THE TEAM, SO WE'LL SEE. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN DO BOTH, BUT THE EVENT WILL STILL GO ON EVEN IF I'M NOT THERE. SO SATURDAY, DECEMBER 14TH AT HOBBY LOBBY AND ALSO POSSIBLY AT KROGER. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. YES. OKAY. WELL, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO RECOGNIZE THE SALVATION ARMY. SO IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A MINUTE TO READ THAT AND THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU A COPY OF THE PROCLAMATION. AND IF WE COULD TAKE SOME PICTURES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO LET'S DO THE PROCLAMATION. THIS IS FROM THE WHOLE SOUTHLAKE CITY COUNCIL. WHEREAS THE HOLIDAY SEASON IS A TIME FOR GIVING, SHARING AND COMING TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THOSE IN NEED. AND WHEREAS THE SALVATION ARMY HAS A LONG AND DISTINGUISHED HISTORY OF SERVING COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, PROVIDING ESSENTIAL SERVICES SUCH AS SHELTER, FOOD, REHABILITATION AND HOPE TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EXPERIENCING HARDSHIP. AND WHEREAS THE SALVATION ARMY'S ANNUAL RED KETTLE CAMPAIGN IS A BELOVED TRADITION THAT UNITES PEOPLE ACROSS ALL WALKS OF LIFE IN A COMMON MISSION TO HELP THE MOST VULNERABLE, VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS THE FUNDS RAISED THROUGH THE RED KETTLE CAMPAIGN STAY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, HELPING TO PROVIDE CRITICAL RESOURCES FOR LOCAL FAMILIES, INDIVIDUALS AND CHILDREN WHO RELY ON THE SALVATION ARMY'S PROGRAMS FOR ASSISTANCE DURING CHALLENGING TIMES. AND WHEREAS, THE ICONIC RED KETTLES AND VOLUNTEER BELL RINGERS HAVE BECOME SYMBOLS OF HOPE AND GOODWILL, INSPIRING THE SPIRIT OF GIVING AND BRINGING THE [00:20:03] COMMUNITY TOGETHER EACH HOLIDAY SEASON. AND WHEREAS THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE HAVE CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED GENEROSITY AND COMPASSION, SUPPORTING THE SALVATION ARMY'S MISSION TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE IN NEED AND HELPING TO BUILD A BRIGHTER, MORE HELPFUL FUTURE FOR ALL. NOW, THEREFORE, I, MAYOR SHAWN MCCASKILL, ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTHLAKE CITY COUNCIL, AND ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE KICKOFF OF THE SALVATION ARMY RED KETTLE CAMPAIGN SEASON, AND WE ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR CITIZENS TO JOIN IN SUPPORTING THEIR EFFORTS BY DONATING TO THE RED KETTLES, VOLUNTEERING AND SPREADING KINDNESS AND GOODWILL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THIS HOLIDAY SEASON. GOD BLESS YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU. NOW, IF WE COULD GET A PICTURE WITH YOU ALL. ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE THE PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. IF I CAN HAVE EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT, BIG SMILES, EVERYONE. HOW ARE WE DOING? THANK YOU SO MUCH. VERY NICE TO BE HERE. [5. Discuss all items on tonight's agenda. No action will be taken and each item will be considered during the Regular Session. ] NEXT IS WORK SESSION, ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WE WILL DISCUSS ALL OF THE ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. AND FOR THAT ITEM, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM KATHY TALLEY. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION. ITEM 4.A APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ITEM 4.B APPROVES A 24-0061 PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WILLOW TREE GARDENS ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACK 3-C AND PORTIONS OF TRACKS 3-D03 AND 3D03A WW HALL SURVEY ABSTRACT 695, CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TARRANT COUNTY, TEXAS AND LOCATED AT 240 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE AND PORTIONS OF 918 THROUGH 1050 EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS. CURRENT ZONING TZD, TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT. ITEM 4.C APPROVE AN ENCROACHMENT AND JOINT USE AGREEMENT FOR A WROUGHT IRON FENCE WITHIN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT BEING LOCATED AT 300 SANCTUARY CIRCLE AND 904 STACEY DRIVE. ITEM FOUR D APPROVE A FACILITIES UTILIZATION AGREEMENT WITH DRAGON YOUTH FOOTBALL. ITEM 4.E APPROVE A FACILITIES UTILIZATION AGREEMENT WITH GRAPEVINE SOUTHLAKE SOCCER ASSOCIATION. ITEM 4.F APPROVE OF FACILITIES UTILIZATION AGREEMENT WITH SOUTHLAKE CARROLL LACROSSE ASSOCIATION. ITEM 4.G APPROVE A FACILITIES UTILIZATION AGREEMENT WITH LADY DRAGON LACROSSE. ITEM FOUR H ORDINANCE NUMBER 486-57-F ZA 24-0056. FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR THE ELMORE BY MARRIOTT, CURRENTLY KNOWN AS THE SOUTHLAKE HOTEL ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS KIMBALL PARK ADDITIONS AND LOCATED AT 2102-2116 EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS. CURRENT ZONING SP 2 GENERAL SITE PLAN DISTRICT. PROPOSED ZONING SP TWO GENERALIZED SITE PLAN DISTRICT. ITEM 4.I. ORDINANCE 1228C FIRST READING. AMENDING ARTICLE FIVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES OF CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION TO RENUMBER CHAPTER TWO, ARTICLE FIVE AND CREATE THE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE CUMULATIVE OF ALL ORDINANCES. PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION AS REQUIRED BY LAW, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ITEM 4.J. ORDINANCE NUMBER 836-A. FIRST READING AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 9.5, ARTICLE THREE OF THE SOUTHLAKE CITY CODE. UPDATING THE INDUSTRIAL WASTEWATER PRETREATMENT PROGRAM. ITEM 4.K EXCUSE THE ABSENCE OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER STACEY DRISCOLL FROM THE NOVEMBER 7TH, 2024 REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. ITEM 4.L WITHDRAW RESOLUTION NUMBER 24. DASH 041 ZA 20 4-0058. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAR. TAVERN FOR CHERRY BLOSSOM LOUNGE LOCATED ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT ONE, BLOCK ONE KIMBALL OAKS ADDITION AND LOCATED AT 2211 EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SUITE [00:25:07] 500 AND ITEM 4.M TABLE ORDINANCE NUMBER 48564-F ZA 24-0042. SECOND READING. ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CAROLINE PARK PLAZA DISTRICT ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACKS [INAUDIBLE] SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 300 AND GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTHEAST 114 AND NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD, WEST OF RIVIERA DRIVE, AND APPROXIMATELY 600FT SOUTH OF EAST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD. CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TARRANT COUNTY, TEXAS. CURRENT ZONING. EMPLOYMENT CENTER. ZONING DISTRICT. REQUESTED. ZONING. EMPLOYMENT CENTER. ZONING DISTRICT. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TALLEY ANY DISCUSSION OR PRESENTATIONS NEEDED ON ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE THAT UP AND VOTE ON THOSE DURING THE REGULAR SESSION. NEXT UP, I'LL CALL OUR REGULAR SESSION TO ORDER. [1. Call to order.] AND THE FIRST ITEM UNDER THE REGULAR SESSION IS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. [2. A. Executive Session] AS MAYOR, I HEREBY ADVISE YOU THAT WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.071 TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. SECTION 551.072 TO DELIBERATE REGARDING REAL ESTATE REAL PROPERTY MATTERS. AND SECTION 551.087 TO DELIBERATE REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS. AND I'LL ASK THE CITY MANAGER FOR AN ESTIMATE ON WHEN WE THINK WE'LL BE BACK. 07:00 OR 7:15. BETWEEN 7 AND 7:15. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SEE YOU THEN. ALL RIGHT. I WILL CALL OUR REGULAR MEETING BACK TO ORDER. [2.B. Reconvene] IS THERE ANY ACTION NECESSARY FOLLOWING EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TALLEY MAYOR'S REPORT. [3.A. Mayor’s Report ] ALL RIGHT. THIS SATURDAY, WE HAVE THE ANNUAL 25TH ANNUAL HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS. CHRISTMAS TIME IN SOUTHLAKE STARTS RIGHT HERE IN TOWN SQUARE AT 430 ON SATURDAY. THE TREE LIGHTING. AND I'VE BEEN PROMISED THAT THE LIGHTS HAVE BEEN TESTED. THE LIGHTS WILL COME ON AT PROMPTLY 6:00. AND THEN THERE'S STUFF AFTERWARDS, INCLUDING FIREWORKS. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYONE ON SATURDAY AGAIN STARTING AT 4:30, WITH THE TREE LIGHTING AND ALL THE LIGHTS COMING ON AT 6:00. SO THAT'S IT FOR THE MAYOR'S REPORT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ALISON ORTOWSKI FOR THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. [3.B. City Manager’s Report ] THANK YOU. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE YOUR MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. DEPUTY DIRECTOR IN OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS STEPPED FORWARD. VINCE ESPINOSA IS HERE TO PROVIDE A REALLY EXCITING UPDATE ON OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS TURF CONVERSION PROJECT. WELL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. AS MISS ALISON SAID, I'M HERE TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE FOR THE TURF PROJECT. SO, HISTORY AT BICENTENNIAL PARK. WE CONVERTED FOUR BASEBALL FIELDS AND ADDED NEW FENCING, DUGOUTS AND BACKSTOP WALLS. AND AT BOB JONES PARK, WE CONVERTED FOUR SOFTBALL FIELDS AND THREE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS, ADDED NEW FENCING, DUGOUT AND BACKSTOP WALLS AS WELL, AND THE WORK WAS COMPLETED BY GEOSERVICES. SO THIS WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN GEOSERVICES CITY OF SOUTHLAKE GIRLS SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION, DRAGON YOUTH BASEBALL, GRAPEVINE SOUTHLAKE SOCCER ASSOCIATION, AND MIRACLE LEAGUE. AND IN THAT PICTURE, YOU COULD SEE CITY STAFF WITH MEMBERS OF THE CONTRACTORS AND ALSO REPRESENTATIVES FROM DRAGON YOUTH BASEBALL. THAT'S FIELD THREE AT BICENTENNIAL PARK. SO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, AS OF FRIDAY, THE TWO PICTURES ON THE RIGHT WERE FLOWN BY OUR AMAZING DRONE OPERATOR, MR. CHANTY. AND GIVEN THE FOOTAGE TO MISS VICKY, WHO IS ALSO OUR AMAZING MARKETING MANAGER FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, WHICH THEY WERE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE FOLLOWING VIDEO. [00:30:38] ALL RIGHT. SO IN THESE PICTURES YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE FIELDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN USE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE HAPPY FACES. AS OF TODAY, WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH RIBBON CUTTING ON THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD IN MAY. AND SOCCER WAS ABLE TO USE THAT FIELD IN APRIL, AND DB WAS ABLE TO USE THE BASEBALL FIELD, AT BICENTENNIAL PARK IN MARCH, AND GIRLS SOFTBALL HOSTED A TOURNAMENT RECENTLY THIS MONTH AT BOB JONES. SO WINTER PLANS TOP RIGHT PICTURE. YOU CAN SEE MY MAN, MR. CHARLES USING THE LITTER CAT TO GROOM THE FIELD AND ALSO PULLING A MAGNET. THIS WAS BEFORE THE GIRLS SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT A COUPLE WEEKENDS AGO. JUST TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING'S PICKED UP AS THE CONTRACTOR LEFT THAT FIELD READY TO PLAY. SO DURING THE WINTER, WE PLAN TO REHAB THE NATURAL TURF, THE IRRIGATION, AND BEGIN PERFORMING OUR ROUTINE REGULAR MAINTENANCE. SO NEXT SPRING, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OPENING DAYS OF THE LEAGUES, WILL BE HOSTING A RIBBON CUTTING ON THESE FIELDS AT THESE PARKS. AND THAT TOP CORNER. MOST OF YOU KNOW MISS JEN, THE PRESIDENT OF THE GIRLS SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION, IS ECSTATIC THAT SHE'S ABLE TO USE THESE FIELDS. AND SPRING IS LOOKING GOOD. I'D LIKE TO THANK MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT FOR ALLOWING US TO PERFORM THIS PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT'S A FANTASTIC ASSET. THAT'S NOT VERY COMMON. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF LESS RAIN OUTS AND MORE HAPPY FACES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. WELL, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. I KNOW SOME OF THE FIELDS TOOK A LITTLE LONGER THAN WE EXPECTED, BECAUSE THAT JUST HAPPENS WHEN YOU START DIGGING AND GO, OH, THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED OR WE NEED TO. WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT PROBLEM WAS THERE. BUT IT'S BEEN A GREAT PROJECT. I MEAN, TO PUT TOGETHER THE 11 TURF FIELDS ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS AND GET THEM DONE THIS QUICKLY. AND PAY CASH, YOU KNOW, $11 MILLION. AND I KNOW SBDC AND RANDY IS INVOLVED IN THAT AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S REALLY, REALLY A GOOD COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THOSE YOUTH SPORTS GROUPS AND SBDC AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND THEN MAKE IT HAPPEN SO QUICKLY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PART AND THE LAST PART AS FAR AS PUTTING IT TOGETHER AND MAKING IT HAPPEN. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YEARS OF GREAT USE OUT OF THESE FIELDS. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. AND IT WAS A IT WAS TIME TO DO IT AND I'M GLAD IT'S DONE. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCIL GO AHEAD. YES MAYOR. THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST ADD YEAH A BIG THANK YOU TO YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND WORK ON THIS DIRECTOR MILLER AS WELL. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE. THE FINISHED PRODUCT IS LOOKING JUST OUTSTANDING. AND I CAN TELL YOU SO MANY TIMES WE'D BE OUT THERE, I'D GO OUT THERE, TAKE A LOOK, AND HE'S THERE, YOU KNOW, HE'S THERE ON SITE, CHECKING IT OUT HIMSELF. AND I HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE PROCESS JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IT. SO I WAS FULL OF QUESTIONS AND YOU GUYS ALWAYS ASSURED ME. AND SURE ENOUGH, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, THE FINISHED PRODUCT IS BEAUTIFUL. I'M I'D GIVE ANYTHING TO BE A YOUNG KID NOWADAYS AND GET TO PLAY ON THESE FACILITIES. I MEAN, IT'S INCREDIBLE. YEAH, WELL, PUBLIC WORKS HAD A BIG HAND IN HELPING US, TOO, YOU KNOW? YEAH. BIG, BIG, BIG HAND. AND WE MADE SOME COOL VIDEOS OUT THERE. YEAH. WE DID. IT WAS GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. ANYTHING ELSE? ALISON. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] WE REVIEWED THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS DURING OUR WORK SESSION. UNLESS THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION FROM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM KATHY TALLEY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU. MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOR A THROUGH FORM. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES. AND OUR CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC FORUM. THE PUBLIC FORUM ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA. [00:35:02] IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IN OUR PUBLIC FORUM? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM SEVEN, A ORDINANCE NUMBER 480 823. [7.A. Ordinance Nos. 480-823 and 480-824, ZA24-0051, 1st Reading, Zoning Change and Site Plan and Zoning Change and Development Plan for Forefront Senior Living on property described as Lots 1A, 1B, 2, and 3, Parker's Corner Addition, and Tract 2A02, J. Allen Survey Abstract No. 18, and located at 300-684 Davis Blvd., City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas. Current Zoning: “RE5” Residential Estate District and “SF-1A” Single Family Residential District. Proposed Zoning: “S-P-1” Detailed Site Plan District and “TZD” Transition Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #11. ] AND ALSO ORDINANCE NUMBER 480824. CASE NUMBER ZA 24-0051. FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN AND A ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR FOREFRONT SENIOR LIVING DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. AS YOU SAID, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE ZONING ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 303684 DAVIS BOULEVARD. THE REQUEST IS TWO DISTRICTS BEING REQUESTED HERE A CHANGE FROM PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AND SF ONE A SINGLE FAMILY TO SP1 DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT AND TRANSITION DISTRICT. THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE PROPERTY. THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY IS MIXED USE AND 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN. AND THESE ARE SOME SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY. STARTING WITH, IF POSSIBLE, PROPERTIES SHOULD BE MASTER PLANNED AND DEVELOPED IN A COORDINATED MANNER. VEHICLE CROSS ACCESS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OR REQUIRED AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS. COMMERCIAL DRIVES DIRECTLY ONTO DAVIS BOULEVARD SHOULD BE LIMITED AND SHARING DRIVE ACCESS BETWEEN PROPERTIES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. MEDIANS WILL BE INSTALLED ALONG DAVIS IN THE FUTURE, AND FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD TO SOUTH TO CONTINENTAL, AND HOW DRIVEWAYS ARE ORIENTED SHOULD CONSIDER WHERE THOSE MEDIANS MEETING OPENINGS WOULD BE. DESIGN A PROPERTY SHOULD BE CONDUCTED IN A MANNER THAT PRESERVES OR EVEN HIGHLIGHTS THE CREEK AREA. TRAILS SHOULD BE CONSTRUCTED MASTER PLANNED ALONG THE CREEK AREA, AND AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, IT SHOULD BE EVALUATED FOR POSSIBILITIES OF PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY ACROSS THE CREEK. SKELETAL DEVELOPMENT IS INTENDED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND USES USES SUCH AS LOW PROFILE OFFICE HEALTH OR OTHER IDENTIFIED TARGET. TARGETED RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES IDENTIFIED BY OUR ECONOMIC THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED AND THEN BUILDING LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE LOCATED NEAR THE FRONT BUILDING LINE, WITH PARKING MOSTLY ORIENTED BEHIND THE BUILDINGS. THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY. AS I MENTIONED, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL ESTATE ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IN SF-1 ON ONE OF THE SOUTHERN TRACKS. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR SEPTEMBER 19TH MEETING. FOLLOWING DISCUSSION OF THE ITEM, THE APPLICANT TABLED THIS ITEM AND WENT BACK TO WORK WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. AND THIS IS THE REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING. AND WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU HERE THIS EVENING? CHANGES THAT OCCURRED HERE. THE SINGLE FAMILY TYPE COTTAGE UNITS WERE REORIENTED TO PLACE SOME OF THOSE ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE CONGREGATE SENIOR LIVING STRUCTURE. THE HEIGHT OF PORTIONS OF THE STRUCTURE WERE LOWERED AND STRUCTURE WAS SPREAD OUT TO MAINTAIN THE UNIT COUNT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED THAT THAT IS 190 UNITS ON THE SP1 PORTION OF THE REQUEST WHICH IS IN THIS AREA. AS YOU FOLLOW MY CURSOR AND 20 UNITS ON THIS PORTION OF THE REQUEST, WHICH IS THE TZD REQUESTS BEFORE YOU. THE TOTAL UNIT COUNT IS 210 UNITS, AND ON THE OVERALL DENSITY, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY TEN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. NOW, THIS IS A COMPARISON OF THE PLANS AS THEY EVOLVED FOLLOWING THE INITIAL PUBLIC HEARING AT [00:40:08] PNC. AND THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE STRUCTURE TYPES. THIS WOULD BE IN THE SINGLE FAMILY COTTAGE PORTION ZONED UNDER THE TZD DISTRICT. ONCE AGAIN ORIGINAL PLAN. THIS IS FOR THE TRANSITION OR THE SP1 DISTRICT AND HOW THAT EVOLVED TO THE REVISED PLAN. AND THIS IS A DATA SUMMARY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE FOR THE SP1 DISTRICT. THIS IS THE OVERALL LANDSCAPE PLAN UNDER THE MODIFIED PLAN. AND THE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN UNDER THE MODIFIED PLAN, BASED ON A STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS 47 PLUS OR MINUS PERCENT COVERAGE OF TREES AND UNDER A STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT REQUEST, THE MINIMUM PRESERVATION WOULD BE SET AT A MINIMUM OF 50% OF THAT TO BE PRESERVED. THEIR PROPOSAL IS AT APPROXIMATELY 51%. THIS IS THE FENCING PLAN. ALONG THE PERIMETERS AND MAJORITY OF THE DAVIS BOULEVARD FRONTAGE, IT WOULD BE OPEN METAL ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCING WITH STONE COLUMNS. THE COTTAGE UNITS WOULD HAVE A STONE SIX FOOT STONE WALL, AND THEN ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY WOULD BE EIGHT FOOT BOARD ON FOOT, OR EIGHT FOOT AND SIX FOOT BOARD ON BOARD. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL ELEVATIONS OF THE CONGREGATE SENIOR LIVING UNIT. AND THIS IS A REVISED RENDERING OF THAT SHOWING HOW A PORTION OF THAT WAS LOWERED. THE REAR PORTION OF THE BUILDING ALSO LOWERED BY A FLOOR ON A PORTION OF THAT. AND THIS WOULD BE EAST ELEVATION VIEW. UP IS THE UPPER VIEW AS THE ORIGINAL ELEVATION. LOWER IS THE REVISED ELEVATION. ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE OF THE EASTERN ELEVATION. AND THIS IS REVISED WESTERN ELEVATION. THESE ARE SOME SIGHTLINE ANALYSES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED, JUST TO SHOW HOW THE 4 TO 1 SLOPE WOULD BE APPLIED FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO IT. ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD AT P&Z AND AS I MENTIONED, THEY TABLED THE ITEM TO GO BACK AND WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT THAT MEETING. THEY TABLED THAT ITEM OUT UNTIL THE NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING, AND AT THAT MEETING, THE ITEM WAS APPROVED 3 TO 2 SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT AND THE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARIES THAT WERE IN THAT REPORT. THIS IS THE NOTICE AREA MAP AND RESPONSES THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND PROXIMITY TO THE PROJECT, INCLUSIVE OF OUR 300 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA, AS WELL AS THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA THAT CAN IMPACT YOUR VOTE REQUIREMENT. AS OF TO DATE THE OPPOSITION FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS IS AT APPROXIMATELY 37% OF THAT 200 FOOT BUFFER AREA, WHICH AT A SECOND READING WOULD REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE BY THE COUNCIL IN ORDER TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION WHICH THEY CAN. [00:45:02] DENNIS, I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU ON THE MAP, THERE'S SOME REFERENCE IN THE PACKET TO A FUTURE. THE FUTURE MEDIANS, CAN YOU POINT OUT. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A MEDIAN BREAK. CAN YOU POINT OUT ON DAVIS WHERE THAT IS. YES. THANK YOU. LET ME GET TO AN OVERALL SITE PLAN. AND THIS EXHIBIT RIGHT NOW, THE MEDIAN BREAK ON THE CURRENT PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN SHOWN WOULD BE CENTERED AROUND THIS ACCESS DRIVE, WHICH IT IS INTENDED AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY. IT DOES ALIGN WITH THE STREET COMING OUT OF RIDGEVIEW TO THE EAST OF IT. THE APPLICANT HAS, WE UNDERSTAND BEEN DISCUSSING WITH TXDOT AND TXDOT CAN RELOCATE THE DRIVE AND DID PROVIDE US A RESPONSE TO THIS APPLICATION THAT SHOULD THE TRAFFIC WARRANT, THEY COULD RELOCATE THE MEDIAN BREAK TO ALIGN WHERE THE MOST APPROPRIATE DRIVE WOULD BE APPROVED. THE CURRENT DRIVE HERE WOULD ALIGN WITH THE MOST SOUTHERN ENTRY INTO WHAT IS CALLED HIDDEN KNOLLS, WHICH IS THE SECOND PHASE OF RIDGEVIEW. AND I COULD PROBABLY. MIGHT HAVE HELPED TO GO TO THE AERIAL TO SHOW THAT TOO. BUT CURRENTLY THIS IS WHERE THEIR EMERGENCY ACCESS DRIVE IS, AND THAT'S WHERE TXDOT'S ORIGINAL PLAN SHOWED THE MEETING CROSSING. AND THIS IS WHERE THEIR MAIN DRIVEWAY IS. AND TXDOT HAS INDICATED THAT A MEDIAN BREAK COULD BE EITHER RELOCATED OR PROVIDED AT THAT OTHER DRIVEWAY SHOULD THE TRAFFIC WARRANT. AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH TXDOT ON THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THANK YOU. WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME DOWN. WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU. AND IF YOU COULD BOTH STATE YOUR NAMES AND ADDRESSES FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN THE MICROPHONE IS YOURS. I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION IS ALREADY LOADED UP. GOOD EVENING, I'M JANELLE BERTOLINO. MY ADDRESS IS 12467 MERRITT DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS. 75231. GOOD EVENING. I'M TIM MALLARD, CEO FOR FOREFRONT LIVING. SAME ADDRESS AS JANELLE. WORK ADDRESS. AND THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING TO US THIS EVENING. I CAN BEGIN THE PRESENTATION BY SAYING A GOOD PORTION OF WHAT YOU JUST SAW IS CONTAINED WITHIN THIS PRESENTATION. SO WE WILL NOT SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THE SLIDES, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. SO IF I CAN FIGURE OUT THIS CURSOR THEN WE'RE GOOD. FOREFRONT LIVING VERY, VERY EASY STORY. WE'VE BEEN SERVING SENIORS IN THIS PART OF TEXAS FOR NEARLY 65 YEARS. WE HAVE TO UPDATE THIS SLIDE. WE CURRENTLY OWN TWO CCRCS. CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES IN DALLAS, ONE IN DALLAS AND ONE IN PLANO. AND FAITH PRESBYTERIAN HOSPICE, AS WELL AS THE T BOONE PICKENS HOSPICE AND PALLIATIVE CARE CENTER. FAITH SERVES ALL OF THE METROPLEX WHILE THE HOSPICE IS WITHIN DALLAS. OUR VISION IS SIMPLE. IT'S TO BE THE INNOVATIVE PARTNER THAT EMPOWERS INDIVIDUALS TO THRIVE. OUR MISSION IS ALSO SIMPLE. IT IS TO MAKE EACH MOMENT MATTER FOR THOSE WE SERVE. WE ARE A FAITH BASED ORGANIZATION AND OUR VALUES ARE DIVERSITY, INTEGRITY, STEWARDSHIP AND COMPASSION. AND WITH THE INTEGRITY, TRANSPARENCY. AND I PROMISE YOU TONIGHT WILL BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE AS WE'VE BEEN THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE PRIMER ON THE CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY, CCRC, AS WE CALL IT, A RESIDENT MUST MEET THE AGE QUALIFICATION OF AT LEAST 62 YEARS OF AGE AND HAVE INCOME AND ASSETS TO QUALIFY FOR THE FEE. STRUCTURE. A CONTINUUM OF CARE INDICATES MULTIPLE LEVELS OF LIVING. