[1. Call to Order: Video Introduction of SPIN Program by Southlake Mayor Shawn McCaskill]
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I WILL READ THROUGH THESE SUBMISSIONS AFTER THE RESIDENTS IN ATTENDANCE WHO HAVE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK. AFTER THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, THOSE IN ATTENDANCE WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CAN USE THE MICROPHONE IN THE AISLE FOR THE Q&A PORTION OF THE MEETING.
WITH THAT, LET US GET TO OUR APPLICANTS FIRST PRESENTATION.
[2. SPIN2026-03 – An applicant is proposing a subdivision of an approximately 7.3-acre tract into four residential lots on property located at 1360 N. Carroll Avenue, within SPIN Neighborhood #3.]
CURTIS YOUNG IS HERE TO PRESENT OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH IS SPIN2026-03.AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SUBDIVISION OF AN APPROXIMATELY 7.3-ACRE TRACT AND A FOUR RESIDENTIAL LOTS ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1360 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE, WITHIN SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NO. 3.
HI, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M NOT SURE ANYONE'S HERE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO A LOT OF NEIGHBORS, BUT LET ME INTRODUCE IT. THIS IS THE PROPERTY HERE.
IT'S NORTH OF 114. THIS IS CARROLL AVENUE COMING UP HERE.
THIS IS THE CEDAR RIDGE OFFICE PARK. THERE'S SOME MORE OFFICE BUILDINGS RIGHT IN HERE.
THERE'S A MOSQUE IN THIS LOCATION. SO THESE ARE MOSTLY COMMERCIAL USES.
THERE IS ONE REMAINING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE ON OUR SOUTHERN BOUNDARY HERE.
THE LAND USE PLAN SHOWS THIS PROPERTY AS MIXED USE, WHICH MEANS IT COULD BE A VARIETY OF USES, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL OFFICE, THOSE KINDS OF USES.
AND AS I SAID, ALL OF THESE USES ARE COMMERCIAL USES.
NOW EXCEPT FOR THIS AREA IN HERE, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
IT HAS YET TO BE ZONED. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROJECT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER SEVEN ACRES TOTAL SIZE.
THE, MORE THAN HALF OF THE PROPERTY TO ABOUT HERE IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A CREEK THAT COMES THROUGH LIKE THIS AND GOES THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND THEN COMES UP HERE, KIND OF GOES AROUND THIS HOME AND FURTHER THIS WAY ON ITS WAY TO LAKE GRAPEVINE.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE REASON THAT PROPERTY HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED TO DATE.
WE DID NOT TAKE THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH BECAUSE IN TALKING TO MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS THEY LET US KNOW THAT WHAT THEY REALLY WANTED HERE WAS RESIDENTIAL, NOT THIS USE. SO WE RECALIBRATED AND CAME UP WITH A PLAN FOR ONLY FOUR RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN THIS LOCATION HERE. THERE IS ACTUALLY THIS BLUE LINE IS THE LINE.
THE CITY OWNS THIS PROPERTY HERE. SO ONE OF OUR THOUGHTS WERE THAT PERHAPS WE LEAVE SOME OPEN SPACE HERE, THAT IF THE CITY WANTED TO DEVELOP THIS AS A PARK OR WHATEVER, IT COULD BE COMBINED WITH THAT, IT IS ALL IN THE FLOODPLAIN. AND WE ACTUALLY TOOK THIS PROJECT TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION LAST WEEK.
AND THEIR SUGGESTION WAS, AND IN TALKING AGAIN TO THE NEIGHBORS AGAIN, WHO HAVE LOTS HERE, THEY ASKED US TO DO LOTS HERE OF SIMILAR SIZE, WHICH WOULD BE INSTEAD OF THE FOUR LOTS, IT WOULD BE THREE LOTS. SO THIS IS WHAT THE P&Z RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL BE APPROVED A THREE-LOT PLAN IN THIS LOCATION HERE. ANOTHER THING THAT THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE AND P&Z ASKED US TO LOOK AT WAS OPTIONS FOR DRIVEWAYS.
