Sep 04, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission

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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT'S 6:39 P.M. HERE ON SEPTEMBER 4TH THURSDAY 2025.

WELCOME TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CITY HALL. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING.

MY NAME IS DAN KUBIAK, CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WHILE WE GOT STARTED, JUST A FEW MINUTES LATE, BUT WE'LL TRY TO KEEP PICK UP PACE HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.

I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, MAYBE I'LL SWITCH ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS TO CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS IN CASE SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THESE MEETINGS BEFORE.

[4. Chairman Comments.]

WHAT WE'LL HAVE IS A STAFF PRESENTATION. WE'LL ASK ANY QUESTIONS, THEN WE'LL HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION AND WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS.

THEN SOMETIMES WE MIGHT DELIBERATE RIGHT AFTER THAT.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU AND THE GALLERY KIND OF KNOW WHERE WHERE EVERYONE'S HEADS ARE ON SOME THINGS BEFORE WE OPEN UP THE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THINGS. AND THEN AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING WRAPS UP, WE'LL DELIBERATE SOME MORE AND TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A RECOMMENDATION TO PASS ON TO CITY COUNCIL. WHENEVER YOU COME UP IF YOU WANT TO COME UP TONIGHT AND COMMENT ON ANYTHING WHAT WE'LL DO IS JUST YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

PLEASE JUST ADDRESS ANY OF YOUR SENTIMENTS TO THIS BODY.

YOU GET UP TO 3 MINUTES, AND WE HAVE KIND OF A LITTLE LIGHT THAT RUNS HERE JUST TO BE COURTEOUS, COURTESY FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. WHO WANTS TO SPEAK AS WELL? YOU'LL SEE A KIND OF LITTLE FLASHING LIGHTS THERE THAT AFTER 2 MINUTES GO YELLOW, AND THEN A RED WILL START FLASHING.

SO JUST WE WE APPRECIATE IT. IF YOU CAN BE COURTEOUS, HAVE SOME COURTESY ON THAT.

USUALLY 3 MINUTES, YOU CAN KIND OF GET YOUR POINT ACROSS TO, TO THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF HOW YOU FEEL ON CERTAIN THINGS.

SO WE'LL WE'LL PROBABLY GO THROUGH THAT HERE SHORTLY.

BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO MAKE A JUST A QUICK NOTICE THAT I THINK WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS HERE TONIGHT FOR ITEMS NUMBER 8 AND 9 ON THE JOHNSON ROAD CASE.

SO WE'LL PROBABLY MOVE THAT ONE UP 1ST. WE'LL HEAR BOTH ITEMS AT THE SAME TIME.

AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK THROUGH ORDER DO ITEM 6 AND ITEM 10N, WHICH ARE FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD ITEMS THAT WE CAN HEAR AND THEN PROBABLY END ON ITEM 7.

SO JUST KIND OF A QUICK LAY OF THE LAND HERE IN TERMS OF THE ORDERING THAT WILL BE TAKING, TAKING EVERYTHING ON. SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS THIS EVENING.

NO COMMENTS THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO HOPEFULLY START ROLLING HERE. SO ITEM NUMBER 5 ON OUR AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE PLANNING AND

[5. Consider: Approving the minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held on August 21, 2025.]

WE'VE ALL BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THOSE AHEAD OF TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON THOSE BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 5 ON OUR AGENDA.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.

AND.

GO. MOTION PASSES 3 WITH 1 PERSON ABSTAINING.

AND WE HAVE 5 OF US UP HERE, SO I'M MISSING SOMETHING.

NOT LETTING LET'S JUST SAY IT'S LATE, BUT I'M.

I CAN COUNT TO 5. MAYBE WE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO TRY A REVOTE ON THAT OR.

YEAH, MAYBE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TRY A REVOTE.

I THINK WE'VE GOT THE MOTION AND THE SECOND. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN.

I THINK IT'S GINA. IS THAT YOUR. OH, NO. YOU ABSTAINED.

OKAY. PERFECT. 4-0 WITH 1 PERSON ABSTAINING. SORRY.

I PROMISE WE'LL GET ON A LITTLE BIT OF A ROLL HERE. I KNOW I'VE HEARD THERE MIGHT BE A FOOTBALL GAME TONIGHT THAT PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO GO SEE. ALTHOUGH SOME PEOPLE TOLD ME IN WORK SESSION THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO SEE IT. SO WE'LL EITHER WAY, WE'LL TRY TO HONOR THAT REQUEST TO GET SOME MOMENTUM GOING.

SO THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 5. THANK YOU EVERYONE ON THAT ONE.

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WE'LL HEAR BOTH THOSE ITEMS AT THE SAME TIME.

THE 1STR OF WHICH, ITEM 8 IS AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CONSOLIDATED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN RELATED TO THE 2530 JOHNSON ROAD CASE.

AND THE 2ND ONE IS THE ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN ASSOCIATED TO THE SAME CASE.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HEAR THE STAFF REPORT NOW.

EVERYONE WILL BE GOING OVER ITEMS EIGHT, NINE, JOHNSON ROAD. FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED

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NO. NO. BUT YOU WERE DOING A GOOD JOB ALRIGHT. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. SO HERE'S A VIEW FROM JOHNSON ROAD LOOKING NORTH AND THE VIEW FROM REMUDA COURT LOOKING TO THE WEST.

SO HERE IS THE PROPOSED LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT GOING FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

HERE IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO YOU CAN SEE 3 LOTS, ALL BETWEEN 25 AND 29,000FT².

HERE'S THE SITE DATA SUMMARY AND A COMPARISON TO THE JOHNSON PLACE SUBDIVISION.

HERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT ACCESS FROM REMUDA COURT TO THOSE 2 LOTS, LOTS 2 AND 3.

THE PROPOSED FENCING AND WALL PLANS. YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

TREE CONSERVATION PLAN FOR THE SITE. HERE IS THE PRELIMINARY UTILITY PLAN AND THE PROPOSED GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN.

WE HAD 24 OPPOSITION LETTERS SUBMITTED FOR THE PROJECT.

OF THOSE 12 FELL WITHIN 300FT. AND OF THOSE, 12 THAT WERE WITHIN 300, 9 FELL WITHIN THAT 200 FOOT.

AND SO THAT OPPOSITION PERCENTAGE WITHIN 200FT IS JUST UNDER 64%.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I GUESS AND AGAIN, IT'S A IT'S A LAND USE AMENDMENT REQUEST RELATED TO 3 LOTS BEING PROPOSED, I GUESS, AND KIND OF JUST CONFIRMING WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR WORK SESSION.

EVEN IF IT WERE LIKELY 2 LOTS PROPOSED, IT WOULD STILL BE LIKELY A LAND USE REQUEST CHANGE.

CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF THIS TIME? OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT IS THE AVERAGE SIZE OF THESE PROPERTIES NEXT TO THAT ARE THE MEDIUM DENSITY.

ARE THEY LIKE AROUND THE SAME SIZE. WHAT WAS THAT.

SORRY. FOR THE TRACKS JUST NORTH AND EAST OF IT.

ARE THOSE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL? ARE THOSE DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY WHAT THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE ON THOSE.

SO WE DO HAVE THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE HERE FOR THE JOHNSON PLACE SUBDIVISION.

SO JUST TO KIND OF ZOOM OUT. SO THIS IS JOHNSON PLACE ESTATES THESE PROPERTIES HERE.

AND THE AVERAGE SIZE FOR THOSE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER 20,000FT².

WHEREAS THE AVERAGE FOR THESE 3 THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST OVER 27,000.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. OKAY.

THANK YOU. WE'LL HOLLER OUT QUESTIONS IF WE HAVE THEM.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THIS ITEM THIS EVENING.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AS ALWAYS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

AND THEN HAPPY TO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION. YES.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS CURTIS YOUNG WITH THE SAGE GROUP, 1130 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

MY NAME IS TURNER PHILLIPS WITH WILLOW TREE CUSTOM HOMES, LOCATED AT 680 NORTH CAROLINA AVE.

AND WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT THIS PROJECT AND HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

BUT THEN WE'D BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

AS POINTED OUT, HERE'S THE SITE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 2 ACRES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A CREEK ON THE WEST SIDE THAT GOES THROUGH THERE. THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF US IS BASICALLY ON THE FLOODPLAIN CURRENTLY.

I SUPPOSE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IT COULD BE RECLAIMED, BUT THAT WOULD BE A THAT WOULD BE A TOUGH ONE.

IT IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY, BUT IT'S NEXT TO JOHNSON PLACE, WHICH IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

CURRENTLY IT'S UNZONED AS OF YET, IT'S STILL AG, AND WE ARE ASKING FOR AN RPD ZONING, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH JOHNSON PLACE ITS CLOSEST NEIGHBORS. HERE IS THE PROPERTY AGAIN.

AND JUST A FEW NOTES ON JOHNSON PLACE THAT ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION.

ALSO, THE THE 54 LOTS IN JOHNSON PLACE STARTING AT ABOUT 17,425FT².

THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS A LITTLE BIT OVER 20,000FT², BY MY COUNT.

WHEN WE WERE DOING I HAPPENED TO DESIGN JOHNSON PLACE YEARS AGO, AND SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH.

AND IN THIS AREA HERE REMOVED REMUDA COURT COMES UP HERE AND THE CUL DE SAC IS EXTENDED ALL THE WAY TO THE END BECAUSE THERE WAS A THOUGHT THAT THIS ROAD WOULD

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AT THE TIME, IT TURNED OUT THAT THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING, SO THAT COULDN'T HAPPEN TO THE DEVELOPER BACK THEN.

AND WE'RE TALKING 20 YEARS AGO. BUT CITY COUNCIL TOLD US THAT ASKED US TO EXTEND THE CUL DE SAC ALL THE WAY TO THE END AND HAVE A FULL 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY AGAINST THE NEXT PROPERTY IN CASE IT WANTED TO GO THROUGH IN THE FUTURE, AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE ON IN THE JOHNSON PLACE DEVELOPMENT KNEW THAT IT COULD GO ON IN THE FUTURE.

WE WERE ASKED TO PUT A SIGN AT THE END OF THAT THAT SAID FUTURE THROUGH STREET.

SO THIS IS THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE END OF REMUDA COURT NOW.

SO NOW THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN RELATIVE TO JOHNSON PLACE, BUT NOW THE OWNER AND IT MAY BE A DIFFERENT OWNER.

I'M PRETTY SURE IT IS NOW WANTS TO HAVE THIS PROPERTY DEVELOPED.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADD IT AND BE AS CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE WITH WHAT JOHNSON PLACE WAS BACK THEN.

IN FACT, OUR 3 LOTS HERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ON THE ORDER OF 30 OR 40% LARGER THAN THE JOHNSON PLACE.

LOTS THE SMALLEST LOTS, 20 OVER 25, ALMOST 26,000FT².

THE AVERAGE LOT IS OVER 27,000FT². SO DOING THIS WE DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO BUILD MORE CONCRETE IN HERE THAT WE'VE GOT 50FT HERE, WHICH GIVES US PLENTY OF ACCESS FOR LOTS 2 AND 3.

IN THIS LOCATION FROM THAT CUL DE SAC. AND THEN LOT 1 WOULD GAIN ITS ACCESS FROM JOHNSON ROAD, JUST LIKE THE THERE'S A, THERE'S AN EXISTING HOUSE WHERE LOT 1 IS NOW AND IT WOULD GAIN ITS ACCESS DIRECTLY FROM JOHNSON ROAD, JUST LIKE IT DOES CURRENTLY. AND HERE'S THE DATA FOR THIS PARTICULAR THING.

3 LOTS ON ON ALMOST 2 ACRES, 1.52 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE LOT SIZES HOW THAT MIGHT WORK.

THIS IS JUST A DIAGRAM, BUT IT'S KIND OF SOMETHING THAT SHOWS HOW A DRIVEWAY WOULD COME IN THROUGH HERE.

THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE ANY OTHER OF THE DRIVEWAYS ALONG REMUDA COURT COMING IN HERE, BUT IT WOULD ACCESS BOTH OF THESE HOMES.

AND THERE IS A LITTLE FLOODPLAIN ALONG THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK AROUND THAT.

BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF THESE ARE KING SIZED LOTS, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO TO BUILD A HOME IN THE AREA REMAINING.

AND YOU KNOW, THIS HOME COULD PROBABLY BE ARRANGED A LITTLE BIT BETTER IF YOU WERE DESIGNING FOR THIS HOME HERE, OF COURSE, WILL FRONT ON, ON JOHNSON ROAD. AND AS FAR AS SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN HERE, THIS IS THIS IS WE HAVE A FEW ELEVATIONS HERE THAT WOULD REPRESENT THE KIND OF QUALITY THAT WILLOW TREE WOULD BE BUILDING ON THESE LOTS VERY, VERY NICE HOMES, HIGH QUALITY HIGH FINISH OUT WITH, WITH CERTAINLY PRICING THAT THAT MEETS THE STANDARDS OF TODAY. SO HERE'S SOME ELEVATIONS AND THAT'S OUR PROPOSAL.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD WE'D LIKE TO BE ULTRA CONSIDERATE TO THE NEIGHBORS.

WE'RE FULLY PREPARED TO PUT UP A SCREEN WALL OR A SCREEN FENCE AROUND THE CUL DE SAC AT THE COURT TO MAINTAIN ANY DUST OR TRASH AND AND KEEP A CLEAN VIEWING AREA FOR THOSE WHO ARE ALREADY LIVING THERE.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE DONATE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD A FULLY RENDERED LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE 5 ACRES, APPROXIMATELY OF OPEN SPACE. THAT WAY, THE HOA HAS A UNIFIED GOAL TO WORK TOWARDS AS FAR AS MAINTAINING ITS GREEN SPACE.

OKAY. I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF SIMPLY PUT, YOU KNOW, CURTIS, YOU KIND OF SAID IT THAT YOU'VE BEEN AROUND HERE FOR A WHILE.

WE TYPICALLY DON'T MAKE LAND USE CHANGES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE SOME COMBINATION OF NEIGHBOR SUPPORT AND OR KIND OF DOWN ZONING.

AND IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IN THIS CASE WE'VE GOT EITHER OF THOSE.

I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING YOU SAW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT KIND OF A LARGE HANDFUL OF FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT THAT WILL JUST SAY ISN'T SUPPORTIVE. SO, I MEAN, I GUESS. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY TO TRY TO.

WELL. I'M JUST TRYING TO CUT TO THE CHASE HERE.

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AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BE OPPOSED TO IT. BUT CLEARLY.

I MEAN IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ON THE SIDE, CLEARLY THIS IS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYONE ANY HARM. IN FACT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW AN OLD, YOU KNOW, VERGING ON RUNDOWN HOUSE AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ADD 3 BEAUTIFUL HOMES.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A NET POSITIVE TO THE JOHNSON PLACE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS THE JOHNSON ROAD CORRIDOR.

YOU KNOW, I REALLY SEE NO DOWNSIDE ON THIS. YEAH, THERE'S GOING TO BE 1 OR 2 CARS COMING DOWN THE REMUDA COURT THAT THERE ISN'T CURRENTLY.

BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE IT CAN BE KIND OF A SUBJECTIVE ITEM IN TERMS OF WHETHER SOMEONE WOULD BE MORE OR LESS EXCITED ABOUT A LAND USE CHANGE REQUESTS THERE, RIGHT? WELL, SURE. I MEAN, PEOPLE PROPOSE ALL THE TIME, BUT BUT I'M NOT SURE THERE'S A THERE'S A PARTICULARLY GOOD REASON FOR IT.

I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PAGES HERE THAT HAVE A LOT OF REASONS, BUT MAYBE WHAT I MIGHT DO IS MAYBE JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT HERE AND OR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KIND OF EXPRESS WHERE THEIR THEIR THOUGHTS SO FAR, MAYBE AHEAD OF ANY KIND OF PUBLIC HEARING, MAYBE I'LL START WITH THE VICE CHAIR ON THIS.

