Aug 06, 2026 Planning and Zoning Commission

AS NOTED, ITEM NUMBER 14 ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THAT ITEM IS WELCOME TO DO SO.

I THINK WE DID HAVE ONE COMMENT CARD.

NOT, NOT NECESSARILY SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, BUT SEEKING INFORMATION.

JASON PRESLEY AT 1335 FOREST LANE, SO YOU'RE EITHER WELCOME TO SPEAK NOW, OR YOU'RE WELCOME TO CATCH THE APPLICANT AFTER THE MEETING. EITHER WAY.

MY, MY QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH PROBABLY THE TREE CONSERVATION MAP THAT WAS UP HERE PREVIOUSLY, BECAUSE I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

SO, ARE THE HOUSES GOING TO BE, I GUESS, FRONT-LOADED TOWARDS THE STREET?

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IS THAT THE PLAN, I'M ASSUMING, FROM THE CIVIL ENGINEER? I KNOW IT'S REALLY EARLY FOR THE FOUNDATIONS TO BE SET, BUT, WELL, BASICALLY, AS MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THAT TREE AREA IS THE FLOODPLAIN AREA THAT ABUTS TO OUR PROPERTY, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT'S BEING HANDLED.

OKAY. MAYBE WE CAN CALL THE APPLICANT BACK UP TO ADDRESS THAT.

SURE.

AND IF YOU WANT EVEN MORE INFORMATION AFTER THEIR EXPLANATION, I'D CATCH YOU AFTER THE MEETING, AS WELL.

WE'LL ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS AFTER THE RESIDENTS. SO.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, HERE, HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER 14 IS STILL OPEN.

IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY OTHER QUICK QUESTIONS, IF THEY'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD OR COMMENTS.

AND SEEING NONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO, APOLOGIES.

I'LL SEE IF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T MIND COMING BACK UP AND ADDRESSING THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DOT THE I'S AND CROSS THE T'S CORRECTLY.

SO, THANK YOU.

SO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE TREES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE FLOODPLAIN, THEY SHOULD REMAIN.

NOW, WHAT THE HOMEOWNERS DO WITH THEM AFTER THEY PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE ZERO CONTROL OVER.

AND PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE PATCH THAT STILL KEEPS THE 41% TREE CANOPY THAT THE CITY REQUIRES, BUT GIVES US 15,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND, PLEASE TRY TO SPEAK KIND OF INTO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN GET IT FOR THE RECORD SORRY.

SO, THE CANOPY STUDY IS SHOWING THAT IT'S PROVIDING ALSO NOT JUST THE TREE CANOPIES, BUT BUILDING LOTS THAT KEEPS UP WITH 41% OF THE TREE CANOPY THAT CITY REQUIRES.

BUT WE HAVE ZERO INTENTIONS OF DOING ANYTHING ON THE FLOODPLAIN.

VERY GOOD.

DO YOU MIND IF I ASK YOU TO SPEAK WITH THAT RESIDENT, I GUESS, AFTER THIS CASE IS OVER, IF THEY HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS? SURE.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT HERE? OKAY.

OKAY, I APPRECIATE IT.

SO, WE'VE HAD OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

I GUESS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A VOTE ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT? OKAY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, EXCUSE ME, NUMBER ITEM 14 ON OUR AGENDA, ZA CASE ZA2650, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED JULY 31ST, 2026, AND ALSO SUBJECT TO PRELIMINARY PLAT REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER ONE, DATED JULY 31, 2026, AS PRESENTED.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

GOOD LUCK AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IF, DENNIS, MAYBE YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS, FOR THIS ITEM MIGHT BE SEPTEMBER 1ST, TUESDAY.

VOTE, PLEASE.

OKAY, THAT PASSES 7-0.

NO, CHAIRMAN, THIS WILL GO TO THE AUGUST 18TH MEETING.

AUGUST 18TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

OKAY, TUESDAY, AUGUST 18TH, THAT'S WHEN WE GO TO THE COUNCIL.

AND AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO CATCH UP WITH THE RESIDENT HERE IN THE GALLERY RIGHT AFTER THIS,

[9. Consider: ZA26-0010, Zoning Change and Site Plan for Chapel Crossing on property described as Lots 1R1 and 1R2, Block A, Ranenaux Village Addition and located at 245 and 275 W. S.H. 114. Current Zoning: “S-P-2” Generalized Site Plan District. Requested Zoning: “S-P-2” Generalized Site Plan District. Applicant: Grayson Hughes, Sutherland King Consulting, LLC. Property Owner: Jerry Hu, NovaVoyage Peaks Central, LLC. SPIN Neighborhood #5. PUBLIC HEARING ]

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, NOW WE'LL MOVE ALONG BACK TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA.

APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE.

ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR CHAPEL CROSSING.

GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION.

I'LL BE PRESENTING ITEM NINE, ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR CHAPEL CROSSING MEDICAL.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 245 AND 275 WEST STATE HIGHWAY 114.

CURRENT ZONING IS SP2 GENERALIZED SITE PLAN DISTRICT.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS FOR A THREE-STORY, APPROXIMATELY 35,000 SQUARE FOOT MEDICAL OFFICE AND SURGERY CENTER WITH AN AMBULATORY SURGERY CENTER.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED OFF OF HIGHWAY 114.

FUTURE LAND USE IS RETAIL COMMERCIAL.

CURRENT ZONING IS SP2 GENERALIZED SITE PLAN DISTRICT.

THIS IS A STREET VIEW LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY SOUTHWEST FROM 1 HIGHWAY 114.

THIS IS A PROPOSED SITE LOCATION.

A STREET VIEW LOOKING SOUTH FROM THE HIGHWAY.

A STREET VIEW LOOKING NORTHWEST, KIND OF INTO THE PARKING LOT.

AND THIS IS FROM THE REAR OFF OF COUNTRYSIDE COURT LOOKING NORTH.

THIS IS A CURRENTLY APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN THAT YOU MIGHT REMEMBER FROM ZA 24-0073.

THEIR REQUEST WAS FOR A TWO-STORY MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, 30,000 SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED OVERALL SITE PLAN.

AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF A PLAN COMPARISON BETWEEN THE CURRENTLY APPROVED AND THE PROPOSED.

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SOME DIFFERENCES TO KNOW IS THAT IT'S, THEY'RE PROPOSING A THREE-STORY, APPROXIMATELY 35,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND WITH THEIR PARKING REGULATIONS, THEY'RE BASING IT OFF OF A MEDICAL OFFICE AND THE AMBULATORY SURGERY CENTER.

IT'S KIND OF A PARKING LAYOUT, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE 78 SPACES PROPOSED WITH THE SITE PLAN.

THERE'S 11 SPACES EXISTING FROM THE OVERALL SITE PLAN.

AND THERE'S 95 SPACES SHARED WITH THE CHURCH, WHICH THEY HAVE PROPOSED A PARKING AGREEMENT.

THIS IS KIND OF A COMPARISON OF THE SITE DATA SUMMARY.

THIS IS THEIR GRADING PLAN.

THEIR TREE CONSERVATION PLAN, TOTAL PERCENTAGE OF EXISTING CANOPY ON SITE IS 10%.

TOTAL PERCENTAGE EXISTING CANOPY REQUIRED TO REMAIN IS 70%.

AND THE PERCENTAGE THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED IS 39.3%.

THIS IS THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN, NOTING THAT THEY'RE PRESERVING ONE OF THE TREES ON SITE.

THIS IS THEIR UTILITY PLAN FOR WATER AND SEWER.

THEIR EXISTING DRAINAGE PLAN.

AND THEIR PROPOSED PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE PLAN, NOTING THAT THE WATER DRAINS MOSTLY TOWARDS THE DETENTION POND TO THE SOUTH IN THE BIT TO 114.

THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED MATERIAL BOARD, NOTING THAT IT'S COMPOSED MOSTLY OF STONE, GLASS, AND ALUMINUM PANELS.

THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A BREAKDOWN OF THEIR ELEVATIONS.

THE GREEN, NOTING, IS THE STONE.

THE BLUE IS THE GLAZING OF THE WINDOWS.

AND RED IS THE ALUMINUM PANELS.

THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION FACING 114, NOTING THAT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 55 FEET, 6 INCHES.

ANOTHER NORTH ELEVATION.

THIS IS THEIR EAST ELEVATION.

THEIR SOUTH ELEVATION.

AND THEIR WEST ELEVATION.

AND AS OF NOW, THERE ARE NO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE? GOOD, OKAY.

WE HAVE THE APPLICANT, HOPEFULLY, HERE THIS EVENING FOR THIS.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, COMING UP, STATING YOUR NAME, NAME AND ADDRESS, AND WE'LL MAYBE GET INTO SOME QUESTIONS.

BUT FEEL FREE TO, TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS IF YOU'D LIKE FIRST.

GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS GRAYSON HUGHES WITH SUTHERLAND KING CONSULTING, ADDRESS IS 6430 MEADOW CREEK DRIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

I REALLY HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION.

CINDY HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL GETTING US HERE, AND HAS DONE A GREAT JOB PRESENTING.

WE'RE HAPPY TO ASK, OR EXCUSE ME, ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR ARCHITECT AND THE OWNERSHIP PRESENT AS WELL, IF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

OKAY. RELATIVE TO THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL, ADDING A LITTLE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE, ADDING A THIRD STORY.

YES, SIR.

MAYBE IF YOU DON'T MIND EXPLAINING COMMENTS, I GUESS, ON PARKING.

AND I GUESS MAYBE THERE'S A POTENTIAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CHURCH, AND ARE THEY SUPPORTIVE? IS THIS AGREEMENT CODIFIED, OR WHAT'S THE STATUS THERE? YES, SIR.

SO, THE PARKING AGREEMENT IS BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE CHURCH.

I UNDERSTAND THEY MADE THAT QUESTION OF WHETHER THE MEDICAL OFFICE EXISTING WAS A PART OF THAT PARKING AGREEMENT.

AND WE APPROACHED THEM, AND THEY DIDN'T FEEL THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT FROM THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, SINCE THEY'RE QUITE OVER-PARKED ON THEIR OWN.

AND SO, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHURCH NEXT DOOR, AND THEY HAVE A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAVE COME TO AGREED TERMS, AND I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

AND FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S MINIMAL, IF NO COMMENTS FROM THEM.

IS THIS A PERPETUITY? YES, SIR. IT WOULD RUN WITH THE LAND.

OKAY. OKAY.

AND IT WOULD BE RECORDED.

OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ONE? OKAY. OKAY. WELL, IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL DEFINITELY CALL YOU BACK UP.

YES SIR. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER NINE, IN OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT? OKAY. SEEING, NO ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S A MILD INCREASE IN DENSITY, BUT IT IS KIND OF LONG, HIGHWAY 114, CONSISTENT WITH THE THEME OF THE PREVIOUS USE, AND I'M GLAD THEY WORKED WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AHEAD OF TIME TO GET SOME APPROVALS AND ADDITIONAL PARKING TO HELP MITIGATE ANY OF THE USES THERE.

IS THERE'S ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OBTAIN A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO LEAVE THE MEETING.

I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO BE A GUEST.

BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER NINE ON OUR AGENDA, CASE ZA26-10, SUBJECT TO A STAFF REPORT DATED JULY 31ST, 2026, AND ALSO SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER FOUR, DATED JULY 31ST, 2026, AS PRESENTED.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

AND DENNIS, I'M ASSUMING THIS ONE MIGHT BE HEARD ON SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING.

APOLOGIES. I THOUGHT ONE THING SAID ANOTHER. APOLOGIES.

GOOD LUCK, WITH CITY COUNCIL.

CONGRATULATIONS.

[10. Consider: ZA26-0019, Site Plan for Slate Office on property described as Lot 7, Kirkwood East Addition and located at 1520 W. Kirkwood Blvd. Current Zoning: “NR-PUD” Non-Residential Planned Unit Development District. Applicant: Skip Blake, Blake Architects. Property Owner: Brad Matheidas, Bymetals, LLC. SPIN Neighborhood #1. PUBLIC HEARING ]

NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN FOR SLATE OFFICE.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

THIS IS SITE PLAN FOR SLATE OFFICE, ITEM NUMBER 10.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A SITE PLAN LOCATED OFF OF KIRKWOOD EAST AT 1520 WEST KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS FOR A ONE-STORY, APPROXIMATELY 06,100 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE.