AND THEY ASKED US TO LOOK AT THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, ONE OF WHICH IS WHAT'S SHOWN HERE, WHICH IS KIND OF A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES TOUCHES ALL THREE LOTS, BUT GETS OFF THE MAIN AREA OF CARROLL. YOU CAN CALL THIS A SLIP ROAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S A DRIVEWAY THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED BY ALL THREE OF THE LOTS AND WOULD ALLOW ESPECIALLY THINGS LIKE UPS, AMAZON TRUCKS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS TO BE ABLE TO GET OFF CARROLL, SO THEY'RE NOT BLOCKING TRAFFIC.
SO THAT WAS ONE OPTION THAT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE LOOK AT.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING OPTION ONE. OPTION TWO WOULD ALSO GIVE DRIVEWAYS.
WHEN WE HAD FOUR LOTS, WE HAD TWO SHARED DRIVEWAYS.
AND THEN THIS WOULD HAVE JUST A REGULAR DRIVEWAY IN THIS LOCATION HERE FOR THAT SINGLE LOT.
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AND THE THIRD OPTION THAT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED US TO LOOK AT WAS JUST IF WE HAVE A DRIVEWAY TO EACH LOT.LIKE A NORMAL LOT WOULD HAVE. AND SO WE'RE READY, WILLING AND ABLE TO DO EITHER OF THOSE OPTIONS.
AND SO WE'LL BE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL ON THIS AND ASKING FOR THEIR PREFERENCES ON THAT.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS TO THIS? OKAY, I DID HAVE A COMMENT FORM FROM THE PAST THAT GOT CANCELED.
SO I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND READ THAT IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANYTHING FEEL FREE TO. THIS IS FROM SARAH BIEGEL AT 1211 BAY MEADOWS DRIVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS. SHE SAID, I AM OPPOSED TO THE ZONING CHANGE.
THIS IS A LARGE RESIDENTIAL LOT 6 TO 7 ACRES THAT THE MAJORITY OF IT FLOODS WHEN IT RAINS.
WE LIVE IN TRIPLE C AND BACK TO DOVE CREEK. I AM CONCERNED WITH THE OVERDEVELOPMENT OF THIS LOT WILL CAUSE MORE FLOODING DOWN THE CREEK FOR TINY HOMES WITH ENOUGH CONCRETE BETWEEN THE HOMES FOR EIGHT CARS, TWO CARS PER HOUSE TO BACK IN AND OUT OF AND HAVE A MAIN DRIVE IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN SEE THIS WORKING ON THIS LAND. THIS DOES NOT LEAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE.
THIS IS THE SECOND ZONING CHANGE THEY REQUESTED TO THE CITY.
IF SPIN AND CITY COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING THIS, THEN THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW THE FOLLOWING.
NUMBER ONE WHO IS THE BUILDER FOR TRANSPARENT, FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES? AS I AM CONCERNED WITH THE QUALITY AND SIZE OF THE PROPOSED HOMES.
A BUILDER WHO WORKS IN SOUTHLAKE WOULD KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC WILL NOT BE THRILLED WITH PUTTING FOUR HOMES IN ONE LOT, AND THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW. NUMBER TWO, I WOULD CHALLENGE SPIN TO ASK WHY? WHY IS THERE A NEED TO SHOVE FOUR HOMES IN ONE LOT? WHY CAN WE NOT JUST BUILD ONE HOME TO MATCH THE EXISTING HOMES ON THAT SIDE OF CARROLL? WHY DO THEY KEEP CHANGING THEIR MINDS AND SUGGESTING ZONING CHANGES? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. WELL, THE REASON WE CHANGED OUR MIND WAS BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE HER ASKED US TO CHANGE FROM THE COMMERCIAL TO THE RESIDENTIAL. SO WE'RE FOLLOWING WHAT THE NEIGHBORS REQUESTED.
THE AREA THAT'S OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN WILL NOT FLOOD.
THERE'S A REASON THOSE LINES ARE CALCULATED. AND WE'VE GONE FROM THE FOUR LOTS TO THE THREE LOTS.
SO I THINK BASICALLY WE'RE ADDRESSING HER COMMENTS.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT WAS ALL I HAD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND ITEM. FRANK VIOLA IS HERE TO PRESENT OUR SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING,
[3. SPIN2026-04 – An applicant is proposing an 8-lot gated single-family residential subdivision on property located at 4000 N. White Chapel Blvd., within SPIN Neighborhood #1.]
