>> GOOD EVENING. APOLOGIES FOR THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES,
[1. Call to Order: Video Introduction of SPIN Program by Southlake Mayor Shawn McCaskill ]
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BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO FIGURED OUT.I AM YOUR HOST FOR THE SPIN MEETING TONIGHT.
THE PURPOSE OF SPIN IS TO GAIN FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS ON DEVELOPMENT RELATED PROJECTS AND OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY.
SPIN IS AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING AND NO VOTES ARE TAKEN.
SPIN IS STREAMED LIVE THROUGH SOUTH LAKE TV ON THE CITY'S MAIN WEBSITE, CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.COM.
NEXT, WE WILL SHOW A BRIEF VIDEO INTRODUCTION OF THE SPIN PROGRAM BY SOUTH LAKE MAYOR SHAWN MCCASKILL.
>> GOOD EVENING. THIS IS SHAWN MCCASKILL, THE MAYOR OF SOUTH LAKE.
I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO TONIGHT'S SPIN MEETING.
FIRST OF ALL, SPIN STANDS FOR SOUTH LAKE PROGRAM FOR THE INVOLVEMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S WHERE YOU COME IN.
THIS IS THE FIRST STAGE IN OUR VERY THOROUGH AND EXHAUSTIVE REVIEW PROCESS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN SOUTH LAKE, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING PART OF THAT PROCESS.
TONIGHT, YOU'LL HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT WHO'S LOOKING TO DO POSSIBLY A NEW DEVELOPMENT HERE IN SOUTH LAKE.
YOU WILL GET A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY VOTES TONIGHT.
THAT WILL COME LATER WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR COMMENTS AND GETTING A REPORT ON WHAT IS DISCUSSED TONIGHT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS REVIEW PROCESS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL LEVELS.
YOUR INPUT, BOTH FOR AND AGAINST A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ESSENTIAL AS WE LOOK AT WHAT OUR RESIDENTS THINK WHEN WE'RE MAKING OUR DECISIONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT AND BEING PART OF OUR PROCESS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
>> WE DEVELOPED AN ONLINE SPIN FORM FOR RESIDENTS TO SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING IF THEY ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND.
I WILL READ THROUGH THESE SUBMISSIONS AFTER THE RESIDENTS AND ATTENDANTS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK ON EACH TOPIC.
AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTATIONS, THOSE IN ATTENDANCE WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CAN USE THE MICROPHONE IN THE AISLE FOR THE Q&A PORTION OF THE MEETING.
[2. SPIN2025-07 – An applicant is proposing a 3-lot residential subdivision at 2530 Johnson Rd. within SPIN Neighborhood #11. ]
WITH THAT, LET US GET TO OUR FIRST APPLICANT PRESENTATION.CURTIS YOUNG IS HERE TO PRESENT OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH IS SPIN 2025-07.
AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A THREE LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION AT 2530 JOHNSON ROAD WITHIN SPI NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 11.
>> GOOD EVENING, ALL. MY NAME IS C KURDISH WITH THE SAGE GROUP HERE IN SOUTH LAKE, AND WITH ME IS MY NAME IS TURNER PHILLIPS OF WILLOWTREE CUSTOM HOMES, AND WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THIS PROPERTY, AND WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HERE FOR THIS, PRESENT WHAT OUR PLANS ARE AND GET YOUR QUESTIONS AND INPUT AND BEGIN THE PROCESS.
IT'S ABOUT TWO ACRES JUST TO THE WEST OF THE REMUDA ROAD THAT'S IN JOHNSON PLACE.
TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY IS A CREEK, AND THE MAJORITY OF WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
HERE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY, AND HERE'S THE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE JOHNSON PLACE DEVELOPMENT IS PRIMARILY ZONED RPUD.
I HAPPENED TO BE THE DESIGNER OF JOHNSON PLACE 15 OR SO YEARS AGO, AND SO I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS ON THAT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE INTERESTED IN THIS PROPERTY AT THE TIME, AND BUT THE OWNERS OF THAT TIME WERE NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING, BUT IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY SUGGESTED THAT WE EXTEND THE CUL-DE-SAC ALL THE WAY TO THE BOUNDARY THERE SO THAT IF IT EVER NEEDED TO BE EXTENDED OR THAT PROPERTY NEEDED TO BE ADDED TO THE DEVELOP PLOTS, THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY THROUGH THERE, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THIS LOCATION HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE ALSO UP HERE IN THE FAR NORTHWEST CORNER, THE PROPERTY DEAD ENDS INTO HERE, AND IF THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY EVER WANT TO SUBDIVIDE INTO LOTS, THEN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF THAT ROAD GOING THROUGH THERE, AND SIGNS WERE PUT ON THE ENDS OF BOTH OF THESE ROADS TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE REALIZED THAT THE EXTENSIONS WERE POSSIBLE.
WHAT ARE WE PLANNING ON DOING HERE? HERE'S JOHNSON PLACE, SOME BASIC STATISTICS ON JOHNSON PLACE.
THERE ARE 54 LOTS IN JOHNSON PLACE, RANGING FROM 17,425 SQUARE FEET TO THE AVERAGE LOT IN THERE IS JUST OVER 20,000 SQUARE FEET.
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FOR THIS TWO ACRES OR SO, WE ARE PLANNING ON SUBDIVIDING THIS INTO THREE LOTS.ALL OVER 25,000 SQUARE FEET, AVERAGE A LITTLE BIT OVER 27,000 SQUARE FEET, SO THEY'RE 20, 30% LARGER THAN THE JOHNSON PLACE LOTS, AND LOT 1 SHOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM.
IT WOULD FRONT ON JOHNSON ROAD, AND RECEIVE ITS ACCESS FROM JOHNSON ROAD JUST LIKE THE EXISTING HOUSE DOES TODAY THAT'S ON THIS PROPERTY.
THEN LOTS 2 AND 3 WOULD RECEIVE THEIR ACCESS FROM THE END OF MIDDA COURT, WHICH IS HERE.
STATISTICS FOR THESE THREE LOTS, THREE LOTS ON AFTER WE THE 1.97 ACRES, CURRENTLY, WE WOULD BE GIVING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DEDICATION DOWN HERE TO THE JOHNSON ROAD RIGHT AWAY.
ON THE REMAINING 1.86 ACRES, THERE WOULD BE THREE LOTS LIKE THIS.
AS I SAID, LOT 1 WOULD RECEIVE ITS ACCESS JUST AS IT CURRENTLY DOES OFF JOHNSON ROAD, AND LOTS 2 AND 3 WOULD GET THEIR ACCESS OFF THE EXISTING COL SAC THAT TOUCHES THIS PROPERTY HERE IN THESE LOCATIONS HERE.
THESE HOMES WOULD BE VERY NICE CUSTOM MADE HOMES.
THEY BUILT A VERY NICE HOME, AND I'M SURE IN THE 15 YEARS, THE VALUES OF THESE HOMES WILL BE VERY HIGH IN COMPARISON TO THE JOHNSON PLACE HOMES, WHICH, OF COURSE, ARE ALL NICE HOMES.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANY OF YOU HAVE.
COME UP TO THE MIC RIGHT HERE.
>> I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU, WHICH I THINK IS A PROPOSED SINCE YOU DID THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE JOHNSON PLACE SUBDIVISION THAT WAS DONE WAS 7.3 ACRES WERE CEDED TO THE CITY OF SOUTH LAKE, AND THE HOA WAS STUCK, AND I USE THAT TERM INTENTIONALLY WITH THE COST OF MAINTENANCE FOR ALL OF THAT.
WHAT ARE THE INTENTIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA? THERE ARE A PORTION OF IT, SAY, THE LIGHT GREEN ON THE BACK, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE FLOODPLAIN AND SO FORTH, WHICH WILL REQUIRE MAINTENANCE BY THE HOA IF THEY WERE GRANTED ACCESS TO THE HOA.
>> NO, THERE IS 10% OF THE WESTERN EDGE OF THESE THREE LOTS THAT WILL BE PUT INTO A LANDSCAPE EASEMENT, BUT IT WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EACH OF ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO TAKE CARE OF.
>> WILL THERE BE ANY OBLIGATION OF THIS TO THE CITY OF SOUTH LAKE FOR MAINTENANCE OR OTHER PURPOSES?
>> IT HAS BEEN, BY THE WAY, IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT THESE THREE LOTS JOIN THE HOA AND CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR ANNUAL DUES OR WHATEVER, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WILLOWTREE WILL.
>> THAT CERTAINLY IS AN HOA DISCUSSION AND A VOTE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE HOA, OBVIOUSLY.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON THE SOUTH LAKE OBLIGATIONS AND SOME OF THOSE WHICH WE DISCOVERED EARLY ON, WHICH THE HOA WAS NOT AWARE OF WITH YOUR FORMER DEVELOPER AND SO FORTH THAT TRANSPIRED AND YOU KNOW THAT HISTORY IN?
>> HI. I'M SUSAN FRENCH AND I DO LIVE ON BERMUDA COURT, AND I'M PRIMARILY INTERESTED IN WHETHER THE SURVEY IS SHOWING A BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC AND THAT LOT.
>> NO. THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC WAS PURPOSELY PUT RIGHT UP AGAINST, THERE'S A 50 FOOT COMMON BOUNDARY AT THE END OF THAT ROAD.
>> WE HAVE BEEN MAINTAINING A STRIP OF LAND PRIOR TO THE FENCE THAT'S THERE.
THERE'S A WROUGHT IRON FENCE THERE, AND WE'VE BEEN MAINTAINING THAT SINCE I'VE LIVED THERE BECAUSE WE BUILT THERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE END OF THE STREET AND THAT LOT.
>> THERE'S A PORTION OF LAND THEN THE LOT?
>> WELL, YOU REALIZE THAT THE RIGHT AWAY OF A ROAD GOES BEYOND THE END OF THE PAVING.
AROUND THAT PAVING, THERE'S ABOUT TYPICALLY AN CUL-DE-SAC.
THERE'S ABOUT A TEN FOOT STRIP THAT'S PART OF THE RIGHT AWAY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE CITY.
>> THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE THE PLATE FOR JOHNSON PLACE?
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BUT I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT.>> BECAUSE THE ONE THAT I'VE LOOKED AT THAT WAS FILED WITH THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY ON IT.
>> WELL, WE'D BE HAPPY TO GET WITH YOU AND SHOW YOU THAT PLAT.
>> WELL, IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY ON IT, THIS IS THE POINT THAT I'M GETTING AT.
I'M WONDERING HOW YOU HAVE ACCESS IF YOU HAVE TO CROSS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
>> WE WOULDN'T. IF WE HAVE TO CROSS PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT WE DO IS WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
THE THE RIGHT AWAY COMES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BOUNDARY OF THIS PROPERTY?
>> WELL, IT CAN'T IF WE'VE BEEN MAINTAINING SOMETHING BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
>> NO, WELL, YOU'VE BEEN MAINTAINING AS PART OF THE RIGHT AWAY.
>> IF IT SAYS SO ON THE PLAT, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IT DOES.
>> WELL, WE CAN WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND SATISFY YOU.
>> THE OTHER THING IS, AND LOOKING AT YOUR SCHEMATIC HERE, IS THERE A ROAD BETWEEN TWO LOTS 2 AND 3?
THERE'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT BETWEEN THERE, AND SO YES, THERE WILL BE A DRIVE THAT WILL GO TO LOT 3 AND A DRIVE THAT WILL GO TO LOT 2.
>> THEORETICALLY THAT DRIVE COULD GO STRAIGHT THROUGH TO THE NEXT PROPERTY.
>> THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
WE END OUR ACCESS EASEMENT PRIOR TO GETTING TO THE NEXT NEXT PROPERTY? BUT IT COULD.
>> NO. NOT WITHOUT A CHANGE IN ZONING AND CHANGE IN EVERYTHING.
ON THE ONE OF THE KEYS TO THIS IS IT STOPS THAT ROAD FROM EXTENDING FURTHER.
>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, THEY'RE BUILDING PRETTY BIG HOUSES ON JOHNSON ROAD CURRENTLY ON SINGLE LOTS.
WHY ISN'T THAT WHAT'S BEING CONTEMPLATED FOR THIS LOT?
>> BECAUSE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WOULD LIKE TO SUBDIVIDE IT INTO THREE LOTS, AND THEY'VE WORKING WITH WILLOWTREE TO BUILD THREE HOMES ON IT.
>> WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS NOT IN OUR FAVOR BECAUSE WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WE'LL BE SEEING CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES DAILY THROUGH OUR CUL-DE-SAC, WHICH AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A VERY QUIET STREET, AND WHERE WOULD THE CREWS BE PARKING?
>> WELL, ON THE PROPERTY, WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF, WE COULD GET ALL THE AGREE THAT ALL THE ACCESS COMES OFF OF JOHNSON ROAD.
THE HOMES OF LOTS 2 AND THREE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE ACCESSED ON REMUDA A COURT THERE, BUT WE COULD WE COULD HAVE ALL THE PEOPLE PARK ON SITE, I'M SURE.
>> HAS THE CITY APPROVED ANY OF THIS?
>> NO. THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO THE CITY.
WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS THE FIRST STEP IN REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING, ANSWER QUESTIONS.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO GET WITH YOU OR YOUR HOA TO TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER IN THE FUTURE.
>> HOW WOULD I FOLLOW UP ON THE ISSUES THAT I'VE PRESENTED? IN TERMS OF THE RIGHT OF WAY?
>> WELL, YOU CAN YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR INFORMATION WITH ONE OF US AND WE'LL REACH OUT TO YOU.
>> WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFORMATION TO THE HOA BOARD.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS PRETTY RECENTLY, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A SURVEYOR BACK IN APRIL SURVEYING THE LOT.
DID YOU PRESENT THE SURVEY TO ANYBODY ON THE HOA AT THAT TIME?
>> WE HAVE NOT PRESENTED THE SURVEY.
>> THAT WAS JUST GATHERING THE BASE INFORMATION SO WE KNEW WHAT PROPERTY WE HAD AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
>> I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU.
>> I'M GOING TO BUTT UP TO PROPERTY OR LOT NUMBER 2 IS WHERE I LIVE.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, YOU SAID SO THE ROAD THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC SAYS FUTURE THROUGH STREET.
IS THAT LITERALLY GOING TO BE TWO DRIVEWAYS, OR ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE CONTINUE THE ROAD AND THEN DRIVEWAYS? WHAT'S THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE AESTHETICALLY?
>> IT'LL PROBABLY LOOK LIKE ONE LARGER THAN NORMAL DRIVEWAY, NOT THE ROAD ITSELF.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS AN ACCESS EASEMENT.
IT'LL BE A DRIVEWAY THAT WILL BE SHARED BY BOTH LOTS 2 AND 3, AND THEN PEAL OFF INTO THEIR RESPECTIVE LOTS.
WHAT IT'LL PROBABLY LOOK LIKE TO YOU IS JUST A SINGLE DRIVEWAY.
>> I WOULD ASSUME IT'D BE YOUR UPMOST PRIORITY TO MAINTAIN THOSE BIG TREES THERE.
THE BIG TREES AND THE VEGETATION.
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>> YES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IN ALL THESE SUBMISSIONS IS SUBMIT A TREE CONSERVATION PLAN.
WHEN THE SURVEYOR WAS THERE, WE HAD THEM SURVEY ALL THE TREES AS WELL.
WE KNOW ALL THE INFORMATION AS TO WHERE THEY ARE.
AND WE'RE PLANNING ON SAVING THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TREES ON THIS PROPERTY.
>> MY LAST QUESTION, I GUESS IS THE POSITIONS OF MAYBE LOT 2 AND 3.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE FACING I DON'T KNOW THE DIRECTIONS.
I'M SORRY, THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE FACING EACH OTHER? DO WE KNOW OR YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YET? HOW IS THAT GOING TO LOOK?
>> WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY'LL HAVE SOME PRESENCE TOWARD THE CUL-DE-SACS.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MAYBE ANGLE.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO WANT THEIR BACK YARDS ON THE WESTERN SIDE BECAUSE THAT'S THE OPEN SPACE AND THE FOOT PLANE AND ALL THAT. ANYONE ELSE?
I'M A FULL TIME PRACTICING ANESTHESIOLIST.
I LIVE ON BERMUDA COURT FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW.
I CAN TELL YOU THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THE SIX LOTS OF BERMUDA COURT ARE COMPLETELY 100% AGAINST ACCESSING THE CUL-DE-SAC FOR MANY REASONS.
WITH THE THREE LOTS THAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED, WHO OWNS THAT CURRENTLY? SAGE, WILLOWTREE?
>> NO. IT'S A PRIVATE LAND OWNER WHO'S WORKING WITH US TOO.
>> HAVE ANY OF THESE THREE LOTS ALREADY BEEN SOLD, PRESOLD, HAVE ANY TYPE OF WORKING RELATIONSHIP CONTINGENT ON THIS DEAL GOING?
WILLOWTREE, HAVE YOU CONTRACTED WITH THE OWNER TO DEVELOP THIS AND PURCHASE THESE LOTS, CORRECT?
>> IF YOU BROKE THROUGH THE CUL-DE-SAC DOWN THERE, THE TWO HOMES THAT ARE ON THE FURTHEST WEST SIDE OF THAT, THE STREET HAS A CURVATURE IN FRONT OF THEM THERE.
IF YOU ACCESS THERE, THE STREET GOING THROUGH AT THE SAME WIDTH AS THE MIDDLE PART OF THE STREET, IS THAT NOT GOING TO LOOK QUITE FUNNY TO HAVE DRIVING ALONG, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU HAVE THIS LITTLE BUBBLE IN THE STREET, AND THEN YOU CONTINUE ON?
>> WHAT OUR PROPOSAL IS FOR IT TO LOOK LIKE A DRIVEWAY, JUST LIKE YOUR DRIVEWAY OR YOUR NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY, IT'S JUST WILL BE AT THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC AND ACCESS TO HOMES, SO IT WON'T LOOK LIKE A STREET.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IT WON'T LOOK LIKE A STREET, A CUL-DE-SAC, AND THEN ANOTHER STREET.
ALTHOUGH THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS SET UP TO DO ORIGINALLY, BECAUSE THE THOUGHT WAS ORIGINALLY, WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED, WAS THAT THIS ROAD MIGHT WANT TO GO ON, AND THE FOOT PLAIN TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY MIGHT WANT TO BE RECLAIMED THROUGH PHIL.
THERE MIGHT, IN THAT CASE, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX HOMES ON THE END OF THIS CUL-DE-SAC.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
WE'RE PROPOSING JUST TO DEVELOP THIS ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY, NOT EXTEND THE ROAD.
