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[00:00:02]

OK, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE OCTOBER 20TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.

[Work Session Items 1 & 2]

I DO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT WE ARE PRACTICING SOCIAL DISTANCING.

SO YOU'LL SEE SIGNS ON A LOT OF THE CHAIRS.

AND WE'VE MOVED THE MICROPHONE UP A BIT FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO SPEAK RATHER THAN SPEAKING AT THE PODIUM. WE'LL ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK AT THE MICROPHONE TO MY LEFT AND THEN JUST OBVIOUSLY TO WEAR YOUR MASK AND BE CONSIDERATE OF OTHERS.

SO FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THE INVOCATION.

I'LL INVITE OUR CITY CHAPLAIN, PASTOR REID, TO COME UP AND LEAD US IN PRAYER, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE. LET'S PRAY.

DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS EVENING.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE HELP THAT YOU GIVE US EVERY DAY TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR PURPOSE.

LORD WE PRAYED TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE DEPARTMENT PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE ON OUR STREETS.

WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM HELP AS THEY PATROL, HELP AS THEY RESPOND TO EMS CALLS.

WE PRAY FOR PROTECTION FOR THEM AND WISDOM AS THEY MAKE CHOICES AND INTERACT WITH CITIZENS. LORD WE ALSO GIVE THANKS TONIGHT THAT OUR CHIEF IS BACK.

WE THANK YOU FOR HELPING HIM AND GIVING HIM STRENGTH.

WE PRAY BLESSING ON HE AND HIS FAMILY AND THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

LORD WE THANK YOU THAT YOU LOVE US AND THAT YOU GIVE US HOPE BECAUSE OF JESUS.

AND IT'S IN HIS NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN.

THANK YOU, PASTOR REID. JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

OF ALLEGIANCE] GREAT. THANK YOU, PASTOR REID.

AND I ALSO WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY THAT WE ARE SO HAPPY AND SO GRATEFUL THAT CHIEF IS BACK AND HE'S BEEN THROUGH HELL AND BACK, BUT HE HAS ALWAYS PUT THIS COMMUNITY FIRST. WE'VE MISSED HIM GREATLY.

WE MISSED HIS LEADERSHIP.

ASHLEIGH CASEY DID A FABULOUS JOB OF LIFTING YOU UP AND LIFTING THE DEPARTMENT UP WHILE YOU WERE GONE. BUT WE ARE SO GLAD OUR PRAYERS WERE ANSWERED AND YOU'RE BACK.

SO ALL'S RIGHT WITH THE WORLD.

OK, NEXT, ARE WE HAVING A SOUTHLAKE CHAMBER UPDATE? YES. PERFECT. OH, MR. LEWIS, I DIDN'T SEE YOU BACK THERE.

HOW ARE YOU, MAYOR? I'M VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

GOOD. GOOD. ALL RIGHT, YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING THE CHAMBER A MOMENT TO SPEAK.

[Work Session Item 3]

I'M GOING TO ADJUST THIS MIC A LITTLE BIT. YEAH, YOU'RE A LITTLE TALL.

SO I DON'T TALK TO YOU LIKE A SCARED DOG.

AND, CHIEF, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU BACK.

YEAH, I WAS VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE YOU HERE TONIGHT.

YEAH. SO I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BUSY.

YOU HAVE A LOT TO COVER. SO I'LL BE BRIEF.

THE CHAMBER IS BACK OPEN.

WE'RE IN ACTION. THIS IS A LONG LIST OF MEMBERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM WITH YOU, BUT IT'S VERY GOOD TO SEE ALL THESE NEW BUSINESSES SIGNING UP WITH THE CHAMBER.

WE HAVE HAD A BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH SOME RENEWALS AND LARGELY DUE TO BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING, WHICH I THINK WE'RE ALL SENSITIVE TO.

SO WE'VE TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM AS BEST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

AS ALWAYS, WE HAVE A FANTASTIC BOARD, A LOT OF FAMILIAR NAMES UP THERE FOR YOU WHO IS DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE SOUTHLAKE RELATIONSHIP NETWORKING GROUP, WHICH HAS BEEN DOING VERY WELL.

IT'S SURPASSED OUR EXPECTATIONS SINCE THINGS HAVE RE-OPENED.

SO IT'S GOING REALLY, REALLY WELL.

WE'VE STARTED DOING RIBBON CUTTINGS AGAIN.

WE RECENTLY HAD THE FORT WORTH MAGAZINE RIBBON CUTTING AND WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW MORE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY MORE WE HAVE.

MARK WOULD HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT YOU'D BE AMAZED.

SO IT'S VERY COOL TO SEE SO MANY BUSINESSES OPENING DURING A TIME LIKE THIS.

WE ALSO HAD OUR FIRST CHAMBER LUNCHEON LIVE AND IN PERSON.

IT WAS A GREAT HIT. MANY OF YOU WERE THERE AND WE REALLY APPRECIATED YOU GUYS BEING HERE OR BEING THERE. IT WAS A GREAT TIME.

AND I'M GOING TO SKIP FORWARD HERE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER LUNCHEON COMING UP IN TWO DAYS.

AND THIS LUNCHEON WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.

WE'VE GOT THE GUYS FROM POSITIVELY OUTRAGEOUS SERVICE COMING.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP, IF YOU'RE NOT COMING, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.

BUT DON'T WAIT TOO LONG.

AS FAR AS BUSINESS EXCHANGES, THEY'RE BACK IN ACTION AND WE'VE HAD GOOD ATTENDANCE.

SO WE'RE QUITE PLEASED WITH THAT.

AND THEN LEADERSHIP SOUTHLAKE IS ON THE MOVE.

[00:05:04]

THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR ADVOCACY PROJECT CURRENTLY.

AND IT'S DOING VERY, VERY WELL.

IN TERMS OF OTHER EVENTS, WE STILL ARE HAVING OUR COMMUNITY PRAYER BREAKFAST LED BY PASTOR STERLING SMITH, WHO'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THESE, AND WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK.

YOU CAN DO THEM LIVE OR IN PERSON.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, WE'RE DOING A BINGO NIGHT, AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'VE BECOME A SENIOR CITIZENS CENTER.

THAT ISN'T THE GOAL. IT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE BINGO IS FANTASTIC AND EVERYONE LIKES IT.

SO WE'LL HAVE MARGARITA'S, WE'LL HAVE FAJITAS, AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE AN AREA LIKE A MARKET SQUARE WHERE PEOPLE CAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE VENDORS OR LOCAL BUSINESSES WHO ARE ABLE TO PROMOTE THEIR PRODUCTS AND MAYBE EVEN HAVE PEOPLE GET A LITTLE EARLY CHRISTMAS SHOPPING IN. SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

THAT'S OUR NEXT BIG EVENT, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I DON'T KNOW. YOU HAD ME AT MARGARITAS.

ACTUALLY, YOU SHOULD HAVE LED WITH THAT.

THAT'S RIGHT. I WAS TRYING TO BRING THEM, BUT MARK TOLD ME NO.

SO IT'S FUNNY.

I WENT TO I KNOW SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN THERE.

YOU ALL HAD YOUR RIBBON CUTTING.

BUT THEN I WENT AFTER WORK THAT NIGHT AND HE SAID TO ME, DO YOU WANT A MARGARITA TO GO? AND I WAS LIKE, A WHAT? ARE YOU SURE? I'LL TAKE TWO.

YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THE BLESSINGS.

I TOLD MY HUSBAND. GUESS WHAT I HAVE.

I HAVE FROZEN MARGARITAS. SO YOU TELL PAULA? THAT IS VERY GOOD.

IT WAS VERY GOOD. AND I'M ONE OF THE THINGS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MENTIONED TO ME, AND I KNOW MARK IS HERE TONIGHT, MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING OR AMY IS GETTING NOTIFIED OF ALL THE RIBBON CUTTINGS BECAUSE A COUPLE OF THEM, I THINK I KNEW ABOUT, BUT NO ONE ELSE ON COUNCIL KNEW.

SO ABSOLUTELY.

WE'RE EXCITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE AGAIN.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

YEAH, I'D LOVE TO DO THAT.

SO, YEAH, PUT THE BINGO BACK UP, PUT THE BINGO SLIDE BACK UP.

CAN YOU DO THAT? OK, HOLIDAY MARKET.

SO YOU'LL HAVE LOCAL BUSINESSES.

WE'LL HAVE BOOTHS SO WE CAN GO BY AND BUY THINGS AND DO HOLIDAY SHOPPING.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND MARGARITA'S WHILE WE SHOP.

AND WHO'S CALLING BINGO? WHO'S YOUR BINGO CALLER? MARK. I AM.

JOHN I WAS GOING, THEY NEED YOU TO WORK THE RED ZONE.

SO I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST.

YES. SOUNDS ONE A FEW TIMES.

USUALLY I'M DRESSED AS A PIRATE WHEN I DO THESE THINGS.

DO I GET TO HAVE THOSE MARACAS? THAT'S WHY WE COULDN'T ASK FOR ANYONE BETTER.

YOU WILL HAVE AS MANY MARACAS AS YOU LIKE.

YOU I MEAN, CAN WE MAKE SURE HE'S GOT MARACAS? ALL RIGHT. THE BIGGEST MARACAS YOU CAN FIND, MARK.

OK, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHAMBER? NO. WE'RE GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS BACK UP AND RUNNING.

AND WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT SOME INTERESTING ITEMS. IF YOU WANT TO STICK AROUND FOR A FEW MINUTES, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTHLAKE BUSINESS RELIEF GRANT PROGRAM, NOT A LOAN, A GRANT.

SO WE ALSO HAVE SOME EXCITING NEWS HAPPENING AT THE CITY THAT WILL HELP OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES CONTINUE TO RECOVER.

SO OUTSTANDING. THANK YOU.

YES. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU.

[Work Session Item 4]

OK, NEXT ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS.

SO, DANIEL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

IN THIS ONGOING SPIRIT OF THE HOLIDAYS, I WANTED TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL AN UPDATE TO WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING FOR HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS THIS YEAR.

OF COURSE, I DON'T HAVE TO TELL THE COUNCIL.

IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING YEAR, TO SAY THE LEAST.

SO WE'VE HAD A KIND OF A REINVASION HOW WE DO HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS THIS YEAR.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE THE COUNCIL AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

SO THE CITY STAFF HAS GOTTEN TOGETHER AND WE REALLY PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS YEAR.

OF COURSE, WE WANT IT TO BE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYONE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE SOCIALLY DISTANCED.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS OR WE PROVIDE THE SAFEST ENVIRONMENT.

SO OPEN AIR ACTIVITIES IS WHAT WE ARE THINKING.

AND OF COURSE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS TO ENGAGE.

AND OF COURSE, MORE THAN ANYTHING, I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER

[00:10:02]

THAT HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS, WHILE IT IS A VERY ENJOYABLE EVENT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS MEMORABLE AND FUN FOR EVERYONE.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY THINK BACK TO 2020 AND JUST THINK THE PANDEMIC.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE FUN ACTIVITIES THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO.

SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS YEAR IS ACTUALLY FAIRLY IMPORTANT AS WELL, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S 2020, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT'S THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS.

SO OUR VIRTUAL ANNUAL TREE LIGHTING, OBVIOUSLY IN YEARS PAST, WE'VE ALL GOTTEN TOGETHER THAT SATURDAY PRIOR TO THANKSGIVING, AND WE'VE DONE A BIG UNVEILING OF LIGHTING OF THE TREE. SO THIS YEAR WE'LL BE DOING IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AND WE'LL BE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO GET TOGETHER AND DO SOME PRERECORDED VIDEOS WITH US.

AND SO WE'LL BE LAUNCHING THE ANNUAL TREE LIGHTING AND JUST A VIRTUAL SETTING FOR EVERYONE. IT'LL STILL OCCUR ON THE 21ST IN TERMS OF WHEN A VIDEO WILL GO LIVE TO EVERYONE. SO WE'LL BE MARKETING A LITTLE BIT TO THE COMMUNITY IF THEY WANT TO COME OUT JUST IN GENERAL TO COME UP TO TOWN SQUARE AND THEN JUST WATCH EVERYTHING.

THE LIGHTS GO ON JUST ON THE 21ST, BUT IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE LOW KEY TO PREVENT OR TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM ONE ANOTHER.

AND THE FACT THAT IT IS THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE REALLY NEAT FOR US TO DO 20 DAYS OF HOLIDAY CHEER.

OF COURSE, WE CONCENTRATE A LOT OF OUR EFFORTS TRADITIONALLY WITH THE HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS EVENT, TREE LIGHTING EVENT.

BUT THIS YEAR WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL SMALL EVENTS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO THINGS THAT, OF COURSE, COUNCIL REMEMBERS AND MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS REMEMBER, SUCH AS THE SNOW HILL AND SANTA VILLAGE, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THAT. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE ON INDIVIDUAL DAYS.

THERE ALSO BE OPPORTUNITIES TO VISIT WITH SANTA AND HAVE SOME HOT CHOCOLATE WITH HIM.

OF COURSE, IN THE WORLD OF SELFIES THAT WE LIVE IN TODAY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE PHOTO OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR FAMILIES AND OUR BUSINESSES.

AND THEY'LL ALSO BE HOLIDAY DISPLAYS THROUGHOUT SEVERAL OF OUR CITY PARKS AND ALSO HERE IN TOWN SQUARE. AND OF COURSE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TO DO ANY OF THESE 20 EVENTS WITHOUT LOCAL PARTNERSHIPS.

FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WE WERE LOOKING INTO WITH THE MAYORS ALLIANCE AS WELL.

ONE OF THOSE EVENTS OF THE 20 THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, OF COURSE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS WITHOUT A BIG BANG THIS YEAR TOO.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE EXPLORING RIGHT NOW, AND MY STAFF WOULD PROBABLY KILL ME IF I KEPT CALLING IT THIS, BUT IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING A REVERSE PARADE.

SO WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING FOR DRIVE THRU HOLIDAY PARADE IS ON DECEMBER 5TH, WHICH IS A SATURDAY, IS TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE ROAD MARKED OFF HERE IN TOWN SQUARE AND ACTUALLY GIVE BUSINESSES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET UP KIND OF A STATIONARY FLOAT, IF YOU WILL, ALONG SOME OF THE ROADWAY THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TOWN SQUARE ALONG THE PARKING AREAS.

BEING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE AND KEEP PEOPLE IN THE SAFEST ENVIRONMENT POSSIBLE, WE'LL BE BLOCKING OFF THE STREET SO THAT CARS CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE THROUGH AND GET TO KIND OF INTERACT A LITTLE BIT WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

BUT OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO SOME RESIDENTS IF THEY WANT TO DO A DISPLAY. OF COURSE, MAYOR, WE'LL HAVE YOU TAKEN CARE OF.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE A GREAT DISPLAY FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN INTERACT ALONG WITH COUNCIL, WITH ALL THE FOLKS THAT WE HOPE THAT WILL BE ENJOYING A DRIVE THROUGH.

WE'RE EXPLORING RIGHT NOW OPPORTUNITIES TO DO IT AT NIGHT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY SOME GENERATORS TO BE HANDING OUT FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT SIGN UP. BUT IN THE EVENT WE CAN'T DO IT TOO LATE AT NIGHT, OF COURSE WE'LL DO IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN THE DAY TO, OF COURSE, LET THE LITTLE ONES BE ABLE TO ENJOY THAT.

SO WE HOPE IT'LL BE A LOT OF FUN FOR FOLKS AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE IN YEARS PAST. BUT WE REALLY THINK IT ALLOWS FOLKS THE ABILITY TO REALLY CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAYS AND INTERACT WITH EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT FEELING OF COMMUNITY IN 2020.

YEAH. SO WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS? THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PLAN.

I'M EXCITED. YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE THE BEST OF IT.

RIGHT. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE COMMUNITY GATHERINGS EVEN THOUGH THEY LOOK DIFFERENT.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE THAT EFFORT BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT WITH EVERYTHING GETTING CANCELED SO.

AND I JUST APPRECIATE STAFF'S EFFORT TO BE CREATIVE.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, THESE GATHERINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND BE A LOT EASIER JUST TO GIVE UP BEING EASIER AND CHEAPER AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THROW IN THE TOWEL.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING CREATIVE AND TRYING TO GET SOMETHING COOL.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. CAN WE DO-- ARE WE GOING TO DO ANY FIREWORKS? AND UNFORTUNATELY, NO MAYOR.

BUT OF COURSE WE COULD LOOK INTO IT.

[00:15:04]

I DON'T FEEL ANY PRESSURE.

IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE THERE'S A CHANCE.

YES. DON'T GIVE ME A CRACK IN THE DOOR, SO.

OH, OK.

WELL, YOU KNOW. YEAH.

NEXT YEAR. RIGHT. NEXT YEAR THERE'LL BE PLENTY NEXT YEAR.

NEXT YEAR. OK, WELL I THINK IT SOUNDS AWESOME.

I'M EXCITED. WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE A STATIONARY FLOAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. AND THEN PEOPLE WILL DRIVE BY US AND WE CAN WAVE AND THROW CANDY. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT ALLOWED.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

THAT'S CISD THAT DOESN'T LIKE TO THROW CANDY.

WE LIKE TO THROW.

VERY GOOD. GREAT. WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT.

AND COUNCIL, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY GREAT IDEAS, LET THE STAFF KNOW BECAUSE WE WANT THIS TO BE A BIG SUCCESS. SO WE SHOULD PLAN ON BOOKING DECEMBER THE 5TH.

DECEMBER 5TH. YES, MA'AM.

AS WELL AS THE NIGHT THAT WE NORMALLY LIGHT TOWN HALL.

WE'LL LIGHT IT. WE JUST WON'T HAVE THE FESTIVAL SO THAT--.

CORRECT EVERYTHING WILL BE PRERECORDED.

SO WE'LL START COORDINATING WITH ALL THE COUNCIL PRIOR TO I BELIEVE IT'S THE 20TH AND 21ST. OK, OF THAT LIGHTING.

OK, MAYBE, MAYBE COUNCIL.

WE CAN GET TOGETHER MAYBE THE FIRST, THE LAST MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

WELL I GUESS WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING IN NOVEMBER, THAT IF YOU GUYS CAN PUT IT ON YOUR RADAR, MAYBE WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET TOGETHER OUR CHRISTMAS, OUR FUNNY CHRISTMAS OUTFITS AND WE CAN TAKE A PICTURE BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE OUR PARTY UPSTAIRS THIS YEAR.

SO WE WON'T-- AND CHRIS WON'T BE HERE.

OH, NEW COUNCIL PERSON WILL BE HERE.

BUT ANYWAY, LET'S THINK ABOUT DOING THAT SO THAT WE CAN-- I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO IT THAT NIGHT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A BIG NIGHT, BUT MAYBE WE CAN FIND SOME TIME.

SHOULDN'T TAKE LONG.

GET YOUR SWEATER. YOU KNOW, THAT UGLY SWEATER, GET THE UGLY SCARF, GET THE-- AND WE'LL TAKE A FUNNY PICTURE.

I SAW THAT SWEATER.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. MAYBE YOUR WIFE TOLD YOU YOU LOOK GOOD, BUT.

HAVING A PARTY UPSTAIRS? WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN BECAUSE OF SOCIAL DISTANCING.

OK, WE'LL WORK ON IT.

WE'LL WORK ON OUR PARTY COMING, THOUGH.

CAN I JUST SAY THIS? SO I'M JOKING.

BUT AS COUNCIL MEMBER HUFFMAN SAID, THIS IS A HUGE DEAL.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING TO MAKE IT SPECIAL THIS.

SO I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE WE MOVED TO TEXAS IN 2014.

IN 2012, WE MOVED THE SOUTHLAKE IN 2014.

AND THE TREE LIGHTING IN MARYHILL AT THE END OF 2014 WAS A HUGE DEAL.

AND I STILL HAVE PICTURES FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, WENT WITH THE GRINCH AND ALL THAT.

SO THANKS FOR MAKING THIS SPECIAL.

IT IS HUGE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE YOUNG KIDS OR FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST MOVING HERE. TO ME, I CAN KEEP TRACK OF THE YEARS I'VE BEEN IN SOUTHLAKE AND KIND OF THE AGES OF MY KIDS BY THE JULY 3RD EVENT AND THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING.

YEAH. SO THANK YOU.

OK, THANK YOU, DANIEL, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK.

OH, AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LAST NIGHT.

WAS IT LAST NIGHT? YEAH, I WAS IN ANOTHER STATE AND NOW I'M HERE.

WE HAD OUR FIRST SKILL MEETING THE SOUTHLAKE KIDS INTERESTED IN LEADERSHIP.

THE FIRST CLASS WAS ANNOUNCED A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, TWO WEEKS AGO.

AND LAST NIGHT WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING SO WE WOULD ALL GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER.

WE DID IT VIRTUALLY, BUT THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

AND I THINK THE GROUP THIS-- I SAY THE SAME THING EVERY YEAR, BUT IT'S AN OUTSTANDING GROUP OF STUDENTS AND THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT'S AHEAD FOR THEM THIS YEAR.

SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

ABSOLUTELY. THANKS.

OK. NEXT ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE THE SOUTHLAKE BUSINESS RELIEF GRANT PROGRAM.

[Work Session Item 5]

AND DANIEL, DANIEL, WE HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN FOREVER.

SO YOU'LL GET A DOUBLE DOSE OF DANIEL TODAY.

SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M VERY GLAD AND FINALLY RELIEVED TO BE ABLE TO TO BRING A PROGRAM TO YOU ALL. AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, WE'VE HAD SOME AT LEAST INITIAL DISCUSSIONS IN TERMS OF BRINGING A GRANT PROGRAM TO YOU DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.

SO NOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF FINALIZED THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE THROUGH THE CARES ACT WITH TARRANT COUNTY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING A PROGRAM FORWARD TO YOU AND GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE US TO GO.

SO, OF COURSE, THIS GRANT PROGRAM IS INTENDED TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BRIDGE ANY OF THE FEDERAL, STATE AND COUNTY AID GAPS IN TERMS OF GRANTS AND LOANS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED OUT THERE.

OF COURSE, WE WANT TO SHOW THAT WE WANT TO REINVEST OR INVEST INTO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE RELIEF FOR THE IMPACTED LOCAL INDUSTRIES, WHICH ARE FAIRLY EVIDENT IN TERMS

[00:20:03]

OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED THE MOST.

IN TERMS OF THE OVERVIEW OF THIS PROGRAM, WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING ABOUT ONE MILLION DOLLARS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT FUND.

EACH GRANT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

BUSINESSES WOULD NEED TO MEET THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, WHICH I'LL GO OVER IN JUST A MOMENT. AND IT SHOULD BE USED FOR SPECIFIED ITEMS THAT I'LL GO OVER AS WELL.

FOR A COST SAVING EFFORT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS INTERNALLY IN ORDER TO SAVE COSTS AND NOT GO WITH THIRD PARTY.

SO WE'LL BE REVIEWING THE APPLICATIONS BETWEEN MY DEPARTMENT AND DIRECTOR JACKSON'S.

SO GOING DOWN TO THE ELIGIBILITY OF BUSINESSES, YOU'LL SEE HERE ON YOUR SCREEN A LIST OF BUSINESSES THAT WILL QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT.

AND IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS, IF YOU FALL UNDER ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES OF BUSINESSES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SMALL BUSINESSES, OF COURSE, ARE TAKEN CARE OF WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. SO 50 EMPLOYEES OR FEWER IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

OF COURSE, BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, BUSINESSES THAT ARE REGISTERED TO DO BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE AT LEAST JANUARY ONE OF TWENTY NINETEEN.

SO THEY'LL HAVE TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THAT THEY'VE HAD HERE.

THEY'LL NEED TO DEMONSTRATE PROFITABILITY PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC.

OF COURSE, WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT WE DON'T WANT TO FUND BUSINESSES THAT WERE ALREADY KIND OF FAILING PRIOR TO THAT.

AND OF COURSE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT BUSINESS THAT CAN DEMONSTRATE A LOSS OF INCOME DUE TO THE PANDEMIC ITSELF.

THE BUSINESS WOULD HAVE TO FORMALLY DECLARE THAT THERE'S NO UNPAID RENT PRIOR TO FEBRUARY 29TH. WE KNOW A LOT OF BUSINESSES AFTER THE 29TH RAN INTO SOME CHALLENGES THERE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T PRIOR TO THE IMPACTS OF COVID.

WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESS IS IN GOOD STANDING, NOT JUST WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, BUT TARRANT COUNTY AND OTHER TAXING ENTITIES.

SO NO BACK TAXES.

THE OWNERS MUST OWN THE BUSINESS, AT LEAST FROM A 51 PERCENT MARGIN OR MORE.

AND OF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SINCE WE WANT TO BRIDGE THE GAPS WITH SOME OF THOSE FUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED FOR BUSINESSES, BUSINESSES THAT EVEN IF THEY RECEIVE FUNDING THROUGH SBA, CARES, PPE OR OTHER GRANTS, THEY WOULD STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM. NOW, IN TERMS OF OUR INELIGIBLE BUSINESSES, WE'RE LOOKING AT NATIONAL AND REGIONAL CHAINS, CORPORATE OWNED FRANCHISES, HOME BASED BUSINESSES, BUSINESSES, OF COURSE, THAT ARE CLOSED, NONPROFITS, SOBS, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES DEEMED ESSENTIAL BY LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT.

SO WE'LL NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE ORDERS TO MAKE SURE.

GAMBLING ORIENTED BUSINESSES.

OF COURSE, I DON'T KNOW THAT I NEED TO SAY THIS, BUT BUSINESSES ENGAGED IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES ARE PROHIBITED BY FEDERAL LAW TO RECEIVE FUNDS, MULTI MARKETING TYPE BUSINESSES, GOVERNMENT TAXING AGENCIES OR DEPARTMENTS, AND LASTLY, LOBBYING ORGANIZATIONS. AND IN TERMS OF WHAT THE FUNDS WOULD BE USED FOR, WE CAME UP WITH ABOUT THESE FOUR CATEGORIES HERE.

SO CAPITAL MACHINERY, EQUIPMENT, PAYROLL, LABOR, HEALTH CARE PAYMENTS FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES, THE PROPERTY RENT LEASE, THAT STOREFRONT MORTGAGE PAYMENT, UTILITY PAYMENTS.

THE ONE PROBABLY IMPORTANT THING OF ALL THE GRAPHICS THAT I HAVE UP HERE ON THIS SLIDE IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO BUSINESS, OF COURSE, USES THIS FOR ANYTHING FOR THEIR PERSONAL RESIDENCE.

SO THEY NEED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT TO US.

AND, OF COURSE, THE COST OF CRITICAL BUSINESS OPERATIONS AND PPE AS THEY'VE KIND OF WEATHERED THE PANDEMIC.

AS YOU'LL NOTICE, THERE'S NOT A LOT THAT THE BUSINESS CAN'T USE THE GROUND FOR WHICH WE THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE. BUT THE ONLY THING WE REALLY WANTED TO LIMIT FOR IS ANY KIND OF PERSONAL USE OF THOSE FUNDS.

IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION, OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO BE USING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, NOT JUST WITH SELECT SOUTHLAKE, BUT ALSO THROUGH THE CITY'S CHANNELS, EMAIL, PERSONAL VISITS, DEDICATED WEB PAGES AND TARGETED PHONE CALLS.

ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF US HAVING WORKED WITH TARRANT COUNTY IS WE DO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT RECEIVE THE GRANTS THROUGH TARRANT COUNTY.

SO WE COULD GO AHEAD AND INFORM THOSE BUSINESSES AS WELL THAT THE CITY ALSO HAS A GRANT PROGRAM THAT'LL BE COMING OUT.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO TARGET A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES AS WELL, WHERE I'M GOING TO BE SEEKING GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING AS WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR BUSINESSES TO ULTIMATELY, I GUESS, QUALIFY FOR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE GRANT.

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SO UNDER OPTION ONE, WE'VE ESTABLISHED THREE TIERS.

A TIER ONE, AS YOU'LL LOOK ON YOUR SCREEN, IS ESSENTIALLY BUSINESSES THAT WERE DEEMED NON-ESSENTIAL DURING THE SHUTDOWN, THAT WERE COMPLETELY CLOSED AND COULD NOT OPERATE EVEN THROUGH A TELECOMMUTING CAPACITY.

THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 100 PERCENT OF THE GRANT.

IN TERMS OF BUSINESSES THAT WERE MAY HAVE BEEN DEEMED ESSENTIAL, BUT WERE PARTIALLY CLOSED. SO YOU MAY THINK RESTAURANTS IN THIS CASE, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 75 PERCENT OF THE GRANT.

AND THOSE NON-ESSENTIAL BUSINESSES THAT WERE SHUT DOWN, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATIONS. SO IN SOME INSTANCES HERE, YOU MAY THINK SOME PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IT THROUGH TELECOMMUTING.

THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO 50 PERCENT OF THE GRANT.

THAT WILL KIND OF HELP US MANAGE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS THAT COME IN AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING FOR ALL BUSINESSES THAT APPLY.

NOW OPTION TWO OF COURSE, THIS WILL BE DEPENDENT ON HOW MANY FOLKS APPLY, BUT ALL APPLICANTS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE PROVIDED THAT THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT I JUST READ TO THE COUNCIL EARLIER. THAT BEING SAID, OF COURSE, IF WE EXCEED, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE 100 APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE, THE GRANT WOULD NEED TO BE DISBURSED IN EQUAL AMOUNTS AND ANYTHING EXCEEDING 100 APPLICANTS.

AND THE REASON I USE 100 IS BECAUSE THAT WOULD REACH THE ONE MILLION CAP AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO IT WOULD JUST BE FOR ANYTHING IN EXCESS OF THAT, WE WOULD JUST REDUCE IT.

SO I BELIEVE IT'S A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUSINESSES WOULD GET APPROXIMATELY SIXTY SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAND IT OVER TO THE COUNCIL AND SEE IF THEY HAVE A PREFERENCE TOWARDS OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO.

DAN, JUST TO CLARIFY, UNDER OPTION ONE, ANY ESSENTIAL BUSINESS WOULD BE INELIGIBLE TO APPLY. CORRECT? I'M SORRY. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? I SAID UNDER OPTION ONE, AN ESSENTIAL BUSINESS WOULD BE INELIGIBLE FOR THIS GRANT.

CORRECT? AN ESSENTIAL BUSINESS WOULD BE PERMITTED, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE HAVE BEEN PARTIALLY CLOSED.

SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THEY THINK RESTAURANTS.

SO THEY WERE DEEMED ESSENTIAL DURING THE SHUTDOWN, BUT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO CLOSE OR OPERATE UP TO A CERTAIN CAPACITY ULTIMATELY BUSINESS DURING THAT TIME.

SO COULD POTENTIALLY A RESTAURANT THAT WASN'T ABLE TO REACT AND HAD TO CLOSE THEIR DOORS, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.

WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT RESTAURANT.

YES. SO BUT ALSO THINK BACK TO THOSE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

SO I THINK NATIONAL CHAINS AND SO FORTH.

SO WE'LL TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

IT SEEMS LIKE OPTION ONE ACTUALLY SORT OF TESTS IT ON THE BASIS OF IMPACT, WHICH I THINK IS THE PREFERABLE ROUTE.

TO HELP MORE PEOPLE. WE CAN HELP MORE PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.

RIGHT. I'M THINKING MORE LIKE MY BUSINESS.

WE WERE DEEMED ESSENTIAL AND WE NEVER STOPPED WORKING.

I MEAN, WE STRUGGLED LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DID, BUT WE DON'T NEED THIS.

AND SO I LEAN TOWARDS OPTION ONE JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE MORE NARROWLY TAILORED TO THE BUSINESSES THAT REALLY WERE IMPACTED.

COUNCIL, HOW DOES EVERYONE ELSE FEEL? I AGREE. I THINK OPTION ONE PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP MORE BUSINESSES JUST BASED ON THOSE PERCENTAGES. AND I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO GO.

YEAH, I LIKE OPTION ONE AS WELL.

SAME HERE. I THINK OPTION ONE MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

I MEAN, GIVEN THE IMPACT TO THE BREADTH OF BUSINESSES, I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE BUSINESSES GO. YEAH, YEAH.

WELL, WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER HERE AND THE CHAIRMAN.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? ONE? OK, WELL, THERE YOU GO.

OK, OPTION ONE.

GREAT. AND IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HERE IN OCTOBER FOR WORK SESSION.

NEXT MONTH, I'LL BE TAKING THIS OVER TO THE COMMUNITY AND GIVING THEM ALLOWING THEM TO PROVIDE US SOME FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS AND SO FORTH. THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER, WHICH IS DECEMBER 1ST WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, IS WHEN I ANTICIPATE BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR AN APPROVAL OF A GRANT THROUGH RESOLUTION. WE ANTICIPATE ALSO THAT WE'LL HAVE THE PROGRAM READY TO LAUNCH IN DECEMBER.

SO IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER WILL BE TWEAKING AND GETTING EVERYTHING READY FOR A DECEMBER LAUNCH. ASSUMING THAT THE GRANT IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 1ST, I WILL OPEN IT UP AND LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE WEEKS AND CLOSING IT IN JANUARY.

OF COURSE, WE COULD ALWAYS EXTEND THAT IF WE'RE NOT GETTING OR GETTING THAT FEEDBACK, OF COURSE. AND SO WE'LL KIND OF PLAY WITH THE DATA A LITTLE BIT.

BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING HOPEFULLY IN FEBRUARY TWENTY TWENTY ONE FOR THE DISBURSEMENTS TO

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HAPPEN OF THE GRANT. AND OF COURSE, AT THAT TIME WE'LL BE PROVIDING UPDATES TO COUNCIL IN TERMS OF QUANTITIES AND NUMBERS AND WHAT WE'RE KIND OF SEEING IN TERMS OF APPLICATIONS.

I ANTICIPATE GETTING LOTS OF QUESTIONS.

SO WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR SELECTING? SO. WELL, WE WILL BE EVALUATING, OF COURSE, ALL THE BUSINESSES IN TERMS OF THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND FROM BUSINESSES THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR THE TARRANT COUNTY GRANT AND EVEN THE PPP, JUST THE SHEER VOLUME OF THEM.

WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THAT APPLY SHOULD BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THIS.

THIS PROCESS MIRRORS A LOT OF WHAT DENTON COUNTY DID DURING THEIRS, AND THEY RECEIVED A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF THEIR PROCESS.

FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH TARRANT COUNTY, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A STRUGGLE WITH THEM, BECAUSE WHEN THEY ASKED THEM FOR DOCUMENTATION, THERE WAS A STRUGGLE WITH THE PROFIT AND LOSS STATEMENT.

FOR US FROM A DOCUMENTATION STANDPOINT, WE'LL BE DOING THE SAME AS DENTON COUNTY AND REALLY JUST ASKING FOR BALANCE SHEETS FROM THE BUSINESS BANK STATEMENTS EFFECTIVELY TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT THEY WERE IMPACTED.

SO THE PROCESS SHOULD GO FAIRLY QUICKLY.

YOU KNOW, MY OFFICE WILL BE REVIEWING THINGS FOR COMPLETENESS, MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE ITEMS ARE THERE. AND OF COURSE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING MISSING, WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM.