WHICH IS SPIN2026--04. AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN 8-LOT GATED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4000 NORTH WHITE CHAPEL BOULEVARD, WITHIN SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NO. 1. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE JUST DOING A ONE ACRE LOTS. WE'RE DOING A ONE-ACRE LOT SUBDIVISION THAT COMES FROM BOB JONES ACROSS THE STREET FROM SADDLEBACK.WE HAVE SOME FRONTAGE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT CORRIDOR LOOK OFF OF THE BOB JONES PARK. SO THIS WILL BE THE LOT 7 AND 8 UP THERE.
AND SO THAT WILL KEEP THAT APPEAL THAT EVERYBODY'S KIND OF USED TO DRIVING DOWN WHITECHAPEL, WHERE YOU SEE THE NICE WHITE HOUSE. SO WE'LL GET SOME BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION PROBABLY SIMILAR BEAUTIFUL HOMES THERE AS THOSE ARE FELT LIKE ESTATE LOTS. AND THEN WE ARE PROPOSING LOT 6 AS ANOTHER ESTATE LOT.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND THIS PICTURE RIGHT.
CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THIS REAL FAST? YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT HERE.
THE ENTRY FOR BRIDAL GATE OFF TO THE, THIS LEFT SIDE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THERE'S A DRIVEWAY AND THAT WOULD BE FROM THE BOB JONES STREET.
SO YOU'LL HAVE A FRONT ENTRY THERE FOR THAT LOT.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE LOTS WOULD BE INSIDE THE SUBDIVISION.
THERE'S A AREA THAT'S HAS A VERY HIGH ELEVATION AND IT DROPS DOWN SO WHERE YOU CAN'T PUT A DRIVEWAY.
SO ON THIS ONE, SO LOT 6 IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT LOT, IT DRAMATICALLY DROPS LIKE ALMOST 20FT.
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AND SO YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T REALLY BUILD, IT'S UNBUILDABLE UNLESS YOU TURN THE HOUSE TO FACE BOB JONES.DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE? YEAH. DO ME A FLIP TO IT. WHICH ONE DO WE FLIP TO? MA'AM, CAN YOU COME USE THE MIC IN THE. OH, THANK YOU.
HI, I'M KATHYN STUECKLE AND FOR 45 EAST BOB JONES.
SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT I UNDERSTAND. SO THE WHOLE PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE SHOWING THERE IS PLOTTED.
BUT WHAT IN THAT BIG CORNER ON THE, I GUESS THAT'S THE EAST SOUTHEAST CORNER.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THE BIG HOUSE IS GOING TO BE? SO YOU GOT LOT ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE, AND THEN YOU GOT LOT SIX ON THE RIGHT. SO WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? OKAY, SO THAT WHAT'S TO THE SOUTH OF THAT THEN IS THAT'S JUST CLARIDEN.
CLARIDEN RANCH IS BELOW US. OKAY. OKAY. SO I'M TRYING TO AND THEN YOU HAVE BOB JONES PARK, WHICH IS THIS IS WHITECHAPEL HERE. OH, OKAY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO COME OFF WEST BOB JONES? YEAH, WE'RE COMING OFF OF WEST BOB JONES OKAY.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM THE MAIN CORRIDOR AREAS.
AND SO IT'S, OKAY, SO YOUR ENTRANCE IS ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM SADDLEBACK.
IT IS. IT ACTUALLY HAS TO LINE UP WITH THE ROW TO ACTUALLY MEET THE CITY.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE OF THE FRONT OF THE.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO WHITECHAPEL LOTS. OKAY. THOSE ARE THE FRONTAGE.
YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THOSE PONDS.
WE'LL BE THERE'S ONE POND THERE NOW. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO TWO PONDS AND THEN TWO HOUSES.
AND THEN. AND THEN YOU WANT TO SEE THIS ONE. YEAH.
SO IS THAT. OKAY. SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY. SO YOUR IS THAT WALL GOING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE PROPERTY? WELL WE WERE GOING TO, WE WERE GOING TO DO A WALL, BUT IF WE DON'T DO A WALL, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SWAY THE COUNCIL TO HELP US GET THIS AS A GATED CUL DE SAC AND TURN THAT HOUSE TO THE BOB JONES SIDE, SO WE WOULD UP THE WALL IN TO GET, YOU KNOW, A MORE OPEN FEEL AND. YEAH, BECAUSE I MEAN, RAINEY COURT GOT THROUGH AND NOBODY WAS HAPPY ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
SO ANY, ANY KIND OF STONE OR BRICK KIND OF. I'M A NEIGHBOR.
