7. Consider: ZA25-0068, Zoning Change and Site Plan for The Overlook of the Willow Tree Gardens development, on property described as a portion of Tract 3C, W.W Hall Survey Abstract No. 695 and located at 240 N. Carroll Avenue. Current Zoning: “TZD” Transition Zoning District. Proposed Zoning: “TZD” Transition Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #7. PUBLIC HEARING

[7. Consider: ZA25-0068, Zoning Change and Site Plan for The Overlook of the Willow Tree Gardens development, on property described as a portion of Tract 3C, W.W Hall Survey Abstract No. 695 and located at 240 N. Carroll Avenue. Current Zoning: “TZD” Transition Zoning District. Proposed Zoning: “TZD” Transition Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #7. PUBLIC HEARING]

PART OF OUR REGULAR AGENDA, ZA 25-0068 ZONING CHANGE A SITE PLAN FOR THE EXCUSE ME THE OVERLOOK OF WILLOW TREE.

>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION.

I'LL BE PRESENTING A ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR THE OVERLOOK LOCATED AT 240 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR THE OVERLOOK OFFICE BUILDING COMPONENT OF THE WILLOW TREE GARDENS DEVELOPMENT.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF NORTH CARROLL AVENUE AND NORTH OF EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL.

THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THIS IS TCD TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT.

THE OFFICE COMMERCIAL LAND USE DEFINITION, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD EDGE OFFICE WITHIN THE TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT.

THIS IS A STREET VIEW LOOKING NORTHEAST INTO NORTH CARROLL AVENUE, AND THIS IS A STREET VIEW LOOKING SOUTHWEST FROM NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

THIS IS A RECENT SITE PHOTO OF THE DEVELOPMENT SHOWING THE DRIVEWAY, AND THIS IS ANOTHER STREET VIEW FROM NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

FOR THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, IT'S THE AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

JUST MODIFICATIONS TO THE TCD ZONING.

IT'S A THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDING WITH A BANK USE AND A PRIVATE BAR PRIVATE CLUB AND BAR ON THE THIRD FLOOR, AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 27,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S A SITE DATA SUMMARY OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVED WITH ZA 23-0072.

COMPARISON OF THE TWO SITE DATA SUMMARIES.

CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS PLAN, NOTING THAT THE PROPOSED BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS 12,445 SQUARE FEET.

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PER THE ZONING DISTRICT, THE MAXIMUM BUILDING SIZES FOR OFFICES IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS THREE STORIES AND 48 FEET AND MAXIMUM HEIGHT, AND THE BUILDING ORIGINALLY WAS NOT TO EXCEED TWO STORIES, AND THE BANK WITH A DRIVE WAS PROPOSED, AND ORIGINALLY WITH THE TCD ZONING, IT WAS NOT PERMITTED.

IT'S ELEVATION FROM THE NORTH SIDE, ELEVATION FROM THE SOUTH SIDE, ELEVATION FACING WEST AND ELEVATION FACING EAST.

THIS IS THE BUILDING SECTION FACING NORTH TO SOUTH, THE BUILDING SECTION EAST TO WEST, FENCING PLAN THAT MEETS WITH THE APPROVED ORIGINAL PLAN.

TREE CONSERVATION PLAN SHOWING 34% PRESERVED TREE CANOPY.

THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN, DRAINAGE PLAN.

PRELIMINARY GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN, AND THE UTILITIES PLAN, NOTING THE PROPOSED SEWER AND WATER LINE AND THE EXISTING WATER MAIN.

AS OF TODAY, FOR THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, THERE'S TWO WRITTEN RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION WITHIN THE 300 FOOT BUFFER.

THERE'S THREE WRITTEN RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE OF THE 300 FOOT BUFFER, AND THERE'S BEEN 28 WRITTEN RESPONSES IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF THE 300 FOOT BUFFER.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON THIS ITEM? HOW'S IT GOING, CURTIS?

>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN. DOING WELL. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS CURTIS SHANG WITH SAGE GROUP 11 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

>> HELLO, COMMISSIONERS, TRAVIS FRANKS, WILLOW TREE CUSTOM HOME 680 NORTH CARROLL.

>> AS YOU RECALL, THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR AND IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION IS MOVING ALONG NICELY.

AS WE BEGIN TO CONSIDER THE OFFICE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A COUPLE OF SMALL REVISIONS TO IT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT TO EXPLAIN IT.

AS CINDY SAID EARLIER, THIS IS THE PLAN AS APPROVED CURRENTLY, AND OF COURSE, THE WILT GARDENS PART OF THIS CHANGE, BUT IT FIT INTO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.

LIKE SO YOU CAN SEE THIS WAS THE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE OFFICE BUILDING THAT WE APPROVED BACK THEN.

ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, THERE WERE ALWAYS OUTDOOR AREAS ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT PEOPLE WOULD GATHER IN AND BE ABLE TO LOOK- OVERLOOK TOWN SQUARE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA IN, AND THAT'S PART OF THE APPROVED.

NOW THE REVISED PLAN THAT WE'VE PROPOSED IS TO DO TWO THINGS.

NUMBER ONE IS TO HAVE A TENANT FOR THE GROUND FLOOR OF A BANK WHO IS INTERESTED.

THAT BANK NEEDS TO DRIVE THROUGH, AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, AND SO WE'VE REVISED THE FLOOR PLAN HERE OR THE SITE PLAN TO SHOW A DRIVE THROUGH IN THIS AREA SO IT CAN SERVICE THE BANK.

THAT'S ONE OF THE TWO MAIN PROVISIONS.

THE SECOND ONE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO BE ABLE TO PUT ON ABOVE THE SECOND FLOOR, A PRIVATE CLUB, AND THAT'S THIS AREA IN HERE.