THERE'LL BE A LANDING PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE DATE OF LAUNCHING, I'LL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AT THE COUNCIL.

BUT THEY SHOULD EASILY BE ABLE TO GO ON THERE AND APPLY FOR THE GRANT ONLINE.

IT'LL ALL BE DONE. IT'LL ALL BE WEB BASED.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL GET NOTIFICATION ONCE THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND RECEIVED BY THE CITY AND THEY'LL RECEIVE FOLLOW UP FOR ME PERSONALLY IF THERE'S ANYTHING MISSING. BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT USUALLY LATE JANUARY OR FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME IS WHEN THEY SHOULD HEAR BACK FROM THE CITY.

OK. SO THE GRANT, THE GRANT PROCESS IN DENTON COUNTY WAS JUST PULL IT UP ONLINE AND YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR BANK STATEMENT FROM TWO MONTHS IN 2019 AND THEN THE TWO MONTHS, THE SAME MONTHS IN 2020 AND JUST DRAGGED HIM OVER AND DROPPED THEM AND THEN PROVIDED BY 940 ONES FROM TWENTY NINETEEN FIRST QUARTER, SECOND QUARTER AND MY 940 ONES FOR TWENTY TWENTY. IT WAS SUPER SIMPLE PROCESS.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY I HAD TO SIGN TO SAY THAT I WAS TELLING THE TRUTH AND PROVIDE MY FEDERAL ID NUMBER FOR MY COMPANY AND MY DRIVER A COPY.

WE HAD TO DRAG OUR COPY OF OUR DRIVER'S LICENSE FRONT AND BACK AND ON THE FORM TOO.

SO IT'S PRETTY BASIC INFORMATION THAT ANY BUSINESS WOULD HAVE IF THEY'RE PAYING EMPLOYEES . THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THEIR FINGERTIPS.

I WAS MORE THINKING OF IT.

SAY THERE'S ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE PEOPLE WHO APPLY.

THE QUESTION IS GOING TO COME UP, HOW ARE THEY SELECTED? WHY DIDN'T I GET MONEY AND SOMEBODY ELSE DID? OH, SO BASED ON THE TIERED APPROACH, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY PRIORITIZE THE TIER ONE BUSINESSES.

SO ASSUMING LET'S SAY WE DO GET THOSE ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE, WE'LL HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THOSE TIER ONE BUSINESSES TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THE FULL AMOUNT.

I DON'T ANTICIPATE US GETTING NEAR THAT AMOUNT.

AND I HONESTLY THINK WITH THE PARTIALLY CLOSED AND BASED ON THE BUSINESSES THAT I'VE ALREADY EVEN SEEN THAT APPLIED FOR THE TARRANT COUNTY GRANT, I THINK THERE'LL BE SOME VARIATION. SO THAT ALLOWS US TO GET THAT FULL FUNDING OR AT LEAST A FUNDING FOR EVERYONE THAT APPLIES. THAT BEING SAID, IF WE DO HAPPEN TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT AND WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUSINESSES APPLIED THAT ARE ELIGIBLE, WE'LL HAVE TO START PRIORITIZING IN TERMS OF TIER ONE.

THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY THOSE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED THE MOST.

AND OF COURSE, COUNCIL MEMBER, ONCE WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'LL BE COMMUNICATING TO THOSE BUSINESSES AS WELL IF THEY WERE DENIED THE GRANT AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THAT IS.

BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION, OF COURSE, THAT WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK TO AS STAFF AND KIND OF WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DETAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE THAT WE'RE MOST IMPORTANTLY, MORE THAN ANYTHING, IS THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENT WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT DO APPLY AND WE PROVIDE A REASONABLE EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE THE GRANT. THANK YOU.

I MEAN, TRUST ME, I KNOW YOU GUYS THAT YOUR OFFICE DOES A FANTASTIC JOB.

I JUST ANTICIPATED QUESTIONS.

AND THANKS FOR ALL YOU GUYS DO.

I CAN TELL YOU THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS OWNER I'VE TALKED TO IN SOUTHLAKE HAS BEEN THANKFUL FOR BEING LOCATED IN A CITY THAT'S SO HELPFUL TO THEM.

AND I THINK THAT'S A HUGE TESTAMENT TO THE NOT ONLY TO THE COUNCIL, BUT CERTAINLY TO THE STAFF. LIKE YOU GUYS DO A PHENOMENAL JOB.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE GET THE WORD OUT ON THIS, THAT WE MAKE SURE OUR CITIZENS UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THEIR ONE MILLION DOLLARS, THAT THIS IS SOUTHLAKE'S ONE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GIVING BACK TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THAT UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE

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DENTON COUNTY HAD A VERY SMOOTH GRANT PROCESS, WE COULD NOT-- WE'VE TRIED FOR MONTHS TO WORK WITH TARRANT COUNTY TO HAVE THE SAME KIND OF PROGRAM.

AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN WITH TARRANT COUNTY.

SO RATHER THAN JUST SAYING, WHAT THE HECK, THE CITY STAFF WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD FIND THE FUNDING TO MAKE THIS WORK SO THAT WE COULD HELP.

SO THIS IS THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE HELPING OUR BUSINESSES.

THIS ISN'T GRANT MONEY COMING FROM ANY OTHER PLACE.

CORRECT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF OUTSTANDING FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY.

THAT DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO OR TEN YEARS AGO, BUT FOR A LONG TIME.

SO THANK YOU, NUMBER, A MILLION DOLLARS IS A BIG NUMBER FOR A CITY OF OUR SIZE.

SO, CHAMBER, YOU HEARD ME AND I'M GOING TO DEPEND ON YOU TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT.

GREAT, THANK YOU, DANIEL, APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL.

OK, NEXT ON THE AGENDA, I'M GOING TO GO OVER ALL THE CONSENT ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING, AND

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WHEN I'M DONE GOING OVER THOSE THOSE ITEMS, I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, SO WE WILL INVITE THEM UP WHEN I GET THROUGH ALL OF THESE ITEMS. ITEM 4 A, APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER SIX 2020 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ITEM B, CONSIDERING THE CANCELATION OF THE NOVEMBER 3RD CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ITEM C, APPROVING RESOLUTION TWO ZERO DASH ZERO FOUR NINE, ADOPTING A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR THE EIGHTY-SEVENTH TEXAS LEGISLATURE.

ITEM D, APPROVING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH WEAVER LLP FOR AUDIT SERVICES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

ITEM E, APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO DASH ZERO FOUR FIVE PANDEMIC VACATION CARRY OVER POLICY.

ITEM F, APPROVING THE RENEWAL OF A CONTRACT WITH CROWLEY SPORTS OFFICIALS.

AND THAT'S FOR OFFICIATING AND SCOREKEEPING SERVICES THROUGH PARKS AND REC IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY DOLLARS.

ITEM G, APPROVE A GRAZING LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE AND DOVE ESTATE PARTNERS ON 4.5 ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED CITY PARK PROPERTY AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LONESOME DOVE ROAD AND FIREFOX LANE REFERRED TO AS THE CITEM H, ORDINANCE NUMBER ONE TWO THREE THREE.

FIRST READING ADOPTING THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE STANDARDS OF CARE FOR THE RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN OPERATED BY OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT . ITEM I, APPROVE AN ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE AMERICAN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE ACT.

AND THAT'S AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ITEM J, APPROVE AN ANNUAL PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR BEACON CELLULAR SERVICE FOR THE CITY'S WATER SMART PROGRAM.

AND THAT'S IN AN AMOUNT OF ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED NINETY FIVE DOLLARS.

ITEM K, AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES WITH PACE ANALYTICAL FOR LABORATORY TESTING THAT MEETS THE FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED SIXTY EIGHT THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS.

ITEM L, APPROVING AN ANNUAL PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH REYNOLDS ASPHALT AND CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S PART OF OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ITEM M, AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR THE TOWN HALL HVAC UPGRADE REPLACEMENT TO INFINITY CONTRACTORS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED TWO MILLION SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ITEM N, APPROVE AN ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH VIRGO USA.

THAT'S FOR DRAINAGE AND WATER IMPROVEMENTS AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SEVEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARS.

ITEM O, APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO DASH ZERO FOUR SIX AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE TWENTY EIGHTEEN SWAT EQUIPMENT ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM.

THERE'S NO MONEY INVOLVED THERE.

ITEM P, APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO DASH ZERO FOUR SEVEN AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE TWENTY TWENTY SWAT EQUIPMENT ENHANCEMENTS UNDER THE TWENTY TWENTY HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM, AND THAT'S AN AGREEMENT WITH THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS WE WANTED TO ADD TO CONSENT THIS EVENING OR CONSIDER ADDING? YES, MAYOR COUNCIL I WOULD SUGGEST AND REQUEST THAT WE MOVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FROM OUR REGULAR AGENDA TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVE THOSE ITEMS. ITEM SEVEN B, CASE ZA TWENTY DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR ONE, ZONING CHANGE IN SITE PLAN FOR

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SEVEN FIVE ONE AND SEVEN SEVEN ONE EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, TO APPROVE ELEVATION'S FOR BUILDING EXPANSION AND ALLOWING BARBER AND BEAUTY SHOPS AND MEDICAL OFFICE USES.

ALSO MOVING FROM REGULAR AGENDA TO CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVING THAT ITEM WOULD BE 7C CASE NUMBER ZA TWENTY DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR EIGHT, THE LANDMARK OFFICE BUILDING TO ALLOW SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES AS REQUESTED.

ITEM EIGHT A, AGAIN MOVING THAT FROM THE REGULAR AGENDA TO OUR CONTENT AGENDA AND WE WILL TABLE THAT ITEM. THAT'S RESOLUTION NUMBER TWENTY, DASH ZERO FOUR EIGHT TO APPOINT A MEMBER TO FILL A VACANCY ON THE COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

AND WE'LL MOVE THAT TO OUR NOVEMBER 17TH TWENTY TWENTY CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ALSO ITEM NINE A, WE WOULD MOVE FROM OUR REGULAR AGENDA TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVE IT. ITEM NINE A IS CASE NUMBER MSP TWENTY DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO FOUR, AN AMENDMENT TO THE WATER METER SIGN PERMIT REGULATIONS.

ITEM NINE B, WE WOULD MOVE FROM REGULAR AGENDA TO CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVE IT.

NINE B IS CASE NUMBER S.V.

20 DASH ZERO ZERO ONE THREE.

A SIGN VARIANCE FOR THE TOM-THUMB GROCERY STORE AND SUGGEST APPROVING SIGN OPTION NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS AN ALL BLACK SIGN TO MATCH THE EXISTING SIGNAGE.

AND THEN FINALLY MOVING FROM REGULAR AGENDA TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 10 A..

AND APPROVING THAT ITEM PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO TABLES. RIGHT.

EVERYONE FINE WITH THOSE? OK, GREAT. THANK YOU. OK, WE DO HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO I'LL INVITE YOU TO COME FORWARD IF YOU WANT TO COME TO THIS MICROPHONE HERE TO MY LEFT FIRST, I'D LIKE TO INVITE MR. RANDY WOLFE, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SHARE HIS VIEWS ON AGENDA ITEM 4 G.

AND IF YOU JUST WANT TO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

AND MY ADDRESS IS 3206 FOXFIRE LANE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR HEARING OUR EXPERIENCES.

I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY BACK IN 2015 AND WE PURCHASED IT AS IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL LEASED PROPERTY, AND WE PURCHASED IT WITH THE HOPES OF UPGRADING, BEAUTIFYING IT, WHICH WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY IS THE I HAVE A POSTER OVER HERE TOO I'D LIKE TO SHOW.

HERE IS THE LEASE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, 2303 LONESOME THE MIDDLE OF IT. AND SO WHEN I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY, WE INQUIRED FROM THE PERSON WE PURCHASED IT FROM ABOUT THE LAND.

AND HE SAID THAT THEY USED TO LEASE THE LAND FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR FOR LIVESTOCK GRAZING, BUT THEY STOPPED DOING THAT BACK IN 2013.

AND SO. HE SAID THE CITY TOLD HIM THEY JUST DID NOT WANT TO LEASE THAT PROPERTY ANY FURTHER AND THAT PROPERTY, AS WE'VE BEEN TOLD FROM CHRIS TRIPPLE AND HEARD THROUGH OTHERS, KEN BAKER, THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR A HIKE AND BIKE TRAILHEAD AND FOR FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT WAS THE PROPERTY WAS IN DISARRAY.

AND WE WENT TO THE CITY AND ASKED THEM IF THEY'D COME OUT AND CLEAN IT UP.

THERE WAS A DILAPIDATED TRAILER HOUSE AND CAVED IN BARN IN A SHED AND SOME GOLF CART KIND OF THINGS OUT THERE. AND THEY CAME OUT AND TOOK CARE OF IT.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATED JACK THOMPSON, WHO IS A WASTEWATER SUPERVISOR, TO COME OUT, AND HE DID THAT FOR US. I INQUIRED ABOUT LEASING THE PROPERTY AT THAT TIME AND HE TOLD ME THAT IT WAS NO LONGER LEASABLE AND THAT THE CITY HAD THAT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE HIKE AND BIKE PATH AND THEY DID NOT WANT LIVESTOCK ON IT.

AND SO I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND HE SAID YOU COULD TAKE CARE OF IT AROUND YOUR PROPERTY AND CALL US IF YOU NEED ANYTHING.

AND SO I CONTINUE OR I STARTED TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTY AND I COMPLETELY TRANSFORMED THIS PROPERTY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

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AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S, AND I'VE BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES THAT IT IS A WILDLIFE AND NATURE OASIS AT THIS POINT.

I'VE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS MOWING, TAKING CARE OF THIS PROPERTY ALONG WITH UPGRADING OUR OWN HOME.

TAKE US TO AUGUST 24TH, I BELIEVE.

A COUPLE OF MEN CAME UP TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AND I WENT OUT AND GREETED THEM AND THEY SAID THAT IT WAS DR.

HARRIS AND HE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING AND OR LEASING THE PROPERTY.

AND IT WAS SHOCKING TO ME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF THIS PROPERTY WEEKLY.

AND SO WE CONTACTED KEN BAKER THE NEXT DAY AND HE PUT US IN CONTACT WITH CHRIS TRIBLE AND CHRIS TRIBLE, AS I EXPLAINED THE SITUATION TO HIM TOLD ME THAT HE WAS UNAWARE THAT I WAS TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTY AND THEY LEASED THE LAND OUT TO SOMEONE IN THE PAST TO RUN LIVESTOCK TO AVOID THE TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR A YEAR COST OF THE LAND.

AND HE SAID HE WOULD CHECK ON IT.

HE WAS HAVING A KNEE REPLACEMENT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT HE WAS HOPING TO GET EVERYTHING WRAPPED UP AND HE WOULD GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH US ON IT.

WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING BACK FROM HIM.

SO AS TIME PASSED ON AND ANOTHER WEEK OR SO WENT ON, I CONTACTED KEN BAKER AND KEN INDEED TOLD ME THAT HE WAS REPLACING CHRIS FOR THE TIME BEING.

AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM WHAT WE WERE DOING OR WHAT WE HAD DONE AND THAT WE DESIRED TO LEASE THAT PROPERTY FROM DAY ONE.

AND THIS HAS COME UP AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN SUCKER PUNCHED AND TOTALLY UNAWARE THAT IT WAS TAKING PLACE.

AND SO HE SAID, COME AND VOICE YOUR OPINION.

HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT HE SAID, COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND VOICE YOUR OPINION. SO WE'RE HERE.

THIS PROPERTY, WE HAVE SOME PICTURES IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE PICTURES OF IT.

WELL, I THINK WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.

BUT LET ME ASK.

CLARIFY FOR ME, YOU SAID YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO YOU'VE BEEN COMING ON CITY PROPERTY AND CUTTING OR--? YES. JACK THOMPSON TOLD ME I COULD TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY AROUND OUR HOME, WHICH IS ALL THE AND SO I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT METICULOUSLY.

SO YOU SAY YOU'VE TRANSFORMED THIS ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY, SO YOU'VE GONE WAY PAST JUST THE PROPERTY? I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY WHY SOMEONE WOULD GO ON CITY PROPERTY AND DO WORK WITHOUT HAVING A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.

RIGHT. BECAUSE WE DO.

I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY LARGE CITY.

WE ENTER INTO CONTRACTS ALL THE TIME.

SO TO HAVE SOMEONE COME AND TELL ME THEY'VE BEEN MAINTAINING OUR CITY PROPERTY FOR YEARS, BUT WE WEREN'T AWARE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN LEASED FOR A LONG TIME.

OFF AND ON. I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE RECORDS.

THAT YOU'RE SAYING EVEN GOING ON THE CITY PROPERTY AND MAINTAINING IT.

THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN 15 FOOT OF EVERY CORNER OF MY HOUSE.

OUT THE SIDE WINDOW.

OUT THE BACK DOOR.

OUT THE BEDROOM WINDOW.

IT IS LITERALLY OUR PROPERTY LITERALLY SITS IN THE HEART OF THIS.

RIGHT. BUT YOU HAVE A PROPERTY LINE.

SO YOU PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND YOU ONLY HAVE RIGHTS TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WE WERE TOLD--.

LIKE I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

YES, WE WERE TOLD WE COULD GO AHEAD AND MOW AROUND THE AREA AND TO HELP KEEP RODENTS OR WHATEVER FROM COMING UP TO IT AND TO CALL THEM IF THEY NEEDED ANYTHING.

SO I HAVE THE LAND THAT IS ACTUALLY WOULD BE TAKING CARE OF AND TRANSFORMED.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEASE THE LAND.

WE INQUIRED ABOUT IT INITIALLY.

WE LOVE THE LAND. WE LOVE THE OUTDOORS AND PASSIONATE ABOUT OUTDOORS AND TAKING CARE OF PROPERTY. I'VE DONATED COUNTLESS HOURS TOWARDS COACHING SPORTS, YOUTH SPORTS, WORKING WITH THE CITY OF YOGA.

I MEAN, THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE, TEACHING YOGA CLASSES, PERSONAL TRAINING.

I'VE ADOPTED THE SHORELINE FOR GRAPEVINE AND SO I HAVE A PASSION FOR TAKING CARE OF NATURE AND WILDLIFE.

AND WE FEEL LIKE IT'S LIKE AN OASIS FOR THAT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT.

AND SO THE PEOPLE WE'VE LEASED THE PROPERTY TO ARE GOING TO GRAZE CATTLE ON IT.

SO IS IT THAT YOU DON'T WANT CATTLE ON THE PROPERTY OR WHAT'S--? BECAUSE IT'S OUR PROPERTY, SO IT BELONGS TO US.

AND WHEN I SAY US IT BELONGS TO THE TAXPAYERS IN SOUTHLAKE.

YOU CAN'T SELL THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT'S WE HAVE TO GO HAVE AN ELECTION.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REALLY LONG PROCESS TO SELL PROPERTY.

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AND WE DON'T WANT TO SELL PROPERTY.

WE ACTUALLY WANT MORE PROPERTY.

RIGHT. SO THAT WAS OFF THE TABLE.

THAT'S OFF THE TABLE. SO HAVING SOMEONE GRAZE CATTLE, WHAT IS THAT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WHAT'S THE ISSUE WITH THAT? BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST OUR HOUSE.

THE PROPERTY LINE IS LITERALLY OUT--.

IF I'M LOOKING IN STAND IN MY KITCHEN, THE PROPERTY LINE IS WHERE THAT RAILING IS RIGHT THERE. IF I'M LAYING IN MY BED IN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THE PROPERTY LINE IS WHERE THAT WALL IS. WHEN I'M SITTING ON MY BACK PORCH, THE PROPERTY LINE IS ABOUT WHERE THAT WALL IS IN HAVING CATTLE GRAZING THAT CLOSED IN OUR HOME AREA IS JUST-- IT'S SICKENING.

I FEEL LIKE IF I HAVE SOMEBODY COME OVER AND FOR AN EVENING, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND SCOOP COW PATTIES OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ENJOY OUR BACKYARD AND AND GO OUT--.

THE COWS CAN'T GET INTO YOUR YARD. YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE COW PATTIES IN YOUR BACKYARD? NO, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE WITHIN HERE.

GOING TO BE ON THE OTHER THERE.

AND THEY COULD PUT THEIR HEAD OVER INTO MY HOT TUB AND GET A DRINK.

I MEAN, THAT'S LITERALLY--.

SO HOW CLOSE IS YOUR HOT TUB TO YOUR--.

I MEAN, A COW. I HAVE LONGHORNS.

LOTS OF THEM. I KNOW HOW ONE OF THEIR NECKS ARE.

RIGHT. HOW CLOSE IS YOUR HOT TUB? OUR HOT TUB.

OUR PROPERTY.

IS PROBABLY THREE FOOT FROM THE FENCE LINE.

YEAH. SO I SAY A COW, PROBABLY A HORSE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT.

BUT GOTCHA. THAT'S CLOSE.

BUT THE POINT IS THEY'RE GRAZING ON TOP OF US AND IT'S JUST VERY DISTURBING.

AND I WANTED TO LEASE THE PROPERTY.

AND THEY SAID IT WAS NOT LEASABLE AND I'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF IT AND TRYING TO KEEP IT BEAUTIFUL FOR THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS AND OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.

I'M SORRY THIS WAS JUST SUCH A LAST MINUTE THING.

WE JUST WEREN'T AWARE OF IT.

AND WE TRIED TO FIND OUT.

WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IT.

AND FINALLY, KEN BAKER SAID, COME TO THE MEETING AND VOICE YOUR OPINION.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR IT.

AND WE HAVE PICTURES OF THE PROPERTIES AND YOU COULD SEE THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.

WE'RE FAMILIAR.

WE GET, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT WHEN THINGS COME UP ON OUR AGENDA, MOST OF US GO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO, YEAH, AS FAR AS THE PICTURES, WE'RE FINE.

WE UNDERSTAND. FOR US, IT'S REALLY AN ISSUE OF SOMEONE HAS LEASED THE PROPERTY.

AND SO NOW YOU, AS THE HOMEOWNER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT SOMEONE ELSE LEASED IT AND POSSIBLY YOU COULD HAVE LEASED IT.

AND IT'S JUST ON TOP OF ME.

IT'S LITERALLY ON TOP OF ME.

YOU KNOW, I-- JUST PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES.

IF YOU'RE STANDING IN YOUR KITCHEN WINDOW AND YOU COULD HAVE A COW GRAZING, WHERE THAT RAIL IN YOUR BEDROOM AND YOU LOOK OUT YOUR WINDOW AND YOU CAN HAVE A COW OR HORSE GRAZING RIGHT THERE IN THE SAME THING SITTING ON OUR BACK PORCH.

IT'S JUST--. YOU DO UNDERSTAND MOST PEOPLE IN SOUTHLAKE WOULD KILL FOR THAT.

I MEAN, THEY LITERALLY WOULD.

RIGHT.

SO YOU GOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY BANKING ON THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING AROUND YOU THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR WAS GOING TO STAY NATURAL.

RIGHT. AND THAT WE WENT ON CITY PROPERTY AND MAINTAINED THAT.

AND SO YOU SORT OF FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE SOME RIGHT TO IT.

AND I TOOK CARE OF IT.

I SOUGHT OUT TO TRY AND LEASE IT AND WAS TOLD IT'S NOT LEASABLE.

WE'LL ALL BE ABLE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS OF STAFF SAID, OK, WELL, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I THANK YOU.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING OUR THOUGHTS.

RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. I ALSO HAVE MR. MIKE FAULKNER WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM 4 G.

MR. FAULKNER, IF YOU'LL PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME.

IT'S ALWAYS AMAZING TO ME WHEN I COME TO ONE OF THESE MEETINGS, YOU GUYS SPEND SO MUCH TIME, I COME ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE AND SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME.

YOU GUYS DO THIS ALL THE TIME AND IT'S AMAZING TO ME.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

MY NAME IS MIKE FAULKNER.

I RESIDE AT TWENTY FOUR TWENTY THE CEO OF THE RANCH AND LONESOME DOVE WHICH IS TWENTY TWO NINETY NINE LONESOME DOVE ROAD RIGHT THERE. AND YOU KNOW WE HAD THAT PROPERTY THAT WE BOUGHT THE RANCH FROM WILLIAM INTEL WHICH HAD THAT PROPERTY THERE.

I THINK HE ONE TIME MY UNDERSTANDING IS HAD THE AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY AND HE LEASED IT WHEN HE PASSED AWAY.

HIS PARTNER, WHO IS ALSO MY BUSINESS PARTNER ON THE RANCH, TOMMY KEATON, HAD THAT LEASE.

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SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

AND IF I CAN ADD SOME CLARITY TO SOME OF THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO.

SO I MET RANDY WHEN HE BOUGHT THE HOUSE AND TOMMY SOLD IT TO HIM.

AND WE USED A LOT OF OUR EQUIPMENT THROUGH THE YEARS TO GO DOWN THERE AND CLEAN THAT PROPERTY UP WHILE TOMMY, IN FACT, HAD THE LEASE AND.

THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE HAD OUR MAILBOX THERE ON THE CORNER OF THAT PROPERTY, SO IT KIND OF REFLECTED ON US. WE WERE GLAD TO HELP KEEP IT CLEAN.

SO WHEN RANDY PURCHASED PROPERTY, HE AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION.

YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD LEASE IT.

IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN IT, YOU COULD DO ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT WHEN WE HAD IT, IT WAS VERY CLEAR.

I CONTACTED CITY MANAGER, WHOEVER THAT WAS AT THAT TIME THAT WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, I DIDN'T WANT TO LEASE THE PROPERTY.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO KEEP ANIMALS ON THAT.

THAT WAS THEIR COMMENT TO ME.

THEY DID NOT WANT ANIMALS ON THAT PROPERTY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T NEED TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY LEASED IT AND IT'S A DONE DEAL, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS KIND OF A THOUGHT IS THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT LEASE THE PROPERTY TO DR.

HARRIS. HE'S A GREAT GUY AND HE'S GOT GREAT CATTLE AND GREAT HORSES.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE HIM UP AND DOWN DOVE WHEN YOU DRIVE THERE.

THEY'RE KIND OF COOL.

I LIKE THEM. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION WHERE THIS PROPERTY WAS DESIGNED ORIGINALLY. AND I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REAL ESTATE.

SO THIS PROPERTY WAS DESIGNED TO GO WITH THIS.

THIS HOUSE WAS DESIGNED WAS CARVED OUT OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND IT IS IN A KIND OF A TOUGH SITUATION IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HORSES AND HORSE FLIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF RIGHT ON YOUR PROPERTY.

AND I FEEL FOR RANDY AND HIS WIFE, HIS FAMILY, THEY'VE DONE GREAT THERE.

AND HE HE TOOK CARE OF THAT PROPERTY.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I ENCOURAGED HIM TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

I WANTED IT TO STAY CLEAN.

AND WE HAD THAT AND WE TOOK CARE OF IT.

AND HE KIND OF TOOK IT OVER FROM US.

AND SO AND HE HAD THE PERMISSION AND MY UNDERSTANDING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

NOBODY ELSE IS TAKING CARE OF IT FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS OTHER THAN HIM.

AND IT WAS A PRETTY ROUGH PROPERTY.

AND HE'S CLEANED IT UP. AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A HORSE PASTURE ANYMORE.

IT LOOKS IMMACULATE.

HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF MAINTAINING THAT.

HIS PROPERTY AND IT'S KIND OF SPILLED OVER INTO THE THE ADJACENT LAND THERE.

SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF-- RANDY TRIED TO LEASE THE PROPERTY WHEN HE BOUGHT THE HOUSE, AND IF IT IS TO BE LEASED, I THINK HE SHOULD BE GIVEN FIRST RIGHT TO LEASE THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. CAN CAN YOU ANSWER A QUESTION FOR ME ABOUT IT OR I MEAN, SO WE'VE LEASED THE LAND ALREADY? HAVE WE SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH SOMEONE? THAT IS YOUR ITEM 4 G THIS EVENING, YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING THAT THAT LEASE AGREEMENT.

SO AND DO YOU HAVE-- I LOOKED AT THAT SLIDE EARLIER TODAY WITH HOW MANY DIFFERENT FOLKS HAVE LEASED THAT PROPERTY OVER THE YEARS.

IT'S BEEN SEVERAL. YES, MA'AM.

I GUESS I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW EVERY-- WE'VE HAD SO MANY LEASE AGREEMENTS WITH PEOPLE ON THAT PROPERTY AND--.

SO IT'S BEEN PRETTY REGULARLY LEASED, 10 AND 12 AND THEN AND WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING? WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYONE LEASING IT SINCE 2012? NO, MA'AM, NOT ACCORDING TO OUR RECORDS.

SO NO ONE--. SO WHO ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO CONTACT WHEN YOU WANT TO LEASE THE PROPERTY? THAT'S USUALLY THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND SO FROM 2012 TO 2020, NOBODY CONTACTED US THROUGH THAT.

AND YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCEDURE.

BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE COME TO THE CITY AND SAY THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TALKED TO SOMEONE IN PASSING, BUT NOBODY'S FILED ANY PAPERWORK WITH THE CITY.

TO LISA. CORRECT? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY FORMAL.

MR. WOLF INDICATED HE HAD A CONVERSATION.

AND THE LEASE IS JUST FOR TWO YEARS.

IT'S TWO YEARS AND THE PARK BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS WAS THAT THE COMMUNITY SERVICE DIRECTOR COULD ADMINISTRATIVELY RENEWED LEASE UP TO THREE TIMES FOR ONE YEAR PERIOD.

SO IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR A FIVE YEAR LEASE, BUT THOSE WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE AFTER TWO YEARS. BUT AGAIN, OF COURSE, IS THE TERMS ARE ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.

SO YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MODIFY IF NEEDED.

OK, DO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW DIRECTOR TRIBLE IS OUT ON MEDICAL LEAVE.

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DO YOU KNOW IF WE WERE AWARE THAT SOMEONE WAS ACCESSING OUR PROPERTY AND MAINTAINING IT OR DOING WHATEVER, CUTTING GRASS SHOPPING OR WHATEVER? RIGHT. I BELIEVE AS PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS, COUNCIL WAS MADE AWARE THERE WAS ACTUALLY TWO PARTIES THAT WERE INTERESTED IN THE LEASING OF LAND.

SO THAT WAS MADE AWARE AT YOUR LAST MEETING.

OK, THANKS. SO I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION FOR COUNCIL RIGHT NOW IS WHETHER WE LEAVE IT ON CONSENT OR WE TAKE IT OFF CONSENT AND HAVE OTHER CONVERSATION WITH STAFF ABOUT IT.

I'M YOU KNOW, IT'S--.

I MEAN, THIS IS A HARD ONE.

I MEAN, I FEEL FOR THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S BEEN TAKING CARE OF IT.

YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH LEAVING IT ON CONSENT AND LEASING IT.

I WONDER IF WE COULDN'T TALK TO STAFF ABOUT GETTING WITH DR.

HARRIS AND POTENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT COMMON ACCESS OR SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO WORK OUT SOME SOMETHING TO KIND OF BRIDGE THE GAP HERE. BUT WE'VE GOT A LEASE IN FRONT OF US.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS A CATTLE GATE.

AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS AERIAL TO THE WOULD BE TO THE WEST, WHICH I ASSUME IS THE MAIN POINT OF ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.

THE ONLY THING IF YOU DECIDE TO LEASE TO DR.

HARRIS IS THAT THE NOTICE THAT THE LOOKS LIKE THE SIDE FENCES OR THE FENCING AROUND THE PROPERTY, AT LEAST ON THE TWO SIDES, HAVE BEEN REMOVED.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT IT, BUT MAYBE CREATE A SET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LOT BOUNDARY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES OF POSSIBLE LIVESTOCK RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE YOU SEE ON THIS.

SO AERIAL HERE, YOU CAN SEE IT IS FAIRLY CLOSE AND LOOKS LIKE THE ONE STRUCTURE GARAGE OR A CARPORT MAY BE RIGHT ON--.

THESE AREN'T SURVEY LINES, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE OK, SO THAT'S THE PROPERTY LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THAT AUXILIARY BUILDING? WELL, IT'S A GIS.

SO IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL SURVEY, BUT IT'S PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE GENERAL VICINITY.

SO THAT BUILDING LOOKS LIKE IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE THE MAIN HOUSE HERE, WHATEVER THE STRUCTURE IS HERE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE, AS MR. WOLF WAS EXPLAINING, THE CLOSENESS OF THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE MAIN HOUSE AS WELL.

WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH DR.

HARRIS AND SEE IF HE COULDN'T SET THE FENCE BACK A LITTLE BIT, GIVE THEM SOME MORE BREATHING ROOM? IS THERE A FENCE? IS THERE--. DID YOU SAY THERE'S NOT A FENCE THERE NOW--? THERE'S NOT A FENCE. WHEN DID THE FENCE GET TAKEN DOWN? I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, THIS IS A FAIRLY RECENT PICTURE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A GOOGLE STREET VIEW, BUT IT'S WINTERTIME.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S NO FENCES ON THE AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR IF THERE'S A FENCE ON THE BACK PROPERTY LINE OR NOT.

OK, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

THERE WAS A FENCE THERE.

WAS THE FENCE ON OUR PROPERTY OR ON THE HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY? I ASSUME WHEN THIS WAS PROPERTY THERE HAD TO BE A FENCE ON THE CONCRETE PROPERTY.

I ASSUME IT WAS A BARBED WIRE TYPE FENCE.

OK, BUT THEN THE RIGHT. SO WHERE DID OUR FENCE GO? BECAUSE IF WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WE BOUGHT THE FENCE.

IN 2012, WE HAVE PROBABLY TAKEN DOWN.

AND WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, I MY GUESS RIGHT. RIGHT. SO FOR CATTLE.

RIGHT. YES. SO AT SOME POINT THERE WAS A FENCE THERE, BUT PROBABLY THROUGH 2012 AT LEAST.

YES. I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE FENCES WAS REMOVED.

IT WAS REMOVED PRIOR TO WHEN WE PURCHASED IT OR AFTER.

BUT I'M SORRY, I CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.

SO DID WE REMOVE THE FENCE? I'M SORRY.

SO OUR FENCE GOT REMOVED, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO REMOVED IT.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS REMOVED BY THE INDIVIDUAL WHOSE LEASING IT FOR GRAZING BEFORE. BUT CURRENTLY THERE'S NOT A FENCE UP THERE.

HOW FEASIBLE WOULD IT BE TO IF WE PUT-- OR SOMEONE PUT A FENCE UP TO OFFER A SETBACK, AS

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YOU CALL IT, TO GIVE THEM SOME QUOTE UNQUOTE, BREATHING ROOM? I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.

I MEAN, YOU'RE CONSIDERING LEASE AND YOU CAN ALWAYS PUT IT INTO A CONDITION OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL 10 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, THAT'S DOABLE AS PART OF THE MODIFICATION TO THE LEASE IF YOU DECIDE TO LEASE THE PROPERTY. BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE A FENCE ESTABLISHED, CORRECT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE WE HAVE LIVESTOCK ON THERE YOU HAVE TO PUT A FENCE UP.