OKAY, I KNOW, I KNOW, I WAS, I'VE TALKED TO YOU BEFORE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE DOING THIS, SO. YEAH. IS THERE A REASON WHY IT HAS TO BE GATED? BECAUSE I MEAN, AGAIN, THERE'S NOT MUCH. I MEAN, I KNOW SADDLEBACK RIDGE IS GATED, BUT THAT KIND OF FEELS LIKE IT'S YOU'RE HIDING BEHIND A GATE NOW. YOU KNOW, I'M OUT THERE. WE LIKE TO BE WE'RE ALL NEIGHBORS, RIGHT? YEAH, OF COURSE. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY YOU THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
DO YOU HAVE A GATE IN YOUR HOUSE? GATE? ARE YOU GATED? I DO IN MY HOUSE, BUT NOT IN MY. BUT NOT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
RIGHT. WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD DO YOU LIVE IN AGAIN 445 EAST, BOB JONES.
SO I'M RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE 500 EAST, BOB JONES.
OH YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD, YEAH.
I'VE ASKED YOU BEFORE. YES YOU HAVE. SO YEAH, NO, I MEAN EVERYBODY LOVES THE FEEL OF, YOU KNOW, A GATED YOU KNOW, ENTRY, RIGHT. SO AS I COULDN'T, AS I CAN'T GIVE ALL THE HOUSES GATED ENTRY.
SO WE WERE JUST MAKING ONE GATE FOR FIVE HOUSES, RIGHT.
OKAY, YEAH. VERSUS GATED FOR AND SO IDEALLY, RIGHT.
WE HAVE THOSE, NOT THE BEST AREA AS YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN.
BOB JONES AS YOU RIGHT BEFORE YOU PASS, YOU HAVE THOSE MOBILE HOMES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO MAINTAIN VALUE. SINCE THIS IS NOT CARROLL ISD, THIS IS GOING TO BE OPEN ENROLLMENT, AND ALSO COMPETING WITH SADDLEBACK PRICES ACROSS THE STREET FOR THEIR LOT VALUE.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT SAME LOT VALUE AS THEY ARE HAVING, YOU KNOW, SUCCESS IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULD LOOK FOR THE SAME SUCCESS, WHICH DRIVES MONEY INTO THE INTO THE TAX REVENUE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WE'D BE. LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TAX REVENUE. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT MAINTAINING THE LOOK AND FEEL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OH OF COURSE. DEFINITELY.
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OR IF IT'S GATED, WE WOULD DO IT OPEN CONCEPT WITH PILLARS AND OPEN, JUST LIKE YOUR PROPERTY WITH THE IRON.YEAH. AND THEN WE WOULD DO THE PILLARS WITH THE OPEN IRON LOOK.
YEAH. OR BLACK IRON FENCE. SO IT'LL BE SIMILAR TO THE SADDLEBACK WHERE THIS SLATTED SO THE ANIMALS CAN GET THROUGH, OR IS IT GOING TO BE WROUGHT IRON WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE BLOCKED? NO, SO IT WILL BE. SO YOU'LL HAVE THE. IT WILL BE WROUGHT.
YEAH. WILL BE THE LONG THREE QUARTER INCH. IRON.
IRON DIAGONAL. YEAH. WHICH WAY IS DIAGONAL, DAVE? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. I DO HAVE A LETTER FROM SOMEONE WHO WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND, SO I'LL READ THAT IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANYTHING.
OKAY. THIS IS FROM DAN EMMER OF 345 WEST BOB JONES ROAD.
LIKE ANYONE, I WOULD PREFER HOMES NOT TO BE BUILT UP TO MY PROPERTY LINE.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE OWNERS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN LAND AS THEY CHOOSE IF THEY ABIDE BY CITY CODE AND ORDINANCES. I'VE TALKED TO THE TO THE DEVELOPERS, AND THE PROPOSAL APPEARED TO ME TO BE A STRONG EFFORT TO BE AS LEAST OBTRUSIVE AS POSSIBLE, AND I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS AT THIS TIME. HOWEVER, VERBALLY, THERE WERE A COUPLE COMMITMENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON RECORD.
FIRST, PRIOR TO THE CURRENT DEVELOPERS OWNERSHIP, THEIR PROPERTY HAD TWO OCCASIONS OF DIRT WORK AND ELEVATION LIFT, PRIMARILY ALONG MY EAST PROPERTY LINE. WORK THAT WAS DONE WITHOUT ANY PERMITS.
