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[1. Call to Order.]

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR FEBRUARY 19, 2026. WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT IT'S RELATIVELY SHORT, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ITEMS OUT OF ORDER WITH THE GOAL THAT IT'LL MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT AND MOVE A LITTLE MORE QUICKLY.

I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT'LL HAPPEN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT A SHOT. SO JUST FOR EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'S LOOKING WE'RE GOING TO START AND KIND OF GO IN REVERSE ORDER. SO WE'LL START WITH NUMBER 11 AND THEN TAKE 9 AND 10 TOGETHER AND 6, 7 AND 8 TOGETHER.

BEFORE WE GET TO THAT I WANT TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER THREE AND ASK IF THERE'S ANY ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS.

NO COMMENTS THIS EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. CHAIRMAN COMMENTS. NONE OTHER THAN OUR CHAIRMAN IS OUT AND WE'LL WISH HIM WELL ON HIS TRAVELS AND WHEN HE GETS BACK FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

[4. Chairman Comments.]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 5, CONSIDERATION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON FEBRUARY 5,

[5. Consider: Approving the minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held on February 5, 2026.]

2026. EVERYBODY'S BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THOSE AND HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW.

IF THERE'S NO CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS EDITS OR ANYTHING, THEN WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THOSE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 5TH, 2026 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AS PRESENTED.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT ITEM CARRIES FOUR ZERO. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, AS I SAID, WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 11.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT ATTENDED PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING BEFORE WILL HAVE A ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION.

AND THEN THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. AND AT THAT POINT THEN WE TAKE A VOTE.

SO WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 11 ZA26-0008 A PLAT REVISION FOR DOVE RIDGE ADDITION.

[11. Consider: ZA26-0008, Plat Revision for Dove Ridge Addition, (formerly known as Cardinal Court Addition), being a revision of Lot 9 and Lot 57R, F. Throop No. 1511 Addition, City of Southlake, Tarrant County, Texas and located at 2080 and 2117 E. Dove Rd. Current Zoning: "SF-1A" Single Family Residential District. SPIN Neighborhood #4. PUBLIC HEARING]

GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND BOARD. I WILL BE PRESENTING ITEM 11 PLAT REVISION FOR DOVE RIDGE ADDITION.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR PLAT REVISION.

DESCRIBED AS LOT 9 AND LOT 57R LOCATED AT 2080 AND 2117 EAST DOVE ROAD.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS FOR SEVEN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND ONE OPEN SPACE LOT.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED OFF OF DOVE AND KIMBALL.

THE FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THE CURRENT ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY IS SF-1A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THIS IS A STREET VIEW OFF OF EAST DOVE ROAD FACING SOUTH.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLOT REVISION WITH THE SEVEN LOTS AND THE OPEN SPACE LOT.

THIS WAS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLOT.

THE EXISTING DRAINAGE PLAN. THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN.

THE UTILITY PLAN. TREE CONSERVATION PLAN. AND THIS WAS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED VARIANCE WITH THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ALLOWING THE PROPOSED STREET TO BE DESIGNED AND DESIGNATED AS A PRIVATE STREET WITH AN ENTRY AND GATE.

AND THIS IS AN EXHIBIT SHOWING THAT ENTRY AND EXIT AND GATE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND COMPLIES WITH THE PRIOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.

TRUE. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 11? YES, SIR. DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING OR.

OKAY. GOOD CHOICE. ITEM NUMBER 11 ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I THINK THIS IS A PLAT REVISION.

IT'S GENERALLY A MINISTERIAL ACT FOR THIS BODY, SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF LATITUDE FOR US TO CHANGE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.

SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, I'D BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 11. ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 11, WHICH IS CASE ZA26-0008, REFERENCING THE STAFF REPORT DATED FEBRUARY THE 13TH OF 2026 AND FURTHER REFERENCING THE PLAT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER ONE DATED

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2-13 OF 26. VERY GOOD. HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES THREE, ONE. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD LUCK GOING FORWARD.

WE ARE MOVING ALONG QUICKLY HERE AT CITY GOVERNMENT.

LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER NINE AND TEN, WHICH WILL TAKE TOGETHER ITEM NUMBER 9 ZA26-0006 AND ITEM NUMBER 10

[Items 9 & 10]

ZA26-0007. ALL RIGHT. I'M HERE TO PRESENT ITEMS NINE AND TEN, WHICH IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND CONCEPT PLAN AND PLOT REVISION FOR CARROLL ISD.

SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWERS, ANTENNAS OR ANCILLARY STRUCTURES, AND THEN A PLAT REVISION FOR THE CARROLL ISD PROPERTY.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THAT PROPERTY. FUTURE LAND USES PUBLIC/SEMIPUBLIC PUBLIC.

CURRENT ZONING IS CS FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE DISTRICT.

AND HERE IS A STREET VIEW FROM NORTH CARROLL AVENUE LOOKING SOUTHWEST ONTO THE PROPERTY.

ANOTHER STREET VIEW FROM CARROLL LOOKING NORTHWEST AND ONE FROM EAST OF ROAD LOOKING NORTH.

HERE IS THE EXISTING TOWER SHOWING THE MONOPOLE IN THE MIDDLE THERE, SURROUNDED BY LOW COMPOUND STRUCTURE.

THEY ARE JUST GOING TO BE MOVING IT TO THE SOUTH OF THIS CURRENT LOCATION, KEEPING THE SAME ESTHETIC FEEL OF THE CURRENT LOOK.

AND HERE IS A SLIDE SHOWING THE PROPOSED NEW LOCATION OF THAT TOWER.

SO HERE'S KIND OF A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF IT. IT'S GOING TO BE MOVING SOUTH APPROXIMATELY 260FT ONTO THE PROPERTY CLOSER TO CARROLL ISD ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. AND HERE'S A CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE.

AND THEN FOR THE PLAT REVISION THEY WILL BE REPLATING TO TWO LOTS WITH THE FIRST LOT BEING THE OLD DRAGON STADIUM ADDITION, LOT ONE, AND THEN THE SOUTHERN LOT BEING LOT 1R FOR CARROLL ISD ADDITION NUMBER THREE.

AND THEN HERE IS A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY SHOWING THE PROPOSED NEW LOT BOUNDARY.

THEY ARE REQUESTING A FEW VARIANCES. THE TOP TWO HERE ARE WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND REQUESTED IN RELATION TO THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE ORIGINAL MONOPOLE.

THE FIRST ONE BEING A VARIANCE OF THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT AND THE SECOND ONE A VARIANCE OF THE CO-LOCATION.

AND THEN THE NEW NEWLY REQUESTED VARIANCE IS FOR THE SETBACKS.

THIS ONE IS BASICALLY A VARIANCE. AS WE HAVE IT IN OUR ORDINANCE, IT NEEDS TO FALL WITHIN THE CURRENT BOUNDARY THAT IT'S LOCATED IN.

AND RIGHT NOW IT'S SET TO BE APPROXIMATELY 40FT FROM THE BOUNDARY LINE, AND IT'S 115 FOOT TALL MONOPOLE.

SO IF IT WERE TO FALL, IT WOULD DEFINITELY FALL OUTSIDE THAT BOUNDARY LINE.

SO THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO THAT. AND THEN SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS RESPONSE IS NOTHING WITHIN 300.