THIS IS A STREET VIEW OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED OFF OF KIRKWOOD BOULEVARD, LOOKING NORTH.

STREET VIEW LOOKING NORTHEAST.

AND THIS AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THE FUTURE LAND USE IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL.

CURRENT ZONING IS NRPUD, NON-RESIDENTIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A CURRENTLY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FROM ZA25-0031, AND SHOWING THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY HAD PROPOSED FOR LOT SEVEN, ABOUT 06,000 SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS KIND OF SHOWING THE NUMBER OF LOTS AND AT THIS STAGE OF COMPLETION, AND LOT SEVEN BEING CURRENTLY AT PMZ.

A COMPARISON OF THE SITE FOR LOT SEVEN FROM THE CURRENTLY APPROVED AND PROPOSED.

AND FOR THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, NOTING THAT THERE ARE 24 PARKING SPACES, AND THERE'S NINE COVERED PARKING SPACES.

THERE'S A SLIGHT DECREASE IN THE TOTAL PARKING SPACES, BUT THE REDUCTION IS SUPPORTED BY THE OVERALL PARKING STRATEGY FOR THE OFFICE PARK, WHICH IS SHARED AMONG THE LOTS ACROSS THE DEVELOPMENT.

EVERYTHING ELSE GENERALLY, BUILDING AREAS AROUND 6,100 SQUARE FEET.

AND THE COMPARISON OF THIS SITE DATA SUMMARY, NOTING THAT THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 21 FEET 9 INCHES.

THIS IS OUR GRADING PLAN.

THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THIS IS THEIR FRONT OR SOUTH ELEVATION.

RIGHT OR WEST ELEVATION, NOTING THE HEIGHT.

THE REAR NORTH ELEVATION.

AND THEN THE LEFT EAST ELEVATIONS.

AND AS OF NOW, THERE'S NO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES, AND HAPPY ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, SITE PLAN REQUEST, AND I GUESS IT SEEMS LIKE PER STAFF'S INTERPRETATION, THERE'S NO VARIANCES REQUESTED WITH IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? I'M JUST CORRECT, YES.

IT'S CONFORMING WITH THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

OKAY. YEAH, WHEN IT CONFORMS LIKE THAT, JUST A REMINDER, WE HAVE NOT MUCH LATITUDE.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS APPROVALS, BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? DO YOU MIND, AGAIN, THE THEME OF YOU MUST BE PRESENT TO WIN. COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

HE'S BEEN OUT OF THE CONTEST FOR A LONG TIME.

SO, HE'S BEEN PRESENT FOR A WHILE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

SKIP BLAKE, BLAKE ARCHITECTS, 1202 SOUTH WHITECHAPEL BOULEVARD IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

AND REALLY, KIND OF LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I'LL LET YOU MOVE YOUR MEETING ALONG UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT AND PRESENTING SOMETHING CONSISTENT WITH THE PRIOR APPROVAL.

ITEM NUMBER 10 ON OUR AGENDA, DOES CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT UP.

ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THAT ITEM? AND SEEING NO ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE ITEM 10 OR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 10.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? OKAY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 10 ON OUR AGENDA, CASE ZA26-19, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT, DATED JULY 31ST, 2026, AND ALSO

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SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN REVIEW, SUMMARY NUMBER TWO, DATED JULY 13TH OF 2026, AS PRESENTED AND NOTING NO VARIANCES.

WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

LET'S VOTE, PLEASE.

PASSES 7-0. CONGRATS AND GOOD LUCK AND DENNIS, I'M ASSUMING THAT ONE WOULD ALSO BE AT THE, WHICH COUNCIL MEETING? SEPTEMBER 1ST.

SEPTEMBER 1ST.

OKAY, PERFECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[11. Consider: ZA26-0042, Zoning Change and Site Plan for St. Martin’s Episcopal Church on property described as Lot 1R, Block 1, St. Martin in the Fields Addition and located 223 S. Pearson Ln. Current Zoning: “S-P-2” Generalized Site Plan. Requested Zoning: “S-P-2” Generalized Site Plan. Applicant: Justin Hiles, VLK. Property Owner: Protestant Episcopal Church Council of the Diocese of Texas. SPIN Neighborhood #11. PUBLIC HEARING ]

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11 THIS EVENING, ZONING CHANGE SITE PLAN FOR ST. MARTIN'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH.

ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR ST.

MARTIN'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH, ITEM NUMBER 11.

I'M SORRY FOR THE FORMATTING.

THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED OFF OF 223 SOUTH PEARSON LANE.

CURRENT ZONING IS SP2 GENERALIZED SITE PLAN DISTRICT.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO, FOR A 2,600 SQUARE FOOT SANCTUARY BUILDING ADDITION, SOME INTERIOR RENOVATIONS AND 150 FOOT, A 150 SQUARE FOOTAGE STORAGE BUILDING.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED OFF OF PEARSON LANE.

FUTURE LAND USE IS PUBLIC, SEMI-PUBLIC.

CURRENT ZONING IS SP2 GENERALIZED SITE PLAN DISTRICT.

THIS IS A STREET VIEW OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING NORTHEAST FROM SOUTH PEARSON LANE.

AND A STREET VIEW LOOKING SOUTHEAST.

THIS IS A STREET VIEW FROM THEIR PARKING LOT.

AND A STREET VIEW LOOKING FROM CHESAPEAKE LANE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE TOWARDS THE CHURCH.

THIS IS OUR CURRENTLY APPROVED SITE PLAN FROM ZA99-108.

THIS SHOWS ALL THE PHASES AND FUTURE PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY HAD BACK IN 1999.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN COMPARISON BETWEEN THE CURRENTLY APPROVED AND THE PROPOSED.

AND THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

AGAIN, NOTING THE SANCTUARY ADDITION OF APPROXIMATELY 02,600 SQUARE FEET AND A STORAGE BUILDING OF 150 SQUARE FEET OFF TOWARDS THE FIELDS USED MAINLY FOR STORAGE OF EQUIPMENT.

THIS IS A COMPARISON OF THE SITE DATA SUMMARY NOTING THE EXISTING SANCTUARY AREA AND THE ADDITION FOR THEIR PARKING.

THEY ARE PROPOSING A TOTAL OF 133 PARKING SPACES WHICH EXCEEDS THE PARKING RATIO PER ONE SPACE PER THREE SEATS FOR CHURCHES AND PLACES OF WORSHIP.

THEY ARE REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES, DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER 634 AS AMENDED, SECTION 5.1 REQUIRES THE MINIMUM CENTERLINE SPACING FOR DRIVEWAYS ALONG COLLECTOR ROAD TO BE 150 FEET.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW 87 FEET AS THE DRIVEWAYS ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING.

AND DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER 634 AS AMENDED, SECTION 5.2D REQUIRES A MINIMUM STACKING DEPTH OF 75 FEET FOR BOTH DRIVEWAYS.

AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A MINIMUM STACKING DEPTH OF APPROXIMATELY 13 FEET AS THE DRIVEWAYS ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING.

THIS IS KIND OF AN EXHIBIT SHOWING THEIR REQUEST OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING.

THEIR GRADING PLAN NOTING THE DRAINING NORTHWEST, SORRY, SOUTHWEST. TREE PRESERVATION PLAN.

THIS IS THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED RENDERING.

AND THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION NOTING THAT THE TOWER IS 43 FEET.

NORTH ELEVATIONS AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING WILL BE 24 FEET AND SIX INCHES, NOT COUNTING THE TOWER.

THEIR WEST ELEVATION.

AND AS OF NOW, THERE ARE NO SURROUNDING PROPERTY RESPONSES.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I GUESS, AS YOU NOTED, SOUNDS LIKE THE SITE REMAINS MEANINGFULLY OVERPARKED, I GUESS, IN THE TWO VARIANCES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION ARE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.

OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER, OKAY.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? YOU DON'T MIND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, JUSTIN HILES WITH VLK ARCHITECTS, 1320 HEMPHILL STREET IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS.

TRYING TO MAKE A SALE HERE.

YEAH.

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NOT TODAY.

I ALSO HAVE WITH ME D.J.

MITCHELL REPRESENTING ST.

MARTIN-IN-THE-FIELDS EPISCOPAL CHURCH.

SO, I'LL JUST QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THIS.

MOST OF THIS WAS ALREADY MENTIONED, BUT ABOUT A 06,000-SQUARE-FOOT EXISTING SANCTUARY BUILDING THAT WE WILL BE RENOVATING AND THEN ADDING ON A LITTLE OVER 02,600-SQUARE-FEET ADDITION.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE SITE PLAN, THE LARGE SITE PLAN OF THE AREA WHERE THE SANCTUARY IS GROWING TO THE WEST.

EXTERIOR RENDERING, SO THIS WILL CREATE A NEW ENTRY AND PUBLIC-FACING WEST ELEVATION.

AND THE INTERIOR, THE LEFT SIDE IS THE NARTHEX.

THAT IS AS PART OF THE ADDITION, SO, CREATING A NARTHEX AS A WELCOME CENTER TO THE CHURCH.

AND THEN THE EXISTING NARTHEX THAT IS INSIDE THE SANCTUARY WOULD BE REMOVED TO EXPAND THE SANCTUARY AND RENOVATE IT TO THE RENDERING ON THE RIGHT. AND THAT'S IT.

OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, IS THERE ANY FUNCTIONAL USE FOR THE STEEPLE THERE OR IS THAT JUST PRETTY MUCH ORNAMENTAL? SAY THAT AGAIN? IS THERE A FUNCTIONAL USE FOR THIS, THE STEEPLE PART OF THE BUILDING, THE HIGH PART THERE, THE 43-FOOT SECTION, OR IS THAT JUST DECORATIVE? IT IS DECORATIVE.

IT WAS A REQUEST OF THE CLIENT JUST FOR KEEPING IN EPISCOPAL CHURCH TRADITION TO HAVE A TOWER.

I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT HAVE BELLS OR SOMETHING UP THERE.

WE MIGHT.

SO, THERE'S CONSIDERATION, BUT IT WOULD BE ELECTRONIC.

IT WOULD NOT BE A TRUE I UNDERSTAND.

A TRUE BELL, YEAH.

I GUESS I WOULD JUST MAYBE ASK A COUPLE THINGS.

I GUESS TO MAKE SURE, I'M ASSUMING MAYBE YOU SOCIALIZED SOME OF THIS WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND IF YOU HAVEN'T, MAYBE SOCIALIZE IT WITH THEM, ESPECIALLY AHEAD OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF IT.

IF THEY HAVE ANY FEEDBACK, IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING.

THAT WASN'T THE ONLY COMMENT I WAS GOING TO MAKE.

MAYBE JUST, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S AN EXISTING CONDITION, SO, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S BEEN MUCH OF AN ISSUE, BUT JUST MAYBE IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, JUST OPTIONALLY ON THE STACKING DEPTH VARIANCE, IF THERE'S ANY SPACES RIGHT THERE WHERE YOU PULL IN, THAT IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF PARKING, YOU CAN MAYBE JUST YELLOW STRIPE IT ABSOLUTELY.

OR JUST TO INCREASE THE STACKING DEPTH A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE NOT EVEN CITY CODE, BUT JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE BETTER.

YES.

I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF, YOU WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T REALLY BE OUT A LOT OF PARKING.

NO.

YOU'D MAYBE INCREASE IT A LITTLE BIT, JUST FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT.

SO THAT WAS THE ONLY COMMENT I WAS GOING TO MAKE.

YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT AND WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT, THE CHURCH HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE, AND THEY'RE ALL SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

OKAY, MAYBE WE'LL JUST, YEAH, I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING THAT.

MAYBE WE'LL JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD ON THE MOTION THAT YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE STACKING DEPTH TO SEE IF THERE'S, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING WE COULDN'T GRANT IT IN THIS EXISTING CONDITION, BUT MAYBE IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU CAN JUST DO TO MITIGATE IT A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH. WE CAN EASILY STRIPE THAT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH, ONE QUICK QUESTION.

YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE EXPANDING THE SEATING TO 250 OCCUPANTS.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT OCCUPANCY IS OF THE EXISTING? SO, THE EXISTING SANCTUARY SEAT'S ABOUT 190 AND WE WILL GO TO 240.