SO I'M OK WITH THIS ON CONSENT WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO STAFF TO TALK WITH DR.

HARRIS ABOUT TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE FENCE.

BUT I LEAVE THAT IN KEN'S DISCRETION.

OK, BUT HERE'S MY PROBLEM.

THIS IS-- WE NEED TO DO THINGS CORRECTLY.

LET ME ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SO WE OWN THE CITY, THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE OWNS PROPERTY.

THIS IS OUR PROPERTY.

AND THE FENCE GOT TAKEN DOWN.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, OUR FENCE IS GONE.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO LEASE IT TO SOMEONE FOR CATTLE AGAIN, LIKE WE DID PREVIOUSLY.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TO PUT THE FENCE BACK UP.

BUT WHY ARE WE-- WHY DO THEY HAVE TO PUT THE FENCE IN A-- I MEAN, WHERE IS OUR PROPERTY? SHOULDN'T WE PUT OUR FENCE ON OUR PROPERTY LINE? WELL, YOU CAN PUT IT BECAUSE WE OWN THE PROPERTY.

WE CAN CHOOSE OR CONSTRUCT THE LESSEE TO PUT THE FENCE WHEREVER WE DEEM IT APPROPRIATE.

SO BUT WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE.

CORRECT. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.

SO WE START MOVING FENCES, WE'RE STILL OBLIGATED.

I MEAN, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO GO OUT THERE AND SURVEY THE LAND.

I DON'T KNOW. DO WE HAVE A SURVEY? I'M GUESSING WE--.

IT HAS BEEN PLANNING.

YEAH. I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE THAT PROPERTY LINE IS, WHERE IT TRULY SHOULD BE.

I WOULD SUGGEST YOUR MAYOR, YOUR HONOR.

THANK YOU, SIR. I WAS IN COURT EARLIER TODAY, BY THE WAY.

I WOULD SUGGEST I THINK I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS NOW THAN I DID 20 MINUTES AGO ON THIS ITEM.

AND I THINK GIVEN OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS TO OUR NOVEMBER 17TH MEETING AND GIVE BOTH PARTIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PERHAPS LEASING THIS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND PRESENT THEIR CASES TO US.

AND MAYBE WE COULD HAVE SOME MORE ANSWERS BY THEN.

BUT WE'RE KIND OF SPINNING OUR WHEELS HERE.

WELL, I DON'T SEE-- I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS I WANT TO KNOW, BUT I'M FINE.

IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO, I'M FINE WITH KEEPING IT ON CONSENT.

I'VE GOT A BIGGER PROBLEM WITH THE FACT THAT OUR FENCE GOT TAKEN DOWN.

AND I WANT OUR FENCE PUT BACK UP.

AND BECAUSE THAT'S THE CITIZEN'S LAND, IT DOESN'T BELONG TO ANYONE ELSE.

IT'S THE CITIZENS, THE TAXPAYERS LAND.

AND I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING.

YEAH. I WANT TO SEE WHERE THAT PROPERTY LINE IS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE OTHER ISSUES BECAUSE EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A PARK.

THIS IS ALREADY ON OUR MASTER PLAN.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PARKING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TRAILHEADS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ACCESS. WHO KNOWS WHAT THE PARKS BOARD WILL DECIDE TO DO.

AND I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A PROBLEM FOR THE FUTURE AND FOR FUTURE PARKS BOARD OR FUTURE COUNCIL, QUITE HONESTLY, WHO HAS TO COME IN HERE AND TELL SOMEONE NOW WE'VE GOT TO MOVE A FENCE AGAIN. AND THEY DON'T REMEMBER BACK IN TWENTY TWENTY WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE SITUATION. IT'S A FAIR POINT.

WHERE IS THE FENCE? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. WELL, I MEAN, PENDING A SURVEY, I JUST BELIEVE THE LEASE ON CONSENT AND MOVE FORWARD.

YEAH I'M FINE, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

BUT IF ANYONE-- YOU DO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE IT OFF CONCERN OR DO YOU WANT TO--? DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE ON CONSENT OR DO YOU WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE IT OFF OF CONSENT? COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

THIS IS CONSENT SO WE CAN JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

BY LEAVING IT ON YOU JUST LEAVE EVERYTHING AS IS.

WELL, THIS NEW-- SO THE GENTLEMAN THAT WE'RE ENTERING INTO THE CONTRACT WITH TO LEASE THE LAND WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO PUT OUR FENCE BACK UP.

AND THEN I GUESS KEN CAN WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOMEOWNER IN THE CENTER OF THIS PROPERTY IS AFFECTED AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE.

SO WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, STAFF WILL HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT MOVING THAT FENCE LINE. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOW COMFORTABLE ARE WE WITH THAT? HOW COMFORTABLE WOULD WE BE? I MEAN, YOU CERTAINLY BRING UP THIS PANDORA'S BOX, BUT THAT'S ALL KINDS OF ISSUES.

IF WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THE PROPERTY LINE.

YEAH, THE PROPERTY LINES, THE PROPERTY LINE.

NO, BUT I MEAN, THE SURVEY, THE SURVEY AND MORE THAT FENCE WOULD BE AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SET BACK FROM THERE, OR WOULD WE BE COMFORTABLE? WELL, SO TO PUT UP A FENCE, YOU GET TO PULL A FENCE PERMIT IN THE CITY IS GOING TO REQUIRE

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A SURVEY AT THAT POINT. SO THAT IS LIKELY GOING TO FOLLOW ON THE LEASE ANYWAY.

SO. WELL, YOU LEAVE IT ON CONTENT, WE CAN PULL IT, VOTE SEPARATELY OFF OF CONSENT ON IT.

I MEAN, I'M FINE LEAVING IT ON CONTENT, BUT WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT.

I'LL GO WITH THE MAJORITY RULE OVER THERE, GUYS.

YEAH, I'M FINE. I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY NO DIFFERENT.

STAFF HAS TO HANDLE THESE TYPE OF THINGS.

MY ONLY COMMENT TO STAFF IS THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS CLEANED UP SO THAT IT DOESN'T CREATE A PROBLEM FOR THE FUTURE.

I MEAN, THIS SHOULD THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

THE FENCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE FOR HOWEVER MANY YEARS, NO MATTER WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.

I'M GOOD LEAVING ON CONSENT.

OK, THAT ITEM STAYS.

SO WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[Executive Session]

SO AS MAYOR, I HEREBY ADVISE YOU THAT WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO SEVEN ONE TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO SEVEN FOUR TO DELIBERATE REGARDING PERSONNEL MATTERS AND SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO EIGHT SEVEN TO DELIBERATE REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.

BEFORE WE GO OUT AND WHEN WE COME BACK IN, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ITEM SEVEN D FIRST.

SO I'D LIKE TO ASK IF ANYONE'S IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT WAITING ON ITEMS THAT ARE AFTER-- WILL BE AFTER SEVEN D THAT YOU PLEASE UTILIZE THE OVERFLOW ROOM, WHICH IS THE COURTROOM ACROSS THE LOBBY.

AND WE WANT TO LEAVE THE SEATING IN THIS ROOM FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HERE SPEAKING ON SEVEN D, WHICH WILL BE QUITE A CONTROVERSIAL ITEM.

SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR HELP ON THAT.

OK, WITH THAT, WE'LL BE BACK IN AN HOUR.

SO 745.

THANK YOU. OK, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE REGULAR OCTOBER 20TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.

IS THERE ANY ACTION NECESSARY FOLLOWING EXECUTIVE SESSION.

NO MATTER MAYOR. OK, GREAT.

MAYORS REPORT, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THIS EVENING OTHER THAN I WANT TO WELCOME

[Item 3]

CHIEF BRANDON BACK.

WE'RE VERY, VERY HAPPY.

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS PRAYED FOR HIM.

HE'S BEEN TO HELL AND BACK, BUT HE IS BACK NOW AND WE ARE THRILLED TO HAVE HIM.

YOU WERE GREATLY MISSED AND WE'RE GLAD THAT OUR PRAYERS WERE ANSWERED AND YOU ARE BACK HEALTHY. SO NICE TO HAVE YOU.

ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

SHANA.

THE COUNCIL, NO REST FOR THE WEARY.

I'M GOING TO ASK CHIEF BRATTON TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING UNLESS YOU'D PREFER TO DO IT FROM HERE.

THAT'S FINE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IT IS NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AND GOOD TO BE BACK.

THANK YOU. I WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE THIS EVENING AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE NATIONAL TEEN DRIVER SAFETY WEEK, WHICH YOU MAY RECALL IS A CAMPAIGN SPONSORED BY THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION THAT RUNS FROM OCTOBER 18TH THROUGH THE 24TH.

AND THE FOCUS OF THE CAMPAIGN IS TO HELP PARENTS KEEP THEIR TEEN DRIVERS SAFE BY ENCOURAGING THEM TO REALLY HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE TEEN DRIVERS ABOUT DISTRACTED DRIVING AND THOSE NEGATIVE DRIVING BEHAVIORS.

AND LET'S NOT OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT THAT MAY ALSO HELP THE PARENTS DURING THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL.

ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT EVENTS THAT WE'LL DO DURING THIS WEEK IS THE TEEN TRAFFIC TALK EVENT.

EXCUSE ME. SO THAT EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE THIS SUNDAY, OCTOBER 25TH, FROM THREE TO FOUR AT THE MARK AT THE FOR UNITY AND CULTURE. AND THE EVENT WILL BE PRESENTED BY SEVERAL OF OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND IS GEARED AGAIN TOWARDS THOSE TEEN DRIVERS AND FOCUSES ON HAVING SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THOSE TEEN DRIVERS ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT IF THEY'RE PULLED OVER AND CONTACTED BY NOT ONLY A SOUTHLAKE OFFICER, BUT ANY POLICE OFFICER.

SO HOW TO BEHAVE DURING THAT INTERACTION, WHAT WE EXPECT FROM THEM AND WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT FOR US.

IT'S ALSO WORTH HIGHLIGHTING THAT THOSE STUDENTS WILL RECEIVE TWO HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE CREDIT FOR THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT CONCLUDES A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

GREAT. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? ONE THING I WANT TO SAY, I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT THE MAYOR'S ALLIANCE IS PARTNERING WITH THE SOUTHLAKE POLICE ON THIS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME UP IN OUR MAYORS ALLIANCE MEETINGS AND ALSO CAME UP IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WE WERE DISCUSSING RACISM AND THE ISSUES WITH RACISM OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PRIMARILY OUR PARENTS OF COLOR BROUGHT UP, THAT THEY WORRY THAT WHEN THEIR CHILDREN LEAVE THE HOUSE, THAT IF THEIR CHILDREN GET PULLED OVER FOR SPEEDING, THEIR CHILDREN ARE DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THAT.

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AND THE PARENTS ACTUALLY FEAR FOR THE CHILDREN BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME YOU LET YOUR KID OUT ON THE ROAD, IT'S A BIG THING WITHOUT YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE.

BUT WE REALLY GOT TO DISCUSSING IT.

AND IT'S NOT JUST A PROBLEM FOR FOLKS OF COLOR.

IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ALL OF OUR CHILDREN THAT THEY JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACT.

THEY GET VERY NERVOUS.

THEY MAKE THE WRONG MOVE, THEY SAY THE WRONG THING.

AND WE WANT THEM TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WHEN THEY GET STOPPED BECAUSE WE'VE ALL GOTTEN STOPPED AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GET STOPPED THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES.

SO IT'S ALWAYS A LITTLE UNSETTLING, BUT USUALLY THE OFFICER IS HAPPY TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT YOU WERE DOING WRONG.

SO THIS WILL BE A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME ROLE PLAYING AND FOR THE KIDS TO BE ABLE TO ASK WHAT'S ON THEIR MIND OF THE POLICE OFFICERS WITHOUT PARENTS BEING THERE SO. IF THEY SIGNED UP AS OF TODAY.

THAT'S HOW MANY FIFTY ALREADY? THAT'S FABULOUS.

THAT'S FABULOUS. I HOPE MORE PEOPLE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

WE'RE DOING IT OUTSIDE AT A COUPLE OF PARENTS HAD ASKED ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHY WE'RE NOT DOING THIS VIRTUALLY.

WELL, NUMBER ONE, I'M NOT GOING TO FILM ANYTHING WHEN THERE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE SPEAKING, OK, SO THAT WE DON'T DO THAT.

NUMBER TWO, WE WANT KIDS TO FEEL THAT THEY'RE IN A SETTING WHERE THEY'RE NOT BEING JUDGED, WHERE THEY CAN ASK DIRECTLY WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM AND SOMETHING I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO DO.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. OK, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS CONSENT.

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I DID UNDERSTAND THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT WAS ON CONSENT EARLIER TONIGHT.

BUT WE CLOSED THAT CONVERSATION AND DECIDED TO KEEP EVERYTHING THAT WAS ON CONSENT, ON CONSENT. SO WITH THAT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER MOTION TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH FOUR P, NOTING THAT WITH RESPECT TO ITEM FOUR B, WE'RE APPROVING THE CANCELATION OF THE NOVEMBER 3RD TWENTY TWENTY CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

WITH RESPECT TO ITEM FOUR C, WE'RE APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER TWENTY, DASH ZERO FOUR NINE, ADOPTING A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR THE EIGHTY SEVENTH TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

WITH RESPECT TO ITEM FOUR E APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER TWENTY DASH ZERO FOUR FIVE, PANDEMIC VACATION CARRY OVER POLICY.

WITH RESPECT TO ITEM FOUR G, WE'RE APPROVING A GRAZING LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE AND OF UNDEVELOPED CITY PARK PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LONESOME DOVE ROAD AND FIREFOX LANE AND REFERRED TO AS THE THREE OH THREE LONESOME DOVE ROAD.

THIS TWO YEAR LEASE INCLUDES THREE ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS THAT MAY BE AUTHORIZED ADMINISTRATIVELY BY THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.

AND ALSO WITH RESPECT TO ITEM FOUR H, WE'RE APPROVING AN ORDINANCE NUMBER ONE, TWO, THREE, THREE. FIRST READING ADOPTING THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE STANDARDS OF CARE FOR THE RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN OPERATED BY THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. AND THEN ALSO WE'RE MOVING SOME ITEMS FROM OUR REGULAR AGENDA TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND WE'RE APPROVING THOSE ITEMS. FIRST UP IS ITEM SEVEN B, AGAIN, BEING MOVED FROM THE REGULAR AGENDA TO CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVING THAT ITEM.

ORDINANCE NUMBER FOUR EIGHTY DASH TWO SEVEN THREE B, CASE NUMBER ZA TWENTY DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR ONE. FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOUR SEVEN FIVE ONE AND SEVEN SEVEN ONE EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 13TH TWENTY TWENTY AND REVISED SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER FOUR DATED OCTOBER 13TH TWENTY TWENTY.

KNOWING THAT WE'RE APPROVING THE SITE PLAN ELEVATION'S FOR THE BUILDING EXPANSIONS, WE'RE ALLOWING BARBER AND BEAUTY SHOPS AND MEDICAL OFFICE USES UP TO TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE USABLE AREA AND NOTING THAT A REGULATION HAS BEEN ADDED TO DESIGNATE THE MINIMUM WEST SIDE YARD SETBACK AT 10 FEET INSTEAD OF 15 FEET AS THE MINIMUM SETBACK REQUIRED IN THE BASE OH ONE OFFICE DISTRICT ZONING.

WE'RE ALSO MOVING FROM REGULAR AGENDA TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 7C ORDINANCE NUMBER AND MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT ITEM.

ORDINANCE NUMBER FOUR 80, DASH SEVEN SEVEN TWO.

CASE NUMBER ZA 20, DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR EIGHT.

FIRST READING ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR THE LANDMARK OFFICE LOCATED AT SEVEN FIFTY NORTH CARROLL AVENUE, SOUTH TEXAS, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 13TH TWENTY TWENTY AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER TWO DATED SEPTEMBER 8TH TWENTY TWENTY.

KNOWING THAT WE'RE ALLOWING A REGULATION TO ALLOW THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE TO EXCEED SIXTY FIVE PERCENT WITH THE ADDITION OF SEVEN PARKING SPACES TO THE EXISTING PARKING LOT.

ALSO MOVING FROM REGULAR AGENDA TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM EIGHT A, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS ITEM. THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER TWENTY, DASH ZERO FOUR EIGHT TO APPOINT A MEMBER TO FILL A VACANCY ON THE COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

THAT ITEM IS BEING TABLED TO OUR NOVEMBER 17TH TWENTY TWENTY CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

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NEXT, WE'RE MOVING FROM OUR REGULAR AGENDA TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVING ITEM NINE A, CASE NUMBER MSP TWENTY DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO FOUR, AN AMENDMENT TO THE WATER METER CONDITIONAL SIGN PERMIT SIGN REGULATIONS LOCATED AT ONE OH ONE AND TWO OH ONE TWENTY AND NOTING THAT WE ARE APPROVING THE REVISED MONUMENT SIGNS AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. WE'RE ALSO MOVING FROM REGULAR AGENDA TO CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVING ITEM NINE B, CASE NUMBER SV TWENTY DASH ZERO ZERO ONE THREE.

A SIGN VARIANCE FOR THE TOM THUMB GROCERY STORE LOCATED AT ONE HUNDRED WEST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD SUITE TWO HUNDRED SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 13TH TWENTY TWENTY, NOTING THAT WE'RE APPROVING THE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE THIRD SIGN FOR THE TOM THUMB GROCERY STORE.

AND WE'RE APPROVING SIGN OPTION NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE ALL BLACK LETTER SIGN.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE'RE MOVING FROM OUR REGULAR AGENDA TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVING ITEM TEN A, WHICH CONSISTS OF PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO RUSTIN AND FAMILY PARK AND FRANK EDGAR CORNISH THE FOURTH PARK SUBJECT TO OUR MEMORANDUM DATED OCTOBER 13TH, TWENTY TWENTY, AND NOTING THAT WE'RE ADOPTING THE PARK'S BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THE THE NEXT ITEM.

THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM, SO I'LL OFFER ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK.

SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER TONIGHT.

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WE HAVE ITEM SEVEN D, WHICH A LOT OF FOLKS ARE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING THAT ITEM FIRST TONIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF ANYONE'S IN THE AUDIENCE ON AN ITEM OTHER THAN 7D, IF YOU WOULD MAKE YOUR SEAT AVAILABLE.

WE HAVE SEATING OVER IN THE COURTROOM, ACROSS THE LOBBY, SO THAT WE HAVE AMPLE SEATING FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN ITEM SEVEN D.

BEFORE WE GET INTO ITEM SEVEN D, I WANT TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF HOUSE CLEANING ITEMS. THIS IS THE FIRST READING FOR THIS ITEM.

WHAT THAT MEANS, IS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL BE FORMALLY PRESENTED WITH THIS ITEM. WE'LL GET A UPDATE AND CLEAR PATH FROM OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING. AND THEN WE WILL ALSO HAVE INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THE PROJECT.

AND THIS HAS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL STEPS TO WHERE IT GOT TO THIS POINT.

THE LAST BEING, PLANNING AND ZONING.

EVERYONE ON COUNCIL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

SO THOSE OF YOU THAT SPOKE, WE WERE ABLE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE DO DIFFERENTLY AT COUNCIL.

I DO NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO YIELD THEIR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL, IF YOU HAVE AN OPINION, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD. I'LL CALL YOU FORWARD.

AND THEN AT THE END, IF ANYONE DECIDES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO, IN FACT, SPEAK WITH DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY, I'LL GIVE YOU THE CHANCE TO COME FORWARD ALSO.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL.

YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING TO ANYONE IN THE ROOM.

I'M NOT AS NICE AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER.

SO IF YOU WANT TO CLAP OR BOO OR HAVE SIDE CONVERSATIONS, YOU'LL BE ASKED TO LEAVE BY THE POLICE OFFICER. THAT WAY WE CAN REALLY HEAR WHAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE SPEAKING ARE SAYING SO THAT WE CONSIDER EVERYONE'S OPINION.

THIS IS NOT A SUPER MAJORITY TONIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS FIRST READING.

SO WE WILL VOTE.

THE VOTE TONIGHT WILL BE WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE THE ITEM TO SECOND READING.

NORMALLY AT FIRST READING, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO HEAR THE CASE AND TO ASK OUR QUESTIONS OF STAFF AND THE APPLICANT.

AND WE GENERALLY DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

BUT SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT, WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

WE'LL HAVE THE LIGHT ON AT THE PODIUM, ALTHOUGH YOU'LL BE TALKING OVER AT THE MICROPHONE AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR EACH PERSON TO SPEAK.

SO THAT USUALLY IS PLENTY OF TIME.

THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO DO BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE HAVE A LITTLE UNUSUAL SITUATION BECAUSE OUR CITY ATTORNEY, WHO'S USUALLY HERE WITH US, ALAN TAYLOR, IS AT HOME AND CANNOT, FOR PERSONAL FAMILY REASONS, CANNOT COME IN A PUBLIC SETTING LIKE THIS.

BUT THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT AS A COUNCIL IN DEALING WITH THIS, THAT WE HAVE GOT TO CONSIDER RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE AND RIGHTS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE WHEN MAKING A DECISION ON AN ITEM LIKE THIS. AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO THIS EVENING IS START THE MEETING BY GIVING OUR CITY ATTORNEY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE LEGAL ASPECTS THAT WE HAVE TO

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CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS.

AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND TELL EVERYONE THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LET MR. TAYLOR SPEAK.

THERE'LL BE A FIVE MINUTE PAUSE IF I ASK HIM A QUESTION BEFORE HE STARTS TO ANSWER.

SO I'M SORRY.

FIVE SECONDS. I SAY FIVE MINUTES.

OH, MY GOSH. WELL, BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

NO QUESTIONS. NO.

SO ANYWAY, THIS IS A BIT UNUSUAL, BUT THERE REALLY IS NO LAWYER IN THE STATE, IN MY ESTIMATION, WHO KNOWS CITY LAW BETTER THAN ALAN TAYLOR.

SO GIVE THE STAFF A SECOND.

OH, THERE HE IS. HEY, ALAN.

AND BY THE WAY, THE ONLY MICROPHONE ALAN CAN HEAR IS MINE.

AND SO WHAT I HAVE TOLD THE COUNCIL IS IF THEY DO HAVE ANY QUESTION AFTER ALAN SPEAKS TO ALL OF US, THEY'LL BE WRITING THOSE QUESTIONS OUT AND GIVING THEM TO ME.

BUT AS I ASK THE QUESTION, I'LL BE NOTING WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED THAT QUESTION.

SO, AGAIN, WE FELT IT IMPORTANT THAT MR. TAYLOR BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING.

SO WE'VE GOT HIM WEBEX'D IN.

OK, GOOD EVENING, ALAN.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN.

OK, THANK YOU. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, ALAN--.

BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO DO ALAN TO KEEP THIS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE AS I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET YOU SPEAK TO US ABOUT THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WITH THIS CASE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT COUNCIL WILL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IF WE DO, I WILL HAVE THOSE FOR YOU WHEN YOU'RE DONE SPEAKING.

SO I GIVE THE FLOOR TO YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THIS CASE WITH COUNCIL, BUT I WANT TO BE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH THE SORT OF THE RULES OF THE ROAD AS WE APPROACH IT.

THE CONSERVATION IS A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL ON A SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS SOME UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGES.

IT'S A LAND LOCKED PARCEL OF LAND THAT DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO A PUBLIC ROADWAY.

I THINK THE COUNCIL, OF COURSE, REMEMBERS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST TWO OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS ON THIS TRACK THAT WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.

AND WE ARE REACHING THE STAGE WHERE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE FIND A WAY FOR THE OWNER OF THE LAND TO ACHIEVE SOME TYPE OF ECONOMICALLY VIABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY.

UNDER TEXAS LAW AND FEDERAL LAW RELATING TO LAND USE REGULATION, A LOCAL GOVERNMENT ADOPTS LAND USE REGULATIONS THAT SUBSTANTIALLY ADVANCE LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENTAL INTERESTS OR PURPOSES. BUT THE REGULATIONS HAVE TO PERMIT PROPERTY OWNERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THEIR LAND. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THE LAND LOCK TRACK OF PROPERTY HAS GOT TO ACQUIRE ACCESS.

AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE PLANNING STAFF IS RAISED WITH ME IS DO WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES ACCESS THROUGH ADJOINING PROPERTIES? AND THE ANSWER UNDER TEXAS LAW IS YES, WE DO.

UNDER TEXAS COMMON LAW, IF A TRACT OF LAND IS CUT OFF FROM A LARGER TRACT AND LANDLOCKED, THERE IS BY DEFINITION AN EASEMENT OF NECESSITY THAT IS CREATED UNDER TEXAS PROPERTY LAW AND IS SUPPORTED BY ALL OF THE TEXAS AND FEDERAL CASE AUTHORITIES.

THE PROPERTY HAS TO HAVE ACCESS TO SOME PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE FROM PARCELS OF LAND THAT AT SOME POINT HISTORICALLY IN THE PAST WERE PART OF THE LARGER OVERALL LAND AREA FROM WHICH THIS CURRENT TRACT WAS CARVED.

UNDER THE DOCTRINE OF EASEMENT BY NECESSITY, THERE HAS TO BE AN EASEMENT PROVIDED OVER THAT LAND.

NOW WHERE IT IS LOCATED, THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE SOME DISCRETION TO CONSIDER OR TO MANEUVER A ROADWAY ENTRY TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A METHOD OF PROVIDING AN ACCESS. AND I'VE TOLD THE PLANNING STAFF WE REALLY DON'T HAVE AN OPTION HERE.

WE HAVE TO APPROVE SOME TYPE OF VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE AREA.

THE QUESTION THEN AROSE OF WHAT ABOUT RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS OR DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT MIGHT PROHIBIT CERTAIN TYPES OF USES ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES THROUGH WHICH AN EXCESS WAY WOULD HAVE TO BE CUT? THAT REALLY IS IRRELEVANT TO THE CITY.

CITIES ARE NOT BOUND BY THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS OR COVENANTS.

WE ARE A GENERAL PURPOSE UNIT OF GOVERNMENT WITH PLENARY AUTHORITY AND JURISDICTION OVER THE LAND AREAS IN QUESTION.

WE HAVE EMINENT DOMAIN AUTHORITY UNDER CHAPTER TWO FIFTY ONE OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND CHAPTER TWENTY ONE OF THE PROPERTY CODE.

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AND WE CAN PLACE AN ACCESS EASEMENT OR ROAD FOR PUBLIC USE OR PUBLIC PURPOSES WHEREVER WE DEEM NECESSARY.

THE EXISTENCE OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WILL NOT PRECLUDE OUR ABILITY TO DEVELOP A ROADWAY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES IS THEY ARE RESTRICTED TO SINGLE FAMILY USE.

WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ROADWAY ACROSS THEM WOULD NOT HISTORICALLY BE CONTRARY TO THE CASE LAW ABOUT WHAT CAN OCCUR ON PROPERTIES OF THAT NATURE.

UTILITY EASEMENTS AND ROADWAYS ARE NOT CONSIDERED NECESSARILY INCOMPATIBLE USES OR PROPERTY THAT'S DESIGNATED FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

MOST SUBDIVISIONS ARE DENOMINATED IN THE CONDITIONS, COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS AS SUITED AND FOCUSED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

BUT THEY CONTAIN INTERNAL ROADS AND UTILITY EASEMENTS.

SO THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ISSUE IS REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD CONSTRAIN THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF PROVIDING ACCESS.

WE ARE FACED WITH A SITUATION WHERE THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION HAS ONCE IT HAS ACCESS, WE THEN DETERMINE WHAT THE REQUEST, THE DEVELOPMENT REQUEST IS AND COMPARE IT TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS AREA OF THE COMMUNITY CALLS FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL PRESENTED TO THE CITY NOW CALLS FOR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH AN AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF APPROXIMATELY AN ACRE AND A HALF.

THE NET OF EACH LOT, EVEN REMOVING RIGHTS OF WAY OR EASEMENTS, IS GREATER THAN AN ACRE, IT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE DEFINITIONS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THEREFORE, WHEN AN APPLICANT COMES FORWARD AND SEEKS EITHER A VESTED RIGHT ZONING OR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING, THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT AT LEAST PASSES THE THRESHOLD REQUIREMENT THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR THAT AREA.

IF WE DENY A ZONING CHANGE, WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A MANNER THAT DEMONSTRATES WE ARE NOT BEING EITHER CAPRICIOUS OR ARBITRARY, AND WE ARE TREATING TRACTS OF LAND IN A MANNER SIMILAR TO OTHER SIMILARLY SITUATED TRACTS.

SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS ALL LARGE LOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND WHAT THE CONSERVATION IS PROPOSING IS LARGELY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING PATTERN OF SURROUNDING LAND USAGE. THE PLANNING STAFF HAS INDICATED TO ME THERE'S BEEN CONCERN ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

I HAVE, IN THE PAST, CAUTIONED THE COUNCIL ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS.

CITIES HAVE ENORMOUS JURISDICTIONAL AUTHORITY TO REGULATE LAND USE IN MANY WAYS, BUT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND SELECTION IS ONE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THAT GREAT AN AREA OF DISCRETION AT OUR DISPOSAL.

IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE LEGISLATURE IMPOSED REGULATIONS DEPRIVING THE CITY OF THE RIGHT TO EVEN REQUIRE CERTAIN EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS OR ESTHETIC DESIGN REQUIREMENTS. IF A BUILDER PROPOSES TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME AND THE MATERIALS ARE THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE ARE APPROVED WITHIN ANY ONE OF THE LAST THREE ADDITIONS OF THE BUILDING CODE, THEN THEY ARE ACCEPTABLE MATERIALS AND THE CITY CANNOT SAY NO.

SO WE'RE KIND OF A LITTLE BIT IN A BOX.

WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DISCUSS ARCHITECTURAL PRESENTMENT, ONLY THE CHARACTER OF THE LAND USE AND WHETHER IT IS COMPATIBLE UNDER OUR MASTER PLAN.

IF WE ARE TO DENY THE PROPERTY OWNER THE RIGHT TO USE THE PROPERTY, THEN WE FALL UNDER THE SPECTRUM OF A POSSIBLE REGULATORY TAKING, THAT'S INVERSE CONDEMNATION.

IF WE END UP SAYING NO, WE SIMPLY WON'T ALLOW DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DISTURB THE HISTORIC FOREST LIKE CHARACTER OR THE RURAL SETTING IN THAT AREA, THEN WHAT THE COURTS WILL SAY IS YOU HAVE TAKEN THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY INTEREST, A REASONABLE INVESTMENT BACK EXPECTATION OF THE LANDOWNER TO USE THEIR PROPERTY TO CREATE A PRIVATE OR PUBLIC PARK.

YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT.

YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO PAY THE LANDOWNER FOR THE VALUE OF THE INTEREST TAKEN.

SO I CAUTION THE CITY PLANNING STAFF THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE.

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THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO HAVE SOME REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF BEING ABLE TO USE THE PROPERTY OR EITHER ANOTHER LANDOWNER, A GROUP OF LAND OWNERS OR A GOVERNMENTAL UNIT WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE THE LAND TO EXTINGUISH THE LANDOWNERS RIGHT TO USE THEIR PROPERTY.

I RECOGNIZE THAT MAY BE NOT WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR, BUT SOMETIMES THAT'S THE REALITY OF WHERE WE ARE.

IN THIS INSTANCE, THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE HAD OTHER CITIES ATTEMPT TO STOP OR SLOW DEVELOPMENT TO PRESERVE GREEN SPACE OR TO REDUCE THE CHARACTER OF GROWTH, AND IF YOU DO IT BEYOND A CERTAIN LIMIT, MEANING YOU TAKE AWAY REASONABLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, YOU CAN END UP FINDING YOURSELF IN FEDERAL COURT EXPLAINING A TAKINGS EVENT.

NOW, THE CITY ALWAYS HAS THE RIGHT TO LIMIT DEVELOPMENT.

A DEVELOPER DOES NOT HAVE AN UNLIMITED RIGHT TO BUILD THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY CAN ACHIEVE ON THEIR PROPERTY. BUT IF A CITY ADOPTS A REGULATION THAT LIMITS THEIR ABILITY TO BUILD SO GREATLY THAT SOMEONE IN THAT INDUSTRY COULD TRULY SAY, YOU CANNOT VIABLY USE THE LAND BECAUSE IT COSTS TOO MUCH TO PUT IN THE UTILITIES, THE ROADWAY AND THE RAW LAND COST, IF YOU WOULD ONLY ALLOW, LET'S SAY, ONE HOME ON A 10 ACRE TRACT OF LAND, BUT YOU REQUIRED AN EXTENSIVE ROADWAY OR UTILITY SYSTEMS, IT IT'S A TAKING.

YOU HAVE MADE THE LAND UNUSABLE.

WHEN WE ADOPT A REGULATION, IT HAS TO SUBSTANTIALLY ADVANCE A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE.

WE CAN IMPOSE LIMITS ON SIZE, ON HEIGHT, ON IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.

WE CAN REQUIRE CERTAIN TYPES OF BUILDING SETBACKS.

WE CAN REQUIRE CODE BASED CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND PUBLIC WORKS INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE THEY ACHIEVE A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE.

BUT ONCE WE ACHIEVE THAT PURPOSE, WE'VE MET THE PUBLIC NEED.

IF WE ESTABLISH STANDARDS GREATER THAN THAT, THEN WE CROSS THE LINE WHERE WE ARE AT RISK.

I APOLOGIZE FOR ALL OF THAT, BUT I PROMISED KEN I WOULD BE SURE I THOROUGHLY COVERED IT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE GLAD TO TRY AND ADDRESS THEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I SOUND LIKE I'M FROM MARS.

OK, ALAN, IN THAT WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

IT'S HALLOWEEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

STAFF, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

I APPRECIATE IT. OK WITH THAT.

DIRECTOR BAKER, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

THANKS, JOE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THIS ITEM TO YOU AND I'LL TRY TO BE AS ELOQUENT AS MR. TAYLOR.

THE PROPOSAL THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST ZONING CHANGE ON PROPERTY REFERRED TO AS THE CONSERVATION FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE BURNEY ESTATES.

AS THIS CAME THROUGH THE QUARTER PLANNING COMMITTEE.

THE OWNER, MARILYN MILES AND ERROL AND LESLIE HOUSMANS.

APPLICANT ROCKWATER DEVELOPMENTS.

AND AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS IN APPROVAL OF A ZONING CHANGE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO DEVELOP EIGHT RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND APPROXIMATELY THIRTEEN POINT ONE ACRES.

THE EXISTING ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL ON THE MILES PIECE AND SF-1A ON THE HOUSMANS LOT, LOT 10 BLOCK TWO IN THE HARBOR OAKS SUBDIVISION.

A REGIONAL AERIAL TO JUST PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT TO EVERYBODY ON THE DAIS AND WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. SOUTH OF LAKE GRAPEVINE, YOU CAN SEE THE HARBOR SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST, HUGHES HOME PLACE DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN A FEW OTHER SUBDIVISIONS.