JUST EITHER QUESTIONS AND OR SENTIMENT. WE CAN KIND OF GO AROUND THE DAIS.

CURTIS, YOU TOLD US WHEN YOU CAME TO THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE MEETING, I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LARGE LOTS TO THE, I GUESS THAT'D BE THE WEST KIND OF. TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE THERE.

IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THOSE? NO, NOT THAT WE KNOW OF THAT THAT DIDN'T WANT TO SELL.

AND IT'S ENTIRELY WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN. SO I THINK 20 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A THOUGHT THAT THERE COULD BE SOME MAJOR RECLAMATION IN THIS AREA AND EXTEND THAT CUL DE SAC AND INCLUDE YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF 3 LOTS, IF THAT WAS INCLUDED, THERE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE 6 LOTS, FOR EXAMPLE WITH AN EXTENDED CUL DE SAC OR MAYBE EVEN MORE.

BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN'T UTILIZE PROPERTY OF SOMEONE THAT'S NOT THERE.

AND AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A FAIRLY EXTENDED DELAY TO GET THAT RECLAIMED AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO I DON'T.

THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT. I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. YEAH.

I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD GENERALLY SAY YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.

I THINK IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT BEING SAID I'M USUALLY RELUCTANT TO DO A LAND USE CHANGE OR AMENDMENT JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN LOOKED AT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN MANY, MANY TIMES 20, 25, 20-30 PLAN, ETC.

BUT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WOULD HAVE MUCH BETTER SHOT TO GET IT THROUGH ABSENT WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE.

SO I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. I DON'T HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S LAND USE CHANGE, WHICH MAKES ME A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE. I WOULD ADD THAT, OF COURSE, JOHNSON PLACE WAS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WHEN WE CAME IN THERE AS WELL.

THERE WAS OPPOSITION TO THAT AS THERE ALWAYS IS.

THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT, THERE'S KIND OF A WHOLE BAND OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ALONG THE NORTHERN SIDE OF JOHNSON ROAD. IT'S ONLY THESE UNDEVELOPED SITES THAT JUST HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS TO BE CHANGED YET.

IT'S REALLY IN THE BIGGER PICTURE, THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, QUARTER MILE OR SO NORTH OF JOHNSON ROAD IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING THIS WOULD CERTAINLY BE YOU KNOW, YES. IT WASN'T CHANGED ON ONE OF THOSE 20, 30 PLANS BECAUSE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO TO KIND OF DO OUR NEXT BIG LAND USE PLAN, I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY THINKS THERE SHOULD BE A CHANGE, THEY SHOULD BE DISCUSSED, THEN THERE SHOULD BE NOTICED. THERE'LL BE A DISCUSSION, IT WILL GET CHANGED OR IT WON'T. AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD VERSUS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY THESE KINDS OF THINGS DON'T EVEN GET ADDRESSED.

SO I CAN ONLY TELL YOU HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT.

COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM, DO YOU WANT TO ANY QUESTIONS OR SENTIMENT YOU WANT TO CONVEY? YOU KNOW, JUST FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, ARCHITECTURALLY LIKE MIKE SAID, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

IT'S CONSISTENT AND ALL THAT. BUT WHAT GIVES ME PAUSE IS THAT YOU HAVE SO MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO IT.

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I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DO THAT. DOCTOR SPRINGER.

WELL, I DON'T HATE IT, BUT I CAN ALSO SEE WHY THE NEIGHBORS DON'T CARE FOR IT VERY MUCH, BECAUSE I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE LIVING IN EITHER ONE OF THOSE 2 HOUSES THERE, RIGHT ON THE CUL DE SAC AND HAVING ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, TRAFFIC AND DELIVERIES MADE.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN A COMMUNITY. BUT I MEAN, OVERALL, THE CONCEPT FOR IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME IT'S A GOOD USE OF THE LAND.

AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE THAT CLOSE TO THE FLOODPLAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST RIGHT IN YOUR BACKYARD, HALFWAY IN YOUR BACKYARD. SO BUT I'M SURE THE ENGINEERING WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT DRAINAGE ISSUES ON THAT.

COMMISSIONER PHALEN. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK I ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT THIS DOES SEEM TO FIT IN WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND LAND SIZES, BUT I KIND OF GO BACK TO ALL THESE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE OPPOSING THIS.

YOU KNOW, THEY THEY BOUGHT THESE HOMES UNDER THE LAND USE PLAN THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US RIGHT NOW.

AND SO I FEEL LIKE IF WE IF WE CHANGE THAT, THEN WE'RE CHANGING SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE ALL BASED THEIR CHOICES AND WHERE THEY'RE LIVING BASED UPON THOSE LAND USES IN THAT AREA.

SO I HAVE A HARD TIME APPROVING SOMETHING THAT CHANGES THAT FOR THEM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT.

WELL, THEY ALSO BOUGHT THOSE HOMES WITH THE SIGN SAYING THAT THIS ROADS WAS AHEAD. BUT DESPITE THAT, I AGREE WITH YOU. I MEAN, I'M ON THE FENCE, BUT I STILL THINK WHEN YOU'VE GOT THIS MUCH OPPOSITION AND YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT WHAT THEY THINK IS KIND OF A DEAD END CUL DE SAC AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT TO WHAT THEY THINK IS GOING TO BE A LOW DENSITY USE.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO APPROVE THAT. SO CURTIS, I MEAN, YOU KIND OF KNOW THE PATH FROM HERE.

WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. WE NEED TO HAVE THAT BY STATE LAW.

I THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR. I THINK WE KIND OF KNOW SENATE WISE WHERE WE'LL LIKELY COME OUT ON A RECOMMENDATION.

AND WE CAN WE CAN OBVIOUSLY TALK ABOUT THIS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU WANT AS WELL.

BUT, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY DO YOU WANT US TO JUST CONTINUE TO KIND OF MARCH? OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN TAKE ANY RECOMMENDATION OF OURS TO COUNCIL IF YOU FEEL LIKE THEY'LL THEY'LL LOOK AT THIS DIFFERENTLY. DO YOU WANT US TO KEEP MOVING AHEAD? DO YOU WANT TO DESIRE TO TABLE IT AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY, ANY WAY YOU CAN MAYBE HELP WITH SOME OF THE SENTIMENT THERE OR WHAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS ANYTIME WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION AT THIS [INAUDIBLE] MEETING AND, AND AFTERWARDS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK TO THEM AND ADDRESS ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS THEY HAVE.

BUT THE ALTERNATIVE TO THIS IS 1 LOT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THAT AS IT IS.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LOOK AT IT FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT STANDPOINT WITHOUT REGARD TO WHAT THE WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING.

SO . OKAY. WELL THEN LET'S PROCEED AND. GO AHEAD.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORS. WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY, ANY, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT.

SO NO, NO APPLICANT REQUESTS A TABLE THEN? NO.

OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT FOR THE.

I HAD ONE SUGGESTION. MAYBE IF YOU TAKE THIS THROUGH TO COUNCIL, AND MAYBE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ADJACENT TO YOU, THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD FEEL A LITTLE BETTER IF YOU WERE GOING TO SELL THESE KIND OF FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH, SO YOU COULD AT LEAST GET THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES GOING IN FROM JOHNSON AS OPPOSED TO USING THE CUL DE SAC.

YOU KNOW, DEVELOP THE NORTHERN TRACT FIRST AND THEN WORK YOUR WAY DOWN SO YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION GOING THROUGH THE CUL DE SAC.

JUST MAYBE THAT MAY HELP. OKAY. THAT'S A THOUGHT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP IF WE CAN GET SOME HELP ON SOMETHING.

JUST TO KIND OF EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE IN THE GALLERY, BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION. WE'LL COME TO A RECOMMENDATION. THE APPLICANT CAN TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, WHETHER IT'S KIND OF THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN TO CITY COUNCIL EITHER WAY.

BUT OBVIOUSLY CITY COUNCIL WILL NOTE THE RECOMMENDATION AND KIND OF PROCESS IT ACCORDINGLY.

SO ONCE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS I TALKED ABOUT, EVERYBODY'S WELCOME TO KIND OF COME FORWARD STATE NAME AND ADDRESS.

JUST ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO US. UP TO 3 MINUTES.

AND I GUESS WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AHEAD OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO YOU KIND OF KNEW WHERE THE SENTIMENT WAS ON THIS ONE.

SO YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO STILL COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR SENTIMENT.

YOU CAN LET ALL OF THE YOUR COMMENT, THESE WILL BE IN THE RECORD AS WELL.

YOU SAW IT IN THE STAFF REPORT. THE OPPOSITION WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SO IT'S ALREADY ALL NOTED FOR THE RECORD FOR CITY COUNCIL.

BUT YOU'RE STILL WELCOME TO COME FORWARD IF YOU'D LIKE. I THINK YOU KNOW WHICH WAY THE COMMISSION WILL LIKELY KIND OF VOTE ON THIS,

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SO WITH THAT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH ITEMS 8 AND 9.

AND ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO.

AND. YOU GET TO BE FIRST. SORRY I HAVE PREPARED REMARKS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS REPLYING TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE JUST HEARD.

HOME IN REMUDA COURT, WHICH IS A CUL DE SAC VERSUS A DEAD END STREET.

WHEN WE BUILT IN 2011, THERE WAS NO HOA AND THERE WERE SIGNS AT THE END OF REMUDA COURT AND BRANDING IRON COURT FOR FUTURE EXPANSION BY TOLL BROTHERS.

TOLL BROTHERS FINISHED OUT JOHNSON PLACE MANY YEARS AGO, BUT THEY DID NOT PURSUE EXPANSION.

OUR CCR SOLIDIFIED THAT THE DECLARANT, WHO WAS MATTIE DEVELOPMENT, WAS ABLE TO EXPAND THE SUBDIVISION AND THERE WAS A MEANS FOR HIM TO DO SO DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PERIOD. BUT THERE WAS NO MEANS OR MECHANISM FOR EXPANSION BEYOND.

BEYOND MR. MATTIE OR TOLL BROTHERS, DESPITE THE SIGNS THAT WERE LEFT BEHIND WITH THE SUBSEQUENT FORMATION OF OUR HOA.

TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP TOOK PLACE IN BOTH OUR PLAT AND CCR'S WERE RECORDED, ALONG WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER GOVERNING DOCUMENTS.

THE APPLICATION THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY WOULD ENTAIL AMENDING THOSE DOCUMENTS.

THE JOHNSON PLACE PLAT SHOWS A VARIETY OF EASEMENTS AND A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THE APPLICANT'S PLAN SHOWS A PROPOSED EASEMENT BETWEEN LOTS 2 AND 3 THAT ARE LANDLOCKED.

THE PLAN DETAILS THAT WERE SUBMITTED DID NOT CLEARLY SHOW THAT THERE IS OVER 10 FEET OF SPACE BETWEEN THEIR LOT AND OUR STREET.

THERE IS AN HOA OWNED WROUGHT IRON FENCE, A SIDEWALK, SHRUBBERY, TREES AND A STRETCH OF GRASS IN BETWEEN THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY AND THE END OF REMUDA COURT. THERE IS NO FRONTAGE OR STREET ACCESS AT REMUDA COURT FOR THE PROPOSED 2 LOTS, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT'S LOT FRONTS ON JOHNSON ROAD AND THERE IS NO ACCESS EASEMENT OR SPECIFIED RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING A ROAD, STREET OR DRIVEWAY ONTO PROPERTY OWNED BY THE HOA.

IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT TO HAVE ACCESS FROM THEIR PROPERTY TO CONNECT TO BERMUDA COURT.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE HOA.

THE RELEVANT SECTION OF OUR CCR REQUIRES 75% OF OUR MEMBERSHIP TO APPROVE ACCESS, AS THIS WOULD ENTAIL AMENDING OUR PLAT AND CCR, WHICH BOTH RUN WITH THE LAND THAT IS OWNED BY THE HOA.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE OVER 50% OF OUR MEMBERSHIP OPPOSED TO THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL.

CONSEQUENTLY, IT WOULD BE UNLIKELY FOR THIS PLAN TO BE INITIATED WITHIN JOHNSON PLACE EVEN IF THIS REZONING REQUEST WAS APPROVED.

I DID SUBMIT A RESPONSE FORM AND ATTACHMENTS REFERRING TO WHAT I BELIEVE ARE THE RELEVANT SOUTHLAKE ORDINANCES AS WELL AS OUR CCRS.

FINALLY, I WANTED TO SAY THAT THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THIS PLAN COULDN'T LOOK MORE UNCHARACTERISTIC OF EITHER JOHNSON PLACE OR WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING BUILT IN THE FORM OF LARGE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON JOHNSON ROAD. THE 3 STACKED LOTS DESIGN AND THE USE OF WOOD FENCES ARE TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS OF JOHNSON PLACE.

ADDITIONALLY, THE LONG, STRAIGHT PROPOSED DRIVEWAY AIMED INTO REMUDA COURT LOOKS LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT RATHER THAN A CONTINUOUS AND COMPLEMENTARY DESIGN OF THE EXISTING CUL DE SAC.

SO I STRONGLY OBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS, AS WELL AS THE DANGEROUS PRECEDENT THAT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED IF A PRIVATE OWNER IS ALLOWED TO CONFISCATE A SUBDIVISION'S PROPERTY FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES, PARTICULARLY WHEN THE APPLICANT HAS ADMITTED DURING THE RECENT SPIN MEETING THAT THEY COULD BUILD TOTALLY ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY, BUT HAS CHOSEN NOT TO DO SO.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT MY OBJECTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR WRAPPING UP JUST ON TIME. WE APPRECIATE IT.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO COME FORWARD TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? AGAIN, KIND OF HEARING THE CONVERSATION WE HAD.

I'M LAWRENCE LANGFORD, LIVE AT 2405 REMUDA COURT.

A LOT OF SOME OF THE POINTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE.

I'M JUST GOING TO QUICKLY READ THROUGH. WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE WOULD PERMANENTLY ALTER OUR ESTABLISHED QUIET CUL DE SAC OF 5 HOMEOWNERS AND THEIR FAMILIES, HAVING LIVED THERE ALMOST 20 YEARS.

I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT DESPITE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD, WE DO NOT HAVE A TEMPORARY CUL DE SAC.

IT IS A CUL DE SAC. IF IT WERE INTENDED TO BE TEMPORARY, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DEAD END.

SO REALISTICALLY, IT WAS UNLIKELY TO EVER BE A THRUWAY STREET AFTER THE BUILDER DEVELOPMENT WAS COMPLETED.

HOW CAN THE GREED OF ONE PROPERTY OWNER BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE LIVES AND LIVELIHOODS OF PEOPLE WITH ROOTS HERE? IT GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING SOUTHLAKE STANDS FOR.

WHAT GIVES A BUILDER THE RIGHT TO BUILD YOUR HOUSE, YOUR HOUSE AT THE EXPENSE OF 5 ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORS, THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR LIVES AND THEIR LIFESTYLES.

WE LOVE LIVING IN SOUTHLAKE AND THE LIFESTYLES WE HAVE HERE.

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IT WOULD BE UNPRECEDENTED IN SOUTHLAKE TO ALLOW THIS SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTION IN OUR LIVES.

IT SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. YOU CANNOT JUST TEAR THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE YOU WANT TO, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO. DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE ENTITLED TO.

AS THE NUMBERS THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN IN TERMS OF THE OPPOSITION EVERY HOMEOWNER IN JOHNSON PLACE THAT'S IN THE 200 FOOT AREA HAS OPPOSED THIS. AND COLLECTIVELY IN THE WHOLE 54 LOT NEIGHBORHOOD, ALMOST 60% OF THE OF TOTAL NEIGHBORS ARE AGAINST THIS.