THE LAST OF THIS WORK, THE LAST OF THIS WORK, CHANGED DRAINAGE DIRECTION IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THEIR PROPERTY, CAUSING THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF MY PROPERTY TO FLOOD DURING HEAVY RAINS AND DEBRIS AND INVASIVE WEEDS TO FLOW INTO MY POND.
SECOND, THE DEVELOPER SAID THERE WOULD BE NO SIGNIFICANT ELEVATION LIFTS, PARTICULARLY ALONG MY EAST PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT LOTS WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY MORE OF CUT UPHILL AND FILL DOWNHILL.
THIS WOULD ALSO LIKELY BE A CONCERN FOR THE CLARENDON RANCH PROPERTY OWNERS.
WITH THESE UNDERSTANDINGS, I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS AND SUPPORT THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO THAT GENTLEMAN IS TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THERE'S A BAR DITCH THAT RUNS ALONGSIDE THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE, AND IT GETS BACKED UP. CAN EVERYBODY SEE MY CURSOR? OKAY. AND THE WATER GETS BACKED UP AND IT GOES INTO HIS POND.
AND SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THIS IS ON RECORD, OFF RECORD.
I AS PROFESSIONALLY SEEING IT RIGHT, WITHOUT PUTTING ANY INSTRUMENTS ON IT.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT AS HIGH, AS LOW AS IT NEEDS TO BE TO GET THAT DRAINAGE TO DRAIN FROM THAT MANHOLE TO THAT MANHOLE. AND SO THIS IS AT A HIGHER ELEVATION.
AND THAT BAR DITCH IS AT A LOWER ELEVATION, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BACKING UP.
HE'S TALKING ABOUT, SO HE, HE ALSO HAD TO BUILD UP NINE INCHES OF HIS OWN EROSION. HE ACTUALLY ADDED DIRT ALONGSIDE THIS PROPERTY LINE HERE.
SO THE WATER WOULD NOT ENTER INTO HIS PROPERTY.
SO HE WAS DOING WORK ON HIS PROPERTY AND RAISED THIS NINE INCHES ON HIS NORTH, NORTHEAST CORNER.
SO THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED PROBABLY BY THE CITY.
AND THE PROBABLY CIVIL IS GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BY CHANCE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR LAST ITEM FOR THE EVENING.
[4. SPIN2026-05 – An applicant is proposing a 6-lot single-family residential subdivision on property located at 940 S. Carroll Avenue and 1000-1040 Breeze Way, within SPIN Neighborhood #9.]
CURTIS YOUNG IS HERE TO PRESENT OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH IS SPIN2026-05.[00:20:02]
WITHIN SPIN NEIGHBORHOOD NO. 9. HELLO AGAIN.LET ME SHOW THIS PROPERTY HERE. THIS IS THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY HERE IN THIS YELLOW AREA HERE.
THERE ARE TWO EXISTING ENTITLED 2000 PLUS SQUARE FOOT LOTS HERE, THAT FRONT ON BREEZE WAY.
THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS PROPERTY WAS THE OLD SOUTHLAKE BAPTIST CHURCH, WHICH IS NO MORE.
AND IT CAME FOR SALE. THEY WERE LOOKING TO SELL THE PROPERTY, AND MY CLIENT PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY WITH THE IDEA OF USING IT FOR RESIDENTIAL. AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE TWO LOTS ARE ALREADY ZONED SF-20.
THIS IS COMMUNITY SERVICE ZONE BECAUSE IT WAS A CHURCH.
ACTUALLY THE FRONTAGE HERE BECAUSE CARROLL USED TO GO STRAIGHT ON DOWN HERE.
THE FRONTAGE HERE WAS ZONED RPUD WITH THE VERSAILLES DEVELOPMENT AND THE SCHOOL HERE.
THE, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT LOT SIZES. THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT HERE, THESE ARE BASICALLY 15,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. RPUD IN THIS LOCATION HERE.
THE SCHOOL IS ACTUALLY PART OF THEIR RPUD PROJECT.
AND THEN THERE ARE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS OF TIMARRON AROUND TO THE SOUTH OF CONTINENTAL.
THESE LOTS ARE 11 TO 13,000 SQUARE FEET IN HERE.