THE 250 IS AN ESTIMATE WITH THE ALTAR PARTY AND CHOIR.

JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, AGAIN, THE PARKING VARIANCE THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU, THE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE COMING TO THE CHURCH, WHAT'S THE LIKELY IMPACT OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY? PARKING APPEARS TO BE ADEQUATE.

IT'S MORE OF THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND EXITING.

CORRECT.

SO, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

THANKS.

NO. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN NOTE ON THE MOTION FOR THEM TO JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE STACKING DEPTH FOR SURE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT? ABSOLUTELY.

TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, I HAVE A COMMENT RELATED, AND YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THIS WITHIN YOUR PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY RECORD OF ANY ACCIDENTS OR WHATEVER DUE TO THE NARROWNESS OF THE ENTRANCE OR THE STACKING, BUT IF THERE'S NOT, MAYBE THAT'S A FACT THAT MIGHT BE GOOD TO BRING OUT TO SUPPORT THE VARIANCE AND THE EXISTING BEING OKAY.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY.

OKAY, YEAH, MAYBE THAT'S JUST SOMETHING GOOD TO MAKE SURE YOU NOTE IN COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS.

WE'VE HAD A FEW OF THESE COMMITMENT CHURCHES WHERE THEY'VE HAD EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE KIND OF HAD TO REAFFIRM.

SO, IT'S NOT, NOT NEW GROUND, BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW FACTUALLY KIND OF HOW THEY'VE BEEN FUNCTIONING.

SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS.

OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

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ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

CALL YOU BACK UP IF WE NEED YOU.

ITEM NUMBER 11 ON OUR AGENDA.

IT DOES CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? AND SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 11.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? OKAY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 11 ON OUR AGENDA.

CASE ZA26-42, SUBJECT TO STAFF REPORT DATED JULY 31, 2026, AND ALSO SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED JULY 13, 2026.

AS PRESENTED, BUT NOTING, GRANTING THE VARIANCES FOR DRIVEWAY SPACING AND STACKING DEPTH, AND ALSO NOTING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO EXTEND THE STACKING DEPTH FROM THE EXISTING PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE PRESENTLY THERE.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO VOTE, PLEASE.

AND PASSES 7-0.

DENNIS, I'LL ASSUME THIS WILL GO TO OUR SEPTEMBER 1ST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THAT IS CORRECT.

NEXT LEVEL.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT.

[12. Consider: ZA26-0045, Zoning Change and Site Plan for Sedo Laser on property described as Lot 15A, Lakewood Acres Phase One Addition and located as 750-756 N. Carroll Ave. Current Zoning: “S-P-1” Detailed Site Plan. Requested Zoning: “S-P-1” Detailed Site Plan. Applicant: Chris Lott, North Carroll 114 Properties, LLC. Property Owner: North Carroll 114 Properties, LLC. SPIN Neighborhood #7. PUBLIC HEARING ]

NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12, WHICH I HAVE A FEELING MOST OF YOU ARE OUT HERE FOR, SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WE'VE BEEN GRINDING THROUGH CITY GOVERNMENT HERE.

THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR SEDO LASER.

YES, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR SEDO LASER, PROPERTY LOCATED AT 750 TO 756 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS SP1 DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT, AND THE REQUESTED ZONING IS SP1 DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ADD A COMMERCIAL SCHOOL FOR AESTHETICS LASER TRAINING AS A PERMITTED USE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWING THE PROPERTY ON NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL, AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS SP1 DETAILED SITE PLAN DISTRICT.

HERE'S A STREET VIEW LOOKING AT THE BUILDING, ANOTHER STREET VIEW LOOKING NORTHWEST, AND ANOTHER STREET VIEW LOOKING NORTH FROM LAKEWOOD.

THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN, AND THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE SUITE LOCATION WHERE THE COMMERCIAL SCHOOL WILL BE LOCATED.

NORTH IS, IS GOING TO THE RIGHT OF YOUR SCREEN HERE, AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN.

THE CURRENTLY APPROVED USES FOR THIS AREA ARE O1 OFFICE DISTRICT USES, AND THEY'RE WANTING TO RETAIN ALL OF THE EXISTING THOSE O1 OFFICE DISTRICT USES AND ADD AESTHETICS LASER TRAINING AS A PERMITTED USE.

THERE ARE NO SITE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED.

REGARDING THE PARKING, THERE ARE 67 ON-SITE PARKING SPACES.

THE EXISTING MED SPA REQUIRES 41 SPACES.

THE ORTHODONTIST REQUIRES 16.

THERE IS A VACANT GENERAL OFFICE, WHICH HAS SIX SPACES, AND THEN THE TRAINING SCHOOL WOULD HAVE FOUR SPACES, AND AT A RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER THREE STUDENTS.

THAT WOULD ALLOW A MAXIMUM OF 12 STUDENTS.

THIS IS JUST SHOWING OUR SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSES.

WITHIN 300 FEET, WE RECEIVED ONE IN SUPPORT, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED OUTSIDE 300 FEET, WE'VE RECEIVED 18 IN SUPPORT AND ONE OPPOSED.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY, QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ONE? I GUESS, CAN YOU MAYBE JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, I MEAN, I GUESS IT LOOKS LIKE AS PROPOSED, THE BUILDING WOULD MAYBE, YEAH, GO BACK.

I MEAN, ANY OF THESE SLIDES ARE PRETTY INTERESTING, BUT AS PROPOSED, IT WOULD BE PARKED TO ITS MAXIMUM.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

THE ENTIRE BUILDING WITH THIS USE? YES, YES.

THAT'S ASSUMING THAT THEY HAVE THE MAXIMUM OF THE 12 STUDENTS, THEN THEY'D TAKE UP ALL OF THEM.

SO, 12 STUDENTS WOULD BE THE MAX, OKAY.

AND THEN, I GUESS, MAYBE DENNIS, I MEAN, IS THERE KIND OF ANY PRACTICAL WAY THE CITY CAN KIND OF ENFORCE THIS, OR WHAT'S, HOW DOES THE, MAYBE TALK THAT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT? COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, JUST, I MEAN, IF EFFECTIVELY, THEY CAN ONLY HAVE UP TO 12 STUDENTS, AND THAT WOULD BASICALLY CAP OUT THE AVAILABLE PARKING PER THE CITY'S GUIDELINES. HOW, HOW, WHAT'S THE MECHANICS BEHIND TRYING TO ENFORCE THAT, OR ENSURE THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT'S OCCURRING? SURE, WELL, AND TO GIVE CLARIFICATION, I'D WANT THE ADVOCATE TO CLARIFY THIS IN THEIR DISCUSSION WITH YOU AS WELL.

THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST ASKING

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FOR THE USE.

THEY'RE NOT PUTTING, AT THIS TIME, A PARTICULAR LIMITATION.

THE PRACTICAL LIMITATION THAT THEY HAVE IS PARKING ON THE SITE.

UNLESS THEY WERE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS AND A REVISION OF THE SITE IN SOME WAY TO ADD MORE PARKING, THEY'RE LIMITED TO THE 67 SPACES THEY HAVE ON SITE THERE TODAY.

IF THEIR, YOU KNOW, CLASS IS SUCCESSFUL, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY GROW IT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE LIMITED TO OCCUPANCY OF SOME OF THOSE OTHER SPACES, AND THEN AVAILABILITY OF PARKING.

SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE OCCUPYING THAT SPACE RIGHT NOW, AND THE OTHER TWO SPACES ARE FULL WITH EITHER, YOU KNOW, THE ONE VACANT SPACE SHOWS GENERAL OFFICE WITH THAT AMOUNT OF PARKING, ALLOCATED TO THIS SITE, THAT SITE CAN ONLY BE A GENERAL OFFICE.

IT CAN BE ANOTHER MEDICAL USE THAT HAS A HIGHER RATIO, AND AS LONG AS THE OTHER TWO USES STAY, THAT WOULD BE THE CAP.

SO, I'M PROBABLY NOT GIVING YOU A REAL CLEAR ANSWER, BUT NO. I THINK .

LIKE I SAID, IF THEY WERE TO GAIN ACCESS TO THAT VACANT SPACE AND UTILIZE THOSE SIX SPACES, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY HAVE 30 STUDENTS IN THAT FACILITY.

OKAY, WELL YEAH, LET US, THAT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE THAN WE HAVE, SO LET US TALK IT THROUGH WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT ONE.

AND AGAIN, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS A GOOD CHART.

I'M ASSUMING THIS IS THE CITY REQUIRED MINIMUM PARKING AVAILABLE FOR EACH GROUP'S USAGE.

SO, THE LASER MED SPA HAS 41 SPACES.

I GUESS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW.

YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN THAT HAPPENS.

SURE, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, FUNCTIONALLY, AS FAR AS HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE ACTUALLY BOOKING IN THERE, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO ENFORCE.

WHAT WE WOULD OBSERVE IS IF THERE BEGINS TO BE A PARKING PROBLEM, AND THEN WE WOULD INVESTIGATE AND DETERMINE WHAT'S CREATING THAT PROBLEM.

OKAY, NO, I THINK THAT HELPS.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THROUGH WITH THE APPLICANT.

AND JUST ANOTHER NOTE, EACH OF THESE SUITES THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED IN THE FACILITY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES TO OPERATE.

AND SO, WHEN A NEW OCCUPANCY COMES IN, WE EVALUATE THE USE OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THE APPLICABLE BUILDING CODES AND ACCESS REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE SPACE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION BEFORE WE CALL THE APPLICANT UP? ALL RIGHT.

NO, THANK YOU.

THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL.

THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU, STAFF.

WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.

THE SAME, THANK YOU.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, SAME PROTOCOL AS BEFORE.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND WE'LL GET INTO SOME QUESTIONS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS CHRIS LOTT.

I'M A CURRENT RESIDENT OF SOUTHLAKE.

I RESIDE AT 2604 DANE COURT.

I'M A CO-OWNER OF THE BUILDING AT 750-756 NORTH CARROLL AVENUE.

AND I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING MYSELF AND MY CO-OWNER, GARY GRACIE.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD TO THE DETAIL BECAUSE I PRETTY WELL COVERED WHAT OUR APPLICATION IS FOR.

I DO HAVE MISS DEMETRIUS HERE TONIGHT.

SHE CAN BETTER TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL OF THIS ADDED USE AND AS FAR AS THE PARKING IS CONCERNED.

BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE.

I KNOW ONE THING THAT ALWAYS SEEMS TO COME UP IS TRAFFIC FLOW.

I THINK Y'ALL HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A MAP THAT WE GAVE TO YOU THAT SHOWS THE EXIT POINTS FOR THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SHORE HOUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN, I THINK, THAT PEOPLE LEAVING OUR SITE ARE GONNA TRY TO DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE EGRESS.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, ANY PLACE YOU COME OUT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY, ANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO TURN THAN JUST COMING RIGHT OUT OF OUR SITE.

IT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO GET TO 1709.

YOU JUST HAVE TO GO A FEW HUNDRED FEET, MAKE A U-TURN, AND YOU CAN GO RIGHT BACK TO 114.

YOU KNOW, THE PARKING, I'LL LET MISS D ADDRESS, BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE MORE THAN ADEQUATE PARKING TO HANDLE WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING

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ON RIGHT NOW, AND SHE'LL ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN SHE COMES.

BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER? YEAH. MAYBE IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF WE GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, THE STAFF PRESENTATION, AND STAFF WILL HELP WITH THAT.

MAYBE WE CAN GO BACK TO THE, GO ONE MORE, ONE MORE.

YES, THIS, I GUESS THIS.

ACTUALLY, I GUESS LOOKING AT THE PREVIOUS, SORRY, MAYBE GO BACK TO THE PARKING, THE ONE WE HAD IT ON PREVIOUSLY WITH THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES PER TENANT.

YES, THANK YOU.

SEDO LASER, MED'S SPA, I GUESS IS THAT RELATED TO THE APPLICANT FOR THIS EVENING'S REQUEST? YES, SIR.

AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENT OF 41 SPACES FOR THAT USE, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY DATA YOU CAN PROVIDE US ON HOW MUCH THAT USE TYPICALLY USES? SHE WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT.

OKAY, OKAY.

BUT THOSE APPLICANTS ARE RELATED? YES.