IF THIS HAPPENS, IT COULD NEVER GO ON TO THAT PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF US.
>> THERE ARE CURRENTLY SEVERAL THINGS THAT THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH TO ALLOW THIS? ONE IS THERE'S A FIRE HYDRANT, ONE IS A VERY LARGE RAISED CONCRETE SEWER DRAIN, AND THERE'S AN UNDERGROUND GAS LINE ALSO.
THERE'S THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE BETWEEN THERE THAT I'M SURE ON IS OWNED BY THE HOA ALSO.
WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO CUT THIS THROUGH TO BUILD THE HOMES AND TO HAVE EVERYTHING CLEANED UP AGAIN. HOW MANY YEARS?
>> IT WOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG. IF THERE'S A FIRE HYDRANT.
>> FOR BUILDING NICE HOMES, AS YOU'RE DESCRIBING, WE HAVE A VERY NICE HOME, AND IT TOOK ABOUT A YEAR ALMOST.
I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LIMITED ACCESS TO EACH OF THESE THREE PROPERTIES HERE.
IT'S NOT LIKE A NEW DIVISION WHEN, YOU COULD PARK ANYWHERE AND TRUCKS COULD MOVE AROUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
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>> WELL, IF THERE'S A FIRE HYDRANT IN THE WAY, THAT WILL BE MOVED.
OUR CIVIL ENGINEER HAS LOOKED AT THOSE PLANS AND HAS SUBMITTED PLANS FOR THE RELOCATION OR ANYTHING OF ANY UTILITIES THAT ARE NECESSARY OR IN THE WAY AND CERTAINLY THE WATER LINE WILL BE EXTENDED TO SERVICE THE THOSE TWO HOMES.
THE WATER LINE ALONG JOHNSON PLACE WILL SERVICE THAT HOME THAT IT'S ALREADY SERVICING THERE AND ALL OF THAT WILL BE THE MOVING OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
ANY OF THIS WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER NOT THE CITY.
CITY WILL APPROVE THE PLANS, OF COURSE.
>> FIFTY FOUR LOTS IN JOHNSON PLACE, SIX ARE ON BERMUDA COURT, WHICH ARE THE MOST HEAVILY IMPACTED BY THIS PERMANENTLY.
>> WELL, YOU GET A COUPLE OF NICE NEIGHBORS.
>> I'M LOOKING FOR A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
NOTHING? [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE GETTING NOTHING THEN? THANK YOU. YOU ANSWERED.
>> I'M SORRY. I DID HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION THAT I DIDN'T ASK.
I DID ASK WHY YOU WEREN'T BUILDING ONE HOME ON THAT LOT, WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY BE MY PREFERENCE.
BUT THE OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, AREN'T YOU ACCESSING ALL THREE LOTS FROM JOHNSON ROAD?
>> BECAUSE IT'S MORE EFFICIENT TO DO IT THIS WAY, WE BUILD WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD A STREET, AND THE LOTS ARE LARGER AND NICER, AND THIS IS JUST A MUCH BETTER SOLUTION.
>> THAT'S MAYBE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T FROM MINE.
WAS THAT OPTION EVER CONSIDERED OR IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU CAN'T CONSIDER THAT OPTION?
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S REALLY ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT IN A ROAD AND STILL HAVE A USABLE SITE.
>> COULDN'T YOU BUILD TWO HOUSES INSTEAD OF THREE?
>> COULDN'T YOU BUILD ONE HOUSE INSTEAD OF THREE?
>> WE COULD, YES. WE PREFER NOT TO. THANK YOU.
>> I DON'T LIVE ANYWHERE NEARBY, BUT TO SEGUE ON A FEW THINGS THEY'VE SAID AND LIVING NEXT DOOR TO A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SEGUE WHAT THEY SAID IS THAT IF YOU DO PRESENT THIS TO COUNSEL AND IT DOES START MOVING FORWARD, A, WILL YOU WRITE IT SO THAT THEY LIMIT THAT NO TRAFFIC IS ON THE COURT TO WHAT YOU ALL WILL DO WITH THE HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION.
I KNOW THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS NEXT TO OUR HOME, IT WAS LIMITED.
BUT NOBODY ENFORCED IT. IT WAS MORNING NOON AND NIGHT.
IT WAS IT WAS ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE AND THEN ALSO, I DON'T SEE ON YOUR PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A LITTLE TOO EARLY ON.
TREE PRESERVATION PLAN FOR THE LOTS.
>> WE'VE DEVELOPED THAT, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
AS FAR AS THE HOURS THE CITY HAS ORDINANCE REGULATING THE HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION, WE WOULD CERTAINLY FOLLOW THAT AND HAVEN'T HAD THAT ISSUE IN OTHER PLACES.
>> WHAT ABOUT IF THE HOMEOWNERS AROUND THERE, I WOULDN'T WANT MY ANESTHESIOLOGISTS FALLING ASLEEP DURING MY SURGERY.
THAT WAS A PROBLEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I HAD A BUNCH OF DOCTORS LIVING AROUND US.
I'M LIKE, MY GOD, I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE IN SURGERY WITH THE WAY THESE GUYS ARE DOING CONSTRUCTION.
MAYBE LIMITED I KNOW THE CITY HAS THEIR RULES, BUT MAYBE YOU ALL TIGHTEN THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE AND ENSURING THAT THEY, A, WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH CLEANLINESS.
EVEN THOUGH THE CITY SAYS THE CONTRACTORS MUST CLEAN UP AND DO THIS THAT IT'S A LIE.
NOBODY ENFORCES IT. THE GC DIDN'T DO A THING.
I ACTUALLY CALLED OSHA A FEW TIMES, AND THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT GOT BUSTED BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAW BECAUSE OF SAFETY ISSUES I SAW AND THERE'S A LOT OF LACKADAISICAL THING.
YOU'RE LIKE, THE CITY. WHEN YOU'VE LIVED NEXT TO A CITY PROJECT, IT'S JUST WORDS, AND THERE'S NOBODY TO TRULY ENFORCE IT.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK IS MAYBE GET WITH THE HOA BOARD BEFOREHAND AND SAY, YEAH, THE CITY SAYS SEVEN TO NINE.
DO THEY REALLY WANT TO HEAR THAT SEVEN TO NINE? WOULD YOU WANT YOURSELF, YOUR WIFE, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN TO GO INTO SURGERY?
>> WE'D BE HAPPY TO GET WITH HOA.
>> ALSO, IF YOU ALL DO END UP USING BERMUDA COURT, COME UP WITH PROVISIONS FOR THE HOA, TO PAY FOR ANY DAMAGES DONE TO THEIR CURBS, THEIR ROADS BECAUSE I'M CURRENTLY DEALING WITH THAT.
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WE'VE WE WERE LEFT WITH A MESS FROM FROM THE CONSTRUCTION DONE WITH US, AND IT'S BEEN AN UNRESOLVED ISSUE FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS.>> I'M JEFF. SHE BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE DEBRIS.
ON JOHNSON ROAD, THEY'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION NOW, AND OUR POND ON JOHNSON ROAD WAS FILLED WITH A LOT OF STUFF THAT THE WIND BLEW OVER INTO THE WATER, SO THAT'LL PROBABLY HAPPEN AGAIN.
MY HOUSE IS ABOVE LOT NUMBER 3 AND JUST FOR A POINT OF SHARING INFORMATION WITH YOU.
THE RIGHT SIDE OF MY HOUSE, THERE'S A CREEK BED.
THE WATER FLOWS BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES THERE, AND IT FILLS THAT POND IN THE BACKYARD.
EVERY TIME IT RAINS OUT, THERE'S WATER JUST COMING DOWN, FILLING UP THAT POND, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A WATER ISSUE.
THE LEFT SIDE OF MY HOUSE HAS THE CITY MADE CONCRETE FOR THE STORMWATER FOR THE ENTIRE LEFT SIDE OF THE HOA.
ALL THE STORMWATER FLOWS UNDER MY DRIVEWAY THROUGH MY BACK YARD AND INTO THEIR PROPERTY.
AS YOU HAVE SEEN, IT'S CAUSED A LOT OF DESTRUCTION.
THEIR HORSES ACTUALLY TRIP BECAUSE THE WATER IS MOVING THE EARTH SO QUICKLY THERE.
THERE DEFINITELY WILL BE SOME WATER RETENTION ISSUES FOR THE HOUSE ON LOT NUMBER 3.
SPEAKING OF THE TREES, 100% OF THE TREES HAVE A ORANGE PAINT STRIPE ON THEM, INCLUDING THE LARGE ELM TREE BACK THERE AND ALL OF THEM.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE HAD TO COUNT THE TREES, BUT THEY ALSO MARKED FOR DESTRUCTION?
>> NO. THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT MEANS AT ALL.
THE SURVEY WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE, THEY MARK THEM ONCE THEY'VE SURVEYED THEM SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'VE SURVEYED, SO THEY DON'T DOUBLE SURVEY TREES.
THAT'S ALL THAT MEANS. IT JUST MEANS THEY'VE BEEN SURVEYED.
>> PRESENTLY, WE HAVE THAT LOT, WE FEED THE HORSES, WE HAVE A WATER TROUGH FOR THEM ON A DAILY BASIS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY I'M GUESSING A FIVE TO 06,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME THERE FOR THAT SIZE LOT.
SHOULD I ANTICIPATE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF A TWO, TWO AND A HALF STORY HOME FOR A NEW VIEW?
>> WELL, YOU PROBABLY WILL BE LOOKING AT THE SIDE OF THE REAR OF A HOME THERE.
TWO STORY IS CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY ON THAT, JUST LIKE THE NEIGHBORS LEFT AND RIGHT OF YOU.
>> IS THERE A PLAN FOR ANY LANDSCAPING, PRIVACY, BEAUTIFICATION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
>> WELL, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH YOU ON THE FENCE.
DO YOU HAVE A WROUGHT IRON FENCE NOW? >> YES.
>> WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THE FENCE IF THAT WANTS TO BE AN OPAQUE FENCE, WE CAN CHANGE IT OUT.
>> I THINK THAT MIGHT NEED HOA APPROVAL FOR THAT.
>> WELL, WORK WITH YOU AND THE HOA TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.
>> IF YOU GET THROUGH ALL OF THE STEPS, THE ADMINISTRATIVE STEPS, WHEN WOULD YOU EXPECT YOU TO START PUSHING DIRT IN EARLY 2026?
>> I'M SORRY, I'VE GOT TWO FOLLOW UPS, JUST LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION THAT ARE SUGGESTIONS, MAYBE.
ONE WOULD BE, AS I LOOK AT THAT AND I HAVE ALL THE DETAILED PLATS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS WELL FROM THE HOA.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE YOU COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN THAT COULD BE REVIEWED WITH ACCESS FROM JOHNSON ROAD INTO THE THING.
YES, IT WOULD MAKE THE LOTS A LITTLE SMALLER, BUT YOU COULD HAVE INGRESS ON THE LEFT SIDE.
YOU COULD EVEN DO SOMETHING WITH THE WATERWAY THAT JEFF MENTIONED UNDERNEATH THERE AS PART OF THAT WITH THE CITY.
DOING THAT, YOU COULD ALSO COME UP THE OTHER SIDE.
WILTRE, I BELIEVE, IS BUILDING THE CUSTOM HOME ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU ALSO HAVE THE LARGE LOT FOR SALE AND A FEW OTHER THINGS THERE ON THE ROAD, SO YOU'D BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
JUST A SUGGESTION MAYBE THAT MIGHT APPEASE.
I REALIZE A PROFIT DYNAMIC, BUT YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY GET A GREATER IMPACT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A SECLUDED GROUP OF HOMES THERE AS OPPOSED TO THE ACCESS IN AND OUT.
SECOND QUESTION THAT I HAD, THOUGH, IS WITH THE OWNERSHIP OF THE LOT AND THE DEVELOPMENT, IS THERE ANY OWNER THAT'S CURRENTLY A RESIDENT OR AFFILIATED WITH THE JOHNSON PLACE HOA? I'M ASKING THAT FROM A CONFLICT OF INTEREST STANDPOINT.
>> BACK AGAIN. THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT ANNEXING VERSUS JUST LETTING YOU BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANT TO BUILD.
WHAT IS THE SENTIMENT IN THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE GOING THERE?
>> YOU MEAN ANNEXING THE LOTS INTO THE JOHNSON PLACE HOA? WE'RE OPEN TO DISCUSS THAT. WE'RE NOT AGAINST IT.
>> THERE'S NO PRE DETERMINATION ON THAT AT THIS POINT?
>> NO, NOT AT ALL. IT IT WAS JUST SUGGESTED TO US BY SOME OF THE CITY LEADERS
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THAT YOU FOLKS MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN HAVING THREE MORE DUES PAYING HOMES ADDED TO THAT.[OVERLAPPING] WE'RE NOT DEMANDING THAT OR REJECTING.
>> THE PROCESS WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU PURSUED THAT ROUTE BECAUSE OUR DECLARATIONS WOULD DETERMINE HOW YOU CAN BUILD THOSE HOUSES BECAUSE OF OUR RESTRICTIONS.
YOUR BUILDING MATERIALS, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD ALL BE DETERMINED BY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES, SO YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANTED.
WELL, WE CAN WE CAN LOOK AT YOUR RESTRICTIONS AND DECIDE IF THEY WORK.
THESE HOMES WILL BE VERY HIGH QUALITY HOMES.
>> WELL, STILL, THEY'D HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.
OUR BUILDING MATERIALS WERE DETERMINED BY WHAT'S IN OUR ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES.
>> WE CAN WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AND SEE.
>> THE ONLY WAY THAT THAT WOULD CHANGE IS IF WE AMENDED OUR DECLARATION, WHICH REQUIRES THAT 75% OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO APPROVE THAT.
>> THE OBJECTION SEEMS TO BE NO ANNEXATION.
WE WERE JUST OFFERING TO AGREE TO THAT IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE GOING TO WANT CONTROL.
>> I DON'T WANT THIS IN PARTICULAR, AS I'VE ALREADY SAID, BUT I ALSO APPRECIATE WHERE JOHN WAS COMING FROM IN TERMS OF THE ABILITY TO BUILD FROM JOHNSON ROAD.
THEN WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
HOWEVER, MANY HOUSES YOU WANT TO CRAM ON THAT LOT WOULD BE FINE WITH US.
RIGHT NOW, I THINK THERE'S TOO MANY AND IT ALSO IS INTERFERING WITH OUR PROPERTY AND OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
>> QUESTION. I'VE HEARD THE QUESTION ASKED A COUPLE OF TIMES IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
BUT IN REGARDS TO THE BUILDING OF THREE HOUSES, IS THERE A REQUIREMENT IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE THAT IF YOU BUILD TWO OR THREE HOUSES ON A LOT, YOU NEED TWO WAYS IN AND OUT.
YOU JUST CAN'T COME OUT JOHNSON WROTE, IF YOU BUILD IN TWO OR THREE HOUSES?
>> THE REQUIREMENT IS THE CUL-DE-SAC CAN'T BE ANY FURTHER LONGER THAN 1,000 FEET AND YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN I BELIEVE IT'S 20 HOMES ON A SINGLE POINT OF ACCESS, SO THIS IS WELL UNDER TAKEN.
>> THIS IS WHY YOU'RE TRYING TO GO INTO BERMUDA COURT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PUT TWO OR THREE HOUSES ON THE ONE LOT?
>> WELL, THAT'S NOT THE REASON, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE.
>> OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT IS THAT GREEN BAR DOWN THE WHOLE LENGTH ON THE LEFT SIDE?
>> THAT'S A LANDSCAPE EASEMENT.
>> YOU SAID THE FIRST HOUSE TOWARD JOHNSON ROAD HAS ACCESS TO JOHNSON, AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT LONG STRIP, AND ALL THREE HOUSES HAVE THE ACCESS OUT? OR AGAIN, I'M WONDERING THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT FOR SOME REASON BASED ON CITY REGULATIONS.
>> WELL, I THINK THE CITY WOULD HAVE PERHAPS SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT LONG, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE. IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE.
>> THE DEVELOPMENTS BEHIND US HAVE A ROAD THAT GOES MUCH LONGER.
>> THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS FURTHER WEST FROM US.
YOU GUYS AREN'T APPROVING ANYTHING HERE.
YOU'RE JUST LISTENING TO WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> THIS IS JUST Q&A BETWEEN APPLICANTS AND RESIDENTS.
>> IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE AT THE WRONG COMMITTEE.
WHAT'S THE NEXT COMMITTEE WILL WE GO? WE DON'T WANT YOU CUTTING INTO REMEDIAL COURT. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
>> THE NEXT POINT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DON'T CARE IF PEOPLE WANT TO BE BRIBED WITH STUFF.
BUILD AS MANY HOUSES AS YOU WANT OVER THERE, BUT STAY OVER THERE.
>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEWPOINT.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE WILL BE A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AND THEY DO VOTE AT THAT.
THEN AFTERWARDS, THERE'LL BE A COUPLE OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M GOING TO BE IN THAT MEETING AS WELL.
>> YOU CAN COME TO THAT MEETING AND YOU CAN SPEAK AND MAKE YOUR VIEWS KNOWN.
>> HOW DOES SPIN STAND ON? IT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN TO US THAT THEY HAVE ANNEX TO OUR PROPERTY.
WHEN AND WHO LOOKS AT THAT? THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WHEN WE SAY THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD.
ACCORDING TO THE PLOT, THAT'S ON THE RECORD.
>> THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN CALL THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ABOUT AND SPEAK TO SOMEONE.
>> SOUNDS LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE AND WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THAT.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT? THANK YOU GUYS.
>> JERRY STATUM AND TORN JOHNSON,
[3. SPIN2025-08 – An applicant is proposing a 16-lot residential subdivision on Arthur Janes property, known as Jane’s Creek, generally located at 1318-1360 N. Peytonville Ave., and 1352-1354 Post Oak Trail, within SPIN Neighborhood #5 ]
ARE HERE TO PRESENT OUR SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING,[00:35:01]
WHICH IS SPIN 2025-08.AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 16 LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION ON ARTHUR JAMES PROPERTY KNOWN AS JAMES CREEK, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1318 1360 NORTH PEYTONVILLE AVENUE, AND 1352 1354 POST OAK TRAIL WITHIN SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 5.
>> WELCOME, EVERYONE. THANKS FOR COMING OUT.
I'VE TALKED TALKED TO I THINK A FEW GUYS ON THE PHONE.
I AM BORN AND RAISED IN GRAPEVINE.
I RAISED TWO DRAGONS, LAST ONE JUST GRADUATED IN 2024.