IT'S GOING TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

I ALSO HAVE THIS LATER AND FURTHER IN THE PRESENTATION.

BUT I THOUGHT JUST TO KIND OF FRAME UP THE CONVERSATION BEFORE WE GET INTO SOME OF THE

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OTHER SPECIFICS, I'D SHOW THIS ESSENTIALLY.

SO THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THEY'RE PROPOSING EIGHT TOTAL LOTS.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPOSED HARBOR OAKS LOT APPEARED THE TOP RIGHT, THE HOUSMANS LOT IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE BROUGHT INTO THIS RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH UNDERLYING SF-1A ZONING DISTRICT USES.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE SEVEN PROPOSED LOTS TO THE WEST ON THE MILES TRACT.

THE PROPERTY IS ACCESSED BURNEY LANE.

AND SO THERE WILL BE A PROPOSED 40 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WOULD MEANDER THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDING THE ACCESS.

SO THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE WRITING IN DEVELOPMENT REGULATION TO THEIR PUD REQUIREMENTS THAT THESE LOTS DO NOT HAVE TO FRONT ONTO A PUBLIC STREET.

SO AGAIN, THE GROSS ACREAGE, THIRTEEN POINT ONE ACRES, THE NET ACREAGE.

AND WHEN WE SAY NET ACREAGE, WE'RE REMOVING THAT ACCESS DRIVE THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE, WHICH IS ABOUT ONE POINT ZERO THREE ACRES.

SO OUR NET ACREAGE IS TWELVE POINT ZERO SEVEN.

NET DENSITY IS POINT SIX SIX THREE DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE.

AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, AS MENTIONED, THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE ONE DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE.

SO THIS MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT.

FROM A FUTURE LAND USE STANDPOINT, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS IS THE PRIMARY IN THIS AREA, YOU CAN SEE THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH. AND THERE IS A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY IN THE NORTHWEST THAT FALLS INTO THE FLOODPLAIN DESIGNATION.

SO, AGAIN, THE PURPOSE IS PROVIDED FOR AND TO PROTECT LOW INTENSITY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROMOTES THE OPENNESS AND RURAL CHARACTER OF SOUTHLAKE.

AGAIN, THE NET DWELLING UNIT, ONE NET DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE IS THE REQUIREMENT.

JUST FROM A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STANDPOINT, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS WE WANTED TO MAKE THE COUNCIL AWARE OF IN RELATION TO NOT NECESSARILY FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, BUT JUST FROM SOME OF OUR OTHER PLANNING ELEMENTS SO FROM THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS MASTER PLAN THERE WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY SUPPORT OF AND ACCESS TO CITY PARK FACILITIES.

SO I'LL GET INTO THIS IN A LATER SLIDE, BUT I'LL SHOW SOME OF THE MASTER PATHWAYS PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS AND HOW THERE'S POTENTIAL TO TIE INTO THE CORPS PROPERTY TO THE WEST FROM THIS SUBDIVISION.

AGAIN, KIND OF A SIMILAR VEIN THERE.

THE PARKS MASTER PLAN CONNECT CITY SIDEWALKS TO PARK TRAIL SYSTEMS FOR A CONTINUOUS PEDESTRIAN SYSTEM.

CURRENT ZONING, AGAIN, THE MILES PIECE, AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AN UN-PLATTED TRACT, ABOUT 11 ACRES, AND THEN TO THE NORTHEAST, THE HOUSMANS LOTS APPROXIMATELY ONE POINT NINE ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED SF 1A AND IS A PLATTED LOT WITHIN THE HARBOR OAKS SUBDIVISION.

QUICKLY, JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONTEXT FOR THE SITE, AND THE DEVELOPER WILL CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO GET INTO MORE OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES AT THE SITE.

BUT THE THIN BLUE LINES REPRESENT THE TWO FOOT CONTOURS.

THIS IS RELEVANT PARTICULARLY HERE BECAUSE OF THE 572 FLOWAGE EASEMENT.

AND SO AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, THE DEVELOPER IS NOT ABLE TO PUT ANYTHING INTO THE 572 FLOWAGE EASEMENT.

LATER IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE WILL ALL KIND OF POINT THIS OUT MORE SPECIFICALLY WHERE IT'S LOCATED. BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE THE ORANGE SHADED AREAS REPRESENT 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN AND THE TRANSPARENT BLUE IS 500 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.

SO BY AND LARGE, THAT'S THE AREA WHERE THE 572 FLOWAGE EASEMENT IS LOCATED AND THAT'S A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT.

FROM ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, AGAIN, KIND OF FURTHER, YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT GREEN SHADED AREAS HERE REPRESENT EXISTING TREE COVER.

AND THEN THE OPAQUE LIGHT BLUE SHADED AREAS REPRESENT TREE PRESERVATION AREAS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES PROTECTION MAP.

THE BLUE LINE TO THE WEST SHOWS THE KIRKWOOD BRANCH OF THE CREEK ON THE CORPS PROPERTY.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE CORPS PROPERTY IS SHOWN HERE IN PINK.

JUST IN THE CONTEXT OF WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED, THERE'S A TRAIL ACCESS POINT, I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED THE HARBOR COURT TRAIL FROM HUGHES HOME PLACE THAT KIND OF MEANDERS UP TO THE WEST OF THIS SUBDIVISION.

SO FROM A TREE CONSERVATION ANALYSIS STANDPOINT, THE TOTAL EXISTING CANOPY IS ABOUT 91 PERCENT OF THE SITE.

THIS PROPOSAL IS BEING REVIEWED UNDER 585E THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

AND SO THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PRESERVE 30 PERCENT OF THE TREE CANOPY.

THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PRESERVE FORTY EIGHT POINT TWO PERCENT OF THE TREE CANOPY WITH A

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POSSIBLE PRESERVED TREE CANOPY OF THIRTY FIVE POINT TWO THREE PERCENT.

SO IN ESSENCE, THE REMOVED TREE CANOPY AREA ON THIS SITE IS SIXTEEN POINT FIVE PERCENT.

SO WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE ORDINANCE AND YOU CAN SEE THE BULK OF THE TREE REMOVAL FALLS WITHIN THE 40 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT AND THEN ON THE HOME PAD SITES.

MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, BUT THE SITE IS OFF OF BURNEY LANE, YOU CAN SEE THE NORTH SOUTH ROAD THERE BURNEY LANE WILL NOT PROVIDE ACCESS TO ANY OF THE LOTS.

OF COURSE, THE ACCESS EASEMENT, THE 40 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT WILL WILL PROVIDE THAT.

AND SO THERE'S NO PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO BURNEY LANE.

FUTURE PATHWAYS AND EXISTING PATHWAYS, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LINES HERE ON THIS SLIDE, BUT THE GREEN AND I'LL POINT TO IT, THIS SHOWS SOME EXISTING EQUESTRIAN TRAILS, THE GREEN AND THE PURPLE HERE IN THE LOCH MEADOW ESTATES SUBDIVISION HERE IN THIS KIND OF HARKENS BACK TO THE RECOMMENDATION, I POINTED OUT FROM THE PARK'S PLAN. BUT YOU SEE, THERE IS A PROPOSED TRAIL THROUGH LOCH MEADOW ESTATES TO LINCOLN TO THIS CORPS PROPERTY.

AND IN A FUTURE SLIDE, I'LL SHOW.

BUT WE ACTUALLY THE CITY, I SHOULD SAY, OWNS THIS THIS PROPERTY HERE.

AND THERE'S A LIFT STATION ON THAT LOT.

SO THAT'S THE FURTHER CONTEXT OF THE PARK'S PLAN RECOMMENDATION.

TO MY POINT EARLIER HERE'S LOT SIX.

THIS IS A COMMON AREA IN LOCH MEADOW ESTATES.

AGAIN, THE CITY IS THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND I SHOW THIS FOR THAT MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE POTENTIAL ACCESS TO THE CORPS PROPERTY FROM THIS SITE.

CURRENTLY, THERE'S A LIFT STATION THERE, AS NOTED AND QUITE A BIT OF VEGETATION.

SO SOME WORK WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE TO CONNECT INTO THAT AREA.

GETTING BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND I'LL GET INTO THE MOTION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND HOW THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED SOME OF THOSE ISSUES IN A FUTURE SLIDE. BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN AREA TO THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTH.

SOUTHWEST IS THAT AREA, RESIDENTIAL AREA BELOW THE FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO FLOAT FLOWAGE EASEMENT. SO NOTHING CAN BE PUT IN THAT PROPERTY.

ONE THING ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS ON THE BUILDING PAD SITES OF EACH OF THE LAST, THERE'S THREE SEPARATE SQUARE FOOTAGES PROVIDED.

WE'VE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO CLARIFY THE GROSS ACREAGE OF EACH OF THESE LOTS, THE NET ACREAGE, REMOVING THE ACCESS EASEMENT AND THEN EVEN FURTHER NETTING OUT ANYTHING IN THE FLOWAGE EASEMENT.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THAT THE TOP NUMBER IS GOING TO BE THE, OF COURSE, THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE BEING THAT IT NETS OUT BOTH THE FLOWAGE EASEMENT AND THE ACCESS EASEMENT. WHY THIS IS PARTICULARLY OF NOTE IS BECAUSE THE APPLICANT DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO SEWER, THEREFORE WILL BE PROVIDING A SEPTIC ONSITE SANITARY SEWER FACILITY AND PER ZONING ORDINANCE, SECTION 33, WE DO REQUIRE A USABLE ACRE OF LAND ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR THERE TO BE SEPTIC SYSTEM.

AND SO I BRING THAT UP BASICALLY TO NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT, IN FACT, DOES HAVE ONE ACRE OF USABLE AREA ON EACH OF THESE PIECES OF PROPERTY.

THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE GIVEN THE NET DENSITY, SO AGAIN, KIND OF GOING BACK TO REMOVING THE 40 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT IS FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT, FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED NINETY SQUARE FEET TO NINETY FIVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY TWO SQUARE FEET. THAT'S KIND OF THE RANGE OF LOTS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

APPROXIMATELY 11 PERCENT OF THIS SUBDIVISION FALLS WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE AREA, KIND OF SHOWN THERE IS OPEN SPACE, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND WILDLIFE EASEMENT.

THE APPLICANT HAS WRITTEN IN A DEVELOPMENT REGULATION TO THEIR PUD THAT THEY DON'T PROVIDE COMMON OPEN SPACE, WHICH WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT IN THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING. HOWEVER, THEY ARE STILL MEETING THAT WHAT WOULD BE 10 PERCENT.

AND I MENTION THAT JUST KIND OF NOTE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES HERE CONTAIN AT LEAST LOTS, TWO THROUGH FIVE CONTAIN PARTS OF THAT FLOWAGE AREA THAT THAT PEDESTRIAN WILDLIFE EASEMENT.

AND SO THAT WOULD FALL ON TO PRIVATE LOTS.

THE APPLICANT IS BASICALLY PROVIDING OR WRITING IN REGULATIONS SO AS NOT TO PROVIDE, AGAIN, THAT 10 PERCENT COMMON OPEN SPACE.

BUT THEY ARE PROVIDING SOME OPEN SPACE THAT WOULD BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.

AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, AGAIN, SEVEN NEW LOTS, THE LOT 10 BLOCK 2 IS AN

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EXISTING HOME. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT IS A TEAR DOWN REBUILD TYPE SITUATION. AND THEN JUST TO KIND OF BRING UP THE LENGTH OF THE CUL DE SAC FOR CONTEXT IS NINE HUNDRED AND SEVENTEEN FEET.

AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS DUE TO FIRE CODE REGULATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT HAVE TO BE ON A THOUSAND FOOT CUL DE SAC.

AND SO THEY'RE LESS THAN A THOUSAND FEET.

NINE HUNDRED SEVENTEEN FEET.

THIS JUST KIND OF GOES MORE INTO THE GROSS AND NET ACREAGE CALCULATIONS AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THE SLIDE, I'LL PROBABLY QUICKLY JUST GO THROUGH IT.

BUT JUST SO THE COUNCIL KNOWS, WE DO HAVE THIS CALCULATION OF ALL THE LOT SIZES AND WHERE THAT ENDS UP PUTTING A DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF DWELLING UNITS, AN ACRE, AND AVERAGE LOT SIZE AND SO FORTH.

AS NOTED, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEY TOOK THIS ITEM UP ON OCTOBER 8TH, IT WAS APPROVED FIVE TWO SPECIFICALLY INSTRUCTING THE APPLICANT AND NOTING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO ADDRESS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT ITEMS HERE, BULLETED. SO DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS, AND ALSO A PLAN THAT BETTER ILLUSTRATES HOW THAT ACCESS POINT WAS MOVED AND ANGLED DIFFERENTLY, SUCH THAT THE HEADLIGHTS AS YOU WOULD BE DRIVING EAST TOWARDS BURNEY WOULD BE LESS INTRUSIVE PER THE APPLICANT'S COMMENTS TO MS. VAN VAN SANT O'CONNOR, WHO LIVES DIRECTLY TO THE EAST.

AND THEY PROVIDED AN EXHIBIT THAT ILLUSTRATES HOW THEY'VE MADE THAT LESS INTRUSIVE TO MS. VAN VAN SANT. SO THEY'VE CHANGED THE ACCESS POINT, THE DRAINAGE THEY THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THEY'LL FOLLOW REQUIREMENTS.

AGAIN, I CAN CERTAINLY LET THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM KIND OF GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT, THAT THEY'VE INDICATED THEY MEET REQUIREMENTS.

SEPTIC SYSTEMS THEY'VE INDICATED WOULD BE BUILT TO CODE AND THEY WOULD WRITE INTO THEIR COVENANTS, CODES AND RESTRICTIONS ABOUT INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS AND THE FREQUENCY THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S PROPER MAINTENANCE, FENCING AND REMOVAL OF THE FENCING, THE SIGNAGE.

SO THE APPLICANT ON THEIR EARLIER PLAN PROVIDED A NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRY SIGN THAT SAID THE CONSERVATION ON LOT 10 BLOCK 2 WHICH IS THE HARBOR OAKS LOT AND BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS, THEY'VE REMOVED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRY SIGN AND RATHER JUST HAVE ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE AROUND PORTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I'LL POINT OUT HERE IN A MOMENT.

CURB AND GUTTER OPTIONS, INCLUDING REMOVAL.

THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WILL NOT BE REMOVING THE CURB AND GUTTER, GIVEN THE SIGNIFICANCE TO THE DRAINAGE ON THAT SITE.

SO I'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO THAT.

CULVERT LANDSCAPING SHIELD APPLICANT SAID THEY WOULD SCREEN ON STREET PARKING, ON STREET PARKING, WHICH IS ALLOWED.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ALLOWED.

THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT FURTHER AND THEN BE WILLING TO DISCUSS THE NUMBER OF LOTS, THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THE NUMBER OF LOTS FROM WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. SO, AGAIN, THIS SLIDE JUST INDICATES TO THE LEFT THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS SHOWN TO PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, YOU CAN SEE THAT ACCESS EASEMENT HAS BEEN SHIFTED. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE REMOVAL OF THE SIGN WALL, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT WAS WAS TAKEN OUT. AND SO THE FENCE EXHIBIT IS HERE AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALL, BUT THEY'RE SHOWING A ORNAMENTAL FENCE HERE AND THEN THEY'RE SHOWING ANOTHER FENCE HERE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS. AND SO THERE'S NO FENCE SHOWN ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH.

AGAIN, THEY PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO WRITE IN THE REGULATIONS, SO THESE ARE NOT VARIANCES, THEY'RE JUST REGULATIONS BEING WRITTEN INTO THEIR ZONING. SOME OF THE THINGS OF NOTE HOUSE SIZES THEY'VE WRITTEN IN WOULD BE FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, AS OPPOSED TO THE TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR SF 1A.

THE STREET WOULD BE A TWENTY FIVE FOOT BACK OF CURB, THE BACK OF CURB SECTION.

SO SIX INCHES CURB IN A 40 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT THERE AGAIN PROVIDING THAT THERE WON'T BE ACCESS ON TO A PUBLIC STREET THAT'S BEEN WRITTEN INTO THE REGULATIONS.

STREETLIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS, THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED THEIR PLAN TO REMOVE SIDEWALKS AND STREET LIGHTS, WHICH CAN BE WAIVED BY THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS FROM A STREET LIGHTS STANDPOINT, THERE ARE LOT LINES AS SHOWN, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN KIND OF SIGNIFICANT.

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THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED HOMES WOULD BE PROTECTED BY A FIRE SUPPRESSION SPRINKLER SYSTEM, WHICH IS TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU'D SEE IN A SIX THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

AND THEY'RE SHOWING THAT ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

CITY SEWER. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SEPTIC SYSTEM AND THEN A NEWER REGULATION THAT THEY WROTE IN, I GUESS JUST CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH THAT IF ANY TREES WERE DESTROYED IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND GRADING FOR THE ACCESS EASEMENT, THOSE WOULD BE REPLACED ON AN INCH BY INCH BASIS.

THESE ARE JUST SOME SIGHT IMAGES, SO THE TOP LEFT IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST TOWARDS THE HOUSMANS LOT, THE TOP RIGHT IMAGE IS LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS THE HOUSMANS LOT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT MRS. VAN VAN SANT O'CONOR HER PROPERTY IS THERE TO THE TO THE RIGHT.

THAT'S HER HOME.

AND SO THE ACCESS DRIVE WOULD COME SOMEWHERE IN THIS AREA.

AND THEN HERE'S ANOTHER IMAGE LOOKING SOUTHWEST TOWARDS THE HOUSMANS LOT, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE TOWARDS THE BACK THE EXISTING HOME SITE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN ONE THING TO POINT OUT, THE THE CLUSTER MAILBOX LOCATION IS SHOWN TO BE HERE WHERE THE RED ASTERISK IS LOCATED.

FROM A DRAINAGE STANDPOINT, I'VE KIND OF NOTED THAT THE APPLICANT CAN CERTAINLY GET MORE INTO THIS, BUT THE SITE IS EXTENSIVELY VEGETATED DRAINAGE FLOWS IN THE NORTHWESTERN DIRECTION TOWARDS GRAPEVINE LAKE.

I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK MORE TO THEIR PRELIMINARY GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLANS AND THEN FROM A PRELIMINARY UTILITY PLAN, THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO BE CONNECTING TO AN EXISTING EIGHT INCH WATER LINE OFF BURNEY LANE, PROVIDING FOUR SEPARATE HIGH FIRE HYDRANTS OFF OF THE ACCESS EASEMENT.

AND I'VE NOTED THAT SEWER IS NOT AVAILABLE.

SO THEY'LL BE DOING SANITARY SEWER FACILITIES.

MR. TAYLOR BROUGHT UP PREVIOUS ZONING CASES AND SO JUST QUICKLY CAN WALK THROUGH SOME HISTORY THERE. SO BACK IN TWO THOUSAND AND FIVE CASES WERE BROUGHT FORWARD.

BELLA LAGO, YOU MAY RECALL IN VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THIS EVENING, EXCEPT IT WAS NINE PROPOSED LOTS, SO EIGHT NEW WITH ONE EXISTING.

THIS ITEM WAS DENIED SEVEN ZERO ON FEBRUARY 21ST, 2006.

AND THEN THERE'S A BIT MORE TO THIS ONE, BUT BACK IN 2000, THIS ACTION WAS TAKEN IN MAY OF 2008, BUT A SIMILAR PLAN ULTIMATELY YOU HAD FIVE PROPOSED LOTS THAT WERE DENIED ON WHAT IS THE MILES TRACT TO THE WEST.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE YOU HAVE THOSE THREE CASES, 18, 017, 019 AND 018 THAT WERE A PART OF THIS APPLICATION, TERTIARY TO PROVIDE ACCESS.

AND THEN WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ENDED UP WITHDRAWING FROM THIS CASE. AND SO BECAUSE THOSE ITEMS WITHDREW, THERE WAS NO ACCESS TO THE MILES PIECE TO THE WEST. AND THEREFORE, COUNCIL TOOK ACTION TO ESSENTIALLY DENY BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ACCESS.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE. GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ON QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER THE APPLICANT.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT.

IF YOU CAN, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

THANKS. AND IF YOU'LL GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

YES, MA'AM. JODY BOYD, 20808 NORTHWOOD STREET, GRAPEVINE, TEXAS.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THIS IS AN UNPAID POSITION, SO I CAN APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS HERE.

IF YOU DON'T MIND PULLING UP OUR PRESENTATION.

I'LL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.

I KNOW THERE ARE PLENTY OF FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AGAIN, I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT THE CONSERVATION, JUST A

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GENERAL OVERVIEW OF OUR LOCATION HERE OFF OF BURNEY LANE.

WE'RE BACK UP TO THE CORPS PROPERTY.

VERY BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY, AS THE STAFF POINTED OUT, COVERED WITH TREES, LOTS OF WILDLIFE, REALLY A KIND OF A HIDDEN GEM UP HERE IN THE NORTH SIDE OF SOUTHLAKE ALONG CORPS PROPERTY.

ELEVEN POINT TWENTY FIVE ACRES.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH IT IS NO ACCESS.

THE CLOSEST THING THAT WE SAW FOR ACCESS WAS ALONG BURNEY LANE.

WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO OTHER ACCESS.

BUT AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS, THIS SEEMED LIKE THE MOST LOGICAL AND BEST PLACE TO GO.

WE'VE BROUGHT IN HERE OUR SOLUTION WAS TO COME OFF OF BURNEY LANE WITH AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY THERE TO THE WEST.

BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF THIS, MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS TWICE ON ZOOM CALLS BEFORE OUR SPIN MEETING. I'VE HAD FOLLOW UP MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

IN THE MEANTIME, TEXTING, TRYING TO MAKE THIS THE BEST POSSIBLE RESULT FOR ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS OUR PROPERTY OWNERS.

AS I SAID, WE BACK UP TO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS PROPERTY THERE TO THE WEST.

HERE'S OUR ACCESS EASEMENT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AND FOR MS. VANZANT WAS THE NEGATIVE IMPACT.

IF WE HAD THE ROAD THAT WAS JUST ON OUR SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE GOING STRAIGHT INTO HER HOUSE, WE'VE NOW ANGLED THAT.

SO THAT TRAFFIC COMING ON TO BURNEY LANE AND TURNING RIGHT DOESN'T SHINE RIGHT AT HER HOUSE. IT SHINES OFF TO THE SOUTH, MORE TOWARDS HER GARAGE.

SO DEFINITELY WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO OUR NEIGHBORS FOR THAT PURPOSE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED THE WAY THAT OUR ACCESS WAS LAID OUT FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING. OK, HERE WE CHOSE THE FIVE SEVENTY TWO FLOWAGE EASEMENT, WHICH WE'VE SINCE LEARNED. THERE IS ACTUALLY NOT PHLOGISTON ON THIS PROPERTY.

BUT REGARDLESS, WE'RE STICKING WITH OUR PLAN TO KEEP THAT FLOWAGE EASEMENT IN ITS NATURAL STATE WILDLIFE.

ONE OF THE THINGS FROM THE ZOOM MEETINGS THAT CAME OUT WAS THE WILDLIFE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEIGHBORS WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD IMPACT WILDLIFE. SO ONE OF THE CONCESSIONS THAT WE MADE WAS WE'RE GOING TO PUT AN ACCESS EASEMENT ACROSS OUR PROPERTY HERE AND ALSO OPEN IT UP TO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS SO THAT FOLKS THAT LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MARYLAND CAN COME DOWN OUR ACCESS EASEMENT TRANSIT THROUGH OUR PROPERTY INTO THE CORPS OF ENGINEER PROPERTY AND JOIN UP WITH THOSE TRAILS THAT GO ALONG THE WEST AND FURTHER WEST ALONG THE CORPS OF ENGINEER PROPERTY.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DO IS GIVE ACCESS TO OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE CORPS ACROSS OUR PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS . DRAINAGE, A LOT OF TALK AND CONCERN ABOUT DRAINAGE, I WILL SAY, WILL COMPLY WITH EVERY ASPECT OF CITY CODE OF TCEQ CODE OF THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

AS YOU SEE, WE'RE DOWN HILL FROM EVERYBODY.

SO DRAINAGE SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN THAT WE'RE TRANSITIONING ANY DRAINAGE THAT COMES THROUGH MR. FREDERICKS LOT UNDER OUR ROAD AND TO THE WEST TO WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE LARGEST DETENTION POND IN THE CITY, LAKE GRAPEVINE.

CERTAINLY ARE GOING TO BE SENSITIVE TO DRAINAGE.

ONE THING I WILL SAY HERE, WE ARE WILLING ON THE CURB AND GUTTER STREETS TO TRANSITION FROM A NON CURB AT OUR ENTRANCE ALONG BURNEY LANE AND THEN PICK UP THE GUTTER AS WE GO TO THE WEST IN ORDER TO KIND OF MORE MATCH THE FEEL OF BURNEY LANE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE IN HARBOR OAKS. SO I WANT TO BE SURE TO POINT THAT OUT.

WE ARE WILLING TO DO THAT TO TRANSITION.

I DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S THE BEST DEVELOPMENT RESULT TO DO AWAY COMPLETELY WITH THE CARBON GETTER, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO CATCH THAT WATER THAT COMES FROM THE SOUTH OF OF HOUSMANS LOTS AND DIRECT IT TO THE WEST SO THAT WE DON'T PUT ANY WATER ONTO MR. FREDRICKS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DEVELOPMENT DOES, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IS IMPROVE DRAINAGE SITUATIONS, BECAUSE WHAT IS NOT STUDIED NOW AND IT'S NOT BEEN ENGINEERED WILL BE ENGINEERED AND STUDIED.

SO WE JUST WANT TO PUT EVERYONE'S CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE TO REST.

WE'RE GOING TO COMPLY WITH EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED.

MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF OUR WATER.

OUR ENTRY HERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS THROUGH OUR MEETING AND THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WAS THEY DIDN'T WANT A LIT UP ENTRY SIGN THAT KIND OF DIMINISHED THE FEEL OF HARBOR OAKS AS YOU COME UP BURNEY LANE.

SO WE HAD PROPOSED AN ENTRY SIGN TO KIND OF BRACKET OUR ENTRANCE.

WE'VE REMOVED THAT.

ALONG BURNEY LANE THERE ON THE HOUSMANS LOT.

WE'RE GOING TO DO A 4 FOOT ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE WITH FIVE FOOT PILE ASTERS.

THERE'S A FOUR FOOT WROUGHT IRON FENCE THERE NOW, WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THAT, PUT A NEW FENCE IN, SO WE'LL UPGRADE THAT.

NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, THE CONCESSIONS THAT WE MADE WHEN WE TALK WITH MR. FREDERICKS, WHO MR.

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FREDERICKS AND MS. VAN VAN SANT, IN MY OPINION, THE TWO MOST IMPACTED NEIGHBORS, WE AGREED TO DO A WROUGHT IRON FENCE ALL ALONG OUR SOUTHERN BORDER THERE, THAT WE'D ALSO ADD GREEN SCREEN THERE TO MITIGATE ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FOR HIS ROAD.

WE'RE STILL WILLING TO DO THAT.

WE'LL PLANT CEDAR TREES THERE, DO IT ON A TRIANGLE SPACING SO THAT WHEN HE LOOKS OUT OF HIS BACKYARD TO THE NORTH, ESSENTIALLY HAVE A WROUGHT IRON FENCE WITH TREES THERE TO KIND OF SCREEN OUR ROADWAY THERE.

AND THIS KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS THE WAY THAT WE'VE CHANGED THE ROAD ON THE ACCESS TO BURNEY LANE IN ORDER TO LIMIT OUR IMPACT ON MS. VAN VAN SANT, IF YOU'LL SEE HERE, THE ORANGE DOTTED LINES SHOW WHAT THE THE DIRECTION THE HEADLIGHTS WOULD GO AS THEY'RE COMING TO THE EAST TOWARDS BURNEY LANE.

NOW, WHEN YOU GET TO BURNEY LANE, YOU'VE GOT TO KIND OF SQUARE IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE YELLOW DOTTED LINES REPRESENT.

SO OUR INTENT HERE WAS TO HAVE ZERO IMPACT WITH HEADLIGHTS SHINING INTO MS. VAN ZANDT'S HOME. THEY JUST BE SHINING INTO THE GARAGE, THE FRONT FACING GARAGE THERE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CHANGED WITH THE ROADWAY.

HERE'S OUR TREE PRESERVATION PLAN.

AS STAFF SAID, WE'RE GUARANTEEING WE'RE GOING TO SAVE ALMOST 50 PERCENT OF THE TREES THROUGH THE DARK GREEN AREA HERE.

OF COURSE, THE PINK AREA TREES ARE GOING TO COME DOWN FOR HOUSES AND ROADS.

THAT'S JUST A NECESSITY.

THE AERIAL PHOTO THERE, THAT'S BETWEEN THE GREEN AND THE PINK IS POTENTIALLY SAVE TREES.

WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET ANOTHER 20 TO 25 PERCENT OF THE TREES SAVED.

YOU KNOW, THESE HOUSE PADS REPRESENT AN 80 BY 80 HORSEPOWER.

SO IT'S A SIXTY FOUR HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT HOUSE PAD.

SO WE FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO SQUARE HOUSE.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE'LL BE SOME L SHAPED HOMES AND THERE'LL BE SOME POOLS.

BUT I THINK THE IMPACT FROM THE TREES WILL BE MINIMIZED BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SO MUCH THAT WE'RE ALREADY SAVING GUARANTEED FOR OUR ZONING HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO SAVE. SO I'M HOPING TO GET TO THAT 75, 80 PERCENT OF THE TREES THAT WE SAVE ON THE PROPERTY TO REALLY KIND OF ENHANCE AND SAVE THE RURAL FEEL AND CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

OK, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO IS KIND OF HIGHLIGHT HOW WE'RE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND ESSENTIALLY BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

SO WHAT WE DID IS WE BASICALLY SAID, OK, HOW CLOSE ARE WE GOING TO BE? HOW CLOSE ARE OUR HOMES GOING TO BE TO THE EXISTING HOMES IN HARBOR OAKS? AS YOU'LL SEE, MOST OF OUR HOMES ARE GOING TO BE AT LEAST 300 FEET FROM OUR NEIGHBORS IN HARBOR OAKS. I THINK THE CLOSEST THERE IS THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM OF ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FEET. HOWEVER, THERE'S PLENTY OF TREES AND SCREENING OTHERWISE THAT WILL SCREEN THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF IN COMPARISON, THE HOMES THERE ON THE BURNEY LANE.

THAT ONE THERE IS 250 FEET FROM ITS NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST.

SO WE FEEL LIKE CERTAINLY FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE CERTAINLY COMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS IN HARBOR OAKS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS, AS I SAID, WITH THE DRAINAGE, WE'RE DOWNHILL FROM OUR NEIGHBORS. THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

AS IT GOES, THERE'S SECTION AA YOU CAN SEE THE DOTTED RED LINE UP ON TOP.

WE'RE ACTUALLY 13 FEET BELOW THE RIGHT OF WAY OF BURNEY LANE TO THAT FIRST LOT, NUMBER ONE RIGHT THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE UP THE ROADWAY TO SEE THAT HOUSE, WE'RE CERTAINLY WELL BELOW BURNEY LANE WITH TREES TO SCREEN THAT AND HOUSES AND OTHERWISE. AND WE JUST WON'T PICK THE BEST ONE; WE WANT TO DO ALL OF THEM.

SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE AS YOU GO TO THE SOUTH? THE NEXT ONE HERE, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TONS OF TREES BETWEEN US AND BURNEY LANE.

WE HAVE MR. FREDRICKS HOUSE.

WE'RE ALSO 12 FEET BELOW BURNEY LANE HERE.

JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THESE HOMES UNLESS YOU DRIVE DOWN OUR STREET.

AND TO BE FAIR, WE WANT TO KEEP GOING SOUTH.

WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE HERE, SECTION CC? WHILE IT'S NOT NEARLY AS LOW ON BURNEY LANE, IT IS STILL TWO FEET BELOW BURNEY LANE.

BUT HERE AGAIN, YOU HAVE ALL THE TREES THAT WE PROPOSED TO SAVE, AS WELL AS KIND OF A LITTLE RISE THERE FROM BURNEY LANE FROM OUR NEIGHBORS.

SO, AGAIN, WE THINK WE'LL BE SCREENED FROM REALLY ANYBODY EVEN SEEING US OFF A BURNEY LANE. SO, WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WITH THESE CROSS SECTIONS.

OK, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT WE'RE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WE DON'T FIT IN WITH WHAT IS GOING ON WITH HER HARBOR FOLKS.

SO WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS, TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT HOW WE ACTUALLY DO FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO MAKE A CUSTOM NEIGHBORHOOD FIT INTO A CUSTOM AREA.

SO IF YOU TAKE THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO LAKE GRAPEVINE, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY BEACHFRONT PROPERTY. RIGHT.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE UP AGAINST THE LAKE.

THEY WANT TO BE UP AGAINST CORPS PROPERTY.

THOSE LOTS ARE TYPICALLY SMALLER AS YOU GET THE DESIRABILITY OF BEING UP AGAINST YOUR PROPERTY AND HAVING A LAKE VIEW.

KIND OF LOOK AT OUR NEIGHBORING PARCELS HERE DUE WEST IN LOCH MEADOW, THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE FOR THE LOTS THAT BORDER THE CORPS DIVISION OF OUR PROPERTY IN LOCH

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MEADOWS, ONE POINT ZERO EIGHT ACRES, AVERAGE LOT SIZE, WHICH WERE OUR AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS ONE AND A HALF ACRES. SO WE'RE MUCH LARGER THAN THOSE LOTS TO THE WEST AS YOU GO TO THE NORTH IN CARMEL BAY.

THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IN CARMEL BAY IS POINT EIGHT ACRES, SO ALMOST DOUBLE THAT FOR OUR AVERAGE LOT SIZE JUST COMPARED TO OUR NEIGHBORS THERE TO THE NORTH A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, PENINSULA DRIVE TO THE WEST.

I MEAN, THOSE MIGHT AS WELL BE APARTMENTS AT POINT THIRTY FIVE ACRES THERE.

SO WE'RE CERTAINLY MUCH BIGGER THAN THOSE AT ONE AND A HALF ACRES AVERAGE.

OK, SO HARBOR OAKS, OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE.

WHILE THERE ARE LARGER LOTS AND OAKS, THERE'S NO DOUBT THOSE LOTS TO THE NORTHEAST OF US AVERAGE THREE POINT EIGHTY SIX ACRES.

THAT'S NOT THE SUM TOTAL OF THE LOTS IN HARBOR OAKS, WHILE WE'RE MUCH SMALLER THAN THOSE, CERTAINLY, WE ARE VERY COMPATIBLE.

AS YOU COME UP, BURNEY LANE, WITH THOSE LOTS THAT ARE CLOSER TO US.

THE LOTS THERE JUST TO THE WEST, THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE THERE IS ONE POINT FORTY SIX AND THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE THAT BORDERS OUR PROPERTY, ONE POINT SEVENTY THREE.

BUT WE'RE RIGHT IN THE WHEELHOUSE OF AVERAGE LOT SIZES ALONG BURNEY LANE AND HARBOR OAKS.