WE DID GET ONE RESPONSE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 300.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE HAVE IS KIND OF THREE COMPONENTS HERE.

WE'RE REPLATING IT, SPLITTING IT INTO TWO DIFFERENT LOTS.

WE'RE APPROVING OR WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE THE VARIANCES THAT WERE APPROVED ORIGINALLY, AND THEN WE'RE MOVING THE TOWER. IS THAT KIND OF A FAIR SUMMARY? CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NOPE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON ITEMS NINE AND TEN? YES, SIR. HOW ARE YOU? GREAT. COME ON DOWN. IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND IF YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.

I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION. I'M LANNY MOONEY. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES FOR CARROLL ISD. OKAY.

AS YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE WANTING TO MOVE THE CELL TOWER 300FT TO THE SOUTH, 260FT TO THE SOUTH.

WE HAVE A PLAT REVISION. AND FOR THE HOPEFULLY THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.

SURE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THANK YOU. SIR. THANK YOU. MIGHT NEED YOU BACK UP HERE IN A MINUTE. LET'S SEE HOW THE PUBLIC HEARING GOES. YES, SIR. ITEMS NINE AND TEN.

AGAIN, WE'RE TAKING TOGETHER, AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS TOGETHER.

ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON EITHER OF THESE ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. ENERGETIC CROWD TONIGHT. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IF THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENTS, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY TAKE THESE SEPARATELY.

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CORRECT, DENNIS? YES. YES, CHAIRMAN. OKAY, SO IF WE COULD MAYBE GET A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, AGAIN, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE VARIANCES. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NINE, CASE ZA26-0006 DATED FEBRUARY THE 13TH OF 2026 AND FURTHER REFERENCING THE SPECIFIC USE REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER ONE DATED 2-13 OF 26.

AND APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCES. OH, I'M SORRY AND NOTING APPROVAL OF ALL THE VARIANCES.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THAT ITEM CARRIES FOUR ZERO. AND THEN WE'LL DO THE SAME ON ITEM NUMBER TEN.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM TEN, REFERENCING THE STAFF REPORT DATED FEBRUARY THE 13TH OF 2026.

I'M SORRY, IN CASE ZA26-0007. FURTHER REFERENCING THE PLAT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER ONE DATED 2-13-26 AND APPROVAL OF ALL ASKED VARIANCES. ALL RIGHT.

AND TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S NO VARIANCES. I'M SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY. ON THE PLAT REVISION. JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON ITEM NUMBER TEN? SECOND PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES FOUR, ZERO. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. FINAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

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AGAIN, WE'LL TAKE THEM TOGETHER. ITEMS SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT.

ALL RELATED TO WHAT'S AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN AS THE SNO-CONE STAND SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

GOOD EVENING. THIS IS FOR ITEM SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT.

SOUTHLAKE SNO-CONE STAND 1170 AND 1180 NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SITE SPECIFIC LAND USE AMENDMENT, A ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN, AND A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THIS IS THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED OFF OF, WEST HIGHLAND BOULEVARD AND NORTH WHITE CHAPEL.

THE FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO THIS SITE IS TO RETAIN THE UNDERLYING LAND USE DESIGNATION OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND TO ADD A SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION TO ONLY ALLOW LIMITED LOW INTENSITY RETAIL SERVICES, AND IF THIS IS APPROVED, THE TEXT WILL BE ADDED AS A RECOMMENDATION CALLED CL-U3 TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS AGRICULTURE. AND THE PROPOSED ZONING FOR THIS WILL BE S-P-1 DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT AND SHALL PERMIT ONLY OPEN SPACE AND AFFILIATED USES AS APPROVED ON THE SITE PLAN AND INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SALES AND SERVICES.

FOR THE SALE OF SHAVED ICE OR SNO-CONES, HOT CHOCOLATE, SIMILAR FOOD AND BEVERAGE ITEMS AND RELATED ACCESSORIES AS AUTHORIZED THROUGH THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THIS IS A STREET VIEW FROM NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD FACING WEST.

THE STREET VIEW FROM WEST HIGHLAND STREET FACING EAST.

AND THIS IS STREET VIEW FROM WEST HIGHLAND STREET FACING SOUTH. THIS IS SHOWING THE ZONING CHANGE SITE PLAN AND SUP WHICH IS ONLY PERMITTED THROUGH THESE THREE. THEN NOTING THAT THE DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE GRANULATED GRANITE AND GRAVEL.

SORRY. AND IT'S ONLY ONE WAY THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

THIS IS THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN. THIS IS OUR ELEVATIONS AND NOTING THAT SIGNAGE IS BEING REQUESTED THROUGH THE SUP.

THEIR DEMOLITION PLAN. REMODEL PLAN. AND AS OF NOW, THERE ARE NO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE ON THIS ITEM? HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING? GOOD. PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. AND THEN GO AHEAD AND SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT.

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SURE. GOOD EVENING. I'M JOHN CORNELSEN, FOUNDER OF EVOLVING TEXAS LAND PLANNING AND ENGINEERING FIRM IN FORT WORTH, 3000 RACE STREET, FORT WORTH. YEAH, I'M MITCHELL ALLEN.

I'M THE LANDOWNER AND NEIGHBOR TO IT AT 1150 NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD.

OKAY. AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR A WHILE.

INITIALLY WENT THROUGH CORRIDOR LAST JUNE AND WENT THROUGH SPIN IN AUGUST.

REALLY TRYING TO WORK CAREFULLY WITH STAFF TO EVEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT WITH MY EXPERIENCE, I THOUGHT, WELL, THIS THIS CAN'T HAPPEN IN THIS PARTICULAR SPOT.

BUT REALLY, THE MORE I HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT'S BEHIND IT, IT JUST SEEMED TO MAKE MORE AND MORE SENSE.

AND SO WE HAD ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY STAFF AND TRIED TO FIND A WAY THAT WOULD MAKE IT WORK.

AND SO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THAT TONIGHT AND HAVE MITCHELL SHARE SOME OF HIS VISION FOR THE BUSINESS AND THE PURPOSE BEHIND IT.

BUT THE ALLEN'S LIVE IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.

IN FACT, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR HISTORY HERE IN SOUTHLAKE. YEAH. SO I'VE LIVED IN SOUTHLAKE SINCE 2008, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN THAT. ALL MY KIDS, ABOUT TO HAVE MY THIRD GRADUATE HERE.

HAVE A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES HERE AND REALLY ACTIVE IN THE ENTREPRENEURIAL MARKET AS WELL AS JUST INTERNET MARKETING AND ACTIVE MEMBER OF SOUTHLAKE.

SO I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, AND HOPING TO TAKE THIS AND CREATE A SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE AS WELL AS TO TEACH ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND GIVE BACK TO THE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.

PERFECT. YEAH. I'VE ACTUALLY KNOWN MITCHELL FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.

SO THIS CASE IS PERSONAL TO ME, TOO. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING, WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, THESE THREE SPECIFIC REQUESTS.

BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS VERY CREATIVE IN WORKING WITH STAFF TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS COULD HAPPEN AND PRESERVE THE INTENTION, THE LONG TERM PLAN FOR THE LAND, WHICH IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO THE FIRST THING YOU SEE IS YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN TO OPEN SPACE WHILE PRESERVING THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

SECOND, YOU HAVE IT GOING FROM AG TO S-P-1, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO THEN RESTRICT US TO AN EXACT PLAN.