I'M ACTIVE NATIONAL DEVELOPER, BUT HAVE DONE SOME STUFF LOCAL IN SOUTHLAKE.
I'VE BEEN HERE 45 YEARS, ALSO.
KIDS WENT THROUGH THE SOUTHLAKE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AS A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, RETIRED AS A BATTALION CHIEF AFTER ALMOST 30 YEARS.
I BUILT HOMES ALL MY DAYS OFF, AND THAT'S HOW I GO.
HELLO. IS IT ME OR THE ME? SORRY. LET ME START OVER.
I'M THE FOUNDER OF COLY HOMES.
I WAS A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, RETIRED AS BATTALION CHIEF.
AFTER 30 YEARS, ALWAYS BUILT HOMES ALL MY DAYS OFF.
JERRY AND I'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER OUR ENTIRE LIVES FROM THIS AREA.
WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE.
OUR GOAL IS TO MEET Y'ALL'S NEEDS, OUR NEEDS, AND THE CITY'S NEEDS, AND THIS QUICK Q&A HERE, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT DIRECTIONS WE NEED TO HEAD IN.
THE CITY URGED US TO COME DO THIS.
I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE SOME STUFF THAT YOU GUYS WILL NEED, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SHARE IT AS I GET IT.
MY TOPOLOGY WITH MY DRAIN OFF.
I KNOW BRUCE HAS SENT ME PROBABLY 10 VIDEOS OF SOME FLOODING, BUT JUST BEAR WITH ME ON SOME OF THAT.
I THINK I JUST COVERED THIS ON ABOUT US.
OUR PHILOSOPHY AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THE JAMES FAMILY SELECTED US TO TRY TO WORK WITH THEM ON THIS IS WE REALLY BOTH OF US LIVE UP ON THE LAKE.
I'VE DEVELOPED ON THE LAKE IN SOUTHLAKE, AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO DISTURB ANYTHING.
I DO THINK THIS PROPERTY IS SO PRISTINE AND SO HEAVILY TREED AND I KNOW ALL YOU GUYS LIVE AROUND IT.
IT IS, IN SOME WAYS, WISH ART WOULD LIVE FOREVER.
BECAUSE WHAT HE HAD BACK THERE IS PRETTY SPECIAL.
BUT OUR APPROACH HAS BEEN TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE CHANGE TO TRY TO DO THE BEST WE COULD WITH KEEPING IN MIND WHAT THE JAMES FAMILY WANTS TO GET OUT OF THE PROPERTY AND WHAT CAN BE DEVELOPED, AND THEN THE CITY'S FORWARD SPACE.
HAVING THAT SAID, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 25 ACRES IS ROUGHLY THE TOTAL PROPERTY.
THE SURVEY WAS JUST COMPLETED.
THERE'LL BE 16 AS PROPOSED ONE ACRE PHYSICAL LOTS OR MORE.
MOST OF THEM ARE BIGGER THAN ONE ACRE.
BUT THERE'S NO BLENDING OF, HEY, HERE'S THE ACREAGE, AND THIS IS THE ACTUAL HOUSES.
WE'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF THE CITY BEFORE, AND THEY'VE SAID, LOOK, ONLY THING WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE DOWN THERE IS ONE PLUS ACRE LOTS.
THERE'S NO PLANNED CHANGES TO THE TOPOGRAPHY OR THE POND OR THE STREAM OR ANY OF THAT THAT'S BACK THERE.
WE WANT TO UTILIZE THE PRE-PLANNED CITY ZONING AND ACCESS EASEMENT.
WHERE YOU WANT TO REPLACE OR WE WILL REPLACE THE EXISTING FENCING ALONG PEYTONVILLE.
IF WE GET THE ENTRANCE FROM WOOD CREEK, WE WOULD CREATE AN ENTRANCE THAT'S EITHER FENCED LIKE THAT, I HAVE PICTURES OR NOT.
I REALLY HAVEN'T MET WITH ANYBODY FROM THE WOOD CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD YET.
THE IDEA WOULD BE TO ACCESS THE GREEN SPACE FROM THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SOME OF THE FENCING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT LOOKS A LOT LIKE HOW ART DID IT ORIGINALLY, BUT WE WON'T BE USING WOOD.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STREETS, THE NARROWEST STREETS THAT WE COULD GET THAT MEETS CITY REQUIREMENTS.
PROBABLY WON'T HAVE CURBS, BUT IN SOME OF THESE AREAS WHERE THERE'S RUNOFF AND WATER, WE'RE GOING TO NEED CURBS TO SHAPE THE WATER.
THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE ENTRANCES THAT I'VE DONE UP ON A LAKE.
I MEAN, I TRIED TO WORK AROUND EVERY LARGE TREE POSSIBLE.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED FOOTPRINT.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS A SECOND L, BUT WE ORIGINALLY, THERE WAS A CITY EASE INTO POST OAK.
WHEN WE BROUGHT IT UP, THE JINES PROPERTY WAS LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHERE THEY ACCESS THE PROPERTY.
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WE HAD PROPOSED THAT.GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
I THINK SOME OF YOU GUYS, I PUT SOME ENVELOPES IN, AND THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING ANYBODY WAS HAPPY ABOUT.
I'M NOT SURE WHY THE CITY PLANNED THE ACCESS THERE.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN FRONT OF P&Z TO GET REALLY ANY FIRM FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY.
BUT I BACKED THAT OUT AND JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT LOT AS PLATTED.
THERE WOULD JUST BE ONE HOUSE UP ON THAT CORNER LOT AS YOU GUYS ON THAT NORTHERN PICTURE CAN SEE.
THEN THERE WOULD BE 10+1 PLUS ACRE LOTS THAT WOULD GO OUT TO PEYTONVILLE, AND THEN FIVE ONE PLUS ACRE LOTS THROUGH WOOD CREEK.
WHY? YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO ASK ME SOME QUESTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S NO REALLY GOOD WAY TO NOT DISTURB THIS IF I'M GOING OVER THE CREEK OR THE POND FROM PEYTONVILLE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CITY SAW TO BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CREEK DRAINING THROUGH INTO A POND DOWN INTO A CREEK.
I MEAN, COULD WE BUILD SOME BRIDGE OR SOMETHING OVER THE TOP OF THAT, PROBABLY, BUT WE WOULD BE DISTURBING A LOT OF STUFF, WILDLIFE AND SUCH.
WE LOOKED AT DOING THAT, MET WITH THE CITY, TALKED TO THEM, OUR ENGINEER, AND THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO GO BACK ON THE WOOD CREEK SIDE.
>> IT TRULY IS OUR INTENT TO KEEP THAT AS NATURAL LOOKING AS POSSIBLE BACK THERE.
WE KNOW OLD SOUTHLAKE, WE LIKE OLD SOUTHLAKE.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE BIG DEVELOPERS.
WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY AS CLOSE TO ITS ORIGINAL STATUS AS POSSIBLE AND ADDING 16 HOUSES.
>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I MEAN, I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE TONS OF QUESTIONS, SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW AND WHAT I DON'T KNOW, AND WHAT I'LL TELL YOU WHEN I THINK I WILL KNOW.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DRAINAGE THAT STARTS HERE THAT REALLY AFFECTS VIDEO WISE, ANYWAY, THESE THREE HOUSES.
BUT ON A TOPOLOGY, REALLY THE SLOPE DETERMINES ALL OF THAT.
WE JUST REALLY HAVE TO GET THAT BACK.
I KNOW SOME OF THAT WATER ORIGINATES ON PEYTONVILLE, OR EVEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF PEYTONVILLE, AND COMES ACROSS.
I DO THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO CATCH SOME OF THAT, AND WHETHER THAT'S TO CATCH IT AND BRING IT DOWN HERE. I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THAT'S REALLY CATCH IT AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT, BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME OF THAT TO MITIGATE THIS.
THE REST OF THIS STUFF WILL JUST BE DONE MOST LIKELY WITH THIS SHAPING OF THE LOTS.
BY THE WAY, I HAVE NO SAY IN THIS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S ON PEYTONVILLE.
THE CITY WILL WORK WITH US AND DETERMINE WHAT WE CAN DO.
BUT I REALLY WANT TO GET FEEDBACK CONSTANTLY.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE SOME STRONG OPINIONS OR PREFERENCES.
>> I THINK I'LL START HERE. YOU AND I HAVE HAD LOTS OF COMMUNICATIONS.
I THINK WE ON THE POST OAK SIDE, WERE PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT AND WHAT IT IS THAT WE DON'T WANT.
JUST TO REITERATE THAT, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FLOODING, WHICH WE SENT YOU SOME VIDEOS, AND I HAVE OTHERS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE.
THE ONE PLUS ACRE LOT WAS A BIG DEAL.
IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS A GROUP THAT WAS HERE ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE AS WELL.
I KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN CROSS TIMBERS HILLS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AT WOOD CREEK, AND THEN A LITTLE FURTHER OVER TO THE WEST, THERE'S LAKEVIEW DRIVE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT WATER COMING OFF OF PEYTONVILLE AND COMING DOWN THROUGH YOUR PLACE, AND COLLECTING IN THAT POND.
THERE'S A CREEK THAT RUNS BEHIND MY HOUSE, EVERYBODY ON THAT SIDE OF POST OAK.
THAT WATER COLLECTS, AND AT THE END OF POST OAK.
ONE OF THE PICTURES I SENT YOU WAS A HUGE, HUGE.
IT'S ANOTHER BIG COLLECTION POINT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WATER THERE.
THE TREE ISSUES, I KNOW THAT THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR ALL OF US, AND YOU GUYS SAY THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
I MEAN, HOW ARE THOSE GOING TO BE REGISTERED? IS IT THE DRIP LINE? IS IT THE CIRCUMFERENCE? ALL OF THOSE KINDS?
>> YEAH, SO THE CITY POLICY, IT'S SWITCHED, SO WE HAVE TO BASICALLY SURVEY ANYTHING GREATER THAN 6".
THEN AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I'M WORKING WITH CITY ARBORS.
THERE CAN'T BE MORE THAN A 50% REDUCTION IN THE CANOPY, WHICH A CANOPY IS HOW FAR THE LIMBS STICK OUT,
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SO THERE'S ROUGHLY, WE JUST GOT OUR TREE SURVEY BACK.I WANT TO SAY THERE'S 1,300 TREES ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S GREATER THAN 6", BUT WE'RE JUST NOW BEGINNING THE CANOPY WORK, BECAUSE YOU GOT TO MARK THE TREES, AND THEN THAT TELLS THE GUYS WHICH CANOPIES TO GO OUT AND MEASURE.
WE'RE NOT THERE YET. BRUCE, BUT WE'LL GET THERE AND AS SOON AS I GET ANY.
THAT'LL REALLY BE JUST ACROSS THE WHOLE 24 ACRES, SO I'M NOT SURE.
>> THEN ONE LAST THING THAT I THINK THAT I'M FINISHED, I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR.
ARE YOU CONSIDERING AN ENTRANCE INTO YOUR PROPERTY OFF OF PEYTONVILLE OR WOOD CREEK? YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT.
>> WELL, WHEN I INITIALLY CAME UP HERE WITH THE SURVEY THAT THE JAMES FAMILY GAVE ME, THERE IS ACCESS EASEMENT RIGHT HERE.
WHEN I CAME UP TO THE CITY, I'M LIKE, WOW, I WONDER WHY THE CITY PUT AN ACCESS EASEMENT THERE.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT, MAYBE THEY WANT TO.
THAT'S THE WAY THEY WANT TRAFFIC TO FLOW.
THAT'S WHAT I SHOWED THEM. I DON'T THINK THEY WERE FOR OR AGAINST IT.
THEY WERE JUST GIVING ME FEEDBACK ON NUMBER OF LOTS, ACREAGE, IS WHEN I WOULD TALK TO YOU GUYS THAT YOU'RE LIKE, CAN WE DO THIS ANOTHER WAY, AND SO I JUST ON THIS SHOWING AND WHAT I'M GOING TO SUBMIT AT P&Z, I'M GOING TO NOT RECOMMEND THIS.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY'S GOING TO COME THROUGH AND SAY, NO, WE WANT THIS.
THERE'S SOME EMERGENCY VEHICLE POLICY.
I WOULDN'T THINK SO BECAUSE, A STANDARD CUL-DE-SAC WILL TAKE 23 HOUSES.
THAT'S WHAT THE SAFETY REGULATION IS.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THE CITY WOULD WANT US TO PUT THAT IN THERE FOR NO REASON. MY GUESS.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS KRISTIN LINE.
I ALSO LIVE IN THE POST OAK TRILL NEIGHBORHOOD.
A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN, CLOSER TO THE FEDERAL FLOODWAY.
I THINK THAT ALL ARE ACTUALLY IN A VERY BAD POSITION BECAUSE THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE HAS NOT TAKEN ADEQUATE CARE TO PROTECT ITS RESIDENTS FROM FLOODING FROM ALL THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.
SHADY OAKS, EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN CROSS TIMBERS, AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT'S ACTUALLY DOWNSTREAM FROM US ALONG THE HIGGINS BRANCH.
I GET TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED BECAUSE OF ALL THAT WATER BEING NOT BEING MITIGATED AND THE SPEED OF THAT WATER NOT BEING MITIGATED AS WE DIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO SMALLER AND SMALLER LOTS, AND WE PUT MORE AND MORE CONCRETE ON TOP OF THEM.
I DO LIKE THAT YOU HAVE DECREASED TWO LOTS IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN, CERTAINLY ARE LISTENING, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT JUST NOT JUST YOU, BUT THE CITY NEEDS TO ADDRESS THE WATER PROBLEM THAT CREATED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE YOUR JOB HARDER BECAUSE WE'RE VERY INCLINED TO BE NOISY TO HELP PROTECT EVERYBODY DOWNSTREAM.
>> OH, I THINK THAT IS YOU SHOULD BE NOISY.
LOOK, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S IMPACTING YOU GUYS.
LIKE I SAID, WE'RE YOUR NEIGHBORS TOO.
>> WELL, IT'S IN TERMS OF GETTING TO WHERE WHAT WE CAN CONTROL, AND ULTIMATELY, WHAT THE CITY SHOULD CONTROL IS TO DO SOME ENGINEERING CALCULATIONS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE IMPACT IS.
>> WE CAN WORK WITH THEM ON THAT. WE WILL.
>> AS FAR AS IMPACT UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S EXISTING ISSUES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PLAN WOULD BE THERE, BUT IT'S FEEDBACK THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE.
>> HI. I'M BARBA ATKINS, AND I LIVE ON FOREST LANE IN CROSS TIMBER HILLS.
I'M SPEAKING FOR SEVERAL OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT COULDN'T ATTEND DESIGN AND FOR MYSELF AND MY HUSBAND.
THE IDEA OF OPENING WOOD CREEK TO THIS NEW SUBDIVISION IS ABHORRENT FOR US.
CONSTRUCTION WISE, TRAFFIC WISE, IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.
THERE SHOULD BE JUST ONE ENTRANCE, I THINK OFF OF PEYTONVILLE FOR THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.
I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THE MAP THERE, AND I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED THOUGH ABOUT LOTS 16, 15, 14, 13 THAT ARE RIGHT.
I BELIEVE THAT'S A FLOODPLAIN, IS IT NOT?
>> NO, THE FLOODPLAIN IS HERE.
>> WHAT ARE THOSE LOTS THOUGH THAT YOU HAVE FOR?
>> THERE'S WATER GOING THROUGH THERE.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY PUT IN CONCRETE ON ALL THOSE LOTS AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE WATER THEN?
>> WELL, SOME AREA CAN'T BE BUILT.
THAT'S WHY IT'S A TWO ACRE LOT.
YOU HAVE ONE ACRE THAT'S DEVELOPABLE AND THEN ONE ACRE THAT'S THOSE LOTS.
>> WELL, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY,
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WE'RE GOING TO DO THE CALCULATIONS AS A PART OF THIS TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT IS.THE SAME ANSWER THAT THEY HAVE.
IS JUST LOOKING AT HERE'S WHERE THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE, HERE'S THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, HERE'S THE RUNOFF THAT WOULD CREATE.
>> WELL, I AGREE WITH THE OTHER YOUNG LADY THERE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WATER ISSUE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WATER PROBLEMS THAT COME THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT IS A BIGGER SPIN RIGHT THERE.
>> AT THE WAY THAT, THIS IS A KNOWN 200 WE CAN'T DISTURB THAT AT ALL.
IN TERMS OF CHANGING IT OR MANIPULATING THE WATER, THAT'S NOT WHAT A DEVELOPER CAN DO.
BUT WE CAN CALCULATE WHAT ELSE WOULD GO INTO IT, WHICH I THINK IS ONE OF YOUR ISSUES, WHICH IF THERE'S MORE WATER IN IT, THEN WHAT WOULD NATURALLY HAPPENING DURING RAIN? THERE COULD BE SOME FT.
>> THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE WATER BECAUSE OF THE CONCRETE AND THE STREETS PAVED OR WHATEVER.
YOU'RE CREATING A MONSTER THERE, I THINK.
BUT BACKING UP THE WOOD CREEK ENTRANCE IS NOT A FAVORABLE THING FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. APPRECIATE THAT.
>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SECOND WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT WOOD CREEK, AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER PROPOSAL, JUST MAYBE NOT THIS ONE, AND ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AT WOOD CREEK AS FAR AS ADVERTISING YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
THE CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE AND DISABLED PEOPLE IN THAT AREA THAT WALK UP AND DOWN THAT CUL DE SAC, VERY UNDISTURBED, AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD IMPACT THEIR LIVES IN A VERY NEGATIVE WAY TO HAVE POSSIBLY 20 MORE CARS.
IF A FAMILY HAS FOUR CARS AND GOING IN AND OUT DELIVERIES, ALL THE OTHER GARBAGE TRUCKS.
I JUST REALLY THINK THAT IT WOULD IMPACT THAT QUALITY OF LIFE RIGHT NOW.
I'D LIKE TO SEE A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL.
MAYBE LOSE LOT SIX, MAKE IT AN ENTRANCE THAT GOES IN AND OUT OF PEYTONVILLE.
EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN BUILT THERE HAS NOT HAD TO IMPEDE INTO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> JUST I COULD POINT OUT RIGHT HERE, THIS DOTTED LINE, THESE DOTTED LINES ARE THAT'S THE FLOWAGE EASEMENT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
ALL OF THIS HERE, AROUND HERE AND ULTIMATELY THROUGH HERE WILL BE GREEN SPACE PEDESTRIAN EASEMENT, IF YOU WILL.
I DIDN'T POINT THAT OUT BEFORE.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU. >> [INAUDIBLE]
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. OH, GOOD.