HERE AGAIN IS OUR MASTERPLAN COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST THE ECONOMICS OF THIS SUBDIVISION, THESE ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CUSTOM HOMES, SIMILAR TO MANY OF THE NEW CUSTOM HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN HARBOR OAKS.

FROM A COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT AND FROM A ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT AND AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY.

AND WE'VE TRIED TO DO OUR BEST TO MAKE A CUSTOM DESIGNED PROJECT FOR A CUSTOM DESIGNED AREA. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I'LL STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT RIGHT NOW? OK, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME LATER. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OK, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD EVEN THOUGH THIS IS FIRST READING AND ALLOW CITIZENS TO SPEAK.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS.

I'LL INVITE YOU TO COME FORWARD.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, PLEASE SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL AND NOT TO THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.

AND WE WILL HAVE THE LIGHT GREEN YELLOW TO GET READY TO WRAP IT UP AND THEN READ.

AND THEN ONCE YOUR COMMENTS ARE COMPLETE, THEN I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO FIRST, I'D LIKE TO INVITE MR. MARTIN NEWBY TO COME FORWARD AND THEN FOLLOWING HIM WILL BE HEIDI L., IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY. SO YOU CAN BE READY, HEIDI.

AND MR. NEWBY, IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MARTIN NEWBY.

I LIVE AT TWENTY EIGHT EIGHTY FIVE BURNEY LANE.

AND I'M A REGISTERED VOTER IN SOUTHLAKE.

STILL EXISTING CHALLENGES.

A SIMPLE DRIVE THROUGH THE EXISTING COMMUNITY WOULD CLEARLY REVEAL OUR RURAL, EQUESTRIAN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH TWO ACRE LOTS AND OPEN NATURE.

THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM MANY AREAS IN SOUTHLAKE.

THE SOUTHLAKE 2035 LAND USE PLAN, STATES IN OBJECTIVE ONE POINT THREE ENCOURAGES APPROPRIATELY SCALED NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN THAT COMPLEMENTS EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WHILE CREATING UNIQUE PLACES.

RECOGNIZING THAT QUALITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THE CONSERVATION PLAN OF ONE POINT ONE SIX TO ONE POINT EIGHT ACRE LOTS CLUSTERED AROUND A NARROW BOULEVARD IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THIS COMMUNITY, LOTS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ARE OVER TWO ACRES IN SIZE AND SOME MUCH LARGER IN THE HARBOR OAKS SUBDIVISION.

LOT WIDTH OF ADJACENT PLOTS ARE A MINIMUM OF TWO HUNDRED FIFTEEN FEET COMPARED TO NARROW LOTS OF 130 FEET IN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

UNLIKE THE CURRENT LOTS OF HARBOR OAKS, THE PROPOSED LOTS INCLUDE THE PRIVATE ACCESS, EASEMENT AND DETERMINATION OF LARGE SIZE, AND THEREBY THE PROPOSED LOTS ARE EVEN SMALLER THAN STATED. A 40 FOOT PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT WITH CURB AND GUTTER PAVEMENT DOES NOT MATCH THE 60 FOOT DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY CURRENTLY PRESENT IN HARBOR OAKS.

WE ALSO QUESTION THE DEVELOPER'S PLAN TO PLACE AN ENTRANCE THROUGH A PLATTED LOT WITHIN HARBOR OAKS SUBDIVISION, LOT NUMBER TEN.

THE PROPOSED ROADWAY WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 80 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY, WITH HEADLIGHTS AND TRAFFIC DRASTICALLY AFFECTING PREVIOUSLY ISOLATED ADJACENT LOTS.

THE DEVELOPER STATES THE CONSERVATION IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE.

HOWEVER, ITS LACK OF COMPATIBILITY TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS OBVIOUS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADJACENT LOTS AND THEN WITH ADDING STREETLIGHTS AND POTENTIAL FUTURE GATE ARE ALL NOT COMPATIBLE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE FORTUNATE TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY OF FREEDOM TO OWN PROPERTY.

THAT FREEDOM COMES WITH RULES TO ENSURE PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED.

DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE PRIVATE CONTRACTUAL COVENANTS THAT GOVERN THE USE OF LOT OR PARCEL OF LAND. DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE PERMANENT AND TIED TO THE LAND AND BIND ALL CURRENT AND FUTURE OWNERS OF LOT OR PARCELS.

THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE ENFORCED TO ENSURE THE CONTINUITY OF A SUBDIVISION, I ASK FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP TO UPHOLD THE HARBOR OAKS DEED RESTRICTIONS.

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IF WE ALLOW LOT TEN TO CHANGE THESE RULES, THE RIGHTS OF ALL LANDOWNERS AND HARBOR OAKS ARE AT RISK BECAUSE OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS WOULD NO LONGER BE VALID AND ENFORCEABLE.

AND IF LOT TEN DOES CHANGE THE RULES, WILL THEY BE GOVERNED BY THE DEED RESTRICTION TO BOTH HARBOR OAKS AND THE CONSERVATION? THE PROPOSAL WAS A DIED IN 2006 AND 2008 WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE BY CITY COUNCIL.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH THE CHALLENGES OF DEVELOPING THIS LAND.

PLEASE CONTINUE TO UPHOLD THE PRIOR DECISIONS TO DENY THIS ALMOST IDENTICAL PROPOSAL OF TWENTY TWENTY, WHERE THE MINIMUM RESOLVE THE COMPROMISE, ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO SUBMIT A REVISED LOWER DENSITY PLAN.

SPECIFICALLY, WE PROPOSE THE HUGHES HOME PLACE AS A MODEL.

I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ENERGY AND THE SUPPORT YOU GIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

HEIDI L., IF YOU'LL GET READY.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, I'LL HAVE LISA BOYER YOU CAN BE GETTING READY.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS HEIDI L.

AND I HAVE LIVED AT 2920 HARBOR REFUGE IN THE HARBOR OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MY HUSBAND AND THREE TEENAGE DRAGONS FOR 13 AND A HALF YEARS.

WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THE CURRENT PROPOSED PLAN BY THE APPLICANT SATISFIES THE CONCEPT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAT OF ONE HUNDRED PLUS YEAR OLD UNDISTURBED WOODED ACREAGE CONSTITUTES A MAJOR LAND PIECE IN THE SOUTHLAKE COVE ECOSYSTEM AND ALSO SERVES AS THE MAJOR WILDLIFE CORRIDOR ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE COVE.

CRITICAL TO THIS PROPERTY IS ITS ADJACENCY TO THE CORPS PROPERTY THAT FORMS PART OF THE MOST DYNAMIC AND IMPORTANT NATURAL HABITAT EPICENTER OF THE SOUTHLAKE STEWARDSHIP AS PART OF THE KIRKWOOD QUAIL CREEK CORRIDOR.

THIS AREA OFFERS AMPLE NATIVE FOOD SUPPLY, SUFFICIENT HABITAT ACREAGE, A DYNAMIC AND BALANCED FOOD CHAIN AND AMPLE SOUTHLAKE TWENTY THIRTY FIVE OBJECTIVE ONE POINT FOUR ASK THE DEVELOPERS, QUOTE, EMPHASIZED CREATIVITY AND ENSURE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP IN THE DESIGN OF ALL DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, MAXIMIZING THE PRESERVATION OF DESIRABLE NATURAL FEATURES SUCH AS TREES, TOPOGRAPHY, STREAMS, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND HABITAT.

DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT CRITICAL OVERVIEW WILL ALTER THIS NATURAL ECOSYSTEM FOREVER. IF EFFORTS ARE NOT MADE TO MINIMIZE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, THE RESULT WILL BE THE TOTAL ELIMINATION OF A VITAL PART OF THE REMAINING NATURAL ECOSYSTEM THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

WITH THAT, I, ALONG WITH MY NEIGHBORS, WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO VISIT OUR BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE FOR YOURSELF WHAT A TRUE TREASURE IT IS.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS LARGE, WIDE OPEN PROPERTIES, MANY HORSES AND HORSE TRAILS THROUGHOUT, AND HAS A VERY INTENTIONAL AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED RURAL FEEL.

WE LIKE IT THAT WAY AND WE BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HAS LARGE HOUSES ON LONG, NARROW LOTS THAT ARE GENERALLY SMALLER THAN THE MAJORITY OF LOTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, CURBS AND SIDEWALKS, STREETLIGHTS AND CERTAINLY NO ROOM OR APPROPRIATE PLACES FOR HORSES, MUCH LESS THE ALREADY EXISTING WILDLIFE. IF YOU PICTURE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS IN NO WAY THE SAME.

TO BE CLEAR, WE ARE NOT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.

WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR IS A PLAN WHERE WE ARE NOT JUST TOLD THAT IT IS COMPATIBLE, BUT A DEVELOPMENT THAT TRULY MATCHES OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF YOU TAKE SOME TIME TO VISIT, THERE ARE SEVERAL NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY THOSE MOST AFFECTED, THAT WOULD WELCOME YOU TO SEE FOR YOURSELF HOW THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS IN NO WAY COMPATIBLE WITH THE TRUE FEEL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME AND ENERGY FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO FOR SOUTH LAKE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. LISA BOYER AND THEN AFTER LISA WELL HAVE AMY NEWBY.

SO MS. BOYER.

GOOD EVENING, I'M LISA BOYER, I LIVE AT TWENTY NINE HUNDRED HARBOR REFUGE AND I LIVE IN SOUTHLAKE WITH MY THREE LITTLE KIDS TWO OUR DRAGONS AT JOHNSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND ONE WILL BE SOON. SO I'M OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT PROPOSED PLAN BY THE APPLICANT.

CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY OF THE CURRENT CONSERVATION PROPOSAL GENERATES A MAJOR ISSUE WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SEWAGE TREATMENT SYSTEMS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LINKED UP TO THE CITY WATER LINE.

WE HAVE SEVERAL OWNERS OF AEROBIC SYSTEMS IN THE AREA AND CAN OFFER THE FOLLOWING EXPERIENCE.

A 4500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE REQUIRES AN AERATION FIELD OF AT LEAST A QUARTER ACRE.

IT'S HARD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND HOW A PAD FOR A 6000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, SWIMMING POOL AND YARD COULD LEAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR AN APPROPRIATE AERATION FIELD.

AEROBIC SEWAGE TREATMENT SYSTEM FAILURE SHOULD BE ALSO A CAUSE FOR CONCERN.

EXPERTS IN THIS AREA WILL TELL YOU THAT A SURGE DEMAND CAN COST THIS SYSTEM FAILURES.

SURGE DEMAND SUCH AS A HOUSE FULL OF CHRISTMAS GUESTS WOULD BE A CONCERN.

FURTHER, ANY DETERIORATION OF THE BACTERIA COUNT INSIDE THE TREATMENT TANK CAN CAUSE A MASSIVE SYSTEM FAILURE.

BACTERIA DETERIORATION CAN BE CAUSED BY SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS AN ACCIDENTAL DISPOSAL OF A HOUSEHOLD CLEANER DOWN THE SINK, AN ACT THAT WOULD SEEM NORMAL IN A HOME CONNECTED TO CITY SEWER OR IN A HOME WITH A TRADITIONAL SEPTIC.

FINALLY, IT'S APPARENT THAT SEVERAL OF THE CURRENT LOTS WILL BE SPRAYING EFFLUENT IN THE

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FLOOD PLAIN. IN THE EVENT OF SYSTEM FAILURES, THE POSSIBILITY OF POLLUTION IN LAKE GRAPEVINE WOULD BE CONCERNING AS WELL.

WE CAN TELL YOU THAT THE SOLUTION FOR ANY FAILURE IS TO HAVE THE TREATMENT TANKS PUMPED OUT. THIS CAN TAKE THREE, TWO TO THREE DAYS TO SCHEDULE.

ALL THE WHILE, THE SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO AERATE HARSHLY TREATED WATER AND THE PROPERTY SMELLS LIKE RAW SEWAGE.

THIS PROPOSAL WAS DENIED IN 2006 AND 2008 WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

PLEASE CONTINUE TO UPHOLD THE PRIOR DECISIONS TO DENY THIS ALMOST IDENTICAL PROPOSAL IN 2020. AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LAND.

WE JUST WANT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE COMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. BOYER. NEXT UP, AMY NEWBY AND THEN DAN COMBE.

YOU CAN FOLLOW MS. NEWBY. HELLO, MY NAME IS AMY NEWBY, I LIVE AT 2885 BURNEY LANE, AND I'M A REGISTERED VOTER IN SOUTHLAKE.

I DO NOT FEEL THAT THE CURRENT PROPOSED PLAN BY THE APPLICANT HAS SOLVED ANY OF THE PREVIOUS AND STILL EXISTING CHALLENGES WITH THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE HARBOR COMMUNITY. THE ROUGHLY 200 ACRES AND 80 HOMES IN HARBOR OAKS IS SERVED BY ONE POINT OF ACCESS AND ONE MAIN WATERLINE.

SECTION 501C OF THE SOUTHLAKE ORDINANCE STREETS AND RIGHT OF WAY REQUIREMENTS STATES TO ENSURE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO EACH SUBDIVISION.

THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST TWO PLANNED POINTS OF ENTRY AND EXIT.

THE TWENTY EIGHTEEN INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE APPENDIX D STATES DEVELOPMENT OF ONE OR TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS WHERE THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS EXCEED 30 SHALL BE PROVIDED WITH TWO SEPARATE APPROVED FIRE APPARATUS ACCESS ROADS.

EXCEPTION NUMBER ONE: IF MORE THAN 30 DWELLING UNITS ON A SINGLE ACCESS ROAD ARE EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC SPRINKLER SYSTEM, THEN TWO ACCESS POINTS ARE NOT REQUIRED.

PLEASE REVIEW APPLICABLE CASE LAW TO DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE INTERPRETATION TO THIS EXCEPTION. THE INTENT OF THE EXCEPTION DOES NOT APPLY TO ONLY NEW DEVELOPMENT IN A SINGLE ACCESS IN A SINGLE WATER LINE AREA.

THUS, IF ONLY THE NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS AUTOMATIC SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, THEY CAN BE ADDED TO AN AREA WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE IMPACT OF THE SINGLE ACCESS AND SINGLE WATER LINE AND THE NEED FOR A SECOND WATER LOOP.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE EXISTING HOMES IN HARBOR ARE OLDER AND NOT EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. ALTHOUGH SPRINKLERS MAY HELP PROTECT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD ONLY SERVE TO EXACERBATE AN ALREADY BAD SITUATION FOR THE EXISTING FAMILY HOMES ALREADY DEPENDING ON ONE ACCESS AND ONE MAIN WATER LINE.

JUST BECAUSE A MISTAKE HAS BEEN MADE IN THE PAST REGARDING THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF ONE MAIN ACCESS POINT AND ONE MAIN WATER LINE DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO WORSEN THE MISTAKE.

MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE ENJOYED A SUCCESSFUL CAREER IN THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY CLAIMS WITH A COMBINED EXPERIENCE OF OVER 50 YEARS.

WE HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE DEVASTATION AND TRAGEDY THAT CAN OCCUR FROM FIRES DUE TO THE POOR PLANNING AND ZONING OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE INADEQUATE INTERPRETATION OF FIRE CODES. AS A COMMUNITY, WE ASK THAT OTHER EMERGENCY VEHICLE RESPONSE TIMES ASSOCIATED WITH POTENTIAL BLOCKAGE OF ONE POINT OF ACCESS BE ANALYZED.

WE FEEL A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR OTHER EMERGENCY VEHICLE RESPONSE TIME EVALUATION STUDY BE CONDUCTED TO DETERMINE THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS THAT CAN SAFELY BE ADDED TO THIS EXISTING SINGLE POINT OF ACCESS.

WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR DECISION BE MADE AFTER CONDUCTING EXTENSIVE STUDIES, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL RISKS AND A REVIEW OF ALL APPLICABLE LAWS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ALL FAMILIES IN THE HARBOR SUBDIVISION.

WE ARE RELYING ON YOU TO KEEP US SAFE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

MR. COMBE IS NEXT.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, EITHER SEAN OR MOLLY BROWN, WHICHEVER.

YES. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS DAN COMBE AND I'M AN ASSOCIATED BROKER WITH EBBIE HALLIDAY REALTORS HERE IN SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS. I LIVE AT THREE THREE NINE WEST HIGHLAND STREET HERE IN SOUTHLAKE.

I REPRESENT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AT THIRTY ONE EIGHTY FIVE SOUTHLAKE PARK AS THEIR AGENT. AND EBBIE HALLIDAY IS THE BROKER OF RECORD.

WHILE I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS TRANSACTION FALLS WITHIN 100 PERCENT OF THE GUIDELINES STATE OF TEXAS.

BY STRAIGHT ZONING, IT QUALIFIES FOR SF-1A AND IT MEETS THE OBJECTIONS OF OBJECTIVES OF SOUTHLAKE'S 2035 PLAN.

THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY FRED ELLYSON, CARL FRETWELL AND MARILYN MILES, THREE PEOPLE WHO ARE HEIRS OF BOB AND ALMEADY CHISUM JONES AND HEIRS OF THOSE WHOM THE CITY OF SOUTHLAKE HAS CELEBRATED HERE IN THIS VERY COURTHOUSE AS HISTORICALLY RELEVANT TO THIS CITY AND THIS COUNTY. I FIRST CAME IN CONTACT WITH THIS PROPERTY, NOT THROUGH THE HEIRS OF BOB AND ALMEADY CHISUM JONES, BUT AT THE REQUEST OF AN ADJACENT NEIGHBOR WITH WHOM I HAD SOLD THEM THEIR HOME. THIS PROPERTY OWNER DID, IN FACT, KNOW AT THE TIME OF THE PURCHASE THAT

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THEIR PROPERTY WAS NOT IN DIRECT CONNECTION WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS PROPERTY ON LAKE GRAPEVINE. I WAS SEEKING TO GAIN LEGAL ACCESS FOR THE PROSPECTIVE HOME BUYER ACROSS THE LAND, BUT COULD NOT GUARANTEE LEGAL ACCESS TO THIS LAND.

I QUICKLY FOUND THE HEIRS OF BOB AND ALMEADY CHISUM JONES TO BE A GOOD AND GODLY FAMILY WITH WHOM I AM VERY PROUD TO ASSOCIATE.

AT THE TIME OF MY ORIGINAL INTRODUCTION TO THIS LAND, NEITHER I NOR MY BUYER HAD KNOWLEDGE OF HOW MUCH PROPERTY THE JONES FAMILY HAD ORIGINALLY OWNED HAD ORIGINALLY OWNED. BOB AND ALMEADY OWNED THIS LAND HERE IN SOUTHLAKE AT LEAST 100 YEARS PRIOR TO OUR CONNECTION TO THIS LAND.

THE SELLERS, THE FAMILY OF THIS LAND, HAD OWNED THE LAND USED TO FORM NOT ONLY LAKE GRAPEVINE BUT ALSO OUR VERY OWN AND CELEBRATED BOB JONES PARK.

ZERO, AND I MEAN NONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE PROTESTING THIS APPLICATION, WERE OWNERS OF ADJACENT PROPERTY HERE IN SOUTHLAKE WITHIN 50 YEARS OF THE ORIGINAL POSSESSION BY BOB AND ALMEADY CHISUM JONES.

IN MY RESEARCH, I FOUND THAT MANY SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS HAD, IN FACT, BEEN CROSSING AND ACCESSING THIS JONES PROPERTY, WITHOUT PERMISSION FOR YEARS AND STILL TODAY.

IN FACT, THEY PASSED THROUGH ONE JONES PROPERTY TO ANOTHER JONES PROPERTY ON AND ON, AS IF IT WAS THEIR OWN. THERE ARE CURRENTLY 60 MILES OF SHORELINE AROUND LAKE GRAPEVINE FOR THE ACCESS OF NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, AND I CANNOT FATHOM HOW ANYONE COULD POSSIBLY BE SO INCREDIBLY SELFISH AS TO BLOCK THE DEVELOPMENT OF ONE SINGLE 11 ACRE PROPERTY FOR ONLY SEVEN ADDITIONAL NEW HOMES WHEN THERE ARE MILES UPON MILES UPON MILES OF PROPERTY TO ACCESS THE LAKE, AS REFERENCED BY ONE OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS.

TONIGHT, 80 VEHICLE TRIPS DAILY EQUALS ONE VEHICLE EVERY 20 MINUTES.

THAT'S QUITE AN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC FLOW, ISN'T IT? ONE VEHICLE EVERY 20 MINUTES.

THAT BEING SAID, IT'S MY DESIRE TO MAKE ACCESS THROUGH THE PROPERTY FULLY LEGAL BY ALL OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AND BY THE WAY, NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON WHO IS PROTESTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY HAS OFFERED TO BUY THE PROPERTY IN THE OVER FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DAYS THAT THIS WAS PUBLICLY LISTED.

PLEASE VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICANT TO KEEP THIS FROM BEING A PROBLEM FOR OUR CHILDREN AND THE MAJORITY OF SOUTHLAKE, YOUR VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICANT IS A VOTE BOTH FOR THE RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS AND A VOTE FOR JUSTICE TO BE SERVED.

FINALLY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT, I HAVE EITHER SEAN OR MOLLY BROWN, AND THEN AFTER THAT, I HAVE MARY VAN VAN SANT. SO IS THERE A MR. OR MRS. BROWN? GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

SEAN BROWN, MOLLY BROWN, MY WIFE IS PRESENT.

WE'RE AT 2980 BURNEY, WE LIVE JUST NORTH OF THE LOT ONE DESIGNATION ON YOUR DIAGRAM AND WE ALSO OWN THE OTHER LOT NORTH OF THE OLD P.W.

MCCALLUM HOUSE.

SO WE OWN BOTH OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

AND MY COMMENTS, I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR AND REPEAT THE PRIOR COMMENTS, BUT TO ME, THIS IS ABOUT DENSITY.

I THINK THE HARBOR OAKS WERE NOT PART OF HARBOR OAKS, WERE NOT INSIDE THE HARBOR OAKS PLAT. BUT I THINK THAT THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS DENSITY WITH RESPECT TO THE HARBOR OAKS NEIGHBORS THAT ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THIS AND REALLY HAVING A REAL REACTION THAT THIS IS JUST INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF YOU'RE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S JUST OBVIOUS AND PATENT THAT THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE.

IT'S ALL ABOUT DENSITY TO ME.

I SPOKE AT THE P&Z MEETING AND I MENTIONED THAT I'VE BEEN HIKING THIS PROPERTY FOR PRETTY CLOSE TO 30 YEARS.

MY LATE FATHER IN LAW, MOLLY'S FATHER, DAVID GEORGE, THE ARCHITECT, PURCHASED PROPERTY, I BELIEVE, FROM JONES' HEIRS AND BUILT OUR HOUSE AND HAD WORKED WITH MS. MILES, IN FACT, FOR POTENTIAL ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY OVER THE YEARS, PROBABLY BACK IN THE 2000S. AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

I JUST I HAVE A REAL PASSION FOR THE CORPS PROPERTY.

THE P&Z MISTOOK MY COMMENTS TO MEAN THAT I WAS HIKING ON MS. MILES PROPERTY. YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

YOU'LL YOU'LL SCRAPE YOUR LEGS UP PRETTY BAD.

THERE'S NO TRAILS THERE. BUT I HAVE A REAL PASSION FOR THIS CORPS PROPERTY, THE WILDLIFE,

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THE FLORA AND FAUNA, EVERYTHING THAT MR. CHANCELLOR HAS RAISED FOR THE COUNCIL OVER THE YEARS.

AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THAT GEM OF PROPERTY.

THAT IS THAT CORPS PROPERTY.

AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT'S GOING TO AFFECT THAT CORPS PROPERTY.

BUT I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT DENSITY REAL CLOSE AND LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ON THIS AMAZING GEM THAT SOUTHLAKE HAS A HOLD OF RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

MISS VAN ZANT--VAN SANT, I APOLOGIZE.

AND THEN JACK FREDERICKS WILL BE FOLLOWING.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M MARY VAN SANT, I LIVE AT TWENTY NINE SIXTY FIVE BURNEY LANE.

I'M A REGISTERED VOTER.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE EXCEPTION TO WHAT MR. COMBE JUST SAID ABOUT US HIKING ON THAT PROPERTY.

THERE ARE NO TRAILS ON THAT PROPERTY.

IF HE CAN FIND WHERE ANYBODY'S MADE A TRAIL OR HIKED BACK THERE, THEN THAT'S FINE.

BUT I GUARANTEE YOU, NOBODY HIKES THAT PROPERTY.

WE'VE RESPECTED THAT PROPERTY ALL THE WAY ALONG.

WE HAVE OTHER ACCESS TO THE CORPS PROPERTY THROUGH THE HUGHES HOME PLACE, WHICH WAS DESIGNATED. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE MILES' TO UNLOCK THEIR PROPERTY.

YOU WERE ALL AWARE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAN I DO ABOUT ALL OF THIS, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

I AGREE ITS DENSITY.

I'VE ASKED MR. BOYD IF HE WOULD LIMIT THE SIZE OF THE HOUSES IN ANY WAY, AND HE SAID NO.

SO YOU'RE SEEING A 6000 SQUARE FOOT PAD UP THERE, BUT IT COULD VERY WELL BE MUCH LARGER THAN THAT AND ALSO WITH A POOL OR A TENNIS COURT OR WHATEVER.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDABLE DIAGRAM THAT HE HAS FOR THESE LOTS, LOTS ONE AND TWO AND SEVEN AND SIX, THE HOMEOWNERS COULDN'T BUILD THROUGH ALL OF THAT. THERE'S NO PROTECTION FOR THOSE TREES.

IF YOU LOOK AT HIS BUILDABLE PLAN FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, THEY CAN WIPE OUT ALL OF THOSE TREES. ALSO, THE OTHER THING YOU CAN NOTE IS ON THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT YOU SHOWED EARLIER, THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN OF WHAT YOU WANT TO SAVE IS THAT CORPS OF PROPERTIES THAT HE'S PUTTING THERE, THAT SHOW BUILDABLE WHERE THEY CAN TAKE OUT ALL OF THOSE TREES. SO I THINK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DENSITY IS A PROBLEM.

IF HE COULD REDUCE THOSE LOTS SO THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS MIGHT WORK BETTER.

WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. OK, JACK FREDRICKS.

AND THEN FOLLOWING MR. FREDRICKS, SCOTT L.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I JARED'S HELPING ME HERE.

I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES I WANTED TO SHOW YOU.

AND I WANT TO REITERATE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU OUT TO WALK THE PROPERTY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT AT LEAST WALK IT TO THE EDGE OF MY PROPERTY SO YOU GET A SENSE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

JARED, IF YOU CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I AM JACK FREDERICKS AND MY WIFE ROSE IS HERE.

WE'RE AT TWO NINE SIX ZERO BURNEY LANE JUST SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOUSMANS PROPERTY.

WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW HERE WAS AT THE BACK CORNER WHERE MY PROPERTY BUMPS UP AGAINST THE MILES PROPERTY AND THEN THAT POINT WHERE THE QUARRY IS.

THESE PICTURES WERE TAKEN LAST WEEK.

AND WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW WAS THE ELEVATION CHANGE SO THAT AS THAT ROAD IS DEVELOPED, I'M ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS MANAGED CORRECTLY.

THE LARGER SLIDE SHOWS APPROXIMATELY 10 FOOT OF ELEVATION CHANGE FROM THE CORNER UP TO BASICALLY THE CENTER OF MY PROPERTY.

AND THAT IS APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED FEET OR SO, 70 TO 100 FEET ACROSS.

SO THAT BASIN IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.

AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DRAINAGE, THE PROPOSAL IS GOING TO CONCENTRATE ALL THAT WATER INTO THAT SPACE.

AND WHILE IT HAS NOT BEEN ENGINEERED OR AS FAR AS I KNOW, TOUCHED SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME,

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CONSOLIDATING ALL THAT WATER IS GOING TO CREATE ISSUES UNLESS IT'S EFFECTIVELY MANAGED.

THE LAST PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT I GOT OR WAS FROM MR. BOYD IS THERE WILL BE TWO TWO FOOT CULVERTS AND THEN A ROAD ON TOP OF THAT, TO ME, THAT SEEMS INEFFECTIVE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE PICTURE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE LOWER PICTURE IS WHERE I'M STANDING. SO YOU GET A SENSE OF HOW LOW THAT IS.

THE OTHER POINT THAT I WOULD MAKE IS I THINK THE IMPACT ON MY PROPERTY IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE TODAY I HAVE ONE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS BURNEY LANE, NOTHING BESIDE ME AND NOTHING BEHIND ME.

AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT TO PUT A ROAD ON THREE SIDES OF MY PROPERTY I THINK IS NOT EFFECTIVE.

AND I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.

I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO THE NORTH TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

AND WHILE THE ROAD HAS BEEN MOVED APPROXIMATELY 40 FEET AND BENT TO HELP, MARY AND I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S AN EFFECTIVE APPROACH WHERE YOU ARE NOW ISOLATING ME ON THREE SIDES VERSUS WHERE I HAVE TODAY IS ONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, SIR. OK, SCOTT L.

AND THEN I HAD JULIA STANTIC.

IF I PRONOUNCED THAT RIGHT.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SCOTT L.

MY WIFE, MICHELLE, AND I LIVE AT TWO EIGHT SEVEN FIVE BURNEY LANE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY NEW TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN LAKEWOOD, IN EAST DALLAS, A VERY HIGH DENSITY AREA.

AND WHILE WE ABSOLUTELY LOVED LAKEWOOD, LOVED OUR NEIGHBORS, LOVED THE LAKE, LOVED EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRAWING FACTORS TO BRING US OUT TO SOUTHLAKE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE FOUND THE HARBOR DIVISION TO HAVE SOME SPACE AND WE TOURED A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROPERTIES AROUND SOUTHLAKE AND FELL IN LOVE WITH MANY OF THEM.

BUT WHAT REALLY DREW US TO HARBOR OAKS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE OUT THERE WITH EVERYTHING I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF YOU GUYS WOULD COME OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I RECOGNIZE YOUR FACE FROM RUNNING AROUND THERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THREE LITTLE KIDS, SIX YEAR OLD, A FOUR YEAR OLD AND A TWO YEAR OLD. AND WE LOVE WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS.

AND WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF NEIGHBORS THAT LET US FEED CARROTS TO THE HORSES.

I CAN'T EXPLAIN ENOUGH ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WE CHERISH BEING THE NEWEST PEOPLE ON THE BLOCK, BUT WANTING TO PRESERVE THE EXACT REASON WHY WE INVESTED A MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO PLANTING OUR FAMILY THERE AND HOW WE, YOU KNOW, JOKE AROUND HOW WE NEVER HAD A FOREVER HOME. BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE FOUND IT, THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE'VE MADE FRIENDS WITH IMMEDIATELY.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S EXACTLY WHY THEY WANT TO DEVELOP OUT THERE FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT WE FELL IN LOVE WITH THE AREA AND SO COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN BE DRAWN THERE AND SINCERELY HOPE THAT THERE IS A MIDDLE GROUND TO BE FOUND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, GREAT NEIGHBORS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WELCOMED.

BUT THE RESOUNDING THEME YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS DENSITY.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I STAND WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN BURNEY LANE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'D REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT WHAT IS SUCH A WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST KEEP THE VIBE THAT IS AN EQUESTRIAN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AS LITTLE TRAFFIC AND AS MUCH FUN AS WE CAN HAVE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE'VE GROWN TO LOVE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF TRYING TO PROTECT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS A LOW DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD.

GREAT. THANKS AND WELCOME TO SOUTHLAKE.

THANK YOU. MR. STANTIC. AND THEN FOLLOWING, KAY JOHNSON, BE READY PLEASE.

HELLO, I'M JULIA STANTIC, I LIVE AT TWO EIGHT NINE FIVE BURNEY LANE.

I'VE GOT TWO OF THE MAIN ISSUES FOR ME WHEN ADDRESSING COMPATIBILITY WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND TO LOOK AT OUR SUBDIVISION, I DON'T THINK IT'S A FAIR COMPARISON TO LOOK AT THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS OF LOCH MEADOW OR CARMEL BAY AS THAT IS NOT OUR SUBDIVISION OR A FAIR MEASURE OF COMPATIBILITY.

IN ADDITION, I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE WITH THE ONE ACCESS POINT SERVING OUR ALREADY 80 PLUS HOMES WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE EIGHT HOMES REALLY ADDS TO THE TRAFFIC.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL CAN MAYBE WORK WITH STAFF ON AND REALLY LOOKING AT A TRAFFIC STUDY AND OR REQUESTING THAT AND KIND OF HONING IN WHAT EXACTLY THAT NUMBER IS TO HAVE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE FEEL THAT THAT IMPACT IS PRETTY

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SIGNIFICANT TO OUR EXISTING USES.

MAYBE ANOTHER THING TO WORK WITH STAFF ON JUST GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS LOOKING AT THAT ROAD AND THEN TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE SITE DISTANCE BETWEEN THIS PROPOSED NEW ROAD AND THE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS IN THE AREA.

I KNOW THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME UNIT OF MEASUREMENT FOR WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE SAFE DISTANCE FOR HAVING CARS COMING IN AND OUT AND THE INCREASED TRAFFIC AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT COLLISION AND ALL THAT DISTANCE WORK OUT? IS THAT SAFE FOR EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN ADDITION, NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ECOLOGICAL IMPACTS, I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT AS WELL AS THE DRAINAGE ISSUES.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR HEARING US OUT.

GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT, KAY JOHNSON AND THEN AFTER THAT WILL BE CATHY CURTIS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM, IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KAY JOHNSON.

MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE TWENTY NINE FORTY BURNEY LANE.

IT'S BEHIND PROPOSED LOT SIX.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK REGARDING THE OPPOSITION TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN.

OUR HOUSE WAS FOR SALE FOR TWO YEARS PRIOR TO US PURCHASING IT AT THE TIME.

OUR REALTOR, COINCIDENTALLY, WAS DAN COMBE, WHO YOU ALREADY HEARD FROM AND IS NOW REPRESENTING THE MILES PROPERTY.

IN THE PROCESS OF US PURCHASING OUR HOUSE, WE ASKED MR. COMBE ABOUT THE PROPERTY BEHIND US TO CONSIDER IT FOR PURCHASE.

WE WERE TOLD IT WAS NOT FOR SALE AND WITHIN A FEW WEEKS OF US MOVING IN, WE WERE CONTACTED BY MR. COMBE, NOW SUDDENLY REPRESENTING THE MILES PROPERTY REGARDING SELLING OUR HOUSE TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.

I THINK THAT PIECE OF HISTORY IS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY.

WE ARE NOT AGAINST INDIVIDUALS PROPERTY RIGHTS.

AS YOU ALL HAVE HEARD. AS STATED MY HUSBAND AND I, ALONG WITH OTHERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HAVE INQUIRED ABOUT PURCHASING THE PROPERTY OVER THE YEARS.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT HAS BEEN PRICED FOR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND NOT FOR ITS LAND VALUE.

I WOULD LIKE TO STATE CLEARLY THAT WE ARE AGAINST THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, NOT AGAINST MS. MILES AND HER FAMILY'S RIGHT TO SELL THEIR LAND.