AND THEN THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE AN EXACT PLAN, BUT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT IN A SUNSET CLAUSE THAT FORCES US TO STAY ON MISSION, FORCES US TO MAKE IT WORK CONTINUALLY, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK BEFORE YOU GUYS FOR ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE FUTURE, WHICH WE ARE WILLING TO DO. I THINK FIRST THING I'LL SHOW YOU REAL QUICK IS THIS BOUNDARY AND TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEY AND TREE SURVEY. AS YOU CAN TELL, THIS SITE IS HEAVILY TREED.

THERE ARE A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL TREES HERE. WHEN THE ALLEN'S BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, I THINK HOW MANY MOBILE HOMES WERE ON THE PROPERTY? THERE WERE FIVE. FIVE MOBILE HOMES ON THE PROPERTY. THOSE HAVE BEEN REMOVED. THE TREES HAVE BEEN CLEANED UP. IT'S BEAUTIFULLY LANDSCAPED. I MEAN, IT REALLY IS IS GORGEOUS TODAY.

AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PRESERVATION.

AND THE MORE AND MORE DENSE IT GETS, ACTUALLY, THE REQUIREMENTS GO DOWN, RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT EXPECTED TO TO KEEP EVERYTHING.

BUT WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN. AND THE GOAL WAS SIMPLY PUT TO KEEP 100% OF THE TREES.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO TOUCH A SINGLE TREE. AND WE HAVEN'T.

SO WE DESIGNED THIS PLAN WITH THAT IN MIND. AND ALSO THE SURFACE IS DECOMPOSED GRANITE.

I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONCRETE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADD FOR THE HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACE.

AND THE SIDEWALK FROM THERE TO THE FRONT DOOR SO THAT YOU'RE NOT ROLLING A WHEELCHAIR, OBVIOUSLY, THROUGH DECOMPOSED GRANITE. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT IS, IT'S GOING TO BE DECOMPOSED GRANITE AND EXISTING PAVEMENT THAT'S ALREADY THERE TODAY. AND, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IMPERVIOUS USE ALL THE THINGS WHEN YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THE STAFF, REPORT ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE MET. I COULD HAVE ALMOST USED THAT FOR MY SPEECH.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TRYING TO PRESERVE EVERY BIT OF WHAT'S THERE TODAY.

WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TECHNICALLY TO HAVE INTERIOR LANDSCAPING, BUT WE'RE PROPOSING IT. WE WANT TO DO THAT. WE WANT THIS TO BE A FIRST CLASS, BEAUTIFUL PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE. SO WE WILL HAVE SOME LANDSCAPE ENHANCEMENT AROUND THE BUILDING AND AROUND THE ENTRANCE.

STAFF MENTIONED THIS IS THE ELEVATION WE'RE TAKING. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ADDING A STRUCTURE. WE'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING TO THE STRUCTURE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIMPLE REUSE OF AN EXISTING FACILITY CLEAN IT UP STABILIZE IT ON THE INSIDE, MAYBE MOVE A COUPLE OF WALLS, CREATE SOME COMMUNITY SPACE, AND, ADD A SIGN, ADD SIGNAGE.

I THINK THE INTENT IS TO BE SOMEWHAT LIKE THIS.

WE MAY END UP THE WORDS MAY SAY SOUTHLAKE SNO OR SNO-CONE OR SNOW-CONES.

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BUT OR THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE A W, BUT IT'S CLOSE TO THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE.

AND I THINK AS LONG AS WE'RE WITHIN THE GENERAL INTENT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.

BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AGAIN WHY SUPPORT? I THINK THIS IS, FIRST OF ALL, TEMPORARY AND LIMITED USE. THIS IS SEASONAL.

THIS IS GOING TO BE DURING THE SUMMER. AND THEN, AS HE MENTIONED HIRE SANTA AS ONE OF HIS BUSINESSES DOES A LOT OF WORK AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME AND SO WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING THERE FOR CHRISTMAS WITH HOT CHOCOLATE MAYBE SOME SEASONAL TREATS.

THERE'S ZERO INCREASE OF INTENSITY. WE'RE REUSING AN EXISTING STRUCTURE.

IF ANYTHING, WE'RE TAKING THINGS OUT, CLEANING THEM UP.

TRAFFIC WILL BE CONTAINED ON SITE. WE HAD A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE THAT DEMONSTRATED THAT TO STAFF THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT TO THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT IT IS WELL WITHIN THE CAPACITY AND DOES NOT WARRANT ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS.

100% TREE PRESERVATION, AS I MENTIONED, YOUTH ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND EMPLOYMENT.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE COOLEST PARTS. I'VE WATCHED MITCHELL OVER THE YEARS SUPPORT ENTREPRENEURSHIP, HE AND I HAVE DONE THAT TOGETHER THROUGH EEO.

AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE TO HAVE HIS SON NATHAN, I THINK LEADING THE CHARGE ON THIS, BUT THEN ALSO STUDENTS COMING HERE AND WORKING IN THE SUMMERTIME IS GOING TO BE VERY I THINK KIDS ARE GOING TO WANT TO WORK HERE.

LAST BUILT IN COMMUNITY GIVE BACK PORTION OF EVERY SALE IS GOING TO GO TO CARROLL ISD OTHER LOCAL NONPROFITS.

THOSE WILL BE KIND OF HAVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AS TO WHICH ONES TO SUPPORT, BUT THAT WILL BE THE PURPOSE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT FUN FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. BUT AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS, YES, IT'S REVERSIBLE. YOU HAVE TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE.

THIS IS OUR MISSION. THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING IT. MITCHELL DOESN'T NEED TO DO THIS, OBVIOUSLY.

BUT HE LOVES TO DO IT, AND THIS IS A WAY TO GIVE BACK.

AND SO WE'RE HOPEFUL WE CAN GET YOUR SUPPORT AND MOVE FORWARD TO COUNCIL.

WITH THAT, I KNOW YOU WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CERTAINLY AVAILABLE FROM QUESTIONS FROM YOU OR TO RESPOND TO ANYONE ELSE.

VERY GOOD. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. AND DENNIS, I'M GOING TO NEED YOUR HELP HERE ON THE FIRST ONE.

SO YOU MENTIONED THE SIGN OR THE SIGNAGE THAT YOU WANT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT THERE EXACTLY AND DENNIS, YOU MENTIONED IN THE WORK SESSION THERE WERE SOME OPTIONS OF HOW WE COULD DEAL WITH THE SIGNAGE IF THERE WASN'T REALLY A CLEAR PATH FORWARD ON THIS.

WOULD YOU BE KIND ENOUGH TO REPEAT THOSE? YES, CHAIRMAN.

WITH THE SUP, YOU CAN CONSIDER SIGNAGE AND PUT STIPULATIONS.

EITHER APPROVE IT AS PROPOSED OR PROVIDE RECOMMENDED CHANGES THAT WOULD THEN BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.