>> [INAUDIBLE] SHE SAYS AND THE DRAINAGE ISSUES GETS IN THAT BILL.
>> I'M ALSO FROM CROSS TIMBERS.
I LIVE ON WOOD BROOK, WHICH INTERSECTS WITH WOOD CREEK.
I WASN'T REALLY CLEAR WHEN YOU WERE EXPLAINING IT.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE'S ALREADY AN EASEMENT THERE CREATED BY THE CITY AND PLANNING ON UTILIZING IT?
>> THAT EASEMENT IS STREET WIDE?
>> WE MAY NOT HAVE A SAY IN WHAT YOU DO THEN.
>> I THINK YOU WILL HAVE A VOICE AND CAN COME UP HERE IN FRONT OF COUNSEL.
THERE'S TWO, ACTUALLY THREE MEETINGS.
THERE'S P AND Z, AND THEN COUNSEL WILL VOTE TWICE.
I GUESS I CAN'T ZOOM IN ON THIS LINE, MAKE IT ANY BIGGER?
>> BUT IT'S YOU CAN SEE THESE SMALL LINES ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ROAD.
THAT'S THE ENTIRE EASEMENT FROM THIS LITTLE LINE RIGHT HERE TO THIS LINE, AND IT DEAD ENDS RIGHT INTO THE PROPERTY.
>> WELL, JUST TO REITERATE THE SAME CONCERNS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON WOOD BROOK, WHICH THE SPEED LIMITS 25 AND PEOPLE DRIVE 50 EASILY.
WE CALL AND COMPLAIN ALL THE TIME, AND MAYBE TWICE A YEAR, THEY'LL SEND A POLICE CAR TO SIT ON THAT ROAD AND GIVE OUT TICKETS.
BUT AS SHE WAS SAYING, THERE'S A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE, WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS AT ALL.
ALL THAT'S GOING TO DO IS INCREASE THE TRAFFIC.
IT'S ALREADY A STREET AS IT IS, AND TO INCREASE IT WITH MORE HOUSES IT'S VERY UNDESIRABLE FOR THOSE OF US THAT LIVE THERE.
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I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 40 YEARS SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT WAS NEW.
OVERALL, THE GOOD NEWS IS, I LIKE THE PLAN.
I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, BUT I ONLY SEE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE HOMES.
I'M COUNTING 20 CARS A DAY IN AND OUT, TOO.
IF YOU'RE OLD LIKE ME, YOU STAY HOME [LAUGHTER].
ONE THING THAT I LIKE ABOUT IT IS I WANT TO KNOW IF THE PEOPLE, WE HAVE A LOT OF WALKERS. I'M NOT ONE OF THEM.
YOU CAN TELL BY MY SHAPE, BUT WILL WALKERS HAVE ACCESS TO WALK DOWN WOOD CREEK AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT COMMON AREA?
>> YES. WE WERE CONSIDERING, AND AGAIN, WE WERE CONSIDERING THERE'S ACCESS RIGHT HERE TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
WE WERE CONSIDERING ABOUT MOVING THIS ACCESS AND PUTTING IT HERE PEDESTRIAN.
BRUCE, THEN BACK ALONG THIS WALL TO COME OVER THE DAM.
IT WOULD A WALKING PATH FOR ALL THREE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I DIDN'T PUT IT ON HERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO ALARM ANYONE.
BUT THAT'S REALLY UP TO YOU GUYS.
WE'RE TRYING TO AGAIN, KEEP THE PLACE GREEN, BUT OPEN IT UP.
I THINK A LOT OF YOU MAY HAVE HIKED OVER THERE ANYWAY.
BUT THAT WOULD BE THE THOUGHT.
BUT YES, DOWN HERE, THIS WOULD BE ALL OPEN TO ANYBODY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ELECTRIC GATES.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY OF THAT.
IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN LIKE YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE TODAY.
>> I'LL JUST REITERATE AND A THUMB THUMBNAIL SURVEY, I GUESS FROM MY NEIGHBORS AND STUFF.
A LOT OF IT IS WORRIED ABOUT THE WATER AND AND THE TRAFFIC.
BUT THIS PLAN TAKES AT LEAST OVER HALF OF THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM OFF THE TABLE.
BUT I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE WATER BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A WATER PROBLEM, BUT I HAVE SOME FLOODPLAIN ON MY PROPERTY, BUT IT NEVER REALLY HAPPENS FOR ME.
BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
I GUESS THE BIGGEST THING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH IS TO SATISFY PEOPLE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH DONE TO MOVE THAT WATER.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE IT TOO, BECAUSE WE JUST GOT CREEKS.
THEY WERE HERE BEFORE ANY OF US.
I'M A GARDENER IN THAT. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN SAVING SCRUB OAKS.
I'M LOOKING AT IF YOU DO SAVE THE TREES, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT, THERE'S SOME HARDWOODS HERE THAT ARE WORTH SAVING.
WE HAVE SOME SIX INCH TREES THAT WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF YOU PLANTED NEW TREES, AND MAYBE YOU COULD SAY, WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOME NICE HARDWOODS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THERE THAT WOULD MAKE IT REALLY LOOK NICE.
I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY NICE DEVELOPMENT. THAT I'M SURE.
>> THANK YOU. JUST ON THE TREE THING.
THE SURVEYORS WENT OUT AND SURVEY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ARBORIST, LICENSED ARBORIST THAT'LL CAPTURE THE SPECIE AND SO WE'LL KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, BUT THERE ARE SOME REALLY NICE TREES IN THERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF CLEANUP THAT SHOULD BE DONE, THERE'S A LOT OF DEAD TREES IN THERE AS WELL.
WHICH MAKES THE LIVE TREES HEALTHIER.
THAT WILL OCCUR, BUT UNTIL I GET THAT DATA, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH ALL YOU GUYS.
>> WELL, THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU'RE REASONABLE THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.
>> TRYING TO BE AS BEST WE CAN.
>> HELLO. I LIVE ON POST OAK TRAIL.
I JUST WANT SOME CLARITY, IF I COULD PLEASE.
>> THAT YOU WILL NOT USE POST OAK FOR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES WILL COME THROUGH PAINTING?
>>YES. THE ONLY TIME POTENTIALLY A CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE WOULD BE TO ACCESS THIS ONE LOT WHEN THERE'S A HOUSE BUILT HERE. CAN'T AVOID THAT.
>> SECONDLY, OUR BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT MOVING THROUGH POST OAK TRAIL IS WE DON'T WANT OUR PROPERTY VALUES TO BE DEVALUED.
WE DON'T WANT THAT THROUGH STREET.
WE BOUGHT THERE BECAUSE OF THE TREES AND BECAUSE OF THE CUL DE SAC.
WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BY ALL MEANS, BUT WE WANT IT TO ENHANCE THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY, NOT DETRACT FROM THE PROPERTIES.
>> AGREED. THAT'S WHY WE MADE THAT CHANGE.
>> THE HOMES WILL KEEP YOUR VALUES UP OF YOUR PROPERTIES.
>> BY THE WAY, I LOVE EVERYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN I DROVE THROUGH THERE IS VENTED SOUTH LAKE, BUT CERTAINLY VERY BEAUTIFUL.
>> HI. I ALSO LIVE ON POST TRAIL.
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MY NAME IS JEN WILDA, AND WE'VE LIVED IN SOUTH LAKE FOR 23 YEARS.MOVED A LOT, PICKED THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S QUIET AND IT'S PRIVATE.
THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF TREES THAT WE'VE LOST EVEN SINCE WE REMODELED.
WE HAPPENED TO LIVE WHERE THERE IS A RIGHT AWAY IN BETWEEN OUR HOME AND THE HOME NEXT TO US.
WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WE DID GO TO THE CITY, AND AT THAT TIME, THE ENGINEER WHO, WE NOW HAVE A NEW ENGINEER IN THE CITY GAVE US WRITTEN WORD AND THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
THE CITY RENEGED ON THOSE THINGS.
THERE JUST, I THINK NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF ASSURANCES BEYOND A PIECE OF PAPER FROM A CERTAIN PERSON.
MAYBE IT'S A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE, A COMMITTEE OF PEOPLE, REPRESENTING CROSS TIMBERS, THOSE OF US THAT ARE ON POST OAK OR IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND YOU GUYS OR WHOMEVER TO JUST AGREE TO SOME THINGS AND HAVE SOME TEETH TO IT BECAUSE THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN UPHELD FOR DRAINAGE, RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE NEIGHBORS THAT PROCEEDED WHEN I'VE BEEN THERE BECAUSE I'VE ONLY BEEN THERE FIVE YEARS.
FOR A LOT OF DRAINAGE ISSUES, THIS IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT, BUT LIVING THERE WHERE THAT RIGHT AWAY IS, THE DRAINAGE PIPE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD RUNS UNDERNEATH IT, SO THAT'S TO THE LEFT OF MY PROPERTY.
THAT'S A NIGHTMARE. IT'S A NIGHTMARE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD A FLOODED HOME.
WE BUILT UP ON AN EXISTING FOUNDATION, SO WE HAVEN'T FLOODED, BUT THE PEOPLE TO THE LEFT OF ME HAVE SEVERAL TIMES.
BRUCE AND TERESA ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ME.
KRISTEN IS A COUPLE DOORS DOWN.
I WILL SAY THAT WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE ON YOUR PLATE IS THAT THAT CREEK, ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW IT'S RUNNING UP AND DOWN, IT ALSO GOES TO THE LEFT.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THOSE NEIGHBORS FROM CROSS TIMBERS ARE HERE OR NOT.THE DRAINAGE FROM A NEWER HOME THERE.
SOME EXISTING HOMES, IT'S A T. THE DRAINAGE GOES WHERE WE CAN'T SEE AT THE TOP LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN INTO THIS HUGE AREA.
>> IT POOLS, AND EVERYTHING COMES ALL THE WAY TOWARDS WOOD CREEK.
IT COMES BEHIND ALL OF OUR HOMES.
THAT'S WHY DOVE ROAD IS FLOODED AND THE BRIDGE THERE, AND IT ALL DRAINS INTO WEST LAKE.
THAT GOES THAT WAY. I DON'T KNOW.
HAVE YOU GUYS EVER SEEN THAT ON DOVE ROAD WHEN THAT BRIDGE IS FLOODED?
>> NO. >> OR YOU'LL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
ALL OF THAT WATER FROM CROSS TIMBERS, THOSE NEIGHBORS, ALL OF US, THE JOHN'S PROPERTY, THESE POOR NEIGHBORS, THE ASKEWS, AND THEN ALL OF THE PEOPLE UP THAT CUL DE SAC ON CYPRESS CREEK.
ALL OF THAT WATER IS TRYING TO GO UNDERNEATH NEXT TO OUR HOUSE, BUT IS ALSO ON THE SURFACE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ALL WOULD COMMIT TO AN INDEPENDENT SURVEY, SOME SORT OF WATER STUDY IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE CITY WILL PROVIDE, BECAUSE WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE AS MUCH AS I LOVE OUR CITY, IT DOESN'T WORK.
IT HASN'T WORKED FOR ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS.
IT DOESN'T WORK FROM THE COVENTRY WATER, THE CROSS TIMBERS WATER, OUR WATER, OR SHADE OAKES.
EVERY DEVELOPMENT JUST MAKES IT WORSE.
I THINK YOU JUST HEAR US ALL SAYING THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET AN INDEPENDENT STUDY IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE CITY SAYS, SO WE CAN COMPARE AND HAVE MAYBE IT'S SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T LIVE IN THE CITY, SOMEBODY NON BIASED, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE BECAUSE GRAVITY WINS WITH WATER.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT MEANS ALL OF US ON POST OAK AND THE WOOD CREEK, AND WE'RE ALL JUST GOING TO GET MORE OF IT.
PEOPLE SWIMMING POOLS ARE GOING TO DRAIN INTO IT.
THE REALITY IS ALL OF THE GRAVITY IS JUST GOING TO TAKE WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, ALL OF IT.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE, I THINK NEXT TO THE ASKEW PROPERTY AT THE END OF POST OAK TRAIL.
IF I'M ONLY A COUPLE DOORS DOWN, BUT THAT LOT WERE DIFFERENT, MAYBE ADDED ON TO LOT FIVE, MAYBE WHAT IS THAT 11 DISAPPEARS.
MAYBE THERE'S AN EASEMENT THERE.
THAT AREA IS PARTICULARLY WET AND MAKES IT WORSE AS IS WHAT'S BEHIND LOT 12.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB DRAWING THIS UP.
BUT SINCE YOU DON'T GET TO LIVE THERE EVERY DAY AND EVERY SEASON, IT'S REALLY BAD.
IN OUR YARD, THE WATER WILL COME UP, OUR NEIGHBORS ARE IN A FLOOD ZONE.
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IT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP GOING AND IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN TOWARDS KRISTEN'S HOUSE, AND THEN EVENTUALLY EVERYBODY KNOWS IT GOES TO TERABLL.THAT'S MY SONG AND DANCE ON DRAINAGE.
THAT'S A REALLY BIG ONE FOR ME, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WHAT'S UNDERNEATH RUNS NEXT TO MY HOUSE, AND IT OVERFLOWS ON THE DRAIN.
THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME THAT BUILT A NEW HOME.
THEY TRIED TO MANACURE A WATERWAY, WHICH HAS HELPED.
BUT THE CITY CAME AND RAISED THE MANHOLE AND THE WATER HOLE AT THE END OF THE RIGHT AWAY AT THE BACK OF MY HOUSE.
LIKE FIVE FEET, AND IT STILL GOES UNDERWATER.
YOU JUST HAVE DEBRIS AND STUFF THAT COMES DOWN THERE.
BUT THAT IS ALSO LEADS TO MY SECOND POINT, WHICH IS THE TREE PRESERVATION, WHICH IS WHY WE PERSONALLY MOVED THERE BECAUSE IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL, AND YOU'VE SEEN THAT FROM WALKING THIS PROPERTY.
BUT THE LOSS OF TREES BECAUSE POST OAKS HATE ADDITIONAL WATER AND CHANGE IN DRAINAGE IS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
ALL OF US IN CROSS TIMBERS AND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE ENJOYED THESE BEAUTIFUL TREES.
THEY JUST NATURALLY STRESS OUT AND DIE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO SENSITIVE, BUT, OF COURSE, THEIR ENEMY IS WATER, EXCESS WATER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO PREVENT THAT, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE CREEK WHERE WE ALL HAVE PRIVACY BECAUSE THAT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE A POOL OF WATER FOR A LOT OF THOSE TREES, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOSE EVEN MORE.
I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
>> THE EASEMENT, I THINK, WOULD GO A LONG WAY SOMEHOW BUFFERING SOME OF THESE HOMES FROM, MAYBE IT'S A SETBACK.
I HAD A FATHER WHO DEVELOPED HOMES, AND BUILT HOMES FOR YEARS SO I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
BUT I THINK IF YOU COULD INCREASE THE SETBACK, THAT COULD HELP MAKE THE MEDICINE BETTER FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABUTTING NEXT TO A NEW HOME.
IF IT'S A 15 OR 20 FOOT SETBACK, MAYBE YOU CONSIDER THE BUILDING LINE TO BE FURTHER WHERE IT TOUCHES WHAT'S AN EXISTING PROPERTY.
MAYBE THAT HELPS WITH THE DRAINAGE.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE AESTHETICALLY FOR THAT, ALSO.
I THINK THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING TO ADD.
AGAIN, I'LL MENTION THE ASKEW PROPERTY JUST BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S RIGHT THERE AT THE END.
SHE'S NOT HERE. SHE'S OUT OF TOWN, BUT SHE'S ALSO IN THE CUL-DE-SAC.
I THINK THOSE MIGHT BE THINGS TO CONSIDER.
THEN I ALSO JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT I THINK YOU GUYS SAID 16 OR MORE HOMES, WHICH IS A CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO CAP IT.
>> IT WOULD BE 16 BECAUSE FROM A DEVELOPER COST, IF IT COSTS $30,000-75,000 PER ACRE TO DEVELOP THE LAND, LET'S SAY.
WHATEVER THE PRICE, DO YOU GUYS ALREADY OWN THE LAND IF YOU CLOSED ON THE DEAL?
>> WHATEVER YOUR CLOSING COST IS, AND ALL THOSE THINGS, AND THEN AS A DEVELOPER, AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO BRING IN, AND THE COST OF IT, AND IF IT'S 750,000-200,000 A LOT, TO BRING EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THE DRAINAGE, AND ALL THE THINGS.
I THINK WE'RE JUST ALL THINKING OF, OBVIOUSLY, YOU NEED TO MAKE MONEY, IT NEEDS TO BE GOOD, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE A REALLY GOOD BALANCE FOR WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE JAMES, WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU, AND THEN THE REST OF US WHO ARE GOING TO BE LEFT WITH THAT WHEN YOU GUYS PEEL OUT.
>> THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, JENNIFER, SERIOUSLY.
WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN TWO LOTS OUT OF IT.
WE'VE GONE FROM 18-16 BECAUSE WE CAME TO THE CORRIDOR MEETING, AND THOSE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WE TOOK FROM THAT.
WE WANT THIS TO BE A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
WE'RE NOT IN HERE TO RUFFLE IT UP.
>> IT'S WHAT WE DO FOR A LIVING, BUT WE WANT Y'ALL'S INPUT, WE WANT THE CITY'S INPUT.
>> WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY QUITE A BIT ON THE DRAINAGE.
WHERE'S IT REALLY OCCURRING FROM?
>> SHADY OATS, WHERE Y'ALL HAVING FLOODING PROBLEMS. THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE AS MANY AS Y'ALL DO SERIOUSLY, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT Y'ALL WANT.
>> ALL WE'RE REALLY REQUIRED TO DO AND ALL WE REALLY HAVE CONTROL OVER IS TO BE ABLE TO CALCULATE THE WATER ON OUR LAND.
THE BIG UNKNOWN FROM YOU GUYS IS WHERE IS THE OTHER CAPACITY AND WHO HAS THAT ENGINEERING?
>> WHAT WILL WE INHERIT VERSUS WHAT WE WILL CREATE? THOSE ARE BIG ASK.
I'M GOING TO BE POSITIVE HERE.
I THINK THE CITY WANTS TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, POTENTIALLY, AND THIS IS A GOOD REASON FOR THEM TO STEP UP, AND HELP US.
BUT WHATEVER WE DEVELOP, THE WAY THE DEVELOPERS WORK IS WE BUILD SOMETHING TO CITY SPECS THAT THEY APPROVE.
IT'S CALLED DEDICATING, AND THEY MAINTAIN IT, RIGHT.
>> I THINK AGAIN, LIMITED, BUT GROWING UP IN A HOUSEHOLD OF DEVELOPERS, AND BUILDERS.