THE IDEA SHOWN HERE IS THAT THIS WOULD BE THE INTERIOR PRIVATE CLOUD AND THEN THERE WOULD BE LIKE A PATIO HERE THAT WOULD OVERLOOK THESE TOWN SQUARE TO THE EAST.

THAT'S THE PLAN AS SUBMITTED RIGHT NOW ASK CONSIDERATION ON.

JUST TO NOTE ABOUT HOW FAR AWAY THIS IS FROM THE CLOSEST HOME.

IT'S ABOUT A 1.5 TENNIS COURTS AWAY JUST TO PUT YOU IN SCALE ABOUT HOW FAR AWAY IT IS.

CERTAINLY THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE KEPT IN MIND ALL ALONG, KNOWING THAT THEY WOULDN'T WANT PEOPLE ON THE THIRD LEVEL LOOKING DOWN INTO THE BACK YARD.

THE OTHER THING WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE LOOKED AT VIEW SCREENS.

THIS IS A SECTION GOING THROUGH, SHOWING THE OFFICE BUILDING AND SHOWING WHERE THE THIRD FLOOR WAS PROPOSED TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY NOT EVEN CENTERED,

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BUT FAR ENOUGH AWAY SO THAT ANYONE IN THE BACK YARD OR AT THE EDGE OF THIS HOME HERE, IF THEY WERE TO LOOK THIS DIRECTION, NOT ONLY WOULD IT BE SCREENED, THEY WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO SEE IT AT ALL.

THIS IS THIS A VIEW SHED OF HOW THAT LOOKS.

NOW, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT STILL ABOUT BEING ABLE TO LOOK AROUND THE CORNER AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

WE DECIDED AND THIS IS NEW TO STAFF.

THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THIS. THIS JUST KIND OF CAME UP TODAY.

BUT AS AN ALTERNATIVE, IF THAT BECOMES A CONCERNING THING, BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD MORE FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE COULD TURN IT SO THE OUTDOOR AREA IS ON THIS SIDE HERE, AND THERE WOULD BE NO WINDOWS ALONG HERE.

THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO VIEW TO THE NORTH.

THIS WOULD STILL ALLOW THE PATRONS OF THE PRIVATE CLUB TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VIEW OF THIS DIRECTION HERE, AND THERE WOULD BE WINDOWS ON THIS SIDE, BUT THERE WOULD BE NO OUTSIDE ACCESS LONG HERE.

WE KIND OF OFFER THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE IF THAT BECOMES A CONCERN.

IN THAT INSTANCE, THIS IS HOW THAT WOULD LOOK.

THIS WOULD BE THE CLUB HERE, AND THEN THE OUTDOOR AREA WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE INSTEAD OF THE EAST SIDE.

OF COURSE, THE HOMES IN QUESTION ARE OVER HERE, SO THERE WOULD BE NO VIEW AT ALL.

THE SOUND, IF THERE WAS ANY SOUND, AND WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON HAVING OUTSIDE SPEAKERS ANYWAY.

BUT THE SOUND, TO THE EXTENT THERE'S ANY SOUND GOING THROUGH THE DOORS HERE WOULD BE DIRECTED 180 DEGREES AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE INDICATED THEIR CONCERNS.

AGAIN, THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AND THE ONE WE'RE PROPOSING SIDE BY SIDE.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE FLOOR PLANS OF THE BUILDING, HERE THEY ARE, AND THEN THIS WOULD BE THE FLOOR PLAN AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TOP FLOOR.

ELEVATIONS, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS APPROVED.

BUILDING SECTIONS GOING THROUGH, AND SOME RENDERINGS.

AGAIN, THIS WOULD HOW IT WOULD LOOK FROM THE SOUTHERN DRIVE HERE.

THERE'S THE DRIVE THROUGH FOR THE BANK IN HERE.

AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, THIS WOULD BE WHERE THE OUTDOOR PATIO WOULD BE, AND AGAIN, OVERLOOKING SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE IS REALLY THE WHOLE IDEA.

AGAIN, HERE'S THE OTHER ELEVATION, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

THE IDEA FOR THE PATIO WOULD BE AN OUTDOOR AREA HERE.

WE WOULD HAVE PLANTINGS AND PERHAPS EVEN SOME LARGER ORNAMENTALS HERE TO SCREEN THE VIEWS ON EITHER SIDE.

THE VIEW WOULD BE FOCUSED DIRECTLY EAST TOWARDS SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE.

OF COURSE, IF YOU PREFER THE OTHER ONE WHERE WE'RE ON THE SOUTH, KIND OF THE SAME THING.

COULD BE PUT IN THERE.

ANYWAY, THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN THINGS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YET YOU HAVE ANY.

>> I'M GOING TO ADD A LITTLE COLOR TO THIS, TOO, JUST BECAUSE WHEN WE WORK ON THESE THINGS, THIS POP UP SPEAK EASY REVOLUTION CAME FROM THE FACT THAT AFTER WE SEEN THE BUILDING WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND KIND OF THE OVERALL REALLY JUST JOKINGLY REQUEST BY A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS BUYING IT OR BUYING INTO IT OR, PEOPLE IN TOWN, CITIZENS.

REALIZE THE VIEWS THAT YOU'D GET KIND OF STARTED WITH 4TH JULY, TOWN SQUARE FIREWORKS TYPE DEAL.

THAT EVOLVED INTO MORE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT IT ACTUALLY WOULD DO.

THAT'S WHERE IT POPPED UP AT, AND WE REALIZED THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE DIRECT ACCESS BY BEING ON THIRD FLOOR, SO THE SECOND LEVEL AND THE FIRST LEVEL WOULD HAVE THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN OFFICES AND NOT BE INTERRUPTED BY SOMETHING ELSE BEING ON A SECOND FLOOR THAT WE WERE EVEN GOING TO LOOK AT TOO.