YES, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYBE SHE CAN COME UP AND STATE NAME AND ADDRESS AS WELL, AND MAYBE KIND OF TALK THROUGH A LITTLE MORE OF THE LOGISTICS BEHIND IT.

GOOD EVENING.

SORRY, MY VOICE IS A LITTLE OUT RIGHT NOW.

MY NAME IS MISTY METAS, AND I'M THE OWNER OF SEDO LASER.

WE CURRENTLY OPERATE OUT OF 750 AND 752 NORTH CARROLL.

I RESIDE AT 1009 HAT CREEK ROAD IN BARTONVILLE, TEXAS.

WE'VE PROVIDED LASER SERVICES AT OUR LOCATION SINCE 2011, AND OVER THAT TIME, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INQUIRIES RELATING TO THE TRAINING OF OUR LASER TECHNICIANS.

AND THE LAUNCH OF THIS VENTURE, WHICH WE CALL THE SKIN AND LIGHT INSTITUTE, IT'S IN RESPONSE TO THE DEMAND AND OUR DESIRE TO PROVIDE NEEDED CAREER TECHNICAL TRAINING IN A DISCIPLINE THAT WE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT.

OUR LASER TECHNICIAN TRAINING COURSES WILL BE HELD PRIMARILY IN THAT SUITE 752 YOU SAW HIGHLIGHTED.

AND I SAY PRIMARILY JUST BECAUSE THE STUDENTS WILL BE TRAINED OVER THERE, BUT THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK OVER TO OUR EXISTING SPACE OF 750 TO OBSERVE A REAL MED SPA AND SEE HOW THINGS WORK.

THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY FOR SUITE 752 IS CURRENTLY 16 PEOPLE, BUT OUR CLASSROOM, WE'VE DESIGNED IT TO HOLD NO MORE THAN 12.

BUT WE KNOW THAT REALLY THE OPTIMAL SIZE OF A CLASSROOM FOR THE TEACHER RATIO THAT WE WANT IS ABOUT EIGHT STUDENTS, WE THINK IS OPTIMAL.

THE SMALLER CLASS SIZE JUST GIVES US MORE TIME TO FOCUS WITH THE STUDENTS, AND IT WORKS BETTER TO BE ABLE TO OBSERVE THE STUDENTS.

PLUS, WHEN WE ARE OBSERVING ON THE SEDO LASER SIDE, WE DON'T WANT TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THE LOBBY AND AROUND OBSERVING.

IT NEEDS TO BE LIKE A NICE RATIO THAT DOESN'T IMPACT OUR CURRENT BUSINESS.

SO AS FOR PARKING, STUDENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO PARK IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, ALONG WITH OUR STAFF.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT, REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR BUSINESS TO PROVIDE AMPLE, CONVENIENT PARKING FOR OUR CLIENTS, FOR SEDO CLIENTS.

THE CLIENTS, THEY'RE REALLY BUSY PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE USUALLY TYPICALLY VISITING FOR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO, THEY WANT TO BE UP FRONT, THEY WANT TO BE CLOSE, THEY WANT TO BE EASY.

AND SO, WE WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING TO IMPACT THE PARKING ON THAT SIDE, BECAUSE SEDO IS OUR PRIMARY BUSINESS, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE MAKE THAT EASY FOR OUR CLIENTS.

SO, WE'VE HAD SOMEBODY OUT THERE BASICALLY, CHECKING THE PARKING, LIKE, HOW IS OUR PARKING GOING? WE KNOW WE ALL PARK THERE FINE, BUT LET'S LOOK.

AND LOOKING AT EVEN THE BUSIEST PART OF OUR DAYS, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACES WE HAD IS 25 SPACES.

SO, BUT MOST OF THE TIME, WE, WE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE COUNTING EVERY HOUR GOT THERE.

HOW MANY SPOTS DO WE HAVE AND WHATNOT? AND IT TYPICALLY RANGES FROM 35 TO 42 OPEN SPACES IN THE PARKING LOT, BUT THE LOWEST IT EVER GOT TO WAS 25.

SO JUST KNOW THAT OUR INTENTION IS TO TRULY PROTECT THE PARKING, BECAUSE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO OUR PRIMARY BUSINESS.

THIS NEW VENTURE IS KIND OF A LABOR OF LOVE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

AND I WILL RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE.

OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST REAL QUICK, SOME Q&A.

SURE.

I GUESS, SO BASED ON THE STATS YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT KIND OF THE NUMBER OF OPEN PARKING SPOTS VARYING DURING THE DAY, 25 TO 35 PLUS OR WHATEVER IT WAS.

YES.

I GUESS I'M ASSUMING THAT WITHIN THE LASER MED SPA, THERE'S GENERALLY NOT GOING TO BE 41 SPACES USED UP BY USE AT ANY ONE TIME.

NO, NO, WE, WE IN TERMS OF STAFF AND CUSTOMERS.

YES, EXACTLY.

LIKE YOU JUST, IT CAN'T OPERATE THAT WAY WITH THE NUMBER OF ROOMS, WE HAVE AND THE WAY THE TURNOVER AND CLEANING THE ROOMS, LIKE WE COULD, I DON'T THINK WE COULD EVER USE 41 SPACES.

AND THEN THE TRAINING SCHOOL, I GUESS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT TIME ARE THE CLASSES, LIKE WHAT TIME OF DAY.

SURE.

HOW LONG? SURE.

SO, WE EXPECT FOR, THERE'S A BASIC CLASS THAT LASTS ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF.

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TAKES ABOUT 50 HOURS OR SO, 55 HOURS TO GET THROUGH THAT.

THAT'S ACCREDITED THROUGH THE CDLR SITUATION.

THAT WE THINK WE PROBABLY, WE HOPE TO OFFER THAT FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

WE MIGHT GET A FIFTH ONE IN THERE IF WE HAVE A REAL STRONG INTEREST OVER THE SUMMER TO WORK ONE MORE CLASS IN.

AND THEN WE THINK ANOTHER, THE UPGRADED OPTION OF THAT, WHICH IS BEYOND LASER HAIR REMOVAL, BASICALLY, THE WIDE RANGE THAT MAKES THEM A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE TO GET A JOB.

THAT COURSE IS ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF WEEKS.

WE HOPE TO, IF THINGS GO REALLY WELL, OFFER FOUR OF THOSE A YEAR.

SO, IT'D BE ABOUT ONCE A QUARTER IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, BUT WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE DEMAND IS AND WHAT PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO.

SO, FOR BOTH OF THOSE CLASSES, THEY'RE DAYTIME CLASSES, BASICALLY, FROM NINE TO FIVE.

THERE MIGHT BE A DAY OR TWO WHERE WE ACTUALLY MOVE IT FROM NOON TO EIGHT, JUST BECAUSE WHEN THEY ARE PRACTICING ON PATIENTS AND THINGS, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME NIGHT TIME SO THAT THEY CAN GET IN, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE AVAILABLE.

BUT I MEAN, HONESTLY, THE PARKING LOT IS, WE LOOKED AT IT FROM ABOUT 7 A.M.

WHEN STAFF START SHOWING UP.

WE LOOKED AT IT UNTIL 8 P.M.

WHEN BASICALLY THE LAST PERSON'S OFF THE PARKING LOT.

AND THOSE NUMBERS WERE GOOD ALL IN THERE.

OKAY, AND THEN MAYBE STAFF CAN GO TO THE SITE PLAN AGAIN.

AND WE HAD IT ON THE OUTLINE OF WHERE THE SPECIFIC SPACE IS.

WHERE IS KIND OF THE, AND YOU CAN USE THE MOUSE UP THERE TO KIND OF USE A POINTER, I GUESS, WHERE IS THE CLASSROOM WITHIN THE SPACE OR HOW WILL IT BE LAID OUT? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT'LL LOOK.

YEAH.

I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT SHOWS IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAT HASN'T BROKE UP WITH THE WALLS.

YES, THERE YOU GO.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO, WE KIND OF BASICALLY KIND OF HAVE TWO SPACES.

HERE'S LIKE A VERY MUCH LIKE, LIKE A LONG DESK AND TABLES AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, BIG TV ON THE WALL, KIND OF THAT KIND OF A TRAINING.

AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER TRAINING ROOM OVER HERE WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE HANDS-ON, BUT WHERE THEY GET TO, YOU KNOW, PRACTICE MAYBE WASHING A FACE AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, YOU WOULD HAVE THEM EITHER IN ONE SPACE OR IN THE OTHER.

PROBABLY EVERY FEW HOURS SWITCHING SPACES.

YEAH, THIS VISUALLY HELPS BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE THIS, IT HELPS A LITTLE BIT GETTING YOUR ARMS AROUND, I GUESS, WITH THE APPLICATION SAYING THAT THERE'D BE A 12, MAXIMUM 12 STUDENTS.

IT'D BE HARD TO FIT.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT I THINK 12 IS REALLY PUSHING IT.

I THINK EIGHT IS LIKE A GREAT ENVIRONMENT FOR WE CAN REALLY TRAIN WELL AND OBSERVE WELL.

AND THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY THOUGHT IS.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN HAVE EIGHT.

WE MAY END UP WITH SIX.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M HAPPY TO TRAIN THE PEOPLE WHO COME OUR WAY.

BUT I THINK EIGHT IS A PRETTY, PRETTY REASONABLE AMOUNT THAT WE CAN DO WELL AND HANDLE WELL.

OKAY. OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO JUMP IN? WASN'T THERE AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SITE? CAN WE PUT THAT BACK UP? THE ONE WITH SHOWING ALL THE CARS.

FORWARD. THAT ONE.

EITHER ONE OF THOSE.

THIS DOES THAT REPRESENT THE TYPICAL PARKING? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

AND IF YOU WENT BY TODAY OR ANY DAY THIS WEEK, WE WENT THROUGH AND COUNTED AND THE LEAST AMOUNT OF OPENING SPACES IS 25.

IF I HAD TO SAY WHAT THAT IS RIGHT THERE IS THAT FOUR TIMES A YEAR WE HAVE A STAFF MEETING FOR TWO HOURS.

AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM.

SO, WE BASICALLY HAVE NO CUSTOMERS THERE FOR TWO HOURS, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 60 STAFF SHOW UP AND ACTUALLY, PROBABLY ABOUT 50 IS WHAT SHOW UP OUT OF OUR WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 60 STAFF THAT WORK FOR US.

BUT MOST OF THEM ARE PART TIME AND THEY WORK 10 TO 20 HOURS A WEEK.

AND SO, WE HAVE ABOUT 50 SHOW UP AT A STAFF MEETING.

OK.

ALL THE OTHER PICTURES ARE MUCH MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF LIKE WHAT A NORMAL DAY DOES WHEN THE ONES THAT YOU'RE SHOWING FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, NORTHEAST, SOUTH AND WEST, THAT IS TYPICALLY WHEN YOU GO BY, YOU CAN PARK ANYWHERE.

BUT EVEN ON OUR BUSIEST DAY, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S WHAT SIX, EIGHT, TEN SPOTS OPEN.

OK.

OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I CAN WAIT.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS FOR NOW? OK, I THINK WE'RE GOOD, BUT WE MAY CALL YOU BACK AND I GUESS BEFORE WE DO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

SO, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

CAN WE LIMIT IN OUR APPROVAL, LIMIT THE USE TO THAT PARTICULAR SUITE? YES.

YES, YOU COULD.

YOU COULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.

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AND IF THAT'S UNSATISFACTORY TO THE APPLICANT, THEY COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL.

AND IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION COUNCIL WANT TO GO AND THEY WEREN'T IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, THEY COULD WITHDRAW THEIR APPLICATION OR HAVE IT APPROVED WITHOUT LIMITATION.

BUT YES YOU, THE NATURE OF THIS DISTRICT, YOU DO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO PUT REASONABLE CONDITIONS ON THE REQUEST.

OK, MY OTHER QUESTION.

I KNOW THAT THE CITY SAYS ONE PER THREE STUDENTS ONE PARKING SPACE, BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKING FOR A CHANGE.

COULD WE LIMIT IT TO MAYBE ONE PER TWO STUDENTS FOR THAT SPACE, FOR THAT USE? IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND WE'RE BASING THE RATIO THAT THEY'RE APPLYING BASED ON OUR TYPICAL COMMERCIAL SCHOOL AND THERE IS OTHER SIMILAR COMMERCIAL SCHOOL USE IN OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, THE C2, C3.