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT INDEPENDENT LIVING, A VERY SMALL ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY SUPPORT. THIS IS NOT A RENTAL ARRANGEMENT. THIS IS AN ENTRY FEE ARRANGEMENT IN RETURN FOR A ONE TIME REFUNDABLE ENTRY FEE. THE RESIDENT HAS LIFETIME USE OF THE COMMUNITY OR THE FACILITIES. [00:50:05] SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU'RE LOOKING RATHER THAN A RENTAL THAT HAS A SHORTER LENGTH OF STAY. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A 14 YEAR AVERAGE STAY OF A RESIDENT. SO THIS IS NOT A TRANSIENT SITUATION WHEN WE USE THE TERM COMMUNITY, IT'S VERY INTENTIONAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. SITE PROFILE I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THAT. I THINK AS WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND I DON'T THINK I KNOW AND WORKED ON PULLING TOGETHER A PROJECT. THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITE. THE FLOODPLAIN REDUCES A BUILDABLE AREA. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT SLOPE, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS IT'S IDEAL FOR SENIOR LIVING. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO EMBRACE ALL OF THE NUANCES OF THE SITE, AND WE HAVE BEEN TOLD, AND I THINK AND AGREE, THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST USES FOR THIS SITE OR THE MOST VIABLE USE FOR IT THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED SO FAR. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE EVOLUTION OF THE COMMUNITY, WE BEGAN ATTENDING CORRIDOR SPIN MEETINGS. THE VERY FIRST ITERATION OF WHAT WE PRESENTED WAS ROUGHLY 120 TO 160 INDEPENDENT LIVING RESIDENCES, 36 INDEPENDENT LIVING COTTAGES, AND ALMOST 60 ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY CARE. SO ABOUT 11.98 OR 12 RESIDENCES PER ACRE. WE WERE ADVISED AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT THAT WAS TOO DENSE, TOO MUCH. SO WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND CAME BACK WITH THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION THAT YOU HAVE NOW, WHICH IS 158 INDEPENDENT LIVING. 20 INDEPENDENT LIVING COTTAGES, 32 ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY CARE RESIDENCES. SO 16 EACH OF THOSE WHICH IS JUST SHY OF TEN RESIDENCES PER ACRE. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS THE POINT WHERE WE BEGAN GETTING FEEDBACK ABOUT BUILDING HEIGHT, ABOUT THE MASS OF THE BUILDING. YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY, WITH THE SLOPE, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO LOCATE PARKING UNDERGROUND. BUT IT WAS FOUR STOREYS ON A PARKING DECK. WE HAD SIGNIFICANT COMMENTARY ABOUT THAT IN MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS. AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO ELONGATE THE BUILDING AND BRING THE MASS DOWN. AND I THINK THE HOPE OF THAT WAS TO ELIMINATE THE COTTAGES, TOO, BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE. HOWEVER, WHAT IT ALLOWED US TO DO IS COME BACK WITH THIS SITE PLAN WHERE WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO ELONGATE THE BUILDING. WE'LL TALK IN A MINUTE ABOUT HOW WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF FLOORS, BUT ALSO RELOCATE SOME OF THE COTTAGES CLOSER TO THE CREEK AREA TO CREATE MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL OR A HOME LIKE BARRIER BETWEEN THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES. SO THIS IS WHAT WE SUBMITTED AND THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED. WE RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK. I THINK DENSITY ALL ALONG WAS A COMMENT. SO THE REDUCTION FROM 252 TO 210 RESIDENCES HEIGHT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT AS WE LOOKED AT THE REDUCTION IN HEIGHT AND THE NUMBER OF FLOORS. TRAFFIC WAS A BIG CONSIDERATION AND A BIG FEAR. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL INCREASE ON DAVIS BOULEVARD IN PARTICULAR, AND THE DANGER THAT IT MAY PRESENT TO SENIORS. THE STUDIES THAT WE CONDUCTED AND THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT, P&Z, REALLY INDICATED THAT THIS DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT TRAFFIC. THIS POPULATION IS IT'S A LOWER DENSITY AND NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS LIVING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S ABOUT A 1.3 VERSUS TYPICALLY IN SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT BEFORE PER RESIDENTS. AND AGAIN WITH THE TREES, WE FOLLOWED THE CITY TREE REQUIREMENTS, BUT ALSO HAVE ADDED AN EVERGREEN BARRIER ALONG THE WETLAND AREA AGAIN TO PROTECT VIEWS. THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT CAR LIGHTS AND PARKING AND OTHER THINGS AND SEEING INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND I KNOW OUR RESIDENTS DON'T WANT TO SEE THE OTHER WAY. SO THERE WAS AN ADDITION OF REALLY A A LIVING WALL OF EVERGREENS AND AGAIN, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU WILL NOT SEE A LOT OF SURFACE PARKING. MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE PARKING UNDERNEATH THE COMMUNITY, AND THE HOMES ACTUALLY HAVE TWO CAR GARAGES. AND EMPLOYEE PARKING WAS MOVED AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCIES TO THE MORE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THE SITE. SO I THINK IF WE LOOK AT DENSITY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THESE TWO CHARTS. [00:55:02] FIRST NUMBER OF RESIDENCES WERE REDUCED BASED ON THE INITIAL CORRIDOR FEEDBACK. OCCUPANCY, I SAID EARLIER, IS AT 1.3 VERSUS A POTENTIAL OF 3 TO 4 INDIVIDUALS PER RESIDENCE. THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCES THAT ARE PLANNED ARE WHAT WE CONSIDER THE NUMBER OF MINIMUM. OF RESIDENTS TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THE LEVEL OF AMENITIES AND SERVICES EXPECTED BY AFFLUENT SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS. SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT, I'M TALKING ABOUT INDOOR SWIMMING POOL, MULTIPLE DINING VENUES, EXERCISE AND FITNESS AREAS, OUTDOOR TRAILS THAT WILL HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY CONNECT TO THE PARK SYSTEM. IN THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED FOR THIS CITY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT A COMPARISON, WE'VE GOT A COMPARISON HERE OF THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT AT 12 COMING DOWN TO JUST UNDER TEN. AND THEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION WAS HAD ABOUT WATER MIRROR, WHICH IS WITHIN REALLY VISUAL DISTANCE OF THIS COMMUNITY AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. SO THIS COMMUNITY IS PLANNED AT TEN RESIDENCES PER ACRE. WATER MIRROR SITS AT 12.32 PER ACRE. SO WE TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT SOMETHING LOOMING OVER THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS SECTION AS WELL. OOP. WRONG ONE. SORRY. DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS, JANELLE? SURE. SO THIS REALLY IS JUST EXHIBITING THE SIGNIFICANT HEIGHT REDUCTION THAT WAS THAT WE WENT THROUGH. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE YELLOW AREA, THAT'S A VERY LARGE PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS BROUGHT DOWN. ONE FULL STORY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE LINE HERE IN FRONT OF DAVIS, AGAIN, WE ADJUSTED THAT HEIGHT, BROUGHT THAT FROM THREE STORY TO TWO. AND THEN IN THE VERY BACK ON THE WEST LOCATION, THIS WAS ACTUALLY DROPPED TWO STORIES. AND THEN I JUST WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT THIS SECTION RIGHT IN HERE REMAINS FOUR STORY. AND THAT WOULD BE ONLY ABOUT 3% OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT LOCATION AND IN THE VERY MIDDLE OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS WAS ALREADY MENTIONED. BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY SHOW EXHIBIT HERE IS THAT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE, BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN, THIS IS THE EDGE OF OUR PROPERTY. BUT IF WE TOOK THAT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE EDGE OF THE WEST NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE FROM THE ELEVATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY, EVEN HERE AT THE AT THE CENTER OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO NOT ONLY HAVE I THINK THAT EXHIBITS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD THIS WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE OR MINIMAL VISIBILITY AND ALSO WOULD NOT BE LOOMING OVER ANY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT AS WELL. THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT YOU KNOW, SECLUSION AND PRIVACY AS WELL. AND WE DID A NUMBER OF IMPACT STUDIES, AND THERE WAS A COMMENT DURING P&Z THAT WE TOOK VERY SERIOUSLY, THAT YOU COULD TAKE A PICTURE FROM ANYWHERE TO PROVE ANY POINT YOU WANTED TO PROVE. SO IN ORDER TO BRING SOME CLARITY, THE YELLOW LINE IS WHERE THE BUILDING WOULD EXIST. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TREES, THIS RED ARROW RIGHT HERE IS WHERE THIS WAS TAKEN IN THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH A SERIES OF THESE. THIS IS TO THE WEST. AND AGAIN THE ARROW INDICATES WHERE THE SIGHT LINES ARE. THEN WE'RE GOING FURTHER BACK AND YOU'LL SEE THE SIGHT LINES AGAIN. AND THIS IS FROM ABOUT 1000FT ACROSS THE LAKE. SO YOU BEGIN TO SEE THE TOPS, THE VERY TOP OF THAT 3% AREA THAT JANELLE JUST MENTIONED. THERE ARE ALSO DRONE PHOTOS THAT JUST BECAUSE OF TIMING TONIGHT WE DIDN'T INCLUDE HERE BUT ARE IN THE APPENDICES AND THOSE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN TWO DAYS AGO. THAT WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD INDICATION OF HEIGHT AND EVEN HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE SEEN. BUT THE MAP WOULD REFER TO WHERE THIS WAS TAKEN ON THE SITE. JANELLE, YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THESE? I THINK WE JUST WENT THROUGH THESE, ACTUALLY. YEAH. THE ONLY THING I WAS REALLY GOING TO MENTION, I'LL JUST GO BACK TO THIS ONE REAL QUICK IS AGAIN YOU KNOW, WE TOOK A LOT OF EFFORT INTO MAKING SURE THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REALLY FIT THE COMMUNITY OF SOUTHLAKE. AND THE QUALITY OF FINISHES HERE IS 80% MASONRY. AND THEN AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT ELEVATION OR THAT HEIGHT CHANGE HERE. ALONG DAVIS. AND THESE YOU SAW AS WELL. BUT WE JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT IN THE SOUTHWEST AND NORTHWEST VIEWS HERE, THESE ARE REALLY WHAT OUR RESIDENTS WILL SEE THAT WILL BE LIVING THERE. [01:00:06] AND SO AS THEY'RE TRAVERSING BACK YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S THE BUFFER OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND THE COTTAGES AND AGAIN EXHIBITING WHERE WE HAVE REDUCED THE BUILDING HEIGHT FROM THE BACK. SO FOREFRONT REALLY STRIVES TO BE A PARTNER IN THE COMMUNITIES WHERE WE HAVE SENIOR LIVING, AND WE REALLY WANT TO SUPPORT AND BE A RESOURCE TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS COMMUNITY, THIS PROPOSED PROJECT ALIGNS WITH AT LEAST FIVE INITIATIVES FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS PLAN. IT ALSO MEETS THE COMP PLAN OF THE LAND USE FOR MIXED USE. AND THEN I THINK IT WAS ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE WILL HAVE A TRAIL IN THE BACK BY THE FLOODPLAIN AREA AND THAT WE PLAN TO YOU KNOW, THAT CAN CONNECT TO SOUTHLAKE CITY TRAIL SYSTEM AND SOME FUTURE DATE. AND THEN WE ALSO WILL BE SUPPORTING THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMISSION. WE'VE ALREADY MET SOME OF THE FOLKS THERE AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM. ANOTHER ASPECT IS WE LIKE TO SUPPORT ALSO THE LOCAL SCHOOLS. SO, FOR CARROLL ISD HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, WE HAVE INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS, WE HAVE VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS, INTERGENERATIONAL PROGRAMS WITH SENIORS, AND POSSIBLE JOB OPPORTUNITIES. WE MET WITH THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM LAST WEEK TO TALK OVER OUR ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE RESIDENTS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO SHOP AND DINE AND UTILIZE SERVICES HERE IN SOUTHLAKE, SPENDING MONEY SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES ALONG WITH THE EMPLOYEES THAT WITH THE NEWLY CREATED JOBS. ALSO WHEN THE COMMUNITY IS AT STABILIZATION, WE WILL BE SPENDING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT ON GOODS AND SERVICES RIGHT HERE IN SOUTHLAKE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. THAT WOULD BE THINGS LIKE FROM COSTCO, LOWE'S, HOME DEPOT PRINTING, GENERAL CONTRACTORS, JUST TO NAME A FEW, AND OF COURSE, AS RESIDENTS MOVE IN FROM SOUTHLAKE, THOSE HOMES WOULD BE OPEN FOR YOUNGER RESIDENTS, POTENTIALLY WITH FAMILIES TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN ENROLLMENT. AND THEN ONE THING WE DID DISCUSS WITH THE DIRECTOR WAS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY HERE, AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD. IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, WE WILL BE LEASING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS THROUGH THE THAT WILL BE OUR MARKETING CENTER. AND WE'LL BE LEASING THAT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AND THROUGH THE FILL UP. AND THEN LASTLY, FOREFRONT WILL WORK WITH THE CITY TO MINIMIZE ANY FINANCIAL IMPACT THE COMMUNITY MIGHT BEAR USING THE COMMUNITY SERVICES HERE OR THE CITY SERVICES TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY Y SOUTHLAKE INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WE JUST OPENED THE OUTLOOK AT WINDHAVEN IN PLANO, AND WE DISCOVERED EARLY ON THAT WE HAD A NUMBER OF SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS COMING TO PLANO LOOKING AT IT, BUT NOT WANTING TO LEAVE SOUTHLAKE. IN FACT, WE HAD AN EVENT HERE AND HAD 30 INDIVIDUALS SHOW UP AND EXPRESS INTEREST. WE WERE HOPING FOR THE OUTLOOK IN PLANO, BUT YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WAS, CAN YOU BUILD SOMETHING IN SOUTHLAKE? SUBSEQUENTLY, WE'VE HAD TWO MORE OF THOSE MEETINGS WITH AS MANY INDIVIDUALS THERE AND CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THAT FEEDBACK. AND AS WE DID OUR HOMEWORK AND WE LOOKED AT SOUTHLAKE, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH CAPACITY IN SOUTHLAKE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF SOUTHLAKE SENIORS. THE SOUTHLAKE SENIOR POPULATION, AGE 65 AND ABOVE, IS PROJECTED TO GROW BY 30% BY 2029. SO, AND IF YOU LOOK AT 2030, AN INTERESTING STATISTIC IS THAT IS THE YEAR WHERE THERE WILL BE MORE INDIVIDUALS IN THIS COUNTRY OVER THE AGE OF 65 THAN UNDER THE AGE OF 65. I WAS STRUCK EARLIER WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE PHOTOS FROM THE 80S AND HEARING SOME OF THE STORIES ABOUT THE PLANNING AND ABOUT THE CREATION OF A COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO STAY IN AND DON'T WANT TO LEAVE, AND IS THE ENVY OF OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE METROPLEX. I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM THE SENIORS THAT LIVE HERE, THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY THE TRUTH, AND THEY WANT TO STAY HERE. WE WANT TO CREATE AND WE WILL CREATE A VALUED ASSET, A LONG TERM ASSET. WE'RE NOT BUILDING SOMETHING TO SELL. WE ALIGN WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE AND STRATEGIC PLANS. WE ADDRESS THE DESIRES OF SOUTHLAKE SENIORS TO REMAIN IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE AS THEY AGE. YOU KNOW, EARLIER COMMENTS WERE THAT THIS WAS NOT NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE FOR WHERE IT IS THAT SENIORS BELONGED ALONG 114 BUT WE FEEL THAT SENIORS DESERVE TO MAINTAIN THEIR LIFESTYLE IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING RATHER THAN LIVING ALONG A FRONTAGE ROAD. [01:05:05] SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING CASE AND WE ARE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, THOUGHTS? WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. OH GO AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME OR DISCUSSION? WE MIGHT HAVE SOME AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE AUDIENCE, BUT SO STICK AROUND. OF COURSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM SEVEN A DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE IT'S A FIRST READING. BUT I CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. SO WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM SEVEN A. I HAVE SOME COMMENT CARDS. SOME HAVE BEEN MARKED THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. YOU CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK. OR IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND AND DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, THAT'S FINE. ON THE OTHER SIDE, IF YOU'VE SUBMITTED A COMMENT CARD AND YOU INDICATED YOU DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND, YOU CAN CERTAINLY COME UP AND I'LL JUST CALL NAMES AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE AND I'LL TRY MY BEST ON THE PRONUNCIATIONS. AND I APPRECIATE THOSE WITH THE GOOD PENMANSHIP BECAUSE IT MAKES MY JOB A LOT EASIER. BUT LET'S START WITH L NICHOLS AT 1017 WEST MURPHY. WE'LL SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. THEN ONCE YOU GET TO THE PODIUM IF YOU COULD AGAIN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, EVEN THOUGH I JUST DID IT. WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIMING SYSTEM. THE LIGHT WILL TURN GREEN TO START YOUR TIME. WHEN IT GETS TO YELLOW, THAT MEANS ONE MINUTE IS LEFT. AND THEN WHEN IT TURNS RED. IF YOU COULD WRAP UP YOUR COMMENT AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. SO THE MICROPHONE IS YOURS. IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. WINONA NICHOLS, 1017 WEST MURPHY, COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS. HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY. ACTUALLY, HAVING THE PRESENTATION BY FOREFRONT, THEY COVERED PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO SAY AND BASICALLY MY INTEREST IN THIS IS I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH TRYING TO HELP A SENIOR FROM COLLEYVILLE FIND A PLACE TO LIVE, SOLD THEIR PROPERTY, AND I CHOSE DISCOVERY. AND DISCOVERY IS SIMILAR TO THIS IN THAT IT HAS THAT PROGRESSIVE HOME WHERE YOU CAN START OUT AS AN INDEPENDENT AND THEN GO THROUGH ASSISTED GO THROUGH EITHER MEMORY CARE OR A NURSING HOME RIGHT ON IN. SO I WAS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO STAY. THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU PLACE A SENIOR IN A PROPERTY THAT JUST HAS ONE FACILITY TYPE, THEN AS PROGRESSION GOES ON, YOU HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER FACILITY TYPE. BUT I REALLY WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK FOREFRONT WILL BE GREAT FOR ASSISTING SENIORS IN THEIR TRANSITION. IT APPEALS TO THE CURRENT SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS AND IT KEEPS THEM CLOSE TO, AS I SAID, FRIENDS, FAMILY, COMMUNITY, THINGS THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH. AND THE LADY I WAS WORKING WITH, THAT WAS ONE THING SHE WANTED TO STAY AROUND IN THIS COMMUNITY SO THAT BECAUSE SHE KNEW WHERE THE STORES WERE, SHE KNEW WHERE TO GO. SHE KNEW WHERE HER FRIENDS WERE AND HER CHURCH FOR THINGS THOUGH, THAT THAT REALLY IMPRESSED ME ABOUT FOREFRONT. I DID GO TO ONE OF THEIR PRESENTATIONS WAS THAT THEY ARE FAITH BASED AND IN LOOKING AT FACILITIES, FAITH BASED WAS IMPORTANT. THEIR NONPROFIT, WHICH IS HUGE. THEY'RE NOT INTO HAVE MONEY RAISED PRICES. YOU KNOW, JUST A CONTINUAL UPTICK ON THAT TO HELP SENIORS MAINTAIN THEIR LIFE OF MONEY. THEY ALSO PROVIDE THE RESIDENTS WITH THAT CONTINUED CARE, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. BUT THEY HAVE A LITTLE NUANCE IN THERE THAT THEY HAVE A SITUATION THAT THEY PROVIDE FOR THEIR SENIORS AND THEIR OPPORTUNITIES OF THEIR COMPLEX, THAT THEY WILL NOT OUTLIVE THEIR MONEY. SO THEY HAVE A FUND THAT IS SET THERE SO THAT THE SENIORS, IF THEY DO GET TO THE PLACE WHERE THEY DO NOT HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS, THEY ASSIST THEM, WHICH IS VERY UNIQUE. I KNOW PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, THE THE NOISE IMPACT, BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT, THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ANY USE OF THAT LAND. IT COULD BE RESTAURANTS, IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE. THE LAND. YOU'RE THE OWNERS OF, THE LAND, THEY'RE KIND OF HELD HOSTAGES. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THIS LAND? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? AND THIS SENIOR FOREFRONT? IT'S A NICE, QUIET COMMUNITY. IT OFFERS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO USE THAT, AND IT PROVIDES EXCELLENCE FOR WHAT SOUTHLAKE PROVIDES TO THEIR SENIORS. AND IN CLOSING, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS BECAUSE AS A SENIOR THAT LIVES IN COLLEYVILLE AND IN THIS COMMUNITY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I MIGHT, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO HAVE ONE DAY. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY AT A FACILITY LIKE FOREFRONT. IT APPEALS TO ME GREATLY, AS I THINK IT WILL TO A LOT OF SOUTHLAKE, KELLER AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN SUCH A NICE COMPLEX. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I AM IN FAVOR OF THE FOREFRONT. WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT UP IS DAVE HOWELL AT 625. SOUTHVIEW TRAIL WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. COME ON DOWN, SIR. AGAIN, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, EVEN THOUGH I JUST DID IT. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES. I AM DAVE HOWELL AT 625 SOUTHVIEW TRAIL. [01:10:04] I SAW YOU GUYS LATEST VIDEO ON FACEBOOK TOUTING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN SOUTHLAKE, AND I LIKE THAT. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE FOR 31 YEARS. WHERE YOU GUYS ARE SITTING WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF FISHTOWN FARM WHEN WE MOVED HERE. THINGS HAVE CHANGED FOR THE BETTER. OUR FAMILY HAS GROWN UP HERE. OUR DAUGHTER. K THROUGH 12 HAS ALWAYS BEEN A DRAGON. WE'VE BEEN HERE SO LONG THAT HER ESCORT AT HOMECOMING WAS A YOUNG FOOTBALL PLAYER NAMED RILEY DODGE. WHO'S NOW THE HEAD COACH. WE LOVE IT HERE. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DOWNSIZE. AND WE'VE LOOKED AND WE'VE LOOKED, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE SOUTHLAKE. IT'S GOT EVERYTHING. IT'S GOT SHOPS. IT'S GOT ATHLETICS. GREAT ATHLETICS. AND IT'S GOT AS WE AGE. WE FIND IT HAS OUR DOCTORS, WHICH BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT THE OLDER WE GET. AND IF YOU TALK TO A REAL ESTATE AGENT, I'LL BET THEY'LL TELL YOU THAT EMPTY NESTERS HERE IN SOUTHLAKE DON'T LEAVE LIKE THEY DO IN OTHER AREAS. IN THE METROPLEX. THEY STAY BECAUSE THEY LIKE IT HERE. I THINK THAT FOREFRONT WILL ACTUALLY HELP THE CARROLL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, BECAUSE THE MONEY THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS IS DRIVEN BY ENROLLMENT. WHEN MY WIFE AND I MOVE OUT OF HERE, TWO OTHER OLD PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO MOVE IN. I'LL BET YOU IT'LL BE A FAMILY AND THEY WILL HAVE KIDS THAT WILL GO TO SCHOOL HERE, AND THAT WILL ENROLLMENT IS DOLLARS TO THE CARROLL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. ALSO, WHEN WE MOVE IN, A NEW FAMILY MOVES IN. THEY'LL START PAYING TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES, ET CETERA. AND FOLKS LIKE ME HAVE THE 65 EXEMPTION. THE NEW PEOPLE THAT COME IN, I'LL BET YOU THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE 65 OR OLDER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE YOUNGER. AND TO THOSE OPPONENTS OF FOREFRONT, I WOULD JUST REMIND THEM OF TWO THINGS. THEY'RE GOING TO GET OLD IF THEY'RE LUCKY, AND IF THEY'RE LUCKY, THERE'LL BE A PLACE LIKE FOREFRONT THEY CAN GO TO. AND THE OTHER THING TO REMIND THEM OF IS SOMETHING IS GOING TO GO THERE, AND A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHOSE NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTIES ARE OVER AT 09:00 PM ARE NOT BAD NEIGHBORS. I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL LOOK FAVORABLY ON FOUR FRONTS. PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. NEXT UP IS JIM JANOWIAK. 