THE LITTLE I'VE LIVED ON PEYTONVILLE, THAT DRAINAGE, I THINK THE CITY HAS TRIED TO IMPROVE, BUT THAT WATER DOES SIT THERE.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT A RETENTION POND, SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PRETTY AT THE VERY BEGINNING ENTRANCE OF THE JAMES PLACE STREET, WHERE LOT 1 OR 10 IS,
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COULD PERHAPS COLLECT SOME OF WHAT'S ALREADY IN EXISTENCE THERE.I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT THAT I HAVE, THAT COULD YOU RETAIN SOMETHING THERE BEFORE IT GOES DOWN THE GRAVITY FLOW.
I'M SORRY, I THINK MY LAST THING IS TORN.
I KNOW YOU'RE REPRESENTING COLY HOMES, BUT ARE THERE OTHER BUILDERS? ARE YOU GOING TO OPEN IT UP? WHAT IS YOUR PLAN ON NUMBER OF BUILDERS? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> I MEAN REALLY, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE UNDECIDED ON HOW MANY WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP.
THERE'S A LOT OF BUILDERS THAT HAVE CONTACTED US.
IF WE OPEN, WIT UP, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CERTAIN WHAT I WOULD CALL NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDING STANDARDS, THAT TYPE OF THING TO MAINTAIN WILDLIFE FLOW, AND ALL OF THAT, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY DECIDED.
IT'S NOT A MONEY THING FOR US, BUT I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY DIFFERENT BUILDERS.
I DON'T KNOW YET, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
>> IF WE DO, THEY WILL BE HEAVILY INTERVIEWED, AND THERE'S SOME THAT I KNOW I'VE WORKED WITH FOR YEARS THAT I TRUST THAT WILL PUT THE PRODUCT THAT WILL MAINTAIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> DO YOU ALL PLAN TO HAVE SPECS FOR ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL OR WHAT?
>> THEY'LL BE MORE LANDSCAPE CONTROL, AND SOME ARCHITECTURE CONTROL.
WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT SOME, I'M GOING TO SAY CRAZY, BUT JUST SOME INDEPENDENT FOLIAGE, AND SOMETHING IN ONE HOUSE, AND IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN THE NEXT.
WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT LOOK, AND FEEL WITH THE NATURAL.
THEY'LL BE SOME OF THAT DICTATED, AS WILL THE FENCING.
>> THEN, PROBABLY SOME BUILDING MATERIALS, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY BE SOME DEFINITE NOSE.
IT'S NOT THAT I'M WITHHOLDING IT YET, BUT I JUST WANT TO GET THROUGH THIS PART, BUT WE WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU AS SOON AS WE BEGIN TO DEVELOP IT.
I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE MID-SEPTEMBER TO END OF SEPTEMBER.
>> THANK YOU. I JUST KNOW THAT MATTERS TO ALL OF US BECAUSE WE LIVE IN VERY CLASSIC ENVIRONMENT.
>> WE DO WANT A SOME UNIFORM NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> WE DON'T WE WANT IT ALL TO LOOK ALIKE, INCLUDING ALL THE LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT.
>> SUPER EASY QUESTION. THIS IS A SOFTBALL.
IS THE FENCE THAT YOU'LL DESCRIBED ON PEYTON BILL? IS IT GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY? ONLY REASON I ASK. I LOVE THIS, BY THE WAY. I THINK IT'S GREAT.
SIZE OF THE ACRE OR SIZE OF THE LOTS FINE.
THE ONLY THING YOU'LL GOING TO NEED TO FIGURE OUT FROM SOMEBODY THAT HAS BEEN ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING FENCE IS YOUR GARAGE.
>> YOU OWN YOUR GARAGE? YOU GUESS WILL BE FINE.
IS THAT THE GOING PEYTONVILLE, AND THEN GOING DOWN IN CROSS TIMBER?
>> YEAH. THIS WOULD JUST BE ON THE ENTRANCES.
THE PLAN WOULD BE THIS WOULD JUST FOLLOW PEYTONVILLE ALL THE WAY DOWN SORT OF WHAT MR. JAMES HAD BEFORE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN IT THROUGH THE PROPERTY OR BEHIND THE HOUSES DOWN AT.
>> IF I COULD I CONVINCE YOU TO DO IT? BECAUSE IT'S JUST A CHAIN FENCE IN THE BACK, AND I'D LOVE TO HAVE A NICE FENCE [LAUGHTER].
I THINK LIKE ANY OF US AS A DEVELOPER, WE'RE CONSTANTLY IN, WHAT WOULD WE WANT TO DO? THEN IF SOMEBODY COMES IN, I'M LIKE ANY OF YOU GUYS, AND YOU BUY YOUR HOUSE, AND YOU SPEND X UMBER MILLION DOLLAR FOR IT, THEN IT'S YOUR HOUSE, AND YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU WANT ON YOUR PROPERTY.
OKAY, I WANT TO FENCE IN THIS WITH SOME FENCE WHERE MY DOGS CAN'T GET OUT OR WHATEVER.
WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE THIS BALANCE OF.
BUT IF YOU WANT THAT BEHIND, IF YOU WANT THAT.
>> I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT, BECAUSE EACH CHAIN LINK FENCE IS UGLY.
>> CUT HOLES IN IT PARTIALLY BECAUSE I LIKE TO THROW SOME FALLEN DEBRIS OVER IN THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
NOW I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THE ONLY BAD THING ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT [LAUGHTER].
>> BUT YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO APPRECIATE.
>> WE'RE REALLY HERE TO GET INFORMATION.
WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU ALL WANT US TO GO IN?.I MEAN US, EVERYBODY, THE CITY, Y'ALL, I MEAN AGAIN, WE'RE NOT IN HERE TO DICTATE OR DETERMINE ANYTHING TONIGHT.
WE'RE JUST GETTING INFORMATION SO WE CAN BUILD A PRODUCT THAT CAN BE PRESENTED TO EVERYBODY AT P&Z, AND EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT EVERYBODY HOPEFULLY HAPPY.
WE'RE NEVER GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, RIGHT? BUT IF WE CAN GET MAJORITY OF THEM HAPPY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE.
>> I THINK YOU ALL PROBABLY HAVE TO BECAUSE IT IS A CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH BARBED WIRE, AND ORIGINALLY IT WAS DONE TO KEEP THE KIND OF THE CATTLE UNTIL THE CATTLE ESCAPED.
>> YEAH, I THINK WE WOULD REMOVE THE OLD FENCE, FOR SURE.
THE QUESTION IS, DO WE REPLACE IT WITH ANYTHING? WHAT'S ON OUR PROPERTY? NOW, CLEARLY, IF IT'S A MUTUAL FENCE THAT HAS BEEN THERE,
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AND YOU'RE USING OR YOU HAVE PAID FOR IT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH ANY OF THAT BUT.>> CAN I SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ON A CROSS TIMBER THAT FENCING IT BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY THREE LOTS REALLY THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THIS, WHICH ARE THE MINE.
OLD SMOKY, AND THIS OTHER PERSON.
>> YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE IT DOWN, AND REPLACE IT WITH THAT.
>> OPEN TO HEAR THINGS, AND BENDING, AND FLEXING.
SOMETHING YOU SAID TO ECHO WHAT THEY'VE SAID ABOUT THE DRAINAGE ISSUE.
DURING ANOTHER PROJECT THAT I LIVE NEXT TO, THEY DID THE SOUTH-LAKE ARE MINIMUMS. I CAN TELL YOU THE SOUTH-LAKE ARE MINIMUMS AREN'T DOING IT.
I CAN TELL YOU HOW THREE AC UNITS OPERATE UNDERWATER.
THEY DON'T. IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE.
WHEN YOU SAID YOU FOLLOW SOUTH-LAKE STANDARDS, ARE YOU MAYBE WILLING TO RAISE THAT BAR A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE LEVEL OF HOMES YOU'RE GOING INTO TO MAKE SURE THAT SOUTH-LAKE MAY HAVE THIS LOW BAR, WILLING TO RAISE IT TO PRESERVE THEIR HOMES, THEIR PROPERTIES, THEIR SAFETY, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU 2.5 YEARS OF DEALING WITH SOUTH-LAKE [OVERLAPPING] I DO NOT ACTUALLY.
>> I LIVE OFF FAYE CHAPEL OFF NEXT TO ANOTHER DISASTER THAT THEY DID.
I CAN TELL YOU JUST BECAUSE SOUTH-LAKE HAS STANDARDS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY ARE WHERE MAYBE THEY WERE STANDARDS 30 YEARS AGO.
>> BUT THE CURRENT HERE, AND THE NOW, WHEN YOU START PUTTING ASPHALT, AND CONCRETE.
>. OR AT OUT THE DOOR. LISTENING TO WHAT THE HOMEOWNER SAID, AND KNOWING WHAT MY MY NIGHTMARE I'M DEALING WITH IS, AND TALKING TO CITY REPRESENTATIVES, AND TALKING TO REPRESENTATIVES THAT DID THE CONSTRUCTION.
>> WE LEAVE IN SOUTH FOR REASONS, BUT SOMETIMES YOU JUST HIT BRICK WALLS, DOORS.
IT JUST MIGHT AS WELL BE TALKING YOUR TREE IN YOUR YARD.
>> YEAH [OVERLAPPING]. TO ANSWER HONESTLY, WE HAVE TO JUST UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO OVER ENGINEER SOMETHING IF WE GIVE IT TO THE CITY, RIGHT? THE CITY WANTS YOU TO DO STUFF.
BUT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE CAPACITY, FOR INSTANCE, SOMEWHERE HERE OR THERE, THAT MAKES SENSE THAT MAKES IN THE PLAN.
ARE WE WILLING TO PUT IN MORE EXPENSIVE CAPACITIES? SURE, WE ARE.
I MEAN THIS IS A VERY, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY NICE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IF IT COSTS US X NUMBER OF DOLLARS TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY THAT THE CITY WILL ACCEPT, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
I JUST THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE ISN'T THE DRAINAGE NECESSARILY FROM THE JAMES PROPERTY.
WILL IT INCREASE? SURE. CAN WE ACCOUNT FOR THAT? SURE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A BIGGER PROBLEM THAT WE'VE GOT TO GET OUR HANDS AROUND.
T'S NOT JUST US, IT'S YOU GUYS TOO WITH THE CITY.
I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU THE SOLUTION, I JUST DON'T KNOW YET.
>> BRUCE, REAL QUICK, IS MAJORITY OF THE FLOODING OF THE POST OAK NEIGHBORHOOD?
>> [INAUDIBLE] IN BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> THAT'S WHERE THE COMES DOWN FROM PEYTONVILLE.>> WELL, I HAVE CROSS TIMBERS.
>> HI. MY NAME IS ALLISON ISRAEL.
I'M THE TREASURER OF THE CROSS TIMBER HILLS HOA, AND I WANT TO JUST QUICKLY REITERATE THE OPPOSITION TO MAKING A NEW ROAD TO CONNECT TO WOOD CREEK.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE DEVASTATING FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HAVE THREE YOUNG KIDS WHO WANT TO RIDE THEIR BIKES AROUND THERE, BUT THE STREETS ARE VERY NARROW.
WE HAD SOME CONSTRUCTION GOING ON ON PEYTONVILLE LAST YEAR, AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TURNED INTO A CUT THROUGH MOSTLY FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
IN THE MORNING, I WOULD BE OUT WALKING, AND THEY WERE DRIVING 40, 50 MILES AN HOUR, AND THEY WERE ALSO TEXTING.
IT BECOMES A REALLY UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE ADULTS WALKING, BUT ALSO FOR THE KIDS.
WE HAVE KIDS THAT RIDE THEIR BIKES, AND WALK TO SCHOOL OVER AT DURHAM WHERE MY SON GOES.
WE'VE DETERMINED THAT IT'S NOT SAFE FOR HIM TO DO THAT.
I THINK IF WE MADE THE CONNECTION HERE WITH ANOTHER ROAD COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WOULD ONLY EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM, AND THERE WOULD BE JUST A TON OF OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> MY PROPERTY IS THE FAR RIGHT CORNER, OPPOSITE CYPRESS CREEK.
THE COVENTRY PONDS, THAT'S WHERE THE DITCH THE BAR DITCH IS THERE,
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OR THE DITCH, COVENTRY PONDS COME THROUGH.FOR THE JAMES PROPERTY, THE WATER COMES FROM SHADY OAKS.
WELL, WE'VE SEEN THEM RUN PUMPS TO PUMP IT DOWN TOWARDS US.
SOME OF THE VIDEOS, I THINK, BRUCE SENT ARE FROM COMING ACROSS.
>> SHADY OAKS ACROSS PEYTONVILLE.
>> DOWN PAVILL INTO THAT AREA.
SHE IS TALKING ABOUT WHERE IT COMES THROUGH MY BACKYARD, IT ENDS UP, AND THEIR PIPE, AND IN THE BACK OF THEIR.
>> YEAH. BESIDE, AND I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY.
WE'VE BEEN ROUND, AND ROUND. I'VE HEARD 100 YEAR FLOOD FIVE TIMES.
I'VE HEARD 50 YEAR FLOOD SIX TIMES.
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS.
>> WE DON'T EITHER YET. BUT WE'RE TALKING.
WE ONLY HEAR THIS PRELIMINARY.
>> BUT I'VE HEARD [LAUGHTER] EVERYBODY SAY, YEAH.
I'VE GOT POSTS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN DOWN FROM THE FLOODING, JUST BOOM, TAKEN OVER.
YOU KNOW, ON THE JAMES PROPERTY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE PECAN TREES, LIVE OAKS WILDLIFE SPECIES, ALL OF THAT STUFF.
>> YEAH, I GREW UP IN AUSTIN TEXAS, MAN.
WE CAN GO ROUND AND ROUND WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT PROBLEMS IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND WHAT WE WENT THROUGH IN THE 70S, AND 80S.
IS MY CONCERN IS OBVIOUSLY THE WATER.
IF THERE'S AN INCREASED VOLUME OR SPEED, THE EROSION ON MY PROPERTY IS JUST GETTING TO MY NEIGHBORS PROPERTIES ARE JUST GOING TO INCREASE, TO THE POINT WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
I'D LIKE A COMMITMENT AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS CAN BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT'S OUT OF YOUR PREVIEW OF WHAT THE CITY CAN, AND CAN'T DO, WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
BUT A COMMITMENT FROM Y'ALL TO HELP US WITH THAT ISSUE SO WE CAN HELP YOU WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
>> I'LL GIVE YOU A COMMITMENT IF YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME SO WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION, ALL'S INPUT, THE CITY'S INPUT SO WE CAN COME UP WITH WHAT THE PLAN IS, AND THEN WE WILL COMMIT TO THAT PLAN.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE, THANK YOU.
IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME GOVERNANCE OR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO MANAGE THE COMMON AREAS, THE POND?
>> BOB PIPER, I HAVE LIVED IN CROSS TIMBER HILLS FOR 30 YEARS.
BEEN PAST PRESIDENT OF THE HOA, AND CROSS TIMBER HILLS.
WHEN SHADY OAKS WAS BUILT, AND WHEN WESTWOOD HILLS WAS BUILT.
BOTH PRESENTED DRAINAGE PROBLEMS FOR US.
WESTWOOD HILLS HAS HAD TO REDO THEIR SOMEWHAT IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN WHAT WAS AGREED TO THE WATER FLOW THAT WENT INTO HIGGINS CREEK.
SHADY OAKS, THEIR DETENTION POND AT THE CORNER OF NORTH PEYTONVILLE, HAS BASICALLY BEEN A FAILURE.
IT WIPED OUT THE HOMEOWNER DIRECTLY BEHIND IT, AND IT SATURATED THE LOTS ACROSS THE STREET IN CROSS DIMER HILLS.
THE CITY HAD TO COME IN, AND DO A REVAMP ON THE DRAINAGE.
IN THE PROCESS OF THAT, THEY PUT MORE WATER THROUGH CROSS TIMBER HILLS IN THE DITCHING SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.
THEY'VE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS.
>> BUT IT WOULD APPEAR THAT EVERY TIME A DEVELOPMENT GOES IN AROUND US, THAT WE END UP BEING THE RECIPIENT OF THEIR WATER.
SO FAR, NOT YOU GUYS, BUT THE DEVELOPERS BEFORE HAVEN'T DONE A REAL GOOD JOB OF DETERMINING HOW MUCH WATER WAS GOING TO BE COMING.
FROM THE LOOKS OF IT, ON THE CREEK SIDE OF YOUR POND, YOU'VE GOT FIVE HOMES OR LOTS BACKING UP TO THE FLOODPLAIN FOR HIGGINS CREEK.
WHAT WOULD BE THE RUNOFF? WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE IMPERMEABLE SURFACE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH?
>> I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA YET.
>> I UNDERSTAND. YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD HOMES IN THE $4 MILLION RANGE.
>> SQUARE FOOTAGE RIDES, MOST LIKELY THEY'LL BE 6-9.
IT'S MY GUESS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THESE HOLE LIKE [INAUDIBLE]
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>> CAN YOU HAVE AT LEAST 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
>> I WOULD THINK SOMEWHERE BETWEEN.
>> WELL, UNDER ROOF, MAYBE NOT THE SLIDE.
>> THEN YOU'VE GOT PATIOS, SPORT COURTS, DRIVEWAYS, TENNIS COURTS.
>> HOPEFULLY, NOT TENNIS COURTS BUT-
>> YOU'D BE SURPRISED WHAT YOU CAN GET ON AN ACRE IF YOU TRY.
THAT SEEMS TO BE PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH SHADY OAKS IS THEY GAVE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOME AND DIDN'T REALLY LOOK AT WHAT PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO SPEND THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR A HOME.
WE'RE GOING TO WANT A PATIO, SWIMMING POOL, SPORT COURT.
>> THERE'S WAYS WE CAN'T HELP WITH THAT.
MAYBE WE HAVE PERM DRIVEWAYS, PASTE STONE, POOL DECKING PASTE STONE, SIDEWALKS, PASTE STONE, SOMEWHERE WHERE IT ALLOWS WATER.
I DON'T KNOW YET. AGAIN [OVERLAPPING].
>> I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST TELLING YOU'VE GOT OTHER DEVELOPER HISTORY AROUND THIS PROPERTY THAT HAS CREATED PROBLEMS FOR CROSS TIMBER HILLS AND THE RESIDENTS THERE.
AS FAR AS THE ENTRY OFF OF WOOD CREEK, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR CROSS TIMBER HILLS TO HAVE THAT.
THAT ROAD HAS BEEN BASICALLY EFFECTIVELY A COOL SAC FOR 40 YEARS.