AND IT PARKS ROUGHLY AT THE SAME RATIO, WHICH IS ONE TO 200.

AND WE'VE CERTAINLY IN SOME INSTANCES, THEY CAN OUTBALANCE FROM ONE ANOTHER.

BUT IN MOST CASES, YOUR STUDENT COUNTS USUALLY END UP ABOUT THE SAME WITHIN THAT SAME AMOUNT OF SPACE, WHETHER IT'S AT THE ONE TO 200 OR ONE TO THREE.

THIS ONE'S BEING BASED ON ONE TO THREE.

IS THERE A RATIONAL BASIS FOR DOING THAT? AND IF THERE IS, CERTAINLY, YOU COULD MAKE THAT RIGHT RECOMMENDATION.

IT, IT FEELS LIKE IT WOULD DEPEND ON IF THE SCHOOL WAS OFFERING ROTATING CLASSES THROUGHOUT THE DAY OR JUST LIKE ONE GROUP WAS GOING TO ALL COME FOR THE WHOLE DAY BECAUSE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THREE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CARPOOL SEEMS WEIRD TO ME.

SO, I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M WONDERING THAT RATIO. THANK YOU.

SO, THE BUILDING IS ABOUT, WHAT, 11,500 FEET.

IS THAT RIGHT? AND THERE ARE 67 PARKING SPOTS.

THAT APPEARS TO BE CORRECT.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S SIX PER THOUSAND PARKING, WHICH THAT'S A VERY HEALTHY PARKING AMOUNT FOR A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

I MEAN, I DO LIKE, I THINK WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST, BUT I DO LIKE THE THOUGHT OF KIND OF LIMITING TO THAT SPECIFIC SUIT BECAUSE THAT HELPS SCALE IT SPECIFICALLY, TO THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

BUT ANYWAY, LET'S GET INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM IF THAT'S GOOD.

WOULD THE COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW.

ITEM NUMBER 12 ON OUR AGENDA DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

AS I STATED EARLIER, I'VE GOT COMMENT CARDS, SO, I'LL CALL OUT SOME NAMES FIRST.

ACTUALLY, I'LL READ SOME NAMES INTO THE RECORD FIRST, THEN I'LL CALL OUT THE NAMES.

AND AS I STATED BEFORE, WHEN YOU DO COME UP, IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST STATING NAME AND ADDRESS.

YEAH, NAME AND ADDRESS JUST IN CASE I GOT IT WRONG.

I DO PRONOUNCE THEM WRONG SOMETIMES.

AND THEN JUST IF YOU DON'T MIND, KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS AND WE'LL HAVE THE LITTLE LIGHTS ON THERE.

WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.

SO, WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.

I HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS HERE THAT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WANTED TO RECORD THEY'RE EITHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.

TOMMY LOPEZ, 2008 WANDERLUST DRIVE, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

REBECCA MADISON, 550 BRENTWOOD LANE, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, IS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.

BENTLEY MITES, APOLOGIES THERE.

1009 HAT CREEK ROAD, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

TOMMY MADISON, AGAIN, 550 BRENTWOOD LANE, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

AND THEN HEATHER DUTTON AT 2801 RED OAK COURT, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

SO NOW WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL READ A FEW OF THESE CARDS OUT LOUD.

AND FEEL FREE, IF YOU CAN COME UP AND SPEAK OR IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, JUST NOD.

I'LL START WITH AMY NEWBY AT 2885 BERNIE LANE, WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

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HI, I'M AMY NEWBY, 2885 BERNIE LANE, SOUTH LAKE.

I'VE BEEN ATTENDING SEDO LASER FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, SO, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

I CAN TELL YOU FOR OVER 15 YEARS, NOT ONE TIME I'VE EVER DRIVEN UP AND HAD AN ISSUE WITH PARKING.

AND HONESTLY, THE, THE PARKING SPOTS RIGHT BY THE FRONT DOOR, WHOOP IN THERE COMING FROM BERNIE LANE, PARK RIGHT BY THE FRONT DOOR, GO IN FOR MY 30, 40 MINUTES, WHOOP RIGHT BACK OUT.

NEVER ONCE HAVE I EVER THOUGHT OF OR EVEN THOUGHT IT WAS A CUT THROUGH TO HIDDEN ACRES OR LAKE, I'M SORRY, LAKEWOOD ACRES.

I JUST HAVE NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT AS AN OPTION.

I HAVE LIVED IN SOUTHLAKE ALMOST 20 YEARS.

IT'S JUST NOT REALLY A THOROUGHFARE TO ANYWHERE.

IT'S JUST BEEN A GREAT PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND Y'ALL HAVE MET MISTY TONIGHT.

THE ONE THING I'D SAY ABOUT MISTY IS IF SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS DOING ANYTHING WRONG, SHE WOULD NOT DO IT.

I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT SHE IS SITTING HERE.

IF WE CAN HAVE ALL OF OUR BUSINESS OWNERS MIRROR THE FAITH AND THE LEADERSHIP AND THE FRIENDSHIP THAT SHE GIVES TO HER EMPLOYEES AND THE LADIES THAT WORK FOR HER AND THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT MAKES SOUTHLAKE WHAT IT IS.

SO, I HOPE THAT Y'ALL WILL CONSIDER LETTING HER CONTINUE TO GROW OUR COMMUNITY AND OFFER ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUNG LADIES TO PURSUE A CAREER PATH OR MAYBE THE OLDER LADIES LIKE MYSELF GOING INTO A SECOND CAREER.

MAYBE IT WOULD BE AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY FOR ME RIGHT HERE IN MY BACKYARD.

SO, I APPRECIATE IT AND HOPE THAT YOU VOTE IN FAVOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

NEXT SPEAKER, VALERIE CORTEZ, 3604 PLEASANT RUN ROAD.

WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS VALERIE CORTEZ, 3604 PLEASANT RUN ROAD, IRVING.

I HAVE BEEN A CLIENT AT SEDO SINCE 2016.

MONTHLY APPOINTMENTS, NEVER HAD AN ISSUE PARKING.

THE STAFF IS GREAT.

LOTS OF YOUNG LADIES, LOTS OF LADIES THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT AGES, STAGES OF THEIR LIVES.

I AM SUPPORT OF THIS SCHOOL, IN SUPPORT OF THIS SCHOOL.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE, TO ADD TO THE COMMUNITY.

I TOO CAN SAY IT IS VERY NOTICEABLE WHAT MS. MISTY METIS PROVIDES TO HER STAFF.

THE FAITH, THE LOVE, THE ENERGY THAT SHE PUTS INTO EVERYONE IS TRULY ONE OF A KIND.

SO, I HOPE THAT YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS SCHOOL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT.

NEXT CARD I'VE GOT HERE IN MY HAND, BENSON MORETTI, 475 BENTWOOD LANE.

WANTS TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.

YES, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, EVERYBODY.

SO YEAH, I ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER THAN ME, BUT A LOT OF THE POSITIVE VOTES DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO AS GREAT AS THE ORGANIZATION MAY BE TO THE CUSTOMERS, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS FOR THE COMMUNITY HERE.

I DON'T AGREE WITH THE PARKING SITUATION.

I THINK THAT SATELLITE IMAGE, WHICH WAS NOT A COINCIDENCE, HAPPENED TO CAPTURE THAT THE PARKING IS LIMITED.

YOU KNOW, EIGHT SPOTS ON THAT IMAGE IN THERE.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO ADD 12 PLUS FACULTY.

LIKE, THAT'S A LOT OF PARKING THAT'S GOING TO BE OVERFLOWING SOMEWHERE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE HAD EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST WITH SEDO OF LASER.

THEY HAVE A HOLIDAY PARTY EVERY YEAR WITH HUNDREDS OF CARS THAT ALL PARK IN LAKEWOOD DRIVE.

WE VOICED THOSE CONCERNS TO THE OWNERS.

THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGE.

THEY'VE REPEATEDLY DONE THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SO, I DON'T SEE THEM AS GOOD NEIGHBORS WHO'VE RESPECTED THE COMMUNITY.

I DON'T SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THAT EITHER.

THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING.

ANGIE LOPEZ, 2008 WANDERLUST DRIVE, WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS ANGIE LOPEZ, 2008 WANDERLUST IN LOUISVILLE.

I WANTED TO SHARE WHY I THINK THAT THIS LASER TRAINING SCHOOL WOULD BE A VERY POSITIVE ADDITION TO SOUTHLAKE AND TO THIS COMMUNITY.

YEARS AGO, I WAS GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND A TRAINING THROUGH SEDO OUTSIDE OF THE DFW AREA BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AROUND HERE.

THAT EDUCATION COMPLETELY CHANGED THE DIRECTION OF MY LIFE.

I WAS A SINGLE MOM.

IT OFFERED ME A CAREER INSTEAD OF JUST A JOB.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY, I WAS ABLE TO PUT THREE DAUGHTERS THROUGH TEXAS A&M THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO OTHERWISE.

NOT EVERYONE IS MEANT FOR THE FOUR-YEAR TRADITIONAL COLLEGE.

AND THAT'S OKAY.

BUT THAT'S WHY TRADE AND VOCATIONAL SCHOOLS, EDUCATION,

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THEY PROVIDE SUCH VALUABLE SKILLS FOR PEOPLE.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY GET JUST AS MUCH OUT OF IT AS A FOUR-YEAR UNIVERSITY DEGREE.

THE LASER SCHOOL GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO LEARN A PROFESSION AND EARN A GOOD LIVING AND CONTRIBUTE TO THIS LOCAL COMMUNITY.

APPROVING THE SCHOOL ISN'T JUST ABOUT OPENING ANOTHER BUSINESS OR PARKING.

IT'S ABOUT CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO BUILD BETTER FUTURES FOR THEMSELVES, JUST AS SOMEONE ONCE DID FOR ME.

SO, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL APPROVE THIS.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT.

NEXT SPEAKER, ELENA REYES, 1013 COOL RIVER DRIVE, I BELIEVE, SOUTHLAKE.

WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM? NO? OKAY, HERE WE GO.

HI, MY NAME IS ELENA REYES.

I'M PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

I LIVE AT 1013 COOL RIVER DRIVE HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

IT'S RIGHT OFF OF CARROLL.

I SAY I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND GLORIA'S.

SO, I SUPPORT ALLOWING THE LASER TRAINING OVER HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

I'VE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE AT SEDO FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS NOW.

THEY HAVE PROVIDED ME WITH LASER TRAINING THAT HAS GIVEN ME A CAREER THAT I TRULY LOVE.

THIS TRAINING IS FAR ABOVE ANYTHING ELSE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

IT WOULD TRULY BE AN HONOR TO HAVE THIS ELEVATED TRAINING OPPORTUNITY RIGHT HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

I, OH MY GOD, I'M A LITTLE BIT EMOTIONAL, SORRY.

BUT YES, I LIVE RIGHT OFF OF CARROLL.

MY COMMUTE IS REALLY SHORT.

I'M INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR WHAT SEDO HAS DONE FOR ME, NOT ONLY WITH GIVING ME A JOB, WHICH AT 23 WAS LIKE, OH MY GOD, BIG GIRL JOB.

NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS DID I THINK IT WOULD GROW INTO WHAT IT HAS.

I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH.

I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TRAVEL WITH SEDO AND GIVING US OPPORTUNITIES TO TRAIN WITH DIFFERENT MODALITIES.

AND THE FACT THAT THEY CAN DO THAT AND HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR IT HAS BEEN AWESOME.

I'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT WITH SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

FOR INSTANCE, I WAS ON A VACATION IN THE OCEAN.

YEAH, IN THE OCEAN.

AND I HEARD SOMEONE ON THE BOAT SAY, OH, I LIVE IN TEXAS.

AND MORAL OF THE STORY, THEY LIVED ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME IN, UM, OH GOSH, WHAT IS THAT? VERSAILLES, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CARROLL RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN SHE SAID, OH, I GO TO THIS GREAT MED SPA.

HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT, SEDO? AND I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOD, SMALL WORLD.

I WORK THERE.

SO NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS DID I THINK I WOULD LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE I COULD WALK TO THE GROCERY STORE, GO TO ALL THE THINGS AROUND ME.

BUT SEDO, I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH.