I ALSO WANT TO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN CONSIDERATION TO THE NEIGHBORS AND HEARING WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AND TALKING TO, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OBVIOUSLY WE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE THE NEW INERATION THAT WE HAVE TURNED IT AND FACING IT COMPLETELY SOUTH TAKES AWAY A MAJORITY OF IT AND GO BACK TO THAT.

THAT ONE WANT TO DO THIS ONE.

SORRY. ONE OF THEM WAS NOISE.

I PROPOSED, AND AGAIN, I LOOKED UP SOUTHLAKE NOISE ORDINANCES AND I REALIZED THAT, IF WE'RE NOT THIS IS A PRIVATE CLUB.

THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC DANCING CLUB. THIS IS A SPEAKEASY.

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IT'S GOING TO BE VERY THE OPERATOR THAT'S ENGAGED IN THIS CURRENTLY IS LOOKING AT IT AS A SOMETHING THAT'S VERY ELEGANT, EXTREMELY HIGH END, VERY EXPENSIVE.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANY KIND OF TEENAGER OR 21 YEAR OLDS IN THIS CLUB, IT'S GOING TO BE ADULTS.

MAINLY, MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN WILLOWTREE GARDENS THAT'S BEHIND IT.

THIS WILLOWTREE OR SORRY, THE SPEAK EASY PRIVATE CLUB MEMBERSHIP BY FACING SOUTH, WE PROMISE NOT TO DO ANY KIND OF NOISE VIOLATIONS, MEANING THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS OUTSIDE.

WE'RE NOT DOING OVERLIGHTING OUTSIDE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ENHANCING AND SHRUB LIGHTS.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE WHATEVER CODE LIGHTING REQUIRES US TO HAVE OUTSIDE.

IT'S MEANT TO JUST ENJOY THE VIEWS OF SOUTHLAKE.

IT IS ALL ITS MEANT TO BE. THERE IS NO FOOD, OTHER THAN CHACUARI, OR SNACK TYPE FOOD, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY SMELLS OR ANY KITCHENS GOING ON.

ALSO, TO RESPECT TO TIMING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T NEED TO STAY OPEN LATE, SO WE'RE THINKING THAT BECAUSE OF THE PARKING LOT FLIP FROM THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES DOING BUSINESS FROM EIGHT TO FIVE, THAT THIS WOULD OPEN UP AT FOUR OR FIVE TO SAY NINE O'CLOCK ON SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND MAYBE CLOSE ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY AT 10.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR LONG RUN HOURS.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A PLACE TO CAUGURATE, AND YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF THE RESPONSES AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN FAVOR THAT HAVE CALLED ME ABOUT IT AND SAYING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS AS AN AMENITY, WHICH WOULD BE A VERY HIGH VALUE AMENITY FOR SOUTHLAKE BECAUSE THE OPERATOR WANTS TO MAKE IT AS A TRUE LUXURY, SPEAK EASY, THUMBPRINT ELEVATORS, VERY EXCLUSIVE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN.

SOME OF THE OTHER PARTS WHERE WE HAD WAS WAS THE BAR USAGE, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BAR, BUT IT IS A BAR.

BUT IT'S A BAR CLUB, WHICH IS THE DESIGNATION, BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

IT'S VERY EXCLUSIVE. IT WOULD BE A VERY LIMITED MEMBERSHIP ROLE.

AGAIN, VISIBILITY, THE BUILDING, THE WAY IT'S DESIGN, IT SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STRUCTURE.

THIS OBVIOUSLY WOULD SEE IT, BUT FROM CARROLL BUT I'VE OFFERED THE SCREEN AS MUCH AS I CAN TO THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH WITH EITHER MORE SHRUBS, MORE SCREENING NELLI R STEVENS, MAGNOLIAS FENCING.

WE ALREADY PUTTING AN EIGHT FOOT STONEWALL FENCING ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS I WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT REALLY WOULD TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE CONCERNS THEY MIGHT HAVE IN BEGINNING.

I UNDERSTAND IF YOU LIVE ON THE CORNER OVER HERE OFF OF CARROLL AND OWNING OF THAT AREA, THAT YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING NOISE THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH LIVING ON CARROLL AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM TOWN SQUARE, THIS, TO ME, WOULD NOT HAVE ANY NOISE VIOLATIONS OR ANY ADDED NOISES, ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT WE'D BE CLOSING AT THE TECHNICAL NOISE REQUIREMENTS CITY TELLS US TO BE SHUT IT DOWN AT THE DECIBEL LEVEL THAT THEY TELL US TO BE TURNING DOWN AT.

THAT'S THE COLOR OF IT. ANYWAYS, YOU'RE HERE TO ASK ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND HAPPY FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER THIS.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY, GUYS, THIS BAR WOULD BE ON THE TOP FLOOR ONLY AND FACING SOUTH NOW?

>> YES, SIR. THIS IS THE RENDERING WE'RE SHOWING.

AGAIN, BROUGHT TODAY.

STAFF HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS, AND WE JUST WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANY VISIBILITY, ANY BACKYARD.

WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ELIMINATES 100% EVERY DIRECTION, NO BACK YARD, NO NOTHING, AND IT FACES ALL COMMERCIAL.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. I NOTICED THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS DECREASED, EVEN THOUGH THE BUILDING SIZE INCREASED.

WERE YOU ALL OVER PARKED BEFORE?

>> WE WERE OVER PARKED FOR THE USAGE WE HAD CURRENTLY.