IF YOU DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT SIGNAGE COMPONENT OF THE SUP, YOU CAN ALSO JUST REQUIRE THAT THEY SIMPLY COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S SIGN ORDINANCE. AND IF THEY ARE ABLE TO INSTALL SIGNAGE THAT MEETS COMPLIANCE WITH CITY'S BASED SIGN ORDINANCE, THEY WOULD BE ISSUED A PERMIT IN THE CASE THAT THEY HAVE CHALLENGES OR DIFFICULTIES IT COULD THEN COME BACK TO SIGN BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL FOR A POTENTIAL SIGN VARIANCE OR MASTER SIGN PLAN, WHATEVER MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO THE SUP SUNSET.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOU LIVE THERE. AND NORMALLY WHAT WE'LL DO IS.

AND I GUESS IN A LOT OF INSTANCES, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS TIE THIS TO NOT ONLY MAYBE OWNERSHIP, BUT A TERM OF YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HAVE YOU GUYS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY, OR HAVE YOU THOUGHT THROUGH KIND OF WHAT YOU WOULD THINK IN THAT REGARD? WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE FIVE YEARS, BUT I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S UP TO WE ALL DECIDE 3 OR 5 YEARS WOULD BE IDEAL.

ALL RIGHT. IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ONE THING ON THE SIGNAGE.

SURE. WHAT WE WOULD PREFER IS TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOME WORDING THAT WOULD APPROVE SIGNAGE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE SHOWING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK TO ME, LIKE, WE WANT TO GO TRADITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT YOU MIGHT SEE IN FRONT OF A JACK IN THE BOX, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT HERE. WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ELEGANT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING, YOU KNOW, DRAPED LIGHTS THROUGH THE TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT REALLY LOW. THERE'S NOTHING WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PARKING LOT LIGHTS.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY MUTED AND UNDERSTATED RIGHT IF YOU WILL.

AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND WE WOULD NOT WANT THAT TO TRIGGER HAVING TO COME BACK THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE DELAY OF TIME.

AS IT SITS WE'RE HOPING TO GET APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL IN APRIL WHICH MEANS WE'D HAVE TO WORK VERY QUICKLY TO GET ANY SNO-CONES OUT THIS SUMMER, SO. GOTCHA. I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S SEASONAL, OBVIOUSLY, SNO-CONES IN THE SUMMER,

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AND THEN MAYBE SOMETHING IN THE FALL OR WINTER AROUND THE HOLIDAYS.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN PLACE TO PRESENT OR PREVENT THIS FROM BEING KIND OF A LOITERING OR HANGOUT OUT AREA WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN OPERATION.

SO LIKE AT NIGHT TIME, LATE AT NIGHT, I REALIZE YOU'RE THE OWNER AND YOU'RE THERE AND YOU CAN HAVE EYES ON IT, BUT IS THERE SOME SORT OF GATE OR SOMETHING THAT PREVENTS ACCESS OR KIND OF WALK US THROUGH HOW THIS AVOIDS BECOMING A LOITERING AREA? THERE ARE NO GATES ON THIS PROPERTY OR FENCES AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY CURRENTLY, AND WE DON'T HAVE PLANS TO PUT ANY IN THERE.

WE ARE PLANNING SORT OF STANDARD SECURITY CAMERAS TO HELP MONITOR THINGS, BUT WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON HAVING GATES TO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

THAT WOULD BE FENCING OUT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, WHICH I THINK TAKES AWAY FROM THE OPEN FEEL OF THE SPACE.

WELL, AND I WAS THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF TO PREVENT CARS FROM COMING IN AND PARKING THERE OVERNIGHT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS CAN MAYBE GO THE WRONG DIRECTION WHEN, YOU ALLOW ACCESS FOR VEHICLES.

SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I DON'T KNOW IF, DENNIS.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A ZONING CHANGE AND AN SUP WE COULD PUT THAT KIND OF REQUEST IN OR REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? YES, CHAIRMAN. YOU COULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF SECURITY SCREENING OR BARRIER, EITHER FOR THE PROPERTY OR AT LEAST THE DRIVEWAYS, AND PRESENT THAT TO CITY COUNCIL AT THEIR.

OKAY. AND THEN I NOTICED ON YOUR DIAGRAM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU SAVE THE TREES.

YOU DID A GOOD JOB. ARE THERE SIGNS THAT WOULD SHOW? YEAH. HERE WE GO. ARE THERE SIGNS THAT SHOW WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS AND WHERE THE EXIT IS? CURRENTLY, WE'RE SHOWING ENTERING ON WEST HIGHLAND AND EXITING ON WHITE CHAPEL.

I BELIEVE IN STAFF THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT FLIPPING THAT THAT THEY WOULD MAYBE PREFER THAT IT GO THE OTHER DIRECTION.

WE'RE. I THINK WE'RE NEUTRAL ON THAT. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING SPACES AS THEY'RE LAID OUT TODAY ARE FOR IF YOU'RE GOING TO PULL INTO THEM, ARE QUEUED THAT WAY. ALTHOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE THESE DAYS WILL BACK INTO PARKING SPACES.

BUT WE WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR AN ENTRANCE AND EXIT, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE IT IS ONE WAY.

WE'RE NOT MAKING IT WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO. IF I CAN ADDRESS THE PRIOR COMMENT TOO.

WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS RATHER THAN GATES, WE WOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT SOMETHING MORE LIKE BOULDERS THAT WOULD BE MORE KIND OF WOULD MATCH KIND OF THE FEEL OF THE PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING UP GATES AND SOMETHING THAT JUST FEELS VERY COMMERCIAL.

SO WE WOULD TRY TO WE WOULD LOOK FOR WAYS TO, TO PREVENT TRAFFIC OR TO PREVENT SOMEONE GOING IN THERE AND PARKING, THAT KIND OF BLEND WITH THE LANDSCAPING, I WOULD SAY MORE SO THAN THAN GATES, IF POSSIBLE.

SURE. YEAH. AND I WAS MAINLY FOCUSING ON PREVENTING TRAFFIC FROM GETTING IN THERE AND YOU KNOW, PARKING AND HAVING TO MONITOR THAT. AND I ACTUALLY HAD, YOU KNOW, IN MY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SCHOOL PROPERTIES HAVE THE POLL GATES ACROSS THERE, KIND OF LOW IMPACT. YOU DON'T REALLY SEE MUCH OF THEM.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT. BUT SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, AS OPPOSED TO IN MY MIND, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO REQUIRE THIS WHOLE THING TO BE FENCED BECAUSE IT'S CURRENTLY NOT FENCED. SO I'M WITH YOU THERE.

AND I GUESS TO GO BACK AND CLARIFY ON THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT.

SO ARE THERE GOING TO BE LIKE SIGNS OR MARKINGS THAT'S GOING TO SHOW WHERE ENTRANCE AND EXIT IS? I THINK THERE WILL BE A SMALL MONUMENT SIGN AT EACH THAT WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY ORDINANCE THAT WOULD JUST SIMPLY SAY ENTRANCE AND EXIT SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.

WE ARE ADDING A NEW CITY SIDEWALK ALONG HIGHLAND.

THAT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FROM CITY STAFF.

IT'S EXISTING ALONG WHITE CHAPEL. SO WE WILL EXTEND THAT, IF YOU WILL, ALL THE WAY TO OUR WEST BOUNDARY.

SO I WOULD IT'LL BE OFF OF THAT SIDEWALK AND THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING TO INDICATE THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR.