I'VE BEEN SO GRATEFUL FOR IT.

AND JUST, AGAIN, TO REITERATE THE OPPORTUNITY IT'S GIVEN ME AND THE CONFIDENCE, THE FAITH IN MYSELF AND OTHERS HAS BEEN AWESOME.

SO, I VOTE FOR IT.

NEXT CARD I HAVE, CHRIS LONG, 2604 DECOR.

WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE NOTED FOR THE RECORD, SIR.

YES, THANK YOU.

NEXT ONE I HAVE IS JOSEPHINE KNEE.

I PROBABLY SAID THAT WRONG.

APOLOGIES.

475 BENTWOOD LANE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

HELLO, MY NAME IS JOSEPHINE KNEE.

I LIVE AT 475 BENTWOOD LANE.

I LIVE IN LAKEWOOD ACRES, AND I DRIVE PAST SEDO EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.

I'M ALSO REPRESENTING, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS LIKE LEGAL OR YOU CAN VOTE IT, BUT SUSAN STANEK FROM 800 LAKEWOOD, AS WELL AS TWO OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY.

I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT THE PNZ ACTUALLY EXISTS TO PROTECT SOUTHLAKE AND SOUTHLAKE RESIDENTS, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL BE DEEPLY IMPACTED BY ANY PARKING ISSUES THAT COULD ARISE FROM THIS PARTICULAR ZONING APPLICATION.

I AM CONCERNED THAT THE PARKING RATIO IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THE USES IN THE BUILDING WHEN ADDING THE NEW CLASS USE.

REMEMBER THAT THE CURRENT SPACES ARE ONLY ENOUGH FOR THE CURRENT USES.

THE CURRENT, THE APPLICATION IS PROPOSING TO LIMIT CLASS SIZE AT THREE STUDENTS PER SPACE.

THE THREE STUDENTS PER VEHICLE MAKES NO SENSE TO ME WHATSOEVER.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY BASIS OR PRECEDENCE THAT DICTATES THIS.

NO ONE WILL CARPOOL TO THESE CLASSES.

COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC WILL PREVAIL THAT A CLASS LIKE THIS WILL MORE THAN LIKELY REQUIRE A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO VEHICLE PER PARKING SPACE PER STUDENT.

I'M NOT ASKING THAT THE COSMETIC LASER TRAINING TO NOT BE ALLOWED.

YOU KNOW, I, I HEAR THAT THIS PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, VENTURE WOULD PROVIDE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE, BUT I DO IMPLORE YOU

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TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO LIMIT CLASS SIZES TO ONE STUDENT PER PARKING SPOT, KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS THE RIGHT TO DENY OUTRIGHT IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S ALREADY, THIS CURRENT ZONING EXISTS, THE CURRENT PARKING SPACES EXIST TO HAVE THESE PARTICULAR, THESE NUMBER OF SPACES FOR THE ALLOWED USE ALREADY.

I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE ACTUALLY THAT EGRESS AT THIS INTERSECTION, LAKEWOOD AND CARROLL, HAS BEEN SUCH A PROBLEM THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP THIS REVISION IN THE PAST YEAR BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN DANGEROUS ENOUGH TO WARRANT THIS MEETING TO TRY TO MITIGATE ACCIDENTS IN THE AREA.

AND ADDING THESE CLASS SIZES, ESPECIALLY DURING RUSH HOUR, NINE TO FIVE ADDITIONAL EGRESSES WILL JUST REALLY PROVIDE, I THINK, DANGER TO OUR RESIDENTS.

AGAIN, THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE REALLY CARE DEEPLY ABOUT IT.

MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ALL LIVED THERE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS.

PLEASE PROTECT US.

THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING.

NINA KLINGMAN, 750 NORTH CARROLL, WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

HELLO, MR. CHAIRMAN.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I'M NINA KLINGMAN.

I ACTUALLY DO LIVE IN FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, SO THAT WAS THE ADDRESS OUTSIDE OF LASER, WHEREAS I AM THE EMPLOYEE THERE.

I ALSO AM THE DIRECTOR OF THE MED SPOT AND ALSO OF THE PROPOSED SCHOOL AS WELL.

SO, I DO WANT TO COMMENT QUICKLY ABOUT WE AGREE THAT OUR STUDENTS WILL PROBABLY NOT CARPOOL.

SO, I AGREE WITH WHAT SHE'S SAYING THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE THINKING THAT WE WILL CARPOOL OUR STUDENTS.

HOWEVER, WHAT MISTY MENTIONED ABOUT OUR PARKING BEING SO IMPORTANT TO US FOR OUR CLIENTS NOW, THAT IS OUR WHOLE GOAL.

WHEN MISTY MENTIONED THAT WE HAD OVER 60 EMPLOYEES, KNOW THAT WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 25 EMPLOYEES IN THE BUILDING AT A TIME.

SO THAT PARKING IS NOT USED DURING THE DAY FOR THESE MANY EMPLOYEES.

SO, WHEN SHE MENTIONED THAT, IT DID SEEM AGGRESSIVE.

ALSO, TO LET YOU KNOW, OUR TEACHERS WILL BE EMPLOYEES OF OUR MED SPOT THAT ARE ALREADY THERE WORKING.

SO THAT WILL NOT ADD MORE PEOPLE INTO THE BUILDING EITHER.

WE ALREADY OCCUPY THAT BUILDING THAT WE'RE ASKING TO HAVE THE SCHOOL THERE, AND PEOPLE WORK IN THERE ALREADY, AND WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY PROBLEMS WITH PARKING.

SO, IT'S JUST NOT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SUCH A HUGE INCREASE AT THIS TIME.

BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT BEFORE I WORKED FOR SEDO, I WAS ALSO A CLIENT THERE FOR 15 YEARS AND NEVER WAS I EVER ROUTED THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOR DID I KNOW THAT THERE WAS EVEN A WAY TO GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, IF IS THAT SOME CONCERN FOR THEM, THAT IS NOT PART OF THE ISSUE.

THAT I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF OUR CLIENTS USE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS PART OF A THROUGH TRAFFIC OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND SHE IS CORRECT THAT THEY HAVE REROUTED THE TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF SEDO.

SO, WE ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE A RIGHT WHEN WE ARE LEAVING TO GO OUT OF IT.

SO, I DON'T SEE HOW WE ARE GOING TO EVEN, NO ONE CAN TAKE A U-TURN.

SO, NO ONE'S GOING TO BE CHANGING THE TRAFFIC PATTERN COMING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

SO, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT THIS SCHOOL AS A BENEFIT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WELL, YOUR COMMUNITY, SO THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT COMING OUT.

LAST CARD I HAVE IS MISTY MITIS, APOLOGIES THERE, 750 NORTH CARROLL, WHO ALREADY SPOKE.

APOLOGIES FOR PROBABLY TEARING THAT NAME APART.

OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT.

WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THAT I DON'T HAVE A COMMENT CARD FOR, SO GO AHEAD SIR.

SO, SAME PROTOCOL, PLEASE.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

WE'LL RECORD IT.

AND WE HAVE THE THREE MINUTES LIGHTS RUNNING.

MY NAME IS PAUL SIMON, 500 BENTWOOD LANE, SOUTH LAKE, TEXAS.

I WAS NOT PLANNING ON SPEAKING.

IN FACT, WHEN I CAME HERE, I WAS NOT EVEN AGAINST IT.

AFTER HEARING SOME OF THE PEOPLE, I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT.

FIRST OF ALL, THE PARKING IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE.

AND THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IS PARKING IN LAKEWOOD ACRES.

WE TALKED ABOUT . SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT IT WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR ANNUAL PARTY, BUT THERE ARE OTHER TIMES THAT THEY'RE HAVING CLIENTS.

I THINK BECAUSE OF THE IN AND OUT PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE, SOME PEOPLE PREFER TO PARK IN LAKEWOOD ADJACENT TO THEIR BUILDING AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THEM TO LEAVE.

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS, WHEN, WHEN I KNOW WHAT AUDITOR'S LUCK IS, AND WHEN YOU GUYS PULLED UP THE ONE PICTURE THERE, A PICTURE IN IT SHOWED THAT IT WAS A FAIRLY FULL PARKING LOT.

I JUST SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME PULL UP GOOGLE.

I LOOKED AT GOOGLE MAPS.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY OF SHOWING YOU THIS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS, IF YOU WANT TO JUST PUT UP YOUR OWN GOOGLE MAP AND LOOK AT THE SATELLITE VIEW, IT'S EVEN WORSE, OKAY?

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THEY HAVE LITERALLY TWO PARKING SPACES FOR HANDICAP AND THREE OTHER NON-HANDICAP PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE ON THAT DAY.

SO, ANOTHER AUDITOR'S LUCK.

THE OTHER THING IS, THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE THINKING THERE'S AN ISSUE OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH OR LEAVING AND COMING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

THE ISSUE IS PARKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S WHAT I'M MORE AFRAID OF.

AND I WOULD LIKE SOMEHOW, OH, THE OTHER THING IS, CAN WE BRING UP REAL QUICK THE PARKING SITUATION AS FAR AS WHO, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES ALLOTTED FOR THOSE FOUR SPACES? I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING RIGHT THERE, OKAY? I REMEMBER WHEN THEY FIRST ASKED FOR SOME VARIANCES A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN THEY DID SOME ADD-ONS.

THEY ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE, ARE NOT, THEY ASKED, THEY ASKED FOR LESS PARKING SPACES THAN THEY, THE VARIANCE TO HAVE LESS PARKING SPACES.

I'M LOOKING AT THIS THING, AND IF I READ THIS RIGHT, THE, THE, IF THAT TRAINING CENTER WAS A NORMAL VACANT OFFICE SPACE, THEY WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED ONE PER 300 SQUARE FEET.

SO, THEY WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED SIX.

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ROOM FOR SIX, BY THE WAY.

THEY'RE OUT OF, THAT WOULD BE 69 PARKING SPACES IF YOU ADD THOSE UP.

IF THAT WAS SIX, THEY'RE NOW ASKING FOR, I'M GOING TO SAY 12 PARKING SPACES, BASICALLY.

THEY KNOW THAT'S FOUR THERE, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE STUDENTS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT, IS THAT THEY COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY MORE OVERFLOW.

I WAS HOPING TO HEAR THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE DOING TRAINING ON WEEKENDS OR TRAINING ON, ON EVENINGS, AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE AN IMPACT AT ALL.

NOW THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS, I'M A LITTLE BIT WORRIED ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHY I DECIDED TO SPEAK.

NO, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING.

WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK WHO HAS NOT ALREADY HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING ON THIS ITEM? AND SEEING NO ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD.

YES, I WOULD.

JUST GOT IT IN.

I WAS ABOUT TO CLOSE IT.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS JOAN WATT, AND I RESIDE AT 2604 DAY COURT IN SOUTHLAKE.

AND IRENE, WE'VE LIVED IN SOUTHLAKE SINCE 1984.

AND THE OFFICE BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED WAS THERE, I BELIEVE, PRIOR TO EVEN HOUSES, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE GENTLEMAN THAT BUILT IT AND BUILT QUITE A FEW OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE BACK THERE.

I REALLY THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IS NOT A SERIOUS ONE, AND THAT THE PARKING ISSUE IS UP TO WHAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE.

I KNOW THAT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE WHOSE HOUSES THAT LIVE BEHIND THE BUILDING ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY, AND TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT IT RARELY, I'M BY THERE ALL THE TIME.

I DON'T SEE IT TO BE A PROBLEM, AND WE DON'T SEE PEOPLE DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN PARKING ON THE CITY STREET WHEN IT IS HOLIDAY.

AND IT'S USUALLY AFTER HOURS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CARS THAT ONE TIME OF THE YEAR.

SO, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS TO ME, OR? NO.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

MORE JUST FOR YOU TO COMMENT.

SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING FORWARD.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS WHO HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK YET THIS EVENING, WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD BEFORE WE CLOSE THE HEARING? OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE.

I GUESS I HAVE A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS.

DENNIS, I REMEMBER WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH, IT EXPANDED A FEW YEARS BACK, AND I KNOW IT WAS A PRETTY INVOLVED CASE THEN.

