May 19, 2026 City Council

DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT AFTER SEEING THE SETTLED TIMES? NOT SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE FIRST TIME.

THEY REFINED IT A LITTLE BIT.

THEIR HOURS THROUGH FRIDAY.

11 TO 9, AND EXCEPT ON SCHOOL DAYS, IT WOULD BE 4 TO 9, AND WEEKENDS, AND THEN THERE.

JUMP TO THEIR SEASON.

THEIR SEASONS WOULD BE APRIL THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

IT WOULD BE THEIR SUMMER SEASON.

AND THEN THEIR WINTER SEASON WOULD BE THROUGH THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.

OFF SEASON WOULD BE OCTOBER THROUGH NOVEMBER AND NOVEMBER THROUGH MARCH.

ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS? THANK YOU.

AND I BELIEVE THEIR REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR, IF A SUNSET LAYS DOWN, TO ALLOW FOR AT LEAST TWO FULL SUMMER SEASONS, WHICH...

WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR APPROVAL PROCESS RIGHT NOW THEY'RE UNLIKELY TO BE OPEN FOR FULL SUMMER SEASON IF ANY AT THIS TIME THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER FOX HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO SAY BUT BEFORE YOU STEP BACK COULD YOU PUT UP THE SLIDE WITH THE LIGHTING UM YES, SIR.

THE APPLICANT IS PREPARED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL TO THAT.

THE LIGHTING IS PROVIDED ALONG THE PATHWAYS WITH A BALLARD TYPE LIGHT.

THE TREES WERE WE'LL HAVE LANDSCAPE UP LIGHTING ALONG WITH COMMERCIAL GRADE LED LIGHT STRINGS THAT WILL TRIANGULATE BETWEEN TREES.

ONE DIRECTIONAL LIGHT.

THEY'VE STATED THE SIGNAGE PROPOSED.

THE MONUMENT SIGN WILL BE A BACKLIT MONUMENT SIGN, WHICH THEY'VE INCLUDED THE SIGNS AS PART OF THEIR SUP PACKAGE.

THE ATTACHED SIGN ON THE BUILDING FACADE WILL BE HALO LIT, SO IT WILL BE LIT FROM BEHIND THE CHANNEL CUT LETTERS, MAY INTEND TO USE CLASSES.

METAL BRONZE TYPE LETTERING ON THAT SIGNAGE.

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BASED ON THIS PLAN.

THE EXTENT OF LIGHTING IN THE PARKING AREAS AND TABLE AREAS WILL BE JUST THE STREET LIGHTS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS? THANK YOU, SIR.

DOWN AND MAYBE YOU COULD ADDRESS THE LIGHTING QUESTION FOR COUNCILMEMBER POPS.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

YOU GUYS CAN STATE YOUR NAMES AND ADDRESSES FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN GO AHEAD.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYORS OF COUNCIL.

I'M JOHN CORDELSON WITH EVOLVING TEXAS, 300 GREAT STREET IN FORT WORTH.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

MITCHELL ALLEN, 1150 NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD.

I WON'T BORE YOU WITH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION AGAIN, BUT I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOME CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE SINCE ACTUALLY THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE WERE APPROVED.

AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE INITIALLY DENIED COUNSEL AND THEN WE WERE APPROVED ON APRIL 21ST.

SINCE THEN, WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS SOME ADDITIONAL CONCERNS.

AND SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS ACTUALLY MOVED THE PARKING SPACES UNDER THE TREES TO BE 10 FEET AWAY FROM THE TRUNKS TO PROTECT THE POST OAKS AND ALSO INSTALLED A GEO GRID UNDERNEATH THE DECOMPOSED GRANITE FOR THOSE TREES.

AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDED TO KEEP FROM DAMAGING ANY OF THE TREES WITH THE CARS AS WE WILL PARK THEM THERE.

ADDITIONALLY, WITH THE SINGLE ENTRANCE AND EXIT OFF OF HIGHLAND, WE WENT BACK TO THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, ASKED THEM TO RE-LOOK AT THE SITE, AND THEY CAME BACK TO US WITH THE STATEMENT OF NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT ON HIGHLAND.

EVEN LOOKED AT THINGS LIKE DURING THE FOOTBALL GAMES.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE FOOTBALL GAMES TYPICALLY RUN LATER THAN WILL BE OPEN, BUT EVEN LOOKING AT THOSE HOURS AND THE IMPACT ON THE ROUNDABOUT WOULD BE NEGLIGIBLE.

AS FAR AS LIFE, AS COUNCILMAN...

FOX WAS SPEAKING TO.

YES, WE HAD NOT EVEN PLANNED IN THE LAST PRESENTATION, SO WE WENT BACK AND ADDED THAT.

I THINK BEFORE WE SIMPLY SAID THAT WE WOULD HONOR THE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY, BUT WITH THIS BEING TECHNICALLY A RETAIL SITE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE PERCEIVED THAT WE WOULD GO WITH RETAIL LIGHTING.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ACTUALLY THE MINIMUM LIGHTING THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY PROVIDE, THAT WILL BE SAFE FOR THE CUSTOMER.

YOU'LL HAVE LESS THAN ONE FOOT CANDLE AT EVERY PROPERTY LINE.

DARK SKY IS PRESERVED.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE STRING LIGHTS ONLY OF LIGHTS AT THE TREES, AND HE MENTIONED THE INTERNALLY LIT.

MY NAME IS SIGN, AND THEN, OF COURSE, LIGHTING IN THE FLOWER BEDS, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL LIGHT UP THE BUILDING.

AGAIN, WE'VE JUST TRIED TO KEEP THIS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE'VE TRIED TO KEEP IT TO THE VERY MINIMUM, JUST THE SAME THING OUR APPROACH HAS BEEN THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT ON THE SITE DESIGN, THE REUSE OF THE EXISTING FACILITY.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO TRY TO ANSWER EVERY CONCERN WE'VE HEARD SO FAR, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS MORE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THINK THE ONLY OTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, AND I THINK IT JUST CAME UP ABOUT GETTING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DELAY, NOT BEING OPEN THIS SUMMER NECESSARILY WANTING TO GET INTO NEXT SUMMER.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE LANGUAGE YOU USED, AND MAYBE WE COULD GET STAFF DIRECTION ON WHICH OF THE THREE ITEMS THAT LANGUAGE WOULD GO UNDER, WHETHER IT'S 6A OR 6B OR 6C.

SO, RANDY, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD GET SOME GUIDANCE ON WHICH ITEM THAT WOULD CHANGE TO.

WE WERE JUST TRYING TO CARRY IT THROUGH FOR A MINUTE.

THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER PROKOFIEV.

TWO FULL SUMMER SEASONS, I BELIEVE, WAS THEIR INTENT.

WHICH ITEM? THAT WOULD BE ITEM 6C.

DOES IT GET ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU PLACE ON THE IMPROVEMENTS AND USE OF THE PROPERTY UNDER THE ZONING WOULD COME UNDER 6C? I THINK WE ALSO HAD A 30 MONTH AT ONE POINT THAT WE DISCUSSED BECAUSE THREE MONTHS FROM NOW WOULD BE, YEAH, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S NOT QUITE TO THE END OF SUMMER.

BUT HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT THERE.

OUR GOAL IS TO COME BACK AND BE IN GOOD STANDING.

SO HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT THAT.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS WANT TO ASK FOR THE APPLICANTS? DO YOU WANT TO ASK MORE ABOUT THE TIMING? 27 MONTHS, 30 MONTHS, 29 MONTHS, WHATEVER.

THEY'RE BASICALLY, SO THEY'RE TALKING TO SEPTEMBER, AS FAR AS THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

GIVE THEM TIME TO READ OUT THE PROOFS FOR THE DECEMBER DATE THAT THEY WANT TO.

YES, AND ALL I WANT TO ADD IS JUST THANK YOU TO STAFF AND COUNCIL FOR BEING WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON THIS.

IT'S VERY MUCH OUT

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OF THE BOX, AND SO I THINK WE'VE ARRIVED AT A GOOD PLACE, AND JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.

I DON'T OFTEN HAVE THIRD READINGS, SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK NOW FOR YOU, I THINK.

6A, 6B, AND 6C.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 6A, 6B, AND OR 6C? MAYOR, I ACTUALLY DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

SURE.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IF THE APPLICANTS COULD COME BACK DOWN.

I GUESS MY WIFE HAS A QUESTION.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I THINK WE ALL GET YOUR STEPS IN FOR THE DAY OR THE NIGHT.

I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT GO AHEAD.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL DETAILS AROUND.

THE TRAFFIC STUDY BUT JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN DETAIL AS YOU IMAGINE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC COMING OFF 114 ON A WHITE CHAP GOING ON THE ISLAND TRYING TO TURN INTO THE SNOW CONE BUSINESS JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ENVISION FLOW AND HOW SOME FOLKS MIGHT NEED TO TAKE THAT LEFT TURN IN SURE AND SO AS I LOOKED AT THAT HONESTLY THE AS YOU KNOW FROM OUR TRAFFIC I THINK WE'VE GOT A SLIDE HERE SO WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, WE'RE SHOWING A PEAK OUT.

HOUR INGRESS OF 41 CARS, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER BECAUSE THE 41 CARS IS MODELED AFTER A COFFEE SHOP AND A DONUT SHOP THAT DOESN'T HAVE A DRIVE-THROUGH.

REALLY, THE EIT DOES NOT HAVE A MODEL FOR SOMETHING THAT'S LIGHT OF THE GOOSE, AND SO THAT MODEL WAS CHOSEN TO BE A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

AND SO AT THAT NUMBER, THEY LOOKED AT HIGHLAND AND THE CAPACITY OF HIGHLAND AND SAID IT WAS NEGLIGIBLE, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THEIR REPORT AND IN THE LETTER IN YOUR FILE.

I GUESS ANOTHER...

ANOTHER DOUBLE-CLICK QUESTION, DO THEY CONSIDER HOW IT'S THE DOUBLE-LANE, TWO-LANE ROUNDABOUT GOING FROM WHITECHAPEL ALL THE WAY, OR SORRY, OFF CARROLL ONTO BASICALLY HIGHLAND? SO BASICALLY HOW YOU'RE GOING FROM OFF THE HIGHWAY AND GETTING PRETTY QUICKLY OFF TO HIGHLAND, HOW IT QUICKLY MERGES FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE.

WAS THERE ANY EVALUATION ON THAT EXACT SCENARIO? SINCE AS I KNOW SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THERE IS PRETTY FAST, FAST MOVING.

AND THAT MERGING TWO TO ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DANGEROUS AS IS.

SURE.

I THINK, AND THIS POINTS UP FOR A CYCLONE, THE CONCERN I THINK THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE CLOSEST WAS THE RIGHT TURN EXIT LEAVING OUT OF HIGHLAND AND WANTING TO GO TOWARD THE ROUNDABOUT.