YOU'VE GOT FIVE BUILDING LOTS THERE.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO BUILD THE SCALE HOME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN.
>> I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU'LL HAVE THREE GOING AT ONE TIME AT LEAST?
>> I'D PROBABLY TRY TO NOT CALL FIVE JUST TO GET IT HAVE THE [INAUDIBLE].
IT MIGHT NOT BE JUST ME, IN MY TWO YEARS [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE KEY IS IS WE'RE GOING TO WE'LL CALL IT TWO YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC COMING IN ACROSS TIMBER HILLS, GOING DOWN WOOD CREEK, EVERYTHING FROM STANDARD PICK UP TRUCKS TO CONCRETE.
BASICALLY, IT'S NOT THE HOMEOWNERS ON WOOD CREEK AND IN THE VICINITY ON WOODBROOK LANE ARE GOING TO BE EXPERIENCED IN THIS HEAVY WORKLOAD.
IF YOU'VE DRIVEN THROUGH CROSS TIMBER HILLS, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT OUR ROADS ARE EXTREMELY NARROW.
>> THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE THAT'S PAVED TO PARK ALONG THE ROAD.
THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE WOOD CREEK CONNECTION TO CROSS TIMBER HILLS JUST BASICALLY GO AWAY.
I HAVE A GOOD DEAL OF CONCERN FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ALONE.
HIGGINS CREEK FROM THOSE FIVE LOTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD ON BECAUSE WELL, ART JAMES' POND IS SAYING STAYING THERE.
EVERYTHING BETWEEN THE POND AND HIGGINS CREEK IS NOW GOING TO DRAIN DIRECTLY INTO HIGGINS CREEK.
I'LL COMPLIMENT YOU. I'M SORRY.
BUT WE ALL KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO END UP BEING DEVELOPED ONCE ART EITHER DECIDED TO DO SO.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF GROUND.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IT AS A GOOD PIECE OF GROUND.
THAT YOU HAVEN'T COME TO WITH A QUARTER ACRE PUD OR EVEN A HALF ACRE PUD. DON'T DO THAT.
>> AS YOU VALUE AND THE BEAUTY OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
BUT IF YOU COULD FIND A WAY TO MAKE YOUR ENTRY OFF OF NORTH PEYTONVILLE, INSTEAD OF COMING THROUGH CROSS TIMBER HILLS, MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON WOOD CREEK AND WOODBROOK LANE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
OTHER QUESTION I'VE GOT IS LIKE, SAY ROT 9.
THAT'S ADJACENT TO PROPERTY IN CROSS TIMBER HILLS.
CURRENTLY, THE SETBACK ON AN ACRE ON THE FRONT IS 40 FEET, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WELL, THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE STREET COMPARED TO WHAT WE MOST OF US HAVE IN CROSS TIMBER HILLS.
>> IN FRONT OR BACK? FRONT, I I THINK IT IS 40 FEET.
>> YOU TALK BACK YARD OR FRONT YARD?
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE BACKING UP TO THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE.
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DISTANCE RIGHT THERE. WHICH WOULD BE THE BACK YARD.
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>> THAT'S STRUCTURE, NOT FLATWORK OR?
>> THAT IS STRUCTURE, CORRECT? I THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT BEFORE, JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD.
I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVEN'T LAID OUT THE BUILDING PAD YET.
WE REALLY GOT TO GET THE TREES ON THERE, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME OTHER STUFF BECAUSE I WOULD WANT TO, AND I HAVE BEFORE, BUILD SHAPED A LOT AROUND CERTAIN TREES.
I JUST DON'T KNOW YET ON THAT.
BUT WE CAN'T BUILD IT ANY CLOSER, THAT'S FOR SURE.
>> OKAY. WELL, I'D REALLY LIKE YOU TO CONNECT THAT ROAD TO PEYTONVILLE AND NOT TO WOOD CREEK.
I DO HAVE CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE BACKED UP TO HIGGINS CREEK, AS YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE WATER LOAD ON HIGGINS CREEK.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING [INAUDIBLE] INSTEAD OF TRYING TO CUT THEM UP IN THIS SMALL LITTLE PIECE OF.
>> YOU GUYS SAID, IT'LL BE A WIN WIN SCENARIO?
>> NO. I SAID WE WANT IT TO BE A WIN WIN SCENARIO [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M [INAUDIBLE] OF HIDDEN GLEN AND WOOD CREEK.
I CALLED YOU GUYS, NEVER GOT A RETURN PHONE CALL.
>> I AM THE EASEMENT OFF OF WOOD CREEK. THAT IS.
BUT ANYWAY, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE COMPLETE NIGHTMARE IF YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO COME IN THAT WAY.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO DO THE SITE PLAN OFF OF PEYTONVILLE ONLY?
I JUST DON'T THINK ENVIRONMENTALLY, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CROSS THIS GREEN SPACE RIGHT HERE.
THERE'S NO PLACE DOWN HERE, EITHER.
I WAS LOOKING AT MY ENGINEER, STEVE HOMER, WHO'S LOCAL.
HE'S AN EX CITY OF GRAPEVINE, GUY DOES A LOT OF STUFF AND FLOWER MOUNT.
HE'S LIKE, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED HIM.
BECAUSE I LOOKED AT IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I WAS LOOKING AT THIS, I WAS LISTENING TO THESE GUYS, AND I'M BALANCING WITH,.
>> YOU NEED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF LOTS. I UNDERSTAND.
NOW, WHO KNOWS? WE GET IN WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, PUT A BRIDGE OVER THIS OR DO WHATEVER.
BUT IT'LL DISTURB, AND THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD DISTANCE FROM HERE TO THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT BEING A GREEN SPACE.
THAT'S JUST GOING TO CREATE MORE TRAFFIC.
>> PEOPLE GOING DOWN, IF YOU HAVE A PARK THERE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A JUNGLE GYM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CLEAN IT UP AND CREATE A WALKING PATH.
I GUESS THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE GOING DOWN THERE, BUT IT'S NOT A PARK, AND IT'S NOT A MAN-MADE POND.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IF I'M LIVING IN ONE OF YOUR 16 LOTS, AND I'M PAYING HOA DUES, I DON'T WANT MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS COMING OVER TO MY PARK.
I'M PAYING FOR IT. WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, NO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS GREEN SPACE.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED COMMON AREA.
>> I'M NOT ADVERTISING IT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THAT YOU SAVE A POND, AND THAT'S WAY YOU SAVE THIS FENCES FEEL. IT'S DESIGNATED.
>> THIS OBVIOUSLY A CHAIN LINK FENCE.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME DOWN.
>> WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO THERE?
>> WELL, WE CAN REPLACE IT LIKE WE SHOWED I THINK YOU WERE HERE, YOU SEE THE FENCING BEFORE.
BUT IF YOU'RE DOWN HERE, I THINK THERE'S CERTAIN SCREENING.
I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT RETURNING YOUR CALL.
>> I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT HAPPENED, BUT THE MOST AFFECTED WOULD BE THESE TWO AND THIS ONE.
I'M JUST WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY AND SAY, HEY, HOW DO YOU WANT THIS SCREEN? WHAT DO YOU WANT? I CAN DO ANYTHING.
I LIKE PUTTING UP LANDSCAPE SCREENING WHERE I CAN, CERTAIN TREES, SHRUBS, BUSHES, THAT KIND OF THING.
IF YOU WANT A FENCE AND YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE WHAT I JUST SHOWED, I'M HAPPY TO PUT THAT UP.
IF YOU WANT MORE OF A ROT IRON, HOLD STUFF BACK
>> [INAUDIBLE] SITE PLAN FROM ROT 16.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO FACE THIS WAY.
IF IT'S THROUGH STORY, I MIGHT WANT TO TALK HIM. YOU NEVER KNOW.
>> WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS TO PUT THAT FENCE THAT I'VE SHOWED IN THE OTHER SLIDE DOWN.
LIKE, ON THESE CROSS STREETS UP TO HERE, DON'T HAVE TO, AND THEN LINE IT, SCREEN IT WITH LANDSCAPING ON EITHER SIDE.
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AGAIN, THOSE REALLY KIND OF A NEIGHBORHOOD DECISION THAT WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS.WHAT DO YOU LIKE? WHAT WOULD YOU WANT? WHAT DO YOU PREFER? IF APPROVED WE WOULD TALK ABOUT ANY OF THIS AND THEN THIS AND THEN HERE WITH THESE NEIGHBORS. WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE.
>> THAT COULD BE ALL TALKED ABOUT AT A LATER DATE.
I PERSONALLY JUST WANTED TO COME IN AND OUT OF PAINT MILL.
>> ANY LAST QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A COMMENT FORM FROM SOMEONE SENT VIA E MAIL.
I'LL JUST READ OFF SOME OF THESE POINTS PROBABLY BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT THERE IS A QUESTION HE DOES HAVE FOR YOU GUYS.
HE SAYS HE HAS OWNED HIS LOT FOR 40 YEARS AND LIVED IN HIS HOUSE FOR 38.
CTH, CROSS TIMBER HILLS HAS HAD MAJOR DRAINAGE ISSUES SINCE THE BEGINNING.
DAVID MCMAHON DEVELOPS CTH, AND IN MANY PEOPLE'S OPINION, THE ENGINEERING DRAINAGE PLAN IS NOT SUFFICIENT, AS WELL AS OTHER ENGINEERING ISSUES.
THE CITY HAS JUST SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO REDO WESTBROOK LANE OR WOODBROOK LANE, HEAVY CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL DAMAGE THE NEWLY PAVED ROAD.
RESIDENTS WALK THE STREETS AND SMALL CHILDREN RIDE THEIR BIKES BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS AS WELL AS NO STREET LIGHTS.
WITH THE POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, THIS CREATES A SAFETY HAZARD AS WELL AS POTENTIAL LIABILITY ISSUES FOR THE CITY AND OTHERS.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD A CUT THROUGH BE ALLOWED.
THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE AND THE NEW ENTRANCE MUST BE LOCATED ON ARTS LAND OFF OF PEYTONVILLE ROAD IN ORDER TO AVOID THESE ISSUES.
FYI WATER FLOWS DOWN THE SLOPE AT THE BACK OF MY PROPERTY AT APPROXIMATELY FIVE CUBIC FEET PER SECOND.
I'M UNABLE TO ATTEND THE SPIN MEETING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE POINTS ARE BROUGHT UP.
HIS QUESTION IS, DO YOU GUYS OR DOES HE SPECIFICALLY PLAN TO KEEP HIS HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY?
>> NO. ARTS HOUSE WILL BE REMOVED.
ALL THE STRUCTURES THAT WERE THERE WILL BE REMOVED.
IT'S NOT IN A CONDITION THAT IT'S SAVABLE.
>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, BRUCE.
WHO HERE IS AFFECTED BY THE FLOODING? >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> WHO HERE IS AFFECTED BY THE FLOODING?
>> WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS CROSS TIMBER IS AFFECTED BY THE FLOODING?
ONE. ALL OF YOU. >> [INAUDIBLE]
>> IS THAT PART OF CROSS TIMBER NEIGHBORHOOD, LAKEVIEW?
JEN, BESIDES YOURS, IS THERE OTHER NEIGHBORS?
>> YES. ALL OF [INAUDIBLE].>> EVERYBODY ON THE WEST SIDE OF [INAUDIBLE].
>> THIS IS ALL THE VIDEO. THEN DOWN HERE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THEN IF YOU LOOK AT
>> THE VIDEOS THAT I SENT YOU TODAY WERE HERE, AND THEN A LOT OF IT WAS COMING THROUGH THESE 4, 1, I CAN TELL THESE HOUSES RIGHT AROUND HERE.
BUT IT IS, IT ALL CONTRIBUTES AND GOES DOWN
>> I HAD SOME LAST MINUTE OBSERVATIONS HERE.
ONLY BECAUSE I'VE LIVED THERE SO LONG THAT I KNEW MR. JAMES.
THERE'S A BURN THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE THERE, ISN'T IT?
>> ON THE RIGHT SIDE. OVER HERE?
>> ON PEYTONVILLE. WHAT IS THAT? WHAT'S THAT DO? IS THAT PEYTONVILLE AVENUE?
>> YEAH, THAT'S JUST PEYTONVILLE.
>> WELL, ON ARTS PROPERTY, AT ONE TIME, THE CITY TRIED TO MOVE THE WATER FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF PEYTONVILLE ONTO ARTS PROPERTY.
HE USED HIS LITTLE BULLDOZER, AND HE BLOCKED THE CITY FROM DOING THAT.
WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THAT WATER WOULD HAVE MADE IT WORSE.
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I'VE HEARD ABOUT MY NEIGHBORS HAVING WATER PROBLEMS AND I HAVE SOME WITH THE NEIGHBOR, BUT IT'S IT'S NOTHING LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.WHAT I'M HEARING AND THIS IS A CITY PROBLEM.
THIS IS NOT THIS DEVELOPER'S PROBLEM AT ALL OR ANY DEVELOPER'S PROBLEM.
THIS IS THE CITY NOT DOING ITS JOB FOR WATER MITIGATION WHEN THEY DID THE ORIGINAL PLOT.
THEY PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY, AND YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SAND PONDS RUNNING SEWER DRAINS, FOUR FEET WIDE SIX FEET DEEP, FOR THE WAY THEY WORK, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS TO GO THROUGH THERE AND MOVE THAT WATER OUT OF THERE.
THOSE STREAMS HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER.
NOW, THE OTHER OBSERVATION I HAVE HERE, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THESE BUILDING PROJECTS FOR THE 40 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE WORKING WITH ART ACTUALLY TO MAKE STOP LIKE WHAT IT IS.
I'VE NEVER HAD A DEVELOPER COME IN WITH ONE ACRE LESS RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND IF THESE GUYS DON'T DO IT.
SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO WANT TO DO IT WITH 4 LOT OF HOUSES PER ACRE.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. I WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE I'M A TERRIBLE PERSON [LAUGHTER]
>> BUT I WANT THE MONEY. THAT'S WHAT MOTIVATES ALL OF US.
THE MONEY TO NOT FIX THAT DRAINAGE AND THE MOTIVATION TO DO THAT.
CONSIDER YOUR ALTERNATIVES TO THIS ONE, IT COULD BE FOUR ROTS, FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, OR IT COULD BE MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE THE CITY ZONING ALLOWS FOR 12 UNITS PER ACRE FOR APARTMENT BUILD.
[OVERLAPPING] I'M TALKING TO MY NEIGHBORS.
[LAUGHTER] BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE ALL CONCERNED, AND I'VE LIVED THERE FOR A LONG TIME BEEN ACTIVE IN THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, AND A LOT OF US BEEN HERE FROM THE BEGINNING, AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT.
YOU'RE TAKING A LOT OF FLACK ABOUT WATER, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SCARE YOU AWAY.
>> NO. WE'RE GREAT BIG BOYS, OUR GOAL IS TO WORK WITH THE CITY.
WHAT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY? WHAT HAVE THEY CONTRIBUTED? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE AND THEN HOW DO WE MITIGATE IT? IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE BEEN DEALING WITH WATER PROBLEMS FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
>> WELL, AND IT'S NOT GOING AWAY EITHER.
>> WHETHER THIS GETS DEVELOPED OR NOT, IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.
>> WE'RE NOT ARGUING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ALSO ARE NOT GOING SAY, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE.
>> PERHAPS WE ALL GET TOGETHER AND ALONG WITH YOU GUYS AND GET THE CITY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
[INAUDIBLE] I THINK IF THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, THEN WE'RE ALL [INAUDIBLE] PROBLEM
NEITHER ONE OF US TAKE THIS PERSONALLY.
WE WOULD, TOO. WE'VE LIVED HERE.
IF SOMEBODY WAS COMING IN DEVELOPING NEXT TO US, I DON'T THINK IT'S UNNATURAL FOR ANY OF THIS TO OCCUR.
WE'RE BALANCING THIS NOT WITH THE MONEY WE WANT TO MAKE, BUT HOW MUCH THE LAND APPRAISES FOR AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
WE'RE JUST BALANCING THAT SIDE OF IT.
I'D LOVE TO JUST REPLACE ARTS HOUSE AND KEEP IT THE WAY THAT IT IS AS A DEVELOPER.
BUT, IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE TO DO THAT FOR ANYONE. GO AHEAD.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> AS LONG AS THEY LAST, UNFORTUNATELY.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> THIS IS THE ONLY MEETING FORWARD, SO IT HAS TO GO TONIGHT OR JUST MOVES ON.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US?
>> WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE THIRD ONE. THANK YOU GUYS.
[4. SPIN2025-09 – An applicant is proposing a conversion of an existing vacant home at 1170 N. White Chapel Blvd. to a small business, to be known as Southlake Sno, that will teach entrepreneurship and raise money for local charities, while selling sno-cones in the summer and hot chocolate during the winter within SPIN Neighborhood #7.]
FOR OUR THIRD ITEM, JOHN CORNELSEN IS HERE TO PRESENT SPIN 2025-09.AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A CONVERSION OF AN EXISTING VACANT HOME AT 1170 NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD TO A SMALL BUSINESS.
TO BE KNOWN AS SOUTHLAKE SNOW, THAT WILL TEACH ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND RAISE MONEY FOR LOCAL CHARITIES WHILE SELLING SNOW CONE IN THE SUMMER AND HOT CHOCOLATE DURING THE WINTER WITHIN SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 7.
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HEY, GUYS.CAN YOU TAKE THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE FOR US? NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, RYAN. GOOD EVENING.
I'M JOHN CORNELSEN, THE FOUNDER OF EVOLVING TEXAS, WE'RE A CIVIL ENGINEERING AND LAND PLANNING FIRM IN FORT WORTH.
I'M HERE AS A CONSULTANT, WORKING WITH THE ALLEN FAMILY, BUT ALSO AS A FRIEND, I'VE KNOWN MITCHELL FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
>> I'M MITCH ALLEN. I LIVE AT 1150 WHITE CHAPEL JUST SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY.
THEN SOUTHLAKE FOR 17 18 YEARS.
GOT THREE KINDER-GRADS AND LIFELONG ENTREPRENEUR, I'VE GOT SEVERAL BUSINESSES HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.
>> THIS IS THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS AT THE CORNER OF WHITE CHAPEL AND HIGHLAND.
YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE IMAGE.
THE SMALL HOME WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS WHERE THE ARROW IS POINTING TO THIS AS SNO.
>> RICAT, BEEN IN SOUTHLAKE SINCE 2008 GOT THREE KINDER-GAD.
I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES, INCLUDING HIRESANTA, WE STAFF SANTA BUSINESSES.