2812 RIVER BROOK HERE IN SOUTHLAKE WILL SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. COME ON DOWN, SIR. THANK YOU. JIM [INAUDIBLE], 2812 RIVER BROOK WAY, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE DECEMBER OF 1998, SO NOT QUITE AS LONG AS THE PREVIOUS PERSON, BUT 25 YEARS. COUNTS FOR LITTLE. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE PREVIOUS PERSON SAID. AND HE TOOK ONE OF TWO THINGS THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, AND THAT'S THAT US OLD FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PLACE TO GO, AND THAT'S KIND OF BY DESIGN. THERE'S BEEN A BIG CONCERN ABOUT DENSITY, BUT ONCE WE WENT FROM OUR 4000 SQUARE FOOT HOME IN TIMBERON TO OUR 2700 SQUARE FOOT HOME JUST SOUTH OF WATER MIRROR. STILL IN SOUTH LAKE THOUGH. THE NEXT STAGE OF 1800 SQUARE FEET DOESN'T FIT WHAT MOST SUBDIVISIONS ARE APPROVED FOR. THEY'RE FOR 2500 OR MORE. A FACILITY LIKE FOREFRONT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE A SMALLER PLACE TAKEN CARE OF, SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CLIMBING ON THE ROOF TO PUT MY CHRISTMAS LIGHTS UP, OR WORRYING ABOUT THE LEAK THAT MIGHT BE UP THERE. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME PLACE TO GO RIGHT NOW AFTER YOU GET OUT OF YOUR 2500 SQUARE FOOT HOME. UNLESS YOU CAN GET IN WATER MIRROR, WHICH HAS A WAIT LIST, BY THE WAY, SO YOU CAN'T GET IN THERE RIGHT AWAY. YOUR OTHER CHOICES ARE ASSISTED LIVING OR NURSING HOME. THOSE FACILITIES DO EXIST IN SOUTHLAKE. SO I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THIS THING BY FOREFRONT, BUT THAT'S FOR ME. WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU? WELL, SOMETHING'S GOING TO GO HERE IN THIS PLACE. AND RIGHT NOW, IT'S MAJORITY RESIDENTIAL ESTATE. SO IF THIS DOESN'T GO THERE AND YOU HAVE BIG ESTATES, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE SWIMMING POOLS, THE TRAMPOLINES, POSSIBLE TENNIS COURTS, WHATEVER IT IS, THOSE ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME FOR THE NEXT GROUP, EVEN IF THEY STAY IN ESTATES, IF IT GOES TO [01:15:07] COMMERCIAL, AND I THINK IN THE FIRST PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, THEY MENTIONED THAT IT THEY'VE HAD SOME PROPOSITIONS AND NONE OF THEM HAVE FLOWN. IT'S GOING TO BE JUST AS NOISY. SO I SEE MY TIME IS UP. I ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS A PROPOSAL FROM FOREFRONT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. NEXT WE HAVE DEBBIE SCHNEIDER AT 2513 MARKET GROVE. LOOP WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM. SEVEN A, COME ON DOWN. HI, I'M DEBBIE SCHNEIDER AT 2513 PARK LOVE PARK GROVE LOOP IN SOUTHLAKE. I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE FOREFRONT LIVING DEVELOPMENT DUE TO THE SIZE, THE DENSITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT TYPE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SENIOR LIVING. I MEAN, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT WITH OUR PARENTS FOR SURE. IT JUST MUST BE LOCATED IN AN APPROPRIATE ZONED AREAS COMPATIBLE TO THE ADJOINING DEVELOPMENT. THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THE FOLLOWING ABOUT THE PROPERTY. FOREFRONT IS WANTING TO DEVELOP. THE SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT IS INTENDED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND USES USES SUCH AS LOW PROFILE OFFICE HEALTH OR OTHER IDENTIFIED TARGET RETAIL RESTAURANT USES AS IDENTIFIED IN THE ECONOMIC PLAN ARE ENCOURAGED. THE COTTAGES APPEAR TO BE REALLY SMALL AND ON TINY LOTS. THEY SEEM OUT OF PLACE BASED ON THE VALUE OF OUR NEIGHBORING HOMES. INTERESTINGLY, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING TO BUY A HOUSE HERE, EVERY REAL ESTATE AGENT THAT WE HAD SPOKE ABOUT THE SAME THING. SOUTHLAKE A BEAUTIFUL TOWN, GREAT HOME VALUES AND NO APARTMENTS. THE STAFF REPORT SAYS NEW DEVELOPMENT MUST BE COMPATIBLE WITH AND NOT INTRUSIVE TO EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THIS ANSWERS THE QUESTION THAT FOREFRONT DEVELOPMENT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR THIS TRACK OF LAND. WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT WE HAVE HENRY SCHNEIDER FROM 2513 PARK GROVE LOOP. WE'LL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM. HI. GOOD EVENING, HENRY SCHNEIDER, 2513 PARK GROVE LOOP. I AM ALSO OPPOSING THE FOREFRONT SENIOR LIVING DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE REQUESTS AND LAND PLAN. HOWEVER, I AM NOT OPPOSING SENIOR LIVING DEVELOPMENT WITHIN SOUTHLAKE, AND NONE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WE VISITED WITH ARE AGAINST IT EITHER. OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO DO WITH SIZE. I THINK REALLY THE BIGGEST IS REALLY THE SCALE AND THE DENSITY. I PRACTICED CIVIL ENGINEERING FOR 37 YEARS IN LAND DEVELOPMENT AND STILL DEAL WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, GENERALLY WE DON'T BUILD MASSIVE STRUCTURES NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL HOUSES. IT'S THE ENVY OF SOUTHLAKE. SO WE TRANSFERRED FROM THE HOUSTON METROPLEX. HOUSTON METROPLEX, THE EQUIVALENT TO SOUTHLAKE IS PARTS OF MEMORIAL. THE VILLAGES. THE LAND VALUES JUST GET GREATER AND GREATER. AND SO WE WANTED TO LIVE IN A GREAT PLACE. WE'VE MADE AN EXTENSIVE INVESTMENT JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAND VALUES. THE THE ISSUE THAT I SEE WITH IT IS, AGAIN, THE DENSITY AND THE HEIGHT. THEY SAY THEY'VE LOWERED IT, BUT THE THE BUILDING IS STILL LABELED ON THEIR DRAWINGS AS 75FT. SO YOU CAN CALL IT FOUR STORIES, BUT IT'S REALLY FIVE. THEY'VE BURIED THE PARKING GARAGE. THEY JUST BASICALLY PUSH UP DIRT TO MAKE IT. SO ON THE STONY BROOK SIDE, WE'RE ON THE LOW SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, SO THEY'RE EQUAL HEIGHT OR EVEN ABOVE US. AND SO THAT THAT BECOMES MORE OF THE ISSUE. THE DENSITY IS INTENSE. SO INTENSE THAT IT REQUIRES A PARKING GARAGE TO BEGIN WITH. IT'S A 24 OVER SEVEN OPERATION, AND SO IT'S AROUND THE CLOCK. I WAS THE ONE THAT ALSO BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE THE FACILITY MOVING TO STATE HIGHWAY 114 THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH. I THINK SENIORS NEEDED TO BE THERE. IT WAS THAT'S WHERE APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED. AND IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN I TOLD SOMEBODY IDEALLY MY WIFE AND I QUALIFY TO MOVE INTO INTO THE FACILITY, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT BUSINESS MODEL. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED IT ACTUALLY BE SITTING RIGHT HERE. I WOULD LOVE TO THINK I COULD WALK OUT OF MY DOOR AND WALK IN TO TOWN CENTER. THIS IS LIKE ONE OF THE MOST FABULOUS PLACES ON PLANET EARTH. I CAN I CAN GO EAT, I CAN SHOP, SIT AT COFFEE SHOPS, WALK AROUND ALL OF THE FESTIVALS AND EVERYTHING THAT GO ON HERE. [01:20:01] THAT'S THAT'S TO ME, THAT'S MY COMMENT IS, IS THE BUILDING JUST DOESN'T FIT IN THE SPACE. IT'S A LOSS OF HOME VALUE TO US BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY REFER TO IT AS APARTMENTS ON THEIR WEBSITE. AND SO PEOPLE WILL SEE IT AS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. THE TREES IN THE BUFFER ZONES, THEY THEY AREN'T GOING TO MAKE IT GO AWAY. SO THAT'S OUR CONCERN. WE'VE MADE A, A SIZABLE INVESTMENT TO LIVE HERE AND REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO IT. WE JUST GO AHEAD AND WRAP IT UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT WE HAVE DYLAN HOLMES AT ONE TWO, ONE EAST, STATE HIGHWAY 121, AND CAPELL WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM SEVEN A. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DYLAN HOLMES. MY ADDRESS IS 225 EAST STATE HIGHWAY, HIGHWAY 121, SUITE 120. COPPELL, TEXAS. I'M AN EMPLOYEE OF HOLMES BUILDERS. WE DEVELOPED STONY BROOK, WHICH BORDERS FOREFRONT ON THE WEST SIDE. WE OWN 11 LOTS REMAINING THERE. WE'RE BUILDING MULTIPLE HOUSES AND WE MANAGE THE STONY BROOK HOA. OUR EXPERIENCE WITH STONY BROOK, THE DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL PROCESS HERE OUR FIRST SUBMITTAL TO THIS COUNCIL IN 2017, WE SUBMITTED A 59 LOT COMMUNITY WITH 15,000 SQUARE FOOT. AVERAGE LOTS. IT WAS REJECTED. OUR SECOND SUBMITTAL WAS A 53 LOT COMMUNITY WITH 18,700 SQUARE FOOT AVERAGE LOTS. THAT WAS ALSO REJECTED. WE CAME BACK WITH OUR THIRD AND ACCEPTED SUBMITTAL, WHICH IS THE CURRENT 47 LOT COMMUNITY WITH 20 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT AVERAGE LOTS. SOMEONE SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE SOUTHLAKE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I'LL SPEAK TO GOAL ONE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT, OBJECTIVE 1.2 AND ENCOURAGES APPROPRIATE SCALED NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN THAT COMPLEMENTS EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WHILE CREATING UNIQUE PLACES. RECOGNIZING THAT THE QUALITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERED THIS MORE CLOSELY WHEN WE BROUGHT OUR FIRST AND SECOND SUBMITTAL ABOUT STONY BROOK. WE GOT A LOT OF NEIGHBORS REMINDING US AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. IT WAS TOO HIGH DENSITY COMPARED TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. THROUGHOUT THE CITY APPROVAL PROCESS, WE LEARNED ABOUT THESE OBJECTIVES AND IMPLEMENTED A LOWER DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE BUILDING THERE TODAY. DUE TO THE STARK CONTRAST THAT AN APARTMENT STYLE BUILDING POSES AGAINST THE EXISTING ADJACENT AND NEARBY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, I ASK THIS COUNCIL TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT WE HAVE ROGER LAYMAN AT 920 SOUTH PATTONVILLE AVENUE. WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. SEVEN A. GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. ROGER LAYMAN 920 SOUTH PATTONVILLE. I LIVE LESS THAN A MILE FROM THE PROPOSED SITE. SO TONIGHT I FEEL COMPELLED TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP OUR HOMETOWN FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS. OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS, SOUTHLAKE, PNC AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE OVERSEEN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ONE OF THE GREATEST SMALL TOWNS IN AMERICA. THAT'S NOT AN OVERSTATEMENT. IT TRULY IS. CITY COUNCIL ALLOWS A VERY FEW OBJECTING PARTIES TO STOP THE DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE IN THIS BUILDING. EVIDENTLY, IT WOULD BE IN A FIELD. WE WOULDN'T HAVE A BEAUTIFUL TOWN SQUARE. WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE WIDE BOULEVARDS. WE WOULDN'T HAVE WORLD CLASS SHOPPING AND RESTAURANTS. WE WOULDN'T HAVE HOSPITALS AND HOTELS. BUT WE DO, BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL FOLLOWED THROUGH ON A VISION TO SEE WHAT SOUTHLAKE COULD BECOME. WE GOT TO KEEP SHAPING SOUTHLAKE FOR THE BETTER. THAT INCLUDES THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR AGING POPULATION, SO THAT IN THE YEARS TO COME, WE CAN AFFORD, OR WE CAN OFFER OUR SOUTHLAKE SENIORS A PLACE TO AGE GRACEFULLY AND CLOSE TO HOME. AND I'M INCLUDING MYSELF, I DON'T I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE LESS THAN A MILE AWAY WHEN I'M IN MY 70S. FOR THOSE ARGUING AGAINST OR ARGUING THAT THERE IS SENIOR LIVING OPTIONS, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. WE NEED MORE AND WE NEED MORE COMPETITION IN THE SPACE. THIS PROPOSED FACILITY ALLOWS ANOTHER CHOICE FOR SOUTHLAKE SENIORS TO REMAIN LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH DIGNITY AND PURPOSE. IT AFFORDS US. IT AFFORDS THOSE OF US WITH PARENTS WHO ARE STILL LIVING AN OPTION TO BRING THEM BACK CLOSER TO US, BECAUSE THEY HAD TO MOVE FURTHER AWAY. [01:25:01] MY MOTHER IN LAW LIVES ALMOST 30 MINUTES AWAY. OUR AGING RESIDENTS ARE THE VERY ONES THAT WE WANT TO STAY IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE WANT THEM AROUND. WE WANT THEM TO GREET US AT CHURCH, TO MANAGE THE VOTING POLLS, TO FILL THE SEATS AT OUR CHARITY EVENTS, AND TO BE A PART OF OUR LIVES DAY TO DAY. SO DO WE FORCE THEM OUT OF OUR HOMETOWN JUST BECAUSE A PRECIOUS FEW OR OPPOSING SENIOR CARE DEVELOPMENT. WE NEED TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR SOUTHLAKE AND I'M SURE THAT YOU WILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT IS GREG MILOSEVIC AT 804 CARRIAGE COURT HERE IN SOUTHLAKE WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM SEVEN A. IT'S NOT AN EASY NAME TO GET RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS WELL DONE. THANK YOU. GREG MILOSEVIC, 804 CARRIAGE COURT. I JUST HAVE A STORY OF MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WHO CAN'T FIND HOUSING FOR HIS MOTHER WHEN THEY MOVED HERE. SO THEY HAD TO BUY A BIGGER HOUSE SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE A ROOM FOR HER, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A GROWING DEMAND AND A LACK OF SUPPLY. SO I JUST THINK THIS IS A NO BRAINER, AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROGRAM. AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY SAID IN FAVOR OF THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT IS RAMAN ARORA. 2532 PARK GROVE LOOP HERE IN SOUTHLAKE WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS RAYMOND ARORA. 2532 PARK GROVE LOOP. MY PROPERTY LIES WITHIN 250FT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO STATE MY OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT. ALTHOUGH I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES IN THE AREA. THE PROPOSED LOCATION MAY NOT BE THE. I MAY NOT BE IDEAL, ESPECIALLY AT THE SCALE AND DENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROJECT HAS PREVIOUSLY STATED THAT THE PROJECT WOULD NOT BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE IF THEY WERE TO REDUCE DENSITY. FURTHER, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT OUR SUBDIVISION, STONY BROOK, STILL HAS LOTS AVAILABLE FOR SALE. THE DEVELOPER HOMES BUILDERS WOULD STRUGGLE TO SELL THE REMAINING LOTS WITH THIS LARGE BUILDING IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY. SO WHAT ABOUT THE ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY OF THEIR PROJECT, WHICH IS ALREADY APPROVED AND IN PROGRESS? NOT TO MENTION THE VALUES OF OUR HOMES THAT MAY DEPRECIATE DUE TO THIS. ADDITIONALLY. ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COUNCIL THAT WITH THE PROPOSED 200 PLUS UNIT DEVELOPMENT AT AN AVERAGE OF TWO RESIDENTS PER UNIT, THERE WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 400 PLUS POTENTIAL SENIORS LIVING IN THIS FACILITY AT THREE MEALS A DAY. WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER 1200 MEALS PREPARED AND SERVED DAILY, NOT COUNTING THE STAFF. BEING A RESTAURANT OWNER, I KNOW HOW MUCH ORGANIC TRASH AND FOOD WASTE SUCH A PRODUCTION CAN CREATE. I'M QUITE CERTAIN WE WILL BE HAVING ODOR AND RODENT ISSUES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE COMING YEARS. BEING SO CLOSE TO IT, SUCH A FACILITY IS NOT SUITABLE TO BE NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO STRONGLY URGE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO RECONSIDER THE LOCATION OF THIS PROJECT OR AT THE VERY LEAST, LIMIT THE DENSITY SO THAT THE ECONOMIC HARDSHIP CAN BE REDUCED AND DIVIDED BETWEEN ALL THE CONCERNED PARTIES, ALONG WITH ENSURING MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT WE HAVE CATHY BETHAM AT 2600 PARK GROVE. LOOP WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU. I'M CATHY BETHUNE, BUILDING A HOME AT 2600 PARK GROVE. I'M A 65 PLUS SENIOR MOVING INTO THE AREA. I SPENT THE LAST EIGHT YEARS HELPING CARE FOR MY PARENTS WHILE THEY TRANSITIONED THROUGH SEVERAL STAGES OF CARE IN A FAITH BASED SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY. SO I KNOW THAT THESE COMMUNITIES DO PROVIDE A WONDERFUL SERVICE, AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR MORE SENIOR LIVING OPTIONS HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. THE ISSUE I AND OTHER HOMEOWNERS HAVE IS PUTTING SOMETHING THIS LARGE IN AN AREA WITH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING IT. THE CITY'S LAND USE OBJECTIVES AND CORRIDOR PLAN FOR THIS AREA HAVE ALREADY BEEN STATED, BUT SPECIFICALLY I WANT TO CALL OUT BUILDINGS THAT ARE CONSISTENT AND COMPLEMENT EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE LOW PROFILE AND THAT PRESERVE PROPERTY VALUES. THE P AND Z CHAIR MENTIONED, HARBORCHASE, WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND ULTIMATELY MOVED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION. HARBORCHASE IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY WITH MANY TREES AND GREEN SPACES, AND IT'S ONLY TWO STORIES IN THE FRONT AND THREE ON THE BACK, MUCH SMALLER THAN THIS. I DO ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S NOT INDEPENDENT LIVING. [01:30:01] WHILE I REALLY APPRECIATE THE MODIFICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN, THE SCALE OF THE MAIN BUILDING IS STILL MASSIVE AND OUT OF PROPORTION TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, AND ALL THE PICTURES AND VIEWS YOUR SINGER WITH THE TREES FULLY LEAFED OUT. I STRUGGLE TO SEE ANYTHING THIS LARGE ON DAVIS OR SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARDS, AND IT WOULD BE MISREPRESENTING THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD AT OUR MEETING WITH FOREFRONT TO SAY WE FELT THIS SOLVED ALL OF OUR ISSUES. I DO FEEL LIKE SOMEWHAT WE AS HOMEOWNERS ARE BEING MADE TO LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUYS, BUT MANY OF US PURCHASED LOTS IN STONY BROOK WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND WE DESIRE TO PRESERVE OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND THE BEAUTIFUL, PEACEFUL VIBE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SOME OF US THAT ARE MOVING FROM OUTSIDE SOUTHLAKE INTO THIS AREA HAVE NEVER HEARD OF SPIN OR QUARTER MEETINGS WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR LOTS. FOREFRONT HAD BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY FOR THEM TO ENGAGE WITH AND INFORM THE THREE BUILDERS FOR STONY BROOK, BUT THEY DID NOT. HAD THE BUILDERS KNOWN OF THIS PROJECT, SOME OF US MIGHT HAVE MADE DIFFERENT DECISIONS. WE KEEP BEING TOLD THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN MORTIMER, BUT WE KNEW ABOUT WATER MIRROR WHEN WE CHOSE OUR LOTS. WHAT ARE THE ODDS IN SOUTHLAKE THAT WE COULD END UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD BOOKENDED BY TWO TALL, HIGH DENSITY SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES? I DO BELIEVE THIS WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND THE ABILITY OF HOMES TO CONTINUE TO SELL LOTS. FOREFRONTS NEW PROPERTY IN PLANO HAS BEEN MENTIONED AND IT IS VERY NICE, BUT SOUTHLAKE DOES NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THAT AREA OF PLANO. THAT PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY VACANT LAND, APARTMENT BUILDINGS, A CITY PARK, AND A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH HOMES. IT IS ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF FROM THE TOLLWAY, SO YOU CAN SEE MULTI-STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS FROM THAT PROPERTY, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT PROPERTY FROM THE TOLLWAY. I SEE THAT YOUR TIME IS UP, SO IF YOU COULD WRAP IT UP, THAT'D BE GREAT. I JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER THE VIEWS OF THE HOMEOWNERS. AND IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS, AS RAYMOND SAID, CONSIDER REDUCING THE DENSITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE JOE CONIGLIO AT 814 SHORECREST DRIVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE WILL SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING. JOE CONIGLIO 814 SHORECREST DRIVE. IT IS. I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO BE HERE. WE'VE COVERED A LOT OF GROUND, SO I'LL TRY TO YOU KNOW, FOCUS MY COMMENTS. I WILL SAY THIS. I HAVE A UNIQUE VANTAGE POINT. I'VE, LIKE YOU, RAISED OUR FAMILY HERE. I LIVE IN TIMBERLAKE, AND FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS, I HAVE HAD THE HONOR OF LIVING IN SOUTHLAKE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE LOVED ABOUT SOUTHLAKE IS THE GREAT CARE THAT IT TAKES WITH HOW THE COMMUNITY GROWS. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE IN CONNECTION WITH THAT. I'M ALSO ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO I WORKED AS A HEALTH CARE CORPORATE ATTORNEY, AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH FOREFRONT LIVING, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING AS OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR THEM ON DIFFERENT CORPORATE REGULATORY MATTERS AND SERVING THEIR BOARD AS COUNSEL FOR THE LAST 14, ALMOST 15 YEARS. SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT AS A CITIZEN OF SOUTHLAKE THAT UNDERSTANDS WHAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN BUILT ON AND THE FORETHOUGHT THAT'S GONE INTO IT. WE ALL NEED TO BE VERY SELECTIVE WHEN WE GO INTO ANY TYPE OF PROJECT, MUCH LESS ONE THAT IS LIKE THIS. I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THOSE THAT HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT ON A PIECE OF LAND THAT'S NEXT TO THEIR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S A REASON WHY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE REVIEWED ALL THIS AND HEARD ALL OF THESE SAME DISCUSSIONS, AND THEY APPROVED THIS FROM A PLANNING AND ZONING STANDPOINT. AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE AT THAT TIME WAS THAT THIS SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON PLANNING FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE AND IS SOMETHING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY IN THE SAME POSITION A YEAR AND A HALF AGO BEFORE MY MOTHER PASSED. WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE FOR HER TO COME LIVE, AND WE WERE UNIQUELY LOOKING AROUND THOSE OPTIONS, AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING AT THAT TIME. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW. AND I THINK EVERYONE APPRECIATES THAT SENIOR LIVING AND THE SENIOR COMMUNITY OFFERING IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE DENSITY DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE HAD BEEN HAD IN THE PAST. AND LASTLY, I'LL SAY, I KNOW THAT AS SOMEONE THAT'S LIVED IN SOUTHLAKE AND SOMEONE THAT'S WORKED WITH FOREFRONT LIVING, THIS IS THE IDEAL PARTNER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS, FRANKLY, YOU COULDN'T PICK A BETTER SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY FOR THIS TOWN. THEY HAVE THE SAME PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE MADE THIS CITY GREAT. [01:35:03] AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT CANDIDLY, THERE'S NOT ANOTHER CLIENT THAT I'VE WORKED WITH OVER THE LAST 27 YEARS THAT I'M PROUDER TO BE AFFILIATED WITH BECAUSE OF THAT. LIKE SOUTHLAKE, FOREFRONT LIVING IS FOCUSED ON QUALITY AND PROTECTING THE HIGH STANDARDS OF THE CITIZENS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THEIR COMMUNITY. LIKE SOUTHLAKE FOREFRONT LIVING IS MISSION DRIVEN, BUILT AND OPERATED WITH FAITH BASED PRINCIPLES AND DOING WHAT IS RIGHT. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, LIKE SOUTHLAKE, FOREFRONT LIVING IS FOCUSED ON SERVING THE COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS CHRISTINE ROSS AT 2521 PARK GROVE LOOP HERE IN SOUTHLAKE WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM SEVEN A. OH, OPPOSITION. I'M SORRY. YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. MY BAD. I FIRST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK FOREFRONT SOUNDS FANTASTIC, AND IF MY PARENTS NEEDED A PLACE TO GO, I WOULD CHOOSE FOREFRONT. I THINK THEY WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNER FOR SOUTHLAKE, AND I'M CLOSER TO BEING A SENIOR CITIZEN THAN I AM NOT, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS SPOT IS THE RIGHT SPOT FOR THIS PROJECT. WE WE'VE BEEN IN THE AREA FOR 11.5 YEARS. WE SOLD OUR HOUSE IN WESTLAKE. I KNOW THE DAVIS SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD VERY WELL OVER THOSE YEARS. WE LOVE BUILDING HOUSES, SO WE WANTED TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO BUILD A HOUSE. AND WE FOUND STONY BROOK, AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS JUST BEAUTIFUL AND VERY MUCH IN KEEPING WITH SOUTHLAKE IN GENERAL, THE WAY YOU ALL HAVE DESIGNED THIS CITY, IT'S AMAZING. THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BEAUTIFUL. WE WERE WE DID OUR HOMEWORK. WE CHECKED TO SEE WHAT THE ZONING WAS BEHIND US, AND WE WERE SURPRISED IN SEPTEMBER TO FIND OUT THAT THERE WAS A ZONING CHANGE BEING TALKED ABOUT AND WHAT WAS GOING TO BE IN THAT SPACE. I THOUGHT THAT EVEN MULTI USE WAS LOW DENSITY. I'M REPEATING THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID. SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT WITH 210 UNITS, THAT'S A POTENTIAL 420 PEOPLE IN ADDITION TO 90 EMPLOYEES. ALL THE DELIVERIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I DO THINK IT'S A PROBLEM TO HAVE YOUR ENTRANCES ONLY ON DAVIS BOULEVARD. IF YOU LOOK AT WATER MIRROR, YOU'VE GOT TWO ENTRANCES WITH A STOPLIGHT ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A VERY BUSY ROAD. AND THEN YOU'VE ALSO GOT UNION CHURCH, WHICH IS NOT A BUSY ROAD. AND SO I THINK THAT HELPS A LOT WITH THE TRAFFIC THERE. I KNOW THEY SAID THEY REDUCED THE, THE, THE, THE HEIGHT, BUT THERE IS AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE BUT THAT IS VISIBLE FROM OUR SIDE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT FIVE STOREYS AND THE BUILDING I BELIEVE IS TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS LONG. SO, IT'S A BIG, VERY LARGE BUILDING. I WANT TO RESTATE, WE ARE NOT AGAINST FOREFRONT AT ALL. AND AGAIN, THEY WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST HOPE THAT IF YOU DECIDE TO LET THEM DO THIS, THAT YOU WILL REDUCE THE SCALE OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER PLACE IN SOUTHLAKE THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING, AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR VOLUNTEER, YOUR TIME TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MUCH APPRECIATED. NEXT WE HAVE JASON WANG FROM 721. WINDING RIDGE TRAIL WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM SEVEN, A JASON WANG. COME ON DOWN. HELLO. JASON WANG 721 WINDING RIDGE TRAIL I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE AT VILLAS OF HIDDEN KNOLL. I STARTED A CHANGE.ORG PETITION AND IT HAS CURRENTLY 284 SIGNATURES. I HAVE A PRINTOUT IF YOU'D LIKE IT. OTHERWISE, I DID SHARE THE LINK. YOU CAN ALSO GO TO THAT. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID IN OPPOSITION. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SENIOR LIVING. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO FOREFRONT AS AN ORGANIZATION. AND AGAIN, MY OPPOSITION AND THE OPPOSITION OF MY NEIGHBORS, ALL OF THOSE RED DOTS ON THAT MAP IS NOT AN INDICTMENT AGAINST SENIOR LIVING. IT'S JUST IN THE WRONG PLACE. THIS A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE AND SCALE IS IN THE WRONG PLACE AT FOREFRONT. AND THE P&Z COMMISSION, AND MAYBE YOURSELVES AS WELL. DON'T AGREE. DAVIS BOULEVARD IS DANGEROUS. THIS IS RECOGNIZED BY TXDOT. THEY WOULDN'T BE PUTTING A LARGE MEDIAN PROJECT IN WITHOUT THE PROBLEMS ON DAVIS BOULEVARD. [01:40:07] IT'S BEEN MENTIONED. WATER MIRROR HAS BEEN A BIG COMPARISON. THE AREA IS VERY DIFFERENT NOW COMPARED TO WHEN WATER MIRROR WAS CONSTRUCTED. IT'S FILLED IN WITH RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. AND TO ALL THE SUPPORTERS I HEAR YOU AND I DON'T HAVE ANY. AGAIN, NOTHING AGAINST SENIORS. I WOULD ASK FOR ALL THE SUPPORTERS TO CONSIDER IF YOU WOULD LIKE THIS PROPERTY TO BE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR. DID YOU SAY YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO HAND US? I CAN IF YOU'D LIKE. I HAVE ALL THE LIST OF THE. JUST MAYBE HAND IT TO OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OVER THERE AND WE'LL GET IT INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT WE HAVE JAMES DWYER. 2401 LOWER BROOK COURT WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM 7.A. THANK YOU. JAMES DWYER, 2401 LOWER BROOK COURT IN SOUTHLAKE. AND THAT IS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER AREA. I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF TARRANT COUNTY SINCE 1985. LIVED IN EULESS, SOUTH KELLER, NORTH KELLER, COLLEYVILLE, NOW SOUTHLAKE. PRESENTLY THERE ARE FIVE DWELLING UNITS ON THAT PROPERTY. THE PLAN HAS 210 DWELLING UNITS. THAT'S 42 TIMES INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS. THERE WOULD BE A LOSS OF NATURAL HABITAT IN THE AREA AS WELL. IT'S A LOVELY CREEK BED THAT HAS WATER IN IT THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER. FISH AND WILDLIFE. BOBCATS, LITERALLY BOBCATS. BARN OWLS. IT'S A GREAT LITTLE PRECIOUS JEWEL THAT IS PRECIOUS. YOU KNOW, HARD TO FIND IN THIS HIGHLY DEVELOPED AREA. AND SO, AND I UNDERSTAND IT THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE BUILDING IN THAT, IN THAT FLOODPLAIN, BUT STILL A LOT OF THAT WILDLIFE COULDN'T TOLERATE THE, THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE NOT OPPOSED. MY NEIGHBORS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OPPOSED ARE NOT OPPOSED TO CONTINUING RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY. WE JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST TOO INTENSE. IT'S A 730 FOOT LONG BUILDING THAT'S UP TO FOUR STORIES HIGH, MOSTLY THREE STORIES HIGH. IT IS A BIG BUILDING. IT IS A HUGE BUILDING AND IT'S JUST TOO DENSE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE CONSISTENT OBJECTION IS THE DENSITY OF IT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT CONCLUDES THE CARDS THAT INDICATED WISHING TO SPEAK DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING. I'M GOING TO READ THE COMMENT CARDS FOR THOSE WHO INDICATED THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT OF COURSE YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND AS I READ THROUGH THEM. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK LIKE THE OTHERS HAVE, JUST PLEASE COME ON DOWN. YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND. OR IF I MISSTATE YOUR POSITION, JUMP UP AND INTERRUPT ME. LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET IT. ALL RIGHT. SO FIRST UP IS JOANNE JANOWIAK 2812 RIVERBROOK WAY HERE IN SOUTHLAKE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS SUPPORT FOR ITEM 7.A. ROSS BLACKWELL 1525 HAWTHORNE, LANE AND KELLAR DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM 7.A. VAN SIOUX AT 508 WINDING RIDGE TRAIL HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO ITEM 7.A. CHRISTINE ADAMS AT 2512. PARK GROVE LOOP DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO 7.A. TIM WRIGHT AT 587 SHADY OAKS DRIVE, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS SUPPORT FOR ITEM 7.A. TERESA WRIGHT AT 587 SHADY OAKS DRIVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORD SUPPORT FOR ITEM 7.A. ELIZABETH JO CUMMINGS AT 121 STONY BROOK WAY DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO ITEM 7.A. JOE BRENNAN AT 917 WINDING RIDGE TRAIL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO ITEM 7.A. THE VILLAS OF HIDDEN KNOLL HOA AT 524 WINDING RIDGE TRAIL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO ITEM 7.A. HERE'S ANOTHER ONE FROM VILLA'S OF HIDDEN KNOLL HOA AT 528. SUNSET WAY. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO ITEM SEVEN A. [01:45:06] ANOTHER ONE FROM VILLA'S OF HIDDEN KNOLL. HOA. THIS ONE AT 600 WINDING RIDGE TRAIL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO ITEM 7.A. VILLAS OF HIDDEN KNOLL, HOA, WITH THE ADDRESS AT 601 WINDING RIDGE TRAIL, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO 7.A. VILLAS OF HIDDEN KNOLL HOA AT 610 WINDING RIDGE TRAIL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO 7.A. VILLAS OF HIDDEN KNOLL HOA AT 732 WINDING RIDGE TRAIL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO SEVEN A. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S IT FOR THE HOA. LAURIE BRENNAN AT 2528 PARK GROVE LOOP DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO 7.A. OH, COME ON DOWN. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW THE DRILL. WITH THE THREE MINUTES, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN WE'LL PUT THE TIMER ON FOR THREE MINUTES. I'M LAURIE BRENNAN, 2528 PARK GROVE LOOP. I WANTED TO BEGIN BY ADDING MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, MY HUSBAND AND I PURCHASED A LOT IN THE STONY BROOK NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BACKS UP TO A WOODED CREEK, AND WE WERE QUITE EXCITED TO HAVE A SECLUDED, PRIVATE, WOODED BACKYARD. SHORTLY AFTER, WE RECEIVED A POSTCARD FROM FOREFRONT LIVING WITH INFORMATION OF THEIR PROPOSED PROJECT THAT WOULD BACK RIGHT UP TO OUR NEW LOT WITH A LARGE APARTMENT BUILDING AND MULTIPLE SINGLE FAMILY VILLAS. WE ORIGINALLY WONDERED IF WE SHOULD CONTINUE WITH OUR NEW BUILD, BUT DECIDED THAT SURELY SOUTHLAKE WOULD NOT APPROVE OF SUCH A LARGE STRUCTURE. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE CHOSE SOUTHLAKE ORIGINALLY WAS BECAUSE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL. LITTLE DID WE KNOW WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE AN APARTMENT RIGHT BEHIND OUR HOUSE. WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE NOISE AND THE AMOUNT OF CARS PARKED AROUND THE BUILDINGS. A QUICK TRIP OVER TO WATER MIRROR. I SAW NO FEWER THAN 60 PLUS CARS PARKED ALL AROUND THE ASSISTED LIVING BUILDING THERE. WE ARE, OF COURSE, ALSO WORRIED ABOUT OUR PROPERTY VALUES. ONE LAST POINT. COINCIDENTALLY, WE CURRENTLY LIVE IN THE VILLAS OF HIDDEN KNOLL, DIRECTLY BEHIND DAVIS, ACROSS DAVIS BOULEVARD FROM THE PROPOSED SITE. I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND AT TIMES, PULLING OUT ONTO DAVIS ALONG THAT STRETCH CAN BE VERY CHALLENGING. AND UNLESS THERE IS A PLAN TO PUT A STOP LIGHT. BY THE TIME THE DEVELOPMENT IS BUILT, IT WILL BE A HUGE SAFETY CONCERN FOR EVERYONE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HIGHWAY THERE. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE LUIS ARRIETA AND SANDRA JAFFE, BOTH AT TWO, SIX, FOUR NINE PARK GROVE LOOP HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD OPPOSITION TO ITEM SEVEN A. KELLY REISER AT 2608 PARK GROVE LOOP DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO ITEM SEVEN A. JANET POLANCEC AT 2505 PARK GROUP PARK GROVE LOOP HERE IN SOUTHLAKE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO ITEM SEVEN A. MICHAEL POLANCEC AT 2505 PARK GROVE LOOP HERE IN SOUTHLAKE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO ITEM SEVEN A. AARON AND JIMMY. KISS AT TWO. 652 PARK GROVE LOOP. THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD OPPOSITION TO ITEM SEVEN. A. I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE. CHRISTY KOVARIK AT 1434 WALTHAM DRIVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORD SUPPORT FOR ITEM 7AI TAKE IT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WE DID NOT CALL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A CARD OR WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ON THIS ITEM? PARDON ME. I LIKE TO SPEAK. COME ON DOWN. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE SAME THREE MINUTES. YES. MY NAME IS HELEN WONG. MY ADDRESS IS 409 WHINING RIDGE TRAIL. I LIVE IN RIDGEVIEW. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT ALL THE STATEMENTS THAT THE FOLKS THAT OPPOSE THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I FEEL THE SAME WAY I'M SURE FOREFRONT LIVING IS A GREAT COMMUNITY. FOR SENIORS. HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT THE LARGE SCALE DENSE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WITH ALL THESE MULTI BUILDINGS IS NOT [01:50:03] IN KEEPING WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY IN OUR AREA. SO I THINK THE MAIN POINT HERE IS IF I CAN SHARE AN OBSERVATION, IS THAT THE FOLKS THAT TENDS TO BE A PROPONENT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE NOT THE NOT RESIDENTS OF THESE COMMUNITIES THAT IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THE PROJECT. I THINK THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THE DEBATE IS NOT WHETHER WE SHOULD HAVE A SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY IN SOUTHLAKE, BUT RATHER IT IS A QUESTION OF WHERE IT SHOULD BE LOCATED. CURRENTLY IT IS ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY, WELL RESIDENTS. OKAY. AND THIS DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. AND I THINK IT'S UTTERLY UNFAIR FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE INVESTED IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. AND NOW THERE'S A REQUEST FOR ZONING CHANGE. SO, I MEAN, OUR INVESTMENT COUNTS JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE'S. AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE WANTING, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE INVESTMENT THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, THAT YOU KNOW, BEAR IN MIND THAT WE DO HAVE A FINANCIAL STAKE THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OR SUBMIT A COMMENT CARD? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL, DO YOU WANT TO START WITH ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH OR ANYONE ON STAFF BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. WAS THERE A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE? NO, THERE WAS NOT A TRAFFIC STUDY. THERE WAS A TRAFFIC THRESHOLD ANALYSIS THAT WAS SUBMITTED. IT INDICATED THAT IT WOULD GENERATE ROUGHLY 686 VEHICLE TRIPS AND 24 HOUR PERIOD. THE THRESHOLD ON THAT CRITERIA IS 1000 PER DRIVEWAY. AND I THINK ON THE PEAK TIMES, THE MAXIMUM PEAK ON THAT WAS ABOUT 52 TRIPS AND A DESIGN HOUR, WHICH IT'S 100 TRIPS PER DRIVEWAY AND THAT SCENARIO. THANK YOU. AND THOSE ACCOUNT FOR THE TRIPS THAT ARE ON 1938 RIGHT NOW. THAT'S RIGHT. ABOUT 2% ADDITION TO WHAT'S THERE TODAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME UP IF YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE'VE HAD, OR PERHAPS BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND DO WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE? POSSIBLY SOME QUESTIONS. JUST A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS. AGAIN, THE EXPECTED OCCUPANCY IS 1.3 PER RESIDENCE, NOT TWO. SO SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT WERE MENTIONED OR FEARED WILL NOT BE REALIZED. ALSO, EACH INDEPENDENT INDEPENDENT LIVING RESIDENT RECEIVES THE EQUIVALENT OF 20 MEALS PER MONTH. SO IT IS NOT A THREE MEAL PER DAY PROGRAM. SO THE VOLUME OF OF FOOD AND OTHER THINGS WOULD BE OVERSTATED IN THAT CASE. AND I THINK JANELLE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PETITION THAT WAS SUBMITTED. YEAH. IN LOOKING AT THE PETITION OF THERE'S 63% OF THE SUPPORTERS COME FROM THREE ZIP CODES, 76092, WHICH I BELIEVE IS SOUTHLAKE. AND THEN THE OTHERS ARE NOT SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS. AND AGAIN, THAT'S COMPRISED TWO OTHER ZIP CODES. PLUS SOUTHLAKE IS JUST 60 IS 63% OF THE NUMBER THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. SO OTHERS COME FROM OTHER LOCATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA. OKAY. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS. I JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHAT'S THE AVERAGE SIZE OF ONE OF THE UNITS. AND THERE ARE THE DIFFERENT SIZES. WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS ON THOSE. THE AVERAGE SIZE THEY RANGE FROM JUST UNDER 1000FT² UP TO THE UPPER 2000. THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THE ABILITY TO COMBINE, WHICH COULD RESULT IN NEARLY 3000FT². WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT ARE AT THAT LEVEL OF FLUENCY. THEY'D LIKE TO COMBINE. SO WE'VE SEEN TWO LARGE RESIDENCES COMBINED. AND WHAT ABOUT THE COTTAGES? THE COTTAGES ARE LARGER. THEY ARE 2500 TO 2500. THANK YOU. JANELLE. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICANTS? [01:55:03] ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A SEAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YES, MAYOR. I MEAN, I'LL GIVE YOU MY OPINION TO KIND OF KICK THINGS OFF. IT'S INTERESTING TO ME HOW TIME FLIES. I WAS IN MY FIRST TERM ON COUNCIL WHEN HARBORCHASE CAME THROUGH IN LATE 2014. I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE UP HERE THAT CONSIDERED THAT AN APPLICATION, AND THIS ONE FEELS SO SIMILAR IN THE SENSE THAT THE CONCEPT WAS WONDERFUL. I MEAN, WHO CAN ARGUE WITH THE CONCEPT OF SENIOR LIVING AND SUPPORTING THOSE FOLKS AT THAT STAGE OF LIFE? IT WAS A LOCATION ISSUE. AND, AND I RECALL THAT'S ULTIMATELY HOW HARBORCHASE ENDED UP WHERE IT IS. AND IT'S IN A JUST A PERFECT LOCATION. NOW, IT'S IT'S NICELY THERE OFF OF 114. AND IT'S BEEN A MODEL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S I'M IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE I WAS TEN YEARS AGO, WHICH IS WONDERFUL CONCEPT. NOT A GOOD LOCATION, NOT WITH RESIDENTS IN EVERY DIRECTION SURROUNDING. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO'S COME OUT TONIGHT. I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE ON A ON A SCHOOL NIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION, WHETHER YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING PART OF OUR PROCESS. THAT HELPS US MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. HEARING THE INPUT OF ALL THE GREAT PEOPLE IN SOUTHLAKE AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. SO TIME WELL SPENT, AND I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT HAS MADE A LOT OF REVISIONS TO THIS, BUT I THINK IT IS A LOCATION ISSUE. I THINK IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE WORD WE HEARD WAS DENSITY. ALSO, LOOKING AT THE REVISED SUBMITTAL, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BECOME HAS MORE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE AND LESS OPEN SPACE THAN BEFORE. SO I THINK THAT MAY BE GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON IT FOR TONIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, I WOULD AGREE. LOOKING AT THE DENSITY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, AND I SAT ON CORRIDOR AND SAW THIS AND WE SAID FROM FROM DAY ONE IT WAS TOO DENSE. THE DENSITY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE WERE MADE AT THE COTTAGE LEVEL AND SOME OF THE OTHER. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAIN PART OF IT, WHICH SOMEBODY DESCRIBED TONIGHT AS TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS. JUST FEELS GIGANTIC FOR ME AND A LITTLE BIT OUT OF PLACE. SO I REALLY DO LOVE THE MISSION. I AGREE WE PROBABLY DO NEED MORE SENIOR LIVING IN SOUTHLAKE. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO FIND A DIFFERENT LOCATION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? GO AHEAD. YEAH, I WOULD ECHO THAT SAME SENTIMENT. I THINK THAT I THINK I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT FOREFRONT HERE, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. AND I THINK I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT. AND I THINK THOSE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT MAKE GREAT POINTS. I THINK THOSE THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION MAKE GREAT POINTS. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED HERE. BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE YOU CAN'T PUT THIS RIGHT RIGHT THERE, I DON'T THINK. GO AHEAD. YEAH. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD EXCEPT I AGREE WITH WITH WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID. I THINK, OF COURSE, AS OUR POPULATION AGES, WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE SENIOR LIVING. OF COURSE. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT LOCATION. I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, AND I THINK TWO POINTS THAT WERE WELL MADE IS THE SCALE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IT SURROUNDS. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T IGNORE AND FOR, AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA WERE NOT ANTICIPATING THIS KIND OF SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT OR ANY, AND IT BEING SO INCOMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S NEAR IT. SO THAT'S MY FEELING ABOUT IT. BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. I'M ONE OF THE PROUDEST MOMENTS OF MY ADULT LIFE. WE MOVED MY MOM INTO A SIMILAR FACILITY IN PEACHTREE CITY, GEORGIA. I TOLD HER AT THE TIME, I HOPE I'M ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN A PLACE LIKE THAT. GREAT. SHE HATES IT BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO LIVE IN MY SISTER'S HOUSE. BUT I'D BE AMENABLE TO THIS WONDERFUL FACILITY IN ANOTHER LOCATION IN SOUTHLAKE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE CALL FOR A MOTION FROM MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMSON? ALL RIGHT, RANDY, IT'S ALL YOURS. YES, MAYOR. COUNCIL, I MOVE THAT WE DENY ITEM SEVEN A ORDINANCE NUMBER 480823 AND IN 4808248240051. FIRST READING ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN AND ZONING CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENTAL PLAN FOR FOREFRONT SENIOR LIVING ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOTS ONE, A ONE, B, TWO AND THREE. PARKERS CORNER ADDITION AND TRACK 2A02J. ALLAN SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 18, LOCATED AT 33684 DAVIS BOULEVARD, CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TARRANT COUNTY, TEXAS. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY. SO A YES VOTE IS IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION. A YES VOTE IS TO SUPPORT THE MOTION TO DENY WHICH HAS BEEN MADE. SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. CAST YOUR VOTES. [02:00:02] AND THE MOTION TO DENY CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. NEXT UP IS ITEM SEVEN B ORDINANCE NUMBER 480825. [7.B. Ordinance No. 480-825, ZA24-0059, 1st Reading, Zoning Change and Development Plan for Carroll Crossing on property described as Tracts 3D and 3C02, W. R. Eaves Survey Abstract No. 500, and located at 1963 W Southlake Blvd., and 200 S. Peytonville Ave. Current Zoning: “S-P-1” Detailed Site Plan District and “O-1” Office District. Requested Zoning: “TZD” Transition Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #10. ] CASE NUMBER 24-0059. FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CARROLL CROSSING. AND I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A QUICK EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS ITEM. AS MAYOR, I HEREBY ADVISE YOU THAT WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071. TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL PROBABLY BE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE PROPERTY THAT IS LOCATED AT 1963 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND 200 SOUTH PATTONVILLE AVENUE. A REQUEST TO CHANGE ZONING AND REQUEST APPROVAL OF A ZONING CHANGE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS PROPERTY WAS IS CURRENTLY ZONED SP ONE DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT AND ONE OFFICE DISTRICT. THE SP ONE PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR GREEN ACRES NURSERY RETAIL NURSERY, AND THE ONE PROPERTY ADDRESSED AT 200 PATTONSVILLE AVENUE IS CURRENTLY ZONED O-1 OFFICE DISTRICT. THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY IS RETAIL COMMERCIAL, ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY CONNECTING TO PATTONVILLE IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL. THESE ARE SOME SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE LAND USE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE AREA IN GENERAL. IT COVERS PARTS OF PRAYER CIRCLE OVER TO THE BOUNDARY OF PENTONVILLE AVENUE UP TO THE INTERSECTION WITH SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD. FUTURE RETAIL OR POSSIBLY OFFICE USES ON 1709 SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S IDENTIFIED TARGET INDUSTRIES. THIS WOULD BE IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND AS UNDEVELOPED OFFICE PROPERTIES ALONG PENTONVILLE DEVELOPED, THEY SHOULD ENSURE CROSS ACCESS NORTH SOUTH TO LIMIT ACCESS ON THE PATTON AVENUE AND PROVIDE INTERNAL CROSS ACCESS TO PLAYERS CIRCLE AND AS WELL AS PENTONVILLE AVENUE, ENCOURAGE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE MEDIUM DENSITY PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. SUCH AN OFFICE DEVELOPMENT COULD COULD BE CONSIDERED IF IT'S SCALED APPROPRIATELY FOR THE SURROUNDING USES. DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA SHOULD BE APPROVED IN A MANNER THAT'S SENSITIVE TO THE ADJACENT SOUTHLAKE WOODS NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN PARTICULAR WITH REGARD TO NOISE, TRAFFIC, BUILDING HEIGHTS, LIGHTING, AND VIEWS. BUILDING LOCATION ON PROPERTIES SHOULD BE LOCATED NEAR THE FRONT BUILDING LINE, IN PARTICULAR ALONG SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND PATTON VILLE WITH PARKING. MAJORITY OF PARKING BEING BEHIND BUILDINGS. THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY, AS I MENTIONED. THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS SP1 DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT, AND THE PORTION OF PROPERTY EXTENDING TO PATTONVILLE IS OH ONE ON OFFICE DISTRICT. THIS IS A VIEW FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD LOOKING SOUTH. AND THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING WEST ACROSS PENTONVILLE AVENUE. THIS IS THE SLIVER TRACK EXTENDING TO PENTONVILLE. THIS IS A CURRENTLY OR PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR THE GREEN ACRES NURSERY. AND THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PART OF THAT APPROVAL. RENDERINGS OF THAT APPROVAL. THIS IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. IT IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE ZONING TO A TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT. [02:05:01] IT WOULD INCLUDE FOUR OFFICE BUILDINGS, RANGING FROM 5700FT² TO 9000FT² ALONG THE SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD FRONTAGE. IT WOULD INCLUDE A SMALL RETAIL RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THRU ON THE NORTH EAST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS PROPOSED FOR 30 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, ALONG WITH AN OPEN SPACE, A RETENTION DETENTION POND AND THE OPEN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE DESIGNATED PRIMARILY AS OPEN SPACE AND PRIVATE STREET ACCESS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES A SECONDARY GATED RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL OCCUPANT ONLY ACCESS BACK THROUGH THE COMMON ACCESS EASEMENT THAT RUNS BETWEEN TWO OF THE OFFICE BUILDINGS, BACK TO PLAYERS CIRCLE. THIS WOULD PROVIDE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT AND MEDIUM BREAK ACCESS ALONG SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, CURRENTLY WHERE THE PAINESVILLE DRIVEWAY ACCESS IS. IT WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ACCESS ONLY DUE TO A DIVIDED MEDIAN ON PATTONVILLE, AND THAT IS WHERE A TURN LANE IS THAT GOES INTO ONE OF THE PRIMARY PARKING AREAS FOR SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL. THIS PLAN ALSO INCLUDES A FENCING PLAN, MAJORITY OF THE NORTH AND WEST BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY AND SOME OF THE EASTERN BOUNDARY WOULD INCLUDE SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL. EASTERN EASTERN BOUNDARY WOULD INCLUDE AN EIGHT FOOT WOOD FENCE, AND ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY WOULD RETAIN AN EXISTING EIGHT FOOT WOOD FENCE. THIS IS A DETAIL OF THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF THE CCD. AND A DETAIL OF THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. THIS IS THEIR TREE CONSERVATION PLAN. UNDER CCD IT IS SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THE PLAN PROPOSED. CURRENTLY, THE SITE HAS JUST APPROXIMATELY 20% TREE COVER FOR A STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT. THIS WOULD REQUIRE 70% OF THAT TO BE PRESERVED. AS PROPOSED, THIS WOULD PRESERVE JUST SLIGHTLY OVER 39% OF THE EXISTING TREE COVER. THESE ARE SOME EXHIBITS OF THE TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE THAT WOULD BE USED FOR THE OFFICE AND RETAIL RESTAURANT COMPONENT. AND THESE ARE SOME EXHIBITS OF THE TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT AND THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AT THEIR NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING, APPROVED IT FOR TWO. AND NOTING THAT THE APPLICANT'S WILLING WAS WILLING TO PRESENT AN OPTION WITH NO GATE, AND THE COMMISSION ENCOURAGING THE RESIDENT ACCESS BACK TO BOTH THE EAST AND THE WEST, MEANING TO PAINESVILLE AND PLAYERS CIRCLE. WE HAVE RECEIVED WITHIN THE NOTICE AREA ONE OPPOSITION WITHIN THE 200FT. AND WE HAVE LATE THIS AFTERNOON RECEIVED SOME LETTERS OF SUPPORT, WHICH I THINK YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED WITH THAT, I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH AT THIS TIME? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT UP, I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD. AND YOU KNOW THE DRILL. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION ALREADY PULLED UP. THANK YOU. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CURTIS YOUNG WITH THE SAGE GROUP. 1130 NORTH CARROLL HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. APPRECIATE YOU STICKING WITH US. HAVE A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THIS. DENNIS DID HIS USUAL COMPREHENSIVE DESCRIPTION OF THE DETAILS, SO I'LL TRY TO SKIP OVER SOME OF THOSE. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE DETAILS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM. YOU KNOW, WE WHEN WE STARTED IN THIS, WE STARTED WITH THE LAND USE PLAN BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS CAREFULLY THOUGHT THIS THROUGH, AND [02:10:03] WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NOT ONLY COMPLY WITH THE LAND USE PLAN, BUT SOME OF THE, THE THE AREAS IN THE SPECIFIC AREA THAT THAT DENNIS READ OFF EARLIER. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S RETAIL COMMERCIAL ALONG SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND THE REAR IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THERE IS AN EXISTING DRIVE WHICH IS SHARED ON THE COMMON PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN US AND THE WALGREENS THERE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER THAT GIVES US ACCESS TO SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD. WE ARE PROPOSING ANOTHER ENTRY ROAD IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE ALONG SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, AND THEN THERE IS ALSO A ACCESS EASEMENT FROM PLAYERS CIRCLE THAT GOES INTO THE PROPERTY FROM THE WEST. THAT GIVES THE COMMERCIAL AREA THREE POINTS OF ACCESS. FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT, OUR MAIN ENTRY WOULD BE OFF OF PATTONVILLE ACROSS FROM THE SENIOR HIGH THROUGH THAT AREA THERE. AS DENNIS MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR A COUPLE OF OFFICE BUILDINGS JUST SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY. AND WE ARE SHOWING A CONNECTION TO THAT THERE. SO THAT WOULD ALL WORK TO CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO OUR ENTRY ROAD. AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER ACCESS EASEMENT COMING FROM PLAYERS CIRCLE THAT'S FURTHER IN. THAT WOULD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO ACCESS THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION FROM THERE. SO WE THINK WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD ACCESS TO THIS SITE AND ARE NOT PROPOSING CROSS TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL PORTION AND THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION. AND HERE'S THE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THOSE ENTRANCES ARE. AND CROSS ACCESS EASEMENTS WOULD BE FROM THIS. THIS THESE ARE PROPOSED SUPPOSED TO BE EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY HOMES IN HERE, RANGING FROM 3000 TO OVER 4000FT². WE PROPOSE A VALUE OF THESE ONCE THEY'RE BUILT OF ABOUT $2.5 MILLION. SO THEY'LL BE THEY'LL BE VERY HIGH QUALITY HOMES BUILT TO THE KIND OF STANDARDS THAT CERTAINLY SOUTHLAKE IS USED TO FOR NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE. ONE THING THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THIS PROCESS IS TALK EXTENSIVELY WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE'VE REACHED OUT TO. THOSE ALONG THE SOUTHERN END THERE THAT WERE IN SOUTHLAKE WOODS. BASICALLY WHAT WE HEARD FROM THEM IS THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE A CHANGE FROM A COMMERCIAL USE ON THIS PROPERTY TO A RESIDENTIAL USE ON THIS PROPERTY. THEY WERE APPRECIATIVE OF THE OPEN SPACE ALONG THERE AS KIND OF A BUFFER, EVEN BETWEEN THE HOME AND THE HOME. ON THAT. AND SO WE'VE PROMISED TO KEEP THAT BUFFER IN THERE. WE'VE PROMISED TO. EITHER RETAIN THE FENCE OR REBUILD IT DEPENDING ON THE QUALITY OF THE FENCE AS IT IS. ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN ADJACENT TO US JUST BUILT A NEW FENCE, AND, YOU KNOW HIS IS IN GOOD SHAPE. WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT. HIM AND THAT ANOTHER ONE MENTIONED THAT I TALKED TO, THAT HIS FENCE IS PROBABLY EITHER IN NEED OF REPAIR OR COMPLETE REPLACEMENT. WE AGREED THAT REPLACEMENT OF THAT FENCE WOULD BE GOOD. SO WE'RE WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH TO, TO TAKE CARE OF, OF WHATEVER NEEDS ON THAT. THAT FENCE IS THERE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CLEANUP OF THE EXISTING TREES ALONG THE SOUTH THERE, AND THERE'S SOME POISON IVY AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP. AND ALSO IT KIND OF DRAINS. SHEET DRAINS TOWARD THESE AREAS, AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT PICKING UP THAT DRAINAGE AND MOVING IT INTO THE RETENTION POND SO IT WOULD NO LONGER COME INTO THE FENCE, WHICH IS WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEMS TO BEGIN WITH. I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH ALL THOSE THINGS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND SO EVERYONE I TALKED TO TO THE SOUTH SEEMS SUPPORTIVE. AND WE ALSO HAVE AN OPEN SPACE CORRIDOR GOING UP THROUGH THE THE LOTS IN THE CENTER THERE WITH A TRAIL GOING THROUGH THERE. THAT OPEN SPACE CORRIDOR WOULD BE 45 OR 50FT WIDE AND PROVIDE KIND OF A GOOD BACKYARD VIEW FOR THOSE UNITS. ALL TOLD, THERE'S 30 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, JUST OVER 30,000FT² OF OFFICE SHOWN HERE. AND THEN THE THE RETAIL RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH, WE'RE SHOWING IT AT 3375FT². THAT'S PARTIALLY DEPENDENT ON WHAT WHAT USER WE GET THERE. EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN USE ON THAT, BUT THAT'S A PRETTY TYPICAL GOOD SIZED UNIT ON THAT. [02:15:04] HERE'S THE THE DETAIL OF THAT. YOU CAN SEE HOW THE THE OFFICE WE'VE GROUPED THE TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS KIND OF IN A OPEN SPACE AREA AROUND THEM WITH THE PARKING AND THE PERIMETER. WE THINK THAT WOULD THAT WOULD MAKE SOME MORE OPEN SPACE NEXT TO THE OFFICE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES. AND REALLY A NICE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE OFFICE BUILDINGS THERE. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE, THE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER THERE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE, THE WALGREENS. WE ARE ALSO SHOWING, I LIKE TO POINT OUT, AND THIS IDEA ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE, THE IDEA OF PUTTING A TRAIL CONNECTION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL, NOT A VEHICLE CONNECTION, BUT JUST A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION UP HERE SO THAT THESE FOLKS HERE CAN EITHER COME UP HERE TO WORK OR VISIT. WALGREENS OR THE RESTAURANT IN THIS LOCATION HERE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, AS PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED, WOULD BE FULLY LANDSCAPED. THE RETENTION POND HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND WILL BE DETAILED, DESIGNED AS WE GO THROUGH HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY MORE DRAINAGE TO THE CHANNEL THAT GOES TO THE SOUTH HERE THAT IT CAN HANDLE WITHOUT ANY FURTHER DAMAGE ON THAT. THERE IS A DRAINAGE THAT COMES ALL THE WAY FROM SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD, WHICH WILL BE CARRIED UNDERGROUND THROUGH HERE TO. THESE ARE INDICATIVE OF THE KIND OF RESIDENTIAL OR OFFICE BUILDING ARCHITECTURE ARCHITECTURE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. VERY MODERN LOOKING, BUT CLASSY, WITH A GOOD PRESENCE ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD. AS YOU GO BY. SLIGHT VARIATIONS BETWEEN THEM AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL HOME ELEVATIONS. NICE MATERIALS. PROBABLY MOST OF THEM WILL BE TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT, BUT GOOD LOOKING, CLASSIC TYPE HOME ARCHITECTURE. SO THAT'S OUR PROPOSAL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR DISCUSS ANY ANY ISSUES YOU HAVE. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THE PRESENTATION. QUICK QUESTION ON THE COMMERCIAL PART ALONG SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD ARE BUILDINGS ONE THROUGH FOUR. THOSE ARE OFFICE, NOT A RETAIL RESTAURANT. THAT'S RETAIL. WHATEVER. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. BUT OF COURSE, THIS IS A CONCEPT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO WHEN WE DO DETAILED DEVELOPMENT OF THAT, WE'D HAVE TO COME IN WITH A SITE PLAN AND YOU'D HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE DETAILS. BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW IS THOSE WOULD ALL BE OFFICE BUILDING, ONE THROUGH FOUR OFFICES. AND THEN NUMBER FIVE IS THE RESTAURANT. OKAY. CORRECT. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR NOW. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FOR THE APPLICANT RIGHT NOW? GO AHEAD. CURTIS. THE ENTRANCE OFF OF PATTONVILLE. IS THAT GATED? IT WOULD BE, YES. WE'RE PROPOSING IF YOU ALL AGREE TO HAVE A GATE HERE. OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A TURNAROUND BEFORE A GATE. BUT PUTTING IT BACK HERE GIVES THE ABILITY FOR THE DRIVE COMING OUT OF THIS OFFICE BUILDING TO GO IN WITHOUT HAVING TO TO GO THROUGH THE GATE. OKAY. AND THEN ON THE WESTERN SIDE, HOW WOULD SOMEBODY IF THEY COME DOWN THAT LITTLE. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT VERY LONG AND GET TO THE GATE AND SAY WHOOPS. HOW DID THEY TURN AROUND. WELL IS IT IS IT REALLY SHORT OVER THERE? YEAH. OKAY. THERE'S PARKING LOTS IN HERE. WE WOULD HAVE A SIGNAGE IN THIS LOCATION SAYING, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS ONLY ACCESS THROUGH THERE, BUT IT WOULD BE A FULL FIRE LANE WIDTH IN THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? YES. GO AHEAD. CURTIS, ON THE ON THE EXIT FROM THE RESIDENTIAL ONTO PATTONVILLE. THAT'S EXITING DIRECTLY INTO A MEDIAN. CORRECT? YES. SO, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK WE CAN AGREE IT'D BE VERY RARE THAT ANYBODY WOULD BE LEAVING HERE TO GO SOUTH ON PATTONVILLE. I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO EVERYBODY 99% OF THE TIME. THEY'RE GOING TO GO NORTH. SO WHAT'S THE CONSIDERATION THERE? I MEAN, I THINK I KNOW MY OWN ANSWER IS IT'S A U-TURN. WELL, THE THE THOUGHT IS IN THE MORNING WHEN PEOPLE ARE LEAVING TO GO TO WORK OR WHEREVER THEY'RE OFF TO, THIS WILL BE WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL IS GOING TO HAVE THE MOST TRAFFIC, RIGHT? THEY'LL BE ABLE TO LEAVE HERE, GO OUT TO PLAYERS CIRCLE AND GET ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD WITHOUT GOING INTO INTO PATTONVILLE AT ALL. THOSE THAT THAT DO GO SOUTH WILL BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT THERE. BUT YOU'RE CORRECT, IT'LL PROBABLY BE FEWER THAN HALF OF THEM DOING THAT. [02:20:01] AND OF COURSE THE COMING HOME TRAFFIC. THAT'S EASY. WOULD COMING SOUTH FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A RIGHT TURN? SURE. OKAY. NO. I SEE YOU AT THE BACK. I MEAN, I DO THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING, THOUGH, THAT THE THE THE EASTERN EXIT ON THE PATTONVILLE WOULD, IN ESSENCE, ALMOST BE UNUSABLE DURING SCHOOL HOURS WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN AND OUT. THERE'S JUST THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S USABLE. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBINS AND I DON'T THINK YOU MENTIONED IT, BUT WHAT'S YOUR KIND OF AVERAGE SIZE ON THESE HOUSES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE? DO YOU THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO AVERAGE IN THE MID THREE THOUSANDS RANGE OR SO. I'M ASSUMING YOU'D BE OKAY WITH US PUTTING SOME KIND OF LIMITATION ON WHAT? THE SIZES OF THOSE WERE THERE. A MINIMUM OF SOME KIND? YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN ARE THEY MOSTLY MASONRY? IS THAT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE? AT LEAST THE EXAMPLES ARE. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A $2.5 MILLION HOUSE, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE MOSTLY. YEAH, THEY'LL BE MASONRY OF SOME KIND. YEAH. AND THEN ON THAT, ON THAT WEST EXIT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME I KNOW IT'S IT'S RESIDENT ONLY ENTRY, BUT WILL ANYONE BE ABLE TO EXIT THERE. I MEAN IS THAT SOMETHING THE RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO EXIT THERE AS WELL. BUT CAN A NON RESIDENT EXIT THERE. LIKE WHAT CAN I GUESS THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S I THINK THAT'S COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS'S POINT IS VERY WELL TAKEN. IF SOMEONE'S VISITING THERE AND THEY HAPPEN TO WANT TO LEAVE AT 4:00, THEY'RE GOING TO BE STUCK TRYING TO FIGHT SCHOOL TRAFFIC. CAN WE KIND OF DICTATE, KIND OF LIKE WE DID OVER HERE AT ACROSS THE STREET, THAT THAT HAS TO BE AT LEAST A SENSOR DRIVEN EXIT GATE? YES. ONCE YOU'RE ONCE YOU'RE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'D BE ABLE TO LEAVE THERE. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE YOU HAVE GPS, BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EXACTLY. YEAH. AS LONG AS YOU CAN LEAVE THAT WAY. I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS TIME? SO, CURTIS, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE SIZE LOT? THE AVERAGE SIZE LOT IN THIS IS APPROXIMATELY JUST UNDER 7000FT². AND WHAT'S THIS SPACE IN THE MIDDLE THAT LOOKS MAYBE LIKE A WALKING? IS THAT LIKE A LITTLE WALK PATH BETWEEN. YES. THAT'S A THAT'S A GREENBELT WITH A TRAIL GOING DOWN TO THE MIDDLE OF IT. SO SOMEONE WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BLOCK, BUT ALSO THROUGH THERE. AND IT'S WIDE ENOUGH WHERE IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S 45 OR 50FT WIDE, WHICH IS A PRETTY WIDE AREA. I'VE DONE THAT IN SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS AND IT WORKS OUT PRETTY WELL. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL, AT THIS TIME? WE'LL PROBABLY ASK YOU TO COME BACK UP A LITTLE BIT LATER. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. ITEM SEVEN B IS A FIRST READING AND DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO SPEAK AND HAVE COMMENT CARDS SUBMITTED. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM SEVEN B. SAME RULES AS BEFORE. IF YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. YOU CAN ALSO CHANGE YOUR MIND IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK AND THEN CHANGE YOUR MIND. YOU DON'T. WE CAN CERTAINLY ACCOMMODATE YOU. OR IF YOU INDICATED YOU DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT CHANGE YOUR MIND AND DO COME ON DOWN. SO WE'LL START OFF WITH MR. MICHAEL CARTER AT ONE 808 NATIVE DANCER PLACE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO SEVEN B. I AM MICHAEL CARTER I LIVE AT 1808 NATIVE DANCER PLACE IN SOUTHLAKE WOODS. I HAD TO CHECK EITHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSE AND SO I JUST CHECKED THE POSE. I'M NOT REALLY OPPOSED. I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS, BUT BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH HAWKWOOD. I HAVE FAITH THAT AT LEAST ONE OF THE ITEMS IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, AND THAT IS THE DRAINAGE OF THE 7000 SQUARE FOOT LOT. THERE'S A LOT LESS LAND TO ABSORB THE WATER. THE WATER IS GOING TO COME IN. I GUESS I REALLY LIKE WHAT THE WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED FOR THE SPACE JUST NORTH OF SOUTHLAKE WOODS. THE OPEN SPACE WITH THE RETENTION POND. MY CONCERN IS PLEASE MAKE THAT RETENTION POND DEEP BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF WATER. THE OTHER CONCERN IS ONE THAT MR. WILLIAMSON REFERENCED EXITING THE EASTERN SIDE. THE ONLY OPTION IS TO TURN RIGHT. I DO HAVE A CONCERN THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE TURNING RIGHT ARE GOING TO WANT TO GO BACK TO 1709, AND THEREFORE THEY'RE GOING TO GO JUST A LITTLE [02:25:07] BIT FURTHER TO OUR STONEBOROUGH ENTRANCE AT SOUTHLAKE WOODS AND USE US AS A U-TURN FACILITY. THAT'S A THAT IS A LITTLE CONCERN FOR ME, BUT OVERALL, I THINK THE ADDITION OF THE EXIT AT THE BACK ON THE WEST SIDE WILL POSSIBLY HELP MITIGATE THE NUMBER THAT ARE COMING AND COMING AND DOING THE U-TURN THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THERE ARE TWO AREAS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT AND MAKE A MAKE AN ISSUE OF THAT IS A CONCERN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. NEXT, WE HAVE JOE CONIGLIO AT 814 SHORECREST DRIVE, WHO INDICATED ON BOTH 7.A AND 7.B THAT HE WOULD SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. I THINK HE WAS HERE FOR SEVEN A SO I'M NOT SURE IF HE INTENDED. SEVEN B JOE IS NOT HERE. I WILL NOTE IT FOR THE RECORD THAT IT WAS SEVEN A AND 7.B IN SUPPORT OF THOSE ITEMS FROM JOE CONIGLIO, JUST IN CASE. NEXT UP ARE SOME RESIDENTS WHO DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. COME ON DOWN. BARRY HICKMAN AT 811 LONGHORN HOLLOW. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO 7.B. AMANDA DORAN AT 1917 BIG BEN COVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO SEVEN BE. REID DARWISH AT 505 INDIAN PAINTBRUSH WAY, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS SUPPORT FOR 7.B. TERESA WRIGHT AT 587 SHADY OAKS DRIVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS SUPPORT FOR 7.A AND 7.B AND THEN CIRCLED 7.B, SO MAYBE BOTH, MAYBE 7.B TIM WRIGHT AT 587 SHADY OAKS DRIVE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT RECORDS SUPPORT AGAIN FOR 7.A AND 7.B WITH 7.B CIRCLED. SO WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE RECORD. DUPLICATES OKAY. THEY WERE DUPLICATES WE THINK FROM 7.A BUT THEY'RE THERE IN THE RECORD FOR 7.B, JUST IN CASE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OR SUBMIT A COMMENT CARD COME ON DOWN, SIR. AND AGAIN, IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN THE GREEN LIGHT WILL COME ON, YOU'LL HAVE THAT THREE MINUTES. HI. GOOD NIGHT. MY NAME IS GABRIEL REYNOSO. I'M FROM 806 WINDMILL COURT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. I THINK WE NEED MORE OPTIONS FOR NEW HOUSES IN THAT VERY EXACT, EXACT PRICE RANGE. AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE COMMERCIAL AREA AS WELL. I GUESS SOUTHLAKE NEEDS MORE PEOPLE TO, TO BRING ATTENTION FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR BUSINESS. AND BRINGING THIS PROJECT, IT'S GREAT FOR THE BUSINESSES AROUND, ESPECIALLY FROM THE ONES AROUND HOBBY LOBBY, SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OR SUBMIT A COMMENT CARD ON ITEM 7.B. SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR, SAY, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH OR ANY STAFF MEMBER FIRST? YEAH. DENNIS. WHAT IS THE DENSITY IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? ARE THEY HALF ACRE? YES. THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY SOUTH ARE ALL 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, SOME LARGER. SO I WOULD JUST GUESS NOT HAVING CALCULATED, IT'S PROBABLY IN THE 1.71.8 RANGE. AND THEN HELP ME REMEMBER, I KNOW WE DISCUSSED A POSSIBLE I THINK WHEN IT WAS GOING TO BE GREEN ACRES, SOME KIND OF TURN LANE. WHAT IS THIS GOING TO NEED THAT INTO THIS COMMERCIAL OR THIS THIS OFFICE SPACE OR DO YOU THINK IT'LL BE FINE? I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE LIGHT, I THINK, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF ACCESS POINTS, THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT IT. THE, THE ACTUAL TRIPS THAT ARE HITTING THE NEW DRIVE HERE PROBABLY WON'T REACH THE THRESHOLD. THAT WOULD REQUIRE A TURN LANE. THEY WILL. WHEN THEY GET A PERMIT FROM TXDOT, THEY WILL LIKELY HAVE TO PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY TO TXDOT FOR THAT TXDOT PERMIT, [02:30:06] AND IT WOULD BE EVALUATED AT THAT POINT IF THEY BELIEVE THEY NEEDED A TURN LANE TO SUPPORT THAT ONE. OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW WE RECENTLY APPROVED EXTENDING THAT SCHOOL ZONE DOWN. PATTONVILLE. DO YOU RECALL HOW FAR DOWN THAT GOES? I DO NOT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SCHOOL ZONE LIMITS, BUT DIDN'T WE? AM I REMEMBERING THAT RIGHT? WE JUST APPROVED IT TO EXTEND IT FARTHER SOUTH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE DENNIS? DO WE HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON DRIVE THRU RESTAURANTS? IS THERE ANY QUALIFIERS FOR THAT FOR A DRIVE THRU? THERE IS NOT. THERE'S NOT A REGULATION OR A SPECIAL APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR A DRIVE THRU. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH AT THIS TIME? APPLICANT, YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP IN CASE WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, OR YOU CAN RESPOND TO ANYTHING THAT CAME FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. GO AHEAD AND THEN WE MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANY OF YOU ALL HAVE HOW MANY ACRES IS JUST THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE TOTAL INCLUDING YOUR ENTRY AND EVERYTHING. WHAT IS IT? IT'S ABOUT 11.5 THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION. AND I JUST DID QUICK MATH, AND I THINK YOUR AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS OVER 7500, ISN'T IT, WITH IT CURRENTLY, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TEN, 11,000, 9000. YOU THINK IT REALLY SITS UNDER SEVEN STILL? I JUST DID A QUICK MATH HERE. RIGHT. WELL, IF YOU INCLUDE THE OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, AS A DENSITY THING, BUT YEAH, IT'S THE TYPICAL LOT IS 6750 I BELIEVE. AND THEN SOME OF THEM ARE MORE. SO, IT'S AROUND 7000 ON AVERAGE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. I HAVE ONE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS THE SIZE OF THAT RETENTION POND. AND I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE, THE HAWKWOOD WAS ALL THE OPPROBRIUM AROUND THAT. AND I SEE [INAUDIBLE]. SO I ASSUME HE'S THE PERSON HANDLING THE WATER ON THIS AS WELL. SO THAT'S CORRECT. I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HANDLE THE ANY RUNOFF THAT WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY. YES. HE'S ASSURED ME THAT THAT THE SIZE THAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS SUFFICIENT. HOPEFULLY IT CAN BE CONDENSED A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE WILL BUILD WHAT IS REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR ANY ADDITIONAL EFFECT ON, ON THE CHANNEL THAT GOES THROUGH SOUTHLAKE WOODS OR THEN THROUGH HAWKWOOD. WE NEED ANYTHING FROM [INAUDIBLE]. HE'S HERE. WE'RE GOOD. HE'S RARING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT DRAINAGE, I CAN TELL. I'M SURE YOU'RE HERE. YOU MIGHT AS WELL COME ON DOWN. AND AGAIN, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN MAYBE FOLLOW UP ON COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH'S QUESTION. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RICH [INAUDIBLE]. I LIVE AT 112 KEYSTONE. AND COINCIDENTALLY, MY OFFICE IS AT 112 KEYSTONE IN SOUTHLAKE. SO I DID DO THE DRAINAGE ON HAWKWOOD, AND THAT COMES UP IN EVERY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THE SAME IS WITH HAWKWOOD GETTING THAT APPROVED. I TOLD MR. MARCUS AT THE TIME THAT WE NEEDED TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS BEFORE WE DID PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AND PLANNING ON IT. WHICH COST DID THAT? I APPROACHED THIS WAS THE SAME WATERSHED. IT'S THE SAME TRIBUTARY, AND I DID THE SAME THING. I'VE GONE BACK THROUGH EVERYTHING. AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T PUBLISHED ALL OF THE DATA YET I HAVE CONFIRMED AND DOUBLE CHECKED THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE WITH THE DRAINAGE HERE TOO, AND MADE SURE I WAS ADDRESSING EVERY PROBLEM I COULD THINK OF UP FRONT. SO LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT I WAS MAKING REFERENCE TO HAVING BEEN ASSURED THAT YOU HAD HANDLED HAWKWOOD, AND YOU'LL DO THE SAME FOR THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GUYS. I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON ITEM 7.B. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH OR ANYONE ELSE? NO. I'LL JUST ADD WHAT MY THOUGHTS I GET THE CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT THROUGH THE EASTERN ENTRANCE, JUST EYEBALLING IT HERE. IT'S JUST AS EASY TO GO BACK OUT THE WESTERN ENTRANCE, EVEN IF YOU'RE AT THE HOUSE. THE ADDRESS CLOSEST TO THE CARROLL HIGH SCHOOL. CARROLL SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL SIDE. I DON'T THAT DOESN'T CONCERN ME A LOT. DOESN'T GIVE ME A WHOLE LOT OF INDIGESTION. [02:35:01] I GET THE WHOLE LOT SIZE CONCERN. LET'S FACE IT, NOT EVERYBODY MOVING HERE NOW WANTS A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT. I LOVE THIS DEVELOPMENT. I LOVE THE WAY THE HOUSES LOOK. I LOVE THE MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. I DON'T NOTHING ABOUT BETTER GIVES ME INDIGESTION. THANK YOU. I LIKE THAT HE'S. THEY'VE THOUGHT THROUGH THE LAND USE PLAN WITH THE COMMERCIAL FACING SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD. AND THEN SOME RESIDENTIAL ON THE INSIDE. THE LOT SIZES DO GIVE ME SOME INDIGESTION. SO MY ONE THING WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE AT THE LIMIT, OR CAN WE REDUCE A LITTLE BIT? CAN WE, CAN WE CUT SOME LOTS OUT AND STILL MAKE IT FEASIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO, TO MOVE FORWARD? I DO LIKE THE, THE ENTRANCES AND ALL THE FLOW. THEY'VE THOUGHT THROUGH ALL OF THAT. SO THE ONLY, THE ONLY INDIGESTION FOR ME IS THE LOT SIZES. I'LL GO NEXT BECAUSE I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER LEPP SAID. I LIKE THE OFFICE AND THE RESTAURANT ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD. I THINK THAT LOOKS GOOD. I THINK IT'LL DO REALLY WELL. BUT GOING BACK TO THE LOT SIZES, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THESE WHERE WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, 6000 7000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ON DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST END OF TOWN. NOW WE'RE ON THE WEST END OF TOWN. YOU KNOW, I'M READY TO START GOING BACK TO THE HAVING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT RESIDENTIAL LOT SIZES BEING IN TERMS OF ACREAGE, WHETHER IT'S A HALF ACRE, LIKE WHAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS AT SOUTHLAKE WOODS OR QUARTER ACRES. YOU KNOW, 10,000 PLUS SQUARE FOOT LOTS. IT'S KIND OF A TRANSITION FROM SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD INTO THE EXISTING SOUTHLAKE WOODS NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT I CAN'T SUPPORT THE 6000 7000 SQUARE FOOT RESIDENTIAL LOTS. I HOPE THERE'S WIGGLE ROOM ON THAT FOR YOU ALL TO GET TO THAT QUARTER ACRE, 10,000 PLUS SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK THIS MATCHES UP WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT TO THE SOUTH THAT'S ALREADY THERE. SO THE COMMERCIAL LOOKS GOOD. RESIDENTIAL NEEDS SOME WORK. IS WHERE I'M AT. YEAH, I AGREE. I LIKE THE THE COMMERCIAL PIECE ON 1709. I LIKE THE ENTRANCES ON THE EAST AND WEST. I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE OTHERWISE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF IT. THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AND THE PATHWAY, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT CORRIDOR. BUT I TOO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT RESIDENTIAL LOT SIZE. SO THAT'S GIVING ME SOME HEARTBURN AS WELL. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NICE LOOKING DEVELOPMENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE EACH OF THESE DEVELOPMENT PIECES ARE, YOU KNOW, AS THE MAYOR JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PLACES OF TOWN, DIFFERENT THINGS SEEM BETTER FITS. SO. COUNCILMEMBER ROBBINS I DON'T HAVE A TON OF HEARTBURN ABOUT THIS. I TOTALLY AGREE, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT THE LOT SIZE PIECE. I GUESS THE ONE THING I WOULD ASK IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CUT OUT A FEW LOTS, THIS, THIS GREEN SPACE IN BETWEEN THE ISLAND LOTS JUST KIND OF SEEMS. I'M NOT A DEVELOPER, BUT IT JUST SEEMS KIND OF AWKWARD TO ME. I'VE LIVED IN ISLAND LOTS BEFORE AND IT JUST IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE JUST ADDING SPACE THAT'S TAKING AWAY FROM LOT SIZES FOR KIND OF NO REASON. LIKE IF PEOPLE ARE, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO WALK THAT TRAIL, BECAUSE I ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SIDEWALKS ON ALL OF IT. SO JUST THAT PIECE, I'D RATHER SEE THAT LAND GO TO LOT SIZES THAN JUST THAN THAT. I MEAN, I KNOW IT SOUNDS CRAZY TO TAKE AWAY OPEN SPACE FROM THAT STANDPOINT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY OPEN SPACE TO ME. I LIKE THE RETENTION POND. I LIKE THE, THE THE RETAIL UP TOP. BUT I JUST THINK THAT GETTING THE LOT SIZE IS AS BIG AS YOU CAN AND DOING THE BEST YOU CAN IS WHAT WE'D ALL ASK FOR ON THAT, I AGREE. OH GO AHEAD FRANCES YEAH, EXCUSE ME, I AGREE ON LOT SIZE. I THINK THEY'RE TOO SMALL. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SOUTH, AND I THINK THEY'RE TOO SMALL. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THE LOT SIZE, THE LOTS REDUCED. MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMSON. SORRY. YEAH. NO. SO ACTUALLY, COUNCILMEMBER ROBBINS, THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE THAT THAT GREEN SPACE IN BETWEEN IT, YOU'LL BE WALKING IN BETWEEN FENCES BASICALLY. I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SIDEWALK RIGHT IN BETWEEN FENCES ON THE BACKYARD. IT'S GOING TO BE AN ALMOST AN ALLEY WALKING THROUGH THAT. SO I AGREE, IT'S A GOOD CATCH. YEAH. I MEAN, IT FEELS LIKE IT FEELS LIKE ALL THESE, ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS BEGIN THE SAME WAY, WHICH IS CRAM ABSOLUTELY AS MANY LOTS AS YOU CAN. AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CURTIS FOR A LONG TIME, SO I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, BUT I IT'S KIND OF LIKE, LET'S JUST CRAM AS MUCH IN HERE AS WE CAN. WE KNOW THERE'S NO WAY THE COUNCIL WILL APPROVE IT WITH THIS MANY LOTS CRAMMED IN THERE. SO THAT'S OUR STARTING POINT. AND WE'LL WORK DOWN FROM HERE. I MEAN, I SEE YOU LAUGHING, CURTIS. I'VE BEEN WITH YOU FOR YEARS NOW, SO AND THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE, BUT I'M SIMPLY SAYING ALL OF THESE BEGIN THIS. [02:40:06] WE'LL LET YOU COME BACK UP HERE IN A MINUTE. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, HERE, WE'RE STARTING HERE WHERE WE'RE REALLY GOING TO LAND ON. BUT I WILL SAY THE COMMERCIAL I THINK IS BRILLIANT. IF THIS APPLICATION CAME JUST COMMERCIAL WITHOUT ANY RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE LIKE, OH MAN, THAT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. SO I LIKE YOUR COMMERCIAL TON, BUT I CAN'T GET MY HEAD AROUND 7000. THERE'S A SIXTH OF AN ACRE LOTS WITH $2.5 MILLION HOME JAMMED IN. NO. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. SO YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF OUR COMMENTS. IF YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM DIRECTLY, GO AHEAD. BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, LET ME JUST COMMENT ON THIS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HERE IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS APPROVED SEVERAL, A COUPLE OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THIS IN LOT SIZE AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SOME ARE ACTUALLY EVEN SMALLER THAN THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT ALMOST FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT, SINCE WE REALLY ONLY HAVE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS TO OUR SOUTH. WE HAVE OFFICE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST INDUSTRIAL. TO OUR WEST, WE HAVE OFFICE TO OUR EAST. AND, YOU KNOW, MAJOR ROADS AROUND US HERE, THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY EVEN A BETTER PLACE THAN PERHAPS SOME OF THOSE OTHERS WERE FOR LOTS OF THIS SIZE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO, OF COURSE, IS GET THESE THINGS AT A PRICE WHERE A FAMILY CAN PURCHASE THEM. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF SEE THIS AS THE SECOND SOUTHLAKE HOME WHERE SOMEONE COULD COME IN HERE, THEIR KIDS ARE APPROACHING HIGH SCHOOL AGE. THEY COULD COME IN HERE AND LIVE IN A TOP-QUALITY HOME AND BE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE, OF THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO THAT'S, THAT WAS THAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND THIS LOT SIZE HERE. THE BIGGER THEY GET, THE, YOU KNOW, THE MORE EXPENSIVE HOUSE YOU HAVE ON IT. AND I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE $5 MILLION HOMES WE CAN HAVE FAMILIES EXPECT TO LIVE IN. YOU KNOW, NEW HOMES IN SOUTHLAKE. BUT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF YOU THAT HAVE HINTED AT THIS AND YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE COULD GET BY, YOU KNOW, REDUCING THE LOT COUNT DOWN TO ABOUT 25. WE THINK WE COULD GET AND, AND IF WE ELIMINATE IF YOU, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE OPEN SPACE BACK THERE, BUT IF WE WERE, IF WE WANTED TO ELIMINATE THE OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THOSE, THOSE LOTS IN THE MIDDLE THERE, AS COUNCILMAN ROBINS SUGGESTS, AND RANDY AGREED WITH THEN I THINK WE COULD GET AWFULLY CLOSE TO AN AVERAGE OF 10,000FT² ON THIS BY REDUCING THE LOT COUNT BY FIVE FROM 30 TO 25. THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION. THE LOTS WOULD GET WIDER TO SAY 60FT AND 25 LOTS. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD GET CERTAINLY WELL OVER 9000FT², POSSIBLY WITHOUT THAT OPEN SPACE THERE. AROUND 10,000FT² ON AN AVERAGE LOT SIZE, SOME LARGER, SOME SMALLER, BUT ON AVERAGE. AND I THINK MAYBE THAT GETS TO YOUR COMMENTS. MAYOR. OKAY. WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TABLE OR IF YOU'RE PREPARED FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO PROBABLY TWEAK THE MOTION TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE IT, BUT WITH, SAY, NO MORE THAN 25 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WHICH YOU'LL RECONFIGURE. AND YOU CAN HAVE TWO OPTIONS WITH THE GREEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE OR NO GREEN SPACE HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PRESENT IT. BUT WE CAN MOVE IT ALONG, I THINK, TO SECOND READING WITH THAT KIND OF NOTE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT AT MAXIMUM 25 LOTS, AND WE'RE THE GOAL IS TO BE CLOSER TO OR ABOVE 10,000FT². WELL, LOTS. THIS IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS. THIS WAS A PLAN THAT WAS FRESH OFF. LOOK AT THAT. FRESH OFF THE. THAT WAS QUICK. I MEAN, YOU JUST CAME UP WITH THIS ON THE FLY. I MEAN, THAT'S IT'S A MIRACLE. HE USED THE NEW IPHONE FOR THAT. YEAH. WELL, I IT IS. THAT'S RIGHT. THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE WHO HAVE SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO US, WE'VE GOT SOME INPUT HERE IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO THAT'S A RESPONSE TO THIS. BUT THIS IS 25 LOTS. THERE'S 60FT MINIMUM WIDTH MORE IN THE CORNER. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS 9238. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER. YOU GIVE US YOU GIVE US INPUT IF WE WANT TO TAKE AWAY THE THE OPEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE THERE. I THINK THESE WOULD, WOULD BE AWFULLY CLOSE TO. WELL, SEEING HOW FAST YOU GOT THIS PREPARED, I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY DO ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE FOR SECOND READING WITH ELIMINATING THAT GREEN SPACE, AND WE SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UNLESS YOU ALREADY HAVE IT. [02:45:02] BUT I WOULD YOU KNOW, 10,000 IN THE QUARTER ACRE IS SORT OF THE LINE IN THE SAND. SO IF I'M HAPPY TO VOTE ON, YOU KNOW, A 25 ACRE THING FOR FIRST READING, NOTING THAT THERE'S SOME HOMEWORK TO DO BEFORE SECOND READING, AND YOU KNOW THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER. I DON'T WANT TO HOLD IT UP AND CARRY IT INTO JANUARY. SO I'M HAPPY TO VOTE FOR A 25 ACRE PLAN WITH SOME TWEAKS FOR SECOND READING AND 25 LOT PLANS. 25 LOTS. SORRY. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, WE'LL MOVE IT FORWARD. AND LET ME, LET ME THROW OUT A SUGGESTION TO HELP A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, THAT MIDDLE PIECE? I MEAN, I KNOW COUNCILMAN ROBBINS AND I KNOW ONE SAID AS OPPOSED TO THAT WHAT DOES COUNCIL THINK? WHAT DO YOU THINK, CURTIS, ABOUT THE FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER? I GET YOUR GREEN SPACE DOWN THERE TO BE A BIT OF A BUFFER FROM THOSE HANDFUL OF HOMES, BUT YOU DO HAVE SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE RIGHT THERE. I JUST WONDER IF PEELING THAT OFF AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT PART OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE GIVES YOU SOME ROOM TO WORK, GET YOU SOME MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND YOU STILL HAVE THAT ENTIRE POND. THAT WHOLE AREA IS SURROUNDED BY GREEN SPACE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNCIL THINKS. WE COULD CERTAINLY MINIMIZE THAT A LITTLE BIT, THOUGH. BUT YOU KNOW, I STOOD IN THE BACKYARD OF THE NEIGHBOR THAT LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT AND TOLD HIM THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE OPEN SPACE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE YARD THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK ON THAT. NO, I APPRECIATE YOUR INTEGRITY ON THAT. IT JUST, IT CAUSES YOUR JOB TO BE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE PER THE MAYOR'S COMMENT YOU KNOW, I AM GOING TO PUT IN THE MOTION WITH A STRONG PREFERENCE NOTED BY COUNCIL OF 10,000 BEING THE AVERAGE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK TO MAKE A REAL HARD STAB AT. OKAY. THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT A 30 FOOT WIDE SPOT THERE, 30, 35 FOOT ON THAT CORNER THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE TO IT'S 45 IN THIS RENDITION. SO YEAH, EVEN IF YOU TOOK IT TO I THINK 15 OR 20 JUST TO GET I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBOR WANTING A BUFFER, AND I TOTALLY GET THAT AND WOULD WANT TO RESPECT THAT, BUT 45 IS A BIG BUFFER. THAT'S ALL IT IS. THAT'S A LOT OF SPACE. IT'S ALMOST A WHOLE LOT SITTING OUT THERE. YEAH. CURTIS I KNOW WHEN WE MET YOU TALKED ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THE LOTS AND YOU SAID THAT YOU'VE DONE THAT BEFORE IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN COLLEYVILLE OR WHEREVER. ONCE PEOPLE MOVE IN, DO THEY APPRECIATE AND ENJOY THAT SPACE BEHIND THEM? BECAUSE I KNOW IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE SIDEWALK, BUT, I MEAN, YOU WERE SAYING IT'S LIKE 50FT, WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF A NICE SPACE. YEAH, IT'S A NICE SPACE. YOU KNOW, HIDDEN KNOLL IN SOUTHLAKE HAS AN OPEN SPACE DOWN THE MIDDLE BEHIND THOSE LOTS. IT'S KIND OF A LOOP ROAD AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE ONE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE PREVIOUS CASE. NOW, THERE'S ALSO SOME ELEVATION CHANGE THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DID THE EXACT SAME THING THERE, FOR EXAMPLE. SO, THERE'S A SOUTHLAKE EXAMPLE FOR YOU. YEAH, I THINK, I MEAN, I DO I LIKE THE IDEA OF SEEING BOTH PLANS ON SECOND READING, SO WE CAN DETERMINE LOT SIZE AND WHAT WE GET OUT OF TWEAKING IT A LITTLE BIT. SURE. I THINK I'M ON THE FENCE. ON, ON. DOES IT MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IF IT'S GOING TO ADD 500FT PER LOT, THEN MAYBE IT DOES, BUT WE JUST PROBABLY NEED TO SEE IT. OKAY. MORE OPTIONS, THE BETTER. I'LL BRING YOU BOTH. ALL RIGHT. YEAH I AGREE I THINK I MEAN, IF I WAS GOING TO LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE HOUSES, IT WOULD BE PREFERABLE, I THINK, NOT TO JUST DIRECTLY SHARE THE FENCE IN THE BACK. AND SO SOME I THINK SOME VERSION OF THAT ISN'T A BAD IDEA. BUT TO AMY'S POINT, OPTIONS ARE ALWAYS GREAT. WELL, I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ISLAND PORTION, I'M JUST EYEBALLING IT HERE. BUT IF IT'S TO SCALE, I MEAN, JUST THAT LITTLE GREEN SPACE GIVING THAT UP, YOU'RE PICKING UP ABOUT 15,000FT² IN JUST THAT LITTLE SPACE YOU'RE PICKING, YOU KNOW, SO YOU AGAIN, YOU'RE THE EXPERT. BUT YOU GOT 12 THERE. THE EYEBALL TO ME SAYS IF YOU GO DOWN TO TEN AND YOU PICK UP 15,000 SQUARE FEET, THOSE LOTS GET MUCH BIGGER VERY QUICKLY. THEY WOULD APPROACH 10,000. YEAH. OR EXCEEDED? POSSIBLY. SO. YEAH. AND I THINK WERE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING WROUGHT IRON FENCING ON THOSE BACK PIECES ON THOSE HOUSES? I MEAN, YES. WHERE THEY WHERE THEY WERE BACK TO THE OPEN SPACE. YEAH. BUT I THINK IF I, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN THAT HOMEOWNER JUST PUTTING A WOOD FENCE THERE FOR PRIVACY. THAT DOESN'T REALLY THAT NEGATES THE NEED FOR THE GREEN SPACE AT ALL ALMOST. BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL EVEN WITH THE GREEN SPACE, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO SEE WITH THE WROUGHT IRON, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO SEE INTO YOUR NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD UNLESS YOU PUT ENOUGH GREENERY UP TO STOP IT. SO I PERSONALLY THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD RATHER HAVE WOOD FENCE WITHOUT LINE OF SIGHT THAN WROUGHT IRON LOOKING INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S BACKYARD. WELL, WE'LL BRING BOTH OPTIONS AND LET YOU ALL DECIDE. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS. SO. MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMSON, DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED AS FAR AS A MOTION THAT'S TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT COMPARED TO THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION. YEAH, I THINK WE'RE TALKING 25 LOTS. YEAH, 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. MULTIPLE OPTIONS. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO. [02:50:01] I KNOW WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT FENCING. ANYTHING RELATED TO FENCING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE STAFF REPORT OR THE COMMERCIAL OR WE. EVERYONE OKAY WITH GATES AND ALL THAT? ON BOTH SIDES, EAST AND WEST? OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT. SO. OKAY. OKAY. YES. MAYOR COUNCIL, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. ITEM SEVEN B, ORDINANCE NUMBER 480825240059. FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CARROLL CROSSING ON PROPERTY, DESCRIBED AS TRACKS 3.D AND 302W REV SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 500 AND LOCATED AT 1963 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND 200 SOUTH PATTONSVILLE AVENUE. SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024 AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024. NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING A ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FROM SP1 DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT AND OH ONE OFFICE DISTRICT TO TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT AS PRESENTED. ALSO NOTING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO PRESENT AT SECOND READING A PLAN THAT WOULD REDUCE THE LOTS TO A MAXIMUM OF 25 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WITH A COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION OF MINIMUM SIZE OF LOTS TO BE 10,000FT², AND NOTING AGAIN FOR THE APPLICANT COUNCIL'S GENERAL APPROVAL OF CONSIDERING REMOVING THE GREEN SPACE AS PRESENTED TONIGHT FROM THE ISLAND RESIDENCE SECTION. IF WARRANTED BY THE APPLICANT. OKAY. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SORRY. HAVE YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN RECORD IT? CAN WE HAVE AN AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF 10,000? THAT'S WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO. AS OPPOSED TO MINIMUM LOT SIZE. WHERE ARE YOU GUYS AT? I'D SAY LET'S GO FOR MINIMUM. LET'S TRY THAT. THAT'S WHERE I AM. I'M OKAY WITH THE AVERAGE. JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY ON SOME OF THOSE SOME OF THOSE LOTS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME LOTS THAT ARE 12. I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE MAYOR WHAT HIS PREFERENCE IS AND OTHERS. I MEAN, FOR ME, IF YOU SHOWED UP AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT AT 98, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING IS PROBABLY NOT A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME. BUT I WOULD SHOOT HARD FOR WHAT THE GOAL IS. MINIMUM TEN. BUT IF ONE COMES IN AT 98, 100, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. I THINK THE CHALLENGE GOAL AVERAGE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR CORNERS, THOSE COUPLE OF BIG CORNER ONES, YOU KNOW, YOU PILE INTO THAT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE AVERAGE IS WHERE YOU WANT IT. BUT THREE QUARTERS OF THE LOTS ARE BELOW THE 10,000. SO, CURTIS, WE THINK YOU CAN DO YOUR BEST. I'LL DO MY BEST, BUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GO LESS THAN 25 LOTS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO OUR BEST AND GET THEM AS LARGE AS POSSIBLE AND BRING THEM BACK TO YOU. PERFECT. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO I THINK WE HAD A MOTION. I THINK WE HAD A SECOND FROM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM CAST YOUR VOTES. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE ON DECEMBER 3RD. I THINK IT IS DECEMBER 3RD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. ITEM EIGHT, A RESOLUTION. NUMBER 24, DASH 040. [8.A. Resolution No. 24-040, casting votes for the Tarrant Appraisal District Board of Directors. ] CASTING VOTES FOR THE TARRANT APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I'LL HANDLE THIS ONE. THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE HAS 32 VOTES THAT CAN BE CAST FOR ONE NOMINEE OR DISTRIBUTED AMONG MULTIPLE NOMINEES. I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND, BASED ON A RECOMMENDATION FROM AN EXISTING TZD BOARD OF DIRECTOR MEMBER THAT WE ALLOCATE OUR 32 VOTES TO MIKE ALFRED. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? THAT WAS EASY. ANY DISCUSSION AND IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ONE. WITH THAT, MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMSON, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM 8.A. YES, MAYOR COUNCIL, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM EIGHT A RESOLUTION NUMBER 24040 CASTING VOTES FOR THE TARRANT APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND NOTING THAT WE ARE CASTING ALL 32 VOTES FOR NOMINEE MR. MIKE ALFRED. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. NEXT UP IS ITEM 8.B RESOLUTION NUMBER 24-042 CASTING VOTES. [8.B. Resolution No. 24-042, casting votes for the Denton Central Appraisal District Board of Directors. ] OR I THINK IT'S ONE VOTE FOR THE DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE VOTE ON THIS ONE. WE HAVE A LIST OF APPLICANTS. TWO OF THEM SUBMITTED RESUMES, MR. ROB ALTMAN AND MR. RAY MARTIN. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON CASTING OUR ONE VOTE? I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST ONE OF THE TWO THAT SUBMITTED A RESUME. MR. ALTMAN OR MR. MARTIN, BUT I DON'T KNOW EITHER OF THEM, SO. [02:55:01] WE'LL LET THE MAYOR PRO TEM MAKE THE MOTION AND PICK THAT BIG ONE VOTE THAT MIGHT SWAY THE ELECTION. OKAY. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. ITEM EIGHT BE RESOLUTION NUMBER 24-042. CASTING VOTES FOR THE DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. AND NOTE THAT NOTING THAT WE WILL BE CASTING OUR SMALL BUT MIGHTY ONE VOTE FOR MR. RAY MARTIN. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES. THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT MOTION. AND IT CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WELL DONE. NEXT UP IS ITEM NINE, A CASE NUMBER SB 24 40010 SIGN VARIANCES FOR KIDS PEDIATRICS AT 2813 [9.A. $V24-0011, Sign Variances for Kidsville Pediatrics located at 2813 W. Southlake Blvd., Suite 100. ] WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SUITE 100, HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. AND DIRECTOR KILLOUGH WILL LEAD US THROUGH THAT. THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS A REQUEST, AS YOU MENTIONED, FOR A SIGN VARIANCE AT 2813 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SUITE 100 FOR KIDSVILLE PEDIATRICS. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WATERMAN DRIVE AND WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, REFERRED TO AS WATERMAN MEDICAL FACILITY. THE PARTICULAR TENANT IS LOCATED IN THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS AN AERIAL EXHIBIT SHOWING THE PROPOSED REQUEST. THE TENANT HAS PLACED IN FRONT OF THEIR EAST AND SOUTH PORTIONS OF THEIR OFFICE SPACE. SOME, STATUES OF ANIMALS, WHICH IS IN ESSENCE A SIGN ADVERTISING AND DRAWING ATTENTION TO THE BUSINESS. WHAT THEY HAVE PUT IN PLACE ARE ON THE SOUTH ENTRY INTO THE BUILDING. A PANDA AND AN ELEPHANT. THESE ARE NOT IDENTIFIED OR PERMITTED SIGN TYPES, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL TO ALLOW THOSE TO REMAIN. THERE IS ANOTHER ELEPHANT ON THE EAST DOOR FACING BACK TOWARDS WATERMAN DRIVE. LIKEWISE, NOT A PERMITTED SIGN TYPE AND THESE ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE STATUE. ONCE AGAIN, SOME OTHER VIEWS OF THE BUILDING. AND EAST WEST. VIEWS OF THAT BUILDING. THESE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER PEDIATRIC PRACTICE LOCATIONS WHICH THEY HAVE PUT IN PLACE SIMILAR ANIMAL STATUES AT THOSE LOCATIONS. SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR ONE SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE PROVIDED. I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW OFTEN DOES A SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY IN PLACE, AND NOW WE'RE APPROVING IT? I WOULD NOT SAY THERE'S A HIGH FREQUENCY OF THAT. AND I THINK IN THEIR MIND, THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT THIS FELL UNDER A SIGN REGULATION IN THIS PARTICULAR USE. I MEAN, I GET THAT THAT WOULD BE FUN FOR A KID TO SEE WHEN THEY'RE COMING. YOU KNOW, KIDS ARE KIND OF TRAUMATIZED WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO THE DOCTOR, AND I THINK IT'S A NICE TOUCH, BUT I DON'T LIKE IS THAT NEXT TIME, IF WE DRIVE-BYS ARE GOING TO BE THREE MORE, AND DOES THE APPLICANT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DO NEED PERMISSION? SO ON THE SIGN BOARD VOTE, IT WAS 4 TO 1. WAS COMMISSIONER SPRINGER'S VOTE AGAINST THE ANIMAL STATUES OR WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE SIGN PACKAGE OR. I THINK IT WAS JUST AGAINST THE THE ANIMAL OR THE NEED FOR THEM THERE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE APPLICANT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? YOU WANT TO TABLE IT OR GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON IT? IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE WILL NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE. I SAY VOTE. OKAY, WE HAVE ONE VOTE FOR VOTE. I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THAT. I JUST THAT DOESN'T FIT. LIKE FOR ME, IF IT WERE SOMETHING THAT TIED IN WITH THE REST OF SOUTHLAKE LIKE IF LIKE YOU SAW EVEN THE ONE IN MANSFIELD HAD A LONGHORN, IF IT WERE ONE OF OUR LONGHORNS THAT WAS DESIGNED BY SOMEONE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE AND TIED INTO THE REST OF SOUTHLAKE, THAT'D BE A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT THIS JUST LOOKS KIND OF RANDOM TO ME. YEAH, I'M NOT A FAN. I'M NOT A FAN. ALL RIGHT, SO, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH, THIS WOULD BE THEN, A CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUE. IF WE IF THERE'S A MOTION TO DENY THAT CARRIES, WE'D HAVE TO. [03:00:03] SOMEONE FROM THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO GO LET THEM KNOW TO TAKE IT OUT. YEAH. WE WOULD NOTIFY THEM AND ISSUE HIM A CITATION WITH A REASONABLE TIME PERIOD TO REMOVE THE STRUCTURES. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMSON, BY THE WAY, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS. I MY PROBLEM IS MORE IN THE PRECEDENCE THAT ONCE YOU ONCE YOU START, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE AND HARD TO STOP. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT I SEE HERE. MORE SO IT'S ABOUT YEAH SETTING THAT PRECEDENT. SO WITH THAT I MOVE THAT WE DENY ITEM NINE A SB 240011 SIGNED VARIANCE FOR KIDSVILLE PEDIATRICS LOCATED AT 2813 WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SUITE 100. AND THAT'S A MOTION TO DENY. SO A YES VOTE WILL BE TO DENY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND CAST YOUR VOTES. AND THAT MOTION TO DENY NINE A CARRY SEVEN ZERO. AND THAT IS DENIED. NEXT UP, ITEM 9.B CASE NUMBER SB 24-0014. [9.B. $V24-0014, Sign Variances for Executive Medicine, located at 2106 E. S.H. 114, Suite 300. ] SIGN VARIANCES FOR EXECUTIVE MEDICINE LOCATED AT 2106 EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114, SUITE 300 HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. SORRY THAT YOU ALL HAD TO WAIT TILL THE END OF THE MEETING. ALMOST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THIS IS BETTER KNOWN AS KELLER WILLIAMS OFFICE BUILDING WITHIN THE KIMBALL PARK DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS AN EXHIBIT SHOWING WHAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED AS A UPPER STORY. SIGNS ON THE BUILDING. THIS WOULD BE THE FIFTH APPROVED UPPER STOREY BUILDING. IF SO APPROVED. I BELIEVE AT LEAST FROM THE VISUALS WE HAVE ON THIS, I'M NOT SURE THIS ONE HAS EVER BEEN INSTALLED, ALTHOUGH IT'S ENTITLED. I BELIEVE THERE IS A FIRST STORY SIGN IN ROUGHLY THAT LOCATION THAT DOES CONFORM WITH THE SIGN REGULATIONS. UPPER STORY SIGNS ARE ONLY PERMITTED IF APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED ADDITIONAL SIGN. IT CONFORMS EXCEPT FOR ITS PLACEMENT BEING CONGRUENT WITH THE ACTUAL LEASE SPACE, WHICH IS THIS FLOOR AREA HERE. IT'S ACTUALLY BELOW THE LEASE SPACE. IT DOES CONFORM WITH ALL THE OTHER REGULATIONS FOR A ATTACHED SIGN. A DETAIL OF THAT. AND THEN JUST A 360 VIEW ROUGHLY OF THE EXISTING SIGNS IN PLACE. THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION, WHICH IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THAT UPPER SIGN'S BEEN INSTALLED HERE, BUT I DO BELIEVE IT. IF THE TENANT IS STILL THERE. THERE IS A LOWER STORY SIGN AT THAT LOCATION. NO. NO SIGNS HERE ON THE WEST. AND ONCE AGAIN, SOME DETAILS OF THAT. THERE IS THE FIRST STOREY SIGN ON THIS EXHIBIT. THIS IS NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED DENIAL. FOR ONE THE APPLICANT INITIALLY WAS AT THE MEETING, BUT LEFT PRIOR TO THE ITEM COMING ON, SO THEY WERE NOT AT THE MEETING TO REPRESENT THE ITEM. AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. SO THE ISSUE IS THE SPACE THAT'S BEING OCCUPIED IS THE THIRD FLOOR, BUT THE PROPOSED SIGN IS CONSIDERED SECOND FLOOR. SECOND STORY. CORRECT? YES. AND IS THERE AN ACTUAL SIGN? IS THERE AN ACTUAL SIGN ON THE THIRD FLOOR? LIKE, COULD THIS JUST BE MOVED UP OR IS THERE SOMETHING ALREADY THERE? NO, THIS IS JUST A LABEL, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SPACE. SO THERE IS NOT A SIGN CURRENTLY. OKAY. HERE. SO IT'S NOT THAT SOMEONE ELSE ALREADY HAS THAT SIGN SPACE. OKAY. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. AND THEY DON'T HAVE APPROVAL FOR ONE. AND WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT ON THAT ISSUE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH? YEAH. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THE PACKET SAYS IT WAS DENIED FIVE ZERO AND YOU PUT UP FOUR ONE. JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. I WILL RELY ON WHAT THE PACKET SAYS. SO DENIED FIVE ZERO. OKAY. MY. YOU ARE LIKELY CORRECT. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK YOU JUST SPOKE TO IT. IT WAS PRIMARILY THE LOCATION, THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL? YEAH. AND ROUGHLY JUST THE NUMBER OF UPPER STOREY SIGNS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PUT IN PLACE THERE. [03:05:05] THANK YOU. IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE SIGN BOARD WAS NOT THE APPLICANT WAS NOT THERE. RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT. YES. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH? GO AHEAD. IS THIS IS EXECUTIVE MEDICINE. WHAT FLOOR IS EXECUTIVE MEDICINE ON? THIRD. THIRD. YES. YES. IT'S CLEAN. OKAY. THAT SEEMS. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK ON ITEM NINE B. AND IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAMES AND ADDRESSES FOR THE RECORD. AND THEN GO AHEAD AND TELL US ABOUT THE APPLICATION. MY NAME IS BOB WILLIAMS. I'M AT 1625 SOUTH MAIN STREET IN KELLER. 76248. JUDY GAMMON I'M AT 545 TRUE LOVE TRAIL HERE IN SOUTHLAKE BEEN A RESIDENT SINCE 1998. AND JUDY, I GOT A COMMENT CARD FOR YOU. IT SAYS 9.D AS IN DALLAS. I THINK IT PROBABLY MEANT THIS 9.B. IS THAT RIGHT? IT DID MEAN THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO FIX THAT IN THE RECORD. AND THAT OF COURSE WAS SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM 9.B. SO WE'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE FOR YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. I'M GOING TO LET MY SIGN GUY TALK. BUT BEFORE I DO, I'D LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS YOU FIRST OF ALL. AND THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S LATE. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN SOUTHLAKE FOR SO LONG, AND JUST YOU GUYS STAYING AND TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR THIS. I APPRECIATE THIS SO MUCH. I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE STORY BEHIND EXECUTIVE MEDICINE, WHICH I WON'T TAKE UP MUCH TIME, BUT I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY PLANNING AND ZONING WERE INACCURATE. AND I WANT TO JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT. EXECUTIVE MEDICINE CAME TO EXISTENCE IN 2005 ON SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD IN THE HOSPITAL OFFICE BUILDING, AND WE OUTGREW THAT SPACE VERY QUICKLY. AND THEN WE WERE THE SECOND TENANT TO EVER SIGN WITH JEFF MEDICI IN THIS CURRENT BUILDING. AT THE TIME, I HAD ASKED FOR SIGNAGE, AND HE SAID THAT SIGNAGE WAS GOING TO BE RESERVED FOR THE TENANTS WITH THE MOST SPACE, SO HE COULD NOT GIVE ME SIGNAGE AT THAT TIME. AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE EXPANDED. WE STARTED WITH 7700FT², WE EXPANDED INTO OUR SECOND EXPANSION, AND THEN WE JUST DID OUR THIRD EXPANSION, WHICH WERE OVER 13,000FT². AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED TO JEFF ABOUT IT, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, DO WE WANT TO GO BUILD OUR OWN BUILDING OR DO WE WANT TO STAY HERE AND EXPAND? THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT WE GET FROM PATIENTS IS I CAN'T FIND YOU. WHY ISN'T YOUR SIGN ON THE BUILDING? AND I'M VERY SAD THAT IT GOT TURNED DOWN. I DID NOT KNOW THAT HE HAD LEFT THE MEETING PRIOR, SO MY APOLOGIES THAT THERE WAS NOT REPRESENTATION AT THE MEETING PREVIOUSLY. I COULD HAVE ANSWERED SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. I KNOW IT CAME UP THAT OUR PATIENTS ALL KNOW WHERE WE ARE AND WE'RE MEMBERSHIP ONLY. AND THAT WAS A REASON IT WAS DENIED AND THAT WAS DISCUSSED. THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY TRUE. WE ARE MEMBERSHIP BASED, BUT WE ALSO DO EXECUTIVE PHYSICALS AND WE SERVE SOME OF THE COMPANIES FROM AROUND THE GLOBE. MANY OF OUR PATIENTS FLY IN TO SEE US, AND THEY STAY AT THE LOCAL HOTELS. THEY SHOP IN DOWNTOWN AND THEY TRY TO FIND US AND SOMETIMES THEY SAY THE SAME THING. WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A SIGN IN YOUR BUILDING? AND IT'S NOT FOR US TO SAY, GO TO THE KELLER WILLIAMS BUILDING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR EXECUTIVE PHYSICAL. SO I HOPE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. BUT I DO KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS SPACING. IF YOU KNOW JEFF MEDICI, I WILL SAY ONE THING. WHY WE'RE BELOW AND NOT ABOVE IS BECAUSE HE LIKES THE SPACING AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH HIM. IF EXECUTIVE MEDICINE WAS RIGHT BELOW KELLER WILLIAMS, IT WOULD LOOK AWKWARD. NO SIGNS EVER GOING TO GO THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING BETWEEN US THAT'S GOING TO TAKE UP THAT SIGN SPACE. SO JUST TO MRS. GAMMONS' POINT, I HAD ACTUALLY MR. CARPENTER. CARPENTER REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY OF MOVING THE SIGN FROM THE SECOND LEVEL TO THE THIRD TO BE ABOVE THEIR SPACE, AND I REACHED OUT TO MR. MEDICI AND HIS ASSOCIATES THERE, AND THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT BACK FROM THEM AS I'VE LOST MY OH, THERE IT IS. THE RESPONSE I GOT BACK TO HIM WAS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT ON THE SECOND EYEBROW OF THE BUILDING WHERE IT WILL STILL BE ATTACHED TO THE EXECUTIVE MEDICINE SPACE, BUT THEY [03:10:01] WANTED TO KEEP IT THERE SO THAT THEY CAN ENSURE PROPER SPACING AND VISIBILITY AND AVOID ANY OVERLAP OR INTERFERENCE WITH ANY OTHER SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING. SO WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS HAVING THE SIGN AT THIS PARTICULAR SPACE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EXECUTIVE MEDICINE ABOVE IT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE I BELIEVE IT'S C.H. ROBINSON DIRECTLY ABOVE THAT. SO, SOMEBODY COMING IN AND WANTING, SAY, I WANT A THIRD EYEBROW WON'T BE ANYWHERE ON THEIR LEASE SPACE AREA. SO THIS MAINTAINS THAT IT MAINTAINS VISIBILITY FOR THEM WHICH AGAIN ADDRESSES THE COMPLAINT. THEY ARE ALMOST A QUARTER OF A MILE OFF OF 114. SO HAVING A SIGN THERE WOULD ALLOW NOT ONLY THEIR CUSTOMERS BUT OBVIOUSLY POTENTIAL NEW EMPLOYEES, VENDORS, THINGS LIKE THAT TO BE ABLE TO SEE AND LOCATE THEIR PROPERTY RELATIVELY QUICKLY. THIS IS LIKELY JUST KIND OF READING INTO A LITTLE FORECASTING THERE FROM MEDICIS PEOPLE. THIS IS LIKELY THE ONLY SIGN THAT WILL BE ON THIS BUILDING. THERE'S SOME SPACE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE MAIN ENTRY THAT MAY GET ADDRESSED AT ANOTHER TIME, BUT ON THE RIGHT SIDE IN THIS CONFIGURATION RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ALL WE EXPECT TO HAVE ON THE BUILDING. SO THE NOTION OF I THINK SOMEBODY IN THE SIGN REVIEW SAID WE DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME A BIG BILLBOARD. IT'S NOT GOING TO BECOME THAT. IT'S YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I THINK, THE LIMITATION ON AT LEAST THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE BUILDING. SO THE SIGN IS ACTUALLY WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, WE STARTED WITH A SIGN THAT SAID EXECUTIVE MEDICINE OF TEXAS. WE REALLY JAMMED A LOT OF INFORMATION INTO THAT LITTLE SPACE. WE'VE SINCE NOT ONLY ELIMINATED THE OF TEXAS, BUT WE ACTUALLY REDUCED THE SIZE OF THE LOGO AS WELL AS THE LETTERS JUST TO TRY TO MAKE IT AS, AS CONGRUENT AS POSSIBLE WITH NOT ONLY THE OTHER SIGNAGE IN THE AREA, BUT ALSO THE SPACE AVAILABLE. SO WE ASKED TO CONSIDER THE MOTION HERE TO ALLOW THE SIGN AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. I PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE LOOK OF THE SIGN. I'M JUST STILL CONFUSED ABOUT WHY IT HAS TO BE ON THE SECOND STORY. IS THERE NOBODY IN THE SECOND FLOOR? LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IF A NEW TENANT COMES IN? WHAT ARE WE DOING? SECOND FLOOR. KELLER WILLIAMS IS BELOW US ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THEIR FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR. SO NO ONE WOULD BE THERE. SO IT'S JUST EVENING THAT OUT. KELLER WILLIAMS SIGN BEING ON THE VERY TOP AND THEN US BEING THERE. WE ACTUALLY BETWEEN KELLER WILLIAMS OURSELVES AND C.H. ROBINSON, WE TAKE UP ALL OF THAT SPACE. SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANOTHER TENANT GOING IN THERE. THE ONLY THING THAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE TREES. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO COVER THAT SIGN. WE GET COMPLAINTS NOW THAT PEOPLE CAN'T SEE THE EXISTING SIGNS BECAUSE WE HAVE TREES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREE ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, IT'S ALREADY EXCEEDING WHERE YOUR SIGN IS. BUT IT WILL. JEFF WON'T LET YOU PUT IT ON THE SECOND FLOOR. I JUST THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BECOME INVISIBLE IN ABOUT TWO YEARS, BECAUSE THE TREES ARE GOING TO BLOCK IT. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT IS IS A VERY VALID POINT. WHEN I TALKED TO JEFF ABOUT THE TREES, THIS THESE PARTICULAR TREES AREN'T SUPPOSED TO GET VERY TALL, AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO TO GROOM THEM ACCORDINGLY. OF COURSE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN. SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT IF IF IT'S APPROVED, WE JUST GOT TO BE ON THE BUILDING, IF IT'S APPROVED TO GO UP ONE STORY AND WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO JEFF AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, THEN WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO. MY BOTTOM LINE IS MY PATIENTS HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO FIND US. AND THERE'S NOTHING WORSE WHEN THEY'RE STRESSED OUT ALREADY. AND THEN THEY CAN'T FIND US. AND IT'S JUST BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE. YEAH, WE GOT THAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE TO TALK TO JEFF MEDICI ABOUT THIS, BUT I WANT TO PUT THE SIGN ON THE THIRD LEVEL. BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR RULES. I THINK THE SIGN LOOKS GREAT. YOU KNOW, IF SOMEHOW SOMETHING HAPPENS TO KELLER WILLIAMS AND THEY CLEAR OUT OF THAT SECOND FLOOR, AND THEN THE NEXT TENANT COMES IN AND SAYS, OH, I WANT MY SIGN ON THERE NOW. AND THEN WE HAVE TO START MOVING SIGNS AROUND. AND WHY DID WE DO IT THAT WAY? SO I'M JUST MORE COMFORTABLE PUTTING IT WHERE IT SHOULD BE. IT'LL BE MORE VISIBLE FOR YOU WITH THE TREES OR JUST THE SIGHT LINE FROM 114 AND OR ALL AROUND KIMBALL PARK. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M IN FAVOR OF. WE'LL GIVE YOU THE SIGN, BUT IT'S GOING TO GO ON THE THIRD, THIRD FLOOR. AND IF JEFF SAYS NO, WHAT IS IT? WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS? WELL, I THINK YOU PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT YOUR LEASE AND SEE WHAT THAT SAYS. AS FAR AS HOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN GET INTO THE TERMS OF YOUR LEASE AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE HEARTBURN OVER THE LOCATION, JUST TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. NOT TO DISAGREE WITH THE MAYOR. SORRY. I'M OKAY WITH THIRD FLOOR. [03:15:01] I'M OKAY WITH THE SECOND FLOOR. I DON'T THINK THAT IF SOMEBODY KNOWS YOU'RE IN SUITE 310 AND THEY'RE PULLING UP AND LOOKING AT THE BUILDING, SAYING, WELL, ARE THEY ON THE SECOND FLOOR OR THE THIRD FLOOR? I DON'T THINK THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A CONSIDERATION. AND JEFF MEDICI IS SO PARTICULAR. I'LL BET YOUR LEASE READS THAT HE HAS TO APPROVE IT. AND I GET THE SPACING OUT OF THEM. YOU DON'T WANT SIGN? SIGN, SIGN, SIGN. I DON'T THINK JEFF WOULD EVER ALLOW THAT BUILDING TO BECOME A BILLBOARD. NOR WOULD HE EVER ALLOW THE TREES TO COVER A SIGN BECAUSE HE'S SUPER PARTICULAR. SO I'M OKAY WITH WE CAN MAKE A JUST. I MEAN, I'M ONLY ONE PERSON, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE OUR PREFERENCE IS THAT IT GOES ONE STORY UP, BUT I'M REALLY OKAY IF IT STAYS WHERE IT IS. YEAH, I'LL JUMP IN HERE. I MEAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE SIGN BOARD, I. I REALLY FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WE MAKE IT. THIS ISN'T PARTICLE PHYSICS. YOU NEED YOUR NAME ON THE BUILDING. THE REALITY IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IN THIS COMMUNITY, I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP IT 100. AS THEY SAY, WHEN YOU PULL UP TO AN OFFICE LIKE THIS, YOU EXPECT THE NAME TO BE ON THE BUILDING. AND I KNOW BECAUSE I TOOK MY DAUGHTER TO THE DOCTOR YESTERDAY IN A CITY THAT WASN'T SOUTHLAKE THE WAY GPS OR WAY GOOGLE MAPS OR APPLE MAPS DROPS YOU OFF IT, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE NAME ON THE BUILDING. IF IT'S A SUITE INSIDE OF IT, IT'S NOT HELPING YOU. THE WHOLE THIRD STORY. SECOND STORY THAT THAT'S THAT'S IMMATERIAL. YOUR NAME SHOULD BE ON THE BUILDING. THAT'S MY $0.02. I GUESS I, I COULD GO EITHER WAY. I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE. I GET MY YEARLY MAMMOGRAM AT A DIFFERENT COMPANY, AND SO I USE MY PHONE TO FIND IT. I MEAN, WHEN I FIRST WENT. SO I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AROUND SOME OTHER SIGNS ON OTHER BUILDINGS. I MEAN, TECHNOLOGY WILL TAKE YOU THERE, BUT I MEAN, IT'S A NICE LOOKING SIGN, AND I. I GUESS I'M OKAY WITH IT. I MEAN, DENNIS, HOW OFTEN HAVE WE APPROVED SOMETHING LIKE THIS? HAVE DO WE EVER APPROVE THIS SORT OF VARIANCE? THERE'S THERE'S BEEN INSTANCES IN PARTICULAR WHERE THE UPPER STORY SIGNS ARE BEING CONSIDERED THAT THEY'RE NOT CONGRUENT WITH THE ACTUAL LEASE SPACE, JUST GIVEN THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE NUMBER OF FLOORS. SO I WOULD SAY IN GENERAL, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY UNCOMMON. OKAY. THANK YOU. I MEAN, JUST TO BE FAIR, A CLIENT IS NOT SCALING THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING. THEY'RE ARRIVING IN SEEING THAT YOUR NAME'S ON THE BUILDING AND THEY KNOW YOU'RE INSIDE SOMEWHERE. THAT'S OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YES. AND NOT JUST THAT. WHEN THEY DO COME INTO THE ENTRANCE, THERE'S AN ELECTRONIC SIGN THAT WILL TELL THEM WE'RE ON THE THIRD FLOOR, SO IT GETS THEM TO THE RIGHT PLACE. I MEAN, SOMETIMES THEY ARE GETTING DROPPED OFF BY UBERS AND THEY'RE GETTING DROPPED OFF AT KIMBALL PARK, YOU KNOW, BY THE DRAGON. OR THEY WERE AT THE CAMBRIA AND THEY'RE LOOKING AROUND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO. AND THAT'S WHEN WE GET THE CALL. AND WE DON'T WANT OUR PATIENT'S VISIT TO START LIKE THAT. I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT REAL QUICK THAT TECHNOLOGY WILL GET YOU THERE, BUT THE SIGN WILL CONFIRM THAT IT GOT YOU TO THE RIGHT SPOT. AND I THINK HER QUESTION IS IF WE SAY IT HAS TO GO ON THE THIRD FLOOR AND JEFF SAYS NO, DO THEY HAVE TO COME THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN? THAT'S THE TOUGH COULD PROBABLY DO THAT, BUILD THAT INTO THE MOTION. MAYBE WE HAVE TO PROBABLY GET THE CITY ATTORNEY TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. IF IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THERE'S MUCH INCENTIVE THEN FOR THE LANDLORD TO CHANGE HIS MIND ON HIS POSITION IF HE KNOWS IT'S A CONDITIONAL MOTION. CAN I ADD SOMETHING? COULD IT BE IN THE MOTION THAT IF IT'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THAT THE TREES MUST STAY GROOMED TO MAKE IT VISIBLE? AND IF IT'S ON THE THIRD FLOOR, I'M NOT SURE THE TREES ARE PART OF OUR ITEM TONIGHT. THAT MIGHT BE A SEPARATE ITEM. WE'RE HERE ON THE SIGNS. I'M NOT SURE WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT MANDATING TREE TRIMMING, BUT I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON HOW FAR WE CAN GO WITH THE MOTION. YEAH. SO I THINK YOU COULD MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONAL THAT COUNCIL IS APPROVING IT ON THE THIRD FLOOR. BUT WOULD APPROVE IT ON THE SECOND FLOOR IF THE LANDLORD WON'T ALLOW IT ON THE THIRD OR SOMETHING. SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. OKAY. TO YOUR POINT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT PROVIDES INCENTIVE YOU'RE HOPING FOR, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING YOU COULD INCLUDE IN YOUR MOTION. BUT BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU WANT IT ON THE SECOND FLOOR. CORRECT. I ACTUALLY THINK IT LOOKS BETTER ON THE BUILDING ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE IT ON THE THIRD FLOOR. IF I'M LOOKING AT IT VISUALLY, I THINK IT JUST LOOKS LIKE KELLER WILLIAMS. EXACTLY. AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE A BILLBOARD. I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY BETTER FOR OUR BUSINESS TO BE ON THE THIRD FLOOR, BUT IF I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT ESTHETICALLY. ALL RIGHT. WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT TO DO? I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMSON IS GOING TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THIS. [03:20:04] OKAY. JUST CONFIRMING THAT. SO MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIAMSON HAS RECUSED HIMSELF FROM NINE. BE FOR THE RECORD. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? THIRD FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR. CONDITIONAL. I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUGGESTED SINCE THEY SEEM TO. THIS IS WHAT THEY DESIRE. OKAY. YOU'LL GET TO MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NINE B SB 20 4-001 FOR SIGNED VARIANCES FOR EXECUTIVE MEDICINE LOCATED AT 2106 EAST SOUTH H 114, SUITE 300. SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024, NOTING WE ARE APPROVING THE SIGN VARIANCE ALLOWING AN UPPER STOREY ATTACHED BUILDING SIGN LOCATED ON A WALL THAT IS NOT CONGRUENT WITH THE TENANTS' LEASE SPACE. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. FORGET WHO GOT IT FIRST. WE'LL GIVE IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER LEPP ON THE SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES. AND THAT MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 9.B CARRIES SIX ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS. THANKS FOR STICKING AROUND. GOOD LUCK. NEXT UP, ITEM 9.C HAS BEEN LEFT BLANK INTENTIONALLY. SO WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE D CASE NUMBER SB 24-0015 VARIANCE TO THE SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE MASTER SIGN PLAN FOR FLOWER CHILD LOCATED AT [9.D. $V24-0015, Variance to the Southlake Town Square Master Sign Plan for Flower Child, located at 1239 Main Street. ] 1239 MAIN STREET HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. THIS REQUEST IS LOCATED AT 1239 MAIN STREET. AND IT IS FOR THE FLOWER CHILD. THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SPACE THEY WILL BE OCCUPYING. AND THIS IS AN EXHIBIT SHOWING THE SIGN PROPOSALS THIS EVENING. SIGN A DOES HAVE A VARIANCE ASSOCIATED WITH IT AS FAR AS THE TAGLINE AND THE WIDTH OF THE SIGN AND SIGN C IS A CORNER BLADE SIGN, AND IT REQUIRES NO VARIANCE. AND CAN BE APPROVED WITH THE PERMIT THAT'S BEEN ISSUED. LIKEWISE, SIGN B ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION IS AN ATTACHED SIGN AND REQUIRES NO VARIANCE AND CAN BE APPROVED. THE MURAL SIGN PROPOSAL IS ON THE WEST FACADE AND SOUTH FACADE. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE ATTACHED BUILDING SIGN ON THE NORTH FACADE. THE VARIANCES RELATED TO IT ARE THE WIDTH OF THE ATTACHED SIGN AND THEN ALSO THE DEPTH OF THE NON-LIT CUT LETTERS FOR THE SIGN. THEY ARE REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE BE AT LEAST TWO INCHES THICK, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING A HALF INCH THICK CUT LETTERS TO BE PLACED ON NON LIT CUT LETTERS BE PLACED UNDER THE FLOWER CHILD SIGN. THIS IS THE PROPOSED MURAL SIGNAGE. THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR MURALS WITH APPROVAL, RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR FROM THE SIGN BOARD, AND THEN OF COURSE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AND WHERE IT IS BEING APPLIED. AND MORE OF AN ARTISTIC FORM. WE HAVE, AS A POLICY REQUIRED THOSE TO GO TO ART COUNCIL FOR A RECOMMENDATION PRIOR TO COMING IN FRONT OF THE SIGN BOARD. THIS IS THE PROPOSAL ON THE WEST AND SOUTH. BOTH EXCEED THE PERMITTED AREA THAT IS ALLOWED FOR IN THE MASTER PLAN FOR TOWN SQUARE. DETAIL OF THE NORTH ELEVATION. SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL OF EACH OF THESE SIGNS. THE ART COUNCIL RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE COMMERCIAL WALL MURAL WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT THERE BE NO MURAL ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION. THAT THEY ONLY BE ALLOWED TO LET SIGN REQUIRED BY KITE ON THAT SOUTH ELEVATION. ON THE WEST ELEVATION. RIGHT PANEL. THEY RECOMMENDED REDUCING THE MURAL TO BE LESS BUSY AND NOT AS DETAILED AS IT WAS BEING PROVIDED AND INCLUDED THAT THIS COULD BE DONE BY REDUCING THE SCALE OF BOTH OF THE MURALS ON THE PANEL. [03:25:06] TO BALANCE OUT THAT OVERALL MURAL LOOK ON THE WEST ELEVATION. SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FIVE ZERO. AND SUBJECT TO STAFF REPORT. AND THEY DENIED THE VARIANCE ON THE LETTER THICKNESS FOR SIGN A THEY DID APPROVE THE WIDTH OF THE SIGN A AND SOMEWHAT IN LINE WITH THE ART COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THEY REMOVE THE RIGHT HAND MURAL FROM THE WEST PANEL, AND THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED A MURAL ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION AND ALLOWING THE FAR RIGHT MURAL ON THE WEST. OR, EXCUSE ME, THE FAR LEFT MURAL OR METAL MURAL ON THE WEST. EXCUSE ME. ONCE AGAIN. VARIANCES ON THAT. AND JUST SOME LOOKS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. THESE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER FLOWER CHILD LOCATIONS AND SOME OTHER MURALS APPEAR APPROVED IN TOWN SQUARE. AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE WEST ELEVATION MURAL TO FURTHER CLARIFY THE MOTIONS INVOLVED. DENNIS, SOMEWHERE IN THE LITERATURE WE RECEIVED IN OUR PACKET, IT SAID THAT THIS WASN'T EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING TO BE ON THIS MURAL. IT SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF DESIGNED TO BE DETERMINED, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS THIS DESIGN JUST CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DESIGN. DO YOU KNOW WE'RE TALKING. I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON WHAT THEY MEAN BY THAT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. THE MURAL THAT IF APPROVED AND HOWEVER FORM THAT'S APPROVED WILL NEED TO SUBSTANTIALLY ALIGN WITH WHAT IS PRESENTED TO YOU THIS EVENING. OTHERWISE WE WOULD REQUIRE IT TO COME BACK THROUGH THE. AND JUST TO CONFIRM, THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS THAT THE ARTS COUNCIL RECOMMENDED WAS THE ONE ON THE LEFT, NOT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT. THAT THAT IS WHAT THE SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED. THEY RECOMMENDED REMOVING THIS ONE AND ALLOWING THE MIDDLE ONE. AND BOTH ARTS COUNCIL AND SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED ELIMINATION OF THE MURAL ON THE SOUTH FACADE. OKAY. AND THE ARTS COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THEY MAYBE MAKE SOME OF THE DETAIL LESS BUSY. AND IN DOING THAT THEY MIGHT END UP REDUCING THE OVERALL SIZE. OKAY. THE SIGN BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION WAS JUST TO COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THE RIGHT PANEL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH? ALL RIGHT, LET'S BRING UP THE APPLICANT. COME ON DOWN. AND YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THESE SO YOU KNOW THE DRILL. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THEN GO AHEAD AND TELL US ABOUT THE PACKAGE HERE. BETH BERMAN AT 1239 MAIN STREET. JUST Q&A. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO YOU'RE PAINTING ALL THE BRICK WHITE. I MEAN, IS THIS REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THIS? YEAH. I'M THE QUESTION I THINK IT WAS I BELIEVE YOU HAD THE QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT DETAIL SAID THAT. AND MAYBE ON THE ORIGINAL SIGN PACKAGE, NOT THE MURAL PACKAGE, IT MIGHT HAVE SAID THIS ART IS, YOU KNOW, STILL BEING DESIGNED, BUT THAT IS THAT IS THE ART. THAT IS THE MURAL. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. AND WHAT WERE YOU SO ARE YOU PAINTING ALL THE BRICK LIKE, IS THIS THE ENTIRE CORNER OF THIS IS GOING TO BE WRAPPED IN WHITE PAINTED BRICK. NOW, IS THAT IS THIS I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S BRICK. THERE YOU HAVE BRICK ON THE LEFT AND ON THE FRONT, BUT IT'S YES, IT WILL BE PAINTED WHITE. WHATEVER. WHATEVER IT IS. YEAH. AND THEN YOU'RE TAKING DOWN THE ALL THE WOOD. I MEAN. YEAH. YOU'RE TOTALLY REVAMPING THIS ENTIRE SPACE THEN. YES, YES. OKAY. SO QUICK QUESTION ON SIGN A ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. WHY ARE YOU WANTING TO REDUCE THE THICKNESS OF THOSE LETTERS. [03:30:02] SO WE WANT TO WE WANT TO REDUCE THE THICKNESS OF THE LETTERS. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THOSE LETTERS ARE ABOUT THAT BIG. AND IT'S ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO THE SIGN YOU HAVE ON THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IT'S VERY SIMILAR SIZE. AND IF THOSE LETTERS BECOME TWO INCHES WHEN YOU'RE AT A 45 DEGREE, THEY JUST BECOME A BUBBLE. YOU CAN'T READ THEM ANYMORE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE LETTERS RIGHT ABOVE YOUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS, IF THOSE LETTERS ALL OF A SUDDEN GREW TO TWO INCHES WHEN YOU WERE STANDING AT A 45, YOU WOULDN'T REALLY BE ABLE TO READ IT. YOU COULD READ THEM RIGHT ON FRONT OF IT. BUT AS YOU'RE WALKING, YOU WOULDN'T REALLY BE ABLE TO SEE IT OR READ IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR MR. AYRE IS HERE. DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. AYRE? LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION? YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT IF YOU LIKE, AND WE'LL BRING YOU BACK UP IF THERE'S QUESTIONS. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK. OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT. THAT'S POSSIBLE. IT'S NOT CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE CAN OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ITEM NINE D. SORRY, TAMARA. THAT'S OKAY. YOU KNOW THE DRILL. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND THEN IT'S ALL YOURS. I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'RE GOING TO BE IT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE. YEAH. NO. TAMARA MCMILLIN, 1023 MISSION DRIVE. SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, RESIDENT FOR 34 YEARS BEFORE TOWN SQUARE WAS HERE. BASICALLY, I WAS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FROM THE ARTS COUNCIL. BUT IN LOOKING AT THIS WE VERY STRONGLY FELT THAT WE WERE AS WE'RE ADDING MURALS, THEY SEEM TO BE GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BUSIER AND BUSIER, AND THEY ALL SEEM TO BE ON ONE SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION, EXCUSE ME, OF NIKE, WHICH ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WRAPPING ON IT RIGHT NOW, IT'S STARTING TO PEEL AND NEEDS REPAIR. SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM CUTE TO ALMOST MAYBE TACKY. IF WE KEEP HAVING JUST MURALS UP AND DOWN THAT SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START WANTING TO PUT MURALS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE BACK THERE ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO FIGHT IT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE A MURAL FROM THEIR ART, THEIR BACKYARD. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. SO WE UNDERSTAND IT'S BRANDING. SORRY, I'M LOSING MY VOICE. IT'S BRANDING. BUT YOU KNOW, HOW. HOW LARGE DO WE WANT IT TO BE? AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR CONCERNS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. ALL RIGHT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE ELSE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON 90 COUNCIL. ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE DO A MOTION? I MEAN, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. I MEAN, I'M NOT AT ALL FOR MURALS WITH THIS. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, AT WHAT POINT DO WE LIMIT LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THAT LITTLE CORNER IS GOING TO BE WHITE AND YELLOW AND GREEN, AND THEN THE REST OF THE BLOCK IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A TOTALLY SEPARATE COLOR. I'M ALL FOR BRANDING. THAT'S WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING. BUT THAT'S MORE THE COLORS AROUND THE BRAND, NOT THE ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS. YOU KNOW, THE PAINT AND ALL THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW. I'M NOT OPPOSED, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE IT'S A QUESTION WE NEED TO GET OUR HEADS AROUND. I GUESS I I'M NOT GOING TO REFERENCE THE RIGHT THE SIDE THAT FACES SOUTH. THERE'S JUST NO OTHER TENANT BACK THERE THAT THAT HAS A MURAL. EXCEPT FOR JUST THE LEAVES, I GUESS, ON TOMMY BAHAMA. AND SO. SO I GUESS MY CONCERN WOULD BE IF WE START, I THINK, TO YOUR POINT, ALLOWING MURALS TO YOUR POINT. FRANCES. WHERE DO WE STOP? SO I LIKE I LIKE THE I MEAN, I LOVE THE, THE BRANDING, THE FLOWER CHILD, THE LOGO, ALL OF THAT, THE SIGNAGE. I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. I'M JUST NOT SO SURE ABOUT EXTENDING THE MURAL HERE ON THIS BACK PIECE. AND THEN THE ELEVATION THAT FACES CARROLL. YEAH. WEST. WEST. THANK YOU. IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE A LITTLE LATE. I GUESS SIGNBOARD. DENNIS SAID ELIMINATE THE PIECE ON THE RIGHT. LIKE, COMPLETELY. YES. THAT WAS SIGNBOARDS RECOMMENDATION. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I LIKED WHAT ARTS COUNCIL RECOMMENDED IN TERMS OF JUST REDUCING THE WHOLE THING A LITTLE BIT JUST TO MAKE IT SCALE A LITTLE BETTER. BUT I DON'T LIKE THE BOARD SAID TO GET RID OF. YEAH. I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF TAKING AWAY THE RIGHT PIECE ON THE WEST ELEVATION. [03:35:03] I THINK THAT WILL LOOK WEIRD. SO I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH ELIMINATING THE SOUTH. JUST BECAUSE YOU ALSO JUST KIND OF HAVE A PARKING LOT BACK THERE. THERE'S NOT PEOPLE WALKING. AND SO, IT'S THE BACK OF THEIR BUILDING. BUT I LIKE THE WEST ELEVATION. I THINK IT I THINK IT'S DONE WELL AND I WOULD TAKE THE SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDATION. I MEAN NOT THE SIGN BOARD, THE ARTS COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION AND KEEP BOTH PANELS ON THE WEST. AND I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY TO REDUCE IT. I ALSO THINK THAT'S GOING TO START LOOKING WEIRD. YOU'VE GOT A BIG IT'S A REALLY BIG TALL. I LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW. SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE WEST, BUT ELIMINATE IT ON THE SOUTH, OKAY. YEAH, I LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS AS PRESENTED HERE. AND ELIMINATE. YEAH. ELIMINATE THE SOUTH, THE BACKSIDE. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I'M SORRY. I'M JUST NOT A FAN OF THIS. I DON'T LIKE IT. SO THAT'S MY $0.02 WORTH. I'M DEFINITELY THE SOUTH. AND THIS IS I THINK IT'S JUST TOO MUCH. AND I, I DO WORRY ABOUT THE PRECEDENCE THAT WE'RE SETTING. THIS IS PRETTY LOUD. I TEND TO LEAN MORE TOWARDS THE ARTS. THE ARTS COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION KEEPING GETTING RID OF THE SOUTH, KEEPING THE WEST, BUT MAYBE JUST DOING SOMETHING TO MINIMIZE THAT RIGHT PANEL JUST A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE THE RIGHT PANEL SEEMS TO START TO GET PRETTY OVERWHELMING. MAYBE WE COULD BUILD INTO THE MOTION THAT IT HAS TO BE THE SAME AMOUNT OF COLOR AS THAT MIDDLE PANEL. SO, THEY COULD SHRINK IT A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST SPITBALLING IDEAS HERE AT 11:00 AT NIGHT ON HOW TO GET US THERE. IF YOU WANT TO JUST SHRINK THE AMOUNT OF COLOR ON THE FAR RIGHT, I'D EVEN JUST YOU'VE GOT THREE, I GUESS THERE'RE LIMITS. TAKE THE TOP LIMIT OFF AND JUST MOVE THE BIG PIECE UP JUST TO GIVE IT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT TOTALLY OVERWHELMING BECAUSE. BECAUSE I THINK THAT MY BIG CONCERN IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHITE CORNER BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO STICK OUT SIGNIFICANTLY VERSUS EVERYTHING ELSE IN TOWN SQUARE. THERE'S NO OTHER WHITE BUILDING IN IN TOWN SQUARE THAT ALREADY THEN STICKING SIGNIFICANT MURAL STUFF ON THERE I THINK IS. SO WHOEVER IS MAKING THAT MOTION CAN WORD IT THAT WE'RE ELIMINATING ONE OF THE LEMONS. I DON'T KNOW, Y'ALL. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DECORATE IN ODD NUMBERS. I THINK WE'RE WAY OVER. I KNOW, I THINK WE'RE OVER THINKING THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS AT 11:00 AT NIGHT THE WAY IT IS. YEAH. JUST UP OR DOWN ON. YEAH. WEST IS OKAY. SOUTH IS NO GOOD. NO BUENO. AND VOTE. MAKE THE MOTION. IF IT FAILS, THEN MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT. OKAY, LEMON, I LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. AND RE-MOTION IT. ALL RIGHT, WHO'S MAKING THE MOTION? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TALLEY. YEAH. AMY WANTS SEVEN LEMONS, NOT. OKAY, LET ME LET ME MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE THE ONE. THE MOTION IS GOING TO BE TO APPROVE THE ONE ATTACHED WALL SIGN LABELED SIGN A, EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM SIGN WIDTH. AND THE TAGLINE LETTERS DO NOT MEET THE TWO INCH THICKNESS STANDARD. IS THAT RIGHT? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO THE I THINK THE REQUESTING THEM TO BE 0.5. RIGHT, I WOULD, I WOULD. I LIKED HER EXPLANATION OF KEEPING THEM SMALLER SO PEOPLE CAN READ IT. RIGHT. SO THEY DO NOT MEET THE STANDARD THAT THAT IS APPROVING THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN AND ALLOWING ONE VISUAL ART MURAL AS PRESENTED ONLY ON THE WEST ELEVATION NOT APPROVING A MURAL, BUT APPROVING THE SIGN ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION. ALL RIGHT, LET ME, LET ME. AND THAT'S EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM SIGN AREA ALLOWED. CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE WANT THAT IN THAT MOTION TO APPROVE. YOU CATCH THAT? YES. I'M SURE I'LL GET CORRECTED IF I DIDN'T CATCH IT. DO IT RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NINE D SB 24-0015 VARIANCE OF THE SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE MASTER SIGN PLAN FOR FLOWER CHILD, LOCATED AT 1239 MAIN STREET, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024. NOTING THAT WE ARE APPROVING ONE ATTACHED WALL SIGN LABELED SIGN A, EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM SIGN WIDTH. THE TAGLINE LETTERS DO NOT MEET THE TWO INCH THICKNESS STANDARD. NOTING WE ARE APPROVING THE VISUAL ART WALL MURAL AS PRESENTED ON THE WEST ELEVATION. NOTING, WE ARE NOT APPROVING THE MURAL AS PRESENTED ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION. AND THEN THIS IS THE PIECE I NEED THE SIGN SIZE, DENNIS. AND WE'RE ALLOWING YOU TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SIGN AREA. NOTING ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION, WE ARE ALLOWING THE SIGN TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM RECOMMENDATION SIGN AREA. SIGN AREA. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND TO CLARIFY, I THINK YOU SAID THE SOUTH ELEVATION ALLOWING TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM AREA ON THE WEST ELEVATION. [03:40:07] IT LOOKS. YEAH. YEAH. ON THE ATTACHED SIGN ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION. IT'S CONFORMING. OKAY. IT'S THE AREA FOR THE MURAL ON THE WEST ELEVATION. SO I THINK APPROVING SIGN A AS PRESENTED. APPROVING THE WALL MURAL ON THE WEST ELEVATION AS PRESENTED. I DID SAY THAT. YEP. AND NOT ALLOWING THE SIGN MURAL ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION. I DID SAY THOSE THINGS. YES. OKAY. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT MOTION? YES, I UNDERSTAND IT. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. CAST YOUR VOTES. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 1. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD LUCK. LOOK FORWARD TO Y'ALL OPENING. THAT IS. ITEM 9.D IS APPROVED. NEXT UP IS ITEM 9.E CASE NUMBER MSP 24-0004 AN AMENDMENT TO THE GRANITE PLACE MASTER PLAN FOR THE GRANITE [9.E. MSP24-0004, Amendment to the Granite Place Master Sign Plan for the Granite Place development, located at 550 Reserve Street. ] PLACE DEVELOPMENT, LOCATED AT 550 RESERVE STREET HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. GRANITE PROPERTIES IS REQUESTING TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNS ON THEIR PHASE ONE BUILDING AT 550 RESERVE STREET. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE. AND THIS IS AN EXHIBIT SHOWING IN BLUE WHAT HAS CURRENTLY BEEN APPROVED OR ENTITLED UNDER THEIR MASTER SIGN PLAN. AND THEN THOSE ELEMENTS SHOWN IN RED ARE THE ADDITIONAL SIGNS. A REQUEST TO ADD. THEY HAVE PROVIDED TWO OPTIONS THIS EVENING. THEIR PREFERRED OPTION IS TO ADD UPPER STORY SIGNS IDENTIFIED AS E, F, H, AND J TO BE PERMITTED SIGNS IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY HAVE ENTITLED RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS B, D, AND I BELIEVE A FOR UPPER STOREY SIGNS. C IS A FIRST STORY SIGN AND D IS CURRENTLY A FIRST STORY SIGN. PREFERRED OPTION WOULD RAISE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SIGNS PERMITTED, BOTH FIRST FLOOR AND UPPER STOREY, TO A TOTAL OF TEN. THERE ARE FOUR TOTAL SIGNS APPROVED RIGHT NOW. THIS WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL SIX. THEY HAVE PROVIDED A SECOND OPTION, REDUCING THAT NUMBER, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE ADDITION OF SIGN E AS AN UPPER STORY SIGN AND AN ADDITIONAL SIGN G AS A LOWER STOREY SIGN. E WOULD BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. G WOULD BE ON THE SOUTHEAST LOWER PORTION OF THE BUILDING. AND I CAN RUN THROUGH EXHIBITS OF THAT AND THE CRITERIA THAT THE SIGNS WOULD, WOULD FOLLOW. PREFERRED OPTION IS TO ADD SIGN E AS AN UPPER STOREY SIGN ON THE NORTH ELEVATION SIGN D IS ALREADY PERMITTED AND IT WOULD FOLLOW THESE REGULATIONS. THEIR ALTERNATIVE OPTION ALSO INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF SIGN E. THAT WOULD BE UPPER STORY ON THE NORTH FACADE. AND DETAIL OF THE ADDITIONAL SIGN E ON THE EAST FACADE. THIS IS FACING RESERVE STREET. THEY ARE REQUESTING TO ADD UPPER STOREY ON F AND LOWER STORY SIGN G. THESE TWO AND THIS IS A CRITERIA. EACH OF THOSE WOULD FOLLOW. THE ALTERNATIVE OPTION WOULD INCLUDE JUST SIGN G. THAT WOULD BE THE TWO TOTAL SIGNS THEY HAVE. AND THEN DETAIL OF THE EAST ELEVATION. AND ADDITIONAL DETAIL OF THE EAST ELEVATION ALTERNATIVE. [03:45:04] IT WOULD JUST ADD SIGN G WHICH IS A FIRST STOREY SIGN. ON THE WEST ELEVATION. THEY'RE PROPOSING AN ADDITIONAL SIGN J, INTO WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE ENTITLED, WHICH IS SIGN B, AND J WOULD FOLLOW THIS CRITERIA. AND THAT'S A DETAIL OF THAT OPTION. ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION, THEY ARE PROPOSING TWO SIGNS NOT CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED. AND FOR THEIR ALTERNATIVE, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY SIGNS ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION. SIGN H IS UPPER STOREY SIGN I AS A FIRST FLOOR OPTION AND A DETAIL OF THAT. THIS IS JUST SOME EXHIBITS OF WHAT'S EXISTING CURRENTLY, AND THE SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. FOLLOWING THE PROPOSED SIGNS WITH APPROVAL OF JUST ONE SIGN ON THE NORTH AND APPROVING SIGN G ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE EAST BUILDING. THE OTHER SIGNS WERE DENIED. AND JUST SOME OTHER PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING AND WHAT IS IN THE AREA NOW. WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE FURTHER CLARIFICATION. IF SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, SIGNBOARD SAID YES TO SIGNS E AND G AND THAT'S IT. AND THAT WAS THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT'S KIND OF ALTERNATIVE PLAN IS, IS TO ADOPT WHAT SIGNBOARD SAID. YES I'M GOOD WITH THAT. BUT ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH? ALL RIGHT. THE APPLICANT HERE. COME ON DOWN. IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THEN I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND. WILL PROBABLY WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT E AND G BUT GO AHEAD. YES. MY NAME IS ANITA DELGADO. ADDRESS IS 401 NORTH HOUSTON STREET IN DALLAS. ALL RIGHT, I KNOW Y'ALL WANTED SIX SIGNS. SIGNBOARD SAID YES TO E AND G, AND THAT'S KIND OF YOUR FALLBACK PLAN. ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH THAT? YES. ALL RIGHT, THAT SEEMS EASY ENOUGH. UNLESS ANYONE WANTS TO FILIBUSTER IT AND KEEP US GOING. THAT WAS EASY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SORRY THAT YOU HAD TO BE THE LAST ITEM TONIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. IT DOES NOT CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO CALL UPON. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO A MOTION. YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. ITEM NINE E MSP 240004 AMENDMENT TO THE GRANITE PLAY PLACE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR THE GRANITE PLACE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 550 RESERVE STREET, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024 AND NOTING THAT WE ARE APPROVING THE ALTERNATE PLAN AS PRESENTED FOR A TOTAL OF SIX SIGNS, AND THAT INCLUDES AN ADDITION OF SIGN E AND G, WHICH ARE ONE ADDITIONAL UPPER STORY SIGN LOCATED ON THE NORTH ELEVATION AND ONE ADDITIONAL FIRST FLOOR SIGN LOCATED ON THE EAST ELEVATION. WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM 9.E DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES. AND THAT MOTION TO APPROVE 9.E CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THAT'S IT. MEETING ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.