WE LOST FIVE SPOTS BASED TO THE FIRE LANE AND THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED BY THE BANK.

THE BANK THAT'S PROPOSED OR LOI IS A VERY HIGH CREDITED BANK.

IT'S OKLAHOMA TEXAS BANK THAT WOULD BE, AGAIN, TREMENDOUS VALUE HINDERS ON THE DRIVE THROUGH.

I THINK IT CREATES A GREAT VALUE AND EQUITY FOR SOUTHLAKE.

THEN OFFICES ARE ALREADY ALL FOR THE SECOND FLOOR AS WELL, WHICH IS ALL MOSTLY LOCAL BUSINESSES JUST RELOCATING, MYSELF, INCLUDING, I'LL BE OFFICING UP THERE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST LOCAL 8-5 BUSINESSES.

THE PRODUCT WOULD BE TURNED OVER, MEANING THAT IT WOULD BE AN EMPTY PARKING LOT AFTER FOUR OR FIVE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE.

>> ITEM NUMBER 7 ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.

WHAT WE'LL DO TO START OUT.

THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMENT CARDS,

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AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE THREE THAT I HAVE WANT TO SPEAK.

I'LL JUST START OUT IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND.

FIRST ONE IS AUSTIN TRICIA AND AVERY ARNOLD, WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM? HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING?

>> DOING GOOD.

>> GOOD. IF YOU WOULD, DO ME A FAVOR WHEN YOU STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> I'M AUSTIN ARNOLD.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US SPEAK.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE'LL BE VERY BRIEF.

WE'RE THE FAMILY THAT LIVES ONE TENNIS COURT AWAY FROM THIS THAT WILL BE SLEEPING 120 FEET FROM THIS NEW PROPOSED BAR.

WE WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'LL SEEN US.

WE HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE ORIGINAL USE.

WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY EIGHT YEARS AGO HERE IN SOUTHLAKE, WE BACKED UP TO A GREEN SPACE THAT WE WERE FULLY AWARE OF IT BEING GARDEN OFFICE AND WELCOMED THE USE OF GARDEN OFFICE IN OUR BACKYARD.

WE ASSUMED IT WOULD BE ONE STORY ORIGINALLY.

WE WERE ALSO FINE WITH IT BEING TWO STORIES.

NOW WE'VE ADDED ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ADDITIONAL USAGE TO THIS SPACE.

NOW WE'VE GONE FROM WHAT WE WOULD ASSUME WOULD BE A ONE STORY TO A THREE STORY BUILDING, AND NOW WE'RE NOT WORKING YOUR STANDARD 8-5, 8-6.

WE'RE NOW WORKING WELL INTO THE DARK HOURS WHERE MY 12-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER'S SLEEPING TENNIS COURT AND A HALF AWAY FROM WHAT'S A PROPOSED BAR.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE GREAT OBJECTION TO THIS.

THIS IS A COMPLETE RETRADE OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.

WE WERE SILENT THROUGH THE FIRST PART AND WE'RE HAPPY WITH IT, AND HERE WE ARE LESS PARKING.

THERE'S GREATER USE AND THE GREATER OPERATIONS OF USE.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT JUST MUSIC AND PEOPLE ON THE PATIO MAKING NOISE.

I DRINK BOURBON, LIKE ALL THE REST OF THEM.

I KNOW I CAN GET PRETTY LOUD REGARDLESS OF WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE FACING.

IT'S ALSO THE HOURS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN THERE WITH MUFFLERS AND WITH MOTORCYCLES AND ALL NIGHTS, YOU GUYS WHO DRINK BOURBON LIKE LAB CARS TO.

YOU'VE GOT WHEN YOU GO TO THAT TURN LANE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LIGHTS SHINING IN OUR BACK BEDROOM WINDOW.

I PRESENTED TO COUNCIL THREE PHOTOS OF THIS SPOT.

THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY SHOWED, THAT PAD SITE IS ELEVATED.

IT'S NOT ACCURATE FROM WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING, EVEN ON THE PHOTOS YOU HAVE, IF YOU SCROLLED BACK TO THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE CARROLL STREET.

THIS PAD SITE IS SEVERAL FEET ABOVE MINE, SO THE SIT LINES AREN'T TRULY ACCURATE AT THAT LOCATION.

WE HAVE TALKED TO THE OTHER PEOPLE ON OUR HOA.

THIS ALL HAPPENED FAIRLY QUICKLY WITHIN A WEEK.

IT'S ALSO BUDDING A HOLIDAY WEEKEND.

THE CIPRIANOS WHO ARE HERE WHO LIVE ON OUR CUL-DE-SAC.

WE'VE ALSO TALKED TO THE DOWERTIES, WHO JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT THIS WEEK AND WEREN'T ABLE TO DO A FORMAL REQUEST, BUT THE ARNOLDS WERE SQUARELY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT FENCE.

THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE NEXT TO IT.

THEY'RE ALSO IN OPPOSITION.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO FILE AN OPPOSITION, AS WELL AS OUR HOA, STRONGLY AGAINST WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON THERE.

OTHER THAN THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, FAMILY?

>> NO, I THINK POSSIBLY ARNOLD HE TOUCHED ALL THE POINTS.

I THINK FOR US, IT'S JUST DISCOURAGING.

IT JUST FEELS WHICH FEELS UNETHICAL AT THIS POINT.

>> VERY GOOD. NOW'S YOUR CHANCE, AVERY, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE YOU GOT LIKE A MINUTE LEFT HERE TO SPEAK TO THE MILLIONS ON TV WATCHING.

>> MY NAME IS AVERY ARNOLD.

I'M A RESIDENT OF 325 BINKLEY COURT, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS OVER ALL THE TIME, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY COMFORTABLE WITH THERE BEING A BAR RIGHT NEXT TO OUR HOUSE.

