[1. Call to order. ] [00:00:04] GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE AND WELCOME TO OUR SOUTHLAKE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR JUNE 2ND, 2026. MY NAME IS SEAN MCCASKILL AND AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, I CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR WORK SESSION AS WE ALWAYS DO. AND PASTOR CLAYTON REED IS OUT OF TOWN TRAVELING WITH HIS FAMILY, SO IN HIS PLACE WE HAVE JASON COLLINS, ALSO FROM SOUTHLAKE BAPTIST CHURCH, WHO WILL LEAD US IN PRAYER. AND THEN IF YOU ARE ABLE TO REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE TEXAS PLEDGE. PASTOR COLLINS. WELCOME, SIR. GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, THIS PRIVILEGE, THIS HONOR TO GATHER TOGETHER AS SERVANTS FOR THIS COMMUNITY, FOR THIS CITY, AND ULTIMATELY FOR YOU, FOR YOUR KINGDOM. GOD, WE PRAY FOR WISDOM IN ALL THE THINGS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED, THOUGHT THROUGH, TALKED THROUGH, DECIDED UPON TONIGHT, THAT IT WOULD ALL GO ACCORDING TO YOUR PLAN AND YOUR GLORY. LET THERE BE DISCERNMENT ON EVERYONE'S PART AS WE LISTEN TO EACH OTHER. AND AS THEY THINK THROUGH BEST STRATEGIES, LORD, FOR CONTINUING TO MAKE SOUTHLAKE A CITY THAT IS BUILT TO LAST. WE THANK YOU FOR HOW YOU HAVE BLESSED, AND WE KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO BLESS, AGAIN, ACCORDING TO YOUR NAME AND ACCORDING TO YOUR KINGDOM. AND IT IS IN YOUR NAME THAT WE PRAY. AMEN. THANK YOU, PASTOR COLLINS. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THANK YOU PASTOR COLLINS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. NEXT IS WORK SESSION ITEM [3. A Salute to Future Defenders: A Ceremony for Military-Bound Graduates ] NUMBER THREE, A SALUTE TO FUTURE DEFENDERS AND A CEREMONY FOR OUR MILITARY BOUND HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES. THIS IS A SPECIAL CEREMONY THAT WE STARTED A FEW YEARS AGO. I WAS VISITING WITH... SUPERINTENDENT DR. GLENN, A FEW MINUTES AGO, AND THE STATISTICS REALLY TELL THE STORY OF HOW EXCEPTIONAL CAROL ISD IS IN MANY WAYS, BUT ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT TO STUDENTS AND GRADUATES WHO GO TO THE MILITARY ACADEMIES. DR. GLENN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I GET THIS WRONG, BUT THERE'S VARIOUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE MAYBE ONE GRADUATE OVER FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN YEARS WHO WILL JOIN. THE MILITARY ACADEMY. THIS YEAR IN CARROLL ISD, AND IT'S BEEN THIS WAY FOR MANY YEARS SO THIS IS NOT A ONE-OFF, BUT THIS YEAR IN CARROLL ISD, WE HAVE FIVE EXCEPTIONAL STUDENTS WHO WILL BE CONTINUING THEIR EDUCATION AND THEIR CAREERS. THAT IS IMPRESSIVE. WE HAVE THE HONOR OF HAVING TWO OF THOSE STUDENTS, TWO OF THESE DRAGONS GRADUATES HERE THIS EVENING. JOHN MARK FRAGA AND LUCAS OLIVER SHUG, IF YOU GUYS WOULD MIND COMING DOWN TO THE PODIUM. I'M ALSO GOING TO INVITE OUR FRIEND RICK GRESH FROM THE AMERICAN LEGION, WHO'S GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS, BUT IF THE THREE OF YOU COULD COME ON DOWN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. RICK, COME ON DOWN. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE SOUTH LAKE CITY COUNCIL, AND STAFF, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE PRO-OPERATORS. JOHN, MARK, AND LUCAS, YOU'RE HEADING TO ROTC PROGRAMS AND TO WEST POINT. WHILE MANY OF YOUR CLASSMATES, I SAID BEFORE, CHOSE ONE OF THE PAST LEAST RESISTANT, YOU CHOSE THE HARDEST, AND THAT DECISION ALREADY SAYS EVERYTHING. I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A RETIRED AIR FORCE COLONEL AND FIGHTER PILOT WHO SERVED... [00:05:01] 27 YEARS IN OUR NATION'S UNIFORM. I'VE FLOWN COMBAT MISSIONS, TRAINED YOUNG PILOTS AND LED SQUADRONS, COMPOSITE GROUPS AND AIRWAVES. I'VE HAD MY SHARE OF DAYS WONDERING, WHAT HAVE I GOTTEN MYSELF INTO? BUT I WOULD DO IT EVERY SINGLE MINUTE, ALL OVER AGAIN. LET ME BE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT LIFE IS. YOUR TRAINING WILL TEST YOU PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY IN WAYS YOU'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED. YOU'LL BE TIRED. YOU'LL BE STRESSED AND YOU'LL HAVE MOMENTS WHEN YOU QUESTION YOUR DECISION. YOU WILL LEARN THAT TRUE LEADERSHIP ISN'T ABOUT BEING THE SMARTEST OR THE STRONGEST PERSON IN THE ROOM. IT'S ABOUT SHOWING UP WHEN IT'S HARD. IT'S ABOUT TAKING CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE AND PUTTING THEM IN. YOU WILL FACE FAILURE. THE MILITARY HAS GIVEN YOU A UNIQUE WAY, AND THEY WILL, GIVE THEM A UNIQUE WAY OF EXPOSING YOUR WEAKNESSES QUICKLY. THAT'S NOT CRUELTY. IT'S HOW IT FORGES STRENGTH. BUT FOR EVERY CHALLENGE, THERE'S A CORRESPONDING REWARD THAT CIVILIANS WILL RARELY UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW THE UNBREAKABLE BOND, YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THE WORD, BUT IT'S FORMED WHEN YOU'RE EXHAUSTED, COLD, WET, YET STILL PUSHING FORWARD TOGETHER. YOU WILL BE EXPERIENCED WITH QUIET PRIDE FOR SERVING SOMETHING FAR BIGGER THAN YOURSELF. YOU WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT MOST PEOPLE HERE IN ITALY DREAM. FLYING AIRCRAFT, YES. THE ARMY HAS AIRCRAFT, LEADING TROOPS, OPERATING COMPLEX SYSTEMS, TRAVELING THE WORLD, AND CARRYING REAL NEWS. I'D LIKE TO SHARE A QUICK STORY TO BRING THIS POINT HOME. AS A 24-YEAR-OLD FIRST LIEUTENANT STATIONED AT RAF WOODBRIDGE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM, I CAME HOME WITH MY WIFE DURING CHRISTMAS EVE WITH OUR NEWBORN. WHILE VISITING FRIENDS FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE, THE CONVERSATION TURNED TO JOBS AND SUMMER VACATION. MOST HAD NEVER LEFT THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA. WHEN THEY ASKED ABOUT MARY'S LIFE, LIVING IN THE BARRACKS, MY WIFE SMILED AND EXPLAINED, WE ACTUALLY LIVED IN A NORMAL TWO BEDROOM HOME. THERE'S A LOT OF MISNOMERS. WHAT WE DIDN'T SAY THAT NIGHT WAS THE WHOLE THING. I WAS ALSO SITTING NUCLEAR ALERT WITH A B61 BOMB STRAPPED TO MY F4 PHANTOM. THIS WEAPON HAD MORE THAN TWICE THE DESTRUCTIVE POWER OF BOB'S DROP. THIS WEAPON HAD, AT THE SAME TIME, JUST TWO YEARS OVERSEAS DURING THAT ASSIGNMENT, WE'D ALREADY VISITED EIGHT COUNTRIES. MY WIFE AND I LATER TOOK MY PARENTS ON A TWO-AND-A-HALF-WEEK DRIVING TOUR ACROSS EUROPE. SO YOU SEE MILITARY LIFE MOST IS INCREDIBLY DEMANDING. HERE'S SOME HARD ADVICE FROM AN OLD FIGHTER PILOT. KEEP YOUR INTEGRITY. YOUR WORD AND CHARACTER ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT TRULY BELONG TO YOU. NEVER COME. TAKE CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE. THE BEST LEADERS PUT THEIR SUBORDINATES FIRST. IF YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR TROOPS, THEY'LL MOVE MOUNTAINS. STAY HUMBLE AND KEEP LEARNING. THE DAY YOU THINK YOU KNOW ENOUGH IS THE DAY YOU'RE FALLING BEHIND. DON'T FEAR FAILURE. BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO FAIL. BUT OWN IT, LEARN FROM IT, AND KEEP PUSHING THE ENVELOPE. REMEMBER WHY YOU WASTE YOUR HAND TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE ENEMIES OF WAR. ON HARD DAYS, GO BACK TO THE REASON YOU RAISED THAT RIGHT HAND. FOR ME, IT WAS THE BELIEF THAT THIS COUNTRY WAS WORTH DEFENDING, AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT. GENTLEMEN, YOU'RE STEPPING INTO A LONG AND HONORABLE TRADITION FROM THE EARLIEST DAYS OF OUR REPUBLIC. YOUNG AMERICANS, JUST LIKE YOURSELVES, HAVE ANSWERED THE CALL. SOME BECAME GENERALS OR ASTRONAUTS. OTHERS BECAME QUIET PROFESSIONALS WHO SIMPLY DID THEIR ORIGINAL DUTY TIME AND SERVED THEIR COUNTRY AND THEIR LOCAL CITIZENRY WITH EXCELLENCE. EVERY ONE OF THEM. TO THE PARENTS ONCE MORE, HUG YOUR SONS A LITTLE TIGHTER TODAY. THEY'RE ABOUT TO BEGIN ONE OF THE MOST DEMANDING JOURNEYS OF THEIR LIFE, BUT THEY'RE READY BECAUSE YOU HELPED THEM. JOHN MARK LUCAS, THE SKY'S NOT THE LIMIT, IT'S JUST THE BEGINNING. GOD THANK YOU, GOD BLESS YOU ALL, AND GOD BLESS YOU. WELL SAID, LET'S GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. THANK YOU, RICK. IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND JUST WAITING THERE FOR A MOMENT, WE HAVE PROCLAMATIONS FOR BOTH OF YOU, AND I'M GOING TO READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD, AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT THOSE TO YOU. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. RICK, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU IN THE PICTURE. AND AT THAT TIME, I'LL ALSO INVITE CISD SUPERINTENDENT TO. [00:10:01] DR. GLENN AND CISD TRUSTEE ERIC LEINMAN TO JOIN US FOR THAT PICTURE. BUT HERE'S THE PROCLAMATION FROM THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE TO BOTH OF YOU. IT IS WITH GREAT PRIDE AND ADMIRATION THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE EXCEPTIONAL COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION DEMONSTRATED BY THESE RECENT HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES TO OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO PURSUE A PATH OF SERVICE AND EXCELLENCE BY ENTERING A MILITARY ACADEMY, RESERVE OFFICER TRAINING CORPS, OR ENLISTMENT. AND THE ARMED FORCES. AND WHEREAS THESE FUTURE DEFENDERS HAVE DISPLAYED EXEMPLARY CHARACTER, DISCIPLINE, AND A PROFOUND SENSE OF DUTY, SETTING AN EXTRAORDINARY EXAMPLE FOR THEIR PEERS, AND INSPIRING ALL OF US WITH THEIR SELFLESS DEVOTION TO THE PRINCIPLES OF HONOR, INTEGRITY, AND SACRIFICE. AND WHEREAS THEIR DECISION TO SERVE OUR NATION IN THIS WAY DEMONSTRATES THEIR UNWAVERING DETERMINATION TO PURSUE A HIGHER PURPOSE. ONE THAT PROTECTS OUR FREEDOMS AND PROMOTES PEACE AND SECURITY AROUND THE WORLD. AND WHEREAS THESE REMARKABLE INDIVIDUALS HAVE EXHIBITED EXCEPTIONAL ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENTS, LEADERSHIP ABILITIES, AND PHYSICAL FITNESS, EXEMPLIFYING THE QUALITIES NECESSARY TO SUCCEED IN THE RIGOROUS ENVIRONMENT OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES AND REFLECTING THEIR COMMITMENT TO PERSONAL GROWTH AND EXCELLENCE. AND WHEREAS THESE STUDENTS HAVE DISPLAYED A PROFOUND RESPECT FOR THE VALUES UPON WHICH OUR NATION WAS FOUNDED OF LOYALTY, DUTY, HONOR, RESPECT, INTEGRITY, COURAGE, AND SERVICE THAT EPITOMIZE THE VERY BEST OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNTRY. NOW THEREFORE, I, MAYOR SEAN MCCASKILL, ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTHLAKE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 2, 2026, AS OUR SALUTE TO VETERAN FUTURE DEFENDERS DAY HERE IN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND I'LL ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALSO DR. GLENN AND MR. LANDON TO JOIN US AND MR. GRESH. PARENTS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME DOWN AND TAKE PICTURES AS WELL, YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME. [4. Alliance for Children Update ] NEXT UP IS WORK SESSION ITEM NUMBER FOUR. WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE FROM ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN, AND I BELIEVE VIRGINIA JACKSON, WHO'S THE RELATIONS COORDINATOR, IS HERE TO SPEAK AND GIVE US AN UPDATE. WELCOME BACK. HELLO. THANK YOU ALL. THANKS TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THE STAFF, AND THEN MAYBE MS. MCCASKILL AS WELL. [00:15:02] LIKE I SAID, MY NAME IS VIRGINIA JACKSON. I'M WITH ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN. I'M HERE TO KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT WE DO. AS EACH OF YOU HAVE A BLUE FOLDER IN FRONT OF YOU, IT HAS SOME PAPER IN THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE WORK WITH SOUTHLAKE SPECIFICALLY AND KIND OF THE NUMBERS OVER OUR PAST YEAR. SO IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, THEY'RE IN THERE. IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL. SO FIRST I WANT TO GO OVER OUR MISSION. OUR MISSION IS TO... TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN OF TARRANT COUNTY FROM CHILD ABUSE THROUGH TEEN INVESTIGATIONS, HEALING SERVICES, AND COMMUNITY EDUCATION. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH. FIRST ONE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS TEEN INVESTIGATIONS. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING WRITTEN INTO THE TEXAS FAMILY CODE. THIS IS WHERE WE GET ALL OF OUR LAW FROM. AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, AS TEXAS, WE HAVE DECIDED IS IMPORTANT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO. AGAIN, OUR FIRST... THE CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER WAS ACTUALLY SET IN ALABAMA AND THIS WAS DONE, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE 80S. TEXAS WANTED PEOPLE TO FIGURE IT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE BEFORE WE WANTED TO JUMP IN, THEN WE JUMPED IN AGAIN IN THE 90S. AND SO WE HAVE WRITTEN THIS INTO CODE. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS AT THIS TIME. AND IT IS EVER-GROWING, EVER-CHANGING, AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO UP TO DATE WITH THAT. WE WORK IN WHAT'S CALLED AN MDT, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS A MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM. THIS IS COMPOSED OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITHIN TARRANT COUNTY. THIS IS COMPOSED OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, OUR STAFF AT ALIGN FOR CHILDREN, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND CHILDREN SERVICES, SO THAT IS THAT CPS COMPONENT, AS WELL AS COOK CHILDREN'S AND JPS HEALTH NETWORK. WE ALSO WORK WITH TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCES. THIS IS A NEW ONE WE ARE ADDING IN. AND THEN WE WORK WITH OUR DA'S OFFICE DOWN IN DOWNTOWN. WE WORK IN THESE ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THESE CASES ARE COMPLEX. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS WITHIN CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATIONS. SO WE REFLECT THAT WITH HAVING MORE HANDS AT THE TABLE, MORE MINDS AT THE TABLE. WE KNOW THAT IF IT WAS JUST DONE WITH ONE PERSON, WE'D WANT TO HAVE EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE ON THERE. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COVERING ALL ASPECTS OF THIS CASE TO BETTER WORK FOR OUR CHILDREN AND ALSO TO BETTER WORK FOR THE FAMILIES THAT ARE INVOLVED. THE CASES THAT WE SPECIALIZE IN ARE SEVERE PHYSICAL ABUSE CASES, ANY CHILD FATALITY IN TARRANT COUNTY, CHILDREN WHO HAVE WITNESSED A VIOLENT CRIME, SEXUAL ABUSE. AND THEN CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING OR LABOR TRAFFICKING AS WELL. WE DO THIS IN THREE DIFFERENT CENTERS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT TARRANT COUNTY IS VERY LARGE, VERY VAST. IT'S ALSO GROWING EXPONENTIALLY. SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT CENTERS. WE HAVE TWO ARLINGTON CENTERS. THE BUILDING ON THE CORNER, THE ARLINGTON CLINICAL CENTER, WAS ACTUALLY OUR FIRST CENTER IN TARRANT COUNTY. SO THAT IS KIND OF OUR MOTHER BUILDING. THAT IS WHERE OUR ARLINGTON CLINICAL IS HOUSED RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S OUR TOWNHOUSE. AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ARLINGTON INVESTIGATIVE CENTER AND NORTHEAST CENTER THAT'S LOCATED IN HEARST AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE SERVE FOR SOUTHLAKE AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR FORT WORTH THAT'S LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH. WHAT WE PROVIDE AT THESE CENTERS IS INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT OUR HEALING SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE FAMILIES AS WELL AND BUT ONE OF THOSE INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE IS WHAT WE CALL A FORENSIC INTERVIEW. THESE INTERVIEWS ARE FOR CHILDREN AGES FROM WHEN THEY'RE VERBAL UNTIL THEY'RE 18. THESE ARE DONE IN NEUTRAL SETTINGS. AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT SOME CHILDREN CAN BE INTIMIDATED BY GOING TO MAYBE AN INTERROGATION SPACE. WE LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ARE ALSO NOT INTERROGATIONS. THESE ARE INTERVIEWS. AND THEY'RE ALSO CHILD-LED. OUR TRAINED CHILD FORENSIC INTERVIEWERS WILL KNOW HOW TO DO OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS, CHILD-LED QUESTIONS. AND SO IF AT ANY POINT THE CHILD DOES FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE OR DOESN'T WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING, THAT'S OKAY. WE RECOGNIZE THAT. IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT THESE. SO AT ANY POINT THEY NEED TO STEP OUT, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STEP OUT. AND THEY'RE ALSO ABLE TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING IN THERE. SO IF THEY WANT TO GO MORE IN DEPTH, THEY'RE PREPARED FOR THAT. BUT ALSO, AGAIN, THEY DON'T WANT TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO. AND WE DO THESE AS A WAY TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION IN A NEUTRAL SETTING. INSTEAD OF SAYING SOMETHING DID HAPPEN, WE JUST WANT TO KNOW THE INFORMATION. AND THESE ARE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CRUCIAL FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATIONS. BECAUSE IN THAT TEXAS FAMILY CODE, IT DOES SAY THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE NOT ABLE TO INTERVIEW CHILDREN ABOUT THE ABUSES. AND WE DO THIS SO THAT WE GET THAT PURE STATEMENT FROM THAT CHILD. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS DONE IN A MORE COMFORTING SETTING THAN WHAT ANYTHING COULD BE. SO WE HAVE, YOU SEE IN A SEPARATE ROOM, THE TV THAT'S KIND OF PLAYING WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THAT IS OUR OBSERVATION. AND HERE, THAT'S WHERE THE INVESTIGATOR SITS. SO EITHER THAT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE DO WORK WITH THE FBI ON SOME OCCASIONS OR CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES. THEY SIT IN THAT SEPARATE ROOM. THEY WATCH THE WHOLE INTERVIEW. IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS LIKE THAT THE INTERVIEWER HAS TO ASK YET OR THEY NEED MORE CLARIFICATION ON SOMETHING THE CHILD HAS SAID, THEY'RE ABLE [00:20:01] TO TALK WITH THE INTERVIEWER. YOU WERE TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME, OR CLARIFY. AND SO AGAIN, THESE ARE NON-LEADING. THESE ARE DONE BY TRAINED PROFESSIONALS, AND THEY'RE LED BY THE CHILD, BUT THEY'RE ALSO KIND OF CORRALLED BY THE INVESTIGATOR. THEN WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR HEALING SERVICES. SO WE HAVE TWO OTHER PROGRAMS. WE HAVE OUR ADVOCACY PROGRAM AS WELL AS OUR CLINICAL COUNSELING PROGRAM. OUR ADVOCACY IS OUR NEXT STEP FOR OUR FAMILIES. SO DURING A FORENSIC INTERVIEW, WHILE THE CHILD IS IN THAT ROOM WITH THE INTERVIEWER, THE PARENTS ARE MEETING WITH ONE OF OUR FAMILY ADVOCATES. EVERY FAMILY THAT COMES INTO OUR CENTER HAS AN ASSIGNED FAMILY ADVOCATE. THESE ADVOCACY SERVICES ARE IN A BOOKLET THAT WE PROVIDE TO EVERY FAMILY THAT THEY COME IN SO THAT THEY CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO THEM, BUT ALSO WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN TEXAS. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT SERVICES HERE, SO WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THOSE, AND WE WANT TO GIVE THOSE TO THE FAMILY SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT ELSE WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. AND DURING THAT TIME, OUR ADVOCATE WILL DO A REFERRAL TO COUNSELING SERVICES IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE CHILD. AND THESE ARE DONE IN OUR CENTER AS WELL. AND THESE ARE THROUGH TRAINED TRAUMA COUNSELORS WHO KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE ALL THE COMPLEXITIES OF TRAUMA WITH THESE CHILDREN TO HELP THEM HEAL AND GROW SO THAT THEY CAN BE MORE PRODUCTIVE AFTER THESE INVESTIGATIONS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT NOT ONLY DOES CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATIONS AFFECT THE CHILD, IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE FAMILY UNIT. WE DO THIS BY OFFERING ALSO COUNSELING FOR OUR PARENTS. SO THIS IS ALSO DONE IN-HOUSE. WE HAVE A PARENT COUNSELING GROUP THAT MEETS ONCE A WEEK. THEY'RE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT STRESSORS THEY MAY BE FEELING OR GET MORE EDUCATION ON INTERNET SAFETY OR BODY SAFETY OR HOW TO TALK TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT WHAT IS AN INVESTIGATION OF WHAT IS GOING ON. WE'RE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THIS THROUGH THE SUPPORT OF THE CITIES THAT WE SERVE. WE KNOW THAT YOU ALL GIVE US A NICE PORTION EVERY YEAR THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THESE SERVICES. COMPLETELY FREE TO FAMILIES. THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF AND WE THANK YOU GUYS DEEPLY FOR THAT. WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT COUNSELING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ATTAINABLE BY EVERYONE. THERE IS A FINANCIAL BURDEN MOST TIMES WHEN WE ARE SEEKING THOSE COUNSELING SERVICES AND SO WE ARE ABLE TO REMOVE THAT BARRIER THROUGH YOUR SUPPORT TO PROVIDE THESE FAMILIES WITH HEALING SERVICES. A COUPLE OTHER HEALING SERVICES WE PROVIDE THAT ARE RUN THROUGH BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE SOMETHING WE LIKE TO CALL OUR MAKEOVER PROJECT. IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN EXTREME HOME MAKEOVER, WE DO A VERY SMALL VERSION OF THAT. SO IF NEEDED, SAY AN ABUSE OCCURRED IN A CHILD'S ROOM, AND MAYBE THE CHILD MAY BE EXPERIENCING SOME TRAUMA SYMPTOMS, SUCH AS THEY'RE HAVING NIGHTMARES, JUST COMPLETELY AVOID THAT ROOM AT ALL COSTS. WE ARE ABLE TO GO IN AND REDECORATE THAT CHILD'S ROOM, MAYBE GET A NEW BED, GET NEW BEDDING, GET CURTAINS, PAINT THE ROOM. ADD NEW DECORATIONS, ANYTHING TO MAKE THE CHILD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REST IN. WE CAN DO THIS IN OTHER AREAS OF THE HOME. WE'VE DONE THEM IN LIVING ROOMS, KITCHENS, PLAYROOMS, JUST REALLY ABOUT ANYWHERE WE CAN DO A MAKEOVER PROJECT. SO THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE FREE AT COST THROUGH VOLUNTEER SERVICES AND ALSO THROUGH CITY DONATIONS. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE. WE ALSO CAN PROVIDE WHAT'S CALLED A NEXT STEP PROGRAM. SO THESE ARE WITH FAMILIES WHO MAYBE THIS ABUSE OCCURRED AND IT'S REMOVED SOMEONE FROM THE FAMILY UNIT. AND THIS FAMILY IS TRYING TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DYNAMIC LOOKS LIKE AFTER THAT. KIND OF HOW DO WE INTERACT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL THESE MEMORIES WITH THIS PERSON AND NOW THEY'RE NOT HERE. HOW DO WE RECONCILE THAT? SO THE NEXT STEPS PROGRAM IS ABLE TO CREATE NEW MEMORIES WITH THIS AND CREATE POSITIVE MEMORIES. SO WE'VE SENT PEOPLE TO THE RANGER SCENE, WE'VE GIVEN THEM MEALS, WE'VE GONE TO ICE SKATING. WE SAW AND I KNOW WE GAVE ONE KID KARATE LESSONS. LIKE THEY WANTED TO LEARN HOW TO DO KARATE BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM. SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO ANY OF THESE. WE ALSO HELP KIDS GET THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN GETTING. WE'RE ABLE TO SEND THEM TO THE MOVIES, SEND THEM TO SIX FLAGS FOR THE DAY IF WE NEED TO GO. SO THE FAMILY ADVOCATES WILL WORK WITH THAT FAMILY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD FIT BEST WITH THEM, WHAT WOULD GIVE THEM A MORE POSITIVE EXPERIENCE, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE REFERRALS FOR THOSE AS WELL. AND LAST ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. FOR OUR HEALING SERVICES, WE ALSO DO WHAT WE CALL CAMP BLUE. WE RUN THIS CAMP TWO TIMES IN THE YEAR. WE RUN ONE AT SPRING BREAK AND THEN ONE IN THE SUMMER WHEN THE KIDS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL. THIS IS FOR CHILDREN WHO ARE COMPLETING OUR COUNSELING SERVICES. SO EITHER THEY'RE CLOSE TO COMPLETING OR THEY JUST HAVE COMPLETED OUR SERVICES. AND THIS IS A TIME FOR THEM TO CELEBRATE THEIR GROWTH, CELEBRATE ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH OUR SERVICES. THIS YEAR, THEY'RE COMING UP. IT'S IN JULY. THEY ARE GOING TO FOSSIL RIM ONE DAY I KNOW. THEY GO TO MAIN EVENT. THEY DO ALL THESE FUN THINGS. I'M LIKE THAT'S A LOT. BUT THE KIDS LOVE IT. THEY HAVE A GREAT TIME. WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS COME OUT SO THAT THEY CAN GET POSITIVE EXPERIENCES WITH BOTH GROUPS. [00:25:01] WE KNOW THAT IF YOU GO TO THE MAIN EVENT, YOU GO. THROUGH AN INVESTIGATION, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE INTIMIDATED BY THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. AND SO WE WANT TO CREATE THESE POSITIVE EXPERIENCES AROUND EVERY ASPECT OF THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT CHILDREN TO HAVE THAT FEAR. WE WANT THEM TO FEEL EMPOWERED AND ALSO FEEL PROTECTED BY WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO IN 2025, WE HAD JUST OVER 04,500, ALMOST 4,600 CHILDREN WHO WERE CONFIRMED VICTIMS OF ABUSE. SO THIS DOESN'T MEAN... THAT WE ONLY HAD 4,600 REPORTS IN TARRANT COUNTY. THIS MEANS THAT WE HAD 4,600 CHILDREN WHO EITHER MADE CONFIRMED OUTCRIES, WHICH IS THEY MADE THE INITIAL OUTCRY, AND THEN THEY TALKED TO ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL WHERE THEY MADE ANOTHER OUTCRY. AND THEN THROUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WORK ALL CHILD ABUSE CASES AT ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN. SO WE DID HAVE JUST, WELL, WE HAD ALMOST 2,300 CLIENTS SERVED LAST YEAR AT ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN. AND SO AS YOU SEE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THOSE NUMBERS, BUT THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE WE DON'T SERVE EVERY CHILD ABUSE CASE. SO THESE COULD BE CASES LIKE OUR DRUG CASES WHERE IT'S LIKE THERE'S DRUG HARM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ONES THAT WE TYPICALLY WORK. SO YEAH, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE. THIS IS HOW OUR MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM WORKS. I KNOW IT'S GOT A LOT OF WORDS ON THERE SO DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE AND READ IT. BUT THIS JUST KIND OF WORKS HOW THE WEB WORKS, HOW WE ALL WORK TOGETHER. AND SO EITHER A REPORT IS CALLED INTO 911 OR THE TEXAS CHILD ABUSE HOTLINE. THAT'S GENERALLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE OUR CASES, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AFTER THAT. THIS WEB RIGHT HERE IS WHERE MY POSITION COMES IN. I WORK KIND OF AT THE TOP OF THAT WEB. I SEE ALL THE CASES THAT COME IN FOR TARRANT COUNTY, AND WE DECIDE WHAT WE WORK AND WHAT WE NEED TO FORWARD ON TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL TO GET THEIR INVOLVEMENT. AND THEN OUR LAST PIECE OF OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY EDUCATION AS WELL. AND SO WE PROVIDE TONS OF COMMUNITY EDUCATION. WE GO TO ALL THE SCHOOLS, NOT ALL THE SCHOOLS, BUT WE GO TO MOST OF THE SCHOOLS IN TARRANT COUNTY. AND SO WE'RE TALKING TO KIDS CONSTANTLY. WE'RE GOING INTO SCHOOLS, WE'RE TALKING TO THEM. AND WE'VE DONE PREVENTION ON, YOU KNOW, INTERNET SAFETY OR BODY SAFETY. WE TALK ABOUT WHO ARE SAFE PEOPLE TO TALK TO ABOUT WHAT MAY BE HAPPENING. AND WE HAVE CAPABLE CLASSES ON MENTAL HEALTH FOR CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY ARE STRUGGLING WITH SOMETHING THAT WE WANT THEM TO TALK ABOUT IT TO A PROFESSIONAL. WE ALSO TALK TO PROFESSIONALS, SO THIS COULD BE ANYONE IN TARRANT COUNTY. WE GIVE A LOT OF TRAININGS FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PARTNERS AT OUR CENTER AND FOR WORK. SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE PROFESSIONAL TRAININGS THAT WE'RE GROWING AND HONING OUR OWN INVESTIGATORS TO MAKE THEM STRONGER AND MORE COMPETENT IN WHAT WE'RE DOING TOGETHER. WE ALSO GIVE EDUCATION TO OUR PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS. SO LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THROUGH COUNSELING WE DO THAT, BUT WE ALSO DO THIS SEPARATELY. WE DO SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONLINE TRAININGS FOR OUR PARENTS IF THEY WANT MORE INFORMATION. ABOUT HOW TO TALK TO THEIR KIDS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON OR HOW TO PREVENT SOMETHING FROM HAPPENING. WE DO HAVE THOSE ALL LINKED ON OUR WEBSITE, SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE, WE HAVE THAT THERE AS WELL. BUT YEAH, SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN OR ANY CLARIFIED QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, VIRGINIA. THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR OVERVIEW OF ALLIANCE FOR CHILDREN, UPDATE ON ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU'RE DOING IN SOUTH LAKE AND IN TARRANT COUNTY. WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ARE DIFFICULT TOPICS TO TALK ABOUT, BUT WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR STEPPING INTO THAT SPACE. AND I THINK THE WORD YOU USED, CRUCIAL, CRUCIAL SERVICES THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING TO CHILDREN AND FAMILIES HERE LOCALLY, AND IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR VIRGINIA? ALL RIGHT. CAN WE GET A PICTURE WITH YOU, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT? YES. ALL RIGHT. I'LL INVITE COUNSEL TO COME DOWN IN FRONT OF THE DAIS, AND WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [5. Presentation from the Leadership Southlake Class ] THIS WORK SESSION, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE SOUTHLAKE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LEADERSHIP SOUTHLAKE CLASS. [00:30:02] WHO GRADUATED LAST WEEK AND COMPLETED THEIR PROGRAM. I'M GOING TO INVITE CHUCK SMITH AND EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM TO TELL US WHAT YOU'VE BEEN UP TO AND HOW SUCCESSFUL, REALLY SUCCESSFUL THIS PROJECT WAS. SO CHUCK, IT'S ALL YOURS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. WE'VE BEEN SO HONORED TO BE PART OF THIS LEADERSHIP PROGRAM. I WANT TO JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM ITSELF TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT IT IS. SPEND SOME TIME TALKING THROUGH THIS VERY SPECIAL PROJECT THAT WE JUST FINISHED UP. THE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM IS A YEAR-LONG PROGRAM THAT'S REALLY A SERIES OF ORCHESTRATED EVENTS THAT EACH OF US GET TO GO THROUGH OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. SO OVER THE COURSE OF 12 MONTHS WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET WITH THE FIRE CHIEF, WE MEET WITH THE POLICE CHIEF, WE WENT TO KING'S UNIVERSITY. WE STARTED OFF WITH THE ROPES COURSE, SO WE REALLY FOCUSED ON TEAM BUILDING AND BONDING AS A TEAM OURSELVES. WE WENT THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS A DAY TO REALLY SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN SOUTHLAKE AND HOW IT WAS GROWING AND HOW IT'S BEING... MODERATED, WE WENT TO BAYLOR SCOTT & WHITE IN GRAPEVINE AND GOT A BEHIND THE SCENES TOUR OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE HEALTHCARE SPACE. WE DID A HALF DAY TOUR OF THE DFW AIRPORT TO KIND OF GET A BROADER PERSPECTIVE OF THE REGION AND KIND OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT AREA. AND THEN WE SPENT A DAY AT THE STATE CAPITOL WHERE THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO DOWN AND REALLY SEE KIND OF WHAT THE STATE ENVIRONMENT LOOKS LIKE. SO IT WAS OVERALL, IT WAS LIKE I SAID, A 12-MONTH PROGRAM THAT STARTED IN JULY, JUST GRADUATED LAST WEEK. WE'VE BEEN TOOLED UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF CRYSTAL DUBOWSKI AND BILL TATE, WHO'VE BEEN ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING AND KIND OF SEEING US THROUGH, NURTURING US THROUGH THIS PROGRAM THE WHOLE TIME, AND REALLY INSTRUMENTAL THROUGH THE WHOLE SOUTHLAKE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THE PROGRAM ALSO INCLUDES... A CORE PROJECT, AND THIS PROJECT REALLY KIND OF RUNS THE COURSE OF THIS 12 MONTHS. WE SPEND THE FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY, REALLY SOLICITING IDEAS AND ADVICE FOR DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROJECTS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE ON. MANY OF YOU PROBABLY HAD CALLS FROM PARTICIPANTS WHO WERE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE ON. WE RAN ACROSS THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH THE DRAGON EXCHANGE MOBILE TRAILER. PROGRAM REALLY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CAROL ISD SPECIAL EDUCATION DEPARTMENT. IT WAS A PROJECT THAT WE IMMEDIATELY KNEW WAS THE RIGHT PROJECT FOR US. OF ALL THAT WE HAD TO CHOOSE FROM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE JUST ABLE TO REALLY GET BEHIND. WE WORKED WITH THEM TO REALLY DESIGN WHAT A MOBILE EXPERIENCE WOULD LOOK LIKE. THE IDEA IS REALLY TO PROVIDE A RETAIL EXPERIENCE FOR THE STUDENTS THAT NEEDED TO HAVE SOME REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE WITH RETAIL, WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE, WITH INVENTORY MANAGEMENT, AND SET UP A MOBILE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO USE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND SELL RETAIL MERCHANDISE. AND SO WE PACKAGED UP A PROPOSAL AROUND THIS PROJECT, AGAIN, UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED, AND THEN WE WENT SOLICITING SPONSORSHIP ACROSS THE COMMUNITY, AND I CAN TELL YOU I'M NOT. ASKED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SPONSOR THINGS IN THE PAST, BUT THIS ONE WAS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY JUST RALLIED BEHIND INSTANTLY. WE HAD SO MANY SUPPORTERS, THERE'S A LIST THERE, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. BUT IT WAS, I MEAN I DON'T WANT TO SAY EASY TO RAISE MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT IT WAS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE AND CERTAINLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT IN A POSITIVE WAY THE CHILDREN OF THE COMMUNITY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT... THE COMMUNITY JUST GOT RIGHT BEHIND. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY THE TRAILER, TO WRAP IT AND MAKE IT LOOK PROFESSIONAL. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT RACKS ON THE INSIDE OF IT FOR RETAIL STORAGE. AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO CREATE A CASH DONATION OF ABOUT $5,000 IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE TRAILER. SO THE COMMUNITY OUT... THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT HAS JUST BEEN REMARKABLE. I GUESS ON THE SPONSORSHIP, [00:35:01] JUST... ONE MORE POINT, I THINK THE LOGOS ARE HERE AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT JUST FOR ME AS A PARTICIPANT IN THE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COME OUT LIKE IT DID IN SUPPORT OF THESE PROGRAMS. THE CHAMBER ASKS A LOT OF THE LOCAL BUSINESS LEADER IN TERMS OF SPONSORSHIP TO GET ON BOARD WITH WHAT WE WERE DOING TO RAISE THE KIND OF MONEY TO PURCHASE THE TRAILER AND THEN TO PROVIDE THE DONATIONS THAT REALLY SET THIS. PROJECT TO BE SUCCESSFUL IS SOMETHING THAT I'M SUPER PROUD OF BEING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO I GUESS, I MEAN, UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS, THAT'S KIND OF THE OVERVIEW. WELL, THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THAT GREAT PRESENTATION. WHAT A GREAT IDEA. AND KUDOS TO YOU ALL, INCLUDING CRYSTAL AND BILL AS THE LEADERS, TO MAKE THE DREAM A REALITY. VERY IMPRESSIVE. I GOT TO SEE IT LAST THURSDAY AT THE CHAMBER LUNCHEON IN PERSON. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND THE ENTIRE LEADERSHIP CLASS. I KNOW EVERYONE'S BUSY. AND HAS SO MANY THINGS GOING ON, BUT FOR YOU ALL TO DEDICATE THIS TIME AND TAKE ON THIS TASK AND MAKE IT HAPPEN IS REALLY COMMENDABLE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP STAFF? GO AHEAD, FRANCES. LIKE THE MAYOR, I WAS ABLE TO SEE THIS TRAILER AT LUNCH THE OTHER DAY. I DON'T THINK THE PICTURE DOES IT JUSTICE. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL-LOOKING TRAILER, AND IT'S SO PROFESSIONAL. THE KIDS ARE GOING TO LOVE WORKING OUT OF THAT SPACE, AND SO I PASS OFF TO YOU. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL. YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF WE COULD BRING EVERYONE DOWN TO GET A PICTURE, AND THAT INCLUDES CRYSTAL AND BILL. YOU'RE THE LEADERS OF THE TEAM, AND WE'LL GET A PICTURE. I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO STAND UP HERE. PILAR, DO YOU THINK, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, DO YOU WANT US UP ON THE DAIS, OR DO YOU THINK WE CAN GET DOWN THERE WITH EVERYONE FROM THE CLASS? ALL RIGHT, JOIN YOU DOWN THERE. [6. Discuss all items on tonight's agenda. No action will be taken and each item will be considered during the Regular Session.] NEXT UP IS WORK SESSION ITEM NUMBER SIX. THAT'S OUR CONSENT AGENDA. I WILL TURN THAT OVER TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM AUSTIN REYNOLDS TO LEAD US THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE INCLUDED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION. THAT'S 4A, APPROVED MINUTES FROM THE MAY 19, 2020-26 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 4B, APPROVED SWB 26-2003, VARIANCE TO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE NUMBER 483. AS AMENDED SECTION 5.06 REQUIRING A MINIMUM FIVE FOOT WIDE RESIDENTIAL SIDEWALK ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGE OF 1234 TIMBERLINE COURT. 4C APPROVE SWB 260004 VARIANCE TO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE NUMBER 483 AS AMENDED SECTION 5.06 REQUIRING A MINIMUM FIVE FOOT WIDE RESIDENTIAL SIDEWALK ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGE OF 1088 WEST PARK CIRCLE. 4D APPROVE AN AMENDED 380 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF [00:40:02] SOUTHLAKE AND SR8. HOSPITALITY SOUTHLAKE INVESTMENTS LLC, A TEXAS LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY, CORPORATION. FOR E, APPROVE AN AMENDED 380 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE AND NL SOUTHLAKE LLC, A TEXAS LIMITED LIABILITY CORPORATION. FOR F, APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 1300, FIRST READING, APPOINTING CAROL MONTGOMERY AS THE JUDGE OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE. 4G, APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-021, AMENDING THE CITY FEE SCHEDULE. 4H, EXCUSE THE ABSENCE OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BOARD GUNTER FROM THE MAY 21, 2026 REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. AND ITEM 6G, TABLING AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT TO THE JUNE 16, 2026 MEETING, RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-019, ZA 26-0028. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL SCHOOL FOR CREATURE OUTLAWS, ATHLETICS ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 09, BLOCK C, COMMERCE BUSINESS PARK ADDITION AND LOCATED AT 580 COMMERCE STREET SUITE, 160 OR 170. AND LASTLY, ITEM 6I, RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-020, ZA 26-0032, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN INDOOR GOLF DRIVING RANGE AND COMMERCIAL SCHOOL FOR TEE BOX. ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 4R1, LEGENDS AT SOUTHLAKE AND LOCATED AT 2320 DEAN WAY, SUITE 160. THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN THIS REPORT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THAT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION OR THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH ANY STAFF MEMBER REGARDING ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? IS THAT A QUICK QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR KILO FOR CONSENT? AGENDA ITEMS 4B AND 4C REGARDING THE SIDEWALK VARIANCES. I JUST WANTED TO RECONFIRM BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION EARLIER THAT BASED ON PRIOR APPROVALS FOR SIDEWALK VARIANCES AND OTHER LOTS THAT IF WE DON'T FORESEE SIDEWALKS THAT WE TYPICALLY APPROVE THEM. AND BEFORE WE USED TO HAVE EXEMPTIONS WITHIN THAT BASICALLY SAID IF YOU BASICALLY SATISFY THE NEEDS FOR CERTAIN USES YOU DON'T NEED THE SIDEWALK, YOU DON'T NEED THAT VARIANCE APPROVED. YES, JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION, THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE DID PREVIOUSLY INCLUDE AN EXEMPTION FOR LOTS THAT SPECIFICALLY FELL IN THIS CATEGORY AS FAR AS THE PLATTING TYPE THAT WAS BEING REQUESTED AND THEN NOT HAVING SIDEWALKS ADJACENT TO THEM ALL. BEING WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF A SCHOOL ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD, THAT EXEMPTION WAS MOVED. REMOVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO. AND AS SOME OF THESE SINGLE TRACTS HAVE COME FORWARD WITH SINGLE LOT FLATS, THEY'RE REQUIRED WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION TO PUT IN PLACE A SIDEWALK WITHOUT THAT EXEMPTION. AND SEVERAL OWNERS IN THIS SITUATION, GIVEN THE STREET CHARACTER FOR WHICH THE TRACT IS LOCATED, HAVE REQUESTED VARIANCES FOR THAT. THE TWO PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE IN GENERAL HAD VARIANCES REQUESTED AND JUST GIVEN THE RURAL CROSS-SECTION WITH BAR DITCH AND LOW TRAFFIC CHARACTERISTICS OF THE STREET, THESE VARIANCES HAVE TYPICALLY BEEN GRANTED. PERFECT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY. I'M WONDERING IF IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR COUNCIL AND LATER ON FOR US TO... WE LOOK AT THE VERBAGE AND LOOK AT THE EXEMPTION AND SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO TAKE IT BACK IN AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT DURING THE REGULAR SESSION? ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, AND WE'LL VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA [1. Call to order. ] DURING THE REGULAR SESSION. NEXT, I WILL CALL THE REGULAR [2.A. Executive Session] SESSION TO ORDER, AND THE FIRST ITEM IN THE REGULAR SESSION IS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. AS MAYOR, I HEREBY ADVISE YOU THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.071, TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY, AND SECTION 551.087 TO DELIBERATE REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS. AND I'LL CHECK WITH OUR CITY MANAGER ABOUT HOW LONG WE'LL BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. PROBABLY ABOUT AN HOUR, SO WE'LL BE BACK OUT HERE AT 7.15. WE'LL SEE YOU THEN. ALL RIGHT, I'LL CALL OUR REGULAR MEETING BACK TO ORDER. IS THERE ANY ACTION NECESSARY FOLLOWING OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION? [3.A. Mayor’s Report ] NO, MAYOR. THANK YOU, GUYS. NEXT UP IS ITEM 3A, THE MAYOR'S REPORT. JUST TWO QUICK NOTES. [00:45:01] WE RECEIVED A REALLY WONDERFUL LETTER FROM A NONRESIDENT REGARDING AN ACCIDENT THEY HAD IN MAY, AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO ALL THE DETAILS. THANKFULLY, EVERYONE'S OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS NONRESIDENT FROM A NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY TOOK THE TIME TO SEND US A REALLY HEARTWARMING LETTER THANKING OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS FOR THEIR PROFESSIONALISM, THEIR CARE, THEIR COMPASSION DURING, YOU KNOW, A TERRIBLE MOMENT. AND, AGAIN, THANKFULLY EVERYONE'S OKAY, BUT IT WAS REALLY VERY NICE. I KNOW CHIEF CASEY AND CHIEF WILSON HAD RECEIVED THAT LETTER THANKING THE POLICE AND FIRE PERSONNEL WHO WERE ON SITE THAT DAY. SO I'M NOT GOING TO NAME THE BUT THANK YOU TO THAT PERSON WHO REACHED OUT TO OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND SHARED THEIR GRATITUDE. AND THANK YOU TO BOTH OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS FOR, AGAIN, AND AS ALWAYS, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. APPRECIATE THAT. ALSO, A NOTE ABOUT OUR INITIATIVE FOR 2026 FOR OUR 70TH BIRTHDAY WITH OUR 2026 TREES. WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO PLANTING 2026 TREES HERE THIS YEAR TO CELEBRATE OUR 70TH BIRTHDAY. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO SOME OF THE SPONSORS AND DONORS WHO ARE MAKING THAT POSSIBLE. OBVIOUSLY, BARTLETT TREE EXPERTS, WHO SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN AT THE SPRING FESTIVAL IN ARLINGTON SQUARE, WERE HANDING OUT THE SAPLINGS TO THE FOLKS. THEY'LL BE BACK DOING THAT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR AT CERTAIN EVENTS, INCLUDING STARS AND STRIPES. BUT ALSO, A SHOUT OUT TO THE MUNLIN FAMILY, WHO'S DONATED A SIZABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TOWARDS TO PURCHASE TREES TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS PROGRAM. VARIOUS OTHER CORPORATE PARTNERS, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS, TXU ENERGY. AMONG OTHERS, I'M SURE I'M LEAVING SOME OUT, BUT THANK YOU TO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE, FAMILIES, AND CORPORATE PARTNERS WHO ARE HELPING US WITH THE 2,026 TREES THAT WE'RE PLANTING THIS YEAR. WE'RE ALSO PARTNERING WITH CAROL ISD AFTER THE SUMMER BREAK, OF COURSE, THAT WILL BE DONATING AND CONTRIBUTING TREES TO EVERY CAROL ISD CAMPUS HERE LATER THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S IT FOR THE MAYOR'S REPORT. NEXT UP IS 3B, THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CLEAN [CONSENT AGENDA] FOR YOU NOW, MAYOR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE DISCUSSED THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS DURING THE WORK SESSION. COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE WE CALL FOR A MOTION? ALL RIGHT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM AUSTIN REYNOLDS WILL TAKE THAT, AND WE'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 4A THROUGH 4H, INCLUDING TABLING ITEM 6G AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT TO THE JUNE 16, 2026 MEETING. AND MOVING ITEM 6I, WHICH HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT FROM THE REGULAR AGENDA TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. [5. Public Forum.] AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0. THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 5, THE PUBLIC FORUM. THE PUBLIC FORUM IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO BRING FORWARD ITEMS THAT ARE NOT. ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA, YOU'RE GOING TO BE WELCOME TO COME DOWN HERE AND SPEAK. I THINK WE HAVE SOME COMMENT CARDS. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC FORUM. FIRST UP OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT FORUMS, WE HAVE KATHY STUCKEL AT 445 EAST BOB JONES WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING THE CARILLON DEVELOPMENT. KATHY? NO? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL HOLD THAT CARD AND NOTE. THE CARD WAS IN THE RECORD. NEXT UP IS SEAN MACKEY AT 1624 PHEASANT LANE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE, WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING BICENTENNIAL PARK BASEBALL FIELDS. YES, SIR. COME ON DOWN. YES, WE'LL START THAT. GREEN MEANS GO. YELLOW MEANS YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. YELLOW MEANS ONE MORE MINUTE. RED MEANS STOP. AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, EVEN THOUGH I JUST DID IT, IF YOU CAN DO THAT, THEN WE'LL START YOUR THREE MINUTES. SEAN MACKEY, 1624 BEZARD LANE, SOUTHLAKE. SO, VERY, VERY SIMPLE. LAST THURSDAY, MY SON ASKED ME, HEY, DAD, COULD WE GO PLAY SOME BASEBALL BY THE STADIUM? I SAID, WELL, LET ME GO TALK TO DYB AND SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE. THEY SAID IT WAS PERFECTLY FINE. WE WENT OUT THERE AND PLAYED ON THE FIELD THAT THEY SAID WAS AVAILABLE AND IMMEDIATELY GOT KICKED OFF BY THE CITY. AND SO, ALL I'M ASKING IS RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR... SOMEONE TO POTENTIALLY HAVE A SOLUTION FOR A KID WHO WANTS TO GO PLAY BASEBALL WITH HIS FRIENDS AT THESE BEAUTIFUL FIELDS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PROVIDED FOR THESE CITIZENS OF OUR CITY. IF THERE'S ANY WAY AT ALL THAT IN THAT SITUATION, ALL I WAS TOLD IS IT HAS TO BE A WEEK NOTICE, A WEEK IN ADVANCE YOU HAVE TO PLAN THIS OUT, AND THAT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE FOR A KIDDO WHO WANTS TO RIDE A BIKE DOWN THE STREET AND GO PLAY BASEBALL WITH HIS FRIENDS. SO, GENUINELY, THAT IS THE TOTAL TOPIC. [00:50:01] FORTUNATELY, MY WIFE REACHED OUT TO A COUPLE OF MEMBERS HERE. MR. TAGGART, I GENUINELY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING HER PHONE CALL AND SPEAKING WITH US ABOUT POSSIBILITIES AND OPTIONS, BUT THAT'S ALL WE'RE REALLY GENUINELY ASKING IS HOW CAN A KIDDO WHO WANTS TO RIDE A BIKE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET HE'LL PLAY BASEBALL WITH HIS FRIENDS AND HAVE SOME FUN. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON MY AGENDA FOR TODAY. I APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK. I KNOW WE TYPICALLY DON'T ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION, BUT I AM AWARE OF THIS ISSUE THAT YOU HAD LAST WEEK. AND, DIRECTOR MILLER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND MAYBE ADDRESS THAT, SORT OF HOW WE OPERATE WITH THE FIELD USE AGREEMENTS WITH BASEBALL AND BICENTENNIAL AND WHAT THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE AS FAR AS FIELDS THAT ARE NOT GATED AND LOCKED. ALSO OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO USE, SAY, THE TURF, THE NEW TURF FIELD, HOW THEY CAN GO ABOUT DOING THAT. SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS OF ALL AGES TO USE THOSE. SO, DIRECTOR MILLER. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, AND THANK YOU, MR. MACKEY, FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL. SO WE DO HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR FIELD USE ACROSS THE CITY, STARTING WITH KIND OF FIRST-COME, FIRST-SERVED USE, WHICH IS ON. GATED FIELDS, SO THAT WOULD BE WHETHER BACK STOPS AT BICENTENNIAL QUALITY PARK, FIELD 11 AT BICENTENNIAL PARK, AND THEN WE DO HAVE, CURRENTLY WITHIN OUR SYSTEM, WE HAVE THE USE OF OUR FUA PARTNERS, BUT WE ALSO USE FOR THE EXACT SITUATION THAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED. OUR FAMILY WANTS TO GO, YOU KNOW, CHECK AND FLY BALLS, HIT SOME BASEBALLS, PLAY ON THIS SOCCER FIELD. THAT IS CALLED NON-ORGANIZED USE, WHICH HAS A SMALL RESERVATION FEE, AND WE DO HAVE A... TASK FORCE COMPLETED, WHICH WILL PROVIDE SOME ACCESS FOR WORK. ONE OF THE THINGS, AS I'VE BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS TEAM, IS AS WE LOOK AT THE ORGANIZED USE PIECE, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE REVIEWING OUR PROCEDURES FOR HOW WE ALLOW FAMILY USE, JUST NON-ORGANIZED USE, AND LOOKING AT WAYS TO MAKE IT EASIER, MORE ACCESSIBLE IN TERMS OF INFORMATION, LOOKING AT THE TIME FRAMES, DOES SEVEN DAYS MAKE SENSE, DOES A SMALLER TIME MAKE SENSE. SO THEN NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THOSE THREE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE OPTIONS, BUT SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THAT, DIRECTOR MILLER. AND MR. MACKEY, WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE FROM OUR STAFF BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WE'LL PUBLICIZE THAT GENERALLY SO EVERYONE KNOWS KIND OF HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT TYPE OF REQUEST TO USE, SAY, THE TURF FIELDS OR WHATEVER GOING FORWARD. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. NEXT UP FOR PUBLIC FORUM, WE HAVE DANA DABBS, 445 EAST BOB JONES, WISHING TO SPEAK REGARDING THE CARILLON DEVELOPMENT. DANA DABBS, OKAY, WE'LL NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK DURING OUR PUBLIC FORUM ON AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA? YES, COME ON DOWN. I KNOW YOUR NAME, BUT IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE THREE MINUTES. AGAIN, GREEN MEANS GO, YELLOW LIGHT MEANS ONE MORE MINUTE, AND RED MEANS IF YOU COULD WRAP IT UP. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MY NAME IS MARK GRIFFIN. I LIVE AT 803 POTOMAC PLACE, SOUTH LAKE, TEXAS. I'D LIKE TO DIRECT MY COMMENTS TO THE VERY NUMEROUS DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING. I'M NOT ANY INDIVIDUAL AGENDA. I HAVE SEVERAL ON MY MIND. I THINK IT'S CLEAR FROM THE LAST SESSION THAT WE THINK WE ARE AT RISK OF SEVERE HOMEOWNER AND CITY PROPERTY DAMAGE. IN FACT, WE ARE PROBABLY... I DO BELIEVE FURTHER THAT AFTER REVIEWING THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT, THE RECOMMENDATION FIRST IS WITHIN THE REGULATIONS IT TALKS ABOUT HAVING AN INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT. THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT AS DEFINED WITHIN THE STUDIO REGULATIONS UNDER 9.5 SECTION 541. THE 1-543, THE INDEPENDENCE DEFINITION SAYS THAT THE INDEPENDENT LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER CANNOT BE AFFILIATED WITH THE CITY. THAT IS AN INCOMPLETE DEFINITION. INDEPENDENCE, AS IT RELATES TO SUCH A STUDY, SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE [00:55:02] INDEPENDENCE OF THE DEVELOPER. I THINK THE INDEPENDENCE DEFINITION NEEDS TO BE ENHANCED, AND I REFER TO THE AICPA DEFINITION. IT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD DEFINITION THAT WAS ENHANCED AFTER ENRON, BUT THE ENRON DOCUMENT WAS ENHANCED FURTHER. AFTER THE MELTDOWN IN 2009, AND IT COVERS FOUR AREAS OF INDEPENDENCE THAT I THINK WOULD REALLY BE A POSITIVE THING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO CONSIDER. FINANCIAL, BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS, SERVICE CONFLICTS, AND EMPLOYMENT RELATIONSHIPS. ALL OF THOSE SHOULD BE COVERED IN THE DEFINITION. SECOND, THE REGULATIONS ARE SILENT ON CITIZEN OVERSIGHT AS IT RELATES TO THOSE ASSESSMENT STUDIES. WE SHOULD HAVE A CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT STEP IN THERE TO LOOK AT THOSE STUDIES BEFORE THEY'RE APPROVED. AND THEN THIRD, THE REGULATIONS ARE SILENT ON FUNDING ENFORCEMENT. I KNOW THE REGULATIONS THAT RECENTLY ADDED A MAINTENANCE DEFINITION THAT INCLUDED SOME COMPLIANCE, BUT IT DID NOT INCLUDE FUNDING ENFORCEMENT. I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS REALLY MATTER. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 20 YEARS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY, VERY, VERY HAPPY HERE, AND I'VE RAISED MY FAMILY HERE. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THIS A STRONGER SET OF REGULATIONS AS A PLACE OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT ZONES. THANK YOU FOR HEARING. THANK YOU, MR. GRIFFIN. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC FORUM ON AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA? ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, [6.C. Ordinance No. 480-846, ZA26-0022, 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Development Plan for Breeze Way at Carroll, on property described as Tract 1A05, J. W. Hale Survey Abstract No. 803 and Lots 2, 25, and 26, O.W. Knight No. 899 Addition, and located at 940 S. Carroll Ave. and 1000-1040 Breeze Way. Current Zoning: “SF-20A” Single Family Residential District, “R-PUD” Residential Planned Unit Development District, and “CS” Community Service District. Requested Zoning: “SF-20A” Single Family Residential District. SPIN Neighborhood #9. PUBLIC HEARING ] I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM. WE'RE GOING TO GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP AHEAD TO ITEM 6C, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER, FIND IT. WORD NUMBER 48-846, CASE NUMBER VA26-0022, SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR BREEZEWAY. AND A QUESTION HERE FOR COUNSEL BEFORE WE GET STARTED IS THE APPLICANT APPARENTLY PROVIDED A NEW PLAN, DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS IN OUR PACKET THIS AFTERNOON AT SOME POINT. WE HAVE THAT UP HERE ON THE DIARIES IN HARD COPIES. I'M GOING TO KIND OF THROW IT OUT FOR DISCUSSION TO COUNCIL BEFORE WE GET INTO THE STAFF PRESENTATION, THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION ON HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE THIS. IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSIDERING EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF US, INCLUDING THE NEW SUBMITTAL FROM THIS AFTERNOON, OR IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TABLING THIS TO GET MORE TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TODAY. BUT, COUNCILMEMBER FOX, YOU'RE PLACE ONE, AND YOU'VE GOT TENURE HERE, SO I'LL START WITH YOU. WE'LL KIND OF WORK OUR WAY AROUND AND SEE WHAT THE CONSENSUS IS AS FAR AS HANDLING 6C IF WE DO TONIGHT. WELL, I REALIZE THAT. WE DO A LOT OF THINGS ON THE FLY AND WE MAKE CHANGES TO PLANS AND AGREE TO THEM ON THE FLY. THIS COMING IN AT THE LAST MINUTE WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT PLAN OR AN ALTERED PLAN THAT I DON'T BELIEVE STAFF HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW. WE DON'T HAVE A STAFF REVIEW LETTER. THAT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE AND I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO POTENTIALLY GIVE STAFF, IF THIS IS THEIR PREFERRED PLAN TO PRESENT, THAT WE SHOULD GIVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT. REVIEW IT AND PROVIDE US WITH THE DETAILS ON IT BEFORE WE CONSIDER IT. AND SINCE THERE IS ANOTHER MEETING IN JUNE, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE TOO ONEROUS TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER TABLING THIS. RANDY FRANCIS. THE LAST TIME HE MADE THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE, THIS IS THEIR DESIRED PIECE. THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL'S TREPIDATION ABOUT THAT. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER OPTION. IF THEY'RE TRUE DESIRED OPTIONS, ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED AND BEEN VETTED BY STAFF, I'D PREFER TO GO AHEAD AND NOTICE IT WITH PETE BENNING. I WOULD HAVE TO SAY I AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER, FOX, IF I WON'T BELIEVE IT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S A MEMBER OF BALANCE. I MEAN, I THINK THE MORE INFORMATION, THE BETTER. AND TO HEAR THE APPLICANT KIND OF TALK THROUGH THEIR PLAN FOR ME WOULD BE HELPFUL. I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE VIDEO THAT I MISSED FROM THE LAST MEETING, BUT I THINK IF THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION, EXPLAIN WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE BETWEEN THE VARIOUS PLANS, AND THEN DECIDE AT THE END TO TABLE IT, AND THEN THEY COME BACK TO THE G&A TEAM, IT MIGHT PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION FOR US AS WE GO ALONG. THAT'S MY RECANTURE OF THE COUNCIL PLAN. I LIKE TO THINK THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT CONSIDERED, THAT IT'S PROVIDED AHEAD OF TIME. FORTUNATELY, AT LEAST FOR ME, A RESIDENT GOT A HOLD OF THIS A COUPLE DAYS AGO, AND I'VE SEEN THIS, SO I'M OKAY WITH IT AS FAR AS SEEING THIS THIS EVENING. BUT, AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT TO DECIDE ON THAT. ERIC? I'M ALSO IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILMEMBER FOX AND SHIRLEY ABOUT HAVING SUFFICIENT TIME FOR STAFF AND OTHERS TO REVIEW AHEAD OF TIME. ALL RIGHT. SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE. NOT A CONSENSUS. [01:00:01] I'M GOING TO SUGGEST I'M UNEASY ABOUT LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST RECEIVED THIS AFTERNOON, BUT LET'S MAYBE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE GOT IN FRONT OF US AND THE APPLICANT CAN MAYBE TALK ABOUT IT, AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE AS A COUNCIL WHETHER WE WANT TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS OR SUGGEST TABLING IT, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. BUT, DENNIS, IF YOU COULD MAYBE, THIS IS THE SECOND READING, KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING THIS NEW SUBMITTAL. THIS IS THE FIRST READING, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THESE THREE OPTIONS AND MAYBE ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU'VE HEARD UP HERE, AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE AS A COUNCIL WHETHER WE WANT TO VOTE ON ANY OF THESE OPTIONS OR TABLE IT. VICE DIRECTOR KILLAM. JUST REAL QUICKLY, OPTIONS ONE AND WHAT IS NOW SHOWN AS THREE IS WHAT WAS DELIVERED TO YOU IN YOUR PACKET AND WAS REVIEWED WITH THE MATERIAL THAT WE SENT LAST WEEK. OPTION TWO. IS THEIR SECONDARY DESIRED OPTION WHICH THEY PRESENTED TODAY AND I BELIEVE IN THEIR PRESENTATION ALSO HAVE A REVISED DRAINAGE PLAN THAT MAYBE ADDRESSES OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS SURROUNDING DRAINAGE. OPTION ONE STILL REQUIRES A VARIANCE TO A STREET FRONTAGE FOR LOTS THREE. THROUGH 5 AND THEY'RE PROPOSING THE ACCESS TO THESE LOTS BE PROVIDED THROUGH A PRIVATE ACCESS DRIVE. OF COURSE BUILT TO CITY AND FIRE STANDARDS FOR AA STREET. BUT NONETHELESS AN EASEMENT WOULD BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED BY THE OWNERS ASSOCIATION. OPTION 2 IS A PUBLICLY DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH REDUCED WIDTH FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. AT 31 FEET OF WIDTH AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS PLAN PROVIDES A NINE AND A HALF FOOT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENT ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT DEDICATED DRIVEWAY THAT PROVIDES USE OF THE LAND TO PUBLIC USE WITHIN THAT 50 FOOT RANGE, BUT THIS OPTION TWO PLAN ELIMINATES. ONE OF THE VARIANCES THAT OPTION THREE CREATED IN THE REPORT, WHICH IS DOUBLE FRONTED LOTS WITH THESE TWO TIMARON LOTS AND REMOVE THE BUFFER LOT VARIANCE THAT WAS LOCATED HERE. THE ONLY VARIANCE WOULD BE THE WIDTH OF RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT IS BEING PROVIDED. OPTION THREE WAS OPTION TWO REPRESENTED IN YOUR PACKET AND THEN IT DEDICATES A PULLING PUBLICLY STANDARD BUILT PUBLIC STREET AND 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY AND THE VARIANCES RELATED TO THIS ARE THE DOUBLE FRONTED LOT CREATION WITH THESE TWO RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT WOULD HAVE BOUGHT ANOTHER PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN THE BUFFER LOT THAT WOULD NOW BE REQUIRED FOR BOTH THREE AND FOUR GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF LOT WIDTH. LOT FOUR NOW SHARES WITH A SF1A PLATTED LOT. AND FROM HERE, IF YOU'D LIKE, I'LL JUMP TO THE APPLICANTS' PRESENTATION BECAUSE I THINK THEY CAN GIVE YOU A BIT MORE COMPLETE OVERVIEW, AND THEY'VE GOT THAT AMENDED OR REVISED DRAINAGE PLAN IN THERE AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. UNLESS THE COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH, WE'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE APPLICANT TO... TALK ABOUT THE PLANS, INCLUDING THE NEW PLAN. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILLOPE THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR. APPLICANT, COME ON DOWN. IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN LET'S GET INTO THESE OPTIONS, INCLUDING THE ONE SUBMITTED THIS AFTERNOON. YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MY NAME IS CURTIS YOUNG WITH THE CITY GROUP, 1130 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE. YOU KNOW, SINCE WE WERE HERE... TWO WEEKS AGO, WE'VE ALMOST DAILY BEEN TALKING TO EITHER NEIGHBORS AND SOME OF YOU. WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO MEET WITH AND DISCUSS THE OPTIONS HERE. AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO DEVELOP THE BEST PLAN FOR GETTING FEEDBACK AND TRY TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. MY APOLOGIES THAT WE JUST GOT THIS PLAN TO STAFF YESTERDAY, BUT IT WAS BASICALLY DEVELOPED THE END OF LAST WEEK. LET ME KIND OF GO THROUGH WHAT WE DID THE OPTIONS. THIS WAS THE ONE THAT YOU SAW TWO WEEKS AGO, OPTION ONE, THE PRIVATE ROAD. [01:05:01] THE THING THAT WE LIKED ABOUT THIS, THE THING THAT OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST LIKED ABOUT THIS, THE SIZE OF LOT NUMBER THREE, BASICALLY, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE HOME TO BE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS. AND WE'RE EVEN VOLUNTEERING A 30-FOOT SETBACK, AN INCREASED SETBACK ON THAT SIDE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TWO THINGS. THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CLOSENESS OF THIS TO THEIR BACKYARDS AND ALSO THE HEIGHT DIFFERENTIAL. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS WAS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY WHERE LOT 3 WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE RAISED AS HIGH AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY, THAT POSITIVE DRAINAGE GOING TO THE EAST. AND THE SOLUTION TO THAT IS, AS MOST SOLUTIONS, COST MONEY, BUT I THINK IT WAS WORTH DOING HERE. AND MY CLIENT'S WILLING TO DO IT, AND THAT'S TO PUT ALL THE DRAINAGE UNDERGROUND, INCLUDING THE DETENTION. AND YOU CAN GO AT A MUCH FLATTER SLOPE WHEN YOU'RE UNDERGROUND IN A PIPE THAN TRYING TO GO ACROSS THE SURFACE. SO THIS DRAINAGE PLAN WAS THE NEW ONE THAT WAS PREPARED, AND YOU CAN SEE THE UNDERGROUND DRAIN LINE COMING FROM HERE. THE DRAINAGE DIVIDE BETWEEN WHAT FLOWS TO OUR WEST, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST NONEXISTENT, THE AMOUNT THAT FLOWS TO THE WEST THERE. SO I THINK THE EXISTING PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT AND IN MEETING WITH THESE NEIGHBORS OVER HERE WOULD BE GREATLY IMPROVED BY BEING ABLE TO DO THE DRAINAGE DIVIDE THIS WAY. AND AGAIN, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT IF WE CAN GO UNDERGROUND HERE, WE CAN DO THIS. AND ALSO... LOT 3 IN THIS SCENARIO IS SEVERAL FEET LOWER THAN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE PROPOSAL THAT WE PRESENTED TWO WEEKS AGO. SO I THINK THIS, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHICH OF THESE PLANS YOU LIKE AND SELECT, THIS IS TRUE ON ALL OF THEM, THAT WE CAN LOWER THAT DOWN THERE AND REDUCE THE DRAINAGE GOING TO THE WEST. THE SECOND PLAN, AND IN MANY RESPECTS, THIS WAS DEVELOPED BASICALLY ON THE MOTION, THE FIRST READING MOTION WAS APPROVED, BUT ALSO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, CAN WE STILL GET FOUR LOTS IF WE HAD A FULL RIGHT OF WAY HERE? THE CLOSE SHOWS THAT WE CLEARLY COULD. IN FACT, WE COULD HAVE GOT FIVE 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS WITH THE PRIVATE ROAD PLAN, BUT WE DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED LOT THREE TO BE AS LARGE AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND KNEW THAT THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT THING. THIS SHOWS HOW IT COULD BE DONE WITH ENTIRELY A PUBLIC ROAD, AND IT PRETTY MUCH FOLLOWS THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE FOR A GREETING. WHAT WE DON'T LIKE ABOUT THIS, HOWEVER, IS THAT BLOCK 3 IS NOW MUCH SMALLER THAN WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED IT, AND IN TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS, THIS WOULD PUT... WHEREVER THAT HOUSE GOES ON THAT, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO THEIR BACKYARDS. AND WHILE IT WOULD STILL BE SEVERAL FEET LOWER THAN IT WAS THE PREVIOUS THING, IT WOULD STILL BE FIVE PLUS FEET TALLER THAN THEIR BACKYARDS. AND SO THE MORE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, THE MORE WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT. AND THERE YOU OFTEN SAY, BRING US OPTIONS. SO WE'RE BRINGING YOU OPTIONS. AND SO WE CAME UP WITH. ANOTHER OPTION, AND AGAIN THE DRAINAGE IS SIMILAR HERE, AND THIS OPTION WAS IF WE, A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WAS IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE ROAD TO BE A PUBLIC ROAD, SO THESE HOMEOWNERS EXPECTED BY THAT POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE. THIS WAS A WAY WHERE IT COULD BE A PUBLIC ROAD, THE PAVING IS ALL WITHIN A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEN THE... SIDEWALK AND UTILITIES THAT WOULD NORMALLY GO ON EITHER SIDE OF A 31-FOOT, MAYBE, ARE IN AN EASEMENT. SO ON THE GROUND AND TO THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY CAN CONTROL IT, IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME. BUT WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IT WOULD ALLOW US TO ENLARGE LOT NUMBER THREE TO 30,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS NOT 35,000 SQUARE FEET, BUT WE THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN STILL... OFFER THE 30 FOOT SETBACK THERE FROM TO OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST. KEEP THAT HOUSE FURTHER AWAY FROM. [01:10:02] IT ALSO ELIMINATES THE VARIANCES THAT ARE REQUIRED THAT DENNIS MENTIONED TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH. SO THIS WAS JUST, I THINK, AN ATTEMPT AFTER WE HEARD IT FROM EVERYONE AND WANTED TO ADDRESS EVERYONE'S CONCERN. IT'S KIND OF THE BEST SOLUTION TO ALL OF THIS. AND SO WE WANTED TO PRESENT THIS. AND AGAIN, APOLOGIES FOR NOT COMING UP WITH THIS TWO WEEKS AGO. WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON IT. IF YOU ALL FEEL LIKE YOU WANT THE STAFF TO REALLY GO THROUGH EVERY PART OF THIS AND HAVE US COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS, WE'RE OPEN TO THAT. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND THE BEST SOLUTION HERE. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU TOOK OUR FEEDBACK FROM THE FIRST READING, CAME UP WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND MORE OPTIONS ARE BETTER. I'M COMFORTABLE JUST MOVING FORWARD. AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVE SUBMITTED COMMENT CARDS AND PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WANT TO SPEAK. SO IF WE CAN, WE'LL CONTINUE FORWARD. AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE'LL BE AT THE END OF THIS, IF IT WILL BE A SUGGESTION TO TABLE IT OR IF WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE MERITS. BUT LET'S KEEP GOING FORWARD. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY ABOUT ANY OF THESE OPTIONS? WELL, NO, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT WE STILL ARE GOING TO BE THE LARGEST LOTS OF ANY OF THE SEVEN DIVISIONS. I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY COMPATIBLE WITH. IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? GO AHEAD, GARY. JUST REAL QUICK. THANK YOU. SINCE THIS IS IN THE ABSENCE OF A STAFF REVIEW LETTER, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OPTION TWO AND OPTION THREE, I GUESS? IS IT ONLY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE ADJUSTMENT TO LOT SIZE THREE? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MISSING HERE IS A MORE THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF WHAT EVERYTHING MEANS. YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S LESS RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE LOTS COULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE CONDENSED TOWARD THE EAST A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND IT'S ALLOWED US TO GET LOT THREE LARGER. AND IT TAKES AWAY THE VARIANCES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. THOSE ARE THE MAIN DIFFERENCES AS FAR AS THE ROAD. THE CONCRETE IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT IS. THE SIDEWALK IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT WOULD BE ON A PUBLIC ROAD. THE ABILITY TO PUT UTILITIES IN THAT UTILITY AND SIDEWALK IS PUBLIC RIGHT. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. IS THE DRAINAGE THE SAME ON OPTION TWO? IS IT UNDERGROUND? YES. AND SO IT'S THE SAME AS IT WAS ON OPTION? YES. OKAY. THE DOWN AT THE SAME. WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT ON ANY OF THESE OPTIONS. AND THE HEIGHT OF LOT THREE, IS IT DOWN SO IT'S NOT LOOKING INTO THE PEOPLE ON THE LONG-DISTANCE? IT'S STILL HIGHER THAN THE NEIGHBOR, BUT IT'S DOWN SEVERAL FEET FROM WHERE IT WAS LAST TIME BECAUSE OF THE INVESTMENT IN THE UNDERGROUND. AND HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE OTHER ONE THAT'S LOWER? IS THIS THE LOWEST OR IS IT ANOTHER? OF ONE OF YOUR OPTIONS LOT THREE LOWER? I THINK THEY'RE ALL ROUGHLY THE SAME BECAUSE IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE DRAINAGE. THE SLOPE OF THE PIPE CAN BE SHALLOWER THAN THE SLOPE OF THE LOW GROUND DRAINAGE. SO I THINK ALL THESE ARE BASICALLY THE SAME HEIGHT WISE, IT'S JUST THIS ONE ALLOWS LOT THREE TO BE LARGER SO THE HOUSE CAN BE FURTHER AWAY. CURTIS, THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE ON THAT BACKSIDE ON LOT THREE? I BELIEVE YOU SAID PRIVATELY THAT IT WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR FEET VERSUS PRESENTED BEFORE WITH SIX FEET. IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN SIX FEET BEFORE, BUT IT'S IN THE FOUR OR FIVE FOOT RANGE NOW. WE'LL JUST NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD BEFORE YOU GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT ONE. ABSOLUTELY. GOOD EVENING. CLAY CHRISTIE, CLAYMORE ENGINEERING, 3231 HARWOOD AVENUE, BEDFORD, TEXAS. COMMISSIONER TACKARD, YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. WE WERE ABOUT SIX FEET OR SO. WITH THAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE GONE TO THE INLET OVER ON CARROLL. WE PUT IN A STORM DRAIN PIPE LIKE THAT, RUN IT BACK. WHAT THAT DID IS IT ALLOWED US TO LOWER THAT WESTERN END AROUND LOT THREE WHERE WE CAN GET IT BACK DOWN VERSUS ESSENTIALLY GO OVER THE HILL WITH THE WATER. AND SO WHAT THAT'S ALLOWED US TO DO IS DROP ABOUT TWO FEET TO BE ABLE TO GET DOWN TO WHERE INSTEAD WE WERE AT THAT INITIAL SIX. SO GIVE OR TAKE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOWER THAT TWO MORE FEET TO GET IT DOWN TO FOUR. AND THEN SO THE STORAGE CAPACITY OF THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE STORMWATER SYSTEM THAT [01:15:01] WE'D BE LOOKING AT. ...VERSUS THE ORIGINAL DETENTION POND THAT WAS PROPOSED. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE CAPACITY FOR THOSE? SO, I DON'T HAVE THE CUBIC FEET EXACTLY, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS THAT SINCE WE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF FLOW THAT'S GOING TO THE WEST, AND WE STILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF RELEASE RATE THAT YOU HAVE, IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO TO CARROLL. THE ACTUAL VOLUME IN THE PIPE IS MORE THAN THAT. IT INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF ATTENTION. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT WE JUST RAN KIND OF OUR BASIC, YOU KNOW, MODIFIED RATIONAL METHOD TO DEVELOP THE AMOUNT OF CUBIC FEET THAT ARE NEEDED, AND THEN WE RAN THE PIPE. BASICALLY, WHAT THAT IS, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A RESTRICTOR PLATE BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE CURB INLET, BEFORE IT TIES INTO THE CURB INLET. YEAH, THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT QUESTION. YEAH, SO I THINK THE UNDERGROUND SYSTEM WOULD BE AT LEAST DOUBLE WHAT THE DETENTION POND IS GOING TO HAVE. BUT THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE, I GUESS, YOU'RE ABLE TO SLOW IT DOWN WITH YOUR, JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BIGGER RELEASE. SO KIND OF THINK OF IT, WHENEVER I TRY TO EXPLAIN IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A BATHTUB, RIGHT? YOU FILL UP THE BATHTUB, YOU HAVE A LITTLE OUTLET, THERE'S MORE WATER COMING IN THAN GOES OUT THE DRAIN. AND THEN EVENTUALLY THE SHOWER TURNS OFF AND THEN THE BATHTUB. THAT'S KIND OF ESSENTIALLY A VERY RUDIMENTARY TYPE EXPLANATION OF HOW THAT WORKS. AND THEN CURTIS, ON THE BUILDING ITSELF, ON LOT THREE, ARE WE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING FROM DOWNSPOUTS OR DRIVEWAYS OR POOL DECKING, WATER FROM THOSE WOULD NOT END UP IN THAT TYPE OF UTILITY EASEMENT AND WOULD BE DIRECTED INTO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM? YES, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE DRAINAGE THING THERE. YEAH, THE DOWN TRUSS AND EVERYTHING, BUT ALMOST THE WHOLE LOT IS GOING TO YOUR DRAIN PIPE. YEAH, NO, SO AS AN EXAMPLE, MY HOUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT THE POOL IN. SO A POOL CONTRACTOR, A BUILDING CONTRACTOR, MAYBE A POOL CONTRACTOR, A POOL CONTRACTOR COMES IN. IN THIS CASE, LET'S SAY THEY PUT THE POOL IN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY, NORTHWEST SIDE, THE MOST DIRECT PLACE FOR... THE POOL CONTRACTOR TO RUN ANY OVERFLOW FROM THE POOL AS WELL AS FROM A STORM IS TO HAVE THE DRAIN JUST GO STRAIGHT OUT NORTH RIGHT THERE INTO THAT EASEMENT, AND THEN WE END UP WITH MORE WATER. SO I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DIRECT THAT WATER SOUTH, IN THIS CASE, OVER TO THE STORM. YES. AS WE MENTIONED IN OUR MEETING, YES, COMMITTED TO RUN THE ROOF ALL THE WAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. AND JUST IN 10 SECONDS, YOU CAN PUT UP A LITTLE BIT. GO AHEAD. OKAY, COOL. CURTIS HAD A QUICK QUESTION. SO I KNOW LAST TIME WHEN YOU PRESENTED, DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE NEW OPTIONS YOU PRESENTED TONIGHT, BUT I REMEMBER THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS AROUND TRAFFIC AS WELL AS SAFETY FOR THE KIDS ACROSS THE STREET. SO I WANTED TO SEE, BASED UPON THE NEW TWO OPTIONS THAT YOU PRESENTED TONIGHT, HOW DO YOU ALL FORESEE ANY OF THE IMPACTS OF ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS FROM LAST MEETING? WELL, CERTAINLY I THINK OUR SOLUTION IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN WHAT'S EXISTING OUT THERE NOW. 75 CAR PARKING LOT WITH THE DRIVEWAY APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET FROM THE CORNER OF BREEZEWAY AND CARROLL, WHICH IS REALLY AN UNSAFE SITUATION. SO I THINK THE CHANGE OF THE ZONING TO RESIDENTIAL, MOVING ALL THE ACCESS FROM THE CORNER LOT THERE, WHICH IS LOT 6, TO OUR DRIVEWAY, WHICH LEADS TO THE INTERNAL ROAD, IF YOU WILL, WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE OR NOT, WILL GREATLY IMPROVE. THE TRAFFIC THERE AT THE CORNER. THE ISSUE WITH THE TRAFFIC BACKING UP TO THE SCHOOL IS REALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. ACCESS TO AND FROM THIS WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY THAT. NOW SOMEONE LEAVING ONE OF THESE HOMES AT THAT 15 MINUTES THAT THAT'S HAPPENING WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT. THEY'D HAVE TO TURN RIGHT AND GO DOWN TO THE... THAT'S AN EXISTING ISSUE THAT REALLY WE DON'T AFFECT. [01:20:06] CLAY, QUESTION, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, I THINK THIS IS CLEARLY THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS LAND. I MEAN, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING AROUND IT, AND IT'S LESS DENSE THAN MOST THAT'S AROUND IT. SO APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF THAT AND HOW YOU'RE DESIGNING THIS AND BEING RECEPTIVE TO THESE COMMENTS. I ALSO THINK IT'S ATTEMPTING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW, SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD. I THINK TO TUSSMAN WANG'S COMMENT, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO INSTALL SOME SIGNS ON THAT ROAD THAT SAY, DON'T PARK HERE KIND OF THING BECAUSE I THINK YOU WILL HAVE PARENTS THAT SAY, KIDS COME TO YOU OVER THERE AFTER SCHOOL TO PICK UP SO I DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO CUBAN LAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THERE. MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE DETENTION. THANK YOU FOR THINKING ABOUT THIS FROM AN UNDERGROUND DETENTION STANDPOINT. I WAS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT. THE WESTERN SIDE DETENTION, NOT THAT IT'S THERE, BUT THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT LOT IS MUCH LARGER AS PROPOSED, WHOEVER BUYS THAT IS JUST LOOKING AT A BIG HOLE IN THE GROUND, RIGHT, AND HOW THAT'S MANAGED. SO I WAS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION, BUT NOW I THINK IT'S STILL A PERTINENT QUESTION. THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE AN HOA ESTABLISHED FOR THESE SIX HOMES, I ASSUME, RIGHT? SO IT DEPENDS. ON THE OPTION THAT GETS PRESENTED, THEY HAVE TO. IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE WITH A PRIVATE ROAD. WITH A PRIVATE ROAD, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE, RIGHT, HAVE AN HOA TO BE ABLE TO FIND AND, YOU KNOW, DO SOME PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS. WELL, THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH IT. FROM A DETENTION MAINTENANCE, HOW IS THAT HANDLED? I THINK ABOUT THE DETENTION, THE UNDERGROUND DETENTION THAT WAS AT METHODIST HOSPITAL RIGHT ON 114. RIGHT? I KNOW IT IS, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT UP. AND THAT CAN BE SOLVED BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF WHAT IT IS, RIGHT, WHETHER USING CONCRETE CULVERTS OR PLASTIC CULVERTS. THOSE WERE PLASTIC, RIGHT? THEY WERE ARCH. YEAH, THEY WERE PLASTIC ARCH PIPES THAT THEY HAD. YEAH. AND I THINK THERE WAS. IT LOOSENED AND CAUSED SOME PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO PERSONALLY, FOR OUR ENGINEERING DESIGN PRACTICE, WE ACTUALLY DON'T USE IT, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT WAS. AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY ON THE MATERIAL ON THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT. JUST LIKE IF YOU HAD A COMMON DETENTION POND WITH A 100-LOT SUBDIVISION, THE MAINTENANCE ON THAT WOULD FALL ON THE HOA. WELL, THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH IT. IT WOULD BE A SMALLER STORAGE. THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH IT. IF IT FAILS, RIGHT, IF IT WAS A DETENTION POND JUST ON THAT LOT, THEN I WOULD ASSUME THAT LOT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR... THE DREDGING OR KEEPING IT, YOU KNOW. BUT IF YOU'RE HAVING SOME SORT OF LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT, BUT SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THESE HOMEOWNERS THAT THEY'RE ON THE HOOK FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FAILURE OF IT OR THE MAINTENANCE OF IT OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE SOLUTION ENDS UP BEING, THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN. SO TYPICALLY THAT'S HOW THAT GETS SET UP IS THAT THAT WOULD BE NOT OR NOT THE HOMEOWNER. SO THAT'S WHY THE OTHER OPTION THERE, WHETHER IT BE WITHIN MOBILITY OR WE'RE A SIDEWALK PRIVATE, WE CAN... OKAY, THAT'S THE PAVEMENT, PUBLIC SIDEWALK, PRIVATE UTILITIES, BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN THERE, AND WE'D BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT. IT IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE RIGHT STREET, [01:25:01] AND THEN IF THERE IS... SOMETHING THERE, TYPICALLY WITH THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE, IF THERE IS A FAILURE OR THERE IS A PROBLEM, TYPICALLY WHAT YOU WOULD DO THERE IS SEEING A POINT OF FAILURE. WHETHER WE WANT TO BE PROPERTY POST-CONSTRUCTION. AND MOST OF THE TIME, EVEN LIKE THE ABOVE-GROUND PONDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHAT THEY ARE IS THEY'RE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED AND PRIVATELY OWNED, BUT THERE'S A DETENTION EASEMENT THAT IS DEDICATED FOR IT. WHAT HAVE WE DONE OTHER THAN WHERE IT'S PRIVATELY MAINTAINED AND EVERYTHING'S THERE, BUT THERE IS AN EASEMENT THERE, AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, THE CITY HAS TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND CHECK IT OR DO WHATEVER. WE WOULD FOLLOW ALL THOSE STANDARD PROCEDURES FOR PROPER DOCUMENTATION OF THE PROPERTIES. YEAH, IT'S JUST AN ACUTE TOPIC POINT AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW. SO, ANYWAY. BUT OTHERWISE, I THINK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS AT THIS TIME? GO AHEAD, RANDY. YES, I JUST REALLY WANT TO DELINEATE. THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION TWO AND THREE IS THAT EASEMENT PIECE IS NOT A PUBLIC EASEMENT. IT'S A PRIVATELY OWNED EASEMENT. YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT THIS PIECE IN, WHEREAS IF YOU WENT, IF YOU, IF, IF. WITH OPTION THREE BEING 50-FOOT EASEMENT AND ALL, YOU WOULD EITHER HAVE TO PUT THIS UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE OUTSIDE THAT EASEMENT SO THAT YOU STILL OWNED IT AND IT CUTS INTO THINGS. RIGHT. BUT THE CITY STILL WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. WHEREAS IF WE DO OPTION TWO, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR EASEMENT THAT'S THERE FOR WHATEVER THE CITY NEEDS FROM A SIDEWALK OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S JUST THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT THIS DRAINAGE PIECE UNDERNEATH THAT EASEMENT AND STILL MAINTAIN THE SERVICE OF IT. IS THAT IT? ACCURATE BETWEEN THE TWO. THAT'D BE CORRECT. WE WOULD DEDICATE THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK TO THE ON-TOP. I LIKE THAT IT IS A SIGN, BUT I THINK THE SIGN WOULD BE OF JUSTICE IN THE CITY. I DON'T THINK THEY COULD, IF IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN SAY NO PARKING IS THAT ACCURATE. YEAH, WE JUST HAVEN'T DETERMINED WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE OR PUBLIC ROAD. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S THE PIECE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT. PEOPLE PARKING IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, ACTUALLY. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED, TOO. SO, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS AT THIS TIME? NEITHER FOR THE APPLICANT NOR DENNIS. I'D LIKE TO SEE OPTION, I GUESS IT'S OPTION TWO, WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING THE NEW OPTION. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TREE MITIGATION AND BUFFER AND THE SCREENING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. YES. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A PRESENTATION. YEAH, LET ME, I'VE GOT THAT. LET ME GO TO THE OPTION TWO. HERE'S THE OPTION TWO WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND WE'RE SHOWING. THE TREE BUFFER THAT WE PROMISED LAST TIME ALONG THE FAR WESTERN END OF LOT NUMBER THREE, THOSE WOULD BE EVERGREEN SCREENING TREES PUT IN THERE TO ACCENTUATE A VISUAL SCREEN, IN ADDITION TO PERHAPS A SMALL RETAINING WALL AND AN 8-FOOT FENCE. SO I THINK THE VISUAL SCREENING WOULD BE PRETTY GOOD. THE OTHER THING, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS UP, CALVIN. THE OTHER THING YOU ASKED US ABOUT. THE TREES THAT WERE TAKEN OUT AND WERE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE 70% TREE SAVING THING. YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, WE'RE SAVING, LOOK AT THE LIST OF SAVED TREES AS COMPARED TO THE LIST OF REMOVED TREES. WE'RE SAVING THE MAJORITY OF TREES. IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT SOME OF THE TREES WE CAN'T SAVE ARE VERY LARGE. BUT WITH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE DOTS AND THE PURPLE DOTS IN THERE, THOSE ARE THE TREES WE'D BE ADDING. THANK YOU. COUNT THOSE IN, THE TREE MITIGATION SUMMARY CHART IN THE UPPER LEFT SHOWS THAT IF WE COUNT THOSE IN, THAT WE'RE REPLANTING THOSE, WE'RE GETTING UP ABOVE THE 70%. SO I THINK THIS SHOWS HOW WE'RE COMMITTING TO MITIGATING, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE WERE ASKING. AND IS THAT NUMBER THE SAME BASICALLY FOR BOTH OPTIONS? YES. OKAY. THAT'S REALLY GOOD. I'M AWARE OF ONE OF THEM. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. ERIC, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. STICK AROUND, GUYS. CAN I ASK DIRECTOR KELO TO ASK ONE QUICK QUESTION BEFORE YOU OPEN THE HEARING? YES, SIR. [01:30:01] SPEAK TO THE DIFFERENCE, THE PRACTICAL DIFFERENCES, AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBINS DID A LITTLE BIT, BUT BETWEEN THE PRIVATE EASEMENT AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO US AS A CITY? CERTAINLY. TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS THROUGH JUST A PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT AND PRIVATE DRIVEWAY IS NOT PERMITTED UNDER SUBDIVISION. I'M SORRY, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION TWO AND THREE. OKAY. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEFINITION. SURE, SURE. TWO AND THREE. OPTION TWO IS DEDICATING A MORE NARROW PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY SECTION THAT JUST COVERS THE AREA BETWEEN BACK OF CURB AND BACK OF CURB OF THE PROPOSED PUBLIC STREET TO PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS AND UTILITIES TO WHAT IS TYPICALLY THE... CALLED THE PARKWAY AREA OF A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH IS TYPICALLY A MINIMUM OF 50 FEET OF WIDTH. THEY'RE PROVIDING A NINE AND A HALF FOOT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENT. THAT WILL BE PART OF AND COUNTED IN THE LOT AREAS OF THE ADJOINING LOTS. THAT IS THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE. IT IS A VARIANCE LINE, A REDUCED RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION FOR A PUBLIC STREET. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS. SO AT THAT POINT, THE HOMEOWNER HAS BECOME RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE UNDERGROUND, AT LEAST THE SEWER LINE, THE STORM SEWER? I KNOW. ANY PUBLIC UTILITIES THAT WOULD GO INTO THAT UTILITY EASEMENT WOULD BE MAINTAINED. BY THE CITY OF THEIR CITY OF SOUTHLAKE UTILITIES. ANY FRANCHISE UTILITIES THAT WOULD GO IN THERE, THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FRANCHISE UTILITY. MAINTENANCE OF THOSE AREAS ARE REQUIRED BY THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS. AND THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN THAT SITUATION AS IT WOULD BE WITH A PUBLIC 50-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION. THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS. THAT HAVE BUCKED THAT ROADWAY ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT PARKWAY AREA AS PART OF THEIR MAINTENANCE OF THEIR OWN PROPERTY, KEEPING IT CUT AND TRIMMED, FREE OF DEBRIS, AND ETC. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, FOR OPTION THREE THAT WAS TO US HERE, THERE WAS A VARIANCE FOR DOUBLE-FRONTED RESIDENTIAL LOTS ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE. STILL THERE REGARDLESS OF OPTION TWO OR THREE THAT'S THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOW A PUBLIC ROAD. CORRECT. AND IT APPEARS, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT CLARIFICATION FROM THE APPLICANT ON THIS, IT APPEARS THAT THIS PORTION OF WHAT WOULD HAVE, THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT AWAY FROM THAT 50-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION, WHICH CREATED THE BUDDING PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ACCESS. AND DOUBLE FRONTED LOT IS BEING PROPOSED AS A EASEMENT. AND IF IT'S NOT BEING COUNTED AS PART OF LOT THREE, IT'S IN A, I'M SURE INTENDED TO BE IN A LANDSCAPE EASEMENT THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY ONE OR MORE OR ALL THE OWNERS. AND IN THAT CASE, IT TAKES AWAY THAT VARIANCE THEN BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER PUBLIC? YES, IT ELIMINATES THAT DOUBLE-FRONTED VARIANCE. AND WE'VE HAD A FEW SIMILAR SITUATIONS AND SOME DEVELOPMENTS WHERE A STREET WAS NEEDED AND THE DEVELOPER OR THE ADJOINING OWNERS WANTED THAT DOUBLE-FRONTED PORTION, AND SO THEY OFFSET THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND PUT A BUFFER YARD OR LANDSCAPE. STRIP THAT BECAME AN OPEN SPACE ELEMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS TREE PIECE HERE BECAUSE I'M GUESSING THAT, AND THIS MAY BE MORE FOR THE DEVELOPERS, PART OF THE ISSUE WITH GOING TO THE 50 FOOT RIGHT AWAY IS YOU WOULD HAVE TO MOVE THAT UNDERGROUND IRRIGATION INTO THE PRIVATE SPACE AND I'M GUESSING YOU LOSE A LOT OF THOSE TREES BY THAT DIG. AND THEN ASSUMING WITH THIS PLAN YOU SAVE THOSE TREES. IS THAT ACCURATE? PROBABLY WANT TO COME ON UP. WITH THE STORM DRAIN WHERE WE DO THE 50 FOOT, THE STORM DRAIN HAS, WILL HAVE [01:35:01] TO MOVE, AND DON'T HAVE TO MOVE. IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE THAT PARTICULARLY AROUND THE EAST, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A PRIVATE DRAINAGE EASEMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT 50 FOOT EASEMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO ENCROACH INTO THE PEOPLE'S FRONT YARD EVEN MORE. THE CITY'S NOT GOING TO WANT US, AND EVEN THE DEVELOPERS, WHENEVER THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO PLANT THE TREES IN THAT PRIVATE DRAINAGE EASEMENT BECAUSE THEN IT CAN CAUSE FUTURE STUFF. SO ALLOWING US TO NARROW THAT PUSHES THAT STORM DRAIN FURTHER AWAY FROM THE HOMES. LEAVES THOSE HOMEOWNERS MORE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LANDSCAPING TREES IN THEIR FRONT YARD. SO THIS OPTION STILL GIVES THE CITY EVERYTHING THEY NEED AND WANT FROM A PUBLIC STANDPOINT. I BELIEVE SO. ALLOWS, AND I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FOR DENNIS TOO, ALLOWS YOU ALL TO PUT THE DRAINAGE IN A FUNCTIONAL WAY THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS AND FOR THE SAVING OF THE TREES AND FOR YOU AS THE DEVELOPER. ACCURATE. I'M DEFERRING TO THE DEVELOPER ON WHAT THEY'RE DICTATING HERE. FROM THE CITY'S STANDPOINT, WE DON'T LOSE ANYTHING WITH THIS, FROM OUR ACCESS OR ANYTHING? FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, NO. I MEAN, THE STREET'S PUBLICLY DEDICATED AND THE EASEMENTS ARE STILL IN PLACE TO ALLOW USE OF WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PARKWAY AREA FOR ANY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS OR FRANCHISE UTILITIES THAT ARE NEEDED. ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM 6C IS A SECOND READING AND REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING. SO I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 6C. WE HAVE SOME CARDS AND SOME E-MAILS, ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS FROM FOLKS. SO I'LL JUST TAKE THEM IN ORDER THAT WE RECEIVE THEM, AND THEN I'LL ALSO INVITE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVE NOT ALREADY SUBMITTED A CARD OR AN E-MAIL TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK. SO FIRST UP IS ANDY SPOLANTE AT 1125 HAVEN CIRCLE, WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF 6C. YES, SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? ANDY SPOLANTE. GO AHEAD. I GOT IT DOWN, BUT IT'S NOT DOWN PAT NOW. ANDY SPOLANTE, 1125 HAVEN CIRCLE. UM, THIS THING IS JUST A BOP. THIS COP HAD IT CORRECT. WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? I SPENT THREE HOURS AND NOW IT'S MEANINGLESS. IT ALL CHANGED. NOW WE GOT OPTION THREE. WHY ARE WE GIVING IT SO MANY CHANCES? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE WALKED THE PROPERTY. I'VE GONE OUT THERE AND SEEN THE DROP FROM THE CHURCH. IT'S STEEP. AND ALL THAT DRAINAGE IS GOING TO GO DOWN THERE. AND IF YOU THINK THE DRAINAGE IS GOING TO BE FIXED AS SOMETHING THAT IS APPROVED BY THE CITY, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CROSS CONTINENTAL AND LOOK AT THE TIMURON GREENBELT, WHERE THEY APPROVED THE SLIP AND SLIDE FOR DRAINAGE. THROUGH THAT GREENBELT, WE'RE CRAMMING TOO MUCH STUFF INTO THIS PROPERTY. LOT 3 ALMOST SHOULDN'T EXIST. IT SHOULD BE A DETENTION POND, OR EXCUSE ME, A RETENTION POND, AND PUT BACK THE 30-FOOT SETBACK. AND WITH THESE DRIVEWAYS, THE 31-FOOT DRIVEWAY, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE ISSUES WITH VEHICLES BEING ABLE TO MAKE A U-TURN. THE LAST MEETING THE ARCHITECT BROUGHT UP, WELL HAVEN CIRCLE ONLY HAS 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. YEAH, BUT WE HAVE A CUL-DE-SAC. AND THE CUL-DE-SAC MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN HOW YOU GET AROUND THESE. IF THAT'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC STREET, THEN PEOPLE FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND ANYONE ELSE HAS ACCESS TO DRIVE DOWN THAT STREET AND EVEN PARK ON IT. UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO PLAN ON PUTTING A GATE IN FRONT OF IT, AND I CAN DO THAT. SO, ANYWAY, I DON'T APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THIS THING WAS DROPPED ON US, AND THAT WE'RE SPENDING THIS MUCH TIME, AND NOW I GOTTA RETHINK ALL MY THREE AND FOUR HOURS WORTH OF STUFF. SAME ISSUE. AND ONE LAST THING. THIS CAMERA, WHEN IT'S ON ME, FOCUSES ON PEOPLE BEHIND ME, TOO. IN THE LAST MEETING, PEOPLE WERE SITTING THERE MAKING SILLY FACES. AND GIGGLING AND GOOFING OFF, AND I DIDN'T APPRECIATE IT. SO, WHOEVER'S SITTING [01:40:01] BEHIND ME, THEY NEED TO... THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT COMMENT CARD IS FROM BETSY HINES AT 1100 LONGFORD CIRCLE. WE'LL SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 60. YES, MA'AM. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN WE'LL START THE TIMER FOR YOU. BETSY HINES, 1100 LONGFORD CIRCLE. I AM... ONE OF THE HOUSES ON THE WEST SIDE, I'M HERE FOR MYSELF AND SEVERAL OF OUR NEIGHBORS. FIRST, WE DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THIS BEING DEVELOPED. THE CHURCH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NOTHING THERE. WE ALWAYS HAD RUNOFF PROBLEMS WITH WATER. THE DEVELOPER, THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT ADDRESSING THE PROBLEMS FOR US OF THE DRAINAGE. BYE. I AM BEGGING YOU ALL TO JUST SCRAP OPTION. THAT DOES NOT GIVE US ANYTHING BUT THE 10-FOOT EASEMENT BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY LINE AND LOT THREE. SO I HIGHLY, LIKE, I JUST REALLY BEG YOU TO JUST SCRATCH THAT. WE PREFER OPTION ONE BECAUSE THAT IS GIVING US THE BIGGEST SPACE BETWEEN. THE 10-FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT AND THE 30-FOOT SETBACK FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE TO HOUSE NUMBER THREE. AND THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT DRAINAGE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WE DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT A HOUSE. SO AS FAR BACK AS THAT HOUSE CAN GO, THAT IS OUR PREFERENCE. AND ADDRESSING WHAT THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN JUST SAID ABOUT TAKING AWAY LOT THREE AND MAKING A RETENTION POND THERE, I WOULD HIGHLY OPPOSE THAT. I DON'T WANT A RETENTION POND ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THAT'S BUT, AGAIN, OPTION ONE IS THE NEIGHBOR'S FAVORITE. SO I JUST WANTED YOU GUYS ALL TO KNOW. AND, AGAIN, OPTION THREE IS OUR LEAST FAVORITE. THERE'S NO SPACE. IT'S THE 10-FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT, AND THAT'S IT. SO THEN WE'RE LOOKING INTO SOMEONE'S HOUSE, OR THEY'RE LOOKING INTO OURS. SO I JUST HOPE YOU GUYS CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. NEXT UP ON PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS IS MARK SCHULTE AT 1200 HAVEN CIRCLE, WHICH IS TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 6E. OKAY, WE'LL NOTE, THANK YOU FOR THAT, WE'LL NOTE MARK SCHULTE AT 1200 HAVEN CIRCLE WAS NOTED OPPOSITION TO 6C. THAT'S PART OF THE RECORD. NEXT UP WE HAVE BRENDA SQUALANTE AT 1125 HAVEN CIRCLE WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 6C. COME ON DOWN. IF YOU COULD RESTATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. BRENDA SQUALANTE, 1125 HAVEN CIRCLE. I KIND OF WANT TO REITERATE WHAT MY HUSBAND SAID, BUT I'M BACK TO THE SAFETY ISSUE. AND I HEARD YOU, MR. REYNOLDS, SAY SOMETHING ABOUT SIGNAGE. THERE'S SIGNAGE ON BREEZEWAY THAT SAYS NO PARKING ALL ALONG IT. AND ALL FOR 10 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, THERE'S PARKING ALONG BREEZEWAY. THE ONE LANE IS SHUT DOWN WHILE THE PARENTS ARE PICKING UP THEIR KIDS. AND FOR 15 MINUTES, IT'S LONGER THAN 15 MINUTES. THIRTY MINUTES IS LONGER THAN THIRTY MINUTES. AND WHEN YOU'RE THE, IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD, AND WHEN WE'RE WANTING TO USE A PUBLIC ROAD, GO NORTH AND SOUTH, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO AROUND BECAUSE THE STUDENTS, THE PARENTS ARE PICKING UP THEIR KIDS. NOW, THE DEVELOPER MENTIONED TO ME LAST WEEK, OR TWO WEEKS AGO, STOPPED ME AND HE SAID THAT A ROAD COULD BE ADDED ON BREEZEWAY AND TO HELP WITH THE PARENTS PICKING UP THEIR KIDS. WHY HASN'T THE CITY DONE THAT? IS THAT AN OPTION? TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANES ONTO BREEZEWAY SO THAT THERE'S NOT THIS BACKUP AND ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADD MORE HOUSING? NOBODY'S OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY MAKING MONEY OFF OF THEIR INVESTMENTS. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, IS MAKING SOME MONEY. BUT NOT TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY LIVING HERE THAT WANT TO USE THE PUBLIC ROADS THAT HAVE ALREADY RISKED POSSIBLY GETTING HIT. BY TURNING ON THE CAROL BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A DOUBLE LANE [01:45:02] ON CAROL. WHERE THEY BACK UP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BREEZEWAY, YOU CAN'T SEE WHEN YOU'RE TURNING. IT'S A PROBLEM. IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY PROBLEM. AND IF YOU LIVE IN THE AREA AND YOU USE BREEZEWAY, AND ESPECIALLY 10 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR WHEN SCHOOL'S IN SESSION, WHETHER THERE'S A RECORD ON THE POLICE, A POLICE REPORT OR NOT, WE'VE SPOKEN TO THE POLICE, WHETHER THEY WROTE IT UP OR NOT, IT'S A PROBLEM. IT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM. AND IT ISN'T JUST 15 MINUTES. AND IT ISN'T JUST, OH, JUST TURN RIGHT. WE SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE AND USE THE ROAD. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE IS ALLOWING NO PARKING, PEOPLE TO PARK ON A NO PARKING ROAD ALL ALONG GREASEWAY EVERY DAY WHEN THE SCHOOL'S IN SESSION. IT'S NOT RIGHT. WHY CAN'T, WHY, IF THEY CAN BREAK THE LAW, DO WE ALL GET A LITTLE MULLIGAN FOR SOMETHING ELSE DOWN THE ROAD? IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT TO HAVE THOSE SIGNS AND ALLOW THEM. TO PARK THERE, IT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED BEFORE YOU DO SOMETHING AND HAVE MORE CARS AND MORE TRUCKS AND MORE SERVICE VEHICLES DUMPING INTO BREEZEWAY AND BEING FORCED TO TURN RIGHT WHEN THE SCHOOL'S COMING. WHAT IF THEY WANT TO TURN LEFT? THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT, TOO. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF WHAT HE SAID. THAT'S MY ISSUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS THAT WENT OUT AND HAVE THE FOLLOWING RESPONSES, AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. LONNIE WILSON AT 811 LONGFORD DRIVE WAS OPPOSED. BRENDA SCALANTE AT 1125 HAVEN WAS OPPOSED. ROGER HEERING AT 1240 HAVEN WAS OPPOSED. MICHAEL AND PATRICIA HELDUM AT 606 LOGAN'S LANE IN FAVOR. LAUREN NELSON AT 608 MORNINGSIDE IN FAVOR. WESLEY WRIGHT AT 940 SOUTH CARROLL IN FAVOR. FAVOR. RYAN WILSON AT 1000 MEADOW COURT IN FAVOR. NOREEN KANE AT 609 FAIRWAY VIEW TERRACE IN FAVOR. JOSEPH DUNCAN AT 1301 BURGUNDY COURT IN FAVOR. TREVOR TACKER, NO ADDRESS GIVEN, TIMURON, IN FAVOR. ERIC PYLUND AT 1200 SARAH PARK TRAIL IN FAVOR. EMILY BAIN AT 705 LORAIN DRIVE FAVOR DANIELLE COOLEY AT 710 BRYSON WAY IN FAVOR, AND MARK SCHULTE AT 1200 HAVEN CIRCLE OPPOSED. I'LL OPEN UP AGAIN TO ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEM 6C. PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SURE. COME ON DOWN. AND IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. I'LL SAY BRENDA SQUALANTE, HAVEN CIRCLE, BUT I'M USING MARK SCHULTE'S TIME. BUT I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE NAMES THAT YOU JUST READ OFF. I SPOKE WITH SOME OF THEM AS WELL AFTER THE MEETING. THEY WERE READ OFF LAST WEEK. AND THE MAIN REASON A LOT OF THEM ARE IN FAVOR, IT'S FINANCES. THEY'RE YOUNG. THEY'RE MAKING MONEY. THEY'RE A PART OF THE BUSINESS. THEY'RE HELPING THE DEVELOPER IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S ABOUT MAKING MONEY. BUT THEY ALSO REITERATED TO ME, BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN THE SAME AREA, THEY ADDRESSED THE BREEZEWAY PROBLEM. THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S A PROBLEM ALONG THERE THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR WITH THE PUBLIC BACKUP AND THE TRAFFIC ISSUE. SO, YES, THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY. THEY HAVE A FAMILY TO FEED. THEY ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S A PROBLEM. BREEZEWAY IS A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO ADD TO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6C? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 60. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS OR DIRECTOR KILLOUGH ON ANYTHING WE'VE HEARD? MY TWO CENTS ON IT. I THINK I LIKED OPTION TWO, THE NEW OPTION, THE BEST. MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED AS FAR AS WHAT THE CHANGES ARE FROM WHAT WE SAW LAST MEETING. AND THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PUBLIC ROAD, THE TREES, THE EASEMENTS AND ALL THAT. EVEN THOUGH WE JUST GOT IT, I THINK OPTION TWO IS THE BEST OPTION OF THE THREE, AND I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. BUT AGAIN, I'LL GO AROUND THE COUNCIL DICE. LET'S START GOING. I HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE ATTORNEY. COUNCIL MEMBER FOX STARTED THIS OFF BY SAYING WE JUST GOT THIS AND WE'D HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. THE FIRST GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE HAD A REALLY GOOD POINT, IS THAT HE DID NOT GET TO SEE THIS. THE AGENDA WAS POSTED. BUT THIS PLAN WASN'T INCLUDED. ONE OF THE PLANS IS NOT [01:50:01] INCLUDED THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. IS THAT AN AGENDA PROBLEM? NO. CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT FOR ME? SO, COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER ANY INFORMATION THAT'S PRESENTED TO YOU THIS EVENING. AS MR. FOX INDICATED, YOU MAKE CHANGES ON THE FLY THAT ARE NOT IN YOUR PACKET, AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S PERMITTED. THE PUBLIC IS HERE TONIGHT AND HAS THE RIGHT TO ASSIST YOU. IT'S BEEN HERE TONIGHT. COUNCIL IS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IN MAKING YOUR DECISION. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT OR ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION. FOR THE APPLICANT OR DENNIS? DENNIS. OKAY, DIRECTOR KILO. I'M TRYING TO SAY DENNIS OR MR. KILO OR DIRECTOR KILO. JUST TO CLARIFY, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS. THREE DIFFERENT ZONINGS CURRENTLY, IS THAT CORRECT? THE SOUTH FINALEE SIDE HAS SF-20 AND IT HAS CS, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. IT HAS SF-20, WHAT IS MAKING UP LOTS 1 AND 02, ARE CURRENTLY PLATTED SF-28 ZONE PROPERTIES. THE MAJORITY OF LOTS 3, 4, 5, AND A PORTION OF 6 ARE COMMUNITY SERVICE. AND THEN THAT TRIANGULAR AREA THAT PREVIOUSLY ALIGNED WITH THE OLD CARROLL AVENUE RETAINS OUR RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING THAT WAS PART OF THE VERSAILLES DEVELOPMENT. CARROLL AVENUE WAS REALIGNED. THAT WAS QUICK-CLAIMED OR DEEDED OVER TO THE CHURCH. IN THE FUTURE, LANEY'S PLAN FOR THAT AREA, SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS LOCATION, SAYS WHAT? MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO BY RIGHT, THEN, THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE ALLOWED TO PUT AN SF-20? NOT NECESSARILY BY RIGHT. YOU ARE LEGISLATING ZONING TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ON THE PROPERTY. THE MEDIUM DENSITY. LAND USE CATEGORY SUPPORTS A DECISION THAT COULD BE MADE BY LEGISLATING SF-20A ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IF YOU FIND EVERYTHING APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, CAL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, GARY. I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE OF MY OPENING COMMENTS, AND WHILE I STILL REGRET THAT WE... I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS WITH NO TIME AND NO ANALYSIS FROM STAFF. AFTER GATHERING THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE HEARD, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT I BELIEVE IS OPTION TWO. I'M REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT THE OPTIONS. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I THINK THAT WE'RE MAKING ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS SINCE THE LAST MEETING THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE A MARKED IMPROVEMENT IN DRAINAGE, WHICH I THINK WAS ONE OF THE LARGEST CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD. WE ASKED YOU TO ADDRESS... SCREENING FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST, IT SEEMS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. SO, AND WE'VE GOT OUR 31-FOOT PUBLIC ROAD, AND I CAN LIVE WITH, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, I CAN LIVE WITH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EAST AND THE WEST. RIGHT AWAY. FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF OPTION TWO. I SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENTS. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT THE THE DRAINAGE IS IN PUBLIC EASEMENT. IF IT FAILS, IF THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH IT, THE COST BORNE BY SIX HOMES IS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD. POTENTIALLY GIVE A LAWSUIT WITH THESE HOMEOWNERS TO NOT FIX IT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD FROM DIRECTOR KEEWELL WAS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN EASEMENT, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH CLAY ON, BUT IF YOU WANT TO CLARIFY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE GOOD. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO CLARIFY. THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY, A PORTION OF THAT. IF THERE IS A DRAINAGE STRUCTURE IN THAT FACILITY THAT MEETS ALL OF THE CITY'S STANDARDS AS PART OF THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, [01:55:01] THAT COULD BE ACCEPTED AND MAINTAINED BY THE CITY. THE QUESTION HERE IN THIS SCENARIO IS FROM OUR... TYPICAL POLICIES REGARDING DETENTION STRUCTURES, IF THAT IS ALSO SERVING AS A DETENTION, A QUESTION WOULD BE RAISED IN THE REVIEW OF THOSE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE DETENTION COMPONENT OF THOSE DRAINAGE STRUCTURES MUST BE MAINTAINED BY AN OWNER'S ASSOCIATION OR A PRIVATE ENTITY. FOR THAT REASON, I THINK WE WOULD NEED, WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRED AS THIS MOVES FORWARD, A MORE DETAILED CONSTRUCTION PLAN AS TO WHAT THE CONSISTENCY OF THAT STORM STRUCTURE IS AND WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD OR COULD ACCEPT AND HOW WE MANAGE OUR POLICIES ON DETENTION STRUCTURES. GENE, IS THAT LIKE ON NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE'S RETENTION OR DETENTION PLAN, THOSE HOMEOWNERS? AND OR THE HOA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS THERE, SO THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF... THAT IS TYPICALLY TRUE, AND WHAT THEY'RE DESIGNING IS A STORMWATER PIPE SYSTEM THAT ALSO MANAGES DETENTION. AND IT MAY BE VERY TRUE THAT FOR THAT REASON ALONE, BASED ON HOW WE MANAGE POLICIES ON THAT, THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO CREATE AN OWNER'S ASSOCIATION TO POTENTIALLY MAINTAIN THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE... PART OF THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT IT WOULD BE EXECUTED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. SO THAT'S, THERE WE GO, MY QUESTION IS, DO WE AS A COUNCIL REQUIRE THERE TO BE AN HOA THAT MAINTAINS SOME KIND OF FUND OR SOMETHING FOR MAINTENANCE OF? I BELIEVE YOU COULD, AND WITH CONCURRENCE OF THE ATTORNEY AS PART OF CONDITION ON THIS, IN CONSIDERATION OF THIS, ACCEPTING THE PROPOSED. DRAINAGE DESIGN PLAN AND NOTING THAT WITH FINAL CLADDING OF THIS PROPERTY AND PRIOR TO CONVEYANCE A LOT OF HOA BE PUT IN PLACE TO ENSURE MAINTENANCE OF ANY DETENTION STRUCTURE OR OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD BE PLACED UNDER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT HOA. MY CONCERN, MY CONCERN IF WE MAKE IT A PUBLIC PIECE IS NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SIX HOUSES. IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND CITY FUNDS FIXING THAT DRAINAGE PIECE. AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S MY CONCERN. I'M NOT MARRIED TO IT, BUT THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD DETERMINE WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I MEAN, COUNCIL MEMBER CHARLOTTE IS CORRECT. TYPICALLY, THE HOA THING IS A PRIVATE-SOURCED CITY THING, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO STRUGGLING WITH THESE ISSUES. SO WE PUT IT IN THE MOTION THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN HOA WITH A RESERVE FUND FOR MAINTENANCE OF THAT. HOW DO WE GO ABOUT THAT? YEAH, I THINK IF THAT'S HOW THE COUNCIL FEELS IT SHOULD BE DONE TO ENSURE THAT TAKES PLACE, PUTTING A CONDITION WITH THE ZONING. THAT WOULD MAKE IT ENFORCEABLE THROUGH PLUMBNARY AND FINAL PLATTING ON THIS PROPERTY AND THEN DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE DONE WITH CONSTRUCTION PLANS. WELL, DENNIS, I MEAN, THE CURRENT STORMWATER CODES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW, DON'T WE REQUIRE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR RETENTION STRUCTURES, NOT JUST RETENTION PONDS, BUT EVEN IN A STRUCTURE SUCH AS THIS? SO IT WOULD BE NORMAL FOR US TO REQUIRE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITY? I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT, BUT TO CONFIRM THAT, I'LL TALK TO OUR CITY ENGINEER WHO ACTUALLY OVERSEAS, I WAS TAKING THAT. COUNCILMEMBER TACKER, YOU'RE CORRECT. WE DO REQUIRE A POST-CONSTRUCTION STORMWATER MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING WITH THE UNDERGROUND DETENTION, I DO FORESEE WITHOUT HAVING REVIEWED ANY OF THIS AND KNOWING WHETHER IT'S FEASIBLE, THERE WOULD BE SOME COMPONENTS OF THIS SYSTEM THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED. THE QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SAY THEY'RE DOING UNDERGROUND... DETENTION WITH PRECAST BOX CULVERTS, THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT WE WOULD TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE OF THOSE BECAUSE THOSE ARE MORE READILY EASILY MAINTAINED AND AVAILABLE FOR STAFF TO JET OUT. AND THEN ALSO IF THERE'S REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, THAT TYPE OF MATERIAL IS [02:00:01] READILY AVAILABLE. RIGHT. AND THEN IT WOULD BE NAILED DOWN IN THE SITE PLAN THAT WOULD COME BEFORE US IN A FEW MONTHS OR HOWEVER LONG IT WOULD BE. AND WITH THAT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, IT'S NOT STRICTLY... JUST FOR RETENTION OR DETENTION PONDS. IT WOULD BE FOR ANY TYPE OF CONTROL STRUCTURE, WHICH THEN WOULD ALLOW THE CITY THE ABILITY TO ANNUALLY INSPECT IT AND ENFORCE TO THE, WHETHER IT'S AN HOA OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF, THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE ACTUALLY WHATEVER IT FEELS NEEDS TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT THING CLEAN, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. ANYTHING ELSE? JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, I APOLOGIZE. I'M SOMEWHAT REPETITIVE, BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND. THEY WERE DEDICATING RIGHT-OF-WAY INSTEAD OF THE PRIVATE EASEMENT. DOES THAT CHANGE ANY OF THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD? NO, NO, IT WOULD NOT. AND AS CITY ENGINEER, AGAIN, STATED, THERE ARE CERTAIN INSTANCES, DEPENDING ON THE MATERIAL AND THE DESIGN OF THIS, THAT THE CITY WOULD ACCEPT IT AND WOULD. NOT HAVE THE NEED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAINTAIN IT IF IT FULLY MET OUR STANDARDS, WAS OF A DURABLE, LONG-LASTING MATERIAL THAT COULD BE EASILY, AS HE SAID, JETTED OR REPAIRED. IF IT IS SOME OTHER TYPE OF DESIGN AND MATERIAL THAT, IN THEIR VIEW, DOESN'T MEET THE HIGH STANDARD THAT THEY WOULD REQUIRE IN ORDER TO ACCEPT IT, THEN UNDER THAT SCENARIO, WE WOULD ONLY PERMIT THAT IF IT WERE. PRIVATELY MAINTAINED BY THE OWNERS ASSOCIATION OR LAND OWNER, HOWEVER THAT WERE THE LAND. HAVE WE COMPELLED THEM THROUGH THIS TO BUILD A STRUCTURE TO THE STANDARDS THAT THE CITY WOULD TAKE OWNERSHIP? I BELIEVE WE WOULD PREFER TO COMPEL THEM TO DO THAT. AT THIS POINT OR AT SITE PLAN? I THINK AT THIS POINT. HAVING THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEIR ABILITY TO COMMIT TO THAT AND MAKING IT PART OF THE ZONING ACTION, THAT WHATEVER STORM SYSTEM AND DETENTION STRUCTURE THEY PUT IN WOULD MEET THE CITY'S STANDARDS IN ORDER TO BE ACCEPTED AND MAINTAINED BY THE CITY, THAT WOULD SET A PRETTY CLEAR STANDARD THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MET IN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. IF THIS ITEM IS APPROVED, THE NEXT ITEM IS YOU WOULD... BE REQUIRED TO SEE AND GRANT REVIEW AND PRESUME GRANT APPROVAL ON WOULD BE A PRELIMINARY PLOT FOR THIS AND THEN A PLOT REVISION FOR THE PROPERTY GIVEN THAT TWO OF THESE LOTS ARE CURRENTLY CURRENTLY PLOTTED. SO JUST JUST SO YOU KNOW THE NEXT TWO ITEMS YOU WOULD. SEE THAT AND BY THAT TIME WE WOULD HAVE MORE REFINED CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS OR FINALIZED DESIGN PLANS ON THE DRAINAGE. I SHARE COUNCILMAN REYNOLDS' CONCERN OF SETTLING SIX HOMEOWNERS WOULD BE A SYSTEM THAT FAILS IF WE GO OVER. RANDY, I SAW YOU TAKING NOTES AS THE ONE WHO WILL BE MAKING THE MOTION. DID YOU WANT TO MAYBE THROW THAT OUT THERE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR SOME COMMENTS ON WHETHER THE LANGUAGE... YOU WERE WRITING DOWN MIGHT COVER THE, PERHAPS THE MOTION IN COVERING THAT ISSUE? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. BASICALLY THE VARIANCES WE HAVE ARE... DO WE STILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT 3 AND 4? WOULD 4 BE LESS THAN 30,000 SQUARE FEET OR IS THAT VARIANCE GONE NOW? THAT OPTION IS GONE. THE ONLY VARIANCE THAT REMAINS IS ALLOWING A 31-FOOT WIDE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION. NINE AND A HALF FOOT EASEMENT ON EITHER SIDE, PEDESTRIAN UTILITY EASEMENT ON EITHER SIDE. AND THEN THE TREE VARIANCE? AND THEN THE TREE VARIANCE AND IF YOU'RE... IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MITIGATION PLAN THE APPLICANTS PRESENTED, ACCEPTING THE MITIGATION PLAN AS PRESENTED. IS MY MATH RIGHT? THE NEW AVERAGE LOSS IS $22,435. I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. THE SYSTEM IS IMPLEMENTED BY PLAN. WITH CONSTRUCTION PLANS, YEAH, YOU WOULD NOT SEE A SITE PLAN ON THIS. IT WOULD BE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTION PLANS. THAT CONSTRUCTION, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THAT? DO WE NEED [02:05:02] TO CLARIFY WHO'S GOING TO CARE FOR THIS BUFFER YARD? YEAH, THE HOA, IS THERE GOING TO BE A HOA IN THIS? WITHOUT THAT? DO WE WANT TO REQUIRE AN HOA? OR CAN ONE COME UP AND ADDRESS THAT? OR MAYBE WE CAN JUST SAY SOME GOVERNING DOCUMENT. YEAH, THE BUMPER YARD ON THE FAR WEST SIDE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? IS THAT WEST OR SOUTH? I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTH SIDE. THE WEST SIDE IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE BLOCK 3. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT, YEAH, THE SOUTH SIDE. YEAH, THE ATA WOULD BE. THE ATA WOULD BE. THAT'S TRUE. OKAY. YOU WILL HAVE AN H-O-A PERIOD. YES. SO THE H-O-A WOULD ALSO MAINTAIN THE WEST SIDE WITH THE TREES, I MEAN, BECAUSE THOSE TREES COULD DIE. YEAH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OWNER OF ONE. THE OTHER QUESTION IS I DON'T THINK IT'S PART OF THIS MOTION, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE BREEZEWAY TRAFFIC. AND CAN WE BE A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE IN... POLICING WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO OTHER CONSTITUENTS SINCE OUR LAST MEETING ABOUT YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT TURN IF YOU'RE GOING DOWN. SO CHIEF CASEY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FOR YOU OR HOW WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS IN THE FUTURE WHERE WE MAYBE PUT SOME TEETH INTO WHAT IS POSTED AND MAYBE PATROL IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND GET THOSE PEOPLE IN LINE. CHIEF CASEY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? WHAT ARE ANY COMPLAINTS WE'VE HAD? WITH RESPECT TO BREE'S LANE TO THIS POINT, WHAT CAN BE DONE GOING FORWARD? CAN I AMEND THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST COMPLAINTS. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S FORMAL COMPLAINTS. BECAUSE THE PERSON I TALKED TO JUST SAYS THEY EXPERIENCE IT. THEY WOULD NEVER CALL YOU ABOUT IT. SO I THINK IT'S HAPPENING EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT GIVING COMPLAINTS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SURE, IT DOES. SO WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY FORMAL COMPLAINTS RELATED TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA. BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT AREA EXPERIENCES SOME ISSUES DURING PEAK TIMES. PRIMARILY DURING PICKUP TIME ON BREEZEWAY AND ON SOUTH CARROLL. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO PERIODICALLY IS WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND SPECIFIC CAMPUSES THAT EXPERIENCE SOME BACKUP THAT BACKS UP ONTO PUBLIC ROADWAYS. SOME OF THOSE CAMPUSES HAVE SMALLER FOOTPRINT, AND SO TRYING TO MOVE A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC ON CAMPUS, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'VE GOT PARENTS THAT SHOW UP SOMETIMES 45 MINUTES EARLY TO PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN. CAN BE QUITE CHALLENGING. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING THAT. WE DO MONITOR THAT AREA, BOTH THE SRO AND OUR TRAFFIC UNITS, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE BEGINNING OF SCHOOL. THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF SCHOOL EACH YEAR ARE THE PROBLEM AREAS. AS PEOPLE COME BACK FROM SUMMER BREAK, THEY RE-ACCLIMATE THEMSELVES TO THAT. BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF JUST CONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT. AND I THINK THAT THE ISSUE THAT WE RUN INTO IS THE PARENTS STILL NEED TO PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN. IF WE MOVE THEM FROM ONE AREA, THEY THEN MOVE TO ANOTHER AREA, IMPACTING OTHER AREAS ALONG THE WAY. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY PAY MORE ATTENTION TO IT. THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE'LL LOOK AT REEVALUATING CLOSER TO THE BEGINNING OF SCHOOL YEAR. IT'S NEXT YEAR TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE MISSED THUS FAR THAT WOULD HELP MOVE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC OFF THE ROADWAY. AND CERTAINLY ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DO IS COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CAMPUS, THE SCHOOL PRINCIPALS AT THOSE CAMPUSES, TO SEE IF THEY CAN HELP US WITH MESSAGING. AND PUTTING OUT TO THE PARENTS THAT WE REALLY NEED THEM TO NOT PARK IN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE NO PARKING ZONES. AND I THINK THE FIRST TWO WEEKS DOES SET. NICE TONE, BUT I ALSO THINK PARENTS AND EXPERIENCING THIS AS A PARENT, YOU KNOW AFTER THE FIRST TWO WEEKS THAT YOU'RE HOME FREE AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. SO I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE CONSISTENT AND ALSO MAYBE TICKETING. IF THEY'RE PARKING WHERE THERE'S NO PARKING, I MEAN THERE'S NO SENSE HAVING SIGNS IF WE'RE NOT ENFORCING IT. AND THAT MESSAGE WILL GET OUT REAL QUICK. SO ANYWAY, I'M HOPING WE WILL EVALUATE IT. ENFORCE IT AND STAY ON IT, PLEASE. THANK YOU. SO THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS AND IN THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, THE PRIMARY ONES WERE DRAINAGE AND TRAFFIC. MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE BORDER BETWEEN THEM ON THE WEST SIDE. I DO LIKE HOW THE DEVELOPER HAS LOWERED THAT GRADE DOWN TO FOUR FEET. IT WILL BE LESS OVERBEARING TO THE NEIGHBORS ON THE WEST SIDE. WITH THAT AND WITH THE TREES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN ALONG THE EDGE. BUT THE HOA, I THINK, IS SOMETHING THAT I DEFINITELY WOULD WANT AS WELL TO HANDLE ANY ISSUES, PLUS THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. I MEAN, THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT ALONE IS GOING TO PRETTY MUCH REQUIRE US HAVING SOME TYPE OF HOA. SO JUST THE TWO, THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD [02:10:01] FROM FOLKS ON DRAINAGE AND TRAFFIC. SO I THINK THE DRAINAGE IS HANDLED. AND LOOKING AT IT, I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE TO THE DEVELOPER TO BEING WILLING TO WORK ON. MOVING AS MUCH, IF NOT ALL, WATER FROM THAT WEST SIDE, OFF THAT WEST SIDE, TO HEAR NEIGHBORS SAY THAT THEIR HOUSE HAS BEEN FLOODED THREE TIMES, YOU KNOW, WITH MUD IN THEIR KITCHEN. TO ME, THAT'S LIKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S LIKE, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS, LET'S FIX IT, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE AT IT. SO I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER WORKING TO MOVE EVERYTHING SO THAT IT SLOPES EAST. I'M ALSO APPRECIATIVE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT MAKING SURE THAT ANY WATER RUNOFF FROM DOWNSPOUTS, POOLS, POOL DECKINGS, AND... DRIVEWAYS WILL ALSO BE DIRECTED EAST. AND THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON IT. SO I THINK DRAINAGE IS PRETTY MUCH HANDLED. I DON'T SEE THE NEIGHBORS HAVING MUCH OF AN ISSUE FROM THAT ONE LITTLE STRIP AS LONG AS EVERYTHING ELSE IS DIRECTED EAST. AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES ON PARKING, LET'S BE CLEAR. THERE'S A CHURCH THERE RIGHT NOW WITH A BIG PARKING LOT. SO IF PEOPLE WANTED TO PARK SOMEWHERE TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS, THEY DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT PARKING ON THIS. STREET. THEY COULD ALL PARK IN THE 75-CAR PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW. AND SO WHATEVER WE'RE HAVING WITH PARKING, IT'S ALREADY THERE. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, WE WOULD ALREADY BE SEEING THAT OVER THERE. SO I JUST DON'T SEE THAT. WHAT I SEE WHEN I LOOK AT AN AREA IS A PARKING LOT THAT HOLDS 75 CARS. I SEE THE EQUIVALENT REALLY OF FOUR HOUSES. AT MOST, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR CARS APIECE, WHICH IS 16 CARS. SO I JUST DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. ADDITIONALLY, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES, YOU KNOW, THE CHURCH, CS, I MEAN, THEY CAN HAVE A DAYCARE IN THERE. THEY MAY HAVE A DAYCARE IN THERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TYPE OF SERVICES. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CARS COMING OUT OF THERE ALL THE TIME. AND THEN, FRANKLY, THE BREEZEWAY ISSUES IS NOT REALLY THE FUTURE OWNERS OF THESE PROPERTIES PROBLEM. THAT IS A CITY THING THAT WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING. SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CHARLOTTE, FOR POINTING THAT OUT. AND THEN LAST WAS JUST THE TRAFFIC. TREES. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ON REPLACING THE TREES TO GET US UP TO THE NUMBER THAT WE SHOULD HAVE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO I'M GOOD WITH THE SAME OPTION TOO. FROM TIM ROBBINS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM 6C? SURE. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM 6C ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-846-ZA26. DASH 0022 SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR BREEZEWAY AT CARROLL. ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACK 1A05 JW HEALTH SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 803 IN LOTS 02, 25 AND 26, OW NIGHT NUMBER 89 EDITION AND LOCATED AT 940 SOUTH CARROLL AND 1000 THROUGH 1040 BREEZEWAY. SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 22, 2026. DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER 2 DATED APRIL 17. 2026 WE ARE APPROVING PLAN OPTION TWO TONIGHT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH AN APPROXIMATE AVERAGE LOT AREA OF 22,435 SQUARE FEET. CONSTRUCTION OF A FULL PUBLIC STREET BUILT THE CITY STANDARD THAT'S 31 FEET IN RIGHT-OF-WAY WIDTH WITH A NINE-FOOT EASEMENT ON EACH SIDE FOR PEDESTRIAN AND UTILITY. UTILIZATION, THERE WILL BE A FORMATION OF AN HOA FOR THIS, FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF BOTH THE STORM DRAINAGE AND THE... LANDSCAPING. WHEN IT COMES TO THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT'S IMPLEMENTED IT WILL MEET THE CITY STANDARDS AT CONSTRUCTION AND WE WILL APPROVE THE VARIANCE TO THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE TO REDUCE THE TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENT FROM 70% TO 45% AND SUBJECT TO THE MITIGATION PLAN PRESENTED. WE HAVE A MOTION DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES ON 6C. THAT MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE. ITEM 6C IS APPROVED. COUNCIL, DO WE NEED ANY KIND OF DRINK OR BATHROOM BREAK BEFORE WE GET ON TO THE REST OF THE AGENDA? YES. WE ALREADY LOST ONE, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK. [6.A. Ordinance No. 480-844, ZA26-0015, 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Concept Plan for 1275 and 1285 Shady Oaks Drive, on property described as Lots 2B2AR and 2B1, Block 1, Burnett Acres Addition and located at 1275 and 1285 Shady Oaks Drive, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: “SF-1A” Single Family Residential District and “SF-2” Single Family Residential District. Requested Zoning: “SF-1A” Single Family Residential District and “SF-2” Single Family Residential District. SPIN Neighborhood #5. PUBLIC HEARING ] ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO OUR... REGULAR AGENDA AND GO BACK IN ORDER. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH 6A, ORDER NUMBER 480-844, CASE NUMBER ZA26-0015. SECOND READING, ZONING CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR 1275 AND 1285 SHADY OAKS DRIVE. COUNCIL, WE HAVE THAT [02:15:01] ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA AT FIRST READING. APPROVED TWO LOTS BEFORE, TWO LOTS NOW ON A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF PROPERTY, NINE ACRES. DO WE NEED A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS OR DO YOU ALL? COMFORTABLE JUST GOING TO THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION? APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. WE'LL JUST SKIP PAST YOU ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO SKIP AHEAD THEN TO THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION ON 6A. AGAIN, IF YOU COULD SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN WALK US QUICKLY THROUGH THIS AND MAYBE NOT TALK US OUT OF IT. GREAT PRESENTATION. HAVE A SEAT. THIS SHOULD BE VERY SIMPLE. IT'S ALMOST NINE AND A HALF ACRES. CURRENTLY, IT'S THE SF1A. FOUR ACRES IS SF2A. SEE, THE SF2 IS REALLY A UD. THESE FAMILIES, THEY WANT TO BUILD A... AN ACRE FOR A MAN THAT WAS JUST 15 TO GIVE UP. FOR AN ANSWER OF COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, SIR. THIS IS THE SECOND READING ON 6A, AND IT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6A FOR ANYONE TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK. FIRST, I HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS, AND THEN WE'LL GET TO ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT FORM IS WES TAKABANA AT 1245 HAVEN CIRCLE. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM. AND THE CITY SENT OUT 29 PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS. ON THIS ITEM 6A, WE HAVE TWO RESPONSES. FIRST FROM RUSSELL AND ROSE MARYLAND AT 510 WEST HIGHLAND. IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, RAY MULHOLLAND AT 1295 SHADY OAKS. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING 6A? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 6A. MAYOR PRO TEM ROBBINS, LET'S DO A MOTION ON 6A. YES, MR. MAYOR, I MOTION WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-844-CA26-0015, SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR 1275 AND 1285 SHADY OAKS DRIVE ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOTS 2B2AR AND 2B1 BLOCK 1 BURNETT ACRES EDITION AND LOCATED AT 1275 AND 1285 SHADY OAKS DRIVE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS. SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 22, 2026, THE CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED APRIL 2, 2026, AN IMPROVEMENT IN CREATION OF ONE SF1A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT AND ONE SF2 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE A MOTION ON 6A. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES ON 6A. [6.B. Ordinance No. 480-845, ZA26-0020, 2nd Reading, Zoning Change and Concept Plan for 2056 N. Kimball Avenue on property described as Lot 67, F. Throop No. 1511 Addition. Current Zoning: “AG” Agricultural District. Requested Zoning: “SF-1A” Single Family Residential District. Neighborhood #4. PUBLIC HEARING ] THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0. ITEM 6A IS APPROVED. NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 6B, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-845, CASE NUMBER Z826-0020, SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR 2056 NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE. LIKE THE PRIOR ITEM, WE HAVE THIS ON CONSENT ON FIRST READING. COUNSEL, DO YOU WANT A STAFF PRESENTATION ON 6B, OR DO YOU WANT TO GO RIGHT TO THE APPLICANT? [02:20:01] FRANCES SAYS APPLICANT. I AGREE. LET'S GO WITH DIRECTOR KILLO. YOU'LL GET YOUR CHANCE HERE IN A MINUTE. LET'S GO WITH THE APPLICANT ON 6B. YOU COME ON DOWN. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THEN GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS GEORGE OZA. I'M 233 FOR JUDY LANE. SHOULD I MAKE A LITTLE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE BUDGET, OR IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ALREADY ON THE PROJECT? I'M JUST OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT REGARDING THAT 6B? IT'S NOT A QUESTION, BUT JUST A QUICK COMMENT. I KNOW CURRENTLY THERE'S A GRAVEL DRIVE THAT GOES TO IT. I GUESS THE ONLY ONE COMMENT IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT GRAVEL DRIVE IS UP TO FIRE STANDARDS, MAINTAINED, AND ALL GOOD TO GO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR ME. OKAY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. ITEM 6B IS A... SECOND READING, IT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6B. NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT 18 PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT, AND THERE ARE NO RESPONSES AS OF TODAY. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 6B? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6B. MAYOR PRO TEM ROBBINS, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION ON 6B? YES, MR. MAYOR, I MOTION WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-845-ZA26. 0020 SECOND READING ZONING CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR 2056 NORTH KIMBALL AVENUE. SUBJECTS. STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 22, 2026. CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER 2 DATED APRIL 17, 2026 APPROVING THE ZONING CHANGE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR ONE SF1A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES ON 6B. THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0. [6.D. Resolution No. 26-017, ZA26-0021, Specific Use Permit for electric vehicle charging spaces for Shivers’ Farm on property described as Tracts 1A03 and 1A, James J. West Survey, Abstract No. 1620 and located at 1800 and 1900 N. White Chapel Boulevard, Southlake, Texas. Current Zoning: “ECZ” Employment Center Zoning District. SPIN Neighborhood #3. PUBLIC HEARING] ITEM 6-D IS APPROVED. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF 6-C. WE SPENT A FEW MINUTES ON THAT ONE. LET'S GO AHEAD TO 6-D, WHICH IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-017. CASE NUMBER IS EA26-0021. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING SPACES AT THE SHIVERS FARM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1800 AND 1900 NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD. DIRECTOR KILLETT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE. IT IS MIXED USE ON THE LAND USE PLAN AND IS ZONED ECZ, EMPLOYMENT CENTER ZONING. THIS IS A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS A SPECIFIC LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED FOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS ON WHAT IS IDENTIFIED ON THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AS LOT TWO. AND THERE ARE AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT SPACES APPROVED ON THE SOUTHERN END OF WHAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THEIR OVERALL SITE PLAN AS LOT THREE. THIS DETAIL OF THE AREA SHOWS LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED IN PROXIMITY TO THE EV STATIONS. THIS IS ON LOT TWO. THIS IS THE PLAN FOR LOT 3. THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF TYPICAL TYPE OF CHARGING STATIONS THAT WOULD BE PLACED FOR THESE SPACES. AND SIGNAGE THAT WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE WITH THOSE SPACES. IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR USE BY ANY OF THE SHIVERS FARM EMPLOYEES, CORPORATE VISITORS, AS WELL AS CLIENTS' GUESTS. THEY'RE SHOWN AS DESIGNATED ON THE SITE PLAN AND WILL BE MARKED WITH SIGNAGE THAT MEETS MANUFACTURER'S SPECIFICATIONS. THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THESE STATIONS AND ENSURING THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL, SAFE, AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH CODES. AND GIVEN THE SCOPE AND TIMING OF THE PROJECT, SPECIFIC USE PERMITS UNLESS APPROVED OTHERWISE BY THE CITY COUNCIL REQUIRE THAT A PERMIT BE SUBMITTED AND... CONSTRUCTION OF THE USE COMMENCED WITHIN A SIX-MONTH PERIOD, AND THE APPLICANT IS ASKING THAT THAT SUNSET JUST FOR ISSUANCE OF THE PERMIT BE WEIGHED TO ALLOW THEM TO GET THE PROJECT TO LEVEL OF COMPLETENESS THAT THESE [02:25:02] STATIONS CAN ACTUALLY BE INSTALLED. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 6-0 SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT. GRANTING THAT PROVISION WITH REGARD TO SUNSET ON THE PERMIT AND NOTING THE REQUEST TO BRING ADDITIONAL SCREENING IDEAS TO COUNCIL. WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS ADDRESSED IN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THEY'VE SHOWN TO YOU THIS EVENING, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOUR DETERMINATION. OTHERWISE, THE APPLICANT'S HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT. DENNIS, WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS THAT... THEY TALKED ABOUT AT T&Z WAS ALSO HAVING TRASH RECEPTACLES AVAILABLE BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT ARE TYPICALLY CHARGING THEIR CARS ARE WAITING AROUND AND IT'S A GOOD TIME TO CLEAN YOUR CAR OUT, WHICH I COULD SEE AS HAPPENING, BUT I'M CURIOUS. I ASSUME THE PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT. YES. OKAY. AND THE SCREENING. SURE, YES. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILO? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE APPLICANT HERE. COME ON DOWN. IF YOU COULD START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN MAYBE GO TO THOSE TWO POINTS ABOUT THE SCREENING AND THE GARBAGE. I'M NOT SURE WE NEED A FULL PRESENTATION UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING EXTRA TO ADD, BUT GO AHEAD WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. SOUNDS GOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CHRIS DELLS, KIMLEY WARREN, 13455 MILL ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS. AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WITH PRESENTATION FRYING, GROWING TREES, AND THE END CAPS. AND IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUT IT'S SHOWN ON THE HARDSCAPE PLAN. THERE HAVE BEEN TRASH RECEPTACLES ON LOT 3 AND LOT SHOWN ON THIS PLAN IS A SMALL LITTLE CIRCLE BY THE TREE DENOTING A TRASH CAN AND THE SAME ON THE NORTHERN LOT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. 6D REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 6D. FIRST, THE CITY SENT OUT 39 PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS. ON THIS ITEM 6D, NO RESPONSES YET. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING 6D? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6D. SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6D. MAYOR PROCHEM-ROBBINS, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION ON 6D? YES, MR. MAYOR. I MOTION WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 26-017-ZA26-0021, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING SPACES FOR SHIVERS FARM ON PROPERTY TO DESCRIBE THIS TRACKS 1A03 AND 1A. JAMES J. WEST SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 1620, LOCATED AT 1800 AND 1900 NORTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD, SOUTH LAKE, TEXAS. SUBJECT TO STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 22, 2026. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW NUMBER, SUMMARY NUMBER 3, DATED MAY 22, 2026. NOTING WE ARE WAIVING THE SIX-MONTH SUNSET PROVISION FOR PERMIT ISSUANCE FROM THE TIME OF SUP APPROVAL. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. LET'S CAST YOUR VOTES ON 6B. [Items 6.E. & 6.F.] THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0. ITEM 6-E IS APPROVED. CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE 6-E AND 6-F TOGETHER REGARDING THE NOVUS ACADEMY. 6-E IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-018 CASE NUMBER VA 26-0026 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PORTABLE BUILDINGS FOR THE NOVUS ACADEMY LOCATED AT 2250 EAST CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD. AND 6F IS TO APPROVE AN ENCROACHMENT AND JOINT USE OF THE AGREEMENT FOR STORM SHELTERS WITHIN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT FOR NOVUS ACADEMY LOCATED AT 2250 EAST CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THANK YOU. AGAIN, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS AN AREA OF VIEW OF THE SITE AND THE BUILDING THAT NOVUS ACADEMY IS LOCATED IN. PROPOSED LOCATION FOR THE STORM SHELTERS IS IN THIS VICINITY AND, IF NEEDED IN THE FUTURE, IN THIS VICINITY HERE. THIS PROPERTY IS INDUSTRIAL ON THE LAND USE PLAN AND IT HAS SP1 DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT ZONING ON IT. RIGHT NOW THE SCHOOL IS USING A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION TRAILER SLASH DOUBLING AS A STORM SHELTER. IT MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STORM SHELTER THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE DURING THEIR REMODELING CONSTRUCTION ON THE SITE AND THE TERM OF THAT IS EXPIRING AND HENCE... THEY HAVE NOT FOUND AN INTERIOR SOLUTION THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED STORM SHELTERS FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL THAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE ADOPTED ICC 500 SECTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE. [02:30:03] AND THEY ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PORTABLE BUILDINGS TO BE ADDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE POPULATION. AND OPERATION OF THE SCHOOL. THIS IS A CHART THAT KIND OF SHOWS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND NUMBER OF SCHOOL AND SHELTERS REQUIRED FOR THOSE. EACH OF THE STORM SHELTERS THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED FOR PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION HERE WILL HOUSE ABOUT 64 PEOPLE IN THEM AND FOR CURRENT PRESENT DAY LOAD, THEY COULD MANAGE WITH TWO OF THESE SHELTERS. WHAT THE SCHOOLS ESTIMATED AS THEIR MAXIMUM BUILD OUT WOULD REQUIRE UP TO THREE AND WOULD ALLOW 172 STUDENTS AND TEACHER. AND THEN THE OCCUPANCY OF THE LEASE SPACE THAT THEY HAVE, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY OCCUPY IN THAT WITH ANY. THE SCHOOL POPULATION OR EVENTS IS 320, AND JUST SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME BACK WITH THIS SHOULD THE SCHOOL GROW OR SOME OF THEIR OPERATIONS CHANGE A BIT, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED UP TO FIVE POTENTIALLY FOR THEM TO HAVE ENTITLEMENT TO SHOULD THEY NEED IT AND HAVE IDENTIFIED LOCATION ON THE SITE WHERE THOSE CAN BE PLACED. THIS IS AN EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS WHERE INITIAL THREE WOULD GO AND AREA THEY WOULD CONSUME. A FOURTH COULD BE ADDED IN THIS SECTION SHOULD THEIR STUDENT BASE AND OPERATION GROW. AND THEN FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIFTH ELEMENT, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THIS AREA AND I THINK THEY WOULD LIKELY... PUT IT OVER IN THIS CORNER, BUT THIS IS JUST THE OVERALL IDENTIFIED AREA WHERE THE POTENTIAL FUTURE ONE COULD GO. AND WITH THE ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT AREA, THESE ARE THE TWO AREAS THAT THE ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT COVERS. AND I WILL CLARIFY THAT SOME STAFF REPORT AS WELL THAT THERE IS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, 10 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT WAS DEDICATED BY THE PLOT IN THIS AREA. THAT HOWEVER IS A PRIVATELY MAINTAINED STORM DRAIN LINE. IT'S UNDERGROUND AND UNDER PAVEMENT. AND IF THERE WERE EVER REPAIRS NEED, THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE THEY THEY COULD BE UNANCHORED. TEMPORARILY REMOVED OUT OF THE WAY TO DEAL WITH ANY REPAIR OR DAMAGE IF THAT EVER BECAME AN ISSUE. THIS IS A TYPICAL EXHIBIT OF THE TYPE OF STORM SHELTER THEY'RE PURCHASING. THEY'VE AGREED TO PAINT AND MATCH UP THE EXISTING PAINT COVER. COLOR OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. IT WOULD NOT HAVE THE BRAND NAME ON THE, ON THE, STORM SHELTER ITSELF AND WITH SOME CLARIFICATION TODAY THERE WAS POTENTIAL QUESTIONS ON ANY VENTILATION AND AIR CONDITIONING OR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT REQUIRED FOR THESE AND THESE THIS TYPE OF STORM SHELTER IS SOLELY VENTILATED IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT MOUNTED TO OR ON TOP OF THE THIS IS JUST A TYPICAL EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF SCREENING THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AROUND EACH SIDE OF THE STORM SHELTER ALONG THE NORTHERN SIDE AND THEN THE TWO CORNERS WHERE THE SHELTER TERMINATES TO SHIELD THEM. THIS IS ONLY A SIX FOOT EXAMPLE. THE STORM SHELTERS ARE EIGHT FOOT HIGH AND THEY'RE PROPOSING AN EIGHT FOOT HIGH. FENCE THAT SURROUND THOSE. AND THIS IS A DETAIL OF THAT AND WHERE THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED AND PLACED. THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING ADDING SOME LANDSCAPE MATERIAL [02:35:01] ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS TO FURTHER BREAK UP THE VIEW AND BUFFER THIS FROM THE ADJOINING PROPERTY. TECHNICAL APPROVAL OF A PORTABLE BUILDING. IT IS ON A TEMPORARY BASIS AND TYPICALLY IN THE SUP ORDINANCE IT'S LIMITED TO THREE YEARS, BUT UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT STORM SHELTERS BE PERMITTED TO REMAIN FOR THE DURATION OF NOVUS ACADEMY'S OCCUPANCY OF THIS SPACE AND AS A PRINCIPAL USE OF THE BUILDING. AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED... APPROVAL 6-0, GRANTING THE REQUESTED VARIANCE TO ALLOW THAT, AND LIMITING IT TO WHAT THE TERM OF THEIR LEASE IS RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS 11 YEARS, AND THEN ADDING TO THAT ANY ADDITIONAL LEASE EXTENSIONS. WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES FROM ANYONE IN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE... ...ENCROACHMENT AND POINT USE AGREEMENT AND THIS EXHIBIT ALSO IDENTIFIES THOSE AREAS THAT THE AGREEMENT PERTAINS TO. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. APPLICANTS HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? DENNIS, DO THESE CAUSE ANY ISSUES WITH PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS LOCATION? NO, THEY DO NOT. IN EVALUATING THE PARKING, I THINK OUR REPORT IDENTIFIED 113 SPACES EXISTING ON SITE. WE JUST RECOUNTED TODAY, AND WE ACTUALLY COUNTED 114 THERE, SO MAY HAVE MISSED ONE ON THE SITE PLAN. THE TWO OF THE UNITS, EACH OF THE TWO UNITS TAKE UP, AND IT CAN BE A SINGLE UNIT OR A DOUBLE. THE ELONGATED ADJACENT UNITS TAKE UP FIVE PARKING SPACES, SO TO GO TO THE MAXIMUM OF THE FIVE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY TAKE 15 PARKING SPACES OFFLINE. AND THE SCHOOL PARKS AT A RATIO BASED ON AN ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL OR JUNIOR HIGH. PARKING RATIO. IT'S ONE SPACE PER TEACHING STATION OR CLASSROOM. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY ASSEMBLY AREA IN THE BUILDING, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY EVEN OVERLAP WHAT REQUIRES FOR THE CLASSROOM, IT REQUIRES ONE SPACE PER EACH FOUR SEATS IN THE ASSEMBLY AREA. AND IN EVALUATING THIS, IF THEY GO TO THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY THAT THEY HAVE UNDER THE LEASE SPACE, 320 PEOPLE IN THAT BUILDING, AND PARKING THAT AT THE HIGHEST RATIO OF ONE TO FOUR, THEY ONLY REQUIRE 80 PARKING SPACES, AND THEY HAVE 99 IF THEY HAVE TO INSTALL ALL FIVE UNITS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS? DIRECTOR KUEHLER HAD A QUICK QUESTION. SO CURRENTLY FOR THE PORTABLE STORM SHELTERS TO MAKE THEM COMPLIANT WITH THE ICC FARMER STANDARD, IT'S REALLY TO ANCHOR THEM DOWN SO THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS ANY OF THE ELEMENTS. I GUESS QUESTION, KIND OF CLARIFICATION, BASED UPON THE OTHER PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN SOUTHLAKE, DO WE HAVE ANY OF THESE PORTABLE STRUCTURES OR ARE ALL OF THEM POST-2015 INTERNAL BUILT WITHIN THE BUILDING ITSELF? THE ONES THAT HAVE HAD TO BE INSTALLED TO DATE HAVE ALL BEEN DICTATED BY NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT OCCURRED ON THOSE BUILDINGS AND THEY ACCOMMODATED THOSE REQUIREMENTS. STORM SHELTERS WITH THEIR NEW CONSTRUCTION. THIS WAS A NEW SCHOOL GOING INTO A USE THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY OPERATED AS A SCHOOL AND THAT OCCUPANCY CHANGE REQUIRED THEM TO COMPLETE STORM SHELTERS. I BELIEVE THEY INVESTIGATED THE ABILITY TO CONSTRUCT THOSE INTERIOR AND IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER NOR FOR A... THAN FROM SOME OF THE THINGS THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE DONE. BUT THEY DID THOROUGHLY AND ARCHITECTURALLY INVESTIGATE THAT DURING THEIR REMODEL. THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY VIABLE, [02:40:01] PEACEABLE SOLUTION FOR THEM. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, DENNIS, IS THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY THEY FEEL LIKE. THEY WOULD EVER HAVE AT THAT SCHOOL IS 172 BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH. CORRECT. YEAH, THEIR ESTIMATE, IF THEY WERE TO GROW THEIR SCHOOL AND JUST OPERATE IT AS THEY CURRENTLY DO, THEY ESTIMATED IT WOULD POTENTIALLY GROW UP TO 172 STUDENTS, TEACHERS. AND WE WENT ON AND LOOKED AT IT FROM AN OCCUPANCY STANDPOINT IN THE CASE THAT PERHAPS SOME UNEXPECTED IN THE FUTURE, THEIR STUDENT POPULATION GROWS. THEY HAD ACTIVITIES THERE FOR WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO ENSURE IN THEIR EMERGENCY PLANS THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING HAVE A PLACE TO GO IF A STORM WARNING COMES IN. AND SO THAT WAS REALLY JUST TO GIVE THEM THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF FLEXIBILITY TO REMAIN IN THAT SPACE. SO. WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK WITH THIS PROCESS. DO WE HAVE, ARE WE WITHIN LEGAL REQUIREMENTS IF WE OKAY THEM FOR, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK THEY'RE AT 64. I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THAT. I THINK THEIR CURRENT POPULATION IS 64, AND THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THIS, AND THEIR MAXIMUM CAPACITY WOULD BE 172 WHEN THEY HOPE TO BE AS FILLED OUT. SO MY QUESTION IS, CAN WE? LIKE YOU GO INTO A BUILDING AND IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, BY FIRE CODE, MAXIMUM CAPACITY IS X. CAN WE NOT HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT WITH THEM RATHER THAN TO FOLLOW THEM UP? YES, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL LOOKED AT THAT VERY CLOSELY, AND THAT'S HOW WE ARE APPLYING THAT IS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY OPERATE AND WITH A DEEPER READ AND INVESTIGATION OF THAT CODE. I BELIEVE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AN EMERGENCY PLAN AND PROVIDE TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WHAT THEIR STUDENT POPULATION IS. AND THEY WILL NEED TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO SELF-REGULATE UNDER THAT SCENARIO. BUT THIS DOES LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF STORM SHELTERS THEY WOULD NEED RATHER THAN THE CITY DOING A CALCULATION ON WHAT THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM WOULD BE. BASED ON WHAT WE FOUND NOW WOULD BE THE 320 AND THE REASON THEIR APPLICATION HAS BEEN STRUCTURED LIKE THIS IS JUST TO PREVENT THEM FROM HAVING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR THIS SHOULD THEY NEED IT AND GROW. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KILO? DIRECTOR KILO, IF THESE WERE DUMPSTERS, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT KIND OF SCREENING MATERIALS WOULD BE REQUIRED? IT WOULD... I BELIEVE IN THIS DISTRICT WOULD STILL BE A 8 FOOT MASONRY SCREEN AROUND THE DUMPSTER. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU DENNIS. SAMPLIKIN HERE. COME ON DOWN. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SURE. MY NAME IS AMY RICHARD, AND OUR ADDRESS IS 2250 EAST CONTINENTAL. I DID WANT TO MAKE ONE CLARIFYING COMMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE 55 STUDENTS AND 17 STAFF MEMBERS, AND AT OUR MAXIMUM CAPACITY WE WOULD HAVE 120 STUDENTS AND ABOUT 25 STAFF MEMBERS, WHICH PUTS US BELOW THAT 170. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER? THANKS TO PRESENT US OR JUST READY FOR SOME QUESTIONS. I DO NOT. I'D LOVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT. IS THAT A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE STORM SHELTERS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY'RE OUTSIDE PORTABLE STORAGE OR PORTABLE BUILDINGS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT? SO IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCY, NATURAL DISASTER EVENT WHERE MINUTES, SECONDS COUNT, CAN YOU SPEAK TO EMERGENCY PLAN ON HOW THE TEACHERS, HOW THE STAFF WILL TRY TO SHEPHERD ALL THE CHILDREN AND YOUNG FOLKS? INTO THE BUILDINGS VERY QUICKLY. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY CLOSE OUTSIDE OUR BACK DOOR, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST 10 FEET OR SO MEASUREMENT. THE REQUIREMENT, I BELIEVE IN THE CODE, SAYS IT HAS TO BE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF YOUR BUILDING. THAT'S WHERE THE STORM SHELTER HAS TO BE LOCATED. AND SO IT'S JUST, WE'LL JUST SHOVEL THEM OUT THERE IN A SINGLE FILE LINE. WE PRACTICE DUNE DRILLS OUT THERE IN THE RED ONE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. [02:45:01] AND IT'S JUST REALLY FAST. JUST GET IN THE STORM SHELTER. GOTCHA. AND I GUESS AS A QUICK FOLLOW-UP QUESTION WITH THE PROPOSED SCREENING WITH THE WALLS AND ALL THAT AND GIVE US STUFF FOR THE FENCING, DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HINDER? THE SPEED FOR THE KIDS AND STUDENTS TO QUICKLY GO TO THE SHELTERS AS WELL? I DON'T THINK SO, NO. IT'S JUST A QUICK OPEN THE GATE AND JUST GO RIGHT IN. GOT SHELTERS. YEAH. I DON'T THINK IT WILL INJURE ANYTHING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO THANK DIRECTOR KILLOUGH AND HIS STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHARLIE FOR COMING OUT TO NOVA'S AND FOR YOU, MAYOR MCCASKILL, JUST FOR YOUR HELP IN THIS. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. 6E REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH 6E AND 6F. FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY SENT OUT 23 PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS, AND WE HAVE NO RESPONSES. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING 6E AND OR 6F? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6E AND 6F. COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE SCREEN. OKAY. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD. I THINK WE SHOULD REQUIRE A NINE-FOOT MASONRY WALL TO SCREEN THESE, TO SURROUND THEM, AS OPPOSED TO A PLASTIC OR WOODEN FENCE. I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD REQUIRE IN THE SAME DISTRICT, IF SOMEBODY PUT A DUMPSTER OUT. AND PLUS, THESE ARE VISIBLE, I BELIEVE, FROM... KIMBALL, THIS IS A REALLY NICE AREA IF YOU DRIVE IT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOT SOME VISUAL APPEAL. IT HAS TO BE 59 FEET BECAUSE THE CONTAINERS ARE 8 FOOT 6 FEET TALL, OR 8 FOOT 6 INCHES TALL. SO IT DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE FENCE, I DON'T THINK, OTHER THAN IT EXISTS. I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. AND I'M WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FOX ON THAT. FENCING, THE ONLY CONCERN I WOULD HAVE WITH THAT WOULD BE IF ONE OF THESE UNITS NEEDED SOME SORT OF MAJOR MAINTENANCE AND NEEDED TO BE MOVED, THEN HOW WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW WOULD YOU GET THAT OUT OR IS THAT, COULD THAT POTENTIALLY BE AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW? BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE SEEN AND JUST THE WAY THEY LOOK. YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION? I'M NOT GOING TO ENGINEER IT, BUT I WOULD THINK. NUMBER ONE, I THINK YOU'D BUY THIS FROM, IF YOU HAD TO, BASICALLY SHIP IT. POTENTIALLY, I WOULD THINK YOU COULD MAKE A PORT, A CAST WALL, IN SUCH A MANNER THAT YOU COULD REMOVE IT IF YOU HAD TO. YOU GO BACK TO THE ONE BEFORE THIS THAT SHOWS THE ACTUAL PICTURE OF THE... THIS WILL BE THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE SHELTERS. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE SHELTERS. THEY WILL BE COMPLETELY BLOCKED BY THIS FENCE. YEAH, I BELIEVE THIS IS A SIX FOOT FENCE. THEIRS IS EIGHT FOOT AND THE HEIGHT OF THE SHELTERS ARE EIGHT FOOT. SO IT SHOULD MATCH THE HEIGHT OF THE SHELTER. AND GIVEN THESE ARE PORTABLE TEMPORARY, I MEAN, IT'S CERTAINLY THE COUNCIL'S CHOICE, NOT A MASONRY. THE MASONRY WALL MAY BE HARD, DIFFICULT TO MANAGE IF THEY DO HAVE TO MOVE OR RELOCATE THESE. I'M PERSONALLY, I MEAN, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF MASONRY WALL. I THINK THAT'S AN OVERKILL FOR THIS. I MEAN, BECAUSE THESE ARE VERY, TO ME, THIS IS AN ATTRACTIVE OPTION, AND I THINK THIS IS AN EXPENSE FOR THESE FOLKS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO PROTECT THE KIDS IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO. AND I HAVE A HARD TIME. THIS IS LESS OF A TREE THAN A 10-FOOT MASONRY FENCE, IN MY OPINION. DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE MATERIALS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THE FENCING? I CALLED THE APP BACK UP, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S A VINYL. YES, IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT MAINTENANCE, WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE. MONITOR BY CITY STAFF AND KEPT UP WITH THAT. I MEAN, ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE OR YOU JUST DON'T LIKE THE LOOK OF IT? I DON'T CARE IF THE LOOK OF IT. NORMALLY A WALL OF THAT LENGTH IN OUR DISTRICT WOULD REQUIRE SOME SORT OF ARTICULATION. [02:50:01] WE THINK MAYBE NOT AN INVESTMENT IF THIS IS SD. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE APPLICANT, THIS IS KIND OF A SELF-IMPOSED ISSUE. THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK WHEN THEY LEASED THE SPACE. AS A RESULT, WE HAVE TO PUT THE STORAGE CONTAINERS UP IN THE PARKING LOT. I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT BELONGS IN THE CELL. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT THAT'S NOT SHOWN IN THIS PICTURE, WELL, WE DO SEE IT IN ANOTHER PICTURE, BUT WE DON'T SEE IT HOW IT WOULD LOOK HERE, IS VEGETATION ALONG THE WALL. THAT WILL MINIMIZE THE LOOK OF JUST A MONOLITHIC WALL. AND MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER VISITING WITH STAFF, WITH THE SCHOOL STAFF, ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, IS THEY FELT LIKE THEY HAD DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND THAT THE FACT THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE THESE WAS BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO OPEN THE SCHOOL, BUT NOT PRIOR TO THAT. AND SO THIS WAS, THEY SAID, HAD THEY KNOWN BEFORE, AND I'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO IT, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE RENTED THE SPACE. SO I FEEL LIKE I'M WILLING TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE GRACE ON THIS BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE. SO, AND WE HAVE SCHOOLS UP THE STREET. I THINK THE SPANISH SCHOOLHOUSE HAS MORE KIDS IN IT. BUT BECAUSE IT'S AN OLDER BUILDING AND THEY'RE NOT NEW ONLINE, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO IT. BUT WE WOULD BE LIABLE IF WE DID NOT REQUIRE THIS. SO, ANYWAY, IT'S JUST A VERY INTERESTING PREDICAMENT THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN. I THINK WE HAVE A SLIDE THAT HAS SOME OF THE TREES. I KNOW THEY'RE NOT IN COLOR. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH, CAN YOU MAYBE GO TO ONE THAT HAS SOMETHING DEPICTING SOME OF THE TREES, KIND OF ALONG ONE SIDE OF THIS AT LEAST? I KNOW IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER. OH, YEAH, THAT ONE. THANK YOU. WE'RE PROPOSING CANOPY TREES AND DECIDUOUS, BUT WE'LL HAVE THEM SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND WITH THE PERMIT FOR INSTALLATION OF THIS, AND LAST YEAR THE ADMINISTRATOR WILL EVALUATE THE PLANT SELECTION AND MEETS OUR RECOMMENDED STANDARDS. THANKS. I'M GOOD WITH, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET UP TO WHAT IS IT EIGHT FEET, EIGHT AND A HALF FEET, UH MATERIALS ARE OKAY WITH THE TREES PROPOSED. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. YOU DON'T THINK? ONE LAST CLARIFICATION QUESTION. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO OPTION TO BASICALLY CREATE THAT STORM SHELTER UP STANDARDS WITHIN THE BUILDING ITSELF, RIGHT? SINCE I'M LOOKING AFTER THE SAFETY OF THE BRAND. YEAH, I MEAN WE'RE VISITING WITH THEM THAT THEY LOOKED AT REDOING THE WHOLE PORTION OF THE BUILDING TO PUT ONE IN. AND THE COST WAS PROHIBITED AND ALSO THE LANDLORD DID NOT WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY RIPPING UP THAT BUILDING. AND THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT. I MEAN BOTH PARTIES DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT. MY UNDERSTANDING, AND THE APPLICANT CAN CLARIFY IF I'M MISSTATING IT, BUT THE LANDLORD DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, AND THE COST WAS PROHIBITIVE. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT, AND A LANDLORD WOULDN'T ALLOW IT. I GUESS ON THE LANDSCAPE, WHEN THE LANDSCAPE, OUR STAFF IS LOOKING AT IT, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE. TO COUNCILMEMBER FOSS'S COMMENTS TO MAKE SURE IT'S COVERED ON ALL SIDES THAT CAN BE SEEN FROM THE ROAD SO WE GET AT LEAST SOME OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER FOSS IS LOOKING TO. SO MAYBE SOME TREES ON EITHER END TO THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT. SUGGESTION. OKAY. CAN WE SEE AN AERIAL OF EXACTLY WHERE THESE WOULD BE? SEE WHERE THEY'D BE VISIBLE FROM CONTINENTAL? LIKE KIMBALL? THESE HERE, POTENTIALLY, AND THEN... SO IT'S BEHIND THE BUILDING AND THE TREES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE IN THAT STRIP OF... CORRECT, YEAH, AND THE BOUNDARY LINE IS KIND OF COVERING SOME [02:55:02] OF THAT STRIP UP. THERE IS SOME VISIBILITY AS YOU PASS THROUGH HERE BETWEEN THIS PLANT GAP AND... THAN THIS PLANT GAP HERE. IF I'M REMEMBERING THIS INTERSECTION, I THINK WHERE KIMBALL AND CONNELL MEET, YOU'RE LOOKING LEFT IF YOU'RE GOING EAST. LOOKING OVER THAT DETENTION POND IS PRETTY ELEGANT, TOO. WITH THE GATING AROUND THE DETENTION, SCREENING OF THE TREES THAT ARE AT THE STREET LEVEL, IN ADDITION TO... I THINK THE ONLY PLACE YOU REALLY SEE IT IS COMING SOUTH ON KIMBALL. JUST SOUTH IN THAT LITTLE WINDOW. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'LL SEE IT ON CONTINENTAL ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING OR THE SOUTHEAST SIDE. IN MY OPINION, THAT'S JUST A GUESS. I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO BE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. RIGHT. THAT'S NOT AN ACTUAL SIGN. I'M AFRAID, REALLY. I DON'T THINK SO. ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A MOTION. WE HAVE TO DO THESE SEPARATELY. MAYOR PRO TEM ROBBINS, LET'S DO A MOTION FIRST OF ALL ON 6E AND THEN WE'LL DO ONE ON 6F. WE'LL START WITH 6E PLEASE. YES, MR. MAYOR. I MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM 6E RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-018ZA26-0026. SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PORTABLE BUILDINGS FOR NOVUS ACADEMY ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 4R7R1 GREEN MEADOWS SUBDIVISION AND LOCATED AT 2250 EAST CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD. STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 22, 2026, AND SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER THREE DATED MAY 22, 2026, APPROVING UP TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE PORTABLE STORM SHELTERS TO BE PLACED ON SITE, WITH A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE STORM SHELTERS TO REMAIN IN PLACE FOR THE DURATION OF NOVUS ACADEMY'S OCCUPANCY AND SHALL BE REMOVED IF NOVUS IS NO LONGER OCCUPYING THE TENANT SPACE. GO AHEAD. IS THE SCREENING ALREADY BUILT INTO THE STAFF REPORT? YES, IT IS, UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING ADDITIONAL YOU WOULD WISH TO ADD TO THAT. IT IS NOTED THAT IT IS 8 FEET TALL, WHICH WOULD MATCH THE BUILDING HEIGHT. IT IS NOTED THAT FOR THE MOTION THAT THE SCREENING OF THE 5-3'S ARE GOING TO BE 8 FEET TALL. AS PRESENTED TONIGHT, THE TREES, DO YOU KNOW THE TREES THAT ARE THE... YEAH, THE FENCE IS EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT, EQUAL IN HEIGHT TO THE BUILDING. GOOD. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 6E. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES ON 6E. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 6-1. 6E IS APPROVED. LET'S TAKE A MOTION ON 6F. YES, MR. MAYOR. MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6F, APPROVE AN ENCROACHMENT AND JOINT USE AGREEMENT FOR STORM SHELTERS WITHIN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT FOR NOVUS ACADEMY LOCATED AT 2250 EAST CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD. SO THAT'S A STAFF MEMO DATED MAY 27, 2026, NOTING APPROVAL OF THE ENCROACHMENT AND JOINT USE AGREEMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE PLACEMENT OF THE STORM SHELTERS WITHIN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT AS IT GOES AHEAD. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 6F. DO WE HAVE A [6.G. Resolution No. 26-019, ZA26-0028, Specific Use Permit for a commercial school for Creature Outlaws Athletics on property described as Lot 9, Block C, Commerce Business Park Addition and located at 580 Commerce Street, Suite 160 or 170. Current Zoning: “I-1” Light Industrial District Zoning. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING ] SECOND? SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES ON 6F, PLEASE. [6.H. ZA26-0029, Site Plan for DR Fishback Autos LLC on property described as Lot 6, Kirkwood East Addition and located at 1500 W. Kirkwood Boulevard. Current Zoning: “NR-PUD” Non-Residential Planned Unit Development District. SPIN Neighborhood #1. PUBLIC HEARING ] THAT MOTION CARRIES 6-1. ITEM 6F IS APPROVED. ITEM 6G WAS TABLED AS PART OF OUR CONSENT AGENDA. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 6H. CASE NUMBER ZA26-0029, SITE PLAN FOR DR FISHBACK AUTOS LLC, ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOTS. 06, KIRKWOOD EAST EDITION, AND LOCATED AT 1500 WEST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD. DIRECTOR KILLEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE KIRKWOOD EAST DEVELOPMENT. IT IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL ON THE LAND USE PLAN. IT'S NON-RESIDENTIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE... FRONT OF THE LOT, ANOTHER VIEW. THIS BUILDING SITE AREA. THIS IS THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THIS LOT 6 IS THE PROPOSED BUILDING SITE LOCATION. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. [03:00:05] THERE'S A 5,800 SQUARE FOOT PERSONAL OFFICE AND PERSONAL... COLLECTION STORAGE FACILITY UTILITY PLAN FOR THIS DRAINAGE PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND ELEVATIONS. MATERIAL MIX AND ARCHITECTURE SIMILAR TO OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. SOME OF THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS AND THIS IS OUR FLOOR PLAN AND PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM 6-0. AND SUBJECT TO THE SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY AND STAFF REPORT, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES IN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. APDET ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS AT THIS TIME? JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, CLARIFICATION RECONFIRMED, DIRECTOR. JUST TO RE-CLARIFY FOR THE NRPUD AND THE CURRENT LAND USE, STORAGE USE IS COMPLETELY PERMITTED, RIGHT? CORRECT. IT IS A LISTED PERMITTED USE IN THE NRPUD. AWESOME. GREAT. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION AND THE CONFIRM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU DENNIS. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? COME ON DOWN. COUNCIL, DO WE NEED A FULL PRESENTATION ON THIS? I SEE A LOT OF SHAKING HEADS, SO NO PRESENTATION. IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS. SURE. CURTIS SHEN WITH THE ST. DRUPAL OF THE 3RD AND NORTH CARROLL. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS A PLACE THAT'S UNIQUE. CAR COLLECTION HERE, THESE AREN'T RACE CARS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THEY ARE CARS THAT MEAN SOMETHING. AND THIS PLACE TO DO THEM, IT FITS WITH THE PURPOSE OF KIRKWOOD EAST FROM THE BEGINNING. I THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE BEEN TO THE ONE TERRY WILKINSON'S PLACE, SO I HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR THE ATTORNEY, IF HE DECIDES TO SELL THIS AFTER HE USES IT FOR A WHILE AND NO LONGER NEEDS IT, WOULD IT ALLOW SOMEONE TO STORE AND POSSIBLY SELL CARS OUT OF THERE FOR FUTURE USE? HOW WOULD THAT WORK? IT WOULD ALLOW THE STORAGE BUT NOT THE SALE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. ITEM 6H REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6H. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, 6H? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6H. COUNSEL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? THEREFORE, TIM ROBBINS, LET'S DO A MOTION ON 6H. IN SERVICE TO MAYOR, I MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM 6H, ZA26-0029, SITE PLAN FOR DR FISHBACK AUTOS LLC ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 06, KIRKWOOD EAST EDITION, AND LOCATED AT 1500 WEST... KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD, SUB-HEXA STAFF REPORT, DATED MAY 22, 2026, SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER 2, DATED MAY 01, 2026, NOTING THE APPROVAL OF A ONE-STORY OFFICE WAREHOUSE PLANNING TO BE USED AS A PRIVATE OFFICE AND A PRIVATE VEHICLE STORAGE AS PRESENTED. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I SHOULD HAVE NOTED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE SENT OUT, THE CITY SENT OUT 12 PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS WITH NO RESPONSES. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 6H, AND WE HAVE A SECOND. [6.I. Resolution No. 26-020, ZA26-0032, Specific Use Permit for an indoor golf driving range and commercial school for Tee Box on property described as Lot 4R1, Legends at Southlake and located at 2320 Dean Way, Suite 160. Current Zoning: “S-P-2” Generalized Site Plain District. SPIN Neighborhood #8. PUBLIC HEARING ] SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES ON 6H. [Items 6.J. & 6.K.] THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0. 6-H IS APPROVED. ITEM 6-I WAS WITHDRAWN AS NOTED DURING THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO 6-J AND 6-K WHICH WILL BE TAKEN TOGETHER REGARDING POTTERY BARN. 6-J IS CASE NUMBER ZA26-0009 SITE PLAN FOR POTTERY BARN LOCATED ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 1 BLOCK 3R1 SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE EDITION LOCATED AT 1440 CIVIC PLACE. 6K IS TO APPROVE AN ENCROACHMENT AND JOINT USE AGREEMENT FOR POTTERY BARN'S OUTDOOR PATIO. WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY OF GRAND AVENUE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 1440 CIVIC PLACE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. POTTERY BARN IS LOCATED IN THE CORNER WHERE MY CURSOR IS IN 1400 CIVIC PLACE. [03:05:03] FUTURE LAND USE ON THIS IS TOWN CENTER AND KERN'S SDT DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. THIS IS EXISTING. VIEW OF POTTERY BARN STOREFRONT. VIEW LOOKING NORTH. VIEW LOOKING WEST. THIS IS THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO BE MADE TO THE BUILDING. THE PROPOSAL IS TO DO A LIME WASH ON THE EXTERIOR. OF THE EXISTING BRICK ON THIS BUILDING, CHANGE OUT AWNINGS, ADD AN ADDITIONAL DOOR ON THE WEST SIDE, AND UPGRADE THE LOOKS OF THE WINDOWS. OF COURSE, ADD AN OUTDOOR PERGOLA WITH PLANT MATERIAL ON THIS PATIO AREA, AND PART OF THAT IMPROVEMENT WOULD INCLUDE REMOVAL OF ONE OF THE PARALLEL PARKING SPACES LOCATED IN THIS VICINITY. TREES THAT ARE IN PLACE THERE WILL REMAIN IN PLACE AND BECOME PART OF THE OUTDOOR PATIO ELEMENT HERE. IN THIS LITTLE COVE OF THE PATIO STRUCTURE, THEY PLAN ON INSTALLING FURNITURE THAT PEDESTRIANS AND GUESTS... CAN SIT IN AND ENJOY OR WAIT FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S POTENTIALLY DOING THEIR SHOPPING. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE AREA OF THE IMPROVEMENT, DETAIL OF THAT IMPROVEMENT, THIS PATHWAY THROUGHOUT THIS REGION. HERE WILL ALL REMAIN OPEN AND UNIMPEDED BY THE IMPROVEMENT. SOME MORE DETAIL HERE ON THE TREE WELL AREAS. THOSE ARE TO REMAIN AND ALSO SHOWS TYPICAL FURNISHING ARRANGEMENT. THAT AREA WILL REMAIN AS IT IS, NOT IMPEDE THE PEDESTRIAN FLOW THROUGH THE STRUCTURE. THIS IS AN ELEVATION VIEW. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE NORTHERN ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING LOOKING SOUTH. CHANGES WILL NOT HAVE ANY EFFECT ON DRAINAGE. PLAINS ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 5-0, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT AND REVIEW SUMMARY, AS THE ITEM WAS PRESENTED TO THEM. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES FROM THE DEPUTATION AREA. AND ITEM 6-E, THE AREA... HIGHLIGHTED IN HERE REPRESENTS THE ENCROACHMENT AREA INTO THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THE ENCROACHMENT AND JOINT USE. ONCE AGAIN, PEOPLE LOOKING WEST AND THEN JUST SOME COMPARATIVE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPROVED THAT ARE WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE MOXIE AREA. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR TILLOW. ANY QUESTIONS ON 6K AND 6K? DID I SAY I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION? AND IT'S ADA RELATED. DID YOU GO BACK TO THE ELEVATION VIEW OF LOOKING AT THIS ADDITION? RIGHT. ELEVATION VIEW OF LOOKING AT THIS EDITION, RIGHT? GO BACK ONE. YEAH, RIGHT THERE. SO THE ONLY THE CONCERN I HAVE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS SCREEN, THAT FENCE NARROWS TO 6 FEET 8 INCHES, RIGHT? AND THEN ON THIS SIDE OF IT, IT'S MORE LIKE 11 FEET. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BECOME A BOTTLENECK AS PEOPLE ARE GOING [03:10:01] SOUTH OR THEY'RE GOING SOUTH THROUGH THERE TOWARDS THOSE DOORS. BUT MY QUESTION IS, CAN THAT RAILING EVEN BE REMOVED OR IS IT NOT ALLOWED TO BE? US. QUALIFIED AS LIKE AN 88 GRAM. AND THE RAILING TO BE CLEAR ONLY UP TO WHERE IT SAYS 14. AND I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. I MEAN, IT MAY BE AN ELEVATION CHANGE THERE THAT'S REQUIRING THE RAILING. AND, I MEAN, IF IT'S A CONCERN, I MEAN, YOU COULD INCLUDE A CONDITION THAT IF THAT'S NOT REQUIRED BY BUILDING CODE OR... ADA STANDARDS THAT ANY UNNECESSARY PORTION OF THAT BE ELIMINATED IF THAT'S A CONCERN. OKAY. FOR THE COUNCIL. THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT, BUT OTHERWISE IT'S FANTASTIC. I THINK EVEN THOUGH IT'S LEGITIMATELY GOING TO BE FURNITURE, THAT WE JUST VET THAT RAIL. I KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT MAY HAVE TO BE THERE, SO STEP OFF. WELL, YOU STEP INTO TREES, THOSE PLANTERS, SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPTH, AND THAT WAS THE ONLY WEIRD REASON I SAID THAT, BUT I GET IT. I MEAN, IF IT HAS TO BE THERE, IT HAS TO BE THERE. IT'S JUST A BIG MORE. SO DENNIS, AS FAR AS YOUR COMPARISONS TO BOXES OR PISTANA, RIGHT? THE UH, THOSE ACTUALLY HAVE SIDEWALKS ON THE OUTSIDE, RIGHT? CHRIS, YEAH. MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS, I THINK ADA IS LIKE 36 INCHES WIDTH OR SOMETHING, SO THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH ROOM. BUT THE, UM, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE BEING FORCED TO WALK THROUGH A STORE. BECAUSE IT'S FURNITURE THAT'S FOR SALE, RIGHT? AND YOU'RE BEING FORCED THROUGH VERSUS, SO THERE'S NO SIDEWALK LIKE THIS ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT IS MY POINT. RIGHT. IS THERE ONE THAT GOES AROUND IT? A VERY SMALL SECTION OF IT. I THINK IT KIND OF NARROWS DOWN TO A CURB LINE AS YOU GET CLOSER TO WHERE THE NEXT PARALLEL SPACE IS, I THINK. IT MAY BE MORE VISIBLE ON ONE OF THESE EARLIER SITE PLANS. BUT, YEAH, RIGHT IN THIS AREA. YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP TO GET THROUGH HERE AND IT'S, IT IS PROBABLY MANEUVERABLE UP TO THIS POINT, BUT THEN YOU COME OFF THE CURB. YOU CAN'T PASS, YOU CANNOT PASS THROUGH THIS AREA HERE. DENNIS, WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT SLIDE, CAN YOU, MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE IT, USE YOUR MOUSE. TO SHOW THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WHERE THE SIX FOOT EIGHT WALKWAY IS NOW. IN OTHER WORDS, HOW MUCH SPACE IS THERE TODAY? DOES IT GO ALL THE WAY TO WHAT APPEARS TO BE A CURVE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE TREE WELL? LET ME GO BACK TO THE STREET VIEW OF THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE... PUT THE LIGHT IN PLACE HERE. ONCE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY FAIRLY NARROW RIGHT THROUGH THIS REGION WITH WHERE THE CURB LINE IS. SO THAT MAY BE VERY, NOT MUCH MORE PAST THAT 6'8 AREA AS YOU GO RIGHT THROUGH HERE TODAY. I THINK I MEASURED THAT AT 7'9". YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE MORE, BUT... IT'S NOT MUCH MORE, AND YOU HAVE THE LIGHTS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TREE WELLS THAT YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO ZIGZAG AROUND. I THINK, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS FOR THESE FOLKS, BUT I THINK THAT WHILE THE FURNITURE IS TAGGED FOR SALE, IT'S REALLY MORE OF A PUBLIC SPACE. I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SIT, AND YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND SIT AND HAVE A HAPPY LUNCH AT THE TABLE. IT'S REALLY MORE FOR PUBLIC ENJOYMENT, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE PUBLIC. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A SALESMAN COMING OUT, YOU KNOW, SITTING THERE WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S REALLY MEANT MORE FOR ENJOYMENT THAN IT IS SAFETY. YOU'RE RIGHT. NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT, I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF THEIR INTENT. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S TO SELL STUFF, RIGHT? [03:15:01] YEAH. BUT AS FAR AS LOOKS GOES, THEY SAID THEY HAD NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE SITTING IN IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS BEFORE WE INVITE THE APPLICANTS? THANK YOU, SIR. WE'RE GOOD. APPLICANTS HERE, COME ON DOWN. DAVID AND JASON, YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE? THEN YOU'RE ALL NIGHT. GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OKAY, THANK YOU. HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ALIANA RAMOS. I'M A LICENSED ARCHITECT WITH GLOBAL TELLIER REPRESENTING POTTERY BARN. I ACTUALLY LIVE IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. WELCOME. THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD A LOT EARLIER, SO I WAS LIKE, OH, YEAH, WE FIGURED THAT OUT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? GO AHEAD. CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS? HOW WIDE IS THE SIDEWALK? YEAH, SO THE SIDEWALK TO THE EXISTING TREE WELL AT THAT CORNER IS ABOUT 7'5". SO WE'RE REALLY ONLY REDUCING THE RAMP BY LIKE 6 INCHES. AND THEN I THINK THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, LAST TIME I WAS OUT THERE, I SAW A TRASH CAN THAT'S REDUCING IT EVEN MORE AND THAT'S JUST BEEN THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT. SO THAT'S PROBABLY EVEN... YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN FUNCTIONING AT LIKE SIX FEET CURRENTLY. IT'S A VERY BUSY AREA. YEAH, UNDERSTOOD. IS THERE NO WAY YOU CAN GIVE US MORE WIDTH THAN SIX FOOT EIGHT IN THAT AREA? CORRECT, BECAUSE WE CAN'T MODIFY THE EXISTING TREE WELLS. SO WE'RE REALLY ONLY REDUCING IT BY LIKE SIX INCHES IF YOU KEEP THE EXISTING TREE WELLS INTACT. SO YOU'RE GOING WITHIN SIX INCHES OF THE TREE WELL IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THE RAMP GOES OUT UNTIL IT REACHES ABOUT SIX INCHES FROM THE TREE WELL? ABOUT, YEAH. SO ONE OF THE DIAGRAMS I SAW EARLIER I THINK SHOWS THOSE DOORS THAT ARE UNDERNEATH THIS AWNING OPEN OUTWARDS. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH SPACE THAT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THAT SIDEWALK RIGHT THERE? YEAH, EACH DOOR IS THREE FEET WIDE. THREE FEET? THREE FEET. YOU DOWN EVEN LESS. SO ARE THERE OTHER TYPES OF DOORS THAT COULD GO THERE THAT WOULD BE LIKE A FOLDING DOOR OR SOME TYPE OF SOLUTION? OR ONE OF THOSE DOORS THAT OPENS FROM THE CENTER THAT TURNS? THAT IS, I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S FOR EGRESS, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT. BUT I THINK WE'RE NOT TECHNICALLY USING THAT DOOR FOR EGRESS BECAUSE OF THE PERGOLA. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER, BUT SINCE THAT IS A MAIN ENTRY, I DO THINK WE WANT TO KEEP IT FAIRLY THANK YOU. UM, ACCESSIBLE? THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO THREE FEET. SOMEBODY'S OPENING UP THE DOOR. JASON, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A DRIVE-BY? I'M JASON WITH KITE. MY ADDRESS IS 285 GRAND HERE IN TOWN SQUARE. THIS IS ABOUT THE SAME WIDTH AS THE CONCRETE BENCHES TO THE FRONT OF APPLE. APPLE'S DOOR IS BIGGER. WE DON'T HAVE ALMOST THE SAME. AND IT'S THE SAME WITH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET TOO, FROM THE FINGER MINES TO THE TREE WELLS. SO THIS IS NO NARROWER THAN ALMOST ANYWHERE ELSE WE HAVE. AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION THE DRIVER BEHIND THIS, THIS IS THE LANDLORD DRIVING THIS. WE WANT THIS ENTRANCE. THIS IS THE LONGEST SPAN IN THE ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT A DOOR. AND THEN WE HAVE A GREAT ISSUE. SO BECAUSE OF THE GREAT ISSUE, WE HAVE ALL THIS OTHER STUFF GOING ON. AND SO WHEN WE WERE FIGURING THIS OUT, HOW DO WE GET A DOOR IN HERE? POTTERY BARN SAID, WELL, WE WANT TO BRING OUR SIGNAGE OUT TO THE STREET AS PART OF THIS. WE'RE SPENDING A BUNCH OF MONEY TO DO THIS. WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY AND WANT TO BRING IT OUT. WE ACTUALLY LIKE THAT IDEA. WE GOT ALL THE UPGRADES WE WANTED. IT WAS ACTUALLY QUITE EXPENSIVE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, ALL TO SATISFY OUR NEED FOR A DOOR. AND THAT JUST HAS TO DO WITH WE THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A DOOR APPROXIMATELY EVERY 25 FEET IN A WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS OVER 100. AND SO THAT'S THE DRIVER, AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE SOLVING IT. THERE'S NOT A DOOR THERE RIGHT NOW? DIDN'T THERE USED TO BE A DOOR? NO, NEVER. BECAUSE THE GRADE, THE GRADE IS JUST A PROBLEM. SINCE I HAVE YOU UP HERE, HOW DO THEY PLAN TO MONITOR, LIKE, LOITERING OR THAT SORT OF THING? BECAUSE RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY OUT THERE WAITING ON PEOPLE AND TAKING CARE OF THEIR CUSTOMERS. HOW WOULD THEY ADDRESS THAT? OR MISCHIEF, NOT THAT THE KIDS WOULD EVER DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WHAT'S THEIR PLAN FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WELL, I DO. THIS CONDITION IS FOUND UP AND DOWN THE STREET. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT FLOWER CHILD OR ANYWHERE ELSE WE'VE DONE THIS, WE HAVE LOTS OF STUFF ON THE STREET. EVEN ON THE SIDE OF WHAT'S NOW GOING TO BE CRANE BARREL WHERE MACY'S WAS, WE HAD A PATIO ON THE SIDE. WE HAD TABLES AND STUFF OUT THERE THAT YOU COULD USE. OUR BIG CRIME IS SUDS AND THE WATER FOUNTAIN [03:20:02] IN THE MIDDLE. THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ONE, THOUGH, IS YOU'RE GOING TO BE ALMOST FORCED TO WALK THROUGH THAT. AND SO IT'S A BIT MORE OF AN INVITATION THAN FLOWER CHILD OR PLACES THAT ARE FENCED. WELL, SWEET PARIS, ROCKFISH, IT WAS THE SAME. EVERYONE WALKS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PATIO. INSIDE THE FENCE, NO ISSUES. THOSE ARE ALL RESTAURANTS, THOUGH, CORRECT? YEAH, OKAY. AND WILL YOU CONSTANTLY HAVE A WAITER OR WAITRESS OUT THERE? YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S THERE AFTER THEY CLOSE, AND THAT'S WHEN THE PROBLEMS WOULD BE. THE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS? I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW. STICK AROUND. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6J AND ALSO ON 6K. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING 6J AND 6K? I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT EIGHT PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT AND ZERO RESPONSES AT THIS POINT. LAST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON 6J AND 6K. SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 6J AND 6K. COUNSEL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON EITHER OF THOSE TWO ITEMS? POTTERY BARN. I GUESS WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. WE'LL DO IT SEPARATELY. LET'S DO 6J FIRST. YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM 6J, GA-26-0009, SITE PLAN FOR POTTERY BARN ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 01, BLOCK 3R1, SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE EDITION, LOCATED AT 1440 CIVIC PLACE, SUBJECT TO STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 22, 2026. SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER 3, DATED APRIL 17, 2026. NOTING APPROVAL OF CONSTRUCTION OF A WOODEN TRELLIS OUTDOOR PATIO ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF THE LEASE SPACE AT A HEIGHT NOT TO EXCEED 13 FEET 5 INCHES AND MAINTAINING A 6 FOOT 8 INCH WIDE WALKWAY AT ALL TIMES. REPLACING OF THE FIXTURES AND LIGHTING AND INSTALLATION OF THE NEW STOREFRONT E-DRESS DOORS. REFINISHING THE EXISTING STOREFRONT WITH A LIME WASH TO THE EXISTING BRICK. AND REPLACING THE EXISTING FABRIC CANOPIES WITH NEW METAL CANOPIES. WE HAVE A MOTION ON 6J. WE HAVE A SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES ON 6J. THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0. LET'S DO A MOTION ON 6K. 6K IS APPROVED. 6K PLEASE. YES MR. MAYOR, MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6K. APPROVE AN ENCROACHMENT AND JOINT USE AGREEMENT FOR POTTERY BARN'S OUTDOOR PATIO WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY AT GRAND AVENUE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 1440 CIVIC PLACE. NOTING APPROVAL OF ENCROACHMENT AND JOINT USE AGREEMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE PLACEMENT OF AN OUTDOOR PATIO, SIDEWALK, AND PLANTER WITHIN AN EXISTING PARALLEL PARKING SPACE AND WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CIVIC PLACE AND GRAND AVENUE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 6K. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES ON 6K. [7.A. Ordinance No. 480-847, ZA26-0027, 1st Reading, Zoning Change and Development Plan for 1360 N Carroll Avenue on property described as Tract 4A, A.H. Chivers Survey, Abstract No. 299 and located at 1360 N. Carroll Avenue. Current Zoning: “AG” Agricultural District. Requested Zoning: “R-PUD” Residential Planned Unit Development District. SPIN Neighborhood #3. ] THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0, 6-K IS APPROVED. CONGRATULATIONS. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. NEXT WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 7A, ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-847, CASE NUMBER Z826-0027, FIRST READING ZONE CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 1360 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRACK 4A, CHIVERS, SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 299 AND LOCATED AT 1360 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE, DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT TRACK REQUESTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND RPUD ZONING. THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY IS MIXED USE AND INCLUDES 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN OVERLAY. CURRENT ZONING ON IT IS AGRICULTURAL REQUESTED ZONING. ONCE AGAIN, RESIDENTIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THE VIEW OF THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, AND THIS REPRESENTS OPTION ONE, THE APPLICANTS PRESENTING THAT REFLECTS RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MADE AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL MOVING THIS ITEM FORWARD. THE PLAN PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION WAS A FOUR-LOT PLAN CONSISTING OF 75 FOOT WIDE LOTS AND SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT SIDE YARDS WHICH MATCH THE 10% SIDE YARD FOR THE LOT WIDTH. THIS PROPOSAL REDUCED IT BY A LOT, INCREASED THE WIDTH OF EACH LOT TO 100 FEET, AND INCREASED THE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO 10 FEET. ADDITIONALLY, THE COMMISSION ASKED THAT THEY PROVIDE A SLIP [03:25:02] DRIVEWAY THAT WOULD ALLOW HEAD IN AND HEAD OUT, ESSENTIALLY TWO-WAY INGRESS-EGRESS ON THE SITE TO PREVENT... POTENTIAL STACKING PROBLEMS ON CARROLL AVENUE. THIS PLAN REFLECTS THAT AND SITE DATA SUMMARY. REQUESTS ZONING RESIDENTIAL PLANNING DEVELOPMENT. THREE LOTS, AVERAGE LOT SIZE JUST UNDER 51,500 SQUARE FEET. TOTAL OPEN SPACE PROVIDED ON THE WESTERN END ADJACENT TO LAKE CAROLINE PARK IS 3.47 ACRES, SO APPROXIMATELY JUST UNDER 48% OF THE OPEN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AND PERCENTAGE OF OPEN SPACE. AND TOTAL ACREAGE ON PROPERTIES 7.285 ACRES. THIS IS A COMPARISON OF... THE RPUD WITH THE UNDERLYING PUD REGULATIONS THEY ARE MODELING, WHICH IS SF-20A. THIS IS A COMPARISON OF THEIR SETBACKS, MINIMUM LOT AREAS, LOT WIDTH, LOT COVERAGE, AND MINIMUM FLOOR AREA. AND WE HAVE ADDITIONALLY PREPARED A CHART, A SET OF CHARTS THAT JUST COMPARE THESE REGULATIONS WITH THREE OF THE STANDARD ZONING DISTRICTS THAT MAY BE SOMEWHAT RELATIONAL TO CERTAIN COMPONENTS OF THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH ONCE AGAIN INCLUDES SF20. WE ALSO PROVIDED A COMPARISON WITH SF30 SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT AND THEN THE SF1A SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT. THIS IS THE PROPOSED FENCING DIAGRAM. WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE MAIN RETAINING OR REPAIRING EXISTING WOOD FENCING THAT'S CURRENTLY ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHERN LOT AND THEN PROPOSING A ORNAMENTAL METAL IRON FENCE ALONG A PORTION OF THE BOUNDARY OF THAT LAWN. THIS IS A BUDDING, I BELIEVE, PARKLAND. CURRENTLY STILL PART OF THE LAKE CAROLINE PROPERTY. AND THIS IS A DETAIL OF DRIVEWAY ONE PLAN. THE APPLICANTS ADDITIONALLY INCLUDED THREE OTHER DRIVEWAY OPTIONS OTHER THAN THE RECOMMENDED SLIP DRIVE FROM P&Z'S RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS DRIVE PLAN OPTION TWO, WHICH WOULD HAVE A COMMON DRIVEWAY WITH A HAMMERHEAD TO SERVE BOTH LOTS TWO AND THREE IN A SINGLE DRIVEWAY SERVING LOT ONE EACH 15 FOOT WIDE. AND THIS IS AN EXHIBIT SHOWING 12 FOOT DRIVES THAT WOULD INDIVIDUALLY SERVE EACH LOT. IN ALL CASES, ALL DRIVEWAYS, TO COMPLY WITH DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE, MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE OVER FOOT OF SEPARATION BETWEEN CENTERLINES. THIS IS OUR CREEK PRESERVATION PLAN AND LANDSCAPE PLAN, DRAINAGE PLAN. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THERE MAY BE SOME MEETINGS SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT AND REVIEW SUMMARY PRESENTED. NOTING THE REQUEST FOR, THE P&Z'S REQUEST WAS FOR THREE LOTS, AT LEAST 100 FOOT IN WIDTH, WITH SIDE YARDS TO MATCH THE 100 FOOT WIDE WIDTH, AND PROVIDE A SHARED SLIP ROAD DRIVEWAY WITH TWO ENTRANCES RANGING 18 TO 20 FEET IN WIDTH. TWO LANES. TO DATE WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE OPPOSITION WITHIN 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA AND ALSO [03:30:02] WITHIN 300 FOOT OVERALL NOTIFICATION AREA. AND THEN WE'VE RECEIVED SIX RESPONSES OF OPPOSITION AND BOTH OF THESE RESPONSES HAVE BEEN IN OPPOSITION. THAT ARE OUTSIDE THAT 300 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA AND WHAT WHAT IS IN PROXIMITY OF OUR MAP WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THOSE I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AS A PRESENTATION AS WELL THANK YOU DIRECTOR HILLARY ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS AT THIS TIME YEAH I DON'T KNOW I'M SURE IF IT'S FOR DENNIS OR THE ATTORNEY IF WE APPROVED SF-20 AND FOR SOME REASON THE DEVELOPER DECIDED THEY DO NOT, THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY. MY QUESTION WOULD BE THAT IF THE NEXT PERSON THAT BOUGHT IT, WOULD THEY, WOULD THAT NOW BE ZONED SF20? NO. TYPICALLY WITH OUR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS, IT WILL STATE A BASE ZONING DISTRICT THAT IT WILL MODEL BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL REGULATIONS OUT OF ZONING ORDINANCE. THAT ARE TIED TO SF-20, ACCESSORY BUILDING, ACCESSORY USE PROVISIONS, CERTAIN SPECIFIC USE PERMITS. AND THEN THE APPLICANT JUST IDENTIFIES ANY DIFFERING REGULATIONS THAT THEIR DEVELOPMENT WILL BE SUBJECT TO IF THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING AND REGULATIONS ARE APPROVED. THEY'RE ALSO HELD TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT THEY PRESENT THAT ALSO SETS UP THE BASIS FOR HOW THE SUBDIVISION'S LIGHTING WOULD BE CARRIED OUT IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS. AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAN AND ANY FINAL PLAN MUST COMPLY WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO IT'S INCLUSIVE WITH THE REGULATIONS THEY ARE ALTERING HERE. AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN... AND THEN ANY OTHER UNMENTIONED REGULATIONS AND USES THAT ARE TIED TO THE NRSF 20? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS AT THIS TIME? GO AHEAD. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS, PLEASE. THERE WE GO. THE HOME AT 1330 WHO FILED OPPOSITION. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW, DID THEY GIVE A REASON? I HAVE NOT ACTUALLY SEEN THEIR OPPOSITION RESPONSE AS OF YET, SO I'M UNDER THE PRESUMPTION THEY HAVE, AND I DO NOT KNOW, I PRESUME IT ARRIVED IN TIME FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE, BUT I DO NOT KNOW THAT FOR SURE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A COMMENT CARD, I THINK, FROM SOMEONE AT THAT RESIDENCE, SO WE MIGHT HEAR FROM THEM SHORTLY. THERE'S A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO LOT ONE, CAN YOU GO TO THE OVERLAY THAT SHOWS THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE LOTS? THERE WE GO, 51,407. IT'S EASIER TO SEE THERE. SO THE ACTUAL AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR THE HOUSE WOULD BE 400 SQUARE FEET PLUS A LITTLE BIT MORE, MAYBE 7,000 SQUARE FEET IN TERMS OF THE... 30%. WELL REALLY I CAN SAY THERE'S BUILDING ENVELOPE 8403. YEAH WHAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED IS THE UM YES THE BUILDABLE AREA RIGHT THAT'S WITHIN THE BUILDING SETBACK LINE SO THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE ESTIMATED TO BE THE MAXIMUM AREA BUILDABLE ON THE LOT AND THEY DO SO THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE THEIR PRIMARY LIMITING FACTOR. GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE LOT, THEY SAID 20 REGULATION, 30% COVERAGE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY... RIGHT, SO THEN THE FLOODPLAIN LINE IS THE ONE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT? CORRECT, YEAH. THE FLOODPLAIN BOUNDARY IS, BESIDES THE SETBACK, WHICH WOULD... THE REAR YARD IS ACTUALLY ALONG THE REAR LOT BOUNDARY. BUT THE FLOODPLAIN BOUNDARY IS REALLY THE VECTOR FOR BUILDING CONSTRUCTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME ON DOWN. [03:35:23] NAME AND ADDRESS AND IT'S ALL YOURS. CURTIS SHELLY WITH THE STATE GROUP 1130 NORTH CARROLL. THANK YOU FOR STANDING. AS BEN HAS MENTIONED, THIS IS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS. YOU CAN SEE IT'S ADJACENT TO ED CARROLL ON AND BUNNY MILL CREEK IN THE REAR PORTION. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, MY CLIENT, ORIGINALLY PURCHASED THIS. AND LOOKED AT THE LAND USE PLAN FOR THE TIME AND SAW THAT IT WAS MIXED USE AND THOUGHT WHAT A BEAUTIFUL SITE IT WOULD BE FOR AN OFFICE EVENT CENTER TYPE THING OVERLOOKING LAKE CAROLYN AND ALL THIS FOOT PLANT. AND SO HE THOUGHT NATURALLY THAT THIS WOULD BE A VERY GOOD LOCATION FOR SUCH A USE AND THAT IT FIT THE LAND USE PLAN OF THE CITY OF SOUTH LAKE OF MIXED USE. ZONE BAG, SO OF COURSE WE'RE HAVING TO COME IN AND REZONE IT. A LITTLE OVER SEVEN ACRES TOTAL. THIS WAS WHAT THEIR DREAM WAS IN PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY. TO BUILD THIS HISTORIC OFFICE, MID-CENTER MEETING SPACE, DESIGNED LIKE THIS, AND IT WOULD OVERLOOK THE FOOT PLANE AND LAKE AND EVERYTHING. THIS IS WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WANTED TO DO HERE. WE TOOK THIS TO SPIN, WE CIRCULATED THIS AMONGST THE NEIGHBORS, AND BEFORE THIS EVER CAME TO Y'ALL, THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION THAT CAME ABOUT FOR THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT MEANT THE LAND. SO, MY CLIENT BASICALLY SAID, LISTEN, I DON'T WANT TO START, YOU KNOW, A BIG CONTROVERSY HERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE WAY OUT OF THIS? WHAT HE HEARD FROM A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS WAS, WHAT ACRE LONG? SO HE ASKED ME HOW WE COULD DO THAT, AND HE CAME UP WITH THIS PLAN. ALL THESE LOTS ARE 1A4 LOTS THERE. IT'S NOT NEARLY AS LUCRATIVE AS THE OFFICE EVENT CENTER, BUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK THERE. WE TOOK THIS PLAN TO P&Z, ALONG WITH THE SPIN MEETING SUGGESTED THAT WE COME UP WITH OPTIONS FOR THE DRIVEWAYS. ONE DRIVEWAY PER LOT. CHAIR DRIVEWAYS BETWEEN LOTS 3 AND 4 AND 1 AND 2 AND KIND OF THE SLIP ROAD TYPE APPROACH. WE DID THAT. P&Z RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE REMOVE ONE MORE LOT AND MAKE THESE THREE LOTS. HERE, THESE WERE THE OPTIONS ON THE... THIS PROPOSAL HERE MATCHES THE P&Z RECOMMENDATION. IDEALLY, WE LIKE THE FOUR-LOT PLAN BETTER. WE THINK IT WORKS HERE. IT'S A PLUMBIER ROOM. THERE ARE HARD LOCKS. IT'S A MIXED-USE AREA. WE DO HAVE ONE RESIDENTIAL USER NEXT TO US. EVERYTHING ELSE IS COMMERCIAL SALVIA HERE. HE'S OBJECTED TO... CERTAINLY OBJECTED TO THE TWO-STORY OFFICE EVENT CENTER, AND FRANKLY, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. TWO-STORY BUILDING NEXT TO THEM. SO I THINK THE CLIENT WAS PREPARED TO GO TO THE... RESIDENTIAL PLAN, AGAIN, WE PREFER THE FOUR LOT PLAN, BUT WE WANT SOME DIRECTION. THIS IS THE FIRST READING, WHETHER YOU FEEL STRONGLY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE THREE LOTS LIKE THE V&Z DID, OR YOU THOUGHT THAT THE FOUR ACRE LOTS WOULD BE GOOD HERE. AGAIN, AND AS FAR AS THE DRIVEWAYS GO, WHETHER IT'S A SLIP ROAD LIKE THIS. THERE ARE THREE LOTS. I THINK THE EASIEST THING TO DO WOULD JUST BE HAVE A DRIVEWAY FOR EVERY LOT. THIS MEETS THE DRIVEWAY STANDARDS. AND IF THERE WAS A WORRY ABOUT, P&Z HAD A WORRY ABOUT AMAZON TRUCKS OR UPS OR WHATEVER BACKING OUT ON THE CARROLL. [03:40:01] IF THERE WAS A WORRY ON THAT, WE COULD PUT IN A REQUIREMENT AND IT'D TURN AROUND SO PEOPLE COULD TURN AROUND. I THINK THIS WOULD BE THE SIMPLEST, THAT EACH LOT WOULD BE AUTONOMOUS AND WOULDN'T HAVE ANY SLUG ROAD THAT COULD BE MAINTAINED AND BUILT. ANYWAY, THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS OR GIVE YOU FEEDBACK. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? CURTIS, AS A PART IT HAS OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN AMENITY. ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THAT OPEN SPACE AT THE BACK? NO, IT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE CITY'S LAND THERE, ALSO LARGELY IN THE FOOTLAND. SO THE THOUGHT WAS THAT MAYBE THEY COULD BE COMBINED. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THE CITY'S PLANS ARE. BUT YOU'RE NOT PUTTING ANY TRAILS OR PATHWAYS OR BENCHES OR ANYTHING? THAT'S NOT THE PLAN, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY GIVE ACCESS TO IT. IT IS ON THE PLAN? NO, I SAID THAT'S NOT THE PLAN. OH, NOT THE PLAN. I JUST DIDN'T, OKAY. IT WOULD BE A VISUAL AMENITY. AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO SAY I LEAN TOWARDS THE LOOP ROAD. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE IF THAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED WITH FORBIDDING A GATE? ON THAT ROAD. YEAH. LEADING UP TO CARROLL. RIGHT. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE WHOLE REASON FOR HAVING THAT IS TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW. RIGHT. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING READING THE NOTES FROM CORRIDOR AND BLINDING AND ZONING WHEN THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT AMAZON. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT SO LONG AGO. BUT NOW THE IDEA OF DELIVERY VEHICLES BACKING OUT ON CARROLL IS A LITTLE SCARY. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I'VE GOT FOR YOU AT THIS POINT IS I'VE I'M GOING TO WANT, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU FOR 15-FOOT SIDE YARDS. YOU PUT BIG HOUSES ON HERE. YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT HOUSES ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. THEY'RE CLOSE TO THE STREET. THAT'S JUST NOT A GREAT LOOK. YOU PULLED IT OFF ON THIS ONE. YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT CUTS DOWN THE BUILDABLE AREA. AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE INDUSTRY, A 10% SIDE SETBACK IS... PRETTY STANDARD, IT'S ABOUT 10 FEET. YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD THIS TO SF20 STANDARDS AND THE SF20 STANDARD IS A 15 FOOT SIDE YARD. THAT'S WHAT THE GENERAL COUNCIL THINKS. OKAY, I JUST THOUGHT WE'D GET THAT OUT NOW. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK UP AND SAY I CAN'T DO IT. POSSIBLY. WELL, IT JUST GOES FROM AN 80 FOOT PAD TO A 70 FOOT PAD. IT'S NOT UNDOABLE, IT'S JUST NOT AS GOOD. CURTIS, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA, LIKE, WHERE THE GARAGES WOULD BE WITH THESE BUILDINGS? DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCEPTUAL? WHERE THE WHAT? YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DIAGRAMS OF, LIKE, THE CONCEPTUAL BUILDING. A LOT OF TIMES YOU COME IN, THIS IS WHAT THE HOUSE WOULD LOOK LIKE. AS FAR AS THE GARAGES THEMSELVES, ARE YOU LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE FACING CARROLL OR? WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE SIDE FACING CARROLL. IT MIGHT BE ONE OF THOSE THREE-CAR GARAGES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. SO DEFINITELY LIKE THE SLIP DRIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN DUMPING TRAFFIC DIRECTLY ON CARROLL, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S SUPER, SUPER BUSY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE JOHNSON ELEMENTARY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. SO WITH THE SLIP DRIVE, IT'S 18 FOOT WIDE, CORRECT? YES. HEY, CLIPSON. ...MENTIONS ON THEIR CORNERS. GOTCHA, SO THEY NEED TO DO THAT. I KINDA WANNA UNDERSTAND IF ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORS OR ONE OF THESE OWNERS HAD GUESTS OVER, PARK THE TRUCK LIKE A FULL-SIZE SUV, FULL-SIZE F-250 IN FRONT, IF THERE'S AMAZON COMING TO DELIVER, HOW WOULD THEY NAVIGATE THAT? IS IT A LITTLE BIT TOO TIGHT, OR DO YOU FORESEE ANY ISSUES GETTING THAT TWO-WAY TRAFFIC THERE WITH GUESTS PARKED IN FRONT? WELL... I THINK IF SOMEONE WAS PARKED THERE TEMPORARILY, SOMEONE WOULD BE HIT. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A LOT OF STREETS AROUND TOWN, FRANKLY, THAT ARE 18 FEET WIDE. YEAH, IF SOMEONE DIDN'T PARK IN THE MIDDLE, IF THEY PARKED, THAT'S TWO PARKING SPOTS. [03:45:02] WHY? SO, CERTAINLY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? DO YOU ANTICIPATE AN HOA FOR THIS? WELL, ORIGINALLY, NO. BUT WITH THE CIRCULAR DRIVE, THINK ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE GUY IN THE MIDDLE'S GOT MORE TO TAKE CARE OF THAN THE OTHERS. PERHAPS THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME KIND OF COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT TO MAINTAIN THAT. WITH THE OPEN SPACE BEING A SEPARATE LOT, THEY WILL REQUIRE AN HOA. JUST ENSURE THERE IS AN ENTITY THAT CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MAINTENANCE NEEDS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED. AND THEY NEED AN OPEN SPACE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR YOUR PLAN UNIT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. THANK YOU, HENRY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, CURTIS. FOR NOW, WE'RE GOOD. ITEM 7A IS A FIRST READING AND DOES NOT REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON 7A. ON NOTE, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS AND CARDS THAT HAVE COME IN, SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE FIRST, AND THEN I'LL INVITE FOLKS TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM TO SPEAK. YOU'RE, OF COURSE, WELCOME TO COME UP IF YOU'VE INDICATED YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON YOUR COMMENT CARD. FIRST UP IS CHRIS NEIDENHOFER. 1200 BAY MEADOWS DRIVE WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 7A. CHRIS? YES, SIR. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, EVEN THOUGH I DID IT. YES, THAT'S FINE. I'M CHRIS NEATENHOFER, 1200 BAY MEADOWS DRIVE, CHILD PLACE, TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. BASICALLY ON THIS, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS FOR MANY REASONS, AND I'LL TELL YOU, THE MAIN THING IS... SOUTHLAKE'S 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES THE NORTH SECTOR OF THE 114 CORRIDOR IS DISTINCT WITH UNIQUE CHARACTER. ACCORDING TO THE PLAN, THAT MEANS RURAL CHARACTER WITH LARGE LOTS, LOW-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, ANIMAL SPECIES THAT ARE NOT AS COMMON. THIS PROPERTY IS ONE OF THEM, AND IT HAS WHITE-TAILED DEER ON IT. THE PROPOSED REZONING IS INCONSISTENT WITH THIS, ACCORDING TO THE PLAN AND THE CHARACTER OF THIS SECTOR. THE ADDITION OF THREE HOMES ON THIS TRACT OF LAND IS WHAT IS A PROBLEM. THIS IS SKINNY LAND. IT IS DEEP AND SKINNY. YOU CAN ONLY BUILD ON THE EAST. THE PROBLEM IS THE FLOODPLAIN. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE OWNER, THEY KNEW THIS WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT. THIS WAS AGRICULTURAL. I KNEW THE MAN THAT OWNED IT. HE HAD COWS ON IT A LONG TIME AGO. I DON'T LIKE THAT IT'S IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD THREE MORE HOMES INTO IT. THERE'S ONE HOME IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S MR. QUINN'S. I DON'T LIKE THAT. I DON'T LIKE THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE INCREASED. NOT JUST THE CARS, BUT WITH THE MAINTENANCE, THE AMAZON WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL, GUESTS. I MEAN, IN ONE WAY, I GUESS THE GUESTS, IF THEY STAY THERE AND PARK IN THE CIRCULAR DRIVE, WHICH NOTHING ON CARROLL ROAD HAS THAT, THEY COULD PARK IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WALK ACROSS. I MEAN, THAT'S ONE IDEA. BUT IF YOU'VE SEEN CARROLL ROAD WITH DADDY DAUGHTER DONUT DAY, MOTHERS WITH DRAGONS, THE ISLAMIC CENTER OPENS AT 6 A.M. IN THE MORNING. IT IS VERY BUSY AND YOU NEED TO WATCH OUT. THERE IS A HUGE INCREASE IN E-BIKES, SCOOTERS, GOLF CARTS, NOT JUST FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BUT FOR CARROLL MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO WATCH IT 10 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR. THIS IS NOT GOING TO HELP THAT. I CHECKED, AND FOR COMPARISON... OLD UNION HAS NO HOMES FACING SCHOOL OR DIRECT ACCESS TO SOUTH CARROLL. ROCK AND BALL, SAME THING, NO DIRECT ACCESS TO BYRON NELSON. CARROLL ELEMENTARY, NO HOMES, NO DIRECT ACCESS TO WEST CONTINENTAL. WALNUT GROVE, ONE HOME. VERY DEEP SETBACK, LARGE USABLE ACREAGE. THIS IS ACREAGE, BUT IT IS NOT USABLE, AND THAT IS THE ISSUE. THE OTHER THINGS I'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH ARE THE DRAINAGE. COMING HERE TONIGHT, I SAW ALMOST LEVEL WITH CARROLL ROAD, THE WATER ON THE WEST SIDE, AND THERE'S RECENTLY BEEN CONSTRUCTED ON THE EAST SIDE A SOLID WOODEN FENCE THAT WAS NOT THERE BEFORE. AND LAKE CARILLON DRAINS DIRECTLY TOWARDS CARROLL ROAD. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO HELP THAT. A COMMENT I HAVE IS I'VE SEEN JUNIORS, SENIORS TAKING PROM PICTURES, HOMECOMING PHOTOS, GRADUATION, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANOTHER [03:50:02] AGRICULTURAL PIECE ON CARROLL ROAD. I'VE LIVED THERE 43 YEARS, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT STAY THAT WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE LISA QUINN AT 1036 DIAMOND, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION. WILLIAM QUINN AT 1330 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 7A. IF YOU COULD SAY HIS NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THEN GO AHEAD. YES, SIR. WILLIAM QUINN, 1330 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE, SOUTH LAKE. SO I'M THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS. THE BIGGEST ISSUE I'VE GOT WITH IT IS THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE. THE SETBACKS, NUMBER ONE. THE HOUSE THAT YOU CAN'T, THIS IS NOT, I MEAN, TO CONSIDER THIS AN ACRE LOT IS PRETTY CRAZY. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DID, I THINK YOUR BIGGEST ISSUE IS GOING TO BE LOT NUMBER ONE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE... SO MUCH SMALLER THAN THE OTHER TWO, JUST WITH HOW THIS LOT IN GENERAL GOES WITH THE FLOODPLAIN. SO YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT. GETTING RID, PEOPLE MAKING MONEY DOING THIS, GREAT. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT. BUT TO HAVE THREE IS BETTER THAN FOUR, FOR SURE. BETTER THAN THE EVENT CENTER THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT IN. BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE REALISTIC OF WHAT'S GOING ON ON CARROLL AND WHAT YOU'VE GOT ON CARROLL RIGHT NOW. AND TAKE A LOOK. GOING DOWN PARALLEL, WHATEVER THE OTHER HOUSE LOOKS LIKE, AND THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THEY HAVE. SO MAKING THIS TWO LOTS, I THINK, WOULD BE IDEAL, BETTER, JUST FOR TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE. TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT FLOODPLAIN, LIKE MR. NEUBAUER SAID, THAT THAT PARALLEL DOES FLOOD, AND LOT ONE WILL BE UNDERWATER, AND THAT BIG... YOU KNOW, THE 100-YEAR STORMS THAT WE WILL GET. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKING CONSIDERATION YOUR DRAINAGE FACTOR, YOUR TRAFFIC FACTOR, AND WHAT EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKS LIKE ON CARROLL WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT COMMENT CARD, ANOTHER COMMENT CARD FROM MR. NIETENHOFER. CHRIS NIETENHOFER AT 1200 BAY MEADOWS DRIVE HAS SPOKEN IN OPPOSITION TO 7A. NEXT COMMENT CARD, CANDACE CAPPERTON-MANLEY AT 1204 WHISPERING LANE. WE'LL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 7A. COME ON DOWN. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, THEN WE'LL START THE CLOCK. GOOD EVENING. CANDACE CAPPERTON-MANLEY, 1204 WHISPERING LANE. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. I KNOW EVERYONE IS TIRED. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IT'S DEFINITELY AN IMPROVEMENT OVER THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT, AND WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. HOWEVER, WE STILL FEEL LIKE THIS PROPERTY IS JUST NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF FOUR OR EVEN THREE HOMES. REALLY, PROBABLY THE MAX WOULD BE ONE TO TWO. THERE'S A REASON THAT MR. BURGESS BUILT... HIS OLD RANCH HOUSE WITHIN THE STONE'S THROW OF CARROLL, AND HE DID THAT BECAUSE HE HAD TO. EVEN THOUGH HE OWNS A LOT OF ACREAGE, HE KNEW IT WOULD FLOOD, AND IT DOES FLOOD, Y'ALL, AND IT FLOODS BADLY, AND IT'S GETTING WORSE ALL THE TIME. THESE ARE LITERALLY THE HEADWATERS OF DOVE CREEK, AND THERE ARE SPRINGS DOWN IN HERE IN THE BOTTOMLANDS. SO THAT IS CONSIDERATION. I ALSO ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE CURRENT BLOOD PLANE AS DEPICTED IS ACTUALLY INACCURATE. I THINK IT'S MUCH MORE SEVERE THAN WHAT YOU SEE. I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE RECEIVED BY EMAIL PICTURES AND VIDEOS OF THE FLOODING EVENT THAT WE HAD IN JUNE OF 2019. AND Y'ALL, THIS WAS REALLY A SEVERE EVENT. DIVE CREEK WAS SO HIGH THAT IF YOU WERE STANDING ON CARROLL LOOKING WEST INTO THIS PROPERTY, YOU COULD LITERALLY SEE THE TOP OF THE CREEK AND THE CREEK OVERFLOWED ITS BANKS AND IT FLOODED THE BRIDGE. AND IN FACT, IT STRANDED IN BOVARY AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO COME OUT AND HELP HIM. IT WAS THAT BAD. [03:55:02] THE WATER LAPPED AT THE DOORS OF MY NEIGHBORS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT ACTUALLY WENT INSIDE SOME OF THEIR HOMES AND THEY INCURRED DAMAGES. SO MOST OF US REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS PROPERTY IS BEST SUITED FOR DRAINAGE AND FOR GREEN SPACE AND FOR FLOODPLAIN. AND I THINK IT REALLY WOULD HAVE MADE A GREAT CITY PARK, BUT ALAS, THAT IS NOT TO BE. AGAIN, ONE TO TWO HOMES MIGHT BE PALATABLE, BUT REALISTICALLY, ANY. FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS OF THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO ADVERSELY IMPACT THOSE OF US DOWNSTREAM, WITHOUT A DOUBT. SO ANYWAY, WE HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER OUR COMMENTS AND OUR CONCERNS AND VOTE NO ON THIS DIRECT PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, ANOTHER COMMENT CARD FROM LISA QUINN AT 1036 DUNN BOULEVARD. DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION. SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. NEXT, IT'S ELIZABETH RUMPLER AT 2405 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE. WILL SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 7A. ELIZABETH RUMPLER. WE'LL NOTE ELIZABETH RUMPLER OPPOSITION TO 7A. LISA THOMPSON AT 1659 CREEKSIDE DRIVE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO 7A. NANCY HARTZELL AT 1200 POWDER RIVER TRAIL DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO 7A. FRED MANLEY AT 1204 WHISPERING LANE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO 7A. JEFF MCCOURT AT 1510 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION TO 7A. FRED MANLEY, AGAIN, AT 1204 WHISPERING LANE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT RECORDS OPPOSITION. ALSO, FROM OUR PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS, BOTH CHRIS AND KAREN MIETENHOFER AT 1200 BAY MEADOWS DRIVE INDICATED OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM. ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING 7A? YES, COME ON DOWN. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND WE'LL START THE CLOCK. SAM FONTENOT, 1410 WEST SPRINGDALE COURT, SOUTH LAKE, TEXAS. I WASN'T IN THE AREA THAT Y'ALL SHOWED THAT WAS IMPACTED, BUT I'M DEFINITELY IMPACTED BY THE... 1810 WEST SPRINGDALE COURT IN THE FLOOD. DEL CREEK, DOVE CREEK RUNS RIGHT DOWN BACK TO OUR DOOR. WE WERE ONE OF THE HOMES THAT WERE IMPACTED. EVERY FLOOD, IT'S ALWAYS A FLASH FLOOD. IT GETS WORSE AND WORSE. I KNOW THE ENGINEERING CALCULATIONS THAT THEY DO ON THESE RETENTION PONDS AND THESE RETENTION SYSTEMS THAT PEOPLE PUT IN PLACE. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE ACTING CAROLING. RIGHT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT PROPERTY, IT SEEMS LIKE IT HAS BEEN GETTING WORSE AND WORSE. THE CREEK IS ERODING. IT'S CUTTING INTO PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES. THE CITY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THE CITY CLAIMS THAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERING SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT FEEDS INTO LAKE GRAPEVINE. BUT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERING DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT EITHER. THEY DON'T COME AND DRAG THE CREEK. THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING. I'VE GOT TIRES THAT ARE WASHING UP ON MY PROPERTY. I'VE GOT, SOMETIMES... CREEK EVEN CHANGES COLORS, SO SOMEBODY'S DUMPING CHEMICALS IN IT. SO THIS PROPERTY, IN MY OPINION, SHOULDN'T HAVE A HOME AT ALL. I THINK THAT SOUTHLAKE HAS BEEN, SOME OF THE OTHER THAT WE WITNESSED TONIGHT, SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS Y'ALL PUTTING IN PLACE ARE ALLOWING, IS TAKING UP THIS PRECIOUS LAND THAT ABSORBS THAT WATER. AND ALL IT'S DOING IS PUSHING IT OUT EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY. FLOODING EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY. THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE DOES NOT EVEN DREDGE OUR FRONT DITCHES. IF YOU COME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CUPBOARDS ARE ALMOST COMPLETELY FILLED WITH SOOT AND WATER. I MEAN, SOOT AND DIRT AND GRASS. I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANY TIMES ABOUT THAT. [04:00:01] IT'S DONE NOTHING. SO WE HAVE THIS HUGE PROBLEM THAT'S NOT BEING ADDRESSED, AND ALL Y'ALL ARE DOING IS LOOKING AT THESE PROPERTIES AND SEEING MONEY. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE GETTING SOME KICKBACK FROM SOME OF THIS. DEVELOPERS ARE NOT, KIND OF FEELS LIKE IT. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL PROVEN ALL OF THIS. LET'S STICK ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN SOUTH LAKE. LIKE THE OTHER GUY SAID, THIS IS MEANT FOR AGRICULTURAL, BIG PROPERTIES. AND WE'RE JUST TAKING AWAY EVERYTHING THAT SOUTH LAKE WAS HERE FOR. SO I DON'T THINK ANYTHING SHOULD GO ON THIS PROPERTY. I THINK IT SHOULD BE TAKEN BACK. IT SHOULD BE USED TO START WORKING SOME OF THAT. WATER IS BEING DUMPED ON US. THANK YOU. SIR, I WOULD SAY THANK YOU, BUT WHEN YOU START INSINUATING ABOUT KICKBACKS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CROSSING THE LINE. SO I KNOW YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM, BUT TO INSINUATE THAT ABOUT ANYONE UP HERE ON THE DAIS IS OFFENSIVE AND NOT APPRECIATED, BUT I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK REGARDING 7A? ALL RIGHT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 7A. COUNCIL, THERE'S A FEW ITEMS, YOU KNOW, TALKING POINTS. I THINK THE DIFFERENT NUMBER OF LOTS, THREE VERSUS FOUR THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US, WHETHER IT'S THE SLIP DRIVE, SOMEONE BROUGHT UP GARAGES, SIDE FACING. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE HOA. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE 10-FOOT SIDE SETBACK THAT I THINK COUNCILMEMBER FOX BROUGHT UP. SO I'LL THROW THOSE SORT OF FOUR TALKING POINTS OPEN, OR THREE OR FOUR. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THAT DISCUSSION, I WONDER IF I HAD EMAILED THE CITY MANAGER SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED WITH US, I THINK ALL OF US, INCLUDING THE PICTURES, AND ASKED HER IF SOMEONE FROM PUBLIC WORKS COULD SPEAK TO THE FLOODING ISSUE THAT WAS ILLUSTRATED IN THOSE PICTURES AND WHAT THESE NEIGHBORS HAVE BROUGHT UP. I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. RIGHT, SO I THINK THE EMAIL YOU'RE REFERRING TO HAD SOME PHOTOS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT JUNE 2019 FLOOD. YEAH, SO THE ONES THAT ARE SHOWING THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE ARE ACTUALLY THE DUB CREEK CROSSING IN NORTH CARROLL. AND THEN THE ONE THAT'S SHOWING THE STILL PHOTO OF THE VIDEO, IT'S HARD TO DISCERN WHERE THAT WAS PHYSICALLY TAKEN, IF THAT WAS THIS PROPERTY BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. GEOREFERENCING AND YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN YOU KNOW SIX SEVEN YEARS THAT PHOTO WAS TAKEN. IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. THERE IS LOCALIZED FLOODING ALONG NORTH CARROLL THERE. YOU KNOW IT'S A RURAL CROSS-SECTION. YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT REALLY FAR DITCHES. THAT CROSSING IS A CRITICAL DRAINAGE STRUCTURE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2026 APPROVED CIP PLAN IT IS SHOWN AS A FUTURE PROJECT IN THE OUT YEARS. IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A CRITICAL DRAINAGE STRUCTURE NUMBER NINE. BACK IN 1995 WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THOSE CRITICAL DRAINAGE STRUCTURES ANALYSIS, AND IT HAPPENS TO BE PRIORITY NUMBER NINE AS WELL, THAT'S JUST A COINCIDENCE. BUT IT IS OUR FIVE YEAR CIP TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP WITH SOME OF THE LOCALIZED FLOODING ADJACENT TO NORTH CARROLL. WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS ON LOCK. MY VOICE CARRIES. TAKE PLEASURE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO THIS DRAINS BASICALLY STRAIGHT BACK. FOR THE MOST PART, AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO BARGE ALONG THE ROAD, RIGHT? WILL FICTA DEVELOPERS ARE DOING ANYTHING TO MITIGATE DRAINAGE? IN YOUR OPINION, IS THERE GOING TO BE AN IMPACT ON THE WATER FLOW? WELL, WITH IT BEING FEMA-REGULATED FLOODWAY, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN ANALYSIS OF WHATEVER IS PROPOSED. AND WHAT DOES THAT ANALYSIS HAVE TO PROVE? THAT THERE WOULD BE NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE FEMA-REGULATED FLOODWAY. AND ALL OF THE WATER IS DRAINING TO THE FEMA-REGULATED FLOODWAY? CORRECT, YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE ON HERE THAT THERE IS A SEMBLANCE OF BARGE ALONG NORTH CARROLL. THIS DOES TRACK WITH EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY. SO THAT DOES EVENTUALLY MAKE IT TO, YOU KNOW, DOVE CREEK AT THE PETTICOAT DRAINAGE [04:05:01] STRUCTURE CROSSING NORTH OF HERE. YEAH, GENERALLY THIS PROPERTY GENERALLY DRAINS FROM EAST TO WEST. AND THEN DOVE CREEK, YOU KNOW, IT CONVEYS TO THE NORTH AND THEN ON TO THE EAST. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? WOULD THERE EVER BE A CONSIDERATION FOR THIS TO HAVE SOME SORT OF RETAINING WALL OR RIPRAP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ALONG THE CREEK? THERE'S FIVE FEET OF FALL BETWEEN WHAT LOOKS LIKE WOULD BE THE BUILDING ENVELOPE TO THE CREEK, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT EROSION CONTROL. AND IF THAT'S REQUIRED, DOES THAT THEN PENALIZE ANYBODY UPSTREAM THAT THEN DOESN'T HAVE THAT? SO WHENEVER YOU'RE DOING WORK LIKE THAT, IT STAYS IN THE FEMA REGULATED FLOOD LANE. THAT'S WHAT THE MODEL IS FOR, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO ADVERSE IMPACTS EITHER TO THIS EXISTING PROPERTY OR THE STREAM OR DOWN. AND THAT'S NOT ONLY REVIEWED BY CITY. THAT WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO TO FEMA. I GET THAT FROM A BUILDABLE STANDPOINT. BUT WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK YOU HAVE 80 FEET OR 125 FEET OF DEPTH TO YOUR LOT, AND THEN OVER TIME YOU HAVE. 100 FEET. RIGHT. YEAH, AND IF YOU READ OUR ORDINANCE, I MEAN, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE LOOKED AT AS WELL IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DEDICATING A NUMBER OF DRAINAGE EASEMENTS TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THERE WILL BE PRESENTED TO WHOEVER DEVELOPED IN TERMS OF WHAT IT CAN DO TO THE MEDIA. THANKS, JEFF. APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON... TO DO WITH THIS ONE AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT? YES, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, IF WE CAN GO BACK TO ANY OF THE BOTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE, THAT'S FINE THERE TOO. WE TALKED ABOUT DRAINAGE IN THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN, AND THE REASON WHY WE VOTED ON IT UNANIMOUSLY RECENTLY IS BECAUSE WE I HOPE THAT WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH STORMWATER IN THE AREA. THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS. SO WHEN WE HEAR WORDS LIKE REGIONAL ISSUES AND STUFF, THIS IS A LOCAL ISSUE. I'VE BEEN BACK THERE. I'VE BEEN UP TO THE GIGANTIC, THE RETENTION POND JUST NORTH OF THE CENTRAL NEW ZEALAND AREA IS ENORMOUS. AND IT IS CURRENTLY, WELL BEFORE TODAY, KEPT AT ONE INCH OF FREE WATER, ONE INCH. SO EVERY TIME IT RAINS, THE WATER FLOWS OUT. EVERY SINGLE GALLON THAT GOES IN THE RAIN COMES OUT. SO IT ALL HITS THIS LAND. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND I SEE HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO THE FLOOD ZONE, IT'S NOT THE PROPERTY'S FAULT, BUT IT IS. IT'S JUST HOW IT IS. THIS PARTICULAR LAND, THE NATURAL CONFINES OF THAT FLOOD PLAIN, MAKES LOT ONE, IN ESSENCE, AN 8,400 SQUARE FOOT LOT. AND TO ME, THAT'S HIGH DENSITY. WE'RE ALREADY AT HIGH DENSITY. IF THIS WAS A TWO-LOT DEVELOPMENT, I COULD POSSIBLY SEE IT BECAUSE WHEN YOU AVERAGE THOSE THREE LOTS TOGETHER, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 23,288 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING ENVELOPE AT THAT POINT IN TIME. BUT IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT. WELL, IN THAT CASE, YOU'RE OKAY. BUT THESE CURRENT ONES THAT WE HAVE, ONE, TWO, AND THREE, IF WE GO TO 15-YARD SIDE SETBACKS, THEN THAT MAKES THE BUILDING ENVELOPE EVEN SMALLER. SO I DO THINK THE DRAINAGE IS AN ISSUE THERE. AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET BEHIND THE THREE LOTS. I'M SORRY. I COULD SEE POTENTIALLY TWO. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE SO CLOSE. THIS IS THE CAUSE OF THE GUYS, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. THANKS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, AND DENNIS, YOU MAY KNOW THIS, AND I APOLOGIZE IF WE SHOWED IT EARLIER. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE ORIGINAL HOUSE WAS THAT WAS BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY? WAS IT WHERE LOT 3 IS? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EVIDENCE. THE, UM, YEAH, OH, NO, THE RESIDENTS KNOW WHERE TO GO. OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH, BYE. JEFF JUST HANDED ME INFORMATION. [04:10:14] WELL, I LIKE THE... THREE LOTS BETTER THAN THE FOUR LOTS EVEN THOUGH THE FOUR LOTS FOR ONE ACRES. THREE LOTS ALL 51,000 SQUARE FEET OR BIGGER, 8,000 SQUARE FEET BIGGER THAN ONE ACRE LOTS. I APPLAUD THE APPLICANT FOR MAKING THESE CHANGES. I THINK AS FAR AS THE SLIP DRIVE THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE DEPICTED, IT WAS A GOOD SUGGESTION BY P&Z. I DON'T THINK I LIKE THE SEPARATE DRIVEWAYS COMING ON AT CARROLL. GARAGES BEING SIDE FACING I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD ADDITION TO THE MOTION OVER SIDE SETBACKS. I'M OKAY WITH, I THINK WITH COUNCILMEMBER FOX SUGGESTING A 15 FOOT SIDE SETBACK. SO I WOULD, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT BEING CHANGED FROM WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THREE VERSUS FOUR LOTS, SLIP DRIVE. RAJ IS SIDE FACING 15 FOOT SIDE SETBACKS. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH, I MEAN THIS IS NOT HIGH DENSITY, BUT WE'VE GOT 51,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. THIS IS LOW DENSITY. TALK ABOUT FLOODING AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, IT'S A TOTAL ACRE TYPE. 7.3 ACRES. JUST A LITTLE OVER 7. 7.3 ACRES. AND YOU'VE GOT, ACCORDING TO THIS PLAN, 46,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING ON THE WAY. WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE AT ALL. YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT MAYBE 22,000 SQUARE FEET OF AVAILABLE SPACE. SO I THINK THAT THE IMPACT FROM A FLOODING STANDPOINT IS GOING TO BE NOMINAL. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE'D SEE THAT WITH THE STUDY ON THAT. I HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM. MY CONCERN WITH A 15 FOOT SETBACK IS LOT 1. I DON'T THINK YOU WANT LOT 1'S BUILDING ENVELOPE SO SMALL THAT IT KIND OF DWARFS, IT'S DWARFED BY THE OTHER TWO. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CRAZY TO GO 12 AND A HALF TO KIND OF MEET THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE TWO, TO GET A LITTLE SOMETHING THERE TO GET THAT. BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHAT'S AN AVERAGE? SLAB, I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING AN ENVELOPE LIKE THIS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE GOT 8,400 SQUARE FOOT OF BUILDING ENVELOPE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO POUR AN 08,400 SQUARE FOOT SLAB, I WOULDN'T THINK. NO, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A TWO-STORY HOUSE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I MEAN, EVEN A FAIRLY LARGE HOME, TYPICAL SOUTHLAND HOME OF 6,000 SQUARE FEET, THE FIRST FLOOR, BECAUSE IT'S CURRENTLY 35 FEET. SO YOU SAID THEY'RE ALL 5,000 FEET. 50,000 OR 50,000. I'D BE OKAY WITH 12 AND A HALF. I THINK THE BIG RIDE IS NOT FACING CARROLL. IT'S FINE. THEY DO A THIRD ONE. NO CAR AT 10. IT'S NICE AS LONG AS IT'S NOT BEHIND THE TWO CARS. DID I SAY THE SAME THING? NO. I'M FINE WITH THAT PART TOO. I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW. NOT TO OVER COMPLICATE THE SETBACKS, BUT WHAT I'M SENSITIVE TO IS MR. QUINN'S COMMENT AND THE RELATIVE, THE RELATIVENESS TO HIS PROPERTY. LOT 1 IS JUST UP AGAINST HOA LAND, AND SO IT'S REALLY NOT BUDDING ANYTHING. SO IF YOU HAVE A 15 FOOT BETWEEN 1 AND 2, BETWEEN 2 AND 03, IF WE DECIDE TO GO A 3 LOT ROUTE, THAT GAINS ANY TRACTION. AND THEN... ON THREE YOU HAVE A 20 FOOT SETBACK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN BECAUSE IT IT HELPS THAT RESIDENT AND IT DOESN'T PENALIZE ANYBODY ON THE NORTH SO YOU GO 15, 15, 20, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S RIGHT TOP TO BOTTOM. THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE THE NORTH OF THAT SHOULD NOT BE DEVELOPED AS H-O-A-R-N. THAT'S A GOOD CATCH. SO, IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY, YOU'RE SAYING 10 FOOT SIDE SETBACKS ON 1, 15, I'M SAYING 10, KEEP IT AS IS ON 1. OKAY. BETWEEN 1 AND 2, 15. BETWEEN 2 AND 3, 15. AND THEN ON 3, 20 FEET. SO BETWEEN 1 AND 2, YOU'RE SAYING YOUR TOTAL WOULD BE [04:15:01] 25, BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING 15 FOOT SIDEBACKS ON LOT 2, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH, SO HE SAID 15, BUT THAT WOULD BE SMALLER THAN THAT. HE'S TRYING TO LEAVE LOT 1, I THINK. IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT. SO YOU WANT 10-FOOT SETBACKS ON SIDE SETBACKS ON ONE, 15-FOOT SIDE SETBACKS ON TWO, AND 20-FOOT SIDE SETBACKS ON THREE? JUST ON THE SOUTH END OF THE THREE. JUST ON THE SOUTH END OF THE THREE. I GOT YOU. MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS YOU'RE REALLY NARROWING DOWN PLOT THREE. I REALIZE IT'S DEEPER THAN THE TWINS PLOT NEXT TO IT, EVEN BUILDABLE. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT 15 ON ONE SIDE AND 20 ON THE OTHER SIDE. THAT'S 35 OUT OF 100 FOOT WIDTH. THAT ONLY LEAVES YOU 65. I THINK 10S ON ONE, BUT 15S ON THE OTHER MIGHT BE A GOOD COMPROMISE, BUT THE 20, I THINK, IS EXCESSIVE. I THINK THAT KIND OF BACKS UP. THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT REALISTICALLY, TWO LOTS, I THINK THEY'RE FIT BETTER IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO ANY BUILDING THERE AT ALL. BECAUSE NATURALLY, LOT ONE IS A VERY, VERY TINY LOT. I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS EIGHT ACRES OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT WE'RE REALISTICALLY TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPABLE LAND ON THE FLIP OF THE LAND ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN. SO WHEN YOU START SQUEEZING IT, IT GETS TIGHT. AND THE ONLY WAY TO RELIEVE THAT IS PUT TWO HOUSES. WELL, BUT... YOUR CHARACTERISTIC OF IT'S AN 8400 SQUARE FOOT LOT IS NOT CORRECT. THAT'S ONLY WITHIN THE SETBACK. YEAH, I GET THAT. BUT I HONESTLY DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY LOSE SOME OF THAT LAND. ANOTHER THING ABOUT LOT ONE, A GOOD THING ABOUT LOT ONE IS THE CREEK TURNS HERE. SO, LOT ONE, YES YOU CAN'T BUILD A BUILDING THERE, BUT YOU CAN USE THAT AS A BACKYARD FOR ANYTHING THAT'S A STRUCTURE. SO, THE ACTUAL LIVABLE SPACE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE CREEK OF LOT ONE IS... YEAH, I MEAN ASSUMING THAT FLOODPLAIN LINE IS EXACTLY 100% IN THAT LOCATION TODAY BASED ON FLOODPLAIN DATA OF WHEN THAT LINE WAS DRAWN, WHICH IS MORE THAN LIKELY, MY GUESS, COULD VERY POTENTIALLY BE PRIOR TO THE RETENTION POND NORTH OF THAT BEING PUT IN PLACE AS WELL. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT FEMA MAP WAS USED FOR THAT. FLOODPLAIN LIFE COULD BE FAIRLY OLD AND WE HAVE HAD DRAINAGE ISSUES SINCE THEN, SO IT'S CHANGED. WELL, I CAN BRING UP OUR CIVIL ENGINEER IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO HIM. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, HE STUDIED FLOODPLAIN. COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE ACTUAL FLOODPLAIN. ANYTHING ON OUR SIDE OF THE BOOK COULD BE BUILT UP AND PROTECTED FURTHER. I WAS BUILDING ON LOT 1. THIS IS THE STUDY FOR ANECDOTAL TALKS BY, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT CAN FIX A LOT OF THINGS. YOU CAN PROPERLY GRADE AND DRAIN THESE KIND OF LOTS TO ELIMINATE THE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, INCIDENTAL FLOODING THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE NO ONE'S REFINED. BUT, YOU KNOW, LOT ONE HAS A GREAT BACKYARD AS WELL. I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GOING OVERBOARD ON THE SIDE SETBACK. WHAT IF WE DID, AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO OVERCOMPLICATE IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THIS STUFF MATTERS. SO, AGAIN, AND THIS MAY SOUND A LITTLE EGREGIOUS, BUT, AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING NORTH OF HERE. SO WHAT IF YOU MADE THAT SETBACK ON THE NORTH SIDE? 5 FEET AND SHIFTED IT UP TO GET HIM 20 FEET THERE. OH, SHIFTED THE... THE BROAD RAIL? I LIKE THE 5 FOOT ON THE OTHER SIDE. THAT IS OPEN. SO YOU'RE SAYING 5 FEET THERE, THEN 15 FEET ON THE REST, AND THEN 20 ON THE BOTTOM. THINK ABOUT IT. EVEN THE CIVIL. WE JUST NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. CLAYTON REDINGER, REDINGER 552. AS FAR AS THE FLOODPLAIN, THERE'S ONLY ONE MAPPED FLOODPLAIN, [04:20:02] AND THAT FEMA MANAGES THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, THE UPSTREAM DETENTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY COULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THIS PROPERTY SUFFER AS A RESULT OF IT. IT'S DOWNSTREAM TO US. IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT THE AGE OR THAT THIS FLOODPLAIN IS THE FLOODPLAIN IS CURRENTLY. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT NECESSARILY IS NOT THE CURRENT FLOODPLAIN THAT'S ON THE MAP. BUT IT MAY NOT BE THE CURRENT FLOODPLAIN THAT'S THERE TODAY AS FAR AS WHERE FLOODING WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN. IN THE CASE OF THE RETENTION POND THAT'S NORTH, THERE'S NO FREEBOARD IN THAT RETENTION POND GENERALLY, AT LEAST THE TIMES THAT I'VE BEEN THERE TO VISIT AFTER IT'S. RAIN, NOT RAIN FOR THREE OR FOUR WEEKS EVEN. SO IN REALITY, THAT THING'S FLOODING EVERY TIME IT ACTUALLY RAINS. SO IT REALLY WOULD BE AN INTERESTING QUESTION TO FIND OUT WHERE THE FLOODPLAIN ACTUALLY IS. SO I WOULD JUST RELY ON EYEWITNESSES ON THAT JUST TO SEE IF THAT PLAN HAS FLOODED IN THE PAST. EITHER WAY, WE CAN GO WITH THE BLUE LINE IS THE LINE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. YEAH, JUST 340. WELL, BY OUR OWN CITY CODE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ALLOW 12 INCHES OF FREEBOARD. YEAH, THAT'S WHEN THE POND'S FULL AT 100-YEAR FLOOD. AT 100-YEAR FLOOD, STILL HAVE 12 INCHES OF FREEBOARD LEFT. YEAH, WATER'S FLOWING OUT. SO IF IT HASN'T RAINED IN LIKE FOUR WEEKS AND THERE'S ONE INCH OF SPACE LEFT BEFORE IT OVERFLOWS, THEN THAT MEANS THAT EVERY TIME IT RAINS, IT'S GOING TO OVERFLOW, RIGHT? WELL, I BET IF YOU LOOKED AT THE WEIR, THE WATER FLOWS OVER THE... AND ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS WHILE WE'RE UP HERE? I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR ABOUT WHEN THE OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S MORE BUILDING HERE. AND BECAUSE THERE'S MORE BUILDING HERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE RUNOFF. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST REALITY. HOW IS THAT WATER GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, AND WHEN WILL THAT BE ADDRESSED IN THE PROCESS? WE'RE AT THE DOWNSTREAM END OF 950 ACRES THAT HAVE BEEN EITHER DEVASTATED OR JUST AS MUCH OF A VICTIM AS WE'VE DONE THE STUDY. 300 ACRES GOES THROUGH. CHANGES THAT WE MAKE, PROPERTIES. SO YOUR PLAN IS TO DO, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO LET IT GO INTO THE FLOODPLAIN. IS THAT ACCURATE? IT'S HELPFUL TO DO THAT, ACTUALLY, FOR THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS. THE WATERSHED IS DIVIDED INTO TWO. WE'RE THE BIGGER PART, BUT THE PART THAT COMES OUT OF... MAYOR PRO TEM ROBBINS, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION ON FIRST READING ON 7A. WHAT DO WE DECIDE ON THE SETBACKS? OKAY. YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO BRING THIS UP JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T EARLIER, AND THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION FOR US. YEAH. I MAY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ENGINEER. I GUESS SHAME ON ME FOR NOT READING THE LINES ON THE MAP BETTER. I WAS LOOKING AT THE AERIAL MAP, THE SATELLITE MAP, TRYING TO FIND OUT SOME OF THE ISSUES WERE. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT'S DOVE CREEK RIGHT THERE. I MEAN, THERE'S NO GIANT BACKYARD FLOODPLAIN THAT'S GOING TO ABSORB THE RUNOFF FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT'S GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE CREEK IMMEDIATELY. AND DOES THAT CREEK GO INTO CARILLON OR DOES CARILLON GO INTO IT? NO, CARILLON DISCHARGES INTO DOVE CREEK DOWNSTREAM. IT DOES NOT, CARILLON DOES NOT DISCHARGE INTO THE REGION. THAT'S THE REASON THAT CROSSING THAT YOU SAID IS A CRITICAL ISSUE. RIGHT, BUT THAT WAS A CRITICAL DRAINAGE STRUCTURE ISSUE EVEN PRIOR TO CAROLINA BEING BUILT. I WOULD DO THAT. [04:25:02] SO THIS GIVES ME MORE HEARTBURN ABOUT THE DRAINAGE THAN I HAVE WHEN I SAT DOWN AFTER LOOKING AT THIS EARLIER. AND LISTENING TO COUNCILMEMBER TAGGART'S POINT ABOUT HOW SMALL A LOT ONE'S SPACE, ACTUAL BUILDING SPACE IS, IT MAKES ME WONDER WHETHER OR NOT IT IS WORTH THE DISCUSSION OF. IS THREE LOTS? DO YOU REALLY LIKE THIS PROPERTY? I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO AS FAR AS SETBACKS? WE'LL START WITH A MOTION ON THREE AND THEN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AFTER THAT. IF YOU'RE 5, 10, 15, 15, 15, 20, I DON'T KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SHRINKING LOT ONE SOME, AND YOU'VE GOT WELL OVER AN ACRE, SO YOU'RE STILL, YOU'VE GOT TO THINK FOR SHRINKING THAT LOT SOME TO MOVE EVERYTHING UP, I GUESS. IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH. THE IDEA IS JUST TO SHIFT THE SITE PLAN UP FIVE FEET, YOU KNOW, AND THEN A GOOD QUESTION FOR YOU WOULD BE HOW FAR OFF OF THIS. PROPERTY LINE IS THE SOUTHERN HOUSE. DO WE HAVE A WIND AREA OR ANYTHING THAT SHOWS US THAT AT ALL? YES, WHAT THAT SETBACK IS THERE? YEAH, JUST EDUCATED, OR UNEDUCATED, GIVE AN EXCUSE. PROBABLY 15 TO 20 FEET OFF OF WHERE THAT FENCE LINE IS. MAYBE CLOSER TO 20. SO IF YOU HAD 20 FEET... ...BACK TO THAT LOCK FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ON THAT SIDE? A MORE PRECISE MEASUREMENT ON THAT IS ESTIMATING ABOUT 30 FEET. 30? YEAH. WOULD IT BE REASONABLE TO GO 10, 10, 15, 15, 10, 20? SO YOU'RE GIVING MORE OF A CUSHION TO ME. IF THAT NEIGHBOR'S 30 FEET OFF THE LINE, 15 IS PRETTY GOOD. BUT IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I WAS FINE WITH THE BIGGER SIDE SETBACKS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FOX BROUGHT UP. YEAH, THE WILDLIFE AT 15. MAYBE NOT ON NUMBER ONE, LEAVE NUMBER ONE ALONE. YEAH. BUT THEN ON LOT TWO, 15, 15, ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT. AND THEN MAYBE LEAVE IT AS 10 AND THEN 20 ON THE SOUTH OF THREE. YEAH, WOULD THAT BE REASONABLE? WOULD THAT BE? OF COURSE, CURTIS, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO COME BACK, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE SUGGEST TONIGHT ON FIRST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL PASS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE STATE OF THE STATE. WE'D ASK YOU TO REDRAW IT SO WE CAN SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH WHATEVER NUMBERS WE PUT IN THERE FOR SECOND READING. I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. WITH THOSE POSSESSIONS, I'M GOING TO MOVE IT FORWARD TONIGHT, BUT I'M NOT PROMISING YOU THAT I'LL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT ON SECOND READING. I'D LIKE TO... I HEAR MORE ANSWERS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE. THAT'LL BE YOUR HOMEWORK. PARDON? THAT'LL BE THEIR HOMEWORK. [04:30:03] ALL RIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM ROBBINS, LET'S TRY A MOTION. I THINK YOU GOT ALL THOSE NUMBERS AND NOTES AND ALSO NOTING HOMEWORK ON DRAINAGE, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM 7A, ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-847-ZA26-0027, FIRST READ. ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 1360 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS TRAC 4AAH CHIVERS SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 299 AND LOCATED AT 1360 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE. SUBJECT TO STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 22, 2026. AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER 3 DATED MAY 22, 2026. APPROVING THE ARPUD ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITHIN A... APPROXIMATE AVERAGE LOT AREA OF 51,469 SQUARE FEET AND ONE OPEN SPACE LOT. THE APPROVAL OF DRIVEWAY PLAN NUMBER ONE SHOWN TONIGHT WITH GARAGES NOT FACING CARROLL UNLESS IT'S THE SINGLE GARAGE OF A THREE-CAR GARAGE THAT WILL BE HIDDEN FROM VIEW. WE WILL DO... 10-FOOT SETBACKS ON LOT 1, 15, 10-FOOT SIDE SETBACKS ON LOT 1, 15-FOOT SIDE SETBACKS ON LOT 2, A 10-FOOT SIDE SETBACK ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF LOT 3, AND A 20-FOOT SIDE SETBACK ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF LOT 3. ANYTHING ELSE? YES. WE GOT EVERYTHING? YES. PULSE REPORTS AND SKIS I GUESS, AND VERY IMPORTANT. ALRIGHT. AND IF THEY'RE WEARING A SKI, THEY NEED TO BE IN VERY GREAT. THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR HOMEWORK IS. YEAH. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON 7A. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES ON 7A. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES 4-3. FOR FIRST READING, WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE FOR SECOND READING. IF YOU COULD COME BACK FOR SECOND READING WITH ANY CLARITY ON WHAT YOU THINK YOUR BUILDING PAD SIZE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS WELL. BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, IT'S JUST SO BIG. AND THAT'S BECAUSE IF YOU WERE GOING TO BUILD THAT MUCH CONCRETE, THEN IT'S A NO. [7.B. Ordinance No. 480-798a, ZA26-0030, 1st Reading, Zoning Change and Site Plan for 8850 Davis Boulevard on property described as Lot 1, Block 1, By Faith Addition and located at 8850 Davis Boulevard. Current Zoning: “S-P-1” Detailed Site Plan District. Requested Zoning: “S-P-1” Detailed Site Plan District. SPIN Neighborhood #10. ] IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE ALL OF THAT BUILDING, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT MAYBE AS HOMEWORK YOU COULD COME BACK WITH SOME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GUYS. NEXT UP, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 7B, ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-798A, CASE NUMBER Z826-0030, FIRST READING ZONE CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR 8850 DAVIS BOULEVARD. DIRECTOR KILLOUGH. THANK YOU. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS A REQUEST TO ADD PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE O1 OFFICE DISTRICT TO THE CURRENT SB2 ZONING THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR CS COMMUNITY SERVICE DISTRICT, AND IN PARTICULAR FOR ART AND CRAFT SCHOOL THAT ALLOWED FOR RETAIL SALES WITHIN THAT FACILITY. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. THIS WAS FORMERLY A CHURCH. APPLIED IT IS BY FAITH BAPTIST CHURCH ADDITION. THE PROPERTY IS MIXED USE OF A LAND USE PLAN WITH 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN OVERLAY. THIS IS THE CURRENT EXISTING FLOODPLAIN PER THE FEMA MAP TODAY, WHICH HAS SLIGHTLY MODIFIED SINCE THE FLOODPLAIN HAD BEEN ADJUSTED ON THE... SO THEY SIGNED HIS PLAN. THIS IS THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY, SP1. THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED OUT. STREET VIEW FROM DAVIS BOULEVARD. THAT PROPOSES NO PHYSICAL ADDITIONS OR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE. THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN PRESENTED AND APPROVED WITH THE CURRENT SP1 ZONING. AS A SITE DATA SUMMARY, I'LL POINT [04:35:02] OUT THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF THE BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 01,269 SQUARE FEET. THE NET FLOOR AREA OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS THE ZONING ORDINANCE, DEFINES FLOOR AREA. IT'S THE INTERIOR WALLS OF THE BUILDING, AND IT EXCLUDES OUT ANY UNOCCUPIED SPACE. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 987 SQUARE FEET FLOOR AREA. IT CURRENTLY USES UNDER ZONING ALL THE CS COMMUNITY SERVICE DISTRICT USES. AND THEN IT INCLUDED ART STUDIO WITH INSTRUCTIONAL CLASSES AND LIMITED RETAIL. AND IT ALSO INCLUDED OUTDOOR MARKET, ART RELATED SALES. THESE EVENTS WOULD OCCUR IN OPEN AIR PARK AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AND ON LAWN AREAS. THEY WOULD OCCUR MONTHLY OR EVERY OTHER MONTH ON WEEKENDS BETWEEN HOURS OF 10, 10 A.M. AND 3. THE TENANT THAT WAS CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THAT BUILDING LEFT AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, AND THE BUILDING IS SET VACANT AND PROPERTY OWNER. REACHED OUT TO STAFF HAVING BEEN CONTACTED BY SEVERAL ENTITIES THAT WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE OF THIS SIZE TO RENT FOR SOME OF THE USES THAT HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED HERE. AND HE REQUESTED A ZONING APPLICATION THAT THE ONE OFFICE DISTRICT USES TO ALSO INCLUDE A LOCAL HOME RENOVATION COMPANY AND FOR CUSTOMER. CONSULTATION, LOCAL GENERAL CONTRACTOR ALSO FOR SAME SERVICE PROVIDING, AND THEN LOCAL BUILDING MATERIALS SALES BUSINESS FOR SHOWROOM AND ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE INCLUDING SAMPLE DISPLAYS AND CUSTOMER CONSULTATION. ADDITIONALLY, THEY'VE REQUESTED THE ADDITION OF A COUPLE OF C2 USES. FROM THE HEALTH SERVICES FACILITY SPECIFICALLY, ONLY PERMITTED SPORTS-RELATED THERAPY AND HOME HEALTH-RELATED SERVICES. PLANTING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVED THE REQUEST 6-0, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT AND THE REVIEW SUMMARY THAT WAS PRESENTED. I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE STUDENT IS STILL WITH US. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW DO WE CONTROL HOW MUCH GOES IN THERE? I MEAN, IS IT ANY ONE OF THOSE THINGS, OR COULD IT BE SEVERAL OF THOSE THINGS? THE SPACE IS CURRENTLY NOT DEMISED, AND I THINK IN THE APPLICANTS' DISCUSSION WITH YOU, I THINK WE... THEY'VE NOT PROVIDED US ANYTHING INDICATING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE BUILDING BY ADDING ADDITIONAL INGRESS, EGRESS, OR DEMISING OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S A CONCERN. THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING YOU CAN CONSIDER AS A CONDITION OF THE ZONING AS TO WHETHER IT CAN ONLY BE SINGLE TENANT OR IF IT WOULD BE OPEN FOR MULTI-TENANT IF THAT'S A CONCERN. IT WOULD BE BETTER TO ADDRESS WHETHER THAT'S THEIR INTENT OR THEY'VE ONLY HAD A SINGLE TENANT OR POTENTIALLY LOOK AT IT. IT'S NOT VERY MUCH SPACE, AND SO I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S SUITED AS IT IS FOR JUST AS MORE THAN A SINGLE TENANT ANYWAY. AND THAT'S HOW I'VE GOT TO CLARIFY THAT. DENNIS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE POST? SO IS THERE ANYTHING RESTRICTING US FROM APPROVING THE PROPOSED? ...POSED USES TO REMOVING THE COMMUNITY SERVICE DISTRICT USES. BUT WITH THE ZONING BEING BEFORE YOU, YOU CERTAINLY HAD THE ABILITY TO DISCUSS CHANGES OR REMOVAL USES WITH THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE. LET'S SAY THAT HAPPENED AND THE CS WAS REMOVED BUT THE OTHERS WERE APPROVED. THE APPLICANTS, IF THEY WANTED TO DO IT, AREN'T... STUDIO INSTRUCTIONAL CLASSES OR AN OUTDOOR MARKET THEY COULD APPLY FOR AN SUP FOR THAT ANYWAY RIGHT IN THIS CASE THEY COULD NOT IF THAT USE WAS REMOVED BECAUSE THERE [04:40:01] EXISTS THE ZONING THEY HAD BEFORE THEY PUT IT IN THE SP DISTRICT WAS CS COMMUNITY SERVICE GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING COMMUNITY SERVICES THINK MAYBE ONE OF THE ONLY DISTRICTS THAT DOESN'T HAVE A FLOOR AREA FOR A BUILDING ONE REASON WHY I RETAINED THAT WAS HAVING IT IN PLACE WHEN THEY BROUGHT THE APPLICATION FORWARD. AND THEY ADDED THESE TWO USES FOR THAT PARTICULAR TENANT THAT HAD REACHED OUT TO THEM TO LEASE THAT SPACE. SO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY RETAIN THOSE AND THE SUP, IF APPLICANTS DON'T AGREE, HAVING HIS OWN... CERTAINLY YOU COULD ADDRESS ANYTHING IN THE CS EITHER IN PART OR IN WHOLE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE CONCERNS HERE AS IT IS. I MIGHT ADD, WITH THIS BEING AN SP1 DISTRICT, IT IS A DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT, SO THAT EXISTING SITE PLAN IS PART OF THE ZONING. EXPAND THE BUILDING OR A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO OTHER IMPROVEMENTS OR ADDITIONS TO THAT PROPERTY, THEY WOULD NEED TO COME BACK AND MAKE AMENDMENTS, ADD OR INCREASE. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, DIRECTOR KELO. SO FOR THE USE CASES ILLUSTRATED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS SLIDE OVER HERE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE DIFFERENT ONES FOR 01 AS WELL AS CT. THE PURPOSE RIGHT NOW FOR THE ZONING CHANGE IN THESE CASES IS BASICALLY WE ALLOW EITHER TYPE TO REALLY ATTRACT EITHER SORT OF TENANTS FOR MARKETING PURPOSES VERSUS A DIRECT TENANT IN MIND. YEAH, CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW SINCE HE'S ADDRESSED THIS WITH US WHETHER HE'S ENTERED INTO A SPECIFIC WAITING ON THIS. THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH HIM, THESE USES WERE DUE TO INQUIRIES THAT HE STARTED GETTING AS PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN BUILDING THEM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR, AS THE APPLICANT HERE. GOOD EVENING, OR GOOD MORNING, I GUESS, NOW. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. COME ON DOWN. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. FIELDS, 2803 WALSER COURT, SUNLAKE, TEXAS. MANAGER OF THIS BUILDING, RIGHT? THANK YOU, SIR. DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, DID YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SLIDESHOW OR ANYTHING, OR JUST YOUR QUESTIONS? I DON'T. IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, WHEN THE VIDEO MOVES... ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND AN ANSWER IS REALLY NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO LEAVE IT A LITTLE MORE BROAD SO THAT SOMEONE ELSE WAS ABLE TO ANSWER. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? GO AHEAD. THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONTACTED YOU, WERE ANY OF THEM INTERESTED IN THE COMMUNITY SERVICE KIND OF USES, LIKE THE ART STUDIO THAT WAS THERE OR THE OUTDOOR MARKET THAT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY? SO THEY ALL HAVE BEEN ON WHAT'S ON THE PROPOSED USES, NOT WHAT IT WAS CURRENTLY USED FOR, CORRECT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU HAVE AN ISSUE IF WE INCLUDED IN THE ZONING THAT IT COULD ONLY BE A SINGLE TENANT? I THINK THAT'S FINE. I COULDN'T IMAGINE SOMEONE... ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE AFTERNOON? GOOD IDEA. I'M A SINGLE TENANT, PARDON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON 7B. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 7B? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNSEL, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DIFFERENT USES? OH, WAIT. THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS, 10 PUBLIC HEARING NOTIFICATIONS AND NO RESPONSES. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE USES? COMMUNITY SERVICE USES VERSUS THE PROPOSED USES. [04:45:02] HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT THOSE? I THINK WE NEED TO PICK ONE. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CS GO AWAY AND THEN I'M GOOD WITH THE O1 AND C2. ALRIGHT. I AGREE. SO WE'LL GO WITH JUST THE PROPOSED O1 AND C2S AND THEN ALSO A NOTE ABOUT THE SINGLE TENANT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER FOX. WHEN YOU'RE READY, MAYOR PRO TEM ROBBINS WITH A MOTION ON 7B. AND JUST A CLARIFICATION, IF IT'S THE DESIRE IN THIS MOTION TO REMOVE THE CS PERMITTED USES, AS WELL AS THE ART STUDIO AND THE OUTDOOR MARKET, IF THAT COULD BE STATED JUST REMOVING ALL CS USES. BUT RETAINING THE CS DISTRICT REGULATIONS BECAUSE THOSE ESTABLISH THEIR SETBACKS, THEIR IMPERVIOUS COVERAGES AND BUILDING HEIGHTS AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY RETAINED THAT. GOOD CATCH. YEAH. BUT REMOVAL OF THE CS DISTRICT USES AND RETENTION. AND RETAINED CS DISTRICT REGULATIONS. THANK YOU, DENNIS. MR. MAYOR, I MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 7B, ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-798A, ZA 26-0030, FIRST STREET ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR 8850 DAVIS BOULEVARD ON PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOT 01, BLOCK 1, BY FATE CONDITION AND LOCATED AT 8850 DAVIS BOULEVARD. BOULEVARD SUBJECT TO STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 22, 2026 AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER 2 DATED MAY 1, 2026. NOTING THE APPROVAL OF ADDITIONAL O1 OFFICE DISTRICT AND C2 LOCAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT USES AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING, REMOVAL OF THE CS DISTRICT USES AND RETAINING THE CS DISTRICT REGULATION AND LIMITING UTILIZATION TO A SINGLE TENANT. AND CLARIFICATION, ART STUDIO, RETAIL, AND OUTDOOR MARKET. YEAH, THOSE WERE ADDED TO THE CS, AND IF YOUR INTENT IS TO REMOVE THOSE, YOU JUST NEED TO CLARIFY THAT IN MOTION. ALSO ADDING REMOVAL OF THE ART STUDIO WITH INSTRUCTIONAL CLASSES AND RETAIL AND AN OUTDOOR REMOVAL OF THE OUTDOOR MARKET. I THINK SO. DENNIS, GOOD. YES, SIR. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A [9.A. SV26-0006, Sign Variance for Sir Sweeney Barber Shop & Coffee Lounge, located at 2315 E. Southlake Boulevard, Suite 110. ] SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES ON 7B. THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0 ON FIRST READING. WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ITEM NUMBER 9A, CASE NUMBER SB26-0006, SIGNED VARIANTS FOR SIR SWEENEY BARBERSHOP AND COFFEE LOUNGE, LOCATED AT 2315 EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SUITE 110, RICK PILLOW. CITY COUNCILOR, THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE. THE TENANT SPACE IS IN THIS APPROXIMATE AREA OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. THIS IS THE FRONT EDGE OF THE BUILDING ON THE SIDE FACING SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD. THIS HAS GOT AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT FOR A SINGLE TENANT. THESE SPACES HERE, THERE IS AN ACCESSIBLE PATHWAY BETWEEN THE BARBER SHOP AND THE COFFEE SHOP. AND AS THIS PROPERTY ONLY HAVING A SINGLE CERTIFICATE FOR THE ENTIRE SPACE. THEY ARE ONLY PERMITTED ONE ATTACHED SIGN PER FACADE THAT'S FACING A DRIVEWAY. AND FOR A BUILDING, THEY'RE ALLOWED A TOTAL OF TWO, BUT NOT TWO ON A SINGLE FACADE. THEY HAVE INSTALLED A SIR SWINNEY SIGN, WHICH COMPLIES WITH THE CITY SIGN ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE AND THEY HAVE A LOGO FOR THEIR COFFEE SHOP. IT EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM LOGO SIZE PERMITTED AND THEN ADDITIONALLY [04:50:01] THE SEPARATION OF THOSE SIGNS, WE'VE CLASSIFIED IT AS A SEPARATE ATTACHED SIGN. THEREFORE, IT NEEDS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW TWO SIGNS ON THE FACADE AND A LOGO THAT IS LARGER THAN PERMITTED. LOCK ON VIEW. THE SIGN, THIS IS THE SPACE AS IT IS WITH THE EXISTING SIGN INSTALLED. THIS IS THE FRONTAGE OF THIS RETAIL BUILDING. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF... SOME OF THEIR OTHER ASSIGNED SIGNS USED IN OTHER LOCATIONS. SIGNBOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 4-1. THIS WAS TABLED AT THE LAST MEETING. I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMPANIES ARE ABLE TO ATTEND. GLAD TO ANSWER THAT. THANK YOU DENNIS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS ON THIS APPLICATION? ONE QUICK ONE. IF THEY WANTED TO PUT A LOGO ABOVE SIR SWEENEY, COULD THEY PUT ONE? ABOVE THE EXISTING SIGN? LET'S JUST SAY THEY BROUGHT TO US A SIGN. THAT WOULD APPLY. BASED ON THE SIGN FOR SIR SWEENEY, I THINK IT UTILIZED THE MAXIMUM. AMOUNT OF SIGN AREA THAT'S PERMITTED FOR THE ENTIRE LEASE SPACE. AND SO IT WOULD PUSH THAT SIGN OVER. THEY'D NEED A VARIANCE FOR ADDITIONAL AREA AS WELL AS THE LOGO. DENNIS, THIS IS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DENNIS? THANK YOU, DENNIS. THE APPLICANT HERE, LAST CASE OF THE NIGHT. COME ON DOWN. YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS AND I'M ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTHTWINI BARBERSHOP AND COFFEE LOUNGE AT 2315 EAST SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD, SUITE 110. ALRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF OTHER PRESENTATION OR JUST AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? NO, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE A... CHAMBER OF COMMERCE RIBBON CUTTING COMING UP SOON? IS THAT RIGHT? IS THERE A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY COMING UP? I THINK SO. I'M AT THE SAME COMPANY. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR STAYING LATE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. OH, WAIT, I HAVE A QUESTION. ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S FOR DENNIS. OKAY. DO WE ALLOW SIGNAGE OR... WAIT UP LETTERING PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY ON THE WINDOWS OR DOES THAT COUNT AS LOGO FRONTAGE SIGNAGE? THEY'RE ALLOWED 10% INFORMING WINDOW SIGNS. OKAY. THAT'S MY QUESTION. 10% OF THE WINDOW AREA, THE TOTAL WINDOW AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 9A DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK. SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SO WE'LL JUST SKIP PAST THAT. AND ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCIL? GO AHEAD, GARY. I AM NOT A FAN OF SIGN BARRIERS. ANYBODY THAT'S WATCHED ME KNOWS OR TALKED TO ME KNOWS THAT. AND I CAME IN, OR LAST WEEK I CAME IN, I TURNED THIS DOWN, BUT I WAS OVER AT THE STORE SUNDAY AND WAS ABLE TO LOOK INSIDE THE WINDOWS AND TAKE... IT IS DEVISED IN EVERY SENSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT PLANTED THAT WAY. THE WALL DIVIDING THE COFFEE SHOP FROM THE BARBERSHOP. THERE'S A DOOR THAT GOES IN BETWEEN, BUT IT IS A DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT SPACE IN MY MIND, AND SO I CAN SEE THE NEED TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE THE COFFEE SHOP IS. I'M NOT SURE THIS SETS THAT. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINION ON THE DESIGN. AND I THOUGHT ABOUT ASKING THEM TO MAKE IT SMALLER, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE VISIBLE. LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT NORMALLY A FAN, BUT I'M OKAY WITH SUPPORT. WOW. I HAD TO MAKE THAT SPEECH, RIGHT? WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT AT 12.15 A.M. THAT'S ALL GOOD. [04:55:01] ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM ROBBINS, LET'S DO A MOTION ON 9A. IN SERVICE OF OUR MOTION, WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 9A, SB 26-0006, ON THE RANCH FOR SIR SWEENEY BARBERSHOP AND COFFEE LOUNGE, LOCATED AT 2315 EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SUITE 110, SUBT. STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 11, 2026, NOTING APPROVAL OF AN ADDITIONAL ATTACHED BUSINESS SIGN ON THE NORTH ELEVATION FACING EAST-SOUTH LAKE BOULEVARD AND A LOGO THAT EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED HEIGHT, NOT TO EXCEED 4 FEET 3 INCHES. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 9A. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT MOTION CARRIES 7-0. 9A IS APPROVED. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? GOOD. MEETING ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.