PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AND CALL TO ORDER THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE SIGN BOARD MEETING FOR NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024. [00:00:08] FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS. NO COMMENTS MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU. THANK YOU DENNIS. SAME THING. NO CHAIRMAN COMMENTS OTHER THAN WE'LL SEE YOU ALL IN JANUARY. AND NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING. [5. Consider: Approving the minutes from the November 7, 2024, Sign Board Meeting. ] MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING. ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE. HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES FOUR ZERO. [6. Consider: SV24-0013, Variance to the Southlake Town Square Master Sign Plan for Markham Fine Jewelers, located at 101 Grand Avenue.] ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS ITEM NUMBER SIX. SB24-0013. YES. THIS IS A VARIANCES FOR MARKHAM FINE JEWELERS. THIS IS FOR SIX PUSH THROUGH ILLUMINATED AWNING SIGNS. AND THIS IS FOR THEIR LOCATION IN SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE, IT'S 101 GRAND AVENUE. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW. MARKHAM FINE JEWELERS IS RIGHT ABOUT IN HERE. THEY ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR TWO AWNING SIGNS WITH ILLUMINATION ON THE WEST SIDE AND TWO AWNINGS ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION, OR FOUR AWNINGS ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION WITH ILLUMINATION. AGAIN, THE WEST ELEVATION HAS TWO AWNINGS WITH THESE SIGNS ON THEM, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR THOSE TO BE ILLUMINATED. AND THE SOUTH ELEVATION HAS FOUR AWNINGS, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING FOR THOSE TO BE ILLUMINATED. OTHERWISE, THE AWNINGS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER SIGN PLAN FOR SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE. SO IT'S JUST SIMPLY FOR THE ILLUMINATION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE AWNINGS THAT THEY HAVE UP. THEY THEY ALREADY HAVE THE SIGNS UP. THEY JUST ARE REQUESTING TO ADD THE ILLUMINATION. SAME WITH THE WEST ELEVATION. AND THIS IS JUST A VIEW OF THE BUILDING, THE WEST AND SOUTH ELEVATION. DETAILED VIEW OF THE AWNING SIGNS. AND WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF OTHER AWNING SIGNS IN SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE. AS YOU MAY RECALL, THEY HAD A MORE ROBUST REQUEST AT THE LAST MEETING AND THAT WAS TABLED. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ILLUMINATED SIGNS LIKE THAT CURRENTLY RIGHT IN TOWN SQUARE. I'M SORRY. WHAT? WE DON'T HAVE ANY ILLUMINATED SIGNS LIKE THAT CURRENTLY. CORRECT. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. SO IF IT WAS APPROVED, WOULD THERE BE A LIMIT ON HOW THE HOURS THAT THEY COULD BE ELIMINATED? OR IS IT, IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN PLACE ALREADY? NOT TYPICALLY. I MEAN, IT WOULD JUST BE LIKE ANY OTHER SIGN THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN SQUARE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU JENNIFER. IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX? YES. YES, SIR. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK. IF YOU IF YOU WOULD DO US A FAVOR AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SURE. IT'S RAJA MUZAFFAR, 8355 GAYLORD PARKWAY, FRISCO, TEXAS, 75034. SO PRETTY DIFFERENT APPLICATION TONIGHT. LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE KIND OF NARROWED THINGS DOWN. ONE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE. SO I'VE NOTICED IN DRIVING BY ON THE I GUESS WHAT WOULD IT BE, THE SOUTH SIDE FACING SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD. YOU GOT A LOT GOING ON THERE AT NIGHT. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY WINDOW IS LIT UP. YEAH, THE WINDOWS ARE BACKLIT. THE ONLY THING AND I DO SEE THE LIGHTING IS GOING INTO THE, THE AWNING. IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK PROPER BECAUSE THERE IS NO ILLUMINATION BEHIND THE LOGOS, AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THE AWNING ITSELF TO BE LIT, IT'S JUST THE BRAND LOGOS TO BE LIT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT, I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT OUR FRISCO LOCATION LOOKS LIKE AT NIGHT WITH ALL THE BRAND LOGOS LIT. IT LOOKS PRETTY NICE AT NIGHT. YEAH, IF YOU HAVE THAT WITH YOU, THAT'D BE. MAY I APPROACH YOU THERE? SURE. DENNIS, WE'RE GOOD WITH MAYBE JUST KIND OF HAVING HIM WALK BY AND SHOW THAT TO US. CERTAINLY. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. YEAH. GO, GO, GO RIGHT AHEAD. YES. OKAY. [00:05:41] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. I GUESS MY ONLY I MEAN, I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THERE'S STILL A LOT GOING ON. AND THOSE WINDOWS ARE ALL LIT UP AND HAVE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS, I GUESS, HIGHLIGHTED. AND I'M WONDERING KIND OF TO THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT, ARE WE CREATING ANY KIND OF A PROBLEM GOING FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO DO THIS ON OTHER AWNINGS BECAUSE THERE'S NONE OTHER IN TOWN SQUARE AT THIS POINT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS. YEAH. I THINK I THINK YOU MADE A REALLY GOOD POINT ABOUT THE THE WINDOWS ALREADY LIT UP. IT DOES LOOK COOL, LIKE THE WHAT HE SHARED WITH US LOOKS COOL. BUT I JUST THINK ABOUT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL OF TOWN SQUARE, AND YOU'RE DRIVING BY AT NIGHT AND THIS THING IS REALLY LIT UP AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE YOU LOOK AT CORNER BAKERY ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO LOOK VERY GREAT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE WHOLE TOWN SQUARE. I THINK, EXCUSE ME, I THINK IT'S TOO MUCH LIT UP. AND IT'S ALSO WITH THE BRANDS TOO, SO. YOU AGREE. AND YOU ALL UNDERSTAND, YOUR STORE LOOKS PHENOMENAL. I THINK THE LIGHTING ON THE WINDOWS LOOK GREAT. I THINK THE THE ABOVE THE DOORS LOOKS GREAT, THE CLOCK, EVERYTHING LOOKS FANTASTIC. I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THIS IS, IT MIGHT BE OVERDOING IT. I MEAN, IT'S WHEN YOU DRIVE BY TOWN SQUARE, IT POPS OUT UNLIKE ANYTHING ELSE IN TOWN SQUARE, SO I DON'T KNOW CITY COUNCIL MAY VIEW IT DIFFERENTLY. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. I GUESS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS AND CITY COUNCIL CAN STILL WEIGH IN, RIGHT, DENNIS? CORRECT. YES. WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO. AND YOU'RE OPEN, RIGHT? I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S GOING SMOOTHLY SO FAR. WELL, WE REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING YOU HERE, EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY AGREE ON THIS, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER SIX I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY ITEM NUMBER SIX ON OUR AGENDA SB 24-0013, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 15TH, 2024. HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. AND TO BE CLEAR, A YES VOTE IS IN FAVOR OF THE NO MOTION. ALL RIGHT. THAT ITEM CARRIES FOUR ZERO, IN OTHER WORDS, A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. AGAIN, WE THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. YOUR STORE LOOKS FANTASTIC. CITY COUNCIL MAY VIEW THIS DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. AND WITH THAT, WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.