SO I LIKE YOUR PLAN. WHEN YOU CAME BACK IN JUNE, AND I SUGGESTED THAT YOU BRING SOME GRAPHICS SO THAT WE COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE DOING. YOU'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF THAT, AND I WOULD APPLAUD THAT. THE FACT YOU DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY SO THAT YOU COULD PROVE UP, THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTFUL FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT IS REALLY GOOD.

I COULD SEE THIS BEING SUCCESSFUL. A GOOD PLACE FOR PARENTS TO TAKE KIDS IN THE SUMMER EVENINGS AND GET A SNO-CONE.

AND, I MEAN, IT COULD BE BECOME QUITE POPULAR.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, AND BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE CHILDREN.

MY CONCERN, ONE CONCERN REALLY IS, IS I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT A BIG OLD FENCE, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF KIDS IN HERE RUNNING AROUND AND ALL THIS GREAT OPEN SPACE, HAVING SOME MANNER OF FENCING TO KEEP THEM OFF OF HIGHLAND, OFF OF WHITE CHAPEL, WHICH MIGHT BE CONSIDERED I WOULDN'T MAKE

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IT A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS APPLICATION, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER FOR THE SAFETY OF YOUR PATRONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO THIS REALLY COOL SPOT. THANK YOU. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT SOMETHING ALONG A LANDSCAPE TYPE BUFFER? SOMETHING LIKE LIKE THAT. THAT WOULD I'M THINKING IT COULD BE LIKE A LOW HEDGE OR SOMETHING, BUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A BARRIER WITHOUT BEING A, YOU KNOW.

YEAH I THINK SOMETHING THAT JUST KEEPS PARENTS FROM HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT EVERY LAST SECOND OF WHERE THEIR, YOU KNOW, FOUR YEAR OLD IS OR. SURE. SO THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

NO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU GUYS. AND WE MAY HAVE TO CALL YOU BACK UP AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THE PROJECT SINCE LAST JUNE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEMS SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT DO REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS. YES, SIR. COME ON DOWN. HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? GOOD.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. DO ME A FAVOR STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

RAJ GILL, 300 MONTROSE LANE, SOUTHLAKE 76092.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO PULL UP THE THE MAP WITH THE ROUNDABOUT? YEAH. SORRY. WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BACK OUT OF THAT.

WHICH PICTURE DID YOU WANT? THE JUST THE OVERALL.

THERE WE GO. YEAH. THAT ONE THAT WAS. SORRY. YEAH.

THERE WE GO. ROUNDABOUTS. YOU DON'T SEE MANY OF THOSE IN TEXAS? WHERE I COME FROM ENGLAND.

WE INVENTED THE ROUNDABOUT. SO IT WAS SURPRISING TO SEE THEM HERE IN TEXAS.

I'VE BEEN IN I'VE BEEN IN TEXAS 14 YEARS AND THREE IN SOUTHLAKE.

SO IT'S NICE TO SEE A ROUNDABOUT IN TEXAS. SO OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST THING I NOTICED IS THAT IT'S THE LAND.

IT SITS RIGHT ON THE ROUNDABOUT, AND WE WANTED TO REZONE IT SO THAT IT CAN BECOME A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.

BEING AROUND ROUNDABOUTS MY WHOLE LIFE IN ENGLAND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NAVIGATING THEM.

WE DON'T PUT COMMERCIAL RIGHT NEXT TO A ROUNDABOUT, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

TWO REASONS, ONE BEING SAFETY AND SECOND BEING THAT IT DEFIES THE POINT OF THE ROUNDABOUT, WHICH IS TO KEEP TRAFFIC FLOWING FROM ALL FOUR SIDES.

SO IF WE PUT IF WE TAKE IF ANYONE'S IF YOU ALL USE THIS ROUNDABOUT, I USE IT EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.

AND IT'S TOUGH TO NAVIGATE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE MANY PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN EDUCATED HOW TO USE THE ROUNDABOUT SYSTEM HERE.

BUT YOU PUT A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THERE WHERE YOU'VE GOT TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT YOU ARE YOU'RE GOING TO BE BACKING UP TRAFFIC DOWN HIGHLAND.

AND THEN IF YOU LOOK GOING FROM HIGHLAND ONTO WHITE CHAPEL, THERE'S JUST A RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE, SO YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO TO THE ROUNDABOUT THAT'S DOWNHILL, WHICH YOU CAN'T SEE FROM THERE.

AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE COMING UPHILL FROM THE NORTH SIDE.

SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TURNING WHEN THEY TURN RIGHT ONTO THAT ROUNDABOUT, GOING SOUTH ONTO WHITE CHAPEL, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING IN FRONT OF THEM. THEY'RE LOOKING TO THE LEFT.

IT'S CLEAR WE'RE GOING. AND THEN SORRY. AND THEN YOU'VE NOW GOT THE EXIT FOR THIS WHICH, I THOUGHT WAS A IT WAS A BRILLIANT PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND I'M A DRAGON, DAD.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. YOU KNOW, THE THE PROJECT ITSELF.

I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE IT FITS THE ROUNDABOUT FOR THE REASONS THAT THE ROUNDABOUT IS THERE, AND IT'S JUST SAFETY, AND IT JUST DEFIES THE PURPOSE OF THE ROUNDABOUT.

SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHERE THAT EXIT ONLY WAS AND WHERE THE ENTRANCE ONLY IS YOU GOT BACK UP NORMALLY IN THE MORNINGS COMING ON HIGHLAND, GOING, EAST ONTO WHITE CHAPEL, GOING SOUTH PEOPLE ARE NOT STOPPING ONCE THEY'VE TAKEN THEIR RIGHT TURN.

AND THEN YOU'VE NOW GOT SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO TRY AND JOIN ON INTO THAT.

AND IT'S DOWNHILL. SO IT'S JUST GOING TO ADD MORE WORK FOR FIRST RESPONDERS.

AND IF I FEEL LIKE IF YOU WERE TO GET A FIRST RESPONDERS OPINION ON THAT INTERSECTION, GOING NORTH TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS TO 114, THEY'RE THERE A LOT, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT IT WON'T BE A GOOD IDEA TO PUT COMMERCIAL THERE, BECAUSE IT BRINGS IN THAT EXTRA TRAFFIC TO AN AREA WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL TRAFFIC AND MAKE IT FLOW.

BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THOUGHT THE PROJECT WAS GREAT.

I REALLY WISH THE ALLEN FAMILY COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN SOUTHLAKE.

YOU JUST WOULDN'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN ANYWHERE IN ENGLAND AND WE HAVE MILLIONS OF ROUNDABOUTS.

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IF YOU WANT TO DO A CASE STUDY, JUST LOOK AT ENGLAND.

WE JUST WOULDN'T ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN THERE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. YES. COME ON DOWN.

HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD. IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SHRIDEVI VEMULAPALLI, 309 MONTROSE LANE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS. SO, AS BASICALLY, WE ALL LIVE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE IN HIGHLAND OAKS.

AND WHEN THE TRAILER HOMES WENT AWAY, WE WERE ALL HAPPY.

AND WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS WAS COMING UP HERE.

I THINK THE CONCERN THAT ALL THE NEIGHBORS HAD EXPRESSED, AND BY THE WAY, I SERVED AS A PRESIDENT FOR THE HOA.

SO WE KIND OF TAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY SERIOUSLY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS AND EVERYTHING.