THE REASONS I AND SEVENTY SEVEN PERCENT OF OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE THE SAME AS THE REASONS FOR THE VERY SIMILAR PROPOSALS IN 2006 AND 2008, WHICH WERE UNANIMOUSLY DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL.

THE APPLICANT, MR. BOYD, HAS PAINTED A FALSE PICTURE OF COMPROMISES AND WILLINGNESS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. HE'S BEEN UNWILLING TO MAKE ANY COMPROMISE ON THE NUMBER OF LOTS.

DESPITE NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THE ROAD PLACEMENT, HE NEVER MOVED IT UNTIL REQUESTED AT THE P&C MEETING, AND NOW HE ONLY OFFERS A SLIGHT CURVE.

HE OFFERS TO LANDSCAPE MS. THE FREDRICKS. I'M HOPING YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE TRIFLING, NEARLY INSULTING OFFERS WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE IMPACT ON SOMEONE'S HOME.

LOT 10 IS A PLATTED LOT AND HARBOR OAKS SUBDIVISION ZONED SF 1A IT IS BEING PROPOSED TO REZONE THIS LOT INTO A PUD PLACE, AN ENTRANCE ROAD ON THIS LOT THAT LEADS INTO A NEW SUBDIVISION AND CLOSE IT WITH A NEW FENCE WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION WITHOUT EVER REPLANTING.

IF A ROAD WERE A DEDICATED IF THIS ROAD WERE DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY AND IN AN SF 1A ZONE, REPLATTING WOULD BE REQUIRED.

AND THAT'S TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THIS WELL-ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE REZONING OF THIS LOT SEEMINGLY CIRCUMVENTS REPLATTING, BUT ULTIMATELY ENDS IN THE SAME RESULT OF FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING A PLATTED LOT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

HOW CAN WE LET THAT HAPPEN? HOW DO WE PRESERVE THE OTHER LARGE LOTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? THE REASON THIS HAS BEEN DENIED TWO TIMES BEFORE IS NOT BECAUSE WE WERE A BUNCH OF OBSTINATE, UNCOMPROMISING NEIGHBORS.

IT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE IS NO FEASIBLE, ECONOMICALLY VIABLE PLAN TO DEVELOP THAT LAND IN SUCH A WAY THAT PRIORITIZES COMPATIBILITY AND SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE RESPECTING OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS.

I DO YOU FEEL THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THIS PREDICAMENT BY REFUSING TO DISCUSS OPTIONS FOR SALE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CATHY CURTIS.

AND THEN IF DID YOU BRING CUPCAKES? CUPCAKES? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.

I'M CATHY CURTIS, MY HUSBAND, STEVE.

WE LIVE AT 3580 BURNEY LANE, BEEN THERE FOR 38 YEARS.

ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORS, IT HAS BEEN NOTICED THAT OUR SPACIOUS HORSE TRAILS HAVE NOT BEEN MENTIONED OR ON THE MAPS OF THE DEVELOPER FOR COMPATIBILITY.

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REGARDING HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE THE DEVELOPER ANNOUNCED THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS NO PROBLEM WITH IT. THE FIRE MARSHAL TOLD ME HE CANNOT SPEAK EITHER WAY AND THERE IS NO PARTICULAR FIRE CODE THAT STATES OUR UNIQUE LAYOUT FOR IT TO BE THAT CONCISE.

IT IS NOT A COOKIE CUTTER SITUATION TO LAND YOUR THUMB ON WHERE FIRE MARSHAL CAN SAY, EITHER WAY, HEREIN LIES THE RUB, WHERE WE DO LOOK TO YOU, OUR CITY, FOR OUR DECISIONS.

AS OF TODAY AT 4:00 P.M., FIRE MARSHAL SAID HE IS UN OPINIONATED.

THE 2018 INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE STATES SECTION D 107 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENTS OF ONE OR TWO FAMILY DWELLING UNITS EXCEEDS 30 HARBOR OAKS IS 75 SHALL BE PROVIDED WITH TWO SEPARATE AND APPROVED FIRE APPARATUS ACCESS CODES.

NOW LET'S GO TO SOUTHLAKE.

THAT WAS INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODES.

SOUTHLAKE ARTICLE V STREET AND RIGHT OF WAY REQUIREMENTS DOWN TO C ADEQUATE EMERGENCY ACCESS TO ENSURE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO EACH SUBDIVISION THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST TWO PLANNED POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS, EXCEPT THAT CUL DE SACS CAN BE PERMITTED IN CONFORMITY WITH SECTION 5.003.

THE COUNCIL MAY REQUIRE THAT MORE THAN TWO ACCESS POINTS BE CONSTRUCTED IF THE CONFIGURATION NUMBER OF LOTS OR OTHER CONSIDERATION CREATES THE NEED FOR THE ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS.

NOW LET'S GO TO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE FIVE.

STREET AND RIGHT OF WAY TO ENSURE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO EACH SUBDIVISION THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST TWO PLANNED POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS.

LET'S GO TO ZONING SECTION 30 PUD PLANNED UNIT.

DEVELOPMENT PLAN NUMBER ONE, A SCALE DRAWING SHOWING THAT ANY PROPOSED PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STREET AND THE POINT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM EXISTING PUBLIC STREETS ON AN ACCURATE SURVEY OF THE BOUNDARY OF THE TRACT.

IF I MAY, PLEASE.

THIS IS HARBOR OAKS, 75 HOMES ARE IN HERE, SIX CUL DE SACS.

ONE ACCESS POINT, MR. BURNEY BUILT BURNEY LANE BACK IN 1950 SOME, SO THERE'S A LOT HERE, WE'VE ALREADY HAD A FIRE. THEY CAME FROM BACK HERE ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH THE MAZE TO THE ACCESS POINT AND BARELY MADE IT OUT.

HERE WE GO, EIGHT TWO MILLION HOUSES.

NOT THREE OR FOUR.

IT ATTACHES.

ABOUT HERE.

THIS IS FOR THE ONES THAT HAVEN'T COME OUT AND VISITED US.

WE'RE ASKING YOU TO IT ATTACHES HERE AND THIS IS AN OLD EXCUSE ME, AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. WE EVEN HAVE 105 YEAR OLD LADY WHO LIVES RIGHT HERE.

IT ATTACHES HERE WITH A LITTLE ROAD AND THEN HUGS UP AND ABUTS OUR NEIGHBORS WHERE 85 PERCENT OF US ARE IN THE AUTUMN OF OUR YEARS.

THIS SHOULD GIVE YOU A LITTLE VISUAL.

IT'S NOT QUITE ACCURATE AND IT'S NOT AS PRETTY AS I HOPE IT WILL BE.

BUT LET'S LOOK AT TWO POINTS OF ENTRANCE OR LESS LOTS.

A GREAT COMPROMISE WOULD BE WELCOMED.

THANK YOU SO VERY KINDLY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT AND THEN AFTER THAT, GRAHAM JOHNSON.

MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN I'M NUMBER SIX. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO CLARIFY HOW WE WERE TALKED ABOUT IN THE P&Z MEETING THAT WE WERE CONSIDERED ADVERSARIAL AND WE WERE TOLD YOU PEOPLE WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED.

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WE PEOPLE ARE VOTERS, LOVE SOUTHLAKE, AND WE DON'T MEAN TO THROW A KINK IN THIS PLAN. WE JUST CAME HERE TO TELL YOU HOW IT WILL AFFECT US.

AND IF YOU'LL LISTEN TO THAT, WE'RE MIGHTY FINE PEOPLE.

AND SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE'RE ADVERSARIAL.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS WORK.

AND SO WE'RE NOT AGAINST YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM MANY, MANY OTHERS THAT WE'RE NOT AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT I WANT TO SHOW YOU MY VIEWPOINT OF HOW THIS IS GONNA.

HOW COULD IT POSSIBLY WORK? NOW, I WANT YOU TO LOOK WITH ME AT HOUSMANS LOT, WHICH IS ABOUT LOT NUMBER ONE, THAT IS THE ROAD ISSUE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT ROAD ISSUE, OK? IT COMES OUT ON BURNEY LANE WITH THAT CIRCLE DRIVE, AND THAT IS MARY PROPERTY. SHE'S LIVED THERE THIRTY FIVE YEARS OR MORE AND NOBODY HAS COME INTO HER PROPERTY WITH HEADLIGHTS ON A ROAD RIGHT INTO HER PROPERTY LIKE THAT.

AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, WHERE YOU POINT THE LIGHTS SHE'S NOT LIVED LIKE THAT FOR THIRTY FIVE YEARS.

IT'S THERE'S PLENTY OF PROPERTIES AROUND THAT HAVE A ROAD RIGHT INTO FACING THEIR HOUSE, BUT NOT THIS ONE FOR THIRTY FIVE YEARS.

SHE HAD A RESIDENT IN FRONT OF HER AND THEN JACK'S PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF HOUSMAN.

SO MY POINT ABOUT MARY THE REST OF HER TIME THERE ON THAT PROPERTY.

IT WILL ALSO AFFECT HER VALUE OF HER PROPERTY.

PEOPLE ARE IF SHE CHOSE TO SELL IT, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, OH, MAN, THERE, LOOK AT THAT ROAD IS COMING RIGHT INTO THE LIGHTS ARE COMING RIGHT INTO MY PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE.

LET'S TALK NOW ABOUT JACK FREDRICKS PROPERTY, WHICH IS SOUTH OF LOT NUMBER ONE RIGHT THERE EARLY ON IN OUR ZOOM TALKS WITH THE DEVELOPER.

OH, HE HAD THAT ROAD COMING STRAIGHT OUT AND THEN HE OFFERED WE BROUGHT IT UP RIGHT AWAY.

YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS NOT DESIRABLE.

A ROAD RIGHT THERE.

AND SO HE'S. OH, I'LL FIX THAT.

I'LL TAKE IT TO THE NORTH SIDE OF LOT ONE RUNNING ALONG THERE. NOW, THAT WAS NIXED BY WE WERE TOLD BY THE DEVELOPER THAT THE CITY WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT MOVE TO MOVE THE ROAD TO THAT SIDE BECAUSE THAT OPEN LOT THERE WOULD HAVE A ROAD ON THREE SIDES.

SO GUESS WHAT? HE'S I CAN'T DO THAT.

SO THE ROAD CAME BACK AGAINST JACK'S PROPERTY.

AND GUESS WHAT JACK NOW HAS, LIKE HE SAID, A ROAD ON THREE SIDES OF HIS PROPERTY.

SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO WIGGLE THIS ROAD AROUND? IT'S GOING TO AFFECT WHOEVER GETS THE ROAD ON THREE SIDES.

AND THE CITY ALREADY, ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPER, SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

SO NOW HIS COMPROMISE WAS HE PUT A LITTLE BEND IN THE ROAD.

WELL, GUESS WHAT? IT STILL IS A ROAD ON THREE SIDES OF MR. FREDRIK'S. IT STILL IS POINTING INTO MS. HAPPENING, SHE EXPECTED A RESIDENT IN FRONT OF HER.

THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER.

WELL, AS LONG AS SHE WAS THERE.

AND SO WHERE CAN WE WORK ON THIS ROAD AROUND THAT? IT DOESN'T AFFECT SOMEBODY.

IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE FREDRICK'S PROPERTY.

WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO BUY A PROPERTY WITH THREE ROADS AROUND IT JUST LIKE THIS? ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPER.

I DIDN'T HEAR IT. HE SAID IT.

OH, YOU CAN'T PUT IT OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY THEN THE BROWNS WOULD HAVE A ROAD ON THREE SIDES. SO YOU GOT ME HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THIS ROAD WORK? SO THEN FINALLY, I WAS HERE IN 2006.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU LIKE THIRTY MORE SECONDS BECAUSE THE RED LIGHTS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE.

OK, I WILL CUT IT OFF.

OK. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

GRAHAM JOHNSON. HELLO, MY NAME IS GRAHAM JOHNSON, 2940 BURNEY LANE.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, OUR PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY BEHIND PROPOSED LOT SIX,

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THE BROWN AREA.

IN AN OVAL SHAPE, RIGHT THERE IS MY HORSEBACK RIDING AREA, THE STRUCTURE TO THE NORTH IS MY HORSE BARN. I KNOW I'M A SMALL PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE, BUT GIVEN THIS OPPORTUNITY, I'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL AFFECT MY LIVELIHOOD AND IN TURN, THE AMOUNT OF TIME I'M ABLE TO SPEND WITH MY WIFE AND ONE YEAR OLD SON.

MY WIFE WORKS AT CHILDREN'S MEDICAL HOSPITAL IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS AND I MANAGE A WORKING CATTLE RANCH IN NORTH TEXAS.

PART OF WHAT MY JOB IS, IS TO RAISE AND TRAIN REGISTERED QUARTER HORSES FOR USE ON THE RANCH AS WELL AS TO COMPETE IN RODEOS.

MY EMPLOYEES AND I ARE CURRENTLY THE DEFENDING CHAMPIONS AT THE HIGHEST PAYING RANCH RODEO IN THE COUNTRY, THE HOUSTON LIVESTOCK SHOW AND RODEO.

I SAY THIS TO PROVE THAT THIS IS NOT A HOBBY.

THIS IS MY LIVELIHOOD.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE A VERY EQUESTRIAN FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION NEEDED TO CREATE THESE EIGHT LOTS, ALONG WITH THE DENSITY AFTERWARDS WITH THE HOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT, WILL END THIS EQUESTRIAN FRIENDLY LOT THAT I OWN, IN TURN, NOT ALLOWING ME TO TRAIN YOUNG HORSES FROM HOME.

THIS FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGES THE LOT IN WHICH I INVESTED.

AT THE VERY LEAST, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE DEVELOPER MOVE HIS ROAD AT THE END OF HIS PROPOSED CUL DE SAC TO THE WEST, THIS WOULD ALLOW THE LOTS TO BE LARGER, THAT JOINT EXISTING HOUSES IN HARBOR OAKS AND IN TURN HAVE LARGER SETBACKS FROM OUR PROPERTY LINES.

TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT AGAINST PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.

I AM OPPOSED TO ANY DEVELOPMENT IN ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE SAFETY OF MY FAMILY AND MY NEIGHBORS.

YOU ALL HAVE HEARD THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, SO I WILL SHORTEN IT WHERE THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS EXCEEDS 30 SHALL BE PROVIDED WITH TWO SEPARATE AND APPROVED FIRE APPARATUS ACCESS ROADS EXCEPTION ONE WHERE THERE ARE MORE THAN 30 DWELLING UNITS ON A SINGLE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE FIRE APPARATUS ACCESS ROAD AND ALL DWELLING UNITS ARE EQUIPPED THROUGHOUT WITH AN IMPROVED AUTOMATIC SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

THE WORD ALL.

I DO NOT THINK THAT WORD CAN BE MISINTERPRETED BY ANYONE.

I DO NOT HAVE A FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM AS MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS.

IN CONCLUSION, I'M WILLING AND READY TO EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF HARBOR OAKS, AS WELL AS TO UPHOLD OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS, WHICH MR AND MRS HOUSMAN ARE VIOLATING.

WE ARE CURRENTLY POOLING FINANCIAL RESOURCES FROM NEIGHBORS AND POTENTIALLY ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVIST GROUPS TO ASSESS ALL OF THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE, INCLUDING THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE THE MILES PROPERTY OURSELVES AND IN TURN CONVEY IT TO THE CITY FOR WILDLIFE PRESERVATION.

PLEASE HELP US REACH THIS CONCLUSION.

THIS WOULD BE A WIN FOR ALL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OK, THAT WAS THE LAST CARD THAT I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAS DECIDED THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK THAT HADN'T SPOKEN, SPOKEN ALREADY? OK, SEEING NO ONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, CHIEF STARR, CAN WE ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS? SO SEVERAL COMMENTS CAME UP THAT DIRECTLY RELATED TO YOUR DEPARTMENT, BOTH THE FIRE SPRINKLER SITUATION AND ALSO ACCESS, I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL WE HAVE SEVERAL ROADS IN SOUTHLAKE THAT ARE LIKE BURNEY LANE THAT HAVE MANY HOMES OFF OF ONE ACCESS.

BUT ACCESS IS DEFINED DIFFERENTLY BY WHAT TYPE OF ROAD IS COMING INTO THE AREA.

SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT AND IF YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT'S UNSAFE ABOUT THIS SITUATION AND THIS IS OUR FIRE CHIEF.

SO, CHIEF STARR, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES, MA'AM.

WE REALLY THE FIRE CODE PERTAINS TO JUST THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF.

SO THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF WAS OVER 30 HOMES THEN WE WOULD REQUIRE TWO ENTRANCES AND TWO EXITS. THERE IS AN EXCEPTION.

THE EXCEPTION IS, IS TO PROVIDE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN THOSE HOMES, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE THAT IN A SITUATION AS FAR AS THE OPINION THAT GOT TALKED ABOUT WITH FIRE MARSHAL UP IN MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH KELLY ABOUT THIS, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE AN OPINION.

WE ENFORCE A CODE AS THE CODE IS.

SO WE KEEP OUR PERSONAL OPINIONS OUT OF AND WE ENFORCE DIRECTLY WHAT THE CODE SAYS.

AND THAT WAY WE'RE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD, NO MATTER WHO THE DEVELOPMENT IS OR WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS. SO THAT WAS HIS STANCE ON THAT IS WE REALLY DON'T HAVE OPINION.

WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE WHAT THE CODE SAYS IN BLACK AND WHITE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. THEY DO MEET ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS WITH THE SIZE OF THE

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STREET SPRINKLER IN THE HOMES.

THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO ENTRANCES AS PER THE FIRE CODE.

WE'VE REVIEWED IT MANY TIMES.

AND WE JUST APPROVED A DEVELOPMENT NOT EVEN TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS AGO, WHICH HAS A SIMILAR SITUATION.

THERE'S SEVERAL STREETS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, THERE'S THERE'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES.

THERE'S 70 SOME ODD HOMES IN THE SUBDIVISION.

IF YOU WENT BY THAT CODE BACK THEN, THE MAJORITY OF THESE HOMES WOULD NOT BE THERE.

CORRECT. RIGHT.

OK, ANY QUESTIONS OF CHIEF WHILE HE'S.

MAYOR, JUST REAL QUICKLY, CHIEF, THERE'S ALSO SOME CONCERN ABOUT THERE BEING A SINGLE WATER LINE GOING INTO THE AREA.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFICALLY, NOT JUST ABOUT WATER PRESSURE FOR DRINKING USES, BUT FOR SPRINKLERS AND FIRE PREVENTION? YES, SIR, I WILL. DIRECTOR COHAN IS RIGHT HERE BESIDE ME.

HE WILL ADDRESS THOSE WATER ISSUE.

SORRY I DIDN'T SEE HIM BACK THERE.

HE'S HIDING FROM US.

THANKS CHIEF.

IN 2015, WE HAD ACTUALLY HAD A WATER STUDY DONE THAT ACTUALLY EVALUATED THE FIREFIGHTING CAPABILITIES WITH PRESSURE AND FLOW RATE.

AND AT THAT TIME, THERE WEREN'T ANY CONCERNS.

WE TALKED TO OUR WATER SUPERVISOR AND THERE'S NO CONCERNS THERE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE IF WE LOOK AT OUR PEAK HOUR USE AND MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY IN THE STORAGE THAT EXCEEDS THE DEMAND RIGHT NOW.

SO FROM THE WATERSIDE.

SO WE DON'T SEE ANY IMPACTS OR PROBLEMS WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WITH THAT BEFORE YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF DIRECTOR COHEN? I HAVE A COUPLE. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD ON BURNEY AND THEN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO DRAINAGE CULVERTS VERSUS CURBS? AND YES, OR SO WE DON'T USUALLY DICTATE THE METHOD OF DRAINAGE.

THE MEANS THE METHODS ARE UP TO THE DEVELOPER AND HIS DESIGN OR HER DESIGN ENGINEER.

SO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE OVERALL CODE. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REFERENCE TO THE TWO BY TWO BOXES UNDERNEATH THE ROAD.

BUT IN ESSENCE, WE'LL LOOK AT IT FOR MEETING COMPLIANCE AND STANDARDS FOR CITY AS WELL AS DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS. WE USE THE FORT WORTH BUT BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE OF RECORD AND THE ENGINEER OF RECORD IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE TO MAKING TO MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER FLOW IS COMING DOWN IS ADEQUATELY CAPTURED AND RELEASED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS WATER CODE.

SO THAT'S UP TO THE DESIGN ENGINEER TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT WERE VOICED HERE ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS PART OF HIS PROFESSIONAL ETHICS.

THANK YOU. CAN I JUST INTERJECT.

I APOLOGIZE, COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE FOLLOWED IN EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE APPROVED.

WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AT LENGTH WHEN WE APPROVED HAWK WOOD ABOUT A YEAR AGO BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DRAINAGE.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ENGINEER PUTS HIS NAME ON THAT DOCUMENT AND HE'S CERTIFIED AND HIRED FOR THAT REASON SO THAT WE KNOW THAT IF ANYTHING DOESN'T WORK THE WAY HE SAYS IT'S GOING TO WORK, THAT COMES BACK ON HIM.

YES, MA'AM. AND THERE'S THE MISNOMER.

WE DO NOT APPROVE THE DRAWINGS.

WE RELEASE THEM FOR CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A BIG DIFFERENCE.

YES. GOOD GO AHEAD. ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.

ONE OF THE CITIZENS HAD SOME CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO AN EQUESTRIAN TRAIL THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY OWNS THE LAND THERE AS IT RELATES TO THE LIFT STATION.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT LIFT STATION'S VIABILITY GOING FORWARD? WE'VE OBVIOUSLY PUT SOME LIFT STATIONS TO BED, AND THAT ONE LOOKS LIKE IT'S STILL FAIRLY NEW.

THE YES, SIR. YES, SIR. RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO TAKE IT OFFLINE.

IT'S PART OF OUR INVENTORY.

AND RIGHT NOW, THROUGH OUR ANY TYPE OF MASTER PLAN WE HAVE IS TO KEEP IT OPERATIONAL AND IN SERVICE. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, SIR. SIR.

DIRECTOR COHAN.

ARE BAR DITCHES IS STILL AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION TO DRAINAGE UNDER THE CODES.

THEY ARE.

THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IS THAT ONCE IT BECOMES A MAINTENANCE ISSUE, THEN THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS BECOMING A PROBLEM.

SO WE WOULD THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION.

BUT WE WOULD PREFER TO GO WITH WITH I TAKE TO SAY, MORE MODERN CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES.

BUT THAT'S THE DIFFICULTY WE FIND WITH BAR DITCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO. YEAH, WELL, SO HOW DOES THE MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS KIND OF INTERSECT WITH THE IDEA OF THIS PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT VERSUS PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY? WELL, THE PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY WITHIN THE CCR, IF IT SOUNDS LIKE THE HOA WOULD BE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE VERSUS A PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY WHERE THE CITY WOULD ULTIMATELY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IT AND OPERATING IT, SOME ELEMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE DO STATE THAT IF IT REQUIRES HEAVY EQUIPMENT, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE CITY WOULD

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HAVE TO COME IN. SO THERE IS SOME RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE MAY UNDERTAKE WITH THAT TYPE OF DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE.

EVEN ON A PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT.

AT TIMES IF IT COMES TO THAT, WHERE IF WE HAVE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEING COMPROMISED, IT COULD BE COMPROMISED.

WE HAVE GONE IN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S APPROVAL AND AGREEMENT TO SAY WE'RE GOING IN TO PROTECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE COULD DO THAT.

THAT'S AN EXCEPTION RATHER THAN THE RULE.

YES, SIR.

DO WE HAVE ANY BAR DITCHES AROUND TOWN ON PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENTS OR AWAY FROM PUBLIC RIGHT A WAYS? WE DO.

YES, SIR. WE DO.

WHERE AT IF YOU KNOW AT THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.

I'M QUIZZING YOU. YOU ARE.

I CAN'T THINK OF IT. I KNOW THAT WE'VE I'M SURE WE'VE GOT SOME I CAN GET BACK TO ON THAT, SIR. THAT'S OK. BUT BUT IT DOES EXIST.

YES, SIR. OK. THEY DO.

THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE DEVELOPER NEXT OR DO YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF DIRECTOR BAKER OR MR. POTTS, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S STILL SPEAKING ON THIS, WHOEVER.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS RELATED TO SEWAGE ON THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AND AS IT RELATES TO OUR JURISDICTION VERSUS COUNTY? SURE. IN JAROD'S PRESENTATION, HE DID POINT OUT VARIOUS DENSITIES.

AND WHEN YOU TOOK OUT THE FLOWAGE EASEMENT, THERE ARE STILL GREATER THAN ONE ACRE OF USABLE LAND. WE CONTRACT WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THROUGH TARRANT COUNTY.

TARRANT COUNTY HAS PROVIDED A LETTER IN YOUR PACKET THAT THE THAT THE THEY BELIEVE THAT THE ONSITE SEWAGE FACILITIES WOULD WORK.

AND SO THEY WILL INSPECT AND REGULATE THOSE FACILITIES.

AND SO IT IS THAT WITHIN THE COUNTY'S JURISDICTION, NOT THE CITIES.

THANK YOU. DIRECTOR BAKER, HAVE YOU ASKED FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY YET OR HAVE WE RECEIVED ONE . WHEN WE GET THE APPLICATION WE USUALLY DEFER TO THE TRAFFIC MANAGER.

I CAN TELL YOU IN A CASE FOR THIS NUMBER OF LOTS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ITE MANUAL, TYPICALLY A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME GENERATES 10 TRIPS PER DAY.

WHEN YOU WHEN A TRIP IS IF YOU LAY A HOSE LIKE A GARDEN HOSE ACROSS THE STREET WHEN IT HIT THAT HOSE ACROSS, THAT'S ONE TRIP.

WHEN IT COMES BACK, IT'S ANOTHER TRIP.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT THIS SIZE BASICALLY 10 TRIPS PER DAY, OVER EIGHT HOMES AS 80, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

BUT THE NUMBER IS RIGHT AROUND 10 IN TERMS OF THE IT'S A 30 MILE AN HOUR, BURNEY IS A 30 MILE AN HOUR ROADWAY.

MOST OF THE TRAFFIC DURING PEAK WOULD BE MUCH LESS THAN 80 TRIPS.

SO IF YOU TAKE THE PEAK, WHICH IS THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON, THAT NUMBER DROPS DOWN CONSIDERABLY. AND I NOTICE THERE WAS A SIGHT DISTANCE, A QUESTION RAISED BY ONE CITIZENS, THE DISTANCE FROM THAT DRIVE COMING IN AT BURNEY, WHERE BURNEY TAKES A RIGHT BACK TO THE EAST, IS ABOUT 300 FEET AND GIVEN A 30 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT OR EVEN HIGHER.

THAT'S GENERALLY PLENTY OF SIGHT DISTANCE TO THE NORTH, GIVEN THE VOLUME ON THAT ROADWAY.

SO THE THE TRAFFIC MANAGER FELT, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY OUT AND THAT PROBABLY ABOUT 95 PERCENT OF THE TRIPS WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH, THAT THE WHAT A TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD BASICALLY TELL YOU THAT.

AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE MANUAL AND BREAK DOWN THE PEAK TIMES, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, IN THE STAFF REPORT ON WHAT THAT VOLUME ADD TO BURNEY WOULD BE DURING THOSE MORNING AND EVENING PEAKS. ALL RIGHT, I GUESS ONE LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, KEN, DOES THIS PROPOSAL INCLUDE STREET LIGHTS.

IT WAS DISCUSSED, BUT THEY DID PROVIDE A REGULATION.

AND AS DIRECTOR COHEN, WE'VE MENTIONED THAT WE CAN WAIVE THOSE THAT REQUIREMENT.

SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT A IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS AND YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT CONDITION OF THOSE STREET LIGHTS WOULD BE PROVIDED AND THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE ZONING AND DIRECTOR COHAN COULD WAIVE THAT IS PART OF THE ORDINANCE.

AND SO AS PRESENTED IT, IT DOES NOT HAVE THEM.

OK, PERFECT, THANK YOU.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF, IF NOT THE DEVELOPER.

CAN THE DEVELOPER? OH, I'M SORRY, YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.

OK, PERFECT. IF YOU'LL COME DOWN, SIR.

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YOU GUYS ARE SO FAR AWAY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I'M USED TO BEING RIGHT HERE.

YEAH, YES, COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.

THE THEME WAS DENSITY AND COMPATIBILITY.

YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO ATTORNEY TAYLOR, THE COMPATIBILITY, THAT'S SOMETHING, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF CONTROL OVER.

NO. DENSITY. I THINK I WROTE THAT DOWN SIX OR SEVEN TIMES.

IS THERE ANY LEEWAY FOR A NUMBER OF HOMES? NO, SIR. IT'S NOT JUST FROM THE ECONOMICS OF THE PROJECT.

IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT LOSING A LOT WOULD DO.

WE ALREADY COMPLY WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT POINT SIX, SIX, I BELIEVE, UNITS TO THE ACRE, WHICH IS WELL BELOW THE ONE UNIT TO THE ACRE THRESHOLD FOR LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY.

SO. NO, SIR, I WOULDN'T BE PREPARED TO EVEN ECONOMICALLY TO LOSE A LOT.

IF I COULD. YOU KNOW, HERE'S ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO SAY IS WHEN WE FIRST APPROACHED STAFF WITH THIS PROJECT AND BROUGHT IT IN, WE CONSIDERED JUST GOING STRAIGHT, SINGLE FAMILY SF 1A ZONING.

IF WE DID THAT, WE'D BE ABLE TO GET 10 OR 11 LOTS ON THIS PROPERTY.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN UP THREE LOTS BY COMING WITH A PUD.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO WASTE ANYONE'S TIME.

WE WANTED TO DO THIS THING THE RIGHT WAY.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN UP THOSE LOTS.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, DISAGREEMENT WITH MYSELF AND THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT WHAT DENSITY THIS IS.

BUT WE COMPLY WITH THE SF 1A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS COMPATIBLE.

IS THERE NO POTENTIAL FOR MOVING.

ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN WITH THE HORSE AND I LOVE HORSES SO AND I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE NOISE OF THE ELEMENTS SURROUNDING THAT.

ANY LEEWAY WITH REGARD TO YES, SIR. YOU BET.

WE'LL CONSIDER THAT MOVING THE CUL DE SAC A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE WEST IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, INCREASE THE SIZE OF LOTS, SIX AND SEVEN TO ACCOMMODATE THAT CONCERN.

WE'D CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THE CONCERNS WE HAVE IS THE FIVE SEVENTY TWO THERE TO THE WEST.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF THAT SQUEEZES THOSE LOTS DOWN TO MAKE THEM NOT COMPATIBLE.

BUT WE CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT.

YES, SIR. YEAH.

IF YOU TAKE A DRIVE UP NORTH WHITE CHAPEL TO SHOWTIME FARMS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FINEST COMPETITIVE HORSEBACK RIDING FARMS IN WELL IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY, PROBABLY MOST OF THE STATE, AND THERE ARE SIX FIGURE HORSES UP THERE.

SO I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY VERY HIGH STRUNG.

AND SOMEONE BUILT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE APPROVED ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO THAT BACKS RIGHT UP TO THAT PROPERTY. SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE LEARNED BY TAKING A LOOK AT THAT, BECAUSE DALE SAID THAT HER HORSES HAVE BEEN FINE.

THEY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE CLIENT HORSES.

YES MA'AM YOU BET. YEAH, THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ALL RESIDENTS IN, YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT TO SEE, THERE HAS TO BE A WAY FOR US, FOR YOU TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME OF THAT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON ALREADY.

AND I LOVE THIS PART OF THE CITY.

I KIND OF GOT FAMILIAR WITH IT WHEN I WAS ON ZBA.

AND I JUST LOVE DOING AERIAL VIEWS AND SEEING ALL THE THE GIANT LOTS AND THIS OPEN SPACE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD TONIGHT THAT WAS REALLY ENCOURAGING.

THIS HAS A TENDENCY TO BRING OUT A LOT OF VITRIOL.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHILE I KEPT HEARING DENSITY AND IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE, I DID HEAR A WILLINGNESS TO MEET HALFWAY OR WORK TOGETHER.

SO I THINK THAT'S ENCOURAGING.

THANK YOU. SO I HOPE THAT CONTINUES.

IF, HOWEVER THIS GOES, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT SPIRIT IN THE CITY.

YES, SIR. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

YOU KNOW, I'VE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AT LENGTH, I'VE ADJUSTED OUR PLAN TO DO THAT AS WELL. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE RESISTANT TO CHANGE.

I GET THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

WELL IT'S JUST A VERY PECULIAR IS IT PECULIAR IN THAT SOMEONE IS SELLING AN EXISTING HOME AND THEN TURNING THAT HOME INTO ACCESS? NOW, THAT BEING SAID, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY.

MR. TAYLOR WAS CLEAR ON THAT.

AND WE CANNOT PREVENT HIM FROM ACCESSING AND THE DEEDS AND RESTRICTIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT COME UNDER OUR PURVIEW.

THAT BEING SAID, THAT THE SELLER ALSO HAS A ROLE IN THIS, TOO.

AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOUR DEVELOPER AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND THAT SOMETIMES MEANS ADJUSTING THE PRICE SO THAT THE LAND CAN BE DEVELOPED.

AND NO ONE, I DON'T THINK I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE IN COUNCIL.

I HEARD SOMEONE GET UP AT PNZ AND SAY THIS SHOULD BE TWO LOTS.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE THINK ON COUNCIL.

THERE'S AN OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY.

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WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO EASE THE IMPACT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

AND SOMETIMES THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN EASE THE IMPACT IS BY NEGOTIATING A BETTER PRICE SO THAT YOU CAN THEN HAVE A LESS LOTS, ONE LOT TWO LOT, WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT THE FAMILY THAT'S SELLING UNDERSTANDS THAT, AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT, I WOULD HAVE BEEN HOPEFUL THAT THEY WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE TOLD THEM IF THEY WANT TO GET THEIR PROPERTY DEVELOPED.

THIS IS PROBABLY AND I HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE BRING UP THE 2006 VOTE AND THE 2008 VOTE.

I REMEMBER I WAS THERE AND I VOTED AND THEY WERE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, ESPECIALLY THE SECOND ONE.

I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN REFERRED TO MR. GEORGE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THE PROPERTY WITH MR. GEORGE MANY YEARS AGO AND I SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT ONE GENTLEMAN DOESN'T HAVE ROADS SURROUNDING HIS PROPERTY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY THERE'S A PIECE OF EMPTY PROPERTY BEHIND YOUR, I MEAN, MY NEIGHBORHOOD BACKS UP TO THE OLD RIGHT. WE ALL REMEMBER THAT.

AND WHEN THEY DEVELOPED IT NOW IT'S, WHAT, 80, NOW 100, AT LEAST 100 HOMES.

AND NOBODY WANTED THAT TO HAPPEN.

BUT YOU DON'T YOU AT LEAST BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY KIND OF ANTICIPATING THAT WHAT'S NEXT TO YOU IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE WHAT'S NEXT TO YOU.