BUT THAT BEING A RIGHT TURN MOVEMENT AND THERE BEING NOW MORE DISTANCE FROM THE INTERSECTION, THEY FELT LIKE EVEN THAT MOVEMENT WOULD BE FINE.

AND SO THEY LOOKED AT IT AS A MANAGEABLE IMPACT FOR THAT ONE, WHICH WAS THE MOST CONCERNING.

ONLY INFANTS FROM ISLANDS.

YEAH.

THAT YOU GUYS ARE PROPOSING.

SO THAT IS, I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOT BLOCKING IT AT ANY TIME.

IS THAT CORRECT? ACTUALLY, WE HAVE PUT UP A GATE FOR WHENEVER WE'RE ON OUR OFF-SEASON, OFF-MONTHS, THERE'S A GATE THERE.

OKAY, SO ONE CONCERN THAT I HAD THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT AFTERWARDS IS WE'VE TRADITIONALLY HAD ISSUES WITH PARENTS PARKING ON ASCOTS TO PICK UP KIDS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THEY ALSO GO TO...

CHAPEL DOWNS AS THE NEXT ONE.

EVENTUALLY, AND OF COURSE WE PLACED NO STANDING STOPPING SIGNS ON ASCOT AND THE WILD BATH.

IT COULD VERY WELL HAPPEN ON CHAPEL DOWNS ONCE THEY FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS IT UP.

THIS LOCATION WOULD BE AN IDEAL SPOT FOR HIGH SCHOOLERS TO GET OUT AND WALK UP AND MEET THEIR PARENTS IN THAT PARKING LOT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS, DISCUSS THAT THOUGHT AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL ISSUE.

FOR CARS BEING IN ALREADY BECAUSE THEY'LL GET OUT OF SCHOOL ABOUT, I THINK, 340, 345.

AND ANYWAY, IN THAT LINE, IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT.

YEAH, AND I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU LIVE RIGHT THERE.

I LIVE THAT EVERY DAY, BOTH IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOONS.

AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED BY CAROL AND BY THE CITY SEEM TO HAVE RESOLVED THE STOPPING THERE.

WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANYONE WHO IS DOING THAT.

IT'S LITERALLY...

THAT WE'VE CLEANED IT UP.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE AN IDEAL SPOT NOW, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY WHO'S DOING THAT CURRENTLY USING THAT AS A PARKING SPACE AT ALL.

I MEAN, LIKE RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE MIGHT THINK IT'S KIND OF MORE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NOT DOING IT.

BUT ANYWAY, JUST SOMETHING JUST TO KEEP IN MIND.

IT'S TOTALLY FAIR BECAUSE I HATE YOU GUYS DOING AN OPEN AND THERE'S 30 CARS SITTING THERE.

IT AFFECTS YOU GUYS.

BUT THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY HELP YOU GUYS.

YOU MIGHT HAVE KIDS COME TO THEIR MINDS.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS? ALSO FOR THE HERD, WE HAVE THE SAME PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS THAT WE'VE MADE IT INTO THE RECORD BEFORE FOR BOTH ITEMS 6B AND 6C.

WE HAD A COMMENT FROM RAJ GILL AT 300 MONTROSE LANE STATING OPPOSITION.

ASHA MANCUM AT 301 MONTROSE LANE STATING OPPOSITION.

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DEBBIE AMULATALI, 309 MONTROSE LANE, STATE OF OPPOSITION.

BO WARNICK, 208 MONTROSE LANE, STATE OF OPPOSITION.

AND THOSE ARE BOTH ITEMS 6B AND 6C.

COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 6A, 6B, OR 6C? ALL RIGHT, MAYOR PRO TEM ROBBINS, LET'S DO MOTIONS ONE AT A TIME.

BEFORE YOU CALL.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.

FIRST, I WANT TO DIRECT IT TO THE APPLICANTS.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS ISN'T AN EASY CASE WHERE YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE FOR THE THIRD TIME.

THERE IS A LOT TO LIKE ABOUT THIS.

ABOUT THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AND WHAT YOU'VE PROPOSED AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M STRUGGLING WITH GETTING MY HEAD AROUND PUTTING A C1 USE ON A RESIDENTIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY ON A BUSY INTERSECTION ABOUT A DRIVEWAY ON A TWO-LANE RESIDENTIAL STREET EFFECTIVELY WITH NO CURBS.

IT'S JUST BAR DITCHES.

AND BY MY MATH, YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER MAY SAY IT'S NEGLIGIBLE, BUT YOUR PEAK NUMBERS APPEAR TO INCREASE THE POTENTIAL MOVEMENTS ON A TWO-LANE RESIDENTIAL STREET.

ON HIGHLAND BY 26 PERCENT.

VERY CLOSE TO A VERY, VERY BUSY ROUNDABOUT.

HONESTLY, EVEN THE MONUMENT SIGN ON HIGHLAND IS TOO MUCH, IS FAR FROM ME.

SO FOR THOSE REASONS THAT SUPPORT THIS CASE TONIGHT, I DID WANT TO ADDRESS YOU GUYS AND TELL YOU THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORTS THAT YOU DID MAKE.

AND IF IT DOES PASS, I WISH YOU THE BEST.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COUNSEL, BEFORE WE GO FOR A MOTION? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TAKE THESE ONE AT A TIME.

WE'LL START WITH A MOTION AS TO 6A, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE THROUGH TO 6B AND TO 6C.

BUT MOTION ON 6A.

DOES DOING THAT INCLUDE THE...

6A WOULD BE TO APPROVE NOTING THE REQUESTED LAND USE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT NOTED IN THE NOTES.

YES, THE TIME WOULD GO ON ITEM 6C.

THAT WOULD GO TO ITEM 6C UNDER THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

YES.

THE ITEM 6A IS FOR THE LAND USE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ADD A SITE-SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER LOW-INTENSITY RETAIL SERVICE AT PATIENT AND RETAINING THE LOW-DENSITY...

RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY.

ITEM 6B IS A ZONING CHANGE TO APPROVE SP1 ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW A PRINCIPAL USE OF OPEN SPACE ONLY.

AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE OUTDOOR SALES SERVICE WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVAL.

AND THEN ITEM 6C IS THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE OUTDOOR SALES AND SERVICE AS DESCRIBED IN THE PACKET MATERIAL.

AND THAT IS WHERE YOU WOULD PLACE ANY CONDITIONS YOU WISH ON HOURS OF OPERATION, SUNSET ON THE USE.

FOR WHICH THEY WOULD NEED TO COME BACK AND BE RECONSIDERED IF THAT'S SO DESIRED.

IT IS PART OF THE PRESENTATION, SO UNLESS YOU WISH TO CHANGE THOSE, YOU DO NOT NEED TO SPEAK DIRECTLY.

YOU MAY, IF YOUR DESIRE IS TO APPROVE IT, YOU MAY APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED, NOTING THE REQUESTED SUNSET OF TWO SEASONS AND WHATEVER DATE YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO CEASE THAT OPERATION.

PERFECT.

MR. MAYOR, I MOTION WE...

LET'S GO WITH 6A.

APPROVE ORDINANCE ITEM NUMBER 6A, ORDINANCE NUMBER 1269-G, CB26-0005, THIRD READING AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CONSOLIDATED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, AN ELEMENT OF THE SOUTHLAKE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT A SITE SPECIFIC...

FOR LIMITED LOW INTENSITY LOCAL RETAIL SERVICES FOR 1170 AND 11 THROUGH 1180 NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD.

SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 11, 2026.

NOTED THAT WE, THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE CONSOLIDATED REFUGEE USE PLAN TO ADD A SITE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW CONSIDERATION OF LIMITED LOW INTENSITY LOCAL RETAIL SERVICES.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 6A.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT ONE.

COUNCIL CAST YOUR VOTES ON A MOTION FOR 6A AND APPROVE 6A.

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FAILS THREE TO THREE.

DO WE HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY ATTORNEY NOW IF WE HAVE THAT LAND USE PLAN? WHAT DO WE DO IF WE HAVE TWO ITEMS, 60 AND 60? DON'T PICK THEM UP, MAYOR, TO SAY THE CONCLUSION ON THE SAME PATH.

SHOULD WE GO TO THE EXECUTIVE? YES.

I'LL CALL FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, SESSION 551.071 TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.

WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT.

ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL.

WE'LL GO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

IS THERE ANY ACTION NECESSARY FOLLOWING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOTION RECONSIDER.

WAIT, NO, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE EXECUTIVE.

THERE'S NOTHING COMING OUT.

SO AT THIS POINT, WE'VE HAD.

A MOTION TO APPROVE 6A, FAILED BY A VOTE OF 3-3.

MAYOR PROCHEM ROBBINS, IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE WITH RESPECT TO ITEM 6A? YES, MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOTION WE RECONSIDER ITEM 6A.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON 6A.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I WILL MAKE THAT SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECONSIDER THE PRIOR VOTE ON 6A.

CAST YOUR VOTES ON THAT MOTION TO RECONSIDER 6A.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO 6B AND 6C.

WE'LL TAKE THOSE SEPARATELY.

MAYOR PRO TEM ROBBINS.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TIE ITEM 6B, ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-842-ZA25-0074, A THIRD READING ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR SOUTH LAKE SNOW ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACKS 8B03 AND 8.

B04 THOMAS M.

THE SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 706 IS LOCATED AT 1170 THROUGH 1180 NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD.

SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 11, 2026.

AND THE SITE PLAN USE SUMMARY NUMBER 4 DATED MAY 11, 2026.

AND MOTION THAT WE DENY THIS WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

AND I'LL JUST TAKE A PAUSE HERE AND ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO WEIGH IN.

WE HAVE NOW A MOTION TO DENY 6B AND THE LANGUAGE INVOLVING WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

THE CITY ATTORNEY MAYBE SPECIFY.

WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE APPLICANT BUT THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.

SO IF THE MOTION TO DENY WITHOUT PREJUDICE IS APPROVED, THEN THE LIMITATIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT PRECEDED AN APPLICANT COMING BACK FOR SIX MONTHS WOULD NOT APPLY.

A MOTION TO DENY 6B WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY 6B WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES ON A MOTION TO DENY.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE YES VOTE WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION TO DENY, NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION.

IT'S A MOTION TO DENY ON 6B.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY 6B WITHOUT PREJUDICE CARRIES 6-0.

LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 6B.

6C, SORRY.

MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY ITEM 6C, RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-007, ZA26-0011, THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR SOUTHLAKE SNOW, TO ALLOW FOR INDOOR-OUTDOOR SALES AND SERVICE ON THE PROPERTY.

PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACKS 8B03 AND 8B04.

THOMAS M.

HOOD, SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 706 AND LOCATED AT 1170 THROUGH 1180 NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD.

SUBJECT TO STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 11, 2026 AND THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW.

USE HUMORY NUMBER 4, DATED MAY 11, 2026.

AND AGAIN, WE'LL DENY WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY 6C WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES AGAIN.

ON A MOTION TO DENY, A YES VOTE IS IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION TO DENY.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

THAT MOTION TO DENY 6C WITHOUT PREJUDICE CARRIES 6-0.

NEXT, WE HAD 6D AND 6E. THE POTTERY BARN ITEMS WERE MOVED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND TABLED TO THE JUNE 2, 2026 MEETING.

SO THE NEXT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM 6A, OR 7A, EXCUSE ME.

LAST, DIRECTOR ACHILLO TO COME DOWN ON 7A, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-843.

CASE NUMBER IS EA-26.

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LOCATED AT 300, 500, 4, 600, AND 684 DAVIS BOULEVARD HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THANKS, MAYOR.

[7.A. Ordinance No. 480-843, ZA26-0014, 1st Reading, Zoning Change and Development Plan for Bear Hollow, on property described as Lots 1A, 1B, 2, and 3, Parkers Corner and Tract 2A02, Jesse G. Allen Survey, Abstract 18 and located at 300, 500, 504, 600, and 684 Davis Boulevard, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: “SF-1A” Single Family Residential District and “RE-5” Residential Estate District. Requested Zoning: “R-PUD” Residential Planned Unit District. SPIN Neighborhood #11. ]

CITY COUNCIL, THIS PROPOSAL TO REZONE PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED SF1A AND RE5, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ESTATE TO RESIDENTIAL PLAN.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND SHOWS SOME OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRACKS AND PLATTED PROPERTIES THAT MAKE UP THIS SUBDIVISION.

TO THE WEST OF THIS IS BROCK EDITION AND STONY BROOK.

TO THE DIRECT SOUTH IS A SP1 INDOOR STORAGE FACILITY, ALONG WITH A NONCONFORMING INDUSTRIAL PARK COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS MICHAEL DRIVE.

TO THE SOUTHEAST IS SIENNA RESIDENTIAL.

TO THE WEST IS WRITTEN...

BRIDGEVIEW, SOUTH LAKE WOODS, AND VILLAS AT HIDDEN NULLS.

THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY IS MIXED USE AND HAS 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN OVERLAYING THE WESTERN PART OF THE BOUNDARY WHICH IS SURROUNDING A CHANNEL AND TRIBUTARY TO THE BEAR CREEK SYSTEM.

AS I MENTIONED, CURRENT ZONING IS SF1A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND RE5 RESIDENTIAL ESTATE.

THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM 300 DAVIS LOOKING WEST AND 684 DAVIS LOOKING WEST.

AND A VIEW LOOKING NORTHWEST ALONG DAVIS BOULEVARD FURNITURE.

THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING SOUTHWEST ALONG DAVIS BOULEVARD.

THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

IT CONSISTS OF 36 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS WITH AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF JUST ROUGHLY OVER 14,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE SMALLEST LOT SIZE IN HERE I THINK IS ABOUT 11,200 AND THEIR MINIMUM LOT SIZE PROPOSED UNDER THEIR RPEV REGULATIONS IS 11,000 SQUARE FEET.

CONSISTS OF 20.97 GROSS ACRES, HAS 6.13 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 29.2% OF THE LAND AREA.

AND THEIR DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, GROSS DENSITY IS 1.71 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THIS COMPARISON OF THE BEAR HOLLOW RPUD REGULATIONS WITH THE SF20A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS THE BASE STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT FOR WHICH...

THE RPUD IS BASED UPON, AS MENTIONED, THEIR MINIMUM LOSS HOUSE PROPOSED IS 11,000 SQUARE FEET.

THEIR FRONT YARD SETBACKS ARE PROPOSED AT 25 SIDE YARDS.

AT 8 FEET, STREET SIDE YARD 15 FEET, AND THEIR REAR YARD IS 30 FEET.

LOT COVERAGE IS PROPOSED AT 40% AND THE FLOOR AREA FOR THE DISTRICT PROPOSED WOULD BE 03,200 SQUARE FEET.

BY COMPARISON, CHART OF RESIDENTIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN PROXIMITY TO THIS, MORE DIRECTLY ADJACENT WOULD BE STONY BROOK.

THEIR MINIMUM LOT SIZES ARE AT 15,000.

SETBACKS ARE AT 30 FRONT YARD, 10 SIDE YARD, AND 20 ON THE REAR YARD.

NOTE ACROSS THE STREET, DON'T HAVE THEIRS LINED UP IN THE CHART, BUT RIDGEVIEW 1 AND HIDDEN KNOLLS, OR VILLAS AT HIDDEN KNOLLS, WHICH IS ALSO DEVELOPED AS RIDGEVIEW 2, THAT'S UNDER TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT, AND THEIR MINIMUM LOT SIZES WERE 9,000 SQUARE FEET AND SETBACKS AT 5 FEET.

15 FEET ON THE FRONT AND 25 ON THE REAR.

THIS IS THE HOPKINS TREE

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PRESERVATION PLAN UNDER A STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT WITH 52, JUST UNDER 53 PERCENT EXISTING COVERAGE ORDINANCE REQUIRES FOR STANDARD ZONING.

50% OF THAT TO BE PRESERVED.

THEY ARE PROPOSING JUST OVER, OR JUST UNDER 52% OF THAT TO BE PRESERVED AT 51.66%.

FOR PLANIA DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS MORE DESCRIPTIVE CRITERIA FOR HOW TREE PRESERVATION CAN BE EVALUATED.

TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS THE STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT CHART AND SHOWS ONCE AGAIN THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PRESERVING MORE THAN WHAT A STANDARD DISTRICT WOULD REQUIRE AT A MINIMUM.

THIS IS THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THEIR PITCHING PLAN.

THIS IS EXISTING DRAINAGE PATTERNS.

SITE ALL DRAINS TOWARDS THE DRAINAGE TRIBUTARY TOWARDS THE BEAR CREEK SYSTEM.

AND THEIR PROPOSAL IS TO DIVIDE THAT DRAINAGE UP AND DELIVER IT STILL INTO THAT SAME STORM SYSTEM.

THEIR ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THEY WOULD NOT NEED ANY DETENTION FOR THIS SITE AT THIS TIME.

THAT IS THEIR UTILITY PLAN.

...IN THEIR STORM PLAN.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR APRIL 23RD MEETING APPROVED THIS I-0.

SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND NOTING AN APPLICANT'S AGREEMENT TO BRING RENDERINGS WHICH PROVIDED AN EAST-WEST VIEW FROM BOTH DAVIS BOULEVARD AND FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE WEST OF THIS.

THE APPLICANT HAS SOME EXHIBITS IN THEIR PRESENTATION TO DISCUSS WITH THE COUNCIL.

TO DATE, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES WITHIN THE NOTICE AREA.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I CAN SEE HERE IN THIS PRESENTATION, I'M NOT FULL-TIME TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS AS WELL.

THANK YOU, DENNIS.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE OTHER RPEB NEIGHBORHOODS? SO YOU MENTIONED THE WHIFFVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS DAVIS, I GUESS ON THE EAST SIDE OF DAVIS, AND THAT ONE WAS A TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT, TZD? THAT'S A TZD, YES, SIR.

AND THEIR MINIMUM LOT SIZE WAS AT 9,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THE SETBACKS WERE 5 FEET ON SIDE YARDS, 15 ON FRONT, AND 25 IN THE REAR ON THEIR LOT.

THAT WAS ALL DONE WITH THE TZD AS IT EXISTED.

THEN WE'VE CHANGED THAT A YEAR AGO.

TZD IS SUBSTANTIALLY.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLER WITH THIS DONE? TWO QUESTIONS.

FIRST.

BACK TO THE UTILITY PLAN.

I'VE GOT ONE ON THE SEWER.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE THIS ANSWER, BUT...

THERE IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE THROUGH DAVIS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHERE IS THE SEWER LINE GOING? THERE IS A MAIN LINE THAT RUNS...

RUNS THROUGH THE CHANNEL AND IT GOES UNDER THAT, I BELIEVE, THE TRA SYSTEM.

VERY GOOD.

THAT ANSWERS THAT ONE.

THE OTHER ONE, I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS BECAUSE I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.

I WAS GOING TO ASK IT.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THEIR OPEN SPACE IS IN THE PROTECTED FLOOD LINE? NOT AN EXACT NUMBER.

I WOULD.

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YES, IT'S PROBABLY, LOOKING AT THE SIZE, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO TWO-THIRDS OF THE OPEN SPACE.

MAYBE A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA.

AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS.

THE CENTRAL AREA HERE.

LIKE THEY'RE SHOWING THE AREA OF THIS ALONG THE CREEK CHANNEL AT JUST UNDER 200,000 SQUARE FEET AND THEY'RE SHOWING JUST A LITTLE OVER 56,000 SQUARE FEET.

SQUARE FEET IN THE CENTRAL PARK SECTION AND ANOTHER 9,000 SQUARE FEET ALONG THE DAVIS BOULEVARD FRONTAGE, WHICH IS A 25 AND 15 FOOT BUFFER AREA MINIMUM AS IT RUNS THROUGH THERE.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLO AT THIS TIME? YES.

GO AHEAD.

DIRECTOR KILLO, ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS, DO WE KNOW THE GENERAL SIZES OF THOSE ON, WHAT IS IT, BROCK DRIVE AND PARK ROAD LOOP? YEAH, BROCK DRIVE IS ALL ONE ACRE MINIMUM LOTS.

BROCK EDITION IS AN SF1 DISTRICT, SO THEIR MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS AN ACRE.

SO ALL THOSE LOTS ARE AT LEAST AN ACRE OR SLIGHTLY MORE.

THAN AN ACRE.

THE STONY BROOK, I BELIEVE, MINIMUM IS, I THINK, 15,000 SQUARE FEET IN THEIR RESIDENTIAL PORTION.

THE PORTION OF THE STONY BROOK NEIGHBORHOOD THAT RESTS WITHIN THAT LOW DENSITY LAND DESIGNATION OF THE CITY IS ALL OPEN SPACE.

AND I THINK A FEW OF THE LOTS THAT TOUCHED THAT MET THE LOW DENSITY REQUIREMENT THAT WERE PART OF THE STONY BROOK.

SECOND QUESTION.

FOR YOU, I THINK YOU KNOW, BUT I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T GET TO YOU BEFORE THE MEETING TODAY TO ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE IT JUST CAME UP A LITTLE WHILE AGO, RIGHT BEFORE I GOT HERE AND I WAS TAKING A LOOK AT THIS AGAIN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.