WE LIVE PRETTY SQUARE.

I GO TO BED AT LIKE NINE.

HAVING THESE HOURS EXTEND PAST REGULAR OFFICE ONES IS LIKE, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I'M A STUDENT AT CARR MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND SLEEP IS VERY IMPORTANT.

IT JUST WORRIES ME THAT THIS IS HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY SO ROUGHLY LIKE IT IS.

I DON'T THINK MY PARENTS WOULD EVER SIGN OFF ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

NOTHING THAT WOULD MAKE OUR FAMILY THIS UNCOMFORTABLE, AND IT'S JUST FEELS ABRASIVE TO OUR PRIVACY. THANK YOU.

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR DAY.

>> I HAVE A CARD FROM KATHLEEN CIPRIANO, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? GOOD. IF ALL WOULD DO ME A FAVOR, ALSO, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD JUST SO IT'S CLEAR.

>> KATHLEEN CIPRIANO, 350 BINKLEY COURT.

>> LOU CIPRIANO, 350 BINKLEY COURT.

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>> I BROUGHT HIM FOR SECURITY.

WE HAVE LIVED AT 350 BINKLEY COURT FOR OVER 23 YEARS NOW.

WHAT WAS MY STARTER HOME, OUR STARTER HOME IS BECOMING OUR EMPTY NESTER HOME.

WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SOUTH VIEW IS AN AMAZING NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE LARGE LOTS, WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL HOMES.

MANY OF THE HOMES DO BACK UP TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON CARROLL AVENUE, AND THERE'S NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM.

THEY'RE THE ONE STORY, 8-5 BUSINESS, AND PEOPLE EVEN APPRECIATE THAT HAVING THAT QUIET TIME AND FREQUENTLY THEY KEEP UP THE FENCE, THE SHARED FENCE, TOO, SO THAT'S BEEN A WIN WIN.

AGAIN, WITH THE TIMING OF THIS, NOT MANY PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.

WHEN WE STARTED MAKING THE CALLS, PEOPLE WERE LIKE, WE'RE OUT OF TOWN.

OH MY GOSH, WE CAN'T F. I WANTED TO IF IT'S OKAY, WE HAD NEIGHBORS, THE SPACE WHO LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND US AND THEIR BACK FENCE ABUT THIS PROPERTY AS WELL.

THEY WANTED TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION AS WELL.

IS THAT OKAY? I READ THAT.

>> AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE LITTLE LIGHTS THERE, SO HAVE THAT IT UNTIL IT TURNS RED.

>> THE SPACE AT 1050 B LANE.

WE OPPOSE FOR NUMEROUS REASONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO VIOLATES CURTAIN REGULATIONS.

THREE STORY FACILITY WOULD ALLOW FOR UNOBSTRUCTED VIEWS INTO OUR BACKYARD AND RESIDENTS.

WE HAVE A MINOR CHILD AND HIS MINOR FRIENDS WHO COME TO OUR HOUSE.

ALSO CONCERNS THAT THIS WOULD BE AGAINST THE NOISE AND LIGHTING ORDINANCE NEAR A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS CHANGE.

>> WELL, JUST TO COMMENT ON WHAT KATHLEEN JUST SAID.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS.

I THINK THAT THERE'D BE A LOT MORE PEOPLE HERE.

I KNOW THERE WOULD BE FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IF EVERYBODY HAD SOME TIME TO DIGEST WHAT'S HAPPENING.

WE'RE DEFINITELY OPPOSED TO IT.

WE LIVED THERE FOR 23 YEARS.

IT'S BEEN A QUIET CUL-DE-SAC.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THE INITIAL PLAN, BUT THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.

WE STRONGLY OPPOSED.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT CARD IS FROM HELEN PEARSON, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? IF YOU WOULD, DO US A FAVOR AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> HELEN PEARSON, 470 SOUTH VIEW TRAIL.

I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 33 YEARS NOW IN SOUTH VIEW.

I'M FURTHER AWAY FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.

BUT AS THEY HAVE STATED, THIS IS ON A HILL.

IT'S EVEN GOING TO BE HIGHER WITH THAT THIRD LEVEL.

THE DRIVE THROUGH BANK, HOW MANY BANKS HAVE WE SEEN DRIVE THROUGH BANKS ALREADY CLOSED DOWN IN THIS CITY? WE WERE PROMISED THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE SOME HIGH END RETAIL AND SOME WE'RE CHANGING THE PLAN AGAIN, ADDING A BAR, EVEN IF IT'S PRIVATE TO THE THIRD LEVEL.

I CAN HEAR THINGS FROM TOWN SQUARE ALL THE TIME, WHICH WE CAN ENJOY BECAUSE WE CAN TELL WHICH BANDS ARE REALLY GOOD, AND WE GET UP AND GO WALK TO TOWN SQUARE.

BUT I JUST FEEL FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING BACK THERE, THEY'VE TORN DOWN ALL THE TREES.

THERE'S NO BARRIERS, THE NOISE LEVELS GOING TO REACH FURTHER.

I SAID, MANY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T GET A CHANCE.

WE ONLY HEARD ABOUT IT TWO DAYS AGO, SO I DON'T HAVE A REAL GOOD SPEECH PREPARED.

BUT THEY CAN SWITCH IT AGAIN LATER WITH A THIRD FLOOR AND ADD A FULL FLEDGED BAR OR A RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING.

YOU APPROVE A RESTAURANT OR A BAR? IT CAN CHANGE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL AFRAID OF.

BECAUSE HERE WE ARE ON A THIRD FLOOR INSTEAD OF THE FIRST GARDEN FLOORS LIKE WE HAVE ON ALL THE OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

ANYWAY, JUST OPPOSED.