AND SO I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GIVING YOU ACCESS TO GET YOU BACK TO THAT PROPERTY.

I THINK THE SELLER OF THE LAND HAS TO WORK WITH US, BECAUSE WHILE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DENY THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP THIS, WE DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY HOW MANY LOTS WE WILL ALLOW ON THIS PROPERTY, IRREGARDLESS OF HOW MANY ACRES YOU'RE TELLING US THE PROPERTY IS.

SO I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO TAKE A RUN, UNLESS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE SELLER HAS NO INTEREST IN NEGOTIATING AT ALL TO MAKE THIS WORKABLE FOR YOU.

I WON'T SPEAK FOR THE SELLER, BUT I CERTAINLY RELAY YOUR CONCERNS AND WE WILL SEE MEANT IT. YES MA'AM. YOU BET. I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME BACK AND FORTH THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT YOU'RE SAVING, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE CORE PROPERTY AND YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP AS MUCH OF THE RURAL FEEL WITHOUT HAVING A BIG SIGN ANNOUNCING THAT YOU'RE ENTERING THE PROPERTY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF REALLY NICE TOUCHES DOING WITH THE STREETLIGHTS.

THAT'S ALL THAT GIVES THEM THE SAME LOOK AND FEEL THAT'S IN THAT AREA.

NOW, I KNOW THAT A HOUSE THAT YOU KNOW, AND YOU, MY MOM AND DAD HAVE BEEN HERE FOR, GOSH, 40 YEARS.

SO THEIR HOUSE IS BUILT IN 1984 OR SOMETHING I THINK 1983.

OK, AND MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1997.

DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE MY MOM AND DAD'S HOUSE, BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE RIGHT ACROSS.

SO I KNOW THINGS CHANGE AND NO ONE'S SAYING YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE SAME STYLE OF HOUSE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE MEAN IN OUR LONG TERM PLANNING.

BUT THE LESS LOTS THE LESS IMPACT.

SO YEAH.

YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. SO YEAH.

THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT AND COUNCILMAN SMITH'S POINT ABOUT THE ROAD.

MR. BOYD, I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON THE ROAD, MAYBE TRYING TO PULL THAT CUL DE SAC A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEST.

AND MR. FREDRICKS BROUGHT UP A POINT ABOUT HIS PROPERTY BEING WRAPPED WITH THAT ROAD.

I KNOW YOU BENT IT TO THE NORTH A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE SEE IF HE CAN WORK ON THAT.

I KNOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH SETBACK ISSUES, BUT.

SURE. YES, SIR. YES.

SEE IF YOU CAN TWEAK IT AND RUN IT BY KEN AND SO HE CAN DISTRIBUTE IT BEFORE SECOND READING JUST SO WE CAN SEE SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

DEFINITELY.

YOU MENTIONED TRANSITIONING FROM A BAR DITCH TO CURB AND GUTTER.

WHERE WERE YOU ANTICIPATING THAT WOULD TRANSITION? IT WOULD BE THERE OFF A BURNEY LANE.

AS YOU GO TO THE WEST, OFF OF BURNEY LANE, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE A MORE COMPATIBLE FEEL WITH BAR DITCHES AS YOU GO TO THE WEST AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, A HUNDRED FEET OR SO IN AS YOU GO TO THE WEST, TRANSITION TO A CURB AND GUTTER, AS YOU GO TO THE WEST YEAH, YOU BET. I WILL SAY ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID CURB AND GUTTER IS TO SAVE TREES.

IF YOU DO A BORROW DITCH AND YOU DO A 40 FOOT RIDE AWAY, INEVITABLY YOU'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING MORE TREES.

YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL WITH A 40 FOOT RIGHT AWAY IN THE TWENTY FIVE FOOT ROAD WITH A CURB AND GUTTER WAS TO SAVE TREES.

SO, I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO KNOCK DOWN SOME MORE TREES AND DO CURB AND GUTTER AND DO BORROW DITCHES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

WELL, LET'S JUST LOOK AT THAT. WHY DON'T YOU SHOW US BOTH OPTIONS NEXT TIME? YOU BET. SO WE CAN SEE I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE HAVING THAT BAR DITCH COMING WEST OFF OF BURNEY MIGHT BE AN EASIER TRANSITION.

SURE. AND YOU'RE GOOD LOSING THE STREET LIGHTS.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, IN FACT, I PUT OUT MR. LAND THERE AS PART OF THE NEIGHBOR.

YOU KNOW, I PUT THE CALL OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

DO YOU WANT SIDEWALKS, DO YOU WANT STREET LIGHTS.

AND WE'RE COMPLYING WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBOR.

WE GOT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

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NO STREET LIGHTS, NO SIDEWALKS.

THAT'S WHY WE TOOK THEM OUT OF OUR PROPOSAL.

OK, EXCELLENT. SO LAST QUESTION.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE ACCESS, I GUESS, BETWEEN LOTS ONE AND TWO? YOU TALKED ABOUT KIND OF PEDESTRIAN EQUESTRIAN ACCESS.

WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WELL, BASICALLY, WHAT IS WE WILL LEAVE THAT OPEN AS YOU TRANSITION FROM THE EAST TO WEST, GOING THROUGH THAT ACCESS, IT'S A NATURAL DRAINAGE AREA NOW, AND IT TRANSITIONS NICELY INTO THE CORE AS YOU GO A LITTLE FURTHER WEST, KIND OUT TO THE PEAK OF OUR WESTERNMOST PEAK THERE.

THERE'S A NICE TRAIL. AND I THINK YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAYBE SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT TRAIL ON THE AERIAL PHOTO THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT OPEN. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FENCE IT.

WE'RE GOING TO RESTRICT OUR SET BACK.

SO THERE'S NO IMPEDIMENT TO ANY PEDESTRIAN OR HORSE TRAFFIC.

CERTAINLY, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE RIDE THEIR HORSES DOWN OUR ACCESS EASEMENT AND TRANSITION INTO THE CORE PROPERTY.

SO WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR ACCESS TO OUR NEIGHBORS.

OK, OK, THANKS.

I WOULD ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER HUFFMAN'S COMMENTS AS IT RELATES TO LOOKING AT A FEW OPTIONS.

I MEAN, TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE A PUD IN FRONT OF US, WE GET REAL GRANULAR ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEE, WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE.

AND AS WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION DURING THE CORRIDOR PLANNING COMMITTEE, WE HAD A STRONG FEELING THAT IF IT WERE EVER TO GET THIS FAR, THAT YOUR NEIGHBORS WOULD WANT TO SEE IT LOOK AS SIMILAR AS WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE ON BURNEY.

AND SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'VE GONE TO THAT.

I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR SHOULD THIS CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND IT BASICALLY LOOKING AS CLEAN OF A TRANSITION FROM BURNEY BACK ON TO THAT CUL DE SAC AS POSSIBLE.

SO A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS AS TO POTENTIALLY PUSHING THAT CUL DE SAC BACK TO THE WEST A LITTLE BIT OF POSSIBLE, I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU BROUGHT THE ENTRY OR THAT EASEMENT IN FROM THE NORTH PART OF THAT FIRST LOT UP TOP.

SO IT KIND OF DIVIDES BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS THERE.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE AN APPROPRIATE TYPE OF TRANSITION.

BUT I'M NOT AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT WHAT THE SETBACKS LOOK LIKE.

SURE. WHATEVER YOU CAN DO THERE, I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL.

THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION, CERTAINLY VERY SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT LIVE THERE I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THAT AREA AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE VALUE THAT IT HAS TO OFFER.

AND SO WE'RE ALL, I THINK, VERY SENSITIVE TO THE VALUE OF THE COMMUNITY ON THE NORTH SIDE HERE AND AND CERTAINLY ARE SENSITIVE TO WANTING TO PRESERVE AS MUCH OF IT AS POSSIBLE.

AND I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU STRONGLY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS. AND I THINK AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, COMING UP WITH AS MANY OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE FOR US TO LOOK AT AT SECOND READING CERTAINLY GIVES ALL OF US MORE OPTIONS TO CONSIDER AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP HERE AND TAKING THESE SHOTS, BECAUSE THIS IS TOUGH.

IT'S A TOUGH THING TO GET THROUGH.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAD.

YOU BET. THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH. THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE ABOUT MOVING THAT ACCESS ROAD OFF OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE LOT ONTO MORE UP TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LOT.

BUT THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK FROM STAFF, WERE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

WELL, I THINK THERE'S SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THAT.

I SAID IT WAS A BAD PLANNING DECISION.

I NECESSARILY DIDN'T THROW STAFF UNDER THE BUS ON THAT.

I THINK AS WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, MOVING THAT ROAD TO THE NORTH, I MEAN, THE ON MOLLY'S LOT THERE, IT'S A ONE ACRE LOT, RIGHT AT ONE ACRE.

AND IF WE MOVE THAT ROAD TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT HARBOR OF THE HOUSMANS LOT, IT ESSENTIALLY HAS A ROAD ACCESS THAT GOES OFF TO THE NORTHWEST THERE.

IT WOULD HAVE TO DRIVEWAYS BRACKETING THAT SMALLER ONE ACRE LOT.

YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE INSTEAD OF GOING STRAIGHT TO THE SOUTH TO BEND THE ROAD A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE NORTH TO GET IT OFF OF OUR PROPERTY LINE WITH MR. FREDRICKS. IT'S JUST A POOR PLAN, IS WHAT IT WOULD BE TO PUT THAT ROAD TO THE NORTH.

UNLESS YOU LOST A LOT THERE AND THEN IT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

JUST SAYING.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW I VOTED ON THIS LAND BEFORE AND IT LOOKED DIFFERENT.

THIS IS THE MOST EFFORT THAT'S EVER BEEN PUT INTO IT.

WELL, I'LL GIVE CREDIT TO CURTIS YOUNG OUR PLANNER HE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. IT'S REALLY, BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THAT ACCESS THAT WAS GRANTED BY A HOMEOWNER SELLING THEIR LOT, IT BECOMES VERY EMOTIONAL FOR EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED THAT, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO WORK WITH THE SELLERS, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING, YOU'RE WORKING WITHIN GUIDELINES THAT ARE SET BY DOLLARS AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, I DO CHUCKLE A LITTLE WHEN PEOPLE SELL REALLY DIFFICULT PIECES OF PROPERTY FOR THE GOING RATE, BECAUSE IT'S THERE'S A REASON THIS PROPERTY HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED AND MAYBE IT DOESN'T GET TO SELL FOR THE GOING RATE, UNFORTUNATELY.

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YES MA'AM.

BOYD, I DID HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT REAL QUICKLY.

CLEARLY, THERE ARE SOME TOPOGRAPHY CHALLENGES HERE AND RECOGNIZING THAT EVERYTHING STILL WANTS TO EVENTUALLY DRAIN TO THE CREEK, THE SPILLWAY AND EVENTUALLY TO THE LAKE.

IF YOU COULD BRING YOUR DRAINAGE ENGINEER IN SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AROUND THAT TOPIC, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO SHEDDING THE WATER FROM THESE LOTS, AS THERE POTENTIALLY BEING DEVELOPED AND THEN HOW IT RUNS AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST.

YOU BET. AND EVEN WHEREVER WE LAND ON ON AN ENTRYWAY, WHAT THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S MEANINGFUL TOPO.

AND I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS OPENLY AS WE CAN POSSIBLY ADDRESS IT.

CERTAINLY. THANK YOU.

YOU BET. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER MCCASKILL, I KNOW WE'VE GIVEN YOU A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 17TH, POSSIBLY OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

AND I THINK WE WANT TO SEE ALL THOSE OPTIONS THAT WILL SERVE YOU WELL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MY COMMENTS ARE WHEN I SAW THIS AT QUARTER COMMITTEE WAS THE EIGHT LOTS ON 13 ACRES THAT FITS OUR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE PLAN.

BUT SEEING THE PRESENTATION, I THINK, FOR MORE HOMEWORK OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

AND THIS MAY HAVE BEEN WHAT THE MAYOR WAS GETTING TO.

I'D LIKE TO SEE A PROPOSAL OR A RENDERING WITHOUT LOT SEVEN.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO ASK US TO VOTE ON IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AGAIN, GOING WITH MORE OPTIONS AGAIN I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO PLAY INTO MOVING THE CUL DE SAC TO THE LEFT AND PERHAPS UP TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE WEST AND TO THE TOP LEFT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER PROPOSAL WITH DELETING LOT SEVEN AGAIN I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU HAVE TO HAVE US VOTE ON IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW THAT STAFF IS HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU.

THEY'VE BEEN GREAT AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ANSWER FOR YOU PLEASE LET US KNOW.

COUNCIL MEMBER ARCHER, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? NO I THINK I'M GOOD.

GOOD. OK, GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT. OK, ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONVERSATIONS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M SORRY.

I WAS GOING TO SAY NO, I'M SORRY.

IT'S PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I FORGOT.

WE ALREADY DID. BEEN THERE DONE THAT.

GO AHEAD. WE NEED A MOTION.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 7D ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-773.

CASE NUMBER ZA20-0049.

FIRST READING, ZONING CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE CONSERVATION LOCATED AT 2970 BURNEY LANE AND THREE ONE EIGHT FIVE SOUTHLAKE PARK DRIVE IN SOUTH TEXAS, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 13TH 2020 AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER THREE DATED OCTOBER 13TH 2020.

NOTING THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS FOR EIGHT RESIDENTIAL LOTS ON APPROXIMATELY THIRTEEN POINT ONE ACRES, NOTING THAT THE ACCESS EASEMENT AND STREET ARE PROPOSED TO BE NON GATED OPEN TO PUBLIC TRAFFIC.

BUT PRIVATELY, MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, NOTING ALSO THAT NO STREETLIGHTS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED OR WILL BE ALLOWED AS PART OF THIS APPROVAL, NOTING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO PRESENT A DRAWING WITH MOVING THE CUL DE SAC TO THE WEST SO THAT LOTS, SIX AND SEVEN COULD BE LARGER AND ALSO MOVING THAT CUL DE SAC AWAY FROM THE EXISTING HOME BY THE ENTRANCE THAT WOULD BE CITED BY STREET ON THREE SIDES.

ALSO NOTING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO PRESENT AT SECOND READING SLIDES DEPICTING THE BAR DITCH VERSUS A CURB AND GUTTER OPTION.

ALSO NOTING FOR SECOND READING THE APPLICANTS WILLINGNESS TO PROVIDE AN ENTRANCE ROAD FURTHER TO THE NORTH ON THE HOUSMANS LOT, ALSO NOTING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS FOR SECOND READING TO HAVE THE DRAINAGE ENGINEER PRESENT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

I THINK THAT'S IT. GREAT.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. OK, THAT PASSES ON FIRST READING SIX ZERO, SO WE'LL SEE THAT ITEM ON WAS THAT NOVEMBER 17TH AND WE WILL HAVE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT, TOO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM 6A READING ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR GMI.

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THE PLAN. DO WE JUST CONTINUE TO YEAH, THE ONLY CHANGE TO YOUR PLAN FROM YOUR FIRST READING WAS THE ELIMINATION OF THE FOUR PARKING LOTS NEAR CROOKED LANE.

SO THE APPLICANT COMPLIED WITH YOUR FIRST READING REQUIREMENTS.

I'LL FOREGO THE PRESENTATION UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

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GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 6A.

SEEING NO ONE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THERE A MOTION? YES.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX, A ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-771 CASE NUMBER ZA20-0040 SECOND READING, ZONING, CHANGE AND SIGHT CONCEPT PLAN FOR GMI LOCATED AT 2450 CROOKED LANE, SOUTHLAKE, TEXAS, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 13TH 2020 AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER FOUR DATED SEPTEMBER 8TH 2020.

NOTING THAT WE'RE GRANTING THE VARIANCE REQUESTS FIRST AS TO DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER 634, WHICH REQUIRES THAT DRIVEWAYS MAINTAIN A MINIMUM TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOOT SPACING BETWEEN DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES.

DRIVEWAY SPACING BETWEEN DRIVEWAYS WILL BE REDUCED TO A MINIMUM OF ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY THREE FEET ALONG NOLEN DRIVE.

SECOND DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER SIX THREE FOUR REQUIRES THAT DRIVEWAYS MAINTAIN A MINIMUM TWO HUNDRED FOOT SPACING BETWEEN DRIVEWAYS AND INTERSECTIONS.

DRIVEWAY SPACING BETWEEN INTERSECTIONS WILL BE REDUCED TO A MINIMUM OF ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE FEET SPACING ALONG NOLEN DRIVE FROM CROOKED LANE AND THIRD DRIVEWAY ORDINANCE NUMBER SIX THREE FOUR REQUIRES A MINIMUM DRIVEWAY STACKING OF ONE HUNDRED FEET.

STACKING FOR THE DRIVEWAY TO NOLEN DRIVE WILL BE REDUCED TO FIFTY NINE POINT SEVEN FEET AND NOTING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS REMOVED THE FOUR PARKING SPACES AS NOTED AT OUR PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

GREAT. IS THERE A SECOND. SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. OK, AND THAT ITEM PASSES SIX ZERO.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPOINTING SARA JANE DEL CARMEN AS AN ASSOCIATE JUDGE.

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THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

SEEING NO ONE, IS THERE A MOTION? YES MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6 B, ORDINANCE NUMBER ONE, TWO, THREE, SIX. SECOND READING, APPOINTING SARA JANE DEL CARMEN AS AN ASSOCIATE JUDGE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. OK, THAT ITEM PASSES SIX ZERO.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA, PARK VILLAGE.

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ON BEHALF OF OF A ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN FOR PARK VILLAGE, A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1035 EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND 300 SOUTH CARROLL AVENUE.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS SP1.

THEY ARE MODIFYING THE EXISTING REGULATIONS TO MODIFY THE CORNER FEATURE WHERE THE FOUNTAIN IS LOCATED ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG 1709 AND REDUCE LANDSCAPING AND STREET TREES ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THE CURRENT LAND USE IS RETAIL COMMERCIAL.

IT DOES HAVE AN SP ONE ZONE AND AGAIN THE ZONING IS TO MODIFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS ZONING. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE PROPOSED CHANGES AS MENTIONED THE MODIFICATION, THE CORNER FEATURE REDUCTION OF THE LARGE FOUNTAIN TO ADD AN ACTIVITY LAWN AND PUBLIC ART AND A SHADE STRUCTURE ADJACENT TO THE LARGE FOUNTAIN TO THE SOUTH ENHANCE THE HARDSCAPE MATERIALS, INCLUDING PAVERS IN THE FOUNTAIN PLAZA AREAS, ENHANCE THE LANDSCAPING TO THE NORTHEAST NORTHWEST CORNERS OF THE SITE, AND REMOVE AT GRADE PLANTING BEDS AND TREE WELLS WITHIN 20 FEET OF THE BUILDING.

I KNOW COUNCIL IS AWARE OF SOME OF THE SOIL CONDITIONS AND CHALLENGES THAT THE SHOPPING CENTER HAS HAD THROUGH THE YEARS.

THE EXISTING INTEGRAL COLOR CONCRETE FINISHES OUTSIDE THE IDENTIFIED IMPROVEMENTS WILL REMAIN AS IN PLACE TODAY.

THIS IS THE REVISED SITE PLAN.

THE TWO HATCHED AREAS SHOWN ON THE SLIDE IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE CHANGES WILL OCCUR.

THE DETAILS ON THE SITE PLAN INCLUDE THE MOON SHAPED FOUNTAIN ENHANCED PLANTINGS AROUND THE BOWL. THE FOUNTAIN INCLUDED A PODIUM FOR A PUBLIC ART PIECE.

THERE'LL BE AN ENTERTAINMENT DECK.

AN ACTIVITY LAWN A PAVILION WITH SEATING ADDED OUTDOOR SEATING, FESTOON LIGHTING, FENCING AND CLOSING THE AREA TO PROVIDE SOME SECURITY, BOLLARDS WILL BE PLACED ALONG 1709 INTERSECTION AND ENHANCED PAVERS IN THE FOUNTAIN AREA.

THE DARK GREEN AREAS SHOW THE PRIMARY LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE CHANGES.

THIS IS A REVISED FOUNTAIN PLAZA.

I KNOW COUNCIL IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS CONCEPT, RENDERING THE CHANGES SINCE THE P&Z FOCUS ON THE GLASS FENCE AROUND THE GLORIA THAT WILL SURROUND THE LAWN

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AREA. THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ABOUT THE ART PIECE PODIUM. AND THIS IS JUST A HOLDING PLACE FOR FUTURE ART PIECE.

P&Z WAS CONCERNED ABOUT KIDS JUMPING ON THE PODIUM AND THEN JUMPING INTO THE FOUNTAIN AREA. BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THIS GRAPH, THE FENCE WILL BE SURROUNDING THE PODIUM, WILL BE ACTUALLY IN THE FOUNTAIN AREA MAKING IT AT LEAST DIFFICULT TO ACCESS.

THIS IS JUST SHOWS THE DETAILS OF THE PAVERS PLANTINGS IN THIS AREA, THE VARIOUS PAVERS THAT WILL BE USED ARE SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.

IN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THERE IS A FENCE PLAN SHOWING THE FENCE AND HOW IT ENCLOSED THE ACTIVITY AREA. THIS IS THE PAVILION.

THE SHADE STRUCTURE WILL BE ADDED JUST TO THE SOUTH WEST OF THE FOUNTAIN AREA.

THIS WILL BE A METAL POST STRUCTURE WITH THE STANDING SEAM ROOF.

THERE'LL BE WOOD BEAMS UNDERNEATH THE ROOF STRUCTURE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING AREA.

IN TERMS OF CANOPY TREES THROUGHOUT THE SITE, THERE'LL BE A NET LOSS OF TWENTY EIGHT CANOPY TREES AND SIX ACCENT TREES.

BUT THERE'LL BE A MORE CONCENTRATION OF PLANTINGS IN THE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS ALONG, CARROLL, IN 1709.

AND THEN THERE ACTUALLY BE A SHRUB INCREASE, A NET GAIN OF APPROXIMATELY 859 SHRUBS.

THE LANDSCAPING REMOVAL, AS MENTIONED, ANY PLANTING BEDS OR STREET TREES WITHIN 20 FEET OF THE BUILDING WILL BE REMOVED AS SHOWN BY THE RED CIRCLES INDICATE THE TREES TO BE REMOVED. THESE ARE TO ADDRESS GEOTECHNICAL ISSUES WITH THE IRRIGATION AND WATER SEEPING UNDER THE FOUNDATION, CREATING ISSUES IN THE FOUNDATION AS WELL AS THE SIDEWALK AND DRIVE AREAS. IN YOUR PACKET.

YOU HAVE THE DETAILS ON THE LANDSCAPE AREAS AND THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WILL OCCUR.

THERE WILL BE PAVERS.

NEXT TO THIS IS THE OLD FRESH MARKET BUILDING, BUILDING A THE LARGE TENANT SPACE.

BUT THERE WILL BE PAVERS, SIDEWALK, THERE'LL BE A RETAINING WALL, SOME DRAINAGE THAT WILL CAPTURE THAT WATER MOVING BACK TOWARD THAT BUILDING.

BUT THERE'LL BE QUITE A BIT OF ENHANCEMENT AROUND THE CORNERS OF THIS BUILDING SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE. THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE RETAINING WALL.

THE RETAINING WALL WILL MATCH THE EXISTING CULTURED STONE ON THE BUILDING.

THIS IS A LANDSCAPE AREA, TOO, WHICH IS JUST TO THE EAST OF THE CORNER.

IT'S IN THE PARKING AREA.

AND YOU CAN SEE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THIS AREA.

AND THEN THE LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE THE CORNER FEATURE.

PLUS THERE'LL BE SOME TREE LOCATIONS THERE.

THIS IS THE FENCING PLAN SHOWING THE FENCING IN RED.

AND THIS IS THE JUST TO THE SOUTH AREA, JUST SOUTH OF THE SHADE STRUCTURE AND SOME OF THE PAVER ENHANCEMENT AS WELL AS THE PLANTINGS WILL OCCUR IN THAT AREA.

THERE IS ONE VARIANCE REQUESTED TO OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE AND REQUEST TO ALLOW THE INTERIOR AND PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS.

ALSO, AS MENTIONED, THEY WILL BE REMOVING THE AT GRADE PLANTERS AND TREE WELLS WITHIN 20 FEET OF THE BUILDING THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

ALSO, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF THE FOUNTAIN IN THE PAST, STAFF HAS DEVELOPED SOME ZONING PERFORMANCE RELATED CRITERIA THAT WE'D LIKE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADDING TO THE MOTION.

SOME OF THESE ARE BASED ON THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.

ONE IS A LETTER OF CREDIT IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE HUNDRED FIFTY PERCENT OF THE PROJECT COST NO LATER THAN DECEMBER 1ST, 2020.

THE LETTER OF CREDIT SHOULD BE ISSUED FROM A MAJOR FINANCIAL BANK WITH ASSETS MORE THAN 500 MILLION DOLLARS.

THE CITY AND ITS CONTRACTORS ARE GRANTED THE RIGHT OF ACCESS UNDER THE PROPERTY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE EVENT THE CITY DRAWS DOWN ON THIS LETTER OF CREDIT.

IN TERMS OF THE SCHEDULE.

THE STAFF HAS WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO DEVELOP A SCHEDULE.

ONE OF P&Z'S RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO HAVE A SCHEDULE PRESENTED AT THE FIRST READING FOR COUNCIL. I KNOW THIS IS IN YOUR PACKET.

YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT. BUT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, THIS IS BASED ON ASSUMING APPROVAL ON THE NOVEMBER 17TH WITH THE COUNCIL, THE CANCELATION OF THE NOVEMBER 3RD MEETING.

THAT WITHIN TWO BUSINESS DAYS AFTER THE NOVEMBER 17TH MEETING, THE PROPERTY OWNERS MAKE

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CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THE PROJECT TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW.

IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES, PARTICULARLY TO THE CORNER FEATURE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS EVENING. THIS WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO WORK ON THOSE CONSTRUCTION PLANS DURING THE FIRST AND SECOND READING AND SUBMIT THOSE IN A TIMELY MANNER.

WITHIN 20 DAYS AFTER THE ASSUMED APPROVAL ON NOVEMBER 17TH, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL OBTAIN BIDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS 40 DAYS AFTER THAT DATE.

PROPERTY OWNER SHALL ENTER A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE PROJECT IMPROVEMENTS.

WITHIN SIX WEEKS AFTER THE CITY APPROVES IT BE COMMENCE OR BEGIN CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 20 WEEKS AFTER THE PROJECT, CONSTRUCTION HAS COMMENCED OR NO LATER THAN MAY 31ST.

IT WILL BE COMPLETED AND REQUEST A FINAL INSPECTION FROM THE CITY.

IN TERMS OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FOUNTAIN MOVING FORWARD BASED ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THE FOUNTAIN SHALL BE OPERATIONAL 95 PERCENT OF THE TIME.

STAFF HAS MODIFIED THAT TO LOOK AT A SIX MONTH PERIOD RECOMMENDS LOOKING AT A SIX MONTH PERIOD ROUGHLY.

YOU'D HAVE TO RUN ABOUT 171 DAYS OUT OF THAT 180 AND LIMIT IT TO THE BUSINESS HOURS, 10:00 A.M. TO 10 P.M.

. IF THE CITY DETERMINES THE FOUNTAIN IS NOT OPERATIONAL THE CITY WILL PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE OWNER. AND WE WOULD AGREE TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE PROPERTY MANAGER AS WELL AS COPY TO SHOPCORE AT THEIR CORPORATE ADDRESS.

WITHIN 10 BUSINESS DAYS AFTER ANY VIOLATION NOTICE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL PROVIDE A RESPONSE TO THE CITY ON THE OPERATIONAL STATUS AND IF NECESSARY HAVE THE REPAIRS DONE AND PROVIDE THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING THE WRITTEN NOTICE ON THE TIME FRAME TO MAKE THE REPAIRS.

THIS IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S MOTION ON THIS SLIDE.

THIS IS IN YOUR PACKET.

BUT THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED THOSE REQUIREMENTS RECOMMENDED BY P&Z AT THEIR MEETING.

JUST TO BREAK DOWN THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS, PROVIDE A MORE DETAILED RENDERING OF THE SITE PLAN A CITY COUNCIL, A REVISED PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.

IT SHOWS PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FROM THE INTERSECTION AND HOW ACCESS GATE INTO THE GLORIA'S PATIO PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ON PEDESTRIAN ACCESS POINTS, AS WELL AS FENCE HEIGHTS TO ADDRESS SAFETY ASPECTS THEY HAVE PROVIDED THOSE, INCLUDING HOW THE FOUNTAIN PODIUM HAS BEEN REDESIGNED TO DISCOURAGE ACCESS TO THE ART PIECE OR TO THE PODIUM.

THERE IS A COMMENT THE FENCE HEIGHTS ARE INDICATED AT 42 INCHES.

P&Z MEETING, THEY DID QUOTE ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT CAN BRING OR PRESENT, A SOUND OR CONSTRUCTION FIGURE, BUT THEY'RE AGREEABLE TO THE LETTER OF CREDIT ONE POINT FIVE TIMES THE ANTICIPATED PROJECT COSTS. THE SCHEDULE HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR THE P&Z'S RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THE STAFF IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT HAS DEVELOPED THE PERFORMANCE CRITERIA.

SO THIS IS EXISTING PHOTO, JUST SOME PICTURES OF THE AREA TO BE REDONE.

SOME OF THE ACCESS POINTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT P&Z AND A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT WILL BE ON THIS 1709 SIDE ALONG THIS CORRIDOR AS SHOWN IN THESE PHOTOS.

SO IT WILL BE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, RETAINING WALL AND SIDEWALK AREA.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFFS PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU KEN. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I'M GOING TO BE ON MY GOOD BEHAVIOR.

OK. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? GREAT IF YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

CRAIG MYERS 13838 PEYTON DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

OK, AND WHO ARE YOU?

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ARE YOU WITH SHOPCORE. WHO ARE YOU WITH. I'M WITH FORESIGHT CONSULTING.

OK. OK.

SHOPCORE REPRESENTATIVES ARE ALSO HERE AS WELL.

NICE. SO I WANT TO GET THIS DONE.

FOR FIVE YEARS I'VE BEEN MAYOR FOR SIX YEARS HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST EMBARRASSMENT OF MY ENTIRE TIME AS MAYOR.

I'M JUST IT'S BEYOND EMBARRASSING.

AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW I GET MESSAGED MORE ABOUT THIS THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN THE CITY CONSISTENTLY, BECAUSE IT JUST IS EMBARRASSING.

IT'S TOTALLY EMBARRASSING.

SO DOES THIS ALL LOOK GOOD? CAN THIS HAPPEN? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

OK, YEAH. IF NOT, I CAN CALL YOU.

WAS GOING TO BE PROVIDED TONIGHT. I THINK SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUDGET QUESTION.

OKAY MORE INFORMATION PRIOR TO COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION? WE HAVE A BIDS BY BACKDATE FROM OUR CONTRACTORS OF NOVEMBER 20TH.

WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FIGURE.

IT WOULD BE PRIOR TO WHEN WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE BUILDING PERMITS ANYWAY.

SO AND THAT AMOUNT WE WOULD BE FINE TO USE AS THE ONE POINT FIVE MULTIPLIER.

OK, THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD.

AND YOU'RE OK WITH THE SCHEDULE THAT WE PRESENTED AND THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR YOU.

YES. I MEAN, NOT THAT THIS IS LIKE NECESSARY, BUT I THINK MY TERM IS UP ON MAY THE 10TH, 11TH, 12TH. SO IF YOU WANT TO GET IT DONE IN 19 WEEKS, I WOULD BE REALLY HAPPY.

SURE, SURE. WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN.

AND ACTUALLY, WE'RE EXCITED TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE CITY ART.

SO AND I KNOW ALISON WILL GET WITH YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

SO ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I HAVE ONE.

GO AHEAD. YOU FIRST.

NO, YOU BY ALL MEANS SIR.

IT'S GOING TO SOUND SILLY, BUT I'M SERIOUS.

CAN WE PUT UP THE PICTURE OF THE FOUNTAIN RIGHT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS? WHY DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT, JOHN? I MEAN OK, NEXT ONE OR ONE BEFORE.

OK, ONE MORE, ONE MORE, CAN Y'ALL PLEASE GET THE FADED HOME DEPOT BUCKET OUT OF THERE AND GET A NEW ORANGE.

I MEAN, IT LOOKS SO BAD AND I DRIVE BY THIS.

I'M LIKE, Y'ALL DON'T EVEN HAVE NEW BUCKETS OUT THERE.

PLEASE. I KNOW YOU THINK I'M KIDDING.

I'M NOT. IT LOOKS SO BAD.

SURE. WE CAN DO THAT. DID YOU EVER SEE IT WHEN THEY HAD THE HOME DEPOT BUCKETS WITH UMBRELLAS STUCK IN THE CEMENT ALL LAID IN? OH, YEAH. THAT WAS A REALLY NICE TOUCH.

THAT'S ALL I ASK IS NEW HOME DEPOT BUCKETS.

OK. CAN YOU MAKE THAT HAPPEN FOR ME? YES. YOU'RE THE MAN. OK, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. NO, IT'S FADED.

IT USED TO BE ORANGE BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN SITTING OUT IN SOME CONSTRUCTION YARD FOR TWO YEARS. YEAH, DUDE.

I BELABOR THE POINT. HE SAID HE WOULD DO THAT.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME FOUR YEARS.

DIRECTOR BAKER, CAN YOU GO BACK TO I THINK IT'S CALLED PLAN THREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE CONCEPT.

WHILE HE'S PULLING THAT UP.

I JUST GOT TO MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHLAKE.

I THINK YOUR CLIENT OWES THIS COMMUNITY APOLOGY.

I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT'S SHAMEFUL WHAT SHOPCORE HAS DONE WITH THIS CORNER FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

I KNOW THEY HAVEN'T BEEN THE OWNER OF THE ENTIRE TIME, BUT YOU SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED.

AND MAGAZINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SAYING, HEY, WE HEAR YOU, WE'RE SORRY AND WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT.

AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO LET THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GET DONE AND THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE SOME PRETTY GOOD TENANTS THAT DO THEIR BEST TO PROVIDE A GOOD PRODUCT IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT SHOP HERE AND A LOT OF FOLKS COME INTO THIS COMMUNITY TO SHOP HERE. AND YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH DISREGARDED THAT, BY THE WAY YOU'VE TREATED THIS CORNER. AND SO ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMUNITY, YOU OWE THIS COMMUNITY AN APOLOGY.

SO THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT.

I DON'T CARE HOW YOU DO IT, BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER IT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M NOT TOTALLY SOLD ON THIS CONCEPT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO SLOW IT DOWN.

BUT WHEN I THINK OF THAT AREA THAT IS KIND OF IN THE TENANTS, GLORIA'S AND RAW SUSHI, I SEE THAT AS AN OPEN SPACE.

RIGHT. MORE OF AN ACTIVE SPACE.

AND YOU PUT A FAIR AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING IN THERE.

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AND THEN YOU ALSO ARE PROPOSING CONCRETE PAVERS.