ARE THERE ANY SIGNS ON KIND OF THE FIRST SECTION OF THE ROAD? I'M SORRY? OF LAKEWOOD THAT JUST SAY NO PARKING ALONG THERE, I GUESS, RELATIVE TO, AND OR COULD THE CITY DO THAT RELATIVE TO, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THAT'S KIND OF A TURN-IN, TURN-OUT AREA RIGHT OFF BUSY CURVE JUST TO KIND OF KEEP, OR SAFETY? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS, TO IT WOULD TAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY CODE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO PUT NO PARKING RESTRICTION ON THERE, IF, IF, AND HAVE IT ENFORCEABLE TO DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S NO PARKING AT THIS TIME.

I JUST THOUGHT I CAN'T SPEAK TO IT.

I CAN SPEAK TO WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED IF IT DOESN'T EXIST,

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AND TYPICALLY, OUR POLICE AND THEIR TRAFFIC DIVISION, AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS MAKES A DETERMINATION IF THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT'S CREATING A SAFETY ISSUE FOR ON-STREET PARKING, AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO ADOPT NO PARKING.

OKAY, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING.

RESTRICTIONS? RESTRICTIONS.

FOR A COUNCIL TO THINK THROUGH, OR NOT.

THAT'S SOMETHING I WAS THINKING ABOUT, AND I GUESS IF YOU DON'T MIND, WITH THE LADY WHO CAME UP AS AN APPLICANT EARLIER, WOULD YOU MIND COMING BACK UP REAL QUICK? JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YOU STATED, I GUESS, THERE WOULD BE 12 PEOPLE, OR UP TO 12 PEOPLE IN A CLASSROOM, BUT YOU THOUGHT IT WOULD ACTUALLY FUNCTION CLOSER TO EIGHT.

I MEAN, IS THAT A NUMBER THAT YOU WOULD MAYBE BE WILLING TO LIVE WITH, AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS THINK, BUT I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS.

YEAH, I THINK THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE EIGHT WORK.

THE ONLY THING I HEARD THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING IS IF WE LIMIT IT TO THAT SPACE ONLY.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE STUDENTS TO OUR OTHER MED SPA TO OBSERVE, SO, I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE AN ISSUE, THAT WE WALK OVER THERE AND WATCH AND OBSERVE.

WHAT DOES GREETING A CLIENT LOOK LIKE? SO THAT CONCERNS ME, BUT EIGHT IS FINE.

I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO TO BOTH.

I MEAN, WOULD THAT VIOLATE IT IF WE LIMITED IT TO THAT SPACE, BUT THEY JUST WALK STUDENTS OVER TO OBSERVE SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ELSE? IS THAT A TECHNICAL VIOLATION IF WE TRIED TO LIMIT IT TO THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE, OR? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE SCENARIO.

IF WE LIMIT THE VARIANCE TO JUST THE SPACE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING, THAT SUITE.

YES.

BUT THEY WALK THOSE STUDENTS OVER THERE TO THEIR EXISTING SUITE JUST TO OBSERVE, IS THAT A VIOLATION OF? SO, LIMITING IT TO EIGHT STUDENTS.

WELL, DO YOU MIND BRINGING UP THE SITE PLAN REAL QUICK JUST SO WE CAN BE VISUAL HERE? I'M TERRIBLE AT AUDIO.

I CAN'T EXPLAIN ANYTHING.

ONE MORE THERE.

WE'RE LIMITING THIS POTENTIAL VARIANCE OF THOUGHT WOULD BE TO LIMIT IT JUST TO THE OUTLINE SUITE, BUT THEY WALK THE STUDENTS TO ANOTHER SUITE.

ARE THEY IN VIOLATION BY DOING THAT? I WOULD SAY NO.

I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST VISITING OR OBSERVING MAYBE THE WORK OPERATION NEXT DOOR.

I MEAN, YOU'RE STILL.

NOT INSTRUCTING.

YEAH, YOU STILL HAVE EIGHT STUDENTS POTENTIALLY IN EACH CLASS, AND EVERYBODY DOESN'T MISS A CLASS, AND YOU.

I JUST WANT TO BE LIMITED TO WHAT I WANT TO DO.

THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF CAN FURTHER DILIGENCE, BUT THAT'S AT LEAST YOUR PRELIMINARY ANSWER.

THAT WOULD BE, I THINK EIGHT IS VERY REASONABLE.

YOU KNOW, I'M SURE CHRIS WOULD LOVE IT IF I TOOK OVER SOME MORE VACANT SPACE IN THE BUILDING AND WHATNOT.

RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T JUSTIFY THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY STUDENTS, BUT I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO BE BACK HERE IF I TAKE OVER 756 IN A YEAR, AND I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PUT SCHOOL THERE? DO WE HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN? DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

I WOULD LIKE TO, LIKE, NOT HAVE TO.

YEAH, YOU WOULD AND YOU SHOULD.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ASKING THREE MORE, SO YES.

OKAY, WELL, 752, BUT I THINK EIGHT.

I MEAN, I THINK EIGHT'S A REASONABLE NUMBER FOR US TO OPERATE AT.

BUT WHAT, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ME ASKING, NOT COMMISSIONERS.

I WANT TO TALK TO COMMISSIONERS, BUT I WANTED TO JUST SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING.

YOU KIND OF STATED THAT EIGHT WAS KIND OF THE OBJECTIVE ANYWAY, SO.

RIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK.

I KNOW EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PICTURE, BUT IF YOU'LL PULL UP THE OTHER PICTURES, THE ONE, THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH, AND WEST PICTURES OF THE BUILDING.

YEAH, THIS, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S PARKING IN THE BACK WHERE OUR STAFF ARE.

YOU CAN GO THROUGH THEM.

THIS IS VERY FAIR.

HOW, I WOULD SAY THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE DAY.

TYPICALLY, THERE'S MORE CARS THAN THAT, BUT IF YOU KEEP GOING THROUGH THEM, LIKE, IT SHOWS, LIKE, IT'S A REASONABLE NUMBER.

IT'S, WE'RE NOT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO DO A SECOND PRESENTATION, BUT I'M GOOD.

I'M STRUGGLING.

IT'S JUST Q&A, SO THANK YOU.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT WHILE WE HAVE HER HERE? OR IF NOT, THEN WE'LL JUST HAVE HER STAFF.

SO, I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR YOU.

MAYBE FOR STAFF, QUESTIONS? DENNIS, I HAVE A QUESTION.

AS WAS POINTED OUT, I THINK, BY SOMEONE ELSE THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING REMAINING TO FILL THAT SPACE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF THEY WERE GOING TO USE IT FOR JUST A GENERAL OFFICE SPACE.

IS THAT RIGHT? THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SIX SPACES? CORRECT, AND, AND, THE, THE, FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING PROVIDED ON SITE, THEY COMPLY WITH THE PARKING REGULATIONS.

THE PHOTOS THAT ARE SHOWN AND GOT PICKED UP ON THOSE AERIALS, HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE OCCURRENCE OF THAT TIME WAS, HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING WAS AT THAT TIME, WHAT, WHAT TENANT WAS IN THAT SPOT

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WHEN THAT WAS TAKEN.

AND, YOU KNOW, WITH EVERY COMMERCIAL FACILITY WE HAVE, PARKING'S IN EBB AND FLOW THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

YOU'VE GOT PEAK TIMES DURING CERTAIN POINTS OF THE DAY AND THEN NON-PEAK TIMES.

AND, AND OCCASIONALLY, YEAH, YOU WILL COME CLOSE TO MAXING OUT THE PARKING IF, DEPENDING ON YOUR USE AND, AND DEPENDING ON THE AVAILABILITY OF PARKING.

BUT THEY'VE MATHEMATICALLY CORRECTLY PACKED, PARKED, EXCUSE ME, FOR THEIR MEDICAL USE AS THE MEDICAL SPA USE IS AND ORTHODONTISTS PARK ACCORDING TO THEIR REQUIRED PARKING.

WHAT'S LEFT IS WHAT'S LEFT.

IT WOULD NOT ACCOMMODATE ANOTHER MEDICAL USE IN THE FACILITY AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.

IT'S REALLY TO HELP MY CONFUSION.

I THINK THAT THE ISSUE ON THE TABLE IS A ZONING CHANGE.

AND IF THAT WERE TO BE GRANTED, WOULD THEY BE CONFORMING WITH PARKING? YES, YES, THEY WOULD.

OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? JUST A CLARIFICATION, DENNIS, IF YOU WOULD.

ON THE CHART THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED PER SQUARE FOOT FOR ALL OF THE BUILDING EXCEPT FOR THE SCHOOL.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

SO, WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE BUILDING IN ANY OTHER PART OF THE BUILDING.

OTHER THAN THE FACT FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, THEY'RE TELLING US VOLUNTARILY THE MAXIMUM STUDENTS ALLOWED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, MAXIMUM ALLOWED PEOPLE, THERE IS NO NUMBER OF MAXIMUM REQUIRED OR ALLOWED.

SO, I THINK PART OF THE CONFUSION WE HAVE IS WE'RE CONFLATING THE SQUARE FOOT REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE FOR A USE OF THE BUILDING.

CORRECT.

FOR A MINIMUM NUMBER OF SPACES AVAILABLE ON THE SITE.

SO THAT ESSENTIALLY, WITH THE REQUEST FOR US TONIGHT, ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, FOUR SPACES IS WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR A LASER TRAINING SCHOOL OF THAT SIZE, 1,649 SQUARE FEET AGAIN.

SO THAT, IN ESSENCE, WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN SAY THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF SPACES REQUIRED TO PERMIT THIS USE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND, AND THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS BASED ON THAT SPACE WAS BASED ON WHAT THAT FACILITY HAS AVAILABLE TO IT PARKING-WISE AFTER THE OTHER USES ARE DEDUCTED FROM CORRECT.

THAT CALCULATION BASED ON HOW THEIR USE IS PARKED IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

RIGHT.

THEY ARE, THEY ARE FOLLOWING ONE OF THE PROVISIONS THAT'S PERMITTED FOR A COMMERCIAL SCHOOL, WHICH IS THE ONE TO THREE SPACES.

AND THAT, THERE, THIS IS JUST SETTING FOR THAT SPACE, BUT THERE, TO CLAMP, COMPLY WITH THAT, WHAT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE AT A MAXIMUM.

RIGHT.

SO, IN ESSENCE, THE THING I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TO RECOGNIZE IS THAT BECAUSE THIS IS THE ORDINANCE, WE DON'T HAVE AS A BOARD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO COME BACK AND SAY, NO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE SPACES OR YOU CAN'T GO IN THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

WHAT THEY'VE BROUGHT FORWARD AS A PROPOSAL IS THE MINIMUM SPACES NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH WHAT'S WRITTEN IN OUR ORDINANCE.

THIS IS A SPECIAL ZONING DISTRICT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THEY HAVE THE LATITUDE OF ADDING USES AND REGULATIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS SIDE OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

SO, IN QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN PUT A HEARING SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND THINGS THAT YOU'VE HEARD AND CONCERNS AS TO HOW THEIR STUDENT POPULATION WILL TRANSPORT THEMSELVES AND HOW THEY OPERATE THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH OTHER BUSINESSES, ASSUMING ALL BUSINESSES AND SCHOOLS OPERATING AT THE SAME TIME AT THE MAXIMUM.

THEY'VE AGREED TO LIMIT IT TO EIGHT STUDENTS, WHICH IS A HIGHER RATIO THAN WHAT THEY'VE PROPOSED.

AND SO PARKING RATIO.

SO, IF THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, AND THEN HOW IT GETS APPROVED, THAT WILL BE THE LIMITATION ON USE OF THAT BUILDING BASED

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IN HOW IT WOULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT PARKING.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO, YOU ARE IN ESSENCE CHANGING THE PARKING REGULATION RELATIVE TO IF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ULTIMATE DENNIS, RIGHT? ZONING.

WITH THE ZONING CASE, WE DO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN USES.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GRANT ADDITIONAL USES BY RIGHT IN THE ZONING CASE.

AND I'M SORRY, MA'AM, PUBLIC HEARING PARTS OVER.

WE WANT TO MAYBE BREAK INTO DELIBERATION, I GUESS, JUST TO SEE WHERE WE'RE HEADING ON THIS.

WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

I'M HAPPY TO LET SOMEONE ELSE KICK IT OFF OR I CAN KICK IT OFF.