AND THE LOTS OVER HERE TO OUR WEST ARE A LITTLE BIT LARGER, 12 TO 14,000FT².
SO BASICALLY THE LOTS IN THIS AREA ARE ANYWHERE FROM 11 TO 15,000FT².
AND WE COULD HAVE CHOSE TO ASK FOR SIMILAR SIZED LOTS, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE JUST CHOSE TO MAKE THEM ALL 2000 AND UP. THAT WOULD BE THE, THE BIGGEST LOTS IN THE ANY OF THE SUBDIVISIONS IN THIS AREA.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO USE A FULL ROAD SIZED HERE WITH A FIRE LANE TURNAROUND AT THE END.
KEEPING THESE TWO LOTS HERE AND ADDING THESE FOUR LOTS IN THIS LOCATION HERE.
THEY WOULD RANGE FROM A LITTLE OVER 2,000 TO ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE IN THIS BACK LOT HERE.
WE WILL TRY TO SAVE AS MANY OF THE TREES. THERE'S TREES ALONG THE FRONTAGE ON BREEZE WAY HERE.
THERE'S CURRENTLY A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES INTO THE CHURCH VERY CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION.
TOO CLOSE FOR IT TO REALLY BE SAFE. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ACCESS TO LOT SIX AND ALL THESE LOTS FURTHER AWAY FROM CARROLL TO THIS LOCATION HERE. LOT SIX WILL NOT HAVE ANY DRIVEWAY ACCESS TO EITHER CARROLL OR BREEZE WAY.
IT WILL GET ITS ACCESS OFF OF THE INTERNAL ROAD IN HERE.
AND THEN THESE LOTS WOULD GET IT EITHER FROM THERE OR OFF OF BREEZE WAY.
AND SO THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT THE EXISTING DRAINAGE, WHICH IS THIS HERE. AND THERE'S THIS DRAINAGE AREA HERE, WHICH IS ABOUT 1.2 ACRES THAT CURRENTLY FLOWS TOWARD THEM.
THIS IS KIND OF A RIDGELINE. SO THESE TWO DRAINAGE AREAS HERE THAT AREN'T COLORED FLOW THE OTHER DIRECTION, THEY FLOW TOWARD BREEZEWAY AND CARROLL. SO THIS AREA FLOWS TOWARD THEM 1.2 ACRES WORTH AND 100-YEAR STORM THAT'S 3.53 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND, IS THE CALCULATION ON THAT.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE EXISTING DRAINAGE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE IS TO TAKE THIS RIDGELINE, IF YOU WILL, AND MOVE IT FURTHER TO THE WEST TO DIMINISH THE AREA THAT DRAINS TOWARD THEM.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE PROPOSED PLAN WOULD SHOW, WHERE THIS WOULD BE, THE RIDGELINE HERE.
AND SO A MUCH SMALLER AREA, ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PREVIOUS AREA TOTAL OF 0.43 ACRES, OR 2.32 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE ALMOST FOUR THAT THAT CURRENTLY GOES THERE IN THIS LOCATION HERE.
SO THERE WOULDN'T BE QUITE THE SAME ISSUE THAT THEY ARE NOW.
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THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PUT ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT MAY HAVE ORIGINALLY BEEN BUILT AND FILLED IN OR JUST NEED TO BE REINSTATED LIKE A DRAINAGE GOING OUT HERE TO THEIR STREET.BUT ANYWAY, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO WORK ALL THAT OUT.
SO HERE'S OUR PLAN. TOTAL OF SIX LOTS, FOUR OF THEM NEW.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS.
OKAY. WELL, MY NAME IS MARK SCHULTE, AND I LIVE AT 1200 HAVEN CIRCLE IN SOUTHLAKE.
I AM OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
RUSHING DOWN. I THINK IT'S BEAR CREEK, WHICH IS WHERE ALL THE.
WITH OLD UNION LOCATED WHERE IT IS, WHERE BREEZE WAY IS LOCATED, WHERE IT IS, THE SHARPNESS OF THE TURNS TO GO FROM BREEZE WAY, HEADING NORTH ONTO CARROLL.
AND, YOU KNOW, GOING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION AS WELL.
IT GETS VERY CROWDED, ESPECIALLY DURING PICKUP AND DROP OFFS TIMES FOR THE PARENTS AT OLD UNION.