AND I SEE KIDS BE BOPPING AROUND IN THERE.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ASTROTURF OR SOME TYPE OF SYNTHETIC TURF, AND THEN IT TRANSITIONS INTO ROCK PAVERS AND THEN UP AGAINST THE GLASS.

YOU HAVE A TRANSITION INTO LANDSCAPING.

I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE AS MUCH OPEN SPACE, MAYBE A COUPLE OF SOFT BENCHES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR PARENTS TO WATCH THEIR KIDS KIND OF RELAX AND KIND OF MEANDER IN THAT SPACE OPENLY. MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME YARD TYPE GAMES THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO LEAVE OUT THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT MAKES IT MORE INVITING.

IF YOU DO THAT, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS COMPRESSING THE SPACE AND GIVING LESS AREA FOR KIDS TO KIND OF ROAM SAFELY AND FREELY IN THAT SPACE.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOUR INTENT WAS.

IT LOOKS COOL FROM THE IMAGE, BUT I THINK FUNCTIONALITY WISE, I THINK WE'LL ALL BE KIND OF DISAPPOINTED IN THE END GOING, MAN, THE KIDS CAN'T REALLY MOVE AROUND IN HERE AND YOU CAN'T REALLY USE THE SPACE FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN KIND OF WALKING INTO IT AND WALKING OUT. AND I THINK YOU'D HATE TO SEE A YOUNG TODDLER KIND OF RUN AROUND THERE AND THEN FACEPLANT IT ONTO THE ROCK PAVERS.

SO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS AGAIN AND TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN SPACE FOR KIDS TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE EASILY.

AND I THINK YOUR TENANTS WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

SPECIFICALLY, THESE TWO CORNER TENANTS THAT HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT, PATIENTLY, PROBABLY PAYING THEIR RENT AND NOT HAVING WHAT THEY NEEDED THERE.

SO PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT FEELS THAT WAY OR NOT.

BUT YEAH ON JUST MAKING IT ALL ASTROTURF AND THE HECK WITH THE PAVERS AND THE HECK WITH THE LANDSCAPING. IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE.

IT'S EXISTING CONCRETE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE DO HAVE MAIN ENTRY POINTS IN BETWEEN RAW SUSHI AND GLORIA'S THAT I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR WE CAN GO BACK WITH THAT IDEA, BUT WE COULD LOOK TO EXPAND IT.

AND THE PART WITH THE ASTROTURF IS THAT IT WORKS IN THAT AREA BECAUSE THE ACTUAL FOUNTAIN BASIN IS SUNK DOWN ABOUT A FOOT TWO FEET FROM THE ACTUAL GRADE.

SO THE BUILDING UP OF THE TURF GETS US TO AN AT GRADE LEVEL OF THE OUTSIDE PAVEMENT.

GOT YA. SO IF WE WERE GOING TO REMOVE EVERYTHING FURTHER TO THE SOUTHWEST, IT WOULD JUST TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK WITH BUILDING BACK THE SUB GRADE.

I JUST THINK THAT THE LESS HARDSCAPE YOU HAVE AND LESS LANDSCAPE YOU HAVE IN THAT PARTICULAR SPACE, THE BETTER OFF AND THE MORE USER FRIENDLY AND THE MORE ACTIVE SPACE IT'LL BE. SO TAKE THAT FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN MAYBE COME UP WITH.

JUST IN THAT SECTION THERE THAT'S KIND OF IN BETWEEN THE GLASS WALLS.

I'VE BEEN TO A FEW LOCATIONS WHERE THEY'VE KIND OF ADOPTED THIS CONCEPT OF HAVING TURF AND IT REALLY GETS A LOT OF USE WHEN IT'S OPEN ENOUGH AND YOU SEE THE KIDS FROLICKING IN THERE AND MAN, IT INVITES PATRONS.

IT JUST INVITES, YOU KNOW, PARENTS WANT TO STOP THERE AND HANG OUT AND LET THEIR KIDS MEANDER FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

SO I THINK THAT PREVENTS I THINK THE WAY THAT THAT'S DESIGNED KIND OF PREVENTS THAT A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF MAKES IT A LITTLE CLAUSTROPHOBIC AND THE BUSHES EVERYTHING JUST TIGHTENS THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

OK, THANKS. COMMENTS.

I SEE WHERE CHAD'S GOING WITH THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE, CERTAINLY DURING THIS TIME, WITH COVID THE MORE OPEN, INVITING SPACE.

I DON'T WANT TO GO ANYWHERE THAT ISN'T OPEN.

THE THING I GET STUCK ON IS I WANT IT TO WORK.

ME TOO. THAT'S ALL. RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL.

AND I'M NOT BEING I'M NOT JUST TRYING TO BE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I SEE THE FOUNTAIN AND I GET CONCERNED. RIGHT.

I LOVE HOW.

SO I WAS THERE TODAY AND IT WAS SOME WORKERS MILLING AROUND.

I SO I GUESS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED RIGHT AROUND RIGHT AFTER THAT.

RIGHT LIKE A YEAR LATER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH IT WORKED FOR ABOUT SIX YEAH. SO,TO ME I JUST WANT SOMETHING THAT, I'VE NEVER EVER WALKED TO THAT SPOT, EVEN WHEN THE FOUNTAIN WAS QUOTE UNQUOTE WORKING.

IT'S JUST NEVER BEEN AN AREA I WANTED TO WALK TO.

AND THEN THE WHOLE ISSUE WITH IT NOT WORKING, I JUST LOVE FOR SOMETHING THAT TO CHAD'S POINT, WHEN PEOPLE WOULD DESIRE TO WALK OUT THERE AND THEY WOULD FIND THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF ENJOYMENT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD WANT.

BECAUSE THE TIMES WHEN I WALKED CLOSE TO THAT, YOU KNOW, EXITING GLORIA'S OR THE SUSHI PLACE IT'S JUST NEVER APPEALED TO ME TO THE DEGREE THAT I'D WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TO GO OVER THERE. SO TO CHAD'S POINT, IF WHATEVER BETTER IN REALITY, I'M FINE WITH IT.

I JUST WANT THE FOUNTAIN TO WORK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TO NOT AGAIN TO BELABOR THE POINT, AS COUNCILMAN HUFFMAN SAID A SECOND AGO.

BUT I MEAN, THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

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WHEN PEOPLE FIND OUT YOU'RE A COUNCILMAN OR COUNCIL PERSON AND THEY SAY MAN YOU GUYS ARE GREAT, BUT YOU CAN'T GET A FOUNTAIN THAT WORKS.

IT'S LIKE THEY THINK WE'RE THE DESIGNER AND THE ENGINEERS BEHIND IT AND IT'S BECOME SUCH AN EYESORE. AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NOW TO COUNCILMAN PATTON'S POINT IS THEY'RE GOING TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS.

I'M SURE THEY'RE HOME WATCHING THE VIDEO.

HI, EVERYBODY. THAT'S A JOKE BY THE WAY.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, SERIOUSLY, WE'RE DOING THAT AGAIN.

SO IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WASN'T JUST US FROM THE DAIS SAYING WE HAVE THIS PLAN AND WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT SHOPCORE IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, WHATEVER SHAPE THAT APOLOGY TAKES, IT WOULD BE GREAT.

BUT I JUST WANT IT TO WORK AND BE PALATABLE, TO BE USED BY THE FAMILIES.

TO SPEAK TO THE WORKING PORTION.

SO PREVIOUS COMPONENTS ARE FED TO THAT FOUNTAIN BASIN UNDERNEATH THE GROUND TO AN UNDERGROUND PUMP ROOM.

AND THERE'S FIVE OR SIX VERY LARGE PUMPS THAT ARE FED BY PVC PIPES TO THIS.

THE NEW DESIGN ESSENTIALLY REMOVES THE ENTIRE NEED FOR UNDERGROUND PIPES AND PUMPS FROM A SEPARATE ROOM. ALL OF THE FOUNTAIN BUBBLERS THAT WE HAVE ARE GOING TO BE JUST A SELF-CONTAINED UNITS. SO WATER IN ONE SIDE, WATER OUT ONE, ELECTRICAL WIRE COMING OUT.

SO EVERYTHING IS SELF ENCLOSED.

THERE IS GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH MORE EASIER TO MAINTAIN LONG TERM.

IF THERE'S EVER A SMALL ISSUE, IT'S JUST ONE ISSUE RATHER THAN ONE PUMP GOING DOWN AND AFFECTING SIX COMPONENTS OR 12 UNITS OR ALL OF THEM.

SO IT WILL GREATLY SIMPLIFY THE MAINTENANCE AND OVERALL USE OF THE FOUNTAIN.

SO I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT YOU'RE HERE.

YEAH. AND YOU'RE IN FRONT OF A MICROPHONE, I'M CURIOUS, CAN YOU GIVE US LIKE A REALLY BRIEF RUNDOWN OF WHY THIS THING FAILED SO SPECTACULARLY AND WHY IT'S BEEN YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO FIX IT.

SO IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE OVERALL CHALLENGES THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS WITH THEIR SOIL. SO WITH THIS PUMP ROOM, THESE PIPES GO UNDERGROUND AND OVER TIME.

WHERE IS THE PUMP ROOM.

TO THE EAST OF RAW SUSHI.

SO ALONG CARROLL.

YEAH, OK. AND OVER TIME, THE SOILS HAVE EXPANDED AND CRUSHED PIPES UNDERGROUND.

AND SO AT THE SAME TIME, THAT OCCURS UNDERNEATH THE FOUNTAIN, BUT ALSO UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK. SO WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE LEAK LOCATORS TEAR UP SIDEWALK, TEAR UP THE ACTUAL FOUNTAIN TO TRY TO FIND IT.

BUT YOU'LL FIND TWENTY LEAKS, TEN LEAKS.

YOU FIX THE TEN THEN YOU COME BACK THERE'S STILL A LEAK BECAUSE YOU SEE ONE FOUNTAIN STILL NOT WORKING. SO IT'S ALMOST ENTIRELY BASED UPON THE SOIL CAUSING THESE PIPES TO BREAK UNDERNEATH THE GROUND.

IT WAS SCHEDULED FORTY PVC'S, WHICH Y'ALL USED.

YEAH. EVERYTHING WAS.

THIS CONCEPT COULD HAVE WORKED, WERE IT NOT FOR THE SOIL.

IN THE ACTUAL BUILDING OF THE FOUNTAIN, BUT THE SOIL IS THE PRIMARY ISSUE.

YES. SO THERE WERE SOME FLAWS IN THE BUILDING OF THE FOUNTAIN.

YOU ARE SAYING. THERE'S SOME DESIGN ISSUES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SIMPLIFIED.

THE OTHER ISSUE WITH THESE COMPONENTS, THEY'RE JUST NOT EASILY REPLICATED.

SO THE REPAIRS YOU HAVE TO SEND OUT FOR INDIVIDUAL PIECES THAT HAVE TO BE MADE, THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN GET LOCALLY IN DFW, SO THEY HAD TO GET SENT OFF TO CALIFORNIA AND GERMANY FOR SOME STUFF TO GET INDIVIDUAL SMALL PARTS, WHEREAS THESE THINGS ARE JUST GOING TO BE THEY'RE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE THEY'LL BE EASILY REPLACED.

IN ESSENCE, YOU'VE COMPLETELY SIMPLIFIED THE ENGINEERING.

ABSOLUTELY. ON THIS DESIGN GOING FORWARD AND ELIMINATED EVERYTHING FROM THE PAST.

IT'LL BE COMPLETELY ELIMINATED, YOU'RE GOING TO REPIPE THE WHOLE THING, SELF-CONTAINED UNITS OR REPIPE THE MAJORITY OF IT.

OBVIOUSLY NOT THE MAIN WATER LINE.

YEAH. AND IF YOU LOSE A FOUNTAIN, YOU JUST REPLACE THAT FOUNTAIN AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS STILL FUNCTIONING. SO IT'S FUNCTIONING EVEN IF YOU'VE GOT ONE THAT'S DOWN, IT'S STILL YOU'RE STILL ABLE TO PUMP. NO PROBLEM I MEAN, THERE'S ONE THAT CIRCULATES WATER TO THE UPPER, BUT IT'S FIVE, SIX FEET JUST IN A RIGHT ANGLE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WOULD BE A NICE IDEA IS AND I'M FINE WITH THIS, YOU CAN PLAY AROUND WITH THE TURF IS FINE WITH ME, BUT I LOVE THIS.

SO AS SOON AS WE CAN GET OUR COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE ART, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A HUGE INVESTMENT ON OUR PART, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO HAVE A RENDERING DONE THAT SAYS EITHER COMING SOON OR, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WHATEVER. I MEAN, I THINK PEOPLE WILL LAUGH AT FIRST.

I THINK WE'LL GET A LITTLE LIKE, HA HA.

BUT I DO THINK THIS IT REALLY HELPS PEOPLE WHEN THEY KNOW SOMETHING'S HAPPENING.

I DON'T WANT TO DO IT NOW OR AFTER THE SECOND VOTE BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PLACEHOLDER THAT WE PUT IN FOR A PIECE OF ART.

THEY JUST CAN'T SEE IT.

SO WE'LL NEED TO SHOW THEM EXACTLY WHAT THE ARTS COUNCIL HAS DECIDED ON.

AND THEY ALWAYS DO A LOVELY JOB.

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SO THEN IF YOU GUYS COULD PUT UP A COMING SOON, YOU KNOW, COLOR RENDITION FOR US SOMEWHERE ALONG 1709 WHEREVER IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU.

I DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH ANY OF THE TENANTS, BUT MAYBE IN ONE OF THOSE FLOWER BEDS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING OR SOMETHING, I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY GO A LONG WAY AND MAYBE PUT IT UP ONCE IT'S OBVIOUS CONSTRUCTION IS STARTING.

WHAT DO YOU THINK GUYS, THAT.

YEAH, I THINK IT HELPS.

AGREED. YEAH.

OK, OK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

I WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED TO HAVE TO STAND UP TONIGHT, EVEN THOUGH I WAS REALLY NICE.

BUT I REALLY IT'S JUST REALLY IT'S JUST BEEN A NIGHTMARE.

IT REALLY HAS BEEN A NIGHTMARE.

SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS TO GET THIS DONE AND TO GET THIS WORKING. SURE.

THANK YOU. OKAY ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OK, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES MAYOR AND COUNCIL I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN, A ORDINANCE NUMBER 480-643D, CASE NUMBER ZA20-0021.

FIRST READING, ZONING, CHANGE AND SIGHT PLAN FOR PARK VILLAGE, LOCATED AT TEN THIRTY FIVE EAST SOUTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND THREE HUNDRED SOUTH CARROLL AVENUE IN SOUTHLAKE TEXAS, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 13TH 2020 AND SITE PLAN REVIEW SUMMARY NUMBER THREE DATED OCTOBER 13TH 2020.

GRANTING THE VARIANCE REQUEST AS TO LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE FIVE FOUR FOUR AS AMENDED TO ALLOW THE INTERIOR AND PARKING LOT LANDSCAPE PLANTINGS AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS.

AND THIS IS TO ADDRESS THE EXISTING DRAINAGE ISSUES AT GRADE PLANTERS AND TREE WELLS WITHIN TWENTY FEET OF A BUILDING ARE PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF NOTES HERE.

NOTING COMPLIANCE WITH THE DRAWINGS AND OTHER INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AND INCLUDED IN THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF REPORT FOR OCTOBER 20TH 2020 SHALL BE REQUIRED BASED ON THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE NEW LANDSCAPING, HARD SCAPING AND FOUNTAIN IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE DESCRIBED IN THE OCTOBER 20TH 2020 STAFF REPORT.

THE PROPERTY OWNERS SHALL PROVIDE A COMMERCIAL LETTER OF CREDIT IN AN AMOUNT THAT IS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY PERCENT OF THE PROJECT COST NO LATER THAN DECEMBER 1ST 2020.

THIS LETTER OF CREDIT SHALL BE ISSUED FROM A MAJOR FINANCIAL CENTER BANK WITH ASSETS OF AT LEAST FIVE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.

THE CITY AND ITS CONTRACTORS ARE GRANTED A RIGHT OF ACCESS ONTO THE PROPERTY TO MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE EVENT THE CITY DRAWS ON THE LETTER OF CREDIT TO COMPLETE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SCHEDULE SET FORTH BELOW.

COMPLIANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING PROJECT SCHEDULE SHALL BE REQUIRED, AND THIS SCHEDULE ASSUMES A SECOND READING AND FINAL APPROVAL ON NOVEMBER 17TH 2020.

FIRST WITHIN TWO BUSINESS DAYS AFTER NOVEMBER 17TH 2020.

THE PROPERTY OWNERS SHALL SUBMIT CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THE PROJECT TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST INCLUDE THE NEW LANDSCAPING HARDSCAPING AND FOUNTAIN IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE DESCRIBED IN THE OCTOBER 20TH TWENTY TWENTY STAFF REPORT.

SECOND, WITHIN TWENTY DAYS AFTER NOVEMBER 17TH TWENTY TWENTY, THE PROPERTY OWNERS SHALL OBTAIN BIDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THIRD WITHIN FORTY DAYS AFTER NOVEMBER 17TH 2020 BUT NOT BEFORE THE CITY APPROVES THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND ISSUES A PERMIT, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL ENTER INTO A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE PROJECT, IMPROVEMENTS.

FORTH WITHIN SIX WEEKS AFTER THE CITY APPROVES THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND ISSUES A PERMIT, BUT NO SOONER THAN JANUARY 8TH TWENTY TWENTY ONE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL CAUSE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT TO BE COMMENCED.

AND FINALLY, WITHIN 20 WEEKS AFTER THE PROJECT, CONSTRUCTION IS COMMENCED, BUT NOT LATER THAN MAY 31ST TWENTY TWENTY ONE CONSTRUCTION SHALL BE COMPLETED AND THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL REQUEST A FINAL INSPECTION FROM THE CITY.

ALSO NOTING THAT ON COMMENCING ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH FOLLOWING COMPLETION OF THE FOUNTAIN AND APPROVAL OF A FINAL INSPECTION OF THE FOUNTAIN BY THE CITY, THE FOUNTAIN SHALL BE OPERATIONAL AT LEAST 95 PERCENT OF THE TIME DURING BUSINESS HOURS DURING EACH SIX MONTH PERIOD THEREAFTER, BUSINESS HOURS MEANS 10 A.M.

THROUGH 10 P.M..

IF THE CITY DETERMINES THAT THE FOUNTAIN IS NOT OPERATIONAL, THE CITY SHALL PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE OWNER.

NOTICES SHALL BE DIRECTED TO TERRIE HATFIELD, PROPERTY MANAGER AT THATFIELD@SHOPCORE.COM WITH A COPY TO BE MAILED TO SHOPCORE PROPERTIES ATTENTION LEGAL DEPARTMENT TWO LIBERTY PLACE 50 SOUTH 16TH STREET SUITE THREE THREE TWO FIVE PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA 19102 NOTICES SHALL BE DELIVERED BY EMAIL AND MAIL.

IF THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER CHANGES, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL PROVIDE THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING WITH WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE UPDATED CONTACT INFORMATION.

WITHIN TEN DAYS AFTER RECEIPT OF THE NOTICE FROM THE CITY, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL PROVIDE A RESPONSE TO THE EXTENT OF THE OPERATIONAL STATUS OF THE FOUNTAIN.

IF NECESSARY, THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR NECESSARY FOUNTAIN REPAIRS AND PROVIDE THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING WITH A WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE TIME FRAME REQUIRED TO MAKE THAT REPAIR.

THE REPAIR SHALL BE COMPLETED WITHIN SUCH TIME FRAME AS OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT OR ANY

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AMENDMENTS. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS PARAGRAPH, A BUSINESS DAY IS ANY DAY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY THAT IS NOT A CITY RECOGNIZED, HOLIDAY.

ALSO SHOPCORE SHALL PROVIDE THE CITY ACCESS TO THE FOUNTAIN AREA TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN ANY PUBLIC ART INSTALLED.

AND THEN ALSO NOTING FOR A SECOND READING THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO PROVIDE PER COUNCIL MEMBER PATTON'S COMMENTS AN ALTERNATIVE LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH MORE OPEN SPACE AND LESS HARDSCAPE BETWEEN GLORIA'S AND RAW SUSHI.

ALSO NOTING PER COUNCIL MEMBER HUFFMAN'S COMMENTS THE REMOVAL OF THE FADED HOME DEPOT OR OTHER BUCKETS BY THE FOUNTAIN.

PREPARING A RENDERING OF THE CHOSEN ART TO BE PUBLICIZED TO THE COMMUNITY.

GREAT. IS THERE A SECOND.

THAT WAS AN A PLUS MOTION AND I SECOND IT.

LET'S VOTE TO GET THIS BABY DONE.

BEST MOTION.

BEST MOTION IN THE LAST 5 YEARS.

YEAH BEST MOTION. 6 0 THAT PASSES. OK, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING.

OK, NEXT ON CORRECT.

WHAT ARE WE 9A NOW.

FIRST NATIONAL BANK SIGN.

OK, MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF FIRST NATIONAL BANK SLI GROUP IS REQUESTING

[Items 9C & 11]

APPROVAL OF SIGN VARIANCE TO SIGN ORDINANCE NUMBER 704 AS AMENDED FOR THE NEW BUILDING LOCATED AT 605 WEST STATE HIGHWAY 114 TO ALLOW ONE UPPER STORY SIGN ATTACHED TO THE FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING ON THE EAST ELEVATION AND UPPER STORY ILLUMINATED CLOCK THAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN ON THE EAST ELEVATION AND THE CLOCK ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE TWO DIRECTIONAL SIGNS REDUCED FROM THREE PRESENTED AT THE SIGN BOARD. FIVE DRIVE THRU SIGNS, A MONUMENT SIGN ON THE NORTH DRIVEWAY.

THE AS MENTIONED, THE UPPER STORY ILLUMINATED CLOCK WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE SP ONE ZONING REGULATIONS.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE EAST OF DOVE ROAD.

AND THIS IS A SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2019.

THE BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE.

I'LL QUICKLY GO OVER THIS.

MONUMENT A IS ON 114 ON THE NORTH SIDE, ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD THE DRIVE ENTRANCE CLOSEST TO DOVE. YOU DO HAVE THREE OPTIONS TO CONSIDER BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

THE COMMENTS AT THE SIGN BOARD WAS THAT THE INITIAL SIGN SHOWED SIX PANELS.

THE SIGN BOARD ASKED THAT THE APPLICANT COME BACK EITHER COVER THE PANELS OR SHOW A SINGLE TENANT SIGN.

THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS IDENTIFIED AS ES 01 & 03 LOCATED AT THE DRIVE TO THE SOUTH ALSO LOCATED CLOSE TO THE DRIVE TO THE NORTH, THE SIGN LOCATED AT SHADY OAKS DRIVE, WAS REMOVED, SO THAT WAS REDUCED FROM THREE TO TWO.

THE SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED A DIFFERENT STYLE OF DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE AND ONE WITH A MASONRY WRAP. AND SO THERE'S THREE OPTIONS, WHICH I'LL GO OVER MORE DETAIL LATER IN THE SLIDE ON THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.

THE BUILDING DIRECTIONAL SIGNS ARE YOUR TYPICAL ATM SIGNS, CLEARANCE 10 FEET SIGNS THAT ARE UNDER THE DRIVE THRU CANOPY.

THE APPLICANT HAS MADE ALL THE CHANGES TO THOSE SIGNS PER THE SIGNBOARDS RECOMMENDATION.

THE ES9 IS A NEW UPPER STORY CLOCK.

THIS WAS SHOWN ON THE SP ONE ELEVATION'S WHEN YOU APPROVED THE SITE PLAN AND ZONING, THERE IS A UPPER STORY SIGN THAT'S PROPOSED FACING 114.

THE LETTERS ON THIS SIGN ARE TWO FEET, SIX INCHES IN HEIGHT.

AND THEN THE TENANT WOULD LIKE THE ABILITY TO RELOCATE THE EXISTING CLOCK AND PLACE THAT ON THE UPPER STORY AND THIS IS THE CLOCK THAT'S AT THEIR TOWN SQUARE LOCATION TODAY.

THIS IS THE SIGN BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION.

THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE SIGN HEIGHT FOR THE TWO DIRECTIONAL SIGNS. AND I'LL GO OVER THE PROPOSAL.

SO THIS IS THE MONUMENT SIGN ON 114.

THE DISCUSSION CENTERED AROUND THE SIX PANELS SHOWN ON THE SIGN, BECAUSE THIS WAS WHEN THE

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SITE PLAN CAME THROUGH WAS A SINGLE TENANT BUILDING.

THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THOSE WERE HOLDING PLACES FOR FUTURE BUILDINGS TO BE APPROVED TO THE SOUTH ON THE ADJACENT LOT.

THE SIGN BOARD INDICATED THAT BASED ON THOSE, THAT APPROVAL HASN'T BEEN GIVEN AND THIS IS A SINGLE TENANT BUILDING COME BACK WITH OPTIONS EITHER BLANKING OUT THE FUTURE TENANT PANEL. SO THIS IS AN OPTION B THAT'S BEING PRESENTED AND AN OPTION C THAT'S BEING PRESENTED. THE NEXT TWO SIGNS OF THE TWO DIRECTIONAL SIGNS LOCATED AT THE TWO DRIVEWAYS OFF THE FRONTAGE ROAD, ES3 AND ES1, THESE WERE THE SIGNS PRESENTED.

THEY WERE NONCOMPLIANT IN TERMS OF THE MASONRY SURROUND REQUIREMENTS AND THEY EXCEEDED THE HEIGHT OF THE ALLOWED SIGN SLIGHTLY.

THESE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS, THE OPTION B, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE THE MASONRY WRAP.

IT IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED BY ORDINANCE AND THE SIGN FACE IS A LITTLE LARGER. AND THEN THERE'S AN OPTION C THAT SHOWS A MASONRY WRAP AROUND THE SIGN, WHICH IS COMPLIANT WITH THAT MASONRY REQUIREMENT.

THE BUILDING IS SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED BY ORDINANCE AND ALSO THE SIGN FACE. THESE ARE THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.

THERE ARE FIVE SIGNS FOR THE SITE WHICH WE ARE CLASSIFYING AS DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.

THE DISCUSSION WITH THE P&Z IS TO REDUCE THEM TO SIX INCHES, THE ATM SIGN.

SO THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED TO COMPLY WITH THE SIGNBOARDS RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS IS THE PROPOSED UPPER STORY CLOCK SIGN.

THIS IS PART OF THE SP 1 RENDERING.

THIS CLOCK WAS SHOWN AND IT'S AN UPPER STORY ILLUMINATED CLOCK WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE ZONING, BUT IT'S INCLUDED IN THE SIGN PACKAGE.

THIS IS THE UPPER STORY PROPOSED UPPER STORY SIGN.

THE LETTER SIZE IS TWO FEET, SIX INCHES, ALMOST TWENTY SEVEN FEET IN LENGTH.

THIS IS A HALO DAYNIGHT ACRYLIC FACE SHOW OF BRONZE DURING THE DAY AND THEN THE HALO EFFECT AT NIGHT. AND THEN THE SIGN IN TERMS OF SIZES IS IN GENERAL CONFORMANCE WITH OTHER APPROVALS. AND WE DID PROVIDE A COMPARISON IN YOUR PACKET TO OTHER UPPER STORY SIGNS THAT YOU'VE APPROVED. THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED CLOCK.

THIS IS AT THE EXISTING BANK LOCATED IN THE TOWN SQUARE.

THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO LOCATE THAT CLOCK ON THAT ARTICULATE PORTION THAT SORT OF SITS BACK FROM THE 114 FRONTAGE, IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE RED BOX IS LOCATED.

THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS, DRAWINGS SHOWING WHAT THE SIGNAGE WILL LOOK LIKE ON THE BUILDING. AND THESE ARE SOME RECENT PHOTOS SHOWING THE BUILDING UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE SIGN BOARDS RECOMMENDATION, THEY ASKED THAT THE EXISTING CLOCK SIGNS BE IDENTIFIED IN TERMS OF LOCATION THAT WAS ADDRESSED WITH REGARDS TO DIRECTIONAL SIGNS. THEY APPROVED SIGNS ONE AND THREE THAT DENIED TWO.

THE APPLICANT MODIFIED THE REQUEST TO ADDRESS THAT RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE THREE AND 1/2 FOOT HEIGHT, AND REQUIRE THE THREE FOOT HEIGHT, DENYING THE REQUEST FOR THE SIX FOOT SIGN FACE REQUIRING A FOUR FOOT.

THEY REMOVED THE OPTION TWO SIGNS THEY DID PROVIDE THE MASONRY WRAP AND A NICER LOOKING SIGN THAN WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED.

BUT THOSE SIGNS ARE JUST SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW.

THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO BRING FORWARD A MASONRY ALTERNATIVE AND PLATE SIGNS FOR THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS. SORT OF LIKE THE WRAP. THEY LIMITED THE LETTERS ON THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS ON THE DRIVE THROUGH TO SIX INCHES TO NINE EIGHT INCH LETTERS.

THE APPLICANT DID ADDRESS THAT AND HAS REVISED THOSE TO SIX INCHES OR LESS.

AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO THE MONUMENT SIGN NOTING THE SIGN BOARD, AT LEAST ONE MEMBER WAS SKEPTIC ABOUT THE REQUIREMENT OF THE MONUMENT SIGN, BUT ASKED THAT THE APPLICANT COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS, EITHER COVERING THE PANELS OR REDUCING THE PANELS.

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AND THE APPLICANT DID PRESENT TWO OPTIONS, WHICH WOULD COVER THE PANELS ARE THE SINGLE TENANT MONUMENT SIGN AS PRESENTED.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WHY ARE WE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT MULTIPLE TENANTS IT'S A SINGLE TENANT.

LISTEN, THIS WAS WORLD WAR THREE TO GET THIS BUILDING BUILT.

AND I DON'T WANT ANY MORE PROBLEMS. I DON'T WANT ANY MORE PROBLEMS. IT'S A SIGN FOR A BUILDING THAT HAS ONE OCCUPANT AND THAT'S IT.

AND THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO CONSIDER.

AND THAT'S OPTION 3 DIRECTOR BAKER.

OPTION C. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH YOU.

I SAW THAT.

THIS IS WHAT WAS WANTED.

THIS IS WHAT THE FIGHT WAS ABOUT.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT.

NO, NO.

AND EXPLAIN TO ME HOW MANY CLOCKS ARE ON THIS BUILDING.

THERE'LL BE TWO CLOCKS.

NO. WE DON'T NEED TWO CLOCKS ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

AND DIRECTOR BAKER, DO WE HAVE AN IMAGE OF WHAT WE APPROVED ORIGINALLY? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT CLOCK TOWER DIDN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE WHAT WE'RE NOW CONSIDERING. IS THAT THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT.

WELL, IT DIDN'T HAVE A CLOCK ON IT.

I DON'T THINK. I DON'T HAVE NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION RIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE IT IN OUR THAT AT ALL.

WELL, MAYBE IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE CLOCK IS ON THERE NOW AND IT'S ALL LIT UP.

I DON'T KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS MORE OF A TOWER CONCEPT.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I JUST DON'T REMEMBER.

BUT THAT JUST DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE WHAT I REMEMBER.

I REMEMBER THE FRONT OF IT, BUT IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE TO YOUR POINT.

RIGHT. I REMEMBER THE ROOF LOOKING LIKE THAT.

I DIDN'T REMEMBER THE FRONT LOOKING LIKE THAT.

IT SEEMED LIKE TO ME THE HIGH POINT WAS ACTUALLY THE CLOCK.

THE CLOCK. YEAH, WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT, WHATEVER THAT IS.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE CLOCK, THOUGH.

OH, WELL IT WAS A BAD EXPERIENCE.

OK, SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE SIGN PACKAGE THEN.

I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH WHAT THE SIGN BOARD DID.

SO THE SIGN BOARD RECOMMENDED JUST THAT.

THEY SAY, COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS, SO THIS OPTION B.

NO, NO, NO.

I MEAN, IT WAS SUCH A HUGE FIGHT, I DON'T EVEN OK, I'M VERY FRUSTRATED WITH US.

THIS IS FINE. WE WERE TOLD IT WAS A SINGLE OWNER OCCUPIER, ONE PERSON IN THAT BUILDING.

WE WERE TOLD THEY WERE GOING TO FLY IN VIP'S AND HAVE MEETINGS AND LET OTHER PEOPLE USE THEIR MEETING SPACE. NO ONE EVER SAID ANYTHING TO ME ABOUT OTHER LAND AND OTHER TENANTS AND NO. SO THIS IS FINE UNLESS ANYONE ON COUNCIL DISAGREES.

NO, NO, I AGREE.

TOTALLY AGREE.

AND THEN WHAT ARE THE OTHER SIGNS WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.

YES. SO THESE ARE THE TWO NEW DIRECTION SIGNS.

RIGHT. THIS ONE ON THE RIGHT THAT LOOKS YEAH. IT'S OPTION C THAT'S YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THINGS WE NEED TO PICK FROM.

RIGHT. YES. THE MONUMENT SIGN AND THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, EVERYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO GO ONE CLOCK, NOT TWO.

YEAH, I THINK THEY NEED THE BIG CLOCK ON THEIR TOWER IS OBVIOUSLY THE LOOK AND THAT'S WHAT TIES IT FROM THE OLD PROPERTY.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THEY WANT TO FIND A PLACE TO USE THE OLD SIGN.

SO YEAH. PUT IT IN THE LOBBY MAYBE.

I JUST DON'T THINK. I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE TWO CLOCKS ON THE FRONT OF A BUILDING.

GOT IT. AND THEN THE ATM WE AGREE YEAH, I THINK THAT'S VERY NICE TO.

IT'S A PRETTY YEAH. ARE YOU TRYING TO GIVE ME A MIGRAINE OR SOMETHING? OK.

DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED. OK.

CAN WE GO AHEAD AND DO A MOTION THEN? WE GOOD. YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 9 C CASE NO SV20-0014 SIGNED VARIANCE FOR FIRST NATIONAL BANK, LOCATED AT 605 WEST STATE HIGHWAY 114 IN SOUTHLAKE TEXAS, SUBJECT TO OUR STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 13TH 2020.

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NOTING WE'RE GRANTING THE VARIANCE REQUESTS, WE'RE APPROVING THE MONUMENT SIGN A WITH OPTION C, THE SINGLE PANEL APPROVING DIRECTIONAL SIGNS ES01 AND ES02 WITH OPTION C, WHICH IS THE FOUR FOOT EIGHT INCH SIGN WITH THE MASONRY WRAP ALSO APPROVING BUILDING DIRECTIONAL SIGNS ES04 THROUGH ES08 AS PRESENTED APPROVING THE UPPER STORY SIGN, ESTEN AS PRESENTED.

APPROVING THE CLOCK SIGN, BUT WE'RE ONLY APPROVING ONE CLOCK, NOT TWO CLOCKS.

OK, GREAT. IS THERE A SECOND.

SECOND. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

OK, AND THAT ITEM PASSES SIX ZERO AND IS THAT IT? YEP. OK. MEETING ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.