SO AS FAR AS DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS GO AT THE CITY, YOU'VE BEEN AROUND FOR LIKE SINCE THE DINOSAURS, SO THE RUNOFF COEFFICIENT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS? I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THEY USE AS A STANDARD BASELINE.

OUR CITY ENGINEER CERTAINLY IS FAMILIAR WITH THE STANDARD FOR RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL.

YEAH, ACTUALLY, THAT'D BE GREAT IF WE HAD THIS.

I THINK SHE'S BEEN TO A FEW FLOOD MEETINGS, OR HE HAS AS WELL.

SO, WE SHOULD.

SO, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHAT A RUNOFF COEFFICIENT IS? SO THE RUNOFF COEFFICIENT IS UTILIZED TO CALCULATE WHAT AMOUNT OF THE LAND AREA FOR PREVIOUS FLOWS WOULD BE ADDING, ADDING TO THE RUNOFF WITHIN THE CREEK FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

RIGHT.

SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM, WOULD YOU CONSIDER IT TO BE LOW DENSITY OR MID DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY OR WOULD YOU CONSIDER IT TO BE MORE OPEN GREEN SPACE IF WE WERE LOOKING AT AN AREA? SO AS CURRENTLY...

I WOULD SAY IT'S MORE LIKE GREEN OPEN SPACE, BUT OUR ORDINANCE ALLOWS US TO USE A C FACTOR FOR THE ZONING FOR THE SUBDIVISION RIGHT NOW.

AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S SF1A.

RIGHT.

CAN WE PULL UP THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY? NO.

SO THE PROPERTY IS INSIDE THE RED SQUARE, RED BOX, BASICALLY, ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE.

SO IF WE HAD TO BALLPARK GUESS HOW MUCH OF THAT PROPERTY ACTUALLY HAS AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ON IT RIGHT NOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF ALL OF THAT LAND WOULD WE SEE IN IT, DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, CURRENTLY, JUST LOOKING AT IT, I MEAN, AS I SAID PRIOR, IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL OPEN SPACE.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE 10% IS IMPERVIOUS.

OKAY, PERFECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS OR JEFF? IS THAT A QUICK QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR KEELE, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GO TO THE OVERALL DIAGRAM WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT PLOTS? SO JUST HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

ONE BEING...

FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE-WISE AND NUMBER-WISE IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN? AND THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR THOSE BACK LOTS, 26, 27, 28, ALL THE WAY THROUGH 33, ROUGH BALLPARK, HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE OF THOSE LOTS ARE IN THE FLOODPLAIN? SURE.

JUST EYEBALLING THE AVERAGE

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OF THOSE, I'D PROBABLY SAY MAYBE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 5 AND 10 PERCENT AS YOU GO NORTH TO SOUTH.

AS FAR AS THE PROPOSED LOT BOUNDARIES THAT ARE IN THE FLOODPLAIN, ONCE AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THE OPEN SPACE ON THE WEST SIDE IS ALL IN THE FLOODPLAIN OR SOME OF IT EVEN FLOODWAY POTENTIALLY.

AND I'M JUST BALLPARKING THAT AT ROUGHLY OVER PROBABLY 50 PERCENT, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 PERCENT, TWO-THIRDS, SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR TILLOW AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT WE'LL CALL UP THE APPLICANT.

AND YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD BEFORE YOU START YOUR PRESENTATION.

HELLO, JODY BOYD, 180 STATE STREET, SUITE 225.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER, MR. MAYOR, FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A VOLUNTARY POSITION, SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.

AS STATED, THIS IS OUR SITE JUST SOUTH OF 1709, ROUGHLY JUST OVER 21 ACRES THERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF DAVIS BOULEVARD.

I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE ON THIS SLIDE PARTICULARLY.

SOME OF THOSE LOTS ALONG BROCK LANE ARE ACTUALLY HALF-ACRE LOTS, SO THERE ARE SOME HALF-ACRE LOTS.

I WOULD SAY THAT BROCK LANE IS A LEGACY DEVELOPMENT OF CUL-DE-SAC THAT WAS BUILT LONG AGO, EVEN IN THE 70S, I BELIEVE.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST, RIDGEVIEW AND HIDDEN KNOLL, WE'RE VERY COMPARABLE FROM A LOT SIZE.

IN FACT, WE'RE A LITTLE BIGGER ON AVERAGE THAN BOTH OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS.

I WAS A PARTNER IN HIDDEN KNOLL.

I BUILT THAT SUBDIVISION BACK IN THE MID-TEENS.

WE DON'T OPERATE IN A VACUUM.

THIS IS A MIXED-USE SITE.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGE TO THE FUTURE OF ANY OF THESE PLANS HERE.

WE COMPLY WITH THE LOTS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING FOR THIS PROPERTY, AND WE FEEL LIKE WE FIT WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

AS YOU GO FROM THE SMALLER LOTS IN RIDGEVIEW AND HIDDEN HOLE TO THE WEST, WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE COMPARABLE LOT SIZE AS YOU GO OFF TO THE WEST TO BROCKLAND AND TO STONY BROOK.

COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH.

DAVIS BOULEVARD HERE, SOUTH OF 1709, SO IT'S A BUSY STREET HERE.

WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS APPROPRIATE USE BASED ON OUR NEIGHBORS.

PREVIOUSLY IN 2024, THIS IS WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

THIS IS A FIVE-STORY ASSISTED LIVING SENIOR COMMUNITY.

WHEN WE WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE COUNCIL MEETINGS FROM THAT PROPOSAL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME WAS THE FACT THAT WE HAD A FIVE-STORY ASSISTED LIVING SENIOR COMMUNITY.

TO US WAS THE NEIGHBORS' OPPOSITION TO THE HEIGHT OF THOSE BUILDINGS, REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT A FIVE-STORY BUILDING KIND OF LOOMING OVER THE TOP OF THEM.

AS WE REACHED OUT TO THE HOAS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, LET THEM KNOW WHAT OUR PROPOSAL WAS.

THEY SUPPORTED SINGLE-FAMILY LAW.

LOTS HERE.

SPOKE WITH THE HOLMES GROUP THERE AT STONY BROOK SPECIFICALLY.

THEY SAID THEY'D SUPPORT US.

I THINK AS YOU SAW FROM DIRECTOR KILLOUGH'S PRESENTATION, THERE ARE NO NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS SUBDIVISION THAT OPPOSE OUR PLANS HERE.

HERE AGAIN, 14,000, JUST OVER 14,000 SQUARE FOOT AVERAGE LOT SIZES.

IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF MIXED USE.

29% OF OPEN SPACE IN THE PROPERTY.

THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS.

ABOUT FLOODPLAIN.

A FLOODPLAIN IS USABLE OPEN SPACE.

WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT A TRAIL, PARK BENCHES TO SET.

I BELIEVE THE TRAIL THROUGH HERE IS PART OF THE CITY'S MASTER TRAIL PLAN.

WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT AND INSTALLING A TRAIL HERE.

SO THIS IS USABLE OPEN SPACE.

YOU KNOW, THREE PICKABOOS AS YOU GO TO THE WEST TO KIND OF ACCESS THAT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO GET IN THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED OR FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT AT THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE WAS SAVING THOSE TREES THERE IN THE FRONT ON THE DRIVE.

SO WE DID THAT.

YOU'LL NOTICE THIS PLAN IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE PROPOSED PREVIOUSLY TO CORRIDOR COMMITTEE.

WE KIND OF GOT A CURVEBALL FROM TECH STOCK HERE.

WE THOUGHT THERE WAS ONLY GOING TO BE ONE CURB CUT, SO WE HAD TO ADJUST OUR PLAN.

LAND TO MEET THE CURB CUTS THAT TECHSPOT'S PROPOSING HERE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED THE LAYOUT.

ALSO, REDUCED THE NUMBER OF LOTS IN THE SOUTH THAT BORDER THAT COMMERCIAL USE THERE FOR THE STORAGE FACILITY.

YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN SOUTHLAKE.

I THINK MANY OF YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES.

I REACHED OUT TO MY MOM AND UNCLE.

THEY ASSURE ME THAT REAGAN'S PLANT FARM PLANTED THOSE TREES, ALL THE LIVE OAK TREES THAT ARE ALONG THAT DRIVEWAY.

SO TREES ARE IMPORTANT TO US.

YOU KNOW, TREES ARE GOOD FOR...

FOR BUSINESS.

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SO WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAINTAIN THOSE TREES AND THE ADDITIONAL TREES THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

WE'LL ALSO REQUIRE OUR BUILDERS TO PLANT AT LEAST TWO STREET TREES ON THEIR HOUSES.

IF YOU GO ACROSS THE STREET, IT WAS INTERESTING, THEY TALKED ABOUT TOWN SQUARE AND THE TWO OAKS THAT WERE THERE.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY TWO OAKS THAT GOT SAVED IN TOWN SQUARE.

THEY SCARIFIED THE REST OF THE SITE.

HOWEVER, TODAY, BECAUSE OF REPLANTING, WHEN YOU COME AND ENJOY TOWN SQUARE, THERE'S TONS OF TREES THERE.

THAT'S WE INTEND TO DO WITH THIS AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT TO SAY THAT TREES ARE IMPORTANT TO US.

HERE'S THE SUMMARY.

FAIR HOLLOW, 14 OR 11-2 TO 18,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS IS OUR RANGE.

VERY COMPARABLE, AGAIN, TO HIDDEN KNOLL, RIDGEVIEW, ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH I SAY IS OUR DIRECT NEIGHBORS.

YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE BROCK LANE OR THE STONY BROOK SUBDIVISION FROM OUR SITE.

SO REALLY THE ONLY TWO COMPARABLE, I WOULD SAY, SUBDIVISIONS ARE TO THE EAST THERE AT RIDGEVIEW AND HIDDEN KNOLL.

OUR AVERAGE SQUARE FOOT IS MUCH LARGER THAN THEIRS.

WE THINK, AS I SAID BEFORE, COMPARABLE.

THIS IS LOOKING FROM STONY BROOK TOWARDS THE EAST.

OBVIOUSLY A BUNCH OF TREES.

WE'RE SAVING ALL THE TREES WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN AND THE OPEN SPACE THERE.

YOU KNOW, P&Z ASKED US TO KIND OF DETAIL THAT.

THIS IS STONY BROOK, THE CUL-DE-SAC IN STONY BROOK LOOKING TO THE EAST AS WELL.

TONS OF TREE CANOPY WHICH WILL REMAIN.

ALL THOSE TREES IN THE FLOODPLAIN ALONG THE CREEK ARE GOING TO STAY THERE.

AGAIN FROM STONY BROOK.

THIS IS FROM BROCK LANE.

AS YOU KIND OF GET TO THE EDGE OF BROCK LANE, OBVIOUSLY JUST COVERED WITH TREES THERE ALONG THE OPEN SPACE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RECLAIM ANY OF THE FLOODPLAIN ON THIS SITE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST WHERE WE'RE...

CONFINED BY THE DETAILS OF THE SITE.

THE FACT THAT THERE'S FLOODPLAIN THERE IS A POSITIVE FOR US AND FOR THE SUBDIVISION, AND WE INTEND TO MAINTAIN THAT AND TO PRESERVE THAT FLOODPLAIN OPEN SPACE AS WELL.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE CUL-DE-SAC ON BROCK LANE.

YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE HOUSES IN OUR SUBDIVISION FROM BROCK OR FROM STONY BROOK.

THIS IS THE SOUTH ENTRY.

BECAUSE OF THE CURB CUTS FROM TXDOT, WE HAD TO LINE UP OUR SUBDIVISION TO THAT.

SO THIS IS LOOKING TO THE WEST FROM HIDDEN KNOLL.

WE'LL TALK TO ENCORE ABOUT GOING UNDERGROUND WITH ALL OF THE POWER LINES THAT ARE ON OUR SIDE OF THE STREET.

SO I THINK THAT WILL HELP CLEAN UP THE VIEW WINDOW AS YOU'RE COMING SOUTH ON DAVIS BOULEVARD.

AGAIN, FROM OUR SOUTHERN ENTRY, WE PROPOSE TO DO A SIX-FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG DAVIS BOULEVARD.

WE'VE GOT A 25-FOOT SETBACK FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO WHERE WE START OUR LOT, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM IN THERE.

WE DON'T INTEND TO JUST BE A STRAIGHT SIX-FOOT WALL.

WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES THAT WILL BE FRAMED AND BRACKETED HERE AS YOU SEE WITH THE ENTRY MONUMENTS.

DAVIS BOULEVARD HERE.

WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES THAT WILL BE FRAMED AND BRACKETED HERE AS YOU SEE WITH THE ENTRY MONUMENTS.

DAVIS BOULEVARD HERE.

WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES THAT WILL BE FRAMED AND BRACKETED HERE AS YOU SEE WITH THE ENTRY MONUMENTS.

DAVIS BOULEVARD HERE.

WE'RE AGAIN AT OUR NORTHERN ENTRY.

TELEPHONE POLE OR POWER POLES ON THE WAY THERE, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME DOWN.

SO THAT'S PART OF OUR SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GO UNDERGROUND WITH THAT POWER TO CLEAN UP THE SITES LINE THERE AS WE GO DOWN DAVIS BACK AND FORTH.

AGAIN, TWO ENTRIES, DIVIDED ENTRIES, SO WE'LL HAVE LANDSCAPE INSIDE.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, THOSE TWO ENTRIES WITH SIGNAGE ON EITHER SIDE.

THIS IS, AGAIN, THE HIDDEN OLD SUBDIVISION THAT I WAS A PART OF BACK IN THE TEENS.

YOU KNOW, WE INTEND TO IMPROVE AND LANDSCAPE OUR SITE IN A COMPARABLE WAY TO FIT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE AND MAKE IT A BEAUTIFUL SUBDIVISION FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT DRAINAGE.

WE HIRE PROFESSIONALS.

I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT WE HIRE ENGINEERS TO DETERMINE WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND WHAT'S NEEDED IN CONJUNCTION WITH CITY STAFF.

THIS IS THE EXISTING DRAINAGE MAP.

ALL OF THE WATER IS STILL GOING

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TO GO TO THE CREEK LIKE IT DID BEFORE.

THE POINT OF DRAINAGE IS WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THE PEAK FLOW.

AND IF WE ARE TO DETAIN HERE, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE SYSTEM.

WE WANT TO GET THE WATER THAT'S ON OUR SITE INTO THE DRAINAGE BASIN AND OUT SO THAT EVERYONE UPSTREAM THAT'S DETAINING WATER HAS SPACE FOR THEIR WATER WHEN IT GETS TO US.

SO WE THINK THAT THE DETENTION HERE IS ACTUALLY DETRIMENTAL TO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE PROPOSED IT THE WAY THAT WE HAVE IN CONJUNCTION AND CONCERT WITH OUR ENGINEERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEERS STAMP THESE PLANS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T WORK.

AND CITY STAFF ALSO IS NOT GOING TO PROVE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T WORK.

SO WE BELIEVE THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND FOR DRAINAGE AS WELL.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, THIS IS OUR SITE.

I'M HERE TO TAKE QUESTIONS.

WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE OUR ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY.

THIS SITE REPRESENTS $100 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL AVERAGE TAX VALUE TO THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

WE'VE GOT ONE MORE FIRE.

NOT ONE MORE POLICEMAN, NOT ONE MORE CITY STAFF.

THERE'S A LOT OF TALK HERE THIS LAST YEAR ABOUT NO NEW TAXES.

WELL, THIS IS HOW YOU GROW THE BUDGET FOR THE CITY IS NEW SUBDIVISIONS THAT PAY OUT OF THE LOAN TAXES.

AND THIS IS $100 MILLION WORTH OF VALUE TO THE CITY.

SO I'M HERE TO TAKE QUESTIONS, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? GOOD RIGHT NOW.

LET'S START ON DAVIS.

SO YOU HAVE A SIX-FOOT WALL PLAN.

AGAIN, COULD YOU REMIND ME THE SETBACK FROM DAVIS? THE SETBACK FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON DAVIS IS, I BELIEVE, 25 FEET ALONG THE PERIMETER.

THERE'S SOME RIGHT-OF-WAY HERE THAT WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK FROM TXDOT.

THAT'S HOW DAVIS BOULEVARD USED TO GO.

WE USED TO GO OUT TO THE LEFT.

THERE SINCE IT'S STRAIGHTENED OUT AS IT INTERSECTS WITH 1709 THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE HERE THAT'S RIGHT NOW TEXT DOT RIGHT AWAY BUT AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE HERE IN ORDER TO DIFFERENTIATE THAT WALL AS IT GOES NORTH AND SOUTH.

THE 15 FOOT BUFFER YARD THAT YOU SHOW ON YOUR PLAN IS THAT INSIDE THE WALL OR OUTSIDE? THE 15 FOOT BUFFER IS INSIDE THE WALL I BELIEVE.

SO 25 FEET FROM DAVIS RIGHT AWAY.

I BELIEVE THAT'S RIGHT.

AND 15 FOOT OF ADDITIONAL BUFFER YARD PLANTED.

I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE UP TO, WHAT, 40 FEET? WHAT I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT IS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MANAGE ON DAVIS THE SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE.

IT'S QUICK AND IT'S STEEP.

ARE WE FILLING? ARE WE CUTTING? WHERE'S THE WALL GOING TO GO? I MEAN, WHAT IS THE WALL GOING TO BE DOWN SO LOW THAT IT'S BELOW THE GRADE? WELL, I THINK FROM DAVIS...

YOU WON'T SEE THAT.

THE SITE ALREADY FALLS OFF FROM DAVIS TO THE WEST.

SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS, AS WE COME OFF OF OUR OPEN SPACE LOTS THERE, WE'LL STAIR-STEP RETAINING WALLS.

THEY'LL BE SIDE YARD WALLS ON THE LOTS THAT GO EAST-WEST, LIKE THE LOTS 1, 2, AND 9 THROUGH 8.

THOSE WILL BE SIDE YARD WALLS.

OBVIOUSLY ON THE CUL-DE-SAC TO THE SOUTH, THERE'LL BE A BACKYARD OR REAR YARD RETAINING WALL THERE.

RETAINING WALLS AND GRADING IS AN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THESE THESE PADS, BUILDABLE PADS FOR OUR BUILDER PARTNERS HERE.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY FROM BUILDERS HERE IN THE AREA FOR THIS PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S A WELL-DESIRED PROJECT.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THE WALLS WILL GO ON A LOT-BY-LOT BASIS AS THEY CALCULATE THE EXCAVATION AND BALANCE THE SITE.

SO THE WALL SHOULD BE...

YOU'RE GOING TO FILL, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN A DECAYING WALL AND BUILD UP, SO YOUR 40-FOOT BUFFER WILL BE AT GRADE.

WHEN YOU SAY ALONG DAVIS? ALONG DAVIS.

YES, YES.

SO THOSE WALLS WILL BE PRIVATE WALLS THAT ARE WITHIN THE LOTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF DAVIS.

SO WHEN WE MET...

ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS GOING TO BE THE SIDE YARDS, AND YOU ASSURED ME THAT THOSE WEREN'T GOING TO BE A CONCERN, THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE VERY CLOSE TO THE ORDINANCE, TO WHAT OUR ORDINANCE WOULD CALL FOR.

YET, YOU'VE GOT EIGHT FOOT SIDE YARDS, WHICH MEANS BASICALLY 16 FEET BETWEEN HOUSES BY MY MEASURE.

TO ME, THAT'S NOT ONLY SIGNIFICANTLY LESSENED THE ORDINANCE WE CALLED FOR ON MEDIAN DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY LESSENING ANY OTHER SIMILAR DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE ON THE SLIDE.

YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY ONLY COUNTER TO THAT, MR. FOX, WOULD BE ACROSS THE STREET.

THOSE ARE FIVE-YARD SIDE YARD SETBACKS.

WHICH IS THE SETBACK ON PRESTON.

I'M SORRY? I'VE HEARD IT FROM ALL OF THE DEVELOPERS.

WE DON'T HAVE IT.

THAT DIDN'T SET UP PRESTON.

PLUS, IT'S A DIFFERENT ZONE CATEGORY.

WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PUD, SO WE'RE SETTING OUR OWN RULES.

I CAN TELL YOU THIS, NOT ONE SINGLE CUSTOM HOME BUILDER THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT HAS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS.

BUT WE'LL REDISCUSS THAT.

I DIDN'T TELL YOU I WAS CONCERNED.

ABOUT LARGE HOUSES ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE COUNCIL, PLEASE, WHAT AMENITIES YOU'RE PLANNING FOR THE FLOODPLAINS, THE FLOODWAY SIDE

SO THAT IS A CONCERN.

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OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IF ANY, WHAT YOUR PLAN IS THERE? YES, CERTAINLY.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIL THAT GOES FROM NORTH TO SOUTH HERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TRAIL PLAN FOR THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

IT'S HARD TO SEE.

THIS BUT WE HAVE CUTOUTS HERE ALONG THIS TRAIL WITH PARK BENCHES THAT FOLKS CAN COME AND ENJOY THE OPEN SPACE AND THE CANOPY OF THE TREES.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE SOME PARK BENCHES AND SOME TABLES ALONG THE DRIVE HERE.

SO THIS IS AN EXISTING CONCRETE DRIVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO RETAIN AS A TRAIL HERE IN ORDER TO NOT DISTURB THESE TWO TREES, THE TREES ON EITHER SIDE, THESE BIG LIVE OAKS.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER SHARLEY SAID TO US AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

CORRIDOR COMMITTEE WAS TO SAVE THOSE TREES.

SO WHEN WE AMENDED OUR PLAN, WE HAD AN OPEN SPACE THERE IN AN EFFORT TO SAVE THOSE TREES AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, TREES ARE IMPORTANT TO US.

WE JUST WANT TO GO KNOCK DOWN TREES BECAUSE WE MIGHT KNOCK OVER TREES.

I MEAN, THAT'S GOOD FOR BUSINESS TO KEEP TREES.

SO IN EVERY INSTANCE THAT WE CAN DO THAT THROUGHOUT THE SITE AND THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT IN ADDITION TO ADDING ADDITIONAL TREES TO A LOT TO THEMSELVES.

SO PARK BENCHES, CUTOUTS, PICNIC TABLES, AND TRAIL.

THE MY ANSWER TO COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT OPEN SPACE.

AND THERE WERE TREES REMOVED IN THAT AREA, IS THAT CORRECT? IN THE OPEN SPACE THAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE, NO SIR, I MEAN NO TREES REMOVED.

I'M PRETTY SURE I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I HAVE TO ASK IT.

THAT EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PRESERVE AND LINE THE TREES, DOES THAT HAVE A CURB CUT OR IS THAT GOING AWAY? THE CURB CUT THERE, THE APPROACH ONTO DAVIS BOULEVARD WILL BE ELIMINATED, SO THERE'S NO ACCESS THERE.

AND WE'RE PUTTING WROUGHT IRON FENCE ON OUR FENCE PLAN.

THAT'S A WROUGHT IRON FENCE THAT GOES ACROSS THERE, SO YOU HAVE A PEEKABOO INTO THAT OPEN SPACE AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN DAVIS.

SO IT'S NOT A SOLID SIX-FOOT WALL.

THAT WHOLE DISTANCE.

ONE OF THE COMMENTS I SAW FROM THE QUARTER PLANNING WAS FROM COMMISSIONER KUBIAK ABOUT ARTICULATION AND DESIGN QUALITY ALONG DAVIS FRONTAGE, INCLUDING WALLS, FENCING AND LANDSCAPING.

SO MAYBE YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING BESIDES BUILDING THE GREAT WALL OF SOUTHLAND.

SURE.

WE WILL HAVE SOME TEXTURE TO THAT WALL.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A STRAIGHT SHOT.

WE'LL HAVE SOME STEP OUTS THAT COME OUT, SOME OPEN SPACE.

WE'LL PUT SOME ROD IRON FENCE IN THERE AS WELL, SOME PICKET MOVES ON THE TOP PART OF THAT WALL.

THE DETAILS OF EXACTLY WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE, I DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY.

BUT CERTAINLY WE DON'T JUST WANT TO HAVE A BRICK CANYON GOING DOWN DAVIS BOULEVARD THERE.

THAT'S NOT OUR INTENT.

AND A LOT OF WHAT WE'LL DO THERE IS, AS YOU SEE HERE, LANDSCAPING IN FRONT OF THAT WALL.

SO I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE WALL WILL BE HIDDEN WITH LANDSCAPING IN ITS EVENTUALITY.

BUT, YES, FOR SURE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE PEEKABOO THERE.

WE'LL TAKE AWAY THAT ENTRANCE, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK IN THERE AND SEE THOSE TREES AS YOU DO TODAY.

THAT OPEN SPACE IS THERE AS WELL.

AND THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THE QUESTION.

ACROSS THAT EASEMENT THAT YOU APPEAR TO SHOW ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT GOES RIGHT NOW TO A LAND USE PLAN AS ITS OWN.

IT'S MIXED USE.

THERE'S NO PLANS THERE THAT I'M AWARE OF.

I'VE REACHED OUT TO THAT OWNER.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE DID WHEN WE TOOK THIS TO STAFF.

STAFF ASKED US TO PUT THAT THERE.

WE'VE BEEN SUBJECT TO LACK OF ACCESSIBILITY IN PROJECTS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

SO IN ORDER TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, THAT'S WHY WE EXTENDED THAT CUL-DE-SAC THERE.

SO OUR INTENTION WOULD BE IF THAT BECOMES COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH OF US, THAT WE PUT A FIRE AND POLICE ACCESS GATE THERE SO IT'S NOT CROSSING TRAFFIC SO THOSE NEIGHBORS WON'T SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T THEY COME UP FROM THE TACO BELL THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHATEVER MIGHT END UP BEING THERE.

BUT OUR INTENTION IS FOR ACCESSIBILITY THERE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER FOX, FOR TAKING ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AWAY BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THAT CUL-DE-SAC AND RELIVING ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE HAD THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 18 YEARS.

SO...

SO MY QUESTION PRIMARILY IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY JUST RECENTLY PASSED A VERY NICE ROBUST STORMWATER MASTER PLAN.

AND ONE OF THE TOPICS IN THERE KIND OF APPLIES TO THIS PROPERTY.

WHERE WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A CREEK, AND WE'RE CHANGING THE DRAINAGE OF THIS PROPERTY, WITHOUT A DOUBT.

SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE, AS FAR AS THE SHEET FLOW FROM THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE DOING, I GUESS MY DIRECT QUESTION ON THIS IS, LOOKING AT RUNOFF COEFFICIENT THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PRE-CONSTRUCTION LIST, TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MORE OF A MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL NUMBER VERSUS A MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL NUMBER.

OF CONDITIONS THAT ARE THERE NOW.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL CLASSIFICATION OF WHERE THOSE NUMBERS CAME FROM.

NOW, THERE'S A CHART OF WHERE THAT, WHOEVER DID THIS DESIGN FOR YOU, WHERE THEY CAME UP WITH A .51 VERSUS, LIKE, SAY, A .1 TO .3.

WELL, AS I STATED,

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I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.

WE HIRE PROFESSIONALS.

WE HAVE OUR ENGINEER FROM WESTWOOD SERVICES.

THEY'RE A NATIONWIDE ENGINEERING FIRM WITH THOUSANDS OF ENGINEERS ON STAFF.

THE POINT OF THE DRAINAGE HERE BEING ALONG...

ALONG THE FLOOD PLAIN IS TO REDUCE PEAK FLOW.

THERE'S A LARGE DRAINAGE BASIN GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH.

THE THEORY IS THAT WE WANT OUR WATER TO GET OUT OF THE CREEK SO THAT THE WATER THAT'S COMING FROM THE NORTH AND THE OTHER DRAINAGE BASIN HAS A PLACE TO GO.

IF WE WERE TO PUT DETENTION HERE, WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THE SAME PLAIN AS THEM.

IT ACTUALLY DOES INCREASE PEAK FLOW IF WE DID DETENTION HERE.

THAT'S THE MOTIVE IS WE WANT TO GET THAT WATER OFF OF OUR SITE INTO THE DRAINAGE BASIN BEFORE OUR NEIGHBOR.

NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH HAVE TO DRAIN INTO THE DRAINAGE BASIN.

SO REDUCING PEAK FLOW IS REALLY WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY HERE BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING SPACE FOR THE STUFF TO THE NORTH TO DRAIN IN THERE.

NOW, AS FAR AS CALCULATIONS ARE CONCERNED, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE OUR ENGINEER COME UP HERE AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE METHOD THEY USE TO CALCULATE THAT.

AS I SAY, WE HIRE PROFESSIONALS, AND PART OF THAT IS OUR RISK AS DEVELOPERS.

WE THINK IT WORKS THE WAY THAT WE PRESENTED IT.

IF IN THE FUTURE IT PROVES FROM STAFF THAT IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO RECONNOITER AND LOSE LOTS TO ACCOMMODATE FOR DRAINAGE.

BUT TODAY, AS IT STANDS TODAY, WE BELIEVE THIS IS SUFFICIENT AND COMPLIES WITH CITY CODE AND ORDINANCE.

SO, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM.

YOU KNOW, WE HEAR WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS HERE WITH STAFF, OF COURSE, STAFF IS WELCOME TO RESPOND TO THIS, THAT THE POST-CONSTRUCTION DISCHARGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME, BETTER THAN THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION DISCHARGE.

OF WATER.

IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHETHER IT'S ADJACENT TO THE CREEK OR NOT.

WATER HERE WOULD LOOK LIKE IT WOULD FLOW INTO THAT CREEK.

SO A RETENTION POND ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD SLOW DOWN WATER DISCHARGE INTO THE CREEK SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE A TREMENDOUS INCREASE IN WATER TO DOWNSTREAM PROPERTIES.

BUT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT DOING ANY TYPE OF RETENTION POND ON THE PROPERTY AND SO WHAT SIZE? WELL, I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES.

AS WE DID OUR PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE STUDY THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR QUESTIONS.

TO HAVE DETENTION HERE.

I THINK WHAT WE HEARD FROM LATIN CLAIRE 4 ENGINEERS IS THAT NO, YOU DON'T WANT DETENTION IN THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE PEAK FLOW.

SO IF WE DETAIN AND WAIT AND HOLD OUR WATER BACK, WHEN ALL THE OTHER WATER IS COMING FROM THE NORTH DOWN THE CREEK TO US, NOW WE'VE INCREASED PEAK FLOW.

SO IS THERE A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE OF FLOW OFF OF OUR SITE INTO THE CREEK BECAUSE THERE'S NOT DETENTION? YES, BUT THAT'S THE POINT.

WE WANT TO GET THE WATER OUT OF THE CREEK SO THERE'S ROOM FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH.

I'M NOT TRYING TO LITIGATE DRAINAGE AND ENGINEERING THAT'S A CONSTRUCTION ISSUE, NOT A LAND USE ISSUE.

BUT AS I SAID, THAT'S OUR RISK.

SO IF IT COMES BACK IN THE FUTURE THAT INDEED WE NEED DETENTION, THEN OKAY, WE'LL HAVE TO LOSE SOME LOTS TO PUT NEW DITCH IN THERE.

SO TO THAT POINT, THOUGH, AGAIN, I GUESS IT KIND OF COMES DOWN TO WHAT THAT COEFFICIENT IS AND WHY A COEFFICIENT WOULD BE USED BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN A .51 YOU HAVE VERSUS A .59, WHAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD POINT OF VIEW DESIGN TO YOUR MASTER PLAN? BUT A 0.1 TO 0.3 COEFFICIENT FOR AN UNDEVELOPED PIECE OF PROPERTY WOULD INDICATE ALMOST A DOUBLING AMOUNT OF WATER THAT YOU'RE DISCHARGING.

SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD SEE THAT, WHERE THAT NUMBER, THAT POINT WOULD BE.

I'M SURE WE CAN DELINEATE THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL SAY ALSO TO COUNCILMAN TAGGART, THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT THIS JUST BEING OPEN FIELD.

WELL, AFTER A HALF INCH OF RAIN, AN OPEN FIELD DISCHARGES.

AS MUCH WATER AS A PARKING LOT.

ONCE THE GRASS IS SATURATED, THAT WATER GOES OFF INTO THE SYSTEM.

SO IT REALLY IS AN ISSUE OF, OKAY, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A HALF-INCH RAIN? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A QUARTER-INCH RAIN? YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO DELINEATE THAT STUFF.

WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE ON WHAT CONCRETE DOES VERSUS THE EARTH.

FAIR ENOUGH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU, SIR.

WE MAY CALL UPON YOU LATER ON.

ITEM 7A IS A FIRST READING AND DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 7A. I'LL NOTE THAT WE HAVE SOME ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT SUBMITTALS, AND I'LL READ THOSE FOR THE RECORD FIRST, THEN WE'LL...

OPEN IT UP FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T SPEAK.

FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT FORM OF ONLINE JOHN SCHINDLER, 804 PARKDALE COURT, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK WITH RECORDS OPPOSITION TO 7A.

NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT WITH RESPECT TO ITEM 7A, 44 PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND NO RESPONSES HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AS OF TODAY.

NOW WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS SUBMITTED IN PERSON.

FIRST UP IS SHERRY BERMAN AT 818 PARKDALE DRIVE.

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IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK REGARDING 7A.

AND IT'S NOTED ON YOUR CARD THAT YOU WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF 7A.

AND IF YOU COULD JUST, EVEN THOUGH I STATED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THEN YOU'LL HAVE THOSE THREE MINUTES.

HI, I'M SHERRY BERMAN, 818 PARKDALE DRIVE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

SO I'M SPEAKING AS A HOMEOWNER THAT LIVES IN A FLOODPLAIN THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS.

AND AS YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE SHOWED YOU ON APRIL 7TH, NURSE, WATER THAT HAS GONE FROM A FIVE-FOOT CREEK TO PROBABLY ABOUT A 40-FOOT, HALF A FOOT.

FALL WIDE OF JUST WATER, VELOCITY OF WATER FLOWING.

AND IT SPINS TO FENCE.

IT'S HITTING THE FLOODPLAIN.

IT'S HITTING THE 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN.

SO ON THAT MAP, YOU'LL SEE 13 HOMES.

THIS IS ALL DOWNSTREAM FROM WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE BUILT.

AND THERE ARE 13 HOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY, THIS IS THE SATELLITE MAP, IN THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN.

AND THERE'S 13 HOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY...

SHOWN IN THE 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN.

SO I'M NOT HERE ABOUT ANTI-GROWTH.

I'M HERE ABOUT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH CONSISTENT WITH OUR NEW STORMWATER PLAN.

BUT THE PLAN WAS JUST APPROVED LAST MONTH, AND WE KNOW IT TAKES TIME TO UPDATE THE POLICY AND THE ORDINANCES SINCE THE NEW ADOPTION.

BECAUSE THIS PROJECT HAS ALREADY STARTED, I KNOW IT NEEDS TO BE ACTED ON.

SO AS I SEE IT, FROM A HOMEOWNER, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

FIRST AND ELEMENT AT THE WAY THE DEVELOPMENT IS THE GROSS SITE AREA CURRENTLY INCLUDES LAND WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.

SO THE ACREAGE LOCATED IN THE FLOODPLAIN SHOULD BE COMPLETELY EXCLUDED FROM THE GROSS AREA CALCULATION.

THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE SHOULD BE NO LESS THAN ONE-THIRD OF AN ACRE, AND THE NUMBER OF HOMES NEED TO BE REDUCED.

CURRENTLY, THIS PROPERTY IS TOO DENSE.

THERE IS NO RETENTION POND.

THERE NEEDS TO BE ENOUGH LAND TO SOAK UP THE WATER AND PREVENT IT FROM GOING DOWN INTO THE DRAINAGE OF THE TRIBUTARY.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT.

MAP, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT GO INTO SOUTH LAKE.

IT ALSO GOES INTO KELLER AND IT GOES INTO COLLEYVILLE. AND SO THERE ARE NUMEROUS HOUSES THERE.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT A TEMPORARY INTERIM POLICY OF NO NEW VARIANCES, BAR PADS AND DENSITY INCREASES TO BE APPROVED IN THAT FLOODPLAIN, CRITICAL DRAINAGE AREAS FOR ALONG THE BIG BEAR CREEK, GET CRAZY.

AND ITS TRIBUTARIES UNTIL THE STAFF BRINGS BACK POLICY AND ORDINANCE UPDATES REQUIRED BY THE NEWLY ADOPTED STORMWATER MASTER PLAN.

BECAUSE OF TIME, PLEASE DIRECT STAFF TO PRESENT WITHIN THE SET TIME FRAME FOR NEW POLICY ORDINANCES AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCEDURES NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT THE APPROVED STORMWATER PLAN ALONG WITH THE SCHEDULE OF ADOPTION.

AND FOR CURRENT PROJECTS IN QUEUE THAT TOUCH THE MAP FLOODPLAIN OR CRITICAL DRAINAGE STRUCTURE, PLEASE REQUIRE AN INDEPENDENT...

SELECT.

ENGINEERING REVIEW PAID BY THE APPLICANT TILL THE NEW WATERSHED SCALE MODELING AND CRITERIA IN PLACE.

WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU, DON'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU GET THIS NEW STORMWATER PLAN PUT INTO PLACE.

JUST PUT IT...

NOT A MORATORIUM, JUST A SET TIMEFRAME.

AND GET THIS NEW THING PUT INTO PLACE SO THAT WE DON'T SEE ANY MORE FLOODING.

NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS FROM AL ZITO, 501 POTOMAC PLACE.

WE'LL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM 7A.

AGAIN, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, EVEN THOUGH I JUST DID IT.

AND YOU'LL HAVE THOSE THREE MINUTES.

CALZITO, 501 POTOMAC.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY HERE.

I HOPE EVERYONE'S HAVING A GOOD NIGHT.

YES, IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PARTICULAR PLAN BECAUSE OF A COUPLE REASONS.

NUMBER ONE IS, JODY SPOKE A FEW TIMES ABOUT THE PEOPLE NORTH DRAINING IN.

WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE SOUTH DRAINING OUT? THAT'S THE PROBLEM HERE.

WE'VE GOT A FLOODPLAIN ISSUE THAT'S CONTINUING TO GROW.

I NOTICED THAT WITH LOTS 26 TO 30, HOW THEY'VE GOT SOME OF THOSE LOTS ABOUT 20% OR SO IN THE FLOODPLAIN TO INCREASE THEIR LOT SIZE TO CHANGE THEIR AVERAGE.

THAT WAS AN INTERESTING LITTLE THING THERE.

BUT THE LACK OF A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT MITIGATION PLAN FOR THIS PARCEL IS A CRITICAL CONCERN.

AND I...

I CAN'T EXPRESS HOW MUCH THE DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND HOW IT MOVES FORWARD MATTER.

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YES, WE WANT TO SEE DEVELOPMENT BY ALL MEANS.

LIKE SHERRY, I'M NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.

I WANT TO SEE THESE THINGS HAPPEN, BUT I WANT TO SEE THEM HAPPEN RESPONSIBLY.

WE'VE GROWN NOW TO THE POINT OF SEEING THE 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN BEING INFRINGED ON MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR.

AND IT'S CONSISTENTLY GETTING WORSE, INCLUDING EVEN GOING UP TO THE 500-YEAR FLOODPLAIN, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A 0.02% CHANCE EACH YEAR THAT THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

SO AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FORWARD ON THIS, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT WE'VE GOT A BETTER FLOOD STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN ON THIS PARTICULAR LOT.

I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT IT'S BEING DEVELOPED FOR RESIDENTIAL.

I DO THINK THAT IT IS WAY TOO DENSE.

AND TO SEE WHAT IS PLANNED FOR OR WAS SF1 AND ESTATE LOTS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT TO GO TO SUCH SMALL LOTS AND SUCH HEAVY COVERAGE ON IT WITH THESE SMALL SIDE YARDS IS ALARMING.

IT'S THE AMOUNT OF WATER.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S GOING TO HIT SOUTH, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY GOT A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND SURE DO HOPE THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER PLAN HERE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SITUATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 7A IS STILL OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING ITEM 7A? YES, SIR.

COME ON DOWN.

AND IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THOSE THREE MINUTES.

DAVID DOWD.

I LIVE IN 2900 HILL CASTLE, SOUTH LAKE.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

I JUST LOOKED AT THIS TODAY, SO I HAVEN'T GOT A LOT OF STUDYING GOING ON.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE AT LEAST TWO OF THESE LOTS WERE THE FIVE, RE5 LOTS.

SO THAT'S HALF OF THE ACREAGE ALLOTTED TODAY WOULD ONLY HAVE TWO HOUSES ON IT, AND THE REST OF IT WOULD BE.

SF1A.

SO THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF IS GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS COMPARED TO TODAY'S ZONING.

AND YOU NEED, I WOULD LIKE TO HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR WOULD LOOK AT THE DOWNSTREAM IMPACT.

ALL OVER THE CITY WE'VE GOT ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE.

SOONER OR LATER THE CITY IS EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE AS IS OR START TRYING.

TRYING TO FIX SOME OF THE LITTLE PROBLEMS. AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

THIS LAND WILL DEVELOP.

THIS LAND WILL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH THE EXISTING ZONING IF IT COMES ON THE MARKET AS SUCH.

ALL THESE LITTLE PLACES ARE GETTING BUILT UP, AND THE PEOPLE DOWNSTREAM PAY FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS WITH THE LOSS OF LAND, WITH THE MITIGATION.

OF DRAINAGE REPAIRS.

ANYWAY, YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT...

WHAT THE IMPACT IS DOWNSTREAM IN ANY CONSIDERATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN ON ITEM 7A. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 7A? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

ALL RIGHT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 7A.

COUNCIL, DO WE WANT TO BRING UP DIRECTOR KILLO OR THE APPLICANT FOR ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? I'LL QUIT FOR DIRECTOR KILLO.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN ON THIS IS, REMIND ME.

MIXED USE, MIXED LAND USE DESIGNATION, WHICH IS BROADEST LAND USE IN OUR LAND USE PLAN.

IT PERMITS RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, AND RECOMMENDS COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT, AS COMPREHENSIVE AS PRACTICAL FOR THE TYPE OF PROPERTY YOU'RE WORKING WITH.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR ZILLOW? YES.

AS I RECALL, MIXED USE DOES PERMIT A RESIDENTIAL COMPUMP FOR A RESIDENTIAL.

THAT IS CORRECT.

IS THERE A REASON THAT THE STAFF DIDN'T RECOMMEND OR THE APPLICANT DIDN'T COME FORWARD WITH THE LAND USE PLAN TO CHANGE THIS TO MIXED USE? THE ONLY REASON IS BECAUSE IT IS PERMITTED WITH THE LAND USE

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CATEGORY AND IT DID NOT IN AND OF ITSELF DRAW THE NEED TO DO SO.

DO YOU HAVE AVAILABLE THAT DRAINAGE MAP WE LOOKED AT EARLIER IN THE DAY, THAT MORE COLORFUL ONE THAT SHOWS THE FLOODPLAIN? THE FEMA MAP? YES, I DO.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT THAT ON THE SCREEN? YES, I CAN MAKE THAT.

I CAN SEE THAT.

IT'S A LOT EASIER.

IT'S A LOT MORE SO THAN SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE SEEN.

THIS IS JUST A COPY OF THE FEMA MAP FOR THAT REGION RUNNING FROM WEST SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD SOUTH THROUGH THE ADJOINING MICHAEL DRIVE.

DRIVE ALMOST VERY, VERY CLOSE TO UNION CHURCH WHERE IT BEGINS TO CROSS DAVID'S BUILDING.

AND IF WE CONTINUE SOUTH ON THIS MAP, IT WOULD JUMP INTO...

CORRECT.

YEAH, AFTER CROSSING DAVIS BOULEVARD AND TRAVERSING A FEW MORE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, YES, IT MAKES ITS WAY TO BEAR CREEK.

COULD YOU SPEAK TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TEAL AND THE AREA THAT'S ACROSS THE RED CROSS HATCH? YES, THE TEAL AREA IS 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN, AND THE CROSS-HATCHED AREA IS THE 100-YEAR FLOODWAY.

AND THE FLOODWAY IS, THEY'RE PROHIBITED FROM IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FLOODWAY, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FLOODPLAIN ARE LIMITED TO HOW MUCH RISE IT CREATES WITHIN THAT FLOODWAY STORMWATER ELEVATION.

I THINK IT ALL COMES BACK TO THOSE LOT SIZES.

TWO CENTS ON THIS.

WE HAVE TOO MANY LOTS AND THEY'RE TOO SMALL.

I RESPECT THE IDEA, AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, ABOUT LOOKING AT WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE DOING OR WHAT WAS DONE.

THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS DAVIS WE HAVE SOME TTE DEVELOPMENTS.

A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, COUNCIL MEMBER FOX AND MR. ZITO AND I WORKED ON OVERHAULING TTE TO ADDRESS SOME CONCERNS.

THAT WERE COMING UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN ON TGE.

THIS LOOKS MORE LIKE A TGE PLAN THAN REALLY AN ARPA.

SO I THINK A LOT OF THE ISSUES, COUNCILMEMBER FOX BROUGHT UP ON SIDE YARDS, THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE.

I THINK A LOT OF THESE ARE PRODUCTS OF A TGE TYPE OF PLAN.

SO THAT'S JUST TOO MUCH DENSITY AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF LOTS AND THE SMALL SIZE OF THE LOTS FOR I CAN RECORD A LOT OF GOOD OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID AND I'M GOING TO REPEAT THAT.

THEM FOR A GLANCE BUT I THINK WE NEED ANOTHER SHOT AT THIS AND I'LL BE AGAINST AS PRESENTED TONIGHT.

COUNCIL ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE WE HAVE A MOTION ON 7A? I THINK MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS APPROPRIATE.

AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A PUTT THERE.

THE DENSITY IS AN ISSUE AND THE LOT COVERAGE IS AN ISSUE TO ME.

IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE SOUTHLAKE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE EFFORTS ALONG DAVIS.

I MIGHT HAVE LIKED TO HAVE THE WALL A LITTLE FURTHER BACK.

THERE'S SO MANY OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE TAMRON, MYERS MEADOWS, PUT LARGE BUFFER YARDS BETWEEN BIG ROADS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

BUT YOU'VE GIVEN US AT LEAST A FAIR RUN AT IT, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT IF YOU WERE TO BRING IT BACK, I THINK IT'S ADDRESSING THE DENSITY.

AND QUITE HONESTLY, MOST OF YOUR OPEN SPACE, OR LET'S SAY HALF OF YOUR OPEN SPACE, IS COMPLETELY UNUSABLE AND UNDEVELOPABLE.

AND DIRECTOR KELO CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS SOME DISCRETION IN WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THEIR OWN.

OPEN SPACE WE WOULD ALLOW FOR IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE TOWARDS THEIR DESTINY CALCULATIONS.

IS THAT CORRECT? WITH IT BEING A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, YES, YOU HAVE DISCRETION IN YOUR CONSIDERATION AS TO WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THE OPEN SPACE AND HOW THEY'RE PROVIDING IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT

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CAN BE COUNTED TOWARDS OPEN SPACE ARE WRITTEN INTO THE PUD PEACE.

SPECIFICALLY FOR DETENTION AREAS, NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR FLOODPLAINS, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S DESIRABLE TO TRY TO PRESERVE THOSE ANYWAY.

BUT NONETHELESS, WITH THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF LATITUDE IN HOW YOU CONSIDER ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO YOU FOR THAT RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

THAT INCLUDES OPEN SPACE AND THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT OPEN SPACE.

MR. GARY, I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK WE ARE IN FAVOR OF A RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT HERE.

I VOTED AGAINST THE FIVE-STORY SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING THING A YEAR OR SO AGO, WHENEVER THAT WAS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH RESIDENTIAL.

WE JUST HAVE SOME TWEAKS TO DO.

COUNCIL MEMBER TAGGART, I THINK.

YES, THANK YOU.

I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF HOW IT LOOKS.

I APPRECIATE THE.

HE'S TRYING TO CONSERVE THE TREES AND HAVE A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I AGREE RESIDENTIAL COULD BE GOOD.

I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME LOOKING AT A PROPERTY LIKE THIS THAT COULD HAVE MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WHICH MEANS 20,000 SQUARE FOOT, VERSUS ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT, UNLESS THERE'S SOME MAJOR REASON AS TO WHY THAT THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.

AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THAT AND A LOWER DENSITY CITY IS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE A CERTAIN FEEL IN SOUTH LAKE AND A STANDARD OF LIVING.

AND THAT IMPACTS OUR DRAINAGE.

AND SO AS ONE OF THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT SAID, THE FOLKS DOWNSTREAM, THEY SUFFER FROM THAT.

SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DRAINAGE IN HERE RECENTLY.

WE TALKED ABOUT REGIONAL ISSUES.

WELL, THIS IS THE CAUSE OF A REGIONAL ISSUE.

AND WE TALK ABOUT LOCAL ISSUES, LOCAL DRAINAGE ISSUES.

THIS IS INSIDE OF A WATERSHED WHICH WILL IMPACT AREAS OF SOUTH LAKE, NOT COMING FROM KELLER OR OTHER CITIES.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT.

I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH THIS RUNOFF COEFFICIENT THAT I LOOKED AT TODAY BECAUSE THE NUMBER THAT I SAW CORRESPONDED WITH THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE.

AND IF YOU APPLY THE...

A RUNOFF COEFFICIENT THAT ACTUALLY IS IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR OWN STAFF EVEN SAID THIS PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE, WHICH IS UNDEVELOPED LAND, THEN YOU SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF WATER RUNOFF THAT'S CALCULATED BY AN ENGINEER.

AND I HAD EVEN HEARD, I WAS AT A SEMINAR NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND 12 ENGINEERS WILL GIVE YOU 12 DIFFERENT ANSWERS.

AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE THE ANSWER IS JUST A BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

SO THAT'S HOW I FEEL ON THIS RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO INVITE YOU, MR. BEHR.

A COUPLE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE TZD OR YOUR COMMENT THERE.

WE WENT TO CORRIDOR COMMITTEE WITH THE TZD PLAN.

WE WERE TOLD AT CORRIDOR THE FEEDBACK WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT A TZD PLAN HERE.

WE HAD 38 LOTS ON OUR PLAN AT CORRIDOR.

WE ELIMINATED THE TZD COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF THAT AND LOST A COUPLE OF LOTS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT.

WE'VE TAKEN NOTES.

YOU KNOW.

WITH YOUR APPROVAL, WE'D LIKE TO TABLE TONIGHT AND GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, ADDRESS MORE CLEARLY THE DRAINAGE COEFFICIENT, AND GET A FIRM ANSWER FOR THAT.

BUT I AGREEABLE TO COUNSEL, WE'D LIKE TO TABLE TONIGHT AND COME BACK.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IF AN APPLICANT DOES REQUEST A TABLE, WE'RE TYPICALLY RECEPTIVE OF THAT.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS FROM ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND SO WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME HOMEWORK.

I THINK YOU'LL PROBABLY NEED MORE THAN THE TWO WEEKS, SO IF YOU WANT TO BE TABLED TO A CERTAIN DATE OR JUST INDEFINITELY HIRED.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME EFFICIENT PROFESSIONALS THAT WE'VE HIRED.

I'D LIKE TO TABLE FOR THE TWO WEEKS, AND OBVIOUSLY IF WE COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND AREN'T READY, WE'LL BE PREPARED TO TABLE AGAIN AT THAT TIME.

WE HAVE SOME CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS TO OUR SELLER.

HE'S IN POOR HEALTH, SO I'D LIKE TO TRY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, BUT IF WE CAN DO IT FOR TWO WEEKS, WE'D APPRECIATE THAT.

JUST FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH, IF THEY WANTED TO BE ON OUR NEXT MEETING AGENDA, WHEN WOULD THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR PAPERWORK TO YOUR OFFICE TO GET ON THAT NEXT MEETING? UNFORTUNATELY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SAY TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOLIDAY COMING UP, I BELIEVE ON MONDAY.

VERY SHORT WINDOW TO PREPARE YOUR PACKETS, WHICH WILL NEED TO BE DONE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, SO, FOR THAT JUNE 2ND MEETING.

WELL, AS I SAID, THEY'RE EFFICIENT.

YOUR CALL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, LIKE, NEXT MEETING OR OTHER MEETING AFTER THE SERVE WEEKEND, WE CAN MAKE THAT MOTION AT THE TABLE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT

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OF WHAT HAPPENS TOMORROW, LET'S GO FOR THE MEETING FOLLOWING THE 2ND.

AND THEN WE WON'T MOVE THE STUDY NOW.

WE DO NOT LEAVE THE MONTH OF JULY.

GUYS, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.

YEAH.