THEN REALLY, INTERNET MARKETING IS WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT ENTREPRENEURSHIP, SPOKEN TO LOCAL CHAMBER, ROTARY CLUBS, AS WELL AS MANY ENTREPRENEURIAL ORGANIZATIONS, REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT ENTREPRENEURSHIP, AS WELL AS INVOLVED HEAVILY WITH THE BAND, SOCCER TEAM, SWIM, ETC WITH MY KIDS.
>> WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND MITCHELL APPROACHED ME ABOUT IT, MY INCLINATION AS A CONSULTANT WAS, THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK AS A TRADITIONAL ZONING PROJECT.
THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE DOING.
THE REASON WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS AND HOW WE CAN POSSIBLY WORK TOGETHER.
THIS IS A PRETTY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY, I THINK FOR A REALLY A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IN A VERY UNIQUE WAY TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND BE A COMMUNITY CENTRIC DEVELOPMENT.
JUST A FEW CHECKPOINTS HERE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY THE PROPERTY, YOU'VE NOTICED THERE WERE FIVE MOBILE HOMES ON THE PROPERTY WHEN MITCHELL BOUGHT IT.
THERE'S STILL ONE VACANT HOME THAT'S THERE.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS 100% TREE PRESERVATION.
ALL THOSE TREES HAVE BEEN CLEANED UP.
WE'RE LOOKING AT REUSING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE.
THERE WOULD BE CRUSHED ROCK DRIVES, SOFT STRING LIGHTING UNDER THE TREES, AND JUST IMAGINE A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING UNDER THE TREES WITH A WALK UP SNOW CONE STAND AT THE EXISTING HOME.
BASICALLY, A WINDOW WOULD BE CREATED PROBABLY IN THE END OF THAT HOME, AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK UP, ORDER YOUR SNOW CONE, GO BACK TO YOUR CAR, MAYBE GO SIT AT A PICNIC TABLE UNDER A STRING LIGHT, AND THEN GO HOME.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF AN IMAGE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE HOME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RENOVATING AND TURNING INTO THE SNOW CONE STAND.
YOU'LL SEE ON THE AMATEURS THIS REFERENCE TO COMMUNITY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING HERE IS NOT JUST SELLING SNOW CONES, BUT REALLY TEACHING ENTREPRENEURSHIP, WORKING WITH YOUTHS, WORKING WITH ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN SOUTHLAKE, DESIGNATING A PORTION OF EVERY SALE TO SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES, CAROL ISD, ETC.
AS I MENTIONED, REALLY THE VISION OF THIS CAME FROM MITCHELL'S SON NATHAN, WHO IS KINDERGARD, IS CURRENTLY AT COLORADO UNIVERSITY, AND WANTED TO COME BACK AND CREATE A LEARNING LAB FOR OTHER STUDENTS AT CAROL ISD TO REALLY BE HANDS ON, LEARN ABOUT ENTREPRENEURSHIP, LEARN ABOUT GIVING BACK, FIRST OF ALL, AND THEN ALSO REALLY BUILDING COMMUNITY AND CREATING A SAFE SPACE FOR KIDS TO BE AND TO HAVE SNOW CONE AFTER CLASS.
>> DURING THE SUMMER AND DURING THE WINTERTIME, AS MITCHELL MENTIONED, HE'S THE FOUNDER OF HIRESANTA.
HIRESANTA WAS ON A SHARK TANK, AND POSSIBLY HAVING IN THE WINTERTIME HOT CHOCOLATE, COCOA, SANTA THEMED CHEER DURING THE HOLIDAYS AND CREATE A REALLY SPECIAL SPOT FOR PEOPLE TO COME GATHER FOR, A TREAT DURING THE WINTER MONTH.
LOOKING AT NUMBER 3 HERE TALKS ABOUT TRAFFIC.
THE VISION IS WE WOULD UTILIZE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS.
THERE'S SOME TALK, WE MAY RELOCATE ONE OF THE DRIVEWAYS JUST TO MAKE TRAFFIC MOVEMENT MORE RESTRICTIVE,
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BUT IT WOULD BE ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.TRAFFIC WOULD PULL IN, PARK UNDER A TREE, GRAB THEIR SNOW CONE, AND THEN LEAVE.
>> ON TRAFFIC, THERE'S PROBABLY A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC.
THERE'S CURRENTLY A ENTRANCE ON HIGHLAND, AS WELL AS THEN ONE ON SOUTHLAKE ON WHITE CHAPEL.
WE'VE TALKED WITH P AND Z AND POTENTIALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE EXPAND ON HIGHLAND TO MINIMIZE THE TRAFFIC THAT'S THERE BECAUSE IF YOU LIVE, AND I KNOW, SEVERAL OF YOU LIVE IN THE AREA, THAT TRAFFIC AROUND WHITE CHAPEL CAN GET PRETTY BAD, PARTICULARLY DURING SCHOOL TIME.
>> REGION NUMBER 4, HOURS WOULD BE RESTRICTED.
THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A LATE NIGHT PLACE.
AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO FOCUSED ON CREATING A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE.
I'LL TALK ABOUT LANDSCAPE ENHANCEMENT FOR A MINUTE.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, AND, OF COURSE, YOU CAN SEE THE ALLEN RESIDENTS NEXT DOOR, FIRST OF ALL.
IT ACTUALLY HAS A PRETTY UNIQUE ABILITY.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S EXISTING TREES THAT ARE BEAUTIFUL, BUT ALSO TO ENHANCE THAT LANDSCAPING, NOT ONLY ALONG THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY LINES, BUT EVEN ALONG THE TARMAC BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SOME BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY THERE, I THINK TO REALLY DRESS THIS UP AND MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT THE ALLENS WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO FOR A LONG TIME.
AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE CONTINGENT APPROVAL THAT EVERY YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE TO RE CHECK IN WITH THE CITY, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LIVING UP TO OUR MISSION.
THIS IS A COMMUNITY FOCUS AND COMMUNITY SUPPORTED PLACE AND BUSINESS.
REALLY WANT TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK AND WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS IDEA, AND AS WE PREPARE TO GO FORWARD, THIS IS, I THINK TURNING INTO SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE HOPEFULLY, AND HOPEFULLY YOU SEE IT THAT WAY AS WELL. PLEASE.
>> THAT WAS A LITTLE TOO LONG AND IT'S ALMOST 98.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 19 YEARS I LIVE OFF ASCOT.
I ALSO SENT IN SOMETHING SO THEY CAN TAKE THAT OFF.
THE NAME IS MARK. I WASN'T SURE IF I'D MAKE IT HERE OR NOT.
I THOUGHT I MIGHT MISS THE MEETING CLEARLY NOT.
>> NUMBER 1, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FATALITIES WITH TEENAGERS IN THIS CITY.
I'VE BEEN TO THE FUNERALS. IT'S NOT GOOD.
THE IDEA OF ENCOURAGING HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TO WALK OR BIKE DOWN ANY MAJOR ROAD HAS NOT WENT WELL FOR THIS CITY.
I'M CONCERNED WITH THE SAFETY.
I HAVE TWO BOYS WHO ARE TEENAGE DRIVERS.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE LIKE WATCHING THEM PULL IN AND OUT OF YOUR PARTICULAR LOCATION.
IT'S JUST BEING RIGHT OFF OF THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
I'M CONCERNED THAT SOMEONE WILL GET WHACKED.
I KNOW THAT I WAS PLEASED THAT AT LEAST THERE'S AN IN ON HIGHLAND AND OUT ON WHITE CHAPEL.
IT SHOULD REALLY BE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT, NOT LIKE BOTH.
I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE A SAFETY CONCERN.
WE HAD A RITA'S WATER ICE THAT DIDN'T DO TOO WELL.
IT WAS ONLY AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF.
>> RITA'S WATER ICE. I WAS SELLING SNOW CONE IN.
IT DIDN'T LAST TOO WELL, AND IT WAS RIGHT AT THE OTHER END OF THE STREET SO BEAR THAT IN MIND.
BUT I GUESS I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HOW YOU SEE ENTREPRENEURSHIP.
ONE WORKED AT THE GROCERY STORE AND THE OTHER ONE WORKED AT A RESTAURANT.
MOST OF THE KIDS IN SOUTHLAKE ARE IN SO MANY ACTIVITIES. THEY REALLY DIDN'T.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR KIDS, BUT THEY DON'T GO AND GET SUMMER JOBS, BUT TO ME, THAT WOULD SATISFY THAT.
I JUST DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF A, A BUSINESS ON WHITE CHAPEL AND B, I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED WITH THE SAFETY ANGLE OF CARS PULLING OUT BECAUSE THE CARS GO FASTER AROUND THERE.
I LITERALLY WALKED DOWN THE STREET WALKING MY DOGS.
SAFETY, IS TOTALLY MY ISSUE AS WELL.
YOU SEE HOW FAST PEOPLE DRIVE DOWN WHITE CHAPEL, PROBABLY THROUGH ASKAR AS WELL.
BUT LIKE WHITE CHAPEL, I'M UPSET ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME.
I TOTALLY GET THAT. AS FAR AS ENTREPRENEURSHIP, I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ALL DAY. THAT'S MY PASSION.
I HOPE THAT I PRACTICE OPEN BOOK MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS REALLY A PARTICULAR WAY OF MANAGING BUSINESSES, ABOUT SHOWING PEOPLE WHAT SMALL BUSINESS IS ABOUT, AND WHETHER IT BE MY KIDS, MY FAMILY.
THAT'S MY NUMBER 1 PASSION IS ENTREPRENEURSHIP.
I HOPE THROUGH THIS AND I'VE SPOKEN TO ALL OF MY KIDS CLASSES.
WHETHER IT BE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, RERES.
I TALK ABOUT ENTREPRENEURSHIP ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
THIS IS A REAL PASSION, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT CHILDREN WOULD GRAVITATE TO THAT, OUR CHILDREN AND THEN LEARN FROM THAT, ABOUT HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS, ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS TO RUN A BUSINESS, YOU'RE A PHYSICIAN, I BELIEVE, OR MEDICAL A NURSE.
YOU KNOW THAT IT'S HARD TO RUN A BUSINESS AND SO I HOPE THAT THROUGH THIS, WE'RE ABLE TO TEACH THOSE SAME THINGS TO CHILDREN.
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MY CHILDREN WANT TO COME BACK AND WORK IN THIS BUSINESS SO I ALREADY HAVE A FEW EMPLOYEES.>> I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT, MITCHELL, BECAUSE MITCHELL, I'VE BEEN WITH HIM IN THIS ENTREPRENEURSHIP JOURNEY FOR A LONG TIME, 20 YEARS THROUGH ENTREPRENEURS ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS A GLOBAL ORGANIZATION.
WE'VE TRAVELED WITH THAT GROUP AND WORKED WITH THE ENTREPRENEURS AROUND THE WORLD.
BUT I REMEMBER WE WERE TOGETHER ON A TRIP, AND HE COMES AND SHOWS ME A PICTURE OF I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SHOULD SAY THAT, BUT YOU DRESSED UP AS SANTA CLAUS.
WHEN HE FIRST WAS STARTING THAT BUSINESS AND TO SEE THE PASSION THAT HE HAS NOT FOR CHILDREN.
HE ACTUALLY HAS BOTH AND IT'S NOT JUST ENTREPRENEURSHIP, BUT WORKING WITH KIDS AND HOW TO MAKE THEIR EYES LIGHT UP WITH WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
I'VE WATCHED HIM DO THAT MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT REALLY ATTRACTED ME TO THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE HE SAID, I WANT YOU TO GO TO A ZONING CASE IN SOUTHLAKE.
I'M LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S HARD SOMETIMES TO GET A PROJECT APPROVE.
BUT I THINK HONESTLY, THE MORE WE TALKED ABOUT IT, HE'S NOT MAKING THIS UP.
THIS IS WHO HE IS AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITY.
>> ARE WE BUSINESSES OR CHARITIES.
I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY FROM MR. WOODS FAMILY.
I THINK YOU'VE PROBABLY DRIVEN BY IT.
I THINK IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON IT ALREADY.
I DIDN'T WANT FOUR HOUSES BUILT NEXT TO ME WE'VE ALL BEEN HERE ALL EVENING TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTHLAKE.
THIS WAS A GOOD SOLUTION IN MY MIND THAT I CAN HAVE MY CAKE AND HOPEFULLY EAT IT TOO. LIKE IT.
>> BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHARITY.
WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THERE IS A CHARITABLE COMPONENT THAT YOU WANT TO TALK TO.
>> I THINK THAT LIKE GIVING BACK ALL MY BUSINESSES GIVE BACK, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
I ALREADY DONATE TO ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'M IN.
I THINK A GREAT PORTION OF THIS WOULD BE HAVING PEOPLE DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DONATE MONEY TO.
EVERY PURCHASE GOES TO SOME CHARITY, WHETHER IT BE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IT BE THE BAND OR THE SWIM PROGRAM.
THAT WOULD BE MY CHOICES OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOUR CHILDREN ARE INVOLVED IN.
THEY'RE ABLE TO DECIDE WHERE A PORTION OF IT GOES TO.
BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE. IT'S GOT TO MAKE MONEY.
>> I'M A 20 PLUS YEAR RESIDENT, AS WELL.
WE LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER.
I LIVED OVER HERE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN MORE.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE CORNER THERE, ARE YOU?
>> TOUCHING ON WHAT MARK SAID, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
THE SPEED LIMIT MAYBE 35, BUT THEY GO LIKE 70, 50, 80 ALL NIGHT LONG.
IT'S LIKE A RACEWAY. I'VE SEEN MY NEIGHBORS CHILDREN TRY TO NAVIGATE THAT ROUNDABOUT, AND THEY'RE NOT LITTLE BY ANY MEANS.
I'VE GOT THREE. I'VE GOT A KINDERGARTEN, SEVEN GRAD, 18 GRAD, AND NOW I'VE GOT A 2040, 2039, AND A GET IN 2034 IN MY HOUSE.
MY GRANDDAUGHTERS HAVE COME TO IT WITH ME.
OBVIOUSLY, SAFETY IS A HUGE CONCERN FOR ME.
ONE OF MY HUGE CONCERNS OUTSIDE OF THE SAFETY ABOUT IT WITH SAFETY AND THE HIGH SCHOOL THERE. YOU LIVING THERE.
I'M SURE THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
ONE OF THE BIG PET PEEVES, AND THEN MARK CAN ATTEST TO IT, TOO, IS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE CROSSWALKS SIGNS.
I HAVE 100 PROBABLY THOUSANDS.
I HAVE A SURVEILLANCE CAMERA, AND IT CATCHES PART OF IT CATCHES PART OF THE CROSSWALK. THOSE KIDS GET WHACKED.
ALMOST GET WHACKED LIKE THREE AND FOUR TIMES A DAY.
IN THE EVENING IN THE AFTERNOON.
I'VE SHOWN THEM TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.
THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT. THE CONCERN OF DRAWING MORE KIDS AND THEN HAVING MORE KIDS WANTING TO GO UP AND DOWN WHITE CHAPEL IS A HUGE CONCERN, ESPECIALLY WHAT HAPPENED THAT GOT HIT ON DAVIS.
I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR ON THE EDGE OF DAVIS ON THE SIDEWALK.
SHE WAS MINDING HER OWN BUSINESS ON THE SIDEWALK AND GOT AND THE OTHER ISSUE WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVING HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, THEIR DRIVING SKILLS, NOT NECESSARILY ARE THE BEST.
THEY'RE ALL TOO OFTEN DISTRACTED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY AND THEN YOU LIVING THERE, I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF ALL THE CRASHES WE'VE HAD, IN AND AROUND THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, MUCH LESS AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT.
>> LIVING THERE, TOO, YOU'RE FAMILIAR THAT VEHICLES UP AND DOWN WHITE CHAPEL FAILED TO ABIDE BY OUR TRAFFIC CODES AND ALL THE OTHER FUN STUFF AND THE LAWS.
THEN ALSO UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CITY IS FAILING OUR CHILDREN BY NOT ENFORCING THOSE LAWS.
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IT'S IT'S BEEN ONE OF MY PET PEEVES WITH THE CITY.I GOT THEM TO EXTEND THE CROSSWALK TIME ON THE THING.
I GOT THEM BEFOREHAND TO PUT THE BLINKY SIGN IN.
I GOT THEM TO REPAINT THE CROSSWALK BECAUSE SEEING THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT , IT'S WORSE NOW.
I CAN'T SHOW ANYBODY THE VIDEOS BECAUSE I HAD TO PUT IT ON MUTE BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAY BECAUSE OF WHAT I SEE.
BUT WHEN I TRY TO VIDEOTAPE IT OFF THE SURVEILLANCE THING, OTHERWISE, I'D BE SETTING OUT THERE, BUDDY.
THERE'S ALSO BEEN A CONCERN TO OUTSIDE OF THE SAFETY IS HOPEFULLY, YOU'RE NOT IMPACTED.
BUT WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH STUDENTS BREAKING INTO THE HOMES CARROLL STUDENTS, BREAKING INTO HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAD A STUDENT THAT WAS APRIL LAST YEAR, BROKE IN, DAMAGED THE PERSON'S PROPERTY, AND ON VIDEO CAMERA, I SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO COME BACK AND STEAL THE STUFF AND SELL THE STUFF.
THE HOMEOWNERS [LAUGHTER] I SEE YOU ON THE VIDEO, AND THEY CALLED THE POLICE AND I'VE GOT THE VIDEO, THE NEIGHBORS SENT IT TO ME.
THE COPS ARE IN THERE WITH THEIR GUNS, GOING THROUGH THE HOUSE, SWEEPING FOR THE KIDS.
THE KIDS HAD ESCAPED BY THAT POINT, BUT THEY DAMAGED THE PROPERTY, GETTING INTO IT.
THAT WAS THE SECOND BREAK IN IN A MONTH IN PROBABLY ABOUT 30 DAYS, 45 DAYS.
THEN JUST THIS APRIL, WE HAD ANOTHER STUDENT FROM CARROLL HIGH SCHOOL COME OVER AND PUT DRUGS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
HE CAME AND SLID DRUGS UNDER MY NEIGHBOR SPENCE TO STASH IT.
APPARENTLY, CARROLL HIGH SCHOOL, IF YOU'VE GOT KINDERGARTENS, DIDN'T KNOW IT WASN'T AWARE BECAUSE I HAVE LITTLE NOW PRE-K P-K3, P-K4, AND A FOURTH GRADER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN CARROLL HIGH OTHER THAN TRAFFIC.
THEY'RE RANDOM. IT'S A COUPLE OF TIMES A MONTH.
THE KID IN THE MORNING CAME AND STASHED THE DRUGS, CAME BACK FOR LUNCH, DID THE DRUGS.