AND WHEN A LOT OF OUR KIDS MOVED ON TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, I KNOW I WORKED WITH THE CITY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A SIDEWALK THERE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS WALKING UP THERE, BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD A SIDEWALK ON THAT ROAD.

AND THEN I WOULD THANK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY BUILDING SOMETHING THIS BRILLIANT AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, ALL THOSE ASPECTS. I'M DEFINITELY WITH THEM, BUT I THINK THE LOCATION OF IT IS SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS US WHO ARE LIVING THERE.

BECAUSE TODAY I DROPPED MY SON AT HIGH SCHOOL EVERY DAY, AND JUST COMING OUT OF THAT LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE STOP SIGN, IT TAKES AT LEAST 2 TO 3 MINUTES TO MAKE A LEFT OR A RIGHT TURN BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT IS JAMMED IN THE MORNING.

AND ESPECIALLY THAT'S BECAUSE ALL THE NEW HOMES THAT CAME UP WITH THE CARELON, ALL THOSE TRAFFIC IS ALSO NOW ROUTING THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT GOING TO THE WEST HIGHLAND TO DROP THE KIDS AT THE INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL, OR THAT'S A SHORTCUT TO GET TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, TO GET ON TO THE SHADY OAKS AND TO THE SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD.

SO THAT REALLY GETS CONGESTED AND EVERYTHING.

AND THE OTHER CONCERN THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPRESSED IS IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE WE ATTRACTING FOR THIS BUSINESS TO BE THERE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA? BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT YOU HAVE ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL HOMES AND NOW YOU'RE INTRODUCING A COMMERCIAL ASPECT TO THAT ONE CORNER ONE IS THE TRAFFIC THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY. AND I WOULD SAY THAT EVEN WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION HAS HAPPENED, WE WERE THINKING THAT THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE SLOWED DOWN WITH THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT HAS WORSENED EVEN MORE BECAUSE AT LEAST IN A WEEK, TWICE I EXPERIENCED NOBODY STOPPING AT THERE AND THEN GIVING THE YIELD TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TURNING FROM WHITE CHAPEL TOWARDS THE HIGHLAND.

THERE'S SOMEBODY ALWAYS LIKE CUTTING THE CAR RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, TRYING TO GET TO THE RIGHT OR STRAIGHT.

SO IF PEOPLE ARE DRIVING WITH THAT ZOOMING SPEED AND HAVING SOMETHING THERE FOR LITTLE KIDS, YOU ARE NOW INTRODUCING A RISK OF ACCIDENTS AND STUFF.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT NONE OF YOU GUYS WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION TO APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND THEN FEEL SORRY ABOUT IT LATER.

I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S GOING TO GIVE SO MUCH.

IT'S A NICE BUSINESS TO HAVE, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST THE LOCATION IS WHAT I'M VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND I'M JUST SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY AND WHOEVER COULD, WE ALL JUST CAME IN JUST TO SHARE OUR OPINION.

AND WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS HAS BEEN PLANNED FROM LAST JUNE.

IF WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT, WE WOULD HAVE NOT WASTED THEIR TIME AS WELL. WE WOULD HAVE COME HERE BEFORE AND THEN OPPOSED IT IF NEEDED.

WHEN THE TRAILER HOMES JUST WERE CLEANED, WE WERE THINKING THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND THEY ARE NOT BUILDING A BEAUTIFUL HOME THERE, AND NONE OF US AN IDEA OF, LIKE, SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMING UP HERE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ITEMS SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT? DO WE HAVE A CARD THAT WE WANT TO GET ON THE RECORD? NO, CHAIRMAN. THAT WAS THE CARD FROM THE LAST TWO SPEAKERS.

OH, NOT A NEW CARD. OKAY, I DON'T NEED TO READ ANYTHING IN THE RECORD FOR THE PRIOR.

MAYBE AFTER THIS ONE. YEAH. NO, I THINK I'LL PROVIDE THESE TO THE SECRETARY, BUT IT WAS JUST THE TWO SPEAKERS FROM THE LAST THAT JUST. OKAY. I DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING THEN.

NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, DENNIS. ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ITEM 6, 7 OR 8? LAST CALL. YOU WANT TO PROVIDE THE CARD, BUT YOU DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

YOU CAN BRING IT UP HERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT A PUBLIC COMMENT FORM FROM ASHA MAKAM.

HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T.

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RECORD OPPOSITION TO THESE THREE ITEMS. THANK YOU MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT, FINAL CALL. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IF I COULD GET THE APPLICANT BACK UP HERE, I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

COULD YOU GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON YOUR HOURS? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THEM BEING SEASONAL, BUT KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THAT.

YEAH. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC AND SO MAYBE HELP US GET A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT YOUR HOURS ARE GOING TO BE.

TOTALLY. AND TO THE POINT ABOUT THE WHITE CHAPEL BECAUSE MY ENTRANCE TO MY HOUSE IS, WHATEVER, 20 OR 20 YARDS FURTHER SOUTH THAN THE ENTRANCE FOR THAT.

SO. YEAH, WE WON'T BE OPEN IN THE MORNING FOR ANY OF THE SCHOOL TIME WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AS WELL AS LIKE THE RETAIL LIKE THIS ISN'T A STARBUCKS, THIS ISN'T A 7-ELEVEN. THIS IS A SNO-CONE SEASONAL, WHICH WILL BE OPEN IN THE AFTERNOONS.

MAYBE DURING THE TAIL ENDS OF SCHOOL OR THE BEGINNING OF SCHOOL TIME IN TERMS OF THE CALENDAR YEAR AND THEN DURING THE SUMMER.

SO THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A MORNING STOP OFF WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TRAFFIC.

SO AFTERNOON, EVENING DURING THE LATE SPRING AND THEN REGULAR HOURS DURING THE SUMMER.

ALL RIGHT. AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THE SIDEWALK AND THEN YOU MENTIONED, I THINK YOU SAID SOME BOULDERS. SO QUESTION WOULD BE, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING, YOU KNOW, OVER A FEED STORE RIGHT THERE ALONG WHITE CHAPEL WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS PRETTY HIGH, HIGH SPEED. AND THEY'VE GOT THE KIND OF THE BOULDERS RIGHT THERE AS A BARRIER.

YEAH. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING THOSE AROUND OR WRAPPING THOSE AROUND THE CORNER ON HIGHLAND AND WHITE CHAPEL? SO IN MY EXPERIENCE, YOU'RE TYPICALLY WILL USE THOSE WHEN YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT 18 WHEELERS CUTTING A CORNER.

OKAY. AND THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT WILL STOP THEM. [LAUGHTER] AND SO I WOULDN'T WHAT I THINK WOULD HAPPEN IS IF WE WOULD USE THOSE TO PREVENT, LIKE, OFF SEASON TRAFFIC ON SITE. WE COULD. I COULD SEE US ROLLING THEM TO THE SIDE AND LEAVING THERE, FRAMING THE ENTRANCE, IF YOU WILL. BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WANT THEM TO BE THERE, LIKE, FOR A TRAFFIC PURPOSE OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BLOCKING TRAFFIC WHEN WE'RE CLOSED, AS IN ADDITION, IN ADDITION TO THAT AS YOU MENTIONED ABOUT DOWNHILL THERE'S A NATURAL BERM UP TO THE SIDEWALK ON ALL THE WAY AROUND THE THE EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY.