I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. I HAVE SEVERAL COMMENT FORMS THAT I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD FOR PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT BE HERE, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WELL, LET ME READ THESE OFF.

I'VE GOT QUITE A FEW, SO IT MIGHT TAKE A FEW MINUTES.

BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN, AS THEY'VE INDICATED IN THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS.

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THESE ARE NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER, BUT I HAVE ONE FROM DON KNOWLES WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

ARE YOU HERE, DON? NO. WE'LL RECORD HER OR HIS SUPPORT.

ESAN MARCUS DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

JULIE WALTER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

APRIL PAM DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

CARLY GREEN WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM.

ARE YOU HERE, CARLY? NO. WE'LL RECORD THE SUPPORT.

BRITTANY DOWDY DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

KEN SHEFFIELD DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

TREVOR TACKER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

JOEY MILLNER DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

MICHAEL WILSON DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

SHELLY MORGAN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

MARIAN SCOGGINS WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

ARE YOU HERE, MARIAN BY ANY CHANCE? WE'LL RECORD THAT SUPPORT.

STEVE BOB DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

MARK BRYAN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

JEFF FERRAND DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

JOY L. SINSKI, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

JOHN YOUNG DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

MARK AUSTIN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

ANDREA MCKEE, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

LUE CUBBARD, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

BECKY KELLOGG WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM.

BECKY, ARE YOU HERE? BECKY'S NOT HERE, BUT RECORDING SUPPORT.

CHAD RAY DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

DARLA STAPLETON DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

MARTIN SHELLING DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

TAYLOR GILLIAN WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

ARE YOU HERE, TAYLOR? WE'VE GOT TAYLOR IDENTIFIED AS IN SUPPORT.

JOE CAMPERIN.

DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

ALLEN SCOGGINS WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

ALLEN, ARE YOU HERE? ALLEN'S NOT HERE.

WE'LL NOTE THAT SUPPORT.

HEIDI BRYAN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

WE HAVE A FEW MORE BEAR WITH ME HERE.

BRIAN GODDEN WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. IS BRIAN HERE.

NO BRIAN. CAMMY NICHOLS WISHES TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT.

NO CAMMY, I TAKE IT.

ROXANNE TAYLOR DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

SHERRY BOWLES DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

MORGAN GRANDY WISHES TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT, OR YOU HEAR MORGAN? NO MORGAN WILL RECORD THAT.

WILLIAM QUINN WISHES TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT. WHERE IS WILLIAM? NO. JESSICA ADCOCK IS OPPOSED.

ARE YOU HERE JESSICA? NO. WE'LL RECORD THAT SUPPORT.

ELIZABETH HUFFMAN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WISHES TO RECORD SUPPORT.

AUSTIN ARNOLD WISHES TO RECORD OPPOSITION.

ARE YOU HERE, AUSTIN? WE ALREADY DID THAT ONE? JOHN LOYD.

WANTS TO VOICE STRONG OPPOSITION, THAT'S RECORDED.

KATHLEEN CIPRIANO.

WE HEARD FROM YOU, KATHLEEN.

IN OPPOSITION. COURTNEY LOYD.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE ALREADY READ THAT ONE, WISHES TO RECORD OPPOSITION.

THEN FINALLY, TAYLOR COLE WISHES TO RECORD OPPOSITION.

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I'VE READ ALL OF THE COMMENT CARDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FORMS IN OPPOSITION IN SUPPORT.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK AT THIS TIME? YES SIR COME ON DOWN.

HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? VERY GOOD.

IF YOU WOULD BE KIND ENOUGH TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> I'M DUNE G. I LIVE AT 925 SOUTH VIEW TRAIL.

I'M IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BACKS UP TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

ORIGINALLY, ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE I'M PART OF THE HOA BOARD.

I WAS OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT AS IT CURRENTLY SUBMITTED.

>> IT'S BEEN PUT IN DESPITE A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE ISSUED AT THE TIME.

NOW, THIS NEW CHANGE OF A THIRD FLOOR OFFERS ANOTHER CHALLENGE.

I THINK IF ALL OF YOU WERE LIVING NEXT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHILE TWO STORIES IS A TALL BUILDING, THREE, DEFINITELY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

THE THREE STORY, IT WILL PROVIDE MORE LIGHT INTO THE BACK YARDS.

AND FOR THE REASONS THAT OUR HOMEOWNERS, THE TWO THAT DID SHOW UP, THE SAME REASONS THAT THEY RECITED, I HAVE TO LEAN TOWARDS OPPOSITION TOWARDS THIS AS WELL.

I THINK THIS LAST MINUTE CHANGE AFTER IT WAS JUST RECENTLY APPROVED AS A TWO-STORY BUILDING IS CATCHING UP EVERYONE OFF GUARD.

AND THE FACT THAT THEY'VE ROTATED IT, IT MIGHT SOFTEN THE BLOW A LITTLE BIT, BUT I STILL HEAR THAT 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL AND HER CONCERNS, AND THAT GIVES ME CAUSE OF CONCERN.

I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE IT AS WELL.

BUT I KNOW A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENED BETWEEN P AND Z AND THE TIME IT'S ULTIMATELY REACHES CITY COUNCIL.

BUT I JUST ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT THOSE FAMILIES THAT LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE IT IS AND [INAUDIBLE] BYE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? DO WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AGAIN OR?

>> ALL OF THESE THAT SPOKE IN SUPPORT, DO WE KNOW THE ADDRESSES AND LOCATION OF ALL THOSE THAT ARE SPEAKING IN SUPPORT? WERE THEY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ARE THEY JUST RANDOM AROUND THE CITY?