THEN THE COPS EXCUSE WHEN THE NEIGHBOR WAS LIKE, I WANT TO PRESS CHARGES, THE COP WAS LIKE, WHAT? YOU DON'T WANT HIM TO GET INTO COLLEGE? THE KIDS THAT BROKE IN THE HOUSE, NOTHING HAPPENED TO THEM.
THEY JUST DID A CALL FOR SERVICE.
THE REPORT WHERE THE STUDENT THEY DID DRUGS, AND THE DRUGS REPLACED, LET'S SAY THIS IS MY PROPERTY, RIGHT THERE, THAT MY GRANDKIDS COULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT, AND IT PISS ME OFF.
WE'VE GOT OUR YOUTH, BESIDES THE SAFETY AND THE TRAFFIC.
WE'VE GOT THE KIDS THAT ARE OUT OF CONTROL. I'VE GOT A VIDEO OF IT.
AT 9:10 PM, THEY WERE SCREAMING AND I WAS I WENT OUTSIDE TO FIND OUT WHAT THE SCREAM WAS, KIDS GOT OUT OF A BMW WERE BEATING THE CRAP OUT OF EACH OTHER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
THE KID'S FACE WAS ALL JACKED UP.
HE HAD A SHIRT OFF BECAUSE THE KID WAS BEATING HIM, AND IT'S ALL ON VIDEO, AND I SHOWED IT THAT CO CALLED COPS, COPS CAME, AND THE PARENTS DON'T WANT TO PRES CHARGES.
I'M LIKE, HE BEAT THE LIVING COP, KID RIGHT THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
AS A RESIDENT, THAT SEES [LAUGHTER] IT STUFF, IT'S A CONCERN THAT A DRAW FOR MORE KIDS IS JUST GOING TO KINDERGARTEN.
YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO GO TO YATES, THAT PLACE.
IT'S BEEN SOLD, A FRIEND OF OURS OWNS IT.
BUT PEOPLE COME AND GET PEOPLE JUST DISREGARD PEOPLE PULLING IN AND OUT.
IT'S A HOT MESS, AND IT BECOMES A HANGOUT SPOT.
OBVIOUSLY, DON'T WANT A HANG OUT SPOT.
THEN LIVING RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER, ALSO, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO PUT A BUSINESS NEAR OUR HOMES.
I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT WE DON'T WANT.
AS SOON AS WE OPEN THE DOOR FOR YOU, I MIGHT AS LEVEL MY HOUSE AND TURN INTO A CHICK FLEET EXPRESS BECAUSE I'D PROBABLY GET A LOT LICENSE FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.
IT'S JUST THAT'S. AT ONE POINT, I OFFERED MY HOUSE TO THE CARROLL HIGH SCHOOL FOR EXTRA PARKING BECAUSE THEY'RE IN OUR YARD AND WAY ANYWAY.
AS HOMEOWNERS WHO'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT, WE'VE TRIED TO WORK THROUGH THE CITY.
WE'VE TRIED TO WORK FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE'VE TRIED. THEY'RE LIKE, SINCE THE CITY PROBABLY DOESN'T LIKE YOU. I'LL DO WITH IT.
I'M LIKE, HOW FUN. THEY JUST IGNORED HIM, LIKE, THEY IGNORED ME.
IF SITTING HERE LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE ZONING AND THE FLOOD AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, WHEN WE BRING OUR ISSUES TO THE CITY, THERE'S A LOT OF BLIND EYES AND DEAF EARS IT'S TURNING ON.
NOBODY CARES, SO WE CAN'T ELEVATE THAT.
I TOLD THE CITY, I SEND THE CITY PICTURES SO THE KIDS ALMOST GETTING A WALK WHACKED IN THE CROSSWALK.
I LITERALLY, ONE DAY, THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER SITTING THERE AT THE HEADLIGHT, A KID WAS COMING ACROSS.
SOMEBODY TURNED IT I LITERALLY WENT IN AND USED PHOTOSHOP NOT PHOTOSHOP, BUT LIKE ARROWS, I'M LIKE, POLICE OFFICER LABELED IT PUT A ARROW.
STUDENT, PUT A LABEL, CROSSWALK.
[02:05:01]
UNTIL WE CAN GET THOSE THINGS UNDER CONTROL, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SEE YOU'RE DRAWING THERE.YOUR PICNIC TABLES RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROAD.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A SLAB BEHIND IT.
THERE'S JUST A ARTIST RENDERING.
THERE'S ACTUALLY ALREADY A SLAB [OVERLAPPING] BEHIND IT, WHERE ALL OF THAT WOULD BE.
>> BUT IT WOULD BE THOUGHT OF KIDS BEING THAT CLOSE TO THE ROAD.
I DON'T LET MY GRANDDAUGHTERS PLAY IN MY FRONT YARD, GO IN AND OUT TO THE CAR.
THEY PLAYED IN THE DRIVEWAY A FEW TIMES, BUT IT SCARES THE DAYLIGHTS OUT OF ME, SO I CAN'T LET THEM PLAY IN THE FRONT YARD.
LIVING CLOSE BY THIS, WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT A, THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES.
B, HAVE ANY MORE MISCHIEF BECAUSE WE HAVE LIKE, I'VE HAD ALCOHOL BOTTLES LEFT IN, THEY DUMPED IT AND WENT TO SCHOOL.
THE STUFF THAT IS YEAH, IT'S BAD.
NOBODY KNOWS THIS STUFF, BUT I'M LIKE, I VIDEOED IT, DOCUMENTED, SENT IT TO THE CITY, SENT IT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SENT COMMUNITY EMAILS TO THE POLICE, THE CITY MANAGEMENT, AND CITY COUNCIL, AND NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING.
THEY'LL SEND AN OFFICER TO DRIVE BY AND WATCH IT HAPPEN.
I HAVE DEPICTED IN THAT PHOTO WHERE THE POLICE OFFICERS SITTING THERE AT THE HEAD OF THE LIGHT, KIDDOS WALKING THROUGH IT, AND CARS ARE RUNNING THROUGH THE LIGHT, AND NOBODY'S GETTING PULLED OVER, NOBODY'S GETTING DANGED.
IT'S A VICIOUS CYCLE RIGHT NOW.
WITH SAFETY AND ALL THAT STUFF, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A CONCERN.
THEN I APPRECIATE IT'S NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU, TOO, I CALLED CALI TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
THEY WEREN'T AWARE THAT THE PLAN FOR THIS.
I WAS LIKE, ARE YOU AWARE THIS IS GOING ON? THEY'RE LIKE, NO.
I WAS LIKE, OF COURSE, I WAITED UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE TO CALL.
I APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT RIGHT THERE, I REALLY DON'T AGREE, DON'T APPROVE FOR THE SAFETY ASPECT AND ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS THAT ARE THERE.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. ONE QUICK QUESTION.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME.
>> DIANA. OKAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THOSE THINGS UP.
I THINK IT'S INTERESTING, FOR ME, EVEN IF YOU COMPARE THE TWO PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT, WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP ABOUT SAFETY SOUNDS VERY MUCH LIKE THE DRAINAGE ISSUE EARLIER, THIS PRE-EXISTING CONDITION.
I THINK ALSO, SIMILAR TO THAT DEVELOPMENT, THIS WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT ON BUT WE WILL TALK TO THE CITY.
THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE CAN DO AS PART OF THIS PROCESS THAT COULD INCREASE THE SAFETY.
THERE'S THINGS LIKE HOW WE HANDLE VISIBILITY, POTENTIALLY, SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE.
THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
IN FACT THE LIGHTING, BUT THAT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD ASK, I GUESS, ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES.
HAVE YOU DONE TRAFFIC STUDIES? SEE HOW MANY CARS ARE REALLY FLYING DOWN THAT ROAD AND THE SPEEDS? I BEGGED THEM TO DO THAT, AND THEN THEY PUT A TRAILER OUT DOWN THE ROAD WHERE EVERYBODY DOESN'T THEY PUT IT RIGHT THERE BY THE SECOND ENTRANCE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, DOWN PAST A TRAFFIC LIGHT.
DURING SCHOOL TIMES, IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE ARE GOING SO SLOW BECAUSE THEY'RE STOPPED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET IN THE SECOND ENTRANCE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.
IT GIVES A SKEWED PICTURE OF WHAT IT TRULY IS VERSUS VERSUS THE WAY OF MOUNT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> EXACTLY. RIGHT THERE, YOU'RE IMPACTED.
MY SMART BUT SELF WAS GOING TO COME IN HERE AND SAY, WHY DON'T YOU PUT IT IN YOUR FRONT YARD WELL, HIS NOW? [LAUGHTER] I LIKE SOMEWHERE LOCALLY.
BUT THEN THE OTHER CONCERN NOT THROWING ON WHAT YOU DO OR YOUR THING YOU DID ON SHARK TANK IS A CONCERN THAT THIS IS GOING TO TURN INTO GRAPEVINE CHRISTMAS WONDERLAND.
I WAS LIKE, GREAT. I'M LIKE, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE NEW SOUTHLAKE CHRISTMAS THING HERE VERSUS WHAT THEY HAVE IN GRAPEVINE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD DRAW EVEN MORE AND LITTLE ONES.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE LITTLE ONES I HAVE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE HANDS, THEY ARE COOL.
THEY'RE THERE. BEING IN THIS, I CAN'T CHASE THEM. TOO WELL.
BUT IT'S A CONCERN WHERE YOU WANT TO DRAW THE TEENS IN, BUT IT'S ALSO GO TO DRAW THE LITTLE ONES IN FROM TODDLERS, ALL THE WAY UP TO SOME OBNOXIOUS TEENAGERS AND SOME OF THEM ARE GOOD.
BUT IT IS A PERSISTENT PROBLEM HERE IN SOUTHLAKE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS ON DEAF EARS, AND THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF THE ISSUES AND PRETENDING IT DOESN'T EXIST.
MY THING WITH THEM IS IT'S NOT.
IF IT HAPPENS, IT'S WHEN IT HAPPENS.
I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE VIDEOS I HAVE, AND THEY'RE ATROCIOUS.
I SHOWED ONE OF THE CITY GUYS BECAUSE MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE GONE ON FIRE.
A LOT OF CITY PEOPLE HAVE COME BY, AND I'VE SHOWN THEM TO THEM.
THE GUY WAS JUST LIKE, YOU SENT THAT TO SOMEBODY AND THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
I'M LIKE, YEAH. THAT WAS A KID IN THE CROSSWALK.
I'M LIKE, YEAH, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU DIDN'T SEE BECAUSE THE SUV BLOCKED THE VIEW OF THEM.
BUT IT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST PASSIONS IS TRYING TO BE SAFETY.
[02:10:07]
SOONER OR LATER, I GUESS NEXT YEAR, MY GRANDDAUGHTER'S BE GOING TO DIS.I DON'T EVEN WANT HER TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET.
SHE'S GOING TO BE A CAR DRIVER.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DRIVER BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST THE PROCESS.
DON'T TRUST THE STOP FLIGHTS, DON'T TRUST THE DRIVERS, DON'T TRUST ANY PART OF IT.
IT'S JUST SAD THAT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE YOU HEARD ECHOED PLY TONIGHT.
MOVING ALONG AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY'S CHILD TO LOSE THEIR LIFE, GET HURT, ANYTHING OVER ANY OF THIS.
WE'VE ASKED FOR SPEED UPS ON OUR ROAD BECAUSE OF CUT THROUGHS AND THE SPEEDING.
WE EVEN ASKED AFTER THE THING. WELL, I DID DIDN'T.
BUT ASKED FOR, LIKE THEM TO PUT A GATE ACROSS JUST TO STOP THE CHAOS OF ALL THE PEOPLE PARKING ON OUR ROAD AND ALL THE CHAOS THAT IT BRINGS WITH ALCOHOL AND THE DRUGS, PUT THINGS ELSE THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON AND THE PROPERTY DAMAGE FROM THE WHETHER IT'S THE PARENTS OR THE STUDENTS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT A ONE YEARS EASILY WITH THIS CITY.
I WAS MY COMPLIMENTS WERE EXTENDING THE CROSSWALK TIME, GET THE OLD CROSSWALK REPAINTED AND THE BLINKY LIGHTS IN, NOT A FAN OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, BUT I'VE DONE WHAT I CAN.
BUT IT'S JUST TO THE POINT WHERE I EVEN TRIED TO GET THEM TO PUT IMPACT RESISTANT WALLS IN WHEN THEY WIDE IN WHITE CHAPEL, AND THEY WOULDN'T DO IT.
I'M LIKE, ONLY MAKES SENSE SINCE CARS FLY THROUGH THE PRE-EXISTING WALLS WE HAVE BORE. IT'S UNSETTLING.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE RESIDENT AND NOT JUST SOMEBODY GOING, HEY, THAT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT [INAUDIBLE].
[LAUGHTER] BUT THEN ALSO ON THE ASPECT YOU SAYING, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE BACK, IS THAT GOING TO BE GIVE BACK LIKE, HE SAYS HE WANTS TO DONATE IT TO RONALD MCDONALD HOUSE AND I WANT TO SAY I WANT TO DONATE IT TO CARROLL, TO ROCA BAR OR WALNUT GROVE.
IS THAT WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO OR ARE YOU ALL GOING TO DO LIKE THE SOUTHLAKE WOMEN'S CLUB? THEY GET ALL THE MONEY TOGETHER, AND THEN THEY HAVE PEOPLE PUT IN APPLICATIONS AND SUBMIT FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. ACTUALLY, WE'RE PLANNING ON A TECH BACKGROUND WHERE YOU GET TO DECIDE WHERE IT GOES.
YOU WANTED TO GO TO DURHAM OR YOU WANTED TO GO TO THE SWIM TEAM OR THE BAND, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DONATE TO THE BAND, THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO DECIDE WHERE YOU WANT THAT MONEY TO GO TO. AT POINT OF SALE.
>> THE WAY TO PUT THIS LIGHTLY.
IS THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS I FOUND WHEN MY SON WAS PART OF THE SHOOTING TEAM? THERE WAS OF PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT TO DONATE TO IT.
OR LIKE LIKE THE CARROLL BARBECUE TEAM, THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU'RE OKAY.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK, BY THE WAY, AND MARK, AS WELL.
FOR SURE. THANK YOU BOTH FOR ALL YOUR WORDS.
I WOULD LIKE TO, HONESTLY, JUST, FIRST OF ALL, COMMIT ON OUR SIDE TO BE AN ADVOCATE WITH YOU FOR SAFETY FOR THESE KIDS.
THAT FOR SURE, WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THE KIDS.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AS WE GO ALONG, NOT JUST SEE YOU AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND MARK SAME TO YOU.
WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GO THROUGH THIS TOGETHER.
>> MIKE MILLS, 520 WEST HIGHLAND JUST DOWN THE STREET, A FEW HOUSES.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR TAKING DOWN MOHO.
PLACE LOOKS AMAZING, TREES YOU CUT UP. I THINK LOOK REALLY GOOD.
I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD USE.
I KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU COULD GO BACK WITH A HIGHER DENSITY USE THAN THIS.
THIS IS ABOUT AS LOW DENSITY AS I THINK YOU COULD EVER GET LOW IMPACT, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK AMAZING.
COMPARED TO WHAT IT DID BEFORE, WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH HOUSING HERE, I THINK THIS IS OUTSTANDING. THANKS.
>> NO, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA.
>> I MIGHT AS WELL SAY SOMETHING. YES, I AGREE THAT THIS IS A GREAT USE OF THE LAND.
IF YOU DIDN'T BUY POSSIBILITY OF THREE OTHER HOUSES BEING PLACED THERE, AND SHARE WITH DIANE'S SAFETY.
BUT I LIKE THAT YOU'VE GOT THE ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.
THEN THE HOURS OF OPERATION, THAT WAS A CONCERN, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU ADDRESSED THAT.
[02:15:02]
IS IT FIVE DAYS A WEEK, OR DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE?>> I HAVEN'T REALLY DECIDED ABOUT THAT. IT JUST SEEMS NATURAL.
PEOPLE ASKED ME, I'M DOING SNOW COMES, WELL, WHY AREN'T YOU DOING SOMETHING RELATED TO SANTA? WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON MAKING SOUTHLAKE THE CHRISTMAS CAPITAL OF THE WORLD FOR TEXAS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE.
THE THOUGHT WAS JUST I HAVE A PRETTY NATURAL TIE WITH CHRISTMAS AND SANTA.
HAVING SOME HOT COCOA FOR A PARTICULAR DAY OR TWO SEEMED TO MAKE SOME SENSE.
BUT THE MAIN THING IS SOUTHLAKE SNOW.
>> ANY LAST COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
HE SAYS HE DOES NOT SUPPORT THE BUSINESS SOUTHLAKE NAME.
LIVES ON ONE OH TWO ASCOT DRIVE.
DO NOT SUPPORT BUSINESS, SOUTHLAKE SNOW AT 11 70 NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD.
DO NOT SUPPORT A FOOD TRUCK TYPE BUSINESS IN A RESIDENTIAL MAJORITY HOUSES AND A CHURCH. I TELL YOU.
>> OKAY. YEAH, AND I WILL SAY, JUST IN RESPONSE TO THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH HIM AND SPEAK TO HIM FACE TO FACE.
BUT ALSO, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO BUILD A FOOD TRUCK TYPE BUSINESS.
WE WANT THIS TO BE REALLY CLASSY, HAVE SOUTHLAKE HARM BE A VERY DESIRABLE SPACE AND SOMETHING THAT IS.
ACTUALLY, I CAN'T CONTROL IT ANYMORE, I THINK. THERE WE GO.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE LITTLE HOUSE, I JUST THINK THERE'S REALLY SOME NEAT OPPORTUNITY HERE TO MAKE THIS THING A REALLY COOLING SPOT.
THAT'S THE GOAL IS WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS THING FIRST CLASS.
IT'LL LOOK NICE AND HOPEFULLY BE AN ASSET TO THE BEAUTY.
>> THANK YOU TO ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN SPIN.
REMEMBER SPIN REPRESENTS THE FIRST STEPS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
A SPIN MEETING REPORT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE AFTER THE MEETING TAKES PLACE.
WE WILL INCLUDE THE SUBMITTED SPIN QUESTIONS AND OR COMMENT FORMS IN THE MEETING REPORTS.
THESE REPORTS ARE GENERAL OBSERVATIONS OF THE FORM. THEY ARE NOT VERBATIM.
INTERESTED PARTIES ARE ENCOURAGED TO FOLLOW THE CASE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
MEETINGS ARE RECORDED AND WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE APPROXIMATELY 24 HOURS AFTER THE MEETING TAKES PLACE.
THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND]
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.