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[1. Call to Order. ]
AT LEAST ONE OF US ON OCTOBER 9TH WE HAVE JUST ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.NO ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS, I'M ASSUMING. NO CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS.
[5. Consider: Approving the minutes from the September 4, 2025, Sign Board Meeting. ]
ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON THOSE BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A [INAUDIBLE] MOTION.HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.
THAT WAS A TOUGH ONE. TOUGHEST PARTS TRYING TO GET THE VOTING MACHINE TO.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A GIVING INDIVIDUAL. PASSES FIVE ZERO.
[6. Consider: SV25-0011, Sign Variances for Lambert Home Headquarters, located at 1710 N. White Chapel Blvd. ]
CONSIDERATION OF SV 25-001111 OR 0011. A SIGN VARIANCE FOR LAMBERT HOMES HEADQUARTERS.YES. THANK YOU. THIS IS SIGN VARIANCES FOR LAMBERT HOME HEADQUARTERS.
AND THEY'RE LOCATED AT 1710 NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD.
THEY'RE REQUESTING TWO ATTACHED SIGNS. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE.
THIS IS THE BUILDING HERE. AND THIS IS JUST THE SIGN SITE PLAN.
THEY'RE REQUESTING A SIGN ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION FACING 114.
AND ALSO ON THE NORTH ELEVATION. THE NORTH ELEVATION IS AN AWNING/CANOPY SIGN.
THE OTHER VARIANCE IS FOR THE SIGN WIDTH. IT EXCEEDS 75% OF THE SINGLE PLAIN FACADE THERE.
AND ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION IT'S AN UPPER STORY SIGN.
UPPER STORY SIGNS ARE JUST NOT ALLOWED. SIGN TYPE WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL.
AND AGAIN, THE SIGN WILL BE EXTERNALLY ILLUMINATED.
IT'S THE ILLUMINATION IS KIND OF UNDER MOUNTED HERE.
IT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS AT NIGHT. AND THIS ONE ALSO EXCEEDS 75% OF THE SINGLE PLAIN FACADE.
THESE ARE JUST SOME MORE DETAILED DRAWINGS OF THE SIGNS.
AND THIS IS THE VIEW FROM EAST STATE HIGHWAY 114.
AND THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I GUESS BEFORE WE POTENTIALLY CALL THE APPLICANT UP, I GUESS USUALLY WITH SIGNS, WE TYPICALLY DISCUSS THEM FIRST, I GUESS.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK ON THIS REQUEST? THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE ABOUT IT IS THE WAY IT WAS DESCRIBED TO ME, THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE BACKLIT OR THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY OF THEIR OWN LIGHTING ON THE SIGN PART. IT'S ALL GOING TO BE BEHIND IT, KIND OF A DOWN LIGHT, AND I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.
WHY DON'T WE CALL OUR APPLICANT UP RIGHT NOW, IF YOU DON'T MIND? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IN THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD.
AND THEN I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THE QUESTION. SO THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS JACOB SCOGGINS. I'M THE ARCHITECT OF LAMBERT HOME, NOT THE SIGN GUY, BUT WE'RE.
THE PLAN IS TO PUT LED STRIP LIGHT UNDERNEATH, BEHIND THE FASCIA.
SO IT'S DISCREET, AND SO IT'LL JUST ILLUMINATE UPWARDS.
OH, YEAH. I'D HAVE A TENDENCY TO YELL, SO I TRY TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT.
IT'S JUST TOO FAR, AND THEN WE CAN DIFFUSE THAT LIGHT SOME LIKEWISE ON THE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, IT'S GOING TO BE ALMOST THE INVERSION. IT WILL BE ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE FASCIA SHINING BACK ON THAT.
IF WE HAD IT REAL CLOSE. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. YEAH.
YEAH. AND WE CAN CONTROL THAT BY THE OPTICS ON THE FIXTURE THAT WE'LL BE USING.
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SO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT. BUT KNOW YOU'RE, THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM WITH SIGNS.THAT'S WHY A LOT OF TIME WE WON'T PUT LIKE A LOT OF STONE OR ANYTHING. IT JUST GETS REAL JUMBLED. ANY OTHER? I HAVE A QUESTION. WOULD THE LIGHT COLOR CHANGE EVER OR IS IT GOING TO BE ONE COLOR? I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ON THE WAY HERE. SO THE ANSWER I WOULD SAY IS YES OR NO, DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S NO RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A WHITE LIGHT.
I'VE DONE A LOT OF LED COLOR CHANGING LIGHTS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR. IT'S JUST WHITE. IN TERMS OF THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS IS IT TRUE TO FORM IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STANDALONE LETTER OR STANDING LETTERS OR HANGING LETTERS WOULD LOOK AS FAR AS THE LIGHTING, IS THAT AS YOUR SOFTWARE PROGRAM, IS IT TRUE TO FORM? IT'S NOT 100% ACCURATE. IT'S ABOUT AS GOOD AS YOU CAN GET IN THE PROGRAM.