>> THEY'RE ALL RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS THAT'LL GO IN THE RECORD.

>> I DID CHECK AND WE'VE GOT EIGHT OF THEM ARE FROM COMMERCIAL USES ACROSS THE STREET.

WE'VE GOT ONE IN IRVING, ONE IN FORT WORTH, ONE IN EULESS, AND THEN MOST OF THE SOUTH LAKE ONES ARE NOT DIRECTLY NEAR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? AND JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

>> IN GENERAL, THE THIRD STORY IS NOT AS BIG OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE SIGHT LINES AND ALL THAT.

THE DRIVE THROUGH FOR THE BANK, I DON'T THINK IS AN ISSUE AT ALL.

IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND THAT'S PROBABLY A DEAL MAKER, QUITE FRANKLY, FOR A BANK TO GO THERE, AND YOU WOULD HATE TO TURN THAT AWAY.

BUT I THINK PERSONALLY, HEARING THE NEIGHBORS THAT LIVED NEXT DOOR DEALING WITH A BAR, I WOULD BE VERY OPPOSED TO THAT AND HAVE TO JUST SAY THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER GUNTER, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> I THINK THE WAY IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IS SUFFICIENT TO MAXIMIZE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTIES.

>> COMMISSIONER DRISCOLL, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID, AND WE WERE PRETTY ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THE THIRD FLOOR THE LAST TIME WE SAW THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY COME THROUGH.

>> COMMISSIONER PHALEN?

>> I DON'T THINK I COULD GET ON BOARD WITH THIS.

THIS IS A QUITE A DRASTIC CHANGE IN MY OPINION, ADDING THE THIRD FLOOR AND A BAR USE.

IT'S JUST COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE APPROVED, SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. TO CLARIFY, DENNIS AND CURTIS, YOU MAY ALSO CLARIFY HERE, A DENIAL WOULD DENY NOT ONLY THE THIRD FLOOR, BUT THE BANK USE?

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>> NOT NECESSARILY THE BANK USE SINCE IT'S PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE DISTRICT, BUT IF YOU DENY THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT MAY ESSENTIALLY DENY THE BANK OR THE BANK MAY NOT WANT TO OCCUPY IT IF THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT SERVICE WITH IT.

THAT MAY INHIBIT THE USE OF THE BANK.

>> THE REASON I'M ASKING, CURTIS, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE HEARD THE SENTIMENT UP HERE IN TERMS OF BANK USE AND DRIVE THROUGH AND THIRD STORY.

IT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR HOW FOUR OF THE FIVE ARE GOING TO VOTE, AT LEAST.

SO DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE OF TRYING TO SPLIT ANYTHING OUT OR?

>> WELL, BEING THAT YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE COOL WITH THE BANK AND THE DRIVE THROUGH, BUT YOU'RE NOT COOL WITH THE CLUB.

I AGREE WITH DAVID. I DON'T THINK THE THIRD FLOOR IS AN ISSUE AT ALL.

WE'VE SHOWN HOW YOU WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM THERE.

BUT IF IT'S THE USE INSTEAD, THEN PERHAPS YOU COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL THAT YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE BANK AND THE DRIVE THROUGH PORTION OF IT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOOD WITH THE USE OF THE BAR.

OR TAYLOR RECOMMENDATION IN THAT I ASSUME THAT'S ALLOWED.

>> YES. THE COMMISSION CAN PUT FORTH YOUR RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS WHAT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF WITH THIS PLAN AND PORTIONS OF IT THAT YOU DO NOT WISH TO APPROVE RATHER THAN JUST AN OUT RIGHT DENIAL, IF THAT'S THE POSITION YOU HAVE.

I MIGHT ADD TOO THAT THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE, BUT THEY HAVE COUPLED THIS WITH THE SITE PLAN IN ORDER TO GO VERTICAL ON THE STRUCTURE.

SO IF THE ENTIRE APPLICATION IS DENIED AND THEN MOVES FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND DOES NOT RECEIVE APPROVAL, THEY WOULD NEED TO RESUBMIT FOR A SITE PLAN AT THE VERY LEAST WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE IN THEIR TZD ZONING FOR THIS SITE.

>> ANY THOUGHTS ON THE BANK AND THE DRIVE THROUGH GIVEN WHAT THE CONSENSUS APPEARS TO BE ON THE THIRD STORY?

>> I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH OR THE BANK.

>> I DON'T EITHER. BUT WAS THE IMPLICATION THAT THE THIRD STORY WOULD BE INCLUDED STILL AT A DIFFERENT USE OR?

>> NO. I THINK THE POINT THAT I WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH HIM WAS, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THE THIRD STORY AND THE USE OF THE THIRD STORY ARE GOING TO GO, AND SO RATHER THAN HAVE THEM COME BACK AND DEAL WITH THE BANK AND THE DRIVE THROUGH LATER, THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A LOT OF OPPOSITION TO THAT, SO MAYBE WE COULD CRAFT OUR RECOMMENDATION ALONG THOSE LINES.

>> I AM NOT WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN FAVOR OF THE BANK AND THE DRIVE THROUGH, BUT IF THAT'S A COMPROMISE TO ELIMINATE THE THIRD FLOOR AND THE USE OF THE THIRD FLOOR, I WOULD BE ON BOARD WITH SUPPORTING A MOTION IF THAT'S HOW IT'S CRAFTED.

>> GOT YOU. THANKS, CURTIS.

>> THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER 7, I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> AND DO YOU WANT TO ADD ENDS SUBJECT TO THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER ONE, DATED NOVEMBER 14, 2025?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> NOVEMBER 14.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> VERY GOOD. DENNIS, IS THAT A MOTION THAT WILL MAKE SENSE TO COUNCIL?

>> YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

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THAT ITEM MOVES FORWARD 5:0 WITH TWO ABSTENTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T HERE.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT, AND THAT WILL GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON WHAT DATE, DENNIS?

>> JANUARY 6. EXCUSE ME.

FIRST READING WILL BE DECEMBER 2.

>> DECEMBER 2 WILL BE CITY COUNCIL.

>> IF APPROVED AND MOVE FORWARD TO SECOND READING, THAT WOULD NOT BE UNTIL JANUARY 6.

>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU ALL.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 8, ZA25-0069.

[8. Consider: ZA25-0069, Site Plan for White’s Chapel Methodist Church, on property described as Lot 1R, Block 1, White Chapel Methodist Church Addition and located at 185 S. White Chapel Boulevard. Current Zoning: “CS” Community Service District. SPIN Neighborhood #9. PUBLIC HEARING]

>> GOOD EVENING. I'LL BE GOING OVER ITEM 8.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN FOR WHITE'S CHAPEL METHODIST CHURCH, LOCATED AT 185 SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

FUTURE LAND USE IS DESIGNATED AS PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC, AND IT IS CS, COMMUNITY SERVICE ZONE.

THIS IS A STREET VIEW FROM SOUTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD AND FROM EAST SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD.

THIS IS AN INTERNAL STREET VIEW FROM THE DRIVEWAY SHOWING THE SITE OF THE PROPOSED ADDITION AND ANOTHER VIEW SHOWING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER FACING EAST OF WHERE THIS PROPOSED ADDITION WOULD BE PLACED.

THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN OF THE PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.

AND THIS IS SHOWING THE PROPOSED ADDITION UP ON THAT NORTHERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY.

THE ZOOMED INVERSION, SHOWING THE 9,942 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO BE USED FOR RESOURCE AND MAINTENANCE USES.

HERE'S THE FENCING PLAN SHOWING WHERE WROUGHT IRON AND WOOD SLAT FENCES WOULD BE PLACED AROUND THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE FOUNDERS GARDEN.

THIS IS THE SITE DATA SUMMARY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WILL BE A REDUCTION OF 17 TOTAL PARKING SPACES, BUT THEY WILL STILL BE WELL ABOVE THE REQUIRED PARKING FOR THE SITE.

HERE ARE THE SOUTH AND EAST ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED ADDITION AND THE NORTH AND WEST ELEVATIONS AS WELL.

NO RESPONSES FOR OR AGAINST HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 8? HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING, SIR?

>> I'M GOOD. HOW ARE YOU?

>> PRETTY GOOD, IF YOU WOULD FOLLOW THE DRILL THERE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD?

>> BRANT KLEIN, 1921, STATE HIGHWAY 121, LEWISVILLE.

WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A FAIRLY SIMPLE ONE.

ON PREVIOUS SITE PLAN, THERE WAS TO BE AN ADDITION ONTO THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, AND WE JUST WANT TO BOLD OUT AWAY FROM THAT, TAKE DOWN THE OLD BARN THAT HAS SEEN BETTER DAYS AND PUT IT ALL TOGETHER TO BLEND IN WITH THE CAMPUS.

SEEMED LIKE A PRETTY EVEN SWAP, AND IT WILL BE A REPLACEMENT FOR THE EXISTING, EXCUSE ME, RESOURCE BUILDING, WHICH IS THE HOUSE THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE DRIVE.

AND THE FOUNDERS GARDEN WOULD BE REPLANTED THAT'S BEHIND THAT RESOURCE CENTER IN FRONT OF THIS.

AND IF YOU HAVE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THE FOUNDERS GARDEN, YOU OUGHT TO GO WANDER THROUGH.

IT'S A PRETTY NICE LITTLE GARDEN THAT PUT TOGETHER.

QUESTIONS?

>> VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> PRETTY EASY TONIGHT.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 8 ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 8.

SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 8 IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> AND JUST BEFORE MAKING A MOTION, MAKE SURE YOUR MIC IS ON, SO WE PICK THAT UP, RED LIGHT.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE ZA25-0069, SITE PLAN FOR WHITE CHAPEL METHODIST CHURCH BASED ON STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 14, 2025.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

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>> I SECOND.

>> PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES 5:0.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT AND FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 9,

[9. Consider: ZA25-0070, Plat Revision for The Oaks, for property described as Tract 2F, F. Throop Survey Abstract No. 1511 and Lots 1 and 3, Block 1, The Hill Addition, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 2140 and 2160 E. Highland Street and 1440 N. Kimball Avenue. Current Zoning: “SF-1A” Single Family Residential District. SPIN Neighborhood #4. PUBLIC HEARING]

ZA25-0070, WHICH IS A PLAT REVISION FOR THE OAKS.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'LL BE GOING OVER ITEM 9, A PLAT REVISION FOR THE OAKS.

PROPERTY LOCATION IS 2160 AND 2140 EAST HIGHLAND AND 1440 NORTH KIMBALL.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, JUST NORTH OF HIGHLAND AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF KIMBALL.

FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND IT IS ZONED SF-1A SINGLE FAMILY.

HERE'S A STREET VIEW FROM NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE AND FROM EAST HIGHLAND FACING NORTH.

THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT WAS APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR IN SEPTEMBER, SHOWING 11 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, ALL BEING ONE ACRE OR MORE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLAT REVISION, SHOWING THE SAME LOTS ALL OVER AN ACRE AS WELL.

HERE IS THE GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN AND THE UTILITY PLAN, AND THIS IS THE TREE CONSERVATION PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY.

NO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR OR AGAINST.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT FOR STAFF? I'M TRYING TO JUMP THE GUN HERE. THANK YOU.