THAT SHOULD BE A BIG RED FLAG RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU FOR KEEPING SOUTHLAKE ONE OF THE BEST CITIES IN TEXAS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO COME FORWARD AND.

I LIVE AT 309 CORRAL COURT IN JOHNSON PLACE. I'M SO AGAINST THIS THAT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT GOING AGAINST SOUTHLAKE ORDINANCES.

SOUTHLAKE ORDINANCE 483 AND 634 SAY THAT HOMES SHOULD HAVE SAFE AND EFFICIENT ACCESS TO AND FROM A PUBLIC STREET SYSTEM. REMUDA IS A PRIVATE STREET. IT'S NOT A PUBLIC STREET.

IT DOESN'T MEET THAT CRITERIA. ALSO, WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THAT LAND FOR 15 YEARS.

I KNOW THE FIRST GENTLEMAN SAID THAT HE USED TO WORK WITH ME WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS BEING DEVELOPED.

THAT WAS THE SIGN WAS THERE BECAUSE TOLL BROTHERS WAS GOING TO DO PHASE 2 THERE.

IT WAS NEVER INTENDED FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO OPEN A RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH MULTI HOUSES ON IT.

IT WAS FOR TOLL BROTHERS. WHEN TOLL BROTHERS DECIDED NOT TO DO IT, WE TOOK OVER THE LAND AND WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF IT EVER SINCE.

THE 3, THE PROPOSED DESIGNS THAT THE DEVELOPER SHOWED YOU AND THE BUILDER ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGNS THAT WE HAVE NOW AND WOULDN'T FIT IN WITH WHAT WE HAVE. AND IT'S WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUE ASPECT OF IT.

WE ALSO HAVE CCRS THAT PRECLUDE THE PARKING OF ANY VEHICLES OTHER THAN FOR INVITED GUESTS.

SO CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES WOULD HAVE TO BE PARKED ON JOHNSON ROAD, NOT ON REMUDA.

IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO POLICE THAT AREA AND HAVE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ADDITION TO THE NOISES.

AND AS SOMEONE WHO BACKS UP TO RANDOL MILL WHEN THAT WAS BEING WIDENED.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 1 LENGTH OF TIME AND IT TURNED INTO 3 TIMES THAT.

IT WAS LOUD. THEY WERE STILL WORKING AT 10:00 AT NIGHT.

OUR BEDROOM BACKS UP TO THAT. IT WAS A NIGHTMARE, AND I DON'T WANT THOSE PEOPLE ON REMUDA TO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH WHAT I PUT UP WITH ON THE RANDOL MILL EXPANSION. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT PERSON GO. FEEL FREE TO GO AHEAD.

COME ON UP, SIR. YOU WERE UP LAST TIME, SO FEEL FREE.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] DO YOU MIND SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN GET IT ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU. NOW YOU CAN HEAR ME. YEAH.

PERFECT. OKAY. MY NAME IS TOMMY [INAUDIBLE]. I LIVE RIGHT HERE IN 2404.

REMUDA CALLED THE SETBACK. WHAT THEY SAY ON THE PLAN.

IT DOESN'T MATCH THE SETBACK. WHAT WE HAVE. BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE TO REMODEL OUR HOME AND ALL THAT, WE HAVE TO STICK TO THE SETBACK, THE FRONT SET BACK AND BACK ON THE REAR SETBACK TOO.

AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT PLAN. AND NOW THIS BUILDER SAYING THE SAME SETBACK IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT PROXIMITY, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO ALIGN WITH OUR STREET AND THE HOME.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LOOKS THE SAME. THAT'S THE MAIN PART.

AND I'LL MOST OF THE OPPOSITION WHAT THEY SAY IN OUR NEIGHBORS, I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT THE SAME THING.

BUT THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH OUR HOA AND THE CITY PLAN AND WHAT ELSE? THE PROXIMITY AND THE SETBACKS AND ALL THAT.

AND I'M TOTALLY OPPOSED THAT THING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT COMING OUT.

ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO PUT YOUR COMMENTS KIND OF VERBALLY ON THE RECORD, IN ADDITION TO THE COMMENT CARDS WE ALL HAVE HERE.

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I GUESS ANY MORE, ANY OTHER SENTIMENTS ANYONE WANTS TO PUT ON THE RECORD BEFORE WE MAYBE ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON TAKING THEM? PROBABLY INDIVIDUALLY. I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY STAFF.

IS THAT IS REMUDA COURT A PRIVATE DENTIST? IS IT PRIVATE OR IS THAT A PUBLICLY MAINTAINED ROAD? IT IS A PUBLIC STREET, AND THE SUBDIVISION PLAT THAT DEDICATED THE RIGHT OF WAY DOES ENCOMPASS THE CUL DE SAC. I BELIEVE IT'S A 50 FOOT RADIAL RIGHT OF WAY OR 100 FOOT IN DIAMETER.

AND THEN THE THERE IS A SHORT. STUB OF RIGHT OF WAY THAT EXTENDS TO THE WEST BOUNDARY OF JOHNSON PLACE THAT ADJOINS THE BOUNDARY OF THIS TRACT.

SO THERE IS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT EXTENDS TO THE TRACT ABUTTING THE WEST BOUNDARY OF THIS PORTION OF JOHNSON PLACE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT OR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY ITEM NUMBER 8 ON OUR AGENDA.

CP25-0002. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. AND AGAIN, A VOTE YES IS TO DENY.

JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE REMEMBERS THAT.

5-0. OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN THE NEXT 1. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY ITEM NUMBER 9 ON OUR AGENDA ZA25-0052. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD AND VOTE AGAIN. A VOTE YES IS TO DENY.

OKAY. THAT'S 5-0Q AGAIN. SO MAYBE JUST TO EXPLAIN THAT FOR PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, BASICALLY THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO DENY BOTH OF THOSE REQUESTS. THE APPLICANT HAS THE ABILITY TO TAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, POTENTIALLY TO THEIR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH DENNIS WILL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH. AND THAT'S CORRECT.

THERE WILL BE A NOTICE FOR THAT IF THAT IS THE NEXT STEP THAT'S TAKEN.

CORRECT. AND THE FIRST READING AT CITY COUNCIL IS JUST A NON PUBLIC HEARING, FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ADVERTISEMENT GOES OUT IN THE NEWSPAPER FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD AT SECOND READING FOR THE ITEM, WHICH WOULD BE SUBSEQUENT TO ANY FIRST READING, WHICH OF COURSE, THE APPLICANT HAS THE RIGHT TO TABLE OR ASK FOR TABLE OR WITHDRAW. OKAY, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU IF IT'S ON THE SEPTEMBER 16TH AGENDA OR NOT.

YOU'RE STILL WELCOME TO SHOW UP. THE MAYOR MAY OR MAY NOT OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT.

TYPICALLY, BY LAW, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO, BUT SOMETIMES HE DOES.

AND YOU'RE STILL WELCOME TO SUBMIT, YOU KNOW FORMS IN TERMS OF HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT EVERYTHING AND OBVIOUSLY EMAIL AND PUT SENTIMENT IN.

SO DOES THAT ALL SOUND GOOD, DENNIS? YES. AND THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDAS ARE, ARE POSTED 3 BUSINESS DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING HELD. AND SO THOSE ARE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND ANYBODY CAN CHECK THOSE AGENDAS TO, TO FOLLOW AN ITEM AND STAY UP WITH THAT ITEM AS IT MOVES THROUGH THE PROCESS.

CHECK THE WEBSITE AS WELL. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TO THAT ITEM. NOW, AS I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, WE'LL MOVE BACK UP IN THE AGENDA TO ITEM NUMBER 6.

[6. Consider: ZA25-0044, Site Plan for Kirkwood Professional Office Building, on property legally described as Lot 2, Block 1, Kirkwood East Addition and located at 1420 W. Kirkwood Blvd. Current zoning: “NR-PUD” Non-Residential Planned Unit Development. SPIN Neighborhood #1. PUBLIC HEARING]

NEXT. IT'S A SITE PLAN FOR KIRKWOOD PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING.

ALRIGHT, GOING TO BE GOING OVER ITEM 6? AS THE CHAIRMAN SAID, SITE PLAN FOR KIRKWOOD PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING.

SO LOCATION IS 1420 WEST KIRKWOOD AND IT IS PART OF THE KIRKWOOD EAST DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

SO HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. FUTURE LAND USE IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS NONRESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. HERE'S A STREET VIEW FROM KIRKWOOD LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE SITE.

SO HERE IS THE CURRENTLY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE IT IS LOT NUMBER 2.

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SO HERE IS THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE ADJACENT LOTS A LITTLE BIT MORE ZOOMED IN VERSION RIGHT HERE.

SITE DATA SUMMARY, SOME INFORMATION ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.

BUILDING SPACES, JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDER 5000FT².

TREE PRESERVATION PLAN FOR THE SITE. NORTH AND EAST ELEVATIONS.

SOUTH AND WEST ELEVATIONS. HERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED FLOOR PLAN OF THE BUILDING.

LIGHTING PLAN FOR THE BUILDING AS WELL. NO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE HAD ANY OPPOSITION SUPPORT OR UNDECIDED RESPONSES COME IN AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE.

OKAY. SO NO NO VARIANCES ASSOCIATED REQUESTED WITH THIS ITEM.

OKAY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. HOPEFULLY YOU'RE NOT TIRED OF SEEING ME ALREADY.

OH, OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN SEEING YOU FOR YEARS.

CURTIS YOUNG WITH SAGE GROUP 1130 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT HERE. THIS YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, WE WE REVISE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SEVERAL MONTHS AGO TO ACCOMMODATE THIS BUILDING IN PARTICULAR. AND WHAT WAS WANTING TO DO THIS? SO THIS IS NOW THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AS WAS MENTIONED, THIS IS DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND THE SITE PLAN IN ELEVATIONS.

THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SHOW YOU IS, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

WE CANNOT PLANT TREES UNDERNEATH THE OVERHEAD POWER LINE IN HERE.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO TREES OUT IN THIS AREA.

BUT IT WOULD JUST BE TURF IN THAT AREA. THAT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE? YES. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE.

SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LET ME KNOW.

ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 6 ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. AND SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I GUESS UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS, WE CAN ENTERTAIN A VOTE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6 ON OUR AGENDA ZA25-0044 SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED AUGUST 29TH, 2025 AND SUBJECT TO THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER 2 DATED AUGUST 29TH, 2025.

I HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND. VOTE, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS, CURTIS. ON A LITTLE EASIER VOTE AT THAT TIME.

5-0. AND GOOD LUCK AT CITY COUNCIL. SO WITH THAT WE WILL JUMP DOWN REALLY QUICKLY TO ITEM NUMBER 10 ON OUR AGENDA.

[10. Consider: ZA25-0056, Preliminary Plat for The Oaks, for property described as Tract 2F, F. Throop Survey Abstract No. 1511 and Lots 1 and 3, Block 1, The Hill Addition, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 2160 E. Highland Street and 1440 N. Kimball Avenue. Current Zoning: “SF-1A” Single Family Residential District. SPIN Neighborhood #4. PUBLIC HEARING]

AND THEN AFTER THAT ONE WE'LL JUMP BACK TO ITEM 7 TO CLOSE OUT THE AGENDA.

SO. ITEM 10 TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE OAKS.

LOCATION IS ON 2160 EAST HIGHLAND, 2140 EAST HIGHLAND AND 1440 NORTH KIMBALL.

AND RIGHT ON THAT CORNER THERE. SO HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE JUST TO THE WEST OF KIMBALL AND TO THE NORTH OF HIGHLAND THERE.

FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND THE ZONING IS SF 1-A.

SO HERE IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S AN SF 1-A ,11 RESIDENTIAL LOTS ON JUST UNDER 13 TOTAL ACRES.

SO HERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED VERSION SO YOU CAN SEE THE LAYOUT OF THE LOTS.

HERE IS THE EXISTING DRAINAGE PLAN FOR THE SITE AND THE PRELIMINARY GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN.

HERE IS THE UTILITY PLAN SHOWING THE WATER AND SEWER LINES TO BE ADDED.

SO HERE IS THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS PLAN SHOWING THE SIDEWALKS.

THE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN. HERE'S THE STREET VIEW OF THE SITE FROM KIMBALL AND THE VIEW FACING NORTH FROM EAST HIGHLAND.

NO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE SUBMITTED RESPONSES THUS FAR AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE.

SO ANY THERE'S NO VARIANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ONE EITHER THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.

AND MAYBE ONE QUESTION I FORGOT TO ASK IN THE WORK SESSION, A FAVORITE OF MINE.

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IT IS NOT. NO. IT IS. THANK YOU. PUBLIC STREET.

OKAY. FEEL FREE TO NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD. IF ANYONE CARES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? BUSY NIGHT. YOU MAY JUST MAKE IT HOME FOR THE GAME.

I'M YOUR BEST CUSTOMER, CURTIS YOUNG WITH THE SAGE GROUP.

1130 NORTH CARROLL. WE'RE JUST INTENDING TO MEET THE ORDINANCE ON THIS AND NOT ASKING FOR LAND USE CHANGE.

WE DID TAKE THIS TO CORRIDOR WITH THE THOUGHT THAT THOSE WERE A LOT 1 AND 2IS THERE MIGHT BE SOME SENSE BECAUSE THEY'RE NEXT TO THE OFFICE BUILDINGS TO THE EAST TO HAVE SOME SMALLER LOTS THERE. BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE WERE TOLD IS NO, WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THEM ALL 1 ACRE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND THIS IS INTENDED TO MEET ALL, ALL FACETS OF THE ORDINANCE.

BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO QUESTIONS CURTIS.

BUT I THINK YOU OUGHT TO CALL THE RANGERS UP YOUR BATTING AVERAGE TONIGHT, IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. WHAT'S UP? THANK YOU FOR THAT, I GUESS. OKAY. SO ANY OH, YES.

YOU KICKED ME. ITEM NUMBER 10 ON AGENDA DOES CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU SIR. GOT A CUSTOMER? THANK YOU MY NAME IS SCOTT FORDHAM. I LIVE AT 2020 EAST HIGHLAND STREET AND HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT AT 2020 EAST HIGHLAND STREET FOR 11 YEARS.

WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR THOUGHTS WITH THE COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER.

WE HAVE HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE DEVELOPER, AND WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT SEVERAL OF THE COMMUNITIES IN THEIR COMMUNITIES IN AND AROUND SOUTHLAKE. FOR THOSE OF YOU NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, EAST HIGHLAND IS A CONNECTOR STREET BETWEEN CARROLL AVENUE AND NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE.

IT IS A TWO WAY STREET WITHOUT A MEDIAN AND WITHOUT SHOULDERS, AND HAS PARTIAL BUT LIMITED SIDEWALKS.

THE STREET IS LINED WITH RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND HAS A BLIND HILL LOCATED BETWEEN NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE AND CARROLL MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH HAS A WALKING AND BIKING ENTRANCE FOR THE STUDENTS OFF EAST HIGHLAND.

IN RELATION TO THE DEVELOPMENT. OUR PROPERTY FRANCES HIGHLAND AND WILL RUN PARALLEL TO LOT ONE, APPROXIMATELY 30FT AWAY. WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE DEVELOPER YESTERDAY TO SHARE OUR THOUGHTS ASK QUESTIONS AND HEAR THE DEVELOPER'S THOUGHTS ON 5 ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, THE POSSIBILITY OF THE ENTRANCE OF THE COMMUNITY BEING OFF NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE RATHER THAN EAST HIGHLAND.

REGARDING THIS POINT, THE DEVELOPER SHARED THEIR CONCERN THAT THE HIGH VOLTAGE LINES THAT RUN ALONG NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE WOULD LIKELY DETRACT FROM THE ESTHETICS OF THE ENTRANCE.