I DON'T. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO, I MEAN, I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD, I LIKE IT.
THESE ARE THE SAME RENDERINGS THAT WE PRESENTED DURING OUR P&Z CASE THAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
SO WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANY OF THAT. I KNOW THAT THE P&Z DIDN'T SAY THAT THE SIGNAGE WAS APPROVED, BUT JUST TO SAY THAT IT WASN'T, AT LEAST AS FAR AS I REMEMBER, IT WASN'T A CONCERN THEN.
SO WE TRIED TO HOLD TRUE TO WHAT WAS APPROVED THEN.
BUT AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THE SIGNAGE WASN'T APPROVED. YEAH.
NO, I'M WITH COMMISSIONER PHALEN. I MEAN, IT'S HARD FOR OUR ORDINANACE TO ANTICIPATE EVERY KIND OF DERIVATIVE OF A SIGN, BUT THESE SEEM TO BE, YOU KNOW, VERY TASTEFUL AND WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE AND NOT TOO, YOU KNOW, WE DRAW UP CERTAIN WIDTHS, BUT I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT FAR OUT OF IT.
IT LOOKS PROPORTIONATE TO THE BUILDING. SO I WAS I WAS FINE WITH IT. I MEAN, IT'S A NICE LOOKING BUILDING. I WAS FINE WITH IT. I'LL SAY, THE NORTH SIDE, YOU REALLY WON'T SEE THE CANOPY SIGN FROM ANYWHERE OTHER THAN INSIDE THE SITE.
BUT THE CANOPY SIGN THAT'S INTERNAL TO THE SITE, THE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, FACES HIGHWAY 114.
THAT WAS OUR SOLUTION TO NOT REALLY BEING ABLE TO PUT A MONUMENT SIGN AT 114.
WE HAVE OUR DETENTION POND THERE AT THE CORNER, AND THEN THERE'S JUST A SLEW OF UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, WHICH YOU OWE ME ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. AND WE FOUND THE GAS LINE, BY THE WAY.
SO BUT ANYHOW THAT WAS OUR SOLUTION WAS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GIVE SOME SIGNAGE WITHOUT GETTING TOO CLOSE TO SOME THINGS WE CAN'T CONTROL, REALLY. AND I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE TASTEFULNESS THE SIZE OF IT.
I APPRECIATE RELATIVE TO IT BEING ON THAT 114 FRONTAGE.
I MEAN, I THINK CERTAIN APPLICANTS SOMETIMES TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
WE HAVE SIGNS ALONG 114, PROBABLY ABOUT 35 TIMES LARGER.
SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE HIM. NO. ANY OTHER APPLICANT QUESTIONS? OKAY, WELL, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP IF WE NEED YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DELIBERATIONS ON THIS? I GUESS I'M FINE AS AS PRESENTED, BUT YEAH. I LIKE HIS ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE LIGHTING.
YEAH. SO IT'LL KIND OF CLASSY. AND SO. OKAY, WELL, I GUESS, DO WE WANT TO RESTRICT THE COLOR FROM EVER CHANGING, OR DO WE WANT TO JUST. BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME IT'D BE LIKE THE HOTEL HERE HAS THEY CHANGED THEIR LIGHTING BASED ON WHATEVER THE SEASON IS.
IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF IT WAS.
ON CHANGING THE LIGHTING COLOR, YOU KNOW, WHITE, BUT NOW IT'S DRAGON GREEN OR IT'S RED? YEAH. THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT IT BE A SOFT WHITE, NEUTRAL WHITE AND ANY OTHER COLOR REQUIRES APPROVAL UNDER A SIGN PROVISION. SO. SO I THINK MAYBE THAT'S JUST FOR THE APPLICANT THAT IF.
YEAH THE HOTEL. AS YOU HEAD TO CITY COUNCIL, IF THERE'S FOR SOME REASON, SOME DESIRE TO WANT TO CHANGE THE COLOR SEASONALLY OR SOMETHING, THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING YOU'D INCLUDE IN YOUR. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY CALL THAT OUT IN YOUR COUNCIL MATERIALS, THAT IT WILL PROBABLY BE ADDITIONAL VARIANCE. BUT I THINK IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH IT AS IS, I'M GOOD.
YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE NUMBER SV 25-0011 IN STAFF REPORT OCTOBER 03,
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2025. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. VOTE PLEASE.VOTE. MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
AND WITH THAT, AT 6:56 P.M.. WE'RE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU ALL.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.