AND SO I'M GREATLY OPPOSED TO THE WHOLE PROJECT.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE'RE SQUEEZING SIX HOMES INTO A VERY SMALL ACREAGE, EVEN THOUGH THE LOTS SHOW TO BE VERY LARGE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO FEEL THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE LOT SIZE, IT'S THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE, IT'S THE AMOUNT OF SURFACE AREA THAT THE HOMES THEMSELVES CREATE AND THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS RESULTING FROM THAT EXTRA CONCRETE.
BUT THE TRAFFIC IS ONE THING THAT I THINK IT'S A CREATING A VERY UNSAFE SITUATION.
AND IT'S VERY I'M VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO IT. OKAY.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL THINGS, INCLUDING DRAINAGE.
THERE'S OFTENTIMES A CASE WHERE DEVELOPMENT CAN MAKE DRAINAGE BETTER THAN WHAT'S EXISTING.
WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL DO, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEST SIDE THERE.
WE'RE SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET FROM CONTINENTAL. BUT IF THERE'S EXISTING ISSUES ALONG CONTINENTAL, I'M NOT GOING TO CHALLENGE YOU ON THAT. THAT MAY BE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO AFFECT THAT AT ALL.
AND FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, 4 ADDITIONAL LOTS IS, IS REALLY GOING TO CHANGE MOVE THE NEEDLE FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT USED TO BE A CHURCH.
SO IN THOSE TIMES CERTAINLY BE LESS TRAFFIC THAN THERE WAS.
SO ANYWAY, I THINK THESE LOTS ARE LARGER THAN THE LOTS AROUND US AND ALL THESE SUBDIVISIONS.
AND I THINK THE OPEN SPACE WILL BE LARGER ON THESE LOTS THAN THEY PROBABLY ARE ON THOSE OTHER LOTS.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FITS THE AREA AND WOULD WORK WELL.
MAY I RESPOND? YEAH. I HAVE SOME BACK ISSUES, I APOLOGIZE.
WELL, NUMBER ONE ON DRAINAGE, YOU'RE DIRECTING WATER FROM LOTS FIVE AND SIX, MAYBE FOUR, TWO AND ONE ONTO BREEZE WAY, WHICH HEADS DIRECTLY DOWN TO CONTINENTAL AND DIRECTLY DOWN TO THE CREEK.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE. AS FAR AS THE CHURCH, THERE WAS NO CONFLICT WITH CHURCH TRAFFIC AND SCHOOL TRAFFIC. SO I DISAGREE WITH YOUR WHOLE RESPONSE THERE.
AND YOU'RE NOT SHOWING THE DRIVEWAYS FOR LOTS ONE AND TWO.
I ASSUME THOSE ARE ON BREEZE WAY. CERTAINLY THEY WOULD BE FOR LOT ONE.
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LOT TWO WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE CHOICE OF EITHER THAT OR GO INTO THE INTERNAL ROAD, PROBABLY THE INTERNAL ROAD IF I'M THEM.YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S CREATING A LOT OF CONGESTION.
AND YOU DID NOT ADDRESS THE PICKUP AND DROP OFF ISSUE THAT I RAISED WITH THE PARENTS.
THE PEOPLE HAVE, WHEN PEOPLE TRAVELING NORTH ON BREEZE WAY HAVE TO GO INTO THE WRONG LANE TO GET OUT ONTO CARROLL. WHEN PARENTS ARE LINED UP, IT'S TERRIBLE.
AND PUTTING THOSE EXTRA DRIVES THERE IS ONLY GOING TO COMPLICATE THINGS.
PEOPLE COME AROUND HEADING SOUTH ON CARROLL AND TURN ON BREEZE WAY, AND PEOPLE RUN THE WRONG LANE.
IT'S VERY SERIOUS. WELL, I WOULD SUGGEST PEOPLE FOLLOW THE TRAFFIC RULES.
ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHTY.
THANK YOU TO ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN SPIN.
REMEMBER, SPIN REPRESENTS THE FIRST STEPS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
THESE REPORTS ARE GENERAL OBSERVATIONS OF THE FORUM, THEY ARE NOT VERBATIM.
INTERESTED PARTIES ARE ENCOURAGED TO FOLLOW THE CASE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AND THESE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED AND WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE APPROXIMATELY 24 HOURS AFTER THE MEETING TAKES PLACE.
THANKS AGAIN.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.