OKAY. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GOING TOWARDS, MAYBE CONSIDERING PUTTING BOULDERS, WRAPPING IT AROUND THE CORNER THERE.

BUT IF THERE'S A BERM, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS.

IF THIS GOES FORWARD TO COUNCIL. I MEAN, IT WILL GO FORWARD TO COUNCIL JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VOTE'S GOING TO BE, BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTH GETTING SOME PICTURES TO KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT THE BERM IS AND ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC CONCERN.

YEAH. AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT TRAFFIC STUDY THAT YOU DID HAVE THAT DONE KIND OF TELL US WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAID WITH RESPECT TO THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT.

I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE SEE HERE.

I THINK, AS STAFF CAN ATTEST AS WELL, THE CONCLUSIONS WERE THAT THE CAPACITY OF THIS ROUNDABOUT IS MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT IS THERE TODAY. RIGHT. AND WHAT WE'RE ADDING TO IT IS SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT THAT IT IS DE MINIMIS TO THE POINT OF NOT REQUIRING AN ANALYSIS.

IT DOESN'T MEET ANY OF THE THREE THRESHOLDS FROM THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE TO REQUIRE FURTHER ANALYSIS.

YOU DO HAVE IT LIKE HE SAID. I MEAN, ANYBODY WHO DRIVES THEIR KIDS TO KNOW, WHICH I DO LIKE SUMMERTIME, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN IT IS DURING SCHOOL TIME, RIGHT? AND SO THIS IS A SUMMERTIME BUSINESS FOR THE MOST PART.

SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO LAYER IN ANYWAY. BUT EVEN JUST PUTTING IT OUT WHEN, THEY LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, THEY LOOK AT THE PEAK. RIGHT. THE PEAK THAT COULD COME OUT OF THIS, THE PEAK THAT IS THERE TODAY.

AND EVEN AT THAT POINT THIS DOES NOT AND I'D LOVE TO IF STAFF WANTS TO COMMENT.

BUT THAT WAS THE CONCLUSIONS OF, YOU KNOW, DESHAZO WHO IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED FIRMS IN TOWN.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I MEAN, I HAD ORIGINALLY WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE HOURS, BUT YOU GOT THAT COVERED, SO I THINK THAT'S.

I THINK THAT'S IT. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS.

THANKS. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT CARD YOU WANT TO GIVE ME? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL NOTE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE A COMMENT CARD THAT WE GOT HERE.

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REAL QUICK FROM BO WARNICK. HOPEFULLY, I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY.

IS IN OPPOSITION, BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, SO THAT'LL GO ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. I GUESS MY COMMENTS WOULD BE FIRST OF ALL, THE SUP SUNSET. WHAT ARE EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS ON THAT? NORMALLY WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, IN MY MIND, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THIS AT LIKE THREE YEARS IF PEOPLE ARE IN FAVOR OF IT AND THEN THERE CAN KIND OF BE A WAY TO MONITOR IT AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

I WAS THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINE OF THREE. I KNOW THEY SAID THEY WERE REQUESTING FIVE, BUT I THINK THREE WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE.

OKAY. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT SIGNAGE? YOU'RE THE EXPERT ON SIGNAGE, DR.

SPRINGER. ARE YOU GOOD WITH APPROVING THE SIGNAGE AS PRESENTED OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES AS OPPOSED TO THEM HAVING TO COME BACK OR.

WELL, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OTHER SIGNS IN TOWN THAT ARE COMPARABLE TO THIS, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT THE DISPLAY IS SHOWING DOWN HERE WITH THE OPEN BULBS LIKE THIS.

SO I DON'T KNOW. I JUST HATE TO THROW OUT SOMETHING OUT THERE AND GO LIKE, YEAH, JUST AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE KIND OF OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW, I'VE GOT SOME I DON'T KNOW, I'M KIND OF TORN ON THIS.

THERE'S N OT A WHOLE LOT YOU CAN DO TO THIS THING.

I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, THIS DOES KIND OF GIVE THAT OLD FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

BUT I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST KIND OF HESITANT ABOUT JUST SAYING, YEAH, GO AHEAD WITH WHAT THIS WITH WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING AS A EXAMPLE.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON SIGNAGE SUGGESTION. AND DENNIS MENTIONED THIS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO APPROVE THE SIGN AREA THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY SHOWING. SO AND THE SIGN HEIGHT THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY SHOWING, BUT LIMIT THE SIGNAGE TO CURRENT EXISTING SIGNAGE ORDINANCE SO THAT THAT WAY THEY CAN FIT PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO FIT WITHIN THAT SIZE OF SIGN AREA TO FIT THE ORDINANCE. THAT WAY THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK. IT COULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO P&Z AND COUNCIL.

WE CAN DO THAT, DENNIS? YES, CHAIRMAN. YES. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I THINK THERE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AND THEN MAYBE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON SIGNAGE ON THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT, AS WELL AS SOME SORT OF GATING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT SOME SORT OF OPTION THAT COUNCIL CAN GO WITH SO THAT THERE ISN'T TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT DURING HOURS.

OR FOR SOME REASON, IF KIDS THOUGHT IT WAS A WAY TO CUT THROUGH TO TRY AND GET TO THE HIGH SCHOOL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHEN IT'S NOT OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

SO THOSE WOULD BE MY COMMENTS. I MEAN, I'M GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF IT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. I DO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MITIGATION DONE TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

I THINK THAT'S LARGELY HANDLED BY THE FACT THAT THE HOURS ON THIS ARE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DURING OFF TIMES AS FAR AS THE MORNING AND THEN MAYBE IN THE AFTERNOON. AND ESPECIALLY IN THE, YOU KNOW, SUMMER HOURS, LATE SPRING.

AND THEN AGAIN IN THE FALL. SO IN MY MIND, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY MITIGATED PRETTY WELL, BUT I DO THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH RESPECT TO THE GATING ISSUE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

SO WHAT ABOUT SOME, I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE FOR THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT, MAYBE SOME REMOVABLE BOLLARDS THAT CAN BE PUT IN PLACE WHEN THEY NEED TO BE AND TAKEN OUT BECAUSE, I MEAN, THE GENTLEMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT USING BOULDERS.

WELL, THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE EQUIPMENT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO I WAS THINKING SOMETHING THAT WOULD MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR A SINGLE PERSON TO PUT IN AND SECURE THOSE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU KNOW, THEY COST, BUT I KNOW THEY DO MAKE SOME THAT ACTUALLY POP UP OUT OF THE GROUND.

SO BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO HAVE THE ONES THAT JUST.

THERE'S A SOCKET IN THE GROUND, BASICALLY, AND YOU JUST SET IT IN THERE AND THAT WOULDN'T RESTRICT FOOT TRAFFIC AND IT WOULDN'T RESTRICT, LIKE BIKE TRAFFIC, BUT IT WOULD YOU KNOW, KEEP AUTOMOBILES OUT.

RIGHT. ANY OTHER GENERALLY, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE APPLICATION? ON THE ENTIRE PROJECT? NO, I THINK THAT I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT HERE.

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IT'S JUST THE YOU KNOW, THE SIGNAGE. I'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, CONCERN ABOUT.

AND THEN THE I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IN THE ROUNDABOUT BECAUSE OF THE HOURS.

SO, I MEAN, THOSE ARE VALID CONCERNS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

OF COURSE THEY KNOW THE SITUATION, BUT I DON'T REALLY SEE THIS PLACE AS GOING TO BE A HUGE TRAFFIC GENERATOR.

SO BUT OVERALL, THE PROJECT LOOKS GOOD TO ME.

AND I MEAN, NOT MANY TIMES THAT WE CAN FIND WE GET A, YOU KNOW, AN APPLICANT THAT IS WILLING TO NOT DESTROY ANY TREES AND, YOU KNOW, NOT ADD A BUNCH OF IMPERMEABLE YOU KNOW SURFACES THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S AND IT'S A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS GETTING OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER DRISCOLL, THOUGHTS ON ANY OF THE ABOVE? YEAH, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. I DO FEEL LIKE WE CAN'T REALLY APPROVE THIS SIGN EXACTLY AS IT IS, BUT IF WE CAN PUT SOME PARAMETERS IN THERE AND THEN AT THE ENTRANCE EXIT THING, I THINK THAT'S STILL GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WITH SIGNAGE AT SOME POINT.

SO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THAT. COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? OKAY. WELL, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A CRACK AT A MOTION KNOWING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE SIGNAGE? THE SUP SUNSET, AS WELL AS THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT, WHETHER IT'S BOLLARDS OR GATING OR SOMETHING.

AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AND MAYBE MORE DETAIL ON THE ELEVATION CHANGE AS YOU GO AROUND THE CORNER THERE.

SO THAT THE APPLICANT KIND OF KNOWS HOW THEY NEED TO BRING THIS TO CITY COUNCIL GOING FORWARD.

SO, I MEAN, I REALLY DON'T CARE WHICH WAY THAT THEY WANT TO DO IT, BUT I MEAN WITH THE BOLLARDS ARE WITH THE BOULDERS, WHATEVER, SOME SORT OF A BARRIER. DO YOU WANT TO JUST LEAVE IT VAGUE AS A SECURITY BARRIER OF SOME SORT? YEAH. OR DO WE WANT TO DEFINE. I THINK WE LEAVE IT VAGUE.

AND, DENNIS WOULDN'T IT BE APPROPRIATE TO MAYBE RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT OR REQUIRE THAT THE APPLICANT GO FORWARD WITH OPTIONS AS IT RELATES TO BARRIERS ON THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT DURING NONUSE TIMES AND KIND OF SIMILAR ON THE OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN THE SUNSET.

YES, CHAIRMAN. YES, THAT MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT, I'LL GIVE IT A WHIRL HERE.

WE'LL SEE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6 CASE CP 260005. REFERENCING THE STAFF REPORT DATED FEBRUARY THE 13TH OF 2026.

FURTHER NOTING. LET'S SEE THE SIGN THAT IS. CAN I.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT ON THIS. THE FIRST ITEM IS JUST FOR THE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT.

AND SO UNLESS THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE YOU WOULD WANT TO CHANGE IN THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION TO BE ADDED TO THE SITE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THERE'S PROBABLY NOTHING YOU NEED TO TIE TO THE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT.

THE SECOND ITEM IS THE ZONING THAT JUST ALLOWS FOR THE USE BY SUP.

AND SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT OR DON'T WANT TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL CRITERIA THAT'S IN THAT ORDINANCE, YOU MAY, IF YOU WISH TO APPROVE THAT, APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED.

AND THEN THIRD ITEM IS A SUP. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD STIPULATE ANY OF THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WANT REFLECTED ON THE. SO THAT WOULD BE PLAN FOR THE SUP AND THEN THE SUNSET.

RIGHT. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF OUR CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE SUNSET SIGNAGE AND ALL THAT WOULD BE ON ITEM EIGHT.

YES. IF THAT IS. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. ITEM 8.

YES. WHICH IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO SO FOR ITEM SIX THEN WE NEED TO JUST PRESENT THIS AS APPROVED AS PRESENTED.

YES. IF YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO YOU.

YES. AND I THINK WE ARE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

ITEM NUMBER SIX CASE CP 26-005, REFERENCING THE STAFF REPORT DATED FEBRUARY THE 13TH OF 2026 AS PRESENTED. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S A GOOD MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES FOUR, ZERO. THEN WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, IF YOU WOULD PROVIDE US A MOTION ON THAT DOCTOR SPRINGER.

THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A CLEAN ONE AS WELL.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CASE ZA 25-0074, REFERENCING THE STAFF REPORT DATED FEBRUARY THE 13TH OF 2026, AND FURTHER REFERENCING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED DATED 2-2-26. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES FOUR, ZERO. AND THEN FINALLY, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH WILL HAVE ALL OF THE YEP.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS CASE ZA 260011, REFERENCING STAFF REPORT DATED FEBRUARY THE 13TH OF 2026 AND FURTHER REFERENCING THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO, DATED TWO TWO OF 26 AND NOTING ON THE FOR THE SIGN CONSIDERATION THAT THE AREA PRESENTED ON OUR, I GUESS ON OUR APPLICATION AND. GOD, I'M TRYING TO SAY AND SIZE.

THE AREA OF THE SIGN FOR THAT'S NOW SHOWN AS SNO-CONES WILL BE PRESENTED IN A FORM THAT WOULD FIT THE CURRENT SIGN ORDINANCE IN THE SAME ALLOTTED AREA THAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THEIR DEMONSTRATION HERE.

AND THE TERM OF THIS WOULD BE FOR THIS APPLICATION WOULD BE FOR THREE YEARS OR A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY.

AND LET'S SEE THE FURTHER NOTING THE APPLICANT'S CONSIDERATION OF SECURITY BARRIERS ON THE DRIVES DURING UNOCCUPIED TIMES AND ENTRY AND EXIT SIGNAGE CONFORMING TO CURRENT SIGN STANDARDS, AND CONSIDER LANDSCAPE BARRIERS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY, AROUND THE ESPECIALLY AROUND THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL AND PEDESTRIAN CONTROL. AND WE WANT TO ADD BRING MORE INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE.

CONTOUR. YES. AND BRING MORE A DETAILED TOPOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION FOR REVIEW BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE FINISHED GRADE OF THE PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD MOTION THERE. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH IS THAT? YES, CHAIRMAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. VERY WELL DONE.

MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? YES. ALL RIGHT.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THAT ITEM CARRIES FOUR ZERO AS WELL. CONGRATULATIONS.

AND DENNIS, TO BE CLEAR, DO WE HAVE A DATE WHEN THIS WILL GO TO COUNCIL SO THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN ATTEND THAT AS WELL.

YES. DUE TO SPRING BREAK CONFLICTING, THE SECOND MEETING OF THIS MONTH.

THIS WILL GO TO FIRST READING FOR THE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING CHANGE ON APRIL 7TH.

AND ASSUMING THOSE ITEMS MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

ALL ALL THREE ITEMS, INCLUDING THIS UP, WOULD GO TO SECOND READING AT THEIR APRIL 21ST MEETING.

SO APRIL 7TH, APRIL 21ST. TWO MORE HEARINGS AT CITY COUNCIL ON THIS REQUEST. SO. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS. AND APRIL 7TH WOULD BE THE NEXT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL.

AND WITH THAT, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.