AS NEIGHBORS, WE WANT THIS TO BE A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT.

WE APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER'S CONCERN AND AGREE THAT THIS IS A VALID CONCERN.

NUMBER 2, WE DISCUSSED OUR DESIRE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO BE OFF NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE RATHER THAN EAST HIGHLAND.

THE DEVELOPER SUGGESTED THAT THIS WOULD BE THEIR DESIRE AS WELL.

NUMBER 3, WE SHARED OUR DESIRE FOR THE ENTRANCE TO THE NEW COMMUNITY TO BE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING, INCLUDING ANY FENCING ALONG EAST HIGHLAND, AND FOR THE DEVELOPER TO RETAIN AS MUCH OF THE MATURE LANDSCAPE AS FEASIBLE.

THE DEVELOPER SUGGESTED THAT THEY WILL SEEK TO RETAIN AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT THE ENTRANCE TO THE COMMUNITY WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THEIR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, AND SUGGESTED THAT A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE THEIR HAWKWOOD COMMUNITY, LOCATED OFF SOUTH PATTENGILL AVENUE AND SOUTHLAKE NUMBER 4.

THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COULD ALLOW FOR THE RESIDENTS ALONG EAST HIGHLAND THAT DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ACCESS TO CITY SEWER, TO CONNECT INTO CITY SEWER THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE DEVELOPER NOTED THAT THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITY TO SEE IF THIS COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. AND FINALLY NUMBER 5, THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON EAST HIGHLAND THAT WILL RESULT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT'S NEW RESIDENTS AND ITS POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THE SAFETY OF THE PEDESTRIANS WHO WALK ALONG EAST HIGHLAND, INCLUDING THE STUDENTS THAT WALK OR BIKE TO AND FROM CARROLL MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THE DEVELOPER NOTED THAT THEIR PLAN IS TO HAVE SIDEWALKS RUN IN FRONT OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

AFTER SPEAKING TO THE DEVELOPER AND HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING, I WOULD BE GRATEFUL IF THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY WOULD CONSIDER FOR REQUEST THAT THE CONSTRUCTION, ENTRANCE AND EXIT BE OFF NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE.

THE THAT THE ENTRANCE TO THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE SIMILAR QUALITY AND ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AS THE HAWKWOOD COMMUNITY THAT THE DEVELOPER AND CITY WOULD WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS OF EAST HIGHLAND TO. TO USE THIS DEVELOPMENT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS ALONG EAST HIGHLAND TO ACHIEVE SEWER ACCESS.

AND NUMBER FOUR, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SIDEWALKS FOR EAST HIGHLAND ARE ON THE CITY'S FIVE YEAR PLAN.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE NOTED THOSE FOR THE RECORD. WE'LL PROBABLY READ THEM IN FOR A MOTION. AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT DIALOG AHEAD OF TIME. THAT'S WHEN IT HONESTLY WORKS.

THE BEST IS WHEN APPLICANTS AND RESIDENTS GET TOGETHER AHEAD OF THESE MEETINGS AND TRY TO WORK THROUGH THESE ITEMS SO THAT BY THE TIME IT GETS TO US, HOPEFULLY WE'RE FAIRLY CLOSE. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THOSE ITEMS PROBABLY INTO THE RECORD, AND I WILL WISH YOU GOOD LUCK ON THE SIDEWALK REQUEST.

AS SOMEONE WHO ALMOST GETS RUN OVER ON DOVE ROAD A LOT TRYING TO JOG.

I'M 22 YEARS HERE AND STILL WAITING. SO ANY OTHER PUBLIC? ANYONE ELSE WANT TO COME FORWARD? GO AHEAD. YES, SIR.

COME ON. AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS EACH PERSON CAN GET THREE MINUTES.

SO WE DON'T. IT'S KIND OF INDIVIDUAL. OR ELSE IT'LL START TO KIND OF GO GO NUTS.

SO FEEL FREE TO KIND OF SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND GIVE US YOUR THREE MINUTES APIECE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RANDALL OWEN. I LIVE AT 2130 EAST HIGHLAND.

CHARITY. OWEN. I'M HIS WIFE. I LIVE AT 2130 EAST HIGHLAND.

I'M NOT SPEAKING. OKAY. THANK YOU. HE APPRECIATES YOUR SUPPORT.

SO SO WE LIVE IN THAT. THAT LARGE THREE AND A HALF ACRE LOT JUST TO THE SOUTH OF LOT FOUR AND FIVE.

WE'VE BEEN RESIDENTS THERE FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS.

WE ARE SCOTT'S NEIGHBOR. WE'VE TALKED TO ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING AND ALL THE POINTS THAT HE BROUGHT UP.

WE ALSO HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AND AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID.

OKAY. IN ADDITION TO WHAT SCOTT HAD PROVIDED, THERE ARE SOME ELECTRIC UTILITY CONCERNS.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE ELECTRIC COMING IN FROM WHERE LAWTON FOUR AND FIVE ARE CURRENTLY ON THE MAP.

SO WE REQUIRE ACCESS TO DEVELOP OR PROVIDE ACCESS FOR THAT ELECTRICITY AS WELL AS BETWEEN LOT ONE AND TWO.

WE HAVE AN ELECTRIC METER THERE AS WELL. SO AFTER AFTER WE HOOK UP THAT ELECTRICITY, THERE WILL BE SOME ELECTRIC POLES THAT ARE NOT BEING USED. SO WE ASK THAT THE DEVELOPER REMOVE THOSE POLES AT THE NECESSARY TIME.

I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THE SIDEWALK SITUATION.

I'VE BEEN ALMOST HIT TWICE ON EAST HIGHLAND. JUST RECENTLY, THERE WAS A BICYCLIST THAT HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL COMMISSIONERS BE IN CONTROL OF THAT.

I PROMISE YOU WE WOULD. YEAH. SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD EXPEDITE THAT.

FEEL FREE TO SHOW UP AT CITY COUNCIL. THEY MAKE THE DECISIONS.

WE'RE WITH YOU ON THAT. AND THE OTHER PERSONAL REQUEST WOULD BE TO MODIFY THE EXISTING PRIVACY FENCE THAT WE HAVE ON OUR PROPERTY TO INCLUDE BOARD ON BOARD FOR ADDITIONAL PRIVACY.

OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. NO. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL NOTE THOSE AS WELL TO MAYBE READ INTO EMOTION AND KIND OF AND APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TONIGHT AND WE'LL, WE'LL KIND OF PROCESS IT ACCORDINGLY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE APPLICANT AND ASSUME THAT HE'S GOING TO TRY TO SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ON SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. AND BEFORE CITY COUNCIL JUST TO THESE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED.

YOU CAN GO HOME IF YOU'RE REALLY, REALLY BORED AND WATCH THEM ONLINE.

SO THEY'LL ALL BE ALL THESE ITEMS WILL BE PRESERVED FOR POSTERITY IN TERMS OF KIND OF BEING ENUMERATED AND OTHER ITEMS THAT THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS.

IF AND WHEN HE TAKES IT TO COUNCIL. AND AGAIN, PLEASE UNDERSTAND.

I THINK WE TRIED TO BRING THAT UP AT THE BEGINNING. THIS ONE, THEY ARE GENERALLY FOLLOWING OUR CITY ORDINANCES, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LEEWAY WE HAVE ON CERTAIN THINGS, BUT IT'S NICE THAT THE APPLICANT IS BEING ACCOMMODATING AND TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ITEMS. SO WITH THAT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN FOR ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

AND SEEING NO ONE WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I KNOW THE VICE CHAIRMAN TOOK GOOD NOTES, I GUESS.

WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OTHER THAN MAYBE MORE SENTIMENT ON THE SIDEWALKS, WHICH WE'VE GOT A WE'VE GOT A FORMER MAYOR IN HERE. I KIND OF PROBABLY BLAME HIM FOR NOT GETTING THAT ALL FIGURED OUT.

YEAH, THAT OCCURRED UNDER HIS TERM, I BELIEVE.

SO. HE EVEN LIVES ON THE NORTH SIDE. I THINK HE WOULD HAVE GOT THAT DONE. BUT ANYWAY, WITH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN? LET ME TAKE A CRACK AT IT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. ITEM NUMBER TEN ON OUR AGENDA IS A 25 0056 SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2025, ALSO SUBJECT TO OUR PLAT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2025, AND NOTING THE COMMENTS FROM THE HOMEOWNERS AND NEIGHBORS AND THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO DISCUSS WITH THE CITY AND WITH COUNCIL HAVING THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE OFF OF KIMBALL AVENUE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT HAVING AN ENTRANCE THAT IS SIMILAR IN QUALITY AND ESTHETICS AS THE HAWKWOOD

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ALSO DISCUSSING WITH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER SIDELINE SIDEWALKS ON EAST HIGHLAND BACK TOWARDS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL, AND THEN ALSO NOTING THE APPLICANTS WILLINGNESS TO DISCUSS WITH THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORS THAT OWN THE LOT SOUTH OF LOT LOTS FOUR AND FIVE.

THE UTILITY CONNECTIONS AND THE REMOVAL OF THE UTILITY POLES.

AND THEN FINALLY POTENTIALLY REPLACING THE BOARD, REPLACING THE FENCE UNDER LOTS SOUTH OF LOTS FOUR AND FIVE WITH BOARD ON BOARD? YES. DID I GET IT? SEEMS LIKE.

YEAH, I THINK I THINK WE GENERALLY GOT IT AGAIN, ASSUMING THIS GOES TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE DATE I REFERENCED EARLIER.

WAS THAT THE 16TH I CAN'T REMEMBER. YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY COME TO THAT MEETING AGAIN AND KIND OF VOICE CONCERNS, BUT HOPEFULLY GET WITH THE APPLICANT AHEAD OF TIME AND, AND YOU KNOW, GET THEM LARGELY ADDRESSED.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE PLEASE. AND ITEM PASSES FIVE ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 16TH.

AND YOU CAN NOW RUN HOME AND GET TO THE FOOTBALL GAME.

SO WITH THAT, THAT WRAPS UP ITEM TEN. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS A ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TRADEMARK SECURITIES.

THE ESTEEMED VICE CHAIRMAN IS GOING TO LEAD THAT DISCUSSION.

[7. Consider: ZA25-0045, Zoning Change and Development Plan for Trademark Southlake, on property described as Tracts 1A and 1A03, James J. West Survey Abstract No. 1620 and located at 1800 and 1900 N. White Chapel Blvd. Current Zoning: “AG” Agricultural District. Requested Zoning: “ECZ” Employment Center Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #3. PUBLIC HEARING]

BUT YOU'RE IN VERY GOOD HANDS WITH THE WELL TENURED VICE CHAIRMAN HERE IS GOING ON PROBABLY YEAR 15, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HE'S LOST COUNT.

SO GOOD LUCK.

GOOD EVENING. I'LL BE PRESENTING ITEM SEVEN ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TRADEMARK SOUTHLAKE.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING OR THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO SEEK APPROVAL OF A ZONING CHANGE, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR TRADEMARK SOUTHLAKE FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON APPROXIMATELY 40 ACRES AT 1819 HUNDRED NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD.

HERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY. FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS MIXED USE.

THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE AN OPTIONAL LAND USE CATEGORY OF CAMPUS OVERLAY WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY FOR DEVELOPMENTS BUILT TO SUIT OFFICE DEVELOPMENTS, 100,000FT² OR LARGER, OR FOR THE USE OF CORPORATE OR REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS.

PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FIRMS, FINANCIAL FIRMS, MEDIA COMPANIES GENERALLY CHARACTERIZED BY 2 TO 4 STORY BUILDINGS.

IT ALSO HAS A LAND USE CATEGORY OF EC1, EC2, WHICH IS THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER CATEGORY.

THIS IS INTENDED FOR HIGH INTENSITY USES, KIND OF ALONG THAT FRONTAGE ROAD OF STATE HIGHWAY 114.

AND THEN KIND OF FURTHER BACK ON THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, MORE MEDIUM INTENSITY USES.

AND THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING EMPLOYMENT CENTER ZONING WITH THIS, WITH THIS PROJECT. THERE ARE SOME SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS SITE AS WELL.

SOME OF THOSE BEING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THESE PROPERTIES SHOULD BE APPROVED IN A MANNER THAT IS SENSITIVE TO POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS, PARTICULARLY PARTICULARLY AS RELATED TO NOISE, TRAFFIC, BUILDING HEIGHTS, LIGHTING AND VIEWS.

BUFFER ANY RESIDENTIAL USES FROM NON RESIDENTIAL USES ON THIS PROPERTY.

DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE SENSITIVE TO THE EXISTING TREE COVER, AND ATTEMPTS SHOULD BE MADE DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS TO MAXIMIZE TREE COVER, ALONG WITH NATURAL FEATURES AND TOPOGRAPHY. AND THEN ANY DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE WALKABLE AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

CURRENT ZONING IS AG, AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER ZONING DISTRICT IS.

THE INTENT OF IT IS TO ENCOURAGE MIXED USE. DEVELOPMENT.

OFFICE. RETAIL. HOSPITALITY. RESIDENTIAL. PROMOTE CORPORATE CAMPUSES AND QUALITY COMMERCIAL DESIGN.

PROTECT NATURAL FEATURES AND INTEGRATE OPEN SPACE TO CREATE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENTS.

THERE ARE FOUR DISTINCT COMPONENTS, WHICH THE FIRST ONE IS COMMERCIAL CORE, WHICH INCLUDES HIGH INTENSITY RETAIL, OFFICE, AND MIXED USE. THE EDGE OFFICE, RESIDENTIAL AND LIMITED RETAIL.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD PORTION, WHICH INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL WITH TRANSITIONS TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND OPEN SPACE.

STANDARDS. AND HERE IS THE OVERALL PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE.

THIS SLIDE HERE KIND OF BREAKS THEM UP INTO THE FIVE LOTS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.

THE FIRST LOT IS GOING TO BE DEFINED IN THE FUTURE.

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LOT TWO IS GOING TO BE RETAIL AND RESTAURANT.

LOT THREE IS GOING TO BE OFFICE AND RESTAURANT.

LOT FOUR AND FIVE IS GOING TO BE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH LOT FOUR AVERAGING AROUND 12,000FT², LOT AREA AND LOT FIVE AVERAGING AROUND 10,000FT² LOT AREA.

HERE'S THE SITE DATA SUMMARY CHART FOR THESE SITES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GROSS ACREAGE IS JUST ABOVE 40 ACRES, WITH THE NET ACREAGE JUST ABOVE 33.

THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF THAT IS 21.85. DOWN BELOW YOU CAN SEE THE AREA BY USE RESTAURANTS GOING TO BE THE MAJORITY OF THE, OF THE USE THERE. JUST OVER 55,000FT². THERE ARE GOING TO BE 40 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

AND THEN RIGHT BELOW THAT YOU'LL SEE THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IS HAS NO DENSITY REQUIREMENT.

BUT THESE NUMBERS ARE KIND OF JUST CALCULATED FOR YOUR YOUR DISCLOSURE.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN FOR LOTS ONE AND TWO ARE SHOWN HERE.

AGAIN, LOT ONE WILL BE DETERMINED IN THE FUTURE.

SO THEY WILL COME BACK AND GET A SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THAT OR SITE PLAN FOR THAT LOT TOO, IS GOING TO INCLUDE THE GROCERY STORE, SOME RETAIL SPACE, AND A COUPLE RESTAURANTS LOCATED NEAR THAT POND DOWN THERE.

AND HERE'S SOME ELEVATIONS. THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS THERE.

THE SECOND RESTAURANT. AND HERE'S A RENDERING OF THOSE TWO RESTAURANTS BY THE POND.

BUILDING FORWARD IS GOING TO BE THE GROCERY STORE SHOWING THE FRONT ELEVATION THERE.

AND THEN BUILDING FIVE IS GOING TO BE THE RETAIL FRONT ELEVATION. AND THEN THE SIDE VIEW THERE FROM THE SOUTH SOUTHEAST AND NORTHWEST SIDE THERE OF THE, OF THE GROCERY AND RETAIL.

AND THEN THE REAR VIEW AS WELL. AND HERE IS A RENDERING.

AND THEN THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR LOT THREE.

THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE SOME RESTAURANTS A PRIVATE PARK AREA.

SOME OFFICE SPACE. TEN, 11 AND 12 IS GOING TO BE WHERE THE OFFICE SPACE IS LOCATED.

TEN AND 11. THE FIRST FLOOR IS GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT.

AND THEN BUILDING SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT AND NINE ARE GOING TO BE EXCLUSIVELY RESTAURANTS AS WELL.

AND THEN THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF LOT THREE DOWN ON THE FAR BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER.

BUILDING 13 IS PROPOSED TO BE A RESTAURANT. THIS ALSO WILL COME BACK AT A FUTURE DATE WITH A SITE PLAN TO BE APPROVED.

AND THEN HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR THOSE BUILDINGS.

SO BUILDING SIX AND SEVEN, WHICH ARE TWO OF THE RESTAURANTS SHOWN HERE.

ANOTHER VIEW. AND THEN BUILDING EIGHT IS GOING TO BE A BIGGER RESTAURANT IN THE BACK, BACK THERE WITH THOSE ELEVATIONS HERE AND THE REAR FACING ELEVATION. AND BUILDING NINE IS GOING TO BE THAT RESTAURANT LOCATED NEAR THE PRIVATE PARK AREA.

AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THESE ARE BUILDINGS 11 OR 10, 11 AND 12.

THIS IS A REAR VIEW SHOWING THE RESTAURANT. THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE ORANGE OVER THE RESTAURANT SPACE WILL BE AND THEN THE REST OF IT WILL BE OFFICE. AND THEN ON THE SIDE THERE, THIS IS THE REAR VIEW.

YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED DRIVE THROUGH FOR THE BANK THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING AND ONE OF THOSE OFFICE SPACES AND THEN A PATIO GOING ON TOP OF THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN HERE IS A RENDERING OF THAT SITE. SOME MORE RENDERINGS.

AND THEN THE SITE DATA SUMMARY FOR LOTS FOUR AND FIVE ARE SHOWN HERE.

AGAIN 40 RESIDENTIAL LOTS ARE PROPOSED. THEY ARE SHOWING SIX OPEN SPACE LOTS.

WE SEE THREE ON LOT FOUR, AND THEN WE'VE ONLY SAW TWO ON LOT FIVE, BUT THERE COULD BE A THIRD THAT THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS IN THEIR IN THEIR PRESENTATION.

MINIMUM LOT AREA THERE FOR LOT FOUR IS GOING TO BE 10,672FT².

LOT FIVE WILL BE JUST OVER 8300FT². AND THEN THE AVERAGE LOT AREA, AS MENTIONED PRIOR 12, JUST OVER 12,000 FOR LOT FOUR AND JUST OVER 10,000 FOR LOT FIVE.

AND HERE IS A CLOSER UP VIEW OF LOT FOUR. AND THEN LOT FIVE AS WELL.

AND HERE ARE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED HOMES.

THAT'S SHOWING THE OPEN SPACE. AND LOT FIVE AND MORE HOMES.

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JUST SHOWING YOU THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND PRIVATE DRIVES ON THE SITE, AS YOU CAN SEE UP HERE IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 26 TO 30FT OF ROADWAY.

THAT IS, A PRIVATE DRIVE DOWN HERE IS GOING TO BE 26FT OF ROADWAY.

THAT'S A PRIVATE DRIVE. AND THEN THE REST IS GOING TO BE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

50FT BASICALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SECTIONS AND THEN 100FT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE EXTENSION OF KIRKWOOD RIGHT HERE.

HERE'S THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS PLAN FOR THE SITES.

THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE PATHWAYS PLAN. ALONG STATE HIGHWAY 114 AND NORTH WHITE CHAPEL OF THE PROPOSED PUBLIC EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK.

HERE IS THEIR TREE PRESERVATION PLAN. THERE IS A 3.5% EXISTING TREE COVER ON THE SITE.

THEY ARE SHOWING TO PRESERVE JUST ABOUT 12% OF THAT AND STRAIGHT UP ZONING.

THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PRESERVE 70% OF THAT, BUT IT DOES HAVE SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY ON THAT.

THEN HERE IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN RENDERING FOR THE SITE.

THEIR OPEN SPACE PLAN. IT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 15%.

THEY ARE SHOWING 19%. AND THEN A RENDERING OF THE ROUNDABOUT.

THEIR GRADING PLAN SHOWN HERE. DRAINAGE PLAN.

THE SANITARY SEWER PLAN. WATER PLAN. AND THEN HERE IS GOING TO SHOW SOME PROPOSED SEC REGULATIONS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THE PERMITTED USES ARE LISTED OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECTS OF THE REGULATIONS, INCLUDING BUILDING HEIGHT, SETBACKS, DIMENSIONS, LOT AREA, WIDTH AND DEPTH AND SOME OTHERS.

NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE BUILDING STANDARDS FOR ALL OTHER USES ON THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING BUILDING HEIGHT AND SETBACKS. HERE, THEY'RE SHOWING THEIR OPEN SPACE STANDARDS, THE OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND PARKING SPACE DIMENSIONS.

THIS HERE IS A TABLE SHOWING YOU SOME OF THE DEVIATIONS THAT THEY ARE DEVIATING FROM THE NORMAL STANDARDS.

SO LINE ITEM ONE THERE IS GOING TO BE THE STANDARD IS CALLED SACHSE ARE PROHIBITED IN SEC DISTRICTS.

THEY ARE PROPOSING A DEAD END STREET IN THE NORTHERN RESIDENTIAL AREA.

NUMBER TWO. SO THEY ARE, LIKE I SAID, PROPOSING A DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY REQUESTED FOR A REGIONAL BANK THAT WILL SERVE AS THE ANCHOR TENANT FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING.

THE DRIVE THROUGH CANOPY WILL ALSO SERVE AS A FULLY FURNISHED OUTDOOR PATIO ON THE SECOND LEVEL OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.

FINANCE, INSURANCE AND REAL ESTATE ESTABLISHMENTS ARE PERMITTED WITH NO DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY IS THE STANDARD.

GASOLINE SERVICE STATIONS ARE EXCLUDED AS A PERMITTED USE FOR SEC STANDARDS.

THEY ARE WANTING TO INCLUDE A GAS STATION AS AN ALLOWED USE.

THE SEC COMMERCIAL CORE ACCESSORY BUILDINGS ARE PERMITTED WITH AN SEP.

THEY ARE PROPOSING UP TO THREE KIOSKS IN THE PARK AREA.

PERMITS A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IN THE SEC OF FIVE STORIES, OR UP TO SIX STORIES AT THE DEDICATED OPEN SPACE EXCEEDS 15% AND OR THERE IS SIGNIFICANT PRESERVATION OF TREE STANDS. THEY ARE PROPOSING A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 90FT FOR BUILDINGS CLOSEST TO STATE HIGHWAY ONE, 14 AND 100FT FOR HOTEL USE. THAT IS PROPOSED AND THEN TREE PRESERVATION LANDSCAPE PLANS AS PRESENTED.

THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCES TO THE DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER SIX THREE FOR STACKING DEPTH VARIANTS WHERE A MINIMUM 100FT IS REQUIRED.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE ARE THREE AREAS AROUND THE PROPERTY THAT DO NOT MEET THE 100FT.

SO THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCES FOR THOSE. AND THEN JUST SOME FURTHER CLARIFICATION.

NEEDED BY THE APPLICANT THAT WE PROVIDED HERE BUILDING ONE NOT IDENTIFIED, FORMALLY SHOWN AS A HOTEL.

AMENITIES AND HOTEL TYPE NOT PROVIDED. THE THREE KIOSKS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING BE PERMITTED, BUT THE LOCATION HAS NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. MAX.

BUILDING HEIGHT AND FEET FOR RESIDENTIAL HAS NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED.

35FT IS TYPICAL FOR THAT. BUILDINGS ONE AND 13 HAVE NOT INCLUDED ALL INFORMATION NEEDED FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL.

AS PART OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR SITE PLAN, APPROVAL WILL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO OBTAINING A BUILDING PERMIT, AND THEN DIFFERENTIATE THE PRIVATE DRIVE FROM THE ROUNDABOUT SO DOES NOT RESEMBLE A PUBLIC STREET.

AND THEN HERE IS A STREET VIEW LOOKING WEST FROM NORTH WHITECHAPEL OF THE PROPERTY.

STREET VIEW FROM WEST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD LOOKING SOUTH, AND A STREET VIEW FROM STATE HIGHWAY 114 LOOKING EAST.

SO WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES WITHIN THAT 300 FOOT BUFFER.

BUT WE DID RECEIVE FOUR RESPONSES IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

OUTSIDE THE 300 FOOT BUFFER. THEN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IN THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION TO.

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THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN TYPICALLY IDENTIFIES ALL THE HORIZONTAL HORIZONTAL PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS.

BASICALLY A BASIC BUILDING PAD DRIVES PARKING, OTHER ACCESS PROVIDED ON THE PLAN.

WHAT THEY ARE ASKING, AND THAT'S THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER DISTRICT.

THEY HAVE PROVIDED A DEVELOPMENT AND SLASH SITE PLAN, WHICH PROVIDES ALL THE NECESSARY SITE PLAN INFORMATION FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT BEING PRESENTED AND PROPOSED ON THE PLAN.

FOR THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BUILDINGS ONE AND 13, IF APPROVED TO GET BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE HORIZONTAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SITE ON THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, THEY WOULD SIMPLY GO TO BUILDING PERMIT FOR LOTS ONE AND 13. THEY WOULD NEED TO RETURN FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC SIZE AND AND THEN BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR THOSE TWO BUILDING PAD SITES.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON TONIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NOPE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WHO'S HERE FROM? THE APPLICANT WANTS TO WALK THROUGH THIS ONE.

HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING THIS EVENING? I KNOW WE'VE SEEN YOU A COUPLE TIMES AT CORRIDOR COMMITTEE, SO YOU PROBABLY KNOW THE DRILL BY THIS POINT.

IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THIS AND MAYBE WHAT WE'LL DO.

DOCTOR SPRINGER, TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK. I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AND WE IDENTIFY THE PARTICULAR AREAS, IF YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS, LET'S STOP AND ASK AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT HERE, AND WE'RE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE TYPICALLY WOULD VOTE ON IN TERMS OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO IF YOU GUYS ARE GOOD WITH THAT, WE MIGHT INTERRUPT YOU HERE AND THERE.

YEAH. BLAKE BICKMORE FROM REPRESENTING TRADEMARK.

17 ON RIVER ROAD IN FORT WORTH. YEAH, I'M TERRY MONTESI WITH TRADEMARK PROPERTY COMPANY.

2108 BRADFORD PARK COURT, FORT WORTH. YEAH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

WE ARE EXCITED TO BRING A REALLY HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT TO SOUTH LAKE.

LET'S SEE. PAGE DOWN. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO BREEZE THROUGH.

COMPANY RELATED STUFF. BUT WE'VE BEEN AROUND 33 YEARS.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF VERY HIGH QUALITY WORK WITH A LOT OF VERY HIGH QUALITY PARTNERS.

YOU'LL SEE A FEW OF THE PICTURES. THIS IS OUR CURRENT PORTFOLIO.

YOU SEE, LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE OPERATE THE GALLERY AND WE REDEVELOP IN THE GALLERY OF DALLAS.

WE OPERATE MIXED USE AND RETAIL PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, PRIMARILY IN THE SOUTHEAST.

PLACEMAKING CENTRIC, HIGH QUALITY PROPERTIES WE HAVE OUR PORTFOLIO IS, LIKE I SAID, PRIMARILY SUNBELT CENTRIC, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND OUR TRACK RECORD, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF COMMUNITY CENTERS, MIXED USE LIFESTYLE AND GROCERY ANCHORED LIKE THIS ONE WILL BE SORT OF A COMBINATION COMMUNITY CENTER, LIFESTYLE GROCERY ANCHORED CENTER, MIXED USE.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF A LOT OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

I'LL START AT THE BOTTOM 16 SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

AND THIS IS SCHEDULED TO BE ONE OF THOSE AND A LOT OF GROUND UP DEVELOPMENT.

AND YOU SEE ALL BUNCH OF THOSE ON THE RIGHT. EVERYTHING, EVERY PICTURE IS ONE OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS.

BLAKE. SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF TRADEMARK, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, PUT A FACE TO THE NAME OF WHO'S PRESENTING THIS PROJECT.

AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO NEXT WAS REALLY JUST KIND OF TAKE YOU THROUGH THE THE EVOLUTION OF THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR OVER A YEAR NOW. AND REALLY, THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS JUST TO SHOW THAT WE'VE BEEN LISTENING AND TAKING AND INCORPORATING FEEDBACK,

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WE'VE REALLY ENJOYED OUR TIME GETTING TO KNOW MANY PEOPLE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY WANT, AND WE FEEL THAT WHAT WE'RE DELIVERING HERE MEETS A LOT OF THAT.

SO WE FIRST TOOK THIS TO CORRIDOR COMMITTEE LAST YEAR, MARCH 2024.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS REVIEWED THEN.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT OF WHY THIS SITE PLAN LOOKS LIKE IT DOES.

WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK ON THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT.

SO THE GROCERY ANCHORED PORTION, THE RETAIL, THE OFFICE, A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK HAS REALLY BEEN AROUND THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT. AND SO THIS SITE PLAN SPECIFICALLY, YOU'LL NOTICE THE TOWNHOMES, THERE'S 65 TOWNHOMES HERE.

THERE'S 18 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS TO THE NORTH OF THAT.

THE TOWNHOMES WERE INITIALLY ON HERE, JUST RESPONDING TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, WHICH HAS, YOU KNOW, TOWNHOMES BASICALLY AS A AS A REPRESENTATIVE TYPE OF USE THAT YOU WOULD PUT WITHIN THIS TYPE OF ZONING.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT WAS ON HERE WHEN WE TOOK IT TO CORRIDOR.

THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM CORRIDOR AND FROM RESIDENTS WAS THAT TYPE OF DENSITY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PART OF THE FUTURE CONSOLIDATED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, THAT'S NOT THE TYPE OF DENSITY THAT PEOPLE WANTED HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, FAST FORWARD A YEAR THIS LAST QUARTER, JUNE REALLY THE BULK OF THIS YEAR WE'VE SPENT TALKING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. WE'VE HAD NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WE'VE MET WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TO HEAR WHAT THEY'RE HEARING FROM SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN WE'VE PROVIDED OPTIONS HERE ON THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN PARTICULAR.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FAR LEFT ONE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, 47 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, YOU KNOW, .188 ACRE LOT SIZE THAT EFFECTIVELY WAS LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET AND AT THAT SINGLE FAMILY DENSITY AND SAYING, LET'S CARRY THAT THROUGH FROM A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT AND ALSO JUST FROM A COHESIVE ENVIRONMENT AT THIS, AT THIS INTERSECTION. THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM THAT WAS THAT THAT TYPE OF DENSITY WAS ALSO NOT WANTED.

AND SO WE CONTINUED TO ITERATE ON THE SITE PLAN.

THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE ACTUALLY WAS THE RESULT OF A CONVERSATION WITH SOME THE HOA CARILLION AND THEN ALSO SOME CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT MAYBE WE LOOK AT A ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY HERE, PROVIDE AN EMPTY NESTER TYPE OF COMMUNITY.

AND SO THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO THAT. AND SO WE GOT FEEDBACK ON THAT AND CORRIDOR AND SPIN AND ACTUALLY GOT REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS MAYBE IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT. I THINK OTHER PEOPLE ON THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE IN PARTICULAR SAID THAT'S MAYBE NOT WHAT WE WANT.

AND SO WE LOOKED AT A, YOU KNOW, THE FAR RIGHT SITE PLAN THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE IS ESSENTIALLY RESPONDING TO THEY WANT INCREASED LOT SIZES. AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE INCREASED THOSE THOSE LOTS TO ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF A QUARTER ACRE.

AND THEN THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM CORRIDOR COMMITTEE IS WHAT YOUR, THE SITE PLAN IS, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. AND THIS IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT. ONE OF THE MAIN PIECES OF FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM RESIDENTS IN THE METAIRIE WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER ADDING OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT.

AND SO THIS IS EFFECTIVELY A RESPONSE TO THAT.

SO YOU'LL SEE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE WE ADDED THAT OPEN SPACE.

AND YOU SAW THE RENDERING OF THAT. AND SO THE POINT OF GOING THROUGH ALL OF THAT, AND WHY WE WANTED TO DO THAT WAS JUST JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT WE'VE BEEN RESPONDING TO THE FEEDBACK AND WE'RE WE'RE EXCITED WITH THIS, WITH THIS SITE PLAN.

AND HONESTLY, I THINK WE'D PROBABLY JUST CONCLUDE WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE NATIONAL ORGANIC GROCER THAT WE'VE WE HAVE AN ACTUAL EXECUTED LEASE WITH IT DOES PLAY INTO THEIR CALCULUS WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE VIABILITY OF A SITE OF WHAT THE DENSITY OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE IN THEIR PROXIMITY.

AND SO THE SINGLE FAMILY PORTION OF THIS PROJECT IS CRITICAL TO THE SITE PLAN.

AND I THINK THEY, THEY HAVE CONVICTION FOR THIS SITE BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY HERE THAT WE'RE BRINGING AND THE DENSITY THAT'S AROUND IT.

IT'S ALREADY A LOW DENSITY ENVIRONMENT. AND SO ADDING THE 40 LOTS THAT WE'RE ADDING IS IT DOES IT DOES FACTOR IN INTO THEIR DECISION.

AND I THINK ANOTHER PIECE OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST YEAR IS JUST A CONCERN OF WHAT'S THE TIMING OF THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS PROJECT. AND WHEN IS THAT GOING TO ACTUALLY BREAK GROUND?

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WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC DELIVERY DATES. AND SO IT IS OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY.

WE WE ARE OBLIGATED TO START THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS PROJECT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO WE'RE HIGHLY MOTIVATED TO TO GET THAT PART OF THE PROJECT GOING.

AND THEN I'D SAY FROM THE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN ON THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS PROJECT SAVE AS MANY TREES AS YOU CAN.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ACTUALLY THE LANDOWNER HERE TO IDENTIFY A GROVE OF TREES THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY BUILD AROUND, WHICH IS IN THE, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT CLUSTER DOWN HERE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE MOUSE RIGHT HERE.

LARGE LEGACY TREES. YEAH. LARGE LEGACY TREES THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, REPLYING THE SITE AROUND THOSE TREES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY.

I'D ALSO SAY THAT ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE'VE BEEN ADDRESSING OVER THE LAST YEAR IS JUST SCREENING PARKING ON 114.

AND SO THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS THAT WE'RE ADDING THAT THAT SCREEN.

SO IT'S JUST NOT A SEA OF PARKING. RIGHT OFF 114 AND AND PUTTING THE THE POND RIGHT HERE AND MONETIZING THAT I THINK HELPS THAT AS WELL.

SO IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE YOU JUST GOT TO SEE A PARKING RIGHT OFF, RIGHT OFF THE, THE FREEWAY.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LASTLY, FROM A RETAIL STANDPOINT WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY PARTICULAR ABOUT THE TYPE OF USERS THAT WE WANT TO BRING TO THIS LOCATION. ALL OF THE RETAIL USERS THAT WE'RE TALKING TO, INCLUDING THE GROCER, THIS WOULD BE A WELL, MAYBE NOT THE GROCER, BUT THE RETAIL AND THE RESTAURANTS.

THIS IS THE FIRST LOCATION IN TARRANT COUNTY FOR THEM. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THOSE TO THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS WILL SOLIDIFY THIS THIS INTERSECTION, THIS CORNER, AS A PLACE IN SOUTHLAKE WHERE RESIDENTS HAVE WALKABILITY TO REALLY HIGHLY CURATED AMENITIES. A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. ONE, THE OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S ON THERE.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT'S RESPONSIVE TO CITY COMMENTARY.

PEOPLE SAY WE REALLY WANT MIXED USE. WE REALLY WANT AS MUCH DENSITY AS POSSIBLE, SHARED PARKING, ETC.. SO WE'RE WE'RE COMMITTED TO BUILD THAT OFFICE BUILDING FROM FROM ENCOURAGEMENT AND LISTENING TO FOLKS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, AND THE RESTAURANTS THAT WE'RE GETTING AND SURROUNDING THAT PUBLIC SPACE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY COOL PUBLIC SPACE.

AND THE RESTAURANTS ARE SUPER EXCITED. AND THE QUALITY OF THAT RESTAURANT COLLECTION IS IS AS GOOD AS WHAT'S HERE OR BETTER.

IT'S JUST VERY DIFFERENT. AND A LOT OF FAMILY FRIENDLY.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE CASUAL, FAMILY FRIENDLY. AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT DEVELOPMENT.

WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WITH THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO PRESENT.

AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN TAKE THEM THERE. I THINK A LOT OF THE SPECIFIC TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, WE ALSO HAVE OUR CONSULTANTS HERE WITH US THAT CAN HELP US OUT WITH THIS AS WELL.

YEAH. OKAY. WE HAVE OUR CIVIL AND AND OUR LAND USE CONSULTANT WHO YOU'VE SEEN A FEW TIMES TONIGHT.

OKAY COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOU SAID SOMETHING EARLIER, AND I WAS BUSY LOOKING DOWN.

FIRST. SOMETHING IN TARRANT COUNTY. WHAT DID YOU SAY EARLIER? YEAH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THE RESTAURANTS AND SOME OF THE RETAILERS THAT ARE ACTIVELY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TALKING WITH ACTIVELY.

THIS WOULD BE THEIR FIRST UNIT IN TARRANT COUNTY.

THEY'RE NOT IN FORT WORTH. NOT IN SOUTHLAKE YET.

OKAY. NOT THE GROCER, THOUGH. NO. THE GROCER.

THE NATIONAL ORGANIC GROCER WHO TOLD US WE CAN'T USE THEIR NAME.

AND YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY PRETTY CREATIVE AND CAN FIGURE IT OUT.

THEY ARE NOT IN THEY'RE NOT IN SOUTHLAKE. YEAH.

OKAY. IS THERE DENNIS, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS? I THINK UNLESS YOU GUYS DISAGREE, I THINK WE SHOULD GO MAYBE LOT BY LOT.

AND MAYBE WE START OUT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND LET'S ASK QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THAT, IF WE COULD. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BETTER TO DO IT WITH STAFF'S PRESENTATION OR WHAT'S THE BETTER WAY TO GO.

YEAH. WE CAN CYCLE BACK THROUGH EACH OF THOSE SLIDES AND FOCUS IN ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THEM FOR, AND THEN MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. I THINK WE START OUT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK.

AS YOU ALLUDED TO EARLIER OVER THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD, UNFORTUNATELY I THINK EVERYBODY UP HERE, MAYBE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DOCTOR SPRINGER, WAS AT THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

YEAH. SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY UP HERE AND, AND SO MAYBE WE GO THROUGH THE THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION FIRST.

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THERE YOU GO. SO QUESTIONS I KNOW AT CORRIDOR WE TALKED ABOUT ENTRANCES ACCESS, INGRESS, EGRESS AS FAR AS LINING UP WITH CAROLINE AND KIND OF HOW THIS MESSAGE MESHES WITH IS IT METAIRIE.

THAT'S TO THE NORTH CURTIS KIND OF WALK US THROUGH WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

AS FAR AS WHITECHAPEL AND AND THEN METAIRIE. WELL, BETWEEN HERE IS THE KIRKWOOD RIGHT OF WAY.

AND OF COURSE, IT LINES UP EXACTLY WITH KIRKWOOD.

IS IT ACROSS THE STREET WHEN IT GOES THROUGH CARROLLTON? AND LOT FIVE TO THE BOTTOM IS DIRECTLY OPPOSITE THE CARROLLTON PARK, WHICH IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE 5600 SQUARE FOOT LOTS WITH ALLEYS THAT BLAKE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE CONSIDERED AT ONE POINT IN THIS, THE LOT FOUR IS THE NORTHERN LOT, AND WE MADE SURE.

AND WE'RE CAREFUL THERE, THAT THAT WAS AT LEAST THE SIZE OF THE ADJACENT METAIRIE LOTS THERE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WAS ONE SUGGESTION ALONG THE WAY THAT WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A COUPLE OF THEM A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SIZE TO HAVE A LITTLE VARIETY, ESPECIALLY AT THE ENTRY AS YOU KIND OF DRIVE IN.

SO ONE OF THOSE LOTS ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY THERE OPPOSITE THE ENTRY IS A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN THE OTHERS, BUT THEY'RE ALL LARGER. YOU CAN SEE THE LOT LINES OF THE METAIRIE LOTS JUST FADING OFF TO THE TOP THERE.

SO THEY'RE ALL LARGER THAN THAT. ONE OF THE INPUTS WE GOT FROM THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE WAS REGARDING THE METAIRIE LOTS, WAS THAT THEY FELT THAT THE SIDE SETBACKS WERE WERE TOO LITTLE, AND WE OUGHT TO INCREASE THOSE.

SO WE'VE INCREASED THOSE 60% ON THESE LOTS FROM 5FT TO 8FT ON THAT.

BUT I THINK THIS IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE METAIRIE.

AND THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE FOLKS IN METAIRIE.

AND I THINK FOR THE MOST PART THEY'RE THEY'RE ON BOARD.

MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT WOULD BE ON LOTS FOUR AND FIVE.

AS YOU ALL HAVE OBSERVED AT COUNCIL, THINGS ARE CHANGING A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO THE DENSITY COULD BE AN ISSUE THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU HAVE ALTERNATES WITH FEWER LOTS IN BOTH LOTS FOUR AND FIVE, BUT I SUSPECT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT. AND IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I MEAN, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT. AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I WANTED TO TAKE THIS FIRST, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF YOUR FEEDBACK AND YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M REFERRING TO, BECAUSE YOU KIND OF HAD TO BLEND IT ACROSS CARROLL AVENUE THERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT OR MAYBE ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON LOTS FOUR AND FIVE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? YEAH, PLEASE. SO I BECAUSE THIS IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

AND I THINK IT WILL BE A NICE ONE. I'M, I'M UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE NEED A RESIDENTIAL ELEMENT HERE AND THAT, THAT IT'S PROBABLY SHOULD BE SMALLER LOTS SO THAT IT BLENDS INTO THE COMMERCIAL AND WHATNOT.

WHAT I'M REALLY, REALLY OPPOSED TO, THOUGH, ARE SOME OF THE BUILDABLE LIMITS ON THESE LOTS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE WHEN YOU SAY A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEN YOU SAY 8300 SQUARE FOOT LOT.

I, I WOULD LOOK IN LOT FIVE FOR AN ABSOLUTE DEAD MINIMUM OF 10,000FT².

SO THAT IT'S 80 FOOT FRONTAGE AND 120 FOOT, 125 FOOT DEEP.

THE EIGHT FOOT SETBACKS ON EITHER SIDE ARE FINE.

FRONT YARD OF 25FT AND A REAR YARD OF 30FT. THESE LOTS ARE GETTING BUILT IN.

SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE 15 AND 20 FOOT BACKYARDS ARE OBSCENE, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT IN SOUTHLAKE.

SO THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. LIKEWISE, ON THE NORTH SIDE, THOSE LOTS ARE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

YOU YOU DO HAVE AN AVERAGE SIZE OF 12,000 AND YOUR SMALLEST IS TEN 4 TO 10 FIVE.

BUT THE SAME THING EIGHT FOOT ON EITHER SIDE, 25 ON THE FRONT.

SO THAT'S CONSISTENT. BUT 30 YARD FOOT YARDS IN THE BACK SO THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR A POOL AND FOR KIDS TO PLAY AND WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE.

BUT TAKE AWAY THE RIGHT OF BUILDERS TO COVER UP THE ENTIRE BUILDABLE AREA AND LOSE YARD SPACE.

THAT'S SOMETHING I'M VERY, VERY OPPOSED TO. IT LOOKS LIKE EITHER OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS COULD HAVE A GATED ENTRY.

YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD US TALK ABOUT GATED ENTRIES. WE'RE NOT FOR GATED ENTRIES.

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THAT NEEDS TO BE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC. BUT SO JUST TO REITERATE, FRONTAGE FOOT A MINIMUM OF 80FT, MINIMUM SIZE OF 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, NOT 8300FT.

AND THEN THE SETBACK SO THAT YOU HAVE SOME ACTUAL USABLE LOT LEFT AFTER YOU'VE BUILT A HOME ON IT, 30 FOOT IN THE REAR, 25IN THE FRONT, EIGHT FOOT ON THE SIDE.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR.

TRAVIS FRANKS, WILLOW TREE 680 NORTH CARROLL, AS WELL AS 775 LAKEWOOD AND SOUTHLAKE.

I'M GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A HYPE GUY, BUT ALSO ANSWER AND REITERATE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THE LOT COVERAGE WE PROPOSE ON THIS PARTICULAR PLAN IS ABOUT 40 IS 40%.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE GET FEEDBACK ON IS THE BUILDER AS WELL, IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WE LOOKED AT METAIRIE AND SAW FROM A ROOFTOP.

IT'S BASICALLY ONE SIDE TO ANOTHER ON THE ON THE LOT LINES AND YOU DON'T SEE ANY GRASS.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND TRYING TO SHOW IN SOME OF THE RENDERINGS IS TO SHOW THERE'S A LOT OF GREEN SPACE ON EVERY SINGLE LOT.

SO WE DO WANT TO INCREASE THE SETBACKS SO WE CAN NOT HAVE THOSE COVERAGES BY THE HOMES AND DO HAVE A LOT MORE VISIBLE GREEN SPACE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBOR.

SO REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE LOT, IF IT'S 10,000 SQUARE FOOT THAT IT REALLY SEEMS AND LOOKS AND FEELS ALMOST LIKE A HALF ACRE BECAUSE OF THE SPACING BETWEEN YOUR NEIGHBORS.

SO TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH EVEN ON A SMALLER FOOTPRINT OF THAT LOT.

THE, THE SPACING AND THE SPACING AROUND EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT WILL BE FAR MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING FROM THE NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. WE DO, JUST TO REITERATE THE QUALITY THAT THE TRADEMARK'S BRINGING, WHICH WE KNOW THAT TRADEMARK IS AS A CORPORATION HAS DONE, EVERYTHING IS AT A HIGH LEVEL.

WE WANT TO MIMIC THAT ON THE RESIDENTIAL BUILD SIDE.

SO THERE'S THIS WILL NOT BE A PRODUCTION HOME BUILDING OR A SEMI PRODUCTION HOME BUILDER.

THIS WILL BE FOR LUXURY HOME BUILDERS THAT ARE ALL LOCAL.

SO YOU GUYS NAMES THAT YOU WILL BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT WILL BE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND THEN FROM THE LANDSCAPING PIECES, EVEN ON THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE RIGHT OF WAYS, ON THE, ON THE MEDIANS AND INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT MORE MATURE LANDSCAPING THAN WHAT WE SEE SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENTS DO AND GET AWAY WITH.

SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT TWIGS IN THERE AND HOPE THEY GROW 20 YEARS LATER.

WE WANT MORE. INSTANT MATURITY FOR THE LANDSCAPING.

SO, YOU KNOW, FROM THE RENDERING SIDE, IT KIND OF SHOWS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.

AND I WILL SAY, AND I APPRECIATE THE SIZES BECAUSE, AGAIN, I THINK WE ARE AN AGING COMMUNITY AND I THINK WE'RE AGING RAPIDLY FROM 20, 25 YEARS AGO. MOST OF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AS AS WELL AS I HAVE.

AND, AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT WE NEED A VARIETY OF OPTIONS.

LOT SIZE OPTIONS IN THIS TOWN. AND I UNDERSTAND THE, THE THERE'S SOME SOME INTENSENESS OF DENSITY IN THIS TOWN AS WELL.

I GOT STILL PULLING OUT SOME DAGGERS ON MY PREVIOUS REQUEST, AND BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE OUT OF OUR OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT GOT APPROVED WE ARE PROBABLY 65% SOLD OUT WITHOUT ANY MARKETING OF THAT PRODUCT LINE.

AND I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS A FAR NUMBER OF REQUESTS THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIND YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CHAPTERS OF LIFE, SMALLER LOTS, AND EVEN SECOND HOME YOUNG FAMILIES TRYING TO FIND SMALLER LOTS JUST TO GET INTO SOUTHLAKE.

AND I THINK THIS THIS ANSWERS THE QUESTION FOR BOTH.

SO HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT FROM START TO FINISH ON THE RESIDENTIAL.

WITH THAT CONSIDERATION EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID. SO TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK, DOCTOR SPRINGER.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE LUCKY ONE TONIGHT THAT GETS TO DO THE MOTION.

DO YOU NEED COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM TO HIT ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT OR.

I DIDN'T CATCH ALL OF IT. I'LL JUST READ BACK WHAT I GOT HERE.

GOT THE EIGHT FOOT SIDE YARDS, 25 FOOT SETBACK ON THE FRONT, 30 FOOT ON THE BACK AND 80 FOOT WIDTH.

80 FOOT WIDTH. AND THEN WE MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE TALKING 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS ON THE SOUTH, THAT WE HAVE 10,000 FOOT LOTS, NOT 8300 FOOT LOTS.

SO, SO IF THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO LOSE A LOT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY, BUT BUT WE'RE I'M, I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING LESS THAN 10,000 SQUARE FOOT.

WE'D HAVE TO LOSE SEVERAL. BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT AT WORK.

DID YOU GUYS LOOK AT ANY OTHER OPTIONS ON OPEN SPACE OR GREEN SPACE ON THESE TWO LOTS? JUST CURIOUS. YEAH. WELL, WE STARTED WITHOUT ANY RIGHT CENTRAL OPEN SPACE PART.

AND BASED UPON THE INPUT WE GOT, WE ADDED A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL PARK AREA IN THE SOUTH THERE.

AND SO. YEAH, LOOK, LOOK AT THE BUDGET. YEAH.

LAYOUTS. BUT THIS IS THE ONE. YEAH. THING THAT MADE THE MOST IMPACT.

THE MOST LOTS AND THE LARGEST OPPORTUNITY FOR GREEN SPACE.

THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL AMENITIES IN THAT OPEN SPACE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT NECESSARILY A PARK IN THERE, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS A VERY LARGE SPACE WITH GOING TO BE SOME BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPING IN.

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ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON LOTS FOUR AND FIVE? NO.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO. WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO GO TO NEXT? IT'S UP TO YOU. WHY DON'T WE GO DOWN AND AND START ON THE BOTTOM JUST SOUTH OF LOT FIVE AND KIND OF WORK OUR WAY AROUND? YEAH. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, SO ON THIS ONE I KNOW THAT THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS AT CORRIDOR ABOUT THE ACCESS AND IN MY RECALLING CORRECTLY THAT THERE'S A VARIANCE NEEDED THERE ON THE AT NUMBER FOUR ON THE ENTRANCE OR. YEAH. YES, SIR. THERE THE VARIANCES HAS TO DO WITH THE THE STACKING DEPTH OFF OF WHITECHAPEL FOR CARS EXITING THE DEVELOPMENT. IT ACTUALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT.

IT HAS TO DO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOUTH. YOU CAN SEE JUST BELOW THE THE DIMENSION THAT SAYS 54 ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

THAT IS THEIR DRIVEWAY GOING SOUTH. SO THE STACKING DISTANCE FROM WHITECHAPEL TO OUR FIRST DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF THE 13, IT MEETS THE STANDARDS. IT'S THE DRIVEWAY TO THE SOUTH THAT DOES NOT MEET.

AND IT'S A SHARED ACCESS DRIVE, BECAUSE THE MEDIAN OPENING LOCATION THAT WAS SET BY CARILLION AND THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT ON WHITECHAPEL.

SO WE'RE RESPONDING TO WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. RIGHT.

DO ME A FAVOR. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. PEYTON MCGEE.

9641 ANGLE RIDGE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. OKAY. AND, DENNIS, THAT'S THE LAMBERT HOME PROPERTY.

THAT IS CORRECT. YES. OKAY. THOUGHTS ON LOT THREE HERE? WELL, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE STUCK WITH THE DRIVEWAY LOCATION, THERE'S NOT MUCH THEY CAN DO ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS SPACING GOES.

THAT'S MY OPINION. AND WE HAVE IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE HAVE INTEREST FROM SOME REALLY HIGH QUALITY RESTAURANTS AND STEAKHOUSES, AND SOME FOLKS WANT PADS. WE HEARD FROM EARLY MEETINGS, WE DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF PADS ON THE FREEWAY.

AND THIS IS REALLY ONE ONLY PADS WE HAVE IN THE WHOLE PROJECT.

AND IT IT'S SO REMOVED THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT LITTLE FINGER, IT JUST WORKS REALLY WELL.

WE THINK IT'S A GREAT LAND USE FOR THAT. I HAVE A QUESTION I WOULD ADD IS THE, THE THE REASON WHY IT IS NOT IN FRONT OF THE MIC, THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS WITH A DETAILED SITE PLAN IS BECAUSE THERE'S STILL MULTIPLE USERS IN PLACE, SO WE CAN'T COMMIT TO A FACADE AT THIS TIME, OR THE EXACT DIMENSIONS OF THE BILL OR THE DIMENSIONS OF THE BUILDING.

SURE. I HAVE A QUESTION ON YOUR OVERALL PLAN, OR I GUESS ON SPECIFICALLY ON THIS LOT, BUT, YOU'RE OVER PARKING IT BY A DECENT AMOUNT. I THINK ABOUT 10%.

IS THERE A REASON JUST BASED ON THE REQUIRED PARKING OR PARKING IT? SO IS THAT JUST MARKET? YEAH. IT'S ARRIVED. AND RESTAURANTS REALLY NOWADAYS REALLY WANT THEY WANT TO DRIVE A LOT OF PARKING AND YOU KNOW IT'S NOT IT'S OVER PARKED ACCORDING TO SOME THINGS TO THEM.

IT'S NOT OVER PARKED. IT'S MARKET RESPONSE TO THE MARKET.

OKAY. AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS YOU GUYS WERE I THINK YOU WERE ASKING FOR POTENTIAL GAS STATION AS PART OF A USE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE THAT WOULD BE PLACED OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? NO, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK FOR THE GAS STATION.

THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD EARLIER THIS YEAR AS A SUGGESTION TO PUT ON THERE BECAUSE OF SOMEBODY THEY WANTED THAT GAS STATION THERE. AND SO WE DECIDED TO RESPOND TO THAT AND SEE IF THERE WAS INTEREST TO PUT THAT THERE.

YEAH, I AGAIN, I VIEW THIS AS COLLABORATIVE. SO SUPER TRANSPARENT WHERE THE HOTEL IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FAR TOP LEFT ON THIS DIAGRAM ON THE BOTTOM.

YOU KNOW, IF A HOTEL DOESN'T GO THERE, YOU KNOW, WOULD WOULD Y'ALL BE OKAY WITH A REALLY NICE GAS STATION? IF YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE GAS STATION SOMEWHERE, IF EVERYBODY DOESN'T WANT IT, IT'S OKAY.

IF Y'ALL THINK YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S NOT A BAD PLACE FOR A GAS STATION.

THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'LL WE'LL MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY.

SO TRYING TO BE COLLABORATIVE AND OPEN. OKAY.

THANK YOU. DOCTOR SPRINGER WHAT DO YOU GOT? I WANT TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND THAT'S OFFENSIVE.

THEN YOU KNOW PLEASE DO SO. LIKE I SAID, TRYING TO COLLABORATE WITH Y'ALL.

I'M NOT FOR A GAS STATION. I MEAN, THE LAST THING WE NEED IN THIS TOWN IS BANKS AND GAS STATIONS.

SO I'M. I'M FULLY ON BOARD WITH NO GAS STATION.

PLUS I DRIVE AN ELECTRIC CAR. WELL, THEN WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO APPROVE IT AND AND TAKE THE GAS STATION OFF.

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NO, WE'LL HIT THAT IN A MINUTE. ONE THING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST AND IT MAY BE IN THE STAFF PLAN, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE THAT LAMBERT HOME DEVELOPMENT.

KIND OF AN AERIAL VIEW. SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THIS ALL MESHES TOGETHER.

THE ONE THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF YOU, THAT'S GOING TO CONNECT THERE, NOT BECAUSE OF THE ROADWAY, BUT JUST BECAUSE OF BOTH DEVELOPMENTS TOGETHER.

AND I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO KIND OF SEE HOW THOSE PLAY OFF OF EACH OTHER.

I KNOW THAT THAT THING TOOK SOME MASSAGING AND TURNED IT INTO A PRETTY GOOD PRODUCT AS WELL.

AND SO I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO SEE KIND OF HOW ALL THIS MESHES TOGETHER AS YOU'RE ALONG 114 AND ALSO UP WHITECHAPEL.

GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE IF WE COULD.

SO THIS IS ALSO PART OF LOT THREE. WHAT DO YOU ALL HAVE THOUGHT WISE HERE? I JUST HAD A QUESTION. AND THIS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN WHERE THE KIOSKS.

WAS THAT ON A DIFFERENT LOT? I'M SORRY. WERE THERE MENTION OF KIOSKS? YEAH. YEAH. THE THE KIOSKS SPECIFICALLY ARE NOT ON THIS PLAN.

IT'S MORE OF JUST A USE TO PUT. IF WE DID, IT WOULD BE ON THE PRIVATE PARK AREA.

OKAY. I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB ON YOUR DESIGN WORK, YOUR LAYOUT, EVERYTHING. I MEAN, I THINK YOU'VE THOUGHT IT OUT VERY, VERY WELL.

SO ON THE, THE RETAIL COMPONENT YOU KNOW, TWO AND THREE, WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING THOSE LOTS I THINK WELL DONE.

I THINK WE CAN GET SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES PULLED TOGETHER.

THEN I THINK YOU'VE GOT A WINNER. SO IS THERE ANY KIND OF AN ELEVATION CHANGE OR BERM THERE ALONG THE ACCESS ROAD ON 114 BETWEEN THE ACCESS ROAD AND THE PARKING? SO NO. FOR THE MOST PART, IT IS A RELATIVELY FLAT PIECE OF PROPERTY UNTIL YOU GET BASICALLY TO THE CENTER OF THE ROUNDABOUT. THAT'S THE ONLY PIECE THAT'S UP HIGH.

THE THE RESPONSE THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A GENEROUS LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG 114 THAT WERE HEAVILY PLANTING.

AND THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY TO DO MODERATE BERMS LIKE 2 OR 3FT TO, TO CREATE A LANDSCAPE EDGE THERE.

OKAY. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A NATURAL PART OF THE PLAN.

WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED ANY SORT OF DETAILS, BUT.

YES, SIR. SURE. AND I JUST BRING IT UP BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED AT CORRIDOR THAT WE GENERALLY DON'T LIKE PARKING ALONG THE.

YEAH, THE HIGHWAY THERE. IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE WITH SOME REASONABLE BURNING I'VE.

WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY, SO I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT.

WELL, JUST TO BE CLEAR DENNIS, THE LANDSCAPE PACKAGE AND THE THE BERMING WOULD BE PART OF THE LANDSCAPING PACKAGE, RIGHT LATER. THAT IS, IT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED BY THIS ACTION THIS EVENING.

THEY'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND THEN THE PLANTING PALETTE OF MATERIALS TO CHOOSE FROM AS PART OF THE ZONING THIS EVENING. SO IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO HAVE BERMING OR SOME OTHER ELEMENT THAT'S NOT REPRESENTED, YOU WOULD NEED TO ADD THAT IN A IN A MOTION. I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT YOU MIGHT SAY SCREENING AND BERMING, YOU KNOW, COMBINATION. I WOULDN'T I DON'T LIKE ALL THE ONE THING, BUT LIKE SOME WOULD BE GREEN SCREENS AND SOME BERMS. I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT. SO WE PLAN TO DO THAT ANYWAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS AREA OF LOT THREE? ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. SO WE'RE LOOKING HERE AT LOT TWO, WHICH HAS THE GROCERY STORE AND A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS AND THE POND UP BY 114 AND SOME SHOP SPACE.

NUMBER FIVE. I'M SORRY. YES. SHOP SPACE. AND I THINK ONE THING TO POINT OUT, BECAUSE WE'RE INTO THE DETAILS AND Y'ALL ARE TOO, I KNOW, IS THAT THE WAY WE'VE CURVED AND SPLIT THE BUILDING NUMBER FIVE SO IT JUST WON'T LOOK LIKE A STRIP CENTER? I HATE STRIP CENTERS. AND SO WE TRY TO DO A LOT TO MAKE IT.

LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SEEN THE ELEVATION AND WE CAN PULL IT BACK UP. BUT TO MAKE IT LOOK INTERESTING AND SOMETHING YOU'D BE PROUD OF.

COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS HERE? WELL, LIKE I SAID, I THINK WHAT THEY I THINK WHAT THEY'VE PRESENTED HAS BEEN IS VERY THOROUGH.

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AND WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING WITH THIS PROPOSAL AS OPPOSED TO JUST A BARE SITE PLAN.

SO I REALLY, I THINK FROM A RETAIL AND THE RETAIL AND BUSINESS ASPECTS OF IT, THEY, THEY, THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN DO. I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHAT IS THAT? PARKING ON THE VERY EAST SIDE. LOOKS LIKE YOU SEE A BUILDING FOUR AND FIVE.

AND THEN IS THAT GREEN SPACE BEHIND THE BUILDINGS AND THEN SOME PARKING.

SO THE BEHIND FOUR AND FIVE IS, IS THE LOADING DOCK FOR THE GROCER AND THE BACK OF HOUSE SERVICE FOR, FOR BUILDING FIVE. THE, THE, THE LARGER THE PARKING BACK THERE IS PROBABLY MOSTLY EMPLOYEE PARKING.

THERE'S A I MENTIONED THE GRADE CHANGE AT THE ROUNDABOUT.

THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE THERE. AND SO THAT THAT, PAVED AREA SITS DOWN BELOW KIRKWOOD AND THERE IS A SCREENING REQUIREMENT.

ALONG KIRKWOOD THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT ACTUALLY WORKS OUT GREAT.

I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD HOPE IT WAS. AND WE GOT A LITTLE HELP FROM MOTHER NATURE THERE.

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SCREENING BEHIND FOUR AND FIVE.

SO THE THE DOCK ITSELF HAS REQUIRED SCREENING.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT I MEAN, THE LABEL IS NOT LEGIBLE FROM THIS FONT SIZE AT THAT, BUT IT'S ADJACENT TO THE DOCK JUST TO THE RIGHT OF NUMBER FOUR. AND THEN THE RETAINING WALLS THAT SIT BETWEEN THE PARKING AND THE PAVED AREA AND BETWEEN THAT AND KIRKWOOD, THAT AND THE LANDSCAPE EDGE THAT IS REQUIRED ALONG KIRKWOOD BASICALLY CREATES A NATURAL SCREEN.

OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THAT RETAINING WALL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SAY THAT AGAIN. THE THE RETAINING WALL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALONG KIRKWOOD.

I MEAN, LESS THAN FIVE FEET, BUT IT SITS DOWN BELOW WITH THE TREES UP AT THE TOP.

SO YOU'RE PLANNING ON HEAVILY LANDSCAPING THAT AS WELL? YEAH, THE SAME LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT'S REQUIRED ON ANY THOROUGHFARE.

BUT I MEAN, IT'S IT'S. YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING NASTIER THAN THE BACK OF A GROCERY STORE AND A RESTAURANT.

SO YEAH, THAT'S I DON'T CARE WHO THEY ARE. YEAH.

AND THAT'S A COMMENT THAT WE TALKED TO METAIRIE ABOUT PEOPLE THERE IS THAT WE DON'T WANT THEM LOOKING INTO THE THE BACK END OF THAT EITHER.

SO THAT'S THE INTENT OF SCREENING THAT TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE NOT BEING THE THE WHOLE LOADING AREA BEING RECESSED.

IT REALLY DOES HELP A LOT. IT'S I'VE SEEN IT IN 3D AND IT'S A WELL, I MEAN I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU CAN WITH IT, BUT IT'S BUT IT'S STILL IT'S A KNOWN FACT THAT THAT IS NEVER A PRETTY PART OF THE BUILDING.

SO MY THOUGHTS WERE TO ALONG THE WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONT PARKING ALONG THE POND? I MEAN, I JUST HATE SEEING THAT MUCH PARKING IN JUST RIGHT ON 114 BECAUSE IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, 114 IS HIGHER. YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN ON IT. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO JUST LOOK DOWN ON A SEA OF PARKING.

AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD LIFETIME FITNESS THAT CAME IN HERE AND THAT WAS THEIR DEAL.

THEY WERE JUST ADAMANT THEY HAD TO HAVE ALL THEIR PARKING ON THE FRONT, AND THEY WOUND UP MOVING TO WESTLAKE. SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING AGAIN.

I KNOW YOU GOT THE POND IN HERE. THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DISTRACTION, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME HEAVIER SCREENING BETWEEN THAT POND AND THE PARKING LOT, IN MY OPINION. YEAH, WE WE WILL HAVE LANDSCAPE SCREENING, YOU KNOW, ALONG BOTH EDGES OF THAT.

AND I REALLY DON'T THINK THE WAY IT WORKS IS, IS AS FAR AS IT IS FROM THE FREEWAY.

AND WITH THE SIZE OF SCREENING, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL SEE CARS.

WE WON'T BE SCREENING THE BUILDINGS, BUT WE'LL BE SCREENING ENOUGH THAT YOU WON'T SEE CARS.

YEAH, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SCREENING THE BUILDING, BUT I'M TRYING TO SAY JUST, YOU KNOW, GET AS MUCH ATTENTION OFF THAT PARKING LOT AS YOU CAN BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PARKING LOT.

I THINK IT WAS 500 PARKING SPOTS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S A LOT OF CONCRETE OUT THERE.

YEAH. DO YOU NEED ALL OF THE AREA OF THAT POND FOR STORAGE? YES. WE'RE NOT BUILDING UPON LARGER THAN THAN WE NEED FOR OUR DETENTION REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE'VE PLACED IT IN A WAY TO PULL IT UP CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY SO THAT WE CAN PULL THE PARKING AWAY. AND THEN ALSO THERE ARE MANY VERSIONS OF THE SITE PLAN THAT DIDN'T HAVE RESTAURANTS PULLED UP TO THE POND, BUT WE TRIED TO ACTIVATE THAT AREA. SO IT'S NOT JUST A SEA OF PARKING.

SO THAT. BUT BUT THE POND. YES. IS IS SIZED. WELL, THAT WAS REALLY MY QUESTION WAS IF YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT ACTIVATING THAT EDGE OF THE POND A LITTLE BIT, WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DIMENSIONAL PLAY, AS OPPOSED TO A STRAIGHT LINE SUCH THAT YOU COULD,

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IF YOU GO TO THE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT WE DON'T DO FINAL ENGINEERING AT THIS STAGE OF THE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS ENGINEERING PLAN.

BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM THOSE THE THAT LANDSCAPE EDGE, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE SORT OF A MEANDERING EDGE AND PULL THE.

YEAH. AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T VIEW THAT AS A, AS A HARD LINE THE WAY THAT'S RENDERED THERE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS LOT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS A GOOD VIEW TO TO SHOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

IT'S LIKE, YES, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH LANDSCAPING IN HERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME EVEN TALLER STUFF IN THERE TO SHADE THAT, YOU KNOW, TO SHIELD THAT PARKING AS MUCH AS YOU CAN UNDERSTAND.

BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS NOT FROM A CAR ON 114.

THIS IS THIS IS IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE AT EIGHT FEET.

THIS IS LIKE A THIS IS A BIRD'S EYE KIND OF LOW BIRD'S EYE VIEW.

SO I THINK IF YOU PUT IF YOU WENT DOWN TO 114, EVEN JUST WITH THESE ROWS OF LANDSCAPING, I, YOU BARELY SEE CARS. BUT WE WOULD TOTALLY APPRECIATE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

AND THE FRONTAGE ROAD THERE IS THE SAME ELEVATION AS THIS WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY IS.

SO IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE FRONTAGE ROAD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S.

I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT THAN I AM THE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO JUSTIN OR WHEREVER ELSE THEY LIVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SOUTHLAKE. YEAH. AND I WOULD SAY WE HEAR YOU ON THAT.

AND THE BALANCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STRIKE HERE IS PUTTING IN THAT, THAT SCREENING.

SO YOU DON'T SEE THE SEA OF PARKING. IT IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT THAT THERE IS VISIBILITY TO THE GROCER FOR THE GROCER.

AND SO WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THAT SO THAT THEY'RE NOT HIDDEN BACK THERE.

OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO BE ON THE SITE.

YEAH. AND SO THAT'S THE BALANCE THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH ON, ON THAT LANDSCAPING.

OKAY. SO DOES ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANT TO ADD ON BUILDING FOUR AND FIVE.

THE ONLY THING THAT I'VE GOT IS THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LOADING DOCK WILL BE SCREENED BY LANDSCAPE AND RETAINING WALLS.

IS THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO PUT IN HERE? I THINK JUST THE LANDSCAPING UP AROUND THE POND.

DETENTION POND. OKAY. THAT COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM MENTIONED.

GREAT. WELL, I MEAN, I HAVE ONE QUESTION, ACTUALLY.

IT WAS THE LOT THAT'S FURTHEST TO THE PLAN NORTH.

THAT IS A FUTURE SUBMISSION. THERE'S A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES DOWN BETWEEN THESE TWO MAJOR LOTS.

IS THAT YOUR INTENT TO BUILD THAT ENTIRE DRIVEWAY, OR ARE YOU GOING TO JUST BUILD HALF OF IT BETWEEN LOT ONE AND TWO? THE THE PURPLE LINE, BLUE LINE. THE DRIVEWAY WIDTH IS REQUIRED FOR FIRE.

IT'LL BE FULLY, FULLY BUILT. SO IT'LL BE FULLY BUILT OUT.

CORRECT. AND THE GROCERY REQUIRES THAT ACCESS FOR FOR THEIR SECOND POINT.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON LOT TWO HERE.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR LOT ONE? LIKE ANOTHER SLIDE OR IS THIS PRETTY MUCH IT.

THAT'S IT OKAY. AND LOT ONE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH RIGHT NOW ANYWAY.

CORRECT. NO, JUST JUST FROM A YOUTH STANDPOINT, I THINK WE HAD A COUPLE OF USES THAT WERE THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR APPROVING A HOTEL USE, BUT WE HAVE TO COME BACK WITH THE DETAILS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DOCTOR SPRINGER. COMMISSIONER.

PHALEN. WHEN WE MAKE THE OVERALL MOTION, DO WE WANT TO REMOVE THE GAS STATION OPTION? OKAY. AND LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNFAIR QUESTION, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

SO THERE'S ONLY FOUR OF US HERE TONIGHT, AND THERE'S TWO THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

AND, DENNIS, PLEASE GIVE YOUR COMMENTS A LITTLE UNFAIR QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

I'M A LITTLE HESITANT TO SEND THIS FORWARD JUST BECAUSE WE'VE ASKED FOR SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, I THINK, ON THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE LANDSCAPING.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, DENNIS? AND WE DON'T HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS HERE.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID. AND I REALIZE YOU GUYS WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND GET THIS THING GOING.

BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID IS DUMPING THIS ON COUNCIL AND SAYING, HERE WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MESSED WITH IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU GUYS FIGURE OUT THE REST OF IT.

YEAH. AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MAKES THAT MOVES FORWARD TO COUNCIL.

WITH THE NEW AGENDA POSTING REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STATE, WE HAVE ZERO TIME TO HANDLE ANY CHANGES FROM PLANS GOING FROM

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AND IT'S I THINK, ONE OF THOSE THINGS, I THINK THAT IF THERE'S CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WOULD APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SEE ON THEIR FIRST READING AND MOVE ON FROM THAT FIRST READING TO A SECOND READING.

YEAH, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE CALENDAR.

YOU GUYS ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO COME IN AFTER SEPTEMBER 1ST.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S CREATING THE ISSUE HERE WITH, WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? CURTIS? WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY SURE WE CAN. WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID TONIGHT AND THAT WE COULD DOCUMENT THAT.

YEAH. I THINK IF YOUR CONCERN IS, WILL WE HAVE THE CHANGES MAINLY TO THE RESIDENTIAL, I THINK IS WHAT, WHAT I'M HEARING. THERE'S A FEW OTHER THINGS READY FOR COUNCIL AT FIRST READING.

YES. WE WILL, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT.

IN FACT, WE CAN GET IT TO STAFF. WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK DENNIS'S PROBLEM IS THEY CAN'T ACCOMMODATE THAT SCHEDULING OF WHAT WE HAVE TO COMPLETE OUR ITEMS FOR AHEAD OF THE AGENDA POSTING TIME. I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THOSE BY TOMORROW IN ORDER, AND THAT LEAVES US NO TIME TO REVIEW IT BEFORE PUTTING IT IN TO A PACKET.

AND SO WE CANNOT MOVE CHANGES IN THE COUNCIL PACKETS COMING FROM THIS BOARD TO THE COMMISSIONERS RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A IT'S A CHANGE IN THE IN THE REQUIREMENTS ON NOTICE.

AND Y'ALL JUST HAPPEN TO BE HERE AFTER THE LAW WENT INTO EFFECT.

SO WHAT IF WE WE'D BE COMFORTABLE PUSHING COUNCIL A WEEK NOT TRYING TO GO TO THE SOONEST.

WOULD THAT WORK? TWO WEEKS? WELL, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE LONGER THAN TWO WEEKS BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF TUESDAYS IN THIS MONTH.

SO IF YOU IF AND THIS, OF COURSE, IS IN THE COMMISSION'S HANDS AS WELL, IF THE COMMISSION FEELS LIKE THEY WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL. THAT'S ONE, ONE THING.

AND THE COMMISSION'S HANDS, IF YOU WISHED TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE COUNCIL'S AUGUST 7TH HEARING IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE OR, EXCUSE ME, OCTOBER 7TH HEARING, IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND HAVE THEM IN THE PACKET THAT REPRESENT THE THE THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION. THAT IS AN OPTION AS WELL. BUT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, IF YOU TABLE FROM THE ONE SCHEDULED FOR THE SEPTEMBER 16TH, WOULD NOT BE UNTIL OCTOBER 7TH, WOULD BE THREE WEEKS AWAY FROM THAT.

YOU WANT TO DO THAT? IF WE CAN DO THAT, OKAY, WE'LL DO THAT.

WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. OKAY, WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THINK.

OKAY. WELL, NO. IN OTHER WORDS, DO WE WANT THEM TO COME BACK HERE OR WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT FORWARD AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO TABLE IT AT THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING AND GO TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, ARE WE GOING TO VOTE ON IT HERE TONIGHT OR DO WE WANT TO SEE IT BACK WITH THE CHANGES? MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO SEE IT BACK WITH THE CHANGES.

I'M FINE WITH MOVING IT FORWARD. I DON'T THINK I DON'T NEED TO SEE IT AGAIN. JUST FOR THE REVISION FROM 8300 TO 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, DOCTOR SPRINGER YEAH, I THINK I THINK LETTING IT GO IS I THINK I'M GOOD WITH THAT TOO, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM TO REORGANIZE THE ENTIRE PLAN.

IT'S JUST REARRANGE A FEW THINGS ON THERE. SO, OKAY, I SAY, I SAY, LET'S LET IT GO.

OKAY. I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I MEAN, I THINK IF WE WERE DOING A WHOLESALE CHANGE WITH REARRANGING THE LOTS, THAT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH THE CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE THAT QUICKLY NOW, BEFORE THEY POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE, BUT NOT ANY LONGER.

SO, SO SO IF YOU MOVE IT FORWARD THEN THEY'RE GOING TO TABLE IT AT, AT COUNCIL.

THAT'S YEAH. THEY'RE GOING TO TABLE IT FROM THE NEXT COUNCIL.

THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING WHICH THEY WOULD NORMALLY GO TO.

THAT WILL ALLOW PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND DIRECTOR KILO TO GO IN, EVALUATE THE CHANGES, MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE THEY GO TO COUNCIL. OKAY. OKAY. YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL. WE MAY CALL YOU BACK UP, DEPENDING ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.

OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. AND ASK IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. NOBODY WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS WHERE IT'S 840.

THE COWBOYS ARE PROBABLY DOWN 21 POINTS AND NOBODY WANTS TO COME TALK.

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DOCTOR SPRINGER, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GOT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CASE ZA 250045, REFERENCING STAFF REPORT DATED AUGUST 29TH OF 2025 AND ALSO REFERENCING THE ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER THREE DATED EIGHT 2925, WITH THE NOTING THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS. WE'LL GO WITH LOTS FOUR AND FIVE.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE LOTS HAVE A EIGHT FOOT SIDE YARD, A 25 FRONT, 25 FOOT FRONT SETBACK, A 30 FOOT BACK SETBACK, AND AN 80 FOOT FRONT WIDTH AND A MINIMUM OF 10,000FT².

LOT THREE. WE GRANT THE VARIANCE FOR THE DRIVEWAY STACKING EXCLUDING GAS STATIONS AS AN APPROVED USE. THE RESTAURANT AREA WILL BE BERMED WITH LANDSCAPING AND FOR SCREENING PURPOSES.

AND LOT NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS WHERE THE GROCERY STORE IS BUILDING FOUR AND FIVE, THE LOADING DOCKS WILL BE SCREENED BY LANDSCAPE AND RETAINING WALLS IN THE IN THE LOADING AREAS AND THE BACK PART OF THE RESTAURANTS, AND ADDING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ALONG THE POND TO SCREEN THE PARKING FROM 114 IN THE FRONTAGE ROAD. AND TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF ALL VARIANCES RIGHT ON THE STACKING DEPTH.

THAT IS CORRECT, YES. DENNIS, DOES THAT WORK? I BELIEVE SO, YES. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT ITEM CARRIES FOUR ZERO. THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

AND GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. SUPER BOWL BOUND, RIGHT.

ONLY TO WATCH. ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR CITY SOUTHLAKE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.