WELL, I THINK THAT IT'S PARKED ACCORDING TO CITY STANDARDS.

AND IF IT'S TIGHT A FEW HOURS OUT OF THE DAY, EVERY NOW AND THEN, I THINK THAT'S JUST THE WAY BUSINESS GOES.

BUT WE'VE GOT THE VACANT OFFICE SPACE HERE THAT'S NOT EVEN BEING USED.

SO, THERE'S ADDITIONAL SPACE THERE.

OF COURSE, I KNOW AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD IT COULDN'T BE.

BUT IN MY OPINION, IT'S ADEQUATELY PARKED FOR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO JUMP IN? I CAN GO AHEAD.

I'M GOOD.

SO, ON THIS, I MEAN, THE OFFICE VACANT SPACE, THEY'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THE CODE REQUIRED PARKING FOR THAT VACANT SPACE.

IT'S IN THE 67, 68 PARKING SPOTS.

SO JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE'S NOT IN THERE DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'VE NOT ALLOWED FOR THAT PARKING IN THAT TOTAL COUNT, WHICH THEN MEETS CITY CODE FOR THIS BUILDING.

AND SO, I AGREE WITH YOU, DAN.

I MEAN, WE ARE CHANGE, WE ARE, WE ARE, CONSIDERING A CHANGE OF USE FOR THIS SPACE.

BUT IF THEY'RE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS USE WITH PARKING, THAT'S BUILT PER CODE.

I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD NOT APPROVE THAT.

IT COULD BE CORRECT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY.

IT'S GOING TO BE OVERFLOWING.

BUT THERE COULD BE TIME WHEN IT OVERFLOWS.

AND THAT'S THE NATURE OF A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

SO, SO I THINK DAVE IS CORRECT AND MIKE IS CORRECT IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A USE THAT'S ACCOMMODATED BY THE PARKING LOT THAT'S AROUND THIS BUILDING.

GENA, SORRY COMMISSIONER PHIL.

IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK GIVEN THAT THE APPLICANT IS ALSO THE MAIN TENANT IN THIS BUILDING, IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO ME THAT THEY WOULD BE ASKING FOR SOMETHING AND ADDING A USE THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY HARM THEIR EXISTING BUSINESS, AS SHE POINTED OUT.

YEAH. I MEAN, THEY ARE THE MAIN OCCUPANT, MAIN TENANT HERE.

ALL THEIR CLIENTS, THE LAST THING THEY WANT TO DO IS DIMINISH THAT BUSINESS.

SO, IT FEELS AS MUCH AS THAT AERIAL WITH ALL THAT PARKING, YOU KNOW, WAS ONE POINT IN TIME.

I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME THINKING THAT THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, WHO I BELIEVE IS HERE AS WELL, AND THAT THIS MAIN TENANT WOULD BE REQUESTING SOMETHING THAT WOULD HARM THE REST OF THEIR BUSINESS.

SO, WITH THAT, AND GIVEN WHAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT HERE, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT THE USE TO THE SINGLE SUITE AND THE EIGHT STUDENTS.

BUT OTHERWISE, I THINK I'M OKAY WITH IT.

WELL, I'LL JUMP IN THERE AND JUST MAYBE ECHO THAT.

I GUESS I'D LIKE TO LIMIT IT TO THAT SUITE.

I'D LIKE TO LIMIT IT TO EIGHT INSTEAD OF 12.

AND I GUESS I'M KIND OF LEANING ON THE SYNERGIES OF THEM BEING EXISTING TENANT AND THERE BEING KIND OF CROSSOVER DEMAND FOR THAT SPACE.

I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD MAYBE COUNSEL THE APPLICANT.

AND THEN I GUESS WE'LL SEE WHAT OTHERS THINK TOO.

BUT IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, I WOULD MAYBE TRY TO GET A PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC COUNT GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT, WELL, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC HEARING'S OVER.

BUT I WOULD MAYBE PRESENT THAT DATA FROM A THIRD-PARTY SERVICE, NOT YOURSELF.

YOU KNOW, THIRD PARTY SERVICE, COLLECT THE DATA, SHOW IT.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD AGREE WITH STAFF AND OTHERS, YOU KNOW, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, RANDOMLY TIMED EITHER PICTURES OR AERIALS EITHER WAY.

SO, I THINK DATA, DATE WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THIS CASE.

BUT I GUESS WITH THOSE STIPULATIONS, I THINK I COULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

I'LL BE AT, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL AND TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT IT.

AND PROBABLY EVEN A FINER TOOTH COMB.

BUT ANYWAY, OTHERS COULD WEIGHT IN.

I JUST ASK A CLARIFICATION AS TO WHY YOU WANT TO LIMIT IT TO THIS PARTICULAR SUITE IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE NO MORE PERSONS ON THE SITE? IF THEY JUST MOVE FROM ONE BUILDING, ONE PART OF THE SAME BUILDING TO A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE OBSERVING? YEAH, I THINK, I MEAN, FOR ME, IT'S AND DENNIS JUMPED IN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE APPROVE ADDITIONAL USES, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SOMEWHAT APPROVING THEM.

SO, YOU, I MEAN, IT'S HARD

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TO EVER TAKE THE FACTS.

I'D LIKE TO NARROW THE APPROVAL.

GO AHEAD, DENNIS.

YEAH, NARROWING IT TO THE SUITE, THAT IS WHERE THEY WOULD RECEIVE THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AS THE COMMERCIAL SCHOOL BEING THE PRINCIPAL USE OF THAT SPACE.

YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOME CROSSOVER OF THEM WALKING OVER TO OBSERVE THE MED SPA OPERATION AND THAT DOESN'T REALLY IMPACT THE USE OF THAT MED SPA.

I MEAN, IT'S STILL OPERATING OR FUNCTIONING AS AN ESSENTIALLY A MEDICAL SERVICE USE.

AND SO THAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF LIMITING IT TO THAT SUITE SPACE.

IF THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE, THEN UNLESS SOMEONE COMES BACK OR THE OWNER COMES BACK TO AMEND THAT ZONING TO MOVE IT OR EXPAND IT SOMEWHERE AS PART OF THE ZONING, WHICH THEY WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL TO DO SO, THAT USE WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED IN THAT SPACE, PERIOD.

AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY SPECIFIC ON THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL SCHOOL.

SO, IT'S TECHNICALLY, BY WAY OF HOW THEY'VE WRITTEN IT, LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL LASER TRAINING SCHOOL, PERIOD.

I GUESS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, IT COMES BACK TO AS AND I MIGHT ADD TO THAT, THOUGH, IF THAT SCHOOL GOES AWAY, THEY'RE STILL PERMITTED THE OTHER 01 USES THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED, CERTAINLY CONFORMING TO PARKING NEEDS BASED, BASED ON THAT USE.

YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THE OBSERVATION IN THE MED SPA ITSELF IS JUST AN OBSERVATION AND NOT AN INSTRUCTION, PERIOD, THEN THAT, TO ME, THAT'S JUST, THAT SHOULD BE PERMITTED.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT AS LONG AS THE MED SPA DECIDES TO START TAKING THOSE INSTRUCTORS OVER THERE TO DEMONSTRATE, SHOW THE PEOPLE, TALK THEM THROUGH IT AND EVERYTHING AND DO THE INSTRUCTION THERE, THEN I THINK THAT'S A MOVEMENT OF THE SCHOOL INTO THE MED SPA, BUT AS LONG AS IT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION.

SO, WE'VE SHOWN YOU WHAT YOU HAVE TO GO DO.

NOW YOU CAN WATCH SOMEBODY GO DO IT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL TAKE THEM UP WHEN YOU COME BACK.

I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PERMITTED USE.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO WEIGH IN? ANYTHING TO ADD? I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH MOST OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID.

I THINK THE TWO THINGS I PROBABLY DIFFER FROM ARE, I WOULD GRANT IT AS IS WITH THE 12, EVEN THOUGH EIGHT MIGHT BE THE PRACTICAL, JUST BECAUSE WHAT IF A NINTH PERSON CAME IN OR SOMETHING, JUST SORT OF A BUFFER SO THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK FOR 10 OR WHATEVER.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EIGHT AND 12.

AND THEN SECONDLY, I DON'T REALLY THINK A TRAFFICKED IMPACT ANALYSIS WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND I THINK IT'S AN UNNECESSARY BURDEN OF AN EXPENSE, BUT I WOULD CONCEDE TO THAT IF THAT IS THE CONDITION THAT IS TIED TO IT.

DR. SPRINGER, I GUESS WE'LL SEE WHAT YOUR MOTION INCLUDES THEN, AND EVERYONE CAN VOTE ACCORDING TO THEIR CONSCIENCE.

WELL, ONE THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, WE HAD, I THINK DENNIS ELABORATED ON THAT NO PARKING, TO GET THAT DESIGNATED LAKEWOOD WITH NO PARKING SIGNAGE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO DPS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK MAYBE JUST NOTING THE COUNCIL WANTS TO INVESTIGATE THAT.

I MEAN, MAYBE NOT.

I MEAN, JUST IN TERMS OF IF IT OVERFLOWS AND CARS GO IMMEDIATELY RIGHT THERE ON THE STREET, RIGHT AS YOU'RE PULLING TO AND FROM CARROLL, IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE A GREAT IDEA.

I AGREE.

SO, WE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

WE'RE JUST RECOMMENDING BONDING, BUT JUST MAYBE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WANT.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO DO THAT SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

YEP.

ALL RIGHT THEN, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 12 ON OUR AGENDA, CASE ZA-1245, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF REPORT DATED JULY 31, 2026, AND ALSO SUBJECT TO ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO, DATED JULY 31, 2026.

NOTING THE LIMITED, NOTING THAT WE WILL BE LIMITING THE LASER TRAINING TO THE SUITE AS PRESENTED.

I WILL LIMIT THE PARKING TO ONE SPOT FOR TWO STUDENTS AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STUDENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO EIGHT.

AND WE ARE REQUESTING A THIRD-PARTY TRAFFIC COUNT THAT COULD BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.

AND THEN THE COUNCIL WILL LOOK AT INTO NO PARKING SIGNAGE ON LAKEWOOD.

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I DON'T THINK THAT WAS ALL IN THE PHRASE.

WE'LL SEE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF IT, BUT I THINK YOU NOTED IT.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

AND I THINK THAT MEANS, BASICALLY, I'M ASSUMING STAFF WILL TELL US THE NEXT MEETING WITH THIS WOULD BE CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.

LET'S VOTE, PLEASE.

PASSES SIX, ONE.

SEPTEMBER 1ST.

WELL, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT ON THIS ITEM.

WE DO HAVE ONE MORE ITEM, BUT APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING OUT ON THIS ONE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LEAVE THE ROOM, I'D GO AHEAD AND DO IT NOW AS QUIETLY AS POSSIBLE BEFORE WE START THE NEXT ITEM.

WE'LL JUST WAIT JUST A SECOND BEFORE WE START.

IF THAT'S OKAY.

AND THEN I'LL. YEAH.

(INAUDIBLE) AND I'LL JUST KIND OF QUICKLY ANNOUNCE.

ITEM NUMBER 13 THIS EVENING IS ZA-26-0047, ZONING CHANGE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR SHIVER'S FARM.

[13. Consider: ZA26-0047, Zoning Change and Development Plan for Shivers’ Farm on property described as a portion of Tracts 1A03 and 1A, James J. West Survey Abstract 1620 and located at 1800 and 1900 N. White Chapel Blvd. Current Zoning: “ECZ” Employment Center Zoning District. Requested Zoning: “ECZ” Employment Center Zoning District. Applicant: Blake Bickmore, Trademark Property Company. Property Owner: Shivers Family Partnership. LTD. SPIN Neighborhood #3. PUBLIC HEARING ]

I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF.

I DON'T HAVE A DIRECT ECONOMIC INTEREST IN IT, BUT JUST THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

I WANTED TO JUST GO AHEAD AND RECUSE MYSELF AGAIN.

SO, THE ESTEEMED NEWLY MINTED VICE CHAIR WILL TAKE OVER AND RUN THE MEETING FROM HERE.

AND I WILL LEAVE THE CHAMBERS.

BUT THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR EVERYTHING SO FAR THIS EVENING.

IT'S BEEN A FUN NIGHT.

SO, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD WITH